Speaker 1: Bring a new sponsor on FTP. We have Bighorn Golfer
Speaker 1: dot com and want to suck less at golf. Get
Speaker 1: yourself a full swing kit launch monitor. Don't take it
Speaker 1: from me, I'm not on tour anymore. Take it from
Speaker 1: the goat Tiger Woods. He put his name on it,
Speaker 1: so you know it's got to be the shit. While
Speaker 1: you're there, check out their top of the line of
Speaker 1: electric push carts to my country clubbers. Make the boys
Speaker 1: at the club jealous. Get your ass on one of
Speaker 1: those badass golf scooters. They sell hunting bikes too. It
Speaker 1: is a perfect FTP fit. That's Bighorn Golfer dot com.
Speaker 2: Hey, this is Travis Miller, creator of PJ Memes. I've
Speaker 2: been all over the place. I hungover drinking my coffee.
Speaker 2: Don't know why I made the decision to come onto
Speaker 2: this podcast, but hey, let's jump right in. Let's talk
Speaker 2: some shit, let's have a good day.
Speaker 1: And we can't let that happen. We just can't let
Speaker 1: that happen on this podcast because we are for the people.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day. The guy's a hell
Speaker 2: of a player. Beyond nails.
Speaker 1: That is the hardest. Part three of the PJ organ
Speaker 1: it's a hybrid three iired or four iron.
Speaker 3: Every day it's for the People. You were the last
Speaker 3: group off off a split t horseshoe on number ten
Speaker 3: and you do a happy gill work.
Speaker 1: What the hell's wrong with that? Well, it's another episode
Speaker 1: of Four of the People. We have had four co
Speaker 1: hosts in a row. Now, that's probably a record for
Speaker 1: this podcast.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We haven't looked it up. We don't look up things.
Speaker 1: We're not a stat statistics pod. No facts here. But
Speaker 1: we have Travis Miller from PGA Memes. If you've seen
Speaker 1: a funny meme in the last three, four or five years,
Speaker 1: it probably came from this guy, especially if you saw
Speaker 1: a golf meme. Travis Miller has been what you've been
Speaker 1: all with four or five states in the last week.
Speaker 1: And he joins us hungover maybe something at his coffee,
Speaker 1: We're not sure, but Travis Miller, PGA Memes on Four
Speaker 1: of the People.
Speaker 2: Cheers boys, I'm glad to be on here. Long overdue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just talking about it and you were
Speaker 1: at Tory Pines doing all this stuff. Everybody, you know,
Speaker 1: if you follow for the People, you probably follow PGA
Speaker 1: memes that go hand in hand. You're also one of
Speaker 1: your sponsors, Pins and ASA's sponsored spun thored the pod
Speaker 1: in our early days, right, that was like first first
Speaker 1: few episodes, but went you went to Tory filled a
Speaker 1: bunch of content, then you went straight to Taylor Guc's house. Dude,
Speaker 1: what's it like just jet setting all over the world
Speaker 1: and then trying to leave it lead a normal life
Speaker 1: at home.
Speaker 2: It's been pretty incredible. Man. I had a demanding job
Speaker 2: forever and uh got into golf because of that job,
Speaker 2: and then now to be able to do this, I mean,
Speaker 2: I still like to bring that comedy aspect to golf
Speaker 2: through memes. I love memes. I love them. Before PJ
Speaker 2: memes started, i'd I'd be on the road, like looking
Speaker 2: at my phone and just start laughing out loud. It's
Speaker 2: something that related to my life, and i'd, you know,
Speaker 2: you share it with like twenty people, you know, and
Speaker 2: then I'm like, hey, there's nothing in golf like this.
Speaker 2: But to turn it into kind of what I've done now,
Speaker 2: and I have the media side of my company where
Speaker 2: I will work with players and great different stuff for them,
Speaker 2: it's pretty nuts, man. It's I do find myself like
Speaker 2: pinching myself every week, like all right, hey, I'm walking
Speaker 2: nine holes right now with Jason Day and Reggie Bush
Speaker 2: and talking to John Ram on the putting green for
Speaker 2: thirty minutes. I'm like, this is nuts, man. Let me
Speaker 2: go make a meme real quick and come back. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like, while, what.
