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Speaker 2: we're back, and I'm still with Oliver, who's still wiping
Speaker 2: his nose because because he's like now he's gone from polite,
Speaker 2: you know, with the napkin delight. I just use the
Speaker 2: back of your hand.
Speaker 3: Well, they's a rough day for me.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually I use them get allergies, but
Speaker 1: we're in that seasonal switch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely the time when I have a hard time
Speaker 2: sleeping because where I live is it warm? Is it cold?
Speaker 2: Is it warm? Is it cold? And it's like I
Speaker 2: suffer both in the fall and the spring with two
Speaker 2: drastic temperature changes. When I'm trying to sleep. It makes
Speaker 2: me a little crazy. So I get it. I don't
Speaker 2: get allergies, but I do get sleep allergy.
Speaker 3: Usually don't. It's weird. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, the other thing is my animals are swimming a
Speaker 1: lot now, and so they're tracking a lot more stuff
Speaker 1: to my house.
Speaker 3: Got it, Yeah, we our house is not the tidiest.
Speaker 2: I can't I can. Yeah, it's like, so the clothes
Speaker 2: would also be not the clothes that like like to
Speaker 2: gather hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we try hard to shed hair.
Speaker 2: Right when I when I'm an equestrian center, of course,
Speaker 2: I was around horses, all the horses, and it has
Speaker 2: a way of like wiggling into the clothes, and so
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't matter if you wash it or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's like it becomes a scene. So you wear all
Speaker 2: of the clothes that have that slick kind of outside
Speaker 2: so that it just slides off instead of the polar
Speaker 2: polar fleece pants I used to wear all the time
Speaker 2: to the barn.
Speaker 1: But what's funny, my wife likes polar fleece pants too,
Speaker 1: and so I'm constantly hitting her with one of those
Speaker 1: sticky rollers.
Speaker 2: Yes see, you know that's that's intimacy. You're like hey baby,
Speaker 2: You're like, hey baby.
Speaker 1: Comes roll you baby.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: But the way, this is the way that they do
Speaker 2: four play here is when he's a baby, I got
Speaker 2: the roller, come on over here.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: And by the way, for those of you that are listening,
Speaker 1: if you if you want to know which vacuum cleaners
Speaker 1: really work, yes, Dyson's come in my house and they
Speaker 1: literally crept the bed at this threshold.
Speaker 3: They're like, uh uh, I'd just rather die.
Speaker 1: We use the shark commercial version and it's not not amazing,
Speaker 1: but it has stood the test of of our you know,
Speaker 1: we we don't have dust bunnies.
Speaker 3: We have dust dragons.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, air balls like yeah, tribles hairball from Star Trek.
Speaker 3: Live with Tribles, Oh my god, you know. And I
Speaker 3: have bags. Here's the funny part.
Speaker 1: So when when we when the wolves shed, it's once
Speaker 1: a year, they blow their undercoat and we save that
Speaker 1: fur and bags because people buy it. They want to
Speaker 1: craft with it, so you can you can card it
Speaker 1: and spin it out and it makes the warmest, softest
Speaker 1: uh Like.
Speaker 2: For I want a wolf dust, Oh my godness.
Speaker 3: It takes a lot, it's all I mean.
Speaker 1: I have a hat that a friend knit for me
Speaker 1: from the animal behind me actually many years ago from
Speaker 1: her first shed.
Speaker 3: The only place I could wear it would be the
Speaker 3: high Arctic.
Speaker 1: You feel like your head is in a sauna within
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. It's ridiculous. I use what I use it
Speaker 1: for is in you know, the winter, when I want
Speaker 1: to have a water bladder that doesn't freeze. I like
Speaker 1: to keep like tea or something, and so I take
Speaker 1: ziploc bags and I stuff it with the shed wolf
Speaker 1: hair and I put the bladder between two bags filled
Speaker 1: it will keep my tea warm for hours.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is crazy cool. So you guys are learning
Speaker 2: some really interesting.
Speaker 1: Things, you know, for for more survival skills basically no, right,
Speaker 1: so you have more so I can subscribe for more.
Speaker 2: Kind of find a wolf that's she shed if you're
Speaker 2: ever lost, and find a shedding wolf and safe, that's.
Speaker 1: Right, and then figure out how you're gonna get And
Speaker 1: this one behind me she bites. You call her princess
Speaker 1: bitchy pants, all right, Princeville.
Speaker 2: Nice, okay, all right. So we wanted to roll into
Speaker 2: our last episode here with Oliver and talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: more of this kind of alpha male, these guys that
Speaker 2: are telling you out there in the world how to
Speaker 2: be and how a you know, a real high value man.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I go every time I say that, I
Speaker 2: just have to laugh. Only days of real high value woman.
