Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Seeing a dead person right there
Speaker 1: in the living room. It was my aunt's father. He
Speaker 1: went by No No, and I remember repeating that in
Speaker 1: my head repeatedly throughout seeing him in the casket in
Speaker 1: the living room. It was a thing, you know, you
Speaker 1: would bring the body to the home.
Speaker 2: This was back that.
Speaker 1: It must have been early eighties, a nice Italian Catholic family,
Speaker 1: and you would. You'd have our dervs and cocktails around
Speaker 1: the dead body.
Speaker 2: And that was just what was done.
Speaker 3: There's something nice about that.
Speaker 1: Now my memory is it's in the living room, but
Speaker 1: it could have been in the mortuary, in the special
Speaker 1: room where.
Speaker 2: You look at the body the day before the funeral.
Speaker 1: It could have bet that. But I do remember there
Speaker 1: being like cannapase or something, you know. I do remember
Speaker 1: there being a nach nash here and there with No
Speaker 1: No's funeral, and I do member seeing him and being
Speaker 1: like this isn't right, No, No, something is it right?
Speaker 4: Today the Pope's body is on display for Vatican officials.
Speaker 1: Looked very similar to No except no, No, was a
Speaker 1: smaller man.
Speaker 4: And he's down. He's not on a catafalut. He's not
Speaker 4: raised up on a big platform.
Speaker 2: Fancy word, A fancy ass word. This early.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Talk me through this word? What
Speaker 1: a catafult f a l k? Is that like a.
Speaker 3: Raised burial platform? I did burial?
Speaker 2: Or did you learn this word?
Speaker 4: We've said it many times whenever a prominent politician dies.
Speaker 2: Is this something you do at home? No, no, you've.
Speaker 1: Said I've never I've never heard the word.
Speaker 2: I've never read the word.
Speaker 4: Prominent senators or former presidents die, their bodies are usually
Speaker 4: placed in the capital, you know, on a catafalc, which
Speaker 4: I believe dates back to Lincoln. Wow, that same catafalc. Anyway,
Speaker 4: he's not on one. It doesn't matter, it's not part
Speaker 4: of the story. He's not on one. Pope Francis's body
Speaker 4: is laid very I mean, there's there's a Q and catafulc.
Speaker 2: A l q u E.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that. I was saying it wrong
Speaker 3: the whole time.
Speaker 2: Impressive.
Speaker 4: I was saying cada falk, not catafault catafalq fulk. There's
Speaker 4: no l in it weld on.
Speaker 5: Cat.
Speaker 4: We're both saying, and again, it doesn't matter because it's
Speaker 4: not involved, it doesn't have one, and as ornate as
Speaker 4: they get, he is still toned down compared to what
Speaker 4: other popes have gotten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking with Raymond Arroyo yesterday, a host
Speaker 1: of the Arroyo Grand podcast, and he said that it's
Speaker 1: actually kind of an f and you excuse me to
Speaker 1: the church, that that they're not making a big deal
Speaker 1: out of it, that they're not doing all the pomp
Speaker 1: and circumstance that goes with the title of the pope,
Speaker 1: Like it's not about you and your last wishes, and
Speaker 1: that you want it to be toned down. It's about
Speaker 1: the Pope is a very big, large deal in the
Speaker 1: Catholic Church, the biggest right up there with God.
Speaker 2: They call him, Yeah, the Holy Father.
Speaker 4: I mean, now in other brands of church, there's one
Speaker 4: Holy Father, right, not a.
Speaker 2: Guy like I said.
Speaker 1: You know, I remember the picture of Reagan and then
Speaker 1: the picture of Jesus and then the picture of John
Speaker 1: Paul the Second. So it's kind of a touchy subject
Speaker 1: even in death.
Speaker 2: This pope.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a pretty fascinating guy. Your point yesterday
Speaker 4: about the pendulum swinging back the other way towards a
Speaker 4: more conservative head of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3: I think is pretty definitely going to happen.
Speaker 4: So all right, I didn't get my signal chain update,
Speaker 4: but apparently we dropped a couple more bombs on Yemen's capital.
