Speaker 1: Made uh, Dean John.
Speaker 2: Pace, Sunny Sun on I haddasionn. So, what's up bad
TV in the studio? We got Pat, Dylan and Ruby
in the studio.
Speaker 3: Hey, what's that?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Guys? You guys gonna put this on your feet as well. Yeah,
do your own do your intro intro.
Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, welcome to bad TV. We're here with me, Ruby, Pat, Kaylin,
Lynette and Steph.
Speaker 1: Big room, oll.
Speaker 4: People, A lot of people, A lot of people. So Ruby,
you're visiting.
Speaker 5: I'm visiting.
Speaker 6: I'm visiting most of the time all our shows that
we collaborate with her, well, actually collaborate. She's a co
host now is via zoom? I like it in person.
Speaker 3: She lives in the Big City. I uh, I might
have rabies. We stayed in the air There was a
bat in the Airbnb that was a costing everyone in
the Airbnb in the middle of the night. So, I
don't know. I feel pretty low energy right now. I'm
really sorry, but I might have babies.
Speaker 4: Correct, did it bite you?
Speaker 3: No, it didn't bite us, but it touched a couple
of people. And I don't listen. I know bets are sweet,
but but they're they're vile creatures.
Speaker 6: They have lots of sitting over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I know you can get rabies through sexual activity though.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, oh.
Speaker 5: None of us are safe.
Speaker 6: Yeah were you there with the bat?
Speaker 5: I was not with the bats.
Speaker 6: We're good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 6: We're gonna talk to reality TV?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk. Let's talk. What do you guys want
to start with?
Speaker 4: I want to I just want to bring up though,
because before we started recording, we were talking about what
your kid is watching, which I thought was interesting, like
we're watching reality stuff, but she's watching.
Speaker 6: It's it's really weird with children watch and actually no,
you pointed out what we were watching when we were
kids was equally as weird. But now it's all homemade
and a lot of it is being uh brought to
you by I think the Ukraine. So it's all these
different videos. They're well made, very colorful. They can you
can tell they've done like this.
Speaker 3: Why do you say Ukraine are not the Ruskies? I
don't think it's the Rooskies. You don't think it's the.
Speaker 6: Rusk I don't think so.
Speaker 3: Now they're the ideological subversion crowd.
Speaker 5: You know, I wouldn't know but you know, sure, so
your child is being is being gifted The Adventures of
a little Ukrainian Girl.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's odd, it's it's really what does she does it?
Speaker 1: Does it say like like mute, It's okay.
Speaker 4: To feel mad.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get your feelings like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely feelings based. It's I'm just used to cartoons,
like I know, like Coca malan or Bugs Bunny. Yes,
those things. These things are odd very well.
Speaker 1: I've heard about Coca melanor is that what it's.
Speaker 3: Called that that Chinese malware?
Speaker 2: Yes, that if you watch they get it. They if
you heard about this, it gets the people that are
what the kids that are watching it, it literally has.
They make it so it's you're addicted. Your brain gets
addicted more and more if you.
Speaker 1: Shut it off.
Speaker 2: They show videos you shut it off after thirty seconds
in the middle of the kid watching it, they freak out.
Speaker 3: M hmm, yeah, they show tantrums. My friend said that
they only let their daughter watch cocomelan if she's flipping
out on planes. And when they put Cocomelan on on
the airplane, they can literally move the screen back and
forth and she's just completely fucking quiet and fine. It's
like a Xanax for kids.
Speaker 6: Right, where does this go? Because you guys both have
well teenagers. I always thought that social media would be
played out and it would be like the lame thing
that mom and dad did and like we don't want
any part of it. And the same goes for like
TikTok in the future. I mean, in ten years from now,
is this kind of played out and people are like, yeah,
I don't need to watch a bunch of weird, creepy
videos that are trying to get inside my brain. I
don't know, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's always social media. Is there's always gonna
be the next thing. Like if it's they're gonna go
like the TikTok's is gonna be a thing in the past.
Maybe there's gonna be something else that comes along. I
don't know, but I think they're gonna be addicted to
their phones.
Speaker 1: The rest of their life.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm still back on Facebook reels, so you know,
which to me is the same as TikTok, But my
kids say it's not the same. I don't know. Yeah,
it's confusing.
Speaker 6: The one thing I'm troubled by and my kid hasn't
experienced this yet. But I have a friend that lives
just down the street. He has an eight year old
in the ten year old. They can't sit through a
two hour movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, no, the kids can't do They can't.
Speaker 5: A lot of people though, like I have friends who
are I'm thirty one years old, and I will not
recommend certain television shows to people because I'm like, I
know that you can't not look at your phone, so
you don't deserve to watch this show because you can't
put it down, So go watch something that's less important.
Speaker 4: Well, I was just saying to Lynette right before we
started that I've been watching Love Is Blind UK, which
we should talk about, but I'm loving it because I
can understand it so I can look at my phone
while it's on in the background. But I can't do
that with Mexico, Brazil, uh whatever? The other one so
South Africa was that. No, that was the ultimatum, not.
Speaker 1: How bad you love Love Is Blind? You're jonesing for
it that bad? I do.
Speaker 4: I do love that show, and I don't know why.
Although I was a little more a little bit more
bored with this one for the lead up.
Speaker 3: I started UK I started watching I was I think
I was just way too high and it made me sad.
But there was one girl on there that said, I
want I'm looking for somebody to emotionally stabilize me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh my god, I'm trying to think. Jesus, I
just want to Are you watching k now?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 6: It's amazing as always with Love Is Blind, It's I'm sorry,
it's the first episode is really boring, right, you know,
it's just everybody talking.
Speaker 1: He's like that for the first episode ever. Eat till
you get to know everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got my notebook. Okay, how many levers have
you had? Let me write that down.
Speaker 6: Yeah. My favorite episode is always the probably the third one,
because that's where all the proposals happen, and then they
give you a little tease of them at the resort. Yes,
then you get to see, oh is this all good?
Just gonna fall apart?
Speaker 5: I like when everyone sees each other for the first time,
and half the people are thrilled, in the other half
panic because they don't want to get canceled, but they're
not attracted to their spouse exactly. That's fun.
Speaker 3: We're like, I was watching this guy was like, what
do you do for work? And she was like, I'm
a dental hygienist, and he.
Speaker 4: Like, I'm a dental nurse.
Speaker 3: I'm a dental nurse. And he was like, oh my god,
no way, Oh I think I know who's the funeral director?
Speaker 1: Okay, Freddy?
Speaker 4: Well he was very cute. Yes, I like Harry Jowsey.
Speaker 6: All right, who is the weirdo who kept telling the
girl that he picked just trust.
Speaker 4: Me, Sam Sam Sam?