Speaker 2: And the high value woman should never have any masculine
Speaker 2: polarity or energy. She should definitely be in her feminine
Speaker 2: and only and I get shit about this, Like all
Speaker 2: my life, I've gotten crap about this. I just want
Speaker 2: to say, and I actually, if I'm with a man
Speaker 2: who is competent and I find him sexy, I have
Speaker 2: the story of literally putting a napkin over my head
Speaker 2: at a restaurant because I'm blushing. So as bad ass
Speaker 2: as I am and competent as I am, if I'm
Speaker 2: in the space of a man, not an alpha guy
Speaker 2: who's like, I'll just compete with him, my I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: this is what we're doing. Let's compete. You think you're
Speaker 2: that I can tet. But if a man is confident
Speaker 2: and competent and secure in himself and he's sitting across
Speaker 2: a restaurant at me, and I'm attracted to him and
Speaker 2: all he did this one last guy, he looked me
Speaker 2: a little bit up and down, not in like a
Speaker 2: leering way, but just kind of looked at me and goes,
Speaker 2: you look fantastic, And I went bright red, started giggling, looke,
Speaker 2: took a freaking napkin and put it on my head. Okay,
Speaker 2: I was that undone by that just confident experience of him.
Speaker 2: And the waitress came and I held the menu up
Speaker 2: and I looked out from under my napkin and I ordered.
Speaker 2: He's in the meantime laughing over there. Who wouldn't laugh
Speaker 2: about this? I mean, I was experience. I'm an experienced woman.
Speaker 2: This is like ridiculous. The waitress tried to take the menu,
Speaker 2: but I didn't want to give it to her because
Speaker 2: it was my shield, and so finally she took it.
Speaker 2: He's laughing. I took the nap off my head, and
Speaker 2: he goes, that is most charming, endearing thing, and then
Speaker 2: I blush some more. So you know, just because a
Speaker 2: woman's badass and competent and all this stuff doesn't mean
Speaker 2: she's only one way, because I don't think any of
Speaker 2: us should stay static in one way. Resilience, adaptability, flexibility. Right.
Speaker 2: To say that we're always alpha, we're always in our
Speaker 2: mask and are always and our feminine is ridiculous. There
Speaker 2: is no strategy in that. So what do you have
Speaker 2: to say about that?
Speaker 1: And the wolves balder well, I mean, I think, look,
Speaker 1: I told you I have an amazing wolf story, so
Speaker 1: probably the most. In fact, there's a whole book about
Speaker 1: her called The Female Alpha Wolf by my friend Rick McIntyre,
Speaker 1: who arguably the best wolf storytale teller in the history
Speaker 1: of the world. He spent twenty six years never missing
Speaker 1: a day, watching the wolves and Yellowstone Wow quite and
Speaker 1: writing notes and showing people wolves and chronicling their histories.
Speaker 1: So if you want to read amazing wolf stories, Rick
Speaker 1: McIntyre as a whole bunch of books. But he has
Speaker 1: one about a female that we called the six Female.
Speaker 1: And the deal about the O six Female was she
Speaker 1: was this. She was a wolf's wolf. She could kill
Speaker 1: an elk by herself. She was fiercely independent. By the
Speaker 1: time she was like four years old. The biologists were like,
Speaker 1: she's never going to find a man good enough, like
Speaker 1: she reject, reject, reject, And they were really kind of
Speaker 1: desponded because she was such a perfect wolf that they
Speaker 1: really wanted to see her have pups. Then she found
Speaker 1: two younger men brother too, Yes, two younger men, and
Speaker 1: she seemed to like them because they deferred to her,
Speaker 1: and ultimately she was the foundational female of what they
Speaker 1: called the Lamar family group, the Lamar Pack, which became
Speaker 1: one of the most famous wolf packs in history. And
Speaker 1: these two, these two males were absolutely devoted to her
Speaker 1: for her her whole life Ultimately that was the end
Speaker 1: of her. Was that, as I mentioned, you can hunt
Speaker 1: the wolves on the outskirts of the park, on the
Speaker 1: boundary of the park, and one of the males the
Speaker 1: one that she seemed to favor, although they it was
Speaker 1: very tough to I mean, they were obviously different wolves,
Speaker 1: like the biologists could tell them apart. She probably had
Speaker 1: pups from both of them. We don't really know, or
Speaker 1: maybe they do now with DNA. But one of the
Speaker 1: wolves were shot outside the park and she went looking
Speaker 1: for him and was likewise shot. But yeah, she I mean,
Speaker 1: for years the biologists like, wow, she's just too much
Speaker 1: for any of the boys.
Speaker 2: Well that's and it's interesting that she took too, and
Speaker 2: it says this is of this. I'll tie this into
Speaker 2: Tantra for a moment. So in Tantra, a woman that
Speaker 2: is in mastery that would be like the badass, that
Speaker 2: badass off right there, will take what's called consorts, and
Speaker 2: those are men in total devotion to her that allow
Speaker 2: her to rise in her fullness. They support and devote
Speaker 2: She devotes to them as well. But either it's one
Speaker 2: or two or many help her rise to her greatness,
Speaker 2: and nobody is like saying, oh, she's too much, she
Speaker 2: shouldn't be doing that. She needs some man to come
Speaker 2: a trainer, and you know, show show how man is.