Speaker 4: Twelve people killed, thirty four wounded, according to the Houthi rebels,
Speaker 4: the scent Com, a military sent com, is not answering
Speaker 4: questions about the strike. They're not talking about any potential
Speaker 4: civilian casualties.
Speaker 3: And all of this.
Speaker 4: The Houthies say the strike hit the far Wat neighborhood
Speaker 4: market in the district within the capital. All of this
Speaker 4: going on with the backdrop of the Secretary of Defense,
Speaker 4: Pete heg Seth, who might be under fire.
Speaker 3: The NPR is the NPR.
Speaker 4: NPR is suggesting that the White House has begun the
Speaker 4: process of looking for a new Secretary of Defense.
Speaker 2: Trump's pissed.
Speaker 1: Trump's pissed at Jerome Powell, but he can't fire Jerome Powell.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is about Pete haig Seth. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's about the milk. I think that Trump's
Speaker 1: pissed off that he feels like he's hamstrung in one sense,
Speaker 1: but all of this press surrounding Pete haig Seth And
Speaker 1: I don't think he helped himself yesterday with his comments
Speaker 1: at the Easter egg role. I don't know why that
Speaker 1: was such a funny thing to hear out loud, but
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, when he was kind of
Speaker 1: defiant and petulant and pointing fingers at other people, all
Speaker 1: you had to do was say, hey, I don't use
Speaker 1: that app anymore, and that was not classified information and
Speaker 1: I was talking to my wife, so can you just
Speaker 1: back off?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean something.
Speaker 1: There's an easy way to squash that. There's an easy
Speaker 1: way to be above the conversation and above the because
Speaker 1: the media was going for blood yesterday with those headlines
Speaker 1: about the second signal chat to the brother and the
Speaker 1: lawyer and the wife and oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: But when you read into it, there was not a
Speaker 2: lot there there. There wasn't a.
Speaker 1: Lot of real media information that was passed along. And
Speaker 1: two of those people work in the Department of Defense.
Speaker 1: So his outsize reaction I think probably didn't go over
Speaker 1: well with Trump.
Speaker 4: Well, And today went on Fox and said, it's just
Speaker 4: a case of leakers gonna leak. These guys that he fired, right,
Speaker 4: he had them. I think it's three that were fired
Speaker 4: and one that resigned. He put pressure on these guys
Speaker 4: because he wanted to find leakers within the Department of Defense.
Speaker 4: He believes he found them. They haven't been charged with
Speaker 4: anything yet. He did say that the Department of Justice
Speaker 4: is going to get the case. But he's saying, Wow,
Speaker 4: what a surprise. The people I accused of leaking now
Speaker 4: go to the reporters that they'd already been leaking to
Speaker 4: and leak some more.
Speaker 6: When you dismiss people who you believe are leaking classified information.
Speaker 6: And again, the investigation is ongoing and that will take time,
Speaker 6: and if when the evidence produced, it will go to DOJ.
Speaker 6: Why would it surprise anybody, Brian, if those very same
Speaker 6: people keep leaking to the very same reporters whatever information
Speaker 6: they think they can have to try to sabotage the
Speaker 6: agenda of the president or the secretary. So once a leaker,
Speaker 6: always a leaker, often a leaker, And so we looked
Speaker 6: for leakers because we take it very seriously, and we will.
Speaker 3: Do the investigation.
Speaker 6: And if those people are exonerated, fantastic. We don't think
Speaker 6: based on what we understand, that it's going to be
Speaker 6: a good day for a number of those individuals because
Speaker 6: of what was found in the investigation.
Speaker 4: Okay, so he goes on and says that the DJ
Speaker 4: is going to give the is going to get the case,
Speaker 4: and they will decide if charges are brought against these officials.
Speaker 1: White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt has denied there's any
Speaker 1: effort to replace Haig Seth, posting on exit President Trump
Speaker 1: stands strongly behind him.
Speaker 4: Well, that's not necessarily a guarantee that he won't. I mean,
Speaker 4: he said that before.
Speaker 1: He's also torown his press secretaries straight under the wheels
Speaker 1: of the bus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's not a guarantee. But I don't I
Speaker 4: don't see this.
