WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:12.919 On a that was the slowest on ever. Welcome to 2 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:17.839 episode four sixty of the CEO pre Show for sixty. Yeah, 3 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:20.320 that feels like a bigger number than like four fifty nine, 4 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.839 And I know that technically it is, but it's like, 5 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:24.839 feels substantially bigger than just one. 6 00:00:25.239 --> 00:00:29.199 It is definitely one larger and holy shit about it. 7 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:31.920 We are brought to you by the wonderful Patreon supporters 8 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:35.119 at Patreon dot com lash CECO podcast. 9 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:35.759 Whether they like it or not. 10 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:37.520 Yeah, and we got a new patron to shout out 11 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:39.719 this week that's exciting or like a returning one. We'll 12 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:42.640 talk about it on the show tomorrow. And one that's 13 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:46.320 going to be at CEO Experience Calgary. Planning officially kicked off. 14 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:49.479 Oh that's exciting. I think I was tagged in some 15 00:00:49.520 --> 00:00:51.399 stuff on discord, which I'm excited about. 16 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:54.679 Yes, I have a tentative list of attendees that have 17 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:59.479 already expressed interest. I have messaged the Dude Bros as well, 18 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:01.560 the CCO Dude brows in our group chat on my 19 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:05.760 phone and waiting to hear back from them, because they 20 00:01:05.760 --> 00:01:07.920 should be the ones that got in touch first and 21 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:10.920 said that they wanted to come but they not. Not 22 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:13.519 a single one of them has responded except for you. 23 00:01:13.599 --> 00:01:16.680 Really, Yeah, what a bunch of asshles, I know, right. 24 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:18.200 I guess that's why we always say f you to 25 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:18.760 them on the show. 26 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:20.879 That's right, That's why I don't say glowing things about 27 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:23.400 them and say there's sevens instead of seven point twos. 28 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:27.400 Very much so. He speaking of seven point two, I 29 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:28.840 know that you had a bunch of stuff that we 30 00:01:28.879 --> 00:01:30.959 talked about getting to on the pre show. We can 31 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:35.400 get to it, okay. Or I have a present from 32 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:38.120 my command fest Toronto weekend. 33 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:43.439 Is it a dark misprint visions Griffin Canyon? It isn't, 34 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:45.120 and I probably don't want it. 35 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:47.840 You know what, In hindsight, I should maybe hold on 36 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:52.280 to this present. I should, but you know what, I'm 37 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:56.799 a nice guy, and the present truthfully isn't actually from me. 38 00:01:57.840 --> 00:02:02.239 It's it's through me from and you may have heard 39 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:05.560 of him, a good friend of ours named Ghi Pizza. Oh. 40 00:02:05.640 --> 00:02:08.639 I love that guy. Yes, made all of our skulls 41 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:10.120 that you saw at the intro to this. He made 42 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:13.319 a Gary skull, he made a hardcorera and Brooksy skull 43 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:15.280 for the Damn Media Group. 44 00:02:15.520 --> 00:02:17.719 He made me a gift of a brash Tunter giving 45 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:18.280 the finger. 46 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:22.400 Oh, well, it's funny that you should mention that. It's 47 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:24.800 funny that you should mention that, because right here in 48 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:30.039 my sweaty pocket, I have a altered art brash Tunter 49 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:33.560 by one mister Ghi Pizza. Oh foil because he knows 50 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:38.199 he likes foils of a brash Tunter giving you the finger. 51 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:42.080 Oh, that's so rad. 52 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:43.840 So that's that's so cool. 53 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.080 And don't even know he altered cards while. 54 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:48.840 He's getting into it, and he showed me a few 55 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:51.080 of his altars. And this is the best part. He 56 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.759 gave you that. But even better than that, he picked 57 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:56.879 up a copy of my Altered Art e book and 58 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:58.560 he said, I'm going to give this a read, and 59 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:00.319 I'm going to up my game so he can make 60 00:03:00.439 --> 00:03:03.599 more alters like that. Look at he he did the foil, 61 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:06.520 so it still looks like it's foil underneath where he 62 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:09.000 had to redo the sky. Then he painted on a 63 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:10.039 new middle finger. 