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Speaker 8: Welcome gentlemen. I appreciate y'all letting me come here. You know,
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Speaker 3: Mark. Thank you, thank you for joining us. Trone and
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Speaker 3: and last but not least, to the guests of the
Speaker 3: next hour and a half, two hours or whatever it's
Speaker 3: gonna be. We got Mark from Megalithic China. Please Mark,
Speaker 3: let everybody know where they can find all your work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome, thank you, thank you. Nick. My name is
Speaker 2: Mark Leetheed and you can find my footage at YouTube
Speaker 2: dot com slash at Megalithic China. And I want to
Speaker 2: say that really I'm I'm just a guy with a camera.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a tourist pretty much, and I'm really glad
Speaker 2: to be talking and showing like lots of footage video
Speaker 2: footage today. And I want to say I brought my
Speaker 2: book today, so I'm going to be showing you like
Speaker 2: all the footage pretty much every video from from my
Speaker 2: trip to China last year. And I'm going back to
Speaker 2: China again this year. I'm just a guy with the camera,
Speaker 2: gimbal and a drone and i got four k drone
Speaker 2: sixty free incher second, so I'm hoping to fill more
Speaker 2: stuff next next time I'm in China, and so, and
Speaker 2: thanks for being here. I'm really interested to hear your
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this. There's some interesting discoveries, not discoveries,
Speaker 2: but things I saw that I think would be interesting
Speaker 2: to you. So thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Oh no, thank you appreciate it. So I guess, like,
Speaker 3: what made you decide China of all places? Or did
Speaker 3: drop it a go there? I was just like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is interesting sort of filming stuff. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to do something with this. How did that
Speaker 3: work out?
Speaker 2: Wow? Pes for sure. Well, I guess I'm as a
Speaker 2: I get right into being honest. It's been hard for
Speaker 2: me to find a job the last four years in
Speaker 2: North America. I'm I'm a Canadian. I actually have very
Speaker 2: advanced degrees. I have a PhD in biology and a
Speaker 2: BSc In also in biology, and I couldn't I couldn't
Speaker 2: get a job for about four years now. I've been applying.
Speaker 2: I've been on what's it called, like social social assistance,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is absurd. And I realized, as
Speaker 2: I guess as a man, I mean, you know, I
Speaker 2: applied to these jobs and I see discrimination in the
Speaker 2: in the in the law in North America, especially Canada
Speaker 2: America and in the West right, and I realized, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not wearing valuating in North America. I need to
Speaker 2: because I see, I understand I do have value. And
Speaker 2: so I started applying overseas, started a play I'm like China,
Speaker 2: South Korea, even the Middle East, like Saudi Arabia, right,
Speaker 2: and through teachaway dot Com, through Dave's e sl cafe,
Speaker 2: these are some place where you can find these jobs.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they offered me a job last year to
Speaker 2: go teach English and China to children. And I had
Speaker 2: like two hundred and fifty to three hundred students, and
Speaker 2: I was teaching a lot like forty five minute classes.
Speaker 2: And I was in China, and I was a big
Speaker 2: fan and viewer of Wandering Wolf Michael Collins and all
Speaker 2: his work he's done there. I'm like, well, I'm in
Speaker 2: China and I have I brought my drone and I
Speaker 2: have a gimbal, and so let's just film it and
Speaker 2: get like detailed footage. And I just ended up filming
Speaker 2: a bunch of sites. And then I went back again
Speaker 2: in March this year, twenty twenty five, and I went
Speaker 2: to Chian and filmed some of the burial pyramids with
Speaker 2: the drone beside the chie Shi Huang's terracotta soldier. I
Speaker 2: didn't go to see the Terracotta soldiers, but I went
Speaker 2: to one of the unexcavated pyramid sites of I think
Speaker 2: the Tang Dynasty. I'm sorry, I forget that wrong. That's
Speaker 2: off the top of my head. But yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: a bit a bit about me, okay. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going back to China. Sorry, just going back to
Speaker 2: China Cheach High School biology for two years. I'm actually
Speaker 2: going Tuesday. Yeah, I'm flying out this Tuesday, and yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm excited. I'm going to bring my new four K
Speaker 2: cameras and hopefully get more footage. And if you guys
Speaker 2: have any ideas of what else to film, let me know, right,
Speaker 2: Like I want to be I want to be helpful
Speaker 2: to right to you guys that just to document these places.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I guess a little further right, Like I
Speaker 2: went to long U Caves and Collins people they were
Speaker 2: making carvings in the law and they were unsure whether
Speaker 2: they carved the entire walls and it was completely destroyed.
Speaker 2: But it went back and I showed no, it's actually
Speaker 2: pretty much exactly is how Michael Collins saw it. So
Speaker 2: they haven't really touched much of the case. Very much.
Speaker 7: So that's that's exciting. That's what what's we got to do.
Speaker 2: And I feel like anyone can can can do this right,
Speaker 2: anyone can can go out and film wherever they are,
Speaker 2: and it's value, it's definitely valuable.
Speaker 6: If you are wanting to grow a YouTube, you might
Speaker 6: want to consider going to film those pyramids out there. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: those are those are something else. I don't know if
Speaker 6: that if there's if they let anybody just go and
Speaker 6: check those out and film or what, But I would
Speaker 6: I would imagine that if you threw up a video
Speaker 6: of the Chinese pyramids, Uh, you're gonna be on your way.
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, I well there's I actually I did film
Speaker 2: a couple. I brought footage of two types of braid
Speaker 2: burial peers mid Mounds in near Cheanne in the Old Capital.
Speaker 2: So I brought that footage today and hopefully Nick will
Speaker 2: be able to share that with us. But there's so
Speaker 2: many different types. I don't so when you said pyramid,
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure what type you meant, because I mean
Speaker 2: there's some that that I think. Jimmy Corsetti shared a
Speaker 2: photo of one that had like stones, actual stones, the
Speaker 2: one that I saw you can see in the bottom
Speaker 2: photo those are the Those are the two I don't
Speaker 2: know if you can see we have the full ten
Speaker 2: ADP sixteen by nine footage, right, but those are the
Speaker 2: pyramids that I went to see in March twenty twenty five.
Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, I really meant like eighty pyramid in general
Speaker 6: over there at China, Like you know, I think I
Speaker 6: think Americas have a fascination with that the more the
Speaker 6: word has gotten out about that. But also I should
Speaker 6: have said this the alleged pyramids out there as well,
Speaker 6: because there's some there's a region out there with a
Speaker 6: lot of mountains slash night might be pyramids.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the city, the nearest city is called alu
Speaker 2: pen Schwe. I mean I can write it in the chat.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that is. Yeah. I think it's
Speaker 2: a kars landscape and there's a lot of erosion. I'm
Speaker 2: not a geologist. I just learned a little bit about geology,
Speaker 2: and that's in the southwest of the country and it's yeah,
Speaker 2: I think, I mean it's it appears to be natural,
Speaker 2: but there. I mean, it would be great to at
Speaker 2: least go and document it and see right too, because
Speaker 2: there's definitely a lot of interest in that it's maybe
Speaker 2: two to three thousand kilometers away from Chien, like maybe
Speaker 2: eighteen hundred miles from Chien, which is kind of a
Speaker 2: bit far. But I'm going to be right in the
Speaker 2: center of the country, so I'm going to be man.
Speaker 2: They have trains that go one hundred and ninety miles
Speaker 2: per hour, which is insane all over the country. I was, well,
Speaker 2: I went to Yang Yang Shankori. Yeah, oh you got
Speaker 2: the map a nice yeah, exactly this. So this map
Speaker 2: is not the world's greatest map of China. And there's
Speaker 2: a couple of reasons. One is it's like for it's free.
Speaker 2: I guess it's from Wikipedia for use, I was, I
Speaker 2: didn't want a fear copyright. And two, I wanted to
Speaker 2: show that I guess the geology of China where I
Speaker 2: guess millions of years ago. If you see, this is
Speaker 2: like an elevation map, and I think yellow represents like
Speaker 2: lower elevation, and so that whole northeast part of China
Speaker 2: was probably likely underwater. And well, I mean that's it
Speaker 2: was underwater, right, because it's all like limestone, right, sedimentary
Speaker 2: rock deposit, and that's important for I guess what we're
Speaker 2: going to be talking about and showing in the next slides,
Speaker 2: talking about what yang Shankori is actually made of. Rights,
Speaker 2: it's a sedimentary type of stone and it's not like
Speaker 2: a volcanic in this formation.
Speaker 3: So it was what was up with this? I noticed
Speaker 3: it was like a computer snapshells.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah it was, so, I guess this is part
Speaker 7: not going to the flint.
Speaker 3: I guess the flint is a lot of flint over there.
Speaker 3: I assumed that's why you had this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You'll see you'll see a piece actually
Speaker 2: from yang Shang Kry looks like exactly like this piece
Speaker 2: in this this video game Piers of the Kingdom. And
Speaker 2: why I was showing this is because well one is,
Speaker 2: you'll see it's related to yang Shankory because yang Shankoy's
Speaker 2: is actually made of flint, and I'll show video and
Speaker 2: footage of that. It's pretty insane. It was a really
Speaker 2: incredible discovery. And I guess why I'm saying this is
Speaker 2: because like thirty million people purchased The Breath of the Wild,
Speaker 2: and I think twenty million people purchased Tiers of the Kingdom,
Speaker 2: So I mean they're not like mutually exclusive those two groups,
Speaker 2: but definitely at least like thirty million kids children know
Speaker 2: what flint is and know what it's used for, which
Speaker 2: is which is pretty It's pretty amazing. I mean it
Speaker 2: seems like there's like a big convergence of even adults
Speaker 2: and children getting interested in in like megalithic information and
Speaker 2: and just I saw. I think like the next generation
Speaker 2: is going to be really like I mean, you ask
Speaker 2: any child, Oh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's that's an AI image.
Speaker 2: Of the of the recreation of what I was theorizing
Speaker 2: that the Ancient Corey could be. Because actually ancient Corey
Speaker 2: there is the stone is actually flint, and it's actually
Speaker 2: mirror black. And I mean I have some a piece here.
Speaker 2: I mean we have we have high quality video footage
Speaker 2: that I was going to show you, but like the
Speaker 2: Ancient Corey, I did a I did a one hour
Speaker 2: video of uh, really close up high quality of this rock.
Speaker 2: So it's and yeah, I have I have like a
Speaker 2: like a sparker here and you can see like it
Speaker 2: creates sparks.
Speaker 3: So let's say, how our cigarette light has work? Right,
Speaker 3: don't we scrapprint against that ship?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Exactly, So I mean, you know, it's really interesting because flint.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of flint, well what's it called Steely's
Speaker 2: all over China, right, So we know that they used
Speaker 2: these like these like flint massive Steely's right where in
Speaker 2: for example, in Shaman Temple, there's lots of just these
Speaker 2: big pillars of flint and they engrave Chinese writing into it.
Speaker 2: So I know they use it for that. We know
Speaker 2: they used it likely for maybe arms, right, like firearms potentially, right,
Speaker 2: maybe bows and arrows. And I was, I guess the
Speaker 2: footage that that I have to show it shows that
Speaker 2: it's actually like a mirror reflection. And I was just
Speaker 2: I was hypothesizing, right with that that mirror photo, what
Speaker 2: if what if you like, what if you polish all
Speaker 2: of Yang Shankry, it would be like mirror black reflective.
Speaker 2: And I was thinking like maybe I don't know, yeah,
Speaker 2: like I know there's nubs on the thing. I haven't
Speaker 2: done any calculations of the nubs, but I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's it's meant to like reflect the night sky
Speaker 2: above or I mean, I don't I I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's it's just it's just a it's just a theory,
Speaker 2: just an observation. I'm not saying I'm I support the theory.
Speaker 6: Crystal a crystal ball, man, you.
Speaker 2: Could, I mean you could. I mean, you know, like
Speaker 2: infinite you know, the like obsidian infinity mirrors or obsidian mirrors. Right,
Speaker 2: it might be they might have done something with flint.
Speaker 2: But this is this is just a piece of citying
Speaker 2: to show that it's it's not obsidian, because I was
Speaker 2: thinking it was a city in but it's actually, uh flint.
Speaker 2: And it makes sense because it's it's a limestone area
Speaker 2: with sedimentary deposits whereassidian is volcanic igneous formation. Right, So
Speaker 2: this is not from yank Shikori. This is from Mexico.
Speaker 2: Somewhere in Mexico. Is from a store I to a
Speaker 2: picture of this, So just just to show that it's different.
Speaker 7: What you're saying is is once it's polished, it's it's
Speaker 7: almost indistinguishable between obsidian and the flint. Is that what
Speaker 7: you're saying? Yeah? Maybe, I mean yes, yeah, I would
Speaker 7: say so. I would say so because one is vitrious
Speaker 7: and the others is is mineral. That I don't know
Speaker 7: how to say it. It's it's it's it's not vitrious,
Speaker 7: but I as you showed it. Yeah, I never thought
Speaker 7: about that of of of flint that you could polish
Speaker 7: it to get that effect. It's it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really it's it is really interesting. And
Speaker 2: wonder I wonder what else they have in China like
Speaker 2: buried in these unexcavated tombs. I'm not saying we should
Speaker 2: excavate them, but I mean I wonder if there's any
Speaker 2: any like flint.
Speaker 7: Mirrors or or.
Speaker 2: I don't know flint. I don't know what else could
Speaker 2: there could be. I don't know flint statues, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: so this this photo, I guess is well. Also went
Speaker 2: to this is artificial intelligence, this is AI, right, So yeah,
Speaker 2: I went to Also what's it called the Longlan grottos
Speaker 2: and Longman grottos?
Speaker 7: Is they have like these?
Speaker 2: I also had video footage of long Lan grottos they
Speaker 2: carved the buddhas into the side of I guess another
Speaker 2: flint outcrop in the middle of China in about fifteen
Speaker 2: hundred years ago. And it's also flint, and you can
Speaker 2: also polish it and it's it can also you can
Speaker 2: polish it black like this, right.
