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and so I think he's been listening to what we

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justification and tag and all that.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, so let's go over to Jeff Stein.

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Speaker 1: Real quick recap of the first twenty minutes, which was

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really revealing because Jeff Stein says that he was recruited

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into Trilateral by David Rockefeller, and he mentions the Kissinger family.

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created the Trial Adroar Commission under David Rockefeller as a

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steering committee specifically for Brazenski.

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Speaker 3: So let's listen to this recap of that.

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what was considered the most cutting edge group of men.

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Speaker 4: Mathematicians in the world.

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Speaker 5: What year was that, I don't remember late I think

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in the world. Correct, yes, okay, How did a guy

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over the place. How did they pick a guy like you?

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with Jeff Stain McCaffrey talking to help us pass the

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Speaker 5: On Wall Street, a simple almost like your accountant. The

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Speaker 1: Everybody from the Ron Paul sphere, right, everybody from this

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Speaker 5: Sure you understand your body system, you'd say, well, I

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the world actually works. So he's kind of an educator

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as well a consultant.

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Speaker 3: You could say.

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Speaker 1: That's why, for example, Zelenski says, I need to consult Epstein.

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I need his help in regard to what's happening in

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Ukraine versus Russia. That's why he explains for several minutes

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to Ehud Barak what Peter Thiel's company is and what

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Pallunteer does. Right.

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Speaker 3: So he's doing this.

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Speaker 1: He's even explaining to Clinton's own economic team, Larry Summers,

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how the Vatican Bank works as a superseded grit money

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laundering international operation. Right, he has to explain that to them.

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And he's having explained to Bannon, a journalist, what fraction

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reserve banking is, and how the world actually functions in

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this same way as a controlled organized crime black market system.

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That's what he's getting at. He's saying, I understood this,

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and that's.

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Speaker 4: What was my role.

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Speaker 1: Now people are saying, oh, he's actually dumb, he's not

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that smart. Now he's also a con man. So he

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has elements of trying to present himself as overcompetent in

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other domains like science or philosophy. Right, So it's gonna

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be interesting to see as philosophers when we get to

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a section talking about monads and Leibniz, does he really

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understand what he's talking about or is there a lot

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of sued you know word solid terminology going on to

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make it look like he's way more overcompetent, that he's

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some kind of savant. I think even Bannon asked him

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at one point something like that, like, you know, are

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you some sort of savant?

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Speaker 3: Like what are you?

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Speaker 5: Fast forward Steve too today where Google and these other

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engine companies, the other tech companies are trying to build

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artificial intelligence. The strangest thing that they found. One of

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utificial intelligence with a lot of people have heard about

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the brain nets because they actually look like a net.

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an answer sound normal to you because you're thinking about

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that calculator you had in nineteen seventy six on your desk.

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When you ask the person who designed the system, how

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did it come to that answer, how did you a

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neural net? Can you show me the calculations? They say, no,

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we don't know, we don't know how the thing we

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designed actually came up with that answer.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty Now to the people in the comments are saying,

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what do you mean, he's a student of crime. Now,

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there actually are people who get really really advanced information

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and studies about how to do crime. In fact, in

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the in Carwise scandal, there was a guy called the

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Sicilian who was basically a PhD in how to do

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criminal organization or criminal crime syndicate type stuff. So my suspicions,

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I'm not saying there's like a literal like villain school, right,

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I'm not talking about Marvel shit. I'm saying like, there

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really is a place for people who have a very

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high level understanding of black markets and criminal organizations. Now,

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a lot of those people work in intelligence agencies, because

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that's what intelligence agencies do is they place people in

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other countries.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the things they do. They also lie

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through the media all the time.

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Speaker 1: But one of their jobs is to place people in

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other countries to do illegal activities. So, by definition, an

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intelligence agency engaging an espionage is a criminal organization, So

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keep that in mind.

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Speaker 5: Strange they take the same neural nets now and they

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put it in front of a video game. No learning nothing,

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they say to the computer, they say, sit in front

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of your video game and learn how to play. It

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seems that computer learns better than any human in history,

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faster than in the human history, beats in a human

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in history. But when you asked design of how did

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it do it? No one knows.

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Speaker 4: It just did it.

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Speaker 5: So it's the first little touch of things that we

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already have gotten to a place where we don't understand it,

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and we build it.

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Speaker 4: On Sunday afternoon, September fourteenth, two thousand and eight, where

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were you?

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Speaker 5: Sorry?

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Speaker 4: It was the night they put Lehman Brothers in bankruptcy

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in London and I was in jail. Seriously, yes, so

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the financial crist of two thousand and eight happened when

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you were in jail. I was just going to be

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so amazing. That's gonna so amazing. I take it.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have your wallfree journal dropped off you in

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the morning, your financial Times. No, how did you hear

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about the How did you hear about? Because I wanted

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to I forgot.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is interesting just because.

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Speaker 1: When he was first brought into being on Wall Street,

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when he was at bear Stearn's, his partner Hoffman or Hoff's,

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Hoffstat or something. His partner went to jail and he

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did it for insider trading. So he was learning the

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criminals syndicates even that early on operations insider trading. And

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it's curious that he didn't get his trouble and trouble

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but his partner did about this.

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Speaker 4: But yes, I'm trying to get this gonna amazing. This

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is a let's go back and do it again.

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Speaker 3: But that was back in the eighties, by the way,

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that was a long.

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Speaker 4: Time ago, Sunday afternoon, because I want to find out

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about people. The genius is understanding the complexity of the

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financial system, because I think the best example we have

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is the financial crisis of the crash of two thousand

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and eight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, people are asking, well, what about Bannon, does Bannon? Well,

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I think what I gather from the interview is that

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and Bannon just said it right here. He's like, I

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want to know and talk to all the geniuses in

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the world. And when I read the texts, Bannon seems

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to think of Epstein as like this super savant right,

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like this this amazing genius person, and he doesn't really

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seem to catch on to any of the suitory. But

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I think again, as far as I can tell, Epstein's expertise.

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Speaker 3: Is really just criminal criminal operations.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And Bannon doesn't seem to be swift enough to pick

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up on the kind of limitations I guess of the

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other domains. He thinks he's just a sort of like

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polymath or something.

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Speaker 4: Sunday afternoon, September fourteenth, I think it was two thousand

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and eight, is when they were working feverishly in midowm, Manhattan,

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at the Lehman Brothers offices and in Vario law firms

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around town and with the Secretary Treasury and the federalsor

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what they're going to do with Leman They decided they

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were't gonna say it, and so they prepared to put

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into bankruptcy at the opening of the market in London

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the next day. How did you hear about what was

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gonna happen to Lehman Brothers And what did you immediately

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think when you heard they was gonna be put in

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to bankruptcy?

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you asked that question. I was in solitary

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confinement September fourteenth, and again some of the public stories

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about the wonderful time I had in jail and my

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work release, which didn't come from months after I'd been

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there since June. In eight x ten cell with a

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bed in the back, a six foot bed in the back,

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a chrome sink with toilet attached to it, and a

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little piece of metal sticking out that we was suposed

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to acut as a table. Now since I was in jail,

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there were no books. Why there's no library.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: Why.

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Speaker 1: By the way, we're gonna break this interview out with

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take calls. It's kind of long, so we do need

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to have some a little bit of breaking it up.

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So in a few more minutes we'll take a h

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another call.

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Speaker 5: Right, But you're in jail, No, I was in jail,

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not prison. So in jail, I was in a place

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it was called the Special Housing Unit, which is for

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the roughest, toughest, meanest people. They put me there, they says,

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my own protection. So I was in an eight x

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ten cell with a little slit in the door where

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they would serve my food on a tray about s

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nine inches by four inches. And then as soon as

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I finished eating, they've take the train and close it down.

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And one of the guards said, do you understand there's

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a cra there's a wall streets crashing. I'm I'm worried

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about my pension fund. What should I do? And I said, sorry,

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wall streets crashing? What's happened? And he said this some

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crisis and some companies are going bankrupt. I said, are

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you sure? And I said yeah, it's all over the papers.

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Everybody's tar We're all terrifed. We're gonna lose us life

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savings because we have either a four oh one k

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or a pension funds. We don't know anything about money,

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mister Efstein, can you tell us, like what's going on?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Am I gonna I? Am I gonna be able to

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afid my Chidren's education? Am I gonna be bankrupt? Like

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this company called Lehman Brothers. And there's another company in

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the front page today called bear Stearns. Oh no, I said,

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why because that's the company I was a partner in.

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And in fact, that was a company I had a

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very large investment. Then, so is a great story. I

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didn't have my Wall Street Journal, but in the early mornings,

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you're allowed to make two phone calls collect and when

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you pick up the phone, you can dial a number.

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And when the person picks up, they say, you're getting

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a call from the Palm Beach County jail. Will you

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accept reverse charges? And the person he says yes, And

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they called us through other person says no. The person

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I called was Jimmy Kane, the president of bear Stearns,

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and I said, tell me what's going on, And so

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that my knowledge of the financial crisis happened with Jimmy,

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who's at the center of the storm, telling me about

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what Leeman had gone under and they were trying to

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figure out a way should they bail out bear Stearns.

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Speaker 4: Did it strike you at the time of the mess

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you had made your life to be in a situation

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that you're one of the greatest financial minds in the

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world looked at?

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Speaker 1: So Bannon thinks he's the greatest financial mind in the world.

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So big bosses for five dollars. Hey, people who get

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locked up will tell you that Jay is actually a

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community college for criminals to study in prison as the university. Yes,

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I have heard that, and of course, you know, we

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talked to Sean Attwood, who you know, lived through that

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for many years. He was involved in a.

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Speaker 3: Massive ecstasy ring being busted in.

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Speaker 1: Arizona, and he was competing with Sammy the Bull, and

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of course Sammy will say similar things as well. I

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think though with Epstein, what you have, though is above that.

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This is above that kind of level of uh, you know,

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learning to run a local gang. You know, this is

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like internat. I mean some of those files the first

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day it was like Epstein was organized, was organizing meetings

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with literally like twenty heads of state of the world

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he was going to go meet with. I mean, this

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is this is a level above that, big boss. But

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you're absolutely right in terms of like the low, you know,

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local level criminal stuff. That's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 3: Vampire. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Federal prison is Harvard for criminals there, what's up?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I just wanted to note that when he talks

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about neural networks, we kind of do know a lot

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about how they work. Essentially, he said, he said, we

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don't know like you can say that you don't know

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what the math formula is to do a specific task.

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But a neural network itself is the math formula, and

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it just adjusts itself so that it the output corresponds

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to what you want. Like essentially, when you're putting a

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neural network to play a video game, is just adjusting

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a bunch of numbers so that it works with that

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specific video game.

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Speaker 3: We know the structure.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, Yeah, I got the impression from that

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comment that he was maybe going in the direction of

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saying that AI could become conscious because we don't really

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know what consciousness is, and because AI is answering in

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a supposed way, we don't understand maybe AIS.

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Speaker 3: I think he's kind of going that direction.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he might as well.

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Speaker 7: Because he's showing that he knows this stuff superficially. Okay,

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there's a lot of research that goes into AI, and

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he just gives the example of like the the first

476
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thing they ever used that they ever called AI, which

477
00:23:31,599 --> 00:23:33,640
is neural networks, which is like I think from the

478
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,880
seventies or the eighties, you know, like it's it's an

479
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,200
old concept, and he makes it sound slightly mystical.

480
00:23:41,319 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: Right, I think that's exactly.

481
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,279
Speaker 1: That's what he was going on, That's exactly, and he's

482
00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:47,440
going to go that way in as the discussion progresses.

483
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,200
He's going to get into these sort of new agy

484
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,599
cabalistic ideas. But I think it's important to understand too

485
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,799
that Yeah, I mean at the level of a spy,

486
00:23:59,559 --> 00:24:02,279
that's know what you get with people that are doing that,

487
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,920
they need they need to have enough knowledge of subjects

488
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,240
and many subjects to be able to network and interlink

489
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:12,200
people at a different level at all levels of society.

490
00:24:12,319 --> 00:24:15,119
So you know, a person who's a fixer or a

491
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,839
spy might need to be interacting with, you know, people

492
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,319
at an embassy, at a at a dinner. They might

493
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,240
need to be interacting with, you know, a drug cartel.

494
00:24:24,319 --> 00:24:27,079
They might need to be interacting with people who understand

495
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,559
the tech world, and so they will have a superficial

496
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,200
knowledge of a lot of areas. And I think that's

497
00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:40,200
exactly why Jeff Stain McCaffrey demonstrates that exactly what's up man, Timothy,

498
00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:40,640
what's up?

499
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 7: Hey?

500
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:43,559
Speaker 2: Jay?

501
00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:46,839
Speaker 8: I got two two statements. I have a pitch for you.

502
00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:50,160
I actually because you know how you always complain because

503
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,759
you don't ever get as much audience on your very

504
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:57,920
interesting lecturer series as you think you should. I actually

505
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,079
agree with you. I think I'm you know, when you're like,

506
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,559
there's a one hundred people say that's me.

507
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:02,759
Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying.

508
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying, if I talk about Epstein, I'll get three

509
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,599
thousand live and fifty thousand viewers total. But if I

510
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,599
talk about you know, Dostoevsky or Lord of the Flies

511
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,960
or you know some like that, we get like one

512
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:14,359
third of that.

513
00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 8: I mean, what I was going to say is it's

514
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something to consider is if you had someone else, if

515
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,359
you have anyone else that you're fusing your friends with,

516
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:25,359
or someone else who's capable of keeping up with the

517
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,359
reading material, you really should consider maybe like having it.

518
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:31,319
Speaker 1: Be like a lecture between you two. It's like a

519
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,960
podcast satting where you're he.

520
00:25:33,039 --> 00:25:34,559
Speaker 8: I doesn't think it's to any guys your podcast with,

521
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,519
but sometimes it's like you're saying the color blues in

522
00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:41,000
fact to color and you're like, yes, you know someone

523
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:42,079
who's more.

524
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Speaker 9: Kind of quit.

525
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 8: I guess that's I don't want to mean, but someone

526
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,200
that you can actually kind of bounce off of a

527
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,119
little bit would make it a lot more interesting. I

528
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,960
think most people I enjoy listening to it because I

529
00:25:54,079 --> 00:25:56,279
I think that this stuff is super interesting to me

530
00:25:57,559 --> 00:26:00,559
just because you know, we kind of in this world

531
00:26:01,079 --> 00:26:02,799
and we kind of have to deal with what is

532
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,519
actually going on.

533
00:26:03,839 --> 00:26:04,039
Speaker 3: Yeah.

534
00:26:04,559 --> 00:26:06,759
Speaker 8: Uh, I was gonna say when we spoke before the

535
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,680
opposed to Kouf about how we were all kind of

536
00:26:09,799 --> 00:26:11,519
you and I were both shocked at this time because

537
00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:13,759
we were like, Wow, I never thought a signup would

538
00:26:13,799 --> 00:26:16,640
work that effectively. I'm kind of saying that again with

539
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,519
this Epstein step.

540
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:18,839
Speaker 6: I was in the Marine Corps for.

541
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Speaker 8: Like twelve years or puts, you know, od odias and

542
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,880
all sorts of stuff at that time, you know, or

543
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,880
they getting their details and brag or anything. But we

544
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,680
all know that countries just do this kind of stuff.

545
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:34,880
And then's the thing I'm being told. I don't know,

546
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,440
but the only exception. There's plenty exception to that rule,

547
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,119
and people's kind of like completely lost the plot on

548
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,519
the whole thing where it's like, first off, I want

549
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:47,880
to say thank you for exposing the gymnasts that were

550
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,640
in fact apparently a sigh out by Jeffrey Epstein. You

551
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,680
called that one out.

552
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about the the.

553
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,759
Speaker 1: The papal acrobats, the gay acrobats years ago.

