Speaker 1: From that before he got too over overheated.
Speaker 2: So is Lucas Cage.
Speaker 1: Is he an agnostic or what's his I'm not sure
Speaker 1: because I think the last time he called in he
Speaker 1: was saying that he was open to like Buddhist ideas,
Speaker 1: but he maybe I'm not sure, but he does have
Speaker 1: a pretty large Twitter presence, and he's, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of made a name for being very opposed to Zionism
Speaker 1: and Intalmudism, et cetera. So he's got a large audience
Speaker 1: from that. And then he's called in a few times
Speaker 1: and we've had some good discussions about religion and metaphysics,
Speaker 1: and so I think he's been listening to what we
Speaker 1: talk about because you know, he's he's trying to understand
Speaker 1: justification and tag and all that.
Speaker 3: Anyway, so let's go over to Jeff Stein.
Speaker 1: Real quick recap of the first twenty minutes, which was
Speaker 1: really revealing because Jeff Stein says that he was recruited
Speaker 1: into Trilateral by David Rockefeller, and he mentions the Kissinger family.
Speaker 1: He mentions I don't think he mentions Brazenski, but originally Kissinger
Speaker 1: created the Trial Adroar Commission under David Rockefeller as a
Speaker 1: steering committee specifically for Brazenski.
Speaker 3: So let's listen to this recap of that.
Speaker 4: Finance, which was at the time when DLL or become
Speaker 4: the donor sponsor, however you want to say it for
Speaker 4: what was considered the most cutting edge group of men.
Speaker 1: By the way, we will break up some of this
Speaker 1: by taking calls. If you want to call in and
Speaker 1: you want to talk about the previous topics, you're welcome to.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna just talk justin McCaffrey. You can call
Speaker 1: in about whatever you want and we'll kind of space
Speaker 1: it together between the video Epstein stuff because it's gonna
Speaker 1: get a little technical and dry, but it's relevant because
Speaker 1: not only does it talk about like global elite stuff,
Speaker 1: he also gets into the domain of geopolitics and metaphysics.
Speaker 1: So he's going to get into the relationship between mysticism
Speaker 1: and technology, cabbalistic elements, et cetera.
Speaker 4: Mathematicians in the world.
Speaker 5: Actually, so Santa Fe Institute in the late eighties early nineties,
Speaker 5: I was interested. I was on the border Rockefeller. So
Speaker 5: that starts Rockefeller at University, formed.
Speaker 4: By John D.
Speaker 5: Rockefeller to sort of give back to the community east
Speaker 5: side of Manhattan, except it was old It was sort
Speaker 5: of old fashioned. They were talking about medicine, and medicine
Speaker 5: by itself was again subject to the ideas of science.
Speaker 5: They were trying to find use science to find cures
Speaker 5: for disease. And I said, no, we need to do
Speaker 5: something different. We need to start interdisciplinary work in most.
Speaker 4: Schmuck like you get on the border Rockefeller.
Speaker 5: What year was that, I don't remember late I think
Speaker 5: eighty nine and ninety one.
Speaker 4: So that's some one of the most prestigious research places
Speaker 4: in the world. Correct, yes, okay, How did a guy
Speaker 4: like you get on the board of rock a blue blood,
Speaker 4: internationally known, internationally known hard research, Nobel Prize winners all
Speaker 4: over the place. How did they pick a guy like you?
Speaker 1: I like this idea, sexy spy music in the background
Speaker 1: with Jeff Stain McCaffrey talking to help us pass the
Speaker 1: time and get through it.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: I do a trader basically some guy from bear Sons.
Speaker 5: Good question. So I was asked to be on the
Speaker 5: border of Rockefeller, and I think it was I was
Speaker 5: on the bard of Rockefeller. There was a money manager
Speaker 5: who said, Rockefeller needs someone with financial expertise because the
Speaker 5: university is growing and there's lots of new things you
Speaker 5: have to Again, we go back to the original discussion
Speaker 5: of the last time. Up until the mid eighties or
Speaker 5: sort of early set mid seventies, the most important thing
Speaker 5: was your name. If you were a Rockefeller, you already
Speaker 5: considered to be brilliant. If you were head of General Motors,
Speaker 5: it was your reputation. It was who you knew, who
Speaker 5: your family was, what was your character. And then in
Speaker 5: the mid seventies, basically.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that Jeff Stain mcguffrey is understands the
Speaker 1: importance of character and virtue ethics.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thought him to.
Speaker 1: Be so sensitive and mindful of those topics. But it's
Speaker 1: good to know that the global elite care very much
Speaker 1: about having good character. So that's goodness.
Speaker 5: Welly, if you remember, you probably had a calculator. It
Speaker 5: was very advanced in those days to have a Texas
Speaker 5: instrument calculator where it could by putting in the numbers,
Speaker 5: it would multiply for you to do square roots. And
Speaker 5: that was the first and everyone who had a calculator
Speaker 5: was already advanced.
Speaker 1: I had the Woody Allen model calculator and when you
Speaker 1: would put the the numbers in back in the nineteen eighties,
Speaker 1: it would reply and say, it looks like maybe it's
Speaker 1: a little more than that. Maybe if you put in
Speaker 1: a little more numbers, the numbers will turn into something
Speaker 1: a little more.
Speaker 5: On Wall Street, a simple almost like your accountant. The
Speaker 5: most important parts of business we're really now going to calculate.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of a Woody Allen Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: calculator that fixes the numbers and fixes the books for you.
Speaker 1: It's automatically programmed at the end to fix the books relations.
Speaker 5: So it's not only mathematics, but things that could be calculated.
Speaker 5: Reputation couldn't be calculated. I could give you you a
Speaker 5: ten on a reputation scale at eight, What does it
Speaker 5: mean to have a measurement of your reputation. We'll get
Speaker 5: to that later. But people places.
Speaker 1: That, by the way, sounds like perhaps inklings towards a
Speaker 1: social credit score. Now. I don't know that that's where
Speaker 1: it's going to go in the conversation because the next
Speaker 1: section gets into high finance. And when they talk about
Speaker 1: high finance, as you guys know, they mention the importance
Speaker 1: of fractional reserve lending or lending out without the correct
Speaker 1: number of assets or gold or whatever to back up
Speaker 1: what's being lin out. And this is a huge vindication
Speaker 1: for those of us that have listened to Tragy and Hope,
Speaker 1: Carol Quigley, people in the Ron Paul Sphere, Von Misisphere people.
Speaker 3: The Austrian school of economics.
Speaker 1: They've had this critique, remember Creature from.
Speaker 3: Jackal Island right for many, many years.
Speaker 1: This is the central motus operandi of the federal reserve system,
Speaker 1: which is based on the Rothchild banking model. And we
Speaker 1: have that, by the way, in the biography of the
Speaker 1: Rothchilds by Morton, which we've been citing this week, and
Speaker 1: they even admit in the book, as I put them.
Speaker 3: On Twitter, that.
Speaker 1: The Waterloo story, the famous Waterloo story of advanced intelligence
Speaker 1: which led them to be able to buy up the
Speaker 1: market as it crashed, is the model that Jeffson every
Speaker 1: himself uses for finance. Now, so a lot of admissions,
Speaker 1: key points, and what's weird is that it's going to
Speaker 1: go in the direction of questioning scientism.
Speaker 3: He's going to get into Kabbala and he's even.
Speaker 1: Going to bring up Leibniz and That was the last
Speaker 1: thing I would have expected to be in a ban
Speaker 1: in Epstein interview is a discussion of Leibnitz. So it's
Speaker 1: very pertinent to those of us from the philosophy domain.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the monads, monadology. We're going
Speaker 1: to try to decipher does Epstein really nobody's talking about
Speaker 1: or is he a sued And I think ultimately it's
Speaker 1: it's going to be probably cabalistic because the way that
Speaker 1: he describes gigantic systems working as organisms also has parallels
Speaker 1: with the cabalistic.
Speaker 3: Myth of the column.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna be focusing on Cobbolism and all that
Speaker 1: as we get into Jeff Stain mcceffrey's interview, we're going
Speaker 1: to skip ahead to where we left off, which was
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes in after he explained to Bannon fractional
Speaker 1: reserve banking. And again it's kind of surprising to me
Speaker 1: Bannon doesn't.
Speaker 3: Get it, like he's not aware of what Like.
Speaker 1: Everybody from the Ron Paul sphere, right, everybody from this
Speaker 1: side of things knows what fractional reserve banking is and
Speaker 1: how the bankers use the gold note scam, and they
Speaker 1: would print more gold notes than they had actual gold.
Speaker 1: You know, quickly says this within the first twin or
Speaker 1: pages of Tragyan Hope, and it goes back centuries and
Speaker 1: ultimately it goes back millennia. So this is an old
Speaker 1: trick of devaluing the currency. That's basically what Epstein is
Speaker 1: talking about. And he says more or less that the
Speaker 1: way that he got recruited into this high level trilateral
Speaker 1: steering committee stuff was because he was able to explain
Speaker 1: high finance and fractional reserve banking to these people, which
Speaker 1: you would think they would understand.
Speaker 6: But they didn't.
Speaker 5: Sure you understand your body system, you'd say, well, I
Speaker 5: hope so because I wanted to keep me healthy. But
Speaker 5: you could have a kidney infection, you could have a
Speaker 5: heart attack, you could a broken knee. There's lots of
Speaker 5: pieces of the system. And in fact, when you ask
Speaker 5: the question, very few doctors understand your entire body because especially.
Speaker 1: And we're going to fast forward to that part where
Speaker 1: he talks about systems analysis. So basically he's looking at
Speaker 1: holistic systems. And some of the global elite writers, whether
Speaker 1: it's Arthur Kessler or freedof Chuwan, they talk about what's
Speaker 1: called hol on. It's h O l O N.
Speaker 3: So they point out that when you have.
Speaker 1: Things in nature like root systems or cells or whatever
Speaker 1: in the body, they don't operate as independent discrete units.
Speaker 3: They actually function together.
Speaker 1: Within a whole organism, and that's sometimes called a hole on.
Speaker 3: That's what he's.
Speaker 1: Talking about, which is very important to the global elite,
Speaker 1: because for one, they like to focus not just on
Speaker 1: the discrete parts, but controlling and steering at a big
Speaker 1: macro scale. And that would be say, macro finance, macro sociology, right,
Speaker 1: like how a whole country inter relates. Right, You could
Speaker 1: see why for the global elite, big scale macro stuff
Speaker 1: would be very important.
Speaker 5: We need there's specialist for you a polynoidal system. There's
Speaker 5: specialisty ahead, and now we have specialists in different areas.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna get to your first question about Santa
Speaker 5: Fe Institute. The world economy and your body are both
Speaker 5: comprised of little systems interacting with each other and making
Speaker 5: one big system.
Speaker 1: That's by the way, if you if you saw our
Speaker 1: ghosts in the machine analysis of the famous Arthur Castler text,
Speaker 1: he was a high level global elite player kind of
Speaker 1: like Jeff Saan mc every to a degree.
Speaker 3: That's all The first half of that book is this,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about?
Speaker 4: This is what's stunning for all the little guys out there,
Speaker 4: the populist movement, the little guys that haven't had a
Speaker 4: pay raise in thirty years. They think that these elites,
Speaker 4: you know, have everything, the guys in the room making
Speaker 4: the decisions. So the Party of Davis, guys, you're sitting
Speaker 4: there and you don't think many people today really understand
Speaker 4: the complexity and really all the movie pieces and how
Speaker 4: they interconnect with the world's financial system.
Speaker 5: No, the nice not only don't they understand the complexity.
Speaker 5: And that goes back to Santa fe Institute was an
Speaker 5: attempt of trying to see if it was a way
Speaker 5: to mathematize, formulaize, or algorithmically understand what the term complexity means.
Speaker 5: That goes back to the original question. Complex systems are
Speaker 5: complex by definition, but there's not necessarily it's not one
Speaker 5: level of complexity is we might say, well, our fingers
Speaker 5: are complex, the movements the muscles of our hands, but
Speaker 5: it's not as complex as the blood system. Now I
Speaker 5: have a circulatory system, I have systems on top of systems,
Speaker 5: so that there's no one group of person that really
Speaker 5: understands the way the body works. There's no one group
Speaker 5: that understands the way the financial systems work. You might
Speaker 5: understand us bond market, now you've asked about trade of
Speaker 5: long term capital. That was a bond fund, very small
Speaker 5: part of this very complex system. So the goal of
Speaker 5: the extent off the institute was to see is there
Speaker 5: a way to get in somehow understand how complex systems interact.
Speaker 1: Now, this is really important because it gives us an
Speaker 1: insight into what he was up to and what his
Speaker 1: role seems to be. And if you've heard my analysis
Speaker 1: all week, all week long, as we've gone through the
Speaker 1: Epstein files as they released, that was essentially what I
Speaker 1: said I thought he was. He's a high level integrator
Speaker 1: and systems analysis networker. He seems to kind of almost
Speaker 1: have maybe a PhD in organized crime over all the
Speaker 1: other things that he's purported to be, like a mathematician
Speaker 1: or you know, a banker or a money manager, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, he was probably doing those things to some degree,
Speaker 1: but his real role is as an operative to do
Speaker 1: systems analysis and explain to even high level people how
Speaker 1: the world actually works. So he's kind of an educator
Speaker 1: as well a consultant.
Speaker 3: You could say.
Speaker 1: That's why, for example, Zelenski says, I need to consult Epstein.
Speaker 1: I need his help in regard to what's happening in
Speaker 1: Ukraine versus Russia. That's why he explains for several minutes
Speaker 1: to Ehud Barak what Peter Thiel's company is and what
Speaker 1: Pallunteer does. Right.
Speaker 3: So he's doing this.
Speaker 1: He's even explaining to Clinton's own economic team, Larry Summers,
Speaker 1: how the Vatican Bank works as a superseded grit money
Speaker 1: laundering international operation. Right, he has to explain that to them.
Speaker 1: And he's having explained to Bannon, a journalist, what fraction
Speaker 1: reserve banking is, and how the world actually functions in
Speaker 1: this same way as a controlled organized crime black market system.
Speaker 1: That's what he's getting at. He's saying, I understood this,
Speaker 1: and that's.
Speaker 4: What was my role.
Speaker 1: Now people are saying, oh, he's actually dumb, he's not
Speaker 1: that smart. Now he's also a con man. So he
Speaker 1: has elements of trying to present himself as overcompetent in
Speaker 1: other domains like science or philosophy. Right, So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting to see as philosophers when we get to
Speaker 1: a section talking about monads and Leibniz, does he really
Speaker 1: understand what he's talking about or is there a lot
Speaker 1: of sued you know word solid terminology going on to
Speaker 1: make it look like he's way more overcompetent, that he's
Speaker 1: some kind of savant. I think even Bannon asked him
Speaker 1: at one point something like that, like, you know, are
Speaker 1: you some sort of savant?
Speaker 3: Like what are you?
Speaker 5: Fast forward Steve too today where Google and these other
Speaker 5: engine companies, the other tech companies are trying to build
Speaker 5: artificial intelligence. The strangest thing that they found. One of
Speaker 5: the strangest things is that the systems that they designs
Speaker 5: utificial intelligence with a lot of people have heard about
Speaker 5: is they design a bunch of systems. They're called neural nets.
Speaker 5: The term simply taken out of brain work neurons in
Speaker 5: the brain nets because they actually look like a net.
Speaker 5: They put in some inputs the computers work spit out
Speaker 5: an answer sound normal to you because you're thinking about
Speaker 5: that calculator you had in nineteen seventy six on your desk.
