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<v Speaker 1>not won but two prestigious Marconi Awards for his broadcast exodence,

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<v Speaker 1>the one and only Bill Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 2>All right now, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. What a

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<v Speaker 2>glorious Sunday night. Throughout the nation and the world things

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<v Speaker 2>are happening. There's a report out of Fox News that

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<v Speaker 2>before midnight tonight, what's about about two hours from now

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<v Speaker 2>or less than that, we're going to have a report

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<v Speaker 2>out of the Trump administration that they're firing about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred more USA workers. And the notice is going

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<v Speaker 2>out now as we speak on this Sunday night, getting

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<v Speaker 2>ready for this week. It's going to be a great week.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched, of course, sixty minutes as much as I

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<v Speaker 2>could with my finger stuck down my throat, watching the

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<v Speaker 2>report of Scott Pelley about how important the Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Justice has been to the United States of America, comparing

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<v Speaker 2>a constitutional crisis to what happened in nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 2>and nineteen seventy four with Richard Nixon, going back to

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen twenty seven when President to Andrew Jackson said, if

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<v Speaker 2>this Supreme Court rules against me, let them enforce their

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<v Speaker 2>own So the media, especially sixty Minutes, it's about to

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<v Speaker 2>pay I think Donald Trump about ten million dollars in

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<v Speaker 2>damages for the non reporting of the interview of Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a different matter. That the media drumbeat is

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<v Speaker 2>beginning to get louder, that this is some illegitimate president

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<v Speaker 2>who shouldn't be doing what he's doing. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>thesis of Scott Pelly Tonight on Sixty Minutes was that

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Justice is the final arbitrator of all

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<v Speaker 2>things right, good and just in the entire world, and

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<v Speaker 2>that somehow, if Donald Trump wants to install his own

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<v Speaker 2>people at the Department of Justice, which has happened for

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<v Speaker 2>the past one hundred years by almost every president, that

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<v Speaker 2>somehow that is sick and it's wrong, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional crisis. And I watched some of this report, I

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<v Speaker 2>harkened back to all the topics you and I have

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<v Speaker 2>listened to and done together, and that is what the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden administration did purposely to Donald Trump, not just Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>but to everyone around Donald Trump in the White House's lawyers,

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<v Speaker 2>his consultants, including chiefs of staff, etc. To bring them

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<v Speaker 2>down with the goal of getting Donald Trump locked up

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<v Speaker 2>before the twenty twenty four election. And but for the

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<v Speaker 2>stupidity and the recalcitrance of certain special counsel, it likely

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<v Speaker 2>would have happened. I often say when I speak to

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<v Speaker 2>members of the Trump family the road not taken, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no question in my mind that if Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Smith was a bit more competent and started this thing

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<v Speaker 2>a year before he started it under the auspices of

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<v Speaker 2>Mary Garland, Joe Biden, who repeatedly said he wanted Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump prosecuted.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes he did.

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<v Speaker 2>The President said, prosecute directly and indirectly Donald Trump. If

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<v Speaker 2>he would have started that damn thing a year before

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<v Speaker 2>he did, and this thing was before a jury in

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<v Speaker 2>d C in Washington, d C. Is there any doubt

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<v Speaker 2>in your mind what the vericut would have been, Any

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<v Speaker 2>doubt in your mind that Judge Tanya Chudkin, who is

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<v Speaker 2>Obama appoint in a left winger, would have sent Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump to jail. She would have locked him up forthwith

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<v Speaker 2>and threw away the key. So how lucky. I often

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<v Speaker 2>say the prayer of the archangel Michael about the evil

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<v Speaker 2>crawling the earth looking to ruin souls and destroy lives.

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<v Speaker 2>And the system came close to being overwhelmed, not by

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, but by the illegalities of the FBI and

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Justice at the highest level. And so

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<v Speaker 2>when I watched this report tonight in sixty minutes, I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe my eyes that I was hearing that sixty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes was saying, you know what, the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 2>and the FBI will be used by Donald Trump to

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<v Speaker 2>go after his political opponents, which is precisely which is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what Joe Biden and Barack Hussein Obama and Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris did for twelve twelve years after the political opponents

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<v Speaker 2>of the Democrats. That's what they did, and panel grand juries,

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<v Speaker 2>frighten people to death, and they did everything in their

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<v Speaker 2>power to make sure Donald Trump was not eligible to

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<v Speaker 2>run for the presidency. And it just didn't work out

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<v Speaker 2>by timing wise, and the fact that Judge Chunkin couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get the defendant in front of her in time. The

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<v Speaker 2>case that went first was the one in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a joke, that was unbelievable to put that

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<v Speaker 2>thing on trial, And at some point in the next

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<v Speaker 2>six months, that entire thing will be reversed and Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>so to speak, will not be a convicted felon. He

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<v Speaker 2>will be a free man, the victim of a political

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<v Speaker 2>witch hunt that was started by the Democrats to go

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<v Speaker 2>after Donald Trump, and so much more so, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of snickered. I snickered tonight watching Scott Pelly and his erudite,

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<v Speaker 2>arrogant fashion talk about how Donald Trump is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a threat to democracy. Well, that's what I've been

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<v Speaker 2>watching for the last eight to twelve years. As the

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<v Speaker 2>Department of Justice went after Catholic churches, the Knights of Columbus,

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<v Speaker 2>after grandmothers who prayed in front of abortion clinics. They

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<v Speaker 2>weaponized the Department of Justice against their political opponents. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that the shoe was on the other foot, from the

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<v Speaker 2>left foot to the right foot. Now it's completely disreputable

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<v Speaker 2>what Donald Trump seeks to do to get the truth out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do trust Palm Pam BONDI the new Attorney

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<v Speaker 2>General and also the new FBI director, Cash Ptel, to

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<v Speaker 2>do what's right within the law, and not to give

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Clinton a free pass who bleach bit at her

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<v Speaker 2>servers under a subpoena and took a jackhammer to him,

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<v Speaker 2>and not to Joe Biden, who had classified materials when

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't the president as a senator at a VP

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<v Speaker 2>and he couldn't be classify in different locations including his garage,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden he wasn't mentally incompetent.

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<v Speaker 3>Couldn't be prosecutor are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what the Department of Justice did, and it's sick

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<v Speaker 2>and it's sad. So I just I sat there a

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<v Speaker 2>few hours ago and just be mused at the idea

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<v Speaker 2>at sixty minutes was going to be the arbitrator of

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<v Speaker 2>using the Department of Justice to go after one's political opponents,

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<v Speaker 2>which is exactly what happened, exactly what happened to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>And also in a sense Richard Nixon, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to relate to gay Watergate. What he did in Watergate

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong, but he did the same things politically that

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic presidents including John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>had did repeatedly. He came out of that genre. But

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<v Speaker 2>on one hand, you couldn't go after Kennedy obviously, and

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<v Speaker 2>Johnson was a media favorite and media darling. So by

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<v Speaker 2>the time he left office, and four years after he

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<v Speaker 2>left office, he was dead, and it was simply thought

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<v Speaker 2>that we'll go after the Republican. Richard Nixon in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two got forty nine out of fifty states, had

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with Watergate, but then he engaged in

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<v Speaker 2>behavior to cover it up, which other president aident's Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>and Republican they had done for decades. Doesn't make it right,

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<v Speaker 2>but it makes it political. So get ready. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a rough ride this week. But a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of things I want to bring it first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 2>You know about my feelings about cops, about police officers,

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<v Speaker 2>the thin blue line between democracy and anarchy, and we

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<v Speaker 2>lost a few great ones the last few days. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching TV on Friday night and I see that an

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<v Speaker 2>old friend of mine is now the chief of police

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<v Speaker 2>in Virginia Beach.

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Paul Newdigate.

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<v Speaker 2>He spent about twenty years as an assistant chief in

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<v Speaker 2>the city of Cincinnati where I live. In broadcast from

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<v Speaker 2>It's about the best there is. Chief Newdigate reported that

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<v Speaker 2>two young officers were gunned down in the streets of

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia Beach. I want you to know their names tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and before you go to bed tonight, I would like

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<v Speaker 2>you to consider saying a silent prayer for the repose

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<v Speaker 2>of the soul. A police officer Cameron Gerwin and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old, been on the forces for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years, and also officer Christopher Reese, thirty years old.

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<v Speaker 2>And Friday night, they were doing routine traffic patrol and

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<v Speaker 2>they noticed an expired license plate of someone. They simply

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<v Speaker 2>pulled the car over, which is happening tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of time every day, every night in America. And unbeknownst

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<v Speaker 2>to them, there was a felon in that car within

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<v Speaker 2>the legal gun in his possession. He had numerous felon convictions.

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<v Speaker 2>His name was John McCoy. And they walked up the

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<v Speaker 2>side of the car asked for as for the license,

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<v Speaker 2>proof of insurance and registration. He didn't have it available

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<v Speaker 2>because he didn't have one. Unbeknownst to them, they were

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<v Speaker 2>a few seconds of being murdered. They told mister McCoy,

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<v Speaker 2>John McCoy, you got to get out of the car.

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<v Speaker 2>He refused to get out of the car. He finally

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<v Speaker 2>was coursed to leave the vehicle. He gets out of

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<v Speaker 2>the car and pulls out of his jacket pocket a

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<v Speaker 2>pistol shoots both officers. Officers went down in the streets

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<v Speaker 2>of Virginia Beach, and then he stood over both of

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<v Speaker 2>them and shot them again and again, defenseless on the

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<v Speaker 2>streets of Virginia Beach. And at this point the police

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<v Speaker 2>convened on the site. He was located a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 2>yards away in a shed hiding and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>single gunshot wound administered to the side of his temple.

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<v Speaker 2>And John McCoy right now is riding in hell with

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<v Speaker 2>many others and these two officers. The funerals are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be later this week, and just I will say

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<v Speaker 2>a prayer of thanks for the sacrifice these men, these

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<v Speaker 2>guys made on my behalf is the thin blue line

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<v Speaker 2>betweent de marcros and anarchy, anarchy once again. It's Officer

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<v Speaker 2>Cameron Gervin g I r v N, twenty five years

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<v Speaker 2>old and Officer Christopher Reese, only thirty years old, murdered

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<v Speaker 2>executed on the streets of Virginia Beach. Then, also about

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<v Speaker 2>a day and a half ago, this has become an

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<v Speaker 2>all too common event. There was a person who was

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<v Speaker 2>angry about the medical care provided to a friend of his.

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<v Speaker 2>They think that's the motive, but the police in York,

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<v Speaker 2>PA are not exactly sure. Governor Shapiro did a fine

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<v Speaker 2>news conference a couple of days ago, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a criminal named Diogenes Ortiz, forty nine years old who

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<v Speaker 2>reported to the UPMC Memorial Hospital in York, Pennsylvania with

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<v Speaker 2>zip ties and a weapon. He invaded the intensive care

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<v Speaker 2>unit at the UPMC Memorial Hospital and the attacked targeted

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<v Speaker 2>specific individuals who he perceived as being medical individuals who

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<v Speaker 2>did not assist a friend of theirs.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, it's only been a couple.

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<v Speaker 2>Of days, so actually why the motive might be not

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<v Speaker 2>as clear as it will be in the future. But

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<v Speaker 2>this man, this murderer, a zip tide, a couple nurses

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<v Speaker 2>and doc targeting specific staff members who allegedly did not

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<v Speaker 2>provide care to a friend of his. Officer Andrew Douart,

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<v Speaker 2>very young cop, but he's been at it for about

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<v Speaker 2>five or six years, ran toward the difficulties. Shots were

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<v Speaker 2>fired and Officer Andrew Duhart was murdered inside the hospital

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<v Speaker 2>and others were injured and wounded, but they will survive.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, add Officer Andrew Douart to your list of

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<v Speaker 2>a brave American who stepped forward. And this is a wave.

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<v Speaker 2>When I went to a Google search on this, there

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<v Speaker 2>has been an increase and that's why we have John

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<v Speaker 2>Lott coming up later of political medical assassinations in which

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<v Speaker 2>individuals seemingly are displeased with medical care, medical services, or

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<v Speaker 2>the hospital industry or the healthcare business, and it taken

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<v Speaker 2>of course, to what happened with Luigi Mangioni, the murderer

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<v Speaker 2>as if this is justified. How many times have you

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<v Speaker 2>heard the past three or four months that the murder

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<v Speaker 2>of Brian Thompson was somehow justified. It was somehow justified

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<v Speaker 2>because he was the CEO of You're Not of Healthcare,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a for profit business operating within the laws

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<v Speaker 2>of this country. And Luigi hunted him down, spent weeks

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty five, that six brave Marines raised the American

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<v Speaker 2>flag on Ewajima's Mount Sarabaci in commemoration of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that after several weeks of fighting, vicious, cruel, unbelievable violence

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<v Speaker 2>this was a circumstance where it was thought, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>wave the American flag, which will rally the troops, and

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<v Speaker 2>out because of Rosia Mo Nagasaki probably did not have

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty six for the assault on the Japanese mainland.

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<v Speaker 2>But at that point in March, in February and March

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<v Speaker 2>of nineteen forty five was uncertain the ending of the war,

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<v Speaker 2>and so at that point there were seven thousand Marines killed.

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<v Speaker 2>with Jimma, only about one hundred and seventy five Japanese

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<v Speaker 2>soldiers remain. They killed themselves or in waves of attacks

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<v Speaker 2>on American marines would be killed. And that brings up

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<v Speaker 2>the whole concept I think of unconditional surrender. The only

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<v Speaker 2>and to win there is no substitute for victory. I

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<v Speaker 2>recall the great scene of Georgie Patten and the movie

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<v Speaker 2>Patent Late and I think sixty eight or sixty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>referring to a childless, a child without a known father,

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<v Speaker 2>but he said, American soldiers will win this war not

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<v Speaker 2>make the enemy die for their country. And America won

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<v Speaker 2>that war with unconditional surrender of the Germans, the Italians,

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<v Speaker 2>the Austrians, and of course the Japanese unconditional surrender. It

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<v Speaker 2>was thought, okay, let's have some plan here, let's do

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<v Speaker 2>something to have some conditional surrender. And whoever was in charge,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was FDR or was Harry S. Truman, he said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's unconditional surrender. We occupy your island, we occupy your homeland.

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<v Speaker 2>We will prosecute this thing until total victory. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>to a point here about Israel, and the fact is

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<v Speaker 2>that when the existence of this country was at stake,

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<v Speaker 2>what did we do? Did we have conditional surrender? Did

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<v Speaker 2>we not use everything in our power, in our prestige

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<v Speaker 2>to save this country, which I consider to be God's

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<v Speaker 2>representative on Earth, of course not We firebombed Dresden one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand civilians. We leveled every German city, killing millions

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<v Speaker 2>and millions of innocent men, women and children. In a

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<v Speaker 2>sense they were Germans. They weren't in the battle, but

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<v Speaker 2>they were Germans. They were part of the effort. And

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<v Speaker 2>when it came time to go after Japan that viciously

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<v Speaker 2>killed about two thousand of our citizens of Pear Harbor

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<v Speaker 2>on the summer of the seventh nineteen forty one, there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't much outcry of using too much force against the

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<v Speaker 2>nation's enemy, that that is, the nation of Japan, and

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<v Speaker 2>did everything in their power to make the Japanese surrender

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of time before the two bombs were dropped on

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<v Speaker 2>August the sixth and August the ninth, nineteen forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>on Hiroshima and then Nagasaki, and the words of the

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<v Speaker 2>Emperor Hirohito were heard for the first time over a

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast provided by the American military forces to tell his

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<v Speaker 3>That's it, it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we occupied the island, We occupied German and

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<v Speaker 2>we won.

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<v Speaker 3>We won.

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<v Speaker 2>They lost total war, and every means necessary We brought

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<v Speaker 2>the war. They wanted war, We brought it. But we've

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<v Speaker 2>not really won a war since nineteen forty five because

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<v Speaker 2>civilization would not allow it to occur. When I spent

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<v Speaker 2>time in Israel, their existence is at stake. Just a

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<v Speaker 2>few days ago, there was a plan to blow up

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<v Speaker 2>five buses and trains packed with Israelis on their way

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<v Speaker 2>to work. Sadly, someone put in the wrong time of

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<v Speaker 2>the timer on the bombs on the buses and the trains.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of having go off at nine am Tel Aviv time,

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<v Speaker 2>it was nine pm and that was the default, and

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<v Speaker 3>To go off.

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<v Speaker 2>They intended to kill literally thousands and thousands of Jews

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<v Speaker 2>every chance they get.

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<v Speaker 3>What do they do? They kill Jews?

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<v Speaker 2>And so much like America in nineteen forty five, we must,

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<v Speaker 2>as supporters of Israel, encourage Benjamin Netanyahu to have unconditional

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<v Speaker 2>surrender of a moss has Blat in Iran and end

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<v Speaker 2>this war once and for all. Let's continue with more.

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<v Speaker 2>Will set up more later on Bill cunning In The

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<v Speaker 2>Great American with you every Sunday night by Billy cunning

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<v Speaker 2>Him the Great American. Let's set up tonight's big show.

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<v Speaker 2>We've scheduled. They have you and I join us tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform. He's so pleased

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<v Speaker 2>he can't stand it anymore about what's happening to the

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<v Speaker 2>American economy. Also John Lott, former Deputy Attorney General under

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump on the first ideation about what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen now is that there will be more reporting of

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<v Speaker 2>crimes committed instead of prosecutions, because, as you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>last of four years, every time you turn on the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream media, they would tell you, you know what, crime is down.

