1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:05,639 Speaker 1: What's going on. 2 00:00:05,759 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this podcast. It 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,080 is heard live every day from noon to three on 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,839 WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you want exclusive content 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,160 like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, my daily 6 00:00:17,199 --> 00:00:19,480 show prep with all the links, become a patron, go 7 00:00:19,559 --> 00:00:23,399 to thepeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the subscribe button, 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,320 get every episode for free, write to your smartphone or tablet, 9 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:30,199 and again, thank you so much for your support. Alrighty, 10 00:00:30,239 --> 00:00:32,679 so it's been about a week I think, maybe a 11 00:00:32,719 --> 00:00:36,560 little bit longer since we talked about Tijuana. Not the city, 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:43,960 not the shows. No, no, about Tiajuana Brown, the indicted 13 00:00:44,039 --> 00:00:49,439 Charlotte City council member, Tijajuanna Brown. She's made news again. 14 00:00:50,759 --> 00:00:53,960 Not for the indictment. It's nothing new on the indictment. 15 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:55,960 She is still indicted, don't get me wrong. She is 16 00:00:56,039 --> 00:01:00,439 still under federal indictment for fraud along with her two 17 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:01,640 adult daughters. 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,079 Speaker 1: But that's not what she has made news for now. 19 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,359 Speaker 2: Now she has made news because she is not going 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,079 to run for reelection. Psych she is going to run 21 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:20,120 for reelection. Hah, That's all part of her plan. 22 00:01:20,239 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: You see. 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,879 Speaker 2: She's on a mole hunt. Yeah, she's looking for a leaker. 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:35,680 And so she drafted an entire statement about how she 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,959 was not going to run for reelection after telling everybody 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:43,319 that she was going to run for reelection. She said 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,000 it at her press conference, which was an absolute train wreck. 28 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,000 She said it after her court appearance in federal court 29 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:51,159 where she was you know, had to go in because 30 00:01:51,159 --> 00:01:55,560 she got indicted. Right, So on her way out, she's 31 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:57,280 walking to the car and she's like, I'm not going 32 00:01:57,359 --> 00:01:59,599 to resign. I'm going to run for reelection. Almost I 33 00:01:59,599 --> 00:02:02,719 got more of votes or whatever. I carried every precinct. 34 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,239 It's a Democrat stronghold. Of course you're going to carry 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:11,000 every precinct. So she drafts this letter, this press release, 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:17,639 I should say, it's a press release, Hello family, colleagues, constituents, 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,919 and okay, you've got to add some commas, and I 38 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,560 know you know how to do that, because you put 39 00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:27,080 a comma after hello and after family. But then she 40 00:02:27,199 --> 00:02:33,120 just abandons the comma for colleagues, constituents, and faithful supporters 41 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:38,759 of District three. It is with a humble and heavy 42 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:42,840 heart that I share this message with you today on Thursday, 43 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:47,960 May twenty first, my life changed forever. After much prayer, reflection, 44 00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:51,400 and deep conversations with my family, I have made the 45 00:02:51,439 --> 00:02:55,960 difficult decision not to seek reelection. Psych she's totally not 46 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,400 seeking reelection. 47 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:02,479 Speaker 1: She doesn't say that right, but the statement like. 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,759 Speaker 2: This is a very lengthy statement. You don't draft this 49 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:14,639 statement unless you have it drafted in order to send out, 50 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:21,360 in order to say you're not running for reelection, she says. 51 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,680 The past three weeks have been overwhelmingly painful for me, 52 00:03:25,159 --> 00:03:28,039 for my family, and for those who love and support me. 53 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,680 The media, smear campaigns, the hate, the silence of some 54 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,000 I once called friends. Would that be your colleagues on 55 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,240 city council that you said totally supported you, but so 56 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:39,599 far nobody has come out and support of you. 57 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: Would that be the people you're talking about. I don't know. 58 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: All of it has been a storm, she says, But 59 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:52,000 through it all, we stood, we survived, we fought. Yeah, 60 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:55,639 I don't think the storm is over. I kind of 61 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,599 feel like it's just beginning for you, Like you just 62 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,840 did a first appearance in federal court. Like you haven't 63 00:04:03,879 --> 00:04:07,520 even gone you haven't even gone to trial. You're not 64 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,759 even you're not even close to that yet like you're 65 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,199 not through this storm. So I don't know why you're 66 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,120 saying that, like we stood, we survived. I mean, I 67 