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Speaker 2: By the lung Taylor Field the lung.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm that way.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm at for you.
Speaker 3: No, you're you're pointing at me right now.
Speaker 1: No, on my screen. I'm not on my screen.
Speaker 3: I'll show you. Okay, point again.
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for the people that don't know, so I'll call it
this way. Hang on, I'll go see fingers pointing that way,
and then I'll send it to you after. But uh,
crookand's big. What the people are like? Fingers? And then
look when I when I show it to you for
people that don't know. On audio, I pointed to Taylor
my intro and when I point to him for him.
Speaker 3: Is your camera mirrored or something?
Speaker 1: That's No, I think your camera's mirrored.
Speaker 4: You No, your camera's mirrored because when I look at
this photo, you're oh.
Speaker 3: Near Mikey on other side.
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Taylor Field, speaking of good stuff, was this episode more
good stuff for you? Discuss? Discuss?
Speaker 3: I would say so, I think it was great, like
to quote.
Speaker 4: A certain Discord member in our chat that let's see
if I can find.
Speaker 1: God won't save you. Oh no, sorry, I put that
in a different one. I don't know what you're I
have no idea what you're quoting, but I'm gonna say
that you should have probably had this ready for uh.
Speaker 3: So, I mean, I'm super bad.
Speaker 4: Mic says that there's the Holly slow Burn right there.
Definitely took me back to Legion days now. I've not
seen Legions, so I don't know. But as far as
I'm concerned, like slow Burn, I didn't get that at
all this episode. I was actively engaged, and I feel like, Okay,
we had that exciting started to this episode, and I
feel like, okay, all the dialogue. Well, I was maybe
a bit concerned moving forward because I thought, okay, episode
one and two they were big, you know, maybe they
were pulling in action heavy pull up, opened me in
and everything. That very engaging and I thought, Okay, kind
of like Ring the Power, you have a big event
that happens, and then you have.
Speaker 3: All this really really.
Speaker 4: Slow burn, a lot of stuff that's just heavy set
up and narrations and build up and everything like that
to get that that thing at the end, that climatic point.
But it's like it wasn't super super climatic at the end.
With this, I was worried because I thought, what are
we going to have all this in between stuff with?
In this episode, I didn't feel like there was a lot.
Speaker 2: Of slow building of the of the world.
Speaker 4: I felt like we quickly established a few different arcs
that were very intriguing, and I think, Okay, we've got
four and I'm excited to break it down because we've
got four storylines here that are impacted and with Prodigy
and just to see how this is going to unfold
and be the downfall of Project Prodigy Prodigy.
Speaker 1: I would say, though you're saying with Rings of Power,
like all things slow down, they set up a lot
for the season.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's we're talking in that show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's still set up. I think slow burn
doesn't mean boring or bad. It just means they're taking
their time. I think you're just enjoying the slow burn
more because there's not there's not like minorsports. There's not
a single action scene. Okay, there's one action scene that's
very quick, maybe under minute in this episode of Post
episodes one and two, which had a lot of them.
So I I I think it's I think this is
a slow burn and not that doesn't mean it's a
bad thing, but I think this episode is just primarily
focused on setting up setting all the pieces on the
board for the next I think it's like what I
think it's eight episodes, so this would be five.
Speaker 3: There were good slow burns I always so.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like when you watch No Gunch for Old
at some point that's a slow burn, but it's a
good slow burn. Yeah. No, slowburn does not mean mad.
It's no Holly. He just takes his time a lot,
very similar to kind of you talk about Rings of
Powers with that where there'd be some big events but
there it would take your time to get to it,
but it would do that so that when you got
to them, all the bases were covered. So yes, a
slow burn can be good Taylor in a story wise,
not in real life. Slow burn not.
Speaker 3: Good, gotcha.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it, that's it. Yeah, yeah, No, I agree
with your points that when you're talking about Mike's points there.
I'm a Legion fan, and uh yeah it did feel
very classic, no, Holly. As far as okay, we're taking
our time, we're getting lots of things on the go.
We're gonna experiment with this, uh you know, or experience
this going forward for a little bit. I'm still invested
in all the storylines, particularly what happened at the end.
I was like, oh man, we uh, I don't want
to even I was gonna make a joke, but I
don't even want to say that because I would spoil
it so in case you haven't seen it. But no,
I think this was a good episode. I've enjoyed all
the episodes, like it's weird to say I enjoyed this
one the most so far. I would say it had
like the least amount of problems where I didn't have
like a big, like a huge set of problems with
episodes ones and two. But that's where I do think
now I had some issues, not issues. There are more
concerns about Okay, I talked to this before, right, like
an alien movie is the you meet the crew and
then you kind of just get the lay of the land,
and there's an inciting incident and then you set up, oh,
there's something not right, and then third acts usually just
Ball's wall. Aliens are doing something right, which is I
felt like we kind of got that now in episodes
one to two, and we're dealing with the fallout of
an alien movie. So that's all I'm trying to look
at it right now is if you were to watch
episodes one to two, that's like Alien Earth the movie,
and this is like the oh god, the prologue, right?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Is it? Am I screwing that? What's pro the prolongs?
After the fact? Right?
Speaker 3: Epilogue?
Speaker 1: Epilogue? Thank you? I knew I was screwed up. So
that's what this feels like so far. And I think
this works better for me so far, because not that
I did not like the stuff we got last week,
but I just thought that's gonna be a tough pace
to keep up for I think this is eight episodes,
Like I will confirm that. I think it's eight episodes, right,
We talked about this last week. It's problem with all
these shows. Yeah, eight episodes, So I just thought man
being on like an alien adventure movie. That's gonna be
tough to keep up for eight hours, right, But I
think this is great where last week was like a
two hour alien movie, and now we're getting into some
stuff where I feel, even though we've talked about what's
gonna be came what's not. I will say the best
sense of not to set up any expectations, I would
say this is we're feeling more Prometheus like, and I'm
a Prometheus fan, so I enjoy that. But I think
there's multitude things I could tie to and say, Oh,
and no, obviously it's alien in general, right because Ridley
he set that up, But I feel like specifically Prometheus
because that had a lot to do with science, and
that had a lot to do with like corporations, right,
like Ms Vickers and what she's looking after and everything.