Speaker 3: And people is that rap rap boy? He kind of
rap boy summer and he constantly talks about how he
said something about how when he's standing outside of bars,
he's going to get attention or something, but he doesn't
look like that. You look like a rat. I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 4: He kept trying to say that he's good looking, he's cute,
he's fine, exactly, he's fine. He's not like you're not
going to see him and go like ooh, he's cute.
But he's either thinks he's really good looking he or
he's trying to create that impression. So he kept saying like, oh,
like a a lot of people, they just when they
see me, they think I'm like a fuck boy. Right,
nobody's thinking that. Like, nobody's thinking that.
Speaker 5: Is there different UK things that they do like are
different things hot in the UK?
Speaker 3: The soccer teams are more important.
Speaker 5: No, Dylan like appearance was they.
Speaker 6: Are starting to We're all starting to meld into one person. Honestly,
with UK, I could if you just said that was America,
I'd be like, oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3: You can see it like there there are certain there's
some bad teeth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well the Essex is.
Speaker 3: Of it all like Essex looks like Jersey. It's like there, yeah,
it's like why are you have you have so much
tanner on.
Speaker 1: In your eyebrows? Or like I learned that from Love Island.
There's a lot of that. You can see the difference
quick diversion.
Speaker 6: You want to talk about an addictive show that melts
people's brains, Love Island my wife. That's the only show
My wife likes. When I go to bed, insists that
I do not talk. She'll stop the remote when I'm
talking while she's watching it, Yes, as if to shut up.
Speaker 3: How Daren it's her cocamelon, it's her.
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is about the show I've
watched at least five episodes at least in the back.
You're not it does watching.
Speaker 4: I can't get addicted to it.
Speaker 5: Me neither.
Speaker 4: I'm not feeling the buzz.
Speaker 6: I got a text.
Speaker 4: I got a text.
Speaker 5: Yeah, as you like reality TV. I like reality TV.
I like the relationship ones. I don't know why I
can't touch it. I've tried. It doesn't it's too it's
too much, probably for me, I don't know.
Speaker 1: There is a million episodes.
Speaker 3: That was the first time I ever watched it. I
was like, oh, this is good. Like I'm watching episode
after episode because what are they like twelve minutes long
the episode, They're like that hour.
Speaker 1: And ten They're over and hours.
Speaker 3: And every night I was burning through Love is Blind.
And then I was like, how many episodes have I watched?
And I went to the library and I saw, like,
I mean, it's like a tolkienh It's like so many
fucking episode.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Yilan, you're the one that told
me about Love Island years ago. I really told me
to watch Love Island UK, which I did, and I
was I got addicted. I didn't really watch the USA
one until this season. This season, there was a lot
of drums.
Speaker 3: Well, shame on us for not supporting Ariana.
Speaker 5: How was the host? Was Ariana good?
Speaker 1: She's fantastic? Wow, that's great, great.
Speaker 6: Pretty season?
Speaker 4: So she wasn't hosting a British one she was.
Speaker 3: This was an America inaugural.
Speaker 4: What is the difference between Love Island and any other show?
Don't they just they meet each other and then they
just decide if they want to fuck, like.
Speaker 2: They right away hooked up in a couple. Otherwise you're
risk to getting booted.
Speaker 5: Do they have sex?
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them.
Speaker 3: I thought that the thing was that if you did
hook up, you get like, you get punished somehow.
Speaker 6: That's a different show.
Speaker 5: Away.
Speaker 1: There's a new season of that out too.
Speaker 3: It's all bad. But you brought up New Jersey.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Are you guys watching Jersey?
Speaker 5: I sure, am.
Speaker 3: Did you watch the finale of Jersey? Do you watch Jersey?
Speaker 4: I haven't watched you guys talk?
Speaker 6: They just those people disgusted me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they are they just they're ruthless.
Speaker 3: They're all ruthless stuff. You should just watch the finale.
It's so funny.
Speaker 5: If if anybody doesn't watch it, honestly, better if you
don't this season's finale of New Jersey. You have women,
they are so fractured and they're all flying off the handle.
It is unbelieve. It's one of the best episodes of
housewives I've ever seen, I think, honestly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, give us like a tiny bit of background. So
Teresa and Melissa, Melissa their.
Speaker 2: They hate each other and they have for years, right,
and they keep trying to make up. Well, Teresa is
now at this weirdo loser Louie that she married.
Speaker 4: And he's maybe committed some crimes or something.
Speaker 5: This is correct, Yeah, and also like this is women
and such and there there are some Yeah, he's not
the best dude, and he.
Speaker 3: Has private investigators.
Speaker 1: Named investigating the other people on.
Speaker 3: There have been actual full blown fistfights this season between
women Jen and Danielle. Jen accused Danielle of being cheap
with her charity and paying out from the profits of
the charity, which is I think that's something that's just
done in nonprofit work.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, this is not o, g Danielle, is it?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: No, Danielle, stop, great question, different.
Speaker 3: Daniel great question.
Speaker 6: This this.
Speaker 5: Danielle then is told that her husband has boobs and
she flies across the table and and she she physically
assaults it, and you think that it's as though someone
has like hit her child or something. Reaction is instant,
and of her.
Speaker 3: Husband that has cancer by saying your husband with the cancer,
but she didn't. She just said your husband with the boobs.
And she tried to physically assault her for the second time.
Speaker 1: The second time.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's correct. And her husband is also very cute
to my knowledge, yea many. Yeah, I don't know why
that touched me.
Speaker 3: And Jen's husband looks like a jafar. Yeah, he looks
like a bizarre dealer.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: So I don't know where she's like.
Speaker 5: But you have this this one couple that is a
younger couple that is like they don't have as much money,
but they have so much love in their house and
they are such like fans of each other and it's
such great teamwork. And then this other couple that lives
in this hideous palace on the side of the freeway
in Paramus with five kids and the rain. Yeah, he's
like never home. He doesn't like her, she doesn't like him. Yeah,
this is Jen, And so they're the ones who are fighting,
and it's just then you have a set of sisters
who are fighting. Then you have people who are in
passing being told that they recall a story differently, and
the response to that is and I just turn it
down if you don't want to be insulted. I didn't lie,
you fucking cunt, and you're like, like, people start calling
each other cunts, and you're like, oh my, unbelievable.
Speaker 2: My favorite part of the finale, though, was Teresa and
Melissa are like pretty much ignoring each other most of
the time, and then when Danielle lunged across the table
and all hell broke loose and everybody stood up and
then and like Melissa was looking at Teresa, going, oh,
you're telling them just to calm down. Look who's You're
the one, You're the one that you taught. Then they
learned from you, they learned from you. And then she's
like fuck you, and Teresa's like fuck you. She has
nothing to say, fuck you. And then they're both posing
at each other like they literally have a post.