64 00:03:10.199 --> 00:03:13.479 It's hard to tell even that you can see it 65 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:15.639 when you know it's there. But I'm gonna show this 66 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.319 to Sam when I get home. She's gonna laugh super hard. Think, 67 00:03:19.400 --> 00:03:21.800 oh my god, this is that card you're always talking 68 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:25.639 about for some reason, and I'll say yeah, and then 69 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:27.800 I'll never tell her that it's an altar and she'll 70 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:29.240 just and she wont to think that that's how it 71 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:30.000 looks all the time. 72 00:03:30.039 --> 00:03:30.680 It's perfect. 73 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.479 Thank you very much, Kei Pizza and Ryan for not 74 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:37.319 hoarding that as I have hoarded the Darkness Print vision 75 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:38.120 s Griffin Canyon. 76 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.319 Yes, so I showed producer Gary that when I got 77 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:43.439 here today, and I think, and he can correct me 78 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:45.120 if I'm wrong, but I think that's the first time 79 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:49.520 he's ever seen a brash Hunter really, so oh second time? Okay, 80 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:53.080 Well that's still you popped his brash Hunter, Sherry. 81 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:55.080 Was it as exciting the second time, Gary? 82 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:57.840 Well, he because he got finger blasted this time. Yes, 83 00:03:57.879 --> 00:04:04.439 it's geez, brash Hunter. I love your finger. 84 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:09.639 We're going straight into the straight into a deck. 85 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:12.400 Straight into a deck. Yes, that's where that finger is going. 86 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.039 What else did you want to talk about? You saw Transformers. 87 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:16.759 I went to see the new Transformers movie and. 88 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:18.480 Was it good? I mean you said that you didn't 89 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.279 want to and that wasn't going to be good. Were 90 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:21.800 you right? No? I was. 91 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:26.199 I was absolutely wrong. When I see something that's good 92 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.680 that I'm shit talked. I have to say nice things 93 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:30.639 about it, Yeah, because. 94 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:32.959 It's not as bad as how bad you expected it. 95 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.240 That way, when I say something is bad, people will 96 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:37.319 believe me because they know that I'm willing to admit 97 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:40.600 when I'm incorrect. And if you're a Transformers fan as 98 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:42.959 I am, I was, I was like emotionally invested in 99 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.800 this movie. It's gonna ship all over the lore of trying. 100 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:48.000 I was one of being one of those like neck 101 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.560 beerd guys right banging the table, want to Spider Man. 102 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:53.199 And then I went and I watched it because it's 103 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.319 like I gotta see it, million you gotta see it. 104 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:58.560 You collect Transformers things, including memories of movies that you 105 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:00.000 may or may not like exactly. 106 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.040 And when I went to see it, like, I laughed 107 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.480 and it was crying, didn't cry. It was very well done. 108 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.240 My only two actual complaints about it are strictly cosmetic. 109 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.800 In then, a quintison in the movies doesn't look like 110 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:15.000 a quintusng. Here's the quintison should look like. I'm gonna 111 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.560 describe it to you with my words. Okay, picture a 112 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:18.199 ball sack. 113 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:19.199 I'm doing that. 114 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:20.160 That's upside down. 115 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:21.360 Okay, it's getting weird. 116 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.720 It's got tentacles dangling from it, and. 117 00:05:23.680 --> 00:05:26.920 Then how many, uh, like one big one that could 118 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:27.439 give you like. 119 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.680 A Roman helmet, like eight really skinny ones. Oh, and 120 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:33.879 then it's got five scary faces kind of around this 121 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:36.040 the sides of it. That's what a quintisan looks. 122 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:38.519 So okay, let me let me get this straight. It's 123 00:05:38.519 --> 00:05:45.319 a beholder with faces and ball sack sort of. 124 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:47.439 Yeah, okay, yeah, that's so, that's what. And then in 125 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.600 this movie they were just big bulky aliens with like 126 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:52.519 tentacles that had but they look kind of like little 127 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:55.680 Cathu guys, kids show Brando, big Miss, big Miss. 128 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:59.399 Okay, that's fine, that's fine because maybe it's somebody's interpretation, right. 