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<v Speaker 3>Crime is down.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no arrest are down, indictments are down. But actually

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<v Speaker 2>crime is up. Crime in America, as you know, is up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's demonstrated by the few remarks I made the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>about the killing of so many police officers and killing

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<v Speaker 2>of those involved in the medical industry. When the expectations

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<v Speaker 2>are one thing, the reality is another. They have someone

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<v Speaker 2>and to take hostage doctors and nurses, and then to

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<v Speaker 2>have a police officer murdered in the process, that the

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<v Speaker 2>murderer killed an innocent police officer, particularly discussing let's continue

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<v Speaker 2>four seven seven three three seven. Also later on tonight

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<v Speaker 2>is is a man named gorm who's a great environmentalists

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of came lust about an hour ago.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the individuals in podcasting and talk radio I

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<v Speaker 2>really enjoyed listening to other than the great one Mark Levin,

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<v Speaker 2>of course and Jean Hannity, was the great Dan Bongino.

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<v Speaker 2>It was announced about an hour or so ago by

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<v Speaker 2>as deputy director of the FBI under a course Cash Patel,

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<v Speaker 2>both those are friends. I knew that Dan spent about

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<v Speaker 2>ten or twelve years in the Secret Service. He spent

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<v Speaker 2>about ten years in the New York Police Department, also

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<v Speaker 2>a close friend of Cash. Patel just confirmed to sworn

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<v Speaker 2>in I think on Thursday or Friday, and he's going

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<v Speaker 2>false affidavis with the Pviza court, green lighting lies about

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<v Speaker 2>the so called Russian collusion delusion and also the Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI, it's Cash battel and I think Jay Egor

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<v Speaker 2>Hoover would be rolling over in his grave. And also

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Bongino will be appointed deputy director. And stories don't

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<v Speaker 2>indicate whether he must be confirmed by the Senate, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think he probably does. And this is the latest

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<v Speaker 2>sign that Trump has committed to cleaning house at the

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<v Speaker 2>FBI that needs it badly. And he'll report directly to

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<v Speaker 2>Pam Bondi Director of National Intelligence Telsea Gabbert, of course

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<v Speaker 2>through Cash. Pttel who will be now is the head

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<v Speaker 2>of the FBI. And Patel had experiences in a lawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>high ranking official. Bongino has practical law enforcement experience, former

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<v Speaker 2>Secret Service and Secret Service, former police officer and an agent.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, I see a lot of video of Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Bongino protecting Barack Hussein Obama, and I have people like

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<v Speaker 2>this in charge of the FBI, sending a message that

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<v Speaker 2>the core mission must be returned to the rank and

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<v Speaker 2>as it's been for the past fifteen or twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>And despite the protestations of sixty minutes in Scott Pelly tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI the last ten to twenty years has been

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<v Speaker 2>most famously in twenty sixteen when James Comy kind of

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<v Speaker 2>admitted that Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State and first Lady,

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<v Speaker 2>committed numerous serious felonies, but of course no jury in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Dan Bongino and cash Pttel will be given

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<v Speaker 2>to those standards. And so despite the arguments of sixty

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<v Speaker 2>in a while. And one thing that kind of irritates

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<v Speaker 2>many times on racial grounds or ecumenical grounds of one

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<v Speaker 2>the cabinet of Donald Trump, it is very diverse. Given

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<v Speaker 2>Marco Rubio is the first Hispanic to head up our

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<v Speaker 2>The head of the Treasury is Scott Bissett. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>apporting Scott Bissett the Treasury. Or Rick Grenell been on

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<v Speaker 2>my show several times. He's the envoy to get hostages

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<v Speaker 2>all that. Scott Turner, who's African American, great football player

420
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<v Speaker 2>at HUD. Throw on top of that Bobby Kennedy Junior.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?

422
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<v Speaker 2>Serving in a Republican administration Health and Human Services? You

423
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<v Speaker 2>talk about a cabinet. Throw on top of that. Cash Betel,

424
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<v Speaker 2>director of the FBI, and now Dan Bongino. It's the

425
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<v Speaker 2>it's fabulous, it's wonderful. Look at it. Throw on top

426
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<v Speaker 2>of that Pete Hegseth that he's not Lloyd Austin, who

427
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<v Speaker 2>needs to lose about one hundred pounds, who won a wall,

428
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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of Defense, who was with Raytheon for years, cashed

429
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<v Speaker 2>out his tickets as a four star, went to Raytheon

430
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<v Speaker 2>a defense contractor, made millions and millions of dollars in

431
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<v Speaker 2>this lobbyist, came back to become Secretary of Defense. Did

432
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<v Speaker 2>the media cover it that way? I don't think so.

433
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Pete Hegseth got buyed by the skin of his teeth.

434
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<v Speaker 2>I think he was at fifty was it fifty to

435
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<v Speaker 2>fifty to forty maybe fifty to forty eight. He just

436
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:05.599
<v Speaker 2>barely got through because of the vote of JD.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Vance.

438
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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of look at what's going on here,

439
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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking this is fabulous. So the vote on

440
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<v Speaker 2>Hegseth was fifty to fifty and then JD Vance broke it.

441
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<v Speaker 2>It's a wonderful thing to watch a diverse, bright, intelligent

442
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<v Speaker 2>committeed cabinet wanting to do the bidding of the elected

443
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<v Speaker 2>president who won the parality of votes and he got

444
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<v Speaker 2>seventy seven million votes. Donald Trump did seventy seven million.

445
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:32.440
<v Speaker 2>And I still have my doubts about twenty twenty. How

446
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden got eighty one million votes, which is sixteen

447
00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 2>million more votes than Barack Hussein Obama, which is four

448
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>million more votes than Donald Trump got in this election.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Somehow sleepy Joe got eighty one million votes. I have

450
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<v Speaker 2>my doubts, but nonetheless, this is good news. Dan Bongino

451
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<v Speaker 2>is leaving the world of talk. He's going to give

452
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:55.519
<v Speaker 2>up his podcast and his talk radio duties and he's

453
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<v Speaker 2>going to go work for the president because he has

454
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<v Speaker 2>that calling. So for the fans of Dan Gino, it's

455
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<v Speaker 2>a loss for the country. It is my view a

456
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<v Speaker 2>great gain now page two. I sound like Paul Harvey,

457
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<v Speaker 2>good day. And that is this that America's existence as

458
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<v Speaker 2>a nation has been challenged once or twice in American history,

459
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<v Speaker 2>and each time it was challenged, America went to war,

460
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<v Speaker 2>unconditional war, unconditional surrender. The first time, you may think

461
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.880
<v Speaker 2>it was the War of eighteen twelve when the bridge

462
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<v Speaker 2>burned down, burned the Capitol in the White House. In fact,

463
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<v Speaker 2>when I went to the I had some friendship with

464
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<v Speaker 2>Nuke ingrig and he showed me the bloodstains on the

465
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<v Speaker 2>marble steps of the Capitol in which individuals were defending

466
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<v Speaker 2>the capitol against the burning of the capitol. But there

467
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<v Speaker 2>was a sense even in eighteen fifteen that there was

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be the taking over of America by

469
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<v Speaker 2>the Brits. In eighteen sixty one, absolutely America went to

470
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<v Speaker 2>a total war North versus the South. The South for Democrats,

471
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<v Speaker 2>and the Democrats wanted to secede from the Union. Abraham Lincoln,

472
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<v Speaker 2>a Republican, said nah babanah, nah babanah, No, we'll go

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<v Speaker 2>to war. So the South started the war by firing

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<v Speaker 2>on Fort Sumter. It took about two years for Abe

475
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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln to find Ulysses S. Grant, and it was total war,

476
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<v Speaker 2>using all the armaments available in the eighteen sixties, resulting

477
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<v Speaker 2>in six hundred thousand deaths minimum in the North and

478
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<v Speaker 2>the South, and the Confederacy the Democrats were defeated, Slavery

479
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:31.599
<v Speaker 2>was gone. Abraham Lincoln then was killed April the thirteenth

480
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<v Speaker 2>of eighteen sixty five, and then President Johnson took over

481
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<v Speaker 2>from Tennessee and the rest is history. But there was

482
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:42.960
<v Speaker 2>a chance that America would not exist if the Confederacy

483
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<v Speaker 2>had won the war and they would have seceded from

484
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<v Speaker 2>the Union. They would have tried to get the Western

485
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>States to join their way of thinking. The country would

486
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:52.039
<v Speaker 2>have been on the wrong track in the country wouldn't

487
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<v Speaker 2>have existed. In nineteen forty one, America went to a

488
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<v Speaker 2>total war, and it began, of course, with the attack

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<v Speaker 2>on Pearl Harbor. But then for the next almost four

490
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 2>years America had added We used every means in our method.

491
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>We firebombed and carpet bomb the European cities and Japanese cities.

492
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:13.519
<v Speaker 2>They wanted war, and we gave it to them. And

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day. There was some thought

494
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<v Speaker 2>that maybe in Japan we should not demand unconditional surrender,

495
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>but that was quickly dispatched at that point by Harry S.

496
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<v Speaker 2>Truman and said, no unconditional surrender, there are no terms.

497
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<v Speaker 2>There was a time in Upomattox when General Lee, meeting

498
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<v Speaker 2>with Ulysses, asked Grant wanted the terms of this surrender.

499
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<v Speaker 2>What kind of terms would you like, Ulysses asked. Grant

500
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<v Speaker 2>looked at him by the way from the state of Ohio,

501
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:43.319
<v Speaker 2>and said, unconditional surrender. What do you mean? And there

502
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.559
<v Speaker 2>was no doubt that when the existence of the nation

503
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<v Speaker 2>is at risk, the first thing that must do is

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00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 2>have unconditional surrender. We win, you lose.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a great fear tonight, this Sunday night, that

507
00:28:58.160 --> 00:29:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Israel will not be frommitted to have a total victory

508
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>over the forces of darkness and evil. We see with

509
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Hesbla Hamas the youthis and also what's happening in Iran.

510
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I have a sense that Boca Haram or Isis whatever

511
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.319
<v Speaker 2>it might be, could be dispatched quickly by the Israeli military.

512
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<v Speaker 2>There's no explanation I think up to this point for

513
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Israel's behavior. If America's existence was at stake as a nation,

514
00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>what would we do. We would fight like warrior poets.

515
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>We would fire bomb and carpetbamb Americans foreign cities. We

516
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:36.720
<v Speaker 2>would call up twelve million more Army, Navy, Air Force personnel,

517
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>and we would fight like warrior poets to save this country.

518
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Israel has been constrained for so long, not able to

519
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>win the war. We have not won a war in

520
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>a sense since nineteen forty five. Korea was a halfway deal.

521
00:29:51.559 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Vietnam was a loss, Iraq was a loss, Afghanistan was

522
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.559
<v Speaker 2>a loss. We participate in wars, but we don't win them.

523
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<v Speaker 2>In the case of Israel, they do not have a

524
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<v Speaker 2>choice because their existence is at stake. What we did

525
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<v Speaker 2>in Korea, what we did in Vietnam, what we did

526
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>in Iraq, what we did in Afghanistan, the existence of

527
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.599
<v Speaker 2>our country was not at stake, so we pussy footed

528
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>around and didn't win any of those wars. One might

529
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.319
<v Speaker 2>say Korea War was a halfway victory, and that's it.

530
00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 2>We had the power to destroy North Korea and to

531
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:28.839
<v Speaker 2>oppose our will on them, but we failed to do so,

532
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 2>and ever since then, that is the template. In Israel's case,

533
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<v Speaker 2>They're in a completely different circumstance. Would you agree. When

534
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<v Speaker 2>I spent time in Israel about two years ago, I

535
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>saw a functioning Western style democracy. I saw churches in Jerusalem.

536
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<v Speaker 2>I saw churches Catholic churches in Tel Aviv. I saw

537
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Muslim facilities all over the place. I saw Jewish ideations

538
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 2>all over the place. I saw a country with about

539
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:04.200
<v Speaker 2>six million Jews and about four million others who aren't

540
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<v Speaker 2>Jews but live in peace in Israel. I saw border

541
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>crossings in which every day twenty to thirty thousand Palestinians

542
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 2>would go from Gaza or the West Bank into Israel

543
00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>to work in return. I saw it constantly. I saw

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00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 2>functioning of functioning Western style democracy, with women and girls

545
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.559
<v Speaker 2>having rights, with educational facilities, with first class medical care,

546
00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 2>with a farming community second to none, and a high

547
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 2>tech industry that was growing. And I saw, because of

548
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the Abraham Accords, a nation ready to be accepted in

549
00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the Middle East as a functioning democracy in which Palestinians

550
00:31:39.880 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>live in peace inside Israel. How is it possible that

551
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:48.720
<v Speaker 2>about twenty percent of the Kanessant is governed by Arab Muslims,

552
00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.519
<v Speaker 2>and that's the governing power inside Israel. That's the way

553
00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>they It is a Western style democracy. It's unfortunate that

554
00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the fact of life is what Israel has been doing

555
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 2>up to this point will not win the war. In war,

556
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:08.039
<v Speaker 2>there is no substitute for victory. The existence of Israel

557
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 2>is at stake. If the forces of evil in the

558
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<v Speaker 2>Middle East had the same military power of Israel, and

559
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Israel had the power of Lebanon or Jordan or Egypt,

560
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:22.599
<v Speaker 2>guess what Israel would not exist. And right now someone's

561
00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>got to decide, maybe it's Netsan Yahu or others. We

562
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:28.759
<v Speaker 2>must win this war and do what is necessary to win.

563
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>War is terrible, War is brutal. War is particularly unkind

564
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:37.200
<v Speaker 2>to innocent men, women and children. It is awful. But

565
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 2>as indicated about it four or five days ago, via

566
00:32:41.279 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 2>those five bus bombs that were planned, no one got

567
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.440
<v Speaker 2>hurt because one of the Hamas terrorists put the wrong

568
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>timing mechanism at nine pm instead of nine am. If

569
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>it had gone off as intended, there would have been

570
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>dozens or hundreds more Jews killed. This will go on

571
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<v Speaker 2>and on and on until Hamas and has failed to exist,

572
00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>until Iran is on its back. There is no substitute

573
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<v Speaker 2>for victory except the unconditional surrender. Any military power on

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<v Speaker 2>Earth that had just suffered the losses of Hesbla and

575
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>a Moss at the hands of the IDF would say,

576
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 2>at this point, we give in, we quit. Did you

577
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<v Speaker 2>see the smiling faces of hundreds or a few thousand

578
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>of a Moss and their supporters handing over the bodies

579
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.519
<v Speaker 2>of that proud mother eventually and then the two little

580
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<v Speaker 2>babies that were brutally murdered at the hands of a

581
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Moss literally using their hands. To me, it is unbelievable

582
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>what happened to Israel and how restraint they have shown

583
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:44.119
<v Speaker 2>because until October, until the attack in October. On October seventh,

584
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, it was the largest attack in Israel

585
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<v Speaker 2>since nineteen forty eight, since that war. A little known fact,

586
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<v Speaker 2>there were about four thousand rockets fired in the twenty

587
00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 2>one Jewish communities. There were hundreds of paragliders, well armed,

588
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.039
<v Speaker 2>hype up on drugs, who flew into twenty one different

589
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Jewish communities. About six thousand Hamas attackers were involved, including

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00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:14.320
<v Speaker 2>thousands of Palestinians themselves living in gossip. There were about

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00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty one hundred Jews murdered and about two hundred and

592
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>fifty hostages taken. Not just murdered, children were raped, babies

593
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 2>were beheaded, women went through a living hell watching their

594
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>husband and or children being burned at a steak. They

595
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:35.280
<v Speaker 2>were tortured, extremities who were severed from bodies. Cheryl Sandberg,

596
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:38.679
<v Speaker 2>who was with the Facebook and Google, documented much of

597
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>this and a documentary she did. It is truly unbelievable

598
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the brutality that Hamas showed toward the Jews in this contemptible,

599
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:51.760
<v Speaker 2>unprovoked attack that killed over two thousand Jews. The more

600
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<v Speaker 2>Jews died in one day that since the Holocaust, and

601
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<v Speaker 2>we just went through the commemoration of the opening the

602
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 2>rescuing of thousands of Jews in Auschwitz a couple of

603
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. And when you're in a war for your survivability,

604
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>the last thing you can do is be measured in

605
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<v Speaker 2>your response. One can only imagine a nineteen forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>say in February or March of nineteen forty five, if

607
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<v Speaker 2>someone would have said FDR was on his last legs,

608
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<v Speaker 2>then he died in April. I think April the twelfth,

609
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty five, that why don't we sue for peace

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<v Speaker 2>with Germany? This is getting too brutal. We're killing too

611
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 2>many civilians, they're killing Ourgis, we're killing theirs. How about

612
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<v Speaker 2>doing a government in Munich or in Bond whatever, and

613
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<v Speaker 2>we'll let Adolf Hitler or hers or his progenies they

614
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>involved governing Germany. Would anyone even think about such a thought?

615
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not if someone would have said, well, in Japan

616
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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen July nineteen forty five, let's sue for peace.