Speaker 5: When you ask the person who designed the system, how
Speaker 5: did it come to that answer, how did you a
Speaker 5: neural net? Can you show me the calculations? They say, no,
Speaker 5: we don't know, we don't know how the thing we
Speaker 5: designed actually came up with that answer.
Speaker 1: That's pretty Now to the people in the comments are saying,
Speaker 1: what do you mean, he's a student of crime. Now,
Speaker 1: there actually are people who get really really advanced information
Speaker 1: and studies about how to do crime. In fact, in
Speaker 1: the in Carwise scandal, there was a guy called the
Speaker 1: Sicilian who was basically a PhD in how to do
Speaker 1: criminal organization or criminal crime syndicate type stuff. So my suspicions,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's like a literal like villain school, right,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Marvel shit. I'm saying like, there
Speaker 1: really is a place for people who have a very
Speaker 1: high level understanding of black markets and criminal organizations. Now,
Speaker 1: a lot of those people work in intelligence agencies, because
Speaker 1: that's what intelligence agencies do is they place people in
Speaker 1: other countries.
Speaker 3: It's one of the things they do. They also lie
Speaker 3: through the media all the time.
Speaker 1: But one of their jobs is to place people in
Speaker 1: other countries to do illegal activities. So, by definition, an
Speaker 1: intelligence agency engaging an espionage is a criminal organization, So
Speaker 1: keep that in mind.
Speaker 5: Strange they take the same neural nets now and they
Speaker 5: put it in front of a video game. No learning nothing,
Speaker 5: they say to the computer, they say, sit in front
Speaker 5: of your video game and learn how to play. It
Speaker 5: seems that computer learns better than any human in history,
Speaker 5: faster than in the human history, beats in a human
Speaker 5: in history. But when you asked design of how did
Speaker 5: it do it? No one knows.
Speaker 4: It just did it.
Speaker 5: So it's the first little touch of things that we
Speaker 5: already have gotten to a place where we don't understand it,
Speaker 5: and we build it.
Speaker 4: On Sunday afternoon, September fourteenth, two thousand and eight, where
Speaker 4: were you?
Speaker 5: Sorry?
Speaker 4: It was the night they put Lehman Brothers in bankruptcy
Speaker 4: in London and I was in jail. Seriously, yes, so
Speaker 4: the financial crist of two thousand and eight happened when
Speaker 4: you were in jail. I was just going to be
Speaker 4: so amazing. That's gonna so amazing. I take it.
Speaker 3: You couldn't.
Speaker 4: You didn't have your wallfree journal dropped off you in
Speaker 4: the morning, your financial Times. No, how did you hear
Speaker 4: about the How did you hear about? Because I wanted
Speaker 4: to I forgot.
Speaker 3: Now, this is interesting just because.
Speaker 1: When he was first brought into being on Wall Street,
Speaker 1: when he was at bear Stearn's, his partner Hoffman or Hoff's,
Speaker 1: Hoffstat or something. His partner went to jail and he
Speaker 1: did it for insider trading. So he was learning the
Speaker 1: criminals syndicates even that early on operations insider trading. And
Speaker 1: it's curious that he didn't get his trouble and trouble
Speaker 1: but his partner did about this.
Speaker 4: But yes, I'm trying to get this gonna amazing. This
Speaker 4: is a let's go back and do it again.
Speaker 3: But that was back in the eighties, by the way,
Speaker 3: that was a long.
Speaker 4: Time ago, Sunday afternoon, because I want to find out
Speaker 4: about people. The genius is understanding the complexity of the
Speaker 4: financial system, because I think the best example we have
Speaker 4: is the financial crisis of the crash of two thousand
Speaker 4: and eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people are asking, well, what about Bannon, does Bannon? Well,
Speaker 1: I think what I gather from the interview is that
Speaker 1: and Bannon just said it right here. He's like, I
Speaker 1: want to know and talk to all the geniuses in
Speaker 1: the world. And when I read the texts, Bannon seems
Speaker 1: to think of Epstein as like this super savant right,
Speaker 1: like this this amazing genius person, and he doesn't really
Speaker 1: seem to catch on to any of the suitory. But
Speaker 1: I think again, as far as I can tell, Epstein's expertise.
Speaker 3: Is really just criminal criminal operations.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And Bannon doesn't seem to be swift enough to pick
Speaker 1: up on the kind of limitations I guess of the
Speaker 1: other domains. He thinks he's just a sort of like
Speaker 1: polymath or something.
Speaker 4: Sunday afternoon, September fourteenth, I think it was two thousand
Speaker 4: and eight, is when they were working feverishly in midowm, Manhattan,
Speaker 4: at the Lehman Brothers offices and in Vario law firms
Speaker 4: around town and with the Secretary Treasury and the federalsor
Speaker 4: what they're going to do with Leman They decided they
Speaker 4: were't gonna say it, and so they prepared to put
Speaker 4: into bankruptcy at the opening of the market in London
Speaker 4: the next day. How did you hear about what was
Speaker 4: gonna happen to Lehman Brothers And what did you immediately
Speaker 4: think when you heard they was gonna be put in
Speaker 4: to bankruptcy?
Speaker 5: I'm glad you asked that question. I was in solitary
Speaker 5: confinement September fourteenth, and again some of the public stories
Speaker 5: about the wonderful time I had in jail and my
Speaker 5: work release, which didn't come from months after I'd been
Speaker 5: there since June. In eight x ten cell with a
Speaker 5: bed in the back, a six foot bed in the back,
Speaker 5: a chrome sink with toilet attached to it, and a
Speaker 5: little piece of metal sticking out that we was suposed
Speaker 5: to acut as a table. Now since I was in jail,
Speaker 5: there were no books. Why there's no library.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 4: Why.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna break this interview out with
Speaker 1: take calls. It's kind of long, so we do need
Speaker 1: to have some a little bit of breaking it up.
Speaker 1: So in a few more minutes we'll take a h
Speaker 1: another call.
Speaker 5: Right, But you're in jail, No, I was in jail,
Speaker 5: not prison. So in jail, I was in a place
Speaker 5: it was called the Special Housing Unit, which is for
Speaker 5: the roughest, toughest, meanest people. They put me there, they says,
Speaker 5: my own protection. So I was in an eight x
Speaker 5: ten cell with a little slit in the door where
Speaker 5: they would serve my food on a tray about s
Speaker 5: nine inches by four inches. And then as soon as
Speaker 5: I finished eating, they've take the train and close it down.
Speaker 5: And one of the guards said, do you understand there's
Speaker 5: a cra there's a wall streets crashing. I'm I'm worried
Speaker 5: about my pension fund. What should I do? And I said, sorry,
Speaker 5: wall streets crashing? What's happened? And he said this some
Speaker 5: crisis and some companies are going bankrupt. I said, are
Speaker 5: you sure? And I said yeah, it's all over the papers.
Speaker 5: Everybody's tar We're all terrifed. We're gonna lose us life
Speaker 5: savings because we have either a four oh one k
Speaker 5: or a pension funds. We don't know anything about money,
Speaker 5: mister Efstein, can you tell us, like what's going on?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 5: Am I gonna I? Am I gonna be able to
Speaker 5: afid my Chidren's education? Am I gonna be bankrupt? Like
Speaker 5: this company called Lehman Brothers. And there's another company in
Speaker 5: the front page today called bear Stearns. Oh no, I said,
Speaker 5: why because that's the company I was a partner in.
Speaker 5: And in fact, that was a company I had a
Speaker 5: very large investment. Then, so is a great story. I
Speaker 5: didn't have my Wall Street Journal, but in the early mornings,
Speaker 5: you're allowed to make two phone calls collect and when
Speaker 5: you pick up the phone, you can dial a number.
Speaker 5: And when the person picks up, they say, you're getting
Speaker 5: a call from the Palm Beach County jail. Will you
Speaker 5: accept reverse charges? And the person he says yes, And
Speaker 5: they called us through other person says no. The person
Speaker 5: I called was Jimmy Kane, the president of bear Stearns,
Speaker 5: and I said, tell me what's going on, And so
Speaker 5: that my knowledge of the financial crisis happened with Jimmy,
Speaker 5: who's at the center of the storm, telling me about
Speaker 5: what Leeman had gone under and they were trying to
Speaker 5: figure out a way should they bail out bear Stearns.
Speaker 4: Did it strike you at the time of the mess
Speaker 4: you had made your life to be in a situation
Speaker 4: that you're one of the greatest financial minds in the
Speaker 4: world looked at?
Speaker 1: So Bannon thinks he's the greatest financial mind in the world.
Speaker 1: So big bosses for five dollars. Hey, people who get
Speaker 1: locked up will tell you that Jay is actually a
Speaker 1: community college for criminals to study in prison as the university. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have heard that, and of course, you know, we
Speaker 1: talked to Sean Attwood, who you know, lived through that
Speaker 1: for many years. He was involved in a.
Speaker 3: Massive ecstasy ring being busted in.
Speaker 1: Arizona, and he was competing with Sammy the Bull, and
Speaker 1: of course Sammy will say similar things as well. I
Speaker 1: think though with Epstein, what you have, though is above that.
Speaker 1: This is above that kind of level of uh, you know,
Speaker 1: learning to run a local gang. You know, this is
Speaker 1: like internat. I mean some of those files the first
Speaker 1: day it was like Epstein was organized, was organizing meetings
Speaker 1: with literally like twenty heads of state of the world
Speaker 1: he was going to go meet with. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is this is a level above that, big boss. But
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right in terms of like the low, you know,
Speaker 1: local level criminal stuff. That's exactly what it is.
Speaker 3: Vampire. What's up?
Speaker 1: Federal prison is Harvard for criminals there, what's up?
Speaker 7: Yes, I just wanted to note that when he talks
Speaker 7: about neural networks, we kind of do know a lot
Speaker 7: about how they work. Essentially, he said, he said, we
Speaker 7: don't know like you can say that you don't know
Speaker 7: what the math formula is to do a specific task.
Speaker 7: But a neural network itself is the math formula, and
Speaker 7: it just adjusts itself so that it the output corresponds
Speaker 7: to what you want. Like essentially, when you're putting a
Speaker 7: neural network to play a video game, is just adjusting
Speaker 7: a bunch of numbers so that it works with that
Speaker 7: specific video game.
Speaker 3: We know the structure.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, Yeah, I got the impression from that
Speaker 1: comment that he was maybe going in the direction of
Speaker 1: saying that AI could become conscious because we don't really
Speaker 1: know what consciousness is, and because AI is answering in
Speaker 1: a supposed way, we don't understand maybe AIS.
Speaker 3: I think he's kind of going that direction.
Speaker 4: Maybe he might as well.
Speaker 7: Because he's showing that he knows this stuff superficially. Okay,
Speaker 7: there's a lot of research that goes into AI, and
Speaker 7: he just gives the example of like the the first
Speaker 7: thing they ever used that they ever called AI, which
Speaker 7: is neural networks, which is like I think from the
Speaker 7: seventies or the eighties, you know, like it's it's an
Speaker 7: old concept, and he makes it sound slightly mystical.
Speaker 3: Right, I think that's exactly.
Speaker 1: That's what he was going on, That's exactly, and he's
Speaker 1: going to go that way in as the discussion progresses.
Speaker 1: He's going to get into these sort of new agy
Speaker 1: cabalistic ideas. But I think it's important to understand too
Speaker 1: that Yeah, I mean at the level of a spy,
Speaker 1: that's know what you get with people that are doing that,
Speaker 1: they need they need to have enough knowledge of subjects
Speaker 1: and many subjects to be able to network and interlink
Speaker 1: people at a different level at all levels of society.
Speaker 1: So you know, a person who's a fixer or a
Speaker 1: spy might need to be interacting with, you know, people
Speaker 1: at an embassy, at a at a dinner. They might
Speaker 1: need to be interacting with, you know, a drug cartel.
Speaker 1: They might need to be interacting with people who understand
Speaker 1: the tech world, and so they will have a superficial
Speaker 1: knowledge of a lot of areas. And I think that's
Speaker 1: exactly why Jeff Stain McCaffrey demonstrates that exactly what's up man, Timothy,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 2: Jay?
Speaker 8: I got two two statements. I have a pitch for you.
Speaker 8: I actually because you know how you always complain because
Speaker 8: you don't ever get as much audience on your very
Speaker 8: interesting lecturer series as you think you should. I actually
Speaker 8: agree with you. I think I'm you know, when you're like,
Speaker 8: there's a one hundred people say that's me.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if I talk about Epstein, I'll get three
Speaker 1: thousand live and fifty thousand viewers total. But if I
Speaker 1: talk about you know, Dostoevsky or Lord of the Flies
Speaker 1: or you know some like that, we get like one
Speaker 1: third of that.
Speaker 8: I mean, what I was going to say is it's
Speaker 8: something to consider is if you had someone else, if
Speaker 8: you have anyone else that you're fusing your friends with,
Speaker 8: or someone else who's capable of keeping up with the
Speaker 8: reading material, you really should consider maybe like having it.
Speaker 1: Be like a lecture between you two. It's like a
Speaker 1: podcast satting where you're he.
Speaker 8: I doesn't think it's to any guys your podcast with,
Speaker 8: but sometimes it's like you're saying the color blues in
Speaker 8: fact to color and you're like, yes, you know someone
Speaker 8: who's more.
Speaker 9: Kind of quit.
Speaker 8: I guess that's I don't want to mean, but someone
Speaker 8: that you can actually kind of bounce off of a
Speaker 8: little bit would make it a lot more interesting. I
Speaker 8: think most people I enjoy listening to it because I
Speaker 8: I think that this stuff is super interesting to me
Speaker 8: just because you know, we kind of in this world
Speaker 8: and we kind of have to deal with what is
Speaker 8: actually going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Uh, I was gonna say when we spoke before the
Speaker 8: opposed to Kouf about how we were all kind of
Speaker 8: you and I were both shocked at this time because
Speaker 8: we were like, Wow, I never thought a signup would
Speaker 8: work that effectively. I'm kind of saying that again with
Speaker 8: this Epstein step.
Speaker 6: I was in the Marine Corps for.
Speaker 8: Like twelve years or puts, you know, od odias and
Speaker 8: all sorts of stuff at that time, you know, or
Speaker 8: they getting their details and brag or anything. But we
Speaker 8: all know that countries just do this kind of stuff.
Speaker 8: And then's the thing I'm being told. I don't know,
Speaker 8: but the only exception. There's plenty exception to that rule,
Speaker 8: and people's kind of like completely lost the plot on
Speaker 8: the whole thing where it's like, first off, I want
Speaker 8: to say thank you for exposing the gymnasts that were
Speaker 8: in fact apparently a sigh out by Jeffrey Epstein. You
Speaker 8: called that one out.
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about the the.
Speaker 1: The papal acrobats, the gay acrobats years ago.
Speaker 10: What am I looking at?
Speaker 1: So you pointed that out years ago?
Speaker 8: But I guess what I'm kind of confused about now
Speaker 8: is people get real caught up on like does this
Speaker 8: person know Like, well, everyone's going to.
Speaker 3: Know the guy, right, This is not.
Speaker 1: Does this person what sait? Again?
Speaker 8: Oh Epstein? Everyone knows Epstein. Everyone in power is going
Speaker 8: to know this guy. That's not the question, you know
Speaker 8: what I mean? Of course people know him, and you know,
Speaker 8: if George Lucas knows him, does that mean Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 8: creates Star Wars?
Speaker 1: No, of course that's ridiculous.
Speaker 11: Instead of focusing on what his.
