WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:13.039 Hello there, and welcome back to be disconnected here with 2 00:00:13.160 --> 00:00:16.519 Anthony from Petroglyph Media, one of our youngest up and 3 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:21.960 coming boutique Blu Ray Companies, and Anthony so excited to 4 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:23.719 be able to share this inspiring story. 5 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:25.719 So thanks for coming on, Thank you for having me. 6 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:28.800 Ryan. I don't even know where to start. I mean, 7 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:30.879 one thing that we probably should say at the very 8 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:34.399 beginning is you've already talked a lot about the process 9 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:37.159 behind this, and so there's a link of the description below. 10 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:39.280 Everybody needs to go check out the episode of the 11 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:43.479 trash Backs podcast that you did. Fantastic conversation. I'm gonna 12 00:00:43.479 --> 00:00:45.000 try to not double up in a lot of the 13 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.600 same questions and cover some other stuff, so please go 14 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:50.880 listen to that as well. You've got a lot of 15 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.920 really great points that you bring up there. But genuinely 16 00:00:54.039 --> 00:00:56.920 excited to talk to you about this one thing that 17 00:00:56.960 --> 00:00:58.880 you didn't go in too much on. There is a 18 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.439 lot about yourself. We talked about the process and what 19 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:04.439 went into the first release, which we're gonna be talking 20 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:07.079 about just a minute. But uh, how how did you 21 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:09.280 get here? What's the history of Anthony? 22 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:12.799 Uh So, the history of Anthony is uh, you know, 23 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:16.239 I'm from New York City, I'm from Queens. Grew up 24 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:21.000 as a monster loving kid, you know, watched Monster Vision 25 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:25.040 as a child when it was like marathons, got Zilla marathons, 26 00:01:25.439 --> 00:01:28.680 so really into monsters as a kid, and then kind 27 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:32.359 of transitioned into horror later on into my teen years. 28 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:36.799 I feel really, you know, grateful that I grew up 29 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:39.560 in that time when when physical media was was taking off, 30 00:01:39.560 --> 00:01:42.799 when Anchor Bay was you know, starting to release all 31 00:01:42.799 --> 00:01:46.640 these you know, European horror films, and really jumped on 32 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:48.680 that wave and got really into that at the time, 33 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:54.280 and I've just been collecting ever since, uh, you know, 34 00:01:54.319 --> 00:01:58.519 since I was a teenager pretty much. So yeah, film 35 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:01.640 I mean, growing up as a kid, was super into 36 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.239 special effects. When I was young, I really thought I 37 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.439 was going to be you know, it was right before 38 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:08.919 Jurassic Park came out, so there was like still this 39 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:12.800 idea that stop motion might still be going on, and 40 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:16.080 then having to watch all those documentaries around the release 41 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:17.800 where Phil Tip is like, oh, this is the end 42 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:21.639 of it for us, and then you know, as I 43 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:26.240 got older, kind of getting into you know, the other 44 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:29.560 aspects of filmmaking. My mother was the one that introduced 45 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:32.199 me to Alfred Hitchcock. So that's when I, you know, 46 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:37.000 obsessed with what a director does. When I was young, 47 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.280 I was watching an episode of The X Files. I 48 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:41.919 think it was the one might have been the first 49 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:44.879 season where they go, uh, there's like there's like these 50 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:48.800 bugs in like the Pacific Northwest. I was watching that episode. 51 00:02:49.199 --> 00:02:52.080 I was with my father and it said directed by 52 00:02:52.159 --> 00:02:55.199 Joe Napolitano. So I was like, oh, Dad, somebody with 53 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.240 our last name. And he goes, oh, yeah, that's my cousin. 54 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.479 And this was never really verified and I still have 55 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:05.960 no no garification of this if this is. 56 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:10.360 True, but Joe Napplezano was from Brooklyn and apparently he 57 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:11.560 was my father's cousin. 58 00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.240 They moved out to California. 