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I love it. It's looking, uh, looking pretty slick. I
gotta tell you, Dan unexpected afternoon. I gotta. I have
to open with a little bit of a complaint. I
had it, well, I had it. I had a doctor's
appointment and I thought, for some reason, I don't know
why I got why don't they tell you what it
is like before aids? No? But like, why don't they
tell you what is going on, like what the appointment is?
Speaker 3: Because well don't they tell you that when you schedule it?
Speaker 2: I guess, but I don't remember.
Speaker 4: Physical or check up well or high blood pressure okay
or okay?
Speaker 2: So I inverted you know, yeah, I inverted nipples. I
I I thought it was to talk about adderall or something.
I really did, because he had said, we're gonna have
to talk about this in a couple months in New
York States, really tight on it. We can just do
a telehealth. So I get this thing and I figure, oh,
that's what it is. But it's saying go to the office,
and I go, you know what, good, I got some
other questions here. I'll ask about okay.
Speaker 3: Started to turn into me. Well, I mean just going
with a list.
Speaker 2: I don't have a list. Says well, I guess doc.
Speaker 4: I got this copper colored thing on my foot.
Speaker 2: So I get in there and the lady's taking stuff
and she does my height and weight, and she goes,
do you want to take your jacket off? I go no,
because the next time you take my weight, I'll be like, hey, shit,
I fucking lost that. She laughed and then did my
height and then we go in the room and she
takes my blood pressure and stuff and she says, all right,
you got to put it. You're here for a physical.
And I went what and she goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, tune a cat pan dova she said.
Speaker 2: She says to me, you're here for a physical I go,
I am. She goes, oh, you're not kidding. I said, no,
I thought it was here to talk about like an
adderall prescriptions of trip.
Speaker 4: Put on the gown.
Speaker 2: And she goes, well, you can talk to me about it.
She goes, don't take off your pants, take off your socks,
your shoes, your shirt, and put on the gown. I go, okay.
So she said it's gonna be about forty minutes with him,
and I said, all right, so I get the whole thing.
I will say this.
Speaker 4: They give you the electro cardiogram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I and so I so they give you
the EKG right. Yeah. Now, one time I set off
the alarms because I got my heart rate so low.
But I didn't. I was not able to do that today,
I guess. And I said to her, I said, to
the lady, because all of a sudden she plugs it
in and then it seems like she just takes it
off me like it was on there for oh yeah,
twenty seconds, and if it was that long, yeah, So
I said, uh, this camera's all goofing up and it's
pissing me off.
Speaker 4: It's just like, you know, sorry, this wasn't solved that
your doctor supported.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's going so I uh so I
say to them, as she said, I go, can you
tell me what this? She goes, I really can't read them.
Speaker 4: Yeah they can't. The doctor has to interpret it.
Speaker 2: And I said, oh, and she goes, but as long
as it looks like the other one, it's fine, she goes,
because this will tell you about block it. So they'll
tell you all this stuff. So I said, okay, now
I get They get to the question and he's going
through the stuff. Still two three beers a week? This
isn't that funny?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is under over two and a half, two
or three beers FanDuel has yet six.
Speaker 3: It is super Bowl week, two.
Speaker 2: Or three beers a week? So I go, three, I mean.
Speaker 3: You lied to him the last time.
Speaker 2: I guess I did.
Speaker 3: Are we just talking beer?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he I don't know, like what
I don't know. So he asked the question and he
says too, and he says it with a question marker
that two or three beers a week, and I must
have left enough hang time in there that I did.
I didn't even make an audible sound. It just was
hang because I'm going, what do I say here? So
then he goes, uh, is it more than that? How
much are we talking? And I said five? And he
goes all all beer, And I said, I go, notch up.
Speaker 4: My bar when your voice goes up with an octavity beer.
Speaker 2: And wine, you know, beer of wine. And he's he says,
what are we talking? Three beer, two wine a week?
I go yeah, And then as I'm thinking about it,
I go, holy shit, if that's the case, If that's
what I'm supposed to have. I drank twenty twenty six
when Fallon was here, I got nothing left. It's all over.
Speaker 1: Was he entire?
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: Known him from Facebook and I don't even have an account.
Speaker 2: So then I and then I they say to me,
you didn't have a flu shot this year, and so
normally I don't get the flu shot, but.
Speaker 4: You got enough alcohol that I'm sure any germs in there, well,
probably a race.
Speaker 2: I always think, like I am, I have the immune
system of a sewer rat, you know what I mean?
And I do a sinus wash as disgusting as that
sounds at night and in the morning when I wake up. No,
this is it's like a geyser. I shoot like Celine, oh,
distilled water mixed with salt packets, and I squeeze it
and it shoots up my nose and a menagerie comes out.
Oh wow, yeah, yeah, it's love. I try that. Yeah,
you can try it. It's uh I don't you know women,
Women love fucking love what you know.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen those Divage commercials where those divags it's
like basically holding up like a fish tank to your nose.
I haven't seen those in a while. I wonder if
they went out of business.
Speaker 2: So yes, yeah, right, yeah, I remember seeing that too
because it was like electric.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: They just cycled it through yeah, like thirty and they
looked like it's so clean.
Speaker 4: Everyone's smiling when we know the realities.
Speaker 2: Well, I haven't gotten sick since I do that. I
did that, and then during COVID I never got anything.
Then I stopped doing it. I got COVID, So I'm thinking, like,
most of the stuff probably goes through your mouth or
your nose. Uh so. But then the kid I was
with was knocked out with the flu for like three weeks.
So I figured, all right, I'll get the flu shot.
And then he goes, you know, they have a new
new macacle bacteria thing. And I and I have been
susceptible to pneumonia, like since I was a child. I
was hospitalized with it several times. So I figured, I
don't feel like if I can do them. Remember when
we were on the break room and I got it
and I was knocked out for like oh.
Speaker 3: Gosh, yeah, Tommy and I had to do the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you.
Speaker 4: Were like watching episodes of Judge wasn't Judge. Judy was
some black judge, Lady Judge, and they gave you a codeine.
You said it was like Emmy Award winning because the
codeine affected you. I remember that it was in May
or June. It was like midsummer. You had like some
type of pneumoia.
Speaker 2: Because it was Yeah, it was because uh it was
like summer pneumonia is the worst Vinnie Press sent over.
I mean it knocked my ass out. Yeah, and Vinnie
sent somebody over to mow my lawn like yeah, oh
yeah yeah, because it was uh so anyway, uh so
that all happens and then I go to Wegmans. I
have to complain. I never thought I would say this.
I fucking hate going to Wegmans, like, like literally hate it.
This is why, you know, a lot of times when
I'm busy on a weekend, I'll just have Instacart bring stuff.
It makes life easier. But this was I needed to
find garbage bags. I can't find the garbage bags. Nothing
is intuitive. And then it's like, oh, it's one aisle over.
They split it. The garbage bags are in the end
of the aisle, across from the frozen food section, which
was annoying the shit out of me because I would
go down that far. But then I know that the
freezers are there, so I wouldn't go down that aisle.
I must have been in there an extra ten minutes
because of this. Then I can't find Lazania noodles. And
I'm looking everywhere for fucking Lazani noodles. I've been up
and down the past aisle several times. Way in the
back way in the back top shelf, only Lazani noodles.
I can find Wegman's brand. Fine, got it. Now Jamison
wants the smoothie, but he wants the big bottle of
like the boat house or whatever they call it, mango smoothie.
Speaker 3: And he's like, you gotta swim your way out.
Speaker 2: He says, they're right in the front. I call him up.
I go, buddy, you work here. Do you have the app?
He goes, No, I don't have the app. I go,
you gotta tell me where this shit? He goes, I can't.
I go. This is driving me absolutely fucking insane, and
it's getting more and more crowded.
Speaker 4: And when you do, when you rely insta cart for
your groceries, you forget the mental map of Wegman. So therefore,
when you change everything, I know that's what they do,
they do change it on that too. So now all
of a sudden, it's like it takes you forty five
minutes to get three things now, except I got ai.
Speaker 3: Our braids are going soft.
Speaker 2: Well. The thing is like, I'd rather now from now
on if I have to stop there, I want the
app and I want I want to a map. I
want no, no, I want a mask.
Speaker 3: Somebody put a pin in the Lasaya aisles.
Speaker 2: I'm going up, going big bing. I just want to
go in out. I want to know my route right,
I'm running patterns in there. Shh, fastest way. So then
I finally I go to the front desk and I go,
where are the biggest He goes, Oh, they're not right
there in the front. I go no, and my son's
telling me, he's.
Speaker 3: Going, fine, Dad, don't get it.
Speaker 2: I go no, that's how Rodam is saying. I'm asking
you where it is. You're telling me it's in the
front cases it is. I go, it's not. It's not here.
I'm looking at it, and I'm ready to start taking
videos like a loser to send it because I'm arguing
with a fifteen year old as to where something is
in the store. Finally, I stop, I go, this is
aass night. I go to the front and now I
gonna go all the way to that and I'm like,
and I'm texing you. I go, I'm going to be
right up against it. Yeah, no big deal. I felt
so bad.
Speaker 3: What do you feel bad for it?
Speaker 2: Because I don't like I don't like making people wait.
Speaker 4: I understand that because you understand that the best things
that we could offer each other are our time. Yes,
and you appreciate that.
Speaker 3: And I appreciate that you appreciate that.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to waste anybody's not.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: Danny's got.
Speaker 4: Those little l's at Wegmans. Every night they come out
and they move everything around.
Speaker 2: I got one of those l's too. I woke up
this morning. My cast iron pants had burgers made it
his degree they I mean, the counters are covered like,
I'm I finally go. I got a lot to do today,
but I need to set a time or twenty minutes
to just get this kitchen back.
Speaker 4: The kitchen is so sticky that a stink pug is
actually looking up at you for like a sympathy kill.
Like I can't like just kill me please, So they
got a side kill me.
Speaker 3: I surrender.
Speaker 2: So sticky yead it is, it's so unbelievably unbelievably weird.
There were somewhere I wanted to start out today because.
Speaker 4: Oh it wasn't the doctor's appointment.
Speaker 2: No, and then the wagman's thing. No. But I didn't
ask him about the the oh the blood work, yeah,
I didn't ask him.
Speaker 4: Well, usually you have to fast.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's getting me blood work okay, and
they want to check some stuff.
Speaker 3: Oh, so you want to get some extra stuff I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, like the stuff we were talking about with doctor
Mark Hymen, oh yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yah yeah.
I didn't ask about that. I was going to And
then I'm like, you know what, and I've been.
Speaker 4: Doing my research on that. You ask ten different AIS questions,
you get like ten thousand different answers. Really yes, Okay,
So I'm trying to I haven't caught grock lion to
me yesterday.
Speaker 2: What do you mean lying to you?
Speaker 4: Well, I was trying to write a story about the
Olympics with the Times of Wayne County and I don't
know much about Olympic sports, so I'm trying to get
my research going and I'm trying to figure out what
stories make the most sense to talk about.
Speaker 3: And it's getting acts wrong, oh, actual facts wrong.