Speaker 8: Actual operations were, these are things you have talked about
Speaker 8: for years. Again that I don't owe you to quality,
Speaker 8: but a lot of people do. You're talking about this
Speaker 8: stuff for years, you know, And I was always sitting
Speaker 8: there going, yeah, I've heard about people doing this stuff
Speaker 8: for years. The marine for is kind of a weird
Speaker 8: place because it's like the only, only terrible and honest
Speaker 8: branch of the military. I always joke, you know, you
Speaker 8: ever read the book The War's a Racket as Smedley Butler,
Speaker 8: Melly Butler.
Speaker 10: It's ignurine right, twenty two years story of.
Speaker 8: Like some military dude writing a book that's anti establishments.
Speaker 8: Always almost always a marine Marines are real, honest, we're not.
Speaker 8: We don't lie about this if we're not over here.
Speaker 1: Like, no, which ones too, the real dude?
Speaker 8: We know we like to stack bodies, do I'm sorry,
Speaker 8: But what I'm getting at though, is, you know you
Speaker 8: have these situations where these have been consistent issues for
Speaker 8: a very long time. I think you spoke to the
Speaker 8: rocket fillers getting involved or is it the rose Childs.
Speaker 8: Can't remember which one in the people Bank of the
Speaker 8: eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, eighteen thirty two, first loan? Yeah, and I think
Speaker 3: you know, look.
Speaker 8: Guy game book, which is a weird thing. Someone should
Speaker 8: have told me that because every guy I knew in
Speaker 8: the Marine Corps read books to get in, you know,
Speaker 8: to many of the jobs. It would be expected that.
Speaker 6: You read a book like.
Speaker 8: Something stupid like Starship Couper was an expected reading material.
Speaker 12: No, I know.
Speaker 1: I meant at West Point they use Robert Heinlein's novels.
Speaker 3: That's part of your course.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you have to read stuff like I'm sorry to
Speaker 8: be the very bad news. I wrote a white paper
Speaker 8: in twenty ten for the record about a positive I
Speaker 8: We're sorry about your war in twenty ten, and I
Speaker 8: was right of what happened in the restaurant in Ukraine.
Speaker 1: So what I'm kind of curious is what you think
Speaker 1: on this is.
Speaker 8: Like they released this information, people literally are obsessed with
Speaker 8: the dumbest stuff on it, scimitars and George Bush Senior
Speaker 8: and dumb things like that. What should we do and
Speaker 8: what should we focus on exposing to people and remembering
Speaker 8: so it doesn't get memory hold?
Speaker 7: What do you think?
Speaker 3: I think, good question. The most important aspect are.
Speaker 1: The international structure of this organized crime syndicate, how it works,
Speaker 1: how it is like Specter in James Bond. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not accidental that I was saying yet
Speaker 1: and yesterday or the day before stream.
Speaker 3: That Epstein is basically Blowfield.
Speaker 1: Because Ian Fleming when he was writing those novels. Because
Speaker 1: I did my grad work on this, I didn't end
Speaker 1: up finishing my grad thesis, but I did publish it
Speaker 1: in a peer review, by the way, so I can
Speaker 1: actually say it's a lot of these scientists and dorks
Speaker 1: that I'm actually published in peer review. Now it is
Speaker 1: economics and sociology. But I guarantee you that's more of
Speaker 1: a credible thing than anybody else can say in this domain.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, the dorks. I mean, there might be some
Speaker 3: dorks that are published.
Speaker 1: But let me see if I can, just as a joke,
Speaker 1: let me see if I can find my peer review,
Speaker 1: and you guys can see that it really is.
Speaker 3: It's the many layers of double seven.
Speaker 1: I think is one of those. Ooh, look at that
Speaker 1: peer review. So anybody who wants to diss me, you're
Speaker 1: actually dissing a peer reviewed source in academica. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'm a peer reviewed source. And what do you do
Speaker 1: if I'm a peer reviewed source and I tell you
Speaker 1: that peer review is bullshit? Because now you have an
Speaker 1: authority telling you that authority is a bullshit what do
Speaker 1: you do now? So anyway, so as you can see, no,
Speaker 1: I did not finish this thesis. I did all the
Speaker 1: way up to my graduate thesis and this was the
Speaker 1: thesis and I was like, I forget it. I just
Speaker 1: ended up publishing. It did go into peer review, So
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: Now you have authorities telling you not to listen to
Speaker 1: the author. And as you can see, yes, it is
Speaker 1: a semiotic analysis of Ian Fleming's novels and they're used
Speaker 1: during the Cold War for propaganda. So pick fiction and
Speaker 1: propaganda in the Cold War. By the way, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I've read this final version. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember what's in this final Pedia version here. I
Speaker 1: don't even have access to my own. Somebody might have
Speaker 1: sent me this back at the time, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: But this was published in like twenty March of twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: So but nobody reads peer review stuff anyway. Nobody reads
Speaker 1: this academic shit. So I was like, well, I might
Speaker 1: as well just write books on the subject, because then
Speaker 1: people actually read it and I'll actually make a living.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares what academics say. But the reason I'm talking
Speaker 1: about this is because the more I saw the methodology
Speaker 1: that Ian Fleming was using in his stuff, I noticed that, okay,
Speaker 1: he's pulling from one of the real operations he was
Speaker 1: involved in, right Like there was Operation GoldenEye, I think,
Speaker 1: where he was spying on Fascist and Franco Spain. This
Speaker 1: Operation Mints Meat, which they made that movie about recently,
Speaker 1: which is real where they've sort of put out the
Speaker 1: fake body with the fake plans in it, which would
Speaker 1: get the Germans chasing a false lead. That movie was
Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm trying to remember who's in that was
Speaker 1: it like, was it Beneedette Cumberbatch? I can't remember who's
Speaker 1: in Operation mince Meat. Let's see anyway, that's true, and
Speaker 1: that's based on Ben McIntyre's writings. He's one of the
Speaker 1: well known writers on the subject of bondology. Yes, actually
Speaker 1: bondology is its own discipline in academia. It's a sub
Speaker 1: submische which is pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: But Operation ments Meat is real.
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm talking about this is that the
Speaker 1: more that Okay, it's calling Firth, it's a Netflix movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you've never seen an Operation mince Me, it's
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 1: But you realize that because Ian Fleming was naval intelligence
Speaker 1: and he was eventually pretty high up at British Intelligence
Speaker 1: m I six, he was able to organize and strategize
Speaker 1: a lot of even things like the US.
Speaker 3: Secret Service superstructure.
Speaker 1: So it's actually Ian Fleming that helped establish the OSS
Speaker 1: together with Bill donnovan and others. So that's why he matters,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't realize he matters that much.
Speaker 1: But it also shows Hollywood, right, it shows how Hollywood
Speaker 1: is an engine of propaganda, revelation of the method, whatever
Speaker 1: terms you want to use like it's all there in
Speaker 1: the Ian Fleming stuff.
Speaker 3: And that's why I.
Speaker 1: Focused on it because I was a skeptic as well
Speaker 1: when I heard that, wait a minute, there's connection between
Speaker 1: the CIA and Hollywood. I remember hearing this when I
Speaker 1: was like nineteen twenty twenty one, and I didn't really
Speaker 1: know what to make of it. Thought it sounds a
Speaker 1: little outlandish, and then the more you dive in, you diget, oh,
Speaker 1: that's actually a CIA and Masad. Obviously there's a lot
Speaker 1: of obviously a huge presence of Massad in Hollywood, but
Speaker 1: CIA as well and British intelligence too. So we need
Speaker 1: to understand it's like it's all the above, right, it's
Speaker 1: not because a lot of times those entities, through the
Speaker 1: special relationship the liais on and work together five eyes,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So so I Fleming is huge to this,
Speaker 1: and he's a great insight into how the world really
Speaker 1: works through fiction because he's basically saying I met with
Speaker 1: people like Jeff Sain mceffrey. He's like I would meet
Speaker 1: with people that were like Specter, like Blowfeld. Now, obviously
Speaker 1: in the in the stories and in the movies, they
Speaker 1: kind of hype up Blowfeld like he's like this super
Speaker 1: mastermind and he's running everything right. And we know that
Speaker 1: in this case of Jeff Sin mceffrey, he's not running them,
Speaker 1: because there's several situations where or emails where it appears
Speaker 1: that he's being told what to do and being given orders,
Speaker 1: including sometimes perhaps threats or sometimes perhaps you know, you
Speaker 1: may kill this person. So all right, let's get back
Speaker 1: to Jeff Sah McCaffrey and see what he's got to say.
Speaker 3: We'll take some more calls, and we'll do some more super.
Speaker 4: Chats by world leaders. And as there you know, you're
Speaker 4: thinking by the most prominent important people in the world.
Speaker 4: And here you are in solitary confinement. You came and
Speaker 4: you came in. You got to make a collect call
Speaker 4: to somebody.
Speaker 6: Did it?
Speaker 4: Did it strike you at the time, how how all
Speaker 4: the thread your life had come together and and put
Speaker 4: you in a position or you would put yourself in
Speaker 4: that position. No, So it never struck you when you
Speaker 4: had to make a collect, your one collect, one of
Speaker 4: your two fifty percent of your collect calls that day,
Speaker 4: you call the president of the head of the CEO
Speaker 4: of bear Stems. The biggest financial event in your life
Speaker 4: is taking place, of which one every important person in
Speaker 4: the world would be seeking your opinion. Number two would
Speaker 4: be a once in a lifetime opportunity to apply your craft.
Speaker 4: Number three would be one like time opportunity to make
Speaker 4: money if you were smart, and obviously you're smart. You're
Speaker 4: telling me here truthfully that it never hit you at
Speaker 4: all of how you'd ended up in a place where
Speaker 4: you had to make a collect phone call from a
Speaker 4: jail sale that was six y nine. Okay, come on,
Speaker 4: your food being passed into a slot.
Speaker 5: The question you want to ask is who was the
Speaker 5: other call to?
Speaker 4: Who was the other call to?
Speaker 5: The other call is to my friend, the JP Morgan,
Speaker 5: who was then I didn't know at the time, trying
Speaker 5: to buy bear Stearns. So at one point I had
Speaker 5: two phones. Who was difficult because they're afraid people are
Speaker 5: going to hang themselves with the phone cord, so they
Speaker 5: don't actually come together, and they pretty short, So I
Speaker 5: was actually going between two phones talking to bast Stearns
Speaker 5: and JP Morgan at the same time.
Speaker 1: So I found it amusing, and it never struck you, Well,
Speaker 1: that's interesting that he references hanging themselves in jail, and
Speaker 1: you can't have phone cords. Given the fact that, as
Speaker 1: we saw with the Sammy the Bull interview, Sammy said
Speaker 1: I was in that same super mix. It's all bullshit.
Speaker 1: There's no way.
Speaker 3: Don't let you have nothing that you can't hang yourself.
Speaker 4: It's not possible about how to end up in a
Speaker 4: situation like this.
Speaker 5: No, that would be probably means I would be too
Speaker 5: self aware.
Speaker 4: You can't possibly expect me to believe this.
Speaker 5: I know I don't believe it.
Speaker 4: It's even you're telling me that during that day you
Speaker 4: never had a moment you sat there and go, what
Speaker 4: the fuck have I done with my life? I'm in
Speaker 4: a six x nine jail cell when I should be
Speaker 4: on a train desk, or I should be in my
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty million dollars. Uh. You know, the
Speaker 4: greatest townhouse in New York City taking calls from the
Speaker 4: King of Saudi Arabia, the President of China, the head
Speaker 4: of Russia, the President of United States to save the
Speaker 4: world's population from a financial debacle. You're honestly expect me
Speaker 4: to believe that you that never happened.
Speaker 5: You suggest like he.
Speaker 3: Would save the world.
Speaker 1: Dude in the email s he's the one talking to
Speaker 1: Arena to Rothschild saying, we're going to profit from the
Speaker 1: collapse of the Ukraine.
Speaker 3: We're going to go into Somalia, profit from the chaos.
Speaker 5: There, give me a break, steing And I was swimming
Speaker 5: somewhat depressed and how could this happen to me?
Speaker 4: I'm not saying depressed. I'm saying a moment of awareness
Speaker 4: of how could I get myself into this situation?
Speaker 5: No, I would just say how strange that this happens.
Speaker 5: Just it's strange. I'm wearing a jumpsuit and fliplip flops.
Speaker 5: What color was it?
Speaker 4: Jumps at?
Speaker 1: Brown?
Speaker 5: Brown?
Speaker 4: Brown jumps it? Yes, I knows. I don't see you
Speaker 4: in a lot of brown. No, brown jumpsuit and flip flops.
Speaker 5: Flip flops?
Speaker 4: Yes, with no access to books, no access to newspapers,
Speaker 4: no access suit anything, you had lived on information.
Speaker 5: Except my how'men joy bars? Extra, I'm enjoy bars?
Speaker 4: Did you eat almon joy bars and things like that?
Speaker 4: Because you're afraid of what the cooks into your food? Yes?
Speaker 4: Is that because of that you're in for the crimes
Speaker 4: that you're in for.
Speaker 1: No, he only ate almond joy bars because he was afraid.
Speaker 3: He was gonna get poisoned.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could theoretically poison an almond joy bar too,
Speaker 1: But I mean, okay, whatever.
Speaker 4: It was just in fact, it was because you're wealthy. Yes,
Speaker 4: How did you know that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: People would constantly if I was passing buyer, you'd have
Speaker 5: to go from my medical people would either have to
Speaker 5: borrow money or make some of the types of comments.
Speaker 4: But in the beginning, what were the comments. At the beginning,
Speaker 4: what were the comments?
Speaker 5: It serves you fucking rich guys right that you're hear
Speaker 5: next to me.
Speaker 4: There was nothing about your crimes. No, So all this
Speaker 4: rumor you hear all the time about people in prison
Speaker 4: that commit the type of crimes you commit, that's you're
Speaker 4: saying in your personal things.
Speaker 6: Not true.
Speaker 4: It was all because you were rich, yes, And it's
Speaker 4: all because they wanted to bar money.
Speaker 1: We'll get advice now, we should say so people that
Speaker 1: are not aware, I'm pretty sure this Bannon interview is
Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen or eighteen, so this is an older interview.
Speaker 1: This is not new, and people are saying, why is
Speaker 1: it out now? I think this was in the Epstein files,
Speaker 1: so I remember hearing this is like a several segments
Speaker 1: of two hours. It's something like six or eight hours
Speaker 1: of the total interview. But this is, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: two hours of the interview within the Epstein files. So
Speaker 1: this was probably catalog you know, at some point in
Speaker 1: regard to the trials and to see what he would
Speaker 1: admit or say in these interviews. I don't think this
Speaker 1: is being oh, this is being released because it's all
Speaker 1: a conspiracy.
Speaker 3: And I mean maybe.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are theorizing why, but no, this
Speaker 1: is not new. People are saying this is a new
Speaker 1: interview still alive. No, this is an old interview. It's
Speaker 1: well known that Bannon had done this, and for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: it was never released.
Speaker 3: It's not AI.
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to say it too, is
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go fast because i know it's gonna
Speaker 1: take forever. So I've got it on one point five.
Speaker 1: That's why it's it's sped up a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yes, wait, they get inviced with which to go long
Speaker 4: to you're telling me just to buy telling me in
Speaker 4: solid tary confinement.
Speaker 3: Oh the other thing, I remember what it was.