Speaker 4: They literally both have a pose off.
Speaker 3: They have a pose off, and they call each other's
they call each other.
Speaker 5: Whose yeah, yeah yeah, and then she calls them she says,
I'll make sure to tell my daughter that you called
me a whore, your.
Speaker 3: Aunt called me a whore.
Speaker 5: Today it's a beautiful episode.
Speaker 6: Yes, iry emotions and the last time we'll see some
of these people, because Andy just said that he's revamping it. Yeah,
and he also said partly I don't know how his
daughter would have seen an episode, but based upon some
language that was used back and forth on that reunion,
he just said, I thought about my kid, and I'm like,
I don't want this anymore.
Speaker 2: It's like and you created this and now he's got kids,
and I like, yeah, you have to quit your job.
Speaker 5: Then I don't know about that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now Caitlin's making hand signs.
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, oh god?
Speaker 5: Is he?
Speaker 3: Is he pret tyrannical?
Speaker 4: Sorry? Yes?
Speaker 1: It is so bossy when he speaks.
Speaker 3: So, how's Bachelor gone? Bacherette?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: How do you guys feel about Bachelorette? I I'm not
sure I.
Speaker 6: Have thoughts, ok, yes, okay, So I believe the Bachelor
Bachelorette franchise has finally just settled in as this is
what we do. We're not going to tweak it anymore.
We're just going to go back to the old ideas
that worked. We understand if we pay this much for
a season from a production standpoint, we know this many
people will listen, and that's it. And that's what the
season feels like. It just feels like two thousand and
eight Bachelorette really because for a while, Lynnette, they tried
to have two Bachelorettes. They tried to just kind of
tweak the format confusing, and I think they're just kind
of back to what worked and kind of just accepting
this is what we are. No show gets to go
twenty two years and ten at least on top.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were talking about it, like the creative confines
of any ideation that comes out of that production is
gonna be really kind of bad because it's not like
they're not going to do anything that's so creative or
so groundbreaking within the sandbox of the Bachelorette that this
season it feels like they were just like, okay, you
know what, let's stop with all the stop with the
two Bacheorette thing was. I mean, it was horrible, Like
that makes all the sense in the world. That would
be amazing television, but they have to adhere to this
fucking stupid like respect for one of the sister who
thinks that they were kind of like very reverential towards
one another and their picks, and we were like, no,
we want you to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got to kill each other. You're trying to
find your husband.
Speaker 3: Want you to kill each other? Yeah, So it didn't work.
Speaker 6: So what do you think of the season overall?
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty boring. I mean, it's easy to
make fun of.
Speaker 2: But she's the Jen Jen Tran from last She was
the wasn't she like one of the she was like
in the top seit I did watch last.
Speaker 4: Year, So here's what happened. She's last season. They really
wanted Maria, but then Maria said she didn't want to
do it, so she was like came in third or fourth.
Then they wanted Daisy, so Daisy was in the top two,
who was like a total maga, like.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, was Daisy the one had heard?
Speaker 4: So she either she decided she didn't want to do it,
so they ended up with Jen who was like, yeah,
not not under consideration. And I think it shows in
the guys they picked for her, because there was like
one Asian guy. And this isn't just me saying this,
Like she said she was disapp pointed in the fact
that like, I feel like, if you realize, okay, Jen's
are a bachelorette, like, go back and find some guys
that if she says like I want representation, like it's
not I'm totally I'm the first Asian bachelorette. Show me
some Asian guys, like also.
Speaker 5: People that I want to actually, if you want me
to get married, you want me to get married, give
me somebody that I can actually bring home to my
mom because my dad left, and I can say that,
do you like this my dad look? And also like
she literally she describes it as he quit. He was like,
no more dad for me. I throw my towel and
then I quit. She as a person seems to be
quite a lovely woman. She looks like a Disney princess.
Speaker 3: She is so beautiful. She looks like a fucking Disney princess.
It's insane. But Pat called the one Asian contestant referred
to him and we all do now at this point,
but he called them tattoo.
Speaker 6: He was a small death So I'd always played really annoying. Okay,
so he deserves that. Thomas was super annoying.
Speaker 3: But but yeah, we played every time Thomas Scott brought
up Patrick Wood pull up a YouTube video of that
small I think Polynesian dwarf screaming the plane.
Speaker 1: The plane.
Speaker 4: So you have another guy who's doing pretty well on
the season named Devon who hated.
Speaker 1: Yes and really also behind Davidson.
Speaker 4: Devin is basically a nine to eleven conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 3: Sick, Yeah, sick.
Speaker 4: How do you know?
Speaker 1: Are you on Reddit reading.
Speaker 3: About all the this is the thing? Like, so, what
was Daisy not tapped because she was too mega?
Speaker 4: I I don't think The Bachelor has any problem with that.
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say. You find out
all of these people on the show, especially the men,
you'll as they go further into the competition, you find
the Facebook posts and all the shit.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: The problem is they're not just like Republicans. They're like hardcore,
hard right, like liking all kinds of crazy ship and
that's who she's These are like the top guys.
Speaker 5: And that's not I don't believe that's her, right, Like
I didn't watch Joey season, but and so and I
have not deep dived dived into her anything. But I
don't believe that she seems to be supportive of that
type of behavior.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine.
Speaker 5: And I think too that the we love Marcus, but
Marcus and the most mar is our military guy, and
he's lovely, but he's gonna.
Speaker 6: Be top three.
Speaker 3: He's I don't know if he's going to be top
three because what Ruby's alluding to is that he suffered
a very very very very very very grave injury in
the fields of combat, and it just doesn't look like
he's mentally capable of being on this television show right now.
He stood over a grenade in Afghanistan.
Speaker 5: That then blew up, and then he had to relearn
how to live his entire life. You're a hero And
then she.
Speaker 3: Asks him if he's okay after a rugby match and
he just starts crying and says, I don't want to
be perceived as Week and it's just like, dude.
Speaker 6: Well hold on, that guy loved his kidney to buy heroin.
He made a triumphant come back and he actually won
the fries.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he shouldn't have been on TV either. And
you know, fast forward and you've got him screaming at
Taha during a marathon to speed the fuck up.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 1: He is a guy that sold his kidney for Heroin.
Speaker 3: I think he was considering it.
Speaker 6: He wrote some of bad checks from his dad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wrote some bad checks from his dad's bank account.
And then his dad staged in the ambush at the
bank one day and he was trying to write a
bad check for the fourth time to buy Heroin. His
dad walked in. He was like, buddy, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: Wow, this poor bachelorette just got a pool of former
former season.
Speaker 4: Season and and that guy at one he chose him.
He's been sober a long time though, he's been like
over ten years. Hey, we need to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
Speaker 3: Can can we take your pulse on? I don't even
know what his name is. We call him Goose and Blaze.