Speaker 4: And I'm like if I'm I mean, I'm not a
big Olympic guy, but I'm like, okay, that's I know
that's not true. I know that there are actual NHL
players competing in the Olympics this year. It's not the
college kids. All the college kids are performing again, Like, no,
they're not at all.
Speaker 2: I think I think played or he.
Speaker 4: Did he played in the last one, but but yeah
and then yeah so no, but yeah, that that I mean,
I'm getting more and more ads for different companies now
like get blokes, life Force his Uh, there's like five
other ones. So I'm trying to weigh all the options
by affordability versus because.
Speaker 2: Some of these are cheap up front, but then they
hit you on the back end. Yeah, and it looks
like Hymen's just yeah, it's one time, Yeah, one time,
and then they'll tell you I'll come back at a year. Yeah,
I'll get your oil changed. I rotated. All right. So
here's the story that I that that starts scary and
somehow it gets weirder. That's the only way I can
describe this. It starts scary and it gets weirder. Savannah Guthrie.
She is the host of The Today Show. Her mother
is eighty four years old. Her mother has gone missing.
I believe from one headline I saw. The last person
to see her was her brother in law.
Speaker 4: She lives actually in my brother in law's neighborhood in Arizona.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so Arizonia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, inside joke.
Speaker 4: I cannot hear the word Arizona without hearing Arizonia.
Speaker 2: Now it's every family's nightmare when an elderly person goes
missing and I don't know Savannahgustrie. They haven't they haven't
filed their will, right, But I don't know Savannah Guthrie's family.
I don't know the history. I don't know if the
woman was having troubles. There's nothing that says that. But
almost immediately strangers start sending letters to Savannah Guthrie, not prayers,
dan letters, not support letters, claiming insider knowledge and ransom demands.
Oh wow, yeah, yep. Slurs, political rants are in some
of these, even name dropping unrelated murderers like Luigi what's
his name? Yeah, they're all mentioned in there. They mentioned
the January sixth, like it's some kind of mad LIFs.
I mean, they're just throwing it out there. And it
made me think because I started to go when tragedy
goes public and we see like locally here and I
would love to know at a lower level, does this
also happen? Does somebody get bored and go I'm gonna
tell I don't know, now it's somebody famous. Savannah Guthrie
is well known. She's a network Yes Morning.
Speaker 4: Today's show that used to be the biggest morning show
in America, I don't know if it's still is.
Speaker 2: When I go, why do people feel like they need
to insert themselves into somebody's tragedy like this? And what
are they getting out of it? Well, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4: I thought about this, and you know how you could
go to YouTube and find a video for just about anything.
That means we have enough people on this planet who
care enough about whatever stupid subject you want to look
up to put a video off about it or to
put a Wikipedia entry at it. So for every person who, like,
I don't know anybody who's ever I think I've changed
one Wikipedia entry once and it was about the Indianapolis Colts,
just random. I look something, I'm like, oh, that's not true.
I gotta fix that. But I mean, for the most part,
I have no business like trying to fix a Wikipedia entry.
But there are people who do this, like as soon
as somebody's dead, bag, somebody's on Wikipedia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so and so died of this condition and blame right.
Speaker 4: So my point is is that if there's somebody to like,
do a YouTube video for anything or fix a Wikipedia entry,
there's got to be at least a thousand morons who
would send awful, awful letters to Savannah Guttie.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying. And it's not even so
much about Savannah Guthrie as just and I go, well,
just what is what is it about people that they
would do this? Because I would think that even at
the local level, there's probably some of this that goes on.
They just don't bring attention to it. With Savannah Guthrie,
somebody finds out about it. The show these letters, it's
like you're auditioning for a Netflix documentary they should never
fucking make because you're, you know, all these weird shit,
like what.
Speaker 4: Do they do, like criminal Minds or something like you
a CBS show You Got It and my wife would
watch and criminal letters.
Speaker 2: I just keep thinking, like why, you know, it's like
this dark psychology. I can't figure out exactly what it is.
And it's like you're You've got some responsibility in there,
and it's like I know you, I see you every morning,
I know you. You owe me something and it's a weird,
fucked up thing. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4: Rick Riley wrote an article a column in the back
of Sports Illustrated in the art because Rick was very
creative in writing stories. Because to write. He used to
write three back pages at Sports Illustrate every week. Sports
Illustrated would pick the one that they would put there
because everybody's like, oh, you only write one column a week.
He goes, no, I write three. They pick one, and
he goes, which kind of like really bothers me that
the other two sucks so bad that they didn't make
the paper or the magazine. Well, he once wrote an
article about Derek Jeter's fan mail. He went to interview
Derek Jeter to not to talk about Jeter, to talk
about what's a guy like Derek Jeter? What kind of
fan mail does he Jerrek Jeter would get a bag
of fan mail, like a full bag of fan mail
per day, and Riley asked him, can I go through
your bag of fan mail today? It goes absolutely. They
were asking him for money, They were sending him pictures.
They were saying, hey, look, you know you make X
amount of dollars a year. If you gave me like
a thousand dollars, that's point zero zero zero one percent
of your income. Could just sign this card for my
sick mom. And every day it was another bag of
mail with the same stuff. Because the next day he
stuck around and there was another bag of mail for
Derek Jeter.
Speaker 3: This was every single day.
Speaker 2: That's insane. But like there's people out there wonder this
stuff if it's come back a little bit, because they
did say in this article letters. So I'm assuming snail now,
but don't forget there are other ways to get to people. Now, Yes,
with these kind of threats and things. And I don't
know if the illusion of knowing the person, the illusion
of knowing Derek Jeter, gives you permission.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean not permission but entitled
bit well right, like I know you, like I remember,
I gotta calm down a little. I remember being a
Bills intern and also a worker a training camp, so
I would watch the fans interact with the players, and
for the first time in my life, I actually felt
bad for the athletes and the coaches because these fans
act like entitled, spoiled brats. I pay your salary. I
wait out here in the rain to watch you play
in practice. My son has a disease. You need to
sign this. And I had the privilege of escorting Marv
Levy around training camp one day and cause he goes.
Speaker 3: Sir, excuse me, do you know where mister birch Told's office?
Speaker 4: That was my bosscotpers TOI, a longtime PR guy for
the bills, and I said, actually.
Speaker 3: I'm his interm. I could bring you there myself.
Speaker 4: And Scott goes, hey, damn, would you mind walking Coach
around the camp today and make sure he gets I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, marvelieve me, I'll walk him around for sure.
Speaker 4: So we started talking. We start seeing these people looking
for autographs. Yeah, and he goes, I never understood that
I once refuse an autograph from Babe Ruth. I said, wait,
wait what?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, thirty two World Series.
Speaker 4: I'm in Chicago. I met a Cubs gabe and all
these kids are at the dugout waiting for the Babe
the side autographs. And he looks at me. He goes, hey, kid,
you want an autograph? And I looked at it, but
five years old said why so I refuse Babe Ruth?
So therefore, why would I want anybody's autograph? Why would
anybody want my autograph? But the point is people just
feel like I think it's like a bragging point. Well,
they feel like I got to hang out with so
and so they do.
Speaker 2: And there is that connection. But this is weird. You're
sending someone who's in pain, right, some false lead or
nasty note when it has nothing to do with that.
And I go, I don't know if it's attention. Any
attention is the reward for these people? I know she
read it now, I read it in like the New
York Post or wherever, and it's like the fear becomes leverage, Like,
I know what happened. Here's the ransom we wanted in bitcoin.
You know what I'm saying. YEA, so well, I know,
but but some people don't want money. They just want
the acknowledgment in some strange way. And I don't know
these they're not helping.
Speaker 4: Think about John Hinckley Junior. He shot President Reagan to
get the attention of Jody Foster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it.
Speaker 4: Well, and so now think about that's the tip of
the iceberg. Think about the iceberg. I think all the
people who didn't go through all that stuff but still
like wanted to get her at this is. They'll multiply
that by every celebrity.
Speaker 2: That's it's a scary thing. It makes you realize how
ugly celebrity is. But I wouldn't be surprised, and I'd
love to find out and I'll get I have to.
I think I'm supposed to do a podcast with an
officer tomorrow and I need to move. But I would
ask him, like, when these missing persons things go up,
do you get a lot of false leads? Because I
think they get a lot of false leads on everything.
And sometimes they're well intended, and sometimes I think it's
just some nut who's like just looking for anything. Because
the information that you're getting, you're emotional dumping on someone
who doesn't have does an emotional bandwidth to fucking handle
your shit.
Speaker 4: They just get off on it, man, they just get off.
It's like it's like the greatest case not the greatest,
but the worst case of schadenfreud.
Speaker 2: Well it is because you get you get power by
control right a little bit right, all of a sudden,
you know, I can scare you. There's control.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then there's things like validation someone important is reading when
I wrote someone who's got a little bit of clout
in the world cloud that I'll never have. You know,
your pain proves I matter, and so you kind of
got there's what would you call that like power by proxy?
I guess in some way it's it's like it's it's.
Speaker 4: Just a sickness. Yes, yes, it's criminal minds type stuff.
Remember when remember when Oj they couldn't find Oj before
the the what do you call it? The White Bronco Chase,
And they said the cops got so many false leads,
including oh yeah, he's on Rodeo Drive meeting with Dion
Warwick to talk about his future.
Speaker 3: That was like a legitimate lead. It wasn't true, but people.
Speaker 2: Were calling up with Warwick. I thought I thought for
a while she was endorsing one of those network Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's but that's why.
Speaker 4: But that was a legitimate It wasn't a legitimate lead,
but that was like a lead that somebody made up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that part was legit. Well, look you and and
here's the thing is you get identity. You're the guy
that did that. Think of like you. But even like
Captain Jenks who used to fuck with people on the
radio for Howard Stern and he would try to prank
the Wiz show in town on it was like it
was identity, you're Captain Jenks, You're a mastermind.
Speaker 4: Was that the guy who called up Al Michaels during
the Chasers OJ and he looks scared.
Speaker 2: But do you see what I'm saying. It's identity. It's
the same type of thing like there, it's it's almost well,
it's sort of funny.
Speaker 4: But okay, we got a guy who's part of this podcast. Yeah,
Mark the Soldier. Yeah, how did he get his name?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For fighting for we'z it's Howard. Yeah that's true. Okay, yeah,
yeah that's me.
Speaker 4: But Mark, You and I would run into people in
radio who somehow made a name for themselves as callers.
They weren't callers to our show. No, we knew all
our guys. Yeah, all right, they were just helpful and friendly.
I'm talking about people who called other shows. Yeah, hey,
I'm the guy from.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you about one going way back, same thing.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: There used to be a guy they called weather Watch
or Mike on the Brother Weeze Morning Circus. So I'm
the promotion direct weekend fill in and Mike would call
up and he would always let he would ask, we's
what kind of see you? Because we used to say
see you they were pumper sticker thought, and what kind
of sea you do you want? And he goes, you
want to underwater? See it. He would like put water
or coffee in his mouth and gargle, right, and this
would be his thing. And Tommy was kind of new
to the show, and after a couple of months time
he goes, you gotta fucking fire this guy. You gotta
you gotta do it. So we goes, I can't do it.
I can't do that, but he goes, I'll do it.
