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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. Seeing a dead person right there

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<v Speaker 1>in the living room. It was my aunt's father. He

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<v Speaker 1>went by No No, and I remember repeating that in

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<v Speaker 1>my head repeatedly throughout seeing him in the casket in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room. It was a thing, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>would bring the body to the home.

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<v Speaker 2>This was back that.

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<v Speaker 1>It must have been early eighties, a nice Italian Catholic family,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would. You'd have our dervs and cocktails around

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<v Speaker 1>the dead body.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was just what was done.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something nice about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now my memory is it's in the living room, but

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been in the mortuary, in the special

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<v Speaker 1>room where.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at the body the day before the funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have bet that. But I do remember there

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<v Speaker 1>being like cannapase or something, you know. I do remember

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<v Speaker 1>there being a nach nash here and there with No

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<v Speaker 1>No's funeral, and I do member seeing him and being

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<v Speaker 1>like this isn't right, No, No, something is it right?

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<v Speaker 4>Today the Pope's body is on display for Vatican officials.

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<v Speaker 1>Looked very similar to No except no, No, was a

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<v Speaker 1>smaller man.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's down. He's not on a catafalut. He's not

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<v Speaker 4>raised up on a big platform.

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<v Speaker 2>Fancy word, A fancy ass word. This early.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean? Talk me through this word? What

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<v Speaker 1>a catafult f a l k? Is that like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Raised burial platform? I did burial?

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<v Speaker 2>Or did you learn this word?

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<v Speaker 4>We've said it many times whenever a prominent politician dies.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this something you do at home? No, no, you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Said I've never I've never heard the word.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never read the word.

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<v Speaker 4>Prominent senators or former presidents die, their bodies are usually

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<v Speaker 4>placed in the capital, you know, on a catafalc, which

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<v Speaker 4>I believe dates back to Lincoln. Wow, that same catafalc. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>he's not on one. It doesn't matter, it's not part

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<v Speaker 4>of the story. He's not on one. Pope Francis's body

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<v Speaker 4>is laid very I mean, there's there's a Q and catafulc.

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<v Speaker 2>A l q u E.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't know that. I was saying it wrong

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<v Speaker 3>the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>Impressive.

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<v Speaker 4>I was saying cada falk, not catafault catafalq fulk. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no l in it weld on.

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<v Speaker 5>Cat.

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<v Speaker 4>We're both saying, and again, it doesn't matter because it's

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<v Speaker 4>not involved, it doesn't have one, and as ornate as

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<v Speaker 4>they get, he is still toned down compared to what

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<v Speaker 4>other popes have gotten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we were talking with Raymond Arroyo yesterday, a host

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<v Speaker 1>of the Arroyo Grand podcast, and he said that it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually kind of an f and you excuse me to

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<v Speaker 1>the church, that that they're not making a big deal

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<v Speaker 1>out of it, that they're not doing all the pomp

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<v Speaker 1>and circumstance that goes with the title of the pope,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not about you and your last wishes, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you want it to be toned down. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>the Pope is a very big, large deal in the

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church, the biggest right up there with God.

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<v Speaker 2>They call him, Yeah, the Holy Father.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, now in other brands of church, there's one

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<v Speaker 4>Holy Father, right, not a.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy like I said.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I remember the picture of Reagan and then

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<v Speaker 1>the picture of Jesus and then the picture of John

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<v Speaker 1>Paul the Second. So it's kind of a touchy subject

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<v Speaker 1>even in death.

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<v Speaker 2>This pope.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was a pretty fascinating guy. Your point yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>about the pendulum swinging back the other way towards a

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<v Speaker 4>more conservative head of the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 3>I think is pretty definitely going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>So all right, I didn't get my signal chain update,

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<v Speaker 4>but apparently we dropped a couple more bombs on Yemen's capital.

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<v Speaker 4>Twelve people killed, thirty four wounded, according to the Houthi rebels,

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<v Speaker 4>the scent Com, a military sent com, is not answering

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<v Speaker 4>questions about the strike. They're not talking about any potential

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<v Speaker 4>civilian casualties.

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<v Speaker 3>And all of this.

