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<v Speaker 1>Seven oh six, a fifty five KRCD talk station. But

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's having a happy Friday. I think this will put

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<v Speaker 1>a smile on your face. If you're not having a

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<v Speaker 1>happy Friday. Welcome to the fifty five krc Morning Show

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<v Speaker 1>from an organization called Mustang Journey. Troy Day, Troy, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. It's great to have you on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate what you're doing because I am a huge

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<v Speaker 1>supporter of, of course, the American veteran and first responders. My

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<v Speaker 1>sister was a twenty five year police officer of the

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<v Speaker 1>CINCINNTI Police Department, and I'll tell you I do get

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of stress from a job, and I learned

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<v Speaker 1>from her over the years what they face under pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and the crap that they go through each and every day.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course the American veteran, most notably combat veterans,

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<v Speaker 1>deal with post traumatic stress and day to day hardships.

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<v Speaker 1>Are just being in the military obviously a very stressful reality.

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<v Speaker 1>You obviously recognize that we're going to talk about your

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<v Speaker 1>Trust and Valor program, but first let my listeners know

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<v Speaker 1>about Mustang Journey. The organization how you got started what

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<v Speaker 1>you do. It's online at Mustang Journey dot org. It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I appreciate that, and thank you to your

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<v Speaker 3>family members for their service. Mustang Journey is a five

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<v Speaker 3>on one C three nonprofit organization. We operate solely on

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<v Speaker 3>donations and volunteers.

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<v Speaker 2>And what we do is.

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<v Speaker 3>We adopt, tame, gentle and rehome wild mustangs. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in this as you even mentioned what a great way

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<v Speaker 3>to help and support two iconic American symbols of freedom,

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<v Speaker 3>the wild mustang and the American soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>So I understand you work with the Bureau of Land Management.

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<v Speaker 1>Now these are as you mentioned, wild mustangs, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're they're rounded up and collected. Is is

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<v Speaker 1>there are they? Do they represent a problem out in

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<v Speaker 1>the wild? Is that the reason that they're collected and

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<v Speaker 1>rounded up by the Bureau of Land Management?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What has happened is the free ranging ranchers has gone

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<v Speaker 3>to the government and ask them to remove the mustangs.

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<v Speaker 3>They actually the ranchers actually round them up with helicopters.

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<v Speaker 3>They claim that the wild mustangs are taking all the

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<v Speaker 3>resources in the foliage and water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, huh, Well, I suppose you probably questioned that reality

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<v Speaker 1>or that that assertion, but nonetheless, because of those claims,

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<v Speaker 1>they are rounded up, and I imagine that's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be quite stressful for the wild mustangs just in and

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<v Speaker 1>of itself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is very stressful. And that's you know, we've noticed,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a parallel you know, examining the parallels between

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<v Speaker 3>the life of a wild mustang from the round ups

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<v Speaker 3>separated from their families and then also to the to

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<v Speaker 3>the first responders and also veterans. You know, there's uh,

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<v Speaker 3>there's that that time to decompress that they need the

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<v Speaker 3>stress from around up, the stress from as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>even the combat, the traumatic experiences possibly even loss uh

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<v Speaker 3>you know in combat. Yeah, so the highlights you know,

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<v Speaker 3>shared a characteristic extent or you know, I guess you

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<v Speaker 3>could say themes of camaraderie, you know, forging that trust

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<v Speaker 3>between the veterans, the first responders and that wild mustang

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<v Speaker 3>trust is going to be one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the biggest ones understood.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned gentling the mustang and and and getting

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<v Speaker 1>into uh an animal that's that's rideable. So you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking to it, I guess the old word for

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<v Speaker 1>it is breaking a horse. I mean, I think about

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<v Speaker 1>the old Western days and I'm a gonna break a horse.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a wild horse, and you learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>calm it down, put a saddle on it, and make

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<v Speaker 1>it into something that's actually rideable.

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<v Speaker 3>Right exactly. And that's where we use the term gentle.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no heartbreaking of these horses. They've already been

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<v Speaker 3>through enough stress trauma. So we use these We use

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<v Speaker 3>the type of training where you gentle them and it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's there's no there's no heartbreaking of.