Speaker 1: Did you do before you started PGA memes?
Speaker 2: So right in college, I was a broke college student.
Speaker 2: I was trying to make it in baseball actually, and
Speaker 2: I got injured, and all my roommates for football players
Speaker 2: and all were Mormon guys because my dad transferred for
Speaker 2: work from Los Angeles to Park City. So when I
Speaker 2: was going to college in Utah, was all these Mormon
Speaker 2: guys that came home from their missions. And one of
Speaker 2: them came home one night was like, hey, like bet
Speaker 2: my buddy made two hundred and fifty grand selling alarm
Speaker 2: systems last summer. He's like, he's doing a party tonight
Speaker 2: to recruit some guys to come with them. Do you
Speaker 2: want to go? And I had twenty bucks. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm eighteen years old. I had twenty dollars in my pocket.
Speaker 2: I wanted pizza and two hundred fifty grand sounded interesting
Speaker 2: to me, but I didn't know about selling alarms. So
Speaker 2: we went all nine of us signed up that night,
Speaker 2: and we packed our bags moved to Chicago for the summer,
Speaker 2: and I ended up being the top first year rep
Speaker 2: in the company made I didn't two hundred fifty grand,
Speaker 2: but I made six figures selling alarms. And I'll tell
Speaker 2: you it was like the best thing ever for me
Speaker 2: because I learned a lot about like life and discipline
Speaker 2: and just you know, just like a bunch of Auden
Speaker 2: stuff like credit, balancing your finances and just like interacting
Speaker 2: with people, taking rejection and stuff. And my best friend's
Speaker 2: dad start wanting to start a company and he let
Speaker 2: me be a part of like the beginning of that,
Speaker 2: and so we started our own alarm dealership. Became the
Speaker 2: fifth largest ADT dealership in the country. And uh, after
Speaker 2: like five years, we transitioned to commercial security. And all
Speaker 2: all security is boring as hell, by the way, and
Speaker 2: so I mean, we're recruiting reps and selling and there's
Speaker 2: a lot of money in it, but I'm not loving it.
Speaker 2: And we went to commercial security. I was looking for
Speaker 2: something else and the company we were selling contracts to
Speaker 2: was located in Dallas now Brings Home Security, and they
Speaker 2: recruited me to go over and run their national dealer program,
Speaker 2: and I took the job, And honestly, that's what got
Speaker 2: me into golf, folks. I had to start doing all
Speaker 2: that client golf that you see like Who's Golf, fining
Speaker 2: and dining, and so I got to play some of
Speaker 2: the best courses in the world on someone else's pocket
Speaker 2: and got to just meet a bunch of cool people golfing.
Speaker 2: And I sucked because I was a baseball player. I
Speaker 2: still suck, but it was Uh. I saw golf for
Speaker 2: what it is, man Like, you go out with your
Speaker 2: buddies and you talk shit and you bet, you drink
Speaker 2: and you have fun. Uh you know, you birdie the
Speaker 2: last toll. You want to come back and play again?
Speaker 2: Like I mean, I just I had so much fun.
Speaker 2: I got addicted. But when I saw it on TV,
Speaker 2: I never really was interested in golf. I thought was
Speaker 2: really boring, and I thought a lot of the players
Speaker 2: didn't have any personality at all. And what I learned
Speaker 2: after knowing a lot of them and getting to know
Speaker 2: a lot of them, they do there's a lot of
Speaker 2: great dudes out there that are funny, and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of them that aren't that funny and they're dicks.
Speaker 2: But you know, if they don't have the opportunity, they're
Speaker 2: playing for a lot of money, they're playing for world
Speaker 2: ranking points. When they come off the course, the questions
Speaker 2: they ask are stale. It's the same same stuff every time.
Speaker 2: Answers are the same thing. So it's like it's easy
Speaker 2: to not dive and immerse yourself into golf from the
Speaker 2: professional level, you know, if you haven't got out there
Speaker 2: and played on the local munis or played with your buddies.
Speaker 2: So that job really opened the door for some cool
Speaker 2: things for me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know what you did in the process of
Speaker 1: all of this and the in the process of going
Speaker 1: from a security salesman alarm system to PGA memes, you
Speaker 1: sent Smiley Kaufman into retirement.
