Speaker 1: You want to hit record. It's same preparing to live
stream the meeting, and then I'll have to turn the
volume down on YouTube once it once it does go live,
because uh, because you know how YouTube is that it's
uh so it's redirecting the YouTube.
Speaker 2: Now it looks like I said, streaming live on YouTube.
I didn't know you could stream straight from here to YouTube.
Speaker 3: That's cool, Yeah you can.
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty cool. I just want to make sure
I turn the volume down on YouTube because otherwise we'll
get a double like a reverb effect, you know, and
it'll it'll it'll say I muted the the uh the
sound and uh, I'm just uh making sure I and
so so it says we are live. Then okay, yeah
there is someone what Okay, perfect, Okay, got it. Okay, guys,
welcome back to the typical skeptic channel. I have a
real treat for you guys tonight. And this is seriously
someone who I can say like beyond art Bella esque
type material. And when I say as someone who really
comes with like real experience or stories with nostalgia, entertainment thrilling,
bone chilling, I mean he adds culture to it with
the new Orleans style. He's from New Orleans, so he
adds that the French, the Creole, the African, the hoodoo,
the voodoo. He mixes it all in and he paints
a very beautiful picture about paranormal occurrences in New Orleans.
And who I'm talking about is none other than Dark Waters.
And he started doing this back in two thousand and
he started doing this back then twenty and fifteen, and
he was getting stories from people about in his around
his town, around in New Orleans, about paranormal happenings that
would go on there, and he decided to start to,
you know, make a website about it. He talks about bigfoot,
dog man, black eyed kids, shadow people's ghosts. He's appeared
on some of the big paranormal podcasts and radio shows
around the world, coast to coast, Beyond the Darkness Radio,
Beyond the Edge Radio, Midnight in the Desert More. The
way I found out about him was from the lovely
Heather Wade, who I missed seeing on on UH. I
miss seeing her stuff and I wish she was back
on the radio, But I digress. Dark thank you for
coming on my show. How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing good? Rob, How you doing baby.
Speaker 1: Good good, thank thank you for doing this. This is
great and uh it's great to be live on YouTube.
What what I wanted to ask you to start this
off is like, how did you get an idea to
do this? I mean, were you always a fan of
the paranormal and then once you got the idea to
do it? Like, how did you add so much flair
to your your stories that they're just like they're like magical.
They all have so much like you know, like I mean,
I know it's the experience you're speaking too, but we
could talk about that, but sorry, I'll ask you this first.
How what how did you what you what got you
into it?
Speaker 2: It's a little it's a big complicate. So storytelling itself,
I've always been a storyteller. That's a guy given gifts.
I would hang out with friends and go drinking, and
typically we would find ourselves in a room with twenty people,
fifteen bottles of some kind of expensive champagne on wine,
and around the room.
Speaker 3: People would tell stories.
Speaker 2: So it would be a story about some girl that
a guy met in Amsterdam at a whorehouse, or it
would be a story about when somebody went to Cuba
and did something crazy or story about, like when I
went to Florida and ended up being trapped in the
elevator with two stinky old people. Just crazy stuff like that, right,
So we would sit around and entertain ourselves by telling stories.
I just so happened to be the best storyteller from
the group of my friends, which are phenomenal storytellers themselves,
from real life experience. Then I hit this very real
bad period in my life. I go through the or
lose a whole bunch of assets. And I'm sitting there
and I'm saying to myself, Man, you know, I need
to figure out a way to generate another income, and
I need to find something to pull me out of
kind of like the funk and the rut of what
I was dealing with. And so I started watching stuff
on YouTube and I heard some of the creepy pasta storytellers.
Speaker 3: And I don't forget.
Speaker 2: I was sitting on my porch on twenty seven oh
six Robber Street smoking a cigar with my friend Corey Williams,
and we would listen to a story. I was like, Yo,
these dudes whack. I could do better than them. He
was like, bro, I've heard you tell stories bro about
going to the bathroom. That's better than this. You should
do it. So I decided to start doing it. But
I wanted to deal in the paranormal because from a child,
I've always had paranormal experiences. I never put a whole
bunch of stock in them as a kid, but I
mean I've seen crazy stuff. I even had. Anybody who's
listened to me for a long time knows about my
grandmother and her who do practicing, and what happened to
me when I was twelve one or thirteen years old.
And so outside of that, I had things while I
was in the woods and pretty much in the swamps
in New Orleans, and we're walking to these cold spots
here voices and there were times where we would build
skateboard ramps in the woods and things with the rocks
at us, and other times we would see things. It
was just crazy. All kinds of stuff would happen. And
so I decided I was going to tell paranormal stories.
The problem I ran into was I'm listening to what
people were doing when I first started, and it was
whack because it was creepy pasta. It takes a special
skill to sit there and write a story as an author,
as a creepy pasta. All that said, I just want
to tell real stories, and I have an extensive network
of friends, so I started reaching out to all my friends.
Hey man, you ever had anything freak, you're weird, happened
to you? And they started flooding me, you know, I
mean flooding me with stories and things that happened to them,
girls talking about from stuff. My early content is like
robotic voices because I was just testing it out. But
that's some of the rays paranormal and just real life storytelling.
There is girls who fought off rapist, girls who were
rape guys, who had people come in the house in
the middle of the night, people who had guns pulled
on them, all that kind of stuff. And I was
testing the content to see what people would like. And
then I settled in on cryptids and started doing cryptis stuff.
Speaker 3: And then just.
Speaker 1: So so I don't mean I was gonna say, when
did you realize that New Orleans was special? Because here's
my outlook on it, as a guy from Pittsburgh that
listens to your stuff, and I've always had a fascination
with your city. I've always loved it I've always seen
the lore and you know, I even watched the episode.
There's this season of uh it was called the one
with there was that's on every year about American horror
story where they did the one about the coven and
the Coven of Witches was in New Orleans of all places,
and I was like, well, there's just so much magic
to your city. Is did you did you find did
that come on real fast? Did you? Or did you
already already always know that?
Speaker 2: Well, everybody down here knows. Everybody down here knows that
New Orleans is a place full of magic. So like
Hollywood and TV shows, they glorify things like the Lorenz
House and who Do and voodoo from like Hollywood perspectives,
But the real magic of New Orleans is not that
that's here. The magic that happens in New Orleans actually
is where you have people who are in their houses
practicing who doo and voodoo, So.
Speaker 3: It's not so much like they portray it.
Speaker 2: For example, there's a couple of really high voodoo practitioners
and who do practitioners here, But one of the biggest
who do practitioners like he was like they he was
a voodoo practitioner Vood the chief of voodoo.
Speaker 3: Priests down here.
Speaker 2: That guy didn't have a place, but he would go
in a graveyard and do rituals and do all kind
of stuff.
Speaker 3: Everybody knew about him. He was a martial artist.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a He was really high up
in there in the whole Hoodoo gang and the Voodoo gang.
So it's one of those things where in order to
understand New Orleans and understand magic, in order to understand
spiritual warfare, and in order to understand any of that,
people have to understand what dominion is and the spirits
that have dominion in New Orleans and the people who
worship the spirits that have dominion in New Orleans, how
those spirits got dominion and things of that nature. And
people don't understand that.