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,639 guess maybe if you want to say, all right, I 68 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,759 survived the first battle in this war, and so now 69 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,399 you live to fight another day. Okay, Fine. She goes 70 00:04:27,399 --> 00:04:29,240 on to say, if there's one thing you know about 71 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,639 the woman you elected, it's this. I am a truth teller, 72 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,920 except on federal forms when I'm asking for money, and 73 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,160 a fierce defender of justice, except if it's coming at me. 74 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,920 I have never backed down from a fight rooted in 75 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:51,160 love and truth. Always the hero or the victim, never 76 00:04:51,199 --> 00:04:55,199 the villain. Right, is this a fight rooted in love? 77 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:03,879 You lied allegedly on applications to get federal money, federal 78 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:10,759 COVID dollars. You submitted allegedly as part of your application 79 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:17,199 a fake IRS form, a scheduled see form, and so 80 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:23,240 did your daughters same form. So I'm not sure this 81 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,560 is a fight rooted in love. You know, I kind 82 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,800 of feel like I'm playing left wing mad libs where 83 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,160 you just you know, got a whole bunch of blanks, 84 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,240 and you know, give me a noun, give me this, 85 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,000 give me that, and the left. He just throws in 86 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:45,839 all of the words like the work, you know, love, struggle, whatever. 87 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,759 But this fight, she says, is rooted in love and truth. 88 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,759 She says, I was born into struggle and I have 89 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:57,079 risen through it again and again got it. Look, hey, 90 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,319 it got her to where she is now, right, This 91 00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:03,759 this this personal origin story of how you know, she 92 00:06:04,319 --> 00:06:08,439 had a very difficult upbringing and she got. 93 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: She got hooked up with the. 94 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: Wrong guy and was involved in all of this fraudulent activity, 95 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:20,399 got arrested and sentenced to prison, and then had her 96 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:23,079 first or had eight child. She was pregnant at the 97 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:25,240 time when she went to prison, so had the child 98 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,000 in prison. Like, but now she's you know, out of prison, 99 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,839 and I've turned my life around. And that was her 100 00:06:29,879 --> 00:06:34,399 origin story. That was her compelling narrative, and that propelled 101 00:06:34,399 --> 00:06:37,680 her to the city council despite a lack of any 102 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,360 relevant experience. That's what got her elected was look at me, 103 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,439 I went to prison for fraud and then lo and behold. 104 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:48,199 A couple of years later, we find out she's accused 105 00:06:48,199 --> 00:06:51,480 of more fraud. If only there was a sign, right, 106 00:06:51,959 --> 00:06:55,160 if only, she says, it's easy for people to pass 107 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,360 judgment when they don't understand how the criminal legal system works. 108 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,639 That's exactly why I've chosen to live my life as 109 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:05,240 an open book, and why I've just well, you really 110 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,560 don't have a choice. You really don't because everything is 111 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,439 public records. You don't have a choice but to live 112 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,959 with this story. You can't deny it because there are 113 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,480 public records, right, so you have to lean into it 114 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,680 at any rate, She says, why I've dedicated myself to 115 00:07:24,759 --> 00:07:28,720 fighting against a system that was never designed for us. 116 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:29,519 Speaker 1: Who's us? 117 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:34,439 Speaker 2: Uh? Race card in coming everybody? Yeah, systemically racist? Like 118 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,800 she didn't do the things that she did. That that's 119 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,000 what I'm to believe that she was convicted for that. 120 00:07:41,079 --> 00:07:44,000 She wasn't stealing people's identity and credit cards or whatever 121 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,959 all those years ago, committing all of that fraud. She's 122 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:52,240 the victim and the hero. As of now, she says, 123 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:58,560 two individuals, mister Montravious King and miss Joy Mayo are 124 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,000 seeking that. Well, you know who I'm back in that race, 125 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,600 Mayo obviously. I mean, come on, I am a fan 126 00:08:05,639 --> 00:08:08,879 of Mayo. I can't I cannot deny that. So these 127 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,759 are the two announced candidates, She says, I want to 128 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,279 be clear. 129 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Ugh, there's that crutch again. Then may be clear. 