So that guy was so crushed because it was identity.
But this, to me is is a little different. It's dark,
it's somebody's tragedy.
Speaker 4: And who's gonna find out except for this, I guess
if they find out.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the collision of hope and dread. You
hope someone sees something you dread the fucking you know
what I mean, And I just can't find it.
Speaker 4: And now the actual leads become like a lottery time
a legitimate lead.
Speaker 2: If if if this was your loved one, would you
read everything that came in just to protect yourself, you
know what I'm saying, Or you would hold first.
Speaker 4: I think I would become leading stuff just because I'd
never experienced this before. It wouldn't know any better, And thought, okay,
maybe this is a clue, and then after three or
four then be like, Okay, someone screwing with me. But
I can never be too sure, and I'm hopeful that
the next letter that I read is going to have
a legitimate lead.
Speaker 3: So all it does is really just break you and
break you.
Speaker 4: Yes, and you keep going because you just want to
find a real answer.
Speaker 3: That's that's awful, right.
Speaker 2: That's what's really true when someone you love is missing. Right,
every lie cost real emotional currency, just does and you
can't And and that's where I go, it's fucked up.
I don't That was the thing that jumped out to me.
Is not who it was or what was happening is
I'm like, this probably happens way more often than we know.
I wouldn't be surprised. On a local level, some guy
goes missing, and somebody sitting somewhere lonely decides iiding some
attention today, I'm gonna do something. Yeah, And it just
feels and you go, what is that? It's so fucked up?
And I don't evil Well, social media and mass access
to everybody in some way kind of makes things frictionless, right,
I know you a little bit better. I get to
see you a little bit more. You're a brand in
my world, and there's no gatekeepers, there's no editors there,
it's just direct access. And that was the thing I
used to say to young football players. I'm like, hire
somebody to handle your social media because people can be
really fucking mean. And we've seen it, right, Kimmel does
the mean tweets and we hear the celebrities repeat tweets
about themselves and it and it's funny. But the other
thing is fear travels faster than facts.
Speaker 4: Yes, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's that's another thing that I go, God damn,
because to me, I don't know, if it's the worst
moment of your life, right, and let's say it was
your mom, your mom my, mom my mom is close
to eighty yourself, uh you know, and it went public,
I don't know, like who would show up and why
to help you out? Right? Yeah? You know, yeah, I
mean it's.
Speaker 4: Trust the authorities.
Speaker 2: The worst moment of your life went public, who do
you think would show up and want.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 2: I know. I know.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, I've I've had situations in my life where
I know who's going to show up, and I know
who mf me at the time, and so no, I'm serious,
like real situation.
Speaker 2: Making and there's a lot of electronics around. I had
a mouthful of water. Why do you got to do
that to me?
Speaker 6: Do what?
Speaker 2: Because the way you say these things is like I
just I'm going to burst out laughing because it's going
to be somebody that.
Speaker 3: Well no, no, no, it's not.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 3: It's not a situation that like it was a public situation.
But you kind of learn who's real and who isn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, some people will surprise you in
a good way.
Speaker 2: Yes, right right, And.
Speaker 3: Some people that you think are your pals, Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, they're just along for the ride.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, you know you start to see that. Yeah,
all right, we'll take a moment. Our friend Peter's gonna
join us. I would just say, this isn't about information
to me, it's more about power control. Yeah. I was
gonna say, at tension laundering in a way that I
can kind of get into the head of somebody famous,
I got in their head, you know, and you could
almost see some somebody bragging about this. But to me,
that's a fucking mental illness. I don't know what one
but it's fine.
Speaker 4: After nine to eleven they were sending antracks to reporters.
Speaker 2: It's so dumb. It's just so.
Speaker 4: It wasn't even add track, so it was just powder.
Speaker 5: God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we will take a moment. We got
to talk some coaching stuff. We're gonna talk some coaching
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Speaker 4: Something's gotta hold on me, lay, I don't know myself and.
Speaker 2: Feels like the water hog holes and little and the
Devil's knocking and my dole out of my mind. I
bought tickets too, Just a little tip for anybody. I'm
an idiot, and I'm gonna say this. I don't I've
never really had to buy conscious tickets for most of
my life. Don't do no, Okay, So buddy Mine hits
me up and I went. I got our our friend
Kevin's birthday, and I went, and I was just scrambling
for an idea, and I thought, oh, I know he
likes spin doctors and Blues Traveler wherever Jim Blat. I
don't remember he's coming up, but blue Traveler. I love
loose Traveler. So I go to the site of the
venue they're going to be at, and I buy the
tickets from the site. Don't do that.
Speaker 4: Don't okay.
Speaker 2: So I go, well, I wonder who else is coming
this summer, and I see Teddy Swims. This guy right
here MISOLOGI o'h my god, damn, I'd like to see
Teddy Swims. So I'm looking at different seats and stuff,
and I'm like, I don't know if I want to
pull the trigger on in beginning of June. I'll wait.
And then a buddy of mine hits me up and says, hey, man,
just bought tickets to Teddy Swims. You should get a pair.
And I said, you know what, good idea. And then
he writes back and he says one hundred and twenty
dollars for a pair, And I'm like, what the fuck
on a site that were selling wand for ninety nine
a ticket. So I hadn't pulled the trigger yet, and
I go, where is this? Where is this now? I
don't think ticketmaster is going to have the lowest price.
I just doesn't doesn't come into my head. Oh no,
oh no, they did, Oh wow, they did. They were
sixty four dollars. I paid seventy two through vivid seats
or seventy five, yeah, seventy three. I don't even fucking
know but my only point was, like I would rather
have sat. I like the lawn. I know it sounds weird,
but I like to walk around. I like to talk.
I don't need to be squished in a chair sitting
next to some buddy who's gonna sing and dance in
front of me. I love your taddy, you know. I mean,
I just don't. I just don't need that shit. So
that's why I as I I. But I love this
style of music right here, and I'm really looking forward
to the show.
Speaker 4: He's very smooth, very soul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, come on, babe, it's a panty dropper, I'll
tell you, especially if you can sing it. I can't,
so it's not at I can't hit those guys, all right, Danny.
I want to talk about the Buffalo Bills, but just
because it's me, it's going to be a little different.
And I have a question because before anybody starts yelling,
her huffing and puffing are getting all worked up. And
I don't mean you, I mean any listener in all.
Because there's a lot of passion about the Buffalo Bills
where we are, and people get very very connected. I
just want to say, this is not what I'm about
from my point of view, it's not about playbooks and headsets.
What I'm thinking is, why is it every new coaching
staff in the NFL, no matter what the team is,
it's either salvation or end times? Am I am? I
kind of off here. It's either salvation like finally they
got it right, or.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's called sports save old bills. Always they've
skipped the end times, They've already like moved on right.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, whether it's it's salvation or end times,
I'm gonna use those words because you're my friend, Christian
did and I just I'm going and either way, both
camps are absolutely convinced that they are right. They are
right before anything has happened. Yess yes, okay, all right,
so we'll talk about the new staff, and I'd love
to hear you, know you and Peter.
Speaker 4: It's a great exercise on how people will There's an
old Springsteen sung at the Hidden the vy hard day
people find some reason to believe. Yeah, And I put
this on Instagram and I'm like, look, no matter what happens,
some of you people will talk yourselves into it. Well,
of course, because that's what you do.
Speaker 2: Right, but I mean what the arguments that they argue,
Danny like the argue. It's more of about I don't
know parenting.
Speaker 4: But at least you're right, nobody knows because it doesn't. Ultimately,
it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 2: But we don't know what works until it doesn't. Yeah,
it's kind of the point.
Speaker 4: Football is a very inexact science, right, if you can
call it right?
Speaker 2: Look at I'll say this. News systems usually equal what uncertainty?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What is the one thing that human beings can't stand?
Speaker 4: Uncertainty?
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 4: When people say they're excited, I think they are really curious. Okay,
some people may be excited. I go, don't mistake your
excitement for curiosity.
Speaker 2: Okay, Peter, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 5: No, good man, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm well? I uh, well that was my little intro
there I wanted to see. I like it, all right,
I like it?
Speaker 5: Okay, good question.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just a question goes along with the Uh.
Speaker 6: There's an old adage in Wall Street if you're a
stock player, Yeah, buy the rumor, sell the news.
Speaker 2: Sure, buy the rumor, sell the news.
Speaker 6: You got it, sell it when the news comes out, right,
And it's like you're fickle. If you're an investor, it's
long term, but lets short term people react that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not it's not necessarily a bad way
to go because what he's saying to you is there's
a rumor that this is gonna pop. You get it,
it pops, Now it hits the news that it pops.
Get the fuck out, well you can, because it's gonna
drop potentially.
Speaker 6: And in terms of the salvation, and it's all to
me football wise, I'm just gonna stick with football.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's it's the production, it's the optics.
Speaker 6: Sure, Look how many how many opinions changed after that
whole press conference in a different place than they ever
had before.
Speaker 5: What he what Joe Brady said, the new head coach.
Speaker 6: And I remember texting Danny during the whole press are okay,
this is all great, good for him, sounds great, you know,
but these are all words.
Speaker 2: Well okay, So to that, to that point, because I
think you're right, I would say that fans aren't looking
so much for innovation as much as they're looking for reassurance, right,
reassurance that this is going to be better. And and
like I said the last time, when when it's somebody
like we give no grace. If it's someone like Harbaugh,
we Goy, he's one of the best. He'll get it
figured out. Even if he does in the first year,
they'll get it. But but this I feel like it's
like fucking right now, dude, you got to do it yesterday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No one really knows. We're not going to know
until the next seven months. I'm not gonna I am
not looking forward to the next seven day months of
unpacking everything and unpacking his career and the the the
talking heads and the experts and the hobbyists are going
to put him on a pedestal or they're gonna tear
him down, and everybody's gonna have an opinion.
Speaker 5: And we're not going to know until September. Then come October,
then November, and now let's see.
Speaker 6: You know, the rubber has hit the road, right, all
the all the talking points are over and it's it's
the production, it's the results.
Speaker 5: Let me got to be results driven.
Speaker 4: Think about early November for just a second. Sure, who
is the best team in the a f C at
that point in the a f C. You could make
an argument that it was the Indianapolis Colts Oh yeah, Yeah,
that's how much things change.
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones went down and that was it.
Speaker 4: That was it. They brought in Philip Rivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know right.
Speaker 4: I mean, like, but if Dangel Jones stays healthy, they
may be a playoff team.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: But like things change in the NFL incredibly quickly.
Speaker 2: Tell me what you think, Dan and Peter about the
people that Joe Brady has surrounded himself with in terms
of I think offensive line coaches, quarterback coach, offensive coordinator,
the defensive coordinator. I think a lot of people were
pleased with that pick. I don't I don't know. Again,
until the rubber meets the road, we don't really know
any of it. But thoughts on all that.
Speaker 4: Good, Pete, I mean Dan, So go ahead, Pete, No.
Speaker 5: Go ahead? Oh you said that, go ahead?
Speaker 6: Uh, you know again, we were a lot of people
are looking at where these guys are from, what tree
they're from?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 5: Now? The one thing I like about like about the
defensive coordinator, here's.