Speaker 1: What's that mean? If you don't mind me asking, I
love it. And does this have to go deal with
spiritual warfare?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: This is this is This is the basics of all
spiritual warfare, and it's the basics of all magic. It's
the basics of everything. So basically, dominion is what God
gave to man in the Book of Genesis and Genesis
one I think twenty six eight. If you go read,
you'll see where God created man and woman and he
gave them dominion over the earth and all the creepy
things and the files of that and told them be
fruitful and multiply. Right, So if you understand what dominion
is that man, me and you as human beings have
dominion over everything on this planet, then you can truly
get to understand what happens in spiritual warfare.
Speaker 3: Magic and spirit work. Right, So every.
Speaker 2: Every spirit that's in every realm, they have to function
in this planet through a person. So for example, we've
all seen the videos where there's these rappers and it's
the easiest thing is to say rappers, they're like, I
sold my soul to the devil, right, or I did
a deal with the devil. Yeah, they did do a
deal with the devil because they needed a spirit to
work with them in order to get their success. And
they made a sacrifice and they got the success they
want and they got the deal that they wanted. So
people have options. And if you have anybody who's in
your audience that knows about magic, they'll know I'm telling
the truth. They can work with a specific spirit, a
spirit of Lord Risha are In my case, I'm a Christian.
I work with God's Spirit, the Holy Spirit. So you
can choose whatever spirit you decide to work with. But
all spirits have to function on this planet through a person.
And so when you understand that, then you understand dominion
and you understand what true spiritual warfare is. And so
now let's circle back to New Orleans. The things that
go on in New Orleans. For example, let's take the
rituals that we do in New Orleans that most people
don't understand.
Speaker 3: Like every year we have Marti Gras.
Speaker 2: Right, if you were to take a moment and go
research the names of the crews of Martigras, Coomas, moments,
res Zulu, if you go back and really research those things,
they're all based on spirits. And so what essentially what
New Orleans does as a community every year is the
whole city and everybody from around the country comes down
and they participate in a gigantic ritual. They don't know
they're participating in a gigantic ritual, but they're participating in
a gigantic ritual. Therefore, those spirits have dominion over this city,
and you can see it in our city by the way,
the city is. If you've ever been in New Orleans,
you'll anybody who's ever come to New Orleans, they'll say, man,
I love going to New Orleans. I go down the
Bourbon Street, I get drunk, I do this, I do that,
I have fun. Blah blah blah blah. All my inhibitions
are gone. I just have so much fun when I'm
in New Orleans. They don't understand from a spiritual perspective
what's going on when you come in. So you'll have
a woman who's been married to a husband for twenty years,
never did anything wrong, coming to New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Chreet on a husband, right.
Speaker 2: You have a man who's been married to his wife
for three months, brand new marriage. Come down here while
I out go to strip clubs, do all kinds of stuff.
Because spiritually there's things that have dominion here. And if
you don't know what you walk again to, you walk
into those things. So that's the basics of it. So
when we start talking about that's the city. When we
start talking about the attitude of the people in the city.
If you listen to our jazz music, now, our second
line music, there are songs they say, don't start no stuff,
won't be no stuff, don't start no stuff, won't be
no stuff. That's second line music. Let's go get them
all kinds of songs.
Speaker 3: And if you're listening to me right now.
Speaker 1: When you get a chance, what about the old songs
that the one who went my grandma and your grandma sitting?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that like a paranormal? Does that have
paranormal intentions? Is that because they used it in a
movie and I think they tried to make it like
it was you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: No, So it's that's about. It's really my flag boy
and your flag boy are sitting by the by you.
My flag boy told your flag boy, I'm gonna set
your flag on fire talking about A and I A
not so basically the Marty Gars Indian cruise down here right,
which this is another thing people have thought staying about.
When I say spirits, they have dominion in the waters
right because there was huge cultural melting pot Africans, Europeans,
Native Americans, everybody married each other, everybody with their different
religious beliefs. You have black people down here who are
real Native American bloodlines.
Speaker 3: Right when you.
Speaker 2: Start talking about flag boys, spy boys things of the
nature that they talk about in that song. They are
literally talking about things from Native American culture when they
when those tribes went through water, they had a boy
who carried the flag. They had a spy boy who
went out and spied on the others, on the other tribes.
Speaker 3: Then they had the big chiefs. So if you watch
the second lines, real second lines in Marti Gras, like real,
not Marti Gral, real New Orleans second lines where they
come out in the streets, you'll see these guys in
these huge feathery outfits and it's big Chief from uptown
and there's big Chief from downtown, Big Chief from back
of town, front of town. They will march across the
sea city and meet each other and literally open up
these huge feathery They look like big old peacocks. It's beautiful, bro,
it's really beautiful.
Speaker 2: But it's paying homage to their old Native American traditions
and the Native American traditions in their bloodline. Now here's
where a lot of the violence in New Orleans come from.
And people don't understand this because there were so many,
so much, so much bloodshed in the city amongst Native Americans.
Speaker 3: The slave trade all this other stuff.
Speaker 2: Our streets are soaked with blood, and so the violence
is inherent in this city. It's one of those things
where it's like no, no, no, no, this city is violent.
Even when the city was devoid of people after Katrina,
when I was here working, there was still murders going on.
Speaker 3: It was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It was people coming out of town from out of
town murdering each other. Because the city has a spirit
of violence on it, right. So that's why you see
New Orleans the way it is now. Most people look
at New Orleans and they think of it as just
a good time city. But if you really want to
talk about what happens here, you have to understand when
you visit this place, what you're walking into. There are
people who I know who live here who say, James,
you know, or they moved out of the city. They'll say, James,
I have to drive to the city for work, and
when I crossed the line that leads me into Orleans Parish,
which is New Orleans is Orleans Parish, it feels different
than where I came from. And I tell them, yeah,
it is different because there's a different spirit that rests
in this city than Slide down or Covington or Mandeville,
all applies or baton rouge, and it's palpable. You can
feel it when you're here. You're on edge, you're paying attention,
like you know that something can pop off at any
point in time. And so that really stems from the
spirits that operate in the city. If you look at
what goes on around here, man, think about it. I
told you earlier that spirits work through people. Right now,
there's people who go out and they make deals with spirits.
So those are the ball players, the rappers who say,
you know, I'm gonna go make a deal with this
period and I'm gonna ask for this amount of money
blah blah blah. We see it all over Instagram right now.
Right then there's the average person bro who has no clue.
Right they're just running around living their life and they're
doing things and they end up engaging in activities that
invite spirits in. So you will have them do anything
from you know, the people who just have evil thoughts.
They'll be like sexual, moral and moral, like playing around
doing like sex toys, sex toy parties, run around doing
crazy stuff. They'll be thieves, they'll be murderers, which are
city is full of murderers, all the sins that you
can think of, adultry for on occasion, greed, wickedness, like
anything that you can dig up, lewdness for example. People
come to New Orleans every year, right, and.
Speaker 3: They have.
Speaker 2: They have this huge weekend. I forgot the name of it,
Decadence Festival. I don't know if you've ever heard of that.