Speaker 7: The the I guess.
Speaker 2: The first image that showed it showed it was all gray,
Speaker 2: but I mean it could be it could be polished
Speaker 2: completely black also So but did.
Speaker 7: You find ever any type of art using flint that
Speaker 7: it was polished there or nothing? I that's a good question. Well,
Speaker 7: there there is a well.
Speaker 2: In at the Shellling Temple they had this these steelies
Speaker 2: with like a turtle base and people would rub the
Speaker 2: head of the turtle base and you could see that
Speaker 2: it was polished and it's completely reflective. And I I
Speaker 2: also have a video of that I sent. I sent
Speaker 2: like a brazilion links to to nick.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: We're bouncing between the the the the orders. But yeah,
Speaker 2: so I don't know if it was intended to be
Speaker 2: black to start. Perhaps it was especially long lan grottoes.
Speaker 2: It seems like it could have been, because it's very
Speaker 2: well carved and cut out right yang Shan Kory. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. The tool marks are very are very rough
Speaker 2: and crude on Yan Shan Cory, so I don't see
Speaker 2: any Actually, I don't see how they probably polished it.
Speaker 2: They probably just chiseled away for yank Shan Kry.
Speaker 7: I know it's it's digressing a little bit, but it's
Speaker 7: the elephant in the room when we talk about yang
Speaker 7: Shan quory. What do you think happened to the material
Speaker 7: removed because it's it's nowhere. Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's that's why I'm wondering. Well, a
Speaker 2: lot of there are a lot of these like big
Speaker 2: rectangular steelies throughout China, right that they write being grave
Speaker 2: whatever history they in there, And there's a lot of those,
Speaker 2: I mean yang Shan Cory. They're massive blocks, but they
Speaker 2: aren't removed from the quarry, right, yeah, exactly. Yeah, So,
Speaker 2: so I mean they're not Yeah, they're not technically megalist
Speaker 2: because they haven't really been cut and moved right like
Speaker 2: in in Babeck. But so, I mean I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know where the material went to be honest. I
Speaker 2: mean I think it was just used throughout I mean,
Speaker 2: unless they're buried in the like the unexcavated pyramid tombs,
Speaker 2: like the mounds right like in in like the Terracotta soldiers.
Speaker 2: I think I think there's pieces of flints that were
Speaker 2: found there, and maybe they were buried in the excavated
Speaker 2: tombs as well. We never know.
Speaker 6: I don't know if these people were seafaring. That stuff
Speaker 6: could be anywhere.
Speaker 7: It's just a matter of time. If we think in
Speaker 7: this short amount of time, it's hard to get rid
Speaker 7: of all of the material is extracted. But if we
Speaker 7: think in a vast span of years, then it's perfectly
Speaker 7: possible that they take even if a small bit at
Speaker 7: a time, so they could just carve it off. Why
Speaker 7: they leave those invitations in the stones that are there,
Speaker 7: like that middle one, and why they took the trouble
Speaker 7: to carve and leave the nubs out, because that's how
Speaker 7: you leave enough. You have to carve the rest of
Speaker 7: the face of the stone to leave just a enob right,
Speaker 7: So that's why it proves they are intentional. Why they
Speaker 7: did it is for anyone's guess, right, But they could
Speaker 7: slowly take the material out, and as Tim said, it
Speaker 7: could go anywhere in the world.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I've talked to people, really, really good, thorough
Speaker 6: researchers who believe that people from China came over here
Speaker 6: to North America well before Columbus, well before Columbus. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and and other places, not just North America. But they
Speaker 6: had ships probably much longer ago than history has given.
Speaker 7: Them credit for. Oh no, they had, So I've talked
Speaker 7: of this several times. In the one thousand BC, they
Speaker 7: had ships that make look the Portuguese caravels as as
Speaker 7: as a whole nuts shell, just huge. They were the
Speaker 7: size of tourist ships today, huge, huge, jute, enormous, and
Speaker 7: they go with with fleet over five hundred and six hundred,
Speaker 7: six six hundred boats with smaller ones and medium ones
Speaker 7: and these gigantic ones, and they do this go through
Speaker 7: the Indian go around, and that's the reason why the
Speaker 7: Portuguese were successful when they found the Indies, because when
Speaker 7: they go around and they reach the the eastern area
Speaker 7: of Africa, the eastern coast, there was still this myths
Speaker 7: of this because it was repeated. This was lost, this
Speaker 7: seafaring Chinese thing was lost for a long time, and
Speaker 7: then it was revisualized about five hundred, four hundred years
Speaker 7: before the fifteen hundreds, so there was still in the
Speaker 7: grand grandfathers, there was still this memory of these ships
Speaker 7: carrying gifts and offering people because what the Chinese gave
Speaker 7: was actually gold, silver jewels. They actually witch there with
Speaker 7: these things and they give this to these people. This
Speaker 7: is record in this in their anals of history and
Speaker 7: so when the Portuguese arrived, there was still the echoes
Speaker 7: of these myths, and they welcomed them, thinking it was
Speaker 7: the Chinese coming back with the gold and the silver.
Speaker 7: And they got chickens and stuff like that and some clothes.
Speaker 7: But that's why the Portuguese were welcomed, because the Chinese's
Speaker 7: had this long history of seafaring, and who knows where
Speaker 7: they could reach with such a big boats. They could
Speaker 7: go to America, they could go everywhere. There's no stopping
Speaker 7: a ship like that. And sorry I took too long.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to point out too, the Silk Road
Speaker 4: was a very institutionalized trade process, not just random route
Speaker 4: for random people. It was you know, very thoroughly built
Speaker 4: up in terms of water along the way and different
Speaker 4: stops and so forth. So even just the Silk Road
Speaker 4: would have potentially brought out, you know, all kinds of
Speaker 4: material for sure.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 6: I mean empires were built on that Silk Road, yeah.
Speaker 6: And I mean if these, if these mines are quarries
Speaker 6: in China, are anything like our copper mines out here
Speaker 6: in our royal in the Great Lakes, I mean those
Speaker 6: were Phoenicians. I think Phoenicians coming over here and taking
Speaker 6: that copper and fueling the bronze age across an entire oce. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so you know, there's there's a lot of really cool
Speaker 6: possibilities here with what these coreries could have actually been
Speaker 6: purpose for.
Speaker 5: There's actually stories about explorers from China coming over to
Speaker 5: the Mediterranean and trying to figure out where Rome is
Speaker 5: and they almost made it, and they talked to a
Speaker 5: couple of traders and they're like, oh, yeah, Rome's over there,
Speaker 5: and they're like, all right, well, we're just gonna stop
Speaker 5: and go back to China now. So you had people
Speaker 5: like Julius Caesar wearing these robes made out of silk
Speaker 5: that came from China. But you know, they never really
Speaker 5: had that connection, at least in terms of what was
Speaker 5: written down. I'm sure there was a lot of people
Speaker 5: that just you know, migrated back and forth on the
Speaker 5: self Road. But yeah, all of these things were traded
Speaker 5: at different trading hubs along the way, so you would
Speaker 5: only go, you know, half a stretch and then you
Speaker 5: plunk it down, sell it there, and then it would
Speaker 5: be retraded and sold for other places when it was
Speaker 5: going along the Silk Road. So there was a lot
Speaker 5: of culture of the usual, even though it was maybe
Speaker 5: less connected than just the interpersonal level.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's the end of that Silk Road because
Speaker 7: of the political changes on the area. Was what led
Speaker 7: to the creation of the Crusades and then the exploration
Speaker 7: of the new ways for sea on the fifteen hundreds,
Speaker 7: because they needed a new route to India to get
Speaker 7: to stuff, because they couldn't take the Silk Road anymore
Speaker 7: because the warfares between the people that back then, they
Speaker 7: lost the control of the road, so they couldn't do
Speaker 7: it anymore. So that's why they had to seek a
Speaker 7: new way. And that's when ships were again developed and
Speaker 7: starting thinking how to do it, and old maps reborn,
Speaker 7: and because of their so much secret today we lost.
Speaker 7: The ancient maps were lost because they either copied them
Speaker 7: to the new maps and destroyed the old ones or
Speaker 7: store them so high, so so good that we never
Speaker 7: found them again. Like the pie Raise map was made
Speaker 7: of several maps, not just one or two maps. It
Speaker 7: was several maps actually used to create the p Rais
Speaker 7: math for instance. But that's I or others like that one.
Speaker 4: From what I understand of Chinese history, just to point
Speaker 4: out there were times when they were more seafaring, and
Speaker 4: even you know, had a large navy to attack Japan,
Speaker 4: and there were a few instances where they lost all
Speaker 4: their entire fleeting navy, right and so, and particularly in
Speaker 4: attacking Japan at least twice in just exploration and kind
Speaker 4: of diplomatic pursuits, and they kind of from what I understand,
Speaker 4: at least culturally closed off to that idea of embarking
Speaker 4: in seafaring ways.
Speaker 7: Sure, and then we're the Japanese that tried to invade
Speaker 7: China afterwards, small small country against Chinabo. Funny, it's like Portugal.
Speaker 3: Uh, Mark, would you like me to pull up that
Speaker 3: first video that you had on your PDF list phone?
Speaker 7: Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, please, Yeah, that'd be great. That'd be great.
Speaker 7: Here we go, Mark. From your perspective, do you think
Speaker 7: that that is the most efficient way of carving the
Speaker 7: stone or there was some other reason for some of
Speaker 7: the structures we find they're still on the bedrock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it looks like it was hand chiseled.
Speaker 2: That's what it looks like when you're up close. Because
Speaker 2: you could see, especially on the inside right, with the
Speaker 2: inside shots where the corners meet, you could see It's
Speaker 2: not like it's not precise. It's kind of you can
Speaker 2: just see, like the chisel lines go all the way down,
Speaker 2: so you can see someone like hammering and chiseling all
Speaker 2: the way through. And I mean, like the.
Speaker 7: Chisel marks are.
Speaker 2: Maybe about maybe an inch wide right all the way down,
Speaker 2: and it's pretty sporadic. So I think, I mean, I
Speaker 2: can see how someone or a group of people could
Speaker 2: have hand chiseled the entire site. Another thing is maybe
Speaker 2: it was quoried at different times by different people through time, right,
Speaker 2: because you mentioned before the nubs Ricardo, right, Yeah, like
Speaker 2: the nubs, they definitely are intentional. It definitely seems like
Speaker 2: right to put the effort in creating those those nubs.
Speaker 2: But they're not they're not precise nubs, right, they're actually
Speaker 2: true crude.
Speaker 7: All of it, All of it is right, all of it.
Speaker 7: You didn't find anything that is quite particularly exquisite in
Speaker 7: finishing or anything like that.
Speaker 2: No, exactly, except there's always one piece like the back,
Speaker 2: so it was crude. But the back of that long
Speaker 2: piece where they they it's actually very flat. It's very
Speaker 2: it's not it's not it's not like precise, but over
Speaker 2: maybe like ten twenty feet it's straight, right, it's actually
Speaker 2: like straight back, not this piece, but the.
Speaker 7: Deone with the full windows and then the nubs right, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2: The one behind it, the really the long skinny one.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, it's just it's this is a
Speaker 2: you can see the person up top there the I
Speaker 2: don't know if you can see the person in white
Speaker 2: up there, just some drone introducing the.
Speaker 7: It's like a mosquito on an elephant. Yeah, and I
Speaker 7: left there. Sorry, go ahead, I was you can keep going.
Speaker 6: I don't want to derail you, but I was going
Speaker 6: to ask you at some point, what what are the
Speaker 6: local legends concerning this, concerning the people did it and
Speaker 6: were they people? Were they giants? We see a lot
Speaker 6: of that here in our legends in North America.
Speaker 2: So yes, I I'm I'm looking at my phone now
Speaker 2: because I have I took photos of the of the
Speaker 2: signs at Yang Shankry. I have it on my on
Speaker 2: my phone, so I don't want to get it wrong.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to make sure. So they
Speaker 2: say that it was I mean, I think you might
Speaker 2: know the story as I did. But they were, like
Speaker 2: they say, they wanted to build like a base, a
Speaker 2: steely and a head, right, in China, there's like the
Speaker 2: base and then like the steely is the long skinny
Speaker 2: part and in the head, and they say that they
Speaker 2: want to use that long I guess the long flat
Speaker 2: piece as the steely to put it vertical, which I
Speaker 2: think is a very difficult task to do. I mean,
Speaker 2: I have some of the measurements of the of the
Speaker 2: steely here, so yeah, I mean it's they're saying they
Speaker 2: were they were. It was built by Emperor Xu d
Speaker 2: in the year thirteenth where he lived from thirteen sixty
Speaker 2: to fourteen twenty four of the Ming dynasty, so they're
Speaker 2: saying it's only like maybe six seven hundred years old. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But I.
Speaker 9: Mean I'm wondering if the local people have a different
Speaker 9: thought on what this was built for, you know what,
Speaker 9: wonder what the narrative is off the plaques.
Speaker 7: Yes, I I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will be honest, I I don't. Again, I
Speaker 2: started as saying I'm just the guy with the camera.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd love to I'm curious. I want to
Speaker 2: know more. I'm not like, I'm not denying my curiosity,
Speaker 2: but it's just like I I don't know the especially
Speaker 2: like I didn't community with any locals when I when
Speaker 2: I went, unfortunately, and I took pictures of the sign.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, I mean I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't fair enough. That's fair enough.
Speaker 7: So simplifying that question would be, uh, do they think
Speaker 7: because from my perspective and I know very little of this,
Speaker 7: they think this as a pure industrial site. They don't
Speaker 7: attribute it to any We don't find any ceremonial caves
Speaker 7: or anything like that. It's just a workplace where they
Speaker 7: came and took stone off and it's almost like someone
Speaker 7: decided to take some liberties with the blocks that were
Speaker 7: left there, and they carved these false windows and took
Speaker 7: the nubs at the same time. And probably it was
Speaker 7: just a block like the one that we're seeing with
Speaker 7: the person on to the right. It's just a block
Speaker 7: that was left and and and and quarried. So I
Speaker 7: don't know if there is any actual any that would
Speaker 7: be interesting. If there is any legends, Do you know
Speaker 7: anything about that?