554
00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:02,519
Speaker 10: What am I looking at?

555
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: So you pointed that out years ago?

556
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,279
Speaker 8: But I guess what I'm kind of confused about now

557
00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:12,880
is people get real caught up on like does this

558
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,680
person know Like, well, everyone's going to.

559
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,759
Speaker 3: Know the guy, right, This is not.

560
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,279
Speaker 1: Does this person what sait? Again?

561
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:25,279
Speaker 8: Oh Epstein? Everyone knows Epstein. Everyone in power is going

562
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:28,240
to know this guy. That's not the question, you know

563
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,160
what I mean? Of course people know him, and you know,

564
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,480
if George Lucas knows him, does that mean Jeffrey Epstein

565
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,519
creates Star Wars?

566
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: No, of course that's ridiculous.

567
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 11: Instead of focusing on what his.

568
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,799
Speaker 8: Actual operations were, these are things you have talked about

569
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:48,000
for years. Again that I don't owe you to quality,

570
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:50,240
but a lot of people do. You're talking about this

571
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,799
stuff for years, you know, And I was always sitting

572
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:55,400
there going, yeah, I've heard about people doing this stuff

573
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,000
for years. The marine for is kind of a weird

574
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,640
place because it's like the only, only terrible and honest

575
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,880
branch of the military. I always joke, you know, you

576
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,519
ever read the book The War's a Racket as Smedley Butler,

577
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Melly Butler.

578
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 10: It's ignurine right, twenty two years story of.

579
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,319
Speaker 8: Like some military dude writing a book that's anti establishments.

580
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,640
Always almost always a marine Marines are real, honest, we're not.

581
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:22,640
We don't lie about this if we're not over here.

582
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: Like, no, which ones too, the real dude?

583
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,079
Speaker 8: We know we like to stack bodies, do I'm sorry,

584
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:32,440
But what I'm getting at though, is, you know you

585
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,839
have these situations where these have been consistent issues for

586
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,960
a very long time. I think you spoke to the

587
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,119
rocket fillers getting involved or is it the rose Childs.

588
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:44,519
Can't remember which one in the people Bank of the

589
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:45,960
eighteen hundreds.

590
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:49,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, eighteen thirty two, first loan? Yeah, and I think

591
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:51,440
you know, look.

592
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:53,799
Speaker 8: Guy game book, which is a weird thing. Someone should

593
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:55,319
have told me that because every guy I knew in

594
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,759
the Marine Corps read books to get in, you know,

595
00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:01,039
to many of the jobs. It would be expected that.

596
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:01,839
Speaker 6: You read a book like.

597
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:05,359
Speaker 8: Something stupid like Starship Couper was an expected reading material.

598
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 12: No, I know.

599
00:29:05,839 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: I meant at West Point they use Robert Heinlein's novels.

600
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,559
Speaker 3: That's part of your course.

601
00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, you have to read stuff like I'm sorry to

602
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,599
be the very bad news. I wrote a white paper

603
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,880
in twenty ten for the record about a positive I

604
00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:27,640
We're sorry about your war in twenty ten, and I

605
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,079
was right of what happened in the restaurant in Ukraine.

606
00:29:31,799 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: So what I'm kind of curious is what you think

607
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:34,200
on this is.

608
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,839
Speaker 8: Like they released this information, people literally are obsessed with

609
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:43,160
the dumbest stuff on it, scimitars and George Bush Senior

610
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:46,720
and dumb things like that. What should we do and

611
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:50,359
what should we focus on exposing to people and remembering

612
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,799
so it doesn't get memory hold?

613
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:52,319
Speaker 7: What do you think?

614
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,799
Speaker 3: I think, good question. The most important aspect are.

615
00:30:02,359 --> 00:30:10,599
Speaker 1: The international structure of this organized crime syndicate, how it works,

616
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:14,799
how it is like Specter in James Bond. I mean,

617
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,960
you know, it's not accidental that I was saying yet

618
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:19,920
and yesterday or the day before stream.

619
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,039
Speaker 3: That Epstein is basically Blowfield.

620
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: Because Ian Fleming when he was writing those novels. Because

621
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720
I did my grad work on this, I didn't end

622
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:30,920
up finishing my grad thesis, but I did publish it

623
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,839
in a peer review, by the way, so I can

624
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960
actually say it's a lot of these scientists and dorks

625
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,079
that I'm actually published in peer review. Now it is

626
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:41,920
economics and sociology. But I guarantee you that's more of

627
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:47,200
a credible thing than anybody else can say in this domain.

628
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:51,279
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, the dorks. I mean, there might be some

629
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,640
dorks that are published.

630
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: But let me see if I can, just as a joke,

631
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:57,440
let me see if I can find my peer review,

632
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:02,559
and you guys can see that it really is.

633
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,799
Speaker 3: It's the many layers of double seven.

634
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:12,039
Speaker 1: I think is one of those. Ooh, look at that

635
00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:23,000
peer review. So anybody who wants to diss me, you're

636
00:31:23,039 --> 00:31:28,000
actually dissing a peer reviewed source in academica. Excuse me,

637
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,440
I'm a peer reviewed source. And what do you do

638
00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:33,279
if I'm a peer reviewed source and I tell you

639
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:36,720
that peer review is bullshit? Because now you have an

640
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,440
authority telling you that authority is a bullshit what do

641
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:44,480
you do now? So anyway, so as you can see, no,

642
00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:48,759
I did not finish this thesis. I did all the

643
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,799
way up to my graduate thesis and this was the

644
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,319
thesis and I was like, I forget it. I just

645
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,759
ended up publishing. It did go into peer review, So

646
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,200
there you go.

647
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:57,519
Speaker 4: There.

648
00:31:57,799 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Now you have authorities telling you not to listen to

649
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,720
the author. And as you can see, yes, it is

650
00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:08,319
a semiotic analysis of Ian Fleming's novels and they're used

651
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:12,920
during the Cold War for propaganda. So pick fiction and

652
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,480
propaganda in the Cold War. By the way, I don't

653
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,440
even know if I've read this final version. I don't

654
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:25,599
even remember what's in this final Pedia version here. I

655
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,640
don't even have access to my own. Somebody might have

656
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,279
sent me this back at the time, I don't remember.

657
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:34,440
But this was published in like twenty March of twenty seventeen.

658
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:39,319
So but nobody reads peer review stuff anyway. Nobody reads

659
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,960
this academic shit. So I was like, well, I might

660
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,960
as well just write books on the subject, because then

661
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,839
people actually read it and I'll actually make a living.

662
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:50,519
Nobody cares what academics say. But the reason I'm talking

663
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:55,079
about this is because the more I saw the methodology

664
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,400
that Ian Fleming was using in his stuff, I noticed that, okay,

665
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,960
he's pulling from one of the real operations he was

666
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,680
involved in, right Like there was Operation GoldenEye, I think,

667
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:12,519
where he was spying on Fascist and Franco Spain. This

668
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,799
Operation Mints Meat, which they made that movie about recently,

669
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,720
which is real where they've sort of put out the

670
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:21,759
fake body with the fake plans in it, which would

671
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,720
get the Germans chasing a false lead. That movie was

672
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,359
pretty good. I'm trying to remember who's in that was

673
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,880
it like, was it Beneedette Cumberbatch? I can't remember who's

674
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,200
in Operation mince Meat. Let's see anyway, that's true, and

675
00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:42,759
that's based on Ben McIntyre's writings. He's one of the

676
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,319
well known writers on the subject of bondology. Yes, actually

677
00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:49,559
bondology is its own discipline in academia. It's a sub

678
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:50,920
submische which is pretty interesting.

679
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 3: But Operation ments Meat is real.

680
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,599
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm talking about this is that the

681
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,039
more that Okay, it's calling Firth, it's a Netflix movie.

682
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:04,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you've never seen an Operation mince Me, it's

683
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:05,000
pretty good.

684
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,519
Speaker 1: But you realize that because Ian Fleming was naval intelligence

685
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,320
and he was eventually pretty high up at British Intelligence

686
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,159
m I six, he was able to organize and strategize

687
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,320
a lot of even things like the US.

688
00:34:26,079 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 3: Secret Service superstructure.

689
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:31,599
Speaker 1: So it's actually Ian Fleming that helped establish the OSS

690
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,639
together with Bill donnovan and others. So that's why he matters,

691
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,519
and a lot of people don't realize he matters that much.

692
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:42,719
But it also shows Hollywood, right, it shows how Hollywood

693
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:47,679
is an engine of propaganda, revelation of the method, whatever

694
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,199
terms you want to use like it's all there in

695
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,400
the Ian Fleming stuff.

696
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 3: And that's why I.

697
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: Focused on it because I was a skeptic as well

698
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,920
when I heard that, wait a minute, there's connection between

699
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,320
the CIA and Hollywood. I remember hearing this when I

700
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,199
was like nineteen twenty twenty one, and I didn't really

701
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,199
know what to make of it. Thought it sounds a

702
00:35:03,199 --> 00:35:05,840
little outlandish, and then the more you dive in, you diget, oh,

703
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,480
that's actually a CIA and Masad. Obviously there's a lot

704
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:12,920
of obviously a huge presence of Massad in Hollywood, but

705
00:35:13,039 --> 00:35:15,679
CIA as well and British intelligence too. So we need

706
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,480
to understand it's like it's all the above, right, it's

707
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:20,320
not because a lot of times those entities, through the

708
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,440
special relationship the liais on and work together five eyes,

709
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:29,960
et cetera. So so I Fleming is huge to this,

710
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,719
and he's a great insight into how the world really

711
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,360
works through fiction because he's basically saying I met with

712
00:35:38,559 --> 00:35:43,320
people like Jeff Sain mceffrey. He's like I would meet

713
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:48,519
with people that were like Specter, like Blowfeld. Now, obviously

714
00:35:48,639 --> 00:35:51,360
in the in the stories and in the movies, they

715
00:35:51,519 --> 00:35:54,000
kind of hype up Blowfeld like he's like this super

716
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:57,960
mastermind and he's running everything right. And we know that

717
00:35:58,039 --> 00:36:00,360
in this case of Jeff Sin mceffrey, he's not running them,

718
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,679
because there's several situations where or emails where it appears

719
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:06,000
that he's being told what to do and being given orders,

720
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:11,039
including sometimes perhaps threats or sometimes perhaps you know, you

721
00:36:11,199 --> 00:36:13,519
may kill this person. So all right, let's get back

722
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:15,760
to Jeff Sah McCaffrey and see what he's got to say.

723
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 3: We'll take some more calls, and we'll do some more super.

724
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,199
Speaker 4: Chats by world leaders. And as there you know, you're

725
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,559
thinking by the most prominent important people in the world.

726
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,039
And here you are in solitary confinement. You came and

727
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,599
you came in. You got to make a collect call

728
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,159
to somebody.

729
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 6: Did it?

730
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: Did it strike you at the time, how how all

731
00:36:32,519 --> 00:36:34,960
the thread your life had come together and and put

732
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,199
you in a position or you would put yourself in

733
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,800
that position. No, So it never struck you when you

734
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,320
had to make a collect, your one collect, one of

735
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,119
your two fifty percent of your collect calls that day,

736
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,519
you call the president of the head of the CEO

737
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:49,360
of bear Stems. The biggest financial event in your life

738
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,719
is taking place, of which one every important person in

739
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,400
the world would be seeking your opinion. Number two would

740
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,119
be a once in a lifetime opportunity to apply your craft.

741
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:00,880
Number three would be one like time opportunity to make

742
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,039
money if you were smart, and obviously you're smart. You're

743
00:37:03,079 --> 00:37:06,400
telling me here truthfully that it never hit you at

744
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,519
all of how you'd ended up in a place where

745
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:10,920
you had to make a collect phone call from a

746
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:13,440
jail sale that was six y nine. Okay, come on,

747
00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:15,760
your food being passed into a slot.

748
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 5: The question you want to ask is who was the

749
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:18,360
other call to?

750
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,079
Speaker 4: Who was the other call to?

751
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 5: The other call is to my friend, the JP Morgan,

752
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:23,960
who was then I didn't know at the time, trying

753
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,280
to buy bear Stearns. So at one point I had

754
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,280
two phones. Who was difficult because they're afraid people are

755
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,360
going to hang themselves with the phone cord, so they

756
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,960
don't actually come together, and they pretty short, So I

757
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:33,800
was actually going between two phones talking to bast Stearns

758
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:34,840
and JP Morgan at the same time.

759
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: So I found it amusing, and it never struck you, Well,

760
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:44,199
that's interesting that he references hanging themselves in jail, and

761
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,000
you can't have phone cords. Given the fact that, as

762
00:37:48,079 --> 00:37:52,159
we saw with the Sammy the Bull interview, Sammy said

763
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,079
I was in that same super mix. It's all bullshit.

764
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:56,800
There's no way.

765
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Don't let you have nothing that you can't hang yourself.

766
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 4: It's not possible about how to end up in a

767
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,519
situation like this.

768
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: No, that would be probably means I would be too

769
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:03,440
self aware.

770
00:38:04,639 --> 00:38:06,039
Speaker 4: You can't possibly expect me to believe this.

771
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:07,599
Speaker 5: I know I don't believe it.

772
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: It's even you're telling me that during that day you

773
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,000
never had a moment you sat there and go, what

774
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:14,480
the fuck have I done with my life? I'm in

775
00:38:14,519 --> 00:38:16,559
a six x nine jail cell when I should be

776
00:38:16,599 --> 00:38:17,719
on a train desk, or I should be in my

777
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:20,079
two hundred and fifty million dollars. Uh. You know, the

778
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:22,599
greatest townhouse in New York City taking calls from the

779
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,880
King of Saudi Arabia, the President of China, the head

780
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,280
of Russia, the President of United States to save the

781
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,679
world's population from a financial debacle. You're honestly expect me

782
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,760
to believe that you that never happened.

783
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,679
Speaker 5: You suggest like he.

784
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:34,639
Speaker 3: Would save the world.

785
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: Dude in the email s he's the one talking to

786
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,239
Arena to Rothschild saying, we're going to profit from the

787
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,960
collapse of the Ukraine.

788
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: We're going to go into Somalia, profit from the chaos.

789
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,039
Speaker 5: There, give me a break, steing And I was swimming

790
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:50,920
somewhat depressed and how could this happen to me?

791
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm not saying depressed. I'm saying a moment of awareness

792
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,199
of how could I get myself into this situation?

793
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 5: No, I would just say how strange that this happens.

794
00:38:56,519 --> 00:39:00,400
Just it's strange. I'm wearing a jumpsuit and fliplip flops.

795
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:00,800
What color was it?

796
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:01,159
Speaker 4: Jumps at?

797
00:39:01,159 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: Brown?

798
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 5: Brown?

799
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 4: Brown jumps it? Yes, I knows. I don't see you

800
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,239
in a lot of brown. No, brown jumpsuit and flip flops.

801
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 5: Flip flops?

802
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 4: Yes, with no access to books, no access to newspapers,

803
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
no access suit anything, you had lived on information.

804
00:39:11,639 --> 00:39:13,599
Speaker 5: Except my how'men joy bars? Extra, I'm enjoy bars?

805
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: Did you eat almon joy bars and things like that?

806
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,239
Because you're afraid of what the cooks into your food? Yes?

807
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,360
Is that because of that you're in for the crimes

808
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:21,840
that you're in for.

809
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,119
Speaker 1: No, he only ate almond joy bars because he was afraid.

810
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:28,559
Speaker 3: He was gonna get poisoned.

811
00:39:30,519 --> 00:39:33,119
Speaker 1: I mean, they could theoretically poison an almond joy bar too,

812
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:34,360
But I mean, okay, whatever.

813
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 4: It was just in fact, it was because you're wealthy. Yes,

814
00:39:37,199 --> 00:39:37,719
How did you know that?