Speaker 6: A lot of disguising blitzes and scheming and stemming, and
that I like.
Speaker 5: I like to hear that. The problem is do they
have the players to fit that right? And not right?
Speaker 6: Now, not right now, so they have to make some moves.
It all sounds good, Bill, but you know, you have
to have the players on the field. They're going to
execute these types of things and the things they want
to do.
Speaker 2: I want to say, I know who who.
Speaker 6: Eric Word and Joe Brady had a kind of a
laughable moment yesterday when they talked about how the population is.
It was almost it was it was somewhat condescending in
a little bit of a way.
Speaker 5: Maybe may have been funny, but how the fan base
hates screams. You know, well, I get it, and I mean, you.
Speaker 6: Know, you run, you run one play to sometimes see
how a defense reacts and come back to the different play.
Speaker 5: I get that.
Speaker 6: But it's all about pleasing the fan base right now
that it is about results on the field.
Speaker 5: That's what the off season is for. And now you know.
Speaker 6: To me, it also everything sounds great, it sounds great,
It sounds great.
Speaker 5: He's from this tree, He's going to bring this scheme,
He's gonna do that. Okay, Well, we've got to have
the players. Gotta have players to do that. You have
a lot of them, but.
Speaker 6: You're gonna have to hit them on the draft and
unless someone restructures their contract, you're not going to have
a great free agency pool to choose from.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to say this though about especially Peter,
and I guess we could throw Dan in there too,
but I'm not sure what I'm about to say. I
think a lot of people react to this as though
they've watched the All twenty two for more than ten minutes.
And the only person I know who has watched the
All twenty two for more than ten minutes is Peter.
And I don't know if you do or not, but
you're certainly on top of it. And if you haven't,
Peter sent you the cliff notes. So you got it.
You know what I mean. You got it and you
understand it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't watch you All twenty two because I'm not
educated enough to figure out what's going on. And I
think and nobody, even Peter will tell you this. Peter
will be the first to tell you this. Unless you
know the play that's cold, you cannot accurately assess an
All twenty two play.
Speaker 3: You can't do it. You have to know the play called.
Speaker 4: I remember watching Brian Baldinger have a different opinion about
a play that happened between the Colts and the Lions
last year's a Thursday night game, and Emmanuel Occo and
Daniel Alofsky had another opinion on it, and it's like
both things could be true. The only way we'll find
out is if we know what the play was called
on both sides of the ball too. Yeah right, you know,
so I don't get into that. I have seen a
lot of people excited about Jim Leonard, the defensive coordinator,
I'm saying, and I guess, I go sure, I'm curious
about it more than excitement. And the reason is because
next time he was a defensive coordinator and he did
have success was at Wisconsin in college. He's never been
a coordinator at the NFL level. Well, we've seen coordinators
at the college level come to the NFL and flame out.
I'm not saying Leonard's going to happen. I like the
idea of an attack style defense. Yeah, don't get me wrong,
but two things went proximity to greatness in this case.
Vans Joseph's got a heck of a defense in Denver.
That doesn't make you great, you know, it doesn't automatically
rub off on you. And second, we've never seen him
coordinate an NFL defense before. Nathaniel Hacket coordinated an offense
in Syracuse and comes to the Bills and crap the bed.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he.
Speaker 4: Craft the bet everywhere he's going. So even as a
head coach at Denver one, Yeah, yeah, everybody's like, yeah,
every's got so got so excited about this kind.
Speaker 3: Of like for what you know.
Speaker 4: And then on the flip side, your offensive coordinator is
cond be more of a teacher. He never called plays
in seventeen years. That's kind of a tell. He's with
one coach, Sean Payton, for seventeen years and he never
called plays. But he could be a teacher. It's like,
we'll spin ourselves into like convincing ourselves that that's great ideas.
Speaker 3: Maybe they will, maybe they won't. We don't, Like Peter said,
we don't know. We'll find out September.
Speaker 4: Trust the process gonna be It's seven months of just chatter.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Trust the process is like a fact guy going, hey,
this diet is sustainable. I'm gonna be okay.
Speaker 4: The only thing we do know is that the offensive
coordinator is still the guy calling plays. The guy calling
plays is still gonna be the guy calling place on
the offensive side of the ball. That much we do know. Okay,
So if you didn't like what you saw last year,
here comes some more of it, regardless of what he
tells you.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry, Peter, go ahead. There was a little
kickback on you, so I turned you down a second there.
Speaker 6: Oh hey, no problem, go ahead, you got You have
to figure that the motivation of a head coach to
hire an offensive coordinator but the head coach is still
going to make the play call, is that during the
week you have to have that offensive coordinator, the title
offensive coordinator have the same exact philosophy as you, right,
same exact So during the week, when you are concentrating
on your head coaching responsibilities, you have an awesome offensive
coordinator in practice in the film room, in the coaches
meetings that has the same exact philosophy as you. They
have to be on the same page. When they're not,
it's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. Yeah, you
hope that that's there, all right?
Speaker 5: You know? And I want to harken back two points
one of the all twenty two.
Speaker 6: Uh, it's it's it's entertainment. For a lot of people. Yeah,
you know. You also you know if you look for
different things, you look for tendencies.
Speaker 5: Like when I watched that Denver game, I knew Allen
was hurt in.
Speaker 6: The beginning of the game, and no one talked about it.
It was clear he was injured. Clear he was injured
in the first series. Uh, And you don't really recognize
it on TV, but when you have the inside angle
on the tape and the overhead angle on the tape
and you slow it down.
Speaker 5: Clear. And then I wanted to mention one thing about which.
Speaker 6: Is a staggering statistic, and I think it would you
know a lot of folks that they're still upset that
mcdermot's gone. But there's a stat that came out this
week that nobody talked about. And for the past five years,
he had eleven teams in the NFL who played more
than five games in the playoffs, eleven of them, Buffalo
being one of them.
Speaker 5: In the regular.
Speaker 6: Season, Buffalo is at the top of many categories yards
given up, rushing, yards past defense, et cetera. Regular season wins,
regular season games in the playoffs for each of those
five seasons, Buffalo is tenth out of eleven in several categories,
which said McDermott did he was stubborn, he didn't know
how to game plan in a single elimination game. Yes,
and there's your play your proverbial playoff. Yeah, this was
the right decision the time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's whether allowing thirty points a game in a
playoff game like in playoff exits right, because they're not
playing defense and they got to, like, you know, outscore everybody.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm thinking as you guys are talking,
right and here, you guys, he studies and understands the
all twenty two and even makes intelligent statements of you
can't really assess it unless you know the play. But
I'm thinking of my aunt's husband. I like this guy, Frank,
but nothing. I have never seen Frank as confident as
when he has a remote and a bad season. He's
the fucking expert on everything, you know what I mean?
There's nobody better, Hey, god, all the best? What the fu?
Yeah that I mean that's as you're talking, I'm picturing you.
He always has sleeveless shirts on. He's walking around, he's
bitching about that bud, and it's always when it's a
bad he's the most confident guy when they're shit in
the bed. Absolutely, I got that remote. Fuck you, I
could have done it better. Yeah right, And I'm not
saying that that's you two.
Speaker 6: Is there an age where curmudgeonly is is mistaken for passion?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure I'm over fifty.
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm a curmudgeon. I was told that
a couple of weeks ago. You were about the bills,
but has passion?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess fifty is the tipping point?
Speaker 5: Is that the tipping point?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 4: I think, and I just sift through a lot of
the bs.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you guys have been around it a
lot and you understand that he played it. You've studied
it since you you know, are on the planet.
Speaker 4: I look, we look for the signal, not the noise. Yeah,
most fans.
Speaker 2: But it is about I mean, you said it, and
I'm poking fun at it, but it's entertainment and it's
it's something that people like to do. And you know,
either way, it's either like I said, it's either the
salvation or or it's it's the uh the worst thing ever,
the death Knoll. And each camp thinks they're right.
Speaker 4: I'll say there's there's one thing that Peter may agree
with me, he may not. I don't know. But there's
one thing that has to happen at one Bill Strive.
But it has to happen right now. The general manager's
got to shut up. He's got to stop talking. He
has talked.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 4: It's like he's gone on this campaign to prove. You
want to talk about a guy who wants to prove
how right he is.
Speaker 3: He's been going on a meeting.
Speaker 4: He talked to Tyler Done, whom we've had on this show.
Tyler's excellent because and he's gone. He talked to Jay Skirsky.
He's telling people f the outside noise. Who's he talking about.
He's talking about radio, He's talking about fans. He's talking
about guys like work.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna work on this.
Speaker 4: So he's.
Speaker 2: Give a piece of your mind. I do.
Speaker 3: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: But all serious.
Speaker 3: It's like if you're a confident GM.
Speaker 4: But Tom Coughlin did not care what you thought, did
not cultivate radio people or TV people or newspeople to
defend in the media. He did not care. Bill Belichick
did not care. Bill Parcells did not care. Mike Shanahan
did not care. And here you got Brandon Bean, who's
always playing this inferiority complex. I was overlooked in Carolina.
I came up as an intern, and I saw a
lot of those same qualities in Brandon Bean. I'm sorry
in Joe Brady that I saw in myself coming up
getting passed over for jobs and.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: It's like he's on this tour to build a monument
to himself.
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the most overlooked story from the.
Speaker 4: Week was he actually seriously considered to give the job
to Philip Rivers. If that doesn't tell you how unserious
of an organization they have, I don't know what will
Peter you comment.
Speaker 2: On that.
Speaker 5: He is the most incredibly insecure executives in all professional sports,
really incredibly and incredibly insecure.
Speaker 2: Wow, man, Yes, yes, So also the noise, because I
figure people are going to talk shit about you. You
just gotta you know.
Speaker 6: But it's they're creating a production, even even with Brady
Brady and on the laptop in his office on the
McAfee show.
Speaker 5: And then you got you got, you got uh.
Speaker 6: Being kind of doing the lean and behind the camera,
behind you know, behind Brady and then it's it's like
they're creating this.
Speaker 5: Everything was so tight, but now I'm fixed. I've fixed
the tightness, got the tightness out of there. It's all
fun here. Now it's creating this. It's it's a production. Man.
It's just I don't again, I don't like the off
season garbage. I'm sitting here watching the super Bowl highlights.
Speaker 6: I hate the way the super Bowl has become this
pomping circumstance. I just want to play the game. I'm
not into any of the pregame garbage every channel. I
don't know how many experts there are and hobbyists and
it's is a joke. Uh So in any event, I
it's he is insecure and Danny's right.
Speaker 5: I mean, the f this is as is if he's
a tough guy. And you know, I just.
Speaker 4: When you say you don't care about what people think
you're and you're letting the world know you don't care
what people think, you care what everybody thinks. Yeah, like
he threatened PFF.
Speaker 6: Who listens to gr and you know the whole thing
with the call to into WGR last year, it.
Speaker 5: Was bothered by it. A radio show bothered.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that is interesting is that when you're
the general manager, you are also looking at the business
side of things. You're not just looking at the football side,
but the whole picture, right, the whole picture. So I
don't understand why you wouldn't see this as added value.