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<v Speaker 4>The Houthies say the strike hit the far Wat neighborhood

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<v Speaker 4>market in the district within the capital. All of this

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<v Speaker 4>going on with the backdrop of the Secretary of Defense,

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<v Speaker 4>Pete heg Seth, who might be under fire.

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<v Speaker 3>The NPR is the NPR.

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<v Speaker 4>NPR is suggesting that the White House has begun the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's pissed at Jerome Powell, but he can't fire Jerome Powell.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is about Pete haig Seth. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's about the milk. I think that Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>pissed off that he feels like he's hamstrung in one sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of this press surrounding Pete haig Seth And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he helped himself yesterday with his comments

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<v Speaker 1>at the Easter egg role. I don't know why that

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<v Speaker 1>was such a funny thing to hear out loud, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, when he was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>defiant and petulant and pointing fingers at other people, all

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<v Speaker 1>you had to do was say, hey, I don't use

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<v Speaker 1>that app anymore, and that was not classified information and

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to my wife, so can you just

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<v Speaker 1>back off?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean something.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an easy way to squash that. There's an easy

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<v Speaker 1>way to be above the conversation and above the because

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<v Speaker 1>the media was going for blood yesterday with those headlines

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<v Speaker 1>about the second signal chat to the brother and the

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer and the wife and oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you read into it, there was not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot there there. There wasn't a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of real media information that was passed along. And

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<v Speaker 1>two of those people work in the Department of Defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So his outsize reaction I think probably didn't go over

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<v Speaker 1>well with Trump.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, And today went on Fox and said, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>a case of leakers gonna leak. These guys that he fired, right,

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<v Speaker 4>he had them. I think it's three that were fired

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<v Speaker 4>and one that resigned. He put pressure on these guys

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<v Speaker 4>because he wanted to find leakers within the Department of Defense.

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<v Speaker 4>He believes he found them. They haven't been charged with

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<v Speaker 4>anything yet. He did say that the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 4>is going to get the case. But he's saying, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>what a surprise. The people I accused of leaking now

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<v Speaker 4>go to the reporters that they'd already been leaking to

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<v Speaker 4>and leak some more.

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<v Speaker 6>When you dismiss people who you believe are leaking classified information.

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<v Speaker 6>And again, the investigation is ongoing and that will take time,

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<v Speaker 6>and if when the evidence produced, it will go to DOJ.

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<v Speaker 6>Why would it surprise anybody, Brian, if those very same

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<v Speaker 6>people keep leaking to the very same reporters whatever information

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<v Speaker 6>they think they can have to try to sabotage the

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<v Speaker 6>agenda of the president or the secretary. So once a leaker,

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<v Speaker 6>always a leaker, often a leaker, And so we looked

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<v Speaker 6>for leakers because we take it very seriously, and we will.

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<v Speaker 3>Do the investigation.

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<v Speaker 6>And if those people are exonerated, fantastic. We don't think

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<v Speaker 6>based on what we understand, that it's going to be

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<v Speaker 6>a good day for a number of those individuals because

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<v Speaker 6>of what was found in the investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so he goes on and says that the DJ

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<v Speaker 4>is going to give the is going to get the case,

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<v Speaker 4>and they will decide if charges are brought against these officials.

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<v Speaker 1>White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt has denied there's any

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<v Speaker 1>effort to replace Haig Seth, posting on exit President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>stands strongly behind him.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's not necessarily a guarantee that he won't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>he said that before.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also torown his press secretaries straight under the wheels

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<v Speaker 1>of the bus.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so that's not a guarantee. But I don't I

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<v Speaker 4>don't see this.

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<v Speaker 1>You can stand strongly behind him at breakfast and by

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<v Speaker 1>lunch be done. But I just think it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing to fire him over. It's just not the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump way of doing things. Trump fires people who have

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<v Speaker 1>been disloyal to him, not people who make boneheaded decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So I just and Pete Hexseth wasn't remember Peteseth

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<v Speaker 4>was not the one who was on the line on

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<v Speaker 4>the hook. Necessarily for the first signal chat faux pas,

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<v Speaker 4>which was to include a journalist from the Atlantic that

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<v Speaker 4>was pinned squarely on Mike Walls, National Security Adviser. So right,

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<v Speaker 4>so that part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>There must be something we don't know if there could be, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there could be, or or Trump's just feeling like he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to assert power somewhere because he can't do it

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<v Speaker 1>with Jerome Powell.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Up next the latest on what we know about what's

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<v Speaker 4>going on with the pope. There will be viewing today

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<v Speaker 4>for Vatican officials. Tomorrow the public gets it, and we

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<v Speaker 4>know more about the funeral coming up on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>Ps Jerome Powell.