So I'm I'm very intrigued where we're gonna go now
with especially the last little bit. But no, it's yeah, no,
a good episode. I enjoyed it quite a bit. I'm
ready for next week, and now that I know what
we're kind of doing here, I'm completely fine that I
do agree with a friend the show stepmen. Colbert, we've
had Amanda, his wife on before many times and he
tweets them out and I do agree this, and this
is why I fix. I don't love the first episodes
as much as maybe you or other people that that
did really enjoy it. I felt like there was a
lot of hey, we really I'm paraphrasing what he had tweeted,
but like we really got to like the show is
afraid to lose viewers, and I feel like the first
two episodes was like go hardcore on lots of big
set pieces and the alien pop on off and the
alien going like full Priner rotating people. It did really
feel like, Hey, we've got to get people hooked on
this and then we're gonna get to the actual show.
And I know tons of people did enjoy those first episodes,
but for me, it just felt like a just kind
of a sliced up movie, which I'm not looking for.
We go on a TV show, But yeah, so far,
so far, so good as far as what we're going on.
There's a couple of questions. I have a few quality ones,
but more so just like theory crafting, Hey, what's going
on with this? What are they doing here? And it's
gonna be interesting. I think I'm I'm investing in all
the stories, except I wouldn't say I'm not invested in one,
but I definitely have like a low tier one. They're
not all equal bars. There's definitely one roem like, and
that's why I'll say it's like a quality where I'm like, Okay,
I don't know if this tracks really as far as
like I need more and it could give me more
because I trust Noah Hollley. So it's just kind of
a question mark right now. But uh, anything else before
we the spoils tore.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna get into spoils. So we're
gonna take it for a sad break and then if
you've not seen the episode, come back and watch it
or listen another time later. So we'll be right back
and we are back. So, mister Field, where would you
like to start?
Speaker 4: I just start as this is kind of like the overreaching,
not overreaching, overarching umbrella at the top here where you
got these four uh synthetics basically, and how this is
basically setting up the whole story here where you got.
Speaker 1: The Lost Boys and the Neverline kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got Wendy and basically everything that's going on
with her, and now she's kind of going through repairs
and they were kind of associating a kind of connection
with her and listening to the face hugger screeching.
Speaker 3: And then what is that? Hang on, hang on, hang on,
okay before breaking into that.
Speaker 4: And there's the other one where you have I can't
remember what her name is, like Nibbit or something, and
she's kind of like obsessed with the eye alien and
there's a story that's unraveling there. And then you have
the other guy who with Moro basically putting that like
listener Cobb's device in his knack. Now he's got that
narrative and now he's friends with Moro reluctantly. And then
you have the other one who wants to beat the
number one to Prodigy and be like the overstep and
take over what Wendy's position is. So you got these
four things, and I think all four of these robots
are going to be the downfall of Prodigy.
Speaker 1: I think. So you said there's four, there's definitely a
fifth thing that's probably gonna be the downfall Prodigy.
Speaker 3: With the fifth one of the ais like.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, you're just the ais. Okay, yeah, no,
it's not that, but it's still something that AI is doing.
Speaker 4: Hmmmmmmm. Yeah, but you want to continue on what you're
talking about with Wendy and the connection.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so last week when that happened, because they did
that multiple times, right when the xenomorphous running around and
she would hear that. But I just thought, especially lots
of those scenes when that was happening, at least I recall,
I think there was some times before she met her brother,
but when she gets with her brother, and I think
this was done on purpose, she's hearing it coming here
and moving and stuff like that quite a bit, and
I just thought, Okay, he's not hearing it because he's
a human, right, but this is like a enhanced android
that has like if if the xeno morph is hidden
so far, she can hear it. So I thought nothing
of it. Last week rare She's like, Okay, she's got
an enhanced hearing. She can hear the xeno Worf coming
when other people can't, even if she's like a better version,
because she was like the Prodigy's uh, you know, the
boy genius, his favorite. Maybe she's some perks that other
people don't. But now it does not seem like that.
It does not to me seem like a you know,
oh other people can't hear it. It's like the other
sensor there. Maybe, like I said, maybe she's more. But
this did not feel like a oh she can just
it's a power of uh hearing. It's it feels like
it's somehow linked with the with the face hugger. You know,
I guess it's just a face hugger. I was gonna
say face hugger baby, but I don't know what's going
on with that. What did you take from that?
Speaker 4: I I took it the same same initial thought that
you had, where Okay, she's got heightened hearing. She can
hear different frequencies, and she's just picking up the fact. Okay,
this these audio cues that are the aliens are emitting,
she's detecting it.
Speaker 3: Humans can't pick up that frequency and so forth. But
she's not.
Speaker 4: The only one of those synthetics in that lab when
the face huggers are going crazy and their eggs. So
it's weird because the timing of it too. The face
hugger was freaking out, but once they sedated that face
hugger with the shock and we're carving it up.
Speaker 3: She was in sync with it.
Speaker 4: The face hugger was freaking out and she was freaking out.
Then it was sedated with electrical shock, and then she
starts to calm down and walks into the lab. So
I don't know exactly because she's hearing well.
Speaker 1: Then she passed out of the end, though right at
the end she did.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's just you know, malware issues. She's not
fully back up and running, so maybe she's just hearing
things like extra extra level than what the others are.