59 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:15.080 When he was young, and he you know, when I 60 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:18.199 was when IMDb came out, I looked him up and 61 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.560 totally did not look at the rest of his filmography, 62 00:03:21.639 --> 00:03:23.479 just saw that he worked on Kingdom of the Spiders 63 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:27.360 and I was like, amazing, that's great. Totally blew past 64 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.479 the fact that he was the first assistant director on 65 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:31.960 Scarface Blowout, but no. 66 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:33.800 Kingdom of the Spider was what mattered to me at 67 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:34.159 the time. 68 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.240 Having that idea planted in my head that somebody in 69 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:44.400 my family tree works in Hollywood made me feel like, no, 70 00:03:44.479 --> 00:03:47.120 maybe that'll happen for me one day. And I honestly 71 00:03:47.159 --> 00:03:49.560 think that all of us that collect these movies and 72 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.960 are really into the special features, deep down inside we 73 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:53.719 all want to make our own films, and I think 74 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:58.120 that's why we gravitate towards this stuff. The special features 75 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:00.479 are not for the average people that were buying them 76 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.400 from Walmart and Best Buy in the first place. They 77 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:06.000 were always meant for people like us want to be filmmakers. 78 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:11.199 So yeah, that's that's Uh, that's kind of me summed up. 79 00:04:12.240 --> 00:04:14.960 Well, as a surprise, here's cousin Joe. Let me bring 80 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:19.319 him in. I'm just kidding. That's incredible. I mean you 81 00:04:19.839 --> 00:04:22.279 mentioned collecting. Everybody can see what's behind you that are 82 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:24.399 that's watching the video. I mean even got the super 83 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:26.959 rare Al Adams and set. What What what are you 84 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.160 into nowadays? Who are you buying from? What kind of 85 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:30.720 companies do you like supporting? Uh? 86 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:37.000 Definitely, you know Vinegar Syndrome for sure, Arrow, all the 87 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:39.120 major ones, I mean all the major boutique labels. 88 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:41.040 Uh, you know, I have two. 89 00:04:40.920 --> 00:04:45.959 Sons, so as a parent it gets difficult with tuition 90 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:48.680 to kind of make those big purchases. 91 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:51.480 So the cheap right. 92 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:55.879 Yeah. Well, at the. 93 00:04:55.879 --> 00:05:00.399 Same time, I'm in So I'm in bell Rose, Queen Rose, 94 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:00.920 Long Island. 95 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:02.639 I grew up on the Queen's side. 96 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:05.519 I never got a chance to live in Brooklyn where 97 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:07.879 things are really happening and cool. I am in the 98 00:05:07.879 --> 00:05:10.160 same I'm literally like three blocks away from the house 99 00:05:10.199 --> 00:05:15.199 I grew up in. But yeah, all all the major 100 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:19.920 boutique labels. I pretty much support anything that catches my eye. 101 00:05:21.439 --> 00:05:24.399 The one thing that escaped me recently that I really 102 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.959 want to purchase is that that Eureka said about the 103 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:30.399 German crime movies. The crime I think that I want 104 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.839 to get my hands on. And yeah, just you know, nothing, 105 00:05:34.920 --> 00:05:39.319 nothing in particular stands out outside of that recently, but yeah, 106 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.439 just whenever anything catches my eye, I'm on it. 107 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:44.519 Are you Are you staying up to date with modern 108 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:46.279 films too, or do you mostly live in the the 109 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:50.560 class immediately the face change, Yeah. 110 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:55.839 It's my uh my, and my film education is lacking 111 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:57.800 outside of these these genre films. 112 00:05:57.879 --> 00:05:59.560 Unfortunately, like if somebody were. 113 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.360 To kind at me with like like, I don't even 114 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.040 know most of the films in the Criterion, the ones 115 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:05.759 that you're supposed to know if you have a really 116 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.720 well rounded film education. I mean, it's basically the stuff 117 00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:12.079 that you see behind me is really what keeps me going. 118 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:14.560 I mean, I get it. I'm a lot of the 119 00:06:14.600 --> 00:06:17.040 same way. I've still never don't tell anybody this isn't public, 120 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:18.959 but I've never seen a Bergman movie still and I 121 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:21.000 want to just haven't gone around to it. 122 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:22.879 That was the name that was coming up in my head. 123 00:06:24.959 --> 00:06:27.040 And whor's of all, for the longest time, I had 124 00:06:27.040 --> 00:06:29.480 never seen The Godfather, and everyone would say, well, you're 125 00:06:29.519 --> 00:06:31.879 Italian and that's a great piece of American cinema and 126 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:32.759 you've never seen that. 127 00:06:32.959 --> 00:06:35.120 What's wrong with you? I mean, I have seen it now, 128 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.360 but for a long time that was Did. 129 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.319 It live up to the hype? That's the big question. 130 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:42.959 Yeah, yeah, it lived up to the hype. The hype. 131 00:06:42.959 --> 00:06:45.279 I could see why people consider it. 132 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:48.319 It's all right, yeah, you know, well, we're talking about 133 00:06:48.680 --> 00:06:51.319 names that come up, things like the Criterion stuff. A 134 00:06:51.439 --> 00:06:53.600 name that most people are not going to raise when 135 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:58.920 just discussing film is Hydropenea And this is such a 136 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:01.279 cool double feature to come out with as your first release. 