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<v Speaker 1>News aside, The Dow is bounced back this morning, just

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<v Speaker 1>rising to a thousand points to regain the ground it

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<v Speaker 1>lost yesterday. Okay, so this day one thousand that day everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's just calming down.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the temperatures lowered a little bit in Washington. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Bless my heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary and Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>So remember when I said a bad word on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>You were talking about which one like probably the most

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<v Speaker 1>egregious one about lawn mowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it was about lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it was COVID. There was a lot going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the deep parts of COVID. We had

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<v Speaker 1>been locked up for quite some time. And you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>riding a lawnmower?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have to wear a mask? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what up? Blah blah blah. Lost it. Well. I had

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<v Speaker 2>a similar moment yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm leaving this place, the garage, and I'm pulling

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<v Speaker 1>out of the garage, and there is a walkway ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the pulling out of the garage area, and there

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<v Speaker 1>is a person. I have a green light, which means

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<v Speaker 1>I should go right out the garage, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>person walking ahead of me against do not walk sign,

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<v Speaker 1>a red little person sign, wearing a mask.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you honk?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said to myself in the car the same

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<v Speaker 1>things that I said on the air that day. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where that response came from. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where that reaction came from, but it was.

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<v Speaker 2>You, what the effort? You like an idiot? Like, who's

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<v Speaker 2>that guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Likes a guy in the car with me right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is he so angry, but I'm still thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to wear a mask, fine, wear a mask,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't be a dip ass and put your life

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<v Speaker 2>Be a dumb ass, like that's a stupid thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I support people that don't want to get sick or

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<v Speaker 1>power to you. Great, I lick paint off the walls.

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<v Speaker 2>Mess your dumb ass.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you imagine dying with your mask on because you

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<v Speaker 1>because you're a dumb ass? That would come That would

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<v Speaker 1>be ironic, wouldn't it come up in their Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you kill him? I did not wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>No I did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like it.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't talk to your husband like this? To you?

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<v Speaker 2>No? What like like I talk about the guy?

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<v Speaker 3>Think you're crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>you know, huh, Well, listen, my audi is completely normal

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're a you're doing a severance thing. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm talking about my belly Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, why I didn't quite know what's going on. Pope

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<v Speaker 4>Francis a funeral scheduled for ten o'clock local time Saturday

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<v Speaker 4>at Saint Peter's Basilica. The Vatican has announced a meeting

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<v Speaker 4>of the College of the Cardinals at the Catholic Church's

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<v Speaker 4>city state headquarters in the heart of Rome today. The

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<v Speaker 4>coffin that's carrying the Pope will be brought in a

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<v Speaker 4>procession tomorrow morning, accompanied by the cardinals to the Basilica

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<v Speaker 4>from his residence at Casa Santa Marta, where he died.

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<v Speaker 3>He's actually as weird as this sounds.

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<v Speaker 4>He's He's lying in state in the lobby of Casa

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<v Speaker 4>Santa Marta today, guarded there by the very ornate Swiss guards.

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<v Speaker 3>The Pope's body.

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<v Speaker 4>Can be seen in some of the photos that the

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<v Speaker 4>Vatican released today, the first one since his death, showing

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<v Speaker 4>him in the wooden coffin, wearing the red robe, the

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<v Speaker 4>papal miter on his head and rosary intertwined in his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>We also heard yesterday that this was a pope that

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<v Speaker 1>did not throw house parties. He did not invite the

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<v Speaker 1>cardinals over during his term, very often the way that

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<v Speaker 1>most popes do, or popes in the past have done.