129 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:01.720 And then right at the very end, don't give it away. 130 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:04.079 This isn't with the ending, okay, because you know what, 131 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.439 like at the end of every Transformers movie, they always 132 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:08.879 have Peter Collin, who is the voice of Optimist Prime, 133 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:12.160 my cartoon dad says some kind of epic speech about 134 00:06:12.160 --> 00:06:15.399 how awesome being a Transformer is. Yes, they did that 135 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.480 in this movie, but it was Thor instead of Optimus Prime, 136 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:19.839 and Thor. 137 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:23.680 Tried Thorpe, did that's Liam No, Chris Hemsworth, Yes, did 138 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:25.319 he play Optimist Prime? 139 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:30.439 He did okay, and he did his best Peter Cullen impression, 140 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:34.079 and you just don't do it, you know what I mean. 141 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:36.800 It just sounded stupid, like you could hear him doing it, 142 00:06:37.000 --> 00:06:38.519 and it's like, nah, man, just don't do that. You 143 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:39.839 did great for the whole movie. 144 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:42.800 Just do your own Optimist Prime version of your voice. 145 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:44.879 I have zero complaints about his performance for the whole 146 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:48.120 movie except for that one scene at the end, but 147 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:50.240 exactly exactly. That's if they're trying to give you the 148 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:53.199 fan service though, just like, pay Peter Cullen some money. 149 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.560 He's alive, he'll do it, you know what I mean. Like, 150 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.920 if you're gonna try and do that, just do it. 151 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:01.319 Don't half asset. My only two complaints. And if you're 152 00:07:01.319 --> 00:07:04.120 a Transformers fan or you have kids that just like 153 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:09.959 explode bright color, kind of funny CGI movies, highly recommend it. 154 00:07:10.279 --> 00:07:12.800 Lots of fun and it's like eighty nine minutes long. 155 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:14.879 So it's the perfect class of a movie. 156 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.199 Yeah, classic like old so Disney movies, like every single 157 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.879 movie that Disney did from like nineteen forty seven to 158 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:25.319 nineteen sixty two or whatever. It was ninety two minutes long, 159 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.600 every single one, because they like crack that code. This 160 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:30.240 is how much it should cost. This is how long 161 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:32.240 your kids will be entertained. This how many songs there's 162 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:32.720 gonna be. 163 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:33.959 This is how in the movie will be. 164 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:35.639 Yeah, Disney cracked that code pretty. 165 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.560 Good, so no Transformers one, highly recommend. 166 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:39.319 Okay, there you go. 167 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:40.920 You know what movie didn't crack the code on how 168 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.279 many songs there should be? Joker too. The less I 169 00:07:44.360 --> 00:07:46.839 say about that, the better. But that's a bad movie. 170 00:07:46.959 --> 00:07:48.720 You see two and a half hours long. 171 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:51.600 You see I thought it'd be good. Well, that's fine, 172 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:53.600 and well the first one was good. You had reasonable 173 00:07:53.600 --> 00:07:58.160 expectation that the second one done in a way similar 174 00:07:58.199 --> 00:07:59.720 to the first one. I'll say, because I know it's 175 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:03.079 it's different. Yeah, but same director, same actor, and Lady 176 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:05.519 Gaga already an Oscar winner. She's fantastic. 177 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:07.120 Wasn't very good movie? 178 00:08:07.120 --> 00:08:07.560 You didn't like it? 179 00:08:07.560 --> 00:08:08.000 I didn't like it? 180 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.279 Okay, well, and there you go, very slow. 181 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:12.920 Not my thing just wasn't for me. I don't and 182 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:14.839 I don't think that people who are fans of the 183 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.800 first one, who go in expecting a continuation, They're not 184 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:19.920 going to be happy. And I don't think that people 185 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:22.240 that go in knowing that it's a musical because it is, 186 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.360 I don't think they're going to be really happy either, 187 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.199 because it's kind of disjointed and a little weird. 188 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:32.120 Was it really Joaquin Phoenix singing? I think probably. 189 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:32.919 I'll bet it was. 190 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.480 Okay, I'll ask you one more question and we'll move 191 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.440 on to some magic talk for people that are actually 192 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:42.600 here for Commander and magic the gathering talk. Do you okay? 193 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:45.519 Would you describe Joker one as a movie with lots 194 00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:48.039 of tension in it, lots of tense moments. Would you 195 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:49.799 say it's a tense movie? I would say so, yeah, 196 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.080 Like like a lot of thriller and action movies are, 197 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.200 and gangster movies. Maybe we can include this in kind 198 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:59.759 of like a gangster light. Sure. Do you think Joker 199 00:08:59.799 --> 00:09:04.600 Too as a musical had or holds as much tension? No? No? 200 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:07.480 And is it because of the musicality of it or 201 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:09.080 is it just because it's not as intense? 