No matter what the opinion is. They're talking about your
product because they care. They care enough to take time
out of their day to call up a radio show
and you know what I mean, bitch or not and
to me that that's the thing, and you know that
that's part of it. But at the end of the day,
this is what I'm bringing up is like more about
human uncertainty and how we handle it than it is
necessarily about football and and the Buffalo Bills. Because we
want a world that that guarantees, you.
Speaker 4: Know, certainty. Yeah, we want to know the future. We
want to assure it. That's why we keep coming back.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 2: We overanalyze, we convince ourselves, we don't spend time. We've
cracked the code, babe.
Speaker 3: But we don't spend this much time on the things
that really matter.
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. And next year where there's another
coaching tweak and I'll do it all over again. And
that's just kind of the fun and.
Speaker 5: And and the uh, the game of golf.
Speaker 6: Bill, I don't know if you guys play golf, but
terribly I'm terrible, So I'm not a golfer.
Speaker 5: I play golf difference. And it's the one shot that
keeps you coming back to the next round.
Speaker 2: Exactly. You hit that one thing. It's terribly beautiful. Look
at that. You're like, God, I gotta do it again,
and you don't.
Speaker 4: It's the one time figured out?
Speaker 2: Where are you Peter with that?
Speaker 5: Where are you rally?
Speaker 2: Lucky?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 2: No, I don't rally. It's fine. You got a water
stain on the ceiling behind you? Just you should bitch
about that.
Speaker 5: It's a uh, it's it's you know, I'm budgeted.
Speaker 2: No, I get it. Hey, buddy, that doesn't mean that
that's just just because you're budgeted. Doesn't mean you're gonna
have a water stay. Budget places are fine.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, guy, see that. I am going to complain.
Speaker 2: No, No, what are they gonna do? Do you know
who I am? It doesn't matter. Look the way, if
I if I travel by myself, I would I don't know,
I would you know? Stay? I I did by accident.
But I stay. I'll stay at a cheap place, no
pro right if I if.
Speaker 5: I go with somebody I don't know, I guess I am.
Maybe I'm a little too spoiled. But at this stage, Bill,
I need to have a good bad man. I can't.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: I like a good bed. I mean, if I could
get a place that has like a good bed and
maybe somewhere there's a quiet sauna and a nice wine bar,
I could get into no st I mean, this is
what I'm saying, Like, that's what I prefer. But like
if it's just me and I and it's like a
quick thing in and out, I'll stay at anything. It
doesn't matter because I'm not going to be spending there
a whole lot. I'm just looking to sleep, you know.
That's that's it.
Speaker 6: Sleep right, Yeah, But now would you do you prefer
or need the mini bar or just a good bar downstairs.
Speaker 2: I rather a good bar downstairs. I was never a
mini bar guy. I like the social aspect. I like
to go there. I like the people watch. I like
to like, you know, see if I just throw out
like a just a random somewhat off color line who
picks up on it, who doesn't who bites. Yeah, that's
all just just just having fun. I'm just just feeling
it out, that's all. I just want to know what
it's talk about a super Bowl. I mean, this isn't
the sexiest super Bowl. But do you have a team
you'd prefer?
Speaker 5: It seems so dull.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: You know there's a lot going on with the Patriots
and and with May and his shoulder.
Speaker 5: You know, who knows how serious how serious that is. Yeah,
I don't know. I'm gonna give the advantage here to
New England. Really, I'm going to advantage to New England
by by three.
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be under But I think Rabel
and the experience in the game, I think it'll just
be another game to these guys. It's that's tough to
say because Dray May is twenty three years old and
you can't not be caught up in it.
Speaker 5: But I think that his experience in the Super Bowl
will will rub off on his players, and I think
they're gonna be well prepared.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. For for me, Like I go,
somebody asked me today who do you like, and I
I mean Wegman's and then of the guy I haven't
seen in a long time. He goes, hey, how's it going.
Who do you like in the game? And I go,
I really don't. I said this is boring, And he's like,
I kind of don't want New England, but I got
a swear they'll pay me a lot of money if
they win.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, New England reminds me a lot of
like when Forrest Gump is like dry, he's got he's
on his boat. Yeah, everybody gets else gets wiped out,
so he ends up catching all the shrimp. Yeah, that's
what New England reminds me of.
Speaker 2: Well, that's okay, that's fair. It's a really good analogy.
Speaker 4: Is everybody else has gone shipwreck that they've played this year,
yet they keep coasting if you.
Speaker 2: Like sort of the underdog. And I have trouble actually
thinking if this guy is an underdog. The Sam Darnold
story is interesting, right, you're the third overall pick in
the same draft as Josh. But that's what bothers me
is that he's actually got to a super Bowl before Josh.
Allen did. Yeah, and was on a lot of shittier
teams and wasn't coached as well. But it's clearly the
talent if he wins. I mean, there was a whole
argument this morning on ESPN as to if he wins
the Super Bowl and he plays like he did in
the NFC Championship game, is he an elite quarterback in
the NFL? No, And they're saying, I think a lot
of guys are like, well, I mean, you know, look,
that was the same thing they talked about Eli Manning.
And they go, but Eli won two super Bowls and
when he needed to, he played better than that, you know,
the other team whatever, and they go, and I think
it was Greenberg said something like I remember that because
you can't spell elite without Eli and whatever. I mean,
he wasn't statistically the best quarterback at any season he played.
Speaker 4: No, he wasn't, but he won the He now, he
won two super Bowls, but he beat the best team
in the generation twice. Now on twice, like he had
that he's got that DNA that like you.
Speaker 3: Know that aust shucks DNA or all I'll go win
this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something.
Speaker 6: And that's why I think the Bills are They're in
a close stretch here where gosh, you don't want Josh
Allen to be the next d Amrino, No, most talent
in the world, saw one Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: I think it was his rookie year, dan or a.
Speaker 3: Second second season and ran into the Bills.
Speaker 6: Right, So, in all fairness, they were a great team.
They probably would have gone to a couple of Super
Bowls and the Bills weren't there in the early nineties. Yeah,
but man, you don't want a Josh All to become
the next Amrino.
Speaker 4: No, no, you don't it.
Speaker 2: All right, Peter, It's nice to see on there. And uh,
I'm sure as big news breaks with the Bills throughout
the off season, will bother you.
Speaker 5: Again, bother me, have me on looking forward to it.
I was seven months of frustration.
Speaker 4: Here comes thank you, Peter.
Speaker 2: By there he goes. Peter in Raleigh, North Carolina, is
saying at a hotel room with the water stand on
the ceiling, that's always nice. I don't know, there's something
about that that I just go, yeah, yeah, it's like,
come on, can't we get that? Just get made this up?
Your sad.
Speaker 4: He's a high ruler.
Speaker 2: No, I know, well he's got a big, big yes,
I understand that, all right, will take a moment. Our
friend Juice is there, he's got prop picks for the
big game, and how did he do in the Did
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Speaker 4: They got it right?
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Speaker 4: GUITAR i just did Michlc.
Speaker 2: Crady, yeah he, know.
Speaker 4: And he never like they never. Finished he didn't believe
they finished the, song so they released this as a
b side To jeremy and became one of the most
biople watch.
Speaker 2: SONGS i don't absolutely no idea what he.
Speaker 4: Says somebody actually took a bunch of names from. LinkedIn
they do, that, yeah and put this to the song
songs supposedly about coming back from.
Speaker 2: A war or.
Speaker 4: Something and he's. DEAD i don't.
Speaker 2: KNOW i know.
Speaker 4: Some Of Pearl jam's best, songs the most popular song
or songs that. Released don't ask.
Speaker 2: Because he probably, Knew like what is he? Saying he
was even, going what are? DRUNK i mumbled it to,
it but it's. MELODIC i loved. IT i have no
idea what he.
Speaker 4: SAYS i ALWAYS i don't know WHETHER i was the
boxer or the bag you'd appreciate, That, Yeah AM i
the one throwing the punches or AM i getting?
Speaker 3: Punched?
Speaker 2: Okay so, like, YEAH i would like. That but AND
i liked a lot of their stuff because it was
a little deeper in.
Speaker 3: Thought oh, yeah and but.
Speaker 2: This is always WHERE i used to listen to this and
go MAYBE i should try listening to like rock in another,
language BECAUSE i never would do it BECAUSE i, GO
i like hearing the. LYRICS i want to know what they're.
Saying BUT i have no. Idea you used to make
fun of Him Saturday alive over.
Speaker 4: That kind Of oh, yeah, Yeah Adam sandler used to
do it all the. Time That eddie actually made fun
of himself at one point On Letterman.
Speaker 2: Show, WELL i mean he's got a good sense of, him,
RIGHT i THINK i don't know that depends never had
the pleasure of.
Speaker 4: Us he's, uh HE'S i think he's one of rock's biggest.
Speaker 3: Posers oh my, God And i'm.
Speaker 4: A Pearl jam. Fan what this guy? Went CAN i
just give you a? Brief, sit give me a?
Speaker 2: Brief could you make a? Brief?
Speaker 4: Yes the guy went from like climbing the, rafters, yeah
all of a sudden not wanting to be, famous to
all of a, Sudden, okay we'll leave you. Alone, OKAY
i want to be famous. Again, actually let's do videos.
Again and at that point people give it, up except
for their diehard.
Speaker 2: Fans well hang, on now here's WHAT i always say to.
That and BECAUSE i always see things different than, you
And i'm just, ASKING i think that that you were
a guy In San diego working on a. Doc, right
this works? Out so you go up To seattle because
they the band was based, there but they were looking
for a lead singer and, say, okay so they hire.
Him he comes in and all of a, sudden you
skyrocket to fame and you're having a lot of. Fun
but then we talked about like The Savannah guthrie, thing
take anybody and put it in, there and it gets
a little, scary and now all was, like, MAN i
can't get. PEACE i don't want to be. Famous and
then when you say start making videos, AGAIN i wonder
if the record company came to them and, go you've
got to do this or we're Pulling. YEAH i mean
that's the only THING i could. Think, NOW i.
Speaker 3: Just say that they weren't just making.
Speaker 4: Videos they were like advertising on television, too which was
something That Pearl jam would never do. Before they were
like advertising their fifth album yield on like From. Target, Hey,
Target now that's something that they would Never.
Speaker 2: WELL i wonder if they didn't maybe the record.
Speaker 4: Maybe epic made. Them Epic records made him do, that
and eventually they started their own record label and.
Speaker 2: Whatnot but it's a co promote. Yeah, right So target
gets an ad for half the cost because the other
half is being picked.
Speaker 4: Up by Maybe Epic, Records arista.
Speaker 2: Or, Whatever Epic, records whatever it.
Speaker 4: Was, yeah BUT i mean, like but Like Howard stern
recently interviewed the. Band, yeah and every Time howard asked
about a song that could have been released as a,
record as a solo or as a single and was,
It eddie was the guy who stopped. It and the
band kind of looks down and starts shaking their, heads
like we've had these arguments, before you, Know Like eddie
kind of came in and then took control of the.
Band it was no Longer stone And jeff's. Band stone Got.