815
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: Well?

816
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 5: People would constantly if I was passing buyer, you'd have

817
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:43,039
to go from my medical people would either have to

818
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:44,559
borrow money or make some of the types of comments.

819
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,199
Speaker 4: But in the beginning, what were the comments. At the beginning,

820
00:39:47,199 --> 00:39:47,800
what were the comments?

821
00:39:48,039 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 5: It serves you fucking rich guys right that you're hear

822
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:50,880
next to me.

823
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,599
Speaker 4: There was nothing about your crimes. No, So all this

824
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,480
rumor you hear all the time about people in prison

825
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:58,320
that commit the type of crimes you commit, that's you're

826
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,840
saying in your personal things.

827
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 6: Not true.

828
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,679
Speaker 4: It was all because you were rich, yes, And it's

829
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:03,880
all because they wanted to bar money.

830
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: We'll get advice now, we should say so people that

831
00:40:08,159 --> 00:40:11,400
are not aware, I'm pretty sure this Bannon interview is

832
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,000
from twenty seventeen or eighteen, so this is an older interview.

833
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,960
This is not new, and people are saying, why is

834
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,119
it out now? I think this was in the Epstein files,

835
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,360
so I remember hearing this is like a several segments

836
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,519
of two hours. It's something like six or eight hours

837
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:33,400
of the total interview. But this is, for whatever reason,

838
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,960
two hours of the interview within the Epstein files. So

839
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:40,480
this was probably catalog you know, at some point in

840
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,519
regard to the trials and to see what he would

841
00:40:42,519 --> 00:40:48,280
admit or say in these interviews. I don't think this

842
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,679
is being oh, this is being released because it's all

843
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:51,440
a conspiracy.

844
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: And I mean maybe.

845
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: A lot of people are theorizing why, but no, this

846
00:40:57,519 --> 00:40:59,360
is not new. People are saying this is a new

847
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,360
interview still alive. No, this is an old interview. It's

848
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,920
well known that Bannon had done this, and for whatever reason,

849
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,519
it was never released.

850
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 3: It's not AI.

851
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,639
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to say it too, is

852
00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:20,440
I'm trying to go fast because i know it's gonna

853
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,519
take forever. So I've got it on one point five.

854
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:24,559
That's why it's it's sped up a little bit.

855
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: Yes, wait, they get inviced with which to go long

856
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,199
to you're telling me just to buy telling me in

857
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:29,960
solid tary confinement.

858
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:31,639
Speaker 3: Oh the other thing, I remember what it was.

859
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:35,119
Speaker 1: The other thing was remember too that I think a

860
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,840
lot of what Jeffrey's saying is true and verifiable. For example,

861
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,079
he was a councilor form of a CFR trilateral member,

862
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,360
so that's not fake. A lot of these things you

863
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,000
can go easily verify, but sometimes you can tell, yeah,

864
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:50,679
he is lying.

865
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: For example, at one point in an.

866
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:55,079
Speaker 1: Interview he will say that there's no connection between race

867
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,880
and IQ. Well that's totally contrary to what he says

868
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,280
in his private d MS and chat. So remember this

869
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,079
is the public face Jeffrey Epstein and what he wants

870
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,880
people to see. And I think there was even an

871
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,360
exchange between him and Bannon one of the dms or

872
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,679
i ams. He was saying something like, yeah, we need

873
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,920
to rebrand you as a philanthropist.

874
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 4: I think he said something like that interesting going along,

875
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,360
Yeah that say abou human nature?

876
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 5: Well, what I think if people find one of the

877
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:28,079
reasons they wanted to keep me in solitary confinement, was

878
00:42:28,119 --> 00:42:29,599
there afraid that everybody would want to know which stocks

879
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:33,199
to buy. But what happened was after this crisis, now

880
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:34,239
it's on the front page of every.

881
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, The only reason that they put him in

882
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,679
solitary confinement isn't because people had suspicions that he was

883
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,039
part of an international global elite blow Feld, Specter bond

884
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:47,519
villain level scheme. It's because people want an insider information.

885
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:50,079
Speaker 4: Sure, I don't want to lose this thing. Sorry, when

886
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:54,119
you first heard that, did you was it Bearstrands had

887
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:55,960
been kick in the bankruptcy? What's six months before? No?

888
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:57,519
Speaker 5: No, it's the same time. This is part of the

889
00:42:57,559 --> 00:42:57,920
same deal.

890
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 4: I thought, no, no, bearstars they said the stars they

891
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,760
sow they saved bear Stearns and didn't save Liman Villasi

892
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,440
right the next months before they had bailed out bear Stearns,

893
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,400
but bear Stearns were still a zombie. What Shelovitz wilm

894
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,079
was a form of self But they'd quoe unquote saved it.

895
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:10,800
They why did they make the decision? In your mind,

896
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,840
why did Hank, Paulson and BERNANKI this what's this concept

897
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,400
of moral hazard? Explain the ardusment moral hazard is? And

898
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,400
why why did they save bear Stearns six months before?

899
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:20,360
And why did the smartest guys in the room decide

900
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,239
not to save Lynam Brothers.

901
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 5: It's a good question. The real issue is is I'd

902
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,400
have to go back when you have these systems to

903
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,239
the way your doctor responds to any type of emergency.

904
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,880
In your body, if they might decide to save your kidneys,

905
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,559
to let your gallbladder go because the gall blood is

906
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:37,719
less important to your overall system. It's people if at

907
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,159
that time, even this it's not that long ago. The

908
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:44,719
boogieman was when said, well, what really happened, Jeffrey, what

909
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,280
really happened?

910
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: Why?

911
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,639
Speaker 5: What is this financial crisis? And you know, some of

912
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:49,800
the progressives and the right wing blame it on the banks.

913
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,880
It was the bank's fault, and it's the fault of

914
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,760
this very esoteric, unknown concept of derivatives. It was related

915
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,199
the derivatives that caused this financial crisis because the derive's

916
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:00,440
got some.

917
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,079
Speaker 1: And that's true, because they were betting with other people's money.

918
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:08,079
Exactly what happened in Operation Gladio when the Banco Dembrosio

919
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:11,880
fell apart and the Vatican Bank was bankrupted, is because

920
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,119
these criminals were taking the pension funds and betting at

921
00:44:16,199 --> 00:44:18,519
really high leverage. So that's what he's referring to, and

922
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,400
that is partially correct. Now, nobody was saying it's just

923
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,440
the existence of derivatives. It's the criminals using other people's

924
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,760
money and then getting bailed out.

925
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:28,519
Speaker 3: That's the crime here.

926
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,079
Speaker 1: And as Big Boss says, for five dollars, you know

927
00:44:32,159 --> 00:44:34,960
this world has fallen when the criminals are classiest. You

928
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:39,320
move bricks, I move regimes. We are not the same exactly.

929
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:45,000
So again he's kind of giving more interesting insider sort

930
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:50,679
of information here that well, yeah, technically it's not derivatives themselves.

931
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,480
It's the criminals using these financial instruments at very high

932
00:44:56,559 --> 00:44:59,440
leverage to bet and then when they go bankrupt they

933
00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:05,119
can uh use the the compromise politicians to bail them

934
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,440
out with the public's money and taxes and all that.

935
00:45:07,639 --> 00:45:12,239
So absolutely that's what's going on. And again it's it's

936
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,440
the same model that you see if you study the

937
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,079
Brazilian car wash scandal, if you study the FTX collapse,

938
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,599
if you study Banco Dembrosio and the Vatican bank collapse

939
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:27,639
and bankrupting, same model, and they just repeat the same

940
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,719
sort of criminal.

941
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,599
Speaker 3: Techniques over and over.

942
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: Oh out of control and like the in the Mickey

943
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,760
Mouse and that was the way you started your financial

944
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,639
your financial your road to a bonnaire went right through drivenives.

945
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,679
Speaker 5: Yes, but it's but drivens were not the cause. The

946
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,920
drivens were not the cause at all. It's like saying

947
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,199
you had hair was the cause of your heart at

948
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:49,639
deck because it was on top of you. There isn't

949
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:53,119
let me say there's no one specific cause. These a

950
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:55,719
system collapses. So when many times when they have to

951
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,920
make you a death certificate, when you said.

952
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not one cause, it's an entire criminal organization

953
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,719
and criminal syndicate operation that collapses.

954
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, technically I guess that's true.

955
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 5: Right, What did he die from? They'll say hot failure?

956
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:09,039
But if you say, what was the cause of his

957
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:11,199
heart failure? Well, he had the blood pressure, he shub

958
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,760
but was hot, he was diabetic, he had all these

959
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,320
other problems. But he said, no, no, no, we need

960
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:16,480
a word on your death certificate. Did you die from

961
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,639
brain damage? Did he die from hot failure? That's the

962
00:46:18,679 --> 00:46:20,920
financial crisis, many said. People said, well what caused it?

963
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,840
They wrote, like on its death certificate derivatives.

964
00:46:23,039 --> 00:46:26,119
Speaker 1: Now, remember there's exchanges between him and Bannon in the

965
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:28,320
emails where he says he has to explain to Bannon

966
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:31,039
inflation and the failed.

967
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,199
Speaker 3: To reserve are weapons. That's what's really going on.

968
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:35,599
Speaker 6: Now.

969
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:39,199
Speaker 1: Remember this is the public interview, right, so this is

970
00:46:39,199 --> 00:46:42,920
Epstein's public face, full of admissions. But Also there's the

971
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,199
private communication what Epstein really thinks, and that's why that's

972
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:50,679
way more interesting than this all this this is very relevant.

973
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 5: Interesting, But derivers were not a fundamental Rivers are not

974
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,119
a fundamental cause of anything on.

975
00:46:55,159 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 4: The So the was it Sunday or Monday? I take

976
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,159
it was Monday morning when you made you two collect

977
00:46:58,199 --> 00:46:59,679
calls and you're talking to bear Serns one hand and

978
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,400
more same with the other. JP Morgan, did you that

979
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:07,800
was Monday morning? Did you? Jeffrey being one of.

980
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,159
Speaker 1: The fun I remember according to Two World Wars and

981
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:16,119
Tiny Mustache Man, my publisher's new book, the whole chapter

982
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,920
on the BIS is about JP Morgan and JP Morgan

983
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,239
as a Rothschild front.

984
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: So keep that in mind. The history of JP Morgan

985
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,639
and what was that, guys?

986
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:32,559
Speaker 1: I forget the first JP Morgan operative was something like Treadmont.

987
00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:33,199
Speaker 3: Tread Well or whatever.

988
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: But eventually JP Morgan became very powerful in the US

989
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,519
as a kind of front. This piece for the Rothchild

990
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:41,239
banking click of Europe.

991
00:47:41,079 --> 00:47:44,159
Speaker 4: Central genius in the world. Did you understand what Lehman

992
00:47:44,159 --> 00:47:46,440
Brothers is going to bankruptcy the domino effect that by

993
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,559
Thursday the financial system would be under such extremis that

994
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:50,760
if it didn't have a tree and dollar cash in

995
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,760
fusion in the United States, it might collapse. Did you

996
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,840
know that at the time? Did you view that at

997
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,360
the time? Yes, you did?

998
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:56,559
Speaker 7: Ye.

999
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,679
Speaker 5: Why again, I don't want to bore you or the

1000
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,840
audio with the idea of it's a medical procedure, but

1001
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,840
you had system failures, so you'd recognize that if I

1002
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,039
said to you, did you realised when your father was

1003
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:07,280
on the ground and he was clutching his chest and

1004
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,119
he couldn't This.

1005
00:48:08,199 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: Is the same bullshit that we heard at nine to eleven, right, Oh,

1006
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,719
what happened? Well, it was a system failures. There was

1007
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,719
systemic failures, intelligence failures. Yeah, And just like with that event,

1008
00:48:19,039 --> 00:48:26,000
we got massive bailouts of the intelligence surveillance superstructure being

1009
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:29,280
erected and set up and funded through the intelligence failures.

1010
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,159
Speaker 3: So if you read a lot of the.

1011
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,199
Speaker 1: Espionage literature, what you'll find out is that they're very

1012
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:38,360
candid and usually admitting that the biggest successes in intelligence

1013
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,239
agency's histories is there great failures, because it allows them

1014
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,719
to say, oh, well, so if we just had enough funding,

1015
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:47,719
we would have been protected against these systemic failures breath.

1016
00:48:48,639 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 5: It was a bad situation. He could die.

1017
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,199
Speaker 4: That's how I did you know? Did you immediate think

1018
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:56,079
about the commercial paper marketing, the mechanical triggers that actually

1019
00:48:56,079 --> 00:48:57,679
had to you had to blow through the circuit boards.

1020
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,840
Did you know the circuits? Did you understand the circuits

1021
00:49:00,159 --> 00:49:01,199
or do you have a concept of the circus that

1022
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:01,960
ever in your blown through?

1023
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:04,079
Speaker 5: Yes, but only because of an analogy to a body,

1024
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:06,840
and in fact from my my telephones against the wall

1025
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,760
with my little metal wires. Because the next day I

1026
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,840
took to another person in Washington about the issues of

1027
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,239
what I thought was happening, and I made the same

1028
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:12,960
discussion about the.

1029
00:49:13,079 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 4: They were at the Treasury Department. Yes, so in a

1030
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:18,239
in a six x nine cell, in six phones aroundsie

1031
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:18,480
of the cell.

1032
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:21,519
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, I've seen saying, Look, it's not the fault

1033
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:22,199
of derivatives.

1034
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 3: America just had a heart attack. I'm sorry, hey, listen, you.

1035
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,039
Speaker 1: Know, maybe you you know, maybe America has a little

1036
00:49:29,079 --> 00:49:32,280
bit of a heart attack. You know, Sorry, that has

1037
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,880
to happen that way, But that's maybe what has to happen.

1038
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,840
You know, it's a system failure.

1039
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,639
Speaker 4: In County in a pond Beach County, Californias before West

1040
00:49:39,639 --> 00:49:40,119
pondbe Florida.

1041
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 5: That's what you do, just diet West Pomba's.

1042
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 4: Florida, West Pompeas, Florida, West Ponds, Florida. You're making a

1043
00:49:45,559 --> 00:49:47,559
call to Washington, d C. To talk to some deputy

1044
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,519
deputy's sex summer treasure, someone somewhere in treasure. And that

1045
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:54,079
does not the night before before you go to bed,

1046
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,800
it doesn't dawn on you at all. You never have

1047
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,039
a moment of self reflection that how did I end

1048
00:49:58,119 --> 00:49:59,599
up on this metal cot when I should be at

1049
00:49:59,599 --> 00:49:59,960
the center of thing.

1050
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 5: No, I had a telephone, so I've said I can

1051
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,880
talk to It makes no difference where I am. In fact,

1052
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,280
I'm still talking to the same person if I was

1053
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,119
at my home in pom Beach.

1054
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: So like a true Blowfield gangster or like something out

1055
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,559
of Goodfellas, or like he's he's running ship from the jail.

1056
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,880
He's like making calls and still doing his criminal Blowfield

1057
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:26,440
organization operations out of the damn community phone conference area

1058
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,000
at the prison. That's pretty crazy. All right, let's take

1059
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,639
a couple of calls. We're progressing pretty good through the interview.

1060
00:50:31,679 --> 00:50:32,480
We're almost halfway.

1061
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,159
Speaker 3: Riika. Raika's right, now, what's up?

1062
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,159
Speaker 4: What's up?

1063
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,159
Speaker 3: Yep, what's up?

1064
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 4: What's going on?

1065
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 13: J Yeah, all right, cool. I'm gonna just a quick

1066
00:50:55,039 --> 00:50:58,360
question and you could drop me. So back when we

1067
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,679
infiltrated it is, you know, dot Maduro or whatever. I

1068
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,159
was on Instagram and I saw this black comedian. He

1069
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,079
was like it was all a distraction from the jeff

1070
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,760
Stemon g Effrey files. And I just got me thinking,

1071
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,039
like all my life, I've been hearing it's a distraction.