Speaker 1: The other thing was remember too that I think a
Speaker 1: lot of what Jeffrey's saying is true and verifiable. For example,
Speaker 1: he was a councilor form of a CFR trilateral member,
Speaker 1: so that's not fake. A lot of these things you
Speaker 1: can go easily verify, but sometimes you can tell, yeah,
Speaker 1: he is lying.
Speaker 3: For example, at one point in an.
Speaker 1: Interview he will say that there's no connection between race
Speaker 1: and IQ. Well that's totally contrary to what he says
Speaker 1: in his private d MS and chat. So remember this
Speaker 1: is the public face Jeffrey Epstein and what he wants
Speaker 1: people to see. And I think there was even an
Speaker 1: exchange between him and Bannon one of the dms or
Speaker 1: i ams. He was saying something like, yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to rebrand you as a philanthropist.
Speaker 4: I think he said something like that interesting going along,
Speaker 4: Yeah that say abou human nature?
Speaker 5: Well, what I think if people find one of the
Speaker 5: reasons they wanted to keep me in solitary confinement, was
Speaker 5: there afraid that everybody would want to know which stocks
Speaker 5: to buy. But what happened was after this crisis, now
Speaker 5: it's on the front page of every.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, The only reason that they put him in
Speaker 1: solitary confinement isn't because people had suspicions that he was
Speaker 1: part of an international global elite blow Feld, Specter bond
Speaker 1: villain level scheme. It's because people want an insider information.
Speaker 4: Sure, I don't want to lose this thing. Sorry, when
Speaker 4: you first heard that, did you was it Bearstrands had
Speaker 4: been kick in the bankruptcy? What's six months before? No?
Speaker 5: No, it's the same time. This is part of the
Speaker 5: same deal.
Speaker 4: I thought, no, no, bearstars they said the stars they
Speaker 4: sow they saved bear Stearns and didn't save Liman Villasi
Speaker 4: right the next months before they had bailed out bear Stearns,
Speaker 4: but bear Stearns were still a zombie. What Shelovitz wilm
Speaker 4: was a form of self But they'd quoe unquote saved it.
Speaker 4: They why did they make the decision? In your mind,
Speaker 4: why did Hank, Paulson and BERNANKI this what's this concept
Speaker 4: of moral hazard? Explain the ardusment moral hazard is? And
Speaker 4: why why did they save bear Stearns six months before?
Speaker 4: And why did the smartest guys in the room decide
Speaker 4: not to save Lynam Brothers.
Speaker 5: It's a good question. The real issue is is I'd
Speaker 5: have to go back when you have these systems to
Speaker 5: the way your doctor responds to any type of emergency.
Speaker 5: In your body, if they might decide to save your kidneys,
Speaker 5: to let your gallbladder go because the gall blood is
Speaker 5: less important to your overall system. It's people if at
Speaker 5: that time, even this it's not that long ago. The
Speaker 5: boogieman was when said, well, what really happened, Jeffrey, what
Speaker 5: really happened?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 5: What is this financial crisis? And you know, some of
Speaker 5: the progressives and the right wing blame it on the banks.
Speaker 5: It was the bank's fault, and it's the fault of
Speaker 5: this very esoteric, unknown concept of derivatives. It was related
Speaker 5: the derivatives that caused this financial crisis because the derive's
Speaker 5: got some.
Speaker 1: And that's true, because they were betting with other people's money.
Speaker 1: Exactly what happened in Operation Gladio when the Banco Dembrosio
Speaker 1: fell apart and the Vatican Bank was bankrupted, is because
Speaker 1: these criminals were taking the pension funds and betting at
Speaker 1: really high leverage. So that's what he's referring to, and
Speaker 1: that is partially correct. Now, nobody was saying it's just
Speaker 1: the existence of derivatives. It's the criminals using other people's
Speaker 1: money and then getting bailed out.
Speaker 3: That's the crime here.
Speaker 1: And as Big Boss says, for five dollars, you know
Speaker 1: this world has fallen when the criminals are classiest. You
Speaker 1: move bricks, I move regimes. We are not the same exactly.
Speaker 1: So again he's kind of giving more interesting insider sort
Speaker 1: of information here that well, yeah, technically it's not derivatives themselves.
Speaker 1: It's the criminals using these financial instruments at very high
Speaker 1: leverage to bet and then when they go bankrupt they
Speaker 1: can uh use the the compromise politicians to bail them
Speaker 1: out with the public's money and taxes and all that.
Speaker 1: So absolutely that's what's going on. And again it's it's
Speaker 1: the same model that you see if you study the
Speaker 1: Brazilian car wash scandal, if you study the FTX collapse,
Speaker 1: if you study Banco Dembrosio and the Vatican bank collapse
Speaker 1: and bankrupting, same model, and they just repeat the same
Speaker 1: sort of criminal.
Speaker 3: Techniques over and over.
Speaker 4: Oh out of control and like the in the Mickey
Speaker 4: Mouse and that was the way you started your financial
Speaker 4: your financial your road to a bonnaire went right through drivenives.
Speaker 5: Yes, but it's but drivens were not the cause. The
Speaker 5: drivens were not the cause at all. It's like saying
Speaker 5: you had hair was the cause of your heart at
Speaker 5: deck because it was on top of you. There isn't
Speaker 5: let me say there's no one specific cause. These a
Speaker 5: system collapses. So when many times when they have to
Speaker 5: make you a death certificate, when you said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not one cause, it's an entire criminal organization
Speaker 1: and criminal syndicate operation that collapses.
Speaker 3: So yeah, technically I guess that's true.
Speaker 5: Right, What did he die from? They'll say hot failure?
Speaker 5: But if you say, what was the cause of his
Speaker 5: heart failure? Well, he had the blood pressure, he shub
Speaker 5: but was hot, he was diabetic, he had all these
Speaker 5: other problems. But he said, no, no, no, we need
Speaker 5: a word on your death certificate. Did you die from
Speaker 5: brain damage? Did he die from hot failure? That's the
Speaker 5: financial crisis, many said. People said, well what caused it?
Speaker 5: They wrote, like on its death certificate derivatives.
Speaker 1: Now, remember there's exchanges between him and Bannon in the
Speaker 1: emails where he says he has to explain to Bannon
Speaker 1: inflation and the failed.
Speaker 3: To reserve are weapons. That's what's really going on.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: Remember this is the public interview, right, so this is
Speaker 1: Epstein's public face, full of admissions. But Also there's the
Speaker 1: private communication what Epstein really thinks, and that's why that's
Speaker 1: way more interesting than this all this this is very relevant.
Speaker 5: Interesting, But derivers were not a fundamental Rivers are not
Speaker 5: a fundamental cause of anything on.
Speaker 4: The So the was it Sunday or Monday? I take
Speaker 4: it was Monday morning when you made you two collect
Speaker 4: calls and you're talking to bear Serns one hand and
Speaker 4: more same with the other. JP Morgan, did you that
Speaker 4: was Monday morning? Did you? Jeffrey being one of.
Speaker 1: The fun I remember according to Two World Wars and
Speaker 1: Tiny Mustache Man, my publisher's new book, the whole chapter
Speaker 1: on the BIS is about JP Morgan and JP Morgan
Speaker 1: as a Rothschild front.
Speaker 3: So keep that in mind. The history of JP Morgan
Speaker 3: and what was that, guys?
Speaker 1: I forget the first JP Morgan operative was something like Treadmont.
Speaker 3: Tread Well or whatever.
Speaker 1: But eventually JP Morgan became very powerful in the US
Speaker 1: as a kind of front. This piece for the Rothchild
Speaker 1: banking click of Europe.
Speaker 4: Central genius in the world. Did you understand what Lehman
Speaker 4: Brothers is going to bankruptcy the domino effect that by
Speaker 4: Thursday the financial system would be under such extremis that
Speaker 4: if it didn't have a tree and dollar cash in
Speaker 4: fusion in the United States, it might collapse. Did you
Speaker 4: know that at the time? Did you view that at
Speaker 4: the time? Yes, you did?
Speaker 7: Ye.
Speaker 5: Why again, I don't want to bore you or the
Speaker 5: audio with the idea of it's a medical procedure, but
Speaker 5: you had system failures, so you'd recognize that if I
Speaker 5: said to you, did you realised when your father was
Speaker 5: on the ground and he was clutching his chest and
Speaker 5: he couldn't This.
Speaker 1: Is the same bullshit that we heard at nine to eleven, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: what happened? Well, it was a system failures. There was
Speaker 1: systemic failures, intelligence failures. Yeah, And just like with that event,
Speaker 1: we got massive bailouts of the intelligence surveillance superstructure being
Speaker 1: erected and set up and funded through the intelligence failures.
Speaker 3: So if you read a lot of the.
Speaker 1: Espionage literature, what you'll find out is that they're very
Speaker 1: candid and usually admitting that the biggest successes in intelligence
Speaker 1: agency's histories is there great failures, because it allows them
Speaker 1: to say, oh, well, so if we just had enough funding,
Speaker 1: we would have been protected against these systemic failures breath.
Speaker 5: It was a bad situation. He could die.
Speaker 4: That's how I did you know? Did you immediate think
Speaker 4: about the commercial paper marketing, the mechanical triggers that actually
Speaker 4: had to you had to blow through the circuit boards.
Speaker 4: Did you know the circuits? Did you understand the circuits
Speaker 4: or do you have a concept of the circus that
Speaker 4: ever in your blown through?
Speaker 5: Yes, but only because of an analogy to a body,
Speaker 5: and in fact from my my telephones against the wall
Speaker 5: with my little metal wires. Because the next day I
Speaker 5: took to another person in Washington about the issues of
Speaker 5: what I thought was happening, and I made the same
Speaker 5: discussion about the.
Speaker 4: They were at the Treasury Department. Yes, so in a
Speaker 4: in a six x nine cell, in six phones aroundsie
Speaker 4: of the cell.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, I've seen saying, Look, it's not the fault
Speaker 1: of derivatives.
Speaker 3: America just had a heart attack. I'm sorry, hey, listen, you.
Speaker 1: Know, maybe you you know, maybe America has a little
Speaker 1: bit of a heart attack. You know, Sorry, that has
Speaker 1: to happen that way, But that's maybe what has to happen.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a system failure.
Speaker 4: In County in a pond Beach County, Californias before West
Speaker 4: pondbe Florida.
Speaker 5: That's what you do, just diet West Pomba's.
Speaker 4: Florida, West Pompeas, Florida, West Ponds, Florida. You're making a
Speaker 4: call to Washington, d C. To talk to some deputy
Speaker 4: deputy's sex summer treasure, someone somewhere in treasure. And that
Speaker 4: does not the night before before you go to bed,
Speaker 4: it doesn't dawn on you at all. You never have
Speaker 4: a moment of self reflection that how did I end
Speaker 4: up on this metal cot when I should be at
Speaker 4: the center of thing.
Speaker 5: No, I had a telephone, so I've said I can
Speaker 5: talk to It makes no difference where I am. In fact,
Speaker 5: I'm still talking to the same person if I was
Speaker 5: at my home in pom Beach.
Speaker 1: So like a true Blowfield gangster or like something out
Speaker 1: of Goodfellas, or like he's he's running ship from the jail.
Speaker 1: He's like making calls and still doing his criminal Blowfield
Speaker 1: organization operations out of the damn community phone conference area
Speaker 1: at the prison. That's pretty crazy. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a couple of calls. We're progressing pretty good through the interview.
Speaker 1: We're almost halfway.
Speaker 3: Riika. Raika's right, now, what's up?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 3: Yep, what's up?
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 13: J Yeah, all right, cool. I'm gonna just a quick
Speaker 13: question and you could drop me. So back when we
Speaker 13: infiltrated it is, you know, dot Maduro or whatever. I
Speaker 13: was on Instagram and I saw this black comedian. He
Speaker 13: was like it was all a distraction from the jeff
Speaker 13: Stemon g Effrey files. And I just got me thinking,
Speaker 13: like all my life, I've been hearing it's a distraction.
Speaker 4: It's a distraction.
Speaker 12: I kind of put this filter up to just think
Speaker 12: everybody that's saying that is like, goofy, because.
Speaker 3: You just hear it all the time.
Speaker 5: So I'm just.
Speaker 12: Wondering, like from your reading of like Global ELITEX and
Speaker 12: things like that, like do you know of like some
Speaker 12: true signs of distractions and like real times this has
Speaker 12: actually happened when they distract us something that we could
Speaker 12: point to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great question. I think. Uh, there's that movie with.
Speaker 1: I never remember the name of this movie, but it's
Speaker 1: Jessica Chastain and she worked for a PR company and
Speaker 1: her job is basically to.
Speaker 3: Be a fixer, so she basically manages.
Speaker 1: PR crises, right, So when you have a crisis, a
Speaker 1: big politician, a banker, whoever, like, they can reach out
Speaker 1: for PR people to manage the crisis, and one of
Speaker 1: the things they do is flood it with like fake
Speaker 1: stories and fake news.
Speaker 3: So I would say, if you look at.
Speaker 1: Like what happened after pizzazz Gate, that was had some
Speaker 1: truth to it, and then they flooded it with all
Speaker 1: this kind of crazy, ridiculous stuff to get people to
Speaker 1: not pay attention to pizzazz Gate. Karl Rove I think,
Speaker 1: mentions an example where he did this In one of
Speaker 1: the early campaigns he brags about. He says he broke
Speaker 1: into the Democrat place and stole some of the letterhead
Speaker 1: from a rival political campaign I remember who it was.
Speaker 1: And then he says he forged something about that politician
Speaker 1: and then put it out and that damaged that politician.
Speaker 1: So Carl Rove has a famous example of this, I think,
Speaker 1: you know cognitive infiltrate. That is in the cast Sunsteen paper,
Speaker 1: he talks about doing this with fake conspiracies. So fake
Speaker 1: conspiracies are good examples, but when it comes to like
Speaker 1: mainstream stuff, it's hard to know when for sure something
Speaker 1: is a quote distraction, But I think you're right to
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 3: A lot of people repeat this.
Speaker 1: Kind of stuff because they think it sounds smart, right,
Speaker 1: so people just endlessly say the same stupid schill.
Speaker 3: This is a distraction from this thing. Maybe, Okay, do
Speaker 3: you know that? Are you just saying that?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: And yes, this is a shit lib movie, of course,
Speaker 1: but there is an insight into this movie, or in
Speaker 1: this movie, into how they manage crises. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you're right, Wag the Dog is another movie that has
Speaker 1: the same theme.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I put that in my first book, by the way,
Speaker 1: or second book, forget which one.
Speaker 3: What's it called?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not any of these, Is it Miss Sloan?
Speaker 1: Or is that that Poker movie? Because didn't I remember
Speaker 1: what this movie is. I never remember the name of
Speaker 1: this movie, even though bring it up like all the time,
Speaker 1: because it's it's one movie about I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's only two movies I know about this topic. There's
Speaker 1: Wag the Dog and then there's this public relations political thriller,
Speaker 1: which is weird because I think in the film somebody
Speaker 1: gets assassinated. And I want to say, this is before
Speaker 1: the seth Rich thing.
Speaker 6: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: Somebody helped me think of this movie. It's there only
Speaker 1: movie about public relations.
Speaker 3: It's not Dreams, not any of these.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Jessica Chastain, it's as she pops up, by
Speaker 1: the way, and a lot of these, you know, sort
Speaker 1: of CIA ish political thrillers, particularly films that the CIA
Speaker 1: actually consulted on, like Zero Dark thirty. So I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if she isn't one of the Miss Sloane
Speaker 1: that's it, thank you? Yeah, so Miss Sloan, Yeah, twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen film.
Speaker 3: That's it. And again it's from this democrat shit lip perspective.