130 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: I will not be endorsing anyone in this race. I 131 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,920 will stay in the seat that you put me in 132 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,519 until my term ends in December twenty twenty five. Many 133 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,480 of you have sent cards, flowers, messages, and made personal 134 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,319 visits encouraging me to run again. Please know this decision 135 00:08:31,399 --> 00:08:34,080 was not made lightly. I carry your love with me 136 00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:38,240 as I take the next steps through jury selection. I 137 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:42,600 look forward to what the future holds. I will remain present, active, 138 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:46,519 and deeply rooted in the community that raised and supported me. 139 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,840 I am committed to continuing to serve, to heal, and 140 00:08:49,879 --> 00:08:52,639 to walk through this legal battle with my head held 141 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,399 high and my faith unwavering. All my life I've had 142 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:00,399 to fight, and when we fight, we win. It's a 143 00:09:00,399 --> 00:09:03,399 total ripoff of Kamala Harris until the next chapter. Thank 144 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,080 you from the bottom of my heart with love and patience. Councilwoman, doctor, 145 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:08,000 she's a doctor? 146 00:09:08,399 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: When did she get. 147 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, what kind of doctor? Is this one 148 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,840 of like those? I guess you a medical doctor? I 149 00:09:17,879 --> 00:09:21,279 don't think so. Is she one of the like like 150 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,320 a like a doctor? Jill doctor? I wasn't aware of that. 151 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,840 Maybe she did get a PhD somewhere or is this 152 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:32,240 one of those honorifics, the kind that doctor vill Ma 153 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:38,440 Leek was awarded without actually doing anything to get said honorific. 154 00:09:38,879 --> 00:09:41,240 That was a big scandal about twenty years ago. Vilmalik, 155 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,559 County Commissioner, when she was on the school board, was 156 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,519 always referred to as doctor Vilma Leik, not a doctor 157 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:52,480 in any way, not a medical doctor, not a PhD doctor, nothing. 158 00:09:53,519 --> 00:09:56,080 It was an yeah, she like went to some like 159 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,080 I don't know, strip mall kind of storefront thing or something, 160 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,480 and they gave her some honorific and she called herself 161 00:10:02,519 --> 00:10:06,080 doctor and CMS called her doctor Leak for years for 162 00:10:06,279 --> 00:10:09,480 years until we were like, hey, well what's her doctorate in? 163 00:10:10,759 --> 00:10:13,320 And nobody could answer it. And then all of a 164 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,200 sudden it became this huge scandal. CMS scrubbed its website 165 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,360 and I'll never forget doctor Wilhelmina Rembert, and she has 166 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,320 a doctorate. She was the school board chair maybe I 167 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,759 think at the time she became chair, but I don't 168 00:10:27,759 --> 00:10:28,840 know if she was chair at that. She made an 169 00:10:28,919 --> 00:10:32,399 vice chair at that time. And doctor Rembert said, it's 170 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,000 not a big deal. She's not offended by it. She 171 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:38,519 you know, has a doctorate and Vilma didn't. But she 172 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,399 didn't mind that Vilma was called doctor because it's a 173 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,720 term of endearment in the black community. 174 00:10:44,799 --> 00:10:48,919 Speaker 1: She said, So that's is that? What this is? 175 00:10:49,159 --> 00:10:53,279 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I'm genuinely curious. What did she 176 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,960 do to earn a title of doctor? Tiyojana Brown? All right, 177 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,840 so there's the statement. But psych it's a lie, a fraud, 178 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:10,399 you might say, but it's serving a larger purpose like 179 00:11:10,519 --> 00:11:13,120 increasing her bank account. No, I'm kidding, but it serves 180 00:11:13,159 --> 00:11:17,200 a larger purpose. What's the larger purpose, glad you asked? 181 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:19,600 All right, if you're listening to this show, you know 182 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,639 I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, 183 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,759 and I know you do too, And you've probably heard 184 00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:26,480 me say get your news from multiple sources. 185 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: Why. 186 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which is 187 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,480 why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's an 188 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:36,919 app and it's a website and it combines news from 189 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,120 around the world in one place, so you can compare 190 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,279 coverage and verify information. 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I 201 00:12:11,799 --> 00:12:15,120 use the Vantage plan to get unlimited access to every feature. 