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Speaker 2: Now it looks like I said, streaming live on YouTube.

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sound and uh, I'm just uh making sure I and

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so so it says we are live. Then okay, yeah

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there is someone what Okay, perfect, Okay, got it. Okay, guys,

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welcome back to the typical skeptic channel. I have a

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real treat for you guys tonight. And this is seriously

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someone who I can say like beyond art Bella esque

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type material. And when I say as someone who really

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comes with like real experience or stories with nostalgia, entertainment thrilling,

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bone chilling, I mean he adds culture to it with

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the new Orleans style. He's from New Orleans, so he

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adds that the French, the Creole, the African, the hoodoo,

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the voodoo. He mixes it all in and he paints

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a very beautiful picture about paranormal occurrences in New Orleans.

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And who I'm talking about is none other than Dark Waters.

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And he started doing this back in two thousand and

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he started doing this back then twenty and fifteen, and

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he was getting stories from people about in his around

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his town, around in New Orleans, about paranormal happenings that

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would go on there, and he decided to start to,

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you know, make a website about it. He talks about bigfoot,

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dog man, black eyed kids, shadow people's ghosts. He's appeared

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on some of the big paranormal podcasts and radio shows

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around the world, coast to coast, Beyond the Darkness Radio,

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Beyond the Edge Radio, Midnight in the Desert More. The

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way I found out about him was from the lovely

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Heather Wade, who I missed seeing on on UH. I

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miss seeing her stuff and I wish she was back

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on the radio, But I digress. Dark thank you for

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coming on my show. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing good? Rob, How you doing baby.

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Speaker 1: Good good, thank thank you for doing this. This is

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great and uh it's great to be live on YouTube.

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What what I wanted to ask you to start this

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off is like, how did you get an idea to

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do this? I mean, were you always a fan of

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the paranormal and then once you got the idea to

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do it? Like, how did you add so much flair

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to your your stories that they're just like they're like magical.

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could talk about that, but sorry, I'll ask you this first.

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How what how did you what you what got you

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I've always been a storyteller. That's a guy given gifts.

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I would hang out with friends and go drinking, and

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typically we would find ourselves in a room with twenty people,

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fifteen bottles of some kind of expensive champagne on wine,

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Speaker 3: People would tell stories.

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Speaker 2: So it would be a story about some girl that

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a guy met in Amsterdam at a whorehouse, or it

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elevator with two stinky old people. Just crazy stuff like that, right,

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the group of my friends, which are phenomenal storytellers themselves,

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from real life experience. Then I hit this very real

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bad period in my life. I go through the or

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lose a whole bunch of assets. And I'm sitting there

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and I'm saying to myself, Man, you know, I need

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Speaker 3: And I don't forget.

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and we would listen to a story. I was like, Yo,

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these dudes whack. I could do better than them. He

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going to the bathroom. That's better than this. You should

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do it. So I decided to start doing it. But

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mean I've seen crazy stuff. I even had. Anybody who's

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grandmother and her who do practicing, and what happened to

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here voices and there were times where we would build

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whack because it was creepy pasta. It takes a special

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skill to sit there and write a story as an author,

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as a creepy pasta. All that said, I just want

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to tell real stories, and I have an extensive network

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of friends, so I started reaching out to all my friends.

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to you? And they started flooding me, you know, I

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mean flooding me with stories and things that happened to them,

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girls talking about from stuff. My early content is like

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robotic voices because I was just testing it out. But

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that's some of the rays paranormal and just real life storytelling.

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rape guys, who had people come in the house in

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the middle of the night, people who had guns pulled

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testing the content to see what people would like. And

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Speaker 1: So so I don't mean I was gonna say, when

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did you realize that New Orleans was special? Because here's

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my outlook on it, as a guy from Pittsburgh that

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listens to your stuff, and I've always had a fascination

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with your city. I've always loved it I've always seen

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the lore and you know, I even watched the episode.

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with there was that's on every year about American horror

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story where they did the one about the coven and

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the Coven of Witches was in New Orleans of all places,

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and I was like, well, there's just so much magic

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to your city. Is did you did you find did

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that come on real fast? Did you? Or did you

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already already always know that?

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Hollywood and TV shows, they glorify things like the Lorenz

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that's here. The magic that happens in New Orleans actually

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is where you have people who are in their houses

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practicing who doo and voodoo, So.

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and who do practitioners here, But one of the biggest

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who do practitioners like he was like they he was

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Speaker 2: That guy didn't have a place, but he would go

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Speaker 3: Everybody knew about him. He was a martial artist.

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spiritual warfare, and in order to understand any of that,

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people have to understand what dominion is and the spirits

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that have dominion in New Orleans and the people who

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worship the spirits that have dominion in New Orleans, how

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those spirits got dominion and things of that nature. And

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people don't understand that.

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Speaker 1: What's that mean? If you don't mind me asking, I

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love it. And does this have to go deal with

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spiritual warfare?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: This is this is This is the basics of all

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spiritual warfare, and it's the basics of all magic. It's

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the basics of everything. So basically, dominion is what God

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you'll see where God created man and woman and he

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gave them dominion over the earth and all the creepy

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things and the files of that and told them be

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fruitful and multiply. Right, So if you understand what dominion

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dominion over everything on this planet, then you can truly

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get to understand what happens in spiritual warfare.

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Speaker 3: Magic and spirit work. Right, So every.

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in this planet through a person. So for example, we've

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all seen the videos where there's these rappers and it's

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the easiest thing is to say rappers, they're like, I

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sold my soul to the devil, right, or I did

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a deal with the devil. Yeah, they did do a

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deal with the devil because they needed a spirit to

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work with them in order to get their success. And

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they made a sacrifice and they got the success they

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want and they got the deal that they wanted. So

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people have options. And if you have anybody who's in

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your audience that knows about magic, they'll know I'm telling

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the truth. They can work with a specific spirit, a

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spirit of Lord Risha are In my case, I'm a Christian.

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I work with God's Spirit, the Holy Spirit. So you

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can choose whatever spirit you decide to work with. But

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all spirits have to function on this planet through a person.

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rituals that we do in New Orleans that most people

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Speaker 3: Like every year we have Marti Gras.

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research the names of the crews of Martigras, Coomas, moments,

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they're all based on spirits. And so what essentially what

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whole city and everybody from around the country comes down

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and they participate in a gigantic ritual. They don't know

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they're participating in a gigantic ritual, but they're participating in

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a gigantic ritual. Therefore, those spirits have dominion over this city,

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the city is. If you've ever been in New Orleans,

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what's going on when you come in. So you'll have

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Speaker 2: You have a man who's been married to his wife

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won't be no stuff, don't start no stuff, won't be

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no stuff. That's second line music. Let's go get them

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all kinds of songs.

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Speaker 3: And if you're listening to me right now.

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Speaker 1: When you get a chance, what about the old songs

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that the one who went my grandma and your grandma sitting?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Is that like a paranormal? Does that have

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paranormal intentions? Is that because they used it in a

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movie and I think they tried to make it like

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it was you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: No, So it's that's about. It's really my flag boy

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and your flag boy are sitting by the by you.

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My flag boy told your flag boy, I'm gonna set

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your flag on fire talking about A and I A

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not so basically the Marty Gars Indian cruise down here right,

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which this is another thing people have thought staying about.

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When I say spirits, they have dominion in the waters

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right because there was huge cultural melting pot Africans, Europeans,

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Native Americans, everybody married each other, everybody with their different

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religious beliefs. You have black people down here who are

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real Native American bloodlines.

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Speaker 3: Right when you.

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Speaker 2: Start talking about flag boys, spy boys things of the

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nature that they talk about in that song. They are

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literally talking about things from Native American culture when they

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when those tribes went through water, they had a boy

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who carried the flag. They had a spy boy who

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went out and spied on the others, on the other tribes.

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Speaker 3: Then they had the big chiefs. So if you watch

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the second lines, real second lines in Marti Gras, like real,

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not Marti Gral, real New Orleans second lines where they

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come out in the streets, you'll see these guys in

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these huge feathery outfits and it's big Chief from uptown

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and there's big Chief from downtown, Big Chief from back

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of town, front of town. They will march across the

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sea city and meet each other and literally open up

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these huge feathery They look like big old peacocks. It's beautiful, bro,

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it's really beautiful.

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Speaker 2: But it's paying homage to their old Native American traditions

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and the Native American traditions in their bloodline. Now here's

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where a lot of the violence in New Orleans come from.

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And people don't understand this because there were so many,

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so much, so much bloodshed in the city amongst Native Americans.

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Speaker 3: The slave trade all this other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Our streets are soaked with blood, and so the violence

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is inherent in this city. It's one of those things

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where it's like no, no, no, no, this city is violent.

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Even when the city was devoid of people after Katrina,

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when I was here working, there was still murders going on.