Have you ever heard? Okay, So every year there's Decadence
Festival in New Orleans and you go down to the
French quarters doing Decadence Festival, and it's pure lewde activity.
It's just people walking around with the penises out, that
breast out, I mean just in the street. Because that's
a part of the spirituality of this city. It's a
part of the spirit that rules the city. And so
you see these things and what happens for the average
person who is not spiritually aware. They end up going
out and they're just doing stuff right, and then their
behavior attracts the spirit.
Speaker 3: Tell you a quick story.
Speaker 2: One of the guys I work with here on YouTube,
he had to move in with his brother in law.
Check this out. This is how crazy it is. So
his nephew's there and they're talking and he calls me.
He's like, yo, man, you know, we had a rack
of ribs we bought from the store, and the whole
rack of ribs is missing. So a rack of ribs
go missing one day. The next day, his cell phone
goes missing. The next day, some money goes missing. So
they all realize it's the nephew doing is stealing, so
they start hiding stuff from the nephew because they know
he's stealing. So he takes a computer, puts it under
the mattress, right, Actually, not under the mattress, he puts
it between the box spring and the headboard, right, So
it's stuck between the box, the box spring, and the headboard, which, bro,
you're not supposed to be able to find that, right. Well,
he leaves, comes back, his computer's gone, and we talk
and he said, yo, man, how in the hell does
this kid know where my computer is? And I say
because he has a spirit of theft on him. And
he was like, I don't understand that. Say let me
explain to you. So when you go out on.
Speaker 3: You yeah, when you go out in, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, that's so interesting that the spirits work
through people like that, like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3: It's all good. That's how but that's how it works.
Speaker 2: So if you go steal something one time, right, Let's
say me and you we go to the grocery store
and you know not they have the little candies at
the store where you can stick your hand in there
and get a candy.
Speaker 3: Is full the scoop it in the bucket.
Speaker 2: So let's say you and I going there one day
and we steal a candy and we eat it, right,
we decide that we was going to steal that. Now
every day you and I go to the same store,
and every day we steal a candy, right, and then
the next day, instead of stealing a candy, we steal
a candy bar. But we making these decisions at some
point in time, our activity of theft us continuing to
steal sends a signal out saying, hey, any spirit that
loves stevery, I'm stealing. And guess what, Because you open
yourself up to that, that spirit comes next thing. You know,
you start stealing and don't know why you're stealing, people
experience it easier. A better example that people will understand
is alcohol right, So you're drinking. Every alcoholics starts off
by taking one drink, right, They take another drink, they
take another drink, and they get to a point to
where they can't control. Then they can't stop drinking. Why
does that happen. I'll tell you why. Because at some
point in time, you've been given over to the spirit
of alcoholism, and so now you just drink them. People
don't even want to drink. They don't want to be drunk.
They don't like what's going on in their life. They
don't like how it's affecting their family. But they can't
help themselves. And how do they get fixed. They go
to Alcoholics Anonymous and they get a coin and they
commit to not drinking anymore. Not one sip of alcohol
can they take. And they have to have a partner
with them that says, okay, bro. They'll call hey man
two o'clock in the morning. Man, I'm thinking about having
a drink. I want to have a drink, And the
part is like, no, don't take a drink. I'm coming
over there with you. We're gonna get coffee. I'm gonna
keep you off this horse. You're not gonna drink. That's
because they're turned over to that spirit of alcoholism. And
so that's how it works.
Speaker 3: People get turned ye.
Speaker 1: Would you say that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Also, people could have a working put on them, And
I know you talk about this a lot. I think
they call it a working right, when someone puts magic
on someone that's causing them to display those behaviors. Could
be voodoo hoo dooo, And I'd love for you to
also get into the difference between voodoo and vodoo. But
could this be someone's got a working put on them
which causes them to behave a certain way as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can have a working put on it's a hex. Yeah,
you can have someone to hext you, but it's a
it's a it's a little more complicated than just someone
putting a working on you. So all right, we already
established in all conversations, right that every spirit works through people. Right,
So let's take the hex or the person that's putting
the hex on the person and then the person that's
being hext. These are two different individuals, right. What does
it take to put a hex on a person? And
what does that mean? Most people don't understand what it means, right,
Most people the person who's putting the hex on a person.
They have a very specific understanding of the spiritual realm.
They understand that everything works through a spirit. They also
and anybody who really practices, who do a voodoo, they
will tell you this. They understand that the spirit that
they're working with goes and launches a petition in heaven
against that person that they're trying to hex. Right, So
it goes up, literally leaves, goes to the course of
heaven and say, hey, Rob and Dog waters over here
talking bad about people, and they wronged me, and according
to spiritual laws, which those spiritual laws in the Bible,
according to spiritual laws, our petition to hext them and
do this to them. Right, So that's the initiation, the
petition of the hecks. On the back end, you and
I just going through our lives, but we have no
clue about how real spiritual warfare works and how spirits work.
So we're just going through our life handling our business.
Let's say you and I go to the strip club
and we see some nice girls and I'm like, yo,
we're gonna take these braws back to the hotel.
Speaker 3: We're gonna smash.
Speaker 2: Let's do it, and we do that every night, we
just racking up all these sins and all these wrongdoings
and all these wrongs. Well, guess what when that hex
is launched, that is a petition, and it's petitioning based
on your activity in life, So based on the sins
you did, based on what you did wrong, based on
what happened. It said, none of them know, I want
to curse him because he did this, this, this, this, this,
and so guess what. People don't understand this part. God,
the God says, because he's a judge. The God says, okay,
and that's how you get hext. Literally, that's how you
get hext. The God of all gods, the most high God,
and I ain't I'm talking about Jesus Christ. Some people
call him Jehovah Nissi, Jehovah shama, Jehovah uh shalom. That God,
the God, the judge Jehovah l Mishfat is sitting in
court while these petitions are launched. And because his word
stands and his rules stand, he says, okay, you can
touch that person in that area of their life and
then bam, that person's hext. That's how it works. So yes,
it can that can happen to a person, and it
happens to people all the time.
Speaker 1: And it's more prevalent down there, Like people put workings
on each other down there a lot, right, and they
even put workings on long distance people, right. And and
let me ask you this, This does the rule of
witchcraft where if you do something like a wrongdoing is someone,
if you heck someone, uh, does it really come back
on you times.
Speaker 3: Tex Yes, it's a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Like a heck saw a curse without a cause is
not gonna stick if the person knows what to do
to get it off of them. But if they if
that person is wrong to another person, like the person
who was hex casting the hecks has been wrong. They
got a Vali case, right, and then the comeback on
you ten times part it really that really works based
on the person who's being hexed either repenting if they're Christian, repenting,
then coming to Christ and pleading the blood of Jesus.
If there's someone who practiced magic, sending another spirit to
go argue with that spirit in the courts, and petition
for their own safety and their own well being. And
those are the two ways it gets resolved. Some people
call it cleansings, and some people do cleansings of their
bodies and themselves to make that they can turn things. So, yes,
that that definitely works that way. As far as to
for what was the other question you asked after that, Well.
Speaker 1: I can't remember where I was saying. Going with that,
I was we were talking about hack singing. Well, let
me ask you this, I'll switch this topic. What's the
difference between who do and voodoo? Because I've always been interested,
is it basically the same thing or as who do?
