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Speaker 2: All right now, Billy Cunningham, the Great America. What a
Speaker 2: glorious Sunday night. Throughout the nation and the world things
Speaker 2: are happening. There's a report out of Fox News that
Speaker 2: before midnight tonight, what's about about two hours from now
Speaker 2: or less than that, we're going to have a report
Speaker 2: out of the Trump administration that they're firing about twenty
Speaker 2: one hundred more USA workers. And the notice is going
Speaker 2: out now as we speak on this Sunday night, getting
Speaker 2: ready for this week. It's going to be a great week.
Speaker 2: I watched, of course, sixty minutes as much as I
Speaker 2: could with my finger stuck down my throat, watching the
Speaker 2: report of Scott Pelley about how important the Department of
Speaker 2: Justice has been to the United States of America, comparing
Speaker 2: a constitutional crisis to what happened in nineteen seventy three
Speaker 2: and nineteen seventy four with Richard Nixon, going back to
Speaker 2: eighteen twenty seven when President to Andrew Jackson said, if
Speaker 2: this Supreme Court rules against me, let them enforce their
Speaker 2: own So the media, especially sixty Minutes, it's about to
Speaker 2: pay I think Donald Trump about ten million dollars in
Speaker 2: damages for the non reporting of the interview of Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2: But that's a different matter. That the media drumbeat is
Speaker 2: beginning to get louder, that this is some illegitimate president
Speaker 2: who shouldn't be doing what he's doing. Of course, the
Speaker 2: thesis of Scott Pelly Tonight on Sixty Minutes was that
Speaker 2: the Department of Justice is the final arbitrator of all
Speaker 2: things right, good and just in the entire world, and
Speaker 2: that somehow, if Donald Trump wants to install his own
Speaker 2: people at the Department of Justice, which has happened for
Speaker 2: the past one hundred years by almost every president, that
Speaker 2: somehow that is sick and it's wrong, and it's a
Speaker 2: constitutional crisis. And I watched some of this report, I
Speaker 2: harkened back to all the topics you and I have
Speaker 2: listened to and done together, and that is what the
Speaker 2: Biden administration did purposely to Donald Trump, not just Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: but to everyone around Donald Trump in the White House's lawyers,
Speaker 2: his consultants, including chiefs of staff, etc. To bring them
Speaker 2: down with the goal of getting Donald Trump locked up
Speaker 2: before the twenty twenty four election. And but for the
Speaker 2: stupidity and the recalcitrance of certain special counsel, it likely
Speaker 2: would have happened. I often say when I speak to
Speaker 2: members of the Trump family the road not taken, which is,
Speaker 2: there is no question in my mind that if Jack
Speaker 2: Smith was a bit more competent and started this thing
Speaker 2: a year before he started it under the auspices of
Speaker 2: Mary Garland, Joe Biden, who repeatedly said he wanted Donald
Speaker 2: Trump prosecuted.
Speaker 3: Yes he did.
Speaker 2: The President said, prosecute directly and indirectly Donald Trump. If
Speaker 2: he would have started that damn thing a year before
Speaker 2: he did, and this thing was before a jury in
Speaker 2: d C in Washington, d C. Is there any doubt
Speaker 2: in your mind what the vericut would have been, Any
Speaker 2: doubt in your mind that Judge Tanya Chudkin, who is
Speaker 2: Obama appoint in a left winger, would have sent Donald
Speaker 2: Trump to jail. She would have locked him up forthwith
Speaker 2: and threw away the key. So how lucky. I often
Speaker 2: say the prayer of the archangel Michael about the evil
Speaker 2: crawling the earth looking to ruin souls and destroy lives.
Speaker 2: And the system came close to being overwhelmed, not by
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, but by the illegalities of the FBI and
Speaker 2: the Department of Justice at the highest level. And so
Speaker 2: when I watched this report tonight in sixty minutes, I
Speaker 2: couldn't believe my eyes that I was hearing that sixty
Speaker 2: minutes was saying, you know what, the Department of Justice
Speaker 2: and the FBI will be used by Donald Trump to
Speaker 2: go after his political opponents, which is precisely which is
Speaker 2: exactly what Joe Biden and Barack Hussein Obama and Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris did for twelve twelve years after the political opponents
Speaker 2: of the Democrats. That's what they did, and panel grand juries,
Speaker 2: frighten people to death, and they did everything in their
Speaker 2: power to make sure Donald Trump was not eligible to
Speaker 2: run for the presidency. And it just didn't work out
Speaker 2: by timing wise, and the fact that Judge Chunkin couldn't
Speaker 2: get the defendant in front of her in time. The
Speaker 2: case that went first was the one in New York City.
Speaker 2: That was a joke, that was unbelievable to put that
Speaker 2: thing on trial, And at some point in the next
Speaker 2: six months, that entire thing will be reversed and Donald Trump,
Speaker 2: so to speak, will not be a convicted felon. He
Speaker 2: will be a free man, the victim of a political
Speaker 2: witch hunt that was started by the Democrats to go
Speaker 2: after Donald Trump, and so much more so, I kind
Speaker 2: of snickered. I snickered tonight watching Scott Pelly and his erudite,
Speaker 2: arrogant fashion talk about how Donald Trump is going to
Speaker 2: be a threat to democracy. Well, that's what I've been
Speaker 2: watching for the last eight to twelve years. As the
Speaker 2: Department of Justice went after Catholic churches, the Knights of Columbus,
Speaker 2: they went after parents and school board meetings, they went
Speaker 2: after grandmothers who prayed in front of abortion clinics. They
Speaker 2: weaponized the Department of Justice against their political opponents. Now
Speaker 2: that the shoe was on the other foot, from the
Speaker 2: left foot to the right foot. Now it's completely disreputable
Speaker 2: what Donald Trump seeks to do to get the truth out.
Speaker 2: And I do trust Palm Pam BONDI the new Attorney
Speaker 2: General and also the new FBI director, Cash Ptel, to
Speaker 2: do what's right within the law, and not to give
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton a free pass who bleach bit at her
Speaker 2: servers under a subpoena and took a jackhammer to him,
Speaker 2: and not to Joe Biden, who had classified materials when
Speaker 2: he wasn't the president as a senator at a VP
Speaker 2: and he couldn't be classify in different locations including his garage,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he wasn't mentally incompetent.
Speaker 3: Couldn't be prosecutor are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: That's what the Department of Justice did, and it's sick
Speaker 2: and it's sad. So I just I sat there a
Speaker 2: few hours ago and just be mused at the idea
Speaker 2: at sixty minutes was going to be the arbitrator of
Speaker 2: using the Department of Justice to go after one's political opponents,
Speaker 2: which is exactly what happened, exactly what happened to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: And also in a sense Richard Nixon, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to relate to gay Watergate. What he did in Watergate
Speaker 2: was wrong, but he did the same things politically that
Speaker 2: Democratic presidents including John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson
Speaker 2: had did repeatedly. He came out of that genre. But
Speaker 2: on one hand, you couldn't go after Kennedy obviously, and
Speaker 2: Johnson was a media favorite and media darling. So by
Speaker 2: the time he left office, and four years after he
Speaker 2: left office, he was dead, and it was simply thought
Speaker 2: that we'll go after the Republican. Richard Nixon in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy two got forty nine out of fifty states, had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with Watergate, but then he engaged in
Speaker 2: behavior to cover it up, which other president aident's Democrat
Speaker 2: and Republican they had done for decades. Doesn't make it right,
Speaker 2: but it makes it political. So get ready. It's going
Speaker 2: to be a rough ride this week. But a couple
Speaker 2: of things I want to bring it first and foremost.
Speaker 2: You know about my feelings about cops, about police officers,
Speaker 2: the thin blue line between democracy and anarchy, and we
Speaker 2: lost a few great ones the last few days. I'm
Speaker 2: watching TV on Friday night and I see that an
Speaker 2: old friend of mine is now the chief of police
Speaker 2: in Virginia Beach.
Speaker 3: His name is Paul Newdigate.
Speaker 2: He spent about twenty years as an assistant chief in
Speaker 2: the city of Cincinnati where I live. In broadcast from
Speaker 2: It's about the best there is. Chief Newdigate reported that
Speaker 2: two young officers were gunned down in the streets of
Speaker 2: Virginia Beach. I want you to know their names tonight,
Speaker 2: and before you go to bed tonight, I would like
Speaker 2: you to consider saying a silent prayer for the repose
Speaker 2: of the soul. A police officer Cameron Gerwin and twenty
Speaker 2: five years old, been on the forces for a couple
Speaker 2: of years, and also officer Christopher Reese, thirty years old.
Speaker 2: And Friday night, they were doing routine traffic patrol and
Speaker 2: they noticed an expired license plate of someone. They simply
Speaker 2: pulled the car over, which is happening tens of thousands
Speaker 2: of time every day, every night in America. And unbeknownst
Speaker 2: to them, there was a felon in that car within
Speaker 2: the legal gun in his possession. He had numerous felon convictions.
Speaker 2: His name was John McCoy. And they walked up the
Speaker 2: side of the car asked for as for the license,
Speaker 2: proof of insurance and registration. He didn't have it available
Speaker 2: because he didn't have one. Unbeknownst to them, they were
Speaker 2: a few seconds of being murdered. They told mister McCoy,
Speaker 2: John McCoy, you got to get out of the car.
Speaker 2: He refused to get out of the car. He finally
Speaker 2: was coursed to leave the vehicle. He gets out of
Speaker 2: the car and pulls out of his jacket pocket a
Speaker 2: pistol shoots both officers. Officers went down in the streets
Speaker 2: of Virginia Beach, and then he stood over both of
Speaker 2: them and shot them again and again, defenseless on the
Speaker 2: streets of Virginia Beach. And at this point the police
Speaker 2: convened on the site. He was located a couple hundred
Speaker 2: yards away in a shed hiding and there was a
Speaker 2: single gunshot wound administered to the side of his temple.
Speaker 2: And John McCoy right now is riding in hell with
Speaker 2: many others and these two officers. The funerals are going
Speaker 2: to be later this week, and just I will say
Speaker 2: a prayer of thanks for the sacrifice these men, these
Speaker 2: guys made on my behalf is the thin blue line
Speaker 2: betweent de marcros and anarchy, anarchy once again. It's Officer
Speaker 2: Cameron Gervin g I r v N, twenty five years
Speaker 2: old and Officer Christopher Reese, only thirty years old, murdered
Speaker 2: executed on the streets of Virginia Beach. Then, also about
Speaker 2: a day and a half ago, this has become an
Speaker 2: all too common event. There was a person who was
Speaker 2: angry about the medical care provided to a friend of his.
Speaker 2: They think that's the motive, but the police in York,
Speaker 2: PA are not exactly sure. Governor Shapiro did a fine
Speaker 2: news conference a couple of days ago, and there was
Speaker 2: a criminal named Diogenes Ortiz, forty nine years old who
Speaker 2: reported to the UPMC Memorial Hospital in York, Pennsylvania with
Speaker 2: zip ties and a weapon. He invaded the intensive care
Speaker 2: unit at the UPMC Memorial Hospital and the attacked targeted
Speaker 2: specific individuals who he perceived as being medical individuals who
Speaker 2: did not assist a friend of theirs.
Speaker 3: Of course, it's only been a couple.
Speaker 2: Of days, so actually why the motive might be not
Speaker 2: as clear as it will be in the future. But
Speaker 2: this man, this murderer, a zip tide, a couple nurses
Speaker 2: and doc targeting specific staff members who allegedly did not
Speaker 2: provide care to a friend of his. Officer Andrew Douart,
Speaker 2: very young cop, but he's been at it for about
Speaker 2: five or six years, ran toward the difficulties. Shots were
Speaker 2: fired and Officer Andrew Duhart was murdered inside the hospital
Speaker 2: and others were injured and wounded, but they will survive.
Speaker 2: But again, add Officer Andrew Douart to your list of
Speaker 2: a brave American who stepped forward. And this is a wave.
Speaker 2: When I went to a Google search on this, there
Speaker 2: has been an increase and that's why we have John
Speaker 2: Lott coming up later of political medical assassinations in which
Speaker 2: individuals seemingly are displeased with medical care, medical services, or
Speaker 2: the hospital industry or the healthcare business, and it taken
Speaker 2: upon themselves to kill individuals associated therein I'm HARKing back,
Speaker 2: of course, to what happened with Luigi Mangioni, the murderer
Speaker 2: of Brian Thompson on December the fourth, CEO United Healthcare.
Speaker 2: He's become a hero with some liberals because he represented
Speaker 2: insurance companies, and I would assume that these docs and
Speaker 2: these intensive care nurses represented what medical care for those
Speaker 2: in need. And so there's been a string of attacks,
Speaker 2: I think encouraged by some in the left wing media,
Speaker 2: as if this is justified. How many times have you
Speaker 2: heard the past three or four months that the murder
Speaker 2: of Brian Thompson was somehow justified. It was somehow justified
Speaker 2: because he was the CEO of You're Not of Healthcare,
Speaker 2: which is a for profit business operating within the laws
Speaker 2: of this country. And Luigi hunted him down, spent weeks
Speaker 2: planning it, executed him, shot him in the back like
Speaker 2: a coward, and as he died on the sidewalks of
Speaker 2: New York the murderer Luigi made his way was finally
Speaker 2: captured three or four days later at of McDonald's in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: It's sad, and of course this is the date before
Speaker 2: I get in the essence of today's remarks, which is
Speaker 2: the date that my father spent time in Iwajima. It
Speaker 2: was exactly eighty years ago today, on February twenty third,
Speaker 2: nineteen forty five, that six brave Marines raised the American
Speaker 2: flag on Ewajima's Mount Sarabaci in commemoration of the fact
Speaker 2: that after several weeks of fighting, vicious, cruel, unbelievable violence
Speaker 2: inflicted upon American Marines and others by Japanese devendors, that
Speaker 2: this was a circumstance where it was thought, okay, let's
Speaker 2: wave the American flag, which will rally the troops, and
Speaker 2: fighting continued for about another about another.
Speaker 3: Two or three weeks.
Speaker 2: At the end of the battle, which is things turned
Speaker 2: out because of Rosia Mo Nagasaki probably did not have
Speaker 2: to take place at all. It was going to be
Speaker 2: a landing strip to be used in the future in
Speaker 2: nineteen forty six for the assault on the Japanese mainland.
Speaker 2: But at that point in March, in February and March
Speaker 2: of nineteen forty five was uncertain the ending of the war,
Speaker 2: and so at that point there were seven thousand Marines killed.
