Speaker 1: Hello there, and welcome back to be disconnected here with
Speaker 1: Anthony from Petroglyph Media, one of our youngest up and
Speaker 1: coming boutique Blu Ray Companies, and Anthony so excited to
Speaker 1: be able to share this inspiring story.
Speaker 2: So thanks for coming on, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Ryan. I don't even know where to start. I mean,
Speaker 1: one thing that we probably should say at the very
Speaker 1: beginning is you've already talked a lot about the process
Speaker 1: behind this, and so there's a link of the description below.
Speaker 1: Everybody needs to go check out the episode of the
Speaker 1: trash Backs podcast that you did. Fantastic conversation. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to not double up in a lot of the
Speaker 1: same questions and cover some other stuff, so please go
Speaker 1: listen to that as well. You've got a lot of
Speaker 1: really great points that you bring up there. But genuinely
Speaker 1: excited to talk to you about this one thing that
Speaker 1: you didn't go in too much on. There is a
Speaker 1: lot about yourself. We talked about the process and what
Speaker 1: went into the first release, which we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: about just a minute. But uh, how how did you
Speaker 1: get here? What's the history of Anthony?
Speaker 3: Uh So, the history of Anthony is uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm from New York City, I'm from Queens. Grew up
Speaker 3: as a monster loving kid, you know, watched Monster Vision
Speaker 3: as a child when it was like marathons, got Zilla marathons,
Speaker 3: so really into monsters as a kid, and then kind
Speaker 3: of transitioned into horror later on into my teen years.
Speaker 3: I feel really, you know, grateful that I grew up
Speaker 3: in that time when when physical media was was taking off,
Speaker 3: when Anchor Bay was you know, starting to release all
Speaker 3: these you know, European horror films, and really jumped on
Speaker 3: that wave and got really into that at the time,
Speaker 3: and I've just been collecting ever since, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: since I was a teenager pretty much. So yeah, film
Speaker 3: I mean, growing up as a kid, was super into
Speaker 3: special effects. When I was young, I really thought I
Speaker 3: was going to be you know, it was right before
Speaker 3: Jurassic Park came out, so there was like still this
Speaker 3: idea that stop motion might still be going on, and
Speaker 3: then having to watch all those documentaries around the release
Speaker 3: where Phil Tip is like, oh, this is the end
Speaker 3: of it for us, and then you know, as I
Speaker 3: got older, kind of getting into you know, the other
Speaker 3: aspects of filmmaking. My mother was the one that introduced
Speaker 3: me to Alfred Hitchcock. So that's when I, you know,
Speaker 3: obsessed with what a director does. When I was young,
Speaker 3: I was watching an episode of The X Files. I
Speaker 3: think it was the one might have been the first
Speaker 3: season where they go, uh, there's like there's like these
Speaker 3: bugs in like the Pacific Northwest. I was watching that episode.
Speaker 3: I was with my father and it said directed by
Speaker 3: Joe Napolitano. So I was like, oh, Dad, somebody with
Speaker 3: our last name. And he goes, oh, yeah, that's my cousin.
Speaker 2: And this was never really verified and I still have
Speaker 2: no no garification of this if this is.
Speaker 3: True, but Joe Napplezano was from Brooklyn and apparently he
Speaker 3: was my father's cousin.
Speaker 2: They moved out to California.
Speaker 3: When he was young, and he you know, when I
Speaker 3: was when IMDb came out, I looked him up and
Speaker 3: totally did not look at the rest of his filmography,
Speaker 3: just saw that he worked on Kingdom of the Spiders
Speaker 3: and I was like, amazing, that's great. Totally blew past
Speaker 3: the fact that he was the first assistant director on
Speaker 3: Scarface Blowout, but no.
Speaker 2: Kingdom of the Spider was what mattered to me at
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: Having that idea planted in my head that somebody in
Speaker 3: my family tree works in Hollywood made me feel like, no,
Speaker 3: maybe that'll happen for me one day. And I honestly
Speaker 3: think that all of us that collect these movies and
Speaker 3: are really into the special features, deep down inside we
Speaker 3: all want to make our own films, and I think
Speaker 3: that's why we gravitate towards this stuff. The special features
Speaker 3: are not for the average people that were buying them
Speaker 3: from Walmart and Best Buy in the first place. They
Speaker 3: were always meant for people like us want to be filmmakers.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's Uh, that's kind of me summed up.
Speaker 1: Well, as a surprise, here's cousin Joe. Let me bring
Speaker 1: him in. I'm just kidding. That's incredible. I mean you
Speaker 1: mentioned collecting. Everybody can see what's behind you that are
Speaker 1: that's watching the video. I mean even got the super
Speaker 1: rare Al Adams and set. What What what are you
Speaker 1: into nowadays? Who are you buying from? What kind of
Speaker 1: companies do you like supporting? Uh?
Speaker 3: Definitely, you know Vinegar Syndrome for sure, Arrow, all the
Speaker 3: major ones, I mean all the major boutique labels.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I have two.
Speaker 3: Sons, so as a parent it gets difficult with tuition
Speaker 3: to kind of make those big purchases.
Speaker 1: So the cheap right.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, at the.