But I don't think that the showgunners are going to
be doing that. I think, okay, they're probably making some
kind of tie in here, but she's not organic anymore.
So what kind of connection psychically could she hold with
one of these alien creatures.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It just it's it's tricky to figure out where they're
gonna go with that.
Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing, because if it was a human,
I would have say, okay, whether it's something we missed
or something they could have done something to her while
she was under it was human, I could buy right away.
Not by ray, I'm not saying the show is not
gonna not sell me what's going on. I just be
in the sense that if it was a human, I'd
have so many things to grasp on. Oh, it's probably this, this,
this or this, because I just feel like easier, like
you said, it's organic, right, but with her other than
her conscience that it's a you know, a synth body.
She got struck on the head day, had that you know,
the white milk blood come out, So it's like she's,
you know, not exactly like we've seen the past, but
she's pretty much built the same way right for the
to just compare it to like an Ash or David.
They can break there, they have robot parts in them.
So the fact that they're kind of making this for
what it felt like was a almost soul like connection or
a biological connection, which is it really threw me off.
And I'm I'm curious of how wo how they go
about that. I'm curious if that's how they because I
don't I don't. I was gonna say if they're gonna
try and do some sort of argument of like, oh,
you know, machines have sort of souls things, but I don't.
I don't necessarily know if I need an alien Xeno
more for face Hugger to be connected, Like, I don't
know if I need that debate or thought put into
the show as far as like, oh, like that to
me in the big recon for some reason of like
that not a recon, but it's an addition that I
would not enjoy with like these Xeno Wars having some
connection to the things souls like I don't We've never
seen that, and that to me would be a big leap,
even with it being a not a human. So I'm
I'm very curious. I need to definitely this is a
storyline that I need to see play out, see what's
going on, because it was a big empstcce because that okay,
it's gonna be fine, she's gonna go on the lab
and I guess, see what's up. But it was a
big struggle for and yet every time they were experimenting
on that thing, it was bugginger. So now also I
don't know what that means when we can tie it in.
This is where I said it was like Prometheus, and
I was gonna what I was gonna say in the
non spoilers, like you know, uh, David might not be
here in person, but he's certainly here in spirit because
that's what they're doing right now. Where so the brother
he's her right, he got stabbed. We will talk about
this scene now where someone that goes back into my
fucking driveway at all the driveways, man, your losy car.
So at the beginning the scene which I didn't understand
and than a horror moment, so we got I guess
we'll go back to the very beginning to set this
whole thing up with what's going on with the long hair.
So at the beginning, it's the sisters looking for what
was his name? Is it Hermit or what the hell
is that again?
Speaker 3: His I think it's I think it's Hermit.
Speaker 2: I think the hermit.
Speaker 1: So last week obviously they've they've fell off that kind
of bridge thing, right and say, okay, how does the
escape which we didn't even talk about that it looked
like they were kind of making him into that kind
of human egg farming system, right, that's what he was
gonna That's what Xenomorph was looking to do to Hermit here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically setting up the nests.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so which makes sense, you know, the eggs of
I would assume they could go back actute, they might
feel her taken. I don't know which. We'll get to
the eggs later. But anyways, so that's happening, or I
guess the eggs when it came from that Zeno morph,
right that would it came from a different xenomorph or
could that have came from that xeno morph the eggs.
Speaker 3: So the continual continuity.
Speaker 4: Of all this I don't know. My canon though, is
eggs come from a queen. You need a queen that's
an alien, or you have a David that could create
an egg out of just using the black.
Speaker 3: Goo or whatnot.
Speaker 4: Because the oh, actually okay, let's not go Prometheus route.
Let's go Romulus route. The human scientists, for the way
in Utani were able to use the black goo that
they derived from Big Chap, the alien from the first
Alien movie, and we're able to turn that black goo
and create more face huggers out of that experimentation.
Speaker 3: So you have that route. But the way I see
it is, no, you.
Speaker 4: Need a queen. For the most part. The queen produces
the eggs and so forth.
Speaker 1: But how do you This is a dumb question because
it's all like fakinging out, But how does are you
just born a queen or does one eventually? How does
a queen exist?
Speaker 4: So this is where aliens are very diverse. Now Alien
three introduced the plotline of Royal face Huggers, where these face.
Speaker 3: Huggers like they look different.
Speaker 4: Now the face hugger basically is carrying a queen embryo
and the plant that that's why Ripley had a queen
in her because it was a specialty. So there's there
are queen aliens that are chill like selected that way
to establish new colonies. But then there's also in some
of the games, you can see, okay, some aliens, some
xenomorphs that they go about they're born as a regular
xeno more if they're running around, and then if a
queen for the hive dies, then another one will just
it's just it will turn into a queen.
Speaker 1: This could be the case, right, this could be the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never know.
Speaker 4: So all we know for sure is that aliens are
just they're very self sufficient and even if you have one,
then there you go. I was for a second thinking
man that would be crazy if they kind of pursue
the original Alien route here where there's those deleted scenes
we talked about in the retro where an alien, you
have the egg face snugger comes out of the egg.
Face hugger impregnates a human. Alien comes out of the human. Alien,
captures a human, then turns the human into an egg,
and then that egg produces a face hugger and then
goes on a human so forth. But they didn't do
that concept because that means one alien takes two humans,
which is a whole long process.
Speaker 3: But for a second, Hermit was gonna get that treat.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, just because we didn't see that
Hermit could have been the first human, right, and then
there could have been like the xenomorph could have been
looking for more if they needed two humans to do.