Speaker 2: There were another fourteen thousand marines injured. The dead on
Speaker 2: the evil side, the Japanese Imperial Army side was immense.
Speaker 2: Out of all the twenty eight thousand defenders of You
Speaker 2: with Jimma, only about one hundred and seventy five Japanese
Speaker 2: soldiers remain. They killed themselves or in waves of attacks
Speaker 2: on American marines would be killed. And that brings up
Speaker 2: the whole concept I think of unconditional surrender. The only
Speaker 2: way to win a war is to fight it all out,
Speaker 2: and to win there is no substitute for victory. I
Speaker 2: recall the great scene of Georgie Patten and the movie
Speaker 2: Patent Late and I think sixty eight or sixty nine,
Speaker 2: in which he said, I won't use the B word
Speaker 2: referring to a childless, a child without a known father,
Speaker 2: but he said, American soldiers will win this war not
Speaker 2: because they're going to die for their country, because they
Speaker 2: make the enemy die for their country. And America won
Speaker 2: that war with unconditional surrender of the Germans, the Italians,
Speaker 2: the Austrians, and of course the Japanese unconditional surrender. It
Speaker 2: was thought, okay, let's have some plan here, let's do
Speaker 2: something to have some conditional surrender. And whoever was in charge,
Speaker 2: whether it was FDR or was Harry S. Truman, he said, no,
Speaker 2: it's unconditional surrender. We occupy your island, we occupy your homeland.
Speaker 2: We will prosecute this thing until total victory. I'm getting
Speaker 2: to a point here about Israel, and the fact is
Speaker 2: that when the existence of this country was at stake,
Speaker 2: what did we do? Did we have conditional surrender? Did
Speaker 2: we not use everything in our power, in our prestige
Speaker 2: to save this country, which I consider to be God's
Speaker 2: representative on Earth, of course not We firebombed Dresden one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand civilians. We leveled every German city, killing millions
Speaker 2: and millions of innocent men, women and children. In a
Speaker 2: sense they were Germans. They weren't in the battle, but
Speaker 2: they were Germans. They were part of the effort. And
Speaker 2: when it came time to go after Japan that viciously
Speaker 2: killed about two thousand of our citizens of Pear Harbor
Speaker 2: on the summer of the seventh nineteen forty one, there
Speaker 2: wasn't much outcry of using too much force against the
Speaker 2: nation's enemy, that that is, the nation of Japan, and
Speaker 2: did everything in their power to make the Japanese surrender
Speaker 2: ahead of time before the two bombs were dropped on
Speaker 2: August the sixth and August the ninth, nineteen forty five,
Speaker 2: on Hiroshima and then Nagasaki, and the words of the
Speaker 2: Emperor Hirohito were heard for the first time over a
Speaker 2: broadcast provided by the American military forces to tell his
Speaker 2: Japanese people to surrender.
Speaker 3: That's it, it's over.
Speaker 2: And then we occupied the island, We occupied German and
Speaker 2: we won.
Speaker 3: We won.
Speaker 2: They lost total war, and every means necessary We brought
Speaker 2: the war. They wanted war, We brought it. But we've
Speaker 2: not really won a war since nineteen forty five because
Speaker 2: civilization would not allow it to occur. When I spent
Speaker 2: time in Israel, their existence is at stake. Just a
Speaker 2: few days ago, there was a plan to blow up
Speaker 2: five buses and trains packed with Israelis on their way
Speaker 2: to work. Sadly, someone put in the wrong time of
Speaker 2: the timer on the bombs on the buses and the trains.
Speaker 2: Instead of having go off at nine am Tel Aviv time,
Speaker 2: it was nine pm and that was the default, and
Speaker 2: they miscueued the time of the bombs.
Speaker 3: To go off.
Speaker 2: They intended to kill literally thousands and thousands of Jews
Speaker 2: every chance they get.
Speaker 3: What do they do? They kill Jews?
Speaker 2: And so much like America in nineteen forty five, we must,
Speaker 2: as supporters of Israel, encourage Benjamin Netanyahu to have unconditional
Speaker 2: surrender of a moss has Blat in Iran and end
Speaker 2: this war once and for all. Let's continue with more.
Speaker 2: Will set up more later on Bill cunning In The
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Speaker 2: Him the Great American. Let's set up tonight's big show.
Speaker 2: We've scheduled. They have you and I join us tonight.
Speaker 2: Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform. He's so pleased
Speaker 2: he can't stand it anymore about what's happening to the
Speaker 2: American economy. Also John Lott, former Deputy Attorney General under
Speaker 2: Donald Trump on the first ideation about what's going to
Speaker 2: happen now is that there will be more reporting of
Speaker 2: crimes committed instead of prosecutions, because, as you know, the
Speaker 2: last of four years, every time you turn on the
Speaker 2: mainstream media, they would tell you, you know what, crime is down.
Speaker 3: Crime is down.
Speaker 2: No, no arrest are down, indictments are down. But actually
Speaker 2: crime is up. Crime in America, as you know, is up.
Speaker 2: It's demonstrated by the few remarks I made the beginning
Speaker 2: about the killing of so many police officers and killing
Speaker 2: of those involved in the medical industry. When the expectations
Speaker 2: are one thing, the reality is another. They have someone
Speaker 2: in made intensive care unit at a major hospital in York, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: and to take hostage doctors and nurses, and then to
Speaker 2: have a police officer murdered in the process, that the
Speaker 2: murderer killed an innocent police officer, particularly discussing let's continue
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Speaker 3: It kind of came lust about an hour ago.
Speaker 2: One of the individuals in podcasting and talk radio I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed listening to other than the great one Mark Levin,
Speaker 2: of course and Jean Hannity, was the great Dan Bongino.
Speaker 2: It was announced about an hour or so ago by
Speaker 2: President Trump that Dan Bongino has agreed to join him
Speaker 2: as deputy director of the FBI under a course Cash Patel,
Speaker 2: both those are friends. I knew that Dan spent about
Speaker 2: ten or twelve years in the Secret Service. He spent
Speaker 2: about ten years in the New York Police Department, also
Speaker 2: a close friend of Cash. Patel just confirmed to sworn
Speaker 2: in I think on Thursday or Friday, and he's going
Speaker 2: to be number two at the FBI. So imagine where
Speaker 2: we were a couple months, a couple of three months
Speaker 2: ago with Christopher Ray heading up the FBI, admittedly filing
Speaker 2: false affidavis with the Pviza court, green lighting lies about
Speaker 2: the so called Russian collusion delusion and also the Hunter
Speaker 2: Biden laptop, all that stuff, and now in charge of
Speaker 2: the FBI, it's Cash battel and I think Jay Egor
Speaker 2: Hoover would be rolling over in his grave. And also
Speaker 2: Dan Bongino will be appointed deputy director. And stories don't
Speaker 2: indicate whether he must be confirmed by the Senate, but
Speaker 2: I think he probably does. And this is the latest
Speaker 2: sign that Trump has committed to cleaning house at the
Speaker 2: FBI that needs it badly. And he'll report directly to
Speaker 2: Pam Bondi Director of National Intelligence Telsea Gabbert, of course
Speaker 2: through Cash. Pttel who will be now is the head
Speaker 2: of the FBI. And Patel had experiences in a lawyer,
Speaker 2: high ranking official. Bongino has practical law enforcement experience, former
Speaker 2: Secret Service and Secret Service, former police officer and an agent.
Speaker 2: In fact, I see a lot of video of Dan
Speaker 2: Bongino protecting Barack Hussein Obama, and I have people like
Speaker 2: this in charge of the FBI, sending a message that
Speaker 2: the core mission must be returned to the rank and
Speaker 2: file of the FBI. It can't be a political organization
Speaker 2: as it's been for the past fifteen or twenty years.
Speaker 2: And despite the protestations of sixty minutes in Scott Pelly tonight,
Speaker 2: the FBI the last ten to twenty years has been
Speaker 2: a political organization persecuting Republicans and giving Democrats free passes everywhere,
Speaker 2: most famously in twenty sixteen when James Comy kind of
Speaker 2: admitted that Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State and first Lady,
Speaker 2: committed numerous serious felonies, but of course no jury in Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. Would convict her because she's a woman and
Speaker 2: she's a Democrat. I guess that's the standard, right. I
Speaker 2: don't think Dan Bongino and cash Pttel will be given
Speaker 2: to those standards. And so despite the arguments of sixty
Speaker 2: minutes tonight, the FBI is in better hands they've been
Speaker 2: in a while. And one thing that kind of irritates
Speaker 2: me is whenever a Republican does something, they are criticized
Speaker 2: many times on racial grounds or ecumenical grounds of one
Speaker 2: type or another. In this case, when I look at
Speaker 2: the cabinet of Donald Trump, it is very diverse. Given
Speaker 2: no credit, I can't recall I googled this the compliments
Speaker 2: for the diversity of the Trump cabinet. Is there a
Speaker 2: story out there available to be told by other than
Speaker 2: Joy Reid, who's now out of MSNBC. By the way,
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio is the first Hispanic to head up our
Speaker 2: Foreign Service Secretary of State's office. Marco Rubio, who was
Speaker 2: unanimously confirmed by the Senate. Hispanic. Susie Wiles Pat Summer
Speaker 2: Awl is the daughter is the presidential chief of Staff,
Speaker 2: the first female chief of staff in Washington, d C. History.
Speaker 2: The head of the Treasury is Scott Bissett. He's a
Speaker 2: multi billionaire, a friend of Donald Trump, but he's also gay.
Speaker 2: And normally when a person has professed as being a
Speaker 2: gay person, in the media's eyes, that's a compliment. But
Speaker 2: you'll never see any credit given to Donald Trump for
Speaker 2: apporting Scott Bissett the Treasury. Or Rick Grenell been on
Speaker 2: my show several times. He's the envoy to get hostages
Speaker 2: freed in Venezuela and elsewhere, and he's going to head
Speaker 2: up the so called relief efforts in Pacific Palisades in California.
Speaker 2: And he's saying early on Rick Grnell is saying, Look,
Speaker 2: I may run, I may run for a governor. If
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris announces that she's going to run for governor
Speaker 2: because we can't take it anymore. Throw on top of
Speaker 2: all that. Scott Turner, who's African American, great football player
Speaker 2: at HUD. Throw on top of that Bobby Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Serving in a Republican administration Health and Human Services? You
Speaker 2: talk about a cabinet. Throw on top of that. Cash Betel,
Speaker 2: director of the FBI, and now Dan Bongino. It's the
Speaker 2: it's fabulous, it's wonderful. Look at it. Throw on top
Speaker 2: of that Pete Hegseth that he's not Lloyd Austin, who
Speaker 2: needs to lose about one hundred pounds, who won a wall,
Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense, who was with Raytheon for years, cashed
Speaker 2: out his tickets as a four star, went to Raytheon
Speaker 2: a defense contractor, made millions and millions of dollars in
Speaker 2: this lobbyist, came back to become Secretary of Defense. Did
Speaker 2: the media cover it that way? I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth got buyed by the skin of his teeth.
Speaker 2: I think he was at fifty was it fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty to forty maybe fifty to forty eight. He just
Speaker 2: barely got through because of the vote of JD.
Speaker 3: Vance.
Speaker 2: So I kind of look at what's going on here,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking this is fabulous. So the vote on
Speaker 2: Hegseth was fifty to fifty and then JD Vance broke it.
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful thing to watch a diverse, bright, intelligent
Speaker 2: committeed cabinet wanting to do the bidding of the elected
Speaker 2: president who won the parality of votes and he got
Speaker 2: seventy seven million votes. Donald Trump did seventy seven million.
Speaker 2: And I still have my doubts about twenty twenty. How
Speaker 2: Joe Biden got eighty one million votes, which is sixteen
Speaker 2: million more votes than Barack Hussein Obama, which is four
Speaker 2: million more votes than Donald Trump got in this election.
Speaker 2: Somehow sleepy Joe got eighty one million votes. I have
Speaker 2: my doubts, but nonetheless, this is good news. Dan Bongino
Speaker 2: is leaving the world of talk. He's going to give
Speaker 2: up his podcast and his talk radio duties and he's
Speaker 2: going to go work for the president because he has
Speaker 2: that calling. So for the fans of Dan Gino, it's
Speaker 2: a loss for the country. It is my view a
Speaker 2: great gain now page two. I sound like Paul Harvey,
Speaker 2: good day. And that is this that America's existence as
Speaker 2: a nation has been challenged once or twice in American history,
Speaker 2: and each time it was challenged, America went to war,
Speaker 2: unconditional war, unconditional surrender. The first time, you may think
Speaker 2: it was the War of eighteen twelve when the bridge
Speaker 2: burned down, burned the Capitol in the White House. In fact,
Speaker 2: when I went to the I had some friendship with
Speaker 2: Nuke ingrig and he showed me the bloodstains on the
Speaker 2: marble steps of the Capitol in which individuals were defending
Speaker 2: the capitol against the burning of the capitol. But there
Speaker 2: was a sense even in eighteen fifteen that there was
Speaker 2: not going to be the taking over of America by
Speaker 2: the Brits. In eighteen sixty one, absolutely America went to
Speaker 2: a total war North versus the South. The South for Democrats,
Speaker 2: and the Democrats wanted to secede from the Union. Abraham Lincoln,
Speaker 2: a Republican, said nah babanah, nah babanah, No, we'll go
Speaker 2: to war. So the South started the war by firing
Speaker 2: on Fort Sumter. It took about two years for Abe
Speaker 2: Lincoln to find Ulysses S. Grant, and it was total war,
Speaker 2: using all the armaments available in the eighteen sixties, resulting
Speaker 2: in six hundred thousand deaths minimum in the North and
Speaker 2: the South, and the Confederacy the Democrats were defeated, Slavery
Speaker 2: was gone. Abraham Lincoln then was killed April the thirteenth
Speaker 2: of eighteen sixty five, and then President Johnson took over
Speaker 2: from Tennessee and the rest is history. But there was
Speaker 2: a chance that America would not exist if the Confederacy
Speaker 2: had won the war and they would have seceded from
Speaker 2: the Union. They would have tried to get the Western
Speaker 2: States to join their way of thinking. The country would
Speaker 2: have been on the wrong track in the country wouldn't
Speaker 2: have existed. In nineteen forty one, America went to a
Speaker 2: total war, and it began, of course, with the attack
Speaker 2: on Pearl Harbor. But then for the next almost four
Speaker 2: years America had added We used every means in our method.
Speaker 2: We firebombed and carpet bomb the European cities and Japanese cities.