Speaker 3: Same time, I'm in So I'm in bell Rose, Queen Rose,
Speaker 3: Long Island.
Speaker 2: I grew up on the Queen's side.
Speaker 3: I never got a chance to live in Brooklyn where
Speaker 3: things are really happening and cool. I am in the
Speaker 3: same I'm literally like three blocks away from the house
Speaker 3: I grew up in. But yeah, all all the major
Speaker 3: boutique labels. I pretty much support anything that catches my eye.
Speaker 3: The one thing that escaped me recently that I really
Speaker 3: want to purchase is that that Eureka said about the
Speaker 3: German crime movies. The crime I think that I want
Speaker 3: to get my hands on. And yeah, just you know, nothing,
Speaker 3: nothing in particular stands out outside of that recently, but yeah,
Speaker 3: just whenever anything catches my eye, I'm on it.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you staying up to date with modern
Speaker 1: films too, or do you mostly live in the the
Speaker 1: class immediately the face change, Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's my uh my, and my film education is lacking
Speaker 3: outside of these these genre films.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, like if somebody were.
Speaker 3: To kind at me with like like, I don't even
Speaker 3: know most of the films in the Criterion, the ones
Speaker 3: that you're supposed to know if you have a really
Speaker 3: well rounded film education. I mean, it's basically the stuff
Speaker 3: that you see behind me is really what keeps me going.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. I'm a lot of the
Speaker 1: same way. I've still never don't tell anybody this isn't public,
Speaker 1: but I've never seen a Bergman movie still and I
Speaker 1: want to just haven't gone around to it.
Speaker 2: That was the name that was coming up in my head.
Speaker 3: And whor's of all, for the longest time, I had
Speaker 3: never seen The Godfather, and everyone would say, well, you're
Speaker 3: Italian and that's a great piece of American cinema and
Speaker 3: you've never seen that.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? I mean, I have seen it now,
Speaker 2: but for a long time that was Did.
Speaker 1: It live up to the hype? That's the big question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it lived up to the hype. The hype.
Speaker 2: I could see why people consider it.
Speaker 1: It's all right, yeah, you know, well, we're talking about
Speaker 1: names that come up, things like the Criterion stuff. A
Speaker 1: name that most people are not going to raise when
Speaker 1: just discussing film is Hydropenea And this is such a
Speaker 1: cool double feature to come out with as your first release.
Speaker 1: You got funerals in the estro, You've got Triangulo de Ororo.
Speaker 1: This is the slip cover, double sided, two different titles.
Speaker 1: For those that have not heard the trash Mechs podcast?
Speaker 1: Who is Hydra Wow, that's not the name. Who is Hydroa?
Speaker 3: So is Colombia's like genre Attur. He is when you
Speaker 3: think of genre cinema in Colombia, it's him. He's a
Speaker 3: one man industry basically started out in the seventies. He
Speaker 3: has a pretty lengthy filmography, pretty much sticking with horror
Speaker 3: or action adventure. And you know, he comes from a
Speaker 3: country where there really isn't a very robust film industry.
Speaker 3: It's not like Mexico or Argentina where there's like these
Speaker 3: big international films that played across all of Latin America.
Speaker 3: So for you know, in America we used to like
Speaker 3: people like George Romero and Toby Hooper that.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people that went out and
Speaker 2: did it on their own.
Speaker 3: There's there's uh, there's that history. In Colombia, there is
Speaker 3: not a lot of that, and right it really took
Speaker 3: a lot for for him to break out on his own,
Speaker 3: and it's really commendable. And he's definitely you know, he
Speaker 3: is known there because he inspires you know, new generations
Speaker 3: of film lovers and filmmakers, uh there. So within Columbia
Speaker 3: he's pretty well known in the film circles. Film students
Speaker 3: know about him, revere him. But outside of that, you know,
Speaker 3: not known really in America. You know, I think some
Speaker 3: of his films have played in festivals, probably in Europe
Speaker 3: and Spain, but really.
Speaker 2: No play here at all in the US.
Speaker 3: Although I did state that, you know, the these were
Speaker 3: the first ever American releases, but tri Angelo Lero apparently
Speaker 3: did get a US VHS release back in the eighties,
Speaker 3: which I was not aware of, but no subtitles, uh
Speaker 3: though unfortunately because those negatives were lost, our print probably
Speaker 3: looks like that, exactly the same as the VHS. But
Speaker 3: this show is restored. So yeah, he's you know, when
Speaker 3: you I think he should be not maybe as well
Speaker 3: known as Sey Coffin Joe or Narcisio, even as Menta
Speaker 3: in terms of South American horror, but he's up there,
Speaker 3: I would say, if you're thinking of like three names
Speaker 3: from South America in terms of horror genre and higher opened.
Speaker 3: You should be up on that list because he's done
Speaker 3: a lot well.
Speaker 1: And one thing that's getting more and more important nowadays,
Speaker 1: especially with something like Letterbox, a lot of people are
Speaker 1: paying attention to, uh, you know, crossing off list or
Speaker 1: the big thing is with something like this, crossing off
Speaker 1: countries of films that they've been able to watch from.