617
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<v Speaker 2>Let's not obliterate Japan. And we can't have that. Israel

618
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 2>must act as if there's survival is at stake. Fair

619
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.880
<v Speaker 2>to do so, We'll have terrible consequences as we continue.

620
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<v Speaker 2>I'll have some setting up the rest of tonight's show.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, Israel must win this war by any means necessary.

622
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<v Speaker 2>Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. I can only

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that after cash Bettel was sworn in on Friday,

624
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<v Speaker 2>that his first call was to his friend Dan Bongino

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<v Speaker 2>to join him as deputy director of the research. I've

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<v Speaker 2>just went through quickly indicated it has not Senate confirmed.

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<v Speaker 2>That means Dan Bongino can start work on Monday or

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<v Speaker 2>so getting the FBI back under control. Despite the protestations

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<v Speaker 2>of Scott Pelley at sixty minutes tonight, the FBI now

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<v Speaker 2>will be under control. When it was not under control

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<v Speaker 2>for the last fifteen or twenty years. One couldnot have

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<v Speaker 2>imagined an FBI doing its job by investigating the Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>Knights of Columbus or telling those who go to a

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<v Speaker 2>Latin mass or possible domestic terrorist, the Catholics that worship

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<v Speaker 2>the God, the true God is somehow they're un American.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine the FBI for years telling parents the

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<v Speaker 2>school board meetings, don't voice your opinion, We're going to

638
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<v Speaker 2>investigate you. A good FBI agent would have said, look

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<v Speaker 2>that the Russian collusion delusion is a farce and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a joke, and we know it's a joke, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to pursue that one. They would not submit

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<v Speaker 2>false affidavits to affisee a court, for example. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>the FBI has done at the top level, not at

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<v Speaker 2>the rank and file, of course in cities like Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>or Detroit or Miami, but at the FBI, the high level.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a terrible circumstance, and Scott Pelley should be told

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<v Speaker 2>that what he's seeking to have Donald Trump not do

648
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<v Speaker 2>has already been.

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<v Speaker 3>Done by the Democrats. Let's continue with more. Go Cunningham

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<v Speaker 3>with you every Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 2>By Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the American

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<v Speaker 2>renaissances underway. It's beginning in the first thirty days normally

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<v Speaker 2>accounted president, it's the first one hundred days. It seems

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<v Speaker 2>like he's been president for the last one hundred days.

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<v Speaker 2>Has only been a little more than thirty five days,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's getting bigger and better than ever before.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's in a good place when sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>attacks him. But nonetheless, Scott Powell is with the Discovery Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also a member of the Committee on the President

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<v Speaker 2>Danger China and a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute.

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<v Speaker 2>His timeless book was Rediscovering America, the number one Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>bestseller for about eight weeks. And of course last week

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<v Speaker 2>was President's Day, and I watched some of the media

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<v Speaker 2>going crazy, thinking, you know, what what we ought to

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<v Speaker 2>do is get rid of President's Day because we might

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<v Speaker 2>might be honoring Donald Trump, and which is not exactly

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<v Speaker 2>the case. And Scott Powell, welcome again to the Bill

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<v Speaker 2>Cunningham Show. And first of all, your colin, which is

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<v Speaker 2>at townhall dot com, is a great one. And this

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<v Speaker 2>one talks about the President's Day, et cetera. And it says,

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<v Speaker 2>among other things, that reflections on Washington, Lincoln, and Trump

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<v Speaker 2>on President's Day. And you link Trump with George Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>Abraham Lincoln, I would say Ronald Reagan. His portrait is

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<v Speaker 2>with the President over his left shoulder. Tell me why

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<v Speaker 2>you write such things about Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, Uh, each is very different, and but there are

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<v Speaker 5>qualities of character that linked these three people.

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<v Speaker 6>And and there.

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<v Speaker 5>The three things that I think are important are faith, courage,

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<v Speaker 5>and persistence. And of course you know Washington, Uh was

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<v Speaker 5>shot at in the French and Indian Warrior had four

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<v Speaker 5>bullet holes through his uniform. But a bullet didn't didn't

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<v Speaker 5>even put a scratch in his body.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, And that.

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<v Speaker 6>Gave that that that changed him.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, he knew that it was protected by God,

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<v Speaker 5>and that gave him great courage. Trump's same story. He

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<v Speaker 5>knows that it was God's protection that prevented him from

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<v Speaker 5>being assassinated in Butler, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 6>That that and he's a changed man. And uh, he

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<v Speaker 6>has incredible courage.

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<v Speaker 5>And and then the third quality that both these people

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<v Speaker 5>have as persistence.

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<v Speaker 6>They just don't stop. They never give up.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, we were outgunned, out maneuvered, outfunded,

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<v Speaker 5>out trained in the War of Independence against the greatest

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<v Speaker 5>military power in the world, that's Great Britain. But how

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<v Speaker 5>did we win. Well, we lost more battles than we won,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, George Washington lost more than he won. But

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<v Speaker 5>in the end, we defeated them at Yorktown. And they thought,

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<v Speaker 5>after six years, you know, we can't beat these people.

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<v Speaker 5>They're never going to give up, and so they just

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<v Speaker 5>they built it. You know, it's done.

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<v Speaker 6>To surrender. We'll call it a day.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things you say in your column,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is beautiful, is that Washington and Lincoln

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<v Speaker 2>agreed that America's greatest threat to national survival would come

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<v Speaker 2>from within rather than some military invasion. And when jd

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<v Speaker 2>Vance about ten days ago at the Munich Security Conference,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think Germany is now turning to conservatism again.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless he said to the Germans what had to

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<v Speaker 2>be said about Germany from within, not from without America.

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<v Speaker 2>It applies so starkly that when I watch what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>in our major cities. I look at what was going

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<v Speaker 2>on on the southern border, the northern border. I look

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<v Speaker 2>at our trade deficit with China was a trillion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a year. I can't have faed them a trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>I look at perhaps entities taking away the US dollar

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<v Speaker 2>as a reserve currency, and I look at all that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm thinking, my God, were we in trouble? And

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<v Speaker 2>I think, as God's representative on Earth is United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America. And if we fall, no one's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be left to pick us up. No one's going to

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<v Speaker 2>come to our assistance. That were the one indispensable power.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is it about Donald Trump that makes you

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<v Speaker 2>say that he recognizes the enemy is from within?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that was his experience.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think when he was elected in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 5>the first time, I think, you know, he'd come from business,

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<v Speaker 5>he really didn't understand the dark side of politics so well.

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<v Speaker 6>He was always a good deal maker.

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<v Speaker 5>He could get he could get along with the opposition

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<v Speaker 5>in his in his private life in business.

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<v Speaker 6>But boy, when he uh, when when he had.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh was elected to be president of the United States,

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<v Speaker 5>people that he thought were going to cooperate and help

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<v Speaker 5>him be his friends betrayed him. And uh, he had

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<v Speaker 5>a you know, he he had a very tough four years.

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<v Speaker 5>And what's so interesting. One thing that I say in

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<v Speaker 5>that article that I think you know, many others missed

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<v Speaker 5>was that was there was a bigger thing about God's

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<v Speaker 5>intervention in American life, uh, that that Trump is associated with.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Trump felt very strongly that he was that

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<v Speaker 5>that the voting irregular, the vote fraud prevented him from

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<v Speaker 5>getting uh, you know, getting a second term. That he

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<v Speaker 5>he won the election, but it was denied him because

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<v Speaker 5>of vote fraud, and he was determined to turn that around.

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<v Speaker 5>He asked people to come to Washington on January sixth,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know and make their voices be known that

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<v Speaker 5>if there were questionable electors, if the electoral College vote

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't you know they didn't sit right in about sixteen

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<v Speaker 5>station knows there were sixteen states that had questions, and

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<v Speaker 5>that they should send it back to the state and

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<v Speaker 5>then do a forensic type audit. But in any case,

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<v Speaker 5>he was fighting to have his second term. But you

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<v Speaker 5>know what God said. God knew that it would be

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<v Speaker 5>better if he was denied a second term, and that

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<v Speaker 5>he reflect on his first term. He learned the terran

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<v Speaker 5>he learned more about the enemy, and then American people

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<v Speaker 5>would also be subject to a horrible Biden administration, deep

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<v Speaker 5>state administration. And so it was that he had a

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<v Speaker 5>second term he skipped and his and look how successful

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<v Speaker 5>his his leadership is now. It's remarkable if he had

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<v Speaker 5>if he'd had a consecutive term, he would not have

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<v Speaker 5>accomplished what he's accomplished now.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to go through a forging, a foundry process

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<v Speaker 2>in which he became harder than blue steel. And if

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<v Speaker 2>he were to roll it into his second term, it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been like, well, h every day that passed,

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<v Speaker 2>what would be the end of him? But now I

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<v Speaker 2>have a sense the whole city's energized. Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 2>Is energized to do something great, whether it's Scott Bissett

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<v Speaker 2>or Scott Turner or Marco Rubio, as Susie Wiles or

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Granell. And I have a sense, Pete Hegseth that

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<v Speaker 2>whole crew would not have been available if he would

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<v Speaker 2>have won the second term when he did, when he

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<v Speaker 2>lost it, it would have been completely different. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you say God's hand, when I say God's representative on Earth,

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<v Speaker 2>the United States of America, he can see the future

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<v Speaker 2>of the president of the past. He knows what's going

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<v Speaker 2>to happen, and he allowed this to transpire. So Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump would be hardened by the enemies and freedom of liberty.

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<v Speaker 2>And right now we have a warrior in the White

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<v Speaker 2>House that would not have been there in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, That's that's the point I made though. But see,

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<v Speaker 5>but Trump was fighting for it, he wanted it, he

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<v Speaker 5>wanted it, but the hidden hand of Gods that nope, nope.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not right. You're going to have it your second term.

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<v Speaker 5>But you're gonna, we're gonna, we're going to give you

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<v Speaker 5>four years to prepare and we're going to get the

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<v Speaker 5>American people to have four years of suffering so that

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<v Speaker 5>the that the vote for you is overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me share with your permission.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I texted about two or three days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and I texted you the word boot it instead of

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<v Speaker 2>book it. And we set up the interview and then

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, boot it, and then I said book it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you say this to me, Well, I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of liked your instructions to boot it. Boot corruption out

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<v Speaker 2>of the US government, Boot the global cabal, Boot the

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<v Speaker 2>deep state democrats, Boot the illegal aliens, Boot eighty percent

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<v Speaker 2>out of the federal government. Boot the CCP China out

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<v Speaker 2>of Panama, and boot them out of the Western hemisphere.

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<v Speaker 2>Boot the Chinese out of US farmland, Boot the UN

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<v Speaker 2>out of New York.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's just a start. So explain.

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<v Speaker 2>And I read that and I said, that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good starting point for the interview. Boot corruption. I look

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<v Speaker 2>at the US eight I guess as an example. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one percent or less than the budget, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>in place to hide certain democratic individuals. And secondly, it

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<v Speaker 2>spreads this virus that transgenderism around the world. So why

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<v Speaker 2>is it important to eliminate USA it except for those

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<v Speaker 2>programs like having African kids not get polio. Absolutely, if

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<v Speaker 2>someone is suffering from HIV somewhere, okay, but that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what USA does.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's happening now is unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Explain when you say boot the corruption, can you identify

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<v Speaker 2>all the corruption or just some of it?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? There is so much. There is so much corruption.

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<v Speaker 5>Really have at least three sort of a nexus of corruption.

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<v Speaker 5>We have the military industrial complex, We have the medical

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<v Speaker 5>pharmaceutical industrial complex, and then we have the the media

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<v Speaker 5>high tech information complex.

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<v Speaker 6>And there are others, but those are those are.

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<v Speaker 5>Three that have really, you know, corrupted the proper functioning

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<v Speaker 5>of our governments. And it's really and it's denied the

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<v Speaker 5>American people, you know, the information that they've needed to

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<v Speaker 5>understand what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>And we live in the information age.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess this week or next Pete Hexsa's going

841
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<v Speaker 2>to take a chainsaw to much of the US military,

842
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.159
<v Speaker 2>which is full of fat and flab. And I think

843
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<v Speaker 2>you spend nine hundred billion dollars in the military, You

844
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<v Speaker 2>would have thought Republicans would hold the military sank or

845
00:48:57.480 --> 00:49:00.440
<v Speaker 2>sank as we do. But that does is does not

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<v Speaker 2>mean that we need seven hundred and fifty military bases

847
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<v Speaker 2>in one hundred and fifty different countries all over the world.

848
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<v Speaker 2>We don't need that. In other words, it needs to

849
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<v Speaker 2>be lethal, it doesn't need to need to be bureaucratic.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the points hech Seth is making.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, I mean, what a change we've gone from Lloyd

853
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.199
<v Speaker 5>Austin fat Lloyd Austin that couldn't even do a push

854
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.920
<v Speaker 5>up to Pete Hayfath, which is out there in the

855
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:34.440
<v Speaker 5>parking lot of the Pentagon going through disguise's I mean

856
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:37.760
<v Speaker 5>incredible change. And he's you know, he has the experience,

857
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:41.960
<v Speaker 5>frontline experience, many many years of serving on the front line.

858
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.760
<v Speaker 5>You couldn't ask for a better of secret fary of events.

859
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.440
<v Speaker 5>And he's really a wonderful man. I've met him personally.

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00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 5>He is he has all the qualities that are going

861
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:55.440
<v Speaker 5>to enable the military to really turn itself around.

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00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 6>Under his leadership. I think the military will be very strong.

863
00:49:59.119 --> 00:50:01.480
<v Speaker 2>What we now knew, our tax money has been looted,

864
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:05.079
<v Speaker 2>stolen and wasted. Politicians go in they make no more

865
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:07.760
<v Speaker 2>than one hundred and sixty thousand dollars a year, and

866
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 2>after spending half their money in taxes and half that

867
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 2>money and living in two different places. Nancy Pelosi comes

868
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 2>out with three hundred million dollars. Mitch McConnell, who's lost

869
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:20.400
<v Speaker 2>his way completely, is now worth a one hundred million dollars.

870
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.719
<v Speaker 2>You have all these individuals that are basically living in

871
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.639
<v Speaker 2>two expensive places coming out of public service with hundreds

872
00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 2>of millions of dollars. We've been looted, stolen, and wasted,

873
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 2>and the President's going to go after the irs. I

874
00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:36.639
<v Speaker 2>love the idea of the External Revenue Service to find

875
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.480
<v Speaker 2>out where the money is owed to us. All over

876
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 2>the world owes us money. But secondly, you have a

877
00:50:41.679 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 2>great interest in CCP, the Chinese Communist Party. Unlike the

878
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:50.159
<v Speaker 2>USSR of old, they were supposedly a great military power,

879
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:53.159
<v Speaker 2>but not an economic power. Why do you say, why

880
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:55.280
<v Speaker 2>do you belong to a committee to kind of constrain

881
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.960
<v Speaker 2>the Chinese Communist Party? Why are they the most dominant

882
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:00.440
<v Speaker 2>force ever to confront of America.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they have amped up the communist strategy way beyond

884
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:10.440
<v Speaker 5>what the what the Soviets had. You know, they believe

885
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:15.960
<v Speaker 5>in unrestricted warfare, and they have recognized and and of

886
00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:20.360
<v Speaker 5>course China has a heritage that goes back to the

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00:51:20.480 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 5>Sun Sue. I think he lived, I don't know, more

888
00:51:26.159 --> 00:51:29.320
<v Speaker 5>than two thousand years ago. Sun Su the military philosopher,

889
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:34.599
<v Speaker 5>said that the acme of military success is winning, you know,

890
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:38.679
<v Speaker 5>is winning the war, winning the battle without firing a shot.

891
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 5>So the Chinese have really mastered this sort of cultural

892
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 5>penetration and elite capture where they capture elites and they

893
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.320
<v Speaker 5>use you know, primarily its money. Of course, they have

894
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 5>a lot of dollars to throw around. They have an

895
00:51:55.239 --> 00:52:00.840
<v Speaker 5>annual budget of fifteen billion dollars. That is that that

896
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:08.280
<v Speaker 5>is used to target America and to carry out subversive activities.

897
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:12.519
<v Speaker 5>And many of these things are done sort of subliminally.

898
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:16.039
<v Speaker 5>People don't understand that the Chinese.

899
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<v Speaker 6>Are our mortal enemy.

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00:52:17.679 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 5>And you know, they've created these Confucian institutes on campuses

901
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.400
<v Speaker 5>across the country. They're more Chinese students in America than

902
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:29.920
<v Speaker 5>any other nation by a factor of three anyway, and

903
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:34.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, they they they're just masters at at at

904
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:39.039
<v Speaker 5>at the cultural revolution. Of course, we know that that's

905
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.280
<v Speaker 5>what Mao did, but they have refined it and perfected

906
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 5>it to such a point that Americans are are you know,

907
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 5>are don't they don't understand really what's what's what's going on?