It is a little bit different.
Speaker 2: When you start talking about who doo and voodoo, they're
both believes from the same region of the world. One
of them is more of one of us, more of
the worship of old ancient African spirits. Some people call
it the Risha's the seven powers that a lot of
that goes into to voodoo. When you start going into
who doo, whodoo is a bit more complicated. If you
if you talk to real hodoo practitioners, if you talked
to anybody who knows anything about who doo, they say
who do is extremely deadly and extremely dangerous because who
do practitioners. Most who do practitioners proclaim to be Christians,
and they actually use what's called who do Bible magic,
which is basically the psalms of the Bible against their enemies.
So the difference on a surface level, because there's these
deeper levels and differences that because I haven't practiced them,
I don't want to even try and go into those
deeper levels. But on the surface level, that's more of
a difference. And then we start dealing with who doo,
you're really dealing with herbs and and things from the
ground and different names and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: The Louisiana version of the original African voodoo, would that
be a difference as well?
Speaker 3: Or as it's a it's a it's a blend.
Speaker 2: So it's who do is what came, It's what transpired
from when slaves came over to America and they started
adopting different things and blending it in, and so that's
where you get it. It's a blend of everything. But
if you, for example, if you talk to any pastor
here in New Orleans and you say, well, what's who do,
They'll say that is the most dangerous, vicious thing form
of magic that you can deal with. Because most people
down here in New Orleans. They practice who do? They
don't like. People think it's voodoo because voodoo is the
marketable name, right, But it's really who do that. People
down here practice more than anything, but voodoo is the
name that's really marketed. You know what I'm saying. It's
like voodoo fests, voodoo voodoo, but it's really who doo
that people are practicing in their houses. So you'll see
people going to a botanical store and buy, you know,
penis candles to cause there they're a lover who was
cheating on them, be in fertile, right, and but they'll
take that penis candle. They'll go read the Psalm of
the Bible over that candle and light it and it
will make that man infertile, right.
Speaker 1: They'll uh, never heard of the Bible being used for
vicious magic. That's that's it. That's wow. That's so interesting.
That's so interesting. Like you don't hear about that up here,
you know, you just don't like. That's what I'm That's
why I find it so interesting. I don't know if
that's just a New Orleans thing or if that's like
a if that's where it got its roots, and maybe
it's spread around the world. But what are your thoughts, like,
do you think that's mostly down where you're at, or
do you think that's all around the world.
Speaker 2: No, that's what hodu is, That's what a lot of
people using. That's what a lot of hodu practitioners do.
But you know, this is the crazy thing, right. I
have a lot of respect for anybody who has a
spiritual practice. Like most people don't understand the knowledge that
like a wickan or a witch or who do, or
a voodoo practitioner has they had. They're very knowledgeable about
the spirit realm, you know. And I tell people all
the time I'm in New Orleans. I know people who
are voodoo practitioners. I go to their conventions. We'll sit
down and talk and everything, and they're very, very knowledgeable.
The one thing I don't understand is with that knowledge,
they know what's going on.
Speaker 3: So let me walk you through something, right.
Speaker 2: So let's say I practice who do right, and I
want to do that same penis candles fell right, and
I go get the Psalm of the Bible.
Speaker 3: I like that. I read that psalm.
Speaker 2: I like that candle, which is petitioning the spirit to
go to heaven and tell God the God Jehovah el mishfact,
the judge.
Speaker 3: They's going to tell.
Speaker 2: God, Hey, this person chose me to represent them and
deal with their husband who was cheating on them and
cause infertility. You sent that to God. You sent an
evil spirit to God to represent you in court.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people really understand what that means.
I don't even I don't think they grasp I know,
the average who do like in home, who do practitioner
is not really grasping what they're doing now, the real deal.
The ones that will have a tree fall on your house.
Oh they know, Oh they know. I know, they know.
I've spoken to some of them. But the average person
who just wants power, they don't understand it. Because most
people who practice things they want power over an area
of their life that they can't change. They know that
there's a spiritual component to that change in their life.
So they know, Okay, if I haven't found the woman
that I want because I'm not good enough and I
don't have enough good enough mouthpiece, so I don't look
good enough, they know that there's a spiritual component that
can fix that problem.
Speaker 3: Right, They know without a doubt.
Speaker 2: So that's why you have like New Orleans is full
of botanicals where you can go buy candles by this they.
Speaker 3: Say, oh, I need more money.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go buy a cash candle, right, and they're
gonna take that cash candle. They're gonna get the psalm
over it, and they gonna get some money. But I
don't think they completely understand what they're doing. And darn
is the problem I see with people. Now, as far
as I'm gonna sn you make your own decisions. Do
whatever you want to do. That is your life. That's
your life, that's your soul, that's your eternity. Man handled
it whatever however you want to handle it. But nobody
really discusses what actually happens. I don't know if because
nobody has the balls to discuss it, or if it's
because nobody knows. But nobody really talks about what happens
when you do that. And so imagine me and you
doing that. And we sent a spirit to God's court
to petition God to actually do something. All behalf from
an evil spirit. So we took God's word, perverted it
and using a perverted way, bro the consequences and repercussions
of that are monumental.
Speaker 3: Monumental.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's going to have some kind of karmic
effect in the long runs.
Speaker 2: What you're saying in carmick effect, that's what damns you.
The hell ain't no karmic effect. The karma is now
you made a decision. Now you may not, you may
be ignorant of that decision. But the law is the law.
You know what I'm saying. The reason why the hexes
work is because it's the law. Right, The law is
the law. So just like that hexer can use the
law to hext you, just like you can use the
law to defend you from somebody hexing you.
Speaker 3: The law is the law. It's like me and you.
Speaker 2: Let's say you and I ride down the street and
we didn't know the speed limit was seventy five miles
an hour. We were on the highway right a few
seconds ago it was seventy five.
Speaker 3: It just changed.
Speaker 2: We went through a construction zone. We didn't notice the
speed limit dropped the fifty five right. Police pull us over. Well, man,
you was doing seventy five and a fifty five man,
I didn't know. We ain't getting out that ticket. He
writing us that ticket, right, that's how it works. That's
how it works.
Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing. Like you never never hear about like
that is in the in the real world, like as
far as like what the innergoing is a magic? And
I wanted to ask you this, what about people who
summon like the the voodoo vodo spirits, like for example,
like I had a friend who he was really interested
in voodoo one time, and he was telling me about
that the people summoned like Papa Legba. And I'm sure
you've heard of him living where you are, Like that's
in uh in that kind of lore. In voodoo lore,
there's a character, one of the spirits named Papa Legba,
and he'll come and if you leave him out something
or I don't know what exactly you have to do.
I didn't look into it enough. But you can do
things where he will come and he will perform tasks
for you, like right like or did things that he'll
grant you certain things. Now does he petition? How does
that work?
Speaker 3: Pa?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a story about that to make a
point to you. This happened at Oklahoma last month. This
guy's a close friend of mine. He comes, he's leaving
work and this girl comes in her Right about the
time he's about to get off work. This girl comes
in and says, hey, I want to hang out with you.