Speaker 6: Oh we've changed the top gun. I believe the Rosebrooks
h has named Blaze. Our Blaze is their.
Speaker 3: Maga Maga Okay, Maga Sam Sam Good look.
Speaker 4: Sam Sam, whose accent changes depending on who he's talking to.
Sometimes he's so political elites, you know, and sometimes he's like, Yo,
what up, bitch.
Speaker 6: He gets I'm gonna fuck you up.
Speaker 3: He gets so black, so fat and it's like it's
like not okay. Now there are other black guys in
on the show, and we talked about like, what are
these guys thinking when he's ye.
Speaker 6: Him and Devin got into a couple episodes back where yeah,
the twang came out in both their voices.
Speaker 1: I do remember how many episodes has it been already?
Speaker 3: Five? You know, the entire season?
Speaker 6: Can I pitch a show? I wish reality Steve was
here because he loves me pitching him ideas they should have.
Why you why not use that hour after the episode
that late night ten o'clock spot to just do another
version of like bachel or Bachelrette House and just have
them all in a house with each other. I don't
know even know what that Yeah, just rather than wait
and do a horrible season of Bachelor in Paradise, just
always have one hour of past contestants competing for something.
They're all just having sex with each other, right, always watchuch.
Speaker 1: Like a Summer House or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I never watched Summerhouse, but like something
like that, like where they all coming they're in the
house and for one hour, for one hour.
Speaker 6: Yes, I can't stand the Let's jam down ten episodes
back to back of two hours of them all on
a beach somewhere.
Speaker 5: Right, they can't do Paradise like that anymore. I also
think because there aren't the benefit of it is not
four hundred thousand followers, it's like eight and they're down
there on a beach getting their fucking to there's no
air conditioning. They sleep in like twin beds with like
bugs and crabs and there's like no air It's weird,
is could you imagine having to like straighten your hair
into a full face of makeup every single time you
were on TV and no air conditioning?
Speaker 6: Not me? And also, if you the way it structured
Bachelor in Paradise as a competition, it really is not
fair to people coming in late in the game. So
that never made sense. Everybody couples up in the first
I don't know, four or five days, and then anybody
who comes in after that is just kind of.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and lams for the mode will come in
who you don't know who they are, and nobody else
knows who they are, and they walk around and they
try to get dates and then they just get bit
by crabs and they go home.
Speaker 5: Right, Literally, that's what happens to people and they're sweating
profusely the entire time.
Speaker 4: So they can't go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Are they not doing Bachelor in Paradise anymore?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 6: They'd have to. They usually start that up right around now, right, Stephanie,
you probably know better than us.
Speaker 4: I think it got canceled. Yeah, definitely, it's not happen.
I think it's not happening. Maybe they'll bring it back,
I don't know.
Speaker 3: And the other thing, like how I don't know why
ABC has this like inflated self of the self, of
a sense of self that where they put four hours
of this show on every week. Towards the end of it,
like it's Monday night, Tuesday Night, it just feels like
you're trying to get done with a bowel movement, but
you're making all of us watch it.
Speaker 6: I refuse to watch the tell alls don't watch it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I fast forward the dates, to be honest. A lot
of the dates incredible stuff. Got the dates sorry that
like competitions and stuff like that, same you know, like
fascining to see the wacky girls getting dressed up in
different you know, bridal ground gowns and like fight over it, you.
Speaker 4: Know, but I want to fast forward it on Survivor too.
The competitions I don't really care, okay, because with them
fighting on like I want them getting hungry and that
at each other exactly, Like I don't care about like, oh,
you have to swim out to this booie and then
swim back Encyclopedia.
Speaker 5: Survivor so much more than I should. I think that
show is one of the greatest social experiments we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: And her boyfriend zoomed. They were on different coasts, so
they got together and they zoom watched the finale together
because I love that. That's how important that show is.
Speaker 5: Still going strong, right, Oh yeah, yeah, there have been
some changes to the new the new era.
Speaker 3: What do you think of the competitions? They are a
lull for.
Speaker 5: Me as well when I'm wating once they are starving.
The competitions are really They're actually a feet to watch.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mostly watch the competitions for Jeff because Jeff commenting
on it is that should be a show in itself.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best hosts.
Speaker 3: He's probably the best. Yes, yeah, I mean to see
Jeff Probes get into a wake or a shoreline and
just scream, there's nothing like it on TV. It's perfect.
Speaker 5: And he calls people out to totally. He's kind of
savage to people. He also he has to deal with
people who they get a cast of characters on that
show that are nutbags, they're insane, they're weirdos. Some of
them are cool, some of them are not. And he's
just never phased by any other stuff. That's great.
Speaker 3: He gives me Tom Cruise energy. I get Tom Cruise
energy quick.
Speaker 4: Jeff Prope's story, I'll make it super fast. Many years ago.
I've told this on our show before. I worked on
a show as a producer. It was a pilot, it
never got picked up, and Jeff Probes was the host,
and he could not have been any nicer. He was
super insecure though, which was like very cute. I'd love Tom.
If I ever run into him, I'll have to remind
him because he called all of the producers afterwards and said,
like I just want to know, like, how do you
think I did? Like is there anything I could do better?
Like is there any weaknesses I had? And the show well,
it was so stupid. It was for Fox and it
was years ago when when Mike Darnell was like Mike
Darnell would come up with a show idea, and his
show idea was like I wanted like a dating show,
but like if people fuck like they win. And my
friend Phil Gurn's company and Phil was like, Okay, so
that's the show we're going to do. And I was like, well,
you can't really do that because you're asking, like, you
can't you can't reward a guy for like date rate
basically like we got to so we had to Love
Island's doing that exactly. Well, this was many many years ago,
like pre kids, so this was like over twenty years ago.
So anyway, I just remember that. We were like, okay,
how can we work around that? Like maybe you have
little goals like if you can get the girl to
tell you to you know whatever, if you can put
your arm her, like let's let's tone it down a
little bit. But anyway, Jeff was like, all right, what
do you want me to do? Because it was pre Survivor.
He was not anybody at the time, so he was
just like I'm in what do I Okay, so these
people have to have sex, okay, you know, and it
was really funny.
Speaker 6: We had obviously Mark Wahlberg. I'm not sure if it
has been announced Mark, there hasn't. Okay anyway, our friend
Mark Wahlberg used to host a show called Love Temptation
Island Temptation Island two thousand, talking about all the ideas
that came out of the early versions of reality TV.
Temptation Island. I remember dating a girl and we drove
home sixty miles an hour to get home for the
finale of that show. And that was the same year
that they launched Survivor Too, Yes, yeah, and shortly after
his Bachelor and then it was off to the rasis.