Speaker 1: Obviously, anything from Hollywood is going to be that, but
Speaker 1: it is insightful into how they manage and steer crises.
Speaker 1: So this would be a good film for that.
Speaker 3: But Nick, what's up?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, what's up? What's on your mind?
Speaker 11: I just wanted to ask like sort of a political
Speaker 11: kind of question, but more philosophical. Okay, So, if like
Speaker 11: the political what is of Like if the political spectrum
Speaker 11: is kind of defined by like, you know, the far
Speaker 11: left being communism, the modern the moderate left being liberalism,
Speaker 11: and then the sort of right with like fascism on
Speaker 11: the far right and conservatism on the modern right or
Speaker 11: the moderate right, and we kind of like, from an
Speaker 11: Orthodox perspective, you kind of reject that whole spectrum onto
Speaker 11: logically because it's like, you know, I was reading Father
Speaker 11: Sarah from Rose book Nihilism, and you're talking about how
Speaker 11: it's like all fundamentally like kind of vain or vapid.
Speaker 11: But anyway, so how should what does the political spectrum
Speaker 11: look like from like an Orthodox theology point of view
Speaker 11: or is there just like one like belief that Orthodox
Speaker 11: believer should have.
Speaker 1: Like politically, I mean, I defend Orthodox Christian monarchy that's
Speaker 1: the traditional church's perspective and view, and support Orthodox Imperium's antheum.
Speaker 1: That's the structure and the model. In fact, we have
Speaker 1: a super chat right now about that. Jamails is for
Speaker 1: thirty dollars. Months ago you recommend it to me to
Speaker 1: read Reflections of a Russian Statesman. It's a tremendous read.
Speaker 1: Now it's on my reading list, thank you, Jay. So
Speaker 1: that's a good one to check out because it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's a pre modern perspective on the relationship.
Speaker 3: To church and state.
Speaker 1: So that's what I would say is the normative traditional perspective. However,
Speaker 1: we aren't in any kind of situation where it's actually
Speaker 1: realistic to think that there will be any near future
Speaker 1: and Orthodox Christian monarch. So I think, you know, with
Speaker 1: that being the case, pragmatically speaking, you try to do,
Speaker 1: I guess the best you can at a local level
Speaker 1: to implement you know, as many Christian principles as you
Speaker 1: could if you are interested in being involved in politics.
Speaker 1: But you know that's that depends on your interest in
Speaker 1: your calling, not a race called politics, not a rays
Speaker 1: interested in politics. So people are saying Edge of this
Speaker 1: is a great political thrill. Yeah, it's it's a conspiracy classic.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've got it included here in our Mel
Speaker 1: Gibson podcast. We did, we did Brave Heart, Apocalypto, conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: Edge of Darkness of course. Uh shout out to based
Speaker 1: trad Mel. Mel's an awesome honorable dude. Mel went to
Speaker 1: Athos and was taking tons and tons of pictures with
Speaker 1: Ortho uh serbs, Orthomnastics, Greek Orthodox. He was all over
Speaker 1: Athos and yeah, so pray for the tradcats you know,
Speaker 1: to come in our move in our direction. As you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: roam will get worse and worse.
Speaker 3: So boo boo, what's up? Boo boo a bo what's
Speaker 3: you doing? Got a a mute.
Speaker 1: Jay?
Speaker 3: Should have been a movie critic. I was a movie critic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's up?
Speaker 14: I just had a question kind of pertaining to the
Speaker 14: Epstein files.
Speaker 1: Okay, I.
Speaker 14: Use TikTok, which I don't think you approve of.
Speaker 3: But I mean I'm on TikTok.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think you are. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just think it like mind bombs people to become retards.
Speaker 13: But go ahead, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 14: But so I've been seeing like Candice Owen's TikTok. So
Speaker 14: I also saw a TikTok about Erica Kirk, kind of
Speaker 14: like a conspiracy theory that she may have been trafficking
Speaker 14: children for Epstein.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you saw that, and I just
Speaker 8: kind of wanted your opinion on it.
Speaker 3: I have not seen that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Anything about that. I mean, again, if evidence pops up
Speaker 1: of that, people should talk about it and cover it.
Speaker 1: But so much stuff that's going around now is just bullshit. Right,
Speaker 1: People are just like spreading, and TikTok is the worst
Speaker 1: for just absolutely mind numbing, insane, dumb stuff to go viral.
Speaker 3: So I do think there's a lot of questions with TPUSA.
Speaker 3: For example, that.
Speaker 1: Morgan Aerial Chick was trying to act like, oh, all
Speaker 1: the Candae questioners just got owned because Erica Kirk said
Speaker 1: that Charlie really did think that traffic lights would shut.
Speaker 3: Off when he walked by them.
Speaker 1: How is that an own of anything that actually makes
Speaker 1: you more retarded? Because first of all, the whole idea
Speaker 1: that being around a traffic light or a street light
Speaker 1: itself shutting off is in some way some sort of
Speaker 1: mystical indicator of anything is retarded, first and foremost. Secondly,
Speaker 1: nobody was saying that Charlie Kirk necessarily didn't say that.
Speaker 1: They were just saying that it's a retarded thing to eat,
Speaker 1: even try to argue for anything, it proves nothing. And
Speaker 1: then they shift it into when Candace finds a clip
Speaker 1: or some proof of something more retarded.
Speaker 3: They think that's an own against Candace. Critics.
Speaker 1: No, it actually makes you look dumber, you idiot. And
Speaker 1: what do we see Candace saying this week? More retarded stuff?
Speaker 1: This is like, it's beyond quadrupling down. It's what we're
Speaker 1: sex tupling down. Because now it's not just mystical street
Speaker 1: lamp powers because of his vibes, because he was in
Speaker 1: the Gate program, I was in the Gay program.
Speaker 3: It's not it's not Professor X, it's not X men.
Speaker 1: Now they do study people and children, that's part of
Speaker 1: MK ultra, but there's no evidence that they were trying
Speaker 1: to metaphysically take out Charlie because they saw in the
Speaker 1: future timelines that he would save the world. It's just insanity, dude,
Speaker 1: totally retarded insanity. And this is literally what she says,
Speaker 1: like every day now, every day her show is the
Speaker 1: next level of X Files silliness.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 9: That's why that sentence caught my attention. In the article,
Speaker 9: you spoke about the street lamps that would go off
Speaker 9: when he would run about the special school but he
Speaker 9: had to go to. You spoke about a lot of
Speaker 9: the things that were strange in our childhood, the testing
Speaker 9: that both of us had to endure.
Speaker 1: We spoke about the.
Speaker 9: Fact that we could both astral project.
Speaker 6: You know all of this.
Speaker 1: Of course you have a so her and Charlie are
Speaker 1: mystical interdimensional twin flames that astral project and speak to
Speaker 1: each other. Because remember Charlie spoke to her out of purgatory.
Speaker 1: Her priest told her, and that's how she knows intuitively
Speaker 1: what's going on. So like people want to believe this
Speaker 1: over what's actually in the Epstein files, the actual documented
Speaker 1: prove things, the real like bombshell stuff. People would rather
Speaker 1: be talking about this retarded stuff. Of course, no surprise.
Speaker 1: But when somebody said you should have been a movie critic, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did a whole full production TV show right here
Speaker 1: being a movie critic. You can check it out right there.
Speaker 1: That was twenty eighteen sixteen. So a lot of what's
Speaker 1: going on in this the Candice sphere, for example, it's
Speaker 1: very closely. It's very similar to what you see with
Speaker 1: the thought about bitcoin, right like when we saw Benny
Speaker 1: Johnson interviewing Mike Ben's and they said, oh, bitcoin is fake,
Speaker 1: and they played the clip of Dan Payna clipped, not
Speaker 1: the full clip, half the clip where.
Speaker 3: Dan Payne says, the idiot boomer if.
Speaker 1: You know who that bitcoin? Who created a you would
Speaker 1: tell you a bitcoin? It's called a zero, And they're
Speaker 1: thinking that the clip is about Epstein. The full clip
Speaker 1: has them saying it's putin literal boomer tard retardation. They
Speaker 1: didn't even play the full clip. The supposed journalist Benny
Speaker 1: Johnson didn't didn't even take the time to.
Speaker 3: Look up the full clip.
Speaker 1: And if you think Putin created bitcoin, please go away
Speaker 1: from the stream. Don't even be on my stream. A
Speaker 1: lot of people say, I wish Putin hadn't created a bitcoin.
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, I thought it was the NSA
Speaker 1: and the CIA that created bitcoin. What they did it
Speaker 1: together with Putin? Wait till Candae says that next. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get back to Jeffson again for here.
Speaker 4: But I'm here with j oh No.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I did want to mention were you cover up for TPUSC?
Speaker 1: Were you cover up? Dude? I've already done multiple streams
Speaker 1: for you years about CIA evangelical black ops churches, that
Speaker 1: they're fake and gay. For years we did streams on that.
Speaker 1: Ten years ago.
Speaker 6: Why you defended tip USDA, Well, what you call it?
Speaker 6: Michael Lokeno in Paul Volee, You.
Speaker 1: Mean ten years ago when Michael mckino cided in my
Speaker 1: book Mine Warsiowar ten years ago?
Speaker 6: Well, where are you gonna talk about tip USDA's bush out?
Speaker 4: But you can also make a thousand phone calls. Here,
Speaker 4: you gotta make one and he's got a killing.
Speaker 1: How much better that was.
Speaker 5: I had to decide who is the right person to call.
Speaker 5: That was unusual for me because I would have called
Speaker 5: twenty people.
Speaker 4: And what was this? What was the advice you gave me?
Speaker 5: I said, we have you have a sick patient, and
Speaker 5: it's very much like a sick patient in the emergency room.
Speaker 5: Don't you can't think about it like your car. People
Speaker 5: in normal walks of life think about money.
Speaker 1: And dude, nobody has talked about intelligence agencies and churches
Speaker 1: more than me.
Speaker 3: I've been doing that for over ten years.
Speaker 1: Actually type in CIA and religion or CIA in churches.
Speaker 4: What do you know?
Speaker 1: Seven eight years ago, thirty thousand views, how the CIA
Speaker 1: subverts churches and religions. Ten months ago we did a
Speaker 1: three hour almost stream on CIA, KGB, NGOs, think tanks
Speaker 1: and Christianity. Five years ago, Church spies, CIAKGB, churches and geopolitics,
Speaker 1: Intelligence agencies in the church.
Speaker 2: Right here.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Rachel Wilson, by the way, because she
Speaker 1: also has been doing many Mani podcasts on the exact
Speaker 1: same topic. Now, there was a recent stream specifically on
Speaker 1: evangelical black ops churches and we were commenting on.
Speaker 3: Candice and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Uh So let me find you that one because that
Speaker 1: one is probably most relevant for this Candice Owans and
Speaker 1: evangelical black ops business church right here three almost three
Speaker 1: months ago, there's a whole three hour stream on it.
Speaker 3: Will you talk about two PUSA?
Speaker 6: Will you talk about evangelical black ops troops?
Speaker 1: Will don't you talk about the thing that you're the
Speaker 1: dude that talked.
Speaker 3: About the boat.
Speaker 1: I'm the dude on this topic. Nobody has covered this
Speaker 1: topic more than me in the last decade. And to
Speaker 1: have absolute retards come here.
Speaker 6: And say he won't cover the evangelical black ops CIA
Speaker 6: churches coast who's the fee works for two pusas he's
Speaker 6: a love.
Speaker 5: RK Kirk, he goes to crush our Kirk.
Speaker 3: He's paid shill.
Speaker 1: Oh way, if you go out to my channel and
Speaker 1: you type in charismatic, that's another one, dude. Some of
Speaker 1: those six hour streams have like sixty thousand views, So like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And I call out the
Speaker 1: charismatic churches as money laundering fraud scam institutions. And it's
Speaker 1: weird because it doesn't matter how many times you call
Speaker 1: it out, and it doesn't matter matter how.
Speaker 3: Many clips channels clip it.
Speaker 1: You won't call this out because you're you're part of it.
Speaker 1: Five years ago, Business Church calling out megachurches sixty five
Speaker 1: thousand views on a four hour live stream. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that TikTok ruined your attention span that you can't go
Speaker 1: actually listen to a full podcast. That's not my fault.
Speaker 1: That's your fault for spending all your time bombing your.
Speaker 3: Mind on TikTok. That's your fault. It's not mine.
Speaker 1: By the way, Rachel literally just went on Cleeve last
Speaker 1: week talking about the subject. Shout out to Cleve. Let's
Speaker 1: see if that's still up. So we come over here,
Speaker 1: let's see if it's under maybe it's under live streams.
Speaker 3: Let's see.
Speaker 1: Oh look at this right here, how the CIA and
Speaker 1: Big Foundations subverted Christianity right there?
Speaker 3: And I think Cleve and I did a stream on
Speaker 3: that too.
Speaker 7: Is it this one?
Speaker 1: So here is Rachel discussing it with Cleve. I want
Speaker 1: to say, Rachel and I did.
Speaker 3: A podcast on this too. I can't remember. There's there's
Speaker 3: every day there's podcasts.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we just cleve and I discussed
Speaker 1: it here in this one too, so check that out.
Speaker 1: Given props to other people. Anyway, We're never going to
Speaker 1: finish Jeffs time.
Speaker 3: But that's okay. What's up, brave heart, braveheart, you went
Speaker 3: on you.
Speaker 1: I called about ten days ago, so.
Speaker 10: Hoping tonight I might actually get an answer.
Speaker 8: My question is kind of on the subject that you're
Speaker 8: talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh, you were you got mad because we made the
Speaker 1: wine mom joke?
Speaker 3: Sorry, can you hear me? Yeah, you got mad because
Speaker 3: we made a wine mom joke. It's just joke, Okay.
Speaker 14: I I didn't hear the word, and I don't drink
Speaker 14: the line that you talked about, So, yeah, you.
Speaker 8: Had a fun.
Speaker 3: It's just a joke. Can you not take a joke?
Speaker 15: It's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 5: But what I'm trying to say is I really do.
Speaker 10: I do respect you, Jay, Okay, And the reason I
Speaker 10: am asking you the question is because of your background
Speaker 10: and your knowledge.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I respect that.
Speaker 3: Wait, I need to ask it because you didn't answer it.
Speaker 15: You jumped right into this whole Candice thing.
Speaker 1: I literally just answered your question in the last five minutes,
Speaker 1: the last five of course, it does what do you mean.
Speaker 3: Doesn't bring her up?
Speaker 15: I had nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: I don't follow her.
Speaker 14: Okay, listen, I asked.
Speaker 1: You a simple what I thought was a simple question.
Speaker 1: You said, why aren't you covering Erica? To answer, you said,
Speaker 1: why aren't you covered? I did, gosh, no, look at it?
Speaker 5: Can I just get the question out?
Speaker 3: You said, why don't you cover Erica and TPUSA? And
Speaker 3: I said, I didn't say that, Yes, I didn't.
Speaker 10: I asked you, what does your discernment tell you?
Speaker 6: What did it tell you before?
Speaker 3: Come on, that's what you meant by saying that.
Speaker 10: Erica kneel next to his coffin long before anybody came
Speaker 10: up with any theories.
Speaker 3: I knew my four year old grandsons.
Speaker 1: Okay, good. When did I defend Erica Kirk back then?
Speaker 7: And I get it. You're the expert on all this, You've.
Speaker 6: Done it for years, five years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, you're okay, fine, you win. You exposed
Speaker 1: me and make some exposed clips. You're still mad, Emerald?