Can we hang out? He says sure, but he says
where do you want to go? She's like, well, I
just want to go somewhere private. He says, no, no, no, no,
I'm not doing that. I'll tell you what. I got
to wash clothes. Come with me to the washing terrier
and let's hang out and talk. So they go to
the washingterier and they go to hang out and talk,
get through Washington folds and the clothes. She helps him
full all the clothes and then he says, well, look,
I'm gonna drop you off at home and you know,
we'll catch up later. So they're driving home and she says, well,
I don't want to go home, and he says, well,
why don't you want to go home? She says, well,
I don't want to go home because I don't want
to be in that house. So why don't you want
to be in the house. At this point in time,
they pull it up to the apartment complex. This guy
has a gift from God where he can discern spirits
on people, and he says what's inside that apartment? And
he points out her apartment. He points to the door,
what's in that apartment? And she says, how do you
know which room? I'm what door is mine? He says,
what's in that apartment? She says, well, I don't want
to go in there. And then all of a sudden,
she says, I got to stop talking to you because
this is going to cause major problems. He says, no,
that's not how that's gonna work. You're gonna tell me
what's going on. She tells him that her boyfriend. Her
boyfriend works with pap Alegba, and so she says, well,
you know, every morning he wakes up and he drinks
coffee with pop Alecba and he leaves him tobacco, and
some days he smokes cigars with pop Alegba and drinks coffee.
Speaker 3: And so my friend is sitting there.
Speaker 2: He says, oh really yeah, He says, so why did
you come to me tonight? He asks a gerzy, why
did you come to me tonight? She said, I don't know.
I just something told me to come and hang out
with you. He says, why do you think you came
to He already knows I already knew when he was
telling me the story. He says, why do you think
you came to me? She says, maybe I need help.
He says, well, I'll pray for you. So he starts
to pray with the girl, and she says, well, you
could pray for me, but I'm not gonna pray with.
Speaker 3: You because it's going to cost so many problems.
Speaker 2: Then in the middle of him praying, she says, my
boyfriend's on the way home, and he says, I know,
and he's mad, and he tells her he said, listen,
if you want out of that apartment, you're gonna have
to get him out of there because he works with
Papa Legba, so therefore he has control over you. Well,
he lets her go up into the apartment. Twenty minutes later,
he hadn't even made it home. She calls him, and
this is his exact words. She says, who has been
in this apartment? And she says, nobody's been in here.
He tells the girls again, tells the girl again who
has been in here? She says, nobody's been here. Then
he says, whose spirit came in here? And she gets quiet,
and so she's telling him this over the because she's
gonna step away from a boyfriend, and she's like, I
don't know what to do. He's threatening to beat me
and do this and this and this and this, and
he was like, look, either you're gonna leave that situation
or you're gonna stay in that situation. But that's a
choice that you're making until the guy ends up beating
a girl up that night and all the rest of
this crazy stuff. Now here's the crazy thing. Doing that
conversation in the car before he prayed for her, she
told him that the guy had multiple girlfriends, like six
girlfriends around the area, right, and that the guy had
set up six altars in six different places around the area.
Speaker 3: To Papa Legba.
Speaker 2: This brings me to my next point of true spiritual warfare,
and most people don't understand this. True spiritual warfare happens
when an altar of God, an alter God, can be
a person. It could be a church, it could be
a business. If I had a car washing business that
was dedicated to Jesus Christ and my call and I
literally so my van that I washed cars out of,
like details is dedicated to Jesus Christ. And I drive
up into that parking lot of that place where Papa Legba,
that the same apartment complex with that alta Papa Elegba is.
There's angels coming out of my van. There's Papa Legaba
spirit and his spirits coming out of that apartment. That's
what true spiritual warfare is. And people don't understand that
because they've never studied it. If you go back and here,
look in the Bible, they talk about Jacob's ladder when
Jacob fell asleep in the desert and he had a
dream about a ladder and he saw a ladder with
angels going up and down where he fell asleep at
wasn't altar. That altar was a place where angels, trance like,
came through a portal to function in this realm. Remember
I said, spirits gotta work through people, right, Angels work
with people. So this is a place where angels was
coming through, and so true spiritual warfare. Hold on, somebody
is doing something. How many people in your chat right now?
Speaker 1: I didn't even look. Let me stay, there's six people
watching right now, not a lot. There's like.
Speaker 2: Somebody's doing something, all right, whoever's doing that or whoever's
doing that, go ahead and stop, because I'm not here
to I'm not here to offend or hurd of harm anybody,
but somebody's doing something anyway. True spiritual warfare is where
it's happens when those altars collide. So, for example, I
give you a perfect example of it. If you were
to come here to New Orleans and hang out with me,
and I let this agard and took you and put
you in my car, and you really rode around real
New Orleans, not downtown I Bourbon Street. We went to
the hood. You would see a liquor store, you would
see a you would see a church. Then you would
see a a CBD or marijuana distributors store dispensary, and
then you will see a church. You would see a
strip club around a corner from a church. So what
true spiritual warfare is when those two different altars are
in direct competition for souls in that area. And so
that's what real spiritual warfare is. People think that spiritual
warfare is just praying. That's an aspect of it, But
there's another aspect of it that that's about territory. And
because all spirits have to work through a person, the
people are the actual territory.
Speaker 3: So you and I brother, are territory because if.
Speaker 1: The spirits are secretly fighting through us, like even wars
like you can take it to a political level, right like,
wars are probably thought spirits, I mean spirits like our
physical wars that are following this planet. Are those spirits
making those leaders go to war and stuff like that?
Speaker 2: I would dare to say yes, think about it. Think
about it. So if every spirit has to work through
a person, right and and something needs to be done,
it's whoever has the most people working with them pretty
much wins the ill give it a perfect example. We
went through the whole virus phase. I don't want to
get you flagged. I'm just gonna see the virus phase.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: What was the one thing that got shut down doing
that whole virus phase? The one spiritual aspect thing that
got shut down from it?
Speaker 3: What got shut up?
Speaker 1: A church?
Speaker 2: You couldn't go to a church, You couldn't go to
a synagogue, you couldn't go to a mosque. You couldn't
go to any of those. Right, But where could you go?
You could go to You can go to walmartin by liquor,
you can go to a liquor store. Bro I knew
strip clubs that was open when churches was closed. So
when you start talking about spiritual warfare, one set of
altars are closed. The other set of altars are open
where people can go out and do things. And then
people wonder why things went downhill after that virus hit.
They wonder why, well, why did things get bad? Why
did crime get bad? Why did this get bad? Bro,
you had a certain set of altars, things got out
of balance, so far out of balance for it had
to be for what a year and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So but there was one set of things
ruling where people didn't have like, you know, the regular
outlets to go to to you know, room to pray
or even even practice spirituality in any kind of way
like So that that that does make a lot of sense,
Like I never really thought of that.
Speaker 3: But let's go a little bit deeper. Watch this.
Speaker 2: There was a pastor in Louisiana they tried to arrest
for having church. There was pastor Rodney something in Florida
that they tried to arrest for having church. There was
a pastor in Canada that they arrested, sent a swat
team to his church to shut them down, and they
were having church. In a parking lot. Ask yourself a question,
why in the world would you arrest a pastor? What
would motivate somebody in city government or state government.