202 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,080 Your subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it 203 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,279 also supports ground News as they make the media landscape 204 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:26,679 more transparent. She so, she has this press release drafted, 205 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,559 sounds like she wrote it herself, Does it not? 206 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: Does to me? 207 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: Very lengthy press release about how she will serve out 208 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,600 the remainder of her term. But she's not going to 209 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,919 run for reelection again, not going to make any endorsements, 210 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,799 and so obviously then news media starts calling up, like 211 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,320 you're not running for reelection, can you, you know, do 212 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:54,200 an interview? She says, though, that a former campaign staffer 213 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,879 linked that press release and that this was done intentionally 214 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:06,960 buy Tiyawana Brown in order to smoke out a rat Yeah, 215 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,440 she's on a rat hunt, uh huh, or mole hunt 216 00:13:11,799 --> 00:13:17,159 or a leaker hunt. Right, She's she's seeking the leaking, 217 00:13:17,799 --> 00:13:21,600 much like the City of Charlotte is. I don't know 218 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,000 why are they doing that? They said they were gonna 219 00:13:23,039 --> 00:13:26,240 do that. City of Charlotte very interested to find who's 220 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,840 been leaking information out of their closed sessions when they've 221 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:31,279 been paying out a bunch of money to the police chief. Right, 222 00:13:32,279 --> 00:13:35,000 how dare you inform the public about this three hundred 223 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,240 five thousand dollars payoff to the chief? So they're they're 224 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:46,600 on their own, uh leaker seeking mission. So she decided 225 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,039 to do one herself. So she wrote up a fake 226 00:13:50,159 --> 00:13:53,399 press release and then she handed it off or I 227 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:59,080 guess emailed it to one of her campaign staffers who 228 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:02,759 this may be relevant or not, but I think it is. 229 00:14:04,519 --> 00:14:08,159 This campaign staffer has in the past for Tijuana Brown, 230 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:17,279 sent out press releases for Tijuana Brown. So right, So 231 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Tioana Brown gives the press release to one of her 232 00:14:23,559 --> 00:14:27,720 trusted staffers, who then sends it out to the media 233 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,919 as she has done with other things. And Aha, busted, 234 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:39,240 You're a disloyal laker. Brown represents West Charlotte's District three 235 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:42,919 and faces wirefraud charges. She has said that she still 236 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,120 plans to run. The email quote should have never been released. 237 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,639 Brown said she promised to tell the media if she 238 00:14:50,799 --> 00:14:53,919 changes her election plans. How will we know if it's true? Now, 239 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:57,159 I can't trust anything that comes out of her office, 240 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,120 her campaign. Now, why would any media trust anything that 241 00:15:01,159 --> 00:15:04,440 comes from anybody associated with the with the Brown campaign? 242 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,919 Speaker 1: This is so stupid. Why would you do this? Oh? 243 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,600 I had to find out who's leaking what. 244 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,519 Speaker 2: Oh. I have been following the details of this story. 245 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,879 I'd like to think pretty closely. I mean, it's not 246 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,440 my beat. I'm not a reporter covering like every single 247 00:15:21,559 --> 00:15:23,960 aspect of it. But I feel like I have been 248 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,879 aggregating a lot of the coverage over the last few 249 00:15:26,919 --> 00:15:32,279 weeks since she got indicted. Everything that the media has 250 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,200 reported has been public information. I'm not aware of anything 251 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:39,480 in any of the stories. I have the whole stack here. 252 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:42,600 I've got all of the coverage right here, you can look. 253 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,080 I mean, it's like, I don't know a quarter of 254 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,399 an inch thick. It's a bunch of stuff. It's my 255 00:15:46,559 --> 00:15:48,480 file that I started on her when all of this 256 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:51,759 stuff first popped There isn't anything in there that's like 257 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:56,120 a leak. This stuff came off of your Instagram. You 258 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,120 posted the photos of your birthday party with the horse 259 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,519 drawn carriage the throne. The indictment made all of the 260 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:07,480 allegations public. Nobody broke open this story. You did a 261 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:12,159 press conference, so I'm unclear what the leaking is. 262 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:13,679 Speaker 1: But then again, not my beat. 263 00:16:13,759 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: So maybe there is some leaking going on, or she's 264 00:16:16,519 --> 00:16:18,679 just paranoid about it, which I think that might be it. 265 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:23,600 So she writes up this press release, gives it to 266 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:26,559 a person that has worked for her in the past 267 00:16:26,679 --> 00:16:30,679 and still apparently is a supporter, and that person's job 268 00:16:30,799 --> 00:16:34,000 was to give stuff to the media, was to issue 269 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,759 the press releases. And so now Tijuana Brown says it 270 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:40,679 never should have been released. The email was only sent 271 00:16:40,759 --> 00:16:46,799 to Collette Forrest, a former campaign consultant. Quote, she leaked it. 272 00:16:47,279 --> 00:16:50,440 You have my permission to print this. Clearly, I don't 273 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,399 need your permission to print something that you tell me 274 00:16:53,799 --> 00:16:56,639 unless I just so. I don't think she understands. She 275 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:58,399 may claim to know how all of the criminal justice 276 00:16:58,399 --> 00:17:00,480 system works, but I'm actually kind of doubt that now 277 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,000 with her indictment and all. But you do not understand 278 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:05,440 how media works. If you think you can say, oh, 279 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,519 she leaked it, and you have my permission to print that. No, no, no, no, 280 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,519 you said it, I can print it, she says, clearly, 281 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:14,920 I cannot trust her. She's the only person I sent 282 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,200 that email to. 