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<v Speaker 1>So these cardinals are all getting together to create to

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever you want to say. And there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of consternation here. There's a little bit of figuring

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<v Speaker 1>be as close and don't understand each other's line of

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk about it a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's some some infighting going on. As I've read

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<v Speaker 1>about the selection process.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I see that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know the exact number, but he appointed something

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<v Speaker 4>like three orders of the current cardinals that are there

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<v Speaker 4>that will decide who the next pope is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how common that is.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if that's sounds like a lot along

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<v Speaker 4>the same lines as the other popes had done. We

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<v Speaker 4>do know that President Trump and First Lady Malania Trump

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<v Speaker 4>have said that they will attend President Zelenski of Ukraine

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<v Speaker 4>has said that he'll be there. Francis Emmanuel Macrone, Prime

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<v Speaker 4>Minister George Maloney of Italy among the first royals to

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<v Speaker 4>confirm to they will attend where King Philippe and Queen

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<v Speaker 4>Matilda of Belgium. So there will be plenty of people

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<v Speaker 4>there in the Vatican on Saturday for that funeral mass.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this was all over social media this morning, Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson's mug.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because the.

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<v Speaker 1>Innocence Project says it has new evidence that will exonerate

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Peterson. We'll talk about what they are claiming to

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<v Speaker 1>have when we return.

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<v Speaker 3>Gary and Shannon will continue.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 1>Don't wear a mask while you're crossing against a red light?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense to everyone?

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<v Speaker 3>It does to me. I know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to be a careful person, be a

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<v Speaker 1>careful person, don't be a care don't be an overly

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<v Speaker 1>careful person, and then be a wildly underly careful person

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope it balances out.

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<v Speaker 4>Gary and Shannon KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on

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<v Speaker 7>Gary and Shannon. I am definitely going to hell for this,

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<v Speaker 7>but I thought you said catapult, and honestly, if you're

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<v Speaker 7>going to have a papal funeral with a catapult, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>all in on that. I will pay. That should be

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<v Speaker 7>pay for view with the money given to the poor.

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<v Speaker 7>I would watch that. Take care. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>I I'll one up that and say a papal funeral

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<v Speaker 4>with a tribute Sha would be even better.

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<v Speaker 1>What is a tribute Shaw? You and your words today,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very impressed, Tay.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning guys. Gary.

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<v Speaker 7>I hate to admit it that I listened to the

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<v Speaker 7>show every day and I'm doing it in public.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never heard you say catapult before.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, come on, gi, Yeah, give us a break. You've

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<v Speaker 1>never said that word. I've never said that word. I've

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<v Speaker 1>never read the word. I've never heard the word. This

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time the word has entered my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm better for it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thank you for Jimmy Carter died the most

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<v Speaker 4>recent president that I can think of that died. When

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<v Speaker 4>his body was placed in the Capitol for viewing, it

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<v Speaker 4>was placed on a cataphult. I'm not saying you're wrong

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<v Speaker 4>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying you're wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, we've never talked about that word ever,

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<v Speaker 1>ever before. I would have the same reaction to that

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<v Speaker 1>word as I had today, which is, I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>that word before.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that word mean? You know? I would have

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<v Speaker 2>that same reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying. But you might have had that.

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<v Speaker 2>Say I didn't. I would remember it.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of things about this show that

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<v Speaker 3>we do not remember, like what.

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<v Speaker 1>Like mister like when you forgot last week about mister

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<v Speaker 1>bumber Puss.

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<v Speaker 4>When we talk about we talk about things that have

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<v Speaker 4>happened on this show, both of us have said things

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<v Speaker 4>like wait, we did what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but words kind of different, maybe, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Peterson is back in the news today.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So this was apparently filed on Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>this exhaustive four hundred page petition to the California Court

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<v Speaker 1>of Appeals done by the Innocence Project. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Innocence Project does great work. When when it's right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not right. Here it's right, they say. It's a new

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<v Speaker 1>twist in his push for freedom. Scott Peterson's in this

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<v Speaker 1>newly released four hundred page petition to the Court of Appeals,

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecution's case against Peterson, the Innocence Project says, was

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<v Speaker 1>entirely circumstantial, and that My response to that is and

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<v Speaker 1>circumstantial evidence is viewed as just as important as direct evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>In the court of law. That's why they call it

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<v Speaker 2>evidence evidence exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not an argument, and the Innocence Project should

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<v Speaker 1>know that. In fact, there's a lot of direct testimony,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's testimonial evidence of eyewitnesses that are notoriously wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, circumstantial evidence is very helpful, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>convicted on solely circumstantial evidence all the time, probably more

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<v Speaker 1>so than direct evidence. Direct evidence is what you get

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch CSI and things like that. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>hard to get direct evidence that's actually helpful. They said

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<v Speaker 1>that they've investigated this case for more than a year.