Speaker 3: I do not.
Speaker 2: I also when you first said about any you know,
Speaker 2: you know how like some places they dig a little
Speaker 2: I forget the word, like a place of honor, someone
Speaker 2: like you know, a niche create a niche yeah, niche, Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's there's none here. There's not a single one here,
Speaker 2: which is strange because at long and Grottos there's niches
Speaker 2: everywhere all around the Buddha carvings, right, but here's the
Speaker 2: not a single one. So it's there's no it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like there's any spiritual or ceremonial purposes to this
Speaker 2: other than the actual items. And as Ricardo said at
Speaker 2: the start, like that's a massive amount of material that's
Speaker 2: been removed. If you look to the left, right, bottom, left,
Speaker 2: you especially there's there's you can see the cut marks
Speaker 2: in the ground right showing that they did quarry all
Speaker 2: that flint stone left of that megal lift at the
Speaker 2: bottom there. So they did move. They did move a
Speaker 2: massive amount of stone. Whether it was all when it
Speaker 2: was large or not, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: if they broke it up into smaller pieces. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's just the region around.
Speaker 7: I must say that the fact that the camera lift
Speaker 7: up and we can't start seeing civilization around takes a
Speaker 7: little bit of the mystic of the place because but
Speaker 7: those have never seen it, it looks like it's it's
Speaker 7: a priestine in the middle of the forest or a
Speaker 7: desert area, start to access and then it's like the pyramids.
Speaker 7: You find Oh it's amazing, and you raise your eyes
Speaker 7: and this is this vast city of that doesn't look
Speaker 7: as good. Let's split it that way.
Speaker 2: Interesting exactly, we'll see it's it's website Nanjing, which has
Speaker 2: like ten million people. And I mean I took a
Speaker 2: train at three hundred kilometers per hour, like one hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety miles per hour. I took a taxi here.
Speaker 2: I mean it was. It was really amazing, really easy
Speaker 2: to get to. Thank you, thank goodness for Michael Collins's
Speaker 2: video how to get there and give me the courage
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 7: So he's amazing goodness to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah for sure.
Speaker 3: Switch over to I think another video you gave me too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 7: See, I wish the video.
Speaker 3: This is just.
Speaker 2: We got a bunch. So yeah, this is the walk up.
Speaker 2: So this is like the first I guess I took
Speaker 2: a two hour video right walking with ten edp with
Speaker 2: my Samsung S twenty fee and with a gimbal, and
Speaker 2: so the first like three minutes into it, you immediately
Speaker 2: see the I guess we'll talk about the parts first,
Speaker 2: So you see, like the nubs are are pretty pretty. Course,
Speaker 2: it's quite large. If you want to fast forward to
Speaker 2: maybe two or three minutes in, it starts showing the flint. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so yeah, that's like some those are some of the
Speaker 2: two marks. So you can see it's like pretty pretty crude.
Speaker 2: So you can see it really doesn't look like it
Speaker 2: was I mean, it looks like it could have been
Speaker 2: done with a hand in chisel, right, just like chiseling
Speaker 2: away at it. And so it's coming up here, so
Speaker 2: what you can see is that you can actually polish it, right,
Speaker 2: And so I'm looking at to marks, but I haven't
Speaker 2: I haven't noticed the flint yet. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Probably so it's their feet there to go in there
Speaker 7: or something and it gets smolished.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: I know flint. Google tells me flint has a hardness
Speaker 2: scale of seven on the most scale. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think with steel you can just like walk
Speaker 2: on steel and it's like polished and softened. So I
Speaker 2: think this flint might be a little softer than seven. Right,
Speaker 2: So this part, this part really blew my mind because
Speaker 2: it's like I realized, Wow, this isn't gray, this is
Speaker 2: I thought it was blue. I thought it was a bluestone.
Speaker 2: That's why it was a photo of a soda light,
Speaker 2: which is a blue igneous rock. But after doing my
Speaker 2: all your research, I realized this is a sedimentary region
Speaker 2: and discovered I guess shadow throwkup in the YouTube comments
Speaker 2: he was on first to mention flint because yeah, and
Speaker 2: so I thought it was blue. But then when I
Speaker 2: when I brought it home and I filmed in like
Speaker 2: a white box, I realized it's it's it's actually black,
Speaker 2: and it's it's reflecting the sky. It's reflecting like the
Speaker 2: sky because it was a really blue blue sky that day.
Speaker 7: You see, it's this way that they decided to quarry
Speaker 7: the rock. It's it's far from being the most effective
Speaker 7: because you go from the top to down. You don't.
Speaker 7: You don't because this way you have to carve. You
Speaker 7: have to quarry much more, because you have to separate
Speaker 7: the top the sides so you have all the work
Speaker 7: instead of coming from top to bottom and taking what
Speaker 7: you need, which to me a little bit of either
Speaker 7: they wanted this specific area because it was richer in
Speaker 7: this mineral or we had to test the stone to
Speaker 7: see if there is more flint in here than in
Speaker 7: other places, or or if this flint has a different quality.
Speaker 7: But it's obvious that they decided to take this this
Speaker 7: box on this side on the other and didn't take
Speaker 7: the rest right, and then that's what I found period
Speaker 7: in a place that has no ceremonial indicancies or or
Speaker 7: or any kind of ricardo.
Speaker 5: It could go back to the idea that the uh,
Speaker 5: there's something in the sedimentary rock because as you can
Speaker 5: as you can see like this is a big chunk
Speaker 5: that's taken directly out of the middle exactly indicates to
Speaker 5: me that there could be like a vein of something
Speaker 5: that they were going for specifically inside of this rock formation,
Speaker 5: because you know.
Speaker 7: It is excellent point, excellent point, excellent point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I know flint is silicon dioxide. Also
Speaker 2: it's it's like a crypto crystalline form of quartz with
Speaker 2: makes it really interesting, right because I know, because grantede
Speaker 2: has in like the quartzite, and I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: i've I've I've heard about piso electric energy and right
Speaker 2: hitting and hitting the stone and maybe it creates energy.
Speaker 2: Who knows it really.
Speaker 8: Just Ricardo the man for that for that, oh really,
Speaker 8: oh for pilectric energy.
Speaker 7: For that. Yeah. I'm not aware of the properties of
Speaker 7: that particular area or the conductivity of of flint because
Speaker 7: I never look into it. It doesn't appear in European
Speaker 7: or a history of that. But but I will look
Speaker 7: into it because it's obviously they took this piece. I
Speaker 7: think that that the tablets here is correct. There is
Speaker 7: something that they wanted to take on his probably even
Speaker 7: you remember that ball that you showed that video with
Speaker 7: your large ball. They could have a massive block of
Speaker 7: of of flint here that they wanted to use for something,
Speaker 7: and so they quarried it because they knew it was inside.
Speaker 6: I agree with that. I think earlier when you pan
Speaker 6: out and you look at some of those drum shots,
Speaker 6: they were corrying this straight out of a mountain range.
Speaker 6: So there's going to be a vein of whatever the
Speaker 6: substance was in that mountain range.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because uh, in terms of geology, I would really
Speaker 7: like to say that I know how is the piz
Speaker 7: of electric conductivity of this this mineral, but I really don't,
Speaker 7: but I will soon. I will because I never look
Speaker 7: at this quarry as something that that was used in
Speaker 7: terms of any functionalities in that respect by by using
Speaker 7: the tillerc energies, the Piazzo natural Pizzo electricity and the
Speaker 7: excitement of the crystal matrix inside the rock. I never
Speaker 7: thought about it on on on on this discuory, but
Speaker 7: it's interesting because the Piazzo electric is very simple. The
Speaker 7: fact that stone is huge is enough. Now, I don't
Speaker 7: know if this area you might know, is this area
Speaker 7: has any fault lines underwater ways, sorry, underground water ways
Speaker 7: does have anything of that? Any river close to this.
Speaker 2: This it's by a pretty large river. It's near a.
Speaker 7: River, but no fault lines in this area.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Okay, Mark, if you ever get a chance,
Speaker 5: go out there and look up the formula for the
Speaker 5: Helmholtz residents. It will actually measure the Helmholtz residents of
Speaker 5: all these different chambers that they've blocked out, and you
Speaker 5: could tell which type of you know, note that it
Speaker 5: would resonate at. And you can actually, you know, calculate
Speaker 5: these because who knows they might have been using these
Speaker 5: for resonators. They look pretty solidly, you know, constructed. I mean,
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're gonna compare this to tenet
Speaker 5: long barrow or short barrow, You're probably not gonna get
Speaker 5: the same kind of thing. But if they're going for
Speaker 5: the basics, you know, you just take out chunks and
Speaker 5: you make it, you know, resonate in those ways. So
Speaker 5: something having to do with reson residents as well.
Speaker 7: Well, we've seen we've seen several of these sacred places
Speaker 7: that were not polished. Uh And if you look at this,
Speaker 7: is this difference from a studio that is programmed to
Speaker 7: concentrate the sound or absorb or don't play it out,
Speaker 7: or it's it's the same roughness kind of that that nest.
Speaker 7: That's a sponge that you will apply to the walls
Speaker 7: to annulate the sound. And here can be making something
Speaker 7: completely different. I don't know. You could put someone in
Speaker 7: these niches and drumming and you'll create a most must
Speaker 7: a better effect that you are on the open for sure,
Speaker 7: But it's very hard to tell. It's it's almost impossible
Speaker 7: to determine in these cases because there's nothing to be written.
Speaker 7: And the Chinese are not very good at translating their history.
Speaker 7: They don't hide it, but they don't translate it. So
Speaker 7: it's it's hard for occidentals to read it.
Speaker 6: The site does remind me a bit of uh Napa
Speaker 6: Iglesia in Peru, which is also in a mountain, in
Speaker 6: a mountain range, and it has some of the same
Speaker 6: strange cut It looks like they cut windows or portholes
Speaker 6: into the blocks. That site has this too, just throwing
Speaker 6: it in there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what's the name Iglicia? Uh yeah in a u
Speaker 7: p a.
Speaker 6: Eglecia with an eye okay, and it's the sacred site.
Speaker 6: Sacred site, very mystical up in a cave in a
Speaker 6: mountain has very similar there's I'm just going to call
Speaker 6: them windows because you know, they kind of look like
Speaker 6: they cut windows into these rocks. It's very similar to this.
Speaker 7: Yeah. It instead of false doors, it's a common feature.
Speaker 7: It's a false windows, you can call it. Yes, Brew
Speaker 7: is lousy with them.
Speaker 5: They've got all sorts of false doors, all sorts of
Speaker 5: false windows everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 3: Something I did want to mention a real quick Ricardo,
Speaker 3: this could be wrong. I looked up stuff this according
Speaker 3: to chat GPT. Sorry I as said about flint and
Speaker 3: electricity and page electricity, it actually says it's it's resistivity
Speaker 3: is so high that for everyday purposes, is not conduct electricity.
Speaker 3: And it does go into explaining why. But uh, maybe
Speaker 3: because of its resistance that could still be important. I
Speaker 3: don't know, because of the way that they're separated that
Speaker 3: there isn't stuff in between.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but if you'll find that has a first answer
Speaker 7: to almost everything that you ask him, you have to
Speaker 7: ask him specifically if you can use splint as a
Speaker 7: highly conductive material from so you can transform polarity, because otherwise,
Speaker 7: even at crystal, he will answer that, and he's highly
Speaker 7: resistant to electricity, and yet he's one of the best conductors.
Speaker 7: I noticed that GPT.
Speaker 4: If I said a broad question, it said no, essentially
Speaker 4: to your point.
Speaker 6: And then if I said, well did you read this study?
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Now would you answer further in particular? Oh yeah, this
Speaker 4: is totally possible and highly likely, and here's the chemical analysis.
Speaker 4: I would just to back up your point of the
Speaker 4: difficulty of learning Chinese history, even with out the language barrier,
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 6: And space involved is so vast the language.
Speaker 5: Sorry, well, I was just going to say that nub
Speaker 5: on top is very interesting right above that crevice, and
Speaker 5: it's very intentionally cut out there. That's crazy. We go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like an angle vertically.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, I was just saying the length and breadth of
Speaker 6: Chinese history makes it very difficult and murky. The resonant
Speaker 6: the frequency thing is very interesting to me. I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm thinking about jade. We know these cultures revered jade,
Speaker 6: and I've the scene studies done on jade, and apparently
Speaker 6: it has a resonance frequency. And you can go way
Speaker 6: way down the rabbit hole with this, like the uses
Speaker 6: for jade in the ancient world. Who knows what they
Speaker 6: were doing doing with it, but I've even seen it
Speaker 6: on the table as a possible possible use in like
Speaker 6: flight and like ancient flying devices. Like I say, you
Speaker 6: can get kind of crazy with some of these theories.
Speaker 6: But jade has the resonance frequency.
Speaker 7: All all of the crystals. That's why you can put
Speaker 7: them on your clock and it works because it's it's
Speaker 7: it's always in the same way. They are known for
Speaker 7: being very precise, and that's how clocks and they use.
Speaker 8: They use that and uh, they use that in watches.
Speaker 8: That that type of materia is just talking about.
Speaker 7: Exactly because they they have they maintained the exact same
Speaker 7: uh modulation and in their frequency, and so the time
Speaker 7: is kept correct. I think that's the most accurate way
Speaker 7: they keep time, right, Yeah, exactly. It's when you look
Speaker 7: at this and although we know we discussed this before
Speaker 7: here that there is no signs that is anything else
Speaker 7: than an industrial complex. And then you notice that they
Speaker 7: leave those kind of benches in the middle and like
Speaker 7: a ceremonial table there. Look that looks like a bench.