Speaker 1: You can stand strongly behind him at breakfast and by
Speaker 1: lunch be done. But I just think it's it's a
Speaker 1: funny thing to fire him over. It's just not the
Speaker 1: Trump way of doing things. Trump fires people who have
Speaker 1: been disloyal to him, not people who make boneheaded decisions.
Speaker 4: Right, So I just and Pete Hexseth wasn't remember Peteseth
Speaker 4: was not the one who was on the line on
Speaker 4: the hook. Necessarily for the first signal chat faux pas,
Speaker 4: which was to include a journalist from the Atlantic that
Speaker 4: was pinned squarely on Mike Walls, National Security Adviser. So right,
Speaker 4: so that part of it.
Speaker 1: There must be something we don't know if there could be, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there could be, or or Trump's just feeling like he
Speaker 1: needs to assert power somewhere because he can't do it
Speaker 1: with Jerome Powell.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Up next the latest on what we know about what's
Speaker 4: going on with the pope. There will be viewing today
Speaker 4: for Vatican officials. Tomorrow the public gets it, and we
Speaker 4: know more about the funeral coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 2: Ps Jerome Powell.
Speaker 1: News aside, The Dow is bounced back this morning, just
Speaker 1: rising to a thousand points to regain the ground it
Speaker 1: lost yesterday. Okay, so this day one thousand that day everyone,
Speaker 1: So that's just calming down.
Speaker 2: Maybe the temperatures lowered a little bit in Washington. We'll see.
Speaker 3: Oh that's cute.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: Bless my heart.
Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 1: So remember when I said a bad word on this show.
Speaker 1: You were talking about which one like probably the most
Speaker 1: egregious one about lawn mowing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was about lunch.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was COVID. There was a lot going on.
Speaker 1: It was in the deep parts of COVID. We had
Speaker 1: been locked up for quite some time. And you were like,
Speaker 1: riding a lawnmower?
Speaker 2: Do you have to wear a mask? And I was like,
Speaker 2: what up? Blah blah blah. Lost it. Well. I had
Speaker 2: a similar moment yesterday.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm leaving this place, the garage, and I'm pulling
Speaker 1: out of the garage, and there is a walkway ahead
Speaker 1: of the pulling out of the garage area, and there
Speaker 1: is a person. I have a green light, which means
Speaker 1: I should go right out the garage, but there's a
Speaker 1: person walking ahead of me against do not walk sign,
Speaker 1: a red little person sign, wearing a mask.
Speaker 3: Did you honk?
Speaker 1: And I said to myself in the car the same
Speaker 1: things that I said on the air that day. I
Speaker 1: don't know where that response came from. I don't know
Speaker 1: where that reaction came from, but it was.
Speaker 2: You, what the effort? You like an idiot? Like, who's
Speaker 2: that guy?
Speaker 1: Likes a guy in the car with me right now?
Speaker 1: Why is he so angry, but I'm still thinking about it.
Speaker 1: If you want to wear a mask, fine, wear a mask,
Speaker 1: but don't be a dip ass and put your life
Speaker 1: in danger wearing your freaking mask like doing. The most
Speaker 1: unforced error of putting your life in danger is walking.
Speaker 2: Through a cross walk when I have a green light.
Speaker 2: Be a dumb ass, like that's a stupid thing to do.
Speaker 4: One is a sign of weakness and the other is
Speaker 4: a sign of idiocy.
Speaker 1: I support people that don't want to get sick or
Speaker 1: don't want others to get sick from them, and they
Speaker 1: wear the mask. Fine, if you're that safety conscience, more
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Speaker 1: But if you're going to be that guy, then be
Speaker 1: that guy. Follow the freaking lights, don't cross when I
Speaker 1: have a green light.
Speaker 2: Mess your dumb ass.
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Speaker 2: It's just dumb.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine dying with your mask on because you
Speaker 1: cross the street against a red do not cross sign
Speaker 1: because you're a dumb ass? That would come That would
Speaker 1: be ironic, wouldn't it come up in their Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: so safe that in twenty twenty five, you're not sick
Speaker 1: and you're wearing a mask in the outdoors in the way,
Speaker 1: and you in the outdoors where there's air to breathe
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Speaker 1: a plane. You're outside, sir, and you're gonna freaking die
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 3: Did you kill him? I did not wanted to.