Speaker 2: So you sent.
Speaker 1: Smiley Smiley to the booth single. You single handedly sent
Speaker 1: him to retirement. Why are you picking on my boy.
Speaker 2: Smiley so much back in the day, man, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you I do have some regrets.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I'll say that I have some regrets because I'm not
Speaker 2: a bad guy. Man, I'm not and I've I've made
Speaker 2: amends with everybody except for Smiley, because dude, I've had
Speaker 2: a couple of people that hated me and have come
Speaker 2: at me hard and we're cool now we're good. But Smiley,
Speaker 2: him and I have never spoke. I feel like Speeth
Speaker 2: and JT, like like JT followed me for a while
Speaker 2: and then when he had his his F word moment
Speaker 2: in Hawaii, I made a couple of funny memes about
Speaker 2: it with the office clips and stuff, and I thought
Speaker 2: they were great. They were really funny, funny memes, some
Speaker 2: of the best ones ever and followed me unfortunately after that.
Speaker 2: But soft, like that little click, I've not been able
Speaker 2: to like really do much with that click because of
Speaker 2: my Smiley interactions. Like Ricky and I are cool, but
Speaker 2: like just I don't know. One day I'd like to
Speaker 2: talk to Smiley. Dude. He's doing good on the booth though, man,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: He has found all Yeah, yeah, you look like a hero.
Speaker 3: You look like a hero at this point. Man, you
Speaker 3: put him in the booth, he could be one of
Speaker 3: the best analysts ever. That's that's the hard thing about
Speaker 3: golf too. It's like, I mean, it's a little more
Speaker 3: chill when you're out there, like on a nice course
Speaker 3: PGA tour course, but that's their work. So like guys
Speaker 3: on the course and off the course, like Pete will
Speaker 3: tell you it is, it is way different. Like some
Speaker 3: dudes on the course are just like I mean, you
Speaker 3: think they've probably killed people in their spare time because
Speaker 3: they act like such assholes on the course, but really
Speaker 3: they're the nicest guys ever. Like they're the guys who
Speaker 3: want to drink, hang out with whatever. You hate playing
Speaker 3: golf with him, you freaking hate it. Then there's the opposite,
Speaker 3: like like slow dudes. Slow dudes are so nice on
Speaker 3: the course because if you're slow and you're like, you're
Speaker 3: the worst person on the planet, like no one would
Speaker 3: want to even play golf with you ever again. But
Speaker 3: off the course, you're like, this guy's so nice, he's
Speaker 3: always such a dick. I don't want to see this
Speaker 3: guy ever off the course. So it's kind of hard
Speaker 3: to size up. That's what dude, That's what I was wondering,
Speaker 3: because at some point you're gonna run its course where
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna light everybody up at some point.
Speaker 3: Is there anybody that that is like personally, you feel
Speaker 3: his off limits. Like I got to watch myself with
Speaker 3: this guy just a little bit, just just because I
Speaker 3: know I might want to be boys with him one day.
Speaker 2: No, man, I mean I agree. Like when I first
Speaker 2: got into golf, like Ricky was my favorite player and
Speaker 2: the reason why reason what that was was like I
Speaker 2: said I wasn't a golfer, and I was in my
Speaker 2: office one day. We shared this big room and I
Speaker 2: don't got a buddy named Tim. That was like just
Speaker 2: talking about Ricky Faler about wearing all orange or like
Speaker 2: the crazy colors and the long hair. He's like, dude,
Speaker 2: there's this like motocross kid who's such a good golfer
Speaker 2: and he's like fun to water on PGA touries. Like
Speaker 2: it's like unbelievable to see him out there like paired
Speaker 2: with Tiger. Yeah, you know, he's like it just doesn't
Speaker 2: look right, but he goes it's cool to see and
Speaker 2: I remember, like, what are you talking about? Checking it out?
Speaker 2: And it was kind of right when I was starting
Speaker 2: to get into it, So I like gravitated towards that.