But we had Mark and studio and I played some
reality shows that were like really crazy, mean spirit. Do
you remember one called are You Hot?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, ABC? I was at ABC when it came out.
Speaker 4: Wasn't it hot or not?
Speaker 1: It was hot hot or not?
Speaker 5: But with are you.
Speaker 4: His little red his little pen and point out the boob?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: That lasted like, look, man, you've got a great chin line.
I think you're pretty hot. Yeah, great biceps, Yeah, man,
I'm gonna give you a seven point two.
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous.
Speaker 6: We were young, ridiculous.
Speaker 3: And then of course there was the Swan, Yes, which
which is that what launched Yes, sir, that's what created
the Thank you the Swan for giving us the monster
that is Terry Debrew.
Speaker 4: Oh so on the Swan, you don't know. This would
be people that would come in for like a whole
bunch of plastics, a different person Frankenstein experience, and then
they would have a special hotel for them where you know,
you'd have to recover recovery, and then they'd have to
but you know, the recovery would go on like six months,
like you can't have a facelift, and like all right,
you know, you're two weeks later. It's no bachelor. It's
like then they have to follow these people. Then they
come out for their big reveal, but it's been like
nine months or whatever, and they're like okay, And they
would all look the same. It was all that plastic surgery.
They all have their tea, same nose, teeth, and.
Speaker 3: It was this psychotic eyes wide shut kind of grand
ceremony at the end where they would walk out into
this foyer and all the doctors who had given these
women knew arms all like clapped for themselves and their work.
It was fucking psycho.
Speaker 6: I actually thought in two thousand and four, I'm like,
all right, are we a couple of years away from
being gladiators with swords killing each other? And we're gonna
watch I mean it's called UFC without the swords now,
but it was coming. There was another show that we
found that we did with Mark Wahlberg, which was called
Are You My Dad? Do you remember that one? Oh?
Speaker 5: I do I remember that?
Speaker 6: Yeah? So Dad's living in a house with girls and
they wanted to know if which one was their dad?
And it was a crazy premise. It was just girls,
I believe, so stuphed.
Speaker 4: It'd be great if the girls, Like if if people
didn't know what the premise of the show was and
you surprise them with it, so they think they're on
a dating show. So the dad, the older guys are
trying to date these like young women. They're like, this
is the best premise ever. I love this show. And
then you find out like, oh, that girl you were
trying to date was your daughter.
Speaker 1: That would be great, like Man or have you guys
seen next?
Speaker 6: Okay? So I felt all right, so did you guys
watch Milk manor yes? Okay, then can we talk about
this season one. I dropped off episode three once the revealed.
Speaker 5: Life two weird, two weird, you don't like it, uncomfortable
to watch?
Speaker 6: Season two? I said, you figured it out.
Speaker 1: So what did they do for season two?
Speaker 6: Season two? They had stuff? Did you watch? No, you
didn't watch? Okay, So season two they have a bunch
of not my title MILFs in the house and then
they had the son's young guys and they hang out
with twenty two year old guys in the house for
about a day or two. Then their dads show up.
Speaker 1: Oh so the guys dads.
Speaker 6: The guy's dads. And now that the dads and their
sons areating for the.
Speaker 2: Attention, Oh okay, and it's a little that's better than
the first season now was so creepy.
Speaker 6: So that's fun, except the show has no real stakes
because they try and rush you to an ending where
they're going to stand at the end of a beach
launch and then decide if they're going to go off
into the sunset with each other, at which they're not okay,
And so that's where I.
Speaker 5: Felt, did you guys watch that show? I forget what
network it was on, but it was literally nude people
and they would expose small parts of your body.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, what great show.
Speaker 5: And that was like just everybody's beautiful. Here we go, right,
Like if you want to be able to learn how
to tell somebody you're fucking hideous and not my type
but really really politely, that show did that twenty times
an episode.
Speaker 1: Really well, like your.
Speaker 4: Penis, but what I prefer a penis that's a little
like leaner, right, like you have kind of your and
also that's what they would literally kind of do.
Speaker 3: We're very ignorant in this country to.
Speaker 6: Dick, but like Dylan pointed out, because we did. We
looked at all six penis offerings in a particular episode.
Dylan went through one by one and judged them. One
of them looked like an alien, like had a head
coming out of our head.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really horrifying thing that foreskins can kind of warp
into that we don't we don't really know in this country,
but in other countries, the foreskins warp into things that
are really really horrifying. But they imagine letting somebody down
with all the clothes on, you know, that'd be difficult
and people could be very rude about it. Imagine looking
you know, some looking at somebody's penis and there's kind
of like a raisinet of skin at the tip of
the penis and you have to say, like very cordially,
like that makes me sick, but you know what you get.
Speaker 4: You can do a lot more like with puppetry of
the penis. Oh yeah, with the foreskin.
Speaker 6: What was the name of that show?
Speaker 5: I really can't it was.
Speaker 1: It was on recently we talked about it.
Speaker 6: Dropped six episodes. It had been popular in the UK.
Speaker 4: They were always ahead of us, like Naked Love or
something like it, Naked Naked Naked.
Speaker 6: When you have a show like that, vis.
Speaker 4: Like, I don't work here, I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 6: He's looking it up where else? I think he is.
Speaker 4: I don't think he is. Oh no, he listens up
on the smaller computer. He's watching it.
Speaker 5: He's watching TV Naked Attraction, all right.
Speaker 6: So that show pushes boundaries because they would then follow them.
Once the person picked the other person, they would go
on a date and the three episodes I saw they
always had sex. They did yes, and then they'd follow
up with them like a month later and they were
still dating. It actually had a better kind of.
Speaker 3: Success rate than the average.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you guys.
Speaker 5: Did you guys ever watch the I saw commercial the
other day for Date My Mom and Next those two
shows that were on MTV. Oh, really, really wild that
those got to exist for any period of time.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well it's nuts, Pat's We've broken down many
more segments on various different shows. But the fact that
that was allowed to exist for as long as it did.
My Mom, No, Maury's genetic testing segment.
Speaker 6: Like you are the father and then you have a
dude jumping up and down.
Speaker 3: Jumping for joy, like the kid is in the back. Sorry,
are we not going to cancel moret I?
Speaker 5: Or there's just moms standing up over some man crying
going I told you, I fucking told him, And there's
always the kid there watching it.
Speaker 6: It happen, so I don't have a dad block.
Speaker 3: Was that okay?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: It was okay, It went on very I think it
ended in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6: It did, Yeah, and they signed a contract where the
reruns will be on for the next twenty years.
Speaker 5: And he released a paternity test Maury.
Speaker 3: Oh like a brand like for you to use.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 3: Not only did he not yet shamed for that, he
rolled out a product line off of it tears to him.