908
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:54.960
<v Speaker 2>And Scott when you look at their malware. Christopher Ray,

909
00:52:56.039 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 2>the old director of the FBI, said about eight months

910
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 2>ago that they have malware and every critical American utility,

911
00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:07.719
<v Speaker 2>every phone system, every water system, and they test it

912
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:09.599
<v Speaker 2>out now and then to make sure it works and

913
00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 2>collapse systems. He made the point that if they have

914
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:16.519
<v Speaker 2>complete absolute war against US, we couldn't fly planes, we

915
00:53:16.519 --> 00:53:19.679
<v Speaker 2>couldn't land planes, we couldn't make telephone calls, we would

916
00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:22.760
<v Speaker 2>not have electricity, we would not have water, and within

917
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:25.920
<v Speaker 2>three days America would be in total chaos where there's

918
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:29.000
<v Speaker 2>no communication, and they can fly hot air balloons over

919
00:53:29.039 --> 00:53:31.119
<v Speaker 2>the top of the country. They can send tens of

920
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 2>thousands of students into our colleges and universities. They can

921
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 2>buy millions of acres of farmland around US military bases

922
00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.320
<v Speaker 2>and put malware all over the place so that we

923
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:44.440
<v Speaker 2>can't function. The average Americans got powered, doesn't understand the

924
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:47.280
<v Speaker 2>truth of what communists read China wants to do to us.

925
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:51.519
<v Speaker 2>Imagine a world without electricity, without sewer system, without water,

926
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:55.119
<v Speaker 2>without the ability to communicate. Imagine that world, and that's

927
00:53:55.119 --> 00:53:56.840
<v Speaker 2>what China's planned for us.

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00:53:57.719 --> 00:53:59.400
<v Speaker 5>It is true, it is true, and I think that

929
00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:03.840
<v Speaker 5>Trump understands this, and I think behind the scenes there's

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00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 5>going to be a de engineering on a lot of this.

931
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<v Speaker 5>And I would just I would love to see the

932
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:14.280
<v Speaker 5>new Secretary of Agriculture stand up and say, you know,

933
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.519
<v Speaker 5>we can't buy farmland in China. We're going to give

934
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 5>you your money back. We're taking back all the land

935
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.719
<v Speaker 5>that was sold to you. Would give you what you

936
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:26.239
<v Speaker 5>paid for it, but you've got to pack your bags

937
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:30.920
<v Speaker 5>and leave. You know, you're not welcome to have farmland

938
00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:31.639
<v Speaker 5>in America.

939
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 3>We need our farm land every year.

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00:54:34.239 --> 00:54:37.440
<v Speaker 2>It's about a trillion dollars of a trade surplus they

941
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:40.199
<v Speaker 2>get from America. And so they're crying like a stuck

942
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:42.679
<v Speaker 2>pig when America says we're going to use the same

943
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.440
<v Speaker 2>tariffs on you China that you use on our products.

944
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Same thing in the heartland of Germany, the heartland of Europe,

945
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:53.079
<v Speaker 2>the same You don't see forge and Chevyes on the

946
00:54:53.159 --> 00:54:55.960
<v Speaker 2>roads all over Germany, but you do see Volkswagens and

947
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:59.480
<v Speaker 2>BMW's and Mercedes here. And what's good for the goose

948
00:54:59.559 --> 00:55:01.280
<v Speaker 2>is good for the gander. And I think that makes

949
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:04.079
<v Speaker 2>perfect sense. Well, we got to run. Scott Powell, thanks

950
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.480
<v Speaker 2>for coming on. And President's Day is going to remain

951
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.000
<v Speaker 2>for a long time. And the fact that Donald Trump

952
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:11.960
<v Speaker 2>is our president now as a matter of celebration, not regret.

953
00:55:12.360 --> 00:55:14.559
<v Speaker 2>And Scott Powell, once again, thank you for coming on

954
00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:16.840
<v Speaker 2>the Bill Cunningham Show. And Scott you're a great American.

955
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you, Bill, thank you. Let's do it again.

956
00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's continue with more. Imagine hot air balloons flying over

957
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:25.880
<v Speaker 2>red China. I wonder if we have our ability to

958
00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.559
<v Speaker 2>do to them what they do to us. I strongly

959
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:31.719
<v Speaker 2>suspect that we do not, because we don't have tens

960
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:35.320
<v Speaker 2>of thousands of American students in their elite universities. That

961
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:39.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen, but the opposite does, and that's not a

962
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.159
<v Speaker 2>good thing. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham The Great

963
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:47.599
<v Speaker 2>American with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. I

964
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.280
<v Speaker 2>love hearing from Scott Powelly his perspective on things. I

965
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.760
<v Speaker 2>know the left was angry about President's Day last week

966
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:56.440
<v Speaker 2>because Donald Trump didn't deserve his own day.

967
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 3>And the drum beat is there right now.

968
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<v Speaker 2>Sixty minutes earlier tonight, Two of the three hit pieces

969
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 2>were against Donald Trump, that somehow the Department of Justice

970
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:07.559
<v Speaker 2>under Joe Biden and Barack Hussein Obama were paragons of

971
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>virtue only prosecuting crime, when what they did was turn

972
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:15.440
<v Speaker 2>a blind eye completely to democratic felonies like by Hillary Clinton,

973
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:18.480
<v Speaker 2>or by Joe Biden himself, or by Bill Clinton, etc.

974
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<v Speaker 2>And they went after Donald Trump to keep him out

975
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.599
<v Speaker 2>of office. What they fear that Donald Trump might do

976
00:56:24.280 --> 00:56:27.760
<v Speaker 2>is exactly what they've already done. On another point, to

977
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:31.079
<v Speaker 2>have Scott Powell on to talk about what's happening, as

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00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:36.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, in communist China, it is really unbelievable that

979
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:39.239
<v Speaker 2>we have had a policy of welcoming into this country

980
00:56:39.280 --> 00:56:42.800
<v Speaker 2>every Chinese export with little or no tariffs, when our

981
00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:46.039
<v Speaker 2>products can't be sold in Beijing, when their students are

982
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:49.360
<v Speaker 2>taught at our elite universities, and guess what the opposite

983
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:53.360
<v Speaker 2>is not true, when we can't buy their land, but

984
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:56.840
<v Speaker 2>they buy hours around military basis. And the most scary

985
00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:00.199
<v Speaker 2>thought is there have the capability of shutting down through

986
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:04.679
<v Speaker 2>malware our electrical grid, our cell phones, our sewer systems,

987
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.239
<v Speaker 2>our merchants, et cetera.

988
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Through the Internet. That is a serious serious problem.

989
00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Would you agree that I like to know whether or

990
00:57:13.960 --> 00:57:17.679
<v Speaker 2>not we have similar capabilities against the against the Red Chinese.

991
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:18.679
<v Speaker 3>I have my doubts.

992
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 2>So we finally have a president that will stand up

993
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:23.840
<v Speaker 2>to Jijiao Ping and say not on my watch. Let's

994
00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:26.679
<v Speaker 2>continue with more. Thanks for listening, continue to follow what's

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00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:28.400
<v Speaker 2>going to happen this week? Bill cunning in the Great

996
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>American with you and all of the great Americans.

997
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.440
<v Speaker 3>Guess what every Sunday.

998
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:45.559
<v Speaker 2>Night, Billy Cunning in the Great America.

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00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Let's continue now. I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the world renowned, world recognize experts on guns

1001
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and violence is John Lott. He spent many years in

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00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration in the first term, written many books

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<v Speaker 2>on the subject, and in addition of being a Great American,

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00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:04.760
<v Speaker 2>and he also runs crimeresearch dot org. And one thing

1005
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<v Speaker 2>we spoke briefly off the air about it. Things are

1006
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<v Speaker 2>now better than when we thought they would be, much

1007
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 2>better than we thought they would be after the first

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00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.039
<v Speaker 2>month of the Trump presidency. The FBI does not just

1009
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:19.280
<v Speaker 2>have a transparency problem, they're actually distorting data to secure

1010
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<v Speaker 2>important crime statistics. The truth will set us all free.

1011
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<v Speaker 2>And John Lott, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show,

1012
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and we just briefly off the air we discussed year

1013
00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:30.960
<v Speaker 2>years with the Department of Justice in the first Trump term,

1014
00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.480
<v Speaker 2>for which he wasn't really prepared to govern in a

1015
00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:37.079
<v Speaker 2>sense because he relied upon others for key positions. I

1016
00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.440
<v Speaker 2>think he was shocked when he won, and this time

1017
00:58:39.480 --> 00:58:41.199
<v Speaker 2>he's not shocked at all. And in fact, in an

1018
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<v Speaker 2>odd way, the last four years putting him through hell,

1019
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:48.719
<v Speaker 2>what was even hardening his resolve to get things done

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00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:51.400
<v Speaker 2>but relate to the American people. What you told me

1021
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:53.599
<v Speaker 2>off the air about the leadership of DOJ and the

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00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 2>leadership of the Department of Education and the first Trump

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<v Speaker 2>term and how it's so much better today, right, Well.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean.

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<v Speaker 9>Trump relied on people, you know, other Republicans like the Bushes,

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<v Speaker 9>to go and help staff parts of the government.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, if you have somebody who's.

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<v Speaker 9>A governor who ends up being president, they're going to

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<v Speaker 9>take you know, like the California Mafia or the Georgia

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<v Speaker 9>mafia that they have there, you know, people that they've

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<v Speaker 9>been working with that they've kind of seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>actually operate government. Trump didn't have that. He had a

1033
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<v Speaker 9>very small campaign staff in twenty sixteen, he didn't have,

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<v Speaker 9>so he relied on them, and it turned out to

1035
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<v Speaker 9>be a mistake because the people that the Bushes suggested,

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<v Speaker 9>George W. Bush for the Department of Justice and Jeb

1037
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.440
<v Speaker 9>Bush for the Department of Education, hated Trump. I mean

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<v Speaker 9>I personally ran into people in the Department of Justice

1039
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<v Speaker 9>who were political pointings. I mean it was bad enough

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<v Speaker 9>you have to deal with the civil service that just

1041
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:03.559
<v Speaker 9>hates publicans, but Trump had to deal with all these

1042
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<v Speaker 9>political point pointies who just hated him and would do

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<v Speaker 9>whatever they could to make his life difficult. It's amazing,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, he could even accomplish half of what he did,

1045
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.840
<v Speaker 9>but he obviously accomplished was more. But this time he's

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01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:18.880
<v Speaker 9>learned his lesson and the quality of people that he's

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<v Speaker 9>put in there is much higher. And that makes a

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<v Speaker 9>huge difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, because he can only do so much, and

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01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:27.239
<v Speaker 2>it's the first time he was shocked that he won,

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01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:30.800
<v Speaker 2>so he relied upon the Bush He's a serious mistake

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01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:33.639
<v Speaker 2>to staff the Department of Justice. I can rot it

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01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:36.039
<v Speaker 2>off some of the names who running the FBI, etc.

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01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 2>The Department of Education, it was all Bushy's either Jeb

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01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Bush or Bush forty one Bush forty three that told

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<v Speaker 2>him that this guy'd be good, Rod, that that guy'd

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01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:46.719
<v Speaker 2>be good in a way. You go, and he never

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01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:49.400
<v Speaker 2>and then immediately he's impeached as soon as he gets

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01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:52.480
<v Speaker 2>into office. Even now he's only been in office a month,

1060
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.719
<v Speaker 2>our Democrats are still talking about impeachment. But let's get

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01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 2>onto the substance of your story, which is at the Federalist.

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01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.960
<v Speaker 2>It's a great read, and it talks about the headline

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01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:05.840
<v Speaker 2>is Trump's FBI reforms need to include ending its data

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01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:07.360
<v Speaker 2>distortions on crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Please explain.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people kind

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<v Speaker 9>of understand the political biases in the Department of Justice

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01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:20.000
<v Speaker 9>and the FBI, as well as other agencies that are there.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, in the FBI you have things like going

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01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:28.079
<v Speaker 9>after Catholics, or going after people who attended school board meetings,

1071
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:32.039
<v Speaker 9>or you have, you know, spying on a presidential campaign

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01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:37.199
<v Speaker 9>for the opposing party in twenty sixteen. You know, you

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01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:41.079
<v Speaker 9>have lots of political biases there that have to.

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<v Speaker 8>Be dealt with.

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<v Speaker 9>But what hasn't really been talked about by the political

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01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:48.400
<v Speaker 9>biases involved in just the data. You let people on

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01:01:48.480 --> 01:01:51.880
<v Speaker 9>the left control the data that gets put out. You

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01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:56.119
<v Speaker 9>allow them to control the political debate. And we saw

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01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:59.440
<v Speaker 9>this during the presidential campaign this last year. You know,

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<v Speaker 9>one of the headlines that we saw over and over

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01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.119
<v Speaker 9>again for the media was that crime is down, but

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01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 9>people mistakenly think that it was increasing. And a lot

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01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:12.000
<v Speaker 9>of that was based on the data for twenty twenty

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01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:16.599
<v Speaker 9>two that had come out, came out in October twenty

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01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:19.559
<v Speaker 9>twenty three, and so for a year we had headlines

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01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:24.239
<v Speaker 9>on that. The problem was that this past September, when

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01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:27.079
<v Speaker 9>the FBI put out it's data for twenty twenty three,

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01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:31.800
<v Speaker 9>it secretly quietly changed the data for twenty twenty two,

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01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:34.039
<v Speaker 9>no mention of it in the press release that.

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01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 8>They put out.

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<v Speaker 9>If you read the report that came out in the fall,

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01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:41.639
<v Speaker 9>all it said was we've in a footnote one sentence

1093
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:44.880
<v Speaker 9>said we've updated the data for twenty twenty two. But

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01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:47.360
<v Speaker 9>what they had done was originally they said it had

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01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 9>fallen by two point one percent, and now with the revision,

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01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:55.320
<v Speaker 9>it had gone up by four point five percent.

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01:02:55.760 --> 01:02:57.199
<v Speaker 8>That's a pretty big swing.

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<v Speaker 9>And you would think given all the media coverage, you know,

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01:03:00.599 --> 01:03:04.559
<v Speaker 9>David Muir in the presidential debate where he was quote,

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01:03:04.599 --> 01:03:08.639
<v Speaker 9>you know, fact checking the president there on that he

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01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:11.480
<v Speaker 9>was relying. The only final data that was out at

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01:03:11.480 --> 01:03:14.760
<v Speaker 9>that point was the data for twenty twenty two, and

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01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:19.159
<v Speaker 9>you know, it turns out that it was wrong. But

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01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:24.239
<v Speaker 9>the FBI didn't, you know, acknowledge that they had changed it,

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01:03:24.280 --> 01:03:27.079
<v Speaker 9>didn't explain why that they had changed it.

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01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:28.599
<v Speaker 8>And even once it kind.

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01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:31.760
<v Speaker 9>Of became viral that they had made this change, and

1108
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:33.280
<v Speaker 9>the mediate news media.

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01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:34.880
<v Speaker 8>Organizations would reach out.

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01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:38.079
<v Speaker 9>To the FBI before the election to try to, you know,

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01:03:38.159 --> 01:03:41.199
<v Speaker 9>get them to make a definitive statement themselves on it.

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01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:43.719
<v Speaker 9>They refused to do so. The only thing that they

1113
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:46.760
<v Speaker 9>would say is we stand by our data and just

1114
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:50.400
<v Speaker 9>leave it vague and not explain the change or even

1115
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:53.400
<v Speaker 9>officially acknowledged that it had gone from a drop to

1116
01:03:53.440 --> 01:03:54.079
<v Speaker 9>an increase.

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01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:57.440
<v Speaker 8>But you know, it's just one of many things they.

1118
01:03:57.360 --> 01:03:59.119
<v Speaker 9>Put out reports all the time. And it's not just

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01:03:59.239 --> 01:04:02.639
<v Speaker 9>the Department of that's the FBI. You have issues with

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01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:05.159
<v Speaker 9>the Bureau of Justice Statistics, you have issues with the

1121
01:04:05.199 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 9>Senates for Disease Control, and you know, Cash Petel is

1122
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.599
<v Speaker 9>going to have a huge job there at the FBI.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I read according to other outlets, there was more

1124
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:22.800
<v Speaker 2>than five hundred times five hundred times, the mainstream media

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01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:24.800
<v Speaker 2>and the two months running up to the election that

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01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.639
<v Speaker 2>said crime is down. In fact, you you excerpted in

1127
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 2>your column at the Federalists from NPR, which surely has

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01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:35.679
<v Speaker 2>to be defunded. Quote this is NPR that we're paying

1129
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:38.960
<v Speaker 2>five hundred million dollars to get factual information from. Quote

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01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:41.960
<v Speaker 2>violent crime is dropping fast in the US, even if

1131
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Americans don't believe it. And then you have that back

1132
01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.400
<v Speaker 2>and forth with David Mure when President Trump during the

1133
01:04:47.400 --> 01:04:50.800
<v Speaker 2>presidential campaign said quote crime here is up and through

1134
01:04:50.840 --> 01:04:54.360
<v Speaker 2>the roof, despite fraudulent statements that they made. Then David Muir,

1135
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:57.280
<v Speaker 2>who's that face, the voice of ABC News, said, quote,

1136
01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:01.719
<v Speaker 2>mister President, you know the FBI says overall violent crime

1137
01:05:01.800 --> 01:05:04.800
<v Speaker 2>is actually coming down in this country quote unquote. Then

1138
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:07.360
<v Speaker 2>let's move on. And so they threw into the middle

1139
01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 2>of the body politic poison, acidic water based upon false,

1140
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.320
<v Speaker 2>fraudulent data that the FBI, Christopher Ray knew it was

1141
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:18.599
<v Speaker 2>false when he put it out, failed to correct it

1142
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:21.760
<v Speaker 2>for political purposes. And that's one of the examples of

1143
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the political politicalization of the FBI, because they would report

1144
01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:29.559
<v Speaker 2>only information that was good for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,

1145
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:32.440
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's illustrative. And then you go on

1146
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:36.000
<v Speaker 2>to talk to statistics and the facts, and so I

1147
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.920
<v Speaker 2>guess it's a pejorative question. But when you hear five

1148
01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.519
<v Speaker 2>hundred times and then during the Great Debate with David

1149
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Muir the crime is down, crime is down, do you

1150
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:47.840
<v Speaker 2>think some Americans took that in as factually accurate and

1151
01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:50.440
<v Speaker 2>voted based thereon and voted for Kamala Harris.