Speaker 2: I thought it was really unique. It stood out, it
Speaker 2: was interesting. He held himself pretty well, and he still
Speaker 2: does hold himself together really well, and so I just
Speaker 2: a'm like, that's my guy. You know, I love Ricky
Speaker 2: Faler and even him though man big jokes about. I
Speaker 2: Mean Ricky, Sure, he broke through and won the Big
Speaker 2: One with the players credible back nine, you know, and
Speaker 2: that was one way that shut a lot of people up.
Speaker 2: But you know, he had a really hard time getting
Speaker 2: over the top and the majors. He got real close
Speaker 2: that one year where he was top five and all four,
Speaker 2: and now he's in some you know, a major slump.
Speaker 2: And I've grown sensitive to guys who struggle that are
Speaker 2: good dudes, Like, because the golf is personal. You know,
Speaker 2: if I'm NFL memes or NBA memes, I can make
Speaker 2: fun one of the Cleveland Browns for sucking forever, you know,
Speaker 2: and like then you can personally attack to Sean Watson
Speaker 2: for all his massage mishaps and uh, you know, being
Speaker 2: a sexual predator or whatever. Like you know, it's like
Speaker 2: some of that stuff, it's like, Okay, you could drill
Speaker 2: down on the city, the team, and then player that
Speaker 2: deserves it. With golf, it's like I'm going out, Smiley,
Speaker 2: It's I'm going right at Smiley and I get it. Man,
Speaker 2: golf is a grind. You can be on top of
Speaker 2: your game and then one thing flips and you can't
Speaker 2: figure it out and mentally you're just screwed and and
Speaker 2: then all you need is a meme page just pounding
Speaker 2: on you and all these people like that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: I look back and I'm like, dude, I could I've
Speaker 2: done some things differently. Absolutely, you know, dude, he only
Speaker 2: got pissed at me one time, though, like publicly.
Speaker 1: You got mad at you. Oh dude, hey, yeah, we
Speaker 1: need that story. Yeah, he probably was.
Speaker 2: Like twenty natties deep, dude, and came at me in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night. It was like it was
Speaker 2: I found a picture, like, dude, this is one of
Speaker 2: the funny things about making memes is finding pictures that like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that will just be like, oh, this is perfect. And
Speaker 2: I just got done watching like Wolf of Wall Street
Speaker 2: for like the sixth time, and the scene where McConaughey
Speaker 2: is like how many times you jerk off a day?
Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't know. It was a rookie numbers.
Speaker 2: You gotta step it up, right. So I find a
Speaker 2: picture of smiley, and is this is at his wedding
Speaker 2: and his bride is like reading like her vows to
Speaker 2: him or whatever, and so but the picture is like
Speaker 2: he's like like dialed in listening to her. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously it's the best, most special moment of their lives
Speaker 2: together as a couple. But he's like adamantly listening to her.
Speaker 2: And so I make that meme and she's like, and
Speaker 2: I go for reviewing his scorecard. These are rookie numbers.
Speaker 2: You need to step it up, which was like funny
Speaker 2: to tell, like it's a great meme, but it's like
Speaker 2: a very intimate, special, private moment. And I found the
Speaker 2: picture on Google Images, you know, and he's and he
Speaker 2: just like, listen, hey, pro like he calls it pro hey, pro, Like, dude,
Speaker 2: I love the memes, love what you do, but pro like,
Speaker 2: you got to leave my wife, my family out of it,
Speaker 2: like you didn't just and he's right. I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: you're right. Man. I'm like, yeah, yes, I got it. There.
Speaker 2: I gotta not do that. That's crossing the line. And
Speaker 2: I took it down. It was only up for like
Speaker 2: an hour, and I think there was a miscommunication. I mean,
Speaker 2: I might have even stepped out and been like, dude, I'll, i'll,
Speaker 2: you know, take it easy on you, But I feel bad.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't gonna like stop making jokes about him
Speaker 2: or other players, like it's what I'm supposed to do
Speaker 2: with PGA memes. But you know, I know that over time,
Speaker 2: it just was. It got to the point where I
Speaker 2: was beating a dead horse. And even people that were
Speaker 2: commenting are like, hey, dude, like Smiley's it's done.
Speaker 1: You've killed you have killed him, You've totally killed him.
Speaker 2: He's dead.
Speaker 1: He's like in his coffin already. He's hell of an announcer.