Speaker 7: Why was that block left there? Was not needed or
Speaker 7: there were some ecstactical purposes. It's very strange.
Speaker 5: I think it could go back to that nub again,
Speaker 5: because that nub could be the central location of where
Speaker 5: you're trying to achieve the resonance. So all of these
Speaker 5: areas that's going to reflect the sound, and you add
Speaker 5: those benches or you leave the benches there because that's
Speaker 5: going to distort and create a different resonance frequency. And
Speaker 5: then right across from it, hanging down, you could have
Speaker 5: some sort of collector for this resident energy.
Speaker 7: Sure, you can even lay down on that huge block
Speaker 7: that is to the right now in the middle. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that that block there, If you lay down on top
Speaker 7: and and and some frequency is introduced, the resonance might
Speaker 7: have some effects because you're receiving it straight from the stone.
Speaker 7: And even even in Native there is this kind of structure.
Speaker 7: I was informed by James mcafelly, that is the top
Speaker 7: expert in in uh in the Pilot Mountain, that that
Speaker 7: Nick Luckier, luckier than I am, spent fuld some time
Speaker 7: with him. And do you see that where you take
Speaker 7: those pictures that there is a slab of rock slightly inclined.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it looks like they were chair or somebody.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, where they're chanting there and the fellow lay
Speaker 7: down on that stone.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: It's actually okay, So that's some there is some myth
Speaker 7: as as as Jonna was saying, I think about this
Speaker 7: chanting there and creating sound there and someone laid down
Speaker 7: on the slab and have these experiences or he might
Speaker 7: be the same thing here.
Speaker 5: Now I've got a question, was all of the areas
Speaker 5: that are in between those two rock faces, was that all.
Speaker 7: Rock at some point? That's what we are told. Everything
Speaker 7: was covered that that that bluff would go way to
Speaker 7: the end of all of this carving, right, this is
Speaker 7: what was left behind. You see and see this extraction
Speaker 7: of material is highly an effective, very difficult to do
Speaker 7: instead of just take the block of stone piece by piece.
Speaker 7: So it is intentional. It's as intentional as the nups.
Speaker 7: So but what was the functionality? That's what we don't know.
Speaker 6: It looks like somebody came in after this was done
Speaker 6: and was breaking off pieces of stone for something else,
Speaker 6: for like local use.
Speaker 3: What what did you when did you say?
Speaker 8: My next question is any of that material you'll found
Speaker 8: locally since there's cities around it. That's what my next
Speaker 8: question was.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess the steelyes the large pillars, right, they
Speaker 2: like the large rectangular pillars that they like engrave information in.
Speaker 2: You can find them around the city. You find them
Speaker 2: all throughout China, and especially as there's in in Nanjing.
Speaker 2: There's definitely pillars. There was a there's like massacre in Nanjing,
Speaker 2: I think about fifty years ago pardon my ignorance on
Speaker 2: the on the wrong date, and they have these pillars
Speaker 2: with like engravings of so they use they use the
Speaker 2: flint for for the steels and stuff in the area.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it could be it could be
Speaker 2: quarried at many different times potentially, I don't know, But yeah,
Speaker 2: this piece does seem intentionally carved for sure, with purpose.
Speaker 2: It's a huge effort to do that.
Speaker 3: Something I whanted to ask you again. I'm sorry. You know,
Speaker 3: we talked about it earlier. When was this supposedly built
Speaker 3: again that you were.
Speaker 2: Saying, the sign says, what was it thirteen No, thirteen
Speaker 2: sixty to fourteen twenty four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they was. I did find something that they said
Speaker 3: some of the chisel marks seems to match stuff not
Speaker 3: too far off in the area from around fourteen hundred
Speaker 3: to fifteen hundred. So, like, I guess those markings on
Speaker 3: there might actually be considered chisel marks some of the
Speaker 3: things that we were looking at earlier. That's what made
Speaker 3: me look it up. But I guess it matches the time.
Speaker 3: I was just wondering if it was different.
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't understand. You said.
Speaker 3: It was like it looked like there was chisel marks
Speaker 3: or something that was on like on the place. It
Speaker 3: looked like, you know, to me, it looked like carvings
Speaker 3: possibly to like try to make something look a certain way, Well,
Speaker 3: it's just look chiseled. And I was trying to like
Speaker 3: look up the date of the of the place, and
Speaker 3: it ended up coming up saying the brown fourteen fifteen
Speaker 3: hundreds is that it matches other stuff not too far away,
Speaker 3: going by the chiseling design, the way it's done.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 3: No, that's why I was just asking it. It's around
Speaker 3: the same time. I just was wondering if maybe that
Speaker 3: was old or newer. I mean, it's like one hundred
Speaker 3: years old, so I mean the seams, shit.
Speaker 6: It looks like you could climb up in those windows
Speaker 6: and lay in there on that inner slab if you
Speaker 6: were looking to this as a healing location. I've seen
Speaker 6: some of these, like there's one in Gerona. There's a
Speaker 6: big stone out there in Spain where people go and
Speaker 6: they lay on the stone. They say they can feel
Speaker 6: the stone vibrating and it's supposed to heal your ailments.
Speaker 7: That's how was that pie of mine?
Speaker 8: When I took my shoes and my boots off, my
Speaker 8: socks and my boots off, man, you put feel it
Speaker 8: on the ground. Yeah, Man, it definitely felt a different way.
Speaker 10: Bro.
Speaker 8: I ain't never had that type of feeling ever. And
Speaker 8: I walk outside, you know, in barefoot a lot of
Speaker 8: times to them, you know, you know, in the yard
Speaker 8: and stuff like that, And man, I ain't never felt
Speaker 8: nothing like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I've been up there to Pilot Mountain too.
Speaker 6: I want to go back and take my shoes off
Speaker 6: next time, though, man. I mean, but it did. There
Speaker 6: was a feeling about that place. And I mean even now,
Speaker 6: like even modern day, like in where I live in
Speaker 6: the city where I live here, there's a there's like
Speaker 6: a marble uh circle, like a little courtyard, and they've
Speaker 6: got a vibrating stone in the middle of it. So
Speaker 6: you can go up and touch the stone and you
Speaker 6: can feel it vibrating. So there's there's something to all this,
Speaker 6: you know, that's still tangible today.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 5: Oh about the I was going to ask about the
Speaker 5: culture in the nearby town, do they still have like
Speaker 5: a traditional of a tradition of TCM practices and more
Speaker 5: naturalistic healing, because that could be a result of a
Speaker 5: long forgotten culture that you know, valued this kind of stuff.
Speaker 7: Sorry, what's TCM practice is?
Speaker 5: What is that traditional Chinese medicine?
Speaker 2: Because Chinese thing, I understand you're saying, Perhaps I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not knowledgeable in that to be honest.
Speaker 7: Well, I can say that my daughter just came from
Speaker 7: China and from Beijing and that's very much active there, yes,
Speaker 7: very active.
Speaker 4: It is founded on music and vibration and sound. That
Speaker 4: is actually the first form of healing in the TCM
Speaker 4: philosophy and bone tapping I've mentioned this before is like
Speaker 4: primal taichi and it's all about getting a vibration going
Speaker 4: in our body that is not an extreme exertion, but
Speaker 4: it's just enough to tonify the uh every I forget
Speaker 4: the term right now, every organ system is encapsulated in
Speaker 4: its own sheath, right, and a.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: When when this happens, you get a hernia, right. A
Speaker 4: herniation is one of these having a problem and opening up.
Speaker 4: And so vibration toonifies all these systems that are each
Speaker 4: on their own at the same vibration, but it tonifies
Speaker 4: them being held together more properly. So that's it might
Speaker 4: be a little weird for people, but the whole system
Speaker 4: of t CM really starts off not with herbal not
Speaker 4: necessarily with movement, but even sound.
Speaker 5: So, oh, I got you, Ethan tell them what fun
Speaker 5: Shwe means wind and water. So the whole idea in
Speaker 5: func shue when they're talking about these energy points came
Speaker 5: from the burial practices of the ancient Chinese, and the
Speaker 5: idea was you wanted to have the perfect burial placement
Speaker 5: having to do with the cardinal directions and the local geography.
Speaker 5: So the fung shwe of those burial places was then
Speaker 5: carried over into how to construct a home, how to
Speaker 5: create a space for you know, the optimal amount of
Speaker 5: energy in the living quarters.
Speaker 7: And so.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of this fung shue comes from
Speaker 5: might be places like this because as you see, you know,
Speaker 5: it's it's about the roughness or smoothness of the energy.
Speaker 5: And so depending on the surfaces you use in your house,
Speaker 5: it speeds up or slows down the energy as it
Speaker 5: travels over it. So having those nubs there starts to
Speaker 5: make a little bit more sense. The resonant frequency kind
Speaker 5: of makes more sense. When you combine the ideas of
Speaker 5: functu with this, with this area, you can kind of
Speaker 5: start to map out exactly the type of energy that
Speaker 5: they were going for.
Speaker 11: It.
Speaker 6: I just want to say that I I just want
Speaker 6: to say that I like that comment about the stones
Speaker 6: being rubbed smooth by human hands and the oils, and
Speaker 6: I mean, maybe not this site, but there are other
Speaker 6: sites certainly where you can tell that people have been
Speaker 6: visiting them for centuries and millennia and touching them, and
Speaker 6: they rub the stones smooth, and I think that's a
Speaker 6: great indicator that you're at a sacred place.
Speaker 7: If if, if I may, since I have my AI
Speaker 7: trained to look into this with several papers and access
Speaker 7: it says that flint is a form of microcrystalline quartz
Speaker 7: and it shares some of the same physical properties as quarts,
Speaker 7: such as high elastic modality so above one hundred GPAs
Speaker 7: its rigidity allows it to sustain oscillations with minimal energy loss,
Speaker 7: so it has a quality of ninety nine points seven
Speaker 7: percent of wet weight of crystal material. It has flint's
Speaker 7: microcrystalin structure. While finer than macrocrystaline quartz, should still exhibit
Speaker 7: lower tenuation, making it capable of sustaining sound waves, potentially
Speaker 7: for archaeacoustic properties. In terms of physioelectric effect, I have
Speaker 7: flint as a quartz varianty likely exhibits piezo electricity, though
Speaker 7: its fine grain structure may modulate the effect compared to
Speaker 7: a single crystal quartz. This could allow flints to amplify
Speaker 7: vibrational energy in resonant chambers or when struck during rituals conductivity.
Speaker 7: Flint is generally a poor electrical conductor due to its
Speaker 7: high dialectric constant and isolation nature. That's the first thing
Speaker 7: that you got on your answer. The problem is what's
Speaker 7: come after and after says However, Quartz based Technologies notes
Speaker 7: that quartz dialectical properties support electromagnetical signal propagation in mineral
Speaker 7: matrixes as seen instillary currents like Otto Gawa at two
Speaker 7: thousand and one and page four, and flint microcrystaline structure
Speaker 7: may facilitate sub will subtle electromagnetic conductivity, especially under stress.
Speaker 7: There is the piezoelectric effect and when polished flint surface
Speaker 7: could reduce resistance to surface currents, potentially enhancing its interaction
Speaker 7: with the lric or geomagnetic fields. So when polished they
Speaker 7: achieve the higher effectiveness. And for finally in saying that
Speaker 7: due to flint high stiffness of around one hundred GPAs
Speaker 7: it allows it to transmit this is very important seismic
Speaker 7: or vibrational signals efficiently with wave velocities of five from
Speaker 7: seven kilometers per second in quadrits locks like the flint rocks,
Speaker 7: which means that it is barely the same as squatz
Speaker 7: achieves in crystalline matrixs. So it's the same thing basically
Speaker 7: you can use for the same purposes. Hi, Lisa, H,
Speaker 7: how's it going?
Speaker 5: I had the definition for functue pulled up. See if
Speaker 5: you can match up any of this stuff to that area,
Speaker 5: it says. Sometimes called Chinese geomancy, it's a traditional form
Speaker 5: of geomancy that originated in ancient China and claims to
Speaker 5: use the energy forces to harmonize individuals with their surrounding environment.
Speaker 5: The term funkshwe means literally wind water or fluid. From
Speaker 5: ancient times, landscapes and bodies of water were thought to
Speaker 5: direct the flow of universal key cosmic current or energy
Speaker 5: through places and structures. More broadly, funk shue includes astronomical, astrological, architectural, cosmological, geographical,
Speaker 5: and topographical dimensions.
Speaker 7: Exactly because it can be included in what is studied
Speaker 7: by archae acoustics and archaeo astronomy. Because they use they
Speaker 7: don't create justice water lines as you fronts use in
Speaker 7: South America. This rock carves just so the water can flow.
Speaker 7: They are using it because we know today that flowing water,
Speaker 7: first of all, ionizes the air, so it makes it
Speaker 7: more pure, and that in its own is syrapeutical. Second,
Speaker 7: we know that this as you were reading this underground
Speaker 7: waterway is going through these monuments and we find them everywhere.
Speaker 7: They enhance the vibrations of the human resonance, and then
Speaker 7: by the place itself vibration, it creates another layer of
Speaker 7: resonance within the structures. Then is added by the third dimension.
Speaker 7: There is the tridental frequencies. There is the human interaction
Speaker 7: that can be. A drum can be I can't remember
Speaker 7: how it's called. It's a thing that's rotated on a string.
Speaker 7: I can't remember the name right now, a bull roarer. Sorry.
Speaker 7: So these old instruments tend to be much more effective
Speaker 7: than you go in there and start to pay a
Speaker 7: digital organ or something like that. So they were made
Speaker 7: for this kind of raw instruments and human voice.