Jeff now It's ed's. Band Now ed gets more money
than everybody else for writing the. Songs oh, yeah Now
ed is now the front. Man Now ed is the vocal.
Piece If ed doesn't want to talk about something and
the band's not going to talk about they fired the
best drummer they ever, Had Dave, aberzizi because he gave
an interview To Modern Drummer man. Magazine Modern drummer is
not Like, Time it's it's it's a trade Mag, yeah
and he, goes, dude the magazine has already gone to.
Print So eddie doesn't fire. Him he Sends Stone gosser
to go do it Like eddie didn't have the balls
to do it.
Speaker 3: HIMSELF i, mean, yeah you.
Speaker 4: KNOW i mean there's and then all of a, sudden
now he's, singing take me out to the ball.
Speaker 3: Game At cubs games during The World. SERIES i, mean do.
Speaker 2: You want to be?
Speaker 3: FAMOUS i think you, Do, TREBEK i think you.
Speaker 2: Do all, right here comes The Super, Bowl, Dan are you? Ready?
Speaker 4: YEAH i guess.
Speaker 2: So, YEAH i, mean even when it's not, flashy there
could be some classic.
Speaker 4: Moments is maybe the first TIME i remember in a.
While i'm sure it's happened Where america is rooting for the. Favorite,
yeah like like like like all but the all but
the area Of New england is rooting for The seahawks
in this. Game, yeah nobody wants The patriots to win
this and they're the. Underdog and by the, way they're
a hell of a. Story they won eight games the
previous two. Seasons now to go to The Super.
Speaker 3: Bowl, no we could not let them win.
Speaker 2: Again no. Way we have to stop.
Speaker 3: This Sam, Donald you're our only.
Speaker 2: HOPE i think that the Super bowl still matters when
it is just a, game and this, one to me
is just a. Game i'm not very excited about. It
i've gotten invited to a couple, places AND i don't
know If i'm gonna. Go, YEAH i haven't Even i'm not.
KIDDING i don't know If i'm Gonna my wife has
anything or not.
Speaker 4: Even approached me, about, hey what are we doing for
the Super, bowl because she plans.
Speaker 2: Everything BUT i, mean it is about identity and legacy
and your Super bowl champion and oh, yeah you. Know
and we used to see the third world country would
get the loser's shirt that said they want it's always
the best. Part.
Speaker 4: YEAH i MEAN i heard a guy on the radio,
today well known guy In Western New, york saying like
there were three or four years WHERE i just didn't
even watch the Super. Bowl AND i do this for a,
living and there are people who feel that. Way you're, like, yeah,
whatever And i'm, like, NO i gotta. Watch i'm a football.
Speaker 2: FAN i THINK i would do that. Too and we
know a guy who's going to be. Watching who's your team?
Again oh The, giants The, gins The gints is our
Friend Juice.
Speaker 7: We'll be back in the Super bowl in the next few.
Years giants will be back in the Super. Bowl the
next few years.
Speaker 2: Could BE i, mean you got you, know. Hardball but,
again that's one of those things that we talked about
where it's, like, hey the greatest, guy you walk out,
water why are you? Saking what do you? Say?
Speaker 7: Juice you guys say you have no plans for Super
bowl and, Uh, bill you've been invited a couple of,
players let me invite you to one. More i'd like
to invite both you guys over my house for the Super.
Bowl it's just a, game but the Super bowl that
could be my top five days of the. YEAR i
absolutely love. IT i don't care who's playing in. IT
i fucking love the Super bowl every. Year love.
Speaker 3: It, okay that's.
Speaker 2: Interesting is very hanging out with The Juice? Mansion? Yeah
is this a is this a?
Speaker 4: Rematch, yeah it's a rematch of the uh The Russell
Wilson yeah?
Speaker 3: Interception, yeah ok yeah.
Speaker 2: Right twenty eight twenty, FOUR i was of a classic.
Speaker 4: Game Malcolm butler had the. Pick, yeah it was like
they're gonna hand it.
Speaker 2: Off THEY i was.
Speaker 4: Watching with a, dude who if The seahawks scored the
touchdown and hit the extra point would have won five
hundred dollars in, squares And russ throws that pick and he,
yells what the half and flips his freaking, nachos and
we're all, like all, Right so here's.
Speaker 2: What here's the, thing The. Supero it's not just another,
game you know what this. Is it's it is a
chapter in fan. Psychology somebody flipping their fucking nachos over
the fact that they didn't Give Beast mode the ball
to run and end something they had no control. Over
but they. Do, yeah we.
Speaker 7: Do squares are so much fun for The Super. Bowl
that's that's that's part of the reason WHY i love it.
Too it just anything can, happen you, know just having
squares lining, up you, know seeing what you need to
get your. Numbers that's just.
Speaker 5: Awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, LOOK i saw a guy today who told
Me i'm NOT i don't Want New england to do.
It he, GOES i gladly donate this, money but if they,
DO i wouldn't make. It AND i don't know what big.
WAS i don't.
Speaker 7: KNOW i got a square in uh whatevery. Year it's
at a. Firehouse it's one thousand dollars, square so there's
one hundred thousand dollars in the. Pot the final pays
twenty five thousand dollars and, uh my numbers are one and,
nine so twenty nine to twenty, one.
Speaker 4: Twenty, one nineteen.
Speaker 7: Nineteen so we'll see.
Speaker 2: It would that'll be nice'd be pretty?
Speaker 7: Sweet?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow mean that's almost that's too.
Speaker 2: Tempting now here's the thing that's SOMETHING i.
Speaker 4: Kind of might would. DO i might do.
Speaker 2: It, well here here's, yes you might would.
Speaker 4: DO i, mean, yeah that sounds so. STUPID i JUST
i caught.
Speaker 2: Myself so because you're you're flabbergasted by, This, YEAH i get,
IT i.
Speaker 7: Understand thousand what's that your? Money touching square pays two
thousand double your?
Speaker 2: Money, yes, yes but look when it comes to The Super,
BOWL i take more time picking by snacks THAN i do. Anything,
Right but to that, point To juice's, point Because i'm,
thinking LIKE i, go, oh one thousand, bucks you kind of,
go DO i want to throw that on a? Square
but there's so many THINGS i would just throw a
thousand dollars. At, YEAH i, know you know WHAT i mean. Orthodontia,
no well, yeah, yeah, yeah BUT i get, that But
i'm talking about something just as frivolous That i'm never
going to get it.
Speaker 3: Back, yeah this ab machine works my.
Speaker 2: Core, Well i'm thinking like you might, go you, know
a quick weekend, away a, spa some dinner In New. York,
YEAH i mean maybe.
Speaker 4: Before they go completely.
Speaker 2: Communists yeah, yeah MAYBE i don't, know and then you,
know OH i. WOULDN'T i don't want to do. That
but it's got to make watching the, game which we
have said not with the sexiest Super. BOWL i, mean
if you're, juice, yes you're, invested, right he's, invested both
as both are.
Speaker 7: Right twenty nineteen Super. BOWL i won six thousand dollars
on first. Quarter you know that's.
Speaker 8: Awesome yeah that was that was six Grand, yeah how
fucking cool that. Was it was just something fun and
it's something you're planned. For obviously not for. Everybody you got,
to you, know stay within your. Means i'm not saying
that go, crazy but you, know it's just something you plan.
For AND i you, know IF i win some money
throughout the, year you, know kind of throwing on the
square and you have some.
Speaker 7: Fun see what.
Speaker 3: Happens are you gonna have squares at the?
Speaker 7: Party, yeah, yeah we'll have.
Speaker 4: Squares, okay all, RIGHT i Think boo AND i might
be stopping.
Speaker 2: By it's a thousand dollars buying absolutely.
Speaker 3: Well not for his he's in another, one.
Speaker 2: You know What i'm, Saying but a thousand dollars buying.
Speaker 7: Everyone you're not going to be selling thousand dollars squares the.
Speaker 4: Day come?
Speaker 3: On can you still buy squares for this thousand dollar?
Thing not THAT i, Would i'm just, saying asking for a.
Speaker 7: Friend so that thing sells out In. September this board
sells out In. September honest to.
Speaker 2: God what freaking firehouse is? This you don't?
Speaker 7: HAVE i, mean, YEAH i, won't but, yeah this thing is,
uh you, know super. Popular and they're not the only.
Ones you could find big boards all over the.
Speaker 2: Place i've done two. FIFTY i must have no.
Speaker 4: Friends you're just realizing that you.
Speaker 2: Just got invited to a Super bowl. Party how do
you have no?
Speaker 3: Friends this is the first Invite i've had all.
Speaker 2: Yet, right, well it's not it's not like it's a
you know WHAT i. Mean if the bills were, there, right,
yeah if the.
Speaker 3: Bills were, There i'd be in solitude in my.
Speaker 2: House well, okay, okay all, right but, no, no you
wouldn't care about being invited to The Super bowl. Party
NOW i understand where your heads, at but there would
be a ton that you would get.
Speaker 7: Invited what are both your guys' Greatest Super bowl like
memories or one that you stands, out one that you you,
know like the most to.
Speaker 2: Remember i'll give you one for. Me it was The
Giants Buffalo bills BECAUSE i was living, downstate uh AND
i was at a party for my dad's friends had
a party AND i brought a girl to the party
with me and we were drinking Blue. Whales and then
when it went wide, right everybody went crazy because The
giants won The Super. Bowl and we went back to
The Merris college campus and people are hanging out the
windows and they're weaving, signs AND i was, like community
college boy is a little and over his, head but
he likes. It and then and THEN i came up
here and over the years and a lot of people will,
say who are die? Hard you can't leave your? Team you,
know it's like the. Mafia you're, in and you're. In
it's like the Rolling Stone. Life, Yeah Keith, richards you
ain't fucking. Leaving but they did Let Mick taylor.
Speaker 4: Leave, however he had a sponsorship.
Speaker 2: Extemption yeah, yeah probably poor. Guy they fucked him.
Speaker 7: Up my uncle was at that Super bowl In. Tampa.
Yeah who got his coat from?
Speaker 2: This look?
Speaker 4: That oh wow?
Speaker 2: Wow, YEAH i got just looking at.
Speaker 4: It i'll tell you What i'll IF i come to the,
Party i'll bring. YOU i have a ticket from that
Super bowl In. GLASS i bought a commemorative Super bowl
twenty five set for that because The bills were in.
It it was the first Super. Bowl they came with a,
patch a, poster a game. PROGRAM i still have, it
but it's got the game. Take it was the first
hologram ticket they ever Made, Bills SO i would love
to say.
Speaker 2: That was my.
Speaker 7: First give it to me and the.
Speaker 2: Curse, okay that's, uh, well that's that's pretty. Sweet YEAH i.
Did that was the Super bowl THAT i. Remember but
WHEN i came here and you started the you were
on a. Station they came over from THE am station
to the STATION i was, on AND i had a
lot to do with, Them and then he started meeting
the players and all that. STUFF i could not root
for the GUYS i sat down.
Speaker 3: With, yeah of COURSE i get.
Speaker 4: THAT i get.
Speaker 2: That so that's WHERE i.
Speaker 4: Came i've invested my two favorite Super bowl memories because The.
BILLS i, mean If norrod hits that, kick that would
have been.