Speaker 1: So great job you did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he came at me. Lee Westwood came at me
Speaker 2: publicly in the comments.
Speaker 1: What did he say?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: I'm sure that meme was fantastic, Lee Westwood. There's just
Speaker 1: tons of ships you could post about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, this one I've shared a couple of times,
Speaker 2: but it's such a great story. Man. He there was
Speaker 2: a picture of him and Luke Donald like I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's a practice round or in a regular round,
Speaker 2: but I photoshopped Tiger like poking up over a bunker
Speaker 2: like a lip of a bunker and I'm like, wow, look,
Speaker 2: fifteen majors in one picture, and like Lee, just within
Speaker 2: five minutes, Lee commented on there like all real funny
Speaker 2: coming from a bloke that lives in his mom's basement
Speaker 2: with a tiny penis, And I'm like, dude, this is
Speaker 2: the best thing you ever like want to react. I
Speaker 2: want a good reaction, right, And I was like, this
Speaker 2: is unbelievable. So half the people are like on team Lee,
Speaker 2: like yeah, f PJ memes, you probably couldn't even you know,
Speaker 2: break a hundred, you know. And then there's half the
Speaker 2: people that are like Lee, like quipping a bit, You're
Speaker 2: never gonna win a major. And so I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: well I don't want people pouncing on Lee, Like I'm like,
Speaker 2: I already did the joke. But it kind of when
Speaker 2: guys react that way, at least in my beginning days,
Speaker 2: like it made me feel the fire, Like it made
Speaker 2: me want to create more memes about that person because
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, this obviously irked them, so let's
Speaker 2: let's go ahead and turn the knife just a little
Speaker 2: bit more, you know, like let's let's fuck with them
Speaker 2: a little bit more. And like it was it was fun.
Speaker 2: But like Michelle Wee, for instance, I made a meme
Speaker 2: of her. It was like a giraffe bent over drinking
Speaker 2: out of a river, and I was like, that looks
Speaker 2: like her putting stance table right. She commented on there,
Speaker 2: She's like, oh my gosh, this is the funniest thing
Speaker 2: I've ever seen. I hate you. And like everyone commented
Speaker 2: on that, like, oh, Michelle, You're so cool. You can
Speaker 2: make fun of yourself and you know, and like behind
Speaker 2: the scenes she's still been She's cool, and like I
Speaker 2: wasn't trying to be a dick about it, just it
Speaker 2: was funny. It looked just like her tabletop putting stands,
Speaker 2: which was a terrible look. But Lee, I had to
Speaker 2: I flew to Abu Dhabi before like the COVID world
Speaker 2: shut down, and I I was on the t box
Speaker 2: interviewing players and doing content and Lee was in the
Speaker 2: field and I'm like, oh god them this one.
Speaker 1: Did they recognize you? Like do all the players know
Speaker 1: who you are now when you're out there?
Speaker 2: Like are you that now? They now they do because
Speaker 2: of the home course stuff or whatever, But like before that, no,
Speaker 2: not so much. Maybe a couple guys, but like I.
Speaker 1: So Lee didn't know who you were standing on the
Speaker 1: T box. You saw some random fan with a phone
Speaker 1: and a microphone.