202 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:12.440 It's because how they they incorporated the musicality into it 203 00:09:12.679 --> 00:09:14.399 just kind of took some of the tens, you. 204 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:15.519 Know, like it brightened it up. 205 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.200 Maybe, remember in all of them, in all the Marvel movies, 206 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:19.720 kind of near the end of the. 207 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:22.159 You're acting like you've seen all the frickin Marvel movies. 208 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:24.200 You'll you'll know this reference. And so all the people 209 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.320 out there, how every intense scene they ever did in 210 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:29.279 a Marvel movie they punctuated with a joke to kind 211 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.000 of flatten that emotion that they had elicited. 212 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:34.960 That is a technique that storytellers have been using since 213 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:37.399 the fifteen hundreds. You might have heard of William Shakespeare. 214 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:39.399 He invented that comic relief. It's called right. 215 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:41.440 He shouldn't have because if you overuse it. 216 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:44.159 Shakespeare didn't know what he's talking about. 217 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:47.919 If you overuse something like that, it steps. Your movie 218 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.639 kind of is flat now, And that's kind. 219 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:56.000 Of what balances that. It balances the tension with with lightness, airiness, 220 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:58.120 comedy too much, you know, too much. 221 00:09:58.279 --> 00:09:59.840 Yeah, they just they went a little bit too hard 222 00:09:59.840 --> 00:10:01.919 on and it just kind of didn't end up being 223 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.840 that good. So, man, if you want to see it, 224 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:05.679 by all means, but be aware it is a musical. 225 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:07.480 It is two and a half hours long, and it's. 226 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:10.039 Not very good. Bro I saw Rent in the theater. 227 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:11.000 I'm sorry. 228 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:14.039 Out of all movies that I should have seen, and 229 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.759 out of all the movies that I haven't seen, yeah, 230 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:20.480 Rent is one that I have And in the movie theater, Dang, 231 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:23.039 what the ass was I doing? I don't know? And 232 00:10:23.080 --> 00:10:25.039 it was there three other dudes. I didn't even go 233 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:29.480 on a date with a chick a lady. What the ass? 234 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:30.200 What were you thinking? 235 00:10:30.440 --> 00:10:32.840 And then and then this is gonna make it sound 236 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.639 really bad. We all shared a hotel room because we're 237 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:38.720 in Edmonton. And then I got strep throat. I don't 238 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:40.720 want to fill in all the blanks in between all 239 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:41.399 of those. 240 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:43.120 Things, nor do we want you to. 241 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.159 No, But like I was so sick on the drive home, 242 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:47.840 I had a fever for like two days. I got 243 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.919 a rash man possibly related to having a fever and 244 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:54.559 strep throat. Not for other reasons or in other places, 245 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:56.919 but I will say there was a jacuzzi tub because 246 00:10:56.919 --> 00:10:59.519 we were in the Roman room in the Galaxy Hotel. 247 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:01.120 Ever stay in one of the theme rooms. 248 00:11:01.200 --> 00:11:04.360 Yeah, we stayed in the hotel, the Hollywood big Wig Room. 249 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:07.080 We stayed in the hotel room in the HOTELANDO. That 250 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:08.240 was not a theme room. 251 00:11:08.840 --> 00:11:10.320 It was just like every other hotel. 252 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:12.759 It was so good. It was the perfect hotel experience. 253 00:11:13.159 --> 00:11:16.320 Have you ever stayed in the Dusk Morn room? 254 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:18.240 What? 255 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:19.039 No? 256 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:20.039 Probably not. 257 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:23.600 Have you seen any dusk Morn cards come into play 258 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:24.519 at the LGS? 259 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:25.120 I have? 260 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:26.799 I have not because I haven't been there. 