Speaker 2: They wanted war, and we gave it to them. And
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. There was some thought
Speaker 2: that maybe in Japan we should not demand unconditional surrender,
Speaker 2: but that was quickly dispatched at that point by Harry S.
Speaker 2: Truman and said, no unconditional surrender, there are no terms.
Speaker 2: There was a time in Upomattox when General Lee, meeting
Speaker 2: with Ulysses, asked Grant wanted the terms of this surrender.
Speaker 2: What kind of terms would you like, Ulysses asked. Grant
Speaker 2: looked at him by the way from the state of Ohio,
Speaker 2: and said, unconditional surrender. What do you mean? And there
Speaker 2: was no doubt that when the existence of the nation
Speaker 2: is at risk, the first thing that must do is
Speaker 2: have unconditional surrender. We win, you lose.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: I have a great fear tonight, this Sunday night, that
Speaker 2: Israel will not be frommitted to have a total victory
Speaker 2: over the forces of darkness and evil. We see with
Speaker 2: Hesbla Hamas the youthis and also what's happening in Iran.
Speaker 2: I have a sense that Boca Haram or Isis whatever
Speaker 2: it might be, could be dispatched quickly by the Israeli military.
Speaker 2: There's no explanation I think up to this point for
Speaker 2: Israel's behavior. If America's existence was at stake as a nation,
Speaker 2: what would we do. We would fight like warrior poets.
Speaker 2: We would fire bomb and carpetbamb Americans foreign cities. We
Speaker 2: would call up twelve million more Army, Navy, Air Force personnel,
Speaker 2: and we would fight like warrior poets to save this country.
Speaker 2: Israel has been constrained for so long, not able to
Speaker 2: win the war. We have not won a war in
Speaker 2: a sense since nineteen forty five. Korea was a halfway deal.
Speaker 2: Vietnam was a loss, Iraq was a loss, Afghanistan was
Speaker 2: a loss. We participate in wars, but we don't win them.
Speaker 2: In the case of Israel, they do not have a
Speaker 2: choice because their existence is at stake. What we did
Speaker 2: in Korea, what we did in Vietnam, what we did
Speaker 2: in Iraq, what we did in Afghanistan, the existence of
Speaker 2: our country was not at stake, so we pussy footed
Speaker 2: around and didn't win any of those wars. One might
Speaker 2: say Korea War was a halfway victory, and that's it.
Speaker 2: We had the power to destroy North Korea and to
Speaker 2: oppose our will on them, but we failed to do so,
Speaker 2: and ever since then, that is the template. In Israel's case,
Speaker 2: They're in a completely different circumstance. Would you agree. When
Speaker 2: I spent time in Israel about two years ago, I
Speaker 2: saw a functioning Western style democracy. I saw churches in Jerusalem.
Speaker 2: I saw churches Catholic churches in Tel Aviv. I saw
Speaker 2: Muslim facilities all over the place. I saw Jewish ideations
Speaker 2: all over the place. I saw a country with about
Speaker 2: six million Jews and about four million others who aren't
Speaker 2: Jews but live in peace in Israel. I saw border
Speaker 2: crossings in which every day twenty to thirty thousand Palestinians
Speaker 2: would go from Gaza or the West Bank into Israel
Speaker 2: to work in return. I saw it constantly. I saw
Speaker 2: functioning of functioning Western style democracy, with women and girls
Speaker 2: having rights, with educational facilities, with first class medical care,
Speaker 2: with a farming community second to none, and a high
Speaker 2: tech industry that was growing. And I saw, because of
Speaker 2: the Abraham Accords, a nation ready to be accepted in
Speaker 2: the Middle East as a functioning democracy in which Palestinians
Speaker 2: live in peace inside Israel. How is it possible that
Speaker 2: about twenty percent of the Kanessant is governed by Arab Muslims,
Speaker 2: and that's the governing power inside Israel. That's the way
Speaker 2: they It is a Western style democracy. It's unfortunate that
Speaker 2: the fact of life is what Israel has been doing
Speaker 2: up to this point will not win the war. In war,
Speaker 2: there is no substitute for victory. The existence of Israel
Speaker 2: is at stake. If the forces of evil in the
Speaker 2: Middle East had the same military power of Israel, and
Speaker 2: Israel had the power of Lebanon or Jordan or Egypt,
Speaker 2: guess what Israel would not exist. And right now someone's
Speaker 2: got to decide, maybe it's Netsan Yahu or others. We
Speaker 2: must win this war and do what is necessary to win.
Speaker 2: War is terrible, War is brutal. War is particularly unkind
Speaker 2: to innocent men, women and children. It is awful. But
Speaker 2: as indicated about it four or five days ago, via
Speaker 2: those five bus bombs that were planned, no one got
Speaker 2: hurt because one of the Hamas terrorists put the wrong
Speaker 2: timing mechanism at nine pm instead of nine am. If
Speaker 2: it had gone off as intended, there would have been
Speaker 2: dozens or hundreds more Jews killed. This will go on
Speaker 2: and on and on until Hamas and has failed to exist,
Speaker 2: until Iran is on its back. There is no substitute
Speaker 2: for victory except the unconditional surrender. Any military power on
Speaker 2: Earth that had just suffered the losses of Hesbla and
Speaker 2: a Moss at the hands of the IDF would say,
Speaker 2: at this point, we give in, we quit. Did you
Speaker 2: see the smiling faces of hundreds or a few thousand
Speaker 2: of a Moss and their supporters handing over the bodies
Speaker 2: of that proud mother eventually and then the two little
Speaker 2: babies that were brutally murdered at the hands of a
Speaker 2: Moss literally using their hands. To me, it is unbelievable
Speaker 2: what happened to Israel and how restraint they have shown
Speaker 2: because until October, until the attack in October. On October seventh,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, it was the largest attack in Israel
Speaker 2: since nineteen forty eight, since that war. A little known fact,
Speaker 2: there were about four thousand rockets fired in the twenty
Speaker 2: one Jewish communities. There were hundreds of paragliders, well armed,
Speaker 2: hype up on drugs, who flew into twenty one different
Speaker 2: Jewish communities. About six thousand Hamas attackers were involved, including
Speaker 2: thousands of Palestinians themselves living in gossip. There were about
Speaker 2: twenty one hundred Jews murdered and about two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty hostages taken. Not just murdered, children were raped, babies
Speaker 2: were beheaded, women went through a living hell watching their
Speaker 2: husband and or children being burned at a steak. They
Speaker 2: were tortured, extremities who were severed from bodies. Cheryl Sandberg,
Speaker 2: who was with the Facebook and Google, documented much of
Speaker 2: this and a documentary she did. It is truly unbelievable
Speaker 2: the brutality that Hamas showed toward the Jews in this contemptible,
Speaker 2: unprovoked attack that killed over two thousand Jews. The more
Speaker 2: Jews died in one day that since the Holocaust, and
Speaker 2: we just went through the commemoration of the opening the
Speaker 2: rescuing of thousands of Jews in Auschwitz a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago. And when you're in a war for your survivability,
Speaker 2: the last thing you can do is be measured in
Speaker 2: your response. One can only imagine a nineteen forty five,
Speaker 2: say in February or March of nineteen forty five, if
Speaker 2: someone would have said FDR was on his last legs,
Speaker 2: then he died in April. I think April the twelfth,
Speaker 2: nineteen forty five, that why don't we sue for peace
Speaker 2: with Germany? This is getting too brutal. We're killing too
Speaker 2: many civilians, they're killing Ourgis, we're killing theirs. How about
Speaker 2: doing a government in Munich or in Bond whatever, and
Speaker 2: we'll let Adolf Hitler or hers or his progenies they
Speaker 2: involved governing Germany. Would anyone even think about such a thought?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not if someone would have said, well, in Japan
Speaker 2: in nineteen July nineteen forty five, let's sue for peace.
Speaker 2: Let's not obliterate Japan. And we can't have that. Israel
Speaker 2: must act as if there's survival is at stake. Fair
Speaker 2: to do so, We'll have terrible consequences as we continue.
Speaker 2: I'll have some setting up the rest of tonight's show.
Speaker 2: Once again, Israel must win this war by any means necessary.
Speaker 2: Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. I can only
Speaker 2: imagine that after cash Bettel was sworn in on Friday,
Speaker 2: that his first call was to his friend Dan Bongino
Speaker 2: to join him as deputy director of the research. I've
Speaker 2: just went through quickly indicated it has not Senate confirmed.
Speaker 2: That means Dan Bongino can start work on Monday or
Speaker 2: so getting the FBI back under control. Despite the protestations
Speaker 2: of Scott Pelley at sixty minutes tonight, the FBI now
Speaker 2: will be under control. When it was not under control
Speaker 2: for the last fifteen or twenty years. One couldnot have
Speaker 2: imagined an FBI doing its job by investigating the Catholic
Speaker 2: Knights of Columbus or telling those who go to a
Speaker 2: Latin mass or possible domestic terrorist, the Catholics that worship
Speaker 2: the God, the true God is somehow they're un American.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine the FBI for years telling parents the
Speaker 2: school board meetings, don't voice your opinion, We're going to
Speaker 2: investigate you. A good FBI agent would have said, look
Speaker 2: that the Russian collusion delusion is a farce and it's
Speaker 2: a joke, and we know it's a joke, and we're
Speaker 2: not going to pursue that one. They would not submit
Speaker 2: false affidavits to affisee a court, for example. That's all
Speaker 2: the FBI has done at the top level, not at
Speaker 2: the rank and file, of course in cities like Cincinnati
Speaker 2: or Detroit or Miami, but at the FBI, the high level.
Speaker 2: It's a terrible circumstance, and Scott Pelley should be told
Speaker 2: that what he's seeking to have Donald Trump not do
Speaker 2: has already been.
Speaker 3: Done by the Democrats. Let's continue with more. Go Cunningham
Speaker 3: with you every Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best,
Speaker 1: the recipient of not one but two prestigious Marconi Awards
Speaker 1: for his broadcast excellence, the one and only Bill Cunningham.
Speaker 2: By Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Of course, the American
Speaker 2: renaissances underway. It's beginning in the first thirty days normally
Speaker 2: accounted president, it's the first one hundred days. It seems
Speaker 2: like he's been president for the last one hundred days.
Speaker 2: Has only been a little more than thirty five days,
Speaker 2: and it's getting bigger and better than ever before.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I know he's in a good place when sixty minutes
Speaker 2: attacks him. But nonetheless, Scott Powell is with the Discovery Institute.
Speaker 2: He's also a member of the Committee on the President
Speaker 2: Danger China and a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute.
Speaker 2: His timeless book was Rediscovering America, the number one Amazon
Speaker 2: bestseller for about eight weeks. And of course last week
Speaker 2: was President's Day, and I watched some of the media
Speaker 2: going crazy, thinking, you know, what what we ought to
Speaker 2: do is get rid of President's Day because we might
Speaker 2: might be honoring Donald Trump, and which is not exactly
Speaker 2: the case. And Scott Powell, welcome again to the Bill
Speaker 2: Cunningham Show. And first of all, your colin, which is
Speaker 2: at townhall dot com, is a great one. And this
Speaker 2: one talks about the President's Day, et cetera. And it says,
Speaker 2: among other things, that reflections on Washington, Lincoln, and Trump
Speaker 2: on President's Day. And you link Trump with George Washington,
Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln, I would say Ronald Reagan. His portrait is
Speaker 2: with the President over his left shoulder. Tell me why
Speaker 2: you write such things about Donald Trump?
Speaker 5: Well, Uh, each is very different, and but there are
Speaker 5: qualities of character that linked these three people.
Speaker 6: And and there.
Speaker 5: The three things that I think are important are faith, courage,
Speaker 5: and persistence. And of course you know Washington, Uh was
Speaker 5: shot at in the French and Indian Warrior had four
Speaker 5: bullet holes through his uniform. But a bullet didn't didn't
Speaker 5: even put a scratch in his body.
Speaker 3: Uh, And that.
Speaker 6: Gave that that that changed him.
Speaker 5: You know, he knew that it was protected by God,
Speaker 5: and that gave him great courage. Trump's same story. He
Speaker 5: knows that it was God's protection that prevented him from
Speaker 5: being assassinated in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6: That that and he's a changed man. And uh, he
Speaker 6: has incredible courage.
Speaker 5: And and then the third quality that both these people
Speaker 5: have as persistence.
Speaker 6: They just don't stop. They never give up.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we were outgunned, out maneuvered, outfunded,
Speaker 5: out trained in the War of Independence against the greatest
Speaker 5: military power in the world, that's Great Britain. But how
Speaker 5: did we win. Well, we lost more battles than we won,
Speaker 5: you know, George Washington lost more than he won. But
Speaker 5: in the end, we defeated them at Yorktown. And they thought,
Speaker 5: after six years, you know, we can't beat these people.
Speaker 5: They're never going to give up, and so they just
Speaker 5: they built it. You know, it's done.
Speaker 6: To surrender. We'll call it a day.
Speaker 2: So one of the things you say in your column,
Speaker 2: which I think is beautiful, is that Washington and Lincoln
Speaker 2: agreed that America's greatest threat to national survival would come
Speaker 2: from within rather than some military invasion. And when jd
Speaker 2: Vance about ten days ago at the Munich Security Conference,
Speaker 2: and I think Germany is now turning to conservatism again.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless he said to the Germans what had to
Speaker 2: be said about Germany from within, not from without America.
Speaker 2: It applies so starkly that when I watch what's happening
Speaker 2: in our major cities. I look at what was going
Speaker 2: on on the southern border, the northern border. I look
Speaker 2: at our trade deficit with China was a trillion dollars
Speaker 2: a year. I can't have faed them a trillion dollars.
Speaker 2: I look at perhaps entities taking away the US dollar
Speaker 2: as a reserve currency, and I look at all that,
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking, my God, were we in trouble? And
Speaker 2: I think, as God's representative on Earth is United States
Speaker 2: of America. And if we fall, no one's going to
Speaker 2: be left to pick us up. No one's going to
Speaker 2: come to our assistance. That were the one indispensable power.
Speaker 2: So what is it about Donald Trump that makes you
Speaker 2: say that he recognizes the enemy is from within?
Speaker 6: Well, that was his experience.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think when he was elected in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 5: the first time, I think, you know, he'd come from business,
Speaker 5: he really didn't understand the dark side of politics so well.
Speaker 6: He was always a good deal maker.
Speaker 5: He could get he could get along with the opposition
Speaker 5: in his in his private life in business.
Speaker 6: But boy, when he uh, when when he had.
Speaker 5: Uh was elected to be president of the United States,
Speaker 5: people that he thought were going to cooperate and help
Speaker 5: him be his friends betrayed him. And uh, he had
Speaker 5: a you know, he he had a very tough four years.