Speaker 2: And so I wonder if, uh, that's like a Wolfe's
Speaker 2: experience of gender fluid or the ability to weave both
Speaker 2: because she was also a mother.
Speaker 3: And outside of outside of my pay.
Speaker 2: Grade energetically, she's weaving masculine and feminine together.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, she was, you know, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about the alpha, like the singular alpha,
Speaker 1: there was no question who was running the show in
Speaker 1: that pack for the entire duration like she was. I mean,
Speaker 1: in some in some of these family groups, it appears
Speaker 1: that those responsibilities are shared in this In this case,
Speaker 1: she ran the show.
Speaker 3: She made all the.
Speaker 2: Decisions, right, so she was leaning into her whatever we'll
Speaker 2: call that masculine action or whatever. But yet still we
Speaker 2: did find good breeding compatibility. And then also you know
Speaker 2: this clearly was devoted enough to go find her one
Speaker 2: of her partners. Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very sad. I mean, it was when
Speaker 1: the call went out on the radio that she had
Speaker 1: been shot. I mean, people like me still can't talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: It was super traumatic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was very intense because she was just such a
Speaker 1: remind and then her daughter actually nine two six f
Speaker 1: ended up taking uh taking over that that territory in
Speaker 1: that pack, and ultimately she was also shot outside the park.
Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, hmm wow. Well that legacy that pack is.
Speaker 3: Still so yeah. That was the end of it.
Speaker 2: That was the end of it, all right.
Speaker 3: Every wolf story is a sad story, well the end.
Speaker 2: Because they die young and potentially at the.
Speaker 1: Hand they live short, beautiful lives and unless they get
Speaker 1: to be with me, in which case they steal my
Speaker 1: groceries till they're ancient.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, they're doing their own all cunt when you
Speaker 2: come through with your roast. Yeah, yeah, this is the
Speaker 2: roast hunt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And they're still naughty, this one. I just did a
Speaker 1: video this morning. She still there's this check book. My
Speaker 1: wife has all those business check books, and this wolf
Speaker 1: has wanted this business checkbook for years. My wife tends
Speaker 1: to leave it in vulnerable places and I try to
Speaker 1: tell her all the time. This morning, the wolf came
Speaker 1: in the house. She was like settled down on our
Speaker 1: autom and I had the door open. I went to
Speaker 1: do something.
Speaker 3: I came back. She was outside.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's okay. And then I realized she
Speaker 1: had finally won.
Speaker 3: She got her.
Speaker 1: She got it in pieces all over the habitat. My
Speaker 1: wife is a pretty good sport about it. Yeah, yesterday
Speaker 1: a wolf had a seatbelt out of the car.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well see, yeah, wolves are expensive.
Speaker 3: They are expensive. They are terrible pets for those of
Speaker 3: you that are like, I want a wolf.
Speaker 1: No, no, you want to malamute, because they're very wolfy
Speaker 1: without all the baggage.
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, So you you know, we've
Speaker 2: talked about you being you know, the man's man, you
Speaker 2: know if people call it that, the competence and stuff.
Speaker 2: And yet your wife she's a badass.
Speaker 1: Oh she's yeah, she's I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: I live with wolves. I crawl under houses to get
Speaker 1: bears out. The only thing I'm legitimately afraid of is
Speaker 1: HER's right.
Speaker 2: And so you light up. You guys can't see his face,
Speaker 2: but he's not saying oh she's fierce and looking like
Speaker 2: he's concerned about that. He's like literally looking like he's
Speaker 2: aroused by that.
Speaker 3: So I love it. I think it's so amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean and she's fiercely protective of like our team
Speaker 1: and our restaurant. I mean, we have a we have
Speaker 1: a sign above our register that says, please be nice
Speaker 1: to our people. If you can't do that, you'll be
Speaker 1: shown the door. And it's her who shows them the door.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen our whole town knows.
Speaker 3: Right. She's a little bit like the soup Nazi from Seinfeld.
Speaker 1: Right, She's like, no, super you get out and I
Speaker 1: and she's she's done that. Like she's got mad at
Speaker 1: customers that are rude and she'll throw them out in
Speaker 1: the middle of the meal. She's like, they're like, we haven't,
Speaker 1: I don't care, get out.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right? So she has great boundaries.
Speaker 3: This part of she really really does, and I think
Speaker 3: it's so important. And her.
Speaker 1: Our team is super loyal to us because they feel protected, right,
Speaker 1: she has their back.
Speaker 2: Right, and so that means she also has your back and.
Speaker 3: She has my back.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm really careful about the fights that I
Speaker 1: involve her in because sometimes I'm the one that's hold
Speaker 1: her back, you know, yea, like the last the last
Speaker 1: thing I wanted, you know, when when when she says
Speaker 1: fuck that guy, Yeah, then I'm like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna try to get you out.
Speaker 3: Of the building before you do the one that we're having.