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<v Speaker 1>The Innocence Project has one whole year. Huh, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that this happened what twenty three years ago?

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<v Speaker 4>Now, well, they have filed a four hundred page petition

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<v Speaker 4>with the California Court of Appeals and they say he's innocent.

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<v Speaker 3>They say that his conviction should be overturned.

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<v Speaker 4>So a couple things I want to point out of

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<v Speaker 4>the four hundred page filing. More than a hundred page

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<v Speaker 4>of that is Scott's own declaration that he didn't do it. Reminder,

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<v Speaker 4>Scott Peterson did not testify in his own trial. He

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't have to. That's a constitutional right. But the reason

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<v Speaker 4>he gets to blurt out one hundred and twenty six

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<v Speaker 4>page declaration is there's no one there to cross examine him.

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<v Speaker 1>We've heard Scott Peterson lie, We've heard the tapes of

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<v Speaker 1>him on the phone to his mistress at his wife's

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<v Speaker 1>candlelight vigil. We know this is somebody who is practiced

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<v Speaker 1>and skilled and a really great liar. So Scott Peterson,

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<v Speaker 1>in his own words, doesn't get me very far, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>move the needle for me. This petition goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>say that Scott Peterson was denied his rights to due

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<v Speaker 1>process in a fair trial because jurors did not hear

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that the Innocence Project argues could have affected the

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<v Speaker 1>outcome of the trial. That police and prosecutors do not

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<v Speaker 1>fairly investigate the case they are they are accusing, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is not new. This is all stuff Mark geragis

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<v Speaker 1>laid out five hundred years ago at the first trial.

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<v Speaker 1>They say that that the cops in this case had

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel vision that once they locked on to Peterson, they

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<v Speaker 1>had no interest in finding evidence that showed someone other

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<v Speaker 1>than Scott may have abducted Lacy Peterson because that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>fit in with their working theory of the case. They

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that the two crimes that happened around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time as her disappearance near the Peterson's home, a

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<v Speaker 1>burglary at the neighbor's home. A burned van at the

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<v Speaker 1>airport the airport area of Modesto. Let's let's let's all

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<v Speaker 1>remember the picture of Lacy Peterson when she disappeared very pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's no other possibility. Common sense will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>Okham's raiser than the husband in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's play along with your theory.

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<v Speaker 1>You think that a burnt van at the airport has

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<v Speaker 1>anything to do with a very pregnant woman's disappearance.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, their argument is that in that van was a

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<v Speaker 4>mattress that had some blood on it and that was

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<v Speaker 4>never tested to see if it was Lacey's blood.

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<v Speaker 1>What about the direct evidence that was found in Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Peterson's boat that he took out on Christmas morning in

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<v Speaker 1>the bay that was about an hour away. Because Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>morning makes sense. This is the other thing that they

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<v Speaker 1>bring up. And I'd like to directly refute this because

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<v Speaker 1>I was there. They say that this because the cops

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<v Speaker 1>locked in on this, it creates on Scott Peterson. It

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<v Speaker 1>created a domino effect and caused a tidal wave of

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<v Speaker 1>media attention focused on Peterson as a prime suspect in

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Lacey was missing for quite some time before

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<v Speaker 1>what was left of her body was discovered in the

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<v Speaker 1>bay that Scott Peterson took his boat out on Christmas morning,

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<v Speaker 1>the day after she disappeared. I was there the first

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<v Speaker 1>day that day after Christmas when they held the first

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<v Speaker 1>press conference in Modesto, and I was there was twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three because nobody else was working. And when you're young

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<v Speaker 1>and you're working in a newsroom, you work all the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went out there totally and over my head

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<v Speaker 1>for a missing pregnant wife.

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<v Speaker 2>But here I was.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me tell you about a town that was

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<v Speaker 1>rallying around Scott Peterson. I mean it was like he

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<v Speaker 1>was the Modesto's first son. I mean, everybody was just Scott,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you need? Are you okay? Everyone giving him

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<v Speaker 1>hugs like oh my god, and that went on for weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>There was no tidal wave that buried Scott Peterson from

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<v Speaker 1>go the cops if they thought it was him out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>They played a great role. They did.