Speaker 1: And I don't think I mean, i'ven't logged everything I've
Speaker 1: ever watched, but before this, I don't think I'd even
Speaker 1: had a Colombian film on my list, which just really
Speaker 1: goes to show lack of distribution, lack of attention, lack
Speaker 1: of access to many of these films. And this is
Speaker 1: just such a cool entry point for somebody that is
Speaker 1: already into physical media because it's such a physical media,
Speaker 1: like already coded cult type of film. It's such a
Speaker 1: great double feature for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean, you know, unfortunately, so it's
Speaker 3: it's gonna be the genre films that travel the most
Speaker 3: from from from foreign countries. They there's a there's a
Speaker 3: line in the documentary not quite Hollywood. I forget who
Speaker 3: says it, but you know, a good punch up needs
Speaker 3: no translation, like fights sell anywhere in the world, and
Speaker 3: I think gore genre films sell anywhere in the world
Speaker 3: no matter where they come from. So they're the easiest
Speaker 3: access points to kind of getting people from the outside
Speaker 3: to look in and see what your country has to offer.
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a good cinema is a great
Speaker 3: soft power to have to to let people know about
Speaker 3: your country, your culture and things like that. And for
Speaker 3: anyone who doesn't know anything about Columbia or hasn't seen
Speaker 3: a Colombian film, this is a good entry way. One
Speaker 3: of the things that I say on the on the
Speaker 3: back cover of the disc is that you know, one
Speaker 3: of the people who was really inspired by Hydro Benja
Speaker 3: is Sierro Guierra, who is the first Colombian director to
Speaker 3: be nominated for an OSCAR for Best Foreign Film for
Speaker 3: Embrace of the Serpent. So you know that lineage right
Speaker 3: there from Hydro Benice to this guy, it's he inspired
Speaker 3: a lot of people.
Speaker 1: One thing that I don't know it means more and
Speaker 1: more to me is I've watched more of these movies.
Speaker 1: Roger Ebert was quoted once as saying movies are empathy
Speaker 1: machines and for me, which is hilarious because I currently
Speaker 1: my day job, I work for immigration and I've never
Speaker 1: been fortunate enough to be able to travel outside of
Speaker 1: the country and so being able to see like traditions
Speaker 1: and part of people's culture through something like this really
Speaker 1: is for a privileged white cyst male, like the direct
Speaker 1: access to this form of empathy with Colombian specifically if
Speaker 1: they are in their home country. At least, you know,
Speaker 1: I can meet Columbians here just the same to speak
Speaker 1: to them, but it's not quite the same. And being
Speaker 1: able to literally see a funeral procession or you know,
Speaker 1: how their their filmmaking history came to be. It's such
Speaker 1: a unique way to envelop yourself in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, film is like it's it's it's your
Speaker 3: first passport, you know, going to the video store, as
Speaker 3: you know, as a young teenager being able to rent
Speaker 3: films from around the world.
Speaker 2: You have access.
Speaker 3: That's your that's your travel before you can you know,
Speaker 3: freely leave the country. You're you're visiting the world through
Speaker 3: the lens of other filmmakers and how they viewed their
Speaker 3: country and how they viewed certain topics and things going
Speaker 3: on there. So yeah, it definitely gives you insight into
Speaker 3: into other cultures.
Speaker 1: The physical release itself. We got to get into this.
Speaker 1: Obviously you're excited about these films, you are excited with
Speaker 1: the film, or you're inspired by the story, you want
Speaker 1: to get it out. How do you go from that
Speaker 1: just saying, well, shit, I got to do this myself.
Speaker 2: So big inspiration for me, Bill Olson from quote, Oh wow, nice.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3: Why Because he let so much of his persona be
Speaker 3: on the Internet that you kind of got a real
Speaker 3: feel for the guy. And you can kind of walk
Speaker 3: away and say, this process might not be as mysterious
Speaker 3: as I'm imagining in it to be late. You know,
Speaker 3: this sounds like a regular guy who doesn't necessarily have
Speaker 3: to have like some business degree or film education.
Speaker 2: Like he just probably went out and just did it
Speaker 2: and just gumption.
Speaker 3: And maybe I can do the same because I've collected enough,
Speaker 3: I've listened, I've read enough, you know, the Blu ray
Speaker 3: boards and whatnot. Maybe I have enough knowledge that I
Speaker 3: can give this a shot. And that was kind of
Speaker 3: like the impetus. I just felt like I could do it,
Speaker 3: so let me see what happens. And yeah, I just
Speaker 3: made that initial outreach to this website in Columbia that
Speaker 3: was host was streaming his films because I couldn't see
Speaker 3: them and I was really dying to see them. And
Speaker 3: one of my friends has joked that, like this was
Speaker 3: like the most expensive way to ever just like get
Speaker 3: a movie subtitle.
Speaker 2: So you could just watch it. Like that's what it was,
Speaker 2: This is passion project.
Speaker 3: I could just finally see it because I didn't see
Speaker 3: the movie until it was like restored, Like I no,
Speaker 3: I did not watch it beforehand, like I licensed it blind,
Speaker 3: just going off of yeah, significant it was historically and
Speaker 3: just from the few clips I had seen from it,
Speaker 3: just I just kind of knew off the bat that
Speaker 3: this was going to be something I would enjoy. So
Speaker 3: it didn't feel like too much of a risk, Like
Speaker 3: I knew I was gonna love it no matter why.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was just a leap of faith, I.