261 00:11:27.360 --> 00:11:29.720 You can't drive, remember, Yeah, I do recall, I do 262 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:31.519 recall you. You were in Toronto, you might have seen 263 00:11:31.840 --> 00:11:33.279 you know what. I didn't play a lot of games, 264 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:34.039 I know, but I. 265 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.000 Do have a little bit of a Toronto recap. I 266 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:37.919 did want on Commander at Populum, but I have a 267 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.840 little bit of a Toronto recap and some stuff to 268 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.759 talk about on Commander Cookout. The deck we're doing is 269 00:11:45.840 --> 00:11:48.039 going to go a little bit fast, So I have 270 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.080 a couple other things that I would love to touch on, 271 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:52.600 and a little bit of Toronto is good. Yes, But 272 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:54.720 what did you see and how was it? What is 273 00:11:54.759 --> 00:11:56.320 what is dusk Morn done thus far? 274 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:01.759 So far? Not a huge amount. And we've two here's 275 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:03.600 something that both of us are going to kick ourselves 276 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:05.840 in the face about. Actually, I saw two pre cons 277 00:12:05.840 --> 00:12:09.279 of dust one play and we were completely right about them, 278 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:12.240 and that they weren't really good, okay, and they didn't 279 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:14.000 have the things that they needed to make them work. 280 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:15.279 Okay. 281 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:18.519 Did you know that the Amanatu one has an infinite 282 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:19.240 combo in it? 283 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:19.679 No? 284 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.639 Does one of them. One of the doors turns all 285 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:25.600 your permanence into enchantments. One of them has whenever an 286 00:12:25.679 --> 00:12:30.240 enchantment comes into play, you copy it. Oh, and it's 287 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:32.720 a creature, so it comes in, copies itself, copies itself, 288 00:12:32.720 --> 00:12:37.639 copies itself, copies itself, copies itself, copy infantinum up to 289 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:39.559 a number. And since it says may on it, then 290 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:41.879 you stop and then you pass the turn, and when 291 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:43.440 it gets back to you, you win the game. 292 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.159 Ah, does watsy know that? Or at the time that 293 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:46.759 they built it. 294 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:50.960 They better have, because I mean, we missed it, but 295 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.720 of course we missed it, We're idiots. But and it's 296 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:57.240 also it was also the only thing that that deck 297 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.720 can do to win, because holy crap, is it? 298 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.279 Yeah? You got you got to take Amanatu or Master 299 00:13:03.360 --> 00:13:04.799 of the Keys out and you got to build those 300 00:13:04.799 --> 00:13:06.559 decks because those decks I think would slap. 301 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:09.120 Yes, but the deck that they come in don't, at 302 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.240 least in my we played two games with it, both 303 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:15.039 of which were just abysmal. And we saw the Red 304 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.440 Black deck played as well. It held its own a 305 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:18.240 little bit better. 306 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:20.559 Deck in Toronto is going for like one hundred and 307 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:21.159 five bucks. 308 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:24.519 It had the same issue that we talked about on 309 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.399 the show, where it has all the stuff that it needs, 310 00:13:27.600 --> 00:13:31.200 but it works it's like working on the wrong axis. 311 00:13:31.480 --> 00:13:34.519 So it just was real clunky, and the clunkiness kind 312 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:36.000 of came through in a lot of the turns. 313 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:39.320 You know what I and this is fortunately this is 314 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:43.039 maybe just a meeting, but whenever I've boughten a pre 315 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:47.440 con and not kept it and modified it. But because 316 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:50.000 I've only really ever done that maybe once with my 317 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.759 Souron deck, which was already a good pre con. You 318 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:54.759 drop your Commander, you get like twenty five power on 319 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:57.600 the table. It's pretty good across three bodies. Yeah, right, 320 00:13:58.240 --> 00:14:02.639 and then you add things like like Laurian Revealed and 321 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:05.960 the One Ring and every other good card from Lord 322 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:08.039 of the Rings and Gris's colors, like the deck is fine. 323 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.240 Yeah right, But I think if I was if you 324 00:14:11.320 --> 00:14:13.440 said you have to pick a pre con and you 325 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:16.480 have to just modify one card at a time over 326 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:19.600 the course of like a year. Maybe you play like 327 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:25.559 thirty games and you in a year you change thirty cards. Okay, 328 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:27.600 I think that that would be fun because you can 329 00:14:27.679 --> 00:14:32.519 identify the clunkiness and the clunkers if you will, and 330 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:35.600 replace them and tweak them over time, and have the 331 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:39.200 satisfaction of knowing, oh, I finally get to take this 332 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.039 clunker out, or oh my god, I took this clunker 333 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:43.559 out and put this card and I finally get to 334 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.720 play it. I think with pre cons that are a 335 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:50.720 little bit suboptimized on purpose as a means to feel 336 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:52.879 good when you upgrade them, I think that that's something 337 00:14:52.960 --> 00:14:55.000 I would like if I was a pre con mod 338 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:58.159 kind of player. I'm not, no, I mean I'm not either, 339 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:00.960 but that kind of thing. I appreciate what you're saying 340 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:04.000 that I can see how it would be like appealing. 