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Speaker 3: You don't talk to your husband like this? To you?
Speaker 2: No? What like like I talk about the guy?
Speaker 3: Think you're crazy?
Speaker 1: That's why I come here and I get it all out,
Speaker 1: you know, huh, Well, listen, my audi is completely normal
Speaker 1: and nice. You're what my audi?
Speaker 3: Oh you're a you're doing a severance thing. Is that
Speaker 3: what you're doing?
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about my belly Biden.
Speaker 4: Yes, why I didn't quite know what's going on. Pope
Speaker 4: Francis a funeral scheduled for ten o'clock local time Saturday
Speaker 4: at Saint Peter's Basilica. The Vatican has announced a meeting
Speaker 4: of the College of the Cardinals at the Catholic Church's
Speaker 4: city state headquarters in the heart of Rome today. The
Speaker 4: coffin that's carrying the Pope will be brought in a
Speaker 4: procession tomorrow morning, accompanied by the cardinals to the Basilica
Speaker 4: from his residence at Casa Santa Marta, where he died.
Speaker 3: He's actually as weird as this sounds.
Speaker 4: He's He's lying in state in the lobby of Casa
Speaker 4: Santa Marta today, guarded there by the very ornate Swiss guards.
Speaker 3: The Pope's body.
Speaker 4: Can be seen in some of the photos that the
Speaker 4: Vatican released today, the first one since his death, showing
Speaker 4: him in the wooden coffin, wearing the red robe, the
Speaker 4: papal miter on his head and rosary intertwined in his hands.
Speaker 1: We also heard yesterday that this was a pope that
Speaker 1: did not throw house parties. He did not invite the
Speaker 1: cardinals over during his term, very often the way that
Speaker 1: most popes do, or popes in the past have done.
Speaker 1: So these cardinals are all getting together to create to
Speaker 1: find the new pope, or to crown the new pope,
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to say. And there's a little
Speaker 1: bit of consternation here. There's a little bit of figuring
Speaker 1: it all out and jockeying, and these cardinals may not
Speaker 1: be as close and don't understand each other's line of
Speaker 1: thinking as they may have done in the past.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about it a little bit later.
Speaker 1: But there's some some infighting going on. As I've read
Speaker 1: about the selection process.
Speaker 3: Did I see that.
Speaker 4: I don't know the exact number, but he appointed something
Speaker 4: like three orders of the current cardinals that are there
Speaker 4: that will decide who the next pope is.
Speaker 3: I don't know how common that is.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's sounds like a lot along
Speaker 4: the same lines as the other popes had done. We
Speaker 4: do know that President Trump and First Lady Malania Trump
Speaker 4: have said that they will attend President Zelenski of Ukraine
Speaker 4: has said that he'll be there. Francis Emmanuel Macrone, Prime
Speaker 4: Minister George Maloney of Italy among the first royals to
Speaker 4: confirm to they will attend where King Philippe and Queen
Speaker 4: Matilda of Belgium. So there will be plenty of people
Speaker 4: there in the Vatican on Saturday for that funeral mass.
Speaker 1: Well, this was all over social media this morning, Scott
Speaker 1: Peterson's mug.
Speaker 2: Why because the.
Speaker 1: Innocence Project says it has new evidence that will exonerate
Speaker 1: Scott Peterson. We'll talk about what they are claiming to
Speaker 1: have when we return.
Speaker 3: Gary and Shannon will continue.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Don't wear a mask while you're crossing against a red light?
Speaker 1: Does that make sense to everyone?
Speaker 3: It does to me. I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: If you're going to be a careful person, be a
Speaker 1: careful person, don't be a care don't be an overly
Speaker 1: careful person, and then be a wildly underly careful person
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 3: Hope it balances out.