Speaker 1: Guess inspired by Bill Olson. And then the actual physical product,
Speaker 1: obviously there's a lot of uniqueness in this. You've got
Speaker 1: the double sided slip cover, you've got the really great
Speaker 1: double sided original art here. Is there anybody you were
Speaker 1: trying to emulate with your actual physical product?
Speaker 3: Just I mean, obviously with the slip cover, trying to
Speaker 3: be like vinegar syndrome.
Speaker 2: Of course with the artwork.
Speaker 3: So I kind of like just pulled out all my
Speaker 3: all my favorite Blu rays that and looked through the
Speaker 3: artists and one of them was the Suspiria, the four
Speaker 3: k Uh and it's the same artist.
Speaker 2: I reached out to him because I found out that
Speaker 2: he was from Columbia. He had done he had done Suspiria,
Speaker 2: he had done Demons, and I was like this, I like,
Speaker 2: this guy's are artwork, he's from Colombia. It just feels
Speaker 2: like it has to be him. And he was. He
Speaker 2: was very, you know, very eager to do it.
Speaker 3: He knew of hydrophenigia and he was like, wow, he'd
Speaker 3: be honored to do it.
Speaker 2: So I was glad that that worked out.
Speaker 3: And he was a huge help because I, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know how these things get formatted. He he
Speaker 3: helped with the layout of the uh, the paper that
Speaker 3: goes into the sleeve. I didn't know how to do
Speaker 3: any of that. He he offered to help me on that,
Speaker 3: and you know, when the next release comes about, we're
Speaker 3: gonna be working together on that next release because I
Speaker 3: he was just such a huge help getting this release to.
Speaker 2: Where it is to looking as professional as it does.
Speaker 1: Honestly. I mean the art was the first thing I
Speaker 1: saw obviously when you go to the website, but he
Speaker 1: captures the faces in this so perfectly. It is crazy
Speaker 1: how much the likeness is exactly what it looks like
Speaker 1: on both sides of the slip cover. I mean both
Speaker 1: of the films. It's immaculate what he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it was incredible.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: I was overjoyed when I saw the results and we
Speaker 3: worked on it a few days. Like I was, I
Speaker 3: was giving him like so for tri Angelo Lero, like
Speaker 3: the points of reference, I'm like, just look at all
Speaker 3: those Italian ripoffs of Indiana Jones, like the posters for those, Like,
Speaker 3: that's our point of reference when we're trying to create
Speaker 3: this thing and come up with how we.
Speaker 2: Wanted it everybody positioned. So that was that was a
Speaker 2: really fun process. But yeah, really happy with the results.
Speaker 1: On the the Trashbacks podcast episode, you mentioned a lot
Speaker 1: of things that you know, you just talked about that
Speaker 1: it was a risk, but during this process, you're losing
Speaker 1: your job, You're unemployed for parts of it you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how to handle, you know, translating over
Speaker 1: the phone while signing agreements. What was a you know,
Speaker 1: like the biggest thing in this that you never saw
Speaker 1: coming that just shook you in the process.
Speaker 3: The price for the restoration, because I had I had
Speaker 3: a certain budget in mind, and I didn't really you know,
Speaker 3: I think I had seen somebody else quote how much
Speaker 3: it costs to produce a Blu ray and it was
Speaker 3: somebody saying, oh, Kino said this at one time, that
Speaker 3: this is how much it costs. I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I just happened to have that now because my mother
Speaker 3: had sold her house and you know, me, my brother
Speaker 3: and my sisters, we all got a little chunk of that.
Speaker 3: And I asked my wife, I said, would you be
Speaker 3: gracious enough that I kind of pursue my dream with
Speaker 3: this this bit of change, and she said yes. And
Speaker 3: you know, it obviously ended up costing more than that, which.
Speaker 2: Is why it took so long, because I had to
Speaker 2: wait until I had the next round of funds to
Speaker 2: keep going. But yeah, when I saw the price for
Speaker 2: the restoration, I was like, oh my god. I was like,
Speaker 2: I think the next release I'm definitely gonna look for
Speaker 2: a film that has already got an HD transfer already made,
Speaker 2: probably because I don't know if I'll be able to
Speaker 2: do this right away again. That was yeah, that was
Speaker 2: the biggest thing.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And there were one other thing that happened was and
Speaker 3: I don't want to make it sound like the.
Speaker 2: Company did that did the restoration, did the bed job.
Speaker 2: It's Metropolis Posts who did a razorhead, Gray Gardens, Pink Flamingo.
Speaker 2: They're amazing.
Speaker 3: But when they scanned the film, apparently somebody's eyelash fell
Speaker 3: into it and they discovered that once we had already
Speaker 3: sent it back to Columbia, so then I had to
Speaker 3: ask for the Archives to release it again and send
Speaker 3: it back.
Speaker 2: To the US so they could rescan it. And that
Speaker 2: was I was like, I.
Speaker 3: Was freaking out when that happened. I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, they're gonna they're gonna hate me for this.