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<v Speaker 1>The horses, understood, and I appreciate your having a concern

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<v Speaker 1>for the horse and and appropriate treatment. That's what it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about. And so and that's where the veterans and

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<v Speaker 1>first responders come in. You train them how to gentle

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<v Speaker 1>the horses, and then you ultimately place them. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a forever home for the for the mustang after

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<v Speaker 1>you go through this process.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So we actually we have different programs for the veterans

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<v Speaker 3>and first responders have to say one of those individuals,

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<v Speaker 3>they just want to learn to how to take care

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<v Speaker 3>of the horse. That's we have something what we call

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<v Speaker 3>a care team. That's where you just we teach them

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<v Speaker 3>how to feed, water and muck and just spend some

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<v Speaker 3>time with the horse. And that's really when some of

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<v Speaker 3>the trust is built. Just take taking care of them.

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<v Speaker 3>We also have a handling program where you can learn.

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<v Speaker 2>To halt or lead load a horse if.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to just kind of take it knowledge and

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<v Speaker 3>experience A little step further. You mentioned the trust and

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<v Speaker 3>valor that's learned how to tame a wild mustang from

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<v Speaker 3>what we call untouchable to someone where you can halt

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<v Speaker 3>or lead and load in a trailer. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>are moving on to hopefully in a very near future,

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<v Speaker 3>a riding program in these individuals, veterans and first responders

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<v Speaker 3>help us get them to their forever homes.

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<v Speaker 1>So the concept is this is this is very therapeutic

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<v Speaker 1>for perhaps maybe a veteran who's struggling with post traumatic stress.

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<v Speaker 1>You're giving them something that's really beneficial. It's distracting for

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<v Speaker 1>them in the sense their mind isn't on other more

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<v Speaker 1>traumatic things. They're helping this horse get, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>become I guess is I hate to use the word usable,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know it's it's a wild animal, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>turning it into something that someone might want to adopt.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess all this is really beneficial to the

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<v Speaker 1>psychology of the veteran or first responder in that regard.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, sir, you know there's a lot of there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of life skills that you can learn just by

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<v Speaker 3>just by spending time and and and here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's not us, It's it's it's the horses. I

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of, you know, just kind of missed myself

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<v Speaker 3>as a as one beggar showing another beggar where to

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<v Speaker 3>get the information from. And you know, those life skills,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there's it's not a a canned answer. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what that individual is going to receive from

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<v Speaker 3>spending time with the Mustangs, but some of those, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>transitioning life skills could be you know, confidence, confidence back

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<v Speaker 3>into the civilian world, if you will. Sure, patience is

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<v Speaker 3>another one. Your presence being in the moment is a

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<v Speaker 3>big one that one has. That one has been a

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<v Speaker 3>big one for me spending time with the Mustangs. And

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<v Speaker 3>then you kind of mentioned it there too, is just

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<v Speaker 3>a peace of mind, right, even if it's for just

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<v Speaker 3>a little while, it's just a peace of mind so

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<v Speaker 3>you can forget about your your daily challenges just for

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<v Speaker 3>a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean everybody has something along those lines. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>people who can't go to sleep at night, they think

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<v Speaker 1>about all the crap they did during the day, all

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<v Speaker 1>the things they need to do tomorrow. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>worst possible time to think about those things because you're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to get a good night's sleep so you can

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<v Speaker 1>then cope and deal with it the next day. So

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<v Speaker 1>in this regard, when you're working with the Mustang, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a task at hand, you have to have presence,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to pay attention to what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you. You have this beautiful, beautiful horse Mustang

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<v Speaker 1>in front of you that's obviously, you know, enjoyable to

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<v Speaker 1>be with. It's a distraction from the day to day

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<v Speaker 1>cares of life. I can see the brilliance of this

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<v Speaker 1>just in thinking about along those lines, Yes, sir, wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think that's you know again, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not sure what the individual is going to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of it, but that's you know again, just being

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<v Speaker 3>able to focus, you know, focus and then use those

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<v Speaker 3>to move on. You know, you hold on to that

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<v Speaker 3>for a little while to get you through your next

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<v Speaker 3>day until until you can come back and spend more

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<v Speaker 1>So this is does the program, this Trust Environur program?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it for a specific period of time? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it sort of like a show up when you

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<v Speaker 1>need a kind of thing. How does it work? How

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<v Speaker 1>does it operate?