Speaker 6: I love how that show started out earnestly like interviewing
political figures an artist, and then it just evolves more
the audience wants pregnancy tests and uh.
Speaker 5: And wasn't Jerry Springer like a mayor of some Yes
he was, and then he lost.
Speaker 6: Because he wrote a check to a prostitute. He wrote
a check.
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, Jerry, Sorry quick Jerry Springer story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard him.
Speaker 4: Whose line is it? Anyway? He was a writer guest
as a writer. He came on as like a guest,
I don't know, being funny, being doing improv and uh,
totally hit on me and asked me for my phone number,
but then never called me. Was there anything? He was
already like twice my age at the at the not
that he's gotten roughly here.
Speaker 6: I'm curious of what level he's.
Speaker 4: Nineties okay height of the Springer Show, but also kind
of disgusted because I mean, what would I do if
he called me? But also like if he called me,
that's kind of cool, Like Jerry Springer. I think I
might have still had no maybe we had voicemail at
the time, but I remember thinking if he calls me
and leaves me a voicemail that's going to be my
outgoing housage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, incredibly Yeah, but he never called I know, and
he's dead now. So yes, yes, still no chance.
Speaker 1: We have to take another let's say another break and then.
Speaker 4: Okay we're back.
Speaker 6: Can we do a little Orange County? Yes?
Speaker 1: Orange County? Yes, Yes, I'm down.
Speaker 6: Okay. So I had been saying that this cast is
especially mean, all of them, and I had pointed out
that Emily is like VI p of me for a
couple of reasons when people push back, Okay, especially after
what the Gunilson did this past episode. Did you watch
this week? She was on her there's even a word
for the high horse.
Speaker 1: She was on right, right.
Speaker 4: We are all Christian women. We believe in Jesus.
Speaker 5: You believe that Jesus.
Speaker 4: You believe Heather, you don't believe that Jesus, You're going
to hell?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Well, then, and then Emily goes roll the clip of
Vicki and I wish.
Speaker 6: They would have let it run longer. They literally have
three years of back to back clips of her just
being the worst horrible human being. Emily, especially though, because
she's going after Jen who's broke gen right, Yes, someone
sent me because I had been watching the show for
a number of years and always remember that Emily, And
why am I not thinking.
Speaker 1: Of her husband? Emily?
Speaker 6: We both went to law school later in life and
had kids, and his parents floated them and still kind
of float their right shelf completely forgotten that and that
buried And then someone sent me an article this morning
where she talks about how his parents basically float them.
So I cannot believe that she has the balls to bust.
Speaker 1: At true a good point, that's a good point.
Speaker 4: But yeah, but Shen is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jen is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Just when you feel sorry for her, she's like, why
shouldn't I wear my Rolex because you.
Speaker 6: I just should wear it?
Speaker 4: I don't know, couldn't afford the rent?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like there's it's Erica Jane with the ear rings.
When you're being accused of stealing millions of dollars from
plane crash victims that your husband evilly, like a criminal gremlin,
took from them when they were dead, you shouldn't wear
earrings that are worth three hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: That's just what you shouldn't do.
Speaker 5: Each Yeah, and now this is the same thing.
Speaker 1: She's his lot, he's in court, his court Triald just
started this week.
Speaker 5: It is shocking that she is still a lot healthy.
Speaker 3: There's we were talking about it on the last episode
that we did is I don't think there's a single
housewife that I find more vile and evil than Tamra.
I don't. I don't think that there's anybody her.
Speaker 5: The Tamra to us Emily is mean and there's no
denying it. Yeah, Tamra will go like she'll be there
for people like Shannon after she was getting or when
she was getting divorced, her after David cheated on her
and all that stuff, and then she purposefully uses it
against you, like Shannon or Tamar's sitting there at the
dinner being like, was that before or after you have
a drink? I'll hit you in your fucking face. You
are a mean bitch for no reason.
Speaker 2: And why does her voice go up for octaves when
she's when she's yelling, you know, like at the dinner table.
Speaker 1: It's so screwed, So cringe.
Speaker 6: Tamarra shameless plug for a friend of the show, Kay Casey.
She just had tam Rat on and tam Rat was
saying how her getting kicked off the show for a
little while actually helped her coming back to this. And
I think looking at it as kind of a job,
which my job is to be a shit star, and
if that means being a horrible person who cares, it
makes great TV. Yeah, so tam Rat may be looking
at this now as really just her job. But I'd
say throwing every single friend that you have under the boss,
no loyalty to anybody, including Eddie. Who Eddie, You'll be
handed your walking papers when she needs a storyline in
two years. Trust me. Yeah, I just that would not
be the kind of life that I would want from myself.
Speaker 3: She's just such a disgusting human being. And I get
like this shit stirring and stuff like that, but Tamra
does it in a way that is so revolting and
skin itching, and like her sitting down with Boobs, Jesus, Jesus,
she gave her the way and she did just all
sewing all of this stuff and just the way that
she operates is disgusting. I agree.
Speaker 5: And she also heard the way that she teams up
with people in times of convenience and then immediately is
dropped as soon as the it just she had. Like
you said, she has no loyalty to anybody. I think
that she is. Her children are. I'm shocked that they
have turned out the way that they have as well
as they have. Her daughter seems very well adjusted. I
loved that she was like, I'm not your fucking therapist,
Stop talking to me about this. Tamara is the most
self absorbed, like everything is about her, and she's an
awful human being.
Speaker 4: But Kyle, forget her. Son is one of the worst.
Speaker 5: I don't mean Ryan. Ryan's not what I mean. I
mean the younger girls.
Speaker 4: Ryan is horrific.
Speaker 5: He's a disaster of it. He's literally he's one I'm
not kidding, and I'm not I say this like with
like a little bit a little sliver of pain in
my heart for him because he was raised fucking by her.
But he is the type of son that you have
that I actually think it would it would break your
heart because he's he's horrible to his the mother of
his daughter.
Speaker 4: You google what does he do like for a job? No,
Cross City did well? He domestic abuse? I mean he
he hurt his the woman. Yeah, but also he came
out with this thing. This was a few years ago.
This is when I stopped watching the show because to
boycott him. But he came out with this. He went
on this transphobic rant and basically advocated for murdering trans people.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 4: And I was writing to Andy Cohen. I was just like,
how can you have him on the show, Like I'm
not like literally was like people should kill trans people.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Like he doubles down on it when he's called out too,
like there's no like, that's not what I meant. Like
there's like a yeah, I fucking said it and what
And You're just like, what is what? It's dark? It's
a dark look.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna always connect the parent with the child's
bad behavior. But did tam racket any shit for that?
Speaker 4: Yes? Well, first of all, he started with a different situation.