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The indicted Charlotte City council 308 00:18:43,759 --> 00:18:48,400 member who drafted a press release that said she would 309 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,400 not be running for reelection didn't actually mean it. It 310 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,200 was all a lie. She did it to smoke out 311 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,200 a leaker in her ranks, and apparently that link leaker 312 00:18:59,559 --> 00:19:05,799 is Forest. A former campaign consultant, Tiojanna Brown said she 313 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,000 leaked it. You have my permission to print this. Clearly 314 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:11,119 I cannot trust her. She's the only person that I 315 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,519 sent the email to Forest. For her part, told the 316 00:19:15,599 --> 00:19:18,000 Charlotte Observer that she had worked on Brown's campaigns and 317 00:19:18,079 --> 00:19:20,640 that the council member would send her emails in the 318 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,240 past to share with the media. That was her job. 319 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:29,799 So when she got the announcement, she sent it and 320 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:34,000 she said that she was heartbroken and hurt and saddened 321 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,039 that Tijanna Brown was not running. After she saw the 322 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,640 email on Tuesday and mentioned her feelings during a conversation 323 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,200 with a reporter about Monday nights council meeting, I later 324 00:19:45,279 --> 00:19:47,960 on find out that she was testing me, and I'm like, 325 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:54,359 am I a labrat? Forrest said she's perplexed by the situation. 326 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,119 I had no idea that this was a fake. 327 00:19:57,039 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: News email, which is exact exactly what a leaker would say. Mmm. 328 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:09,599 Speaker 2: So, this to me quite clearly illustrates things are not 329 00:20:09,759 --> 00:20:16,680 going well in Tijuana Land, in the Brown land, well 330 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,920 in whatever well that's or Tijuana World, that's what they 331 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,799 call it, Like in the campaign world, you know, like 332 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,359 in Biden world or in Trump world. In so in Brown, 333 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,559 in Brown world or Tijuana I like Tijuana world. It 334 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,160 just flows better. Things are not going well in Tijuana world. 335 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:41,200 It is obviously a siege mentality that has gripped that operation. 336 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,519 However many people are in it, I'm assuming not many. 337 00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:45,880 It is just the Charlotte City Council race, to be sure. 338 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,799 But this is indicative of a paranoia and a siege, 339 00:20:51,839 --> 00:20:56,720 a bunker mentality. She's lashing out. She doesn't know who's 340 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,039 with me, who are my who are my loyal friends? 341 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:02,680 And who's you know, who's Lencoln? Who's telling people's stuff? 342 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:09,759 Everyone's out to get me. This is not healthy, not healthy. 343 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:13,799 This political post might not be the best for her, 344 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,839 and if the I guess federal prosecutor has anything to 345 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:20,920 say about it, she won't be in it for much longer. 346 00:21:21,079 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: Now. 347 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:27,319 Speaker 2: She was indicted on federal wire fraud and wirefraud conspiracy charges. 348 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,359 She and her grown daughters all pleaded not guilty at 349 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,720 their first court appearance. So that's the Charlotte Observer. Over 350 00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:40,839 at WBTV, a piece by David Hodges and Cassidy john Cox, 351 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:44,920 an apparent press release was forwarded to WBTV on Wednesday, 352 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,559 June eleventh that appeared to originate from council Member Brown herself. 353 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,200 According to Brown, the email announcement forwarded out this week 354 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,319 was part of her effort to catch a mo mole 355 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,480 inside her circle of trust. The email saying Brown was 356 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,079 not running for reelection was apparently drafted by Brown and 357 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:09,200 shared with Koleette Forrest, Brown's former campaign volunteer and communications staffer. 358 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:12,680 I sent her the email to see if she would 359 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:21,160 leak it, and she did, Like why would you? I'm 360 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,319 just thinking you could have gotten to this same you know, 361 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,880 conclusion in your mole hunt by doing by sending something different, right, 362 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:34,160 creating some sort of a rumor, or like saying something 363 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,079 to her that so like, you didn't have to draft 364 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:41,160 this very long news release because it's a news release. 