Speaker 3: And because I was just so nervous that something would
Speaker 3: happen because it was the last copy of this film available,
Speaker 3: like there's no other cerials for it. I'm like, if
Speaker 3: I'm the one that loses it, I'll feel horrible. But
Speaker 3: luckily that wasn't the case. Metropolis Post took care of it.
Speaker 3: They were amazing, But that was one thing that popped
Speaker 3: up that.
Speaker 2: Would like really scared me, Like, oh really.
Speaker 1: That's a lot to ship it back and forth twice,
Speaker 1: and I mean, gosh, that's terrifying in so many different ways.
Speaker 1: I understand if you want me to cut it, but
Speaker 1: I am going to ask for anybody that's inspired by
Speaker 1: your story, can you share how much the restoration cost
Speaker 1: or ballpark at.
Speaker 5: Least I'm gonna say ballpark the costs of a brand
Speaker 5: new twenty twenty five, all right, if.
Speaker 3: I want that, the company would want me to Yeah,
Speaker 3: there right, I'll say this. I chose them because I
Speaker 3: wanted to go with somebody in New York so I
Speaker 3: could come and keep an eye on the prospect that
Speaker 3: did reach out to act for. Their prices were around
Speaker 3: the same, I think, but I wanted it to be
Speaker 3: in New York so that way I could come in
Speaker 3: and you know, yeah, going so and I was really happy.
Speaker 2: With the with the work.
Speaker 3: It took a while, like I said in the other interview,
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was because that's how long
Speaker 3: it really took to do it, or because a twenty.
Speaker 2: Four just like took preference over my stuff. I don't know, right,
Speaker 2: but yeah, so the cost of a brand new car
Speaker 2: was just the uh, just the restoration itself, and that's
Speaker 2: my initial budget was, right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that leads to something that makes me very
Speaker 1: worried for more to come out of your brilliant mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, you go on your website right now and
Speaker 1: this pretty incredible, rare package of two movies is twenty dollars, Anthony,
Speaker 1: How could you afford to sell this for only twenty dollars? Right?
Speaker 3: Basically, there's a thousand copies sitting in my bedroom and
Speaker 3: my wife needs to see them.
Speaker 2: Gone touche.
Speaker 1: That checks out, Seriously.
Speaker 3: I have priced it at thirty initially when when it
Speaker 3: first came out and nobody saw it, and I just
Speaker 3: thought to myself, this might be a hard ask because yeah,
Speaker 3: you can charge you know, today's.
Speaker 2: Lucio fuol Cheese Birthday, Happy birthday, Lucio ful Chee.
Speaker 3: You could release a four K of Luccio fool Chee
Speaker 3: right now and charge whatever you want.
Speaker 2: It's built in name recognition. People pay that price. Nobody
Speaker 2: knows who Hydropnedia is. How could I dare ask somebody
Speaker 2: even for a double feature, to pay thirty. I didn't
Speaker 2: feel like I was really going to get anywhere with it,
Speaker 2: and it was at that price for about a month.
Speaker 2: I probably didn't do enough promotion at that time either.
Speaker 3: The part about me losing my job was right when
Speaker 3: the promotion started kicking in, because I suddenly had a
Speaker 3: bunch of time.
Speaker 2: But I just felt like twenty, like you can't say
Speaker 2: no to twenty.
Speaker 3: And my main thing was I want this guy to
Speaker 3: get exposure more so than anything, you know, I'm not.
Speaker 2: I did not do this to get rich. Obviously, I
Speaker 2: would like to.
Speaker 3: I would like it to eventually become profitable so I
Speaker 3: can continue to do it doing this and make this
Speaker 3: my thing. But that was money was not my main focus.
Speaker 3: My main focus was kind of preserving this film for
Speaker 3: my sons, getting this director exposure in the United States.
Speaker 3: He has a lot more films, and like I said
Speaker 3: in the other podcast, I don't want to just be
Speaker 3: the Hydropniga guy. I want to branch out and do
Speaker 3: other things. So if anybody else, any other labels are listening,
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of other stuff to offer and
Speaker 3: to be great. If somebody put together a box set
Speaker 3: of his films because I want him.
Speaker 2: To be more well known.
Speaker 3: There's very few figures like him who are just you know,
Speaker 3: from outside of the US that have a genre filmography
Speaker 3: and they're just doing it themselves. You don't see that
Speaker 3: very often.
Speaker 1: Especially in Latin America. I mean it's been mentioned time
Speaker 1: and time again, but we are sorely missing on entire
Speaker 1: countries filmographies, let alone like some of these very like
Speaker 1: high regarded filmmakers that have entire careers just waiting to
Speaker 1: be resuscitated and granted, you know, like discussing these funeral
Speaker 1: is from a theatrical print and then Triangulo is from
Speaker 1: a one inch tape master. But there are so many
Speaker 1: of these countries where the elements are not perfect. We
Speaker 1: still deserve to do something with their films and archive
Speaker 1: in a way where they can be seen for generations.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Okay, so people getting into this and inspired by you
Speaker 1: need to have a shit ton of money. We get that.