Speaker 5: And what's so interesting. One thing that I say in
Speaker 5: that article that I think you know, many others missed
Speaker 5: was that was there was a bigger thing about God's
Speaker 5: intervention in American life, uh, that that Trump is associated with.
Speaker 5: You know, Trump felt very strongly that he was that
Speaker 5: that the voting irregular, the vote fraud prevented him from
Speaker 5: getting uh, you know, getting a second term. That he
Speaker 5: he won the election, but it was denied him because
Speaker 5: of vote fraud, and he was determined to turn that around.
Speaker 5: He asked people to come to Washington on January sixth,
Speaker 5: and you know and make their voices be known that
Speaker 5: if there were questionable electors, if the electoral College vote
Speaker 5: wasn't you know they didn't sit right in about sixteen
Speaker 5: station knows there were sixteen states that had questions, and
Speaker 5: that they should send it back to the state and
Speaker 5: then do a forensic type audit. But in any case,
Speaker 5: he was fighting to have his second term. But you
Speaker 5: know what God said. God knew that it would be
Speaker 5: better if he was denied a second term, and that
Speaker 5: he reflect on his first term. He learned the terran
Speaker 5: he learned more about the enemy, and then American people
Speaker 5: would also be subject to a horrible Biden administration, deep
Speaker 5: state administration. And so it was that he had a
Speaker 5: second term he skipped and his and look how successful
Speaker 5: his his leadership is now. It's remarkable if he had
Speaker 5: if he'd had a consecutive term, he would not have
Speaker 5: accomplished what he's accomplished now.
Speaker 2: He had to go through a forging, a foundry process
Speaker 2: in which he became harder than blue steel. And if
Speaker 2: he were to roll it into his second term, it
Speaker 2: would have been like, well, h every day that passed,
Speaker 2: what would be the end of him? But now I
Speaker 2: have a sense the whole city's energized. Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: Is energized to do something great, whether it's Scott Bissett
Speaker 2: or Scott Turner or Marco Rubio, as Susie Wiles or
Speaker 2: Rick Granell. And I have a sense, Pete Hegseth that
Speaker 2: whole crew would not have been available if he would
Speaker 2: have won the second term when he did, when he
Speaker 2: lost it, it would have been completely different. So when
Speaker 2: you say God's hand, when I say God's representative on Earth,
Speaker 2: the United States of America, he can see the future
Speaker 2: of the president of the past. He knows what's going
Speaker 2: to happen, and he allowed this to transpire. So Donald
Speaker 2: Trump would be hardened by the enemies and freedom of liberty.
Speaker 2: And right now we have a warrior in the White
Speaker 2: House that would not have been there in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5: That's right, That's that's the point I made though. But see,
Speaker 5: but Trump was fighting for it, he wanted it, he
Speaker 5: wanted it, but the hidden hand of Gods that nope, nope.
Speaker 6: It's not right. You're going to have it your second term.
Speaker 5: But you're gonna, we're gonna, we're going to give you
Speaker 5: four years to prepare and we're going to get the
Speaker 5: American people to have four years of suffering so that
Speaker 5: the that the vote for you is overwhelming.
Speaker 3: Let me share with your permission.
Speaker 2: You and I texted about two or three days ago,
Speaker 2: and I texted you the word boot it instead of
Speaker 2: book it. And we set up the interview and then
Speaker 2: I said, okay, boot it, and then I said book it.
Speaker 2: And then you say this to me, Well, I kind
Speaker 2: of liked your instructions to boot it. Boot corruption out
Speaker 2: of the US government, Boot the global cabal, Boot the
Speaker 2: deep state democrats, Boot the illegal aliens, Boot eighty percent
Speaker 2: out of the federal government. Boot the CCP China out
Speaker 2: of Panama, and boot them out of the Western hemisphere.
Speaker 2: Boot the Chinese out of US farmland, Boot the UN
Speaker 2: out of New York.
Speaker 3: And that's just a start. So explain.
Speaker 2: And I read that and I said, that's a pretty
Speaker 2: good starting point for the interview. Boot corruption. I look
Speaker 2: at the US eight I guess as an example. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's one percent or less than the budget, but it's
Speaker 2: in place to hide certain democratic individuals. And secondly, it
Speaker 2: spreads this virus that transgenderism around the world. So why
Speaker 2: is it important to eliminate USA it except for those
Speaker 2: programs like having African kids not get polio. Absolutely, if
Speaker 2: someone is suffering from HIV somewhere, okay, but that's not
Speaker 2: what USA does.
Speaker 3: And what's happening now is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Explain when you say boot the corruption, can you identify
Speaker 2: all the corruption or just some of it?
Speaker 5: Oh? There is so much. There is so much corruption.
Speaker 5: Really have at least three sort of a nexus of corruption.
Speaker 5: We have the military industrial complex, We have the medical
Speaker 5: pharmaceutical industrial complex, and then we have the the media
Speaker 5: high tech information complex.
Speaker 6: And there are others, but those are those are.
Speaker 5: Three that have really, you know, corrupted the proper functioning
Speaker 5: of our governments. And it's really and it's denied the
Speaker 5: American people, you know, the information that they've needed to
Speaker 5: understand what's going on.
Speaker 3: And we live in the information age.
Speaker 2: And I guess this week or next Pete Hexsa's going
Speaker 2: to take a chainsaw to much of the US military,
Speaker 2: which is full of fat and flab. And I think
Speaker 2: you spend nine hundred billion dollars in the military, You
Speaker 2: would have thought Republicans would hold the military sank or
Speaker 2: sank as we do. But that does is does not
Speaker 2: mean that we need seven hundred and fifty military bases
Speaker 2: in one hundred and fifty different countries all over the world.
Speaker 2: We don't need that. In other words, it needs to
Speaker 2: be lethal, it doesn't need to need to be bureaucratic.
Speaker 2: I think that's the points hech Seth is making.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean, what a change we've gone from Lloyd
Speaker 5: Austin fat Lloyd Austin that couldn't even do a push
Speaker 5: up to Pete Hayfath, which is out there in the
Speaker 5: parking lot of the Pentagon going through disguise's I mean
Speaker 5: incredible change. And he's you know, he has the experience,
Speaker 5: frontline experience, many many years of serving on the front line.
Speaker 5: You couldn't ask for a better of secret fary of events.
Speaker 5: And he's really a wonderful man. I've met him personally.
Speaker 5: He is he has all the qualities that are going
Speaker 5: to enable the military to really turn itself around.
Speaker 6: Under his leadership. I think the military will be very strong.
Speaker 2: What we now knew, our tax money has been looted,
Speaker 2: stolen and wasted. Politicians go in they make no more
Speaker 2: than one hundred and sixty thousand dollars a year, and
Speaker 2: after spending half their money in taxes and half that
Speaker 2: money and living in two different places. Nancy Pelosi comes
Speaker 2: out with three hundred million dollars. Mitch McConnell, who's lost
Speaker 2: his way completely, is now worth a one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: You have all these individuals that are basically living in
Speaker 2: two expensive places coming out of public service with hundreds
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. We've been looted, stolen, and wasted,
Speaker 2: and the President's going to go after the irs. I
Speaker 2: love the idea of the External Revenue Service to find
Speaker 2: out where the money is owed to us. All over
Speaker 2: the world owes us money. But secondly, you have a
Speaker 2: great interest in CCP, the Chinese Communist Party. Unlike the
Speaker 2: USSR of old, they were supposedly a great military power,
Speaker 2: but not an economic power. Why do you say, why
Speaker 2: do you belong to a committee to kind of constrain
Speaker 2: the Chinese Communist Party? Why are they the most dominant
Speaker 2: force ever to confront of America.
Speaker 5: Well, they have amped up the communist strategy way beyond
Speaker 5: what the what the Soviets had. You know, they believe
Speaker 5: in unrestricted warfare, and they have recognized and and of
Speaker 5: course China has a heritage that goes back to the
Speaker 5: Sun Sue. I think he lived, I don't know, more
Speaker 5: than two thousand years ago. Sun Su the military philosopher,
Speaker 5: said that the acme of military success is winning, you know,
Speaker 5: is winning the war, winning the battle without firing a shot.
Speaker 5: So the Chinese have really mastered this sort of cultural
Speaker 5: penetration and elite capture where they capture elites and they
Speaker 5: use you know, primarily its money. Of course, they have
Speaker 5: a lot of dollars to throw around. They have an
Speaker 5: annual budget of fifteen billion dollars. That is that that
Speaker 5: is used to target America and to carry out subversive activities.
Speaker 5: And many of these things are done sort of subliminally.
Speaker 5: People don't understand that the Chinese.
Speaker 6: Are our mortal enemy.
Speaker 5: And you know, they've created these Confucian institutes on campuses
Speaker 5: across the country. They're more Chinese students in America than
Speaker 5: any other nation by a factor of three anyway, and
Speaker 5: you know, they they they're just masters at at at
Speaker 5: at the cultural revolution. Of course, we know that that's
Speaker 5: what Mao did, but they have refined it and perfected
Speaker 5: it to such a point that Americans are are you know,
Speaker 5: are don't they don't understand really what's what's what's going on?
Speaker 2: And Scott when you look at their malware. Christopher Ray,
Speaker 2: the old director of the FBI, said about eight months
Speaker 2: ago that they have malware and every critical American utility,
Speaker 2: every phone system, every water system, and they test it
Speaker 2: out now and then to make sure it works and
Speaker 2: collapse systems. He made the point that if they have
Speaker 2: complete absolute war against US, we couldn't fly planes, we
Speaker 2: couldn't land planes, we couldn't make telephone calls, we would
Speaker 2: not have electricity, we would not have water, and within
Speaker 2: three days America would be in total chaos where there's
Speaker 2: no communication, and they can fly hot air balloons over
Speaker 2: the top of the country. They can send tens of
Speaker 2: thousands of students into our colleges and universities. They can
Speaker 2: buy millions of acres of farmland around US military bases
Speaker 2: and put malware all over the place so that we
Speaker 2: can't function. The average Americans got powered, doesn't understand the
Speaker 2: truth of what communists read China wants to do to us.
Speaker 2: Imagine a world without electricity, without sewer system, without water,
Speaker 2: without the ability to communicate. Imagine that world, and that's
Speaker 2: what China's planned for us.
Speaker 5: It is true, it is true, and I think that
Speaker 5: Trump understands this, and I think behind the scenes there's
Speaker 5: going to be a de engineering on a lot of this.
Speaker 5: And I would just I would love to see the
Speaker 5: new Secretary of Agriculture stand up and say, you know,
Speaker 5: we can't buy farmland in China. We're going to give
Speaker 5: you your money back. We're taking back all the land
Speaker 5: that was sold to you. Would give you what you
Speaker 5: paid for it, but you've got to pack your bags
Speaker 5: and leave. You know, you're not welcome to have farmland
Speaker 5: in America.
Speaker 3: We need our farm land every year.
Speaker 2: It's about a trillion dollars of a trade surplus they
Speaker 2: get from America. And so they're crying like a stuck
Speaker 2: pig when America says we're going to use the same
Speaker 2: tariffs on you China that you use on our products.
Speaker 2: Same thing in the heartland of Germany, the heartland of Europe,
Speaker 2: the same You don't see forge and Chevyes on the
Speaker 2: roads all over Germany, but you do see Volkswagens and
Speaker 2: BMW's and Mercedes here. And what's good for the goose
Speaker 2: is good for the gander. And I think that makes
Speaker 2: perfect sense. Well, we got to run. Scott Powell, thanks
Speaker 2: for coming on. And President's Day is going to remain
Speaker 2: for a long time. And the fact that Donald Trump
Speaker 2: is our president now as a matter of celebration, not regret.
Speaker 2: And Scott Powell, once again, thank you for coming on
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show. And Scott you're a great American.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Bill, thank you. Let's do it again.
Speaker 2: Let's continue with more. Imagine hot air balloons flying over
Speaker 2: red China. I wonder if we have our ability to
Speaker 2: do to them what they do to us. I strongly
Speaker 2: suspect that we do not, because we don't have tens
Speaker 2: of thousands of American students in their elite universities. That
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, but the opposite does, and that's not a
Speaker 2: good thing. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham The Great
Speaker 2: American with you every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham. I
Speaker 2: love hearing from Scott Powelly his perspective on things. I
Speaker 2: know the left was angry about President's Day last week
Speaker 2: because Donald Trump didn't deserve his own day.
Speaker 3: And the drum beat is there right now.
Speaker 2: Sixty minutes earlier tonight, Two of the three hit pieces
Speaker 2: were against Donald Trump, that somehow the Department of Justice
Speaker 2: under Joe Biden and Barack Hussein Obama were paragons of
Speaker 2: virtue only prosecuting crime, when what they did was turn
Speaker 2: a blind eye completely to democratic felonies like by Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 2: or by Joe Biden himself, or by Bill Clinton, etc.
Speaker 2: And they went after Donald Trump to keep him out
Speaker 2: of office. What they fear that Donald Trump might do
Speaker 2: is exactly what they've already done. On another point, to
Speaker 2: have Scott Powell on to talk about what's happening, as
Speaker 2: you know, in communist China, it is really unbelievable that
Speaker 2: we have had a policy of welcoming into this country
Speaker 2: every Chinese export with little or no tariffs, when our
Speaker 2: products can't be sold in Beijing, when their students are
Speaker 2: taught at our elite universities, and guess what the opposite
Speaker 2: is not true, when we can't buy their land, but
Speaker 2: they buy hours around military basis. And the most scary
Speaker 2: thought is there have the capability of shutting down through
Speaker 2: malware our electrical grid, our cell phones, our sewer systems,
Speaker 2: our merchants, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Through the Internet. That is a serious serious problem.
Speaker 2: Would you agree that I like to know whether or
Speaker 2: not we have similar capabilities against the against the Red Chinese.
Speaker 3: I have my doubts.
Speaker 2: So we finally have a president that will stand up
Speaker 2: to Jijiao Ping and say not on my watch. Let's
Speaker 2: continue with more. Thanks for listening, continue to follow what's
Speaker 2: going to happen this week? Bill cunning in the Great
Speaker 2: American with you and all of the great Americans.
Speaker 3: Guess what every Sunday.
Speaker 2: Night, Billy Cunning in the Great America.