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Speaker 3: It was ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It was people coming out of town from out of

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town murdering each other. Because the city has a spirit

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of violence on it, right. So that's why you see

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New Orleans the way it is now. Most people look

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at New Orleans and they think of it as just

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a good time city. But if you really want to

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talk about what happens here, you have to understand when

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you visit this place, what you're walking into. There are

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people who I know who live here who say, James,

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you know, or they moved out of the city. They'll say, James,

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I have to drive to the city for work, and

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when I crossed the line that leads me into Orleans Parish,

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which is New Orleans is Orleans Parish, it feels different

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than where I came from. And I tell them, yeah,

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it is different because there's a different spirit that rests

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in this city than Slide down or Covington or Mandeville,

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all applies or baton rouge, and it's palpable. You can

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feel it when you're here. You're on edge, you're paying attention,

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like you know that something can pop off at any

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point in time. And so that really stems from the

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spirits that operate in the city. If you look at

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what goes on around here, man, think about it. I

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told you earlier that spirits work through people. Right now,

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there's people who go out and they make deals with spirits.

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So those are the ball players, the rappers who say,

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you know, I'm gonna go make a deal with this

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period and I'm gonna ask for this amount of money

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blah blah blah. We see it all over Instagram right now.

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Right then there's the average person bro who has no clue.

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Right they're just running around living their life and they're

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doing things and they end up engaging in activities that

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invite spirits in. So you will have them do anything

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from you know, the people who just have evil thoughts.

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They'll be like sexual, moral and moral, like playing around

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doing like sex toys, sex toy parties, run around doing

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crazy stuff. They'll be thieves, they'll be murderers, which are

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city is full of murderers, all the sins that you

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can think of, adultry for on occasion, greed, wickedness, like

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anything that you can dig up, lewdness for example. People

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come to New Orleans every year, right, and.

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Speaker 3: They have.

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Speaker 2: They have this huge weekend. I forgot the name of it,

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Decadence Festival. I don't know if you've ever heard of that.

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Have you ever heard? Okay, So every year there's Decadence

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Festival in New Orleans and you go down to the

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French quarters doing Decadence Festival, and it's pure lewde activity.

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It's just people walking around with the penises out, that

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breast out, I mean just in the street. Because that's

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a part of the spirituality of this city. It's a

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part of the spirit that rules the city. And so

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you see these things and what happens for the average

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person who is not spiritually aware. They end up going

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out and they're just doing stuff right, and then their

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behavior attracts the spirit.

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Speaker 3: Tell you a quick story.

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Speaker 2: One of the guys I work with here on YouTube,

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he had to move in with his brother in law.

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Check this out. This is how crazy it is. So

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his nephew's there and they're talking and he calls me.

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He's like, yo, man, you know, we had a rack

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of ribs we bought from the store, and the whole

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rack of ribs is missing. So a rack of ribs

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go missing one day. The next day, his cell phone

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goes missing. The next day, some money goes missing. So

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they all realize it's the nephew doing is stealing, so

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they start hiding stuff from the nephew because they know

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he's stealing. So he takes a computer, puts it under

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the mattress, right, Actually, not under the mattress, he puts

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it between the box spring and the headboard, right, So

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it's stuck between the box, the box spring, and the headboard, which, bro,

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you're not supposed to be able to find that, right. Well,

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he leaves, comes back, his computer's gone, and we talk

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and he said, yo, man, how in the hell does

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this kid know where my computer is? And I say

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because he has a spirit of theft on him. And

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he was like, I don't understand that. Say let me

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explain to you. So when you go out on.

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Speaker 3: You yeah, when you go out in, you go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, that's so interesting that the spirits work

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through people like that, like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: It's all good. That's how but that's how it works.

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Speaker 2: So if you go steal something one time, right, Let's

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say me and you we go to the grocery store

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and you know not they have the little candies at

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the store where you can stick your hand in there

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and get a candy.

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Speaker 3: Is full the scoop it in the bucket.

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Speaker 2: So let's say you and I going there one day

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and we steal a candy and we eat it, right,

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we decide that we was going to steal that. Now

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every day you and I go to the same store,

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and every day we steal a candy, right, and then

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the next day, instead of stealing a candy, we steal

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a candy bar. But we making these decisions at some

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point in time, our activity of theft us continuing to

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steal sends a signal out saying, hey, any spirit that

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loves stevery, I'm stealing. And guess what, Because you open

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yourself up to that, that spirit comes next thing. You know,

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you start stealing and don't know why you're stealing, people

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experience it easier. A better example that people will understand

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is alcohol right, So you're drinking. Every alcoholics starts off

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by taking one drink, right, They take another drink, they

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take another drink, and they get to a point to

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where they can't control. Then they can't stop drinking. Why

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does that happen. I'll tell you why. Because at some

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point in time, you've been given over to the spirit

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of alcoholism, and so now you just drink them. People

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don't even want to drink. They don't want to be drunk.

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They don't like what's going on in their life. They

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don't like how it's affecting their family. But they can't

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help themselves. And how do they get fixed. They go

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to Alcoholics Anonymous and they get a coin and they

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commit to not drinking anymore. Not one sip of alcohol

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can they take. And they have to have a partner

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with them that says, okay, bro. They'll call hey man

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two o'clock in the morning. Man, I'm thinking about having

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a drink. I want to have a drink, And the

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part is like, no, don't take a drink. I'm coming

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over there with you. We're gonna get coffee. I'm gonna

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keep you off this horse. You're not gonna drink. That's

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because they're turned over to that spirit of alcoholism. And

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so that's how it works.

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Speaker 3: People get turned ye.

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Speaker 1: Would you say that?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Also, people could have a working put on them, And

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I know you talk about this a lot. I think

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they call it a working right, when someone puts magic

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on someone that's causing them to display those behaviors. Could

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be voodoo hoo dooo, And I'd love for you to

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also get into the difference between voodoo and vodoo. But

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could this be someone's got a working put on them

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which causes them to behave a certain way as well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can have a working put on it's a hex. Yeah,

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you can have someone to hext you, but it's a

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it's a it's a little more complicated than just someone

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putting a working on you. So all right, we already

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established in all conversations, right that every spirit works through people. Right,

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So let's take the hex or the person that's putting

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the hex on the person and then the person that's

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being hext. These are two different individuals, right. What does

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it take to put a hex on a person? And

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what does that mean? Most people don't understand what it means, right,

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Most people the person who's putting the hex on a person.

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They have a very specific understanding of the spiritual realm.

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They understand that everything works through a spirit. They also

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and anybody who really practices, who do a voodoo, they

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will tell you this. They understand that the spirit that

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they're working with goes and launches a petition in heaven

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against that person that they're trying to hex. Right, So

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it goes up, literally leaves, goes to the course of

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heaven and say, hey, Rob and Dog waters over here

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talking bad about people, and they wronged me, and according

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to spiritual laws, which those spiritual laws in the Bible,

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according to spiritual laws, our petition to hext them and

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do this to them. Right, So that's the initiation, the

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petition of the hecks. On the back end, you and

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I just going through our lives, but we have no

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clue about how real spiritual warfare works and how spirits work.

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So we're just going through our life handling our business.

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Let's say you and I go to the strip club

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and we see some nice girls and I'm like, yo,

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we're gonna take these braws back to the hotel.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna smash.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, and we do that every night, we

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just racking up all these sins and all these wrongdoings

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and all these wrongs. Well, guess what when that hex

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is launched, that is a petition, and it's petitioning based

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on your activity in life, So based on the sins

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you did, based on what you did wrong, based on

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what happened. It said, none of them know, I want

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to curse him because he did this, this, this, this, this,

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and so guess what. People don't understand this part. God,

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the God says, because he's a judge. The God says, okay,

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and that's how you get hext. Literally, that's how you

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get hext. The God of all gods, the most high God,

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and I ain't I'm talking about Jesus Christ. Some people

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call him Jehovah Nissi, Jehovah shama, Jehovah uh shalom. That God,

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the God, the judge Jehovah l Mishfat is sitting in

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court while these petitions are launched. And because his word

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stands and his rules stand, he says, okay, you can

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touch that person in that area of their life and

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then bam, that person's hext. That's how it works. So yes,

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it can that can happen to a person, and it

473
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,480
happens to people all the time.

474
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: And it's more prevalent down there, Like people put workings

475
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,680
on each other down there a lot, right, and they

476
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,640
even put workings on long distance people, right. And and

477
00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:01,720
let me ask you this, This does the rule of

478
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:05,359
witchcraft where if you do something like a wrongdoing is someone,

479
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,000
if you heck someone, uh, does it really come back

480
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,000
on you times.

481
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:14,559
Speaker 3: Tex Yes, it's a couple of things.