1072
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 4: It's a distraction.

1073
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:16,679
Speaker 12: I kind of put this filter up to just think

1074
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,920
everybody that's saying that is like, goofy, because.

1075
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:20,639
Speaker 3: You just hear it all the time.

1076
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:21,679
Speaker 5: So I'm just.

1077
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 12: Wondering, like from your reading of like Global ELITEX and

1078
00:51:25,519 --> 00:51:27,800
things like that, like do you know of like some

1079
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:31,440
true signs of distractions and like real times this has

1080
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,079
actually happened when they distract us something that we could

1081
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:34,400
point to.

1082
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, great question. I think. Uh, there's that movie with.

1083
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:45,559
Speaker 1: I never remember the name of this movie, but it's

1084
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,559
Jessica Chastain and she worked for a PR company and

1085
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:51,079
her job is basically to.

1086
00:51:53,519 --> 00:51:56,519
Speaker 3: Be a fixer, so she basically manages.

1087
00:51:56,199 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: PR crises, right, So when you have a crisis, a

1088
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,280
big politician, a banker, whoever, like, they can reach out

1089
00:52:04,159 --> 00:52:06,960
for PR people to manage the crisis, and one of

1090
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,880
the things they do is flood it with like fake

1091
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,960
stories and fake news.

1092
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,599
Speaker 3: So I would say, if you look at.

1093
00:52:11,559 --> 00:52:16,039
Speaker 1: Like what happened after pizzazz Gate, that was had some

1094
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:17,800
truth to it, and then they flooded it with all

1095
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,639
this kind of crazy, ridiculous stuff to get people to

1096
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,239
not pay attention to pizzazz Gate. Karl Rove I think,

1097
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:29,239
mentions an example where he did this In one of

1098
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,320
the early campaigns he brags about. He says he broke

1099
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,199
into the Democrat place and stole some of the letterhead

1100
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,360
from a rival political campaign I remember who it was.

1101
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,920
And then he says he forged something about that politician

1102
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,519
and then put it out and that damaged that politician.

1103
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:58,119
So Carl Rove has a famous example of this, I think,

1104
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:01,880
you know cognitive infiltrate. That is in the cast Sunsteen paper,

1105
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,360
he talks about doing this with fake conspiracies. So fake

1106
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,199
conspiracies are good examples, but when it comes to like

1107
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,000
mainstream stuff, it's hard to know when for sure something

1108
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,840
is a quote distraction, But I think you're right to

1109
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,239
say that.

1110
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,679
Speaker 3: A lot of people repeat this.

1111
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: Kind of stuff because they think it sounds smart, right,

1112
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:22,360
so people just endlessly say the same stupid schill.

1113
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: This is a distraction from this thing. Maybe, Okay, do

1114
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,199
you know that? Are you just saying that?

1115
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:28,599
Speaker 6: Right?

1116
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:33,039
Speaker 1: And yes, this is a shit lib movie, of course,

1117
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,280
but there is an insight into this movie, or in

1118
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,360
this movie, into how they manage crises. And by the way,

1119
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,199
you're right, Wag the Dog is another movie that has

1120
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:43,920
the same theme.

1121
00:53:44,039 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1122
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:46,559
Speaker 1: I put that in my first book, by the way,

1123
00:53:46,639 --> 00:53:48,039
or second book, forget which one.

1124
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: What's it called?

1125
00:53:51,679 --> 00:54:01,199
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not any of these, Is it Miss Sloan?

1126
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:11,039
Or is that that Poker movie? Because didn't I remember

1127
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:12,760
what this movie is. I never remember the name of

1128
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,679
this movie, even though bring it up like all the time,

1129
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:18,599
because it's it's one movie about I don't. I mean,

1130
00:54:18,639 --> 00:54:20,760
there's only two movies I know about this topic. There's

1131
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,320
Wag the Dog and then there's this public relations political thriller,

1132
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,280
which is weird because I think in the film somebody

1133
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,440
gets assassinated. And I want to say, this is before

1134
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:36,440
the seth Rich thing.

1135
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 6: No, it's not.

1136
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: Somebody helped me think of this movie. It's there only

1137
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,079
movie about public relations.

1138
00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:57,599
Speaker 3: It's not Dreams, not any of these.

1139
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of Jessica Chastain, it's as she pops up, by

1140
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,800
the way, and a lot of these, you know, sort

1141
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,079
of CIA ish political thrillers, particularly films that the CIA

1142
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:14,360
actually consulted on, like Zero Dark thirty. So I wouldn't

1143
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,159
be surprised if she isn't one of the Miss Sloane

1144
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:24,519
that's it, thank you? Yeah, so Miss Sloan, Yeah, twenty

1145
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:25,519
sixteen film.

1146
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: That's it. And again it's from this democrat shit lip perspective.

1147
00:55:33,039 --> 00:55:35,199
Speaker 1: Obviously, anything from Hollywood is going to be that, but

1148
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,079
it is insightful into how they manage and steer crises.

1149
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,800
So this would be a good film for that.

1150
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,599
Speaker 3: But Nick, what's up?

1151
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: Man?

1152
00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: Hello, Hey, what's up? What's on your mind?

1153
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 11: I just wanted to ask like sort of a political

1154
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:02,920
kind of question, but more philosophical. Okay, So, if like

1155
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:07,320
the political what is of Like if the political spectrum

1156
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,559
is kind of defined by like, you know, the far

1157
00:56:09,679 --> 00:56:13,000
left being communism, the modern the moderate left being liberalism,

1158
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,119
and then the sort of right with like fascism on

1159
00:56:16,199 --> 00:56:20,119
the far right and conservatism on the modern right or

1160
00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:22,480
the moderate right, and we kind of like, from an

1161
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:27,159
Orthodox perspective, you kind of reject that whole spectrum onto

1162
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,599
logically because it's like, you know, I was reading Father

1163
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,519
Sarah from Rose book Nihilism, and you're talking about how

1164
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:37,599
it's like all fundamentally like kind of vain or vapid.

1165
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:41,840
But anyway, so how should what does the political spectrum

1166
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,840
look like from like an Orthodox theology point of view

1167
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,920
or is there just like one like belief that Orthodox

1168
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:51,840
believer should have.

1169
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: Like politically, I mean, I defend Orthodox Christian monarchy that's

1170
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:03,239
the traditional church's perspective and view, and support Orthodox Imperium's antheum.

1171
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,599
That's the structure and the model. In fact, we have

1172
00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:07,679
a super chat right now about that. Jamails is for

1173
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,280
thirty dollars. Months ago you recommend it to me to

1174
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,320
read Reflections of a Russian Statesman. It's a tremendous read.

1175
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,440
Now it's on my reading list, thank you, Jay. So

1176
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,719
that's a good one to check out because it's you know,

1177
00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:21,880
it's a pre modern perspective on the relationship.

1178
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,199
Speaker 3: To church and state.

1179
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,719
Speaker 1: So that's what I would say is the normative traditional perspective. However,

1180
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we aren't in any kind of situation where it's actually

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realistic to think that there will be any near future

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and Orthodox Christian monarch. So I think, you know, with

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that being the case, pragmatically speaking, you try to do,

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00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,679
I guess the best you can at a local level

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00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:46,119
to implement you know, as many Christian principles as you

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00:57:46,199 --> 00:57:50,000
could if you are interested in being involved in politics.

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But you know that's that depends on your interest in

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00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,079
your calling, not a race called politics, not a rays

1189
00:57:57,119 --> 00:58:00,159
interested in politics. So people are saying Edge of this

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00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,679
is a great political thrill. Yeah, it's it's a conspiracy classic.

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00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,760
In fact, I've got it included here in our Mel

1192
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,880
Gibson podcast. We did, we did Brave Heart, Apocalypto, conspiracy theory,

1193
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,679
Edge of Darkness of course. Uh shout out to based

1194
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,480
trad Mel. Mel's an awesome honorable dude. Mel went to

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00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:22,360
Athos and was taking tons and tons of pictures with

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00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,559
Ortho uh serbs, Orthomnastics, Greek Orthodox. He was all over

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00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:38,280
Athos and yeah, so pray for the tradcats you know,

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to come in our move in our direction. As you know, unfortunately,

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roam will get worse and worse.

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Speaker 3: So boo boo, what's up? Boo boo a bo what's

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00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,039
you doing? Got a a mute.

1202
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: Jay?

1203
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 3: Should have been a movie critic. I was a movie critic. Yeah,

1204
00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,280
what's up?

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00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,639
Speaker 14: I just had a question kind of pertaining to the

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Epstein files.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I.

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Speaker 14: Use TikTok, which I don't think you approve of.

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00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 3: But I mean I'm on TikTok.

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00:59:15,159 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I think you are. Yeah, I

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00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:20,519
just think it like mind bombs people to become retards.

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Speaker 13: But go ahead, Yeah, I agree.

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00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:28,039
Speaker 14: But so I've been seeing like Candice Owen's TikTok. So

1214
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:31,880
I also saw a TikTok about Erica Kirk, kind of

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00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,679
like a conspiracy theory that she may have been trafficking

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00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,920
children for Epstein.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if you saw that, and I just

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kind of wanted your opinion on it.

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Speaker 3: I have not seen that. I don't know.

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00:59:46,519 --> 00:59:49,679
Speaker 1: Anything about that. I mean, again, if evidence pops up

1221
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,800
of that, people should talk about it and cover it.

1222
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,079
But so much stuff that's going around now is just bullshit. Right,

1223
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:58,800
People are just like spreading, and TikTok is the worst

1224
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:04,880
for just absolutely mind numbing, insane, dumb stuff to go viral.

1225
01:00:06,239 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 3: So I do think there's a lot of questions with TPUSA.

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For example, that.

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Speaker 1: Morgan Aerial Chick was trying to act like, oh, all

1228
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,400
the Candae questioners just got owned because Erica Kirk said

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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:31,280
that Charlie really did think that traffic lights would shut.

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Speaker 3: Off when he walked by them.

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01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 1: How is that an own of anything that actually makes

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01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:42,079
you more retarded? Because first of all, the whole idea

1233
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,400
that being around a traffic light or a street light

1234
01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:48,800
itself shutting off is in some way some sort of

1235
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:53,400
mystical indicator of anything is retarded, first and foremost. Secondly,

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01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,480
nobody was saying that Charlie Kirk necessarily didn't say that.

1237
01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:00,000
They were just saying that it's a retarded thing to eat,

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01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,199
even try to argue for anything, it proves nothing. And

1239
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:07,719
then they shift it into when Candace finds a clip

1240
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,679
or some proof of something more retarded.

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01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 3: They think that's an own against Candace. Critics.

1242
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:20,159
Speaker 1: No, it actually makes you look dumber, you idiot. And

1243
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,599
what do we see Candace saying this week? More retarded stuff?

1244
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,840
This is like, it's beyond quadrupling down. It's what we're

1245
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:37,440
sex tupling down. Because now it's not just mystical street

1246
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:40,519
lamp powers because of his vibes, because he was in

1247
01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:42,559
the Gate program, I was in the Gay program.

1248
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 3: It's not it's not Professor X, it's not X men.

1249
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: Now they do study people and children, that's part of

1250
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,679
MK ultra, but there's no evidence that they were trying

1251
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,800
to metaphysically take out Charlie because they saw in the

1252
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,719
future timelines that he would save the world. It's just insanity, dude,

1253
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,559
totally retarded insanity. And this is literally what she says,

1254
01:02:09,639 --> 01:02:12,079
like every day now, every day her show is the

1255
01:02:12,119 --> 01:02:15,480
next level of X Files silliness.

1256
01:02:17,039 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 3: Listen.

1257
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,119
Speaker 9: That's why that sentence caught my attention. In the article,

1258
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:23,519
you spoke about the street lamps that would go off

1259
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:26,199
when he would run about the special school but he

1260
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,800
had to go to. You spoke about a lot of

1261
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,880
the things that were strange in our childhood, the testing

1262
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,159
that both of us had to endure.

1263
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,039
Speaker 1: We spoke about the.

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01:02:33,039 --> 01:02:35,239
Speaker 9: Fact that we could both astral project.

1265
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 6: You know all of this.

1266
01:02:36,119 --> 01:02:39,159
Speaker 1: Of course you have a so her and Charlie are

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01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:44,599
mystical interdimensional twin flames that astral project and speak to

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01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:47,119
each other. Because remember Charlie spoke to her out of purgatory.

1269
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:49,960
Her priest told her, and that's how she knows intuitively

1270
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,400
what's going on. So like people want to believe this

1271
01:02:55,079 --> 01:02:59,559
over what's actually in the Epstein files, the actual documented

1272
01:02:59,719 --> 01:03:05,559
prove things, the real like bombshell stuff. People would rather

1273
01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:11,039
be talking about this retarded stuff. Of course, no surprise.

1274
01:03:11,159 --> 01:03:15,480
But when somebody said you should have been a movie critic, Yeah,

1275
01:03:15,519 --> 01:03:17,920
we did a whole full production TV show right here

1276
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,480
being a movie critic. You can check it out right there.

1277
01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:31,679
That was twenty eighteen sixteen. So a lot of what's

1278
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:35,559
going on in this the Candice sphere, for example, it's

1279
01:03:35,719 --> 01:03:39,760
very closely. It's very similar to what you see with

1280
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:45,000
the thought about bitcoin, right like when we saw Benny

1281
01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:49,519
Johnson interviewing Mike Ben's and they said, oh, bitcoin is fake,

1282
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:54,000
and they played the clip of Dan Payna clipped, not

1283
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:56,760
the full clip, half the clip where.

1284
01:03:56,639 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: Dan Payne says, the idiot boomer if.

1285
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: You know who that bitcoin? Who created a you would

1286
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,400
tell you a bitcoin? It's called a zero, And they're

1287
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,800
thinking that the clip is about Epstein. The full clip

1288
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:15,880
has them saying it's putin literal boomer tard retardation. They

1289
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,320
didn't even play the full clip. The supposed journalist Benny

1290
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:19,760
Johnson didn't didn't even take the time to.

1291
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 3: Look up the full clip.

1292
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: And if you think Putin created bitcoin, please go away

1293
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,519
from the stream. Don't even be on my stream. A

1294
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:32,679
lot of people say, I wish Putin hadn't created a bitcoin.

1295
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,800
So wait a minute, I thought it was the NSA

1296
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,719
and the CIA that created bitcoin. What they did it

1297
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:48,320
together with Putin? Wait till Candae says that next. Okay,

1298
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:49,800
let's get back to Jeffson again for here.

1299
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,599
Speaker 4: But I'm here with j oh No.

1300
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1301
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,559
Speaker 1: I did want to mention were you cover up for TPUSC?

1302
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,760
Were you cover up? Dude? I've already done multiple streams

1303
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,639
for you years about CIA evangelical black ops churches, that

1304
01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:07,679
they're fake and gay. For years we did streams on that.

1305
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:08,440
Ten years ago.

1306
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,719
Speaker 6: Why you defended tip USDA, Well, what you call it?

1307
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,079
Michael Lokeno in Paul Volee, You.

1308
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:17,679
Speaker 1: Mean ten years ago when Michael mckino cided in my

1309
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,480
book Mine Warsiowar ten years ago?

1310
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:27,679
Speaker 6: Well, where are you gonna talk about tip USDA's bush out?

1311
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:29,039
Speaker 4: But you can also make a thousand phone calls. Here,

1312
01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:30,320
you gotta make one and he's got a killing.

1313
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: How much better that was.

1314
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:32,519
Speaker 5: I had to decide who is the right person to call.

1315
01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:33,960
That was unusual for me because I would have called

1316
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,400
twenty people.