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<v Speaker 1>They they did not let on for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you watch all the documentaries, you see

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<v Speaker 1>that the way that they treated him and the way

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<v Speaker 1>they treated him in public, this wasn't a case of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that was sandbagged out of the gate and that

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<v Speaker 1>they just didn't focus on anything else. I mean, Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Gerregis floated the idea of the band of gypsies going

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<v Speaker 1>through Modesto, Like if you're a gypsy, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Modesto, come on, you go to the coast.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I mean, it's just crazy that they're

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<v Speaker 1>still throwing this stuff out there. And you can we

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<v Speaker 1>saw with Menanda's brothers. You enough time goes by, you

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<v Speaker 1>can throw out whatever narrative you want.

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<v Speaker 3>It's easy to forget what that we were.

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<v Speaker 2>There, Yeah, who saw everything that was going on.

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<v Speaker 4>The two things or two of the things that they've

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<v Speaker 4>also claimed is that they have scientific evidence that shows

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<v Speaker 4>the date of death of the unborn child later than

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<v Speaker 4>what was claimed at trial. How that changes it, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't quite understand. Then an expert in water movement would

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<v Speaker 4>be able to prove that Lacy Peterson's body was not

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<v Speaker 4>dumped where police said it was in December of two

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<v Speaker 4>thousand and five.

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<v Speaker 1>That goes back to the expert witness boondoggle that exists

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<v Speaker 1>in this country for both sides, prosecution and defense attorneys,

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<v Speaker 1>when they hire whoever they can hire to say exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what they want them to say. And it happens every day,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundreds and thousands of times over and guess what

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<v Speaker 1>you're all paying for it. We're paying crazy amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>money for the state or defense attorneys in some cases

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in these expert witnesses to say, well, based

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<v Speaker 1>on my experience in my school, again, yes, I did

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<v Speaker 1>go to seventeen colleges and I have seventeen advanced degrees,

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<v Speaker 1>and absolutely her body was in the water for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>for the X amount of time. For every guy that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to get up there and say that you can

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<v Speaker 1>find another guy or girl says, well, for my seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>degrees and my seventeen you know whatever accolades, there absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>was no way she was in the water for more

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<v Speaker 1>than two days, you know what I mean. Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just everyone has bought and sold.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is why now it's very common for attorneys to

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<v Speaker 4>ask those witnesses how much are you getting paid?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>How much you're getting paid to be here?

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<v Speaker 1>They have to and I don't know. None of that

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<v Speaker 1>testimony ever means. It just crosses each other out both sides.

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<v Speaker 4>Our food is different, and one of the things that

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<v Speaker 4>RFK Junior says he wants to do is phase out

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<v Speaker 4>some food dies that are in a bunch of our foods,

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<v Speaker 4>unnecessary food dies. By the way, we'll talk about that

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<v Speaker 4>we come back. Catafalk fulk fock fuck, he says it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, doesn't pronounce the L no. I do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>It's my style, it's your thing.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 5>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Good news on Wall Street, where stocks are surging after

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<v Speaker 1>the Dow closed almost one thousand points lower yesterday, Today's

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<v Speaker 1>jump half and after Bloomberg reported sources said Treasury Secretary

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Bessent told a group of investors that a trade

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<v Speaker 1>war with China is unsustainable. I mean, it's obvious, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's good that somebody in the circle knows it right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Dow has been up over one thousand points at times.

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<v Speaker 1>The S and P five hundred and the Nasdaq have

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<v Speaker 1>both been over two percent as well.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things that RFK Junior said when he

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<v Speaker 4>was running for president and then when he joined forces

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<v Speaker 4>with President Trump is he wanted to change the way

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<v Speaker 4>we eat, not just the kinds of foods we eat,

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<v Speaker 4>but the food that we eat. And significantly, the first

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<v Speaker 4>thing that he wants to do is direct food manufacturers

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<v Speaker 4>to phase out specific food dyes that are found in

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of grocery store foods, for example, eight petroleum

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<v Speaker 4>based food dies. I FDA regulates about eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 4>the food that we eat, and they banned red dye

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<v Speaker 4>three just before Trump took office. Studies connected it to

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<v Speaker 4>cancer in lab animals. That followed our law, the one

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<v Speaker 4>here in California, they called it the Skittle Law at the.