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Speaker 7: Gary and Shannon. I am definitely going to hell for this,
Speaker 7: but I thought you said catapult, and honestly, if you're
Speaker 7: going to have a papal funeral with a catapult, I'm
Speaker 7: all in on that. I will pay. That should be
Speaker 7: pay for view with the money given to the poor.
Speaker 7: I would watch that. Take care. Thanks.
Speaker 4: I I'll one up that and say a papal funeral
Speaker 4: with a tribute Sha would be even better.
Speaker 1: What is a tribute Shaw? You and your words today,
Speaker 1: I'm very impressed, Tay.
Speaker 4: Good morning guys. Gary.
Speaker 7: I hate to admit it that I listened to the
Speaker 7: show every day and I'm doing it in public.
Speaker 3: I've never heard you say catapult before.
Speaker 1: Now, come on, gi, Yeah, give us a break. You've
Speaker 1: never said that word. I've never said that word. I've
Speaker 1: never read the word. I've never heard the word. This
Speaker 1: was the first time the word has entered my life,
Speaker 1: and I'm better for it.
Speaker 4: And I thank you for Jimmy Carter died the most
Speaker 4: recent president that I can think of that died. When
Speaker 4: his body was placed in the Capitol for viewing, it
Speaker 4: was placed on a cataphult. I'm not saying you're wrong
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we've never talked about that word ever,
Speaker 1: ever before. I would have the same reaction to that
Speaker 1: word as I had today, which is, I've never heard
Speaker 1: that word before.
Speaker 2: What does that word mean? You know? I would have
Speaker 2: that same reaction.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. But you might have had that.
Speaker 2: Say I didn't. I would remember it.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of things about this show that
Speaker 3: we do not remember, like what.
Speaker 1: Like mister like when you forgot last week about mister
Speaker 1: bumber Puss.
Speaker 4: When we talk about we talk about things that have
Speaker 4: happened on this show, both of us have said things
Speaker 4: like wait, we did what?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but words kind of different, maybe, you know.
Speaker 3: Scott Peterson is back in the news today.
Speaker 1: All right, So this was apparently filed on Friday night,
Speaker 1: this exhaustive four hundred page petition to the California Court
Speaker 1: of Appeals done by the Innocence Project. I think the
Speaker 1: Innocence Project does great work. When when it's right, it's
Speaker 1: not right. Here it's right, they say. It's a new
Speaker 1: twist in his push for freedom. Scott Peterson's in this
Speaker 1: newly released four hundred page petition to the Court of Appeals,
Speaker 1: the prosecution's case against Peterson, the Innocence Project says, was
Speaker 1: entirely circumstantial, and that My response to that is and
Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence is viewed as just as important as direct evidence.
Speaker 2: In the court of law. That's why they call it
Speaker 2: evidence evidence exactly.
Speaker 1: That is not an argument, and the Innocence Project should
Speaker 1: know that. In fact, there's a lot of direct testimony,
Speaker 1: whether it's testimonial evidence of eyewitnesses that are notoriously wrong.
Speaker 1: But anyway, circumstantial evidence is very helpful, and people are
Speaker 1: convicted on solely circumstantial evidence all the time, probably more
Speaker 1: so than direct evidence. Direct evidence is what you get
Speaker 1: when you watch CSI and things like that. It's very
Speaker 1: hard to get direct evidence that's actually helpful. They said
Speaker 1: that they've investigated this case for more than a year.
Speaker 1: The Innocence Project has one whole year. Huh, I mean,
Speaker 1: despite the fact that this happened what twenty three years ago?
Speaker 4: Now, well, they have filed a four hundred page petition
Speaker 4: with the California Court of Appeals and they say he's innocent.
Speaker 3: They say that his conviction should be overturned.
Speaker 4: So a couple things I want to point out of
Speaker 4: the four hundred page filing. More than a hundred page
Speaker 4: of that is Scott's own declaration that he didn't do it. Reminder,
Speaker 4: Scott Peterson did not testify in his own trial. He
Speaker 4: doesn't have to. That's a constitutional right. But the reason
Speaker 4: he gets to blurt out one hundred and twenty six
Speaker 4: page declaration is there's no one there to cross examine him.