482
00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:16,599
Speaker 2: Like a heck saw a curse without a cause is

483
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,519
not gonna stick if the person knows what to do

484
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:20,759
to get it off of them. But if they if

485
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,960
that person is wrong to another person, like the person

486
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,519
who was hex casting the hecks has been wrong. They

487
00:24:25,519 --> 00:24:29,680
got a Vali case, right, and then the comeback on

488
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:35,240
you ten times part it really that really works based

489
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:42,039
on the person who's being hexed either repenting if they're Christian, repenting,

490
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,279
then coming to Christ and pleading the blood of Jesus.

491
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:47,839
If there's someone who practiced magic, sending another spirit to

492
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,759
go argue with that spirit in the courts, and petition

493
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,160
for their own safety and their own well being. And

494
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,160
those are the two ways it gets resolved. Some people

495
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,440
call it cleansings, and some people do cleansings of their

496
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,319
bodies and themselves to make that they can turn things. So, yes,

497
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,119
that that definitely works that way. As far as to

498
00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:08,720
for what was the other question you asked after that, Well.

499
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: I can't remember where I was saying. Going with that,

500
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,440
I was we were talking about hack singing. Well, let

501
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,920
me ask you this, I'll switch this topic. What's the

502
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,640
difference between who do and voodoo? Because I've always been interested,

503
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:22,119
is it basically the same thing or as who do?

504
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,680
It is a little bit different.

505
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,279
Speaker 2: When you start talking about who doo and voodoo, they're

506
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:33,440
both believes from the same region of the world. One

507
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,359
of them is more of one of us, more of

508
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,720
the worship of old ancient African spirits. Some people call

509
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,799
it the Risha's the seven powers that a lot of

510
00:25:44,839 --> 00:25:48,440
that goes into to voodoo. When you start going into

511
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,799
who doo, whodoo is a bit more complicated. If you

512
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,319
if you talk to real hodoo practitioners, if you talked

513
00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,119
to anybody who knows anything about who doo, they say

514
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,799
who do is extremely deadly and extremely dangerous because who

515
00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:07,359
do practitioners. Most who do practitioners proclaim to be Christians,

516
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,279
and they actually use what's called who do Bible magic,

517
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,880
which is basically the psalms of the Bible against their enemies.

518
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,200
So the difference on a surface level, because there's these

519
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,720
deeper levels and differences that because I haven't practiced them,

520
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:27,160
I don't want to even try and go into those

521
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,359
deeper levels. But on the surface level, that's more of

522
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,599
a difference. And then we start dealing with who doo,

523
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,079
you're really dealing with herbs and and things from the

524
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:40,920
ground and different names and things of that nature.

525
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,599
Speaker 1: The Louisiana version of the original African voodoo, would that

526
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,559
be a difference as well?

527
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 3: Or as it's a it's a it's a blend.

528
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,279
Speaker 2: So it's who do is what came, It's what transpired

529
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,079
from when slaves came over to America and they started

530
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,119
adopting different things and blending it in, and so that's

531
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,000
where you get it. It's a blend of everything. But

532
00:27:05,559 --> 00:27:08,279
if you, for example, if you talk to any pastor

533
00:27:08,319 --> 00:27:10,720
here in New Orleans and you say, well, what's who do,

534
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,559
They'll say that is the most dangerous, vicious thing form

535
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:18,039
of magic that you can deal with. Because most people

536
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,559
down here in New Orleans. They practice who do? They

537
00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,680
don't like. People think it's voodoo because voodoo is the

538
00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:28,279
marketable name, right, But it's really who do that. People

539
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,880
down here practice more than anything, but voodoo is the

540
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,920
name that's really marketed. You know what I'm saying. It's

541
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,000
like voodoo fests, voodoo voodoo, but it's really who doo

542
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,079
that people are practicing in their houses. So you'll see

543
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:44,000
people going to a botanical store and buy, you know,

544
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:49,799
penis candles to cause there they're a lover who was

545
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,319
cheating on them, be in fertile, right, and but they'll

546
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,200
take that penis candle. They'll go read the Psalm of

547
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,039
the Bible over that candle and light it and it

548
00:27:56,079 --> 00:27:57,519
will make that man infertile, right.

549
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,559
Speaker 1: They'll uh, never heard of the Bible being used for

550
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,680
vicious magic. That's that's it. That's wow. That's so interesting.

551
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:10,759
That's so interesting. Like you don't hear about that up here,

552
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,200
you know, you just don't like. That's what I'm That's

553
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,440
why I find it so interesting. I don't know if

554
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,519
that's just a New Orleans thing or if that's like

555
00:28:17,599 --> 00:28:20,720
a if that's where it got its roots, and maybe

556
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,960
it's spread around the world. But what are your thoughts, like,

557
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,559
do you think that's mostly down where you're at, or

558
00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:27,640
do you think that's all around the world.

559
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,319
Speaker 2: No, that's what hodu is, That's what a lot of

560
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,559
people using. That's what a lot of hodu practitioners do.

561
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,359
But you know, this is the crazy thing, right. I

562
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,519
have a lot of respect for anybody who has a

563
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:43,759
spiritual practice. Like most people don't understand the knowledge that

564
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,400
like a wickan or a witch or who do, or

565
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,440
a voodoo practitioner has they had. They're very knowledgeable about

566
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,559
the spirit realm, you know. And I tell people all

567
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,000
the time I'm in New Orleans. I know people who

568
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:58,119
are voodoo practitioners. I go to their conventions. We'll sit

569
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,119
down and talk and everything, and they're very, very knowledgeable.

570
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,720
The one thing I don't understand is with that knowledge,

571
00:29:06,759 --> 00:29:07,880
they know what's going on.

572
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: So let me walk you through something, right.

573
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,599
Speaker 2: So let's say I practice who do right, and I

574
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,200
want to do that same penis candles fell right, and

575
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,799
I go get the Psalm of the Bible.

576
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: I like that. I read that psalm.

577
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,559
Speaker 2: I like that candle, which is petitioning the spirit to

578
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,440
go to heaven and tell God the God Jehovah el mishfact,

579
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:33,960
the judge.

580
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: They's going to tell.

581
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: God, Hey, this person chose me to represent them and

582
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,880
deal with their husband who was cheating on them and

583
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:49,440
cause infertility. You sent that to God. You sent an

584
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,240
evil spirit to God to represent you in court.

585
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,279
Speaker 3: I don't.

586
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if people really understand what that means.

587
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,119
I don't even I don't think they grasp I know,

588
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,559
the average who do like in home, who do practitioner

589
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,720
is not really grasping what they're doing now, the real deal.

590
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,759
The ones that will have a tree fall on your house.

591
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:16,960
Oh they know, Oh they know. I know, they know.

592
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:19,319
I've spoken to some of them. But the average person

593
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:23,319
who just wants power, they don't understand it. Because most

594
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:27,200
people who practice things they want power over an area

595
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720
of their life that they can't change. They know that

596
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:33,519
there's a spiritual component to that change in their life.

597
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:35,599
So they know, Okay, if I haven't found the woman

598
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,559
that I want because I'm not good enough and I

599
00:30:38,599 --> 00:30:40,880
don't have enough good enough mouthpiece, so I don't look

600
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,920
good enough, they know that there's a spiritual component that

601
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,000
can fix that problem.

602
00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:46,839
Speaker 3: Right, They know without a doubt.

603
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,359
Speaker 2: So that's why you have like New Orleans is full

604
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:52,000
of botanicals where you can go buy candles by this they.

605
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: Say, oh, I need more money.

606
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go buy a cash candle, right, and they're

607
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:56,079
gonna take that cash candle. They're gonna get the psalm

608
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,400
over it, and they gonna get some money. But I

609
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:05,799
don't think they completely understand what they're doing. And darn

610
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,279
is the problem I see with people. Now, as far

611
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:10,000
as I'm gonna sn you make your own decisions. Do

612
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:11,799
whatever you want to do. That is your life. That's

613
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:14,920
your life, that's your soul, that's your eternity. Man handled

614
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,279
it whatever however you want to handle it. But nobody

615
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:23,079
really discusses what actually happens. I don't know if because

616
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:25,200
nobody has the balls to discuss it, or if it's

617
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:30,480
because nobody knows. But nobody really talks about what happens

618
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:34,599
when you do that. And so imagine me and you

619
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,839
doing that. And we sent a spirit to God's court

620
00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:42,920
to petition God to actually do something. All behalf from

621
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,680
an evil spirit. So we took God's word, perverted it

622
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,839
and using a perverted way, bro the consequences and repercussions

623
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:51,400
of that are monumental.

624
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:52,839
Speaker 3: Monumental.

625
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:56,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's going to have some kind of karmic

626
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:58,319
effect in the long runs.

627
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:02,039
Speaker 2: What you're saying in carmick effect, that's what damns you.

628
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,720
The hell ain't no karmic effect. The karma is now

629
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,519
you made a decision. Now you may not, you may

630
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,640
be ignorant of that decision. But the law is the law.