1317
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: And what was this? What was the advice you gave me?

1318
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 5: I said, we have you have a sick patient, and

1319
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:39,519
it's very much like a sick patient in the emergency room.

1320
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:41,719
Don't you can't think about it like your car. People

1321
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,639
in normal walks of life think about money.

1322
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:48,239
Speaker 1: And dude, nobody has talked about intelligence agencies and churches

1323
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:49,320
more than me.

1324
01:05:51,199 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 3: I've been doing that for over ten years.

1325
01:05:53,039 --> 01:05:58,519
Speaker 1: Actually type in CIA and religion or CIA in churches.

1326
01:05:59,199 --> 01:05:59,639
Speaker 4: What do you know?

1327
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: Seven eight years ago, thirty thousand views, how the CIA

1328
01:06:04,039 --> 01:06:11,519
subverts churches and religions. Ten months ago we did a

1329
01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:16,559
three hour almost stream on CIA, KGB, NGOs, think tanks

1330
01:06:16,599 --> 01:06:22,239
and Christianity. Five years ago, Church spies, CIAKGB, churches and geopolitics,

1331
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:24,719
Intelligence agencies in the church.

1332
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:25,559
Speaker 2: Right here.

1333
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:29,559
Speaker 1: Shout out to Rachel Wilson, by the way, because she

1334
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:32,000
also has been doing many Mani podcasts on the exact

1335
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:41,719
same topic. Now, there was a recent stream specifically on

1336
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,800
evangelical black ops churches and we were commenting on.

1337
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:50,719
Speaker 3: Candice and all that stuff.

1338
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,119
Speaker 1: Uh So let me find you that one because that

1339
01:06:55,199 --> 01:07:02,559
one is probably most relevant for this Candice Owans and

1340
01:07:02,639 --> 01:07:08,400
evangelical black ops business church right here three almost three

1341
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,320
months ago, there's a whole three hour stream on it.

1342
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,199
Speaker 3: Will you talk about two PUSA?

1343
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,239
Speaker 6: Will you talk about evangelical black ops troops?

1344
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,199
Speaker 1: Will don't you talk about the thing that you're the

1345
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,119
dude that talked.

1346
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:20,519
Speaker 3: About the boat.

1347
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm the dude on this topic. Nobody has covered this

1348
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,199
topic more than me in the last decade. And to

1349
01:07:31,239 --> 01:07:32,760
have absolute retards come here.

1350
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:36,159
Speaker 6: And say he won't cover the evangelical black ops CIA

1351
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,239
churches coast who's the fee works for two pusas he's

1352
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:40,840
a love.

1353
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,159
Speaker 5: RK Kirk, he goes to crush our Kirk.

1354
01:07:46,079 --> 01:07:47,079
Speaker 3: He's paid shill.

1355
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh way, if you go out to my channel and

1356
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,599
you type in charismatic, that's another one, dude. Some of

1357
01:07:58,679 --> 01:08:01,639
those six hour streams have like sixty thousand views, So like,

1358
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,719
what are you talking about? And I call out the

1359
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:16,880
charismatic churches as money laundering fraud scam institutions. And it's

1360
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:18,800
weird because it doesn't matter how many times you call

1361
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,279
it out, and it doesn't matter matter how.

1362
01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 3: Many clips channels clip it.

1363
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 1: You won't call this out because you're you're part of it.

1364
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:39,279
Five years ago, Business Church calling out megachurches sixty five

1365
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:46,079
thousand views on a four hour live stream. I'm sorry

1366
01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:48,880
that TikTok ruined your attention span that you can't go

1367
01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:51,600
actually listen to a full podcast. That's not my fault.

1368
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:56,039
That's your fault for spending all your time bombing your.

1369
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: Mind on TikTok. That's your fault. It's not mine.

1370
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,359
Speaker 1: By the way, Rachel literally just went on Cleeve last

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01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:15,119
week talking about the subject. Shout out to Cleve. Let's

1372
01:09:15,119 --> 01:09:21,239
see if that's still up. So we come over here,

1373
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:25,960
let's see if it's under maybe it's under live streams.

1374
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:26,399
Speaker 3: Let's see.

1375
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,159
Speaker 1: Oh look at this right here, how the CIA and

1376
01:09:33,239 --> 01:09:36,720
Big Foundations subverted Christianity right there?

1377
01:09:39,199 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 3: And I think Cleve and I did a stream on

1378
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:41,800
that too.

1379
01:09:46,039 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 7: Is it this one?

1380
01:09:54,079 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: So here is Rachel discussing it with Cleve. I want

1381
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,680
to say, Rachel and I did.

1382
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 3: A podcast on this too. I can't remember. There's there's

1383
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,159
every day there's podcasts.

1384
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:10,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think we just cleve and I discussed

1385
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,600
it here in this one too, so check that out.

1386
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:22,840
Given props to other people. Anyway, We're never going to

1387
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,560
finish Jeffs time.

1388
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: But that's okay. What's up, brave heart, braveheart, you went

1389
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:34,079
on you.

1390
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,399
Speaker 1: I called about ten days ago, so.

1391
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,159
Speaker 10: Hoping tonight I might actually get an answer.

1392
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 8: My question is kind of on the subject that you're

1393
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,359
talking about.

1394
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: Oh, you were you got mad because we made the

1395
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:51,479
wine mom joke?

1396
01:10:52,359 --> 01:10:55,359
Speaker 3: Sorry, can you hear me? Yeah, you got mad because

1397
01:10:55,359 --> 01:10:58,239
we made a wine mom joke. It's just joke, Okay.

1398
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,199
Speaker 14: I I didn't hear the word, and I don't drink

1399
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,199
the line that you talked about, So, yeah, you.

1400
01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 8: Had a fun.

1401
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:08,079
Speaker 3: It's just a joke. Can you not take a joke?

1402
01:11:08,119 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 15: It's fine, that's fine.

1403
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 5: But what I'm trying to say is I really do.

1404
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 10: I do respect you, Jay, Okay, And the reason I

1405
01:11:17,079 --> 01:11:20,880
am asking you the question is because of your background

1406
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,079
and your knowledge.

1407
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:23,199
Speaker 1: Okay, and I respect that.

1408
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 3: Wait, I need to ask it because you didn't answer it.

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01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 15: You jumped right into this whole Candice thing.

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Speaker 1: I literally just answered your question in the last five minutes,

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the last five of course, it does what do you mean.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't bring her up?

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Speaker 15: I had nothing to do with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't follow her.

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Speaker 14: Okay, listen, I asked.

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Speaker 1: You a simple what I thought was a simple question.

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You said, why aren't you covering Erica? To answer, you said,

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why aren't you covered? I did, gosh, no, look at it?

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Speaker 5: Can I just get the question out?

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Speaker 3: You said, why don't you cover Erica and TPUSA? And

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I said, I didn't say that, Yes, I didn't.

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Speaker 10: I asked you, what does your discernment tell you?

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Speaker 6: What did it tell you before?

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Speaker 3: Come on, that's what you meant by saying that.

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Speaker 10: Erica kneel next to his coffin long before anybody came

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up with any theories.

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Speaker 3: I knew my four year old grandsons.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good. When did I defend Erica Kirk back then?

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Speaker 7: And I get it. You're the expert on all this, You've.

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Speaker 6: Done it for years, five years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, you're okay, fine, you win. You exposed

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me and make some exposed clips. You're still mad, Emerald?

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Speaker 3: What's up? What's up?

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Speaker 10: Huh?

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01:12:49,079 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 16: Hey, I had a question with all the Epstein stuff,

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so I know obviously, like you know, they hate children.

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Speaker 3: I was learning it from what you've seen.

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Speaker 16: Is there any like are they the ones that have

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kind of caused and pushed like the whole abortion agenda.

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Speaker 1: Or do you think that they just mainly have benefited

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from it. Well, you have a lot of people in

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this sphere of the Zio who openly say a bobo

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abortions are a sacrament.

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Speaker 3: They're part of our religion.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I think they see it as part of

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warfare to abort the children of people who are their

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perceived enemies. They see it as useful for experimentation. We

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01:13:40,399 --> 01:13:43,640
saw Peter Nigard and those interviews that we played says

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I will pay you black chicks for your fetal cells.

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Speaker 3: So it's experience.

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: It's all the above and probably worse stuff. So Maxwell,

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what's up?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: You hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So one second before you say to the Maxwell, I

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actually forgot. I just saw the tab.

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Speaker 1: We need to get back into some Proverbs, right, So

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we're going to start doing one chapter of Proverbs on

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a livestream because people don't have wisdom, so hopefully we

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can gain a little wisdom and practical insight through maybe

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just a little bit of Proverbs. Every time we do

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a live stream, because we're not short of knowledge. Okay,

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this society is overly inundated with data. What we actually

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need is wisdom to apply the data and the information.

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So the between knowledge and wisdom, wisdom is the application

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of knowledge in the right way, at the right time,

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in the right place.

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Speaker 3: So what's up, Maxwell, Hey, I just wanted to ask.

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Speaker 2: How how do I explain to someone that's not Orthodox

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or doesn't even want to come to it, how we

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are not fair season we are not as legalistic as

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they are.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I would get them to define and.

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Speaker 1: Get them to tell you what they think a pharisee

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is and what it means, because a lot of times,

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especially if it's like a Protestant or Evangelical, like, they're

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gonna explain a lot of things about a pharisee that

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01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,359
could apply to any group, any denomination. Any Baptist pastor

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01:15:27,239 --> 01:15:30,479
could potentially be a pharisee. So just get them to

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be really precise and then say, well, let's look at

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the things that characterize the pharisees in scripture. Right, it's

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not tradition, it's tradition in the place of the Word

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of God. It's not having robes it's being obsessed with

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the external appearances and praying on the street corners.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's those externals and focusing on the.

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Speaker 1: Externals that characterize the Pharisee and the hypocrisy and all that,

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and those characteristics can conceivably be anywhere, so it wouldn't

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be unique to Orthodoxy. And if those are the things

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that are problematic, then why does Jesus say that the

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Pharisees sit in the seat of Moses and they have

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the authority, but do as they say.

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Speaker 3: Not as they do?

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01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,119
Speaker 1: Right, So, even using Pharisees can be an under can

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undercut the Protestant argumentation.

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Speaker 2: I just asked that specifically because today of being asked

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why is that? I was just telling someone that are

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in our church today or next Sunday, we're going to

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have a clowning for people that or a couple that

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has been orthodox orthook about ten years or five, but

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they've been made for thirty five years.

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Speaker 9: Well, the husband is going to become a deacon.

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Speaker 2: They wanted an official, a church officiated wedding.

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Speaker 1: Sure, and asked why do they need that? They're made

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as God? I said, if you can just say that's.

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Speaker 4: Madidens as of God.

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Speaker 10: Without doing that, you can say anything anything is right.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, I think agains.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, this has to do with the Orthodox view

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of the sacraments, that we don't typically recognize sacraments outside

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the Orthodox Church. And even if there is a recognition

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of the ritual being done, and then the decision by

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the bishop to not redo the ritual, that doesn't necessarily

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mean that we're saying that they had all the sacramental graces.

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That also doesn't mean that we're saying that protests don't

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have any grace. It's just simply saying that we don't

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know and we're not recognizing what's going on out there

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01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:28,960
that's outside of our domain of judgment. Remember, Paul says

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to the church, I think at Corinth he says, he says,

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01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:35,840
do not judge those that are without, you make judgments

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about those that are within. And so it's because of

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the unique nature of the ecclesiology Orthodox Church that it's

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a fixed, unique soule sacramental institution that undergirds those ideas. Now,

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in the case of that person, not everybody necessarily has

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to redo the ceremony, but it's a very very beautiful ceremony.

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So for example, in our church in Florida, we've had

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multiple couples that have wanted to do that because they

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wanted the full you know, ritual and service. It's the

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same with baptism. It's like, can the grace of God

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make up for a Protestant baptism if you weren't quote

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baptized in the Orthodox Church. Yeah, the grace of God

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can make up for it. But a lot of people want,

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for example, the exorcism prayers, and most churches, you know,

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Rounmancollolic Church, like you don't get the extorcism prayers, and

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they want that as part of their interests into the church.

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So yeah, I just I think with a person that

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is just sort of out of hand thinking everything is Phariseeism,

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it's going to be pretty difficult, you know, to explain

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a lot of the history and the nuance to that

1541
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,880
kind of really low tier Protestant objection. But you know,

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in time maybe they can start to get it. But

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bon Jovi fifty dollars. This may be a reach. But

1544
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,079
do you think that the way that the files are

1545
01:18:58,079 --> 01:19:00,960
put out that this pushes us closer to some form

1546
01:19:01,039 --> 01:19:03,920
of AI governance? Oh that's an interesting theory. I haven't

1547
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anybody propose that yet. I think that eventually they want

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to go to you know, AI governance, but maybe if

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they get enough people sort of dumbed down in the

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01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,960
rec you know, Reddit TikTok spear to think that AI

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will be an impartial, righteous judge, which is really stupid

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because it's only going to be as impartial as the

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people who program it, which is why we see, for example,

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AI even now can either be based or woke depending

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upon how it's programmed.

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Speaker 3: So could be that's an interesting theory. Uh, you know,

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you do have no Javol Harari.

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Speaker 1: Saying stuff like well, when the AI is advanced enough,

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you know, we won't need human politicians and judges, and

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we won't be you know, subject to the typical human

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01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,039
passions and corruptions, and oh want it be better when

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AI is running all the governments and all that.

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Speaker 3: So they're definitely pushing that angle.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that had anything to do with

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motivating the disclosure.

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Speaker 3: So Mario five dollars.

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Speaker 1: Not to distract from the stream, but I would love

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01:20:16,199 --> 01:20:19,720
your take on the post millennial theory. You've done research.

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It's one thing that makes everything makes sense. After you've

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01:20:25,239 --> 01:20:29,199
done research. I mean, I've been into post millennialism since

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01:20:29,239 --> 01:20:31,159
two thousand and four. Dude, what are you talking about

1572
01:20:31,159 --> 01:20:34,159
after do some research. I've read all the post millennial writers.

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01:20:34,199 --> 01:20:36,399
I have all their books on that shelf, so I

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tend to favor the post mail view. So I don't know,

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01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,119
like I'm not trying to be a douchebags. I don't

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01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:44,279
have to do research on it.

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Speaker 3: But thank you for this, Phoenix.

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01:20:49,239 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: Phoenix e er fifty dollars blessed feast of Saint Theodore

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01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,079
the Commander in Great Martyr to those of us on

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01:20:55,319 --> 01:20:57,359
the new calendar. Thank you, Phoenix, appreciate that that's a

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generous superchet. You guys are being very interest tonight Imperial

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Analysts and Imperial Analysis twenty dollurs. Great work, Jay, I

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:08,479
love your content. I've been watching for four years. Do

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01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,640
more gaming streams, yes, I do intend to. I was

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01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,800
gonna do more Alan Wake, but the problem is that

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I got in this habit of where after the live

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stream I would go play Alan Wake. And now I'm

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almost done with Alan Wake, I've almost beat it. So

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I kind of shot myself in the foot because when

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I started the game, I didn't really know what I

1591
01:21:27,399 --> 01:21:31,079
was doing, and now I'm almost done with it. But

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01:21:31,399 --> 01:21:35,279
here's the good news. We will definitely do the new

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01:21:35,319 --> 01:21:38,199
Resident Evil. I can guarantee you one hund percent. I

1594
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:42,439
will livestream that I played and beat every Resident Evil ever.

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Speaker 3: I love Resident Evil.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I might just redo Resident Evil for you guys,

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01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,600
because I've beaten that through like five times, so that

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01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,640
one I know, I won't embarrass myself on a lot

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01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:55,880
of people said, do arc creaders, I may do that.