Speaker 1: An issue with a building inspector up here. And oh
Speaker 1: my god, I feel bad for the guy. She's she's
Speaker 1: got to hate on for him, that's gonna end badly
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: Hate on. I like that. So why as you know,
Speaker 2: this man who is you know, like you said, you know,
Speaker 2: being mauled by wolves, crawling under a house with a
Speaker 2: mama bear with her babies to ask them to leave.
Speaker 2: And you're not afraid of any of that, But your wife,
Speaker 2: why why is it a turn on? Why is it exciting?
Speaker 2: Why do you enjoy because you're not a quote unquote
Speaker 2: sub guy. Do you enjoy a fierce woman who's badass
Speaker 2: like this?
Speaker 1: You know? I think because I'm I have a lot
Speaker 1: of self confidence. I don't feel diminished by strong women.
Speaker 1: And I've always listened. I've always had I mean, years
Speaker 1: before I met my wife, I used I used to
Speaker 1: if you guys.
Speaker 3: Are fans of American gladiators, I like.
Speaker 1: That so so so I to train with Zapp.
Speaker 3: And at one point I lived with Ice. Those people
Speaker 3: there on that well, come up.
Speaker 1: They're they're Amazon's by every I mean, they're you know,
Speaker 1: both of them could out bench press me. I think
Speaker 1: my squat was better than theirs, and my deadlift, but
Speaker 1: not by much. These are fierce women, yeah, And so
Speaker 1: I just I love extremes in in every I guess,
Speaker 1: in every aspect of of my life, I kind of
Speaker 1: push extremes. And I appreciate people that are capable of
Speaker 1: pushing extremes too.
Speaker 3: I find them the most interesting.
Speaker 1: And in spite of my wife not you know, not
Speaker 1: being like a bodybuild or anything like that, intellectually and
Speaker 1: in terms of her personality, she's very extreme. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's a wolf mom, like I mean, and to live
Speaker 1: with me, you know, I'm I'm tough, right. You cannot
Speaker 1: be a needy person. You have to be very self actualized.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: If you're needy, it's just you know that doesn't work
Speaker 1: for me, right, I mean, so much of my emotional
Speaker 1: energy isn't caring for these difficult animals, you know.
Speaker 3: And she's you.
Speaker 1: Know, fully strong on her own, except for when she
Speaker 1: goes outside in her pajamas and gets mauled and me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I told you not to wear your pajamas
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes fierce women could be stubborn.
Speaker 3: She superstell.
Speaker 2: My god. Yeah, I have that thing where I've decided
Speaker 2: that it's now summer. I put away my floor heating mat,
Speaker 2: and then I spend the next whatever cursing, cursing myself
Speaker 2: for not the weather. Not No, I could just pull
Speaker 2: it back out, but no. Instead, I'm just like, but
Speaker 2: it's appost obey summer.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna before, I'm gonna meet myself for one second,
Speaker 1: I gotta blow my nose.
Speaker 2: So basically, what I'm hearing is that if inteed you're
Speaker 2: intimidated by a strong woman, this isn't really uh a
Speaker 2: sign of your masculinity. It's like, if you need a
Speaker 2: woman to be so demure and sow watered down and
Speaker 2: so incapable and so like expecting you to be able
Speaker 2: to handle everything because she can't handle anything, it makes
Speaker 2: me really wonder about your confidence and your competence and
Speaker 2: anything else. I have found. Yeah, I have found that
Speaker 2: most men that need that just really lack their own experience.
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't really get that, Like those kind
Speaker 1: of women are uninteresting to me. I mean, if I
Speaker 1: was a single guy, you know, I would not find
Speaker 1: that interesting at all. I don't want to be anybody's dad.
Speaker 1: I've got I've got, you know, wolves to be the dad.
Speaker 2: Well there, I think you just said the thing that
Speaker 2: always like I keep saying gets to me. It's like,
Speaker 2: if you like my daughter, you know, I raised her
Speaker 2: to be competent. She was my house manager at ten
Speaker 2: years old. She could runt our household right, And I
Speaker 2: remember thinking to myself, what am I doing her a disservice?
Speaker 2: I remember my dad telling me because I wanted to
Speaker 2: be just like my dad, I didn't want to be
Speaker 2: just like my mom. My mom was a badass anyway,
Speaker 2: but I wanted to be my dad seemed really powerful,
Speaker 2: and I wanted to have that power, right, that command
Speaker 2: of power and presence and things. So I used to
Speaker 2: like I remember as a kid, i'd try to walk
Speaker 2: like him, and I did, like, you know, it was
Speaker 2: fun when I was a daddy's girl. So yes, indeed,
Speaker 2: I did love my dad too, more than my mom
Speaker 2: and all that. And then when I found out he
Speaker 2: was just a flawed human that was kind of cowardly,
Speaker 2: that switched. But I looked at my daughter. I remember
Speaker 2: my dad saying to me, I'm really sorry, you're probably
Speaker 2: going to be lonely. I was like, what the hell
Speaker 2: is he talking about? And he was foreshadowing this, like
Speaker 2: how do you find a man that stands above you?