Speaker 3: Let's continue now. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: One of the world renowned, world recognize experts on guns
Speaker 2: and violence is John Lott. He spent many years in
Speaker 2: the Trump administration in the first term, written many books
Speaker 2: on the subject, and in addition of being a Great American,
Speaker 2: and he also runs crimeresearch dot org. And one thing
Speaker 2: we spoke briefly off the air about it. Things are
Speaker 2: now better than when we thought they would be, much
Speaker 2: better than we thought they would be after the first
Speaker 2: month of the Trump presidency. The FBI does not just
Speaker 2: have a transparency problem, they're actually distorting data to secure
Speaker 2: important crime statistics. The truth will set us all free.
Speaker 2: And John Lott, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show,
Speaker 2: and we just briefly off the air we discussed year
Speaker 2: years with the Department of Justice in the first Trump term,
Speaker 2: for which he wasn't really prepared to govern in a
Speaker 2: sense because he relied upon others for key positions. I
Speaker 2: think he was shocked when he won, and this time
Speaker 2: he's not shocked at all. And in fact, in an
Speaker 2: odd way, the last four years putting him through hell,
Speaker 2: what was even hardening his resolve to get things done
Speaker 2: but relate to the American people. What you told me
Speaker 2: off the air about the leadership of DOJ and the
Speaker 2: leadership of the Department of Education and the first Trump
Speaker 2: term and how it's so much better today, right, Well.
Speaker 8: I mean.
Speaker 9: Trump relied on people, you know, other Republicans like the Bushes,
Speaker 9: to go and help staff parts of the government.
Speaker 8: You know, if you have somebody who's.
Speaker 9: A governor who ends up being president, they're going to
Speaker 9: take you know, like the California Mafia or the Georgia
Speaker 9: mafia that they have there, you know, people that they've
Speaker 9: been working with that they've kind of seen, you know,
Speaker 9: actually operate government. Trump didn't have that. He had a
Speaker 9: very small campaign staff in twenty sixteen, he didn't have,
Speaker 9: so he relied on them, and it turned out to
Speaker 9: be a mistake because the people that the Bushes suggested,
Speaker 9: George W. Bush for the Department of Justice and Jeb
Speaker 9: Bush for the Department of Education, hated Trump. I mean
Speaker 9: I personally ran into people in the Department of Justice
Speaker 9: who were political pointings. I mean it was bad enough
Speaker 9: you have to deal with the civil service that just
Speaker 9: hates publicans, but Trump had to deal with all these
Speaker 9: political point pointies who just hated him and would do
Speaker 9: whatever they could to make his life difficult. It's amazing,
Speaker 9: you know, he could even accomplish half of what he did,
Speaker 9: but he obviously accomplished was more. But this time he's
Speaker 9: learned his lesson and the quality of people that he's
Speaker 9: put in there is much higher. And that makes a
Speaker 9: huge difference.
Speaker 2: Of course, because he can only do so much, and
Speaker 2: it's the first time he was shocked that he won,
Speaker 2: so he relied upon the Bush He's a serious mistake
Speaker 2: to staff the Department of Justice. I can rot it
Speaker 2: off some of the names who running the FBI, etc.
Speaker 2: The Department of Education, it was all Bushy's either Jeb
Speaker 2: Bush or Bush forty one Bush forty three that told
Speaker 2: him that this guy'd be good, Rod, that that guy'd
Speaker 2: be good in a way. You go, and he never
Speaker 2: and then immediately he's impeached as soon as he gets
Speaker 2: into office. Even now he's only been in office a month,
Speaker 2: our Democrats are still talking about impeachment. But let's get
Speaker 2: onto the substance of your story, which is at the Federalist.
Speaker 2: It's a great read, and it talks about the headline
Speaker 2: is Trump's FBI reforms need to include ending its data
Speaker 2: distortions on crime.
Speaker 3: Please explain.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of people kind
Speaker 9: of understand the political biases in the Department of Justice
Speaker 9: and the FBI, as well as other agencies that are there.
Speaker 9: You know, in the FBI you have things like going
Speaker 9: after Catholics, or going after people who attended school board meetings,
Speaker 9: or you have, you know, spying on a presidential campaign
Speaker 9: for the opposing party in twenty sixteen. You know, you
Speaker 9: have lots of political biases there that have to.
Speaker 8: Be dealt with.
Speaker 9: But what hasn't really been talked about by the political
Speaker 9: biases involved in just the data. You let people on
Speaker 9: the left control the data that gets put out. You
Speaker 9: allow them to control the political debate. And we saw
Speaker 9: this during the presidential campaign this last year. You know,
Speaker 9: one of the headlines that we saw over and over
Speaker 9: again for the media was that crime is down, but
Speaker 9: people mistakenly think that it was increasing. And a lot
Speaker 9: of that was based on the data for twenty twenty
Speaker 9: two that had come out, came out in October twenty
Speaker 9: twenty three, and so for a year we had headlines
Speaker 9: on that. The problem was that this past September, when
Speaker 9: the FBI put out it's data for twenty twenty three,
Speaker 9: it secretly quietly changed the data for twenty twenty two,
Speaker 9: no mention of it in the press release that.
Speaker 8: They put out.
Speaker 9: If you read the report that came out in the fall,
Speaker 9: all it said was we've in a footnote one sentence
Speaker 9: said we've updated the data for twenty twenty two. But
Speaker 9: what they had done was originally they said it had
Speaker 9: fallen by two point one percent, and now with the revision,
Speaker 9: it had gone up by four point five percent.
Speaker 8: That's a pretty big swing.
Speaker 9: And you would think given all the media coverage, you know,
Speaker 9: David Muir in the presidential debate where he was quote,
Speaker 9: you know, fact checking the president there on that he
Speaker 9: was relying. The only final data that was out at
Speaker 9: that point was the data for twenty twenty two, and
Speaker 9: you know, it turns out that it was wrong. But
Speaker 9: the FBI didn't, you know, acknowledge that they had changed it,
Speaker 9: didn't explain why that they had changed it.
Speaker 8: And even once it kind.
Speaker 9: Of became viral that they had made this change, and
Speaker 9: the mediate news media.
Speaker 8: Organizations would reach out.
Speaker 9: To the FBI before the election to try to, you know,
Speaker 9: get them to make a definitive statement themselves on it.
Speaker 9: They refused to do so. The only thing that they
Speaker 9: would say is we stand by our data and just
Speaker 9: leave it vague and not explain the change or even
Speaker 9: officially acknowledged that it had gone from a drop to
Speaker 9: an increase.
Speaker 8: But you know, it's just one of many things they.
Speaker 9: Put out reports all the time. And it's not just
Speaker 9: the Department of that's the FBI. You have issues with
Speaker 9: the Bureau of Justice Statistics, you have issues with the
Speaker 9: Senates for Disease Control, and you know, Cash Petel is
Speaker 9: going to have a huge job there at the FBI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read according to other outlets, there was more
Speaker 2: than five hundred times five hundred times, the mainstream media
Speaker 2: and the two months running up to the election that
Speaker 2: said crime is down. In fact, you you excerpted in
Speaker 2: your column at the Federalists from NPR, which surely has
Speaker 2: to be defunded. Quote this is NPR that we're paying
Speaker 2: five hundred million dollars to get factual information from. Quote
Speaker 2: violent crime is dropping fast in the US, even if
Speaker 2: Americans don't believe it. And then you have that back
Speaker 2: and forth with David Mure when President Trump during the
Speaker 2: presidential campaign said quote crime here is up and through
Speaker 2: the roof, despite fraudulent statements that they made. Then David Muir,
Speaker 2: who's that face, the voice of ABC News, said, quote,
Speaker 2: mister President, you know the FBI says overall violent crime
Speaker 2: is actually coming down in this country quote unquote. Then
Speaker 2: let's move on. And so they threw into the middle
Speaker 2: of the body politic poison, acidic water based upon false,
Speaker 2: fraudulent data that the FBI, Christopher Ray knew it was
Speaker 2: false when he put it out, failed to correct it
Speaker 2: for political purposes. And that's one of the examples of
Speaker 2: the political politicalization of the FBI, because they would report
Speaker 2: only information that was good for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: and I think that's illustrative. And then you go on
Speaker 2: to talk to statistics and the facts, and so I
Speaker 2: guess it's a pejorative question. But when you hear five
Speaker 2: hundred times and then during the Great Debate with David
Speaker 2: Muir the crime is down, crime is down, do you
Speaker 2: think some Americans took that in as factually accurate and
Speaker 2: voted based thereon and voted for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 8: I have no doubt that that was the case.
Speaker 9: I mean, there was presumably a reason that the Democrats
Speaker 9: and the media kept on pushing this claim.
Speaker 8: But look, you know.
Speaker 9: It's even worse than that, because there are two measures
Speaker 9: that the Department of Justice has on crime. One is
Speaker 9: the FBI data on crimes report to police. But we
Speaker 9: know most crimes aren't report to police. Only about forty
Speaker 9: percent of violent crimes and only about thirty percent of property.
Speaker 8: Crimes are reported.
Speaker 9: And so over fifty years ago, the Department of Justice
Speaker 9: set up something called the National Crime Victimization Survey by
Speaker 9: the Bureau of Justice Statistics, which gets a measure of
Speaker 9: total crime from this truly massive two hundred and forty
Speaker 9: thousand person.
Speaker 8: Survey that they do each year.
Speaker 9: And what you find is that during the Biden administration,
Speaker 9: we had the largest percentage increase over the three years
Speaker 9: that the data's out for that we've ever seen during
Speaker 9: the fifty years that they've been putting the stay together.
Speaker 9: During there's been a fifty four percent increase in violent
Speaker 9: crime during the first three years of the Biden ministry,
Speaker 9: forty three percent increase in rates, a sixty three percent
Speaker 9: increase and robberies, and a four percent increase in egg
Speaker 9: beata assaults. That's more than twice as large as the
Speaker 9: next previous increase over the previous fifty years. But the
Speaker 9: media just ignored that, even though if you're going to
Speaker 9: ask people, would you rather get a measure of total
Speaker 9: crime or would you rather get a measure of crimes
Speaker 9: who poured to police? There are lots of reasons, and
Speaker 9: you and I talked about it before about why not
Speaker 9: all crimes are report to police and why that can
Speaker 9: change over time. But the media not only did they
Speaker 9: fixate on numbers that turned out to be wrong from
Speaker 9: the FBI, but they ignored other data that would have
Speaker 9: shown a very different story there.
Speaker 2: Why what what's the motivation to lie to the American people,
Speaker 2: And I would assume that David Mures and others knew
Speaker 2: they were lying when they did it, or did they
Speaker 2: not know and simply not look below the covers to
Speaker 2: find what's underneath. Because arrest may be down, but crime
Speaker 2: itself is way up when seventy percent of property crimes
Speaker 2: are not reported to the police. Who can't arrest someone
Speaker 2: with a non report unless the crime is committed in
Speaker 2: some officer's presence, which is quite unusual. So what's the
Speaker 2: motivation of the media to lie, especially in pr.
Speaker 9: Look, I mean, I can't get into people's minds on this.
Speaker 9: What I can say is I had an opt ed
Speaker 9: in the Wall Street Journal in April. You would think,
Speaker 9: you know, that would have at least alerted. I mean,
Speaker 9: that's the biggest newspaper in the country. You would think
Speaker 9: that at least some people would have noticed that discussion
Speaker 9: at that time.
Speaker 2: And another point in your column in the Federalist dot
Speaker 2: Com John Lott is that the FBI isn't the only
Speaker 2: agency that hides or dissorts data for political purposes. The
Speaker 2: Centers for Disease Control under Joe Biden suppressed that of
Speaker 2: proving that armed citizens help Prevent Crime by removing its
Speaker 2: estimates that the defensive gun uses from its website because
Speaker 2: I can only assume it didn't fit the media die tribe,
Speaker 2: and I would think the Centers for Disease Control would
Speaker 2: have little or nothing to do with defensive gun use,
Speaker 2: but the federal government indicates that they do. And you
Speaker 2: reference the fact that the National Academies of Science reported
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, which was less violent time in our history,
Speaker 2: that people use guns to stop crime anywhere between sixty
Speaker 2: four thousand to three million times a year. Is there
Speaker 2: something more current than the twenty thirteen estimate. We're twelve
Speaker 2: years later, and what evidence is there that those armed
Speaker 2: citizens actually stopped crime? Right?
Speaker 9: Well, either are a couple of things in there. One
Speaker 9: is the reason why the Centers for Disease Control removed
Speaker 9: it from their website is because different gun control groups
Speaker 9: during the Biden administration essentially lobbied and talked to the
Speaker 9: Centers for Disease Control it to be hess to the
Speaker 9: Biden administration.
Speaker 8: And I quote one.
Speaker 9: Of them there, the Gun Violence Archive, which is a
Speaker 9: well known gun control group that the media uses.
Speaker 8: All the time.
Speaker 9: They were saying that, well, if you put that out
Speaker 9: on your website. It's been making it more difficult for
Speaker 9: us to push for the types of gun control laws
Speaker 9: that we want. Is if somehow that's a legitimate thing
Speaker 9: that the Centers for disease control should be considering and
Speaker 9: determining whether or not information is put out there or not.
Speaker 9: But yeah, there is more recent information on this.
Speaker 7: You have.
Speaker 9: For example, there was a study put out in twenty
Speaker 9: twenty one that indicate there was about one point six
Speaker 9: million defensive gun uses that occurred. You have to understand
Speaker 9: the reason for the large range is that you have
Speaker 9: government data from the Bureau of Justice assystems, which basically
Speaker 9: puts it in the range of about one hundred thousand,
Speaker 9: and then you have other academic surveys that put it
Speaker 9: much higher. And the reason is very simple, and that
Speaker 9: is what's the three screening question that's used. And and
Speaker 9: the Bureau of Justice statistics what they say it they
Speaker 9: ask you, have you been a victim of crime? And
Speaker 9: the problem is is that a lot of people who
Speaker 9: maybe use the gun defensively stop the crime before it occurred,
Speaker 9: so they may not view themselves as having become a victim.
Speaker 9: And if they say they were not a victim. Then
Speaker 9: they don't ask any more questions than the survey there.
Speaker 9: The academic surveys will ask things like, you know, have
Speaker 9: you been threatened with violence with somebody that you have
Speaker 9: been been threatened with violence? And that's and when you
Speaker 9: ask that type of question, you get a much higher
Speaker 9: rate of people that you then go and ask whether
Speaker 9: you know how they behave, what the criminal did, and
Speaker 9: and other things that go on there, and you get
Speaker 9: it much. You get an estimate that's usually average around
Speaker 9: two million a counch of gun news is the year, and.
Speaker 3: So the long and the short is we look forward.