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<v Speaker 3>Time that would ban red dye number three. The eight

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<v Speaker 3>dies that.

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<v Speaker 4>Healthy Human Service to Secretary Kennedy wants to phase out

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<v Speaker 4>are used within the United States, but they are but

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<v Speaker 4>products made for the European markets do not use them,

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<v Speaker 4>and if they do, they must add a warning to

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<v Speaker 4>the label. Canadian markets already use natural color substitutes. The

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<v Speaker 4>event today is supposed to be an approval of additional

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<v Speaker 4>natural dyes that you can put in. As an example,

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<v Speaker 4>the red the reds that we see in some of

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<v Speaker 4>our foods, whether it's candy or other things like that,

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<v Speaker 4>is often a petroleum based dye.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that in Canada, fruit Loops gets its bright

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<v Speaker 1>colors from blueberries and carrots instead of red number forty,

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<v Speaker 1>yellow number five, and blue number one in the American version.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Pepsi, General Millshin Craft, Hinds. They have all said

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<v Speaker 4>there isn't enough science that connects ingredients with how with

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<v Speaker 4>health outcomes. The FDA has long maintained that most children

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<v Speaker 4>don't have adverse effects from eating food. Dice gonna repeat that.

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<v Speaker 4>The Food and Drug Administration, the government agency that's responsible

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<v Speaker 4>for safety of our food supply, says most kids don't

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<v Speaker 4>have a problem with it, then.

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<v Speaker 2>Why have it at all?

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<v Speaker 4>Right, If even if some kids have a problem with it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna have people who are I guess allergic to

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<v Speaker 4>blueberries or carrots maybe, but nowhere near as many as

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<v Speaker 4>people are going to be allergic to petroleum based food

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<v Speaker 4>dies it it doesn't make sense, and people want to

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<v Speaker 4>You want to protest against RFK Junior.

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<v Speaker 3>You think he's a whack job. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the common sense kind of stuff that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just going to say when you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>Kellogg or whatever the company general mills Heinz, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yaki yak, yak yak. It's common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and if food dies common sense, that can't be good.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and it's a kind of it's them splitting hairs

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<v Speaker 4>when they say that there's no evidence. Our FDA will

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<v Speaker 4>not take European scientist's word for it. Our FDA says,

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<v Speaker 4>if we're going to ban something, we need to have

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<v Speaker 4>an American lab do the same test to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that it's good or bad or vice vera whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because the FDA doesn't get paid by scientists

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<v Speaker 1>in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>They get paid by those.

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<v Speaker 1>Labs in America to say whatever they want them to say,

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<v Speaker 1>just like expert witnesses Ken Paxton.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, the Texas Attorney General, I think is

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<v Speaker 4>going to be running for governor, has said that his

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<v Speaker 4>office open an investigation into Kellogg because they market their

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<v Speaker 4>products as healthy with no actual evidence that it is healthy,

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe even some evidence that is that would show

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<v Speaker 4>that it is not healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>So take my food dies. I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>I broiled salmon last night and I used a Tazeki

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<v Speaker 1>sauce on it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a New York Times recipe today for a Greek

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<v Speaker 4>yogurt on top of your Greek yogurt marinade for your.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam because they listened to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how they did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they listened to the show and then they printed

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<v Speaker 1>the article this morning or last night.

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<v Speaker 2>We say it on the air, we did, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if we did. I don't know. You had salmon anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>said I love Juseki on it. Yeah. I actually just.

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<v Speaker 1>Put a little oil, salt and pepper. It didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>even need it. It was delicious with just that four

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<v Speaker 1>minutes in that broiler man boom and easiest way I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever made salmon. It's good too, My goodness, it was delicious.

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<v Speaker 5>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Karen Bass stayed in the city yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>She has said she is she's hopeful, except for the

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen hundred people that she's gonna have to lay off

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<v Speaker 4>outside of that for all other four.

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<v Speaker 3>Million people in the city. She's she's pretty hopeful.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about it when we come back to Gary

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<v Speaker 2>and Shannon.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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<v Speaker 4>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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