Speaker 2: When really, why would I win a man standing a
Speaker 2: bar me? Why wouldn't I want a man that I'm
Speaker 2: side by side? We're going to war together. You got
Speaker 2: my back, you know we've got each other. I bring
Speaker 2: my skills, you bring your skills. But you will never
Speaker 2: not you know, you will never doubt that I would
Speaker 2: take a freaking bullet or take somebody out right. I mean, like,
Speaker 2: why wouldn't you want a partner like that versus a
Speaker 2: partner like now you've got to worry about saving them?
Speaker 2: So that brings me back to my daughter.
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about saving others from my
Speaker 1: wife and yeah, well right, so I.
Speaker 2: Told I taught my daughter to be competent and all that,
Speaker 2: and then I remember when she was really young, I said, honey,
Speaker 2: if anybody ever grabs you, we're out in the world
Speaker 2: and somebody grabs you, right, or grabs me, I said,
Speaker 2: grabs me and tells you they're going to hurt me.
Speaker 2: I want you to run like health. I do not
Speaker 2: want you to look back, because if I have to
Speaker 2: take care of you, I can't take care of myself right.
Speaker 2: And so the idea that you'd have to look out
Speaker 2: for somebody in such a way, why would a man
Speaker 2: just need to feel that needed because somebody couldn't actually
Speaker 2: function without him making a decision. What is appealing about that? You? You
Speaker 2: can't tell me because it's not appealing to you.
Speaker 3: No, it's really not.
Speaker 2: So maybe these guys need to like write into me.
Speaker 2: So here here it is, guys, drop me an email.
Speaker 2: You know it is. It's tiny at tiny diamond dot com.
Speaker 2: If you can't spell my name by now, I don't
Speaker 2: know what to tell you. It's got a J T
Speaker 2: A n JA diamond. You'll find me on thirty pages
Speaker 2: of Google. You're gonna find me if you can spell
Speaker 2: my name right. Write to me. Tell me what is
Speaker 2: it that is so exciting about a woman who like
Speaker 2: has to be like asking you everything all the time.
Speaker 2: Is not competent? Why is that sexy? I really want
Speaker 2: to know? You know, I don't want my guy like
Speaker 2: that either.
Speaker 1: You know, as you were saying it, I was sort
Speaker 1: of you know, you know how it is that there
Speaker 1: are certain things that are like evolutionary burdens, like having
Speaker 1: an elk having a rat act that's so big that
Speaker 1: it becomes a liability, for peacocks having feathers that are
Speaker 1: so visible that it's a liability, and that and that
Speaker 1: evolutionarily that apparently the attractiveness is if the animal can
Speaker 1: survive with this liability, then they must be especially robust,
Speaker 1: right until it becomes sort of this weird and it
Speaker 1: makes me wonder if perhaps in our distant evolutionary past
Speaker 1: or maybe and I was actually thinking more of feudal
Speaker 1: times where these lords and these emperors had so much
Speaker 1: wealth and power that they could protect powerless women. And
Speaker 1: that was what made that potentially appealing. But that doesn't
Speaker 1: serve us in you know, in society today. Not.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, if you want an.
Speaker 1: Awesome girlfriend, be awesome and be open minded to other
Speaker 1: awesome people that might outshine you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in different ways, right, I mean collaborative. You we
Speaker 2: talked about Alex Ramosi for a little bit in between
Speaker 2: on a break, so I like HERMOSI if you guys
Speaker 2: don't know who he is, just look him up. He's
Speaker 2: he's in business. He is seriously bad ass, going doing
Speaker 2: great things. He always wears a tank top and shorts,
Speaker 2: and he's busting all the red rules of how you
Speaker 2: should look and be and act. But he always uplifts his.
Speaker 1: Woman, gives her tons of credit. And I mean, look, look,
Speaker 1: this guy weighs like two sixty. He's ripped like you know,
Speaker 1: he's no joke and yeah, he breaks. He's you know,
Speaker 1: he goes to business conferences wearing shorts and T shirts.
Speaker 2: He always looks like he's at the gym.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he always, Yeah, he looks like he lives in
Speaker 1: the gym. He says he doesn't live in the gym.
Speaker 1: He used to run gyms.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of respect for that guy if you
Speaker 1: want to learn about and I mean, he's you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of epitomizes what people think of as alpha.
Speaker 1: But then you listen to him and he talks about,
Speaker 1: you know, how he leads and how he thinks about
Speaker 1: his partner, and so he exudes legit kind of alpha energy.
Speaker 1: I would say, a way that you know, other really
Speaker 1: good inspiring leaders exude alpha energy.
Speaker 2: Right, So don't we don't look at him as it's
Speaker 2: not his physical ability that makes him an attractive leader.
Speaker 2: It's literally the way he uplifts not only his clients,
Speaker 2: his woman and other people around him feel uplifted by him,
Speaker 2: and that's what makes him an attractive leader. So I
Speaker 2: think that guys, if you're intimidated by a strong woman,
Speaker 2: if you're intimded dated by intelligence, if you're intimidated by
Speaker 2: any of these things. I do remember I was on
Speaker 2: a date with this guy, and it was in the fall,
Speaker 2: So I had long sleeves on, right, and we whenever
Speaker 2: it was ready that we were going to go have sex.