Speaker 1: The other thing for a lot of people's curation. You
Speaker 1: don't want to just do Penia films. If this is
Speaker 1: something that somebody watches this and they say, you know what,
Speaker 1: I want to fund your next five releases. What are
Speaker 1: what are dream things that you want to do? Is
Speaker 1: there like a theme for the label that you want
Speaker 1: to keep to or.
Speaker 3: So a lot of people have just assumed that it
Speaker 3: will be Latin American genre films, which I'm I'm okay
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 2: I do want to dip my my my.
Speaker 3: Feet in that again, but I also had it in
Speaker 3: mind that I would kind of in my mind, I
Speaker 3: wanted to go all over the world. Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 3: just so many countries where there's just so many films
Speaker 3: in my head.
Speaker 2: That have not gotten releases that I that I want
Speaker 2: to hit up, and I just I have I'm afraid
Speaker 2: to mention them. It might be an unreasonable fear, Like
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: There was a show you where I forgot I think
Speaker 3: it was Celeste had the copy of it. We're showing it,
Speaker 3: and then I saw that Deaf Crocodile was like, we're
Speaker 3: looking into South American films as we speak.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I guess something that
Speaker 2: I have my mind on. So like, what is it?
Speaker 2: There is a film I'll say it because I don't
Speaker 2: think it's the thing.
Speaker 3: I'm going to probably get my hands up but there's
Speaker 3: a film from Poland called like Curs of Snake Valley
Speaker 3: that I believe has an HD restoration that was on
Speaker 3: it played in New York a few years back. It's
Speaker 3: like Indiana Jones type film with UFOs and a monster
Speaker 3: in it, and it's pretty enjoyable, and that was one
Speaker 3: of the films that I had considered. I also like
Speaker 3: thought of kind of expanding into just like world cinem
Speaker 3: in general, you know, not genre films. Like there's other
Speaker 3: films from South America that I want to release, specifically Argentina.
Speaker 3: There's a film called Dark Side of the Heart with
Speaker 3: Dario Grandinetti, who was in the Amadovar's talked to her.
Speaker 3: So that is a film that I love that I
Speaker 3: would love to see get, you know, a restoration. So yeah,
Speaker 3: not just harror. So that's why I named the Petroglyph
Speaker 3: because it's kind of like unnameable. It's not like a
Speaker 3: horror specific name, so it kind of allows like a
Speaker 3: latitude to just kind of release anything. So all I
Speaker 3: can say is whatever I release, it'll be very personal
Speaker 3: to me. So it's you're getting it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: line that's very personally curated. So it's not I don't
Speaker 3: foresee this company growing at such an enormous rate where
Speaker 3: there's gonna be lots of people and I'm going to
Speaker 3: have an acquisitions department and people are gonna be making decision.
Speaker 2: It's probably gonna be me, just me for a very
Speaker 2: long time, if anything. And so whatever you're getting is
Speaker 2: something that I personally like and I feel that you
Speaker 2: need to see.
Speaker 1: So for anybody watching, he's going to get an MGM
Speaker 1: deal and we'll be seeing seven of those starting next month.
Speaker 3: There's like so many studio films that I'm just like
Speaker 3: waiting for that I haven't seen, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: What is the hold up? I don't want to ramble it,
Speaker 2: but yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, my big thing is I want to see you succeed.
Speaker 1: So I'm really suggesting to anybody that's watching this to
Speaker 1: go in. And I don't normally do this because I
Speaker 1: really hate saying just buy something to support, but this
Speaker 1: is the sort of thing that we need to speak
Speaker 1: with a twenty dollars bill to be able to say
Speaker 1: this is something that we deserve to have restored, we
Speaker 1: deserve to have archived, and not just we as the community,
Speaker 1: but the filmmaker deserves to be honored like this, and
Speaker 1: to see more of this come from somebody like you
Speaker 1: is immense And I really hope that people will see
Speaker 1: this and respond by going to the website and purchasing.
Speaker 1: But for those that are somehow not convinced yet, why
Speaker 1: don't you try to elevate or pitch funeral first?
Speaker 3: So Funanazinestro involves a young girl whose father has just
Speaker 3: passed away. She has to stay at their the family
Speaker 3: hacienda with her stepmother while her uncle goes in clears
Speaker 3: up legal issues regarding his death and the transfer of
Speaker 3: his money and whatnot. And there's suspicious things going on
Speaker 3: at the hacienda regarding the stepmother.
Speaker 2: She may have been involved in the father's death.
Speaker 3: And this young girl is very afraid of being alone,
Speaker 3: very afraid of the supernatural, and without giving away too much,
Speaker 3: things escalate from there. Some people see things they're not
Speaker 3: supposed to see, and some murders take place, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a very it's a slow burn, but it's got
Speaker 3: a lot of atmosphere. Definitely, I think Armando from trash
Speaker 3: mach set at best. It's like it's a film that
Speaker 3: you have to watch for the lights off in the
Speaker 3: dark at night to get the full effect.
Speaker 1: It is one I rewatched last night to be able
Speaker 1: to talk about it again. And sure, it's not the
Speaker 1: greatest movie ever, but there's so much to enjoy about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, first off, the restoration for being from a
Speaker 1: theatrical print looks pretty damn great for how old it is.