137 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:04.759 You got funerals in the estro, You've got Triangulo de Ororo. 138 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:07.560 This is the slip cover, double sided, two different titles. 139 00:07:08.800 --> 00:07:11.519 For those that have not heard the trash Mechs podcast? 140 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:16.399 Who is Hydra Wow, that's not the name. Who is Hydroa? 141 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:23.360 So is Colombia's like genre Attur. He is when you 142 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:26.800 think of genre cinema in Colombia, it's him. He's a 143 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:31.160 one man industry basically started out in the seventies. He 144 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:36.120 has a pretty lengthy filmography, pretty much sticking with horror 145 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:41.879 or action adventure. And you know, he comes from a 146 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.759 country where there really isn't a very robust film industry. 147 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.759 It's not like Mexico or Argentina where there's like these 148 00:07:49.800 --> 00:07:52.959 big international films that played across all of Latin America. 149 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:56.879 So for you know, in America we used to like 150 00:07:56.879 --> 00:07:59.279 people like George Romero and Toby Hooper that. 151 00:07:59.319 --> 00:08:02.360 You know a lot of people that went out and 152 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:03.079 did it on their own. 153 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:06.000 There's there's uh, there's that history. In Colombia, there is 154 00:08:06.720 --> 00:08:09.839 not a lot of that, and right it really took 155 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:12.600 a lot for for him to break out on his own, 156 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:17.199 and it's really commendable. And he's definitely you know, he 157 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:21.079 is known there because he inspires you know, new generations 158 00:08:21.079 --> 00:08:25.480 of film lovers and filmmakers, uh there. So within Columbia 159 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:29.040 he's pretty well known in the film circles. Film students 160 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:33.039 know about him, revere him. But outside of that, you know, 161 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:36.759 not known really in America. You know, I think some 162 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:39.039 of his films have played in festivals, probably in Europe 163 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.240 and Spain, but really. 164 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.519 No play here at all in the US. 165 00:08:43.679 --> 00:08:47.279 Although I did state that, you know, the these were 166 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:50.600 the first ever American releases, but tri Angelo Lero apparently 167 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:53.320 did get a US VHS release back in the eighties, 168 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:57.559 which I was not aware of, but no subtitles, uh 169 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:02.799 though unfortunately because those negatives were lost, our print probably 170 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:05.440 looks like that, exactly the same as the VHS. But 171 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:11.159 this show is restored. So yeah, he's you know, when 172 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:15.039 you I think he should be not maybe as well 173 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:19.240 known as Sey Coffin Joe or Narcisio, even as Menta 174 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:21.799 in terms of South American horror, but he's up there, 175 00:09:21.799 --> 00:09:23.840 I would say, if you're thinking of like three names 176 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:27.240 from South America in terms of horror genre and higher opened. 177 00:09:27.320 --> 00:09:31.440 You should be up on that list because he's done 178 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.279 a lot well. 179 00:09:33.320 --> 00:09:36.759 And one thing that's getting more and more important nowadays, 180 00:09:36.840 --> 00:09:38.840 especially with something like Letterbox, a lot of people are 181 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:42.519 paying attention to, uh, you know, crossing off list or 182 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.519 the big thing is with something like this, crossing off 183 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:47.559 countries of films that they've been able to watch from. 184 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:49.919 And I don't think I mean, i'ven't logged everything I've 185 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.759 ever watched, but before this, I don't think I'd even 186 00:09:52.799 --> 00:09:55.399 had a Colombian film on my list, which just really 187 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:58.840 goes to show lack of distribution, lack of attention, lack 188 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:02.679 of access to many of these films. And this is 189 00:10:02.759 --> 00:10:06.120 just such a cool entry point for somebody that is 190 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.519 already into physical media because it's such a physical media, 191 00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.919 like already coded cult type of film. It's such a 192 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:14.159 great double feature for that. 193 00:10:14.600 --> 00:10:19.960 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean, you know, unfortunately, so it's 194 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.960 it's gonna be the genre films that travel the most 195 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:28.039 from from from foreign countries. They there's a there's a 196 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:32.879 line in the documentary not quite Hollywood. I forget who 197 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:34.600 says it, but you know, a good punch up needs 198 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:37.720 no translation, like fights sell anywhere in the world, and 199 00:10:37.759 --> 00:10:40.759 I think gore genre films sell anywhere in the world 200 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.440 no matter where they come from. So they're the easiest 201 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.799 access points to kind of getting people from the outside 202 00:10:46.840 --> 00:10:49.200 to look in and see what your country has to offer. 