Speaker 3: To arrest a pastor a pastor? Who? What?
Speaker 2: What motivates a person to do that? Really think about it.
What motivates a person to do that? And never in
my never in my you know, in my lifetime, when
I imagine that somebody would say, Okay, I'm going to arrest
a preacher for having church, how far did the scales
tip that you got to that point and see people
saw it happening, but they didn't understand it.
Speaker 3: They really didn't.
Speaker 2: And that's what it is. Bro, That's what true spiritual
warfare is. You know what I'm saying. I'll tell you
another story. So these are some of the things that
I've come to conclusions about learning from the stories that
I get from real people. There's this guy and his
wife came down in New Orleans, right, They come down here,
hang out on Bourbon Street. His wife gets drunk. Then
they go to the Final Call. Nope, that's not the
Porter Call is the name of the restaurant. They go
to Porter Call and get the Uma Homer. It huge drink.
Bro drink so big you gotta hold it in two hands.
Wife gets sloppy drunk, can't barely walk. Takes her back
to the air andbnb that they're staying in. Right, hanging
out on the airbnb. She passes out, goes to sleep
in the bed. He was horning his vacation. He thinking
he about to slap cheaps with his wife because we
on vacation, right, gets angry.
Speaker 3: She goes to bed. He's staying up all night.
Speaker 2: Finally falls asleep, wakes up to his wife moaning like
somebody's having sex with him.
Speaker 3: Hops up, turns on the light, sees this black.
Speaker 2: Mass, like black smoky masks leaving from like by his
wife's leg which is exposed out the cover and going
back into this grate in the floor. Because in New
wallans used to have these floor fans instead of air conditions.
They had these gigantic fans that they put in the
floor and it would suck cool and cooling cool air
in from the ground and pumping into the house. Right,
So he sees this, freaks completely out, tells me he's like, yo, James,
this freaked me out. I didn't know what the hell
was going on, stays up all freaking night. Next morning,
his wife wakes up to taking a brunch and she says, well, baby,
why were you having sex with me last night while
I was drunk? He says, I didn't have sex with you, right,
And so we're talking and he says, man, you know
why did that happen? So I can tell you why,
I said, but you're gonna be embarrassed. And he says,
well tell me. I said, I got to ask you
a personal question. I said, what kind of sexual practice
do you and your wife have when you guys are
at home? He said, man, that's too personal. I said, well,
you want to answer to your question. And so he says, well,
you know we every now and then, we use sex toys, we.
Speaker 3: Do this, we do that. Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I said, you're human people do that. I said, but
tell me about your house. Tell me about what's going on.
Do you guys go to church? He said, yeah, you
know I go to church all the time. You know,
I pray in my house. I said, okay. I said,
so when you came to New Orleans, did you pray?
He said no, Man, she was too drunk.
Speaker 3: Da da dah. I said, let me tell you what happened.
Speaker 2: I said, Yo, you in your wife's behavior, sent the
signal out that to spirits that okay, no, we like
to have do this type of sex, right, I said.
You come to New Orleans a spirit that's ruled by
those kinds of things, and you just so happened to
go into a house that had one. And I said,
it took advantage of what was there and it had
sex with your wife.
Speaker 3: He's like, that can't be possible. That's not how that happened.
Blah blah blah blah blah. He said, Bro, that's what
it is. I said.
Speaker 2: If you don't believe and take it back there again,
it's gonna happen again. Well, how do I fix it?
I said, Bro, I'm gonna be real with you. Just
apologize to God, repent and acts it not to happen again.
He says, man, that's it's that easy. I said, yeah,
it's that easy. I said, but you're gonna have to
stop doing that if you don't want to open the
door to it. And people've heard about this spiritual spouses,
you know.
Speaker 3: Spiritual husband's spiritual wives.
Speaker 2: And finally he started reading about it, and then he
called me back, and he says, dark, I want to
tell you something, Bro. This happened years ago, he says, Bro,
I want to tell you something.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Thank you, he said, because I didn't know what we
were doing. I said, I know you didn't know, Bro,
I said, most people don't know. They don't understand. If
they understood the things that they were doing, wasn't doing them.
But they just don't understand it.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: So since they don't understand, they just living life, having fun.
They don't understand the spiritual consequences of what they do,
and they're in lines of problem.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: We start talking about like demonic spirits and evil spirits
and things of that nature. They have one objective, Bro,
and it's crazy. That's to still kill and destroy. And
anybody who wants anybody who's saying, oh, he don't know
what he's talking about, open the Bible. I think it's
first Peter five eight, and then open the Bible to
John ten. Ten explains to you exactly what it is.
And in his case, I told him, I said, Bro,
so why did it happen? What was the objective of that?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Because now I've gotten to the point where I've been
in the paranormal feel for so long. When I talk
to people, I really want to know why is happening
and what was the purpose of it happening. I'm beyond
the scary story. But this is how come my stories
are so good because I know why it happened, and
then I can tell you why it happened without telling
you right, and why did it happen?
Speaker 3: Because think about it.
Speaker 2: God made marriage for a man and woman so they
could have sex and not fornicate right and not break
his law. So marriage is a gift from God between
woman and man. Okay, So if there's a spirit that
fell or hates God and it has an opportunity to
go steal a gift from God, what does it do?
It goes and takes that and you silly enough, are
ignorant enough, are evil enough? Some people are ignorant they
don't know what they're doing. Some people kind of know
what they're doing, they're just being silly. Some people just evil.
But you evil enough one of those three options to
allow it to happen, and boom it happens. And so
you talk to people in the paranormal community. All over
the paranormal community, there's people who when they go to
bed at night, you know, they have nasty dreams, feel
like stuff is touching them. There's women who have orgasms
at night in the bed, don't know why. There's men
who go to bed at night and wake up and
having wet dreams, Like, man, why am I having wet dreams?
They don't understand these are the things that are going on.
I notice because I talk to those people. You know
what I'm saying, So you get to understand this thing.
Speaker 1: Is that the same thing as aubist?
Speaker 3: Exactly? Yep?
Speaker 2: But we call them but see we talk, Oh, that
person has an incubus, they had a succubist. No, that's
a spiritual husband or spiritual wife. Why is that incubist
a cucubist? Why do they have the right to even
do that to you? For example, let's talk about pornography.
Real cool, we talk about real spiritual warfare, real adult things. Right,
let's talk about pornography. This is what happens to people
when they look at pornography. And I'm they happened to
me and I had to I was like, God, you
got to help me with this. This don't make no sense.
You start off, let's say in my case, I like
lipstick lesbians. Right, I'm watching me some lick STIPs, like,
oh they so poor? I love this right this next thing,
you know, you done went to something worse. Next thing,
you know, you done went to something worse. Then you
get to the point you're like, man, what the hell
am I looking at?
Speaker 3: Right? This is crazy? You don't understand what you're doing.
Speaker 2: You sitting there allowing a spirit to take you down
a rabbit hole and trying to get you you to
a point to where you're completely and totally corrupted. That's
why you don't need to look at pornography, you know
what I'm saying. There was a friend of mine, this
was three years ago, married, happy marriage, start looking at
pornography and then he started feeling really insecure about himself,
start having infertility. And he was like, man, pro you
know my junk won't work. I said, well, what you've
been doing, homie? You sitting there smoking cigars Da da
da dah.