Speaker 5: Mark if you get a drum circle going over there
Speaker 5: and get that on video, that would be amazing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you should record is what is the response
Speaker 7: of the stone? So is there an intense electromagnetic field
Speaker 7: being created? Is there information being stored? Because I didn't
Speaker 7: read that part, but flint as crystal has a highly
Speaker 7: degree of absorption of energy and information, so you can
Speaker 7: actually store information, like when in this megalitic euroup, you're
Speaker 7: doing these ceremonies inside these structures, and the structure is
Speaker 7: absorbing that information. That's why they could speak to the ancestors,
Speaker 7: because when they recreate the ceremony, they could hear what
Speaker 7: was stored in the stone. You probably had to read
Speaker 7: better how I explained it in the Resonance Earth. And
Speaker 7: I can send the PDF to any of you if
Speaker 7: you want. But these things have much more functionalities than
Speaker 7: what we're said. Just to bury the death that that
Speaker 7: just came after it the technology was lost, and they
Speaker 7: look at it and said, yes, that's a place for
Speaker 7: the ancestors, let's put the bones there. But that's not
Speaker 7: how the story started. They were purely functional structures. And
Speaker 7: I guess you mentioned helmholds frequency. I guess yes, it's
Speaker 7: created if even the air, for instance, as Headless was
Speaker 7: saying in very well for it, if you go to
Speaker 7: h there is a place there is orkney, I think,
Speaker 7: where if the wind comes from the right direction, and
Speaker 7: because the way it is structured in scales of four
Speaker 7: thirds harmony in terms of music and in terms of
Speaker 7: sacred geometry, it creates this Humboldt effect that then can,
Speaker 7: by the way, in itself, create what is called a
Speaker 7: standing wave. And it's when the standing wave is created
Speaker 7: that the miracle starts to happen. Whatever is that you're
Speaker 7: trying to achieve, depending on the frequency that you introduced
Speaker 7: to the place or the functionalities that the place is
Speaker 7: built to have. And I can say that, for instance,
Speaker 7: this Viking king was going to a meeting and because
Speaker 7: of this huge storm, he decided, let's go inside that
Speaker 7: that burrow, Let's go inside that megalytic site and save
Speaker 7: ourselves from the rain and the wind. And so they
Speaker 7: all got concentrated on the same chambers, but two of
Speaker 7: them decided to stay on the first chamber to the left.
Speaker 7: If I'm not mistaken, it so happened that because of
Speaker 7: the effects of that specific chamber and the concentration of
Speaker 7: the sound. Because if you have four earths and you
Speaker 7: have normal sound or uncompressed sound, the four herds will
Speaker 7: feel you like bliss like sensation of touching the divine,
Speaker 7: similar to what you get in a church or a
Speaker 7: cathedral that was built for that. If you compressed the
Speaker 7: four herds, and that may happen with the standing waves.
Speaker 7: As the wind constantly was blowing inside the place, it
Speaker 7: can turn.
Speaker 5: Off the temperature and the moisture could change the Helmholtz
Speaker 5: frequency too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so those two guys that went there were insane,
Speaker 7: because what happens if you compressed four waves four hurts.
Speaker 7: We know is from laps do is that you have
Speaker 7: a loss of limp andtrol madness, visions terror, You stop
Speaker 7: understanding what's going on and start attacking your fellow mates.
Speaker 7: And these two went We know this happens because they
Speaker 7: got late to the ceremony because of those two were insane.
Speaker 7: So they became insane on that night and never recovered,
Speaker 7: and so that delayed them to get to the meeting.
Speaker 7: And that's why this was written. Why you know that
Speaker 7: this happened. But it's it's just to say I might
Speaker 7: adgress a little bit, but I was just expanding on
Speaker 7: what Headless said.
Speaker 5: Well, the helm Olt frequency happens when you blow over
Speaker 5: the top of a bottle. The frequency that it resonates
Speaker 5: at is a given formula. So you can use that
Speaker 5: Helmolt frequency anywhere based off of the dimensions of the
Speaker 5: object that you've got in your sights. And so it'll
Speaker 5: give you the resident frequency and you're gonna have to
Speaker 5: play around with the resonator, but you can achieve that
Speaker 5: pretty much anywhere you go, just by measuring the place. So, yeah,
Speaker 5: you get a bunch of drummers on each one of
Speaker 5: those tablets right there in the middle. You might get
Speaker 5: something happening that'd be amazing.
Speaker 3: For sure. You was wondering about those things that they were, like, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe there's seats and stuff, you know, I would wonder
Speaker 3: now if this stuff has anything to do with creating
Speaker 3: a specific sound, if that's there just to change the
Speaker 3: sound or to help create a different.
Speaker 7: Free They were left in specific places, right, We're right
Speaker 7: about that, and they are designed in a specific way.
Speaker 4: It makes me think too in terms of like medical
Speaker 4: applications with the TCM, A lot of those benches might
Speaker 4: be ways for not only a person to sit, but
Speaker 4: to put themselves in a posture that we might find
Speaker 4: kind of weird in the West. But they would be
Speaker 4: kind of having one leg upright, one leg down, or
Speaker 4: with the arms different different positionings. That might be related
Speaker 4: to some medical cheekgung theory they might have had.
Speaker 6: It might be in a fifty year span.
Speaker 4: They might have used it for this over the great
Speaker 4: length of Chinese history, So now we're left wondering what
Speaker 4: it's for. Just a thought, and it's certainly not a certainty.
Speaker 7: No, But you're right, because you see this, it looks
Speaker 7: like a if you imagine a megalitic hospital of benches,
Speaker 7: That's why it looks for different positions, right, because there
Speaker 7: are several of them in different shapes, under the same structure.
Speaker 7: So I think you might might be on something there. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I just imagine someone playing some traditional instrument in here,
Speaker 7: probably one at each side, one in the middle, and
Speaker 7: creating that effect.
Speaker 4: Sounds like a great therapeutic treatment. Yes, which brings in
Speaker 4: the rain. I can imagine in the rain that those
Speaker 4: dry spaces would just be really magical kind of just
Speaker 4: with rain.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well it brings up those caves. So there's
Speaker 5: a series of carved out caves that look like rough
Speaker 5: un sort of versions of maybe not similar to this,
Speaker 5: but a little bit different. It's got all these carvings
Speaker 5: pulled out of the wall, and it looks like it
Speaker 5: was done with the machine. Do you know which cave
Speaker 5: I'm talking about? I know it's in China. I'm not
Speaker 5: sure where in China. Yeah, I think it's long U Caves.
Speaker 5: Maybe we have footage of that.
Speaker 2: Actually I also have a two hour walk through gimbal
Speaker 2: video of that that we're going to see today actually, so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, long Longer Caves.
Speaker 2: Michael Collins was the first one to really put it
Speaker 2: on the map and then show everyone right Wandering Wolf
Speaker 2: and yeah, but it's like it's long as was made
Speaker 2: of sandstone, which is a little as much softer right
Speaker 2: than this. But I mean, I mean when I when
Speaker 2: I came here, I mean Wikipedia says the ancient record
Speaker 2: is made of limestone. I thought it was going to
Speaker 2: be limestone. I thought it was going to be like
Speaker 2: just like sedimentary, not nothing like this. And then when
Speaker 2: I when I saw it was flint, it was like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is this is amazing. It opens a whole lot
Speaker 2: of opportunities in terms of research and theories.
Speaker 7: And yeah, you find limestone used for acoustic properties in
Speaker 7: es caves, as the Headless was saying, and you find
Speaker 7: them in Malta like in alsaf lei Ani, the ancient
Speaker 7: Toxian temples and a few more places. But it's because
Speaker 7: the limestone is highly reflective and so they only have
Speaker 7: to carve in order to create the frequency that they want.
Speaker 7: It's different from this case here where it's if it
Speaker 7: is has some work, it's also energetic, and not only
Speaker 7: of sound. There is we are talking about conductivity here.
Speaker 7: And if you go and speak about al saph Leanni
Speaker 7: for instance, or the Tarxian temples where tim you're talking
Speaker 7: about feeling the stone vibrating. So the in the Tarxian
Speaker 7: temples that are six hundred and sixty six feet away
Speaker 7: from the halsaf Lyen, so all the areas full of faults,
Speaker 7: all the areas full of underground waterways, you have the
Speaker 7: river there, and there has no ceiling on the Taxian temples.
Speaker 7: So the sound, just the naturally generated sound, just disappears
Speaker 7: because there is no ceiling to keep the sound in
Speaker 7: the structure. But you have these orthostats, these huge stones
Speaker 7: making a corridor that leaves you to the final smith
Speaker 7: circle room. And they have these dimples, right, imagine some
Speaker 7: dimples carved in this huge slabs of stone. And just
Speaker 7: for fun, the archaeologists decided, let's put my hand close
Speaker 7: to the dimple. Let's see what is the size of
Speaker 7: the temple. And when he's putting his fist toward the
Speaker 7: dimple in the stone. He felt the same thing that
Speaker 7: we feel if we put our hand in the sub
Speaker 7: boo for at our stereo.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: So it's still pumping the sound, it's still active, just
Speaker 7: it doesn't have the ceiling to produce the effects that
Speaker 7: it was done to do. So you were crossing this corridor,
Speaker 7: and by the end of the corridor, your brain is
Speaker 7: already SYNCD to the frequency that is being given you
Speaker 7: for both sides from these stones, and they are sinking
Speaker 7: her body. So when you reach to the final room,
Speaker 7: you're already in sync with the site. And we know
Speaker 7: this is possible because several archaeocoustic studies show that this
Speaker 7: actually happens. So you see people actually fusing with the
Speaker 7: stone in terms of frequency. So the sensor ceased to
Speaker 7: capture the people because they tune into the site and
Speaker 7: they disappear from the image. They transformed themselves into the
Speaker 7: stone mark.
Speaker 6: You might know more about this than I do, but
Speaker 6: you know, other places in China they found remnants of
Speaker 6: items that seem to be something to do with ancient technology,
Speaker 6: like the like the b discs, the little disks, and
Speaker 6: then there's another artifact that I saw that had a
Speaker 6: very intricately carved face on it, and if you look
Speaker 6: closer at the face, it's it appears to be a
Speaker 6: man riding a beast.
Speaker 7: I'm not aware of the specifics.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that piece. I know
Speaker 2: there are some I think some jade igness rock bowls.
Speaker 7: Some jade vases in in China, I know.
Speaker 2: Uh ah, what's your name? Uh a zoo pardon me, uh,
Speaker 2: I think her name is zoo on on uh on X.
Speaker 7: You're talking about you're talking about v.
Speaker 2: V V Yeah, sorry, sorry did Yeah, I did a
Speaker 2: podcast with her about saying.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you've got the duel, Yeah, Viduo exactly.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you know more about the jade artifacts
Speaker 2: than I do. Rebirth.
Speaker 6: To be honest, there there b discs or by discs
Speaker 6: b I.
Speaker 7: I know them as drop of discs. Yeah, they're often
Speaker 7: known as drop a disc okay, but the aren't those.
Speaker 6: They appear to be constructed in mysterious ways, like it
Speaker 6: it's almost too intricate to be done by chisels and stuff.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 7: The problem with the drop of discs and I did
Speaker 7: a paper recently about them. The problem with the drop
Speaker 7: of discs is that although they were photographed as they
Speaker 7: were being presented in the museum, there's nothing else, so
Speaker 7: they just disappeared. They were considered forgeries, not worthy of
Speaker 7: being an exposition. That's the official explanation. But what is
Speaker 7: interesting is if you follow the history and go and
Speaker 7: look for the drop of people, that's why they call
Speaker 7: the drop of discs, and you go look for them,
Speaker 7: there are still those are gonna call it tribes living
Speaker 7: on the mountains under that name where those stones are
Speaker 7: were found those discs. The problem is they don't resemble
Speaker 7: anything like what the tale tells us about the drop
Speaker 7: of people. Then the similarities are not there. The physiology
Speaker 7: is different. So there is very little to be taken
Speaker 7: into to validate the drop of discs because we don't
Speaker 7: have We know that the inscriptions on the disc were minimal.
Speaker 7: There are some people that say that if they were
Speaker 7: played in some kind of instrument like a record player,
Speaker 7: an old vinyl record player, that they would have a
Speaker 7: message in there, but we never It's something we don't
Speaker 7: never know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's also these we might be talking about two
Speaker 6: different types of Chinese discs. There's another one from the
Speaker 6: Lang Zoo culture. May be mispronouncing that they were Neolithic period,
Speaker 6: and it goes they were, you know, around like three
Speaker 6: three thousand BC, and they had these discs called the
Speaker 6: Bay discs. And I don't think they're contested as frauds, but.
Speaker 7: I might be mistaken what I was saying. Let me
Speaker 7: see by discs look at.
Speaker 6: We might just be talking about two different types.
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably, I think.
Speaker 8: You know what if you guys, Yeah, I think y'all
Speaker 8: are because the way y'all explain them differently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think y'all are.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna switch over to uh I see uh, I
Speaker 3: see it. Mark's got some underground caves going on here,
Speaker 3: so I might switch over to the excellent just to
Speaker 3: switch things over here.
Speaker 5: I think the tridactyl guy was talking about the by disks.
Speaker 5: He was talking about dragon eggs, and so he mentioned
Speaker 5: how the dragon eggs could have something to do with
Speaker 5: the Tridactal mummies that they had a brew.
Speaker 3: So what's up with this place? Him off?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is I guess the beginning of long new caves.
Speaker 2: So this is the first cave. There's five that have
Speaker 2: been drained. I guess they were discovered in the early
Speaker 2: nineties by some farmers in the region, and I guess
Speaker 2: they were catching the pretty large fish in these caves.
Speaker 2: They and they thought like, how how deep at this cave?
Speaker 2: And in the early nineties they they decided to, I guess,
Speaker 2: explore some of these caves and they've they've drained five.
Speaker 2: They apparently there's over twenty, but I was only able
Speaker 2: to find five drained and undrained, so I don't know
Speaker 2: if there's more. Look that I wasn't able to find
Speaker 2: walking around, so this is just I guess they that
Speaker 2: center pillar is actually concrete, but the wall is original,
Speaker 2: so that's a concrete remake that the humans trying to, like,
Speaker 2: I guess, build pillars for safety, and they tried to
Speaker 2: mimic the ancient tool works. And I wanted to emphasize
Speaker 2: this because if you go there, it took me a
Speaker 2: while to identify the difference between fake concrete any ancient carving.