341 00:15:03.639 --> 00:15:05.559 And I think that you are you are correct. I 342 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:08.000 think that you are based on my experiences with those. 343 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:11.000 I got to play a couple of New Dusk Warning cards, 344 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:12.600 and by a couple, I mean I got to play 345 00:15:12.639 --> 00:15:15.799 the same one three times. It was screaming Nemesis each time, 346 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:18.440 and each time because I was playing with five color. 347 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:20.879 Scream screaming Nemesis. That's one that has your life total. 348 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.600 Right, No, that's the one that when it takes damage, 349 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:24.879 you can deal damage to something else. Kind of brash 350 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.000 tauntosh but if it hits a player, they can't gain 351 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:28.639 life for the rest of the game. And I was 352 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:30.960 playing with five colored monowad angel Aira and who always 353 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:31.960 has life gain in his deck. 354 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:32.600 Yeah, get bent. 355 00:15:32.840 --> 00:15:35.840 So it's just like there we go, and he was 356 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:39.159 just he looked at it and was like that turns 357 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:41.639 my whole deck off. And I was like, yep, better 358 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:44.200 not attack me then, and then it's like okay, fine, 359 00:15:44.240 --> 00:15:46.600 I won't and then he attacked Ben and then it 360 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:48.960 goes around to Ben's turning like hey, Ben says, what 361 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:53.519 it's nice two? Two? You got there? Yeah, I got 362 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.399 a three three you could attack into and old Aaron's 363 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:57.840 gonna take two and can't gain life for the rest 364 00:15:57.840 --> 00:16:01.320 of the game. And Aaron's like and then we got him. 365 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:01.960 It was really good. 366 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:05.159 Yeah good. Last time I played a deck played against 367 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.159 him in one of his stupid life game decks, he's 368 00:16:07.200 --> 00:16:08.000 at like eighty nine. 369 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:09.799 Yeah, and he would have been at eighty nine like 370 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:11.639 right away too. Yeah, we got him right at the 371 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:14.080 right time, the screaming Nemesis. I can vouch for great 372 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:15.519 card fantastic. 373 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.919 Good, good good, and pre cons. We were kind of right, yeah, 374 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:21.440 we're yeah, well you know what we are doing tomorrow. 375 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:23.840 We are doing a pre con commander. 376 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:25.279 Right, yep, we are doing a pre con deck. The 377 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.000 buddy that sent it in said that he heard us 378 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:30.399 talking shit about it. It's the civic one. Yeah, and 379 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:31.559 we don't don't. 380 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:32.840 Give you own any more information. 381 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:35.440 It's like, you know what, I think I can. I'm 382 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:37.720 gonna take this on and I'm gonna I can do it. 383 00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:40.720 And he built a deck that actually does seem like 384 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:43.480 a would be pretty good and it looks fun to play. 385 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:45.480 I think is the best part. I'm excited to talk 386 00:16:45.480 --> 00:16:46.600 about this deck that I do have. 387 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:48.440 I guess yeah, I do have lots of notes on 388 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:51.039 it for the booster Pack game. Two ways to enter. Okay, 389 00:16:51.519 --> 00:16:54.080 you can let us know what pre cons you've played 390 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:56.240 with or against, and which ones you like, which ones 391 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:59.440 you think we're wrong about from last week's review, or whatever. 392 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:02.759 If you have any experience with dusk Wren that is, 393 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:05.680 or if you're a Patreon supporter, you're gonna get picked 394 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:09.640 at random from all of the active patrons, and I 395 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:12.680 have a Patreon winner from last week. Okay, okay, we're 396 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.599 gonna read the name. Okay, and then whoever that person is, 397 00:17:15.599 --> 00:17:17.559 they gotta let us know via email commanded Cook at 398 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:20.319 gmail dot com. If you want a CEO sticker pack, 399 00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:24.000 he Ceco token pack, yeah, or Crime old pack a 400 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:26.880 magic Look at look at it on the screen. You 401 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:30.400