He was just like anti trans. So he was talking
about a woman who let her kid transition and he
was just like it's disgusting, blah blah blah. And then
Tamra this was all like on Twitter, the original thing,
and then Tamra agreed and then yes, a lot of
people came for Tamra and she was like, oh well,
I was just saying like I don't. But then he
went on a crazy rant about a different person. And
that's when Tamara was like, okay that, yeah, I don't.
I don't what he's saying. I do not agree with that.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 4: But still that's your kid. And you started out agreeing
with like to me, you don't get to agree with
some stuff. But then oh well, like, yeah, I think
it's disgusting. But okay, now he's gone too far.
Speaker 3: And oh, yes, she is the worst.
Speaker 6: We also here's an example, so I think back ten
years ago, Gretchen wasted at the dinner table.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think about this all the time.
Speaker 6: Tam Rat essentially urges her son to because she's wasted
in the bathroom, to just go in there because she's
drunk wasted or.
Speaker 1: Something naked, wasted, wasted, And just.
Speaker 6: Think about that. Tam Rat wasn't a twenty three year
old mother at that point. Tam Rats in her forties
engaging this type of thing. Yes, yeah, yeah, I'm not
a fan of hers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, with teenage daughters at that point, her daughters that
were like ten or something like, she has daughters.
Speaker 4: Fort in to get raped. And basically remember when that
was the whole thing where she did that hand gesture
that was like fingers the pink, one of the stink
or whatever. Yeah, telling him her son gave the hand signal.
It was a whole scandal at the time that she
was basically yes, going yeah, go in there and assault her.
She's so drunk.
Speaker 3: So is there anybody that is even remotely close, Like
I know, Teresa went to prison and stuff.
Speaker 5: And Teresa is just a vapid dumb She's a bitch,
but she's so dumb that you kind of like her
her level. I like her going to prison. I genuinely,
I do not think that she has the capability to
understand what the fuck she was signing. I think she
did as she was told. Granted you're not allowed to
do that.
Speaker 3: You can't.
Speaker 5: Tamra is like there's a level of cunningness behind it
and evil that I I don't know that everyone else
that anyone else has.
Speaker 3: Because Kyle Richards like it produces on the fly, and
she's very annoying and she's protected and we hate her
for that, but she's not, Like I don't think she.
Speaker 1: Doesn't have a black heart.
Speaker 5: She really does.
Speaker 4: Is annoying.
Speaker 2: Can we just agree like s is our downer and
annoying and a perpetual victim.
Speaker 6: Yes, and when you met her dad this episode is
this is the first time.
Speaker 1: We ever met her dad, Jean Jean the dance Yet we.
Speaker 6: Told her to go for the juggler.
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
Speaker 2: By the way, she's gonna spend seventy five grand to
fight seventy five.
Speaker 3: Grand like you spend one hundred and fifty to get
her Dad's loaded though, right, she comes from money, But
I think I don't know what seventy five grand is
to her at this point.
Speaker 5: I first of all, her facelift looks fantastic. The facelift
was great. It was worth every penny that being said.
She needs to stop crying and she just needs to
be a little bit more embarrassed about how emotional she
is outwardly. I think, and about this specific like Johnny
Jay got to get rid of john We gotta let
him go, We gotta let him go.
Speaker 1: How gross is he?
Speaker 6: Just?
Speaker 2: I mean, this is the fact that now he's dating
Jesus Jugs. But but did you hear in the trades
they said something like he wanted to pay her not
to be on the show.
Speaker 6: Hey Jesus, yeah, are you kidding me. She's been waiting
ten years to get I know.
Speaker 2: But she said to some reporter that, oh, Johnny would
pay said he was going to pay me not to.
Speaker 1: Be on the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said he would her salary.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think she's lying about that.
Speaker 5: I do. I hope that she is, because if he
did say that, that's insane. And she said, I think
this we're last week that they're getting married. That she
when she was like, Shannon, you're gonna come for the
man that I'm gonna marry. Absolutely not, I'm gonna and then.
Speaker 3: And and and stuff like that. That really reminds you
that Alexis Bilino should be institutionalized.
Speaker 2: She's a job when she's talking and when she's doing
her confessionals and she's like, Oh, you're gonna invite Debbie
Downer to the golf thing and you're not gonna invite
me Alexi, who's a good time like then shakes her
boobs and the camera.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 5: It is insane.
Speaker 1: But and she's got a screechy voice too.
Speaker 6: I am enjoying her return, though I'd love to have
Gretchen back on as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that she's lying about the John Jay thing,
because I think that they're the only person that wanted
her on the show more than her is him. I
just I don't buy that.
Speaker 6: He He's like Ryan who's dating Jen, who's embroiled in
a scandal of his own.
Speaker 1: He's another creed.
Speaker 6: Why do they pick these crews?
Speaker 2: I don't know, because she's a dumb ass, first of all,
I mean she really she I think she just yes,
I think she just what's his scandal?
Speaker 5: Do you know?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Tony, he may have laundered some money from the
guy who so Otani's the new daughter, he's like the
star and got like a five million dollar contract or whatever.
He had what do you call it, a translator? Yeah,
and the translator and bezzled sixteen million dollars out of
his account for years doing well for example, and they
needed help in bezzling laundering some of that money. And
this guy Ryan is in some of the corresponding.
Speaker 5: Are you serious the money was in his account? I'm
pretty sure at certain points like they were using his
bank accounts.
Speaker 1: To no idea.
Speaker 4: That's crazy.
Speaker 6: So yeah, he's a prized he's a scumbag. One note
on Shannon, but door. Yes, I think she A lot
of these people would be helped by having a day job.
I think the idle hands of the Devil's playground with
her when you wake up at nine and then of
course you do some yoga and then you have eight
hours to kill until the kids come home from school
or something you need to do. Yes, it's pretty easy
to stare at that bottle from across the room and
get started around. Now. Oh that's what I think is
her agree she needs more purpose and I think we could.
Speaker 2: I think Tamor even said that on her walk with Emily,
like she's like, we're scrappy. We get you know, we
get to work and stuff. But I don't know if
she was what she's talking about. I think she was
talking about Jen.
Speaker 5: Yes, Tamurai will say you And the only thing I'll
ever give her probably is she did get divorced, and
then she was like, I got to make some I
got to get some dimes, and I got my real
estate license and I was not going to go back
and live with that fucking monster and I wasn't taking
a shit, So I wanted to do this on my
own and she did, which is I also like she
admits it, like she doesn't come for money, like they
were poor, and so she looks at someone like Jen
and is like, what the actual fuck.
Speaker 3: Are you get to fifty years old without having a
credit card in your name.