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<v Speaker 3>We can Yeah, anyone could reach out to us and

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<v Speaker 3>we can fit it into their schedule. We do have

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<v Speaker 3>some type of a schedule right now. However, we do

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<v Speaker 3>have folks coming that you know can't make it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for instance, on a Sunday. Maybe they can't make it

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<v Speaker 3>on a Sunday, so we will open up other times

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<v Speaker 3>for them to come in and spend time with them,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, and then just go and then go through

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<v Speaker 3>the programs or you know, even at their even at

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<v Speaker 2>The horses.

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<v Speaker 3>We've had several folks come through that have had, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>grew up of horses. They possibly even maybe trained horses

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<v Speaker 3>before going into the military, and or they have little

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<v Speaker 3>little to know knowledge at all about horses, and we

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<v Speaker 3>just start them with the horses where their knowledge is at.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, how long does it take from when you get

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<v Speaker 1>one of these wild mustangs from the Bureau of land management.

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<v Speaker 1>How long does it mean, I guess normally take I

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<v Speaker 1>suppose different mustangs very like personalities. There one can take

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<v Speaker 1>a longer time to train, others may adopt and accept

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<v Speaker 1>the training earlier. But generally speaking, start to finish from

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<v Speaker 1>when you get the mustang initially till it's properly gentle

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<v Speaker 1>and manageable. What's the like of time?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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<v Speaker 3>You you made a great point. They're just like humans.

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<v Speaker 3>We all have our we all have our personal bubble

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<v Speaker 3>to begin with. That's when it starts. We can start

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<v Speaker 3>building that trust and we like to. Uh, twelve months

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<v Speaker 3>is what we like to shoot for. Can some get

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<v Speaker 3>uh you know, rehome prior to that, yes, do some

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<v Speaker 3>take a little bit longer, yes, but that's we We

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<v Speaker 3>figure that twelve month period is a good time, uh

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<v Speaker 3>to get them, to get them decompressed, to get them

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<v Speaker 3>through the training, and then uh typically put them. We

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<v Speaker 3>have X amount of hours we want to put them

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<v Speaker 3>under saddle before before.

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<v Speaker 2>We do rehome them. That's our goal.

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<v Speaker 3>However, there have been some folks that have adopted the

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<v Speaker 3>horses at the time and they wanted to finish the

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<v Speaker 3>horses off themselves. Oh, and that they can they can

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<v Speaker 3>do that as well, And that's an agreement between the

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<v Speaker 3>individual who's adopting us on the board at Mustang Journey

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<v Speaker 3>determine the best if that's going to be the best

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<v Speaker 3>scenario for the horse, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, case by case basis, This makes perfect sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>know some people who are truly horse people, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can see them perhaps wanting to pursue that path, but

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<v Speaker 1>they've owned horses for decades and they know everything there

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<v Speaker 1>is to know about them. Now is there is it

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to rehome these horses? Is there a waiting list

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<v Speaker 1>or do you have to reach out and sort of

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<v Speaker 1>market them? How does that work for Troy?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 3>The Mustang network, if I could say, it's it's across

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<v Speaker 3>the United States and there's several thousands horses out there,

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<v Speaker 3>several thousands of people that are involved with Mustangs. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's a very intimate community. And there's a story about

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<v Speaker 3>a horse spirit that we had a very photogenic horse

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<v Speaker 3>in the herd management area in Honaky and Utah. She's

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<v Speaker 3>a well done documented horrors by professional photographers. She's been

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<v Speaker 3>owns a Mustang. She owns her herd mate in sunny

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<v Speaker 3>San Diego. So it just goes to show you it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's intimate, but yet it's a tight knit.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh network.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>And once when you know, once you put it out there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know folks, folks will find them, Folks will find

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Well, you know, my wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>have just that way of example. It seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat of a parallel. We're Doberman lovers and there are

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<v Speaker 1>there's a network of Doberman rescues, just like there are

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<v Speaker 1>there's a network of pitbull rescues or any other breed,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are interconnected. So if you know there's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to be any it doesn't there's not

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<v Speaker 1>one necessarily in the area, you could reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>the one and can tell they reach out with one

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<v Speaker 1>in Indiana. You know, That's that's how that works.