1152
01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:54.320
<v Speaker 8>I have no doubt that that was the case.

1153
01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:58.880
<v Speaker 9>I mean, there was presumably a reason that the Democrats

1154
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:01.360
<v Speaker 9>and the media kept on pushing this claim.

1155
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:02.599
<v Speaker 8>But look, you know.

1156
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:05.000
<v Speaker 9>It's even worse than that, because there are two measures

1157
01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:07.719
<v Speaker 9>that the Department of Justice has on crime. One is

1158
01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:11.800
<v Speaker 9>the FBI data on crimes report to police. But we

1159
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.519
<v Speaker 9>know most crimes aren't report to police. Only about forty

1160
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:19.079
<v Speaker 9>percent of violent crimes and only about thirty percent of property.

1161
01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:19.679
<v Speaker 8>Crimes are reported.

1162
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:23.079
<v Speaker 9>And so over fifty years ago, the Department of Justice

1163
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:27.840
<v Speaker 9>set up something called the National Crime Victimization Survey by

1164
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:31.400
<v Speaker 9>the Bureau of Justice Statistics, which gets a measure of

1165
01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:35.400
<v Speaker 9>total crime from this truly massive two hundred and forty

1166
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:36.880
<v Speaker 9>thousand person.

1167
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:38.039
<v Speaker 8>Survey that they do each year.

1168
01:06:38.639 --> 01:06:42.800
<v Speaker 9>And what you find is that during the Biden administration,

1169
01:06:42.960 --> 01:06:46.679
<v Speaker 9>we had the largest percentage increase over the three years

1170
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:50.039
<v Speaker 9>that the data's out for that we've ever seen during

1171
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:52.320
<v Speaker 9>the fifty years that they've been putting the stay together.

1172
01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:57.320
<v Speaker 9>During there's been a fifty four percent increase in violent

1173
01:06:57.440 --> 01:06:59.960
<v Speaker 9>crime during the first three years of the Biden ministry,

1174
01:07:02.679 --> 01:07:06.280
<v Speaker 9>forty three percent increase in rates, a sixty three percent

1175
01:07:06.360 --> 01:07:12.280
<v Speaker 9>increase and robberies, and a four percent increase in egg

1176
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:16.000
<v Speaker 9>beata assaults. That's more than twice as large as the

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01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:20.320
<v Speaker 9>next previous increase over the previous fifty years. But the

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01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:22.920
<v Speaker 9>media just ignored that, even though if you're going to

1179
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:25.679
<v Speaker 9>ask people, would you rather get a measure of total

1180
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:28.519
<v Speaker 9>crime or would you rather get a measure of crimes

1181
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:32.239
<v Speaker 9>who poured to police? There are lots of reasons, and

1182
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.440
<v Speaker 9>you and I talked about it before about why not

1183
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:38.000
<v Speaker 9>all crimes are report to police and why that can

1184
01:07:38.079 --> 01:07:41.599
<v Speaker 9>change over time. But the media not only did they

1185
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.920
<v Speaker 9>fixate on numbers that turned out to be wrong from

1186
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.920
<v Speaker 9>the FBI, but they ignored other data that would have

1187
01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:50.719
<v Speaker 9>shown a very different story there.

1188
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Why what what's the motivation to lie to the American people,

1189
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:58.000
<v Speaker 2>And I would assume that David Mures and others knew

1190
01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:59.719
<v Speaker 2>they were lying when they did it, or did they

1191
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:02.440
<v Speaker 2>not know and simply not look below the covers to

1192
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:06.119
<v Speaker 2>find what's underneath. Because arrest may be down, but crime

1193
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:10.199
<v Speaker 2>itself is way up when seventy percent of property crimes

1194
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:13.159
<v Speaker 2>are not reported to the police. Who can't arrest someone

1195
01:08:13.199 --> 01:08:15.400
<v Speaker 2>with a non report unless the crime is committed in

1196
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:18.600
<v Speaker 2>some officer's presence, which is quite unusual. So what's the

1197
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:21.600
<v Speaker 2>motivation of the media to lie, especially in pr.

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01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:24.840
<v Speaker 9>Look, I mean, I can't get into people's minds on this.

1199
01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:27.640
<v Speaker 9>What I can say is I had an opt ed

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01:08:27.760 --> 01:08:31.600
<v Speaker 9>in the Wall Street Journal in April. You would think,

1201
01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:34.840
<v Speaker 9>you know, that would have at least alerted. I mean,

1202
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:37.399
<v Speaker 9>that's the biggest newspaper in the country. You would think

1203
01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:41.159
<v Speaker 9>that at least some people would have noticed that discussion

1204
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:41.920
<v Speaker 9>at that time.

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01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:45.319
<v Speaker 2>And another point in your column in the Federalist dot

1206
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Com John Lott is that the FBI isn't the only

1207
01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:51.720
<v Speaker 2>agency that hides or dissorts data for political purposes. The

1208
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:55.399
<v Speaker 2>Centers for Disease Control under Joe Biden suppressed that of

1209
01:08:55.560 --> 01:08:59.279
<v Speaker 2>proving that armed citizens help Prevent Crime by removing its

1210
01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:02.319
<v Speaker 2>estimates that the defensive gun uses from its website because

1211
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I can only assume it didn't fit the media die tribe,

1212
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:07.680
<v Speaker 2>and I would think the Centers for Disease Control would

1213
01:09:07.720 --> 01:09:10.520
<v Speaker 2>have little or nothing to do with defensive gun use,

1214
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:15.720
<v Speaker 2>but the federal government indicates that they do. And you

1215
01:09:15.880 --> 01:09:19.319
<v Speaker 2>reference the fact that the National Academies of Science reported

1216
01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:24.000
<v Speaker 2>in twenty thirteen, which was less violent time in our history,

1217
01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:28.640
<v Speaker 2>that people use guns to stop crime anywhere between sixty

1218
01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:32.479
<v Speaker 2>four thousand to three million times a year. Is there

1219
01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:35.640
<v Speaker 2>something more current than the twenty thirteen estimate. We're twelve

1220
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.840
<v Speaker 2>years later, and what evidence is there that those armed

1221
01:09:38.840 --> 01:09:42.079
<v Speaker 2>citizens actually stopped crime? Right?

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01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:45.279
<v Speaker 9>Well, either are a couple of things in there. One

1223
01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:48.479
<v Speaker 9>is the reason why the Centers for Disease Control removed

1224
01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:52.119
<v Speaker 9>it from their website is because different gun control groups

1225
01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:57.199
<v Speaker 9>during the Biden administration essentially lobbied and talked to the

1226
01:09:57.239 --> 01:09:59.600
<v Speaker 9>Centers for Disease Control it to be hess to the

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01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:00.520
<v Speaker 9>Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 8>And I quote one.

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01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:06.680
<v Speaker 9>Of them there, the Gun Violence Archive, which is a

1230
01:10:06.720 --> 01:10:09.439
<v Speaker 9>well known gun control group that the media uses.

1231
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:09.800
<v Speaker 8>All the time.

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01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:13.279
<v Speaker 9>They were saying that, well, if you put that out

1233
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:16.159
<v Speaker 9>on your website. It's been making it more difficult for

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01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:18.600
<v Speaker 9>us to push for the types of gun control laws

1235
01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:21.680
<v Speaker 9>that we want. Is if somehow that's a legitimate thing

1236
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.279
<v Speaker 9>that the Centers for disease control should be considering and

1237
01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:28.560
<v Speaker 9>determining whether or not information is put out there or not.

1238
01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:33.039
<v Speaker 9>But yeah, there is more recent information on this.

1239
01:10:34.600 --> 01:10:34.920
<v Speaker 7>You have.

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<v Speaker 9>For example, there was a study put out in twenty

1241
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:41.279
<v Speaker 9>twenty one that indicate there was about one point six

1242
01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:45.600
<v Speaker 9>million defensive gun uses that occurred. You have to understand

1243
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.520
<v Speaker 9>the reason for the large range is that you have

1244
01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:54.399
<v Speaker 9>government data from the Bureau of Justice assystems, which basically

1245
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.319
<v Speaker 9>puts it in the range of about one hundred thousand,

1246
01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:01.520
<v Speaker 9>and then you have other academic surveys that put it

1247
01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:03.960
<v Speaker 9>much higher. And the reason is very simple, and that

1248
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:08.439
<v Speaker 9>is what's the three screening question that's used. And and

1249
01:11:08.479 --> 01:11:11.520
<v Speaker 9>the Bureau of Justice statistics what they say it they

1250
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.359
<v Speaker 9>ask you, have you been a victim of crime? And

1251
01:11:15.520 --> 01:11:18.119
<v Speaker 9>the problem is is that a lot of people who

1252
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:22.920
<v Speaker 9>maybe use the gun defensively stop the crime before it occurred,

1253
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.560
<v Speaker 9>so they may not view themselves as having become a victim.

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<v Speaker 9>And if they say they were not a victim. Then

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<v Speaker 9>they don't ask any more questions than the survey there.

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<v Speaker 9>The academic surveys will ask things like, you know, have

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<v Speaker 9>you been threatened with violence with somebody that you have

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<v Speaker 9>been been threatened with violence? And that's and when you

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<v Speaker 9>ask that type of question, you get a much higher

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<v Speaker 9>rate of people that you then go and ask whether

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<v Speaker 9>you know how they behave, what the criminal did, and

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<v Speaker 9>and other things that go on there, and you get

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<v Speaker 9>it much. You get an estimate that's usually average around

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<v Speaker 9>two million a counch of gun news is the year, and.

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<v Speaker 3>So the long and the short is we look forward.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only been about a month, but we look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to crime data coming out of the FBI and the

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<v Speaker 2>Centers for Disease Control that are actually accurate and actually

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<v Speaker 2>reflect reality, not for political purposes one way or another.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a rest are down, but I think crime

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<v Speaker 2>is way up. Liberal prosecutors in many blue cities and

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<v Speaker 2>blue states don't want to prosecute crimes because it looks bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I live in the little city of Cincinnati, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>being told repeatedly that crime is down in the city

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<v Speaker 2>of Cincinnati, but I don't believe it. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>rest are down. We have a lot of liberal judges

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<v Speaker 2>here like in major American cities, and those liberal judges

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<v Speaker 2>do not hold people accountable. In fact, to get out

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<v Speaker 2>on bond on a serious, serious felony is not that

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<v Speaker 2>big a deal. Ten years ago you couldn't get out.

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<v Speaker 2>It was good time that you would have applied. It's

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<v Speaker 2>your sentence. But that's completely different. Well, John Lotte, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to run once again. We began by talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how Bush was sandbagged and his first four years, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think, in an odd way, the hell that he

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<v Speaker 2>went through the last four years harden him in the

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<v Speaker 2>steel to make sure the next four years are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be significantly better, significantly different than the first four

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<v Speaker 2>years of the of the term, because when you put

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<v Speaker 2>Bush people in charge of the Department of Justice and

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Education, that's not a good situation. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he knows what he's doing, got great people involved, cash,

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<v Speaker 2>PTTEL is going to do great work with the FBI,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. And once again it's Crimeresearch Dot Org. I

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<v Speaker 2>have it up right now. Many columns are up about

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<v Speaker 2>concealed carry permit holders and defensive uses things of that character,

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<v Speaker 2>and someone listening needs the actual facts on this it's

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<v Speaker 2>crimeresearch dot org and John Lott. We have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. I think things are getting better. And

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<v Speaker 2>once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,

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<v Speaker 2>and my friend will do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you Bill. You make a big difference, so do you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you John. All right, let's continue with more.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, he spent years in the Trump administration and

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<v Speaker 2>now he's out doing research of things in that character

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<v Speaker 2>about concealed handgun permit holders and the value they have

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<v Speaker 2>the law enforcement. Let's continue with more. Bill cunning Him

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<v Speaker 2>the Great American with you and all other great Americans

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<v Speaker 2>every Sunday Night by Bully cunning Him the Great American

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<v Speaker 2>and the good to hear from John on. You know one

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<v Speaker 2>thing he just pointed out. This guy's got crimeresearch dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's an academician, he's a scholar, he's an author.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows where the bodies are buried. How about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that in America today, seventy percent of property crimes

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<v Speaker 2>are not reported to the police because the victim doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel as if it makes any difference to whether I

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<v Speaker 2>report the thing or not. Nothing's going to happen how's

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01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:47.319
<v Speaker 2>that possible? If your car is broken into, if something

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<v Speaker 2>is stolen for a person's stolen in them all, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe at a Publix or a Kroger or whatever, shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you have the confidence, Okay, I'm going to call the police.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to file a police report, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to see what happened. But if we have so little

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<v Speaker 2>confidence and prosecutions of wrongdoors, why call the police in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place. The only crime that really can say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what happened here was a murder or a suicide.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you got a body and rape victims. You

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01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:13.600
<v Speaker 2>know there was a rape take place. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about so many property crimes, we don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell happened because we have no confidence, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>blue cities and blue states like in Chicago or Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles or New York City.

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<v Speaker 3>Why in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you ever call the police in a property crime

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<v Speaker 2>when you know a CoP's not likely to arrive, or secondly,

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<v Speaker 2>when they do come, the person who did that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be out of jail before the paperwork is done.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's continue with more up next to Steve gorm about

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<v Speaker 2>what Christopher wright Department of Energy is going to do

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<v Speaker 2>and more because I think there's a new sheriff.

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<v Speaker 3>In town and his name is Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank God, because there's a metamorphosis happening green energy right

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<v Speaker 2>now and it's its destruction. Goll Cunningham, the Great American

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<v Speaker 2>with you and all of the Great Americans every Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Willie the Love You.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best,

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<v Speaker 1>the recipient of not one, but two prestigious Marconi Awards

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<v Speaker 1>for his broadcast excellence, The One and Only Bill Cunningham.

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<v Speaker 2>By Billy cunning and the Great America. Of course, Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Gorm's an expert on the environment. In the climate, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a public speaker and executive director of the Climate Science Coalition,

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<v Speaker 2>advisor to the Heartland Institute, written many books on the

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<v Speaker 2>subject matter, including The Green Breakdown, The Green Breakdown, The

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<v Speaker 2>Coming Renewable Energy Failure, and Steve Gorm welcome again to

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<v Speaker 2>the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, I would

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<v Speaker 2>note I wanted to maybe to tell the American people

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<v Speaker 2>what are the Trump energy policies now, which fundamentally you've

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<v Speaker 2>advocated for a long time. But tell the American people,

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<v Speaker 2>in case they're not paying close attention, what are the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump energy policies?

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<v Speaker 3>As I speak?

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Bill, great to join you again. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>The President Trump's administration in the first month has basically

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<v Speaker 10>dropped a bomb on green energy. It really is remarkable

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<v Speaker 10>what's going on. Four big areas, and these were done

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<v Speaker 10>with executive orders, but he's trying to follow these up

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<v Speaker 10>with congressional action. The first is he has canceled all

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<v Speaker 10>offshore wind turbine licenses. The federal government owns all the

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<v Speaker 10>land between three miles and two miles off shore, and

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<v Speaker 10>if you want to put up a wind turbine, you

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<v Speaker 10>have to get a license, and mister Trump has now

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<v Speaker 10>stopped issuing those. And he's also instructed the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 10>the Interior, Doug Burgham, to review any licenses that have

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<v Speaker 10>been granted. And so we had a big, big changes

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<v Speaker 10>right off the bat. For example, Denmark Orsted, a big

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<v Speaker 10>supplier of wind turbines, stock price dropped seventeen percent right

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<v Speaker 10>after the executive order. It took a one point seven

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<v Speaker 10>billion dollar charge. We've seen a bunch of other firms

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<v Speaker 10>that the stock price has gone down and they've had

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<v Speaker 10>charges as well. The second big area is that is

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<v Speaker 10>rolling back of electric vehicle incentives. And he used an

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<v Speaker 10>executive called Unleashing American Energy, which basically says, I'm going

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<v Speaker 10>to get rid of all the incentives for evs and

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<v Speaker 10>that includes the tax credits. And we're already seeing some

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<v Speaker 10>of this in the markets. The a lot of dealers

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<v Speaker 10>are saying, well, they're not going to issue the tax credits.

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<v Speaker 10>Congress is trying to pass as something that will remove it.

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<v Speaker 10>This was in the Inflation Reduction Act. And then he's

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<v Speaker 10>also doing a bunch of other things about getting rid

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<v Speaker 10>of subsidies and favorable for electric vehicles. And it was

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<v Speaker 10>just announced the General Services Administration GSA is going to

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<v Speaker 10>shut down eight thousand EV chargers nationwide. They, by the way,

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<v Speaker 10>nobody is making money with EV chargers and not a

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<v Speaker 10>single firm that can break even an EV charger, and

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<v Speaker 10>so without all these subsidies, we wouldn't have all these things,

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<v Speaker 10>and the federal government's going to start shutting these down.