Speaker 2: IT i.
Speaker 4: CAN'T i can't make that my Super bowl, memory even
though like it was very exciting. TIME i remember the
whole week leading up to. IT i remember crying for
a week, afterward all that. Stuff but my two favorite
Super bowl memories because The bills couldn't win one Super
bowl twenty three When montana drove the length of the
field to beat The, bengals because The bengals had beaten
The bills two weeks earlier in THE Afc Championship. Game
SO i want to revenge On boomer and The, bengals
And montana And rice got it done With John taylor
in the end zone even though they only had to.
Tie the. Game that was the eighty eight season Super
bowl was an eighty nine Or Super bowl twenty. Three
they tore up the, field the field was. Awful and
then the other, one And juice will appreciate this was
when The. Patriots i've never rooted harder for a team
that wasn't my own then The giants beating The. Patriots
It's Super bowl forty, two.
Speaker 7: Yes eighteen years ago. Yesterday that to me in my sports,
life that was the greatest day of my sports, life
my greatest sports. Memory that, day absolutely. Incredible that was so.
Speaker 2: Much that was just.
Speaker 7: Unbelievable, yeah because, everybody everybody was on The. Giants you,
know they wanted The, giants and you, know that was
just that was fucking. Awesome ever, ever forget. THAT i
watched that in my apartment In, Louisiana, Monroe, louisiana forty
seven oh One Sturlington, Road apartment fifty. THREE i had.
EVERYBODY i was living In louisiana going to grad, school
AND i had, everybody all my friends there and EVERY
i had everybody in jerseys and, sweatshirts and everybody was
on The giants and we were just going fucking ape.
Shit it was. Awesome going TO Lsu, No Louisiana.
Speaker 4: Monroe, okay we go to grad school for.
Speaker 2: Video.
Speaker 7: PRODUCTION i was a grad assistant of the video crew
for the football.
Speaker 3: Team, okay, Cool so.
Speaker 7: Little background OF u of, Me so, yeah it was,
cool but it.
Speaker 2: Was that was.
Speaker 7: Awesome that day was just unfucking. BELIEVABLE i didn't show
back up to the stadium for work Till thursday BECAUSE
i was TOO i was too Hungover monday And, TUESDAY
i stayed home all day and watched the parade on
THE nfl network AND i forgot WHAT i Did, wednesday
AND i finally Surfaced, thursday and everyone's, like, dude like
it was just just, awesome just, great great memories of.
Speaker 2: All, right what do we got, is, uh, well give
us your pick and then some prop.
Speaker 7: Bets well the pick. Goes i've been betting The Super
bowl since twenty. Ten that was the First Super BOWL i,
bet and it was The colts versus The saints over.
Ten and this was obviously. Before this is a little story.
Too this was this was before obviously you know draft
kings and you could. Bet so you actually had to
call up a. Bookie SO i called up a bookie at.
WORK i was working at the region of Market. Henrietta
so this bookie had like the entire regional, market and
you called him up and wanted about The Super, bowl
and them, buddies we all put in a bunch of
money and the guy, says, uh, YEAH i got the.
Game it was indeed minus, five and he, says but
if you want to bet, it you got to take The.
Saints he's, LIKE i got too Much indianapolis. MONEY i
got to offset. It so he's, like so if you
want to take, it you got to take The. Saints
so we were, like what the? Fuck like all, right,
well so we, said you, know if everyone's taking, it
let's go the other. Way so we took The saints plus.
Five they went out. Right you, know it was just just.
Awesome but that was the First Super bowl that THAT
i remember. Betting what did you?
Speaker 2: Do you remember what you want off that oh?
Speaker 7: Ship it was? Nothing, UH i don't, know maybe few
hundred dollars there. Was there was a few of us
in on, It, okay so, YEAH i think maybe uh
maybe one hundred bucks each or. Something you, KNOW i was.
YOUNG i wasn't uh you, know just get scraping. By
but you KNOW i had enough to had enough scratch
to put on a. Game but it was, cool like
he forced our. Hand he was local. Book he's trying to.
Offset you, know if, this if The colts would have,
won he would have gotten clopper so he's, like, YEAH
i got, it but you got to take the you,
know he's just trying to, offset you, know some. Money
AND i was, like all, right fuck. It so we
rooted for The stints all all game happy in the
last Sixteen Super. Bowl SO i am twelve and four
straight up betting. This i've always done very well in
The Super.
Speaker 6: Bowl.
Speaker 4: Wow, okay all, right so you got.
Speaker 7: So our picks will get some. Props but the picks
for the game is we're Going seattle minus four and
a half and we're taking the under minus forty five
and a. HALF i actually like the under more THAN
i like the. Spread seattle wins the, game So i'll
probably be Taking seattle money line as. Well they're gonna
win this game. REGARDLESS i don't love the four and a.
HALF i could just you, know see to be close
because it's going to be a super low scoring.
Speaker 2: Game oh you. Froze here's what.
Speaker 3: Sucks fandel won't let me do.
Speaker 7: Both so, yeah what's?
Speaker 3: That FanDuel won't let me do?
Speaker 7: Both, yeah, dude The Super bowl is so saturated with
vetting and and these lines are all skewed and they
get fucking clobbered all. Week so in terms of trying
to put together a whole fucking, parlay it's gonna be really,
tough but we can we can put one. Together uh you, know,
try but you can't Take seattle and Take seattle money
line plus the under to. Start can you do? That
you are you building one right?
Speaker 2: Now? Yeah it. Won't it. Won't it.
Speaker 4: Won't let me do. It, Really. No FanDuel is weird like,
That like you could bet certain guys scoring touchdowns but.
Speaker 7: They Know sunday is gonna be a freaking blood.
Speaker 2: Bat, yeah well maybe that could.
Speaker 7: Be so that's that's Where i'm Gonna that's What i'm gonna,
take you, know to. Start that's those are my, starters all.
RIGHT a couple other props if you're Looking Drake may
rushing over thirty seven and a, half BUT i think
now that's been met up to like forty and a.
HALF i Think Drake may is gonna rush quite a.
Bit he's gonna be run for his. Life they're, gonna,
Uh seattle's gonna send, pressure which is gonna send him.
Running SO i like. That Ramande stevenson under eleven and
a half for his longest rushing Yards seattle's defense is
really good up, front AND i don't see any you,
know they Give they don't give up any big, plays
especially to running. Backs SO i Think Stevens stevenson will
not get more than eleven and a half on a single,
Rush so we're gonna take. That what else we got
Like Hunter henry over four, catches, Okay AND i also
like mac collins over twenty seven. YARDS i think The
seattle is gonna focus a lot on digs and on and,
booty so you, Know henry's gonna you, Know henry, Is
henry And mack are gonna be able to to get
Some AND i also like mac mallins anytime touchdown and
that pays like four twenty. Five that's that's a that's
a nice. One that's a juicy. Payout he think mc
collinshow finds the end?
Speaker 2: Zone how about like a prop bet like mccollands shows
up to the stadium game day with shoes.
Speaker 7: On, yeah you, Know i've Never i've never gotten into
any of those gimmick.
Speaker 2: Like they do a lot of ton of gimmick, ones,
right tons of what's that they do a ton of gimmick. Games,
yeah there's.
Speaker 7: An you can even bet If seattle's gonna throw the
ball at the one yard line because that's what they
did against The patriots and lost in The Super. Bowl.
Uh DraftKings has got. That it's like they're they're they're trolling.
That the uh The patriots doing.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 7: So what else we? GOT i like The Marcus lawrence
to record a. Sack he's The seattle defensive. End as
much AS i used to hate him when he played For,
dallas BUT i don't mind him so much. Now BUT
i think he will Sack Drake. May. Uh they're gonna
pressure him a, lot and that pays like plus one,
fourteen okay anytime. TOUCHDOWN i also like A J barner
uh From. SEATTLE i think he's gonna score and that's
like plus two. FORTY i would even take him plus two,
touchdowns which is plus two. THOUSAND i just think you're gonna,
see you, know they're gonna cook up, something you, know
if you want, to you, know if you're looking for
some touchdown prop. Bets BUT i, don't, HONESTLY i don't
think there's gonna be a whole lot of touchdown scoring
in this. GAME i think it's really gonna be low scoring.
Speaker 2: And everybody's excited for bad bunny.
Speaker 7: Who, Man, yeah there's probably uh.
Speaker 2: Who said the old white guys bunny.
Speaker 7: Boy, yeah that's WHERE i go. There and, honestly and
if you're looking for like AN, MVP i would take
probably Uh SAM jsn to WIN mvp at like five point.
Fifty receivers don't win it, often BUT i think in this,
case you, Know darnold can't win it without throwing the,
ball and he's gonna have to throw the ball TO,
jsn which makes, him you, know, Valuable and Then i'm
hoping to you, Know, DARNOLD i still could think that
we could see a ghost game out of, Him so
you might see an interception or two which would take
away from HIS, mvp which would give it to JS,
n is What i'm. Thinking that's WHAT i thought. There
but he would be the first receiver to win THE
mvp since do you know who Since dan.
Speaker 4: The first receiver to win The Most Valuable player? Since oh,
gosh was It Dion Branch?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Oh oh was It Mario? Manningham No eli won both of?
Those he? Did he win both of. Those BECAUSE i
know you're A giants, fans why you might like ask.
That oh, gosh, Okay i'm trying to think.
Speaker 7: Here Julian. Edelman, oh that's.
Speaker 4: Right edelman did get that's right because he argument is
does he in The hall Of?
Speaker 7: Fame but remember that was the thirteen to three. Game
that Game sun that was probably one of the Worst
Super bowls ever there. Was that game was dog. Shit
But edelman had like ten catches and you, know over
one hundred yards and he just had those huge, plays
chunk plays and, uh you know they got it. Done thirteen.
Three that game was fucking.
Speaker 4: TERRIBLE i watched that game with. You if you, remember
you were at my uh you were at the uh
at your in law's, house AND i was there.
Speaker 3: Too oh that's.
Speaker 7: Right, YEAH i went to a party and THEN i
showed up at, HALFTIME i, believe.
Speaker 4: Yeah to take it to take your daughter home or
something like. THAT i don't know she around. THEN i
don't think she was around.
Speaker 7: Then, no oh that was twenty, nineteen she.
Speaker 8: Was.
Speaker 4: No, OKAY i do. REMEMBER i do remember you being.
Speaker 7: THERE i was still childless and fucking out of my.
Speaker 2: Mind, yeah look at, it living his, life that's, right.
Buddy all, Right, Well, juice it's been a fun, season.
Speaker 7: Dude, yes can we do something in the off season
like go to a Fucking Red wings game.
Speaker 2: Or something like ABSOLUT i don't want it.
Speaker 7: To go Till september until we fucking meet.
Speaker 2: Again, yeah, Yeah i'll do. That, yeah.
Speaker 7: Do something in the off season or maybe chat around
the draft time or. Something this is, awesome, MAN i
really had a lot of, fun, uh you, know talking
football with you. GUYS i love THE, NFL i always
have and.
Speaker 2: Uh you, know it's just, uh we'll do.
Speaker 7: It we'll do it, Again we'll do.