365 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,920 It reads like a news release and everything else. If 366 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,799 you're trying to smoke out a leaker, you would want 367 00:22:46,839 --> 00:22:52,319 it to be something that's particularly juicy and untrue. Right, 368 00:22:53,319 --> 00:22:56,599 here's the thing. We don't know if this press release 369 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,680 is untrue because when you wrote it all up, and 370 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,200 maybe you're you had to write it up anyway just 371 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,599 in case you do need to resign. Maybe you wrote 372 00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:08,440 it up at a point where you thought you would resign, 373 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,759 but then you were like, no, no, no, I'm not 374 00:23:09,759 --> 00:23:11,559 going to resign. I'll just you know, like abe Lincoln 375 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:13,319 would write letters to his enemies, and he would just 376 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,759 put him in a drawer and then never send them. 377 00:23:14,759 --> 00:23:15,799 Maybe that's what she was doing. 378 00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 379 00:23:16,599 --> 00:23:20,079 Speaker 2: A student of history, maybe she is. Why not just 380 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,880 come up with something shorter, something salacious, that then you 381 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,839 could easily knock down and then turn people against Koaled 382 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,319 forst because like, honestly, I don't believe the councilwoman. 383 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: Why should I. 384 00:23:36,519 --> 00:23:42,839 Speaker 2: She's been indicted for fraud and she served time for fraud. Like, 385 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,359 it's not that big of a stretch to think that 386 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,319 this might be a fraud, and in fact it is 387 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,279 a fraud. She said it was a fraudulent press release 388 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,160 that she gave to her campaign staffer to smoke out 389 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,119 the leaguer. Why not just say you're no longer part 390 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,960 of a team, which I don't even know if she is, 391 00:24:01,079 --> 00:24:06,440 if call At Forrest is part of the team. The 392 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,519 reelection announcement, which Brown has since said was an attempt 393 00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:13,160 to try to identify a leaker, does not include any 394 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,519 note or message that the document was meant to be 395 00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:18,279 kept secret. Oh well, that's a problem when you draft 396 00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:21,200 a press release and give it to your comms staffer 397 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,720 without saying something like keep this to yourself for now, 398 00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:28,440 like embargo this just just in case. Here it is, 399 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,920 but don't send this out like you didn't even tell 400 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,960 her that. So if you give your comms person a 401 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:40,279 press release, you should expect them to release it. It's 402 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,519 kind of part of the gig. Former campaign staffer Forrest 403 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,319 spoke with the WBTV and confirmed that she did send 404 00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:50,079 the email to local news stations. Forrest said she was 405 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,000 shocked and saidened after receiving the email about Brown from Brown, 406 00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:56,440 and that she viewed it like many other news announcements 407 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,799 that she sends to local reporters. Yeah, I get stuff 408 00:24:59,839 --> 00:25:03,960 from her. Forrest said she has sent several emails on 409 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,079 behalf of Council Member Brown to Charlotte media members to 410 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,799 promote events or speaking engagements for Brown. For Brown, So 411 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,039 the leaker basically is your comms gal who you used 412 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,839 to send press releases just like this one. As far 413 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,359 as as far as mole hunts go, as far as 414 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,279 rat hunts go, this is not the most well constructed 415 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,960 one I've ever heard, But then again, it does seem 416 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:39,160 to be kind of a similar pattern with the you know, 417 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:44,559 the level of complexity and thought paid to the application 418 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,640 for the COVID loans that she got indicted for. It 419 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,039 does seem to be kind of like that, like she's like, Oh, 420 00:25:50,079 --> 00:25:54,759 I'm so smart, I found a way around this. It's like, yeah, no, 421 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,319 that's not actually the best way to go about doing that. 422 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,720 So anyway, I guess Colette Forrest is off the campaign 423 00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:08,279 if she wasn't d already, and Tijuana Brown will continue 424 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:14,519 to run for office unless she does it, which at 425 00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:19,519 this point who knows. All right, So spring is here 426 00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:24,640 a time of renewal and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, anniversaries, 427 00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:27,240 and the special days for mom and dad. Your family's 428 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,240 making memories that are going to last a lifetime. But 429 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,400 let me ask you, are all of those treasured moments 430 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,839 from days gone by? 