Speaker 3: What's up? What's up?
Speaker 10: Huh?
Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 16: Hey, I had a question with all the Epstein stuff,
Speaker 16: so I know obviously, like you know, they hate children.
Speaker 3: I was learning it from what you've seen.
Speaker 16: Is there any like are they the ones that have
Speaker 16: kind of caused and pushed like the whole abortion agenda.
Speaker 1: Or do you think that they just mainly have benefited
Speaker 1: from it. Well, you have a lot of people in
Speaker 1: this sphere of the Zio who openly say a bobo
Speaker 1: abortions are a sacrament.
Speaker 3: They're part of our religion.
Speaker 1: So yes, I think they see it as part of
Speaker 1: warfare to abort the children of people who are their
Speaker 1: perceived enemies. They see it as useful for experimentation. We
Speaker 1: saw Peter Nigard and those interviews that we played says
Speaker 1: I will pay you black chicks for your fetal cells.
Speaker 3: So it's experience.
Speaker 1: It's all the above and probably worse stuff. So Maxwell,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 2: You hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So one second before you say to the Maxwell, I
Speaker 3: actually forgot. I just saw the tab.
Speaker 1: We need to get back into some Proverbs, right, So
Speaker 1: we're going to start doing one chapter of Proverbs on
Speaker 1: a livestream because people don't have wisdom, so hopefully we
Speaker 1: can gain a little wisdom and practical insight through maybe
Speaker 1: just a little bit of Proverbs. Every time we do
Speaker 1: a live stream, because we're not short of knowledge. Okay,
Speaker 1: this society is overly inundated with data. What we actually
Speaker 1: need is wisdom to apply the data and the information.
Speaker 1: So the between knowledge and wisdom, wisdom is the application
Speaker 1: of knowledge in the right way, at the right time,
Speaker 1: in the right place.
Speaker 3: So what's up, Maxwell, Hey, I just wanted to ask.
Speaker 2: How how do I explain to someone that's not Orthodox
Speaker 2: or doesn't even want to come to it, how we
Speaker 2: are not fair season we are not as legalistic as
Speaker 2: they are.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I would get them to define and.
Speaker 1: Get them to tell you what they think a pharisee
Speaker 1: is and what it means, because a lot of times,
Speaker 1: especially if it's like a Protestant or Evangelical, like, they're
Speaker 1: gonna explain a lot of things about a pharisee that
Speaker 1: could apply to any group, any denomination. Any Baptist pastor
Speaker 1: could potentially be a pharisee. So just get them to
Speaker 1: be really precise and then say, well, let's look at
Speaker 1: the things that characterize the pharisees in scripture. Right, it's
Speaker 1: not tradition, it's tradition in the place of the Word
Speaker 1: of God. It's not having robes it's being obsessed with
Speaker 1: the external appearances and praying on the street corners.
Speaker 3: Right, it's those externals and focusing on the.
Speaker 1: Externals that characterize the Pharisee and the hypocrisy and all that,
Speaker 1: and those characteristics can conceivably be anywhere, so it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be unique to Orthodoxy. And if those are the things
Speaker 1: that are problematic, then why does Jesus say that the
Speaker 1: Pharisees sit in the seat of Moses and they have
Speaker 1: the authority, but do as they say.
Speaker 3: Not as they do?
Speaker 1: Right, So, even using Pharisees can be an under can
Speaker 1: undercut the Protestant argumentation.
Speaker 2: I just asked that specifically because today of being asked
Speaker 2: why is that? I was just telling someone that are
Speaker 2: in our church today or next Sunday, we're going to
Speaker 2: have a clowning for people that or a couple that
Speaker 2: has been orthodox orthook about ten years or five, but
Speaker 2: they've been made for thirty five years.
Speaker 9: Well, the husband is going to become a deacon.
Speaker 2: They wanted an official, a church officiated wedding.
Speaker 1: Sure, and asked why do they need that? They're made
Speaker 1: as God? I said, if you can just say that's.
Speaker 4: Madidens as of God.
Speaker 10: Without doing that, you can say anything anything is right.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, I think agains.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, this has to do with the Orthodox view
Speaker 1: of the sacraments, that we don't typically recognize sacraments outside
Speaker 1: the Orthodox Church. And even if there is a recognition
Speaker 1: of the ritual being done, and then the decision by
Speaker 1: the bishop to not redo the ritual, that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: mean that we're saying that they had all the sacramental graces.
Speaker 1: That also doesn't mean that we're saying that protests don't
Speaker 1: have any grace. It's just simply saying that we don't
Speaker 1: know and we're not recognizing what's going on out there
Speaker 1: that's outside of our domain of judgment. Remember, Paul says
Speaker 1: to the church, I think at Corinth he says, he says,
Speaker 1: do not judge those that are without, you make judgments
Speaker 1: about those that are within. And so it's because of
Speaker 1: the unique nature of the ecclesiology Orthodox Church that it's
Speaker 1: a fixed, unique soule sacramental institution that undergirds those ideas. Now,
Speaker 1: in the case of that person, not everybody necessarily has
Speaker 1: to redo the ceremony, but it's a very very beautiful ceremony.
Speaker 1: So for example, in our church in Florida, we've had
Speaker 1: multiple couples that have wanted to do that because they
Speaker 1: wanted the full you know, ritual and service. It's the
Speaker 1: same with baptism. It's like, can the grace of God
Speaker 1: make up for a Protestant baptism if you weren't quote
Speaker 1: baptized in the Orthodox Church. Yeah, the grace of God
Speaker 1: can make up for it. But a lot of people want,
Speaker 1: for example, the exorcism prayers, and most churches, you know,
Speaker 1: Rounmancollolic Church, like you don't get the extorcism prayers, and
Speaker 1: they want that as part of their interests into the church.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I think with a person that
Speaker 1: is just sort of out of hand thinking everything is Phariseeism,
Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty difficult, you know, to explain
Speaker 1: a lot of the history and the nuance to that
Speaker 1: kind of really low tier Protestant objection. But you know,
Speaker 1: in time maybe they can start to get it. But
Speaker 1: bon Jovi fifty dollars. This may be a reach. But
Speaker 1: do you think that the way that the files are
Speaker 1: put out that this pushes us closer to some form
Speaker 1: of AI governance? Oh that's an interesting theory. I haven't
Speaker 1: anybody propose that yet. I think that eventually they want
Speaker 1: to go to you know, AI governance, but maybe if
Speaker 1: they get enough people sort of dumbed down in the
Speaker 1: rec you know, Reddit TikTok spear to think that AI
Speaker 1: will be an impartial, righteous judge, which is really stupid
Speaker 1: because it's only going to be as impartial as the
Speaker 1: people who program it, which is why we see, for example,
Speaker 1: AI even now can either be based or woke depending
Speaker 1: upon how it's programmed.
Speaker 3: So could be that's an interesting theory. Uh, you know,
Speaker 3: you do have no Javol Harari.
Speaker 1: Saying stuff like well, when the AI is advanced enough,
Speaker 1: you know, we won't need human politicians and judges, and
Speaker 1: we won't be you know, subject to the typical human
Speaker 1: passions and corruptions, and oh want it be better when
Speaker 1: AI is running all the governments and all that.
Speaker 3: So they're definitely pushing that angle.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that had anything to do with
Speaker 1: motivating the disclosure.
Speaker 3: So Mario five dollars.
Speaker 1: Not to distract from the stream, but I would love
Speaker 1: your take on the post millennial theory. You've done research.
Speaker 1: It's one thing that makes everything makes sense. After you've
Speaker 1: done research. I mean, I've been into post millennialism since
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Dude, what are you talking about
Speaker 1: after do some research. I've read all the post millennial writers.
Speaker 1: I have all their books on that shelf, so I
Speaker 1: tend to favor the post mail view. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to be a douchebags. I don't
Speaker 1: have to do research on it.
Speaker 3: But thank you for this, Phoenix.
Speaker 1: Phoenix e er fifty dollars blessed feast of Saint Theodore
Speaker 1: the Commander in Great Martyr to those of us on
Speaker 1: the new calendar. Thank you, Phoenix, appreciate that that's a
Speaker 1: generous superchet. You guys are being very interest tonight Imperial
Speaker 1: Analysts and Imperial Analysis twenty dollurs. Great work, Jay, I
Speaker 1: love your content. I've been watching for four years. Do
Speaker 1: more gaming streams, yes, I do intend to. I was
Speaker 1: gonna do more Alan Wake, but the problem is that
Speaker 1: I got in this habit of where after the live
Speaker 1: stream I would go play Alan Wake. And now I'm
Speaker 1: almost done with Alan Wake, I've almost beat it. So
Speaker 1: I kind of shot myself in the foot because when
Speaker 1: I started the game, I didn't really know what I
Speaker 1: was doing, and now I'm almost done with it. But
Speaker 1: here's the good news. We will definitely do the new
Speaker 1: Resident Evil. I can guarantee you one hund percent. I
Speaker 1: will livestream that I played and beat every Resident Evil ever.
Speaker 3: I love Resident Evil.
Speaker 1: In fact, I might just redo Resident Evil for you guys,
Speaker 1: because I've beaten that through like five times, so that
Speaker 1: one I know, I won't embarrass myself on a lot
Speaker 1: of people said, do arc creaders, I may do that.
Speaker 1: I also got way further in cyberpunk too, so we
Speaker 1: will definitely do more gaming seres promise. They're a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. I'm Orthodox. I have Orthodox friends who are
Speaker 1: pushing the Augustinian Original Sin damnation of infants view.
Speaker 3: It's retarded. It is a retarded. In fact, we had a.
Speaker 1: Comment today from Nikolai Korea. Shout out to Nikolai, and
Speaker 1: he quoted Father Stephen de Young, and Father Stephen Young said,
Speaker 1: I don't know any Orthodox bishops, nor have I ever
Speaker 1: heard of one, Nor is my bishop a believer in
Speaker 1: inherited guilt? Again, why would we get our theology from
Speaker 1: seventeen year old furries on Twitter? And I am not joking.
Speaker 1: One of the main proponents of this nonsense is a
Speaker 1: literal seventeen year old furry. I don't think that's wise
Speaker 1: to go to for theology. Demi Urge three dollars, excellent work, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Koobian soldier. Well, speaking of demi urge and gnosticism. Next
Speaker 1: Monday on the Crucible, I will be debating Monday night
Speaker 1: Gnostic informant.
Speaker 3: Who who turns out is not Gnostic.
Speaker 1: I know, it was really ridiculous of me to assume
Speaker 1: that Gnostic informant was a Gnostic budd He's not, and
Speaker 1: we will be debating his monism even though he's an Aristatilian,
Speaker 1: which Aristota was a dualist, a diadist. But he's an
Speaker 1: Aristotilian monist, so that'll be fun. Monday Night on the Crucible,
Speaker 1: Vain says for three dollars, I will be baptized in
Speaker 1: the Orthodox Church this month. They shout out to Vain,
Speaker 1: longtime super chatter, longtime audience bro. Welcome, God reaches people
Speaker 1: through your work. Thank you.
Speaker 3: That actually keeps me.
Speaker 1: Fueled up. I feel like I'm doing the right thing
Speaker 1: when you guys remind you, though, Dragos one dollar, Dragos
Speaker 1: one dollar, Jay, what about placebo effect. What do you
Speaker 1: think about rehabilitating an injury through that is or a
Speaker 1: hired I honestly don't know.
Speaker 3: Anything about placebo studies.
Speaker 1: I've been meditating, breathing and thinking of nothing, no enlightenment,
Speaker 1: non enlightenment for a mental reason. I can stay more
Speaker 1: conscious throughout the day as opposed to scrolling TikTok?
Speaker 3: Is it a neutral thing?
Speaker 1: Explained? Well, I appreciate your comment, but I don't exactly
Speaker 1: know what you mean.
Speaker 3: Dregs.
Speaker 1: I gave you two dollars worth of donations about breathing.
Speaker 3: Are they too cheap?
Speaker 1: I just don't know what it means. Welcome to all
Speaker 1: the new members. We got about ten or so new
Speaker 1: members dre us five bucks. Robert Maxwell's publishing company was
Speaker 1: pergham On. They published Changing Images of Man. Yes, we
Speaker 1: mentioned that when we did our Changing Images of Man lectures,
Speaker 1: which was I think the last global elite text that
Speaker 1: we did.
Speaker 3: And we are presently still working through the Old Boys,
Speaker 3: and I have not forgotten.
Speaker 1: I know people are waiting for the part two because
Speaker 1: it's been several weeks, but we got so inundated with
Speaker 1: jeff Say McAffrey information that I've not gotten back yet
Speaker 1: to old boys, although I am ready to do the
Speaker 1: part two about the Palma five dollars. In this world
Speaker 1: of day so much data, how do we digest information
Speaker 1: and make it stick? How do we gain wisdom and
Speaker 1: intelligence and apply it? Great question that is definitely a
Speaker 1: challenge in the never ending infinity data world that we're in. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and kick off our wisdom section.
Speaker 3: This will be our wisdom.
Speaker 1: Segment. We're going to actually see if we can gain
Speaker 1: some wisdom them. Of course, Proverbs was for those who
Speaker 1: don't know a catechism. It was intended to be a
Speaker 1: catechism for young men during the Old Testament period. And
Speaker 1: of course this said the Church for authers often recommend
Speaker 1: the wisdom text and catechism are Proverbs and other putercononical
Speaker 1: texts for catechisis, So it's pretty much the same for
Speaker 1: us as well. So let's read one chapter and see
Speaker 1: if we can gain wisdom. We'll make this a segment
Speaker 1: in every one of our streams. Proverbs eleven, we're gonna
Speaker 1: skip past the chapters on I guess I should begin
Speaker 1: with ten the wisdom chapters. So we're going to start
Speaker 1: with ten because the all the way up to nine
Speaker 1: are the wisdom texts? Are rusa ten dollars and he's
Speaker 1: got a hanka condelabra. Are you a Russian spot? Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Russian spot. Never been to Russia, been invited to Russia,
Speaker 1: haven't gone. But because I'm an Orthodox Christian, I must
Speaker 1: be a Russian spy. And what's funny is that people
Speaker 1: don't even realize that most of the people that are
Speaker 1: expatriots who make up ro corps in Europe and in America,
Speaker 1: we're actually fleeing Bolsheviks and the NKVD and were aided
Speaker 1: by the CIA and British intelligence to come to the West,
Speaker 1: the White Russians, for example.
Speaker 3: But today's people are so dumbed down, no nuanced.
Speaker 1: They assume Russian Orthodox churches must be KGB, even though
Speaker 1: the KGB persecuted ro Cort in Russian church. This is
Speaker 1: what people think. Love the tradcats think this. It's completely stupid. Proverbs,
Speaker 1: a wise son makes a glad father, but a foolish
Speaker 1: son is a grief to his mother. So honoring our
Speaker 1: father and mother is very important in Proverbs. In the
Speaker 1: beginning of categy. Here now at the beginning of Proverbs,
Speaker 1: we learn that the fear of the Lord is the
Speaker 1: beginning of wisdom. And that's relevant, I think for the atheists,
Speaker 1: because all of the atheists number one flaw isn't really
Speaker 1: their lack of information or IQ. It's actually a moral problem.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with the fool has said in his
Speaker 1: heart there's no God in the Psalm. So atheism is
Speaker 1: actually a moral and spiritual problem that has to do
Speaker 1: with pride and arrogance as opposed to a lack of
Speaker 1: evidence or knowledge. Treasures of wickedness profit nothing, but righteousness
Speaker 1: delivers from death. So if we make our focus on
Speaker 1: just getting paid and stack stack in cash, our life.