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I also got way further in cyberpunk too, so we

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01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,640
will definitely do more gaming seres promise. They're a lot

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01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,079
of fun. I'm Orthodox. I have Orthodox friends who are

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01:22:09,119 --> 01:22:12,199
pushing the Augustinian Original Sin damnation of infants view.

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01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,399
Speaker 3: It's retarded. It is a retarded. In fact, we had a.

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Speaker 1: Comment today from Nikolai Korea. Shout out to Nikolai, and

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01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,039
he quoted Father Stephen de Young, and Father Stephen Young said,

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I don't know any Orthodox bishops, nor have I ever

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,279
heard of one, Nor is my bishop a believer in

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01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:32,760
inherited guilt? Again, why would we get our theology from

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01:22:33,199 --> 01:22:36,359
seventeen year old furries on Twitter? And I am not joking.

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One of the main proponents of this nonsense is a

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literal seventeen year old furry. I don't think that's wise

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01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,880
to go to for theology. Demi Urge three dollars, excellent work, Yeah,

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Koobian soldier. Well, speaking of demi urge and gnosticism. Next

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01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,760
Monday on the Crucible, I will be debating Monday night

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Gnostic informant.

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Speaker 3: Who who turns out is not Gnostic.

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Speaker 1: I know, it was really ridiculous of me to assume

1619
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:09,520
that Gnostic informant was a Gnostic budd He's not, and

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01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:16,159
we will be debating his monism even though he's an Aristatilian,

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01:23:17,399 --> 01:23:21,680
which Aristota was a dualist, a diadist. But he's an

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01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,960
Aristotilian monist, so that'll be fun. Monday Night on the Crucible,

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,760
Vain says for three dollars, I will be baptized in

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01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,560
the Orthodox Church this month. They shout out to Vain,

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01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:39,159
longtime super chatter, longtime audience bro. Welcome, God reaches people

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01:23:39,199 --> 01:23:39,960
through your work. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: That actually keeps me.

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01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: Fueled up. I feel like I'm doing the right thing

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01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:52,600
when you guys remind you, though, Dragos one dollar, Dragos

1630
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,680
one dollar, Jay, what about placebo effect. What do you

1631
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,319
think about rehabilitating an injury through that is or a

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hired I honestly don't know.

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Speaker 3: Anything about placebo studies.

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01:24:05,359 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: I've been meditating, breathing and thinking of nothing, no enlightenment,

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non enlightenment for a mental reason. I can stay more

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conscious throughout the day as opposed to scrolling TikTok?

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Speaker 3: Is it a neutral thing?

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01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: Explained? Well, I appreciate your comment, but I don't exactly

1639
01:24:22,079 --> 01:24:22,600
know what you mean.

1640
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,039
Speaker 3: Dregs.

1641
01:24:25,279 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 1: I gave you two dollars worth of donations about breathing.

1642
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:30,359
Speaker 3: Are they too cheap?

1643
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: I just don't know what it means. Welcome to all

1644
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,920
the new members. We got about ten or so new

1645
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,920
members dre us five bucks. Robert Maxwell's publishing company was

1646
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:52,239
pergham On. They published Changing Images of Man. Yes, we

1647
01:24:52,399 --> 01:24:54,760
mentioned that when we did our Changing Images of Man lectures,

1648
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:57,279
which was I think the last global elite text that

1649
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we did.

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Speaker 3: And we are presently still working through the Old Boys,

1651
01:25:05,399 --> 01:25:07,159
and I have not forgotten.

1652
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:09,119
Speaker 1: I know people are waiting for the part two because

1653
01:25:09,159 --> 01:25:13,800
it's been several weeks, but we got so inundated with

1654
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,119
jeff Say McAffrey information that I've not gotten back yet

1655
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:20,039
to old boys, although I am ready to do the

1656
01:25:20,119 --> 01:25:32,720
part two about the Palma five dollars. In this world

1657
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,159
of day so much data, how do we digest information

1658
01:25:35,359 --> 01:25:37,239
and make it stick? How do we gain wisdom and

1659
01:25:37,239 --> 01:25:41,640
intelligence and apply it? Great question that is definitely a

1660
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:47,920
challenge in the never ending infinity data world that we're in. Well,

1661
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:52,279
let's go ahead and kick off our wisdom section.

1662
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,239
Speaker 3: This will be our wisdom.

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01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: Segment. We're going to actually see if we can gain

1664
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,199
some wisdom them. Of course, Proverbs was for those who

1665
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:05,520
don't know a catechism. It was intended to be a

1666
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:09,960
catechism for young men during the Old Testament period. And

1667
01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:12,319
of course this said the Church for authers often recommend

1668
01:26:12,399 --> 01:26:17,600
the wisdom text and catechism are Proverbs and other putercononical

1669
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,840
texts for catechisis, So it's pretty much the same for

1670
01:26:22,079 --> 01:26:24,960
us as well. So let's read one chapter and see

1671
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:28,239
if we can gain wisdom. We'll make this a segment

1672
01:26:28,319 --> 01:26:32,159
in every one of our streams. Proverbs eleven, we're gonna

1673
01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:36,199
skip past the chapters on I guess I should begin

1674
01:26:36,319 --> 01:26:39,720
with ten the wisdom chapters. So we're going to start

1675
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:45,000
with ten because the all the way up to nine

1676
01:26:45,039 --> 01:26:48,600
are the wisdom texts? Are rusa ten dollars and he's

1677
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:55,199
got a hanka condelabra. Are you a Russian spot? Yes, absolutely,

1678
01:26:55,279 --> 01:26:58,520
Russian spot. Never been to Russia, been invited to Russia,

1679
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,880
haven't gone. But because I'm an Orthodox Christian, I must

1680
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:07,800
be a Russian spy. And what's funny is that people

1681
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,319
don't even realize that most of the people that are

1682
01:27:11,279 --> 01:27:15,319
expatriots who make up ro corps in Europe and in America,

1683
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,880
we're actually fleeing Bolsheviks and the NKVD and were aided

1684
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,159
by the CIA and British intelligence to come to the West,

1685
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:25,560
the White Russians, for example.

1686
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 3: But today's people are so dumbed down, no nuanced.

1687
01:27:29,359 --> 01:27:39,399
Speaker 1: They assume Russian Orthodox churches must be KGB, even though

1688
01:27:39,399 --> 01:27:43,279
the KGB persecuted ro Cort in Russian church. This is

1689
01:27:43,319 --> 01:27:48,560
what people think. Love the tradcats think this. It's completely stupid. Proverbs,

1690
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,239
a wise son makes a glad father, but a foolish

1691
01:27:51,279 --> 01:27:55,720
son is a grief to his mother. So honoring our

1692
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,319
father and mother is very important in Proverbs. In the

1693
01:27:59,319 --> 01:28:01,880
beginning of categy. Here now at the beginning of Proverbs,

1694
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:03,359
we learn that the fear of the Lord is the

1695
01:28:03,359 --> 01:28:05,720
beginning of wisdom. And that's relevant, I think for the atheists,

1696
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:10,720
because all of the atheists number one flaw isn't really

1697
01:28:12,079 --> 01:28:18,720
their lack of information or IQ. It's actually a moral problem.

1698
01:28:19,039 --> 01:28:21,159
That's the problem with the fool has said in his

1699
01:28:21,239 --> 01:28:24,119
heart there's no God in the Psalm. So atheism is

1700
01:28:24,119 --> 01:28:28,720
actually a moral and spiritual problem that has to do

1701
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:33,760
with pride and arrogance as opposed to a lack of

1702
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:39,319
evidence or knowledge. Treasures of wickedness profit nothing, but righteousness

1703
01:28:39,359 --> 01:28:43,159
delivers from death. So if we make our focus on

1704
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,960
just getting paid and stack stack in cash, our life.

1705
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 3: Will be profitless, our life will be travail.

1706
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:59,239
Speaker 1: But it's more important to be righteous, to live according

1707
01:28:59,279 --> 01:29:01,760
to the virtue, according to the Ten Commandments. That's more

1708
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,279
important than attaining wealth. But of course most of this

1709
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:11,760
world follows the attainment of wealth over any concern for righteousness.

1710
01:29:13,119 --> 01:29:15,279
The Lord will not allow the righteous soul to famish,

1711
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,920
but he casts away the desire of the wicked. And

1712
01:29:18,199 --> 01:29:20,159
remember and a lot of the proverbs we have what

1713
01:29:20,279 --> 01:29:22,960
are kind of it's its own unique type of literature,

1714
01:29:23,279 --> 01:29:26,640
wisdom literature, and they're giving generalities, so we have to

1715
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,880
understand what we interpret these. These are not absolute universal claims. Okay,

1716
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,359
it's not as if no righteous person was ever hungry,

1717
01:29:35,039 --> 01:29:38,479
but generally speaking, God will provide for his people and

1718
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,760
not allow them to be destroyed or to go hungry.

1719
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,279
And that could be interpreted both physically and spiritually as well.

1720
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,960
And we should always put a course the spiritual first

1721
01:29:50,359 --> 01:29:55,960
over the physical and the temporal. He who is lazy

1722
01:29:56,119 --> 01:29:59,800
or has a slack hand becomes poor, but the hand

1723
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:03,600
of the diligence makes one rich. Now, notice how many

1724
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,199
of the proverbs deal with economics, and we have a

1725
01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:08,840
lot of people who are super spiritual, and they're too

1726
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:13,640
spiritual for money and economics, especially when they're broke, young

1727
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,760
dudes who don't want to think about how to actually

1728
01:30:17,239 --> 01:30:19,000
make money or be successful.

1729
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:21,520
Speaker 3: It's much easier to piety.

1730
01:30:21,239 --> 01:30:23,520
Speaker 1: Signal and talk about how spiritual they are, even though

1731
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,720
they're not actually monks or monastics, or they haven't taken

1732
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,199
emails of poverty. They use that as a way to

1733
01:30:28,279 --> 01:30:30,640
feel better than other people, when in fact, no, it

1734
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:35,760
is still the case that working hard is what will

1735
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:39,680
make you successful, both in terms of spiritual things and

1736
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:45,880
in terms of earthly things, he who gathers in the

1737
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,920
summer as a white sun, but who sleeps in harvests

1738
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:48,920
a son who causes shame.

1739
01:30:49,039 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 3: So here we have another one against sloth.

1740
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 1: So the idea that just laying around and wasting time

1741
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:56,880
and not doing anything, not putting the hand to work

1742
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,760
or savings. Notice this is also a principal economically of

1743
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:05,640
saving money. Now, fiat money not the wisest thing to save.

1744
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:08,000
You might want to have some fiat money saved up for,

1745
01:31:08,199 --> 01:31:10,000
you know, because it's not always easy to get out

1746
01:31:10,039 --> 01:31:12,239
of gold or out of bitcoin per se. But until

1747
01:31:12,279 --> 01:31:13,960
we get onto a bitcoin standard, you might want to

1748
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,560
have some fiat. And certainly gold is better than fiat.

1749
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,199
But ultimately, I would say, in my view, bitcoin is

1750
01:31:20,359 --> 01:31:24,600
the ultimate time tested Well, I think we'll see it's

1751
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,119
time tested, but compared to gold, it will be the

1752
01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:29,479
ultimate time test of money because it's already been way

1753
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:32,039
more successful than gold has been. If you compare the

1754
01:31:32,119 --> 01:31:39,039
last fifteen years. Blessings are on the head of the righteous,

1755
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,640
but violence covers the mouth of the wicked.

1756
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,600
Speaker 3: Think about the way that the people in.

1757
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 1: The Antifa and the leftist crowd operates right. Think about revolutionaries.

1758
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:53,239
Think about robes Pier or Trotsky or Linen, and these

1759
01:31:53,239 --> 01:31:56,760
people are out for blood. The left these days they

1760
01:31:56,840 --> 01:32:03,319
want blood right Why because they're wicked, Because their violence

1761
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,279
even comes out of their mouth. They can't even talk

1762
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:13,199
without expressing a demonic furre to have blood in violence.

1763
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,880
But those that are righteous, that don't follow that path,

1764
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,640
we end up blessed. The memory of the righteous is

1765
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,279
even blessed, but the name of the wicked will rot.

1766
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,840
This is another proverb that backs up the idea of

1767
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,520
saints and honoring the lives of the saints, honoring the

1768
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,520
relics and the images of the saints. Because their memory

1769
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:37,239
is a blessing, it is blessed. But wicked men, oftentimes

1770
01:32:37,279 --> 01:32:41,840
in history go out with a bang and no one

1771
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:48,359
remembers them. Their name rots, they get forgotten. Here's a

1772
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,319
really important one for what we deal with on a

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01:32:50,399 --> 01:32:51,159
daily basis.

1774
01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 3: Now.

1775
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:55,520
Speaker 1: It definitely applies to today's dream, but it applies to

1776
01:32:55,560 --> 01:33:01,760
everybody in our lives. A wise man receives instruction, receives commands,

1777
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:09,079
receives rebukes, but prattling fools fail and will fall. Think

1778
01:33:09,119 --> 01:33:14,039
about the debate sphere. How appropriate is this to the

1779
01:33:14,079 --> 01:33:18,159
debate sphere. How many prattling fools have we heard over

1780
01:33:18,199 --> 01:33:22,159
the last five, seven, ten years of online debate? How

1781
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:27,800
many prattling feminists have Andrew and Rachel encountered? How many

1782
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,640
prattling atheists prattling feminists like not so erudite that I've

1783
01:33:32,039 --> 01:33:32,920
encountered and debated?

1784
01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:35,079
Speaker 3: And what happens?

1785
01:33:35,159 --> 01:33:39,279
Speaker 1: They make fools of themselves their very words, hang themselves

1786
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:43,399
within their own five minute diarrhea.

1787
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 3: Fits.

1788
01:33:47,039 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 1: But a person who's wise is willing to receive instruction.

1789
01:33:53,119 --> 01:33:56,319
He's willing to be corrected, willing to follow the truth

1790
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:57,560
no matter what.

1791
01:33:57,920 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 3: That's the goal here.

1792
01:34:00,359 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: The wise man doesn't try to make reality fit.

1793
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 3: What he wants to be the case. He follows the

1794
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,319
truth and thus is willing to.

1795
01:34:07,399 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 1: Be wrong, willing to be correct, and willing to be instructed.

1796
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:20,000
Everybody should be willing to be that way. He who

1797
01:34:20,079 --> 01:34:22,680
walks with integrity will walk surely, but those that pervert

1798
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:26,239
their way will become known. So remember, personal integrity is

1799
01:34:26,319 --> 01:34:30,159
very important, and your reputation with other people is really

1800
01:34:30,159 --> 01:34:32,479
important too. And when it comes to integrity, if you

1801
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,800
do not have integrity, what ends up happening is eventually

1802
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:40,239
you burn the bridges with everybody else right, mainly because

1803
01:34:40,279 --> 01:34:43,000
you don't have integrity. How many people have we seen

1804
01:34:43,039 --> 01:34:44,760
in the media sphere, in the alt media sphere of

1805
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,800
the internet sphere, with no integrity, who burn all the bridges,

1806
01:34:49,079 --> 01:34:52,399
lose all their friends, stab everybody else in the back,

1807
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,960
and they pervert their way, and ultimately a lot of

1808
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:04,159
of times this becomes known. The mouth of the righteous

1809
01:35:04,279 --> 01:35:06,319
is a well of life, but violence covers the mouth

1810
01:35:06,359 --> 01:35:09,359
of the wicked. Again, so the righteous is a well

1811
01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:11,800
of life. We can think of Jacob's well, we can

1812
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,439
think of the woman out the well. We can think

1813
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:16,319
of Jesus comparing himself to the flowing forth of the

1814
01:35:16,399 --> 01:35:19,279
waters of life as the ultimate well. Jesus say, is

1815
01:35:19,319 --> 01:35:22,279
that well, and his words are life. And so likewise

1816
01:35:22,319 --> 01:35:26,239
those of us who talk and explain this to other people,

1817
01:35:27,039 --> 01:35:30,199
as our catechisms say, those are works of mercy, to

1818
01:35:30,359 --> 01:35:35,239
correct the errant, to rebuke the wicked. In our little catechisms,

1819
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,359
in our little prayer books, we learn that those are

1820
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,680
good things to do, and it is actually good to

1821
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,680
do that. Now, you can have bad motives for doing that,

1822
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,319
but as long as you're doing it with good motives,

1823
01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:51,520
those are good things. And Thus the righteous own well spring,

1824
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,359
out of his own heart, out of his own mouth,

1825
01:35:54,600 --> 01:36:01,560
becomes a fountain of life. Hatred stirs up strife, but

1826
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:06,239
love covers sins. Why would you reach out to Fuentas?