631
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,359
You know what I'm saying. The reason why the hexes

632
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000
work is because it's the law. Right, The law is

633
00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:18,799
the law. So just like that hexer can use the

634
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,279
law to hext you, just like you can use the

635
00:32:21,359 --> 00:32:23,640
law to defend you from somebody hexing you.

636
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 3: The law is the law. It's like me and you.

637
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:30,119
Speaker 2: Let's say you and I ride down the street and

638
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,279
we didn't know the speed limit was seventy five miles

639
00:32:35,319 --> 00:32:37,559
an hour. We were on the highway right a few

640
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:39,160
seconds ago it was seventy five.

641
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: It just changed.

642
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,559
Speaker 2: We went through a construction zone. We didn't notice the

643
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:46,200
speed limit dropped the fifty five right. Police pull us over. Well, man,

644
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,720
you was doing seventy five and a fifty five man,

645
00:32:48,759 --> 00:32:51,240
I didn't know. We ain't getting out that ticket. He

646
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:55,319
writing us that ticket, right, that's how it works. That's

647
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:56,119
how it works.

648
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing. Like you never never hear about like

649
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,279
that is in the in the real world, like as

650
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,880
far as like what the innergoing is a magic? And

651
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,319
I wanted to ask you this, what about people who

652
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:13,039
summon like the the voodoo vodo spirits, like for example,

653
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,960
like I had a friend who he was really interested

654
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,279
in voodoo one time, and he was telling me about

655
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:21,799
that the people summoned like Papa Legba. And I'm sure

656
00:33:21,839 --> 00:33:23,920
you've heard of him living where you are, Like that's

657
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,599
in uh in that kind of lore. In voodoo lore,

658
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,839
there's a character, one of the spirits named Papa Legba,

659
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880
and he'll come and if you leave him out something

660
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,839
or I don't know what exactly you have to do.

661
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,519
I didn't look into it enough. But you can do

662
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,160
things where he will come and he will perform tasks

663
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,319
for you, like right like or did things that he'll

664
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:47,519
grant you certain things. Now does he petition? How does

665
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:48,000
that work?

666
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,279
Speaker 3: Pa?

667
00:33:50,759 --> 00:33:53,079
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story about that to make a

668
00:33:53,079 --> 00:34:01,200
point to you. This happened at Oklahoma last month. This

669
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:04,000
guy's a close friend of mine. He comes, he's leaving

670
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:08,400
work and this girl comes in her Right about the

671
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,039
time he's about to get off work. This girl comes

672
00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:12,239
in and says, hey, I want to hang out with you.

673
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,920
Can we hang out? He says sure, but he says

674
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,239
where do you want to go? She's like, well, I

675
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,159
just want to go somewhere private. He says, no, no, no, no,

676
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,199
I'm not doing that. I'll tell you what. I got

677
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,320
to wash clothes. Come with me to the washing terrier

678
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:26,159
and let's hang out and talk. So they go to

679
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,480
the washingterier and they go to hang out and talk,

680
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,239
get through Washington folds and the clothes. She helps him

681
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,480
full all the clothes and then he says, well, look,

682
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,880
I'm gonna drop you off at home and you know,

683
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,440
we'll catch up later. So they're driving home and she says, well,

684
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,199
I don't want to go home, and he says, well,

685
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:44,800
why don't you want to go home? She says, well,

686
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,239
I don't want to go home because I don't want

687
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,360
to be in that house. So why don't you want

688
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,639
to be in the house. At this point in time,

689
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,480
they pull it up to the apartment complex. This guy

690
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,480
has a gift from God where he can discern spirits

691
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,639
on people, and he says what's inside that apartment? And

692
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:02,840
he points out her apartment. He points to the door,

693
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,760
what's in that apartment? And she says, how do you

694
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,440
know which room? I'm what door is mine? He says,

695
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,719
what's in that apartment? She says, well, I don't want

696
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,960
to go in there. And then all of a sudden,

697
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,079
she says, I got to stop talking to you because

698
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,159
this is going to cause major problems. He says, no,

699
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,039
that's not how that's gonna work. You're gonna tell me

700
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:26,280
what's going on. She tells him that her boyfriend. Her

701
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:32,159
boyfriend works with pap Alegba, and so she says, well,

702
00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:35,239
you know, every morning he wakes up and he drinks

703
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,320
coffee with pop Alecba and he leaves him tobacco, and

704
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,320
some days he smokes cigars with pop Alegba and drinks coffee.

705
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: And so my friend is sitting there.

706
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: He says, oh really yeah, He says, so why did

707
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:50,519
you come to me tonight? He asks a gerzy, why

708
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:52,199
did you come to me tonight? She said, I don't know.

709
00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:54,880
I just something told me to come and hang out

710
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,360
with you. He says, why do you think you came

711
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,199
to He already knows I already knew when he was

712
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:02,639
telling me the story. He says, why do you think

713
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,880
you came to me? She says, maybe I need help.

714
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,559
He says, well, I'll pray for you. So he starts

715
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:10,760
to pray with the girl, and she says, well, you

716
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,760
could pray for me, but I'm not gonna pray with.

717
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:14,599
Speaker 3: You because it's going to cost so many problems.

718
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,079
Speaker 2: Then in the middle of him praying, she says, my

719
00:36:17,159 --> 00:36:19,840
boyfriend's on the way home, and he says, I know,

720
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,559
and he's mad, and he tells her he said, listen,

721
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:25,519
if you want out of that apartment, you're gonna have

722
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,440
to get him out of there because he works with

723
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,440
Papa Legba, so therefore he has control over you. Well,

724
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:37,119
he lets her go up into the apartment. Twenty minutes later,

725
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,199
he hadn't even made it home. She calls him, and

726
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,199
this is his exact words. She says, who has been

727
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,679
in this apartment? And she says, nobody's been in here.

728
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,920
He tells the girls again, tells the girl again who

729
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,239
has been in here? She says, nobody's been here. Then

730
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,400
he says, whose spirit came in here? And she gets quiet,

731
00:36:57,639 --> 00:37:00,480
and so she's telling him this over the because she's

732
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,599
gonna step away from a boyfriend, and she's like, I

733
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:04,320
don't know what to do. He's threatening to beat me

734
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,079
and do this and this and this and this, and

735
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:09,000
he was like, look, either you're gonna leave that situation

736
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:12,360
or you're gonna stay in that situation. But that's a

737
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,519
choice that you're making until the guy ends up beating

738
00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:18,079
a girl up that night and all the rest of

739
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,280
this crazy stuff. Now here's the crazy thing. Doing that

740
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,440
conversation in the car before he prayed for her, she

741
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:28,760
told him that the guy had multiple girlfriends, like six

742
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,960
girlfriends around the area, right, and that the guy had

743
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,119
set up six altars in six different places around the area.

744
00:37:36,199 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: To Papa Legba.

745
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,199
Speaker 2: This brings me to my next point of true spiritual warfare,

746
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,519
and most people don't understand this. True spiritual warfare happens

747
00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:50,000
when an altar of God, an alter God, can be

748
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:52,239
a person. It could be a church, it could be

749
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,559
a business. If I had a car washing business that

750
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,400
was dedicated to Jesus Christ and my call and I

751
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,000
literally so my van that I washed cars out of,

752
00:38:03,039 --> 00:38:06,079
like details is dedicated to Jesus Christ. And I drive

753
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:08,800
up into that parking lot of that place where Papa Legba,

754
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,559
that the same apartment complex with that alta Papa Elegba is.

755
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,079
There's angels coming out of my van. There's Papa Legaba

756
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:17,760
spirit and his spirits coming out of that apartment. That's

757
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,199
what true spiritual warfare is. And people don't understand that

758
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,519
because they've never studied it. If you go back and here,

759
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:26,519
look in the Bible, they talk about Jacob's ladder when

760
00:38:26,559 --> 00:38:28,960
Jacob fell asleep in the desert and he had a

761
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:30,719
dream about a ladder and he saw a ladder with

762
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,039
angels going up and down where he fell asleep at

763
00:38:33,159 --> 00:38:37,159
wasn't altar. That altar was a place where angels, trance like,

764
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,280
came through a portal to function in this realm. Remember

765
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,400
I said, spirits gotta work through people, right, Angels work

766
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,639
with people. So this is a place where angels was

767
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:52,159
coming through, and so true spiritual warfare. Hold on, somebody

768
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,079
is doing something. How many people in your chat right now?

769
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,119
Speaker 1: I didn't even look. Let me stay, there's six people

770
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:03,039
watching right now, not a lot. There's like.