Speaker 3: He just talking. You know, I take these pills. It's
still not working. I'm doing this. It's not working like
with what you've been doing.
Speaker 2: Man, you know I'll be looking at that porn I said, okay,
So you're being infertile now, right. It's like, yeah, I said,
why don't you turn the poem off and apologize looking
at the poem because whatever you're watching, it's making you
infertile because it's lead you in a direction to where
you want a certain thing. And I said, Bro, I'm
gonna be real with you. I said, it's not that
you're infertile, it's just it takes something more extreme to
turn you on. Now, I said, So it started off
with you like live stick lesbians, and that turns you on.
Speaker 3: But that ain't good enough. Now it's something stupid that
turns you on. Right.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, bro, it's ridiculous. I'm embarrassed to talk
about it. I said, yeah, because you went down that road.
So now you're at a point where it's something that's
almost the meaning that turns you on.
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, bro, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, so guess what you need to go
apologize bro, and get that together. A month later, we
hang it out again and he's like, man, I got
all my inches working again.
Speaker 3: Don't thank you.
Speaker 2: Every inch is working away it's supposed to. We just
laughing and joke and he's like, thank you. But people
don't understand these things.
Speaker 3: This is true spiritual warfare.
Speaker 2: It's it's most people think it's praying because something's touched
you in the bed that night.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to pray, but you need to know
why it has the why it can touch you.
Speaker 3: You need to go fix the reason why it can
touch you.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'll tell you something about
me and we'll talk about the spirit of fear. When
I first started doing the whole dog Waters thing, and
I call it dult Orders thing because my real name
is James Williams, I was living in the house on
twenty seven oh six Robber Street. I have this spell
rob where I can't sleep because there's literally something When
I close my eyes, it's like something grabs my spine
and pricks it, like it's like a guitar string going
up and down my spine. I'm scared to sleep with
my bag out the cover. I'm sleeping with my back
against the headboard. I'm like, what the hell is going on?
This is crazy, right, I didn't understand it for years,
years and years. I talked to my girl head they
boded me and Heather real cool.
Speaker 3: I mess. Heather, she was a good person. I talked
to her about it. I talked a whole.
Speaker 2: Bunch of people about it, and still nobody can explaining
to me.
Speaker 3: Then one day.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there read my Bible and this is after
I did like all these deliverance prayers to get that
stuff to stop because it was crazy bros. Shadows walking
around the house, all kind of ignorant stuff. And God
tells me, do you want to know what was going on?
I say absolutely. He says, you were being turned over
to a spirit of fear. I didn't give you a
spirit of fear. I gave you a spirit of power,
love and a sound mind. The spirit of fear prohibits
you from getting all my protection and everything else associated
with me. And it's crazy, bro, because if you understand
what it means, like most people don't get it. Psalms.
I'm trying to think of them. Psalms. Psalms twenty five right,
Psalms thirty three, I think eighteen Psalms forty three seven.
One of them talks about the secret of the Lord
is with those who fear him. The other one talks
about behold the eye of the Lord is on those
who fear him. Another one talks about the Angel of
the Lord a campits encamps around those who fear him.
Speaker 3: So, if I'm so busy being.
Speaker 2: Afraid of whatever's spirit, the shadow Man, the dog man, Bigfoot,
what am I giving up? Because I'm more afraid of
that than I am a god. I give all his promises,
all his protection, and bro, that's what happens to people.
Speaker 3: There was this.
Speaker 2: Video that came out with my man Blue down in Florida,
his dog man incounter.
Speaker 3: Right. It was. I don't know if you've seen it.
Speaker 2: It'still a dog man runs across the yard and there's
this big old pole.
Speaker 3: And you see the dog man run across the screen.
Speaker 1: No, I haven't seen that yet.
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it real?
Speaker 3: I mean what you say, Oh, that's one hundred percent real, Bro,
that's one hundred percent real.
Speaker 2: That whole neighborhood went under fear, so much so that
they had extra police patrolling. People weren't going outside that night.
For like three months, the whole neighborhood went under fear.
Blue himself was the only person who didn't give into
a spirit of fear because Blue was and it wasn't
because he was like the most godly clean, unsinning person.
It's just because Blue said, I never forget were on
the phone. He says, Man, you know what, I'm not
gonna worry about that. They gonna that's they love every
over there. They're gonna do what they do. I'm gonna
do what I do. But everybody else was scared to
go outside that night. Bro, this dude gonna do what
he need to do handle this business. But he and
he never had any problems with it attacking him. I
get this three doors down some other people. It came
up and was literally scratching on their front door and
looking through that window. So what's the difference between those
two households? Blue wasn't afraid. They were afraid. And that
literally was it. And if you go back and watch
the video with Blue, it's on my YouTube channel. When
he closes the door, he said, he starts quoting scripture.
He says, song twenty three yeay do I walk through
the valley of the shadow or death? I should fear
no evil. Then he stops and he says, whoo am
I seeing this? Did y'all see that?
Speaker 3: Da da da da da da da.
Speaker 2: And when he and I are talking and I'm like, bro,
you don't realize what you did. And I said, and
I broke it down to him and it took him
like a year to admit it to me.
Speaker 3: I said, Bro, you don't understand what you did.
Speaker 2: You had God's word in your heart when you were afraid,
just some unconsciously you called on God and you were protected.
And I said, you haven't had any problems.
Speaker 3: He's like, nah, bruh.
Speaker 2: He said, I had to come look in the window
one time, but he said it never bothered me. And
I said, but your neighbors somebody wanted some of your
neighbors had to come in try and come to their house.
And he's like, yeah, the shore did. So that's the
true reality of spiritual warfare. Like another thing, my producer, right, Wes,
you talked to West, You emailed Wes back and forth.
Speaker 3: Wes is a good guy.
Speaker 2: For the longest, Bro Wes was having problems sleeping, Like
he would go to sleep, would have dreams that demons
were attacking him, that monsters were trying to get him,
clowns with knives, crazy stuff, I mean, just crazy stuff
in his dreams.
Speaker 3: And finally he started talking about it and he got
some help.
Speaker 2: And he learned what was going on, and I told him,
I said, Wes, here's what the deal is. I said,
God promise you, promises you rest. He promises you two things,
peace and rest right. Jesus Christ is the prince of peace.
And then in the Psalms it talks about I will
rest in peace because my Lord makes me to I
will lie down to sleep because my Lord makes me
rest in peace right. And so I was like West,
when you're having bad dreams like that which a lot
of people in the paranormal field have. Our community have,
is because something's attacking their peace right, peace of mind.
So you can't sleep, But think about it, Rob, what
are the side effects of sleep deprivation. They're very, very extensive.
Heart disease, diabetes, cognitive issues where you can't remember things,
poor decision making, I said, weight loss. It's a lot
of things that happen when you sleep deprived. So, and
I told you these things. Objectives are to still kill
and destroyer, right, So if it's affecting your sleep, it's
affecting your body, and it's taking years off your life
and you're literally dying. So a way of killing you
is affecting your sleep. So Wes had to do some
things to get his sleep back in order. Now I'll
call him.