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<v Speaker 2>Wet.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand how that connection works. So there is a

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<v Speaker 1>Mustang community out there. So I'm glad to know that

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<v Speaker 1>because I, yeah, my wife would love to own a horse,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just you know, like, honey, there's no way.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just that it seems to me it would

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<v Speaker 1>be an uphill challenge to place these Mustangs, but apparently

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<v Speaker 1>it's not now moving aside from the uh the Valor program, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trust and Valor program. Do you take volunteers? But

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're located in Goshen, So my listeners know that,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh do you do you? Are you looking for volunteers?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you want donations, and so I'm encourage my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners if you want to donate to this wonderful cause,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Mustang Journey dot org. There's a little donate button.

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<v Speaker 1>But how about just folks who would like to spend

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, absolutely, we're always looking for volunteers, you know, to

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<v Speaker 3>support Mustang Journey and h typically the draw to Mustange

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<v Speaker 3>Journey is the care team that I mentioned, Folks that

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<v Speaker 3>just want to kind of come out and just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>take care of them, you know, feed water, mock, pick

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<v Speaker 3>up a miller and you know, and just spend time

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<v Speaker 3>with them. But they can certainly reach out to us

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<v Speaker 3>and there's obviously some some paperwork that they would need

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<v Speaker 3>to fill out, and yeah, just and and get started.

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<v Speaker 3>You have two or three orientations, depending on the level

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<v Speaker 3>of horse knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when you feel comfortable being the in the

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<v Speaker 3>pen and taking care of them, then we'll just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of not turn you loose, but go through the orientation

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<v Speaker 3>and then you can start taking care of them.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a we have a community. We have a

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<v Speaker 2>we have a community.

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<v Speaker 3>Calendar that you can you can put your name on

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<v Speaker 3>a certain time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tree and uh, you can put your name on the

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<v Speaker 3>on the calendar when you want to. If you once

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<v Speaker 3>a week, once a month, twice a week, it's up

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<v Speaker 1>That's wonderful that I have a feeling you may get

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<v Speaker 1>some calls on this or some some outreach. And I

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<v Speaker 1>see on your your website you got how much a

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<v Speaker 1>bail of hay is, how much the grain is, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know veterinary visit and all that. There's donation levels.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be a sponsor of a horse for a

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<v Speaker 1>full year at a certain level, so there's a multitude

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<v Speaker 1>of ways to help out. Or you can just show

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<v Speaker 1>up and uh and and help them clean the stalls

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<v Speaker 1>out and work with some some beautiful mustangs and they

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<v Speaker 1>are absolutely beautiful beasts. Troy Day, thanks for the time

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<v Speaker 1>you spend with my listeners today and explaining Mustang Journey

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<v Speaker 1>to my listening audience. I think it's a wonderful thing

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing. And keep up the great work and uh

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we'll have you back on the show down the

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<v Speaker 1>road again sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely what I appreciate. Thank you for having me certainly

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it, and like.

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<v Speaker 3>To invite you and your wife out anybody come on

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<v Speaker 3>out and meet the mustang.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, get the horse part out of her system for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. She grew up on a farm and

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<v Speaker 1>had a horse when she was young, so that's where

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from. And thanks again for the work.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the way you can, you know, have somebody else

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<v Speaker 3>take care of the horses. You can just come out

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<v Speaker 3>of time with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that idea, man, I like that idea. And

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<v Speaker 1>thanks again for helping the American veteran and first responder

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Day. It's been a real pleasure. Mustang Journey dot

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<v Speaker 1>Org is where you find the organization and help them

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<v Speaker 1>out in some way. Troy, take care of yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the great work. It's seven twenty two at

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five KR see the talk station bottom of the ar.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna hear from Daniel Davis with a deep dive

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<v Speaker 1>to stick around for that, But first a word for

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