Speaker 2: And back then I was competitive powerlifting, right, And so
Speaker 2: you know, we're in the bedroom whatever. I'm taking off
Speaker 2: my clothes and all of a sudden he turns around
Speaker 2: and he's like, fucking hell. And I'm like and I'm like,
Speaker 2: what now, this is not the expectation. You know, I
Speaker 2: had a twenty three in waste, I've got great boobs,
Speaker 2: my butt was rocking, but my biceps. I'm actually genetically
Speaker 2: created in my genetics as an elite athlete muscle for muscle,
Speaker 2: and so it doesn't take much for me really, right,
Speaker 2: And so he's all freaked out. Now, No, he's not
Speaker 2: looking at my boobs. He's not like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: this one's he's looking at my biceps. He's like, damn,
Speaker 2: can I feel those not talking about my ass? But
Speaker 2: then he was messed up. They are bigger than his.
Speaker 2: He wasn't sure what to do with that, right, He
Speaker 2: was like all like well, and then he's all intimidated.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to take his clothes off, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: come on, this is ridiculous. So once again comparison, why
Speaker 2: are we doing this? Why aren't we like, Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I could inspire to that. Or if you're that smart,
Speaker 2: that's awesome, that's super sexy. Wow, if you're competent, you
Speaker 2: can shoot better than I am. Awesome, sauce, let's do that.
Speaker 2: That's confidence. That is confidence. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we were talking in one of the breaks
Speaker 1: about when I got a packed by one of the
Speaker 1: wolves I worked with and a hundred pounds literally one
Speaker 1: hundred pounds. Woman saved my life. And I will tell
Speaker 1: you guys straight up, on that day, if it had
Speaker 1: not been that specific person, I wouldn't be here and
Speaker 1: no badass dude would have done what she did. I
Speaker 1: just guarantee it. I was being attacked by a wolf
Speaker 1: I worked with because I made a mistake. We were
Speaker 1: way up in the mountains, it was very cold, it
Speaker 1: was getting dark.
Speaker 3: I screwed up. He attacked me.
Speaker 1: She was screaming, and she was a horse woman. She
Speaker 1: had gone to cal Poly on a rodeo scholarship, grew
Speaker 1: up on a ranch, like you know she was, but
Speaker 1: she was tiny. We used to joke that she was
Speaker 1: a six foot woman crammed in a five foot body, right,
Speaker 1: A huge, fiery personality, but she was very small. World
Speaker 1: class athlete. But they're like, really really small. And I
Speaker 1: mean this wolf weigh one hundred and thirty pounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: weighed by thirty forty pounds, And she's screaming.
Speaker 3: What do I do? What do I do?
Speaker 1: And I don't know where the hell this came from,
Speaker 1: because it's I don't I grab him by the nuts.
Speaker 1: She fucking did, and that's the And then he was
Speaker 1: on a line and she grabbed the line. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is just fearlessness. She reached into a wolf attacking
Speaker 1: another person, grabbed him by the nuts and he let
Speaker 1: go of me. And she grabbed the rope and tied
Speaker 1: it off to a tree before he could get to
Speaker 1: me again. And because she did that, he lunged for me.
Speaker 1: He got me in the bicep. If she had not
Speaker 1: had a hold of the rope, he would have got
Speaker 1: my throat. Right, So, badass women come and.
Speaker 2: Handy, they may just grab a wolf by the nuts
Speaker 2: and save your lip.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know any guy that would have reached
Speaker 1: in there and grabbed a wolf by they would have
Speaker 1: been running the other direction.
Speaker 3: Go fuck that guy.
Speaker 2: I'm out, dude, I'm so sorry. Well, the wolf is
Speaker 2: there before he gets bored with you.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: It's like the joke, you know, it's like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're you know, how do you save
Speaker 1: yourself if you're with your friend and a bear's chasing it,
Speaker 1: you outrun your friend exactly right?
Speaker 2: Well, and so you know, that's awesome that she did this,
Speaker 2: and it's awesome that you asked her to do that.
Speaker 2: But we're going to tell you viewers or your listeners,
Speaker 2: we're not subscribing that you ever do that if you
Speaker 2: see a wolf, would you like tell people they probably
Speaker 2: shouldn't do that at home.
Speaker 1: Well, the good news is that wolves are very unlikely
Speaker 1: to attack you. For any reason. What happened with me
Speaker 1: and this animal was completely justified because I was being
Speaker 1: a shitty leader. And that's I will talk about this
Speaker 1: at length and we will work on that together. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the most important realization was the reason I
Speaker 1: got attacked was because I was being a shitty leader.
Speaker 1: And wolves don't like shitty leaders.
Speaker 2: All right, Well there you go. Women don't like shitty
Speaker 2: leaders either. They just take you off by the throat too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, all right, Well, oliver'sa what do we leave?