Speaker 4: That's true, that's true, and that's something like even in
Alien Isolation, there's inklings that maybe there's an alien queen
on that ship. But you never I don't think you
ever get the real truth about Okay, where did all
these alien eggs come from? There's a hive that's established,
there's more than one alien, and there's all these eggs.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, where did this come from?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's where people think, oh, maybe it was
turning people into eggs. Kind of a situation here too,
So there's really no definish to answer, Like if you
have one alien, it's it's going to turn itself into
hive basically.
Speaker 1: So my thing is So that's what saving to herman
he gets put there, he's getting strung up everything like that.
The sister finds them. They're in like a shipping container
cart and it's like okay, they're trying to exit the
cart and the xenomorphic horse pops its head in and
it's like, oh, you know, it's looking out and everything
like that. I I didn't understand why the xenomorph didn't.
I know. Probably what you're gonna say is she had
a sword, so that the Xenomorph's gonna like try to avoid her.
I guess, But I don't think I bought the xenomorph
having to jump up on the thing instead just tacking
them upright, Especially when we saw this Xenomorph I tear
through people. I didn't think, like, all, this sword's gonna
make it back down for people if they didn't watch It's. Yeah,
there's like an entrance. Instead of going through the entrance
to attacking the two, it goes up on the crate
entrance attacking from the top. Of course it's stab. We
get the acid blood were talking about last week, but
I didn't buy that the xenomorph would not charge them.
Can't die.
Speaker 3: You know, it was odd, Like I like the scene.
Speaker 4: I thought it was really cool the xenomorph was there,
and it was just kind of like scoping it out
the situation. This is really the first time you really
get to see synthetics and and xenomorphs kind of I
would say, like interacting on this level, this this scale.
Like the only other time we really get to see
like a synthetic and the xenomorphs interact is when Bishop
gets like pierced in Aliens and then you see what's
his pickle in the first one, what's his name?
Speaker 1: Ash?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see Ash basically dissecting the face hugger. But
you never really get to see on this scale, like
the two actually fight with each other. And I often
wonder what kind of senses does the xenomorph have trigger
when it comes to synthetic Like humans and organics are
a very much a different story when it comes to
zenomors from what they can sense and the detect So
in this case, it's It's like, I maybe it couldn't
get a proper read on it. And I'm head cannoning
this at this point because I just don't know. But
I think it didn't like the uncertainty of what this
thing was, and it knew that the human was in
behind Wendy, So it makes sense why I went for
the events. But again I'm head cannoning it. The whole
scene was great and I love it, but it does
not necessarily make a lot of sense, which.
Speaker 1: Is strange because there's two things. I think they're just
trying to This is why I do agree with that.
Sometimes they're just trying to make sure that people get
some action, some thrills. That's why they'll stay. Because there's
the way the scene ends is the brother and the
sister gets separated and then the alien gets taken out,
like they just cut like that. You don't see any
of the action. The next time you see Wendy in
the alien, the aliens heads chopped off. So I feel
like there's two ways. One you just have the xenomorph
charge them, and then you shoot that from the outside
and you just hear sounds and you get the same result.
You could still stab the brother have her hurt and
then the xenomorph dead in that container or literally you
don't have the xenomorph pop up until it gets close
to the elevator door, right, they get out, and then boom,
it ambushes them and then you fight over to there.
Like it just it felt like I think they were
just doing an extra beat ad like, oh, I might
get you. But in the moment, it took me out
because like, why isn't this thing charging, especially it be different.
We haven't seen it, because I would say, Okay, maybe
they see the sword and they're wondering what's gonna happen,
But we've seen this a xenomorph just tear through stuff.
But anyways, that happens the gather container. It hops on
the brother. It almost gets them with that second mouth,
but then the sister, I don't know what she was using,
some sort of hook or something like that. Yeah, right, okay, yeah,
and she just stabs the thing by the second mouth,
pulling it pulls that out, and then yeah, they go
into like an elevator shaft. They fight. She has the
sword cuts its head off, but before that, obviously the
alien did some damage because she's bleeding from the head
and also stab the brother. Stab the brother in a
sense that I thought he was gonna be dead because
I where he got stabbed was not looking good. So
these two get a metavack because obviously the xenomorph is dead,
and that's what I kind of I'm im thin, it
sounds weird, but I'm happy xenomorph is dead. And again,
I think that might make me like the first episodes
better because that makes me go, oh, that's why they
popped up with the xenomorphs so much, because in the
first five minutes of episode three, they're gonna kill this
one off, right, And I do feel like it's gonna
be quite a while before we get another one. I
feel like, is that the only one?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 4: And this is where I got confused though, because I
mean at this time when that one synthetic was with
the eggs and like lifted up the skin of another
Zino and we saw that there were multiple chests that
were burst, right. I know they emphasized like the one
face hugger than that scene, but like, could there possibly
be oh aliens right now running around? But again they
said they searched the site and everything like that, so.
Speaker 1: Maybe, I I guess there's always a chance there could
be one. I'm not gonna say for sure no, because
you're right there is other chest bursters. But at the
same time, it does I guess it depends when we
get that answer. It would feel odd, like six episodes
from now for one just to pop up, right, I
need some information that they captured, because like, what's it
just run around Earth and no one's reporting this, like
and it's not on the ship. It sounds like they
have the ship now, right, So it's this thing of
unless it's hiding somewhere like an event or something like
that that I could see where Okay, maybe they scan
the ship, but something is, you know, there's some area abasement,
something that they didn't think I hid an apartment department.