203 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:52.879 So it's a it's a good cinema is a great 204 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:55.960 soft power to have to to let people know about 205 00:10:57.080 --> 00:10:59.840 your country, your culture and things like that. And for 206 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.440 anyone who doesn't know anything about Columbia or hasn't seen 207 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:06.000 a Colombian film, this is a good entry way. One 208 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:07.519 of the things that I say on the on the 209 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:09.759 back cover of the disc is that you know, one 210 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.399 of the people who was really inspired by Hydro Benja 211 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.279 is Sierro Guierra, who is the first Colombian director to 212 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.600 be nominated for an OSCAR for Best Foreign Film for 213 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.600 Embrace of the Serpent. So you know that lineage right 214 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:25.840 there from Hydro Benice to this guy, it's he inspired 215 00:11:25.840 --> 00:11:26.480 a lot of people. 216 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:30.960 One thing that I don't know it means more and 217 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:33.279 more to me is I've watched more of these movies. 218 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:37.000 Roger Ebert was quoted once as saying movies are empathy 219 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:41.559 machines and for me, which is hilarious because I currently 220 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:44.279 my day job, I work for immigration and I've never 221 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.360 been fortunate enough to be able to travel outside of 222 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:51.519 the country and so being able to see like traditions 223 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:54.960 and part of people's culture through something like this really 224 00:11:55.240 --> 00:12:00.240 is for a privileged white cyst male, like the direct 225 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:04.679 access to this form of empathy with Colombian specifically if 226 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:06.840 they are in their home country. At least, you know, 227 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:08.919 I can meet Columbians here just the same to speak 228 00:12:08.960 --> 00:12:11.080 to them, but it's not quite the same. And being 229 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:15.360 able to literally see a funeral procession or you know, 230 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:18.559 how their their filmmaking history came to be. It's such 231 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:20.720 a unique way to envelop yourself in that. 232 00:12:21.440 --> 00:12:21.639 Yeah. 233 00:12:21.759 --> 00:12:24.639 No, I mean, film is like it's it's it's your 234 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:29.639 first passport, you know, going to the video store, as 235 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:32.080 you know, as a young teenager being able to rent 236 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:33.279 films from around the world. 237 00:12:33.360 --> 00:12:34.000 You have access. 238 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:36.200 That's your that's your travel before you can you know, 239 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:39.679 freely leave the country. You're you're visiting the world through 240 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:42.240 the lens of other filmmakers and how they viewed their 241 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:44.960 country and how they viewed certain topics and things going 242 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:49.240 on there. So yeah, it definitely gives you insight into 243 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:52.000 into other cultures. 244 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:54.720 The physical release itself. We got to get into this. 245 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:59.600 Obviously you're excited about these films, you are excited with 246 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:01.799 the film, or you're inspired by the story, you want 247 00:13:01.840 --> 00:13:03.960 to get it out. How do you go from that 248 00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:06.600 just saying, well, shit, I got to do this myself. 249 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:12.080 So big inspiration for me, Bill Olson from quote, Oh wow, nice. 250 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:13.159 And I'll tell you why. 251 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:17.000 Why Because he let so much of his persona be 252 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:18.559 on the Internet that you kind of got a real 253 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:21.200 feel for the guy. And you can kind of walk 254 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:24.840 away and say, this process might not be as mysterious 255 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.879 as I'm imagining in it to be late. You know, 256 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:30.840 this sounds like a regular guy who doesn't necessarily have 257 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:35.159 to have like some business degree or film education. 258 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:38.159 Like he just probably went out and just did it 259 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:39.200 and just gumption. 260 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:42.200 And maybe I can do the same because I've collected enough, 261 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.480 I've listened, I've read enough, you know, the Blu ray 262 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:48.320 boards and whatnot. Maybe I have enough knowledge that I 263 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.440 can give this a shot. And that was kind of 264 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:53.000 like the impetus. I just felt like I could do it, 265 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:56.960 so let me see what happens. And yeah, I just 266 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.200 made that initial outreach to this website in Columbia that 267 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.840 was host was streaming his films because I couldn't see 268 00:14:02.840 --> 00:14:05.039 them and I was really dying to see them. And 269 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:06.919 one of my friends has joked that, like this was 270 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:09.120 like the most expensive way to ever just like get 271 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:10.399 a movie subtitle. 