Speaker 2: When do we leave this badass one? What do you
Speaker 2: what do you say to men that feel like to
Speaker 2: be in alpha? They need to, you know, have their
Speaker 2: little their little woman over here.
Speaker 1: I think nothing makes you look stronger than having a
Speaker 1: super strong woman at your side or even in front
Speaker 1: of you, you know. I mean when my wife shines,
Speaker 1: I just stand back and I'm like, yeah, I'm married
Speaker 1: to somebody awesome, right, Like.
Speaker 3: I just I love so much.
Speaker 1: I Mean, one of my favorite things is going into
Speaker 1: my kitchen in my restaurant and we're her restaurant. Like
Speaker 1: I literally I do the construction work, I get that
Speaker 1: shit done, and then I like get the hell out
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 3: And she's like, don't come to the kitchen.
Speaker 1: Just did it right, because everybody's a little scared of me,
Speaker 1: you know, being being fussy. But I love to just
Speaker 1: sit there and watch that thing hum and watch her
Speaker 1: run the show because she's so fucking good at it.
Speaker 1: It's just the most amazing And I just sit there
Speaker 1: and I'm just so proud of her and so happy
Speaker 1: that she's able to do that and that I could
Speaker 1: set it up so that she can. You know, I
Speaker 1: think being being an awesome partner and being sexy to
Speaker 1: women is positioning the people around you to do their
Speaker 1: best work.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Nothing makes you look better than when people around you succeed.
Speaker 2: I you know, apologies to your wife, but I was
Speaker 2: just thinking how hot you are saying that. So I
Speaker 2: want to just say that that definitely is a thing,
Speaker 2: you know, support in the way that makes your partner shine.
Speaker 2: It actually goes both ways. But absolutely, man, there is
Speaker 2: nothing I think, absolutely, if you are a man who
Speaker 2: has a strong woman and you are not scared of
Speaker 2: that and you uplift that, yeah, you are a badass.
Speaker 2: You look like a badass, and you know, nothing like
Speaker 2: being supported. When I feel supported, when I literally feel
Speaker 2: my man, not competing, not afraid, not feeling diminished because
Speaker 2: I'm good at something. But he literally goes, you're awesome
Speaker 2: at this. Let me be the support. That is so hot.
Speaker 2: There is like very few things hotter than that experience
Speaker 2: right there, And that builds loyalty, that builds trust, that
Speaker 2: builds like so much because who doesn't want to be
Speaker 2: supported to be their best? Because if you feel diminished
Speaker 2: by a woman who is strong and competent and can
Speaker 2: do things, I say, gentlemen, you got some shit to
Speaker 2: do to work on yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that says nothing about your partner and everything about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is That's there. It is landing the plane
Speaker 2: on the simplicity of it, because there is enough. There's
Speaker 2: no scarcity in the world. Somebody else shining does not
Speaker 2: make you shine less unless you're the one who decides
Speaker 2: it does. And you know, just don't do that, because yeah,
Speaker 2: absolutely so. I want to say here to all the women.
Speaker 2: I wrote a post about that too. I wrote a
Speaker 2: post about I'm called being called too masculine all the time,
Speaker 2: and yet there are plenty of men who are like,
Speaker 2: that's hella sexy. I want to step up with you
Speaker 2: because the empires we can build together are amazing, you know,
Speaker 2: the support I can support them, they can support me.
Speaker 2: Think about all of that you accomplish. Whether that's parenting
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter like it's an empire, but whether that's
Speaker 2: parent together like that, helping each other grow in business,
Speaker 2: whether that's just like what you do day to day life.
Speaker 2: You know, that's solidity while somebody is really needy, that's
Speaker 2: your child. Your child really needs you to help them.
Speaker 2: Hopefully you raise your children to be competent with badasses
Speaker 2: as well. My daughter in college is a force to
Speaker 2: be reckoned with, for sure, and I think that's awesome
Speaker 2: about her. And she's also suffering because yeah, men are
Speaker 2: like they get pulled in and then three weeks later
Speaker 2: they're running with their tail between their legs because there's
Speaker 2: like I can't I can't outshine you. I don't feel
Speaker 2: like you need me enough, And I'm like really, yeah,
Speaker 2: so thank you so much. All of any clothing words
Speaker 2: you want to say, tell us again where you know
Speaker 2: people can what's your favorite book? They should? What should
Speaker 2: they do? What should they do? But besides come hang
Speaker 2: out or come visit, do you have like can people.
Speaker 1: Come so our facility are is not open to the
Speaker 1: public except on kind of a special case basis, Like
Speaker 1: you want to come visit, you can come visit. But
Speaker 1: we are we are trying to So I have this
Speaker 1: huge project in mind. I'm working with my county. We
Speaker 1: want to buy a golf course and rewild it so
Speaker 1: we stop putting so much herbicide into the ground and
Speaker 1: waste so much water because up here water is scarce,
Speaker 1: even though we're on a lake, and open a world
Speaker 1: class wolf science and education center.
Speaker 3: So if you're interested in that or.
Speaker 1: Interested in my tiny nonprofit, it's Taho Wolfcenter dot o RG.