Speaker 1: We've heard Scott Peterson lie, We've heard the tapes of
Speaker 1: him on the phone to his mistress at his wife's
Speaker 1: candlelight vigil. We know this is somebody who is practiced
Speaker 1: and skilled and a really great liar. So Scott Peterson,
Speaker 1: in his own words, doesn't get me very far, doesn't
Speaker 1: move the needle for me. This petition goes on to
Speaker 1: say that Scott Peterson was denied his rights to due
Speaker 1: process in a fair trial because jurors did not hear
Speaker 1: evidence that the Innocence Project argues could have affected the
Speaker 1: outcome of the trial. That police and prosecutors do not
Speaker 1: fairly investigate the case they are they are accusing, and
Speaker 1: this is not new. This is all stuff Mark geragis
Speaker 1: laid out five hundred years ago at the first trial.
Speaker 1: They say that that the cops in this case had
Speaker 1: tunnel vision that once they locked on to Peterson, they
Speaker 1: had no interest in finding evidence that showed someone other
Speaker 1: than Scott may have abducted Lacy Peterson because that didn't
Speaker 1: fit in with their working theory of the case. They
Speaker 1: talk about that the two crimes that happened around the
Speaker 1: same time as her disappearance near the Peterson's home, a
Speaker 1: burglary at the neighbor's home. A burned van at the
Speaker 1: airport the airport area of Modesto. Let's let's let's all
Speaker 1: remember the picture of Lacy Peterson when she disappeared very pregnant.
Speaker 1: There's there's no other possibility. Common sense will tell you
Speaker 1: Okham's raiser than the husband in this case.
Speaker 2: But let's play along with your theory.
Speaker 1: You think that a burnt van at the airport has
Speaker 1: anything to do with a very pregnant woman's disappearance.
Speaker 4: Well, their argument is that in that van was a
Speaker 4: mattress that had some blood on it and that was
Speaker 4: never tested to see if it was Lacey's blood.
Speaker 1: What about the direct evidence that was found in Scott
Speaker 1: Peterson's boat that he took out on Christmas morning in
Speaker 1: the bay that was about an hour away. Because Christmas
Speaker 1: morning makes sense. This is the other thing that they
Speaker 1: bring up. And I'd like to directly refute this because
Speaker 1: I was there. They say that this because the cops
Speaker 1: locked in on this, it creates on Scott Peterson. It
Speaker 1: created a domino effect and caused a tidal wave of
Speaker 1: media attention focused on Peterson as a prime suspect in
Speaker 1: the case. Lacey was missing for quite some time before
Speaker 1: what was left of her body was discovered in the
Speaker 1: bay that Scott Peterson took his boat out on Christmas morning,
Speaker 1: the day after she disappeared. I was there the first
Speaker 1: day that day after Christmas when they held the first
Speaker 1: press conference in Modesto, and I was there was twenty
Speaker 1: three because nobody else was working. And when you're young
Speaker 1: and you're working in a newsroom, you work all the holidays.
Speaker 1: And I went out there totally and over my head
Speaker 1: for a missing pregnant wife.
Speaker 2: But here I was.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you about a town that was
Speaker 1: rallying around Scott Peterson. I mean it was like he
Speaker 1: was the Modesto's first son. I mean, everybody was just Scott,
Speaker 1: what do you need? Are you okay? Everyone giving him
Speaker 1: hugs like oh my god, and that went on for weeks.
Speaker 1: There was no tidal wave that buried Scott Peterson from
Speaker 1: go the cops if they thought it was him out
Speaker 1: of the gate.
Speaker 2: They played a great role. They did.
Speaker 1: They they did not let on for a long time.
Speaker 1: I mean when you watch all the documentaries, you see
Speaker 1: that the way that they treated him and the way
Speaker 1: they treated him in public, this wasn't a case of
Speaker 1: somebody that was sandbagged out of the gate and that
Speaker 1: they just didn't focus on anything else. I mean, Mark
Speaker 1: Gerregis floated the idea of the band of gypsies going
Speaker 1: through Modesto, Like if you're a gypsy, you want to
Speaker 1: go to Modesto, come on, you go to the coast.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, it's just crazy that they're
Speaker 1: still throwing this stuff out there. And you can we
Speaker 1: saw with Menanda's brothers. You enough time goes by, you
Speaker 1: can throw out whatever narrative you want.