1827
01:36:06,279 --> 01:36:09,039
Why would you try to say that you would like to,

1828
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:11,399
you know, see him flourish and do well.

1829
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 3: Why do you even do that?

1830
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,319
Speaker 1: Why do you reach out to these people? Because hatred

1831
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:20,840
stirs up strife, love and peace. Try to make amends.

1832
01:36:21,319 --> 01:36:25,840
Paul says, as much as depends on you, try to

1833
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:29,399
be at peace with all men. Now, obviously there's limitations.

1834
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:32,920
I don't reach out try to be friends with every

1835
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:38,760
single wicked person. That's wisdom, knowing when and where to

1836
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,640
apply it. But if you see people going in directions

1837
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,880
that you would like to help them not go into,

1838
01:36:45,399 --> 01:36:48,199
then it may I think it makes perfect sense. Why

1839
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:51,640
would I do debates with Tim Gordon? Do I hate

1840
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:53,199
Tim Gordon? Not at all.

1841
01:36:54,079 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 3: I loved him. I liked him a lot.

1842
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I consider Tim Abro, his his family, they're amazing people,

1843
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,880
They're great people. The debates, even if they get heated

1844
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,520
and intense, from my vantage point, are because I don't

1845
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,399
want to see him being.

1846
01:37:11,239 --> 01:37:12,159
Speaker 3: In a bad situation.

1847
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,560
Speaker 1: When I debated Nick Flin this, I didn't hate Nick

1848
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,600
Flint this. I don't judge him on anything. I would

1849
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,239
like to see him move in the right direction. And look,

1850
01:37:22,399 --> 01:37:25,680
it's the same method and approach that you get from

1851
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:30,000
me with everybody. Well, Alex Jones asked me about an

1852
01:37:30,079 --> 01:37:32,399
Orthodox church this and that. I say, here's a good

1853
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:35,880
Orthodox church in Austin, Texas. Check out Father Moses' Church.

1854
01:37:37,159 --> 01:37:39,199
A lot of people say, hel come di or didn't

1855
01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:42,720
call out Elijah Schaeffer. Well, first of all, I almost

1856
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,840
never call out people's personal lives over here.

1857
01:37:46,039 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 3: I don't do that.

1858
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,359
Speaker 1: It's not a lot of drama streams. I will do

1859
01:37:49,399 --> 01:37:51,119
a blood sports debate or something like that. That's not

1860
01:37:51,159 --> 01:37:53,039
a huge deal to me. But we don't usually do

1861
01:37:53,079 --> 01:37:55,600
a lot of the drama stuff over here. And doesn't

1862
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,239
bother me that people do it. That's fine, that's their thing.

1863
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,439
Is not what I typically do. Wow, Elijah reached out

1864
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:04,199
to me after we were on the show a couple

1865
01:38:04,319 --> 01:38:06,159
times with him. We did an interview and then I

1866
01:38:06,199 --> 01:38:09,159
think we did a debate. We had Luigi Downe there

1867
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and then we had the debate with Tim and Elijah said, hey,

1868
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,399
I'm interested in Orthodoxy, Could you put me in touch

1869
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,039
with anybody, a preach or somebody, And he got Father

1870
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:21,920
Moses's number and they had one conversation. So what was

1871
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,279
it you thought I was supposed to do in this situation?

1872
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 3: Was I supposed to make.

1873
01:38:26,159 --> 01:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Exposed streams on Elijah? I don't follow Elijah's personal life.

1874
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's up to.

1875
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,159
Speaker 1: But in that situation, I did the exact same thing

1876
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that I've done with every single other person in this sphere.

1877
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If they asked me questions about Orthodoxy or if we

1878
01:38:40,119 --> 01:38:46,359
have that conversation, I point them in that direction. And

1879
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:49,359
it was the same thing with Sarah Stock. Now if

1880
01:38:49,359 --> 01:38:50,479
those people don't go.

1881
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Speaker 3: In that direction, if they choose not to pursue, that

1882
01:38:55,279 --> 01:38:55,920
can't control that.

1883
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Speaker 1: That's not up to me. People said years ago, why

1884
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:01,680
did you go hey out with Wikiphase he's a.

1885
01:39:03,239 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 3: Wickan. He's not.

1886
01:39:05,119 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 1: It's just a name that he chose because he thought

1887
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,079
it was cool. And when I went and hung out

1888
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with him, I got him to get an Orthodox study ball.

1889
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He said, I want to talk to you about the Bible.

1890
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Tell me what Bible I should get. Everybody said, oh,

1891
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,720
you're hanging out with him and doing magic rituals and Satanism.

1892
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There was none of that told, just absolute nonsense. Because

1893
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,199
we thought of a funny picture next to a casket

1894
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:31,960
that was a B movie set. There was also an

1895
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:36,880
airbrush snake. Yeah, Satanists are really worshiping in an airbrushed snake.

1896
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So yeah, airbrush people are doing the work at the

1897
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Satanan tips.

1898
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Speaker 3: Come on, dude.

1899
01:39:43,079 --> 01:39:45,359
Speaker 1: The whole vibe was hanging out and joking around. We

1900
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did an interview.

1901
01:39:49,319 --> 01:39:52,520
Speaker 3: Why would you talk to Dasha? Because I want DAWs

1902
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:53,560
should have become Orthodox.

1903
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,520
Speaker 1: I think her husband is Okay, she moves in the

1904
01:39:56,560 --> 01:40:01,239
direction of being interested in Eastern Cathol. Hey, that's a

1905
01:40:01,319 --> 01:40:07,399
step in our direction. Maybe she'll become Orthodox. So people

1906
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:13,920
love to string together these conspiracies. It's like all we

1907
01:40:14,039 --> 01:40:15,560
do is the same thing with all these people.

1908
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Speaker 3: Why were you on Crowder?

1909
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:22,960
Speaker 1: You work for Crowder? Andrew helped me get an interview

1910
01:40:23,079 --> 01:40:27,520
with Gerald and we talked about all the same stuff

1911
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we always thought about, like what do you expect man

1912
01:40:30,039 --> 01:40:33,560
when I go on the Hodge Twins and the Hodge

1913
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Twins say, I think be pretty based, ain't it.

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Speaker 3: No, Islam's not based.

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Speaker 14: Here's what.

1916
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,680
Speaker 1: Bees we have the same conversation I have anybody else.

1917
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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good idea to intentionally try

1919
01:41:02,279 --> 01:41:05,760
to stir up strife without some good reason. You do

1920
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have to have you draw your line in the sand.

1921
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You have a red line, right, you don't cross that line.

1922
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Sometimes it is necessary to call people out. But I

1923
01:41:17,079 --> 01:41:19,880
think that the general attitude is we try to keep

1924
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,479
the peace, We try to be on good terms with people,

1925
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:27,079
and you know, say, in the case of Nick, I've

1926
01:41:27,159 --> 01:41:29,520
only disagreed with certain takes and positions.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

1928
01:41:32,199 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 1: Same approach to Tim Gordon disagree with certain takes and positions.

1929
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And by the way, remember the attitude of proverbs here,

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a true friend will tell you if he disagrees, and

1931
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will help you if he thinks you're making a if

1932
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you need a course correct, A yes man, a gopher,

1933
01:41:58,199 --> 01:42:06,840
a toady isn't a true friend. There's another thing too,

1934
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that I think goes on in this sphere, and there's

1935
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a reason for it.

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Speaker 3: Again, as we've talked.

1937
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Speaker 1: About in the media sphere, a lot of people are

1938
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you know, backstabber, narcissistic types of people. Because it's media,

1939
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:19,359
it draws that kind of a you know, people that

1940
01:42:19,439 --> 01:42:22,600
want attention and all that. So there is a tendency

1941
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:25,119
for people in media to you have to be on

1942
01:42:25,359 --> 01:42:28,760
guard because so many people are snakes and they'll burn

1943
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:33,560
you and they burn bridges. So it's understandable why people

1944
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would be so guarded, and that makes perfect sense.

1945
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Speaker 3: I have to be guarded too.

1946
01:42:37,319 --> 01:42:39,720
Speaker 1: There was somebody reaching out to me, Oh, let's do this,

1947
01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:42,319
let's do this, and I'm like, I don't know you,

1948
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:46,000
so let's hold your horse's dog. I don't know you yet.

1949
01:42:49,079 --> 01:42:55,039
So but I think that our goal not just in media,

1950
01:42:55,119 --> 01:42:58,000
but whatever your job is, whatever you're doing in life, right,

1951
01:42:58,399 --> 01:43:02,319
Proverbs is going to be a great instruction manual on

1952
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,039
how to handle things practically.

1953
01:43:06,159 --> 01:43:10,039
Speaker 3: And I'm just saying from my own experience over the years.

1954
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I've been doing Proverbs.

1955
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Speaker 1: Over and over and over since I was like nineteen,

1956
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and that's because it's helped me a lot throughout life.

1957
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,880
I've always found new insights, new nuggets, new wisdom, and

1958
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:25,000
same with the rest of the doer canonical text too, but.

1959
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Speaker 3: Especially young men.

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Speaker 1: I would encourage young men to consistently get in the

1961
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:38,079
habit of Proverbs. Wise people store up knowledge, but the

1962
01:43:38,199 --> 01:43:39,840
mouth of the fool is near destruction?

1963
01:43:41,279 --> 01:43:42,560
Speaker 3: Were you go in books?

1964
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: You read all them books?

1965
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:47,199
Speaker 3: What did we see tates at the other day? I

1966
01:43:47,239 --> 01:43:50,760
don't read books, torks, I need to have a fight,

1967
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:51,680
I need to fuck.

1968
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Speaker 4: I don't read books.

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01:43:54,079 --> 01:43:59,239
Speaker 1: God right, well, Proverbs says otherwise. Proverbs says that a

1970
01:43:59,279 --> 01:44:04,359
wise man stores up knowledge. Hence why you see two

1971
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:08,800
different rooms in this house that are all books. And

1972
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:11,079
by the way, having a home library was something everybody

1973
01:44:11,159 --> 01:44:12,600
had fifty sixty years ago.

1974
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:14,640
Speaker 3: Did you know every home used to have a home library.

1975
01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:18,520
And now what do men have? Do men have a study?

1976
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 1: Now they have their man cave, so they have their

1977
01:44:21,159 --> 01:44:25,560
simulated masculinity of sportshole all the way. Shout out to

1978
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,359
all almost three thousand of y'all. We had over three

1979
01:44:28,399 --> 01:44:30,439
thousand earlier. Shout out to all y'all who are not

1980
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:37,239
obsessed with sports whole props to all of the cool

1981
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:43,359
dudes and nine percent chicks who are not obsessing over

1982
01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:45,000
sweaty black men running in circles.

1983
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:47,079
Speaker 3: Did you see the blood dude?

1984
01:44:47,239 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 1: You run in a circle? Oh my gosh, dude, he

1985
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:52,840
just but he did so much running in a circle,

1986
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:53,960
and he did he did it again.

1987
01:44:54,039 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 6: It was like coly crop, dude. And he was freaking

1988
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,560
sweaty when he did it so much it was freaking

1989
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:05,640
sweat dude. The freaking black dudes are running in circles again. Honey, Honey,

1990
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,399
come in here. I'm gonna scream at the screen because

1991
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:13,319
the black dudes are running in the circle. He did it.

1992
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 5: I can't believe he.

1993
01:45:22,079 --> 01:45:30,199
Speaker 1: Ran in a circle. I grew up with people obsessed

1994
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:35,039
with freaking Tennessee football. If you're from Tennessee, man, my

1995
01:45:35,159 --> 01:45:36,279
blood runs orange.

1996
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:38,039
Speaker 6: My blood runs or boy.

1997
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 1: Now, we have some fans of sports who always get

1998
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:45,199
mad when I do this. I don't care if you

1999
01:45:45,319 --> 01:45:46,920
like football. I'm just talking about the people that make

2000
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:47,800
it their religion, dude.

2001
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:52,359
Speaker 3: And I grew up with my blood runs orange.

2002
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: Do people in Tennessee get ut orange coffins? They paint

2003
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,720
their house orange. And I'm not kidding. When I worked

2004
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:06,119
at the paint store for ten years, I had memorized

2005
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:16,239
the formula of ut orange. So I grew up with.

2006
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:27,199
Speaker 15: Uh uncles and aunts. And I was about to say dads,

2007
01:46:27,239 --> 01:46:29,239
but I only have one dad, Dad's I had.

2008
01:46:29,159 --> 01:46:31,600
Speaker 1: My two dads. I grew up. I grew up my

2009
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,359
two dads and they were just screaming up the TV Tennessee.

2010
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,119
Speaker 3: Anyway, just kidding. I don't have two dads.

2011
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't have What if What if I did have

2012
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,199
two dads and my two dads were actually Paul Reiser

2013
01:46:45,279 --> 01:46:47,640
and that other tall bearded dude. What if Paul Riiser

2014
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,439
and that bearded dude were my real two dads? But

2015
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:53,159
also they were straight?

2016
01:46:53,399 --> 01:46:54,039
Speaker 6: Whoa dude?

2017
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,119
Speaker 3: Because I remember in my two dads, weren't they were straight?

2018
01:46:58,199 --> 01:46:58,279
Speaker 4: Right?

2019
01:46:58,359 --> 01:47:03,039
Speaker 1: It wasn't two gay dudes? Rachel, Did you want to

2020
01:47:03,079 --> 01:47:04,840
come up? I saw a minute ago you were thumbing down.

2021
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:08,039
Did you want to say something? Feel free to chime

2022
01:47:08,079 --> 01:47:15,800
in if you would like to. By the way, it's

2023
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:17,960
just jokes you guys, like if you want to watch football,

2024
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,760
I don't really care. I mean I will watch a

2025
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:25,359
h a uh I like an mm A fight every

2026
01:47:25,399 --> 01:47:26,239
now and then. Those are fun.

2027
01:47:28,319 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 10: If I thumbed down, I did.

2028
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:30,279
Speaker 6: Not mean to.

2029
01:47:30,640 --> 01:47:33,279
Speaker 1: That's okay, I don't you could you could disagree, And.

2030
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 10: Because I was backing you up on the I have

2031
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,039
the same canvas tards in my timeline all over the

2032
01:47:40,119 --> 01:47:41,560
place telling me I'm.

2033
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 16: Gonna you're gonna recruit this when it turns out that

2034
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,520
Candace can prove that she was doing the astral projection,

2035
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:49,800
you're gonna feel stupid.

2036
01:47:50,319 --> 01:47:52,319
Speaker 10: And they're like telling me, They're like, you're.

2037
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:54,680
Speaker 16: Just saying this because you're a fed hill and you

2038
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,159
don't know about the CIA.

2039
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:57,359
Speaker 15: You don't know about it.

2040
01:47:57,359 --> 01:48:00,560
Speaker 10: And I'm like, bitch, I'm right about the shift years.