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<v Speaker 10>The third big area is the cuts to renewable funding,

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<v Speaker 10>and those are coming from all sorts of grants from

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<v Speaker 10>the EPA, and also was also in the Inflation Reduction Act.

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<v Speaker 10>They're trying to get rid of all those, so that's

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<v Speaker 10>another big deal. And then the last big area is

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<v Speaker 10>he has really made big changes to climate policy already

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<v Speaker 10>and one executiveority was putting America first in the international

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<v Speaker 10>environmental agreements. So he is withdrawing from the Paris Climate

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<v Speaker 10>of Courts, He's terminating the Green New Deal, which representive

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<v Speaker 10>Pacossium Courts has talked about quite a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 10>And then he's also even instructed Lee Zelden, our new

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<v Speaker 10>head of the EPA, to look at the Endangerment finding

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<v Speaker 10>of two thousand and nine, in which the EPA December seven,

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<v Speaker 10>two thousand and nine, a day that will live in infamy.

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<v Speaker 10>The EPA declared carbon dioxide I said it endangers of

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<v Speaker 10>the health and welfare of current and future generation. So wow,

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<v Speaker 10>those are all really really big effects. And oh, by

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<v Speaker 10>the way, there's a whole bunch of climate departments and

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<v Speaker 10>they are just canceling those throughout the government right now.

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<v Speaker 10>All these things that were set up to work with

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<v Speaker 10>the client on the climates he's getting rid of them,

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<v Speaker 10>so just massive changes, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Steve Gorm I'm not in favor of EV's, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not against them. I think it's a matter of choice.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want, knowing everything you know about EV's, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to buy a Tesla or buy a Ford

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<v Speaker 2>EV as an American, have at it. It might make

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<v Speaker 2>sense if you're in an urban area. It's second or

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<v Speaker 2>third car, it's expensive, hard to repair, it's insurance rates

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<v Speaker 2>are higher. But if you look at all that and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to make some political or cultural statement, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to buy an EV, that's fine, but damn it,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to subsidize it. To give you an example,

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<v Speaker 2>about two or three weeks ago, run the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>middle end of January, Ford Motor Company guy's name is

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<v Speaker 2>James Farley, the CEO announced that they lost in the

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<v Speaker 2>year twenty twenty four five point two billion dollars on

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<v Speaker 2>their EV production and made about five point six billion

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<v Speaker 2>on gasoline powered cars, so it was more or less

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<v Speaker 2>an offset, and he said in twenty twenty five, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to lose more money than that. He had to

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<v Speaker 2>warn the market that they geared up for this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and that dog won't hunt. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>Nicola and Assar Rivian, which are explained, what's happening with

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<v Speaker 2>government subsidies money right down the tubes like Celindra, right

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<v Speaker 2>down the tubes. What's happening to those two companies.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, so we've got you know, we have a whole

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<v Speaker 10>industries that are that live on government money. Now, these

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<v Speaker 10>are EV charging companies. A lot of the evs with

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<v Speaker 10>the text credits green hydrogen, carbon dioxide, pipelines.

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<v Speaker 8>Wind solar, all of these things.

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<v Speaker 10>But nevertheless, so as I think we've discussed before, a

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<v Speaker 10>green equipment companies are very very poor investments. An example

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<v Speaker 10>is Nicola, which is electric truck manufacturer. They filed for

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<v Speaker 10>bankruptcy last week. They had been valued when they did

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<v Speaker 10>an initial public offering at thirty billion dollars and they've

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<v Speaker 10>never made any money. And another one is a company

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01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:29.520
<v Speaker 10>called Rivian Automotive, and in December, the biot And Administration

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01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:33.039
<v Speaker 10>approved a six point six billion dollar loan to Rivian

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01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:37.720
<v Speaker 10>to build a plant in Georgia. Just you know, talk

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01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:39.920
<v Speaker 10>if you think Solendra was a big issue, this is

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01:23:39.960 --> 01:23:41.279
<v Speaker 10>about ten times as big.

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01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:43.279
<v Speaker 9>Rivian has never.

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01:23:43.079 --> 01:23:45.800
<v Speaker 10>Made any money. Last year, I think they had a

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01:23:45.920 --> 01:23:50.319
<v Speaker 10>revenue of four hundred million and had losses of about

1467
01:23:50.319 --> 01:23:54.199
<v Speaker 10>four hundred million. I mean, it's just and we're just

1468
01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:56.680
<v Speaker 10>going to have an endless round of bankruptcies here with

1469
01:23:56.720 --> 01:23:59.960
<v Speaker 10>all of these firms. Another one is plug Power. Plug

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01:24:00.079 --> 01:24:03.600
<v Speaker 10>Power to a company that produces hydrogen or green hydrogen.

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01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.560
<v Speaker 10>They were founded about nineteen ninety eight. They have never

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01:24:06.600 --> 01:24:10.199
<v Speaker 10>made a profit in twenty seven years, and they just

1473
01:24:10.279 --> 01:24:13.760
<v Speaker 10>keep getting money from states and federals and other You know,

1474
01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:17.720
<v Speaker 10>we have just all these industries that are just living

1475
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.560
<v Speaker 10>on all this federal money, and mister Trump is putting

1476
01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:21.439
<v Speaker 10>a stop to all of this.

1477
01:24:22.920 --> 01:24:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Any idea, can you, Steve Goren put a number on

1478
01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the green energy breakdown? What's happened in this country? And

1479
01:24:31.960 --> 01:24:34.359
<v Speaker 2>I think communist Red China is involved in this too,

1480
01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:37.600
<v Speaker 2>because they sold us ninety five percent of our solar panels.

1481
01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:40.319
<v Speaker 2>And I saw in Arizona so many of the solar

1482
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:43.359
<v Speaker 2>panels that was one hundred acres of solar panels that

1483
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:47.680
<v Speaker 2>were pitted because of a terrible storm that came and

1484
01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:52.439
<v Speaker 2>that it blew them out. And somehow it's unbelievable how

1485
01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:55.239
<v Speaker 2>much money, any idea, how much this boondoggle has cost

1486
01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:58.640
<v Speaker 2>not the investors. If you wanted to invest in Nicola

1487
01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:01.720
<v Speaker 2>or Rivion or or a plug Power, if you want

1488
01:25:01.760 --> 01:25:05.039
<v Speaker 2>to invest in companies to build eight thousand EV power

1489
01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:08.279
<v Speaker 2>stations around America that I think about ten, we're not ten,

1490
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.520
<v Speaker 2>about ten we're ever built. Have added your money. But

1491
01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:13.720
<v Speaker 2>how much public money are we talking about over the

1492
01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:16.520
<v Speaker 2>last ten to fifteen years beginning with Obama.

1493
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:20.600
<v Speaker 10>Well a lot Globally it's about about two trillion dollars

1494
01:25:20.680 --> 01:25:25.359
<v Speaker 10>last year was spent unrenewables, and it's been it's been very,

1495
01:25:25.479 --> 01:25:27.560
<v Speaker 10>very big, and over the last ten years have been

1496
01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:33.680
<v Speaker 10>about six or seven trillion unrenewables. We still get eighty

1497
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:36.520
<v Speaker 10>percent of our energy from coal, oil, and natural gas,

1498
01:25:37.560 --> 01:25:40.079
<v Speaker 10>so it's really not having much of an impact globally.

1499
01:25:41.640 --> 01:25:44.840
<v Speaker 10>And again, the subsidies are just massive now. They're running

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01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:47.720
<v Speaker 10>about under Biden. The last year, I think they got

1501
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:51.119
<v Speaker 10>up to eighty billion dollars in subsidies in terms of

1502
01:25:51.159 --> 01:25:58.199
<v Speaker 10>tax breaks, tax credits, other things. And so we have

1503
01:25:58.279 --> 01:26:00.960
<v Speaker 10>all these companies that are just are just living on this,

1504
01:26:01.039 --> 01:26:02.920
<v Speaker 10>and we're going to have this is a lot of

1505
01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:07.399
<v Speaker 10>this is going to just crash here. And I would

1506
01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 10>advise people that this green breakdown is coming, as I

1507
01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:13.000
<v Speaker 10>said in my book The Coming Renewable Energy Failure, which

1508
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:16.000
<v Speaker 10>came out last year, and we're starting to see it.

1509
01:26:16.079 --> 01:26:17.880
<v Speaker 10>This is going to take a long long time because

1510
01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:21.199
<v Speaker 10>much of the world is invested in this energy transition.

1511
01:26:22.279 --> 01:26:25.680
<v Speaker 10>But all green energy really means is higher energy prices.

1512
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:29.479
<v Speaker 10>It means electricity blackouts, means less freedom because they're trying

1513
01:26:29.479 --> 01:26:32.199
<v Speaker 10>to force people to buy electric cars and get rid

1514
01:26:32.239 --> 01:26:35.960
<v Speaker 10>of their gas stoves. It means energy shocks across the

1515
01:26:36.000 --> 01:26:38.399
<v Speaker 10>world like we saw in Europe, and it isn't going

1516
01:26:38.439 --> 01:26:41.319
<v Speaker 10>to have a measurable effect on global temperatures. There's no

1517
01:26:41.399 --> 01:26:44.720
<v Speaker 10>evidence that that is going to occur, So we're going

1518
01:26:44.760 --> 01:26:46.439
<v Speaker 10>to have a mixed future. I think evs are going

1519
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:48.279
<v Speaker 10>to get better and better over time, but they're a

1520
01:26:48.319 --> 01:26:52.039
<v Speaker 10>long long way from becoming our main source of transportation.

1521
01:26:52.920 --> 01:26:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Had a guest on a few weeks ago that talked

1522
01:26:54.680 --> 01:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>about in nineteen ninety we were told the kids were

1523
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:00.800
<v Speaker 2>told that by the time twenty twenty five rolls around,

1524
01:27:01.079 --> 01:27:04.039
<v Speaker 2>no child in America will see snow, that ice and

1525
01:27:04.119 --> 01:27:06.800
<v Speaker 2>snow will be gone, That the economy is going to

1526
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>be the world's going to be heated up and on

1527
01:27:09.520 --> 01:27:11.399
<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty five. It's been a terrible year in

1528
01:27:11.439 --> 01:27:13.760
<v Speaker 2>the Midwest. It's not good at all, in fact throughout

1529
01:27:13.800 --> 01:27:16.720
<v Speaker 2>the South, and I think New Orleans had some snow

1530
01:27:16.840 --> 01:27:19.079
<v Speaker 2>just before the Super Bowl. And you also have a

1531
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>column you wrote in November. The headline is scientists have

1532
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:26.840
<v Speaker 2>not saved the ozone layer, and this is another scare

1533
01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:31.439
<v Speaker 2>tactic employed by environmental extremists to frighten us into public

1534
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:34.399
<v Speaker 2>policy based upon the wrong decisions. When you wrote this,

1535
01:27:34.760 --> 01:27:38.159
<v Speaker 2>explain why the ozone layer. We were told for years

1536
01:27:38.159 --> 01:27:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that if the ozone layer went away, would all be fried.

1537
01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless it didn't happen. This is ten years ago,

1538
01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:47.880
<v Speaker 2>predicted Tell us what NASA predicted ten years ago.

1539
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:52.840
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, well, this is way back about about nineteen seventy eight.

1540
01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:58.720
<v Speaker 10>I think the nations of the world assigned a agreement

1541
01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:02.279
<v Speaker 10>to try and get rid of all the chlorofluoro carbons

1542
01:28:02.279 --> 01:28:03.560
<v Speaker 10>that our industry was producing.

1543
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:04.159
<v Speaker 8>These were.

1544
01:28:05.960 --> 01:28:08.680
<v Speaker 10>The things that we're going into aerosols and other sorts

1545
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:12.800
<v Speaker 10>of things. A bunch of scientists said that these these

1546
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:14.560
<v Speaker 10>were going up in the atmosphere, they were sending the

1547
01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:18.600
<v Speaker 10>ozone layer, and they were the ozone hole over the Antarctic,

1548
01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:21.600
<v Speaker 10>and so the world is signed and I can't remember

1549
01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:25.239
<v Speaker 10>the name of the agreements here, the Montreal Protocol. They

1550
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:28.199
<v Speaker 10>signed the Montreal Protocol, and they shut down producing these things.

1551
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:31.920
<v Speaker 10>They went they went to zero by two thousand. Yet

1552
01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:35.079
<v Speaker 10>those on holes still up there. Every year NaSTA measures it.

1553
01:28:35.079 --> 01:28:38.239
<v Speaker 10>It's been twenty years now since all the floral chlorocarbons

1554
01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:41.159
<v Speaker 10>were gone and signed. Is saying, well, I was going

1555
01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:43.439
<v Speaker 10>to take another two or three decades before we see

1556
01:28:43.439 --> 01:28:45.520
<v Speaker 10>in effect. But you know, this is just another example

1557
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:48.800
<v Speaker 10>where scientists were wrong. The whole world marched in one direction.

1558
01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:51.239
<v Speaker 10>And it's very similar to the fears about man made

1559
01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:54.520
<v Speaker 10>global warming. You know, we've had a pretty cool winner

1560
01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:56.960
<v Speaker 10>this year and might we might have some global cooling

1561
01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:00.000
<v Speaker 10>coming up. What we need to do is reduce real poloe.

1562
01:29:00.760 --> 01:29:03.159
<v Speaker 10>We need to give people choice to produce, to allow

1563
01:29:03.239 --> 01:29:05.159
<v Speaker 10>them to buy evs or whatever they want to buy,

1564
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:08.279
<v Speaker 10>and quit having the government impose all this stuff. And

1565
01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:10.960
<v Speaker 10>that's what mister Trump is going to do here. We're

1566
01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:14.600
<v Speaker 10>turning this over in the United States and we may see.

1567
01:29:14.359 --> 01:29:16.039
<v Speaker 8>This go worldwide.

1568
01:29:16.079 --> 01:29:21.560
<v Speaker 10>We had just elections in Germany today or yesterday Europe,

1569
01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:25.840
<v Speaker 10>and the Conservatives and the people that don't like the

1570
01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:29.239
<v Speaker 10>climate agenda are gaining position.

1571
01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:32.359
<v Speaker 2>And I think they only got like the Conservatives got

1572
01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:34.239
<v Speaker 2>like twenty eight percent of the vote, which over there

1573
01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:37.159
<v Speaker 2>is a big number. And the course they're on is

1574
01:29:37.159 --> 01:29:40.399
<v Speaker 2>impossible to continue. And I think many Germans and Brits

1575
01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>feel like you and I may feel. Number one, we

1576
01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:46.439
<v Speaker 2>have a terrible budget debt and deficit to thirty six trillion.

1577
01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:48.279
<v Speaker 2>Number two, we had until about a month and a

1578
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:51.239
<v Speaker 2>half ago, open borders. And number three, we have to

1579
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>exploit the energy resources in America. I'm told that Germany

1580
01:29:54.960 --> 01:29:57.319
<v Speaker 2>has lots of natural gas and coal, but they can't

1581
01:29:57.439 --> 01:30:00.800
<v Speaker 2>use it because of climate extremism, and they have to

1582
01:30:00.840 --> 01:30:02.560
<v Speaker 2>buy a lot of it from Russia or from US.

1583
01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>And then Biden shuts down the LNG portals out of

1584
01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>New Orleans so that we couldn't transport it to them.

1585
01:30:07.760 --> 01:30:08.520
<v Speaker 3>And that's all.

1586
01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you have a sense that a long time ago,

1587
01:30:11.399 --> 01:30:14.039
<v Speaker 2>the long and the Steve Gorms, the Bill Cunningham's, the

1588
01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Sean Hannity's, the Joe Pegs, at some point it's sunk

1589
01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:21.079
<v Speaker 2>into the minds of the American people that we can't

1590
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:23.039
<v Speaker 2>continue in this course and be great Americans.

1591
01:30:23.039 --> 01:30:24.600
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a sense this is a breaking point.

1592
01:30:25.680 --> 01:30:26.520
<v Speaker 9>Well, I sure hope.

1593
01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:26.680
<v Speaker 8>So.

1594
01:30:26.760 --> 01:30:29.399
<v Speaker 10>I think this is the start of the rollback and

1595
01:30:29.439 --> 01:30:32.840
<v Speaker 10>the green initiatives and hopefully toward greater freedom. We had

1596
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:35.800
<v Speaker 10>that last election, and while mister Trump has been exceeding

1597
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:39.479
<v Speaker 10>everybody's expectations. Here, we'll just have to see how the

1598
01:30:39.479 --> 01:30:43.279
<v Speaker 10>economy reacts and how the world reacts. But I'm optimistic

1599
01:30:43.399 --> 01:30:46.039
<v Speaker 10>we can get back to free markets, we can get

1600
01:30:46.039 --> 01:30:51.399
<v Speaker 10>back to choice, and get back to things that are

1601
01:30:51.439 --> 01:30:55.800
<v Speaker 10>sensible rather than a government mandate and government government directed

1602
01:30:55.880 --> 01:30:58.239
<v Speaker 10>policies in so many areas trying to tell.

1603
01:30:58.079 --> 01:30:58.920
<v Speaker 8>Everybody what to do.