Speaker 3: It looking forward to. It it sounds.
Speaker 2: Good. Uh Juice, Fields Juice, fields, yep father Of Ford,
Fields Ford, fields thank. YOU i come up with.
Speaker 7: THAT i don't forget my Daughter.
Speaker 2: Nila, NO i wouldn't always kneel a way for his.
Speaker 4: Fields all, Right, Well.
Speaker 2: Juice we'll see how you do with the with the
props in the uh in the pick.
Speaker 7: And tell you what IF i hit, This IF i
hit this thousand dollars, Square, yeah we're going night on
the town on. Me i'll runt a fucking, limo all
right in anybody invite anybody ever had on the on the,
show will just go fucking a little.
Speaker 4: Crazy Doug phelps.
Speaker 2: Drives all, Right jee's, nice thank you. Buddy all, right
there he. GOES i have To, UH i Guess i'll
close with this other. Piece BUT i don't know If
i'm gonna get. Myself so somebody else is handling the videos,
now and they are making them for. ME i JUST
i don't have, time, Okay SO i have somebody else
doing that and THEY i also gave them access to
some social media, things so they get posted and stuff
and they do a nice. Job it's, fine a little,
different but you know, so uh there was one where
we talked about when Uh Mark hillman was, here and
we wound up talking about Uh weeze AND i said
that his show was, unduplicateable and she and that into
kind of a promo And wee's writes underneath. It holy shizn, it,
bro thanks for the love or, something. Right but What
i'm worried about was WHAT i was saying was like
Because mark was very upset and Apparently weez has had
an episode about what really happened that, day And jake
happened to be in the studio his son and he
filmed stuff and he did. It in my, opinion an unbelievable,
promo an unbelievable promo using footage from in the studio
that Day weez just losing his mind and yelling And
doreen and blah, blah so uh and apparently he told
the whole story as to what, happened And mark heard
it AND i, SAID i, go it's A i, said you,
Know i'm gonna say it a little, differently AND i
don't know if WE i did. That but WHAT i
said was that radio management today is very spread, Thin
like the guy in charge of one city is also
in charge of like six, others and they're not paying
attention to, stuff and it's not the same attention to.
Detail you just can't possibly be, right and they don't
and it's and they're losing, people and it's, smaller and
it's all this. Stuff and WHAT i said was that Brother,
weez while absolutely deserved to be, syndicated had a show
of one of the most unique radio, shows one of
the most fun SHOWS i had ever had the pleasure
of being a part of and helping to. Create but
he wasn't a business. Guy and that has always been
my argument with Like Howard. Stern Howard stern was a business. Guy,
well how do you know that he was rock and?
Roll he was at No he went to bed at
eight o'clock every. Night he was a business. Guy he
knew what he was. Doing and that's, Okay, weez wasn't?
He he was a, personality a genuine article. Personality every.
Story what's, Better, well it depends on what you. Want
and WHAT i said WAS i told this story about
HOW i, put, actually with the help of my then,
wife put together a syndication package for Brother weves and
he AND i go to morning show boot camp together
and we're meeting with his, agent who has since, passed
and his agent was also the agent For opi And,
anthony And opie And anthony were on the precipice of.
Syndication SO i show. THIS i forget the guy's. NAME
i show him the package and he says to, ME
i love. This he, goes CAN i steal some of
this to use for Owen A's AND i, go, yeah,
Sure so Then we's AND i go to a panel
where they have guys who are. Syndicated they're syndicated like
they're In atlanta and then they're. Syndicated it's to smaller
market it's outside Of, atlanta, Right, Okay so it's that.
Guy it's this Guy bubba and somebody that are all
over The, south and one of them got their pilot's
license so they could fly from wherever they. Were they
might have been In alabama and fly Into, louisiana do an,
appearance you, know be on the radio that, morning and
then fly home and sleep in their own. Bed so
this is what these guys are. Saying and the guy From,
ATLANTA i got this big, BUS i had it. Renovated
we go into a, city we take, over we'll do
a show there on A, friday we'll spend the, night
we'll have a big, thing and we come home like
on A sunday or. Whatever, right but every, weekend we're
out every. Weekend we're trying to touch people in the
different markets every week and we're trying to make it
as local as. Possible and wesleyans over and he, goes,
bruh that's too much work for the. Wiz and he
gets up and fucking left. It And i'm just sitting
there AND i, go, well, there go see the. Caation
my only point in that is he didn't want to
be part of the business. Side of. Things if someone, said,
wheeze we've got a BLACK suv that's going to be
in your driveway at seven o, five we have an
appearance In. Syracuse you to go already, whatever and we're
gonna be down. There we'll stop at whatever casino on
the way. HOME i think it would have. Worked it
was just that he had nobody that was running the
business side of things for. HIM i did WHEN i
was there somewhat but and tried to get him syndicated and,
stuff but it just didn't. Happen and then things went
the way they. Went but that was the, difference is
like he just he wasn't that. Guy so now we
get to the end of his career and there's talk
back and. Forth AND i think if you talk to the,
management they think they have an agreement with we'z And
we's hasn't really given his, Blessing but no one's, communicating
at least not. Effectively and what should have, happened what
should have been done and would have been a. Win
AND i Know i'm repeating myself from a previous, episode
is they absolutely should have had an entire year or
six months of send off to him with every legendary
person who's ever been on the, show part of the,
show whatever it, was fly them, in make a bit
deal about. It you could get it sponsored and not
have it cost you any. Money they could have raked
in a ton of, money and that is really on.
Them but it also is that there was nobody in
his camp that was forward thinking like. That there just
wasn't and that that's the unfortunate. Part and he wasn't
the guy that was going to do. It he was
the genuine article. Personality but but that was. It And i'm.
Afraid i'm afraid IF i say, that because he goes,
BRO i watched you on the, show is what he's
writing me and the, podcast AND i AND i, Go
i'm gonna say this. AGAIN i don't want to offend,
you but you weren't the business. Guy you absolutely were the, talent,
undeniable the, uniqueness like anybody's ever seen stories for, days
weirdest Life i've ever, watched, RIGHT i, MEAN i got
a weird, life but that's, weird AND i JUST i
don't know how we would take, It that's.
Speaker 4: ALL i think that was pretty. Complimentary, well, Yeah i'm
just telling you from from the thing Is i'm, Sorry
dan to catch you, up but you have to have the.
Speaker 2: Talent and some guys there were the Kid. Cratics they
had the, talent and you Had Howard. Stern no matter
what anybody, thinks the, talent, discipline business, savvy all, right
or align himself with the. THING i mean that that's
just that's just. It nor just the.
Speaker 4: Talent there THE ceo of the, corporation, right they were the.
Brand they did, everything stopped yet ran.
Speaker 2: THROUGH i mean when you Hear, howard he'd always, said you,
know people want to get FaceTime with the. Boss he
was talking about. Himself, yeah because he's the, boss all.
Right and then one last thing THAT i got from Alex,
are our former intern who now is involved in a
lot of television production and. Stuff we did a goodbye
song to. Her YEAH i think So, Okay, well she
sent it to me AND i haven't heard.
Speaker 4: It it's been a.
Speaker 2: While let's see if you can remember.
Speaker 9: This Dear, Danny tommy And. Bill it feels like just
YESTERDAY i first set foot in your.
Speaker 2: Studio oh she made, this, Yeah oh this is her
goodbye to.
Speaker 4: Us, yeah, yeah it's pretty. Funny she has a comment
About tommy it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Funny Good, okay all. RIGHT i couldn't, remember but she
said it to, me AND i, SAID i haven't seen,
it But i'm going.
Speaker 9: To just play new experiences and unique, perspectives completely unsuspecting
of just how much the next two years would shape
WHO i am. TODAY i had no idea WHEN i
first started how MUCH i would, grow how many FRIENDS
i would, make or how comfortable i'd become watching porn every?
Speaker 10: Week?
Speaker 2: Wait did we watch?
Speaker 6: Porn?
Speaker 4: Oh? Tommy tommy would just like.
Speaker 2: Would he put porn? ON i don't remember.
Speaker 4: That it wasn't, Intentionally, NO i. Forgot oh, wait didn't
we give porn?
Speaker 2: Away?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh she had to rate?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 4: Right was that what it? Was she was her or
her somebody had to rate the actual porn that we gave.
Speaker 2: Away, yeah BUT i thought that was one of the.
Strippers it may have.
Speaker 4: BEEN i don't, remember so Lo bra he.
Speaker 9: BELIEVE i realized THAT i am armed with the tools
and training to be successful in my new. Endeavor And
i'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for
everything and share a few things that you've taught. Me, Okay,
danny you showed me the technical ropes of producing this.
Show people don't realize how much gets.
Speaker 10: Done behind that board every.
Speaker 9: Morning AND i will miss seeing that red patch on
your neck light up when things get.
Speaker 1: Hectic.
Speaker 2: Daddy oh, god it was like a. Thermometer May, yah
you could Tell daddy was running. Hot run it, hot absolutely,
hot matter it was out his ass.
Speaker 9: Safe needed, Something, tommy you showed me just how difficult
doing nothing really. IS i was there for me WHENEVER
i needed a swift kick in the self. Esteem Bill from,
YOU i learned many, things that dedication is, important that
hard work leads to, success that your life would be
much harder Without, jenna and that IF i wanted to
become part of The Bill Moran, empire.
Speaker 2: HONESTLY i Think i've done pretty.
Speaker 10: Well nothing but absolute perfection would be. Tolerated Oh, GOD
i feel lucky to have been able to work with.
YOU i feel lucky to have met the super fans
of this.
Speaker 9: SHOW i will miss THE u, stream even the, creeping
AND i will make it a point to stop in
there and say. HELLO i will miss the everyday calls
from every Day mary Or it's a wisdom From, mike the.
Speaker 10: Dad An The adventures Of. Truth thank you, all for
everything very. MUCH i love Your queen of The West, Side.
Speaker 4: Alex she did a good job with.
Speaker 2: You that was. Funny, Yeah queen of The West.
Speaker 4: Side how hard tell, It? Tomy how hard doing nothing really?
Speaker 2: Is he's just, quick you? Know that Was that was another? Thing,
yeah he was he. Is, yeah very, uh very. True all,
right we will close out any final thoughts on, football
Super bowl coaches. Anything he felt like you didn't.
Speaker 4: Get to say good to hear From.
Speaker 2: Alex, okay it was good to hear From.
Speaker 4: Alex. Okay, Yeah, NO i Think i've said it all all.
RIGHT i Think i've said. IT i, mean there's it's
Like peter, said there's seven months.
Speaker 2: Of, This, yeah another seven fun sticks all right For,
peter who's got the water staying on his hotel room In,
Raleigh North. Carolina For, juice who's invited. Us, Yes danny
says he has no. FRIENDS i.
Speaker 3: DISAGREE i have, Friends, NO i, know they're just not.
HERE i MEAN i mean, HERE i.
Speaker 2: Mean like hey the second what? Wow. Damn, YES i
KNEW i had heard you someone you uh For DAN.
BURRELLO i have that really sharp Looking yankees At I'm Bill.
Moran i'll see you next, TIME Ms California baby