272 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:11.960 So you could just watch it. Like that's what it was, 273 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.000 This is passion project. 274 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:15.200 I could just finally see it because I didn't see 275 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.360 the movie until it was like restored, Like I no, 276 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:23.039 I did not watch it beforehand, like I licensed it blind, 277 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:27.879 just going off of yeah, significant it was historically and 278 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.200 just from the few clips I had seen from it, 279 00:14:30.279 --> 00:14:31.840 just I just kind of knew off the bat that 280 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:33.759 this was going to be something I would enjoy. So 281 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:35.559 it didn't feel like too much of a risk, Like 282 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:37.320 I knew I was gonna love it no matter why. 283 00:14:39.799 --> 00:14:43.320 But yeah, it was just a leap of faith, I. 284 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:47.720 Guess inspired by Bill Olson. And then the actual physical product, 285 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:51.679 obviously there's a lot of uniqueness in this. You've got 286 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:54.919 the double sided slip cover, you've got the really great 287 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:57.879 double sided original art here. Is there anybody you were 288 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:02.080 trying to emulate with your actual physical product? 289 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.279 Just I mean, obviously with the slip cover, trying to 290 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:05.840 be like vinegar syndrome. 291 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:07.279 Of course with the artwork. 292 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.559 So I kind of like just pulled out all my 293 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.759 all my favorite Blu rays that and looked through the 294 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:17.519 artists and one of them was the Suspiria, the four 295 00:15:17.639 --> 00:15:19.639 k Uh and it's the same artist. 296 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:21.879 I reached out to him because I found out that 297 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:25.200 he was from Columbia. He had done he had done Suspiria, 298 00:15:25.240 --> 00:15:28.279 he had done Demons, and I was like this, I like, 299 00:15:28.320 --> 00:15:31.279 this guy's are artwork, he's from Colombia. It just feels 300 00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.279 like it has to be him. And he was. He 301 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:36.200 was very, you know, very eager to do it. 302 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:38.519 He knew of hydrophenigia and he was like, wow, he'd 303 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:39.320 be honored to do it. 304 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:41.279 So I was glad that that worked out. 305 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:44.559 And he was a huge help because I, you know, 306 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:46.759 I don't know how these things get formatted. He he 307 00:15:46.759 --> 00:15:51.120 helped with the layout of the uh, the paper that 308 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:54.240 goes into the sleeve. I didn't know how to do 309 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:56.639 any of that. He he offered to help me on that, 310 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:59.720 and you know, when the next release comes about, we're 311 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:02.279 gonna be working together on that next release because I 312 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:07.960 he was just such a huge help getting this release to. 313 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:10.039 Where it is to looking as professional as it does. 314 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:12.960 Honestly. I mean the art was the first thing I 315 00:16:13.000 --> 00:16:15.320 saw obviously when you go to the website, but he 316 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:20.000 captures the faces in this so perfectly. It is crazy 317 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:23.120 how much the likeness is exactly what it looks like 318 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:24.799 on both sides of the slip cover. I mean both 319 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:27.639 of the films. It's immaculate what he did. 320 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:29.799 Yeah, no, it's it was incredible. 321 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:30.159 I was. 322 00:16:30.240 --> 00:16:33.200 I was overjoyed when I saw the results and we 323 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:35.000 worked on it a few days. Like I was, I 324 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.000 was giving him like so for tri Angelo Lero, like 325 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:40.039 the points of reference, I'm like, just look at all 326 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:43.720 those Italian ripoffs of Indiana Jones, like the posters for those, Like, 327 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:45.840 that's our point of reference when we're trying to create 328 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:47.600 this thing and come up with how we. 329 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:51.200 Wanted it everybody positioned. So that was that was a 330 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.480 really fun process. But yeah, really happy with the results. 