Speaker 1: One thing I really wanted to point out that didn't
Speaker 1: get into a lot of detail in that episode is
Speaker 1: the sound in this movie is so good. Like there's
Speaker 1: not just atmospheric sounds either, there's like iconic sounds that
Speaker 1: you So I will probably never forget a couple of
Speaker 1: the things that you hear in this movie.
Speaker 2: It's great, that's awesome. That's great to hear.
Speaker 1: There's the stepmother. One scene, she goes to laugh and
Speaker 1: she does this really like throaty and it's so funny
Speaker 1: in the moment that she does it. It's great. So
Speaker 1: that's our first one, but our second one, which is
Speaker 1: a really great By the way, this is an incredible
Speaker 1: choice for double feature, but it pretty much could not
Speaker 1: be more different than Funeral. So tell us about what
Speaker 1: we're getting on the other side of this.
Speaker 3: So Ti Anglolero is a very pulpy adventure film, very
Speaker 3: much probably trying to ride the waves of Indiana.
Speaker 2: Jones.
Speaker 3: We have an island, a treasure map. There are radioactive plants,
Speaker 3: man eating plants. Basically this woman and I forget if
Speaker 3: it's Sara. I think it's her brother that goes treasure
Speaker 3: hunting on some island that they've heard about since they
Speaker 3: were a kid. He comes back, he's got all these
Speaker 3: burns on him, and these other people that are looking
Speaker 3: for this map, they get it. They kidnap her, they
Speaker 3: take her to the island, and it's up to her
Speaker 3: brother to come and save her and his nephew.
Speaker 2: From what dangers they encounter on Ghost Island.
Speaker 3: So really fast paced, much faster different totally, like you said,
Speaker 3: very different from Funanasinstro, much more fast paced. It's got
Speaker 3: a great bar bar room kung fu battle in the
Speaker 3: middle of it. But yeah, I chose that because I
Speaker 3: felt like they these were the two films from his
Speaker 3: filmography that would stand out the most. You have one
Speaker 3: that's the first Colombian horror film, and you have this
Speaker 3: action film, and I felt like these were the these
Speaker 3: had the elements that they could put together they could
Speaker 3: sell really well.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of that, one of the main things I
Speaker 1: wanted to hear near the end of this is the
Speaker 1: reception to this. So first of all, how how has
Speaker 1: it sold? Are you? Are you pretty happy with what
Speaker 1: you've gotten out there so far?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's a limited edition thousand copies and we're
Speaker 3: close to the halfway points and it's only been selling
Speaker 3: some March. So for a film that no, you know,
Speaker 3: nobody's really heard of beforehand, I feel that's that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: So I'm very happy with it. And if I can
Speaker 2: be gone with.
Speaker 3: All the copies by the end of the year, I'll
Speaker 3: be extremely happy, and my wife will be happy.
Speaker 1: I was about to say the wife loved that.
Speaker 2: They have more space to play in in the house,
Speaker 2: but yet, No, the reception has been great.
Speaker 3: I've been getting a lot of messages on Instagram. I
Speaker 3: was never like on social media at all because I
Speaker 3: really hate it, but I have.
Speaker 2: To for promotion and whatnot.
Speaker 3: And people write me messages, people who are from you know,
Speaker 3: Colombian lineage or background saying, you know, they had never
Speaker 3: heard of it and this is what they had always
Speaker 3: been looking for because they're genre fans.
Speaker 2: And they always wondered about this, So to hear that
Speaker 2: is is just amazing.
Speaker 3: That really really makes me happy that because that was
Speaker 3: what I kind of aim to do, because that's important.
Speaker 3: It's important to see people from your culture doing the
Speaker 3: things that you want to do, because it kind of
Speaker 3: gives you permission to do it as well.
Speaker 2: In a sense.
Speaker 1: What about the receptions of the films themselves? Have you
Speaker 1: been paying attention to, like letterbox reviews exploding and people
Speaker 1: finally starting to talk about Pania.
Speaker 2: Most of what I saw in letterbox was good.
Speaker 3: I think there was like one review that was kind
Speaker 3: of negative, and I was like, I shouldn't look at
Speaker 3: this anymore because it's going to hurt me as if
Speaker 3: I made the film myself, I shouldn't take it so personally.
Speaker 2: But no, everything has been pretty good.
Speaker 3: I've been I was very, you know, careful to not
Speaker 3: try to oversell the films, like this is not a
Speaker 3: gore fest. Somebody had written that it's like it might
Speaker 3: not be even classifiable as a horror, but you know what,
Speaker 3: everybody else online has spoken about it as a horror film.
Speaker 1: So I have no problem a horror film.
Speaker 2: As considering it horror.
Speaker 3: But Everything that I've read has been pretty pretty positive,
Speaker 3: so I'm happy that people have enjoyed it. The link
Speaker 3: on phone naucing Thatshra is a bit much. People comment
Speaker 3: about that, but that's understandable, totally understandable.