Speaker 2: So I just wanted to really emphasize. I think at
Speaker 2: this point I might not have known the difference, to
Speaker 2: be absolutely honest. Walking in it's a two hour video,
Speaker 2: I think maybe fifteen minutes in I start to identify
Speaker 2: the difference. Right, So this is like the ancient tool marks,
Speaker 2: which looks really different from Yangshang Cory. Right, this is sandstone,
Speaker 2: very much softer type of stone, and you could see
Speaker 2: the tool marks are like really parallel, right, and I mean.
Speaker 7: Method yeah, yeah, I mean if there was some.
Speaker 4: Mections at the other side that had these kind of formations.
Speaker 3: That's right. I thought there was parts where it did
Speaker 3: look like it was chiseled on that other place. I
Speaker 3: think it was at the beginning though.
Speaker 7: This. I mean, I don't if it was hand chiseled
Speaker 7: it was.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying a lot is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I don't, I don't, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, if I'm saying, if it was
Speaker 2: hand chizzled, it would be like a lot of effort
Speaker 2: to make it like all parallel and everything. Like in
Speaker 2: this case, I can see a type of rotary machine,
Speaker 2: like even like a bicycle, right, the first photos of
Speaker 2: the AI that I showed, it's maybe it was some
Speaker 2: sort of rotating foot power. I'm not saying like advanced technology.
Speaker 2: It could just be something like pretty pretty basic, right,
Speaker 2: because I mean I made a video of the sandstone,
Speaker 2: Like I have some of like the sandstone here, and
Speaker 2: I was able to cut through it with a knife
Speaker 2: in like seconds, right, And if you're able to cut
Speaker 2: through this in seconds, I can totally see how someone
Speaker 2: maybe had like some sort of footpower thing. This is concrete.
Speaker 2: That's that's a concrete pillar. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 2: can totally see I mean, just the amount of effort
Speaker 2: that it would take to make all the tool marks parallel.
Speaker 2: It just seems really inefficient. I don't think they were
Speaker 2: doing it for art. I think it was more like
Speaker 2: a consequence of the of the creation technique, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 7: You can fast, you can skip quite a bit. The
Speaker 7: first cave is kind of small.
Speaker 2: The other caves are a little larger. If you want to.
Speaker 3: There's a spout it was a little bigger. Sorry. There
Speaker 3: was a spot where I was wondering it looked like
Speaker 3: maybe the holes are being done on purpose. I couldn't tell,
Speaker 3: like I thought, maybe they actually might have been like
Speaker 3: points within.
Speaker 11: The thinks if I can interject, that column looks like
Speaker 11: a bamboo, the way the bamboo grows their stocks. They
Speaker 11: have that segmented and I wonder if the striations themselves
Speaker 11: are just adding to the stability of the concrete. I'm
Speaker 11: not familiar with bamboo tissue like microscopically or molecularly, but
Speaker 11: I'm almost wondering if maybe that is a mimicry of
Speaker 11: bamboo itself.
Speaker 2: Maybe perhaps I mean, like the tour the natural to
Speaker 2: marks also on.
Speaker 11: The striations, if it maybe contributes to the strength of
Speaker 11: the like the concrete itself. But if it's trying to
Speaker 11: mimic how bamboo structurally exists naturally and it's and you know,
Speaker 11: it's a live.
Speaker 2: Form, perhaps I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest, you know what it reminds me of.
Speaker 3: I know that I know it's definitely not but like
Speaker 3: if anybody's ever like used, I guess like machines were
Speaker 3: like excavating or I feel like scraping the ground when
Speaker 3: you drop the bucket and you drag the teeth on
Speaker 3: the ground, That's exactly what it looks like. But I'm
Speaker 3: sure that's not what was going.
Speaker 6: On, you know.
Speaker 11: And the thing is that when you create, when you
Speaker 11: create undulations like that, you're you're increasing surface area. So
Speaker 11: that's not kind of like why the gut has undulations
Speaker 11: like your small intests in your largest it has like
Speaker 11: that because it increases surface area. So I wonder if
Speaker 11: they were trying to maximize surface area for a particular purpose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. First sound or residence frequency, like I
Speaker 2: guess had less time was talking about in Ricardo.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we are in the studio. You know, the the
Speaker 11: walls that they use. They don't just use absorbent material
Speaker 11: that's flat. They use it kind of like with with
Speaker 11: a pattern or like a structure. Yeah, surface area.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I'm running that down. Never thought about that
Speaker 2: because I mean, it's the sound is really nice in there.
Speaker 2: It sounds really really serene. It's really really you feel
Speaker 2: really good being inside.
Speaker 7: And just just the suggestion when you go to these places,
Speaker 7: install a guitar tuner in your in your phone so
Speaker 7: you can see if you can detect what is the
Speaker 7: frequency of the site, what is the note that is producing?
Speaker 2: Okay, And.
Speaker 3: I got to talk to him.
Speaker 7: As a suggestion from the abbyss that I never forgot
Speaker 7: on that show.
Speaker 3: Yes, flint was on the outside. Is it the same
Speaker 3: stuff inside you were saying?
Speaker 2: Or no?
Speaker 3: Probably you probably said, and I forgot.
Speaker 7: Of these caves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what's inside that at all? Or
Speaker 3: is it the same material?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 7: Well, this this foot is right here, right here, This
Speaker 7: is also concrete.
Speaker 2: This is a concrete pillar that they created recently. This
Speaker 2: is not ancient.
Speaker 7: This this pillar right here.
Speaker 2: And this location is actually maybe three hundred four hundred
Speaker 2: miles south from yang Shankry. So this whole area is sandstone.
Speaker 2: It's it's not a flint area specifically here. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: guess going back to that first map that we showed
Speaker 2: it was it was like, yeah, five hundred miles south.
Speaker 7: So and is there any text, any brushure explaining why
Speaker 7: this it was done?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the of the mimicking the or why why the
Speaker 2: caves were made? I did not get. I mean, there
Speaker 2: there probably is. I'm sure they have an explanation. I'll
Speaker 2: be honest. I did not read into their specific explanation,
Speaker 2: like explaining why or how it was done. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know that information. I'm sure it exists, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know there what. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they official narratives.
Speaker 5: I heard giants. There was giants that carved these for
Speaker 5: some reason.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 2: Fucking giants maybe, I mean, perhaps.
Speaker 3: What kind of gimbal are you using if you don't
Speaker 3: mind me asking, I see.
Speaker 2: I'm using a d G I O five five. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's very good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I recommend. Yeah, I have one of their gimbals.
Speaker 3: There's off the hook.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. Guys can comp one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: US dollars just a few years ago.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yo, and that shit will like follow you
Speaker 3: and like you'll even do it like its own, like
Speaker 3: mess the shots too. In a sense. It's fucking weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I look up this place. See what this end?
Speaker 6: So it says this was found. These caves were discovered
Speaker 6: by accident in nineteen ninety two, when local farmers drained
Speaker 6: several ponds, revealing five large man made caverns and nineteen
Speaker 6: smaller caverns or smaller caves. Rather, the five caverns independent
Speaker 6: from each other, measure between eighteen to thirty four meters,
Speaker 6: reaching heights of up to twenty meters, with supporting pillars
Speaker 6: and distinctive shapes remarkably curved, with shaking imprints across the
Speaker 6: cavern walls and ceilings.
Speaker 7: So they're not enough to harbor a small population.
Speaker 6: I'm looking at a picture here that it looks like
Speaker 6: you could fit some people in there. You could fit
Speaker 6: some people in there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it was when I when I'm looking at this,
Speaker 7: it looks like it was done in the rush. So
Speaker 7: they they had a magic it worked, and they kept
Speaker 7: at it from beginning to end.
Speaker 5: Like they scratch marks are uniform, they're they're very intentional
Speaker 5: each and everyone.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So it doesn't look like they were doing it
Speaker 5: by hand, because that would have to be some sort
Speaker 5: of machine moving in the same direction at the same
Speaker 5: time as all the other scratch marks or else.
Speaker 7: Well, if you if you go, if you are I
Speaker 7: live in a close to an area because everything is closed.
Speaker 7: This is Portugal where they extract a lot of stone.
Speaker 7: And it's even the one that is done by hand.
Speaker 7: You see exactly what you see there, not straight down
Speaker 7: but slightly to the side.
Speaker 1: The.
Speaker 7: What you called that the iron that used to hammer it,
Speaker 7: the the chisel, sorry, thank you. So you see that
Speaker 7: they can make over and over again the same the
Speaker 7: same marks on the stone, even break the stone completely
Speaker 7: flat by hand. So it is possible in real time.
Speaker 7: What I see here striking is the length of the
Speaker 7: chisel and the fact that they go from a very
Speaker 7: large distance from top to bottom with the same mark.
Speaker 7: And that is strange because you can't do it because
Speaker 7: you have the ceiling and and you can do it
Speaker 7: from the top, unless then you go back. Yeah where again, Yeah,
Speaker 7: great question.
Speaker 3: Look at that ship right there.
Speaker 7: This is concrete, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's eat modern. Yeah, it's it took it took me.
Speaker 2: It took me like maybe fifteen twenty minutes in there.
Speaker 2: I think even at this point I might have thought
Speaker 2: this was the original, but then realized, oh no, it's concrete.
Speaker 7: I was just trying to relate this to Turkey, to Capadocia,
Speaker 7: to Dinky, to fifteen thousand underground cities. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 7: I don't know how big this is.
Speaker 6: Well, there are some of the pictures I'm saying of
Speaker 6: the room as a whole. It does give me. It
Speaker 6: does kind of resemble a temple or something that you
Speaker 6: might see in one of the old sites in Turkey.
Speaker 4: It almost has the lines kind of remind me, excuse me,
Speaker 4: of sun rays in that sense, and it makes me
Speaker 4: wonder what the angle is, if there end, if that
Speaker 4: through that angle they were trying to say something I
Speaker 4: don't know. Sometimes I've seen the different angles in different megalithic.
Speaker 5: Calculate the date that they that they wanted.
Speaker 2: To be use.
Speaker 4: It could be because so it says here that caverns
Speaker 4: are aligned along a south to southwest orientation, maximizing the
Speaker 4: use of sunlight to illuminate the interior.
Speaker 3: I also saw that there's twenty four there's twenty four
Speaker 3: caves which mirror the twenty four solar times of the
Speaker 3: traditional calendar. So it's like an underground cosmic almanac.
Speaker 2: Awesome, nice Mark.
Speaker 6: I have a good question.
Speaker 11: At the base of these walls and at the base
Speaker 11: of these pillars, was there a crack into the floor.
Speaker 11: And the reason I asked is that would they potentially
Speaker 11: account for potential water falling against the wall? And if
Speaker 11: it did, it wouldn't splash all over the floor, but
Speaker 11: it would create a channel for the water to filter
Speaker 11: down and then leave between the wall and the floor.
Speaker 11: Water could drain out that way. I don't know, it's
Speaker 11: just because I know I think like, for instance, when
Speaker 11: you do concrete and you create grooves, you're kind of
Speaker 11: like you're doing infra structural support. You're also doing for
Speaker 11: safety reasons, but you're also doing it to kind of
Speaker 11: guide where wear and tear whatever on concrete. But then
Speaker 11: if you do it on a wall, you're also trying
Speaker 11: to guide water down.
Speaker 6: Okay, so Lisa, it says here. Upon further study, it
Speaker 6: was found that each complete cavern has only one portal
Speaker 6: associated with a vertical shaft with a carved stairwell that
Speaker 6: allows rainfall and surface runoff to enter the caverns. To
Speaker 6: manage the water intake, a system of drainage troughs, some
Speaker 6: drainage channels, channels, and a water trap was carved into
Speaker 6: the cavern base to collect the water.
Speaker 11: Then go there you go, all right, Well, I'm not
Speaker 11: saying that's why it is, but it reminded me of
Speaker 11: all that.
Speaker 3: The ship did make me think of like tires before,
Speaker 3: and like that ship on the tires are like also
Speaker 3: a way of pushing water out as you're driving over it.
Speaker 3: I did think that was like that ship looks like
Speaker 3: ruis on tires, the way they would go against each other.
Speaker 6: So that's massive.
Speaker 7: So those columns wouldn't be there, right, No, columns those
Speaker 7: are real? Those are those are those are real?
Speaker 2: Those are ancient?
Speaker 3: What do they got a rave going on over there?
Speaker 7: Know, looks pretty cool.
Speaker 3: They got a rave.
Speaker 7: The sound was in this place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were being seen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I bet the cats are off the hook.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It goes to speak how lengthy Chinese history is because
Speaker 4: this was a pond, right, I mean this was built,
Speaker 4: used and then found later as under at the pond
Speaker 4: like that's exactly.
Speaker 5: It's a pond that creates enormous fish. That's also something
Speaker 5: to keep in mind, so that the qualities of the
Speaker 5: caves exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, uh, since there was a some some play pots
Speaker 6: and stuff that were found in here that dating to
Speaker 6: the Western Han dynasty from two oh six BC to
Speaker 6: eighty twenty three, which suggests the caves were constructed earlier
Speaker 6: and date from around two thousand years ago.
Speaker 7: No, that doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 5: Does that match up tom wise with the uh with
Speaker 5: the quarry?
Speaker 3: No, Ricardo, you should look up the cymatics tests on
Speaker 3: at this place. There has been and sorry to interrupt,
Speaker 3: and I don't understand what the fuck I'm reading. So
Speaker 3: maybe if you look at it, uh, you'll get an idea.
Speaker 7: Cimics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ran it through. I just asked, you know,
Speaker 3: chatchy beteen. It spent out there was cymatic tests on there,
Speaker 3: but I don't know what the fuck I'm reading.
Speaker 7: You would probably know cimatics is the effect of sound
Speaker 7: on basins of work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I'm just saying, if you want to look
Speaker 3: at it and read it, yeah, I will think you
Speaker 3: you can explain it. I would suck it up. Just
Speaker 3: want it answered that real quick. Go ahead. Sorry, I
Speaker 3: interworth it.