331 00:16:56.080 --> 00:17:00.600 On the the Trashbacks podcast episode, you mentioned a lot 332 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.200 of things that you know, you just talked about that 333 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:06.160 it was a risk, but during this process, you're losing 334 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:09.279 your job, You're unemployed for parts of it you're trying 335 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:13.119 to figure out how to handle, you know, translating over 336 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:17.079 the phone while signing agreements. What was a you know, 337 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:20.279 like the biggest thing in this that you never saw 338 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:23.200 coming that just shook you in the process. 339 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:29.000 The price for the restoration, because I had I had 340 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.359 a certain budget in mind, and I didn't really you know, 341 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.359 I think I had seen somebody else quote how much 342 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:37.119 it costs to produce a Blu ray and it was 343 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.200 somebody saying, oh, Kino said this at one time, that 344 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:40.680 this is how much it costs. I was like, well, 345 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:42.440 I just happened to have that now because my mother 346 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.960 had sold her house and you know, me, my brother 347 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:47.720 and my sisters, we all got a little chunk of that. 348 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:50.079 And I asked my wife, I said, would you be 349 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.480 gracious enough that I kind of pursue my dream with 350 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.680 this this bit of change, and she said yes. And 351 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:00.559 you know, it obviously ended up costing more than that, which. 352 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:02.160 Is why it took so long, because I had to 353 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.319 wait until I had the next round of funds to 354 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.960 keep going. But yeah, when I saw the price for 355 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:12.240 the restoration, I was like, oh my god. I was like, 356 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:14.839 I think the next release I'm definitely gonna look for 357 00:18:14.880 --> 00:18:17.920 a film that has already got an HD transfer already made, 358 00:18:17.920 --> 00:18:19.920 probably because I don't know if I'll be able to 359 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:24.240 do this right away again. That was yeah, that was 360 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:24.920 the biggest thing. 361 00:18:25.319 --> 00:18:25.559 Uh. 362 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:28.599 And there were one other thing that happened was and 363 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:30.240 I don't want to make it sound like the. 364 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.799 Company did that did the restoration, did the bed job. 365 00:18:32.799 --> 00:18:36.440 It's Metropolis Posts who did a razorhead, Gray Gardens, Pink Flamingo. 366 00:18:36.720 --> 00:18:37.400 They're amazing. 367 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:41.720 But when they scanned the film, apparently somebody's eyelash fell 368 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:45.640 into it and they discovered that once we had already 369 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:47.200 sent it back to Columbia, so then I had to 370 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:51.079 ask for the Archives to release it again and send 371 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:51.519 it back. 372 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:54.640 To the US so they could rescan it. And that 373 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:55.519 was I was like, I. 374 00:18:55.519 --> 00:18:56.960 Was freaking out when that happened. I was like, oh 375 00:18:56.960 --> 00:18:59.160 my god, they're gonna they're gonna hate me for this. 376 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:02.200 And because I was just so nervous that something would 377 00:19:02.240 --> 00:19:05.160 happen because it was the last copy of this film available, 378 00:19:05.519 --> 00:19:08.359 like there's no other cerials for it. I'm like, if 379 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:12.319 I'm the one that loses it, I'll feel horrible. But 380 00:19:12.440 --> 00:19:15.079 luckily that wasn't the case. Metropolis Post took care of it. 381 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:19.480 They were amazing, But that was one thing that popped 382 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:19.759 up that. 383 00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:23.519 Would like really scared me, Like, oh really. 384 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:28.720 That's a lot to ship it back and forth twice, 385 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:33.880 and I mean, gosh, that's terrifying in so many different ways. 386 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:36.920 I understand if you want me to cut it, but 387 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.559 I am going to ask for anybody that's inspired by 388 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:42.240 your story, can you share how much the restoration cost 389 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:43.680 or ballpark at. 390 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:51.000 Least I'm gonna say ballpark the costs of a brand 391 00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:58.640 new twenty twenty five, all right, if. 392 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:00.200 I want that, the company would want me to Yeah, 393 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:04.640 there right, I'll say this. I chose them because I 394 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:06.200 wanted to go with somebody in New York so I 395 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:08.480 could come and keep an eye on the prospect that 396 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:11.240 did reach out to act for. Their prices were around 397 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.319 the same, I think, but I wanted it to be 398 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:15.759 in New York so that way I could come in 399 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:20.240 and you know, yeah, going so and I was really happy. 400 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:20.920 With the with the work. 401 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:23.680