Speaker 1: The big thing though, is just seeing the access, Like
Speaker 1: I imagine this has to be super gratifying to see,
Speaker 1: you know, your film come out and then suddenly, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the letterbox reviews are going to shoot up because people
Speaker 1: couldn't see this before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was, and it occurred to me
Speaker 3: like maybe two or three weeks after I had started
Speaker 3: selling copies. I was like, I should check letterbox and
Speaker 3: see what's going on there because I had, you know, previously,
Speaker 3: there had only been like three reviews each for both films,
Speaker 3: so it really wasn't much out there. And then yet
Speaker 3: to see it slowly, you know, start to rise up
Speaker 3: in number was gratifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't remember how soon after you launched I
Speaker 1: even discovered that you were a thing. Yet, how did
Speaker 1: you first get the name out about Patrick Cliff?
Speaker 3: So basically just got on Instagram. I had a friend
Speaker 3: make a really kind of really nice trailer and I
Speaker 3: think I was telling the guys from trash macs. Like
Speaker 3: the algorithm worked because I had always, like I said,
Speaker 3: I've never been on social media, but I kind of
Speaker 3: always like cyberstalked Armando because he just puts such amazing
Speaker 3: stuff on.
Speaker 2: So I was like, as soon.
Speaker 3: As I got on Instagram, I'm going to follow this guy,
Speaker 3: and I guess through following him, it kind of went
Speaker 3: out to everybody that follows him, and I guess it
Speaker 3: just kind of worked that way.
Speaker 2: And as I started putting.
Speaker 3: Up ads, I started getting more and more you know,
Speaker 3: people into it. And then when you posted about it
Speaker 3: on Instagram, that shut up. Like it was crazy that
Speaker 3: that weekend. So I really appreciate that. Like I came
Speaker 3: home and I was like, oh, I got a sale,
Speaker 3: and I was like, wait, I got another one. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what the hell's going on the other like, this wasn't happening.
Speaker 3: It was like before that, it had been slow, like
Speaker 3: maybe one or two a day, but then won every
Speaker 3: like ten minutes, I'm like, something happened.
Speaker 2: I was checking.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, the Disconnected wrote about it, So
Speaker 3: thank you for that. That was a huge course.
Speaker 1: That's that's literally all I try to do is help small,
Speaker 1: small groups like this, and funny enough, I think you
Speaker 1: mentioned him in the Trash Mix podcast Mondo Micabre Jared
Speaker 1: Honor from Mondo Micabre, don't. I don't think I told
Speaker 1: you this yet. He's the one that let me know
Speaker 1: that the release existed. He found out through some way
Speaker 1: and he went, did you know about this? Because I'm
Speaker 1: sure you want to post about it? I went, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to post about this. This sounds
Speaker 1: great and post about it immediately, and then it has exploded.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about it. I've got my own discord.
Speaker 1: Many many people in the discord have purchased it, so
Speaker 1: we've all talked about the films in there, and it
Speaker 1: really seemed to just word of mouth, keep keep going thankfully.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Yeah, no, I'm really happy with the reception.
Speaker 1: That's great. So yeah, no plans for a second release
Speaker 1: or anything. We got to get this one out of
Speaker 1: out of the bedroom. But other than that, other than
Speaker 1: purchasing it, I'm assuming that sharing the information about this
Speaker 1: and word of mouth is the best way for people
Speaker 1: to support you right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's available directly through me through my website. Diabolic
Speaker 3: DVD has copies of it.
Speaker 2: There was some other company in the UK that has
Speaker 2: it now.
Speaker 1: To the Treasured Films. Probably I think that's the name
Speaker 1: of the film Treasures is the name of their online side.
Speaker 2: I think possibly it was his Strange Devices.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 2: But if you're in the UK, there's somebody, there's a
Speaker 2: there's somebody.
Speaker 1: There that I'll find it in the links of the description.
Speaker 1: Anything else that you want to hype up or promo
Speaker 1: or anything else that I can do to help.
Speaker 3: No, I just want to say to everyone who's already
Speaker 3: purchased a copy, thank you so much. You have no
Speaker 3: idea what it means to me. Anybody who's on the fence.
Speaker 3: Twenty dollars, you can't go wrong. And yeah, once once,
Speaker 3: I uh, once all these copies are gone. I don't
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's going to be like a standard,
Speaker 3: you know, edition of it just depends on how how
Speaker 3: how quickly I run out. But then I, you know,
Speaker 3: hopefully soon I will start working on what that next
Speaker 3: release is. And I do not plan, even though I
Speaker 3: know it will.
Speaker 2: Be just as difficult as this first release. I do
Speaker 2: not plan to disappear into the ether. You will hear
Speaker 2: from me again.
Speaker 1: Amazing and yet I mean you can tell on the
Speaker 1: spine it is petroglyph media number one, so that there
Speaker 1: has to be a number two. That's the rule.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Well, on that note, Anthony, thanks so much for your time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I as somebody that works in physical media,
Speaker 1: I dream of being able to start a label and
Speaker 1: hearing hearing that story of just yeah, nobody else is
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I got to go do it. I
Speaker 1: knew I had to talk to you. So this has
Speaker 1: been incredible and just appreciate your time.
Speaker 2: Thank you again for having me on.
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully we'll chat again soon. Everybody, go go purchase
Speaker 1: from the link of description below. We'll see you next time.
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