Speaker 3: It's easy to forget what that we were.
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, who saw everything that was going on.
Speaker 4: The two things or two of the things that they've
Speaker 4: also claimed is that they have scientific evidence that shows
Speaker 4: the date of death of the unborn child later than
Speaker 4: what was claimed at trial. How that changes it, I
Speaker 4: don't quite understand. Then an expert in water movement would
Speaker 4: be able to prove that Lacy Peterson's body was not
Speaker 4: dumped where police said it was in December of two
Speaker 4: thousand and five.
Speaker 1: That goes back to the expert witness boondoggle that exists
Speaker 1: in this country for both sides, prosecution and defense attorneys,
Speaker 1: when they hire whoever they can hire to say exactly
Speaker 1: what they want them to say. And it happens every day,
Speaker 1: one hundreds and thousands of times over and guess what
Speaker 1: you're all paying for it. We're paying crazy amounts of
Speaker 1: money for the state or defense attorneys in some cases
Speaker 1: to bring in these expert witnesses to say, well, based
Speaker 1: on my experience in my school, again, yes, I did
Speaker 1: go to seventeen colleges and I have seventeen advanced degrees,
Speaker 1: and absolutely her body was in the water for everybody
Speaker 1: for the X amount of time. For every guy that's
Speaker 1: going to get up there and say that you can
Speaker 1: find another guy or girl says, well, for my seventeen
Speaker 1: degrees and my seventeen you know whatever accolades, there absolutely
Speaker 1: was no way she was in the water for more
Speaker 1: than two days, you know what I mean. Like, it's
Speaker 1: just everyone has bought and sold.
Speaker 4: Which is why now it's very common for attorneys to
Speaker 4: ask those witnesses how much are you getting paid?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: How much you're getting paid to be here?
Speaker 1: They have to and I don't know. None of that
Speaker 1: testimony ever means. It just crosses each other out both sides.
Speaker 4: Our food is different, and one of the things that
Speaker 4: RFK Junior says he wants to do is phase out
Speaker 4: some food dies that are in a bunch of our foods,
Speaker 4: unnecessary food dies. By the way, we'll talk about that
Speaker 4: we come back. Catafalk fulk fock fuck, he says it.
Speaker 3: Yes, doesn't pronounce the L no. I do you do?
Speaker 3: It's my style, it's your thing.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Good news on Wall Street, where stocks are surging after
Speaker 1: the Dow closed almost one thousand points lower yesterday, Today's
Speaker 1: jump half and after Bloomberg reported sources said Treasury Secretary
Speaker 1: Scott Bessent told a group of investors that a trade
Speaker 1: war with China is unsustainable. I mean, it's obvious, but
Speaker 1: it's good that somebody in the circle knows it right.
Speaker 1: The Dow has been up over one thousand points at times.
Speaker 1: The S and P five hundred and the Nasdaq have
Speaker 1: both been over two percent as well.
Speaker 4: One of the things that RFK Junior said when he
Speaker 4: was running for president and then when he joined forces
Speaker 4: with President Trump is he wanted to change the way
Speaker 4: we eat, not just the kinds of foods we eat,
Speaker 4: but the food that we eat. And significantly, the first
Speaker 4: thing that he wants to do is direct food manufacturers
Speaker 4: to phase out specific food dyes that are found in
Speaker 4: a bunch of grocery store foods, for example, eight petroleum
Speaker 4: based food dies. I FDA regulates about eighty percent of
Speaker 4: the food that we eat, and they banned red dye
Speaker 4: three just before Trump took office. Studies connected it to
Speaker 4: cancer in lab animals. That followed our law, the one
Speaker 4: here in California, they called it the Skittle Law at the.
Speaker 3: Time that would ban red dye number three. The eight
Speaker 3: dies that.