Speaker 3: Will be profitless, our life will be travail.
Speaker 1: But it's more important to be righteous, to live according
Speaker 1: to the virtue, according to the Ten Commandments. That's more
Speaker 1: important than attaining wealth. But of course most of this
Speaker 1: world follows the attainment of wealth over any concern for righteousness.
Speaker 1: The Lord will not allow the righteous soul to famish,
Speaker 1: but he casts away the desire of the wicked. And
Speaker 1: remember and a lot of the proverbs we have what
Speaker 1: are kind of it's its own unique type of literature,
Speaker 1: wisdom literature, and they're giving generalities, so we have to
Speaker 1: understand what we interpret these. These are not absolute universal claims. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not as if no righteous person was ever hungry,
Speaker 1: but generally speaking, God will provide for his people and
Speaker 1: not allow them to be destroyed or to go hungry.
Speaker 1: And that could be interpreted both physically and spiritually as well.
Speaker 1: And we should always put a course the spiritual first
Speaker 1: over the physical and the temporal. He who is lazy
Speaker 1: or has a slack hand becomes poor, but the hand
Speaker 1: of the diligence makes one rich. Now, notice how many
Speaker 1: of the proverbs deal with economics, and we have a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are super spiritual, and they're too
Speaker 1: spiritual for money and economics, especially when they're broke, young
Speaker 1: dudes who don't want to think about how to actually
Speaker 1: make money or be successful.
Speaker 3: It's much easier to piety.
Speaker 1: Signal and talk about how spiritual they are, even though
Speaker 1: they're not actually monks or monastics, or they haven't taken
Speaker 1: emails of poverty. They use that as a way to
Speaker 1: feel better than other people, when in fact, no, it
Speaker 1: is still the case that working hard is what will
Speaker 1: make you successful, both in terms of spiritual things and
Speaker 1: in terms of earthly things, he who gathers in the
Speaker 1: summer as a white sun, but who sleeps in harvests
Speaker 1: a son who causes shame.
Speaker 3: So here we have another one against sloth.
Speaker 1: So the idea that just laying around and wasting time
Speaker 1: and not doing anything, not putting the hand to work
Speaker 1: or savings. Notice this is also a principal economically of
Speaker 1: saving money. Now, fiat money not the wisest thing to save.
Speaker 1: You might want to have some fiat money saved up for,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's not always easy to get out
Speaker 1: of gold or out of bitcoin per se. But until
Speaker 1: we get onto a bitcoin standard, you might want to
Speaker 1: have some fiat. And certainly gold is better than fiat.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, I would say, in my view, bitcoin is
Speaker 1: the ultimate time tested Well, I think we'll see it's
Speaker 1: time tested, but compared to gold, it will be the
Speaker 1: ultimate time test of money because it's already been way
Speaker 1: more successful than gold has been. If you compare the
Speaker 1: last fifteen years. Blessings are on the head of the righteous,
Speaker 1: but violence covers the mouth of the wicked.
Speaker 3: Think about the way that the people in.
Speaker 1: The Antifa and the leftist crowd operates right. Think about revolutionaries.
Speaker 1: Think about robes Pier or Trotsky or Linen, and these
Speaker 1: people are out for blood. The left these days they
Speaker 1: want blood right Why because they're wicked, Because their violence
Speaker 1: even comes out of their mouth. They can't even talk
Speaker 1: without expressing a demonic furre to have blood in violence.
Speaker 1: But those that are righteous, that don't follow that path,
Speaker 1: we end up blessed. The memory of the righteous is
Speaker 1: even blessed, but the name of the wicked will rot.
Speaker 1: This is another proverb that backs up the idea of
Speaker 1: saints and honoring the lives of the saints, honoring the
Speaker 1: relics and the images of the saints. Because their memory
Speaker 1: is a blessing, it is blessed. But wicked men, oftentimes
Speaker 1: in history go out with a bang and no one
Speaker 1: remembers them. Their name rots, they get forgotten. Here's a
Speaker 1: really important one for what we deal with on a
Speaker 1: daily basis.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: It definitely applies to today's dream, but it applies to
Speaker 1: everybody in our lives. A wise man receives instruction, receives commands,
Speaker 1: receives rebukes, but prattling fools fail and will fall. Think
Speaker 1: about the debate sphere. How appropriate is this to the
Speaker 1: debate sphere. How many prattling fools have we heard over
Speaker 1: the last five, seven, ten years of online debate? How
Speaker 1: many prattling feminists have Andrew and Rachel encountered? How many
Speaker 1: prattling atheists prattling feminists like not so erudite that I've
Speaker 1: encountered and debated?
Speaker 3: And what happens?
Speaker 1: They make fools of themselves their very words, hang themselves
Speaker 1: within their own five minute diarrhea.
Speaker 3: Fits.
Speaker 1: But a person who's wise is willing to receive instruction.
Speaker 1: He's willing to be corrected, willing to follow the truth
Speaker 1: no matter what.
Speaker 3: That's the goal here.
Speaker 1: The wise man doesn't try to make reality fit.
Speaker 3: What he wants to be the case. He follows the
Speaker 3: truth and thus is willing to.
Speaker 1: Be wrong, willing to be correct, and willing to be instructed.
Speaker 1: Everybody should be willing to be that way. He who
Speaker 1: walks with integrity will walk surely, but those that pervert
Speaker 1: their way will become known. So remember, personal integrity is
Speaker 1: very important, and your reputation with other people is really
Speaker 1: important too. And when it comes to integrity, if you
Speaker 1: do not have integrity, what ends up happening is eventually
Speaker 1: you burn the bridges with everybody else right, mainly because
Speaker 1: you don't have integrity. How many people have we seen
Speaker 1: in the media sphere, in the alt media sphere of
Speaker 1: the internet sphere, with no integrity, who burn all the bridges,
Speaker 1: lose all their friends, stab everybody else in the back,
Speaker 1: and they pervert their way, and ultimately a lot of
Speaker 1: of times this becomes known. The mouth of the righteous
Speaker 1: is a well of life, but violence covers the mouth
Speaker 1: of the wicked. Again, so the righteous is a well
Speaker 1: of life. We can think of Jacob's well, we can
Speaker 1: think of the woman out the well. We can think
Speaker 1: of Jesus comparing himself to the flowing forth of the
Speaker 1: waters of life as the ultimate well. Jesus say, is
Speaker 1: that well, and his words are life. And so likewise
Speaker 1: those of us who talk and explain this to other people,
Speaker 1: as our catechisms say, those are works of mercy, to
Speaker 1: correct the errant, to rebuke the wicked. In our little catechisms,
Speaker 1: in our little prayer books, we learn that those are
Speaker 1: good things to do, and it is actually good to
Speaker 1: do that. Now, you can have bad motives for doing that,
Speaker 1: but as long as you're doing it with good motives,
Speaker 1: those are good things. And Thus the righteous own well spring,
Speaker 1: out of his own heart, out of his own mouth,
Speaker 1: becomes a fountain of life. Hatred stirs up strife, but
Speaker 1: love covers sins. Why would you reach out to Fuentas?
Speaker 1: Why would you try to say that you would like to,
Speaker 1: you know, see him flourish and do well.
Speaker 3: Why do you even do that?
Speaker 1: Why do you reach out to these people? Because hatred
Speaker 1: stirs up strife, love and peace. Try to make amends.
Speaker 1: Paul says, as much as depends on you, try to
Speaker 1: be at peace with all men. Now, obviously there's limitations.
Speaker 1: I don't reach out try to be friends with every
Speaker 1: single wicked person. That's wisdom, knowing when and where to
Speaker 1: apply it. But if you see people going in directions
Speaker 1: that you would like to help them not go into,
Speaker 1: then it may I think it makes perfect sense. Why
Speaker 1: would I do debates with Tim Gordon? Do I hate
Speaker 1: Tim Gordon? Not at all.
Speaker 3: I loved him. I liked him a lot.
Speaker 1: I consider Tim Abro, his his family, they're amazing people,
Speaker 1: They're great people. The debates, even if they get heated
Speaker 1: and intense, from my vantage point, are because I don't
Speaker 1: want to see him being.
Speaker 3: In a bad situation.
Speaker 1: When I debated Nick Flin this, I didn't hate Nick
Speaker 1: Flint this. I don't judge him on anything. I would
Speaker 1: like to see him move in the right direction. And look,
Speaker 1: it's the same method and approach that you get from
Speaker 1: me with everybody. Well, Alex Jones asked me about an
Speaker 1: Orthodox church this and that. I say, here's a good
Speaker 1: Orthodox church in Austin, Texas. Check out Father Moses' Church.
Speaker 1: A lot of people say, hel come di or didn't
Speaker 1: call out Elijah Schaeffer. Well, first of all, I almost
Speaker 1: never call out people's personal lives over here.
Speaker 3: I don't do that.
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of drama streams. I will do
Speaker 1: a blood sports debate or something like that. That's not
Speaker 1: a huge deal to me. But we don't usually do
Speaker 1: a lot of the drama stuff over here. And doesn't
Speaker 1: bother me that people do it. That's fine, that's their thing.
Speaker 1: Is not what I typically do. Wow, Elijah reached out
Speaker 1: to me after we were on the show a couple
Speaker 1: times with him. We did an interview and then I
Speaker 1: think we did a debate. We had Luigi Downe there
Speaker 1: and then we had the debate with Tim and Elijah said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm interested in Orthodoxy, Could you put me in touch
Speaker 1: with anybody, a preach or somebody, And he got Father
Speaker 1: Moses's number and they had one conversation. So what was
Speaker 1: it you thought I was supposed to do in this situation?
Speaker 3: Was I supposed to make.
Speaker 1: Exposed streams on Elijah? I don't follow Elijah's personal life.
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's up to.
Speaker 1: But in that situation, I did the exact same thing
Speaker 1: that I've done with every single other person in this sphere.
Speaker 1: If they asked me questions about Orthodoxy or if we
Speaker 1: have that conversation, I point them in that direction. And
Speaker 1: it was the same thing with Sarah Stock. Now if
Speaker 1: those people don't go.
Speaker 3: In that direction, if they choose not to pursue, that
Speaker 3: can't control that.
Speaker 1: That's not up to me. People said years ago, why
Speaker 1: did you go hey out with Wikiphase he's a.
Speaker 3: Wickan. He's not.
Speaker 1: It's just a name that he chose because he thought
Speaker 1: it was cool. And when I went and hung out
Speaker 1: with him, I got him to get an Orthodox study ball.
Speaker 1: He said, I want to talk to you about the Bible.
Speaker 1: Tell me what Bible I should get. Everybody said, oh,
Speaker 1: you're hanging out with him and doing magic rituals and Satanism.
Speaker 1: There was none of that told, just absolute nonsense. Because
Speaker 1: we thought of a funny picture next to a casket
Speaker 1: that was a B movie set. There was also an
Speaker 1: airbrush snake. Yeah, Satanists are really worshiping in an airbrushed snake.
Speaker 1: So yeah, airbrush people are doing the work at the
Speaker 1: Satanan tips.
Speaker 3: Come on, dude.
Speaker 1: The whole vibe was hanging out and joking around. We
Speaker 1: did an interview.
Speaker 3: Why would you talk to Dasha? Because I want DAWs
Speaker 3: should have become Orthodox.
Speaker 1: I think her husband is Okay, she moves in the
Speaker 1: direction of being interested in Eastern Cathol. Hey, that's a
Speaker 1: step in our direction. Maybe she'll become Orthodox. So people
Speaker 1: love to string together these conspiracies. It's like all we
Speaker 1: do is the same thing with all these people.
Speaker 3: Why were you on Crowder?
Speaker 1: You work for Crowder? Andrew helped me get an interview
Speaker 1: with Gerald and we talked about all the same stuff
Speaker 1: we always thought about, like what do you expect man
Speaker 1: when I go on the Hodge Twins and the Hodge
Speaker 1: Twins say, I think be pretty based, ain't it.
Speaker 3: No, Islam's not based.
Speaker 14: Here's what.
Speaker 1: Bees we have the same conversation I have anybody else.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good idea to intentionally try
Speaker 1: to stir up strife without some good reason. You do
Speaker 1: have to have you draw your line in the sand.
Speaker 1: You have a red line, right, you don't cross that line.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it is necessary to call people out. But I
Speaker 1: think that the general attitude is we try to keep
Speaker 1: the peace, We try to be on good terms with people,
Speaker 1: and you know, say, in the case of Nick, I've
Speaker 1: only disagreed with certain takes and positions.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: Same approach to Tim Gordon disagree with certain takes and positions.
Speaker 1: And by the way, remember the attitude of proverbs here,
Speaker 1: a true friend will tell you if he disagrees, and
Speaker 1: will help you if he thinks you're making a if
Speaker 1: you need a course correct, A yes man, a gopher,
Speaker 1: a toady isn't a true friend. There's another thing too,
Speaker 1: that I think goes on in this sphere, and there's
Speaker 1: a reason for it.
Speaker 3: Again, as we've talked.
Speaker 1: About in the media sphere, a lot of people are
Speaker 1: you know, backstabber, narcissistic types of people. Because it's media,
Speaker 1: it draws that kind of a you know, people that
Speaker 1: want attention and all that. So there is a tendency
Speaker 1: for people in media to you have to be on
Speaker 1: guard because so many people are snakes and they'll burn
Speaker 1: you and they burn bridges. So it's understandable why people
Speaker 1: would be so guarded, and that makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3: I have to be guarded too.
Speaker 1: There was somebody reaching out to me, Oh, let's do this,
Speaker 1: let's do this, and I'm like, I don't know you,
Speaker 1: so let's hold your horse's dog. I don't know you yet.
Speaker 1: So but I think that our goal not just in media,
Speaker 1: but whatever your job is, whatever you're doing in life, right,
Speaker 1: Proverbs is going to be a great instruction manual on
Speaker 1: how to handle things practically.
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying from my own experience over the years.
Speaker 3: I've been doing Proverbs.
Speaker 1: Over and over and over since I was like nineteen,
Speaker 1: and that's because it's helped me a lot throughout life.
Speaker 1: I've always found new insights, new nuggets, new wisdom, and
Speaker 1: same with the rest of the doer canonical text too, but.
Speaker 3: Especially young men.
Speaker 1: I would encourage young men to consistently get in the
Speaker 1: habit of Proverbs. Wise people store up knowledge, but the
Speaker 1: mouth of the fool is near destruction?
Speaker 3: Were you go in books?
Speaker 1: You read all them books?
Speaker 3: What did we see tates at the other day? I
Speaker 3: don't read books, torks, I need to have a fight,
Speaker 3: I need to fuck.
Speaker 4: I don't read books.
Speaker 1: God right, well, Proverbs says otherwise. Proverbs says that a
Speaker 1: wise man stores up knowledge. Hence why you see two
Speaker 1: different rooms in this house that are all books. And
Speaker 1: by the way, having a home library was something everybody
Speaker 1: had fifty sixty years ago.
Speaker 3: Did you know every home used to have a home library.
Speaker 3: And now what do men have? Do men have a study?
Speaker 1: Now they have their man cave, so they have their
Speaker 1: simulated masculinity of sportshole all the way. Shout out to
Speaker 1: all almost three thousand of y'all. We had over three
Speaker 1: thousand earlier. Shout out to all y'all who are not
Speaker 1: obsessed with sports whole props to all of the cool
Speaker 1: dudes and nine percent chicks who are not obsessing over
Speaker 1: sweaty black men running in circles.
Speaker 3: Did you see the blood dude?