Speaker 2: It's only been about a month, but we look forward
Speaker 2: to crime data coming out of the FBI and the
Speaker 2: Centers for Disease Control that are actually accurate and actually
Speaker 2: reflect reality, not for political purposes one way or another.
Speaker 2: I think a rest are down, but I think crime
Speaker 2: is way up. Liberal prosecutors in many blue cities and
Speaker 2: blue states don't want to prosecute crimes because it looks bad.
Speaker 2: I live in the little city of Cincinnati, and I'm
Speaker 2: being told repeatedly that crime is down in the city
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati, but I don't believe it. I think a
Speaker 2: rest are down. We have a lot of liberal judges
Speaker 2: here like in major American cities, and those liberal judges
Speaker 2: do not hold people accountable. In fact, to get out
Speaker 2: on bond on a serious, serious felony is not that
Speaker 2: big a deal. Ten years ago you couldn't get out.
Speaker 2: It was good time that you would have applied. It's
Speaker 2: your sentence. But that's completely different. Well, John Lotte, we
Speaker 2: got to run once again. We began by talking about
Speaker 2: how Bush was sandbagged and his first four years, and
Speaker 2: I think, in an odd way, the hell that he
Speaker 2: went through the last four years harden him in the
Speaker 2: steel to make sure the next four years are going
Speaker 2: to be significantly better, significantly different than the first four
Speaker 2: years of the of the term, because when you put
Speaker 2: Bush people in charge of the Department of Justice and
Speaker 2: the Department of Education, that's not a good situation. Now
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing, got great people involved, cash,
Speaker 2: PTTEL is going to do great work with the FBI,
Speaker 2: et cetera. And once again it's Crimeresearch Dot Org. I
Speaker 2: have it up right now. Many columns are up about
Speaker 2: concealed carry permit holders and defensive uses things of that character,
Speaker 2: and someone listening needs the actual facts on this it's
Speaker 2: crimeresearch dot org and John Lott. We have a lot
Speaker 2: to talk about. I think things are getting better. And
Speaker 2: once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show,
Speaker 2: and my friend will do it again.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 8: Thank you Bill. You make a big difference, so do you.
Speaker 3: Thank you John. All right, let's continue with more.
Speaker 2: Of course, he spent years in the Trump administration and
Speaker 2: now he's out doing research of things in that character
Speaker 2: about concealed handgun permit holders and the value they have
Speaker 2: the law enforcement. Let's continue with more. Bill cunning Him
Speaker 2: the Great American with you and all other great Americans
Speaker 2: every Sunday Night by Bully cunning Him the Great American
Speaker 2: and the good to hear from John on. You know one
Speaker 2: thing he just pointed out. This guy's got crimeresearch dot org.
Speaker 2: This guy's an academician, he's a scholar, he's an author.
Speaker 2: He knows where the bodies are buried. How about the
Speaker 2: fact that in America today, seventy percent of property crimes
Speaker 2: are not reported to the police because the victim doesn't
Speaker 2: feel as if it makes any difference to whether I
Speaker 2: report the thing or not. Nothing's going to happen how's
Speaker 2: that possible? If your car is broken into, if something
Speaker 2: is stolen for a person's stolen in them all, or
Speaker 2: maybe at a Publix or a Kroger or whatever, shouldn't
Speaker 2: you have the confidence, Okay, I'm going to call the police.
Speaker 2: I'm going to file a police report, and I'm going
Speaker 2: to see what happened. But if we have so little
Speaker 2: confidence and prosecutions of wrongdoors, why call the police in
Speaker 2: the first place. The only crime that really can say, okay,
Speaker 2: we know what happened here was a murder or a suicide.
Speaker 2: You know you got a body and rape victims. You
Speaker 2: know there was a rape take place. But if you
Speaker 2: talk about so many property crimes, we don't know what
Speaker 2: the hell happened because we have no confidence, especially in
Speaker 2: blue cities and blue states like in Chicago or Los
Speaker 2: Angeles or New York City.
Speaker 3: Why in the world.
Speaker 2: Would you ever call the police in a property crime
Speaker 2: when you know a CoP's not likely to arrive, or secondly,
Speaker 2: when they do come, the person who did that is
Speaker 2: going to be out of jail before the paperwork is done.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Let's continue with more up next to Steve gorm about
Speaker 2: what Christopher wright Department of Energy is going to do
Speaker 2: and more because I think there's a new sheriff.
Speaker 3: In town and his name is Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Thank God, because there's a metamorphosis happening green energy right
Speaker 2: now and it's its destruction. Goll Cunningham, the Great American
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Speaker 2: Gorm's an expert on the environment. In the climate, he's
Speaker 2: a public speaker and executive director of the Climate Science Coalition,
Speaker 2: advisor to the Heartland Institute, written many books on the
Speaker 2: subject matter, including The Green Breakdown, The Green Breakdown, The
Speaker 2: Coming Renewable Energy Failure, and Steve Gorm welcome again to
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, I would
Speaker 2: note I wanted to maybe to tell the American people
Speaker 2: what are the Trump energy policies now, which fundamentally you've
Speaker 2: advocated for a long time. But tell the American people,
Speaker 2: in case they're not paying close attention, what are the
Speaker 2: Trump energy policies?
Speaker 3: As I speak?
Speaker 8: Hey, Bill, great to join you again. Yeah.
Speaker 10: The President Trump's administration in the first month has basically
Speaker 10: dropped a bomb on green energy. It really is remarkable
Speaker 10: what's going on. Four big areas, and these were done
Speaker 10: with executive orders, but he's trying to follow these up
Speaker 10: with congressional action. The first is he has canceled all
Speaker 10: offshore wind turbine licenses. The federal government owns all the
Speaker 10: land between three miles and two miles off shore, and
Speaker 10: if you want to put up a wind turbine, you
Speaker 10: have to get a license, and mister Trump has now
Speaker 10: stopped issuing those. And he's also instructed the Secretary of
Speaker 10: the Interior, Doug Burgham, to review any licenses that have
Speaker 10: been granted. And so we had a big, big changes
Speaker 10: right off the bat. For example, Denmark Orsted, a big
Speaker 10: supplier of wind turbines, stock price dropped seventeen percent right
Speaker 10: after the executive order. It took a one point seven
Speaker 10: billion dollar charge. We've seen a bunch of other firms
Speaker 10: that the stock price has gone down and they've had
Speaker 10: charges as well. The second big area is that is
Speaker 10: rolling back of electric vehicle incentives. And he used an
Speaker 10: executive called Unleashing American Energy, which basically says, I'm going
Speaker 10: to get rid of all the incentives for evs and
Speaker 10: that includes the tax credits. And we're already seeing some
Speaker 10: of this in the markets. The a lot of dealers
Speaker 10: are saying, well, they're not going to issue the tax credits.
Speaker 10: Congress is trying to pass as something that will remove it.
Speaker 10: This was in the Inflation Reduction Act. And then he's
Speaker 10: also doing a bunch of other things about getting rid
Speaker 10: of subsidies and favorable for electric vehicles. And it was
Speaker 10: just announced the General Services Administration GSA is going to
Speaker 10: shut down eight thousand EV chargers nationwide. They, by the way,
Speaker 10: nobody is making money with EV chargers and not a
Speaker 10: single firm that can break even an EV charger, and
Speaker 10: so without all these subsidies, we wouldn't have all these things,
Speaker 10: and the federal government's going to start shutting these down.
Speaker 10: The third big area is the cuts to renewable funding,
Speaker 10: and those are coming from all sorts of grants from
Speaker 10: the EPA, and also was also in the Inflation Reduction Act.
Speaker 10: They're trying to get rid of all those, so that's
Speaker 10: another big deal. And then the last big area is
Speaker 10: he has really made big changes to climate policy already
Speaker 10: and one executiveority was putting America first in the international
Speaker 10: environmental agreements. So he is withdrawing from the Paris Climate
Speaker 10: of Courts, He's terminating the Green New Deal, which representive
Speaker 10: Pacossium Courts has talked about quite a few years ago.
Speaker 10: And then he's also even instructed Lee Zelden, our new
Speaker 10: head of the EPA, to look at the Endangerment finding
Speaker 10: of two thousand and nine, in which the EPA December seven,
Speaker 10: two thousand and nine, a day that will live in infamy.
Speaker 10: The EPA declared carbon dioxide I said it endangers of
Speaker 10: the health and welfare of current and future generation. So wow,
Speaker 10: those are all really really big effects. And oh, by
Speaker 10: the way, there's a whole bunch of climate departments and
Speaker 10: they are just canceling those throughout the government right now.
Speaker 10: All these things that were set up to work with
Speaker 10: the client on the climates he's getting rid of them,
Speaker 10: so just massive changes, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Steve Gorm I'm not in favor of EV's, I'm
Speaker 2: not against them. I think it's a matter of choice.
Speaker 2: If you want, knowing everything you know about EV's, if
Speaker 2: you want to buy a Tesla or buy a Ford
Speaker 2: EV as an American, have at it. It might make
Speaker 2: sense if you're in an urban area. It's second or
Speaker 2: third car, it's expensive, hard to repair, it's insurance rates
Speaker 2: are higher. But if you look at all that and
Speaker 2: you want to make some political or cultural statement, I
Speaker 2: want to buy an EV, that's fine, but damn it,
Speaker 2: I don't want to subsidize it. To give you an example,
Speaker 2: about two or three weeks ago, run the middle of
Speaker 2: middle end of January, Ford Motor Company guy's name is
Speaker 2: James Farley, the CEO announced that they lost in the
Speaker 2: year twenty twenty four five point two billion dollars on
Speaker 2: their EV production and made about five point six billion
Speaker 2: on gasoline powered cars, so it was more or less
Speaker 2: an offset, and he said in twenty twenty five, we're
Speaker 2: going to lose more money than that. He had to
Speaker 2: warn the market that they geared up for this thing,
Speaker 2: and that dog won't hunt. And on top of that,
Speaker 2: Nicola and Assar Rivian, which are explained, what's happening with
Speaker 2: government subsidies money right down the tubes like Celindra, right
Speaker 2: down the tubes. What's happening to those two companies.
Speaker 10: Yeah, so we've got you know, we have a whole
Speaker 10: industries that are that live on government money. Now, these
Speaker 10: are EV charging companies. A lot of the evs with
Speaker 10: the text credits green hydrogen, carbon dioxide, pipelines.
Speaker 8: Wind solar, all of these things.
Speaker 10: But nevertheless, so as I think we've discussed before, a
Speaker 10: green equipment companies are very very poor investments. An example
Speaker 10: is Nicola, which is electric truck manufacturer. They filed for
Speaker 10: bankruptcy last week. They had been valued when they did
Speaker 10: an initial public offering at thirty billion dollars and they've
Speaker 10: never made any money. And another one is a company
Speaker 10: called Rivian Automotive, and in December, the biot And Administration
Speaker 10: approved a six point six billion dollar loan to Rivian
Speaker 10: to build a plant in Georgia. Just you know, talk
Speaker 10: if you think Solendra was a big issue, this is
Speaker 10: about ten times as big.
Speaker 9: Rivian has never.
Speaker 10: Made any money. Last year, I think they had a
Speaker 10: revenue of four hundred million and had losses of about
Speaker 10: four hundred million. I mean, it's just and we're just
Speaker 10: going to have an endless round of bankruptcies here with
Speaker 10: all of these firms. Another one is plug Power. Plug
Speaker 10: Power to a company that produces hydrogen or green hydrogen.
Speaker 10: They were founded about nineteen ninety eight. They have never
Speaker 10: made a profit in twenty seven years, and they just
Speaker 10: keep getting money from states and federals and other You know,
Speaker 10: we have just all these industries that are just living
Speaker 10: on all this federal money, and mister Trump is putting
Speaker 10: a stop to all of this.
Speaker 2: Any idea, can you, Steve Goren put a number on
Speaker 2: the green energy breakdown? What's happened in this country? And
Speaker 2: I think communist Red China is involved in this too,
Speaker 2: because they sold us ninety five percent of our solar panels.
Speaker 2: And I saw in Arizona so many of the solar
Speaker 2: panels that was one hundred acres of solar panels that
Speaker 2: were pitted because of a terrible storm that came and
Speaker 2: that it blew them out. And somehow it's unbelievable how
Speaker 2: much money, any idea, how much this boondoggle has cost
Speaker 2: not the investors. If you wanted to invest in Nicola
Speaker 2: or Rivion or or a plug Power, if you want
Speaker 2: to invest in companies to build eight thousand EV power
Speaker 2: stations around America that I think about ten, we're not ten,
Speaker 2: about ten we're ever built. Have added your money. But
Speaker 2: how much public money are we talking about over the
Speaker 2: last ten to fifteen years beginning with Obama.
Speaker 10: Well a lot Globally it's about about two trillion dollars
Speaker 10: last year was spent unrenewables, and it's been it's been very,
Speaker 10: very big, and over the last ten years have been
Speaker 10: about six or seven trillion unrenewables. We still get eighty
Speaker 10: percent of our energy from coal, oil, and natural gas,
Speaker 10: so it's really not having much of an impact globally.
Speaker 10: And again, the subsidies are just massive now. They're running
Speaker 10: about under Biden. The last year, I think they got
Speaker 10: up to eighty billion dollars in subsidies in terms of
Speaker 10: tax breaks, tax credits, other things. And so we have
Speaker 10: all these companies that are just are just living on this,
Speaker 10: and we're going to have this is a lot of
Speaker 10: this is going to just crash here. And I would
Speaker 10: advise people that this green breakdown is coming, as I
Speaker 10: said in my book The Coming Renewable Energy Failure, which
Speaker 10: came out last year, and we're starting to see it.
Speaker 10: This is going to take a long long time because
Speaker 10: much of the world is invested in this energy transition.
Speaker 10: But all green energy really means is higher energy prices.
Speaker 10: It means electricity blackouts, means less freedom because they're trying
Speaker 10: to force people to buy electric cars and get rid
Speaker 10: of their gas stoves. It means energy shocks across the
Speaker 10: world like we saw in Europe, and it isn't going
Speaker 10: to have a measurable effect on global temperatures. There's no
Speaker 10: evidence that that is going to occur, So we're going
Speaker 10: to have a mixed future. I think evs are going
Speaker 10: to get better and better over time, but they're a
Speaker 10: long long way from becoming our main source of transportation.