Speaker 6: That's pretty that's crazy possible. I will say this though,
to Ruby's point, Ruby, they're not allowed to say, go
break the fourth wall. Tam Rat at some point was
making a half a million dollars a year for being
on this show, right. I think they've now renegotiated. That
was part of why. I think they made Vicki a
friend and then had Tamara because they wanted more money.
Because think about at the height of that, maybe even
five or six years ago, how popular Real Housewives was
Orange County And to think all that money's coming in
and they're giving basically the people drawing all the eyes
in a half a million crazy to think, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sell too much money?
Speaker 1: Yeah, too much money. Especially Vicki.
Speaker 6: I mean, she's the og and she you can tell
every scene she had.
Speaker 4: A friend.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would too. She started, she created her, and
tam Rat laid out the blueprint for all of this.
Speaker 3: Right, Who's who said tam Rat?
Speaker 6: Who's is tam Danny Pellergrenew.
Speaker 5: I think it's Danny Pellegrene now right.
Speaker 6: I mean it's not that clever of a name.
Speaker 4: I just just settle this. John Jansen did not give
Shannon money for a facelift. That money was alone. I
believe him on this. I he's horrible, but you do
not wire that level of money and then another payment
unless Shannon is like I need more money? Can I
borrow some money?
Speaker 6: Or if he's like so, definitely, I agree with you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't think he was.
Speaker 4: If he's so broke or whatever, he doesn't have like
if she why is she paying for everything? And then
suddenly he's like, oh, let me just gift you. Oh
want a facelift? That's on me.
Speaker 3: Here's my thing, though, if if you're going to threaten
to sue somebody, you better have some kind of paperwork.
Speaker 5: I hope he does, because if not, it sounds like
he has wire transfer seats. I don't know how you
can prove that that's you have to what correspondence and
it's alone?
Speaker 4: But was about it?
Speaker 6: Was it alone or a gift? And this is where
it gets really the gray area, because it could have
been both. It could have been some conversations of hey,
I'll loan you the money, don't and then don't worry
about it.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, and then and then here we are. That's
my only thing. Like it might have been alone, but
they're in a less than meaningless relationship so there are
no legal constructs around. It's not a marriage.
Speaker 6: I just feel bad for Archie.
Speaker 3: Archie.
Speaker 1: Well, but then Alexis got a dog just like Archie did.
Speaker 5: That was weird, intentional, it's crazy, psychotic.
Speaker 1: Too on the nose, like what the fuck?
Speaker 5: Also, yeah, I was going to say, I gotta say,
Alexis coming back was what I think we needed something
to and she was a good judge. I'm here for
a great season.
Speaker 6: I wish Katie and I hope Katie can bring I
think it's a great start. She will get eaten up
by the machine. Even saw this week in a scene
where she's like, oh, you guys will all sell me out.
And I want someone to go for HD. Someone needs
to take Heather to brod down. I have personal stories
of her being an absolute horrible person. I prompted other
people to come in a bunch of people wrote in
like their own individual horrible Heather to bro stories She's
an absolute nightmare, a horrible person. He's equally as horrible,
and I want them to be taken down.
Speaker 1: Yew.
Speaker 6: Well, I can tell you that botched. After the second
season was successful, they went to both doctors, Terry and
I forget who the other, and Paul was all on
board with this. They said, let's add a female doctor.
Let's kind of bring this out. Terry's like, nope, it's
my show. No female refused. I think that's pretty cold.
The guy who's always speaking to let's empower women and
his wife always say, here's an opportunity to present a
female plastic surgery on this established platform. And he was like, no, go,
so talk out of one side of your mouth. That's
just one story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is I mean, what do you guys think
about the paparazzi thing? You think that? I think it's
so stupid.
Speaker 6: If I knew you could call a paparazzi Lynnette, Okay,
if I have that number, I would except go to
TMZ dot com. There is a number on the front
page that says, if you know there's a celebrity, call
here and we'll give you a fee, right right, So
that number exists. Harry we're not idiots, so they think
we are.
Speaker 4: One guy, I just don't buy this whole thing of
like I know, the guy that is in charge of
all paparazzi showing up at any possible place. And then
her proof is going like, hey, did she call the
pop the pops? Yes, right, the receipts?
Speaker 1: Who cares? Why is she bringing this to the tailor?
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, that's not going to take Heavin down?
Speaker 5: Yeah, nobody cares. One two Heathery likely called them. She
called them. Everybody knows she called them. She called them,
but nobody cares. And also that that it was such
a weird way to say it when Katie said her phrasing.
And I love Katie, but she was like, and my
friend runs the paparazzi, And I was like, why why
does that mean, Kitty? That's what possible right right?
Speaker 6: Well, I just hope they get a townhouse on the
moon when it's available, so none of us need to
hear from them again. You know they love to buy property.
Speaker 1: Yah, they do love their property.
Speaker 4: That guy, her husband, though Katy's husband is such adult
mister Golfy, Like he looks translucent, right, He's like with
his gray hair and note, I mean he's the most
non and then the fact that on their first date
apparently he just never showed up and his excuse was
he was just tired. This woman is after the money.
Speaker 5: And she got it and she got it. Yeah. I
think they like each other, though I will say that
like some of them, you can tell, like the aiden ones,
like they actually their husbands are like I wish that
you would die. I wish that you would die, and
I'll figure out how to mourn with the kids. You
are awful. I think that they're like, we can sit
with each other for like an hour and a half
and I want to be miserable. And that's that's the way.
Speaker 3: It's all you can hope. That's all you can hope for.
Speaker 1: All Right, this has been fantastic.
Speaker 3: God for crying out loud, five stars, kind words, do
it right now?
Speaker 4: And bad TV. Don't forget bad TV.
Speaker 3: Don't sleep on that TV.
Speaker 1: You guys.
Speaker 4: It's a great show. Yeah, you guys have a very
active Facebook page.
Speaker 3: We never go on post all the time, and I
apologize to our fans about never going on it, but
I just never go on it. I should go on it,
Yeah you should.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I should Yeah, why do you hate your fans?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I you know, they disgusted me. No, I love
our fans, most of our fans. Couple of our fans,
so we'll.
Speaker 4: Not forget to promote Bonfire Talks. That's our friend Mark
Wahlberg's podcast, you know.
Speaker 6: That show that he used to host. I guess is
coming back shells.
Speaker 4: So that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope.
Speaker 6: So yeah, and so they announced it, they announced it.
Speaker 3: I just want to clarify something really quickly. I love
all of our for our fans that when I said
a couple of them, I meant I've.
Speaker 6: Already the ones that he's thrown you out of the face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if if you're hearing this, you're not one of
them I've thrown. I've thrown you out of the Facebook
groups and Patreon patre Oh yeah, I pay you well,
go get out of here.
Speaker 6: Funk off.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 6: Every day light you're apparently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't fuck it up.
Speaker 6: Don't fuck it up.