Speaker 6: Well, you know how it's dating.
Speaker 8: Is there any pictographic script in there, like any pictures,
Speaker 8: like anything that might tell a story or some kind
Speaker 8: of writing system.
Speaker 2: I did not see any. They added recent carvings on
Speaker 2: the walls, like recent dragon carvings, but those are recent,
Speaker 2: But I mean in terms of writing, I didn't see any.
Speaker 2: I don't know if there is any. I again, I'm
Speaker 2: clearly not an expert in the knowledge of the site,
Speaker 2: but I didn't see any, and there wasn't any information.
Speaker 4: There are various angular changes, and again I'm totally speculating
Speaker 4: of my own hypothesis. It very much might be communicating
Speaker 4: something with these different intersections of angles. To your point,
Speaker 4: who knows what that might have been. But lines, lines,
Speaker 4: and threads these definitely were used to communicate. Not that
Speaker 4: this one was, but other times places.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, what's the name of the caves again? Sorry?
Speaker 7: Long you o y o you yeah?
Speaker 5: Long Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: A long you in long View, China. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 7: Interesting.
Speaker 5: Got wiring in there? Oh that is concrete?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't I don't know. Nick, could you
Speaker 2: maybe fast forward to maybe an hour and thirty five
Speaker 2: minutes in this video? That's okay, just because it'll it'll
Speaker 2: show the size of the room. I know. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of questions, like an hour thirty four minutes would
Speaker 2: be like perfect.
Speaker 3: I got one four those guy knows the exact minute.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like, yeah, you see that the thumbnail there.
Speaker 2: I am yeah, oh so yeah, some of these caves
Speaker 2: are pretty big. Yeah, and these are modern. This is
Speaker 2: modern car rings. I think I'm pretty sure. I think
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure. I didn't. Yeah, so you can see
Speaker 2: it's pretty big, pretty big place. Yeah, it's just it
Speaker 2: was really nice. This is huge, really nice place to be.
Speaker 2: Really a lot of echo. It echoes a lot. There's
Speaker 2: like a cricket in there, and you can hear it
Speaker 2: just like you hear it echoing and reallys I meen. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is the show is the size and this is
Speaker 2: kind of the biggest, one of the biggest caves there.
Speaker 2: I think the actual largest one hasn't been drained yet,
Speaker 2: which is pretty insane. I think it's been It's been explored,
Speaker 2: but not drained, which is wild, right, just like at
Speaker 2: the frontier of Discovery. And I think there's there's probably
Speaker 2: I'm guessing there might be more of these caves out there, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was found in the nineties and
Speaker 2: the whole maybe, I don't know. Again, I'm not of jealous,
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of sandstone along the river there,
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't doubt that there are other caves to
Speaker 2: be Is.
Speaker 7: That a flower on on on that pillar on that wall?
Speaker 7: I think it's a dragon.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I think it supposed to be a dragon,
Speaker 2: like wrapping around the pillar and going down into the earth.
Speaker 7: Oh, I see the dragon head now, Okay, I was
Speaker 7: not seeing it.
Speaker 11: Okay, Yeah, so I think it's But you said this
Speaker 11: was man made completely.
Speaker 2: I I don't. I don't know. I would call it
Speaker 2: human made. I would conclude that just because the.
Speaker 11: Sorry, how far down from the let's say sea level.
Speaker 7: Does it exist from the top?
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I think it was eighty feet down. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's like eighty feet bag.
Speaker 11: Or The reason I say this because we have in
Speaker 11: Texas with caverns, natural bridge caverns, and they go about
Speaker 11: that deep down and if you look at them, they
Speaker 11: have these pillars that come, you know, up from the
Speaker 11: bottom and go up to the surface and they form
Speaker 11: you know, by dripping limestone water or whatever. But it
Speaker 11: almost is like you wonder if they found this underground
Speaker 11: cavern back in the day and they carved it to
Speaker 11: manipulate it, you know, to their own as you almost wondered,
Speaker 11: maybe it was already there and they just kind of
Speaker 11: human manipulate it and the carvings themselves is just them
Speaker 11: trying to mold the limestone itself in the natural underground cavern.
Speaker 11: I don't know, just the thought because it just it
Speaker 11: seems it seems very if you go in, if you
Speaker 11: see any pictures of the Sex Ridge caverns, it's somewhat
Speaker 11: looks like this a little bit.
Speaker 7: Just you know, this is you have.
Speaker 5: A point that Lisa, you'd think being underwater for that
Speaker 5: long or maybe having some kind of water interaction where
Speaker 5: you get you know, bubbles and stuff inside there. You
Speaker 5: have stalide types for man, because that's what the precentation
Speaker 5: would do. But I don't see any stalide types.
Speaker 11: Yeah, and if you and if it was covered in water,
Speaker 11: you would have had significant wear on this. But with
Speaker 11: underground caverns, they are highly exposed to water all the
Speaker 11: time and they do not wear. If anything, it almost
Speaker 11: reinforces their structure.
Speaker 2: So it's when I was walking around outside of these
Speaker 2: caves or you can see the undreamed ones, there are
Speaker 2: what looks like natural entrances into the ground, and sometimes
Speaker 2: I'd be looking, I'm like, is that human? Mad? Is
Speaker 2: that natural? Okay, this one looks natural. I don't think
Speaker 2: it's a human one. Because I was I was trying
Speaker 2: to find all nineteen caves that I guess Tim had
Speaker 2: read that exists, and I can only find I can
Speaker 2: only find nine plus these five. So I mean I
Speaker 2: just kind of scoured the area pretty significantly.
Speaker 7: But yeah, I would say I would say that they
Speaker 7: didn't carve the whole cave, that they found the cave
Speaker 7: and just align the walls or create the symmetries. And
Speaker 7: I wouldn't say that they carved all of this.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, maybe, but the pillars are also kind of interesting,
Speaker 2: right because the pillars are all natural.
Speaker 7: So yeah, but the pillars can happen naturally. You can
Speaker 7: find those pillars in caves.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that we're saying, no not outstands. Don't It would
Speaker 5: be a different form because sand stone doesn't really have
Speaker 5: the same qualities as limestone, which is where you normally
Speaker 5: find the caves. Yeah, I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: One thing is for sure, that they were the different
Speaker 4: cultures of China really would be more accurate. That they
Speaker 4: were always into building into caves and still today right
Speaker 4: now there's thirty to forty million people that live in
Speaker 4: caves in China today despite the modernity.
Speaker 5: So I take a cave. Yeah.
Speaker 7: In Australia. In Australia, do you have these people that
Speaker 7: live underground? They dig underground and they live underground because
Speaker 7: the temperature is always constant. They don't suffer with the heat.
Speaker 7: It's it's the most efficient way for them to live
Speaker 7: instead of building on top of the land suffer the
Speaker 7: intense heat and the sun. So they do dug and
Speaker 7: then leave underground.
Speaker 6: Something's going on with these ridges, I mean there's some
Speaker 6: sort of an intention behind this that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: I think it could be a combination of mechanical and
Speaker 4: communicating something to variously right, because it does seem like
Speaker 4: a process, result of a process, but variously there's also
Speaker 4: different intersections with different angles that that obviously is.
Speaker 6: Maybe not intentional, but resulting in something. It seems like
Speaker 6: it seems like it must be intentional to make the differences.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but there is some kind of natural feel to it,
Speaker 7: because if even THO you look to the pillar not
Speaker 7: this one, the one that he was filming before they
Speaker 7: went to the left, it's not straight. They didn't bother
Speaker 7: to carve it absolutely straight, so it's curved on the top,
Speaker 7: And so there is some intent to this to to
Speaker 7: don't make it completely artificial. I would say, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I've reade a sign that the shape
Speaker 2: of the pillars were designed to help maximize structural strength
Speaker 2: for support.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that curve is not it's not maximizing that
Speaker 7: at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, true, that is true.
Speaker 3: Oh did you want me to I know you have
Speaker 3: some other stuff I could show real quick before we
Speaker 3: wrap it up, Drummy show the Pyramids. I saw that
Speaker 3: you do have some of the pyramids.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, for sure, Yeah, yeah, I think.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize how much on that list.
Speaker 2: Yeah I sent, I sent a whole bunch. But this
Speaker 2: is great, man, this is it's wonderful.
Speaker 7: And very few people. I'm astonished, so few people inside.
Speaker 10: I try, I try to get a Google Earth over you, like,
Speaker 10: try to get straight views and some new pictures and stuff.
Speaker 10: They wouldn't even now, they don't even have any for
Speaker 10: that areas. Matter of fact, when you type in you
Speaker 10: know what you said the caves location, it takes you
Speaker 10: on top of like what looks like a little housing area.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, there's there's a Buddhist temple kind of
Speaker 2: on the caves, and there's there's like a green area
Speaker 2: right by the river and by the town along you
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is near him. This is
Speaker 2: maybe fifty kilometers maybe thirty five miles from the Terracotta soldiers.
Speaker 2: Right and north of Chian. There are I think forty
Speaker 2: to fifty pyramid like structures along the north part of
Speaker 2: the river. And so this is a burial tomb approximately
Speaker 2: two thousand years old. Han chiang Ling is the name
Speaker 2: of the Han dynasty. Sorry not Tang. The Han dynasty,
Speaker 2: So it's about two thousand years old. The emperor, I wrote,
Speaker 2: I put all the information in the in the youth
Speaker 2: in the youthtube description, I can't remember emperor and his wife.
Speaker 2: These are the burial tombs, and you can see the
Speaker 2: forest around. So the terracotta soldiers, they were excavated beside
Speaker 2: the pyramid, right, they weren't excavating in the pyramid. The
Speaker 2: actual pyramid of Chi Shi ching Huang was not excavated.
Speaker 2: It was beside it. So I'm thinking under these trees
Speaker 2: there might be more terracotta soldiers, there might be more
Speaker 2: terracotta horses, and it could be it could be anything, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying we should go dig it
Speaker 2: up right, I'm not saying we should. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't really have a stance on whether we should
Speaker 2: excavate or not. I haven't really made up my mind.
Speaker 2: I'm not Again I'm not Chinese also, but who knows
Speaker 2: what's under there? It could be anything. It could be.
Speaker 2: It could be possibly as greed.
Speaker 4: And my first question this photo excise me the video
Speaker 4: was wait, why is there forestry, you know, production right
Speaker 4: around this?
Speaker 6: Like it seems awful, suspicious, if you will.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, I think you're I think you're on. Yeah,
Speaker 7: And I'm surprised because the policy right now in China
Speaker 7: is to cover all of these pyramids with trees, they say,
Speaker 7: is to preserve them. So and I see that all
Speaker 7: of the pyramids seems to be already ready to be seated.
Speaker 7: So if you probably returned there in two years or something,
Speaker 7: you'll find it already covered with with with small trees,
Speaker 7: because they are doing it to all of them.
Speaker 11: If you go back just a few seconds in the video,
Speaker 11: the a little bit more right there, right there, If
Speaker 11: you look at the trees, they mimic the slanted lines
Speaker 11: of the inside of the walls.
Speaker 3: Oh, I see what you say. Yeah, like the rows
Speaker 3: of the trees actually makes like.
Speaker 11: These they were intentionally, they were intentionally grown and seeded
Speaker 11: that way. That's not natural.
Speaker 2: No, I think it's definitely planted. Yep, yeah, yeah, and definitely.
Speaker 2: And the differences too, shows that they are planted at
Speaker 2: different times.
Speaker 3: Do you think that even goes for like this stuff
Speaker 3: back here too or is that like kind of looking atural?
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's exactly what I was talking about, the slanting. Yeah,
Speaker 11: the ones that are immediately surrounding the pyramid are straight,
Speaker 11: but the but trees that are surrounding the strap are slanted,
Speaker 11: just like you see on the walls.
Speaker 7: Yeah, or the cave.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, we have. We had Christmas tree patches in
Speaker 6: Appalachia where people would grow Christmas trees to sell, and
Speaker 6: some of these patches of trees here look like that.
Speaker 6: How you would plant, you know, trees intentionally.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I think I think these are definitely planted.
Speaker 2: I don't know how long ago. There's photos of these
Speaker 2: specific pyramids that did have trees on them. I mean
Speaker 2: this is March, so I mean there are trees there
Speaker 2: that might be deciduous that just having trees leaves yet there.
Speaker 2: It was. I think it was an acacia, which is
Speaker 2: it has like a spiny it's a spiny legume, leg leguminosity.
Speaker 7: It's a highly symbolic trees.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes they are, Yes, yes, I'm.
Speaker 7: I think it's it was. It was a spiny legum
Speaker 7: which looked like a asia bush.
Speaker 2: And that's by like tropical plant biologies my expertise, so
Speaker 2: I was able to I think it's I think it's
Speaker 2: an acacia or in that family. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's psychedelic. I don't know, that would be crazy, I'd
Speaker 2: be interesting, really funny.
Speaker 7: Like cases. The empty acases are known. The cases was
Speaker 7: what forced the the scientific community to finally admit that
Speaker 7: plants have feelings are sought to because they were founding
Speaker 7: no explanation of why it were so much kudus dead, right,
Speaker 7: And so when they started investigating this, and this was threading,
Speaker 7: it was killing all the the population of kudus that
Speaker 7: feed on the acacias, right. And so what was happening
Speaker 7: is because they were a slightly overpopulation of these animals
Speaker 7: and they could actually kill the acacia by eating all
Speaker 7: of the leaves. The acacias started to release a pheromone
Speaker 7: when was down wind, not always, and it sent it
Speaker 7: to the other tree. The other tree would receive it,
Speaker 7: and so as soon as the kudoos get there, as
Speaker 7: soon as they start eating it, they die because they
Speaker 7: turned themselves into poisonous. They create this poisonous substances over
Speaker 7: receiving that information and was killing the kudoos and this
Speaker 7: was spreading all over the place, and that was how
Speaker 7: they were forced with a small articles, just a small
Speaker 7: article that I published regularly on X where they were
Speaker 7: forced to admit that plants, after all, have a much
Speaker 7: more complex life than we thought they do. So acacia
Speaker 7: is involved in many things, including into religious things.