Speaker 1: You run in a circle? Oh my gosh, dude, he
Speaker 1: just but he did so much running in a circle,
Speaker 1: and he did he did it again.
Speaker 6: It was like coly crop, dude. And he was freaking
Speaker 6: sweaty when he did it so much it was freaking
Speaker 6: sweat dude. The freaking black dudes are running in circles again. Honey, Honey,
Speaker 6: come in here. I'm gonna scream at the screen because
Speaker 6: the black dudes are running in the circle. He did it.
Speaker 5: I can't believe he.
Speaker 1: Ran in a circle. I grew up with people obsessed
Speaker 1: with freaking Tennessee football. If you're from Tennessee, man, my
Speaker 1: blood runs orange.
Speaker 6: My blood runs or boy.
Speaker 1: Now, we have some fans of sports who always get
Speaker 1: mad when I do this. I don't care if you
Speaker 1: like football. I'm just talking about the people that make
Speaker 1: it their religion, dude.
Speaker 3: And I grew up with my blood runs orange.
Speaker 1: Do people in Tennessee get ut orange coffins? They paint
Speaker 1: their house orange. And I'm not kidding. When I worked
Speaker 1: at the paint store for ten years, I had memorized
Speaker 1: the formula of ut orange. So I grew up with.
Speaker 15: Uh uncles and aunts. And I was about to say dads,
Speaker 15: but I only have one dad, Dad's I had.
Speaker 1: My two dads. I grew up. I grew up my
Speaker 1: two dads and they were just screaming up the TV Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Anyway, just kidding. I don't have two dads.
Speaker 1: I don't have What if What if I did have
Speaker 1: two dads and my two dads were actually Paul Reiser
Speaker 1: and that other tall bearded dude. What if Paul Riiser
Speaker 1: and that bearded dude were my real two dads? But
Speaker 1: also they were straight?
Speaker 6: Whoa dude?
Speaker 3: Because I remember in my two dads, weren't they were straight?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: It wasn't two gay dudes? Rachel, Did you want to
Speaker 1: come up? I saw a minute ago you were thumbing down.
Speaker 1: Did you want to say something? Feel free to chime
Speaker 1: in if you would like to. By the way, it's
Speaker 1: just jokes you guys, like if you want to watch football,
Speaker 1: I don't really care. I mean I will watch a
Speaker 1: h a uh I like an mm A fight every
Speaker 1: now and then. Those are fun.
Speaker 10: If I thumbed down, I did.
Speaker 6: Not mean to.
Speaker 1: That's okay, I don't you could you could disagree, And.
Speaker 10: Because I was backing you up on the I have
Speaker 10: the same canvas tards in my timeline all over the
Speaker 10: place telling me I'm.
Speaker 16: Gonna you're gonna recruit this when it turns out that
Speaker 16: Candace can prove that she was doing the astral projection,
Speaker 16: you're gonna feel stupid.
Speaker 10: And they're like telling me, They're like, you're.
Speaker 16: Just saying this because you're a fed hill and you
Speaker 16: don't know about the CIA.
Speaker 15: You don't know about it.
Speaker 10: And I'm like, bitch, I'm right about the shift years.
Speaker 1: If you're by the way, how would you prove how
Speaker 1: would substa dummies? How would you prove that Candice can't
Speaker 1: astral project I'm thinking, uh, she would have already got me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like if I woke up
Speaker 1: with sleep paralysis and I look over and I would see,
Speaker 1: you know, sweet Candy's uh, you know, ethereal body over
Speaker 1: there ready to pounce, then I would believe it.
Speaker 10: I'm just wondering how come she didn't get any vibes
Speaker 10: about Like why didn't she any premonitions or dreams to
Speaker 10: warn him not to go that day or have more
Speaker 10: security or something.
Speaker 16: I guess all of her psychic abilities.
Speaker 10: Failed on that day.
Speaker 16: But it's just like they're they're so terrifyingly wrapped into this,
Speaker 16: They're so bought in that it's there. I have Christians
Speaker 16: arguing with me, that astral projection and stuff.
Speaker 8: Is that it's actually biblically supportive.
Speaker 16: What about Paul and pauls And I'm just like, dude,
Speaker 16: you they're so crazy that you really just can't even
Speaker 16: talk to them. They're like way past.
Speaker 1: Talking to Actually, you know what the whole thing of
Speaker 1: like the people.
Speaker 16: Coming at me saying I'm a fed shill who like
Speaker 16: loves the CIA, or I don't know about the CIA, and.
Speaker 3: It's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 16: I have a bestseller which has entire chapters on CIA fuckery.
Speaker 1: What do you mean I've never what do you mean
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: Know about it?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And uh I have to give some points though,
Speaker 1: because that's actually pretty creative is of Jesus there. I'll
Speaker 1: give some points like I wouldn't have even thought about
Speaker 1: using Paul's you know, vision of the third Heavens. That's
Speaker 1: actually a pretty creative attempt at to prove texting for
Speaker 1: for astral projection. I'll have to give some points for that.
Speaker 1: That's that's creat it's not that's not what the text
Speaker 1: is about, but that's they get some points for creative
Speaker 1: is of Jesus. But yes, now I'm all lost in
Speaker 1: my thoughts I was about to go to something, I
Speaker 1: forgot what it was. Or let's go back to Proverbs
Speaker 1: skin one. So wisdom has found the lips of those understanding,
Speaker 1: but the rod is for the back of those who
Speaker 1: are devoid of understanding. I would say that if you
Speaker 1: think about generally in life, people that have understanding, they're
Speaker 1: usually able to avoid prison and prison beatings anyway, whise
Speaker 1: people store up knowledge that we did that one. A
Speaker 1: rich man's wealth is his strong city, but the destruction
Speaker 1: of the poor is their poverty. The righteous leads to life,
Speaker 1: the labor of the righteous life, the wages of the
Speaker 1: wicked is sin. Paul repeats that, of course in principle
Speaker 1: in Galatians right, he who keeps instruction in the way
Speaker 1: of life is in the way of life. But he
Speaker 1: refuses correction goes astray. So notice, oftentimes we are our
Speaker 1: own worst enemies. If we do not receive correction and instruction,
Speaker 1: we usually end up going astray, and that's because of
Speaker 1: our own hardheadedness. Whoever has hides hatred has lying lips,
Speaker 1: and whoever spreads slander is a fool. This is important
Speaker 1: one to remember because the Internet is a rage hate machine.
Speaker 1: And this week alone, for example, I saw a lot
Speaker 1: of speculation and people gossiping, and I understand that as commentators,
Speaker 1: obviously our character to a degree matters.
Speaker 3: But also.
Speaker 1: Remember when we call things out right, we'll have to
Speaker 1: give an account as well. So now I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that that makes Sarah Stock an ideal right wing commentator.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, and I'm not saying that I'm
Speaker 1: condoning Elijah or any of that. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: I've seen sex scandals in media and government and it
Speaker 1: never ends. But I don't know what to say about that.
Speaker 1: I would just simply say that a lot of people
Speaker 1: capitalize on events when they hate a person. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, and I think as Orthodox we
Speaker 1: should not do that. Again, it takes wisdom and it
Speaker 1: takes propriety to know when to call something out and
Speaker 1: when to not, and also, as Scripture says many times,
Speaker 1: to overlook a transgression. Now I'm not saying overlook Sarah
Speaker 1: Stock or Elijah, you know, being hypocritical, But also I'm
Speaker 1: saying that let's be measured in the way that we
Speaker 1: go about these things, because in the media world, nobody's measured.
Speaker 1: Everyone just rushes to judgment, rushes to the worst, and
Speaker 1: they hide their real motivations and wait until something comes
Speaker 1: out on people that they hate or they want to
Speaker 1: take them down. And I don't really think that that's
Speaker 1: the right attitude that we should have. I believe that
Speaker 1: if people are ill motivated and ill willed and they're
Speaker 1: not sincere, time will eventually make that clear. Time will tell,
Speaker 1: so you don't have to go on crusades to take
Speaker 1: people down. You know, a lot of people, for example,
Speaker 1: have spent years they try to take Rachel and Andrew down.
Speaker 1: They spent years trying to take me down. They want
Speaker 1: to take them down, they want to expose them in
Speaker 1: and it's almost always some bunch of nonsense from ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen years ago. Oh didn't ten years ago you
Speaker 1: drunk Texas somebody? Yes, ten years ago, fifteen years ago
Speaker 1: I had drunk text somebody, Yes, big deal, good job,
Speaker 1: you got me.
Speaker 4: So what.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just usually nothing burger stuff, right,
Speaker 1: And also you know, I would say, in the case
Speaker 1: of Eligen Sarah, like yeah, they're probably not morally read
Speaker 1: to be leaders in the movement. But I mean, is
Speaker 1: that the biggest issue. I mean, the Epstein stuff is
Speaker 1: the biggest news in the world. That's like expose the
Speaker 1: entire architecture of how our world is run by wicked people.
Speaker 3: I think that's way more important than this kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But everybody kind of loves the and that's kind of
Speaker 1: a sache.
Speaker 16: Okay, not to interrupt you, but I think it's pronounced
Speaker 16: the arket texture.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, but Rachel, that's a little too mockerber for
Speaker 1: my content. I don't go into the machober stuff, the
Speaker 1: dark machiber stuff.
Speaker 10: That's because you can't compart.
Speaker 8: Comprompt compremental wise, compremental properly, how to.
Speaker 10: Pronounce the word.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, maybe you'd like to explain the fact how
Speaker 1: you come from a federal operative background and come from
Speaker 1: a green Brett family. Aren't your family all members of
Speaker 1: the Green Berets.
Speaker 5: He got me, He got me.
Speaker 3: Oh there we go.
Speaker 1: See this is what happens when people see all along.
Speaker 1: I was actually a Candace mole to infiltrate Candace haters,
Speaker 1: and now I have it a successfully exposual. You heard
Speaker 1: it from Rachel's on mouth. She's from a family of
Speaker 1: Green Barrets. Now, some people say green beret. That's actually inappropriate,
Speaker 1: that's not the proper Actually, Candace was right all along.
Speaker 1: Water does freeze at or melts at What does she say?
Speaker 1: Thirty thirty four? I don't forget what she said. By
Speaker 1: the way, I'm actually projecting right now, I'm astral projecting into.
Speaker 16: Candace's water freezes at zero, and so when it's thirty
Speaker 16: something degrees out, it should just be melting like crazy.
Speaker 3: Oh is that what she thought? She didn't, She didn't
Speaker 3: realize it was thirty two. I didn't really understand what
Speaker 3: I knew she was wrong.
Speaker 1: I was like, does she not them? People were like,
Speaker 1: she meant celsius.
Speaker 6: It's like, sure, he good, buddy.
Speaker 1: Sure the multitude of in the multitude of words, sin
Speaker 1: is not lacking, but he restrains his lips is wise.
Speaker 1: So notice a lot of people rush to speak and yap,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people yap without.
Speaker 3: Communicating what they really mean.
Speaker 1: So don't rush to speak, don't rush to judge, and
Speaker 1: you don't actually gain anything by massive amounts of yapping.
Speaker 3: And even Solomon is telling this and telling us this,
Speaker 3: and propers. The tongue of the.
Speaker 1: Righteous is silver, choice silver, But the heart of the
Speaker 1: wicked is worth little. The lips of the righteous feed many,
Speaker 1: but fools die for lack of wisdom. Blessing the Lord
Speaker 1: makes one rich and he adds no sorrow to it.
Speaker 1: So notice, if God blesses you because you're doing things righteously,
Speaker 1: your your wealth, your wisdom, And that can be physical,
Speaker 1: actual monetary wealth, or it can be spiritual wealth, intellectual wealth,
Speaker 1: whatever like. It doesn't come with curses and punishments. It's
Speaker 1: a blessed thing.
Speaker 4: To do.
Speaker 1: Evil is like sport to a fool. But a man
Speaker 1: of understanding has wisdom, the fear of the wicked will
Speaker 1: come upon him, the desire the rights will be granted.
Speaker 1: When the whirlwind passes, the wicked is no more, but
Speaker 1: the righteous has an everlasting foundation.
Speaker 3: I like this too.
Speaker 1: To think about this in perspective, like, think about how
Speaker 1: many throughout the course of the world, how many wicked
Speaker 1: people there were a lot, And think of how many
Speaker 1: wicked people prospered in their life. Now fast forward two
Speaker 1: thousands of years later. Who remembers or.
Speaker 3: Knows any of those wicked people? Nobody?
Speaker 1: So what did they really get out of it? A
Speaker 1: brief bit of pleasure perhaps, and perhaps a lot of
Speaker 1: pain as well. So when we put things into perspective,
Speaker 1: the whirlwind of time comes, and the wicked are no
Speaker 1: more as vinegar to the teeth and smoke to the eyes.
Speaker 1: So is the lazy man to those who send him.
Speaker 1: Again a lot of rebukes of sloth in the proverbs.
Speaker 1: So again, think about how many things deal with work,
Speaker 1: deal with economics, and deal with your daily interactions and
Speaker 1: operating from a position of integrity. The fear of the
Speaker 1: Lord prolongs days, but the years the wicked will be shortened.
Speaker 1: The hope of the righteous will be gladness, with the
Speaker 1: expectation of the wicked is will perish the way the
Speaker 1: Lord is strength of the upright, but destruction will come
Speaker 1: upon the workers of iniquity. So just remember bide your time.
Speaker 1: If people are bad, they're mistreating you. In the end,
Speaker 1: in the long run, they will undo themselves ultimately. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about it, dog. The righteous will never be moved,
Speaker 1: but the wicked will not inhabit the earth. So this
Speaker 1: reflects into the sermon on the Mountain right. The righteous
Speaker 1: will inhabit the earth, or won' inherit the earth. The
Speaker 1: mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom but the perverse
Speaker 1: tongue will be cut out. The lips of the righteous
Speaker 1: know what it acceptible, but the mouth of wicked is
Speaker 1: what is perversed. So a lot of focus into this
Speaker 1: first chapter here ten on our words and our economic
Speaker 1: interactions and our.
Speaker 3: Work ethic. So let's take that into account the next
Speaker 3: time you are tempted to.
Speaker 1: Say, it's not my fault that I'm in this situation.
Speaker 1: Everything sucks and it's everybody else's fault in it. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: things are bad, but there's always been corrupt.
Speaker 3: People and things have been bad.
Speaker 1: So that's not an excuse for sloth, and it's not
Speaker 1: an excuse to try to circumvent righteous ways of operating.
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Speaker 1: content are opening my eyes. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't blame I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people kind of especially if you grew up in that
Speaker 1: fundamentalist type stuff as I did. You kind of have
Speaker 1: a phase where you're like, Nah, this is stupid.
Speaker 3: And then usually you kind of, you know, gradually make
Speaker 3: your way back to.
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Speaker 1: Do you experience cognitive dissonance? I'm sure everybody does, right,
Speaker 1: because ultimately we're all falling, and so we all don't
Speaker 1: want to be wrong, right.
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to be right. Nobody wants to be wrong.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that there are things that I don't
Speaker 1: know about that I haven't even noticed that I have
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Speaker 1: done better being faithful to the Orthodox tradition. Generally speaking,
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that that there's nobody righteous amongst the
Speaker 1: Greek Orthodox or anything. I'm not saying that at all
Speaker 1: just for example, you know, Rokorp had the nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: two or three statement, for example, condemning acumenism, And while
Speaker 1: there are many people in the Greek churches who are
Speaker 1: anti ecumenist, the hierarchy typically is pro acumenist.
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