Speaker 2: It's just like yeah, so that's what I assumed. Like
Speaker 2: when I went to Abu Dhabi, they were they were like,
Speaker 2: I mean, there's like there's quite a few American players
Speaker 2: that play there, but there's like a couple that are
Speaker 2: always like paid. The paid players that year was kept
Speaker 2: because he was world number one, and then Bryson and
Speaker 2: then Patrick Cantley or the three paid guys that were
Speaker 2: like big names, I guess, and then there was a
Speaker 2: bunch of other like Americans. Then a lot of European
Speaker 2: tour players believe it or not. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was you or if it was Graham McDow or
Speaker 2: like the one and two first like pro golfers that
Speaker 2: followed p Jammes. And then then there was a lot
Speaker 2: of like European players like that were just dying laughing
Speaker 2: like because they I felt like a lot of them
Speaker 2: had their perception and what they thought of some American players,
Speaker 2: and so they would just comment in the DMS, and
Speaker 2: you know, and a lot of wives, a lot of caddies,
Speaker 2: and a lot of players would privately in the DMS,
Speaker 2: they try to give me in thrower tell me like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right about this, like keep making jokes about this,
Speaker 2: like that guy's a dick or you know. And so
Speaker 2: it was pretty funny to see that. But no one
Speaker 2: knew who I was or my face or anything. And
Speaker 2: Abu Dhabi there was maybe a few like Bryson knew
Speaker 2: who I was a couple of people, But when I'm
Speaker 2: out there, I'm like, I don't think he knows who
Speaker 2: I am. And I'm like, I'm not quite sure how
Speaker 2: I address that. And his group's coming up, and I'm
Speaker 2: a little like, I know he's not gonna like beat
Speaker 2: my ass or anything like that or like try to
Speaker 2: start a fight, but at the same time, I'm a
Speaker 2: little nervous about meeting him and just like squashing this
Speaker 2: beef and I'm trying to think of how I'm going
Speaker 2: to address it. But we just dive into it. Like
Speaker 2: the camera guy that was there was like he was
Speaker 2: like the man. He would be like, hey, real quick,
Speaker 2: Sergia or Lee or whoever, can we just ask a
Speaker 2: few questions for social media, like nothing about p jamimes, right,
Speaker 2: So he's like all, right, of course, so he comes
Speaker 2: over and ask him like five questions or something, and
Speaker 2: he did a great job and it was funny. We
Speaker 2: both were laughing about it. And then when it ended,
Speaker 2: I just like shook his hand and kind of grabbed
Speaker 2: on and I'm like, by the way, I'm like, I'm PJ.
Speaker 2: Means like I'm the guy who runs that account, and
Speaker 2: he goes, I know who you are, man, and he's like,
Speaker 2: how's your mom doing? Like just like we both like
Speaker 2: we're dying laughing. And then since then, like him and
Speaker 2: I've been pretty close, Like we actually got hammered together
Speaker 2: at the Durrel Live event. Uh Like it was like
Speaker 2: Wednesday night. We're in the lobby at the Trump Moral
Speaker 2: just getting hammered in Lee Westwoods there. I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is full circle right here.
Speaker 1: For sure. That's it, dude.
Speaker 3: I think I think Lee like rabbit He it seems
Speaker 3: like he rabbit holes himself a little bit in comments
Speaker 3: because you know, he probably likes to booze it, so
Speaker 3: all of his comments they'll be like I think booze driven,
Speaker 3: like after hours and he'll just comment on his own
Speaker 3: either tweets or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you gotta appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Just just yeah, just introduce your gut yourself as the
Speaker 3: guy that lives in his mom's case.
Speaker 2: I get that way now too, man, Like there's I
Speaker 2: hate people with some of their comments, and you just
Speaker 2: want to quickly say something, and like there's times I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm just gonna block this guy because he's
Speaker 2: a moron, you know, like there's no value in whatsoever
Speaker 2: having him ever be on this page again. And then
Speaker 2: there's times I'll comment something and then I like, a
Speaker 2: few hours later, I look at what that caused and
Speaker 2: I'm like, probably shouldn't have done that. But yeah, because
Speaker 2: you're never gonna win an argument about that on the internet.
Speaker 1: No, you're not.
Speaker 2: Never.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Sculfers are fragile too, man, They are so fragile.
Speaker 1: They're the most fragile athletes on earth. So how's the
Speaker 1: relationship between live and PGA Tour? So you do both,
Speaker 1: You're like one of the only ones that does content
Speaker 1: on the PGA tour, Like last week you're at Tory
Speaker 1: for a few days doing stuff and they don't obviously
Speaker 1: they want you there. And then live You're you're at
Speaker 1: the live events too, doing similar content. So how do
Speaker 1: you balance that?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 3: Like it?
Speaker 1: I feel as if it's a seesaw and the pendulums
Speaker 1: like this, they're fighting each other, but you're not fighting them.
Speaker 1: You seem to get along with both.