Speaker 2: Had a guest on a few weeks ago that talked
Speaker 2: about in nineteen ninety we were told the kids were
Speaker 2: told that by the time twenty twenty five rolls around,
Speaker 2: no child in America will see snow, that ice and
Speaker 2: snow will be gone, That the economy is going to
Speaker 2: be the world's going to be heated up and on
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five. It's been a terrible year in
Speaker 2: the Midwest. It's not good at all, in fact throughout
Speaker 2: the South, and I think New Orleans had some snow
Speaker 2: just before the Super Bowl. And you also have a
Speaker 2: column you wrote in November. The headline is scientists have
Speaker 2: not saved the ozone layer, and this is another scare
Speaker 2: tactic employed by environmental extremists to frighten us into public
Speaker 2: policy based upon the wrong decisions. When you wrote this,
Speaker 2: explain why the ozone layer. We were told for years
Speaker 2: that if the ozone layer went away, would all be fried.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless it didn't happen. This is ten years ago,
Speaker 2: predicted Tell us what NASA predicted ten years ago.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, this is way back about about nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 10: I think the nations of the world assigned a agreement
Speaker 10: to try and get rid of all the chlorofluoro carbons
Speaker 10: that our industry was producing.
Speaker 8: These were.
Speaker 10: The things that we're going into aerosols and other sorts
Speaker 10: of things. A bunch of scientists said that these these
Speaker 10: were going up in the atmosphere, they were sending the
Speaker 10: ozone layer, and they were the ozone hole over the Antarctic,
Speaker 10: and so the world is signed and I can't remember
Speaker 10: the name of the agreements here, the Montreal Protocol. They
Speaker 10: signed the Montreal Protocol, and they shut down producing these things.
Speaker 10: They went they went to zero by two thousand. Yet
Speaker 10: those on holes still up there. Every year NaSTA measures it.
Speaker 10: It's been twenty years now since all the floral chlorocarbons
Speaker 10: were gone and signed. Is saying, well, I was going
Speaker 10: to take another two or three decades before we see
Speaker 10: in effect. But you know, this is just another example
Speaker 10: where scientists were wrong. The whole world marched in one direction.
Speaker 10: And it's very similar to the fears about man made
Speaker 10: global warming. You know, we've had a pretty cool winner
Speaker 10: this year and might we might have some global cooling
Speaker 10: coming up. What we need to do is reduce real poloe.
Speaker 10: We need to give people choice to produce, to allow
Speaker 10: them to buy evs or whatever they want to buy,
Speaker 10: and quit having the government impose all this stuff. And
Speaker 10: that's what mister Trump is going to do here. We're
Speaker 10: turning this over in the United States and we may see.
Speaker 8: This go worldwide.
Speaker 10: We had just elections in Germany today or yesterday Europe,
Speaker 10: and the Conservatives and the people that don't like the
Speaker 10: climate agenda are gaining position.
Speaker 2: And I think they only got like the Conservatives got
Speaker 2: like twenty eight percent of the vote, which over there
Speaker 2: is a big number. And the course they're on is
Speaker 2: impossible to continue. And I think many Germans and Brits
Speaker 2: feel like you and I may feel. Number one, we
Speaker 2: have a terrible budget debt and deficit to thirty six trillion.
Speaker 2: Number two, we had until about a month and a
Speaker 2: half ago, open borders. And number three, we have to
Speaker 2: exploit the energy resources in America. I'm told that Germany
Speaker 2: has lots of natural gas and coal, but they can't
Speaker 2: use it because of climate extremism, and they have to
Speaker 2: buy a lot of it from Russia or from US.
Speaker 2: And then Biden shuts down the LNG portals out of
Speaker 2: New Orleans so that we couldn't transport it to them.
Speaker 3: And that's all.
Speaker 2: Do you have a sense that a long time ago,
Speaker 2: the long and the Steve Gorms, the Bill Cunningham's, the
Speaker 2: Sean Hannity's, the Joe Pegs, at some point it's sunk
Speaker 2: into the minds of the American people that we can't
Speaker 2: continue in this course and be great Americans.
Speaker 3: Do you have a sense this is a breaking point.
Speaker 9: Well, I sure hope.
Speaker 8: So.
Speaker 10: I think this is the start of the rollback and
Speaker 10: the green initiatives and hopefully toward greater freedom. We had
Speaker 10: that last election, and while mister Trump has been exceeding
Speaker 10: everybody's expectations. Here, we'll just have to see how the
Speaker 10: economy reacts and how the world reacts. But I'm optimistic
Speaker 10: we can get back to free markets, we can get
Speaker 10: back to choice, and get back to things that are
Speaker 10: sensible rather than a government mandate and government government directed
Speaker 10: policies in so many areas trying to tell.
Speaker 8: Everybody what to do.
Speaker 2: I hope Ford Motor Companies learn its lesson. I hope
Speaker 2: the investors of Nicola and Rivian and also Plug Powers
Speaker 2: learned its lesson. And the money we're saving out of
Speaker 2: Doze is truly unbelievable. They want to stigmatize Elon Musk.
Speaker 2: He operates under the power of the president. He can
Speaker 2: do nothing without Donald Trump's approval. He can do nothing
Speaker 2: without Donald Trump's Okay, he can do nothing without that.
Speaker 2: And to find that waste, fraud and abuse is something
Speaker 2: I have These clips I played before about Bill Clinton
Speaker 2: talking about waste fraud and abuse, and Al Gore talking
Speaker 2: about waste fraud and abuse, and Barack Hussein Obama and
Speaker 2: Joe Biden talking about waste fraud and abuse, and now
Speaker 2: that it's being located, they don't want it to go
Speaker 2: because it's the way they get rich. I don't know
Speaker 2: how politicians go into office making one hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars a year at the max. They live
Speaker 2: in two different places and they leave worth hundreds of
Speaker 2: millions of dollars. I'm talking about Mitch McConnell and Nancy
Speaker 2: Pelosi and all the others. They're monetizing themselves. They've wasted
Speaker 2: our tax money. It's been stolen, looted, and wasted, and
Speaker 2: now we find out about it, and it's about time.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how now Ford Motor Company can
Speaker 2: continue in this course and be a functioning company.
Speaker 8: Six.
Speaker 3: I'm a Chevy kind of a guy.
Speaker 2: But on the other end of the combustion engines, they
Speaker 2: make a fortune, then they give it all away. And
Speaker 2: when you buy a combustion engine, part of the price
Speaker 2: of that is the loss of evs.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 10: Anyway, people on to get my book Green breakdown, they
Speaker 10: can learn the whole story of how this thing's all
Speaker 10: going to fall apart. And it's full of great sidebars too.
Speaker 10: For example, there's a sidebar in there. These are color
Speaker 10: sidebars that says global warming makes couples cheat. This says
Speaker 10: a dating website. This is Miami New Times the headline.
Speaker 10: So in addition to the science and economics, got all
Speaker 10: sorts of fun things in there about this mad, mad
Speaker 10: mad world of climatism. But if they go to my website,
Speaker 10: Steve Gorham G O R E H A M dot com,
Speaker 10: I'll send him a signed copy and they can learn
Speaker 10: all they need to know.
Speaker 2: You know, I think maybe after all these years we're
Speaker 2: having some measurable impact in a positive way. Steve Gorham,
Speaker 2: you're a great American, and thank you for coming on
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Steve, Thank you.
Speaker 8: Bill.
Speaker 2: Well, let's continue with more. And that's it. I've had
Speaker 2: Steve on maybe for the last ten or twelve years,
Speaker 2: and maybe there's an impact we're having with public policy,
Speaker 2: the opposite of what liberals intend. Bill Cunningham with you
Speaker 2: every Sunday Night by Billy Cunningham, The Great American. We
Speaker 2: live in a country right now logically is as pure
Speaker 2: and as good as perhaps it's been in the past
Speaker 2: one hundred years. You can look up and see a
Speaker 2: blue sky. The predictions of those on the radical left
Speaker 2: twenty five years ago that by twenty twenty five there
Speaker 2: wouldn't be any snow falling anywhere in the country, Are
Speaker 2: you kidding me? Would he aired? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: As a boy growing up in Cincinnati, Ohio, there was
Speaker 2: an occasion where you could not take fish out of
Speaker 2: the Ohio River. Of course I wouldn't have done it anyway.
Speaker 2: But right now, on a summer's evening, you can go
Speaker 2: to the Ohio or Mississippi River and watch hundreds of
Speaker 2: people taking fish out of the rivers. Because the pollution
Speaker 2: has largely subsided. We all organize ourselves against pollution, but
Speaker 2: against the idea man made global warming causing climate change.
Speaker 2: And what's happened over the past twenty five or thirty
Speaker 2: years or so is that these ideas have metastasized through
Speaker 2: the high schools and colleges, universities, and graduate schools in
Speaker 2: which a person is paid based upon their political belief.
Speaker 2: If you believe in man made global warming causing climate change.
Speaker 2: Your idea will be funded. If you believe in a lie,
Speaker 2: you'll be paid, and politicians run on the idea. I
Speaker 2: guess what that we can actually stop the earth from turning,
Speaker 2: the oceans from waving in the skies, getting rid of
Speaker 2: all the elements in the sky above which is caused
Speaker 2: by man made global warming, which we cannot do. God
Speaker 2: has corrected that we fund bad ideas that fuel public policy.
Speaker 3: And now with.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, I pray to God that is largely over.
Speaker 2: So let's continue with more. Coming up next to me
Speaker 2: Grover Norquist Americans for Tax Reform, and he's been out
Speaker 2: of for about thirty five years or so, preaching the
Speaker 2: gospel of giving Americans more of freedom by allowing them
Speaker 2: to keep more of their own money, and the centivizing
Speaker 2: the economic activity instead of trying to destroy it, and
Speaker 2: so much like with Steve gorm which I said to
Speaker 2: him earlier, I think we've had some.
Speaker 3: Measurable impact in the minds of voters.
Speaker 2: I think the same thing is true about Grover Norquest
Speaker 2: atr dot org. Bill Cunningham, the Great American with you
Speaker 2: and all of the great Americans Every Sunday By Billy
Speaker 2: Cunningham the great American. One of the great advocates for
Speaker 2: tax reform in this country is Grover north Quest. He's
Speaker 2: been fabulous on this issue for twenty or thirty years,
Speaker 2: and now things I'm almost metastasized where actually it might happen.
Speaker 2: When the Trumpster was first elected in twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 2: I thought, okay, he said and made all these promises
Speaker 2: that didn't occur, and I thought, okay, well, that's that's
Speaker 2: the way politics go. But now this time, I think
Speaker 2: maybe it's because of the last intervening four years, what
Speaker 2: he was put through, and as a consequence of that,
Speaker 2: he's now more committed than ever to doing what needs
Speaker 2: to be done. And we indicate now that he's going
Speaker 2: to go after the IRS. And Grover Norquist has written
Speaker 2: on the subject many times. They have over two thousand
Speaker 2: cars available for the IRS the cost of one hundreds
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. They have bullets, they have guns,
Speaker 2: they have ammunition. And so Grover Norquist, welcome again to
Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, tell the
Speaker 2: American people, how good do you feel now that tax
Speaker 2: reform may actually occur.
Speaker 7: Well, I think we're going to get the bill passed.
Speaker 7: The President of today tweeted out the assertion that we
Speaker 7: need now to pass one bill, not two bills. There
Speaker 7: were some well meaning people who wanted to.
Speaker 8: Do two bills. The problem is if you do two,
Speaker 8: it would never actually get done. So we are now moving.
Speaker 7: On one bill, which is the consensus issue here, and
Speaker 7: that will be a tax cut.
Speaker 8: The President's tax cut will be made permanent.
Speaker 7: It will go out indefinitely, not just for ten years,
Speaker 7: but permanently. And the good news there is that we
Speaker 7: have people will be sure and secure in what we're accomplishing,
Speaker 7: and you'll know, Okay, this is what your tax full expensing.
Speaker 7: One of the things that passed in the original bill
Speaker 7: which will be kept.
Speaker 8: The lower rate for small.
Speaker 9: Businesses will be kept.
Speaker 8: The lower rates. Every American will have lower tax.
Speaker 7: Rates than than before it because that's what was passed
Speaker 7: in the original bill. And the cheerful news that we
Speaker 7: will double the standard deduction for individuals and double the
Speaker 7: per Chiub tax credit. All of these things which passed
Speaker 7: in twenty seven will now be made permanent.
Speaker 8: It is a huge, huge step in the right direction.
Speaker 2: And as far as finding this trillion dollars, all of
Speaker 2: us assumed there was waste fraud and abuse. In fact,
Speaker 2: I've played before the cuts of Barack Hussein Obama talking
Speaker 2: about waste fraud and abuse. In nineteen ninety four, there
Speaker 2: was a big government commission put together by Bill Clinton
Speaker 2: and Al Gore, and they had these four foot high
Speaker 2: pages of rules and regulations. They said, okay, we're going
Speaker 2: after that. Then you got Joe Biden. I've played his
Speaker 2: cuts about all the waste fraud and abuse in the
Speaker 2: federal government. And I played that, and I'm thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's going to happen. Why do you believe now, Grover Norquist?
Speaker 2: I know I believe it now, which I haven't believed
Speaker 2: it until recently, that this president is serious about cutting
Speaker 2: the size and the scope of the federal government over
Speaker 2: the objections of CNN. Why this time do you have
Speaker 2: more hope than before? Because I've heard heard this song before,
Speaker 2: sung by others, But this time I believe.
Speaker 8: It several reasons.
Speaker 7: The first is that we have a Republican House and
Speaker 7: a Republican Senate. When Reagan was president, he had a
Speaker 7: Republican Senate. He had the Grace Commission report, which came
Speaker 7: out with many, many good and important ideas, some of
Speaker 7: which could be done by executive orner, but many of
Speaker 7: which required laws. And with a democratic House, nothing could
Speaker 7: actually move. Nothing could move. When the Democrats had the
Speaker 7: House in the Senate under Bill Clinton, they could say
Speaker 7: they were for all these reforms, but all those reforms
Speaker 7: reduced the number of democratic restinct workers in the country.
Speaker 8: That was never ever going to get fixed that way.
Speaker 7: The other reason to believe it is the president is
Speaker 7: now in his second term.
Speaker 8: He was here for four years. He's seen how the bureaucracy.
Speaker 7: Lies to the president about what's actually happening in each
Speaker 7: of these situations. And he had staff around him who
Speaker 7: is hardened, and they have fought these fights before.
Speaker 8: And I would add one other thing.
Speaker 7: Elon and x Elon Musk has a lot of brilliant
Speaker 7: talent which goes in and looks at the computers things
Speaker 7: you think should have been done every year for the
Speaker 7: last thirty years. For crying out loud, how in the
Speaker 7: world did they not go into these computers to say
Speaker 7: how old are the people on Social Security? Are there
Speaker 7: several people with the same Social Security number?