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So I 451 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,920 know your job is to forward out press releases to 452 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,960 the media. So I'm gonna give you this press release. 453 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,720 I'm not gonna say don't send it to the media. 454 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,000 I'm just gonna give it to you as if I 455 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,759 want you to send it to the media. And then 456 00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:08,400 when you send it to the media, I'm gonna say, Lika, 457 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,400 you're the Liaka. I'm glad we could all play a 458 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,319 role in this paranoid bunker play. 459 00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:20,519 Speaker 1: Let me get to some messages here. 460 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 2: Jay says, when I lived in San Diego, we called 461 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:34,880 Tijuana tj oh Okay, not gonna call her TJ. Dennis 462 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,720 says he's a little concerned over my preference for the 463 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:43,279 candidate Mayo Joy Mayo to replace Tijuana Brown in District three. 464 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,119 But I've said, like, I am a fan of Mayo, 465 00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:50,200 and I think I just like, for consistency's sake, I 466 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,680 would need to I would need to back any candidate 467 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,920 really named Mayo. When it comes to Mayo, I hope 468 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,240 you catch up on the fact that she's a community 469 00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:01,680 activist and what she can cut the mustard as a 470 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:04,559 council woman. I just want to spread my concerns. There 471 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:11,960 no nicely done holding all the So this is from Kevin, 472 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:16,160 who says he's surprised I haven't been accused of being 473 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,960 a racist. Actually I have been accused of being a 474 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:28,799 racist for covering the tia Wana Brown story. So Stan says, 475 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,200 you misunderstand Pete. When she said her fight is rooted 476 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,920 in love, she meant it's rooted in love for money. 477 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,960 John says the Tiawana mole sounds like a character from 478 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,240 Hannah Barbera. It amazes me that she thinks she is 479 00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:50,680 so important that first the federal government indicted her simply 480 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,319 to stop her from being a city council woman, and 481 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,160 that there's somehow a conspiracy to leak her inner campaign workings. 482 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,880 My question is where did the email come from? What 483 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,920 email address sented? Was her email or her campaign? It 484 00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:09,000 sounds like it came from her, That's what it sounds like. 485 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: Now. 486 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,279 Speaker 2: She did hold a town hall a couple of days back, 487 00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:16,160 or actually that was she did two of them over 488 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,039 the last like two or three weeks. And despite the 489 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:23,880 federal indictment, the constituents who attended the town hall did 490 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,720 not show much interest in the indictment at all. Nobody 491 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:29,799 asked her any questions about it. Actually, during the Q 492 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,640 and A, most questions focused on Charlotte's growth and public 493 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:38,000 safety down in the Steel Creek division, and one constituent 494 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:41,119 told WBTV that what happens to Brown because of the 495 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,119 charges is more concerning than the actual charges. Quote, what 496 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,400 happens if we lose her, what happens with her challenges. 497 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,839 I think that's a big question, said Patrick Burris. Will 498 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:58,079 someone succeed her with the same ambitions, Well, definitely, same aspirations. Definitely. 499 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,400 I think that's what the biggest concern and is at 500 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:05,440 that point. Yeah, here's another idea. Maybe somebody better gets elected. 501 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,839 Oh my gosh, these people voters, man, I'll tell you 502 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,640 all right. 503 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: That'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 504 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:13,599 for listening. 505 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,839 Speaker 2: I could not do the show without your support and 506 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,599 the support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, 507 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,039 so if you'd like, please support them too and tell 508 00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:22,799 them you heard it here. You can also become a 509 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:27,480 patron at my Patreon page or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, 510 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,279 thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything 511 00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:32,039 while I'm gone.