Speaker 2: How's that work? Yeah? Well, okay, So I'm glad you
Speaker 2: asked that question. This will be the first time they'll
Speaker 2: get publicly like just set it straight. But the PGA Tour,
Speaker 2: I don't know that they want me there, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, I don't. So. I own a company
Speaker 2: called five nine Media as well, and in that I
Speaker 2: represent brands and players, and one of the players that
Speaker 2: is on my roster that represent is Jason Day. And
Speaker 2: so I'm credentialed at the PJ Tour inside the ropes
Speaker 2: in the practice area to get content for Jason. And
Speaker 2: last year I was getting a lot of content with
Speaker 2: Ricky as well. And Ricky has a media company though himself,
Speaker 2: and so we're not going to be doing a lot
Speaker 2: with him this year. But like so I'm there, like
Speaker 2: in I'm like I'm there for like team Jason Day.
Speaker 2: I have been hired in the past to go to
Speaker 2: PJ Tour events, but it's not been with the tour.
Speaker 2: It's been with like the sponsor, so like CJ or
Speaker 2: bb go or Charles Swab. Shoot, there's a couple more
Speaker 2: at and t or something like that, may do something.
Speaker 2: But what's funny is like they come up with these
Speaker 2: grand plans of what they want to do and then
Speaker 2: they share that with the tour, and the tour is like, no,
Speaker 2: you can't, you can't do these things. Like a last event, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So the last time I got hired to go to
Speaker 2: a PJ Tour event was CJ Cup at Summit Club,
Speaker 2: so a little over a year ago, and they paid
Speaker 2: a lot of money, by the way, Like so I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on. And Jason played in that event.
Speaker 2: So it was like killing two birds with one stone.
Speaker 2: And then they hired a YouTube a two YouTube kids,
Speaker 2: and then another like Instagram guy. Okay, and so we
Speaker 2: kind of all knew each other and we go and
Speaker 2: you know, I got paid really good, and I'm I'm
Speaker 2: sure these YouTube kids got paid more than me. Well, anyways,
Speaker 2: I had all these plans, like I was gonna be
Speaker 2: at one of the tea boxes on Tuesday and we
Speaker 2: were going to play some games with some players and
Speaker 2: ask questions and make it comedy, lighthearted, nothing that would
Speaker 2: be inappropriate, something that a fourteen year old aspiring golfer
Speaker 2: would watch and laugh, you know, or a fifty year
Speaker 2: old guy like it was just funny stuff, and had
Speaker 2: a few other little things We're going to do with
Speaker 2: individual guys, and they literally shut everything down, Like the
Speaker 2: Friday before I was supposed to go, PJ Tour said, hey,
Speaker 2: with our media rights, we can't film things on the
Speaker 2: course with players. We can't. We can't do this, we
Speaker 2: can't do that. This is what you can't do. So
Speaker 2: this I literally then Bbgo and CJ Cup was livid,
Speaker 2: but they still paid me my fee, which I, you know,
Speaker 2: felt terrible about. I tried to do everything I could,
Speaker 2: So I went to the fan zone, which there were
Speaker 2: no fans there. Summit clubs behind two private gates. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a great field. It was a hell
Speaker 2: of a field, but like no fans were there. So
Speaker 2: I went to the fan zone to show everybody what
Speaker 2: I was about. I went to Bbgo's station, ate some
Speaker 2: of their food and shared what that was all about.
Speaker 2: And I did like a quick video at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the week, like with the driving range behind me,
Speaker 2: which I was like even worried about doing that right,
Speaker 2: and just talked about how strong the field was and
Speaker 2: if you're in Vegas or you close proximity, you should
Speaker 2: come out to the event and check it out get
Speaker 2: some tickets. Like so that's all I was able to do.