Speaker 8: Perhaps? You know, why in.
Speaker 7: The world did this not get exposed before? This is
Speaker 7: not you think it isn't terribly difficult. But they've gone
Speaker 7: in with people who know what to look for and
Speaker 7: how to find it, and they've been very good at it.
Speaker 7: And then the same thing happened. Add one thing x
Speaker 7: X Twitter. Right when we tried to take a good
Speaker 7: idea and publicize it to cut taxes when the Republicans
Speaker 7: took over in ninety four in the House and Senate,
Speaker 7: what happened, Well, the New York Times wasn't interested in things,
Speaker 7: and the Washington Post wasn't interested in it, and so
Speaker 7: these are just they just were not interested in getting
Speaker 7: any of these things done or in publicizing them.
Speaker 8: And says, now, what can happen As.
Speaker 7: Long as he thinks it's a good idea, you know what,
Speaker 7: it'll get talked about. It will get talked about. He
Speaker 7: will send it out and ten million people will see
Speaker 7: what's going on, and that's over. It's one of those
Speaker 7: things where frankly, they can't shut us up. They can't
Speaker 7: shut us up. They want to, but they can't.
Speaker 2: The stars have aligned, and they've aligned in ways I
Speaker 2: thought it was possible but not likely. One thing, I know,
Speaker 2: you're more familiar with the numbers than I am but
Speaker 2: the government accounting off. As GEO said in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: this is during the heyday of Joe Biden and n
Speaker 2: Kamala Harris. Now, between two hundred and fifty billion up
Speaker 2: to five hundred and fifty billion dollars a year was
Speaker 2: lost through the federal government with waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 2: Now that thing hit with a thud because nobody in
Speaker 2: the Congress, Democrats controlled it wanted to highlight the fact
Speaker 2: that every year between two hundred and fifty billion and
Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty billion is simply lost, and that
Speaker 2: thing has been resurrected. I watched the other day of
Speaker 2: the interview with my friend, my good friend Sean Hannity,
Speaker 2: and I spoke to him about a day or two
Speaker 2: thereafter to get his perspective on things with the DOGE
Speaker 2: and Elon Muskin and of course President Trump. And one
Speaker 2: thing that came out of it is the President said, look,
Speaker 2: I signed these eos, these executive orders. I sign them,
Speaker 2: but then they go into a file somewhere and nothing happens.
Speaker 2: He said, I did that in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: I signed these executive orders. So what the bureaucracy ate
Speaker 2: the homework. They didn't care. So what's different this time?
Speaker 2: Why will the bureaucracy care when Trump signs an EO.
Speaker 7: Well, they're putting people in who can actually manage that
Speaker 7: sort of thing, and that has really changed. New leadership
Speaker 7: at the head of each of these agents, at the
Speaker 7: head of each of these departments. I mean, this is
Speaker 7: just amazing what they've done. They've got some people who
Speaker 7: just are willing to say, we're doing this and I
Speaker 7: don't care to hear your objections because we've heard them before.
Speaker 7: Can you imagine, you know, some of the people that
Speaker 7: he's brought in, they have been through these wars, with
Speaker 7: these conflicts, They've dealt with this before. They know how
Speaker 7: the bureaucracy tries to get around decisions.
Speaker 8: Made by the president.
Speaker 7: And after this, the Supreme Court is now serious about life.
Speaker 7: In the past, we had a very left wing Supreme
Speaker 7: Court which would say, oh, you can't do this, and
Speaker 7: you go why not? They say, well, we'll come up
Speaker 7: with a reason why later. This is the Supreme Court
Speaker 7: that recognizes the president runs the executive office.
Speaker 8: The president runs.
Speaker 7: The executive branch, not the bureaucrats. This is not set
Speaker 7: up for bureaucrats. This is set up for the president
Speaker 7: to run it and all of the decisions they've made
Speaker 7: in the past. That allows some departments to say, this
Speaker 7: is what we're doing, and the department's going to run it,
Speaker 7: or this SEC is going to run over the FCC
Speaker 7: or one of these alphabet things. This is very, very
Speaker 7: important that we have people as cabinet officers who are
Speaker 7: willing to push for what the President asked for. We
Speaker 7: have a House and the Senate willing to investigate whenever
Speaker 7: the bureaucracy is in the way, and we have a
Speaker 7: Supreme Court that believes, yes, this is being made by us.
Speaker 7: This decision is being made by the President, not by
Speaker 7: bureau crounts.
Speaker 2: I have a list here of the age of people
Speaker 2: getting Social Security benefits.
Speaker 3: It is totally ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It wouldn't take a rocket science is to figure out
Speaker 2: something is seriously wrong with one hundred and fifty year
Speaker 2: olds getting Social Security along with a massive fraud.
Speaker 3: I have the list here.
Speaker 2: If you're between one hundred and one hundred and ten
Speaker 2: years old, that's a pretty big number. One hundred and
Speaker 2: ten years old. Four point seven million are on the
Speaker 2: roles getting Social Security. If you're one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: years old, there's one point three million getting it. If
Speaker 2: you're between ninety and one hundred and six million are
Speaker 2: getting it. There aren't that many people alive, and you
Speaker 2: would think, and according to Elon Musk, they're using the
Speaker 2: technology that was available, believe it or not, during World
Speaker 2: War Two to conduct Social Security payments. I want every
Speaker 2: recipient to get every dollar that they're entitled to, but
Speaker 2: I don't want to have Social Security tell me every
Speaker 2: year there's one hundred billion dollars missing in Social Security.
Speaker 2: There's no audit ever conducted in your business. At American
Speaker 2: tax reform, I would assume at some point somebody looks
Speaker 2: at an audit and say, we got an audit. See
Speaker 2: where the money went to do secondary proof. But with
Speaker 2: Social Security, that never happens. When I look at this
Speaker 2: list of people getting Social Security benefits, it is absurd,
Speaker 2: and Elon Musk wants to fix it now.
Speaker 3: Lastly, I know it on your website.
Speaker 2: I have many listeners believe or not, in the state
Speaker 2: of California, and they've got a terrible problem coming up
Speaker 2: because of what Gavin Newsom has done to gas prices.
Speaker 3: In the Midwest. In fact, rates are coming down.
Speaker 2: But can you tell the American people why the gasoline
Speaker 2: prices out west are ridiculously high caused by Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 7: Well, among other things, they've been not building pipelines, they've
Speaker 7: been not building refineries, and because they have taxes, they
Speaker 7: have tremendous tax taxes on energy and everything that goes
Speaker 7: into energy. The higher energy costs in California are clearly,
Speaker 7: as you point out, done by that governor and the
Speaker 7: legislature and by previous governors of legislators that said, we
Speaker 7: don't want pipelines coming into this into this beautiful state. No,
Speaker 7: they're going to have a real problem now and in
Speaker 7: the future.
Speaker 2: And in fact it's going to get worse, not better
Speaker 2: unless and people of California got to decide for themselves
Speaker 2: what the hell's going on.
Speaker 3: But tax reform is where you are.
Speaker 2: Can you envision the day Grover Norquist, maybe in two
Speaker 2: or three years, were going to have a flat tax
Speaker 2: or a value added tax that the irs will not
Speaker 2: exist and that will pay taxes when we buy something,
Speaker 2: or there will be a flat tax.
Speaker 3: Do you see that day coming?
Speaker 7: Well, I think that we can and will get to
Speaker 7: a single rate flat tax. And the reason for that
Speaker 7: is that at the state level, there are eight states
Speaker 7: where the income tax is zero.
Speaker 8: That's a flat rate. That's my favorite flat rate path.
Speaker 7: And there are fifteen other states that have single rates
Speaker 7: of two, three, or four percent. So twenty three percent
Speaker 7: of the twenty three states twenty three states, almost half
Speaker 7: have a single rate tax, either.
Speaker 8: Zero or a non zero number.
Speaker 7: There are ten states that are phasing their income taxes
Speaker 7: down to zero, where the legislature and the governor said
Speaker 7: we're on the way to zero. Here's how we're doing it,
Speaker 7: and they've passed the law to begin that March. So
Speaker 7: over the next few years, probably in three years, there
Speaker 7: will be a majority of states with a single rate tax,
Speaker 7: and ten to fifteen years from now, they'll be fully
Speaker 7: twenty states that have no income tax at all. So
Speaker 7: as a majority of the members of the House and
Speaker 7: a majority of the members of the Senate come from
Speaker 7: states with a single rate tax or a zero income tax,
Speaker 7: I could see how we do this nationally, not just
Speaker 7: in our state. It works in Texas, it works in Florida,
Speaker 7: it works in Ohio. You know, all of these states
Speaker 7: have single rate Illinois for crying out loud, has it.
Speaker 7: It's a single rate tax, and the legislature can't fix it.
Speaker 7: It can't change it because people like a single rate tax.
Speaker 7: They feel protected. They're not going to be divided into
Speaker 7: different groups and mug one at a time. So it's
Speaker 7: a huge, huge step forward.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: Lastly, you may put yourself out of business. Go over
Speaker 2: nor questatr dot org. You may be out of business
Speaker 2: with this. But now Indiana's passed. They had unanimous vote
Speaker 2: in the Senate by Democrats and Republicans in the state
Speaker 2: of Indiana to phase out the income tax. Ohio is
Speaker 2: on that route right now. It's three point five percent,
Speaker 2: is on its way to zero. And when I look
Speaker 2: at this, it has to be number one. When I
Speaker 2: watch CNN, etc. They're telling me constantly, all this is
Speaker 2: a billionaire tax build that Donald Trump wants to give
Speaker 2: tax cuts to his billionaire friends at the expense of
Speaker 2: your social security. Are you there to respond to that
Speaker 2: one at all? How about the billionaires getting tax cuts
Speaker 2: and mom and dad being thrown off a cliff totally ridiculous.
Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 7: That is what the Democrats say every time, as a
Speaker 7: tax doesn't matter what tax you're reducing, they think cutting
Speaker 7: you know, raising every tax is a good idea.
Speaker 8: And cutting any tax is a bad idea.
Speaker 7: And the American people are not buying the argument that
Speaker 7: reducing taxes for everybody is somehow gift to quote unquote billionaires.
Speaker 7: My favorite is the Democrats say, well, if you tax corporations,
Speaker 7: people don't actually pay for it. Well there is no, mister,
Speaker 7: general voters, It just isn't. If you raise taxes on
Speaker 7: general voters or the grocery store down the street.
Speaker 8: What happens.
Speaker 7: They raise the price of what they sell to get
Speaker 7: the more money, or they reduce wages or the number
Speaker 7: of people working in order to save the money that
Speaker 7: they then give to the government. They have to get
Speaker 7: the money somewhere, so they either take it out of
Speaker 7: today's payroll by paying people less or hiring fewer people,
Speaker 7: or if they can, they could raise prices, which hits consumers.
Speaker 7: And if the company's really badly damaged such that the
Speaker 7: stock goes down in the company, well, then half of
Speaker 7: American families whose pensions are determined by the ice shares
Speaker 7: of stock, will see the value of their retirement savings
Speaker 7: go down. So retirees pay the corporate income tax. Consumers
Speaker 7: pay the corporate income tax. Workers pay the corporate income tax.
Speaker 7: Some things don't pay the corporate income tax. They don't
Speaker 7: have any money. It's lungs to somebody else. And so
Speaker 7: this is you know, if General Motors spend takes a
Speaker 7: dollar and gives it to the government, that came out
Speaker 7: of workers pay, or it came out of higher prices,
Speaker 7: or it came out of collapsing value of the company.
Speaker 2: We consumers pay every corporate tax. It's not don't tax you,
Speaker 2: don't tax me, tax the guy behind the tree. When
Speaker 2: business taxes go up, consumers pay one percent of those
Speaker 2: taxes directly, or wages go down, one or the other.
Speaker 2: Once again, Grover Nor course, I'll look Ford to the
Speaker 2: days in the next few years. You and I have
Speaker 2: no reason to talk atr dot org. Americans for tax Reform.
Speaker 2: It's happened, and you may get yourself out of work,
Speaker 2: but so be it, Grover nor question. You've been fighting
Speaker 2: this thing for thirty years along with me. Thanks again
Speaker 2: for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Grover, you're
Speaker 2: a great American.
Speaker 7: Oh and absolutely, and even after we win, I'll call
Speaker 7: and we'll say hi anyway.
Speaker 2: Grover, Thank you very much. Take care all right, let's
Speaker 2: continue with more. That guy makes a whole bunch of sense.
Speaker 2: He's been at it for thirty years. Don't believe what
Speaker 2: the media tells you. You, as a consumer, pay all
Speaker 2: business taxes in the form of higher prices for goods
Speaker 2: and services. Bill Cunningham, the Great American, live with you
Speaker 2: every Sunday Night, My Billy Cunningham, the Great American. Thanks
Speaker 2: for listening tonight. As we began about almost three hours ago,
Speaker 2: this is going to be a consequential week. I can't
Speaker 2: imagine that so many federal courts will take away the
Speaker 2: power of a president. Eventually, it's going to get to
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court's going to rule
Speaker 2: in favor of Donald Trump. Very confident because they have to,
Speaker 2: that's the law. And secondly, I fear that Israel will
Speaker 2: not do what it must do for its survivability and
Speaker 2: if they don't act as if America acted in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty one through nineteen forty five, And what's the only
Speaker 2: way to have peace in the Middle East? To have
Speaker 2: total unconditional surrender by hamas by Hesbla and by Iran,
Speaker 2: that you cannot have a situation in Gaza in which
Speaker 2: Hamas is still in charge, and that somehow all the
Speaker 2: sacrifices up to this point will continue for generations to
Speaker 2: come because Israel is being restrained by European powers or
Speaker 2: others not to do what's right for their survivability. They
Speaker 2: must survive. No nation could put up with what it
Speaker 2: put up with beginning on October the seventh of about
Speaker 2: five hundred days ago. And watch the murder of the innocence,
Speaker 2: and the trade the innocent for mass murderers for everyone Israeli.
Speaker 2: It's worth more than one hundred Palestinian murderers? Are you
Speaker 2: kidding me? Somehow this must stop, and it must stop now,
Speaker 2: and Israel must win this war, and they must be
Speaker 2: unrestrained to do what they must do, especially toward Iran.
Speaker 2: The Hasbalahanim, thanks for listening, and say a prayer of
Speaker 2: gratitude for the sacrifice of so many police officers. The
Speaker 2: thin blue line between democracy and anarchy. Bill Cunningham with
Speaker 2: you every Sunday night.