Then yes, So I don't think it's had the realm possibility,
But I got more of the sense that it's gonna
be the the experiment stuff. That's, like you said, the
sins are gonna bring them down. I agreet that to
a point as well. But then I think the experiment
stuff because and that's why again I appreciate the Zeno
warp popping off the first two because you get that
there and I think whether it's on the ship or
whether it's this experiments. We probably might not see in
a xenomorph because what we're in episode three, so four
or five, six, I could see episode six even seven
like they've been. Ultimately, i'd see another three to four
episodes where we don't see another zone morph, right, we
see maybe variations, but I could see variations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna see the evolution of this thing growing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but also I don't think it's gonna be
where a way where it's gonna be like tearing up
shop or tearing prodect like, I think that's gonna be
saved for the penultimate and then the finale. I don't
think you're gonna get another unless there's like a flashback
or something. I don't think whatever the experiment on, I
guess granted, actually one of those other things they're experimenting
on could break out and that could give us an
action scene, So I bet that happens. But for the
actual uh Zeno morphs, well, I guess the eggs are
still there too, right, so that can always pop off.
And the boy Genius was getting way too close, which
all fine, like just grab what happy?
Speaker 3: That's how close he was getting to the eggs.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Kurkulam was rooting for that probably, but yeah,
so they get metavacked out there. Wendy's you know, having
her issues. They have her kind of sitting there in
like some sort of chairer. There's like a red color
for when she's not working in blue and she wakes up.
I did appreciate we didn't get an am circa is
the guy kind of bitched out, but that's fine. There's
that like third in command with the Neverland kids and
he's talking to the second command. So I'm sorry, I
don't know their characters, but he's saying this like like
I don't get this, Like this is like a ten
million dollar project and you're just gonna send them out there.
And the boy or ten year I think he's a
ten year but then the bee weord was thrown in
there at some point like something billions, and so he'say,
like why you do that? The boy genius comes in,
he stops talking, tells him to grow a spine, but
they don't really have the fight. So I hope that
gets expand on more. It's not just that because that
was a hang up of mine of I get it.
They want to send them out there, but to send
them all out there in this unknown situation felt like
a huge leap. So I did like the show was
questioning that, So I hope that kind of maybe questions
our boy Genius's leadership. But anyway, so they're working on
the both of them. Seems like we talked about with Wendy.
She was okay until the dissection of the face Hugger,
and this was very interesting. This was a great scene
where they have all of the sense like they're taking
him out. They're doing like the all tops you get
the face hugger, Get the face hugger pimmed down. What
do you think of so Oliphant pulls out like a
very small or almost like ma like it looks like
a bug and it's like i'd say, like you know,
maybe three quarter sizes put together and looks like so
the face hugger is almost like a shell for this
thing to kind of control because it looked like it
was moving along, had like a like a nervous and
stuff like that. What do you think is, unless I'm wrong,
is this this is new to the Alien franchise, right,
Like something.
Speaker 2: In the face Hugger something in the face hugger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he took the face hugger apart.
Speaker 3: But then he pulled that that's that's the alien embryo.
Speaker 1: But have we seen that before on screen? No, No,
that's what I mean. Okay, so that that's where. But
so it's always been known there was like another thing
in the face hugger.
Speaker 4: Well, how do you think Why do you think they
would go on your face and impregnant you?
Speaker 1: Well, I just thought that was the There's many species
that like when there are ants or stuff like that,
when they get something pregnant, they just die or like
a bee, right, if it's stings, you just die.
Speaker 4: But that's that's that's the thing though, like the because
you always have to wonder where that xenomorph comes from.
Speaker 3: Right, And so the egg has a black face hugger
and then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the face hugger always is it's the carrier that
has the alien gestage.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I just thought the face hugger
was the bead that populated that. Well again, how would
I know that? Because you I just asked you and
I said, have we ever seen that? They've never shown me.
Speaker 4: That they've They've said it many times even the original alien.
They say it laid something inside him, like that's these words.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it laid something, but that could just be a
that could be something where let's say, the face hugger
the same the same way Taylor, my semen is not
like alive in me, but when I put it in
something else, it becomes alive. That's why I thought the
face hugger the same thing that like, there's not like
a little alien thing like floating around on my balls
like that. This is like a conscious like when they
put when they picked it out, it had like little
legs and it had, like you that skeleton.
Speaker 4: Thing we have not seen before, but we've always known
that the face Hugger impregnates something that that gesting inside.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I was worried about.
Speaker 1: No, I knew that, but I didn't know there was
like a little another which I don't even think Ridley
would have put that in there. I didn't think there
was like a dendom too, there was like another thing
in the face hugger. I just thought it was the
face hugger itself impregnant in the human like the combo
and then boom. You know.
Speaker 4: Well, I always looked at it as like, let's say,
for example, and this is gonna sound kind of gross,
when you watch Alien versus Predder Requiem and the hybrid
pred Alien is.
Speaker 3: Alien basically over top of.
Speaker 4: The pregnant woman impregnating her and even the other women
that you see in the show to in the movie too,
you can.
Speaker 3: See going down the throat.
Speaker 4: They're like they're like egg size, like just going down
to throw multiple ones of them.
Speaker 3: And so those are again like I always I never.
Speaker 1: Had, but I never pictured this little alien. No, I never,
I never knew, but I knew that was happening too.
Speaker 3: I never pictured the lit alien thing.
Speaker 4: But the alien thing makes sense that that's that's always
that's there, like it fits at tracks, like I've never
put more thought into it or questioned it, but this
is the first time. Yeah, you're right, they've cut it
open and they've shown it, and.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. So that happens. And while this is happening,
they show the brother he's getting surgery, so you're thinking, oh, yeah,
they're just give him surgery same in his life. They
take his whole lung out, which is like, you know,
very impressive that they're thinking is lung out they're surgery
repairing it, so you think, Okay, I guess they're gonna
put him back in there. Right. But just like David,
just like wailing Utani, doesn't matter. Probably is the same
where the lung is being repaired and it's sitting in
like a jar of water, a very big jarb it's
still jar of water. Directly from that surgery, Olfont's character
has taken out the little alien thing from the face hugger.