771
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: Somebody's doing something, all right, whoever's doing that or whoever's

772
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,719
doing that, go ahead and stop, because I'm not here

773
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,840
to I'm not here to offend or hurd of harm anybody,

774
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,079
but somebody's doing something anyway. True spiritual warfare is where

775
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,199
it's happens when those altars collide. So, for example, I

776
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,360
give you a perfect example of it. If you were

777
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,840
to come here to New Orleans and hang out with me,

778
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,519
and I let this agard and took you and put

779
00:39:29,559 --> 00:39:31,440
you in my car, and you really rode around real

780
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,440
New Orleans, not downtown I Bourbon Street. We went to

781
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,559
the hood. You would see a liquor store, you would

782
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:43,880
see a you would see a church. Then you would

783
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,800
see a a CBD or marijuana distributors store dispensary, and

784
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,159
then you will see a church. You would see a

785
00:39:53,199 --> 00:39:55,679
strip club around a corner from a church. So what

786
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,800
true spiritual warfare is when those two different altars are

787
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,440
in direct competition for souls in that area. And so

788
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,719
that's what real spiritual warfare is. People think that spiritual

789
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,320
warfare is just praying. That's an aspect of it, But

790
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,039
there's another aspect of it that that's about territory. And

791
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,840
because all spirits have to work through a person, the

792
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,599
people are the actual territory.

793
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: So you and I brother, are territory because if.

794
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: The spirits are secretly fighting through us, like even wars

795
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,719
like you can take it to a political level, right like,

796
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,079
wars are probably thought spirits, I mean spirits like our

797
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,320
physical wars that are following this planet. Are those spirits

798
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,639
making those leaders go to war and stuff like that?

799
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: I would dare to say yes, think about it. Think

800
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,280
about it. So if every spirit has to work through

801
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:56,199
a person, right and and something needs to be done,

802
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,480
it's whoever has the most people working with them pretty

803
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,719
much wins the ill give it a perfect example. We

804
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,679
went through the whole virus phase. I don't want to

805
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,559
get you flagged. I'm just gonna see the virus phase.

806
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: Right.

807
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: What was the one thing that got shut down doing

808
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,760
that whole virus phase? The one spiritual aspect thing that

809
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,800
got shut down from it?

810
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: What got shut up?

811
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:18,079
Speaker 1: A church?

812
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,039
Speaker 2: You couldn't go to a church, You couldn't go to

813
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:22,880
a synagogue, you couldn't go to a mosque. You couldn't

814
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,199
go to any of those. Right, But where could you go?

815
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:29,440
You could go to You can go to walmartin by liquor,

816
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,719
you can go to a liquor store. Bro I knew

817
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,599
strip clubs that was open when churches was closed. So

818
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,559
when you start talking about spiritual warfare, one set of

819
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:39,800
altars are closed. The other set of altars are open

820
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:41,880
where people can go out and do things. And then

821
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,800
people wonder why things went downhill after that virus hit.

822
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,599
They wonder why, well, why did things get bad? Why

823
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:51,920
did crime get bad? Why did this get bad? Bro,

824
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,000
you had a certain set of altars, things got out

825
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,960
of balance, so far out of balance for it had

826
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,280
to be for what a year and a half.

827
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So but there was one set of things

828
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,599
ruling where people didn't have like, you know, the regular

829
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,039
outlets to go to to you know, room to pray

830
00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:13,920
or even even practice spirituality in any kind of way

831
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,800
like So that that that does make a lot of sense,

832
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,159
Like I never really thought of that.

833
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 3: But let's go a little bit deeper. Watch this.

834
00:42:24,599 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: There was a pastor in Louisiana they tried to arrest

835
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,840
for having church. There was pastor Rodney something in Florida

836
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:34,559
that they tried to arrest for having church. There was

837
00:42:34,599 --> 00:42:38,639
a pastor in Canada that they arrested, sent a swat

838
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,000
team to his church to shut them down, and they

839
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,920
were having church. In a parking lot. Ask yourself a question,

840
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:49,519
why in the world would you arrest a pastor? What

841
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:53,559
would motivate somebody in city government or state government.

842
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: To arrest a pastor a pastor? Who? What?

843
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: What motivates a person to do that? Really think about it.

844
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,639
What motivates a person to do that? And never in

845
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,599
my never in my you know, in my lifetime, when

846
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:08,920
I imagine that somebody would say, Okay, I'm going to arrest

847
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,840
a preacher for having church, how far did the scales

848
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,519
tip that you got to that point and see people

849
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:19,480
saw it happening, but they didn't understand it.

850
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: They really didn't.

851
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: And that's what it is. Bro, That's what true spiritual

852
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,280
warfare is. You know what I'm saying. I'll tell you

853
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,159
another story. So these are some of the things that

854
00:43:30,199 --> 00:43:33,960
I've come to conclusions about learning from the stories that

855
00:43:34,039 --> 00:43:35,920
I get from real people. There's this guy and his

856
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,599
wife came down in New Orleans, right, They come down here,

857
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,159
hang out on Bourbon Street. His wife gets drunk. Then

858
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:53,079
they go to the Final Call. Nope, that's not the

859
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,559
Porter Call is the name of the restaurant. They go

860
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:58,679
to Porter Call and get the Uma Homer. It huge drink.

861
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,920
Bro drink so big you gotta hold it in two hands.

862
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,239
Wife gets sloppy drunk, can't barely walk. Takes her back

863
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,280
to the air andbnb that they're staying in. Right, hanging

864
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,960
out on the airbnb. She passes out, goes to sleep

865
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,719
in the bed. He was horning his vacation. He thinking

866
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,000
he about to slap cheaps with his wife because we

867
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,559
on vacation, right, gets angry.

868
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:24,159
Speaker 3: She goes to bed. He's staying up all night.

869
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: Finally falls asleep, wakes up to his wife moaning like

870
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:28,320
somebody's having sex with him.

871
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 3: Hops up, turns on the light, sees this black.

872
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,679
Speaker 2: Mass, like black smoky masks leaving from like by his

873
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,960
wife's leg which is exposed out the cover and going

874
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:47,199
back into this grate in the floor. Because in New

875
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:50,480
wallans used to have these floor fans instead of air conditions.

876
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,519
They had these gigantic fans that they put in the

877
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:55,800
floor and it would suck cool and cooling cool air

878
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,480
in from the ground and pumping into the house. Right,

879
00:44:58,559 --> 00:45:02,280
So he sees this, freaks completely out, tells me he's like, yo, James,

880
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,440
this freaked me out. I didn't know what the hell

881
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:07,679
was going on, stays up all freaking night. Next morning,

882
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,679
his wife wakes up to taking a brunch and she says, well, baby,

883
00:45:10,679 --> 00:45:12,519
why were you having sex with me last night while

884
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:15,760
I was drunk? He says, I didn't have sex with you, right,

885
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:18,559
And so we're talking and he says, man, you know

886
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,079
why did that happen? So I can tell you why,

887
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:24,360
I said, but you're gonna be embarrassed. And he says,

888
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,280
well tell me. I said, I got to ask you

889
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,239
a personal question. I said, what kind of sexual practice

890
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,920
do you and your wife have when you guys are

891
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,800
at home? He said, man, that's too personal. I said, well,

892
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,679
you want to answer to your question. And so he says, well,

893
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,159
you know we every now and then, we use sex toys, we.

894
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: Do this, we do that. Okay, that's cool.

895
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,679
Speaker 2: I said, you're human people do that. I said, but

896
00:45:44,119 --> 00:45:46,440
tell me about your house. Tell me about what's going on.

897
00:45:46,519 --> 00:45:48,360
Do you guys go to church? He said, yeah, you

898
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,639
know I go to church all the time. You know,

899
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,119
I pray in my house. I said, okay. I said,

900
00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:54,159
so when you came to New Orleans, did you pray?

901
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:56,199
He said no, Man, she was too drunk.

902
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: Da da dah. I said, let me tell you what happened.

903
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: I said, Yo, you in your wife's behavior, sent the

904
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:04,960
signal out that to spirits that okay, no, we like

905
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:07,320
to have do this type of sex, right, I said.

906
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,360
You come to New Orleans a spirit that's ruled by

907
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,440
those kinds of things, and you just so happened to

908
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,599
go into a house that had one. And I said,

909
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,639
it took advantage of what was there and it had

910
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:17,440
sex with your wife.

911
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 3: He's like, that can't be possible. That's not how that happened.

912
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,760
Blah blah blah blah blah. He said, Bro, that's what

913
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:22,239
it is. I said.

914
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,559
Speaker 2: If you don't believe and take it back there again,

915
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,840
it's gonna happen again. Well, how do I fix it?

916
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:27,960
I said, Bro, I'm gonna be real with you. Just

917
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,440
apologize to God, repent and acts it not to happen again.

918
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,800
He says, man, that's it's that easy. I said, yeah,

919
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,239
it's that easy. I said, but you're gonna have to

920
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,320
stop doing that if you don't want to open the

921
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,440
door to it. And people've heard about this spiritual spouses,

922
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,199
you know.

923
00:46:41,079 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 3: Spiritual husband's spiritual wives.