1604
01:31:00.119 --> 01:31:02.880
<v Speaker 2>I hope Ford Motor Companies learn its lesson. I hope

1605
01:31:02.920 --> 01:31:07.399
<v Speaker 2>the investors of Nicola and Rivian and also Plug Powers

1606
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:10.600
<v Speaker 2>learned its lesson. And the money we're saving out of

1607
01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Doze is truly unbelievable. They want to stigmatize Elon Musk.

1608
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:16.319
<v Speaker 2>He operates under the power of the president. He can

1609
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:19.039
<v Speaker 2>do nothing without Donald Trump's approval. He can do nothing

1610
01:31:19.079 --> 01:31:22.239
<v Speaker 2>without Donald Trump's Okay, he can do nothing without that.

1611
01:31:22.439 --> 01:31:25.159
<v Speaker 2>And to find that waste, fraud and abuse is something

1612
01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I have These clips I played before about Bill Clinton

1613
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>talking about waste fraud and abuse, and Al Gore talking

1614
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>about waste fraud and abuse, and Barack Hussein Obama and

1615
01:31:33.640 --> 01:31:36.359
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden talking about waste fraud and abuse, and now

1616
01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>that it's being located, they don't want it to go

1617
01:31:38.399 --> 01:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>because it's the way they get rich. I don't know

1618
01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:42.880
<v Speaker 2>how politicians go into office making one hundred and seventy

1619
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:44.800
<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars a year at the max. They live

1620
01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:47.520
<v Speaker 2>in two different places and they leave worth hundreds of

1621
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:50.079
<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars. I'm talking about Mitch McConnell and Nancy

1622
01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Pelosi and all the others. They're monetizing themselves. They've wasted

1623
01:31:54.199 --> 01:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>our tax money. It's been stolen, looted, and wasted, and

1624
01:31:56.640 --> 01:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>now we find out about it, and it's about time.

1625
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how now Ford Motor Company can

1626
01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:04.439
<v Speaker 2>continue in this course and be a functioning company.

1627
01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:05.199
<v Speaker 8>Six.

1628
01:32:05.359 --> 01:32:06.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm a Chevy kind of a guy.

1629
01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:08.640
<v Speaker 2>But on the other end of the combustion engines, they

1630
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:10.640
<v Speaker 2>make a fortune, then they give it all away. And

1631
01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:12.800
<v Speaker 2>when you buy a combustion engine, part of the price

1632
01:32:12.800 --> 01:32:14.119
<v Speaker 2>of that is the loss of evs.

1633
01:32:14.199 --> 01:32:16.239
<v Speaker 3>Correct, Yeah, I think so.

1634
01:32:16.479 --> 01:32:19.039
<v Speaker 10>Anyway, people on to get my book Green breakdown, they

1635
01:32:19.039 --> 01:32:20.920
<v Speaker 10>can learn the whole story of how this thing's all

1636
01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:24.800
<v Speaker 10>going to fall apart. And it's full of great sidebars too.

1637
01:32:25.079 --> 01:32:28.039
<v Speaker 10>For example, there's a sidebar in there. These are color

1638
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:32.039
<v Speaker 10>sidebars that says global warming makes couples cheat. This says

1639
01:32:32.039 --> 01:32:35.079
<v Speaker 10>a dating website. This is Miami New Times the headline.

1640
01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:38.479
<v Speaker 10>So in addition to the science and economics, got all

1641
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:40.560
<v Speaker 10>sorts of fun things in there about this mad, mad

1642
01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:43.600
<v Speaker 10>mad world of climatism. But if they go to my website,

1643
01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:46.319
<v Speaker 10>Steve Gorham G O R E H A M dot com,

1644
01:32:46.319 --> 01:32:49.640
<v Speaker 10>I'll send him a signed copy and they can learn

1645
01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:50.880
<v Speaker 10>all they need to know.

1646
01:32:51.800 --> 01:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think maybe after all these years we're

1647
01:32:53.960 --> 01:32:57.319
<v Speaker 2>having some measurable impact in a positive way. Steve Gorham,

1648
01:32:57.359 --> 01:32:59.199
<v Speaker 2>you're a great American, and thank you for coming on

1649
01:32:59.239 --> 01:33:00.279
<v Speaker 2>the Bill Cunningham Show.

1650
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Steve, Thank you.

1651
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:02.159
<v Speaker 8>Bill.

1652
01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's continue with more. And that's it. I've had

1653
01:33:06.239 --> 01:33:08.359
<v Speaker 2>Steve on maybe for the last ten or twelve years,

1654
01:33:08.439 --> 01:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>and maybe there's an impact we're having with public policy,

1655
01:33:11.800 --> 01:33:14.840
<v Speaker 2>the opposite of what liberals intend. Bill Cunningham with you

1656
01:33:15.399 --> 01:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, The Great American. We

1657
01:33:26.840 --> 01:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>live in a country right now logically is as pure

1658
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:33.720
<v Speaker 2>and as good as perhaps it's been in the past

1659
01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:36.520
<v Speaker 2>one hundred years. You can look up and see a

1660
01:33:36.520 --> 01:33:40.039
<v Speaker 2>blue sky. The predictions of those on the radical left

1661
01:33:40.479 --> 01:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty five years ago that by twenty twenty five there

1662
01:33:43.119 --> 01:33:45.279
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be any snow falling anywhere in the country, Are

1663
01:33:45.279 --> 01:33:47.479
<v Speaker 2>you kidding me? Would he aired? Are you kidding me?

1664
01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>As a boy growing up in Cincinnati, Ohio, there was

1665
01:33:50.840 --> 01:33:53.600
<v Speaker 2>an occasion where you could not take fish out of

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<v Speaker 2>the Ohio River. Of course I wouldn't have done it anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now, on a summer's evening, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>to the Ohio or Mississippi River and watch hundreds of

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01:34:01.319 --> 01:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>people taking fish out of the rivers. Because the pollution

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01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:09.399
<v Speaker 2>has largely subsided. We all organize ourselves against pollution, but

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01:34:09.560 --> 01:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>against the idea man made global warming causing climate change.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's happened over the past twenty five or thirty

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01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>years or so is that these ideas have metastasized through

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01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>the high schools and colleges, universities, and graduate schools in

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01:34:21.960 --> 01:34:24.960
<v Speaker 2>which a person is paid based upon their political belief.

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<v Speaker 2>If you believe in man made global warming causing climate change.

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01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Your idea will be funded. If you believe in a lie,

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01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:35.479
<v Speaker 2>you'll be paid, and politicians run on the idea. I

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01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:39.640
<v Speaker 2>guess what that we can actually stop the earth from turning,

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01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the oceans from waving in the skies, getting rid of

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01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:48.439
<v Speaker 2>all the elements in the sky above which is caused

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01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.600
<v Speaker 2>by man made global warming, which we cannot do. God

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01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:57.199
<v Speaker 2>has corrected that we fund bad ideas that fuel public policy.

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01:34:57.520 --> 01:34:58.000
<v Speaker 3>And now with.

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01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump, I pray to God that is largely over.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's continue with more. Coming up next to me

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<v Speaker 2>Grover Norquist Americans for Tax Reform, and he's been out

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<v Speaker 2>of for about thirty five years or so, preaching the

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01:35:09.319 --> 01:35:13.159
<v Speaker 2>gospel of giving Americans more of freedom by allowing them

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01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:15.439
<v Speaker 2>to keep more of their own money, and the centivizing

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01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the economic activity instead of trying to destroy it, and

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<v Speaker 2>so much like with Steve gorm which I said to

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01:35:20.840 --> 01:35:22.319
<v Speaker 2>him earlier, I think we've had some.

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<v Speaker 3>Measurable impact in the minds of voters.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the same thing is true about Grover Norquest

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<v Speaker 2>atr dot org. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you

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01:35:31.159 --> 01:35:44.720
<v Speaker 2>and all of the great Americans Every Sunday By Billy

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01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Cunningham the great American. One of the great advocates for

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01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:50.279
<v Speaker 2>tax reform in this country is Grover north Quest. He's

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01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>been fabulous on this issue for twenty or thirty years,

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01:35:53.279 --> 01:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>and now things I'm almost metastasized where actually it might happen.

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01:35:57.039 --> 01:36:00.279
<v Speaker 2>When the Trumpster was first elected in twenty sixteen, and

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01:36:00.319 --> 01:36:02.359
<v Speaker 2>I thought, okay, he said and made all these promises

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01:36:02.399 --> 01:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>that didn't occur, and I thought, okay, well, that's that's

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01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the way politics go. But now this time, I think

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01:36:08.279 --> 01:36:11.359
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's because of the last intervening four years, what

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01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:14.600
<v Speaker 2>he was put through, and as a consequence of that,

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01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:18.159
<v Speaker 2>he's now more committed than ever to doing what needs

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01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:20.920
<v Speaker 2>to be done. And we indicate now that he's going

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01:36:20.920 --> 01:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>to go after the IRS. And Grover Norquist has written

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01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:26.920
<v Speaker 2>on the subject many times. They have over two thousand

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01:36:27.039 --> 01:36:30.319
<v Speaker 2>cars available for the IRS the cost of one hundreds

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01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:33.000
<v Speaker 2>of millions of dollars. They have bullets, they have guns,

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01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:36.279
<v Speaker 2>they have ammunition. And so Grover Norquist, welcome again to

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01:36:36.319 --> 01:36:38.520
<v Speaker 2>the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, tell the

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01:36:38.560 --> 01:36:42.560
<v Speaker 2>American people, how good do you feel now that tax

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01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>reform may actually occur.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think we're going to get the bill passed.

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01:36:47.720 --> 01:36:51.319
<v Speaker 7>The President of today tweeted out the assertion that we

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01:36:51.439 --> 01:36:55.840
<v Speaker 7>need now to pass one bill, not two bills. There

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01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:57.720
<v Speaker 7>were some well meaning people who wanted to.

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01:36:57.680 --> 01:36:59.760
<v Speaker 8>Do two bills. The problem is if you do two,

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01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:03.479
<v Speaker 8>it would never actually get done. So we are now moving.

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01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:07.720
<v Speaker 7>On one bill, which is the consensus issue here, and

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01:37:08.239 --> 01:37:09.600
<v Speaker 7>that will be a tax cut.

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<v Speaker 8>The President's tax cut will be made permanent.

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01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:15.279
<v Speaker 7>It will go out indefinitely, not just for ten years,

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01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:20.039
<v Speaker 7>but permanently. And the good news there is that we

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01:37:20.159 --> 01:37:26.079
<v Speaker 7>have people will be sure and secure in what we're accomplishing,

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01:37:26.800 --> 01:37:30.960
<v Speaker 7>and you'll know, Okay, this is what your tax full expensing.

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01:37:31.000 --> 01:37:33.439
<v Speaker 7>One of the things that passed in the original bill

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<v Speaker 7>which will be kept.

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01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:36.239
<v Speaker 8>The lower rate for small.

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01:37:36.079 --> 01:37:37.319
<v Speaker 9>Businesses will be kept.

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01:37:37.640 --> 01:37:40.520
<v Speaker 8>The lower rates. Every American will have lower tax.

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<v Speaker 7>Rates than than before it because that's what was passed

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01:37:44.239 --> 01:37:48.079
<v Speaker 7>in the original bill. And the cheerful news that we

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01:37:48.119 --> 01:37:52.000
<v Speaker 7>will double the standard deduction for individuals and double the

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01:37:52.079 --> 01:37:55.439
<v Speaker 7>per Chiub tax credit. All of these things which passed

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01:37:55.439 --> 01:37:57.960
<v Speaker 7>in twenty seven will now be made permanent.

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01:37:58.279 --> 01:38:01.640
<v Speaker 8>It is a huge, huge step in the right direction.

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01:38:01.880 --> 01:38:05.399
<v Speaker 2>And as far as finding this trillion dollars, all of

1743
01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:07.720
<v Speaker 2>us assumed there was waste fraud and abuse. In fact,

1744
01:38:07.760 --> 01:38:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I've played before the cuts of Barack Hussein Obama talking

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01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:15.039
<v Speaker 2>about waste fraud and abuse. In nineteen ninety four, there

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01:38:15.079 --> 01:38:18.279
<v Speaker 2>was a big government commission put together by Bill Clinton

1747
01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:22.319
<v Speaker 2>and Al Gore, and they had these four foot high

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01:38:22.359 --> 01:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>pages of rules and regulations. They said, okay, we're going

1749
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:28.359
<v Speaker 2>after that. Then you got Joe Biden. I've played his

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01:38:28.439 --> 01:38:30.399
<v Speaker 2>cuts about all the waste fraud and abuse in the

1751
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>federal government. And I played that, and I'm thinking, Okay,

1752
01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:37.560
<v Speaker 2>that's going to happen. Why do you believe now, Grover Norquist?

1753
01:38:38.119 --> 01:38:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I know I believe it now, which I haven't believed

1754
01:38:40.279 --> 01:38:44.840
<v Speaker 2>it until recently, that this president is serious about cutting

1755
01:38:44.880 --> 01:38:47.479
<v Speaker 2>the size and the scope of the federal government over

1756
01:38:47.520 --> 01:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the objections of CNN. Why this time do you have

1757
01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:54.119
<v Speaker 2>more hope than before? Because I've heard heard this song before,

1758
01:38:54.520 --> 01:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>sung by others, But this time I believe.

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01:38:56.640 --> 01:38:58.079
<v Speaker 8>It several reasons.

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01:38:58.079 --> 01:39:00.600
<v Speaker 7>The first is that we have a Republican House and

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01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:04.319
<v Speaker 7>a Republican Senate. When Reagan was president, he had a

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01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:08.439
<v Speaker 7>Republican Senate. He had the Grace Commission report, which came

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01:39:08.479 --> 01:39:11.560
<v Speaker 7>out with many, many good and important ideas, some of

1764
01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:13.840
<v Speaker 7>which could be done by executive orner, but many of

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01:39:13.880 --> 01:39:17.720
<v Speaker 7>which required laws. And with a democratic House, nothing could

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01:39:17.760 --> 01:39:23.039
<v Speaker 7>actually move. Nothing could move. When the Democrats had the

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01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:25.920
<v Speaker 7>House in the Senate under Bill Clinton, they could say

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01:39:25.960 --> 01:39:29.039
<v Speaker 7>they were for all these reforms, but all those reforms

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01:39:29.079 --> 01:39:31.840
<v Speaker 7>reduced the number of democratic restinct workers in the country.

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01:39:32.119 --> 01:39:34.920
<v Speaker 8>That was never ever going to get fixed that way.

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01:39:35.960 --> 01:39:38.520
<v Speaker 7>The other reason to believe it is the president is

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01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:39.920
<v Speaker 7>now in his second term.

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01:39:40.479 --> 01:39:44.960
<v Speaker 8>He was here for four years. He's seen how the bureaucracy.

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01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:48.119
<v Speaker 7>Lies to the president about what's actually happening in each

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01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:52.920
<v Speaker 7>of these situations. And he had staff around him who

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01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:56.000
<v Speaker 7>is hardened, and they have fought these fights before.

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<v Speaker 8>And I would add one other thing.

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01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:03.880
<v Speaker 7>Elon and x Elon Musk has a lot of brilliant

1779
01:40:03.920 --> 01:40:06.159
<v Speaker 7>talent which goes in and looks at the computers things

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<v Speaker 7>you think should have been done every year for the

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01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:11.720
<v Speaker 7>last thirty years. For crying out loud, how in the

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01:40:11.720 --> 01:40:14.640
<v Speaker 7>world did they not go into these computers to say

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01:40:15.119 --> 01:40:17.159
<v Speaker 7>how old are the people on Social Security? Are there

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01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:20.680
<v Speaker 7>several people with the same Social Security number?

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01:40:20.800 --> 01:40:22.880
<v Speaker 8>Perhaps? You know, why in.

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01:40:22.840 --> 01:40:25.800
<v Speaker 7>The world did this not get exposed before? This is

1787
01:40:26.479 --> 01:40:30.479
<v Speaker 7>not you think it isn't terribly difficult. But they've gone

1788
01:40:30.520 --> 01:40:32.600
<v Speaker 7>in with people who know what to look for and

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01:40:32.640 --> 01:40:34.920
<v Speaker 7>how to find it, and they've been very good at it.

1790
01:40:36.079 --> 01:40:39.319
<v Speaker 7>And then the same thing happened. Add one thing x

1791
01:40:39.720 --> 01:40:42.680
<v Speaker 7>X Twitter. Right when we tried to take a good

1792
01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:46.880
<v Speaker 7>idea and publicize it to cut taxes when the Republicans

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01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:49.239
<v Speaker 7>took over in ninety four in the House and Senate,

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01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:54.000
<v Speaker 7>what happened, Well, the New York Times wasn't interested in things,

1795
01:40:54.399 --> 01:40:58.640
<v Speaker 7>and the Washington Post wasn't interested in it, and so

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01:40:58.760 --> 01:41:03.439
<v Speaker 7>these are just they just were not interested in getting

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01:41:03.760 --> 01:41:06.359
<v Speaker 7>any of these things done or in publicizing them.

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01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:09.039
<v Speaker 8>And says, now, what can happen As.