It's walking around with it and he dumps it into
the thing and not unlike David though, I guess that's
the difference between this dude. David was definitely going rogue, right.
David was just having a complex where he's an AI
but he wants to create himself, right, which to me,
I always love that storyline. This is a AI that
has been instructed by the boy Genius. Because the boy
Genius is watching this all go down, he throws the
little alien thing in the water, and then the last
scene of the show is the alien thing climbing into
the lung and then just embedding, kind of like you
would with you know, obviously it's not the same as
a face hugger, but the same idea where it is
now implanted that and now this fucking guy is gonna
get this lung and put back in his body.
Speaker 3: And do you think they're gonna do that?
Speaker 4: I mean, why not just put the face hugger on
it and just watch what happens, because they hooked up
the valves and everything to the lung and have it
breathing in the tank, because it does seem like they'll
have it just grow in the tank.
Speaker 1: I think if you do the face hugger and all
that stuff, in my opinion, I think this is gonna
stay between the boy genius and Oliphant for now. So
I think if you do the face hugger or a
bit more elaborate means, other people might catch on and
might think it's inhumane, because even with the whole thing,
you could argue the whole soul versus body versus AI.
At the end of the day, that guy can say, Hey,
these kids are gonna die, They're gonna pass away. So's
they die or I give them a new body, right
a purpose. And even if you have some questions, you
might go, well, I can understand that. I think there's
a lot of people that might be like, okay, we
repair this guy's lung. But and he's just some random
he's not employee, We don't he's not no contract. We
repaired his lung, but we're gonna put an alien entity
in his body. I think there could be more people
that would go, hey, I'm not cool with this, or hey,
report you to the government, or X, Y and Z. Right,
So that's why I feel like this is a more
low key way to do it, where you just get
embedded in the lung. Plus, I think there's it's it's
more fun that way because even though it's the same
as the face hugger, it's still different, right, because the
face hugger has a thing where it gets on and
it implants itself and then you see the chess burster
and all that stuff. We don't know if what's gonna
work that way this time, right, We don't know if
the hermit's gonna get a chest burster. Because this is
like I think this is almost like a if we're
talking about the face hugger, being like, if we're talking
about you know, productive reproduction, theings, right, someone's face is
the you know, the vagina with the eggs, and the
face hugger is a penis with the semen. This is
like an ins Oh god, I'm fucking out the word.
What is it? When you like, yeah, exactly. So it's
kind of like that where it's not not saying a
natural way, but it's not like, uh, you need some help, right,
you need some medical home. That's completely fine, But I'm
saying that's what this is like in the alien version,
where it's not like a complete just body to body
to birth. This is it being implanted in a lung
and same thing. I don't know, like does the alien
usually go to the lung? I don't like, I don't
know what happens when the face hugger gets in the
body and all this stuff.
Speaker 4: And that's a smart choice where they put the face
hugger going into the lung because every time, especially because
we have you can see where the alien breaks out.
It's usually it's the chest where the lungs are. But
the big thing too in the odd times where we
see like predators in their turn on the nerves Zeno
vision and specifically AVP, you can see that the alien
is always rummaging around right where the lungs are, so
it's it tracks.
Speaker 1: Yeah god, oh no, my my right headphone just like
all I think all the audio has gone from it
because I couldn't hear you at all. Yeah, what the fuck?
Oh that sucks. New headphones coming, but yeah, so I
hope it's not just a chess burster because to me
then that makes it. Like what I've liked about the
show so far is they are trying to do new
things with the with with the world. Right we talked
about the Netherland Kids, this idea of a new you know,
prodigy doing some different stuff, these new creatures. To me,
if it's just they put it in there and Herman
gets his chest brupt burst, it's like, okay, we've we've
seen that they're done that before. I think they should
do different things now. I like, I do think there
is a risk because I don't want this to be
a you know, spoils for Ramlas so Scott like skip
ahead like two minutes or so. I don't want this
to be like a he slowly turns into something. Not
that I'm not a like oppose that because I like
the ending of almost and I like what they did there.
For me, I just worry budgetary wise, if you start
to get this guy looking like a camp like an
alien human hybrid. I just wonder if they got the
budget to make that look good. Like, my biggest fear
is us talking to us on the finale and it's
Hermit who's like mutated into this alien human hybrid and
he's chasing after Wendy, and Hermit just looks like shit.
Like we're like, oh my god, and not like because
I know some people don't like the alien Earth design
or the alien ron most, but I mean, like like
effects wise, and we even talk about last couple weeks,
but there's no log truck, but there's a couple of
effects that didn't look the greatest, right, And that's in
stuff that's been around forever. So if they're trying to
play around with, you know, this idea of him turning
into something, I think the best way, and again maybe
this isn't the newest. I think the best way might
be kind of what they did with Shaw and her
boyfriend or husband right where he got really sick and
then they just executed him. I think they should do
that where something similar, not the exact same same thing.
But then that also pushes Wendy to think something's up
right because she could start investigating and be like, hey,
you know in there in this world, I would think
that him getting stabbed and then like them just repairing it.
It's probably just like a simple procedure, right with all
the sci fi stuff they have. So I think if
he gets really sick or something or muted and he
just dies to execute him, I think that could motivate
her to be like, Okay, something is not right with
this company that I'm I'm with here, So that that's
my prediction of where it's gonna go. I don't think
we're gonna get the Rams type of evolution. I just
think he's gonna be I can't remember what that guy's
I know it's Logan Marshall Green, but in Prometheus, I
think it's something like that where he's gonna progressively just
get like sicker and sicker, and they're gonna study him,
but then eventually it's gonna go Uh, it's gonna go bad.
He's I don't, I don't. I don't think he's making
it to the finale. I don't think unless he's like
in a comato state.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you only have so much plot armor.