924
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,559
Speaker 2: And finally he started reading about it, and then he

925
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:48,239
called me back, and he says, dark, I want to

926
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,920
tell you something, Bro. This happened years ago, he says, Bro,

927
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,719
I want to tell you something.

928
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 3: Man.

929
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: Thank you, he said, because I didn't know what we

930
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,280
were doing. I said, I know you didn't know, Bro,

931
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,320
I said, most people don't know. They don't understand. If

932
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,519
they understood the things that they were doing, wasn't doing them.

933
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,239
But they just don't understand it.

934
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 3: Bro.

935
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: So since they don't understand, they just living life, having fun.

936
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,719
They don't understand the spiritual consequences of what they do,

937
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:10,400
and they're in lines of problem.

938
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:10,599
Speaker 3: Bro.

939
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 2: We start talking about like demonic spirits and evil spirits

940
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,320
and things of that nature. They have one objective, Bro,

941
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,159
and it's crazy. That's to still kill and destroy. And

942
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,239
anybody who wants anybody who's saying, oh, he don't know

943
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,800
what he's talking about, open the Bible. I think it's

944
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,639
first Peter five eight, and then open the Bible to

945
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,199
John ten. Ten explains to you exactly what it is.

946
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:37,679
And in his case, I told him, I said, Bro,

947
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,360
so why did it happen? What was the objective of that?

948
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:42,559
Speaker 3: You know?

949
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:44,639
Speaker 2: Because now I've gotten to the point where I've been

950
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:46,599
in the paranormal feel for so long. When I talk

951
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:49,039
to people, I really want to know why is happening

952
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:51,639
and what was the purpose of it happening. I'm beyond

953
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,199
the scary story. But this is how come my stories

954
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:57,400
are so good because I know why it happened, and

955
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,559
then I can tell you why it happened without telling

956
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:01,800
you right, and why did it happen?

957
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: Because think about it.

958
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,039
Speaker 2: God made marriage for a man and woman so they

959
00:48:07,039 --> 00:48:09,960
could have sex and not fornicate right and not break

960
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,760
his law. So marriage is a gift from God between

961
00:48:13,039 --> 00:48:16,000
woman and man. Okay, So if there's a spirit that

962
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:19,119
fell or hates God and it has an opportunity to

963
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:21,519
go steal a gift from God, what does it do?

964
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:24,639
It goes and takes that and you silly enough, are

965
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,199
ignorant enough, are evil enough? Some people are ignorant they

966
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,000
don't know what they're doing. Some people kind of know

967
00:48:30,039 --> 00:48:32,360
what they're doing, they're just being silly. Some people just evil.

968
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,840
But you evil enough one of those three options to

969
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,400
allow it to happen, and boom it happens. And so

970
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,239
you talk to people in the paranormal community. All over

971
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,519
the paranormal community, there's people who when they go to

972
00:48:43,559 --> 00:48:46,239
bed at night, you know, they have nasty dreams, feel

973
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,800
like stuff is touching them. There's women who have orgasms

974
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,360
at night in the bed, don't know why. There's men

975
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,840
who go to bed at night and wake up and

976
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,199
having wet dreams, Like, man, why am I having wet dreams?

977
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,800
They don't understand these are the things that are going on.

978
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,039
I notice because I talk to those people. You know

979
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:03,159
what I'm saying, So you get to understand this thing.

980
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: Is that the same thing as aubist?

981
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: Exactly? Yep?

982
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,639
Speaker 2: But we call them but see we talk, Oh, that

983
00:49:10,679 --> 00:49:12,840
person has an incubus, they had a succubist. No, that's

984
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,239
a spiritual husband or spiritual wife. Why is that incubist

985
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:18,559
a cucubist? Why do they have the right to even

986
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:21,079
do that to you? For example, let's talk about pornography.

987
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:24,559
Real cool, we talk about real spiritual warfare, real adult things. Right,

988
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,400
let's talk about pornography. This is what happens to people

989
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,760
when they look at pornography. And I'm they happened to

990
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,719
me and I had to I was like, God, you

991
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,239
got to help me with this. This don't make no sense.

992
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,559
You start off, let's say in my case, I like

993
00:49:37,639 --> 00:49:40,440
lipstick lesbians. Right, I'm watching me some lick STIPs, like,

994
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,559
oh they so poor? I love this right this next thing,

995
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,800
you know, you done went to something worse. Next thing,

996
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,159
you know, you done went to something worse. Then you

997
00:49:49,199 --> 00:49:50,599
get to the point you're like, man, what the hell

998
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:51,320
am I looking at?

999
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 3: Right? This is crazy? You don't understand what you're doing.

1000
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,599
Speaker 2: You sitting there allowing a spirit to take you down

1001
00:49:58,639 --> 00:50:00,239
a rabbit hole and trying to get you you to

1002
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,079
a point to where you're completely and totally corrupted. That's

1003
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:06,199
why you don't need to look at pornography, you know

1004
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,719
what I'm saying. There was a friend of mine, this

1005
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,159
was three years ago, married, happy marriage, start looking at

1006
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:19,719
pornography and then he started feeling really insecure about himself,

1007
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,039
start having infertility. And he was like, man, pro you

1008
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:27,159
know my junk won't work. I said, well, what you've

1009
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:29,440
been doing, homie? You sitting there smoking cigars Da da

1010
00:50:29,519 --> 00:50:29,800
da dah.

1011
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: He just talking. You know, I take these pills. It's

1012
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,480
still not working. I'm doing this. It's not working like

1013
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:35,400
with what you've been doing.

1014
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: Man, you know I'll be looking at that porn I said, okay,

1015
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,880
So you're being infertile now, right. It's like, yeah, I said,

1016
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,800
why don't you turn the poem off and apologize looking

1017
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,320
at the poem because whatever you're watching, it's making you

1018
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,960
infertile because it's lead you in a direction to where

1019
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,719
you want a certain thing. And I said, Bro, I'm

1020
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,159
gonna be real with you. I said, it's not that

1021
00:50:54,199 --> 00:50:57,000
you're infertile, it's just it takes something more extreme to

1022
00:50:57,039 --> 00:50:59,400
turn you on. Now, I said, So it started off

1023
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,760
with you like live stick lesbians, and that turns you on.

1024
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 3: But that ain't good enough. Now it's something stupid that

1025
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,800
turns you on. Right.

1026
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, bro, it's ridiculous. I'm embarrassed to talk

1027
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,480
about it. I said, yeah, because you went down that road.

1028
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,239
So now you're at a point where it's something that's

1029
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,800
almost the meaning that turns you on.

1030
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,079
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, bro, that's what it is.

1031
00:51:18,119 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, so guess what you need to go

1032
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,079
apologize bro, and get that together. A month later, we

1033
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:26,400
hang it out again and he's like, man, I got

1034
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,840
all my inches working again.

1035
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:28,559
Speaker 3: Don't thank you.

1036
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:30,559
Speaker 2: Every inch is working away it's supposed to. We just

1037
00:51:30,639 --> 00:51:33,000
laughing and joke and he's like, thank you. But people

1038
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,440
don't understand these things.

1039
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:36,159
Speaker 3: This is true spiritual warfare.

1040
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:42,119
Speaker 2: It's it's most people think it's praying because something's touched

1041
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:43,159
you in the bed that night.

1042
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:43,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1043
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to pray, but you need to know

1044
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,199
why it has the why it can touch you.

1045
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 3: You need to go fix the reason why it can

1046
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,280
touch you.

1047
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'll tell you something about

1048
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,199
me and we'll talk about the spirit of fear. When

1049
00:51:54,199 --> 00:52:00,079
I first started doing the whole dog Waters thing, and

1050
00:52:00,119 --> 00:52:01,880
I call it dult Orders thing because my real name

1051
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,440
is James Williams, I was living in the house on

1052
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,199
twenty seven oh six Robber Street. I have this spell

1053
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:13,400
rob where I can't sleep because there's literally something When

1054
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,639
I close my eyes, it's like something grabs my spine

1055
00:52:17,199 --> 00:52:21,880
and pricks it, like it's like a guitar string going

1056
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,719
up and down my spine. I'm scared to sleep with

1057
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,960
my bag out the cover. I'm sleeping with my back

1058
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,079
against the headboard. I'm like, what the hell is going on?

1059
00:52:30,159 --> 00:52:33,639
This is crazy, right, I didn't understand it for years,

1060
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,920
years and years. I talked to my girl head they

1061
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,159
boded me and Heather real cool.

1062
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 3: I mess. Heather, she was a good person. I talked

1063
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,320
to her about it. I talked a whole.

1064
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: Bunch of people about it, and still nobody can explaining

1065
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:47,119
to me.

1066
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 3: Then one day.

1067
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there read my Bible and this is after

1068
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,480
I did like all these deliverance prayers to get that

1069
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,039
stuff to stop because it was crazy bros. Shadows walking

1070
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:03,400
around the house, all kind of ignorant stuff. And God

1071
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,599
tells me, do you want to know what was going on?