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<v Speaker 7>Long as he thinks it's a good idea, you know what,

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01:41:11.840 --> 01:41:14.760
<v Speaker 7>it'll get talked about. It will get talked about. He

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01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:17.840
<v Speaker 7>will send it out and ten million people will see

1802
01:41:19.039 --> 01:41:22.279
<v Speaker 7>what's going on, and that's over. It's one of those

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01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:27.520
<v Speaker 7>things where frankly, they can't shut us up. They can't

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01:41:27.640 --> 01:41:30.479
<v Speaker 7>shut us up. They want to, but they can't.

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01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>The stars have aligned, and they've aligned in ways I

1806
01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:37.199
<v Speaker 2>thought it was possible but not likely. One thing, I know,

1807
01:41:37.279 --> 01:41:39.159
<v Speaker 2>you're more familiar with the numbers than I am but

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01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:43.079
<v Speaker 2>the government accounting off. As GEO said in twenty twenty three,

1809
01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:46.479
<v Speaker 2>this is during the heyday of Joe Biden and n

1810
01:41:46.600 --> 01:41:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Kamala Harris. Now, between two hundred and fifty billion up

1811
01:41:50.640 --> 01:41:53.760
<v Speaker 2>to five hundred and fifty billion dollars a year was

1812
01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:56.720
<v Speaker 2>lost through the federal government with waste, fraud and abuse.

1813
01:41:57.000 --> 01:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>Now that thing hit with a thud because nobody in

1814
01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the Congress, Democrats controlled it wanted to highlight the fact

1815
01:42:03.079 --> 01:42:06.359
<v Speaker 2>that every year between two hundred and fifty billion and

1816
01:42:06.479 --> 01:42:10.279
<v Speaker 2>five hundred and fifty billion is simply lost, and that

1817
01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:13.159
<v Speaker 2>thing has been resurrected. I watched the other day of

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01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:15.960
<v Speaker 2>the interview with my friend, my good friend Sean Hannity,

1819
01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:18.000
<v Speaker 2>and I spoke to him about a day or two

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01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:21.439
<v Speaker 2>thereafter to get his perspective on things with the DOGE

1821
01:42:21.439 --> 01:42:25.560
<v Speaker 2>and Elon Muskin and of course President Trump. And one

1822
01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:27.960
<v Speaker 2>thing that came out of it is the President said, look,

1823
01:42:28.000 --> 01:42:31.159
<v Speaker 2>I signed these eos, these executive orders. I sign them,

1824
01:42:31.319 --> 01:42:34.039
<v Speaker 2>but then they go into a file somewhere and nothing happens.

1825
01:42:34.319 --> 01:42:37.079
<v Speaker 2>He said, I did that in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.

1826
01:42:37.319 --> 01:42:41.560
<v Speaker 2>I signed these executive orders. So what the bureaucracy ate

1827
01:42:41.640 --> 01:42:45.520
<v Speaker 2>the homework. They didn't care. So what's different this time?

1828
01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Why will the bureaucracy care when Trump signs an EO.

1829
01:42:49.680 --> 01:42:53.159
<v Speaker 7>Well, they're putting people in who can actually manage that

1830
01:42:53.279 --> 01:42:57.680
<v Speaker 7>sort of thing, and that has really changed. New leadership

1831
01:42:58.319 --> 01:43:00.800
<v Speaker 7>at the head of each of these agents, at the

1832
01:43:00.840 --> 01:43:03.159
<v Speaker 7>head of each of these departments. I mean, this is

1833
01:43:03.199 --> 01:43:06.039
<v Speaker 7>just amazing what they've done. They've got some people who

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01:43:06.199 --> 01:43:09.760
<v Speaker 7>just are willing to say, we're doing this and I

1835
01:43:09.880 --> 01:43:13.880
<v Speaker 7>don't care to hear your objections because we've heard them before.

1836
01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:17.239
<v Speaker 7>Can you imagine, you know, some of the people that

1837
01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:21.640
<v Speaker 7>he's brought in, they have been through these wars, with

1838
01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:26.479
<v Speaker 7>these conflicts, They've dealt with this before. They know how

1839
01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:30.680
<v Speaker 7>the bureaucracy tries to get around decisions.

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01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:31.079
<v Speaker 8>Made by the president.

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01:43:31.640 --> 01:43:36.920
<v Speaker 7>And after this, the Supreme Court is now serious about life.

1842
01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:39.199
<v Speaker 7>In the past, we had a very left wing Supreme

1843
01:43:39.239 --> 01:43:42.279
<v Speaker 7>Court which would say, oh, you can't do this, and

1844
01:43:42.319 --> 01:43:45.239
<v Speaker 7>you go why not? They say, well, we'll come up

1845
01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:47.920
<v Speaker 7>with a reason why later. This is the Supreme Court

1846
01:43:48.239 --> 01:43:52.000
<v Speaker 7>that recognizes the president runs the executive office.

1847
01:43:52.039 --> 01:43:54.079
<v Speaker 8>The president runs.

1848
01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:58.000
<v Speaker 7>The executive branch, not the bureaucrats. This is not set

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01:43:58.079 --> 01:44:00.239
<v Speaker 7>up for bureaucrats. This is set up for the president

1850
01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:03.399
<v Speaker 7>to run it and all of the decisions they've made

1851
01:44:03.439 --> 01:44:06.600
<v Speaker 7>in the past. That allows some departments to say, this

1852
01:44:06.640 --> 01:44:10.159
<v Speaker 7>is what we're doing, and the department's going to run it,

1853
01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:12.319
<v Speaker 7>or this SEC is going to run over the FCC

1854
01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:15.319
<v Speaker 7>or one of these alphabet things. This is very, very

1855
01:44:15.319 --> 01:44:21.079
<v Speaker 7>important that we have people as cabinet officers who are

1856
01:44:21.279 --> 01:44:24.399
<v Speaker 7>willing to push for what the President asked for. We

1857
01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:28.119
<v Speaker 7>have a House and the Senate willing to investigate whenever

1858
01:44:28.159 --> 01:44:30.520
<v Speaker 7>the bureaucracy is in the way, and we have a

1859
01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:34.520
<v Speaker 7>Supreme Court that believes, yes, this is being made by us.

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01:44:34.760 --> 01:44:37.000
<v Speaker 7>This decision is being made by the President, not by

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<v Speaker 7>bureau crounts.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a list here of the age of people

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01:44:40.359 --> 01:44:42.159
<v Speaker 2>getting Social Security benefits.

1864
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<v Speaker 3>It is totally ridiculous.

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01:44:43.840 --> 01:44:46.039
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't take a rocket science is to figure out

1866
01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:49.560
<v Speaker 2>something is seriously wrong with one hundred and fifty year

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01:44:49.560 --> 01:44:53.399
<v Speaker 2>olds getting Social Security along with a massive fraud.

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<v Speaker 3>I have the list here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're between one hundred and one hundred and ten

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01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:01.720
<v Speaker 2>years old, that's a pretty big number. One hundred and

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01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:04.680
<v Speaker 2>ten years old. Four point seven million are on the

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01:45:04.760 --> 01:45:07.800
<v Speaker 2>roles getting Social Security. If you're one hundred and fifty

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01:45:07.880 --> 01:45:11.000
<v Speaker 2>years old, there's one point three million getting it. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're between ninety and one hundred and six million are

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<v Speaker 2>getting it. There aren't that many people alive, and you

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<v Speaker 2>would think, and according to Elon Musk, they're using the

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<v Speaker 2>technology that was available, believe it or not, during World

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01:45:22.520 --> 01:45:26.119
<v Speaker 2>War Two to conduct Social Security payments. I want every

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<v Speaker 2>recipient to get every dollar that they're entitled to, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have Social Security tell me every

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<v Speaker 2>year there's one hundred billion dollars missing in Social Security.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no audit ever conducted in your business. At American

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<v Speaker 2>tax reform, I would assume at some point somebody looks

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<v Speaker 2>at an audit and say, we got an audit. See

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<v Speaker 2>where the money went to do secondary proof. But with

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01:45:46.600 --> 01:45:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Social Security, that never happens. When I look at this

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01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:52.640
<v Speaker 2>list of people getting Social Security benefits, it is absurd,

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<v Speaker 2>and Elon Musk wants to fix it now.

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<v Speaker 3>Lastly, I know it on your website.

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<v Speaker 2>I have many listeners believe or not, in the state

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01:45:59.359 --> 01:46:02.439
<v Speaker 2>of California, and they've got a terrible problem coming up

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<v Speaker 2>because of what Gavin Newsom has done to gas prices.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Midwest. In fact, rates are coming down.

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<v Speaker 2>But can you tell the American people why the gasoline

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<v Speaker 2>prices out west are ridiculously high caused by Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, among other things, they've been not building pipelines, they've

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01:46:19.159 --> 01:46:22.640
<v Speaker 7>been not building refineries, and because they have taxes, they

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<v Speaker 7>have tremendous tax taxes on energy and everything that goes

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<v Speaker 7>into energy. The higher energy costs in California are clearly,

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<v Speaker 7>as you point out, done by that governor and the

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01:46:34.039 --> 01:46:38.399
<v Speaker 7>legislature and by previous governors of legislators that said, we

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<v Speaker 7>don't want pipelines coming into this into this beautiful state. No,

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01:46:43.279 --> 01:46:45.960
<v Speaker 7>they're going to have a real problem now and in

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<v Speaker 7>the future.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact it's going to get worse, not better

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<v Speaker 2>unless and people of California got to decide for themselves

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But tax reform is where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you envision the day Grover Norquist, maybe in two

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<v Speaker 2>or three years, were going to have a flat tax

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<v Speaker 2>or a value added tax that the irs will not

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<v Speaker 2>exist and that will pay taxes when we buy something,

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<v Speaker 2>or there will be a flat tax.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see that day coming?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think that we can and will get to

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<v Speaker 7>a single rate flat tax. And the reason for that

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<v Speaker 7>is that at the state level, there are eight states

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<v Speaker 7>where the income tax is zero.

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<v Speaker 8>That's a flat rate. That's my favorite flat rate path.

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<v Speaker 7>And there are fifteen other states that have single rates

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<v Speaker 7>of two, three, or four percent. So twenty three percent

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<v Speaker 7>of the twenty three states twenty three states, almost half

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01:47:38.079 --> 01:47:40.479
<v Speaker 7>have a single rate tax, either.

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<v Speaker 8>Zero or a non zero number.

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<v Speaker 7>There are ten states that are phasing their income taxes

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<v Speaker 7>down to zero, where the legislature and the governor said

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<v Speaker 7>we're on the way to zero. Here's how we're doing it,

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<v Speaker 7>and they've passed the law to begin that March. So

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<v Speaker 7>over the next few years, probably in three years, there

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<v Speaker 7>will be a majority of states with a single rate tax,

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<v Speaker 7>and ten to fifteen years from now, they'll be fully

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<v Speaker 7>twenty states that have no income tax at all. So

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<v Speaker 7>as a majority of the members of the House and

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<v Speaker 7>a majority of the members of the Senate come from

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<v Speaker 7>states with a single rate tax or a zero income tax,

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<v Speaker 7>I could see how we do this nationally, not just

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01:48:26.079 --> 01:48:29.279
<v Speaker 7>in our state. It works in Texas, it works in Florida,

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<v Speaker 7>it works in Ohio. You know, all of these states

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<v Speaker 7>have single rate Illinois for crying out loud, has it.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a single rate tax, and the legislature can't fix it.

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<v Speaker 7>It can't change it because people like a single rate tax.

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<v Speaker 7>They feel protected. They're not going to be divided into

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<v Speaker 7>different groups and mug one at a time. So it's

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<v Speaker 7>a huge, huge step forward.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Lastly, you may put yourself out of business. Go over

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<v Speaker 2>nor questatr dot org. You may be out of business

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<v Speaker 2>with this. But now Indiana's passed. They had unanimous vote

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<v Speaker 2>in the Senate by Democrats and Republicans in the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Indiana to phase out the income tax. Ohio is

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<v Speaker 2>on that route right now. It's three point five percent,

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01:49:10.079 --> 01:49:13.239
<v Speaker 2>is on its way to zero. And when I look

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<v Speaker 2>at this, it has to be number one. When I

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<v Speaker 2>watch CNN, etc. They're telling me constantly, all this is

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<v Speaker 2>a billionaire tax build that Donald Trump wants to give

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01:49:23.520 --> 01:49:26.720
<v Speaker 2>tax cuts to his billionaire friends at the expense of

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01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:29.399
<v Speaker 2>your social security. Are you there to respond to that

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<v Speaker 2>one at all? How about the billionaires getting tax cuts

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<v Speaker 2>and mom and dad being thrown off a cliff totally ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 7>That is what the Democrats say every time, as a

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<v Speaker 7>tax doesn't matter what tax you're reducing, they think cutting

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<v Speaker 7>you know, raising every tax is a good idea.

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<v Speaker 8>And cutting any tax is a bad idea.

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<v Speaker 7>And the American people are not buying the argument that

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<v Speaker 7>reducing taxes for everybody is somehow gift to quote unquote billionaires.

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<v Speaker 7>My favorite is the Democrats say, well, if you tax corporations,

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<v Speaker 7>people don't actually pay for it. Well there is no, mister,

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<v Speaker 7>general voters, It just isn't. If you raise taxes on

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<v Speaker 7>general voters or the grocery store down the street.

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<v Speaker 8>What happens.

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<v Speaker 7>They raise the price of what they sell to get

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<v Speaker 7>the more money, or they reduce wages or the number

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<v Speaker 7>of people working in order to save the money that

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<v Speaker 7>they then give to the government. They have to get

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<v Speaker 7>the money somewhere, so they either take it out of

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01:50:36.119 --> 01:50:40.560
<v Speaker 7>today's payroll by paying people less or hiring fewer people,

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<v Speaker 7>or if they can, they could raise prices, which hits consumers.

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<v Speaker 7>And if the company's really badly damaged such that the

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<v Speaker 7>stock goes down in the company, well, then half of

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<v Speaker 7>American families whose pensions are determined by the ice shares

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<v Speaker 7>of stock, will see the value of their retirement savings

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<v Speaker 7>go down. So retirees pay the corporate income tax. Consumers

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01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:16.279
<v Speaker 7>pay the corporate income tax. Workers pay the corporate income tax.

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<v Speaker 7>Some things don't pay the corporate income tax. They don't

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<v Speaker 7>have any money. It's lungs to somebody else. And so

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<v Speaker 7>this is you know, if General Motors spend takes a

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<v Speaker 7>dollar and gives it to the government, that came out

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<v Speaker 7>of workers pay, or it came out of higher prices,

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<v Speaker 7>or it came out of collapsing value of the company.

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<v Speaker 2>We consumers pay every corporate tax. It's not don't tax you,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tax me, tax the guy behind the tree. When

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<v Speaker 2>business taxes go up, consumers pay one percent of those

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<v Speaker 2>taxes directly, or wages go down, one or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Once again, Grover Nor course, I'll look Ford to the

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<v Speaker 2>days in the next few years. You and I have

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<v Speaker 2>no reason to talk atr dot org. Americans for tax Reform.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happened, and you may get yourself out of work,

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<v Speaker 2>but so be it, Grover nor question. You've been fighting

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<v Speaker 2>this thing for thirty years along with me. Thanks again

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<v Speaker 2>for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Grover, you're

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<v Speaker 2>a great American.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh and absolutely, and even after we win, I'll call

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<v Speaker 7>and we'll say hi anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Grover, Thank you very much. Take care all right, let's

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01:52:20.520 --> 01:52:23.359
<v Speaker 2>continue with more. That guy makes a whole bunch of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been at it for thirty years. Don't believe what

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01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:28.079
<v Speaker 2>the media tells you. You, as a consumer, pay all

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<v Speaker 2>business taxes in the form of higher prices for goods

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<v Speaker 2>and services. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, live with you

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<v Speaker 2>every Sunday Night, My Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for listening tonight. As we began about almost three hours ago,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to be a consequential week. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that so many federal courts will take away the

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<v Speaker 2>power of a president. Eventually, it's going to get to

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court's going to rule

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<v Speaker 2>in favor of Donald Trump. Very confident because they have to,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the law. And secondly, I fear that Israel will

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<v Speaker 2>not do what it must do for its survivability and

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't act as if America acted in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty one through nineteen forty five, And what's the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to have peace in the Middle East? To have

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<v Speaker 2>total unconditional surrender by hamas by Hesbla and by Iran,

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01:53:14.039 --> 01:53:17.000
<v Speaker 2>that you cannot have a situation in Gaza in which

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas is still in charge, and that somehow all the

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<v Speaker 2>sacrifices up to this point will continue for generations to

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<v Speaker 2>come because Israel is being restrained by European powers or

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<v Speaker 2>others not to do what's right for their survivability. They

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<v Speaker 2>must survive. No nation could put up with what it

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<v Speaker 2>put up with beginning on October the seventh of about

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred days ago. And watch the murder of the innocence,

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<v Speaker 2>and the trade the innocent for mass murderers for everyone Israeli.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth more than one hundred Palestinian murderers? Are you

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<v Speaker 2>kidding me? Somehow this must stop, and it must stop now,

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<v Speaker 2>and Israel must win this war, and they must be

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<v Speaker 2>unrestrained to do what they must do, especially toward Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hasbalahanim, thanks for listening, and say a prayer of

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<v Speaker 2>gratitude for the sacrifice of so many police officers. The

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<v Speaker 2>thin blue line between democracy and anarchy. Bill Cunningham with

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<v Speaker 2>you every Sunday night.