Speaker 4: And I mean he's he's been kept alive for a
specific reason, he's exercised a lot of plot armor up
until this point. So I don't think he's gonna I
don't think he's gonna come out on top. I can
tell you that much. So it'll be interesting to see
what exactly his faith is. And I'm curious if you're right,
if it is just they're gonna put that lung back
in him, and just fuck, that's just gross. It's brutal.
That's just so brutal.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you have no idea. Just in his hospital
bed he only opens his.
Speaker 4: Eyes sees them like lasering his spine or a part
of his bone or something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. So yeah, no, we'll see what happens.
But I definitely think that's gonna be one of the
biggest crutches of that. Also what's going on with Wendy.
But the fact they end on the one lung thing,
and yeah, I guess it's just uh, I guess old
one's How do you feel about his synth right now?
It seems like he's just down to do whatever prode
he wants, right, Like that's a big leap to take
to you know, poison something like that. But just seems
like he's yeah, got the file or got that.
Speaker 3: But he's not as cold as David is.
Speaker 4: I think like he's he he's willing to make decisions
and choicesn't act upon them to help preserve Prodigy in
the company and everything along those lines. But at the
same time, he's not devoid of being pissed off when
Prodgy is treating him like shit, right like, hey, why
did you leave Wendy Da Da da da, He's like, oh,
well I left so and so with Wedded, he's like,
there are kids.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to watch it all times.
Speaker 3: Da da da.
Speaker 4: And he's like, we're dealing with an alien invasion right
now that you want us to clean up and collect.
Speaker 3: And he's like, I didn't get you for your excuses,
dada da.
Speaker 4: So he's definitely not devoid of all this this mumble jump,
but it makes me wonder like, at this point in time,
we're dealing.
Speaker 2: With cyborgs, synthetics.
Speaker 4: And now which has been not publicly known, synthetics that
have human consciousness, So he has to be just what
He's not a cyborg because cyborgs are susceptible to the
face huggers and the eggs. I just wish we saw
with Moro, so he must be a synthetic. We haven't
seen him bleed, but we can confirm he's a synthetic
because look at how he's operating and working. He's super
strong and whatnot. So that makes him like David, but
not like David because he's he can think it feel independently,
and he's not just he doesn't feel like Ash does.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: He feels very very different from the way Ash operates
and he's.
Speaker 1: Still though he's not He's not though, as uh separate
though as David is though, right, because Davis definitely his
own stuff.
Speaker 4: And Eve even like Tengu or whatever the guy's name
was in on the ship right with Moro's crew, how
he was a synthetic and he was very weird and
socially awkward and just different and whatnot. So again, this
guy does he doesn't feel like an Oliphant's character doesn't
feel like that.
Speaker 3: So I'm wondering if maybe they managed.
Speaker 4: To successfully put a human consciousness in there, and and
I don't know, there's just there's something extra going on
with him because he's not acting like the other synthetics, right, So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be interesting to see what happens that it'll
be interesting to see two because yeah, like yeah, like
I would say he's not connected with any of the kids,
right Like, I'm not saying he's not. He's not treating
them expendable and he's not treating them like shit. But
he also hasn't born with anybody. He's still very business
Orenton very has to get the job done, and that'll
be interesting to seek. Is he gonna be like that
the whole series always just like by the Prodigy guy's side,
or if he's gonna turn around at all and maybe
have some sort of come to Jesus for the since
I don't know. I really don't know, but uh, yeah,
we'll see. So let's take our next ad break. We'll
be right back, and we're back. So anything more talk
with the lung Wendy olifaunts Nope, I guess we need
to transition a little bit to uh some of the
other sense and whatnot. I really did like that scene.
I know or Kirkland's not a big fan of the
The Boy Genius, but uh I I liked that scene
of I can't remember her name too.
Speaker 2: You were saying it was she wants to be number one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that girl that's you know, let's just say she's
number two. I don't show oh be number your favorite
now He's like, no, but you're in the running. I
did like that scene because I do think that's something
that they should call out, because I know he talked about, like, oh,
we create Wendy, so I have these conversations and have
some challenge we to But so far, what we've seen
from Wendy, even the point were talking about last week
where she was like like hacking into their system or
like looking into like like watching her brother, I would
say already even before this mission, she proved she's not
like she's not in the best interest of Prodigy right
in the sense of sure science wise, but she's not
a diehard. She has her own means because she has
connection on the outside with her brother. We're number two here.
I love that she's trying to pitch what can I
do to be your favorite? And yet I think that's
a very fun storyline. I liked for the most part
the two others. Obviously they made them act like very kitty,
but they are children, and they had that that meeting
with the cyborg and that that's the one storyline. I
think I'm I'm definitely the least invested on so he
and I like that actor. I like the scenes he
had with the other since and I love what's going
on with the whole. He like put like something something
on him to hack into his mind or speak to him.
Not sure what that is, but I like that. I
guess just when he ubbulds all the information, there's a
scene where he's walking back and he calls some Waylon
Natani representative and like, Okay, well you can come home. Nice.
Well I got no home and all the people I
know now is dead, and I take pride in my work,
and I'm gonna because he's saying I can get everything back,
and like, well, you've done enough and they have everything,
just come back. We'll figure something else out. He's like, no,
I'm gonna have to. I hope I get a little
bit more on that, because I not that I didn't
buy it. I just I haven't given a reason to
carry yet of like what Like, I know he has
an inn, but why does he feel so strongly he
has to get there? And I still wish I maybe
we'll get that, we can get flashback.
Speaker 3: Why he feels strong about fulfilling this mission.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because even like whaling TOWNI felt very much like whatever,
just come back. They weren't like really because even when
he says it like well, no you could, you should
probably just come back and say, you know, this is
something I have to do. So I think I wish
we still I hope we get to see some flashbacks
of that the original crew of the show.