1072
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:08,599
I say absolutely. He says, you were being turned over

1073
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:11,039
to a spirit of fear. I didn't give you a

1074
00:53:11,039 --> 00:53:13,159
spirit of fear. I gave you a spirit of power,

1075
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,760
love and a sound mind. The spirit of fear prohibits

1076
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,760
you from getting all my protection and everything else associated

1077
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,360
with me. And it's crazy, bro, because if you understand

1078
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:29,639
what it means, like most people don't get it. Psalms.

1079
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:35,280
I'm trying to think of them. Psalms. Psalms twenty five right,

1080
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,639
Psalms thirty three, I think eighteen Psalms forty three seven.

1081
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,039
One of them talks about the secret of the Lord

1082
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:45,519
is with those who fear him. The other one talks

1083
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:47,719
about behold the eye of the Lord is on those

1084
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,480
who fear him. Another one talks about the Angel of

1085
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:54,440
the Lord a campits encamps around those who fear him.

1086
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 3: So, if I'm so busy being.

1087
00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: Afraid of whatever's spirit, the shadow Man, the dog man, Bigfoot,

1088
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,000
what am I giving up? Because I'm more afraid of

1089
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,599
that than I am a god. I give all his promises,

1090
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,039
all his protection, and bro, that's what happens to people.

1091
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:10,119
Speaker 3: There was this.

1092
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: Video that came out with my man Blue down in Florida,

1093
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:15,719
his dog man incounter.

1094
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,119
Speaker 3: Right. It was. I don't know if you've seen it.

1095
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:19,639
Speaker 2: It'still a dog man runs across the yard and there's

1096
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:20,800
this big old pole.

1097
00:54:20,639 --> 00:54:22,679
Speaker 3: And you see the dog man run across the screen.

1098
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen that yet.

1099
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:25,079
Speaker 3: Is it?

1100
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:25,679
Speaker 1: Is it real?

1101
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: I mean what you say, Oh, that's one hundred percent real, Bro,

1102
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,480
that's one hundred percent real.

1103
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: That whole neighborhood went under fear, so much so that

1104
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,039
they had extra police patrolling. People weren't going outside that night.

1105
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,840
For like three months, the whole neighborhood went under fear.

1106
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,360
Blue himself was the only person who didn't give into

1107
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,320
a spirit of fear because Blue was and it wasn't

1108
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,280
because he was like the most godly clean, unsinning person.

1109
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,760
It's just because Blue said, I never forget were on

1110
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,920
the phone. He says, Man, you know what, I'm not

1111
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,920
gonna worry about that. They gonna that's they love every

1112
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:02,079
over there. They're gonna do what they do. I'm gonna

1113
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:04,559
do what I do. But everybody else was scared to

1114
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:07,519
go outside that night. Bro, this dude gonna do what

1115
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:10,239
he need to do handle this business. But he and

1116
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,920
he never had any problems with it attacking him. I

1117
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,400
get this three doors down some other people. It came

1118
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:19,400
up and was literally scratching on their front door and

1119
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,199
looking through that window. So what's the difference between those

1120
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:28,079
two households? Blue wasn't afraid. They were afraid. And that

1121
00:55:28,159 --> 00:55:30,880
literally was it. And if you go back and watch

1122
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:34,679
the video with Blue, it's on my YouTube channel. When

1123
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,320
he closes the door, he said, he starts quoting scripture.

1124
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,440
He says, song twenty three yeay do I walk through

1125
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,280
the valley of the shadow or death? I should fear

1126
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,119
no evil. Then he stops and he says, whoo am

1127
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:46,199
I seeing this? Did y'all see that?

1128
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 3: Da da da da da da da.

1129
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:50,079
Speaker 2: And when he and I are talking and I'm like, bro,

1130
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,480
you don't realize what you did. And I said, and

1131
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,559
I broke it down to him and it took him

1132
00:55:54,599 --> 00:55:56,360
like a year to admit it to me.

1133
00:55:56,679 --> 00:55:58,159
Speaker 3: I said, Bro, you don't understand what you did.

1134
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,199
Speaker 2: You had God's word in your heart when you were afraid,

1135
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,159
just some unconsciously you called on God and you were protected.

1136
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,679
And I said, you haven't had any problems.

1137
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 3: He's like, nah, bruh.

1138
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: He said, I had to come look in the window

1139
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,719
one time, but he said it never bothered me. And

1140
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,679
I said, but your neighbors somebody wanted some of your

1141
00:56:14,679 --> 00:56:16,480
neighbors had to come in try and come to their house.

1142
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,920
And he's like, yeah, the shore did. So that's the

1143
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:24,239
true reality of spiritual warfare. Like another thing, my producer, right, Wes,

1144
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:26,519
you talked to West, You emailed Wes back and forth.

1145
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:27,679
Speaker 3: Wes is a good guy.

1146
00:56:28,639 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: For the longest, Bro Wes was having problems sleeping, Like

1147
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,519
he would go to sleep, would have dreams that demons

1148
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:40,079
were attacking him, that monsters were trying to get him,

1149
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,039
clowns with knives, crazy stuff, I mean, just crazy stuff

1150
00:56:43,039 --> 00:56:43,639
in his dreams.

1151
00:56:44,599 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: And finally he started talking about it and he got

1152
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,360
some help.

1153
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:55,079
Speaker 2: And he learned what was going on, and I told him,

1154
00:56:55,079 --> 00:56:57,920
I said, Wes, here's what the deal is. I said,

1155
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:03,719
God promise you, promises you rest. He promises you two things,

1156
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,679
peace and rest right. Jesus Christ is the prince of peace.

1157
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:09,400
And then in the Psalms it talks about I will

1158
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,199
rest in peace because my Lord makes me to I

1159
00:57:13,199 --> 00:57:15,360
will lie down to sleep because my Lord makes me

1160
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:19,039
rest in peace right. And so I was like West,

1161
00:57:19,039 --> 00:57:21,159
when you're having bad dreams like that which a lot

1162
00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:23,679
of people in the paranormal field have. Our community have,

1163
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:28,280
is because something's attacking their peace right, peace of mind.

1164
00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:31,519
So you can't sleep, But think about it, Rob, what

1165
00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:35,599
are the side effects of sleep deprivation. They're very, very extensive.

1166
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:43,199
Heart disease, diabetes, cognitive issues where you can't remember things,

1167
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,440
poor decision making, I said, weight loss. It's a lot

1168
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:53,400
of things that happen when you sleep deprived. So, and

1169
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I told you these things. Objectives are to still kill

1170
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:00,920
and destroyer, right, So if it's affecting your sleep, it's

1171
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,840
affecting your body, and it's taking years off your life

1172
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,760
and you're literally dying. So a way of killing you

1173
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,320
is affecting your sleep. So Wes had to do some

1174
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,280
things to get his sleep back in order. Now I'll

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call him.

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Speaker 3: What's what you're doing? I slept like a rocket. Was fantastic.

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I love it.

1178
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Boom a dune deal. That's the true essence

1179
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:23,880
of spiritual warfare. That's what happens in spiritual warfare. And

1180
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,920
so when you hear these stories on my channel, what

1181
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,760
you're hearing is the art.

1182
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: Of spiritual warfare.

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00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,039
Speaker 2: You are literally hearing what's happening to people that spiritual warfare,

1184
00:58:35,079 --> 00:58:38,079
whether it be somebody who had a bigfoot sighting and

1185
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:40,639
they got afraid, somebody who saw a big foot in

1186
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:44,039
their house, somebody who had a shadow man in their house,

1187
00:58:44,119 --> 00:58:49,519
somebody who saw a monster, I mean something with red eyes.

1188
00:58:49,679 --> 00:58:53,239
Like just recently in Oklahoma, one of the biggest battles

1189
00:58:53,239 --> 00:58:55,280
that I know that's going on. There's a neighborhood and

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00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,159
outside of art More, Oklahoma. Bro imagine the neighborhood with

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00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:05,119
twelve houses on one street and the entire neighborhood at

1192
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:10,320
night are seeing short black shadows with green eyes, the

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00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:11,280
entire neighborhood.

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00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's insane, Like it said, since wild,

1195
00:59:14,719 --> 00:59:18,760
you know, like I can't even imagine, like, you know, like.