Speaker 1: I'm at Oliver the Wolf Guy on most social media,
Speaker 1: but principally YouTube and TikTok is where I do the
Speaker 1: most stuff.
Speaker 3: My book is The Wolf Lover's Guide.
Speaker 1: You're raising dogs, I like to say, my dogs love
Speaker 1: me more than your dogs love you.
Speaker 3: But I can help you fix it. Read my book. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, for those of you that are interested
Speaker 1: in learning what it really means to be quote an alpha,
Speaker 1: I do work with you know, limited number of individuals
Speaker 1: to help them understand what that really looks like and
Speaker 1: how to be more effective.
Speaker 3: In their lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So whether you're just a guy, just a guy,
Speaker 2: whether you're a leader, whether you're an executive, whether you're
Speaker 2: trying to lead teams or whatever you're doing, definitely get
Speaker 2: a hold of Oliver because I think if you've listened
Speaker 2: to this, you get an idea that we're probably listening
Speaker 2: to the wrong people, the wrong you know, men trying
Speaker 2: to train men to be men. Of those guys out
Speaker 2: there are really leading you down a bad path, and
Speaker 2: certainly it'll get you women that are completely dependent on you.
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe you think that's sexy, that's okay.
Speaker 2: I would tell you if you need a woman to
Speaker 2: be dependent on you, you should just be a dom.
Speaker 2: But learn how to do that well and get yourself
Speaker 2: a couple of subs much better. I think that's that's
Speaker 2: more like I think co coherent or in integrity. I
Speaker 2: think that's a better way to do that. Just claim
Speaker 2: it already if you just need somebody that's that submissive
Speaker 2: to you. But surrendering to your partner, submission and surrendering
Speaker 2: being two different things. Surrendering is standing in your power.
Speaker 2: Submission is letting somebody else handle it. And I think
Speaker 2: that if we learn to surrender, we still stay in
Speaker 2: our power. We both can help each other grow. That's
Speaker 2: that whole theme that's been behind today. Surrender into the
Speaker 2: things you don't know, either learn them or step aside
Speaker 2: and let somebody else handle it. Surrender in the fact
Speaker 2: what you're competent in and you're not competent in. Surrender
Speaker 2: into the fact that as we age, it's real, we're
Speaker 2: gonna all age. Bring that experience, bring that seasoning. And
Speaker 2: then surrender into the fact that if you are confident enough,
Speaker 2: you don't need somebody water down to make you look better.
Speaker 2: You rise everybody around you up. And I would think
Speaker 2: that the biggest thing that a wolf pack or a
Speaker 2: wolf family group does is help each other to rise,
Speaker 2: which makes legacy.
Speaker 3: Packs right right, that's right.
Speaker 1: The most successful packs have their genetics and other packs
Speaker 1: because the animals disperse successfully took their own territories and
Speaker 1: have offspring, and we can and we can actually if
Speaker 1: you're bringing in all the way full circle Wolf twenty one,
Speaker 1: his genetics are woven throughout almost every.
Speaker 2: Other pack in the park, right, Yeah, And so collaboration
Speaker 2: is sexy, you know, working together to rise these other
Speaker 2: up sexy. You guys want to be more sexy. Drop
Speaker 2: in the kindness, drop in the make other people shine,
Speaker 2: let them shine, build them up around you. And if
Speaker 2: you're in a partnership right now, ask yourself the question,
Speaker 2: how do I uplift my partner? How am I uplifting
Speaker 2: my partners so they rise and shine in their competence?
Speaker 2: Doesn't diminishing me need at all. In fact, it makes
Speaker 2: me even more desirable that I do that. And so kindness, collaboration,
Speaker 2: we got it going on here, and I thank you
Speaker 2: so much, Oliver. It's awesome. And hey, you guys all
Speaker 2: better be telling me that some of the cool things
Speaker 2: about being, you know, a podcast guest is when people
Speaker 2: like Oliver say, oh, well yeah, with an exception, you
Speaker 2: can come, because you better believe I'm gonna go check
Speaker 2: this out. Like being kept from I will not be
Speaker 2: wearing my pajamas, just.
Speaker 3: Saying I'll tell you what's wear in advance.
Speaker 2: Kevlar keV Lar, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Pretty much, pretty much.
Speaker 1: And and if one of you guys does have somehow
Speaker 1: knows Joe Rogan, I would love for Joe to come
Speaker 1: and learn about what alpha wolves are really like like
Speaker 1: he had I know he loves wolves. He's super interesting
Speaker 1: Wolves he talks about him almost every episode.
Speaker 3: He should come meet some Lex Friedman.
Speaker 1: Also like, any of you guys like reach out to me,
Speaker 1: come see, come learn, and then you'll really know.
Speaker 2: I love that. I absolutely love that. There is Oliver's ask,
Speaker 2: So any of you have an INN or something like that,
Speaker 2: we can even like drop drop them a podcast episode.
Speaker 2: So now like make sure that that happens. All right,
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody, Thanks guys, See you in the next episode.