Speaker 3: What's what you're doing? I slept like a rocket. Was fantastic.
I love it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Boom a dune deal. That's the true essence
of spiritual warfare. That's what happens in spiritual warfare. And
so when you hear these stories on my channel, what
you're hearing is the art.
Speaker 3: Of spiritual warfare.
Speaker 2: You are literally hearing what's happening to people that spiritual warfare,
whether it be somebody who had a bigfoot sighting and
they got afraid, somebody who saw a big foot in
their house, somebody who had a shadow man in their house,
somebody who saw a monster, I mean something with red eyes.
Like just recently in Oklahoma, one of the biggest battles
that I know that's going on. There's a neighborhood and
outside of art More, Oklahoma. Bro imagine the neighborhood with
twelve houses on one street and the entire neighborhood at
night are seeing short black shadows with green eyes, the
entire neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's insane, Like it said, since wild,
you know, like I can't even imagine, like, you know, like.
Speaker 2: The entire freaking neighborhood bro so much so that one
of the guys who used to live there, he talked
about why he sold his house. He said, Man, I
sold my house because the land didn't like me, and
there were things coming in my house at night with
green eyes. But this is Native American land. And the
one of the significant things when we talked about dominion earlier, right, yeah,
one of the significant things that happened in Oklahoma that
Joe Biden did. I'm not gonna say nothing negative because
people get all up in their arms about politics, but
I will say I don't have nothing positive say. One
of the things that he did was they turned the
territories of Oklahoma that were used to be controlled by
the United States, the lands, the lands that were owned
by the United States, they gave it back to the
Native American tribes. Right, So essentially, what you did was
you gave that land back to the Native American tribes
who have a different set of gods, and you gave
dominion over that land to those spirits.
Speaker 3: But then you have people who live on that land.
Speaker 2: So there's people who've been living in houses that have
never had any kind of negative activity, but over the
past twelve months they had all kind of negative activity. Bro,
you see what I'm saying. So that's what true spiritual
warf is.
Speaker 1: My brother, Wow, that's interesting. That that's so interesting, Like
it really is. Uh, it's really like a battle for
the soul, right, I mean they could conclude everything up.
I guess it's a battle for the soul in the end.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a battle for the soul. And it's a
battle for battle for the soul, and it's a battle
for people, for spirits to work through in order to
affect other people. Remember the movie The Matrix, right Agent Smith.
Remember how when Agent Smith needed to they were going
after Neo, and Neo would be like riding on the
highway and the fighting boom boom, boom boom, and he'll
get away and then Agent Smith will hop into another
body of somebody driving a truck and then ram the
truck into him. Agent Smith is a pure example of like,
if you look at it the right way, you see
a spirit taking over territory needed to accomplish a goal.
So Neo got away, You ain't getting away. I got
somebody over here. I can take over. Oh you over here,
I got somebody over here I can take over. And
so it shows you what it means by what territory
is as far as human beings being actual territory. And
that's what we're dealing with when we deal with spiritual warfare.
People don't talk about it like this, bro, I think
because when you talk about things like this, you draw attention.
I know I draw attention. I can feel it, but
I ain't worried about it. You draw attention when you
talk about things like this because this is how people's
souls get saved and their lives get changed because they
get this understanding.
Speaker 3: So, but it needs to be talked about.
Speaker 1: I hope we change some people's thoughts on ideas. I
know you changed my whod perspective on the way the
way I look at like spiritual warfare now like it's
it's interesting, like to think that spirits worked through people.
And let me ask you this as one more final thing,
And this is the last thing I promise, because I
know you're very busy, but I just want to ask you,
are the spirits working through humans because they miss what
it's like to be human? Or or do they want
to be human again too, or do they just want
to destroy humanity.
Speaker 2: Some of them are working through humans because they miss
what it is to be human. But their overall objective
and goal is to destroy humanity. That's just their objective
and goal. And if just for the record, because somebody
will say, well, dark Waters doesn't know what he's talking about, right,
just for the record, if you go look at the
story of Jesus and the Demon of the Gatherings, where
Jesus confronted Legion, there was a man in a cave.
Speaker 3: He was chained down.
Speaker 2: They said he was breaking all of his chains, and
he would take rocks and he would cut themselves and
cut his body. And when Jesus walked up, they knew
who Jesus was, and they said, have you come here
to torture us before our time? If you really read
that story closely and listen to what those demons said,
they said, cast us out into the swine. Don't just
cast us out, cast us out into the swine. That's
a very significant thing. They petitioned Jesus, who's god walking
on earth, to cast.
Speaker 3: Them in the swine. What did they know and what
were they saying and what did it mean?
Speaker 2: It meant that if there was a person in the
vicinity that they could have just hopped out and ran into,
they would have hopped out and ran into that person.
And right, I'm gonna leave out of this man. I'm
gonna go on this man over here. So the real
question is the man that was.
Speaker 3: In that cave.
Speaker 2: How long had they been maneuvering him in position to
where they could possess him, What had he been doing,
what kind of practices he had he had in his
life to where he could be possessed by those things.
And that's the key that people need to understand. Your
behaviors open doors for things like that to happen. And
so if you monitor your behaviors, going back to the
whole thing about alcoholism and theft that we talked about earlier,
if you monitor your behaviors, you can prevent a lot
of this stuff.
Speaker 3: But most people don't know to prevent it. But they
chose to go in pigs.
Speaker 2: The reason why they wanted to go on those pigs,
I believe was because they had a territory they was
over and they didn't want him just to throw them
all the way to the other side of the earth
because he could have said, let's go in these pigs, right,
and then the pigs ran off the cliff and died.
So that being said, Bro, I mean that's real talk
on spiritual warfare combined with stories.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was cool. If you want to tell everybody
where they can find your YouTube, where they can find
your website, all that stuff, And thank you by the way,
I appreciate it. This was an interesting, very interesting show.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: No, you're morning welcome. I am Dogwaters dot com. It's
my website.
Speaker 2: Dogmenencounters dot Com is one of my website's paranormal outlaws.
Dark Orders Radio is a radio station and you can
find me on YouTube under dark Waters. Just type in
dark Water channel pop up on YouTube. A whole bunch
of stories, and I want people to understand like people
for years Broad been accusing, Oh, you make these stories up, Bro,
My stories are real, and it's real stories from real
people who've had like these crazy, horrific encounters. And the
reason why the content is so good is because these
elements are what I lay out on the table. I
don't always talk about them in depth, but I lay
out all the evidence on the table for you.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's all right there in
front of you.
Speaker 2: If you underst saying what you're listening to, you'd be like, WHOA,
this dude is really breaking it down. Now that I'm
telling people this, there's some people gonna go back and
listen to be like, holy crap, he told us all
this stuff without telling it to us. But now it's time.
Why I gotta start telling people. So I'm happy that
you had me on to do this interview and talk
about it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, thank you and uh yeah and uh
I appreciate it and I have to do it again
sometimes that thank.
Speaker 2: You anytime you want, bro, That's what I love doing.
I love talking to people, man, anytime