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00:59:20,679 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 2: The entire freaking neighborhood bro so much so that one

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00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,000
of the guys who used to live there, he talked

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00:59:28,039 --> 00:59:29,840
about why he sold his house. He said, Man, I

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00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,159
sold my house because the land didn't like me, and

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,199
there were things coming in my house at night with

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green eyes. But this is Native American land. And the

1202
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,559
one of the significant things when we talked about dominion earlier, right, yeah,

1203
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,679
one of the significant things that happened in Oklahoma that

1204
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,920
Joe Biden did. I'm not gonna say nothing negative because

1205
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:55,599
people get all up in their arms about politics, but

1206
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:59,280
I will say I don't have nothing positive say. One

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,239
of the things that he did was they turned the

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01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:06,280
territories of Oklahoma that were used to be controlled by

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01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,679
the United States, the lands, the lands that were owned

1210
01:00:08,679 --> 01:00:10,960
by the United States, they gave it back to the

1211
01:00:11,079 --> 01:00:15,159
Native American tribes. Right, So essentially, what you did was

1212
01:00:15,199 --> 01:00:19,800
you gave that land back to the Native American tribes

1213
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:21,960
who have a different set of gods, and you gave

1214
01:00:22,039 --> 01:00:24,719
dominion over that land to those spirits.

1215
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:26,599
Speaker 3: But then you have people who live on that land.

1216
01:00:26,719 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: So there's people who've been living in houses that have

1217
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:31,800
never had any kind of negative activity, but over the

1218
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,400
past twelve months they had all kind of negative activity. Bro,

1219
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,800
you see what I'm saying. So that's what true spiritual

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01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:40,360
warf is.

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01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,519
Speaker 1: My brother, Wow, that's interesting. That that's so interesting, Like

1222
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,719
it really is. Uh, it's really like a battle for

1223
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,719
the soul, right, I mean they could conclude everything up.

1224
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,079
I guess it's a battle for the soul in the end.

1225
01:00:55,079 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a battle for the soul. And it's a

1226
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,239
battle for battle for the soul, and it's a battle

1227
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,679
for people, for spirits to work through in order to

1228
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:10,440
affect other people. Remember the movie The Matrix, right Agent Smith.

1229
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,719
Remember how when Agent Smith needed to they were going

1230
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,280
after Neo, and Neo would be like riding on the

1231
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:19,360
highway and the fighting boom boom, boom boom, and he'll

1232
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,880
get away and then Agent Smith will hop into another

1233
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,039
body of somebody driving a truck and then ram the

1234
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:31,039
truck into him. Agent Smith is a pure example of like,

1235
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:32,719
if you look at it the right way, you see

1236
01:01:32,719 --> 01:01:36,159
a spirit taking over territory needed to accomplish a goal.

1237
01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:40,239
So Neo got away, You ain't getting away. I got

1238
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:42,960
somebody over here. I can take over. Oh you over here,

1239
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:45,280
I got somebody over here I can take over. And

1240
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,480
so it shows you what it means by what territory

1241
01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:52,639
is as far as human beings being actual territory. And

1242
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,159
that's what we're dealing with when we deal with spiritual warfare.

1243
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:58,199
People don't talk about it like this, bro, I think

1244
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,320
because when you talk about things like this, you draw attention.

1245
01:02:03,039 --> 01:02:04,639
I know I draw attention. I can feel it, but

1246
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:06,559
I ain't worried about it. You draw attention when you

1247
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:08,840
talk about things like this because this is how people's

1248
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,960
souls get saved and their lives get changed because they

1249
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,000
get this understanding.

1250
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:15,039
Speaker 3: So, but it needs to be talked about.

1251
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: I hope we change some people's thoughts on ideas. I

1252
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,320
know you changed my whod perspective on the way the

1253
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,400
way I look at like spiritual warfare now like it's

1254
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,760
it's interesting, like to think that spirits worked through people.

1255
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,320
And let me ask you this as one more final thing,

1256
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,960
And this is the last thing I promise, because I

1257
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,480
know you're very busy, but I just want to ask you,

1258
01:02:36,519 --> 01:02:41,719
are the spirits working through humans because they miss what

1259
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,880
it's like to be human? Or or do they want

1260
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,400
to be human again too, or do they just want

1261
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,480
to destroy humanity.

1262
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,199
Speaker 2: Some of them are working through humans because they miss

1263
01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:54,400
what it is to be human. But their overall objective

1264
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,800
and goal is to destroy humanity. That's just their objective

1265
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:02,119
and goal. And if just for the record, because somebody

1266
01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:04,719
will say, well, dark Waters doesn't know what he's talking about, right,

1267
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,079
just for the record, if you go look at the

1268
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:09,880
story of Jesus and the Demon of the Gatherings, where

1269
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,639
Jesus confronted Legion, there was a man in a cave.

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01:03:14,159 --> 01:03:15,039
Speaker 3: He was chained down.

1271
01:03:15,079 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: They said he was breaking all of his chains, and

1272
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,920
he would take rocks and he would cut themselves and

1273
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,400
cut his body. And when Jesus walked up, they knew

1274
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,320
who Jesus was, and they said, have you come here

1275
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:28,320
to torture us before our time? If you really read

1276
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,000
that story closely and listen to what those demons said,

1277
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:38,000
they said, cast us out into the swine. Don't just

1278
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:40,079
cast us out, cast us out into the swine. That's

1279
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:47,039
a very significant thing. They petitioned Jesus, who's god walking

1280
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:48,679
on earth, to cast.

1281
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 3: Them in the swine. What did they know and what

1282
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,599
were they saying and what did it mean?

1283
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: It meant that if there was a person in the

1284
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,519
vicinity that they could have just hopped out and ran into,

1285
01:03:58,519 --> 01:04:00,000
they would have hopped out and ran into that person.

1286
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:02,039
And right, I'm gonna leave out of this man. I'm

1287
01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:03,960
gonna go on this man over here. So the real

1288
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:05,760
question is the man that was.

1289
01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 3: In that cave.

1290
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: How long had they been maneuvering him in position to

1291
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,119
where they could possess him, What had he been doing,

1292
01:04:14,199 --> 01:04:16,039
what kind of practices he had he had in his

1293
01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:18,400
life to where he could be possessed by those things.

1294
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,039
And that's the key that people need to understand. Your

1295
01:04:22,119 --> 01:04:26,239
behaviors open doors for things like that to happen. And

1296
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,519
so if you monitor your behaviors, going back to the

1297
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,320
whole thing about alcoholism and theft that we talked about earlier,

1298
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:33,880
if you monitor your behaviors, you can prevent a lot

1299
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:34,360
of this stuff.

1300
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,199
Speaker 3: But most people don't know to prevent it. But they

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01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,360
chose to go in pigs.

1302
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,599
Speaker 2: The reason why they wanted to go on those pigs,

1303
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:41,760
I believe was because they had a territory they was

1304
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,039
over and they didn't want him just to throw them

1305
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,480
all the way to the other side of the earth

1306
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,800
because he could have said, let's go in these pigs, right,

1307
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:50,960
and then the pigs ran off the cliff and died.

1308
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,280
So that being said, Bro, I mean that's real talk

1309
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,239
on spiritual warfare combined with stories.

1310
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1311
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool. If you want to tell everybody

1312
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,599
where they can find your YouTube, where they can find

1313
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:06,199
your website, all that stuff, And thank you by the way,

1314
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:09,320
I appreciate it. This was an interesting, very interesting show.

1315
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:10,239
Thank you so much.

1316
01:05:10,719 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 3: No, you're morning welcome. I am Dogwaters dot com. It's

1317
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,199
my website.

1318
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: Dogmenencounters dot Com is one of my website's paranormal outlaws.

1319
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,840
Dark Orders Radio is a radio station and you can

1320
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:27,039
find me on YouTube under dark Waters. Just type in

1321
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:30,880
dark Water channel pop up on YouTube. A whole bunch

1322
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,719
of stories, and I want people to understand like people

1323
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,960
for years Broad been accusing, Oh, you make these stories up, Bro,

1324
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,400
My stories are real, and it's real stories from real

1325
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:46,239
people who've had like these crazy, horrific encounters. And the

1326
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,159
reason why the content is so good is because these

1327
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,679
elements are what I lay out on the table. I

1328
01:05:52,719 --> 01:05:55,480
don't always talk about them in depth, but I lay

1329
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,280
out all the evidence on the table for you.

1330
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:58,519
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's all right there in

1331
01:05:58,559 --> 01:05:59,000
front of you.

1332
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,679
Speaker 2: If you underst saying what you're listening to, you'd be like, WHOA,

1333
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:04,039
this dude is really breaking it down. Now that I'm

1334
01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:06,239
telling people this, there's some people gonna go back and

1335
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,039
listen to be like, holy crap, he told us all

1336
01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:10,360
this stuff without telling it to us. But now it's time.

1337
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,320
Why I gotta start telling people. So I'm happy that

1338
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,559
you had me on to do this interview and talk

1339
01:06:14,599 --> 01:06:14,960
about it.

1340
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:15,159
Speaker 3: Man.

1341
01:06:15,239 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, thank you and uh yeah and uh

1342
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,000
I appreciate it and I have to do it again

1343
01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:22,480
sometimes that thank.

1344
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: You anytime you want, bro, That's what I love doing.

1345
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,840
I love talking to people, man, anytime