2041
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 1: If you're by the way, how would you prove how

2042
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:07,520
would substa dummies? How would you prove that Candice can't

2043
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:12,279
astral project I'm thinking, uh, she would have already got me,

2044
01:48:12,399 --> 01:48:13,840
you know what I mean? Like if I woke up

2045
01:48:14,039 --> 01:48:17,159
with sleep paralysis and I look over and I would see,

2046
01:48:17,239 --> 01:48:20,159
you know, sweet Candy's uh, you know, ethereal body over

2047
01:48:20,239 --> 01:48:24,000
there ready to pounce, then I would believe it.

2048
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,079
Speaker 10: I'm just wondering how come she didn't get any vibes

2049
01:48:27,159 --> 01:48:30,600
about Like why didn't she any premonitions or dreams to

2050
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,399
warn him not to go that day or have more

2051
01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:35,600
security or something.

2052
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 16: I guess all of her psychic abilities.

2053
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:38,479
Speaker 10: Failed on that day.

2054
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:46,079
Speaker 16: But it's just like they're they're so terrifyingly wrapped into this,

2055
01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:50,000
They're so bought in that it's there. I have Christians

2056
01:48:50,159 --> 01:48:53,359
arguing with me, that astral projection and stuff.

2057
01:48:53,159 --> 01:48:55,199
Speaker 8: Is that it's actually biblically supportive.

2058
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,399
Speaker 16: What about Paul and pauls And I'm just like, dude,

2059
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,680
you they're so crazy that you really just can't even

2060
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,359
talk to them. They're like way past.

2061
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Talking to Actually, you know what the whole thing of

2062
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:08,840
like the people.

2063
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:11,239
Speaker 16: Coming at me saying I'm a fed shill who like

2064
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:15,079
loves the CIA, or I don't know about the CIA, and.

2065
01:49:15,119 --> 01:49:16,520
Speaker 3: It's like, what are you talking about?

2066
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 16: I have a bestseller which has entire chapters on CIA fuckery.

2067
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,680
Speaker 1: What do you mean I've never what do you mean

2068
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:23,239
I don't.

2069
01:49:23,079 --> 01:49:23,520
Speaker 5: Know about it?

2070
01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:24,199
Speaker 4: No?

2071
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:28,079
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And uh I have to give some points though,

2072
01:49:28,079 --> 01:49:31,399
because that's actually pretty creative is of Jesus there. I'll

2073
01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:33,960
give some points like I wouldn't have even thought about

2074
01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:38,119
using Paul's you know, vision of the third Heavens. That's

2075
01:49:38,159 --> 01:49:41,199
actually a pretty creative attempt at to prove texting for

2076
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,119
for astral projection. I'll have to give some points for that.

2077
01:49:44,199 --> 01:49:46,000
That's that's creat it's not that's not what the text

2078
01:49:46,039 --> 01:49:48,199
is about, but that's they get some points for creative

2079
01:49:48,239 --> 01:49:53,439
is of Jesus. But yes, now I'm all lost in

2080
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:57,479
my thoughts I was about to go to something, I

2081
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:59,399
forgot what it was. Or let's go back to Proverbs

2082
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:03,279
skin one. So wisdom has found the lips of those understanding,

2083
01:50:03,319 --> 01:50:05,239
but the rod is for the back of those who

2084
01:50:05,319 --> 01:50:08,520
are devoid of understanding. I would say that if you

2085
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,960
think about generally in life, people that have understanding, they're

2086
01:50:13,079 --> 01:50:20,000
usually able to avoid prison and prison beatings anyway, whise

2087
01:50:20,039 --> 01:50:22,399
people store up knowledge that we did that one. A

2088
01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:25,239
rich man's wealth is his strong city, but the destruction

2089
01:50:25,399 --> 01:50:28,560
of the poor is their poverty. The righteous leads to life,

2090
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,600
the labor of the righteous life, the wages of the

2091
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:34,159
wicked is sin. Paul repeats that, of course in principle

2092
01:50:34,199 --> 01:50:38,159
in Galatians right, he who keeps instruction in the way

2093
01:50:38,199 --> 01:50:41,000
of life is in the way of life. But he

2094
01:50:41,119 --> 01:50:45,159
refuses correction goes astray. So notice, oftentimes we are our

2095
01:50:45,239 --> 01:50:50,439
own worst enemies. If we do not receive correction and instruction,

2096
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:54,640
we usually end up going astray, and that's because of

2097
01:50:54,720 --> 01:51:01,560
our own hardheadedness. Whoever has hides hatred has lying lips,

2098
01:51:02,359 --> 01:51:05,600
and whoever spreads slander is a fool. This is important

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one to remember because the Internet is a rage hate machine.

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And this week alone, for example, I saw a lot

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of speculation and people gossiping, and I understand that as commentators,

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obviously our character to a degree matters.

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Speaker 3: But also.

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Speaker 1: Remember when we call things out right, we'll have to

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give an account as well. So now I'm not saying

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that that makes Sarah Stock an ideal right wing commentator.

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I'm not saying that, and I'm not saying that I'm

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condoning Elijah or any of that. I'm just saying, like,

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I've seen sex scandals in media and government and it

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never ends. But I don't know what to say about that.

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I would just simply say that a lot of people

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capitalize on events when they hate a person. That's what

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I'm trying to say, and I think as Orthodox we

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should not do that. Again, it takes wisdom and it

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takes propriety to know when to call something out and

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when to not, and also, as Scripture says many times,

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to overlook a transgression. Now I'm not saying overlook Sarah

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Stock or Elijah, you know, being hypocritical, But also I'm

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saying that let's be measured in the way that we

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go about these things, because in the media world, nobody's measured.

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Everyone just rushes to judgment, rushes to the worst, and

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they hide their real motivations and wait until something comes

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out on people that they hate or they want to

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take them down. And I don't really think that that's

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the right attitude that we should have. I believe that

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if people are ill motivated and ill willed and they're

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not sincere, time will eventually make that clear. Time will tell,

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so you don't have to go on crusades to take

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people down. You know, a lot of people, for example,

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have spent years they try to take Rachel and Andrew down.

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They spent years trying to take me down. They want

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to take them down, they want to expose them in

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and it's almost always some bunch of nonsense from ten

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to fifteen years ago. Oh didn't ten years ago you

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drunk Texas somebody? Yes, ten years ago, fifteen years ago

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I had drunk text somebody, Yes, big deal, good job,

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you got me.

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Speaker 4: So what.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just usually nothing burger stuff, right,

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And also you know, I would say, in the case

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of Eligen Sarah, like yeah, they're probably not morally read

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to be leaders in the movement. But I mean, is

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that the biggest issue. I mean, the Epstein stuff is

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the biggest news in the world. That's like expose the

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entire architecture of how our world is run by wicked people.

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Speaker 3: I think that's way more important than this kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: But everybody kind of loves the and that's kind of

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a sache.

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Speaker 16: Okay, not to interrupt you, but I think it's pronounced

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the arket texture.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, but Rachel, that's a little too mockerber for

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my content. I don't go into the machober stuff, the

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dark machiber stuff.

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Speaker 10: That's because you can't compart.

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Speaker 8: Comprompt compremental wise, compremental properly, how to.

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Speaker 10: Pronounce the word.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, maybe you'd like to explain the fact how

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you come from a federal operative background and come from

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a green Brett family. Aren't your family all members of

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the Green Berets.

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Speaker 5: He got me, He got me.

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Speaker 3: Oh there we go.

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Speaker 1: See this is what happens when people see all along.

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I was actually a Candace mole to infiltrate Candace haters,

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and now I have it a successfully exposual. You heard

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it from Rachel's on mouth. She's from a family of

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Green Barrets. Now, some people say green beret. That's actually inappropriate,

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that's not the proper Actually, Candace was right all along.

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Water does freeze at or melts at What does she say?

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Thirty thirty four? I don't forget what she said. By

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the way, I'm actually projecting right now, I'm astral projecting into.

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Speaker 16: Candace's water freezes at zero, and so when it's thirty

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something degrees out, it should just be melting like crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh is that what she thought? She didn't, She didn't

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realize it was thirty two. I didn't really understand what

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I knew she was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I was like, does she not them? People were like,

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she meant celsius.

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Speaker 6: It's like, sure, he good, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Sure the multitude of in the multitude of words, sin

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is not lacking, but he restrains his lips is wise.

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So notice a lot of people rush to speak and yap,

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and a lot of people yap without.

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Speaker 3: Communicating what they really mean.

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Speaker 1: So don't rush to speak, don't rush to judge, and

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you don't actually gain anything by massive amounts of yapping.

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Speaker 3: And even Solomon is telling this and telling us this,

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and propers. The tongue of the.

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Speaker 1: Righteous is silver, choice silver, But the heart of the

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wicked is worth little. The lips of the righteous feed many,

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but fools die for lack of wisdom. Blessing the Lord

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makes one rich and he adds no sorrow to it.

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So notice, if God blesses you because you're doing things righteously,

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your your wealth, your wisdom, And that can be physical,

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actual monetary wealth, or it can be spiritual wealth, intellectual wealth,

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whatever like. It doesn't come with curses and punishments. It's

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a blessed thing.

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Speaker 4: To do.

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Speaker 1: Evil is like sport to a fool. But a man

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of understanding has wisdom, the fear of the wicked will

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come upon him, the desire the rights will be granted.

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When the whirlwind passes, the wicked is no more, but

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the righteous has an everlasting foundation.

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Speaker 3: I like this too.

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Speaker 1: To think about this in perspective, like, think about how

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many throughout the course of the world, how many wicked

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people there were a lot, And think of how many

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wicked people prospered in their life. Now fast forward two

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thousands of years later. Who remembers or.

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Speaker 3: Knows any of those wicked people? Nobody?

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Speaker 1: So what did they really get out of it? A

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brief bit of pleasure perhaps, and perhaps a lot of

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pain as well. So when we put things into perspective,

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the whirlwind of time comes, and the wicked are no

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more as vinegar to the teeth and smoke to the eyes.

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So is the lazy man to those who send him.

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Again a lot of rebukes of sloth in the proverbs.

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So again, think about how many things deal with work,

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deal with economics, and deal with your daily interactions and

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01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:19,439
operating from a position of integrity. The fear of the

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Lord prolongs days, but the years the wicked will be shortened.

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The hope of the righteous will be gladness, with the

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expectation of the wicked is will perish the way the

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Lord is strength of the upright, but destruction will come

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upon the workers of iniquity. So just remember bide your time.

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If people are bad, they're mistreating you. In the end,

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in the long run, they will undo themselves ultimately. Don't

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01:58:43,319 --> 01:58:47,920
worry about it, dog. The righteous will never be moved,

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01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:49,880
but the wicked will not inhabit the earth. So this

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reflects into the sermon on the Mountain right. The righteous

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01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:55,800
will inhabit the earth, or won' inherit the earth. The

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mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom but the perverse

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tongue will be cut out. The lips of the righteous

2234
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:03,439
know what it acceptible, but the mouth of wicked is

2235
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what is perversed. So a lot of focus into this

2236
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first chapter here ten on our words and our economic

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01:59:11,319 --> 01:59:12,880
interactions and our.

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Speaker 3: Work ethic. So let's take that into account the next

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time you are tempted to.

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Speaker 1: Say, it's not my fault that I'm in this situation.

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Everything sucks and it's everybody else's fault in it. No, yeah,

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01:59:28,479 --> 01:59:30,640
things are bad, but there's always been corrupt.

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Speaker 3: People and things have been bad.

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Speaker 1: So that's not an excuse for sloth, and it's not

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an excuse to try to circumvent righteous ways of operating.

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Seventy reasons, five dollars. I'm looking to start my journey

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01:59:46,640 --> 01:59:50,920
into orthodox I was Baptist, raised, Baptist help our Brimstone,

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01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,479
saw a lot of hypocrisy, and it turned me off

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of religion. Thirty five years later, your debates and your

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content are opening my eyes. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad to hear that.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't blame I think a lot of

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people kind of especially if you grew up in that

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fundamentalist type stuff as I did. You kind of have

2255
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a phase where you're like, Nah, this is stupid.

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Speaker 3: And then usually you kind of, you know, gradually make

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your way back to.

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02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:22,840
Speaker 1: More sensible historic versions of the religion. Tara Michael two dollars.

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Do you experience cognitive dissonance? I'm sure everybody does, right,

2260
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because ultimately we're all falling, and so we all don't

2261
02:00:30,239 --> 02:00:31,439
want to be wrong, right.

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Speaker 3: Everybody wants to be right. Nobody wants to be wrong.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure that there are things that I don't

2264
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know about that I haven't even noticed that I have

2265
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cognitive dissonance about. But I would imagine that's true for everybody.

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I think nobody in this life is going to be

2267
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completely free from traits that characterize the fallen state crash film.

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Sen dollars day, blessings to you. You are a great

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influence in my twenty two year old life. I'm a

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I mean, katechisis at a Greek parish, all right, why

2271
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are you ro co War? I think roqu War has

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done better being faithful to the Orthodox tradition. Generally speaking,

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it doesn't mean that that there's nobody righteous amongst the

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Greek Orthodox or anything. I'm not saying that at all

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just for example, you know, Rokorp had the nineteen eighty

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two or three statement, for example, condemning acumenism, And while

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there are many people in the Greek churches who are

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anti ecumenist, the hierarchy typically is pro acumenist.

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Speaker 3: So I think that there's.

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Speaker 1: Reasons like that, and also beyond any of the theology stuff,

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I just ended up vibing really well with my priest.

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Speaker 3: We have a great relationship.

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Speaker 1: He's been a very awesome person in my life. A

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lot of respect for him, and everybody that meets him

2285
02:01:52,079 --> 02:01:53,680
also feels the same way. A lot of people respect

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for the Vladimir, So I don't have anything bad to

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say about any of that. He's an amazing person, loving

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very dearly. Bill Brown ten dollars. Where can I get

2289
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:06,960
Jayder subject matter list of books.

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Speaker 2: Was?

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Speaker 1: It was on the website, but I took it down

2292
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because it was all jumbled up and the code was

2293
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all crap. So, uh, just you could look at my channel,

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02:02:18,479 --> 02:02:20,920
the global elite books that we cover, or top fifteen

2295
02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:22,760
Orthodox books, top fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Books to read before you die. Those are good places

2297
02:02:25,279 --> 02:02:30,039
to start, but you know, there's not really one master list.

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02:02:30,079 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 1: I think if you read if you get the Red Book,

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my read book. In the back of the Red Book

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there's a reading list, so you can go to my

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02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:41,319
website and in the shop get the Red Book. American

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squid Word two dollars. What business advice would you give

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02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,800
to your twenty year old self? Stack Bigquin.

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Speaker 3: Even though Bigquin didn't exist, but.

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02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:52,720
Speaker 1: Still Faradine Karino five dollars? On your father mother, Is

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that absolute? No, None of the commands typically are absolutely.

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For example, if your father and mother, if they try

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to undermine a higher authority such as God, you honor

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the higher authority over the lower. So, for example, if

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your father and mother said you must worship Bail, we

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are your parents, you must honor us.

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Speaker 3: You have a duty to a higher authority to not

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worship bail.

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Speaker 1: What about situations of where it's impossible and the parents

2315
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are abusive, Yes, toxic parents and family members. You must

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02:03:25,279 --> 02:03:28,199
set boundaries, You must do things like gray rock all

2317
02:03:28,279 --> 02:03:31,399
of that, especially if they're narcissistic. But you also have

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02:03:31,479 --> 02:03:34,359
to be careful to realize, you know, am I being

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02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:38,239
a rebellious kid or are my parents actually being abusive?

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And if they are being abusive, then yes, you do

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have to set boundaries even with parents, so no honoring

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your father mother is not absolute because they're not God.

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Speaker 3: Caden fifty dollars Cake