Speaker 4: Healthy Human Service to Secretary Kennedy wants to phase out
Speaker 4: are used within the United States, but they are but
Speaker 4: products made for the European markets do not use them,
Speaker 4: and if they do, they must add a warning to
Speaker 4: the label. Canadian markets already use natural color substitutes. The
Speaker 4: event today is supposed to be an approval of additional
Speaker 4: natural dyes that you can put in. As an example,
Speaker 4: the red the reds that we see in some of
Speaker 4: our foods, whether it's candy or other things like that,
Speaker 4: is often a petroleum based dye.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be.
Speaker 1: He said that in Canada, fruit Loops gets its bright
Speaker 1: colors from blueberries and carrots instead of red number forty,
Speaker 1: yellow number five, and blue number one in the American version.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pepsi, General Millshin Craft, Hinds. They have all said
Speaker 4: there isn't enough science that connects ingredients with how with
Speaker 4: health outcomes. The FDA has long maintained that most children
Speaker 4: don't have adverse effects from eating food. Dice gonna repeat that.
Speaker 4: The Food and Drug Administration, the government agency that's responsible
Speaker 4: for safety of our food supply, says most kids don't
Speaker 4: have a problem with it, then.
Speaker 2: Why have it at all?
Speaker 4: Right, If even if some kids have a problem with it, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have people who are I guess allergic to
Speaker 4: blueberries or carrots maybe, but nowhere near as many as
Speaker 4: people are going to be allergic to petroleum based food
Speaker 4: dies it it doesn't make sense, and people want to
Speaker 4: You want to protest against RFK Junior.
Speaker 3: You think he's a whack job. I don't care.
Speaker 2: This is the common sense kind of stuff that.
Speaker 1: I was just going to say when you talked about
Speaker 1: Kellogg or whatever the company general mills Heinz, there's no
Speaker 1: evidence to show.
Speaker 2: Yaki yak, yak yak. It's common sense.
Speaker 1: Well, and if food dies common sense, that can't be good.
Speaker 4: Well, and it's a kind of it's them splitting hairs
Speaker 4: when they say that there's no evidence. Our FDA will
Speaker 4: not take European scientist's word for it. Our FDA says,
Speaker 4: if we're going to ban something, we need to have
Speaker 4: an American lab do the same test to make sure
Speaker 4: that it's good or bad or vice vera whatever.
Speaker 1: And that's because the FDA doesn't get paid by scientists
Speaker 1: in Europe.
Speaker 2: They get paid by those.
Speaker 1: Labs in America to say whatever they want them to say,
Speaker 1: just like expert witnesses Ken Paxton.
Speaker 4: By the way, the Texas Attorney General, I think is
Speaker 4: going to be running for governor, has said that his
Speaker 4: office open an investigation into Kellogg because they market their
Speaker 4: products as healthy with no actual evidence that it is healthy,
Speaker 4: and maybe even some evidence that is that would show
Speaker 4: that it is not healthy.
Speaker 3: So take my food dies. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I broiled salmon last night and I used a Tazeki
Speaker 1: sauce on it.
Speaker 4: There's a New York Times recipe today for a Greek
Speaker 4: yogurt on top of your Greek yogurt marinade for your.
Speaker 2: Sam because they listened to the show.
Speaker 3: I don't know how they did that.
Speaker 1: Well, they listened to the show and then they printed
Speaker 1: the article this morning or last night.
Speaker 2: We say it on the air, we did, I don't
Speaker 2: know if we did. I don't know. You had salmon anyway,
Speaker 2: said I love Juseki on it. Yeah. I actually just.
Speaker 1: Put a little oil, salt and pepper. It didn't really
Speaker 1: even need it. It was delicious with just that four
Speaker 1: minutes in that broiler man boom and easiest way I've
Speaker 1: ever made salmon. It's good too, My goodness, it was delicious.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 3: Karen Bass stayed in the city yesterday.
Speaker 4: She has said she is she's hopeful, except for the
Speaker 4: sixteen hundred people that she's gonna have to lay off
Speaker 4: outside of that for all other four.
Speaker 3: Million people in the city. She's she's pretty hopeful.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it when we come back to Gary
Speaker 2: and Shannon.
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