Speaker 4: And I hope we get more flashbacks, and I'm sure
we will. But I think in retrospect, it just comes
down to, hey, this guy spent.
Speaker 2: Like what sixty five years in space.
Speaker 4: We spent like he gave up his daughter, He gave
us so much because this is a dream job, a
dream gig, and he just wanted.
Speaker 3: To give it as well.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a dream gig.
Speaker 3: Sounds like a dream gig.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I think I think most people I'm
not gonna say all because there's something that wouldn't but
there's you know, most people in the situation, if they're
spending a lifetime working with something, they're going to you know,
take that risk and you know it's their life's work.
They're going to make that commitment and try and just
follow through with it. And go, you know, in this
case Withmorrow, get it back right to me. It makes sense,
it fits, But I need a little bit more emotional
attachment to feel that from him, because you don't really
have that yet.
Speaker 3: He's just very robotic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I I don't really have that at all.
I'm kind of the opposite where I don't. I guess
I buy it just enough, but I'm not like, oh,
this makes comp lead sense, like it just maybe it's
just on the lines that gave him or the direction mare.
I could have felt like he was more invested in
this situation, but I didn't really get that there. But yeah,
and then now he has this device. I was just
talking about where he implanted in one of the Neverland
Kids heads and just before he's about to go to bed,
he's like, oh, you figure out that quote? And this
poor kid's like looking around like hello, like, yeah, you
figure out? We got some good riddles here. And he
did say on the phone call that he has an inn.
And I guess this kid is gonna be his n
right because he's like, oh, we all need friends and
all this sort of stuff, And that's gonna be interesting
because I feel like he's gonna give up where that
base is, excuse me, or like a mission they're going on.
He's definitely the He's gonna be one of the downfalls
of Prodigy, this poor kid. Just I'm sure the Prodigy
or other people are gonna yell at him and then
he's gonna be all sad. So he's getting your friend
to talk to. He's gonna talk to this guy who's
just fucking using him. He's starting to do research on
the Prodigy boy there. So yeah, what do you think
about the you spoke a little bit too, but what
do you think about some of the cybork stuff of
him having the audio and his like, I guess the
end game is probably that, right, just to find some
location that he can you know, disperse to and cause
some havoc and get his stuff back, which it feels
honestly have a ship. I don't know. I think that's
hard cargo to get back. Maybe he does have a
ship I don't know about. But I feel like you
gotta get all the experiments because there wasn't just the
xeno War, which one I just laugh, like, how is
he playing at the xenomorph back?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Like I know he had that little sack thing they
put the xenomorph in, but that it busted out of
that really easy last week, so like, that's not the answer.
So I think that's the other thing too. Just feels
like a little unrealistic to me that he's gonna take
on this whole company and get it all back. But yeah,
what were some of your thoughts on this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, how he gets a face hugger is you know,
morph and all that back to what probably another continent.
I'm not sure exactly where Prodigy is located, but yeah,
Utani is very far away the way in Utani Corpse,
So I don't know how he's gonna pull that off,
but I like it. I think it's it's interesting enough.
And how he just plants that bug on the guy's
neck and he can talk to him and everything like that.
I think there's definitely some fun stuff in there. And
how he knows it's a kid and he's on top
of the fact that they're aliens he needs to retrieve.
I think he's genuinely curious, Like you said, you had parents,
like what are you exactly like.
Speaker 3: Let's you know, let's discuss, as he would say.
Speaker 4: So I'm sure he's probably just as interested in figuring
it out, but knows that Okay, I'm dealing with kids.
I know how to persuade them and have them you know,
gaslighted and all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we'll see. Like I said, that's the
one I'm just kind of least interested in right now.
I don't have I'm not disliking the storyline. Luckily, there's
nothing I'm disliking right now. Yeah, all the sins continue
to be you know, good like you know, pretending to
be kid actors. I love that moment of you know,
they say some about having parents and the cyborg picked
him on the right way and like what is that
and then they go no, no, no, don't say anything. So
an old thought I like that too, and he just
walked the situation he is. I liked that joke with like,
oh are these your kids or are these are you
the parent? He's like, no, I'm not, and they like
like they hide behind Oliphant and Old Font's just kind
of like taking a back because he knows they're kids.
But they're just like, like, you're not helping me at
all here with this situation. But yeah, I'm trying to
let me look at my notes here if there's anything else,
Is anything else we've touched upon that you want to
break down before we wrap it up here Native, I'm
just trying to think. We got the yeah boy progy,
he was fighting with those two we talked about. Nothing's
happening there. We got the lung, we got the one
trying to be number two, we got the kids, we
got the surgeries. Yeah no, I think we covered it all.
So yeah, no, that'll be it for a guest tonight,
and then we'll be back next week and see what's
going on with Alien Earth episode four. Probably get some
Kirklands thoughts and God, see what's happening in this poor
guy's long because you know, I don't think next week
it'll be a mess. I'll what do you think? Do
you think it'll be like a gradual build between a
couple episodes, or do you think it would be like
right away he would just get sick and bad stuff
that happened.
Speaker 3: I can see next up.
Speaker 4: Well, if they put the lung back into him, it's
gonna be a bit of a slow burn, you know,
leading into that. But if they don't put the lung
into him, I can see the next episode starting off
with this.
Speaker 3: You know, just like bursting out of the lung.
Speaker 1: Oh, well then he's not coming back.
Speaker 2: Then they could put a synthetic lung in there.
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I guess either way, the brother's not dying. I'll say
they got a couple more things to do with him,
I think with the sister and stuph more conversations. So
but yeah, there you go. We'll be back next week
for alien Or episode four, and we'll be back, obviously
with lots of the stuff this week, so I quest
Dexter peace Maker episode one, and it won't be boring.