Speaker 8: Hey, Ricardo, when you said that them reminded me of
Speaker 8: that movie That Happening. You remember that, well, Mark Webert,
Speaker 8: remember when all the plants was changing on people and
Speaker 8: killing them based on what was going on?
Speaker 7: Remember that movie?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, that that's what I gotta go back and
Speaker 8: watch that movie.
Speaker 11: Doesn't the acacia have the highest recorded level of d
Speaker 11: MT molecule?
Speaker 7: Uh, that would be our and Void's territory. But but
Speaker 7: I think you might be correct. Okay, that is again
Speaker 7: I'm not sure if it's acasia. If someone goes there
Speaker 7: and says, oh there's no acasis, we blame it on you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, but yeah, the case is also the colonize
Speaker 2: disturbed open areas, so it's the ecology of it says
Speaker 2: it's highly possible.
Speaker 5: I think they grow around mound sites too, So you
Speaker 5: get a lot of acacia around mound sites. Pyramid sites
Speaker 5: probably as well.
Speaker 7: Makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean I don't know if it is,
Speaker 2: if it's stone or just the mound. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: been to mounds in in in the United States, in
Speaker 2: the Miamisburg Mound in Ohio. And it doesn't look anything
Speaker 2: like this at all. It's just like a round, circular mound, right,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's definitely smaller, but it doesn't look like
Speaker 2: this is like trapezoidal shape. It's got I don't know if,
Speaker 2: as Ricardo said, if they're if their deadlines are like
Speaker 2: they're seating it or not. I don't know. Something something
Speaker 2: is going on here.
Speaker 7: It's what is the elevation on this mark?
Speaker 2: Uh, like the height of the pyramid or the elevation
Speaker 2: of sea level? I height, I I can't estimate, that's me.
Speaker 2: I'm maybe eighty feet maybe smaller. I'm sorry to.
Speaker 11: So the surface of the mound or pyramid, does that
Speaker 11: have any kind of grass vegetation on it?
Speaker 2: A little bit?
Speaker 12: Yeah, So it's interesting that nothing really has grown on it.
Speaker 12: Like it's like the soil itself does not allow for
Speaker 12: much vegetation, doesn't support the growth of or sustaining the
Speaker 12: growth of much vegetation.
Speaker 7: True, Yeah, I mean it is.
Speaker 2: It does seem to be groomed maybe and managed. But
Speaker 2: you're right, the soil it seems very like well, the
Speaker 2: soil there. It seemed really I was the word like
Speaker 2: eroded and leached. It was just very it was like dusty,
Speaker 2: very dusty type of top soil, right, So I mean dusty. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of dust in China because the ground
Speaker 2: is sold and just all the erosion and the lead shape, right, and.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, mark, is that a multi reactor
Speaker 4: nuclear facility there?
Speaker 7: I think I think it is. Well aside, I'm pretty.
Speaker 4: Sure those not only do they need flowing water and
Speaker 4: so on, but a nuclear power generation facility like that
Speaker 4: and anywhere, they need to be put in certain places
Speaker 4: where the energy is at.
Speaker 6: A certain residence that it is stable.
Speaker 4: So not only is flowing water important, but there are
Speaker 4: considerations as to where do they put the power plant.
Speaker 6: Interesting that they're right there, y.
Speaker 5: Are you aware of poverty Point mound?
Speaker 2: Mark me poverty Point?
Speaker 1: Further?
Speaker 2: The name is that the one in Saint louis You know.
Speaker 6: I think it's it's Louisia.
Speaker 7: Yeah, sorry, apologies.
Speaker 5: It's well, it was the largest pyramid in the United States.
Speaker 5: It was a massive structure that it was a flat
Speaker 5: top pyramid and they built that in front of a
Speaker 5: huge amphitheater looking thing where everybody was living and they
Speaker 5: still don't know how because it was supposedly hunter gatherers.
Speaker 5: So Poverty Point's an interesting case study as well.
Speaker 7: I was ahi on Fridays. The animals took the holidays,
Speaker 7: so they had just Friday three so that they did it.
Speaker 13: I mean, I'd be interested to know if these have
Speaker 13: been excavated at all, because there might be a big
Speaker 13: layer of sediment on top of these, and there's no
Speaker 13: telling them what they look like beneath that layer of sediment.
Speaker 3: This this place is supposed to be thirty two meters high.
Speaker 2: Two meters so about one hundred feet one hundred feet.
Speaker 8: And.
Speaker 3: The base length is two hundred and twenty two to
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty meters.
Speaker 11: So it's not that high.
Speaker 7: It's not that high to say, oh.
Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry, one hundred and fifty, one hundred and
Speaker 3: sixty five. I was looking at a different place. One
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty hundred six five minutes. That's interesting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, Nick, you you have to apologize me, but
Speaker 7: I really didn't stay any longer.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, that's fine. We're gonna wrap it up anyway. Yeah, Ricardo,
Speaker 3: do you want to wait till we wrap it up
Speaker 3: a few more minutes or.
Speaker 7: So a few more minutes. Yes, it's fine, but yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna have to wrap it up now. Anyway, I
Speaker 3: think two hours is enough. Again, like Mark, I wish
Speaker 3: I would have realized that you had that much in there,
Speaker 3: but uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is perfect, this is this is great,
Speaker 2: this is amazing, really really amazing.
Speaker 7: I want to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, if I'm going back to China next week
Speaker 2: for gonna be there planning, I have to sign a
Speaker 2: two year contract. So what I'm saying this is because
Speaker 2: clearly I'm not like I'm around. I've found a group
Speaker 2: of experts that really know their stuff, and if they
Speaker 2: know places for me to go and film and and
Speaker 2: do the tests right with, like determined the helmholds frequency,
Speaker 2: which I'm going to google after I have the guitar
Speaker 2: tuner app on my phone already.
Speaker 7: You need you need a good compass, you need a
Speaker 7: multimeter so you test it soon. And you need magnets,
Speaker 7: small magnets that you can carry with you.
Speaker 2: Magnets. Okay, I mean I'm going to always bring a compass. Yes,
Speaker 2: I'm going to google this information. I mean, if if
Speaker 2: you have like specific uh explanations how to do it,
Speaker 2: like right, like a method. I would totally accept that,
Speaker 2: and uh yeah, let me know, let me know places
Speaker 2: to film and go, because that's I'm going to be there.
Speaker 2: I want to be I want to I want to
Speaker 2: be helpful. I want to contribute just what footage I can.
Speaker 7: So sure, in order to find these type of energies,
Speaker 7: you must assume that it's not any day. So there
Speaker 7: are specific days where you find it it's much stronger
Speaker 7: and the days that you might not feel anything at all.
Speaker 7: So when you visit places that you know that you're
Speaker 7: going to want to test tuesdays of full moon, or
Speaker 7: there are certain alignments with certain planets, you check the
Speaker 7: place for. Always look for papers on archae astronomy on
Speaker 7: the site that you're visiting, and on archae acoustics of
Speaker 7: the site that you're visiting. Might not exist, but if
Speaker 7: there are, they will tell you what are the best
Speaker 7: days because you know what's the alignments of the site
Speaker 7: to visit it.
Speaker 5: You just got to learn how to use one of these,
Speaker 5: yes those before that's a function company and it has
Speaker 5: all of the planetary alignments on it. So all you
Speaker 5: got to do is learn how to use that. You'll
Speaker 5: be good to go.
Speaker 7: Okay, excellent, you have have it?
Speaker 3: Do you have a feng shwaey garden?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking you might have. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about, right, yeah? Okay, uh yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: sorry about that. Mark. Uh you know what, I let
Speaker 3: everybody plug their show too, real quick, Ethan. Just let
Speaker 3: everybody know where they can find your stuff.
Speaker 14: Ethan Andegosmith on all the usual suspects of social media.
Speaker 14: New articles on a cult research institute one one dropping soon.
Speaker 14: Appreciate all you guys. Mark, great pursuit of all this information.
Speaker 4: Of a of a really amazingly long culture.
Speaker 6: So thank you, No.
Speaker 3: Of course, thank you. I appreciate you jumping on man. Yeah,
Speaker 3: some interesting stuff for sure. Headless Giant. Please let everybody
Speaker 3: know where they can find your work and remind them
Speaker 3: about the show. Please.
Speaker 5: You got it. You can find me on Twitter Helpless
Speaker 5: Giant and on YouTube the Helpless Giant Show every Thursday.
Speaker 5: If you've got any sort of paranormal experience that you had,
Speaker 5: send it to me at the Heapless Jackpodcast at gmail
Speaker 5: dot com. Thank you, and we got dowsing rods. Get
Speaker 5: some dowsing rots.
Speaker 7: Yes, those are r to work with, but yes, and
Speaker 7: we got.
Speaker 3: D O w S.
Speaker 5: D O W S I n G dowsing rounds.
Speaker 7: You will take some explaining at the airport, but don't worry.
Speaker 6: That's gonna be a fun rabbit hole for it. Definitely
Speaker 6: look up dowsing rods.
Speaker 3: You better know what they like, like what you're doing
Speaker 3: with them in case they ask you. This would make
Speaker 3: it look like you sound like you know what you're doing.
Speaker 5: You know they love dowsing in China, They're all about it.
Speaker 3: That's great. That's I should actually get a pair of
Speaker 3: those myself too. Uh, Tim, Please let everybody know what's
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 6: H thanks for having me. You can find me at
Speaker 6: sixth Sensory Podcasts, Spotify, Apple, YouTube, Instagram.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: This has been really in lighting. This has been great
Speaker 6: side so I always happy to be here and happy
Speaker 6: to do this. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: On of course, thank you. Oh yeah, those dousing rods
Speaker 3: aren't too expensive either, all the head those. I just
Speaker 3: looked it up right now. I was like, oh, holy shit.
Speaker 5: I gotta grads and a pendulum.
Speaker 3: You're good to get, let's be serious. I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: why the fuck havepen? I grabbed the path of these
Speaker 3: all right, yeah, Ricardo, please go ahead, sir.
Speaker 7: Okay, So, first of all, market was a pleasure of
Speaker 7: meeting you and being read all of the rest of
Speaker 7: the participants. As always, you can find me at Ricardo
Speaker 7: Calvary one at X as you've seen on the screen
Speaker 7: the whole time, and do visit the Institute Finatural Philosophy.
Speaker 7: And that's all.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, thank you, sir, and we got Tyrone.
Speaker 3: Please let everybody know where they can find your stuff
Speaker 3: in your book.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you a mark.
Speaker 7: That was wonderful presentation. Man.
Speaker 8: I was going and watching that video. I'm going to
Speaker 8: go back and watch it again and do some more research.
Speaker 8: I appreciate what you share. But you can find me
Speaker 8: on most social media. Think can be found on my
Speaker 8: website Rebirth at the word dot com. You can also
Speaker 8: find my book Journey through the Origins of History through Amazon,
Speaker 8: which way seller. So thank you appreciate this, Nick for
Speaker 8: letting me be on here with you guys.
Speaker 3: Hell, thank you, sir. And last but not LEAs Lisa
Speaker 3: the cult reject bad scientists, what is going on? Thank
Speaker 3: you for joining.
Speaker 11: Us, Thank you, thank you, and Mike kat says that
Speaker 11: he really enjoyed the show too. Mark, thank you so
Speaker 11: much for the presentation. That definitely open a whole new
Speaker 11: set of things in my head to kind of go into.
Speaker 11: And I definitely want to just plug because I don't
Speaker 11: know if you went through this in that the actual
Speaker 11: granite itself can store data for billions of years and
Speaker 11: that's why it's being explored heavily by tech. So maybe
Speaker 11: look at that, and then the low frequency that it admits,
Speaker 11: low frequency, middle frequency and stuff like that. But the
Speaker 11: rest of the rejects, thank you for having me, my
Speaker 11: apologies for my tardiness, and the only thing I like
Speaker 11: to plug it is the equot Research Institute dot org
Speaker 11: checks out there.
Speaker 3: Thank you, oh thank you. I appreciate it. And finally,
Speaker 3: the guests for the last two hours, Mark, please let
Speaker 3: everybody know where they can find all your amazing work.
Speaker 2: For sure, thank you. I guess all that footage and
Speaker 2: more can be found on my YouTube YouTube dot com,
Speaker 2: slash at Megalithic China all one word, and you can
Speaker 2: find me on x right at Megalithic China and yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess those the mean places to find me and
Speaker 2: I'll be hopefully posting more videos in the next months
Speaker 2: and years to come about China.
Speaker 7: So let's let's do that.
Speaker 2: Let me tell me what to film and i'll i'll
Speaker 2: try to get out there for you and we'll definitely.
Speaker 7: And a book, a book with images. Let's produce a
Speaker 7: book with your images.
Speaker 3: Wow, you could actually do that, Yeah, right after a while,
Speaker 3: you could definitely do it.
Speaker 2: Image book, all that stuff for sure sounds good.
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's.
Speaker 3: For people who are interested. Definitely go check out his YouTube.
Speaker 3: I mean, he has like over our long videos of
Speaker 3: like just you know, drone and stuff or whatever. Definitely
Speaker 3: go check it out. He's got a lot more on
Speaker 3: there than I even showed on here. Thank you again, Mark,
Speaker 3: and thank all of you for making it. There was
Speaker 3: some of the ones I couldn't, but there was worked
Speaker 3: out fine. It was great, great crew, a lot of
Speaker 3: awesome stuff, and I appreciate all.
Speaker 2: Of your time.
Speaker 3: Again, Thank you everybody in the chat. That's what's up.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of people here from the beginning
Speaker 3: to the end. I really appreciate that. That's why I'd
Speaker 3: got to love and until the next one, everybody, be well, lad.
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