Speaker 2: But for me, like I I have a business background,
Speaker 2: and I also I'm not in this for just this
Speaker 2: overnight like sensation to make a quick buck. So like
Speaker 2: I went and like reached out to a couple of
Speaker 2: players who I'm friends with and like got content from
Speaker 2: them from their hotel room. See where it's safe, Like
Speaker 2: BJ Tour doesn't have rights to their fucking hotel room.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, so I went out of my way
Speaker 2: to go do that for bb GO and CJ Cup,
Speaker 2: which they were like super great, gracious for, but like
Speaker 2: that's the kind of stuff that's like it's terrible, it's ridiculous,
Speaker 2: you know, And like they just screwed over their sponsor
Speaker 2: where they probably paid like between everybody that they brought out,
Speaker 2: they probably paid one hundred grand and all that money
Speaker 2: was literally for waste in my opinion, because they brought
Speaker 2: out those like good good YouTube kids, their whole bit
Speaker 2: is to play on the course and shoot content and
Speaker 2: show people what that's all about. And they weren't even
Speaker 2: able to do that. So it's like, why are they there?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Well these are some archaic policies though, because when I
Speaker 1: did my Happy Gilmore in fifteen, I'm sure you know
Speaker 1: Drew Steckel, Sure you know Drew Drew filmed it. Drew
Speaker 1: filmed it on his cell phone. I told him. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm a happy Gilmour, this bitch right down
Speaker 1: the fairway over here off ten. You know, I'm in
Speaker 1: last place. Who gives a shit? He's like, no, you won't, Yes,
Speaker 1: I will get your phone out. So they announced me
Speaker 1: and I do it, and then I post it. And
Speaker 1: when I landed Abu dabby half halfway back to Fort Worth,
Speaker 1: I have one hundred and fifty text messages, phone calls
Speaker 1: everywhere from everyone, all the way as high as Tim Fincham.
Speaker 1: That was back when Fincham was a commissioner, and they
Speaker 1: were all pissed, you know, blah blah blah. Metea writes,
Speaker 1: you can't do that on our golf course. It's our
Speaker 1: golf course, you know, our media rights, blah blah, it's
Speaker 1: the same thing. This policies have been in effect forever,
Speaker 1: and they won't They just won't change in with the times.
Speaker 1: I guess since you've got so much acts with Live
Speaker 1: as well, you know your access with Live is probably unlimited.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure you could go to eny Hole
Speaker 1: until whatever, and once that they see that, you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to start adjusting some of this stuff
Speaker 1: because there's good Good guys. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: that that contract with I think they said with Callaway.
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, they signed a huge deal with Callaway, and
Speaker 2: I mean Callaway's listen. A lot of people are like,
Speaker 2: what the hell, Like it's a big deal, Like I
Speaker 2: bet that was a seven figure plus deal that they
Speaker 2: did with Good Good. The thing is with marketing, man,
Speaker 2: those kids get not only as Good Good, but individually
Speaker 2: they all get hundreds of thousands, millions of years per video.
Speaker 2: They're putting out multiple videos per week and they reach
Speaker 2: an odd demographic like to me, like, I can't even
Speaker 2: watch the PGA tour like done TV, like unless like
Speaker 2: I have a horse in the race or someone who
Speaker 2: I feel like there's almost a friend of mine now,
Speaker 2: Like I don't watch it, like I'll follow it on
Speaker 2: my phone. That's it. So like I won't watch a
Speaker 2: kid play golf on YouTube, Like I just can't understand that.
Speaker 2: But like people are just gung ho about that, And
Speaker 2: so I think it's a good move by Callaway. Taylor
Speaker 2: made signed a couple of guys too, and they're giving
Speaker 2: them access to their athletes, And I think it's a
Speaker 2: good win for that because they're they're athletes. As much
Speaker 2: as they might not want to do it, it's opening
Speaker 2: them up to a new demographic of fans and people.
Speaker 2: And like pip thing is real, Like last year through
Speaker 2: the efforts I've did with my media company, I mean
Speaker 2: j Day I started working with him. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: you're such a likable guy. You have a big social
Speaker 2: presence already. I'm like, but your social is terrible. Like
Speaker 2: all it is is like Astra Zeneca ads, Like you're
Speaker 2: not even posting anything about golf. You know, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing there? Right? He's like me, I
Speaker 2: don't do that, you know. He's like I just He's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. And then like the next
Speaker 2: day he's like, do you just want to do it?
Speaker 2: You know? Like, let's figure it out, and he literally was.
Speaker 2: We got him into the top twenty of the pip
Speaker 2: last year, which was the it was first top ten,
Speaker 2: I think the first year. Now it's top twenty to
Speaker 2: get paid. So he's eighteenth place and he got a
Speaker 2: two million dollar bonus for pipy.
Speaker 1: Damn good. Hey that was probably worth it for you, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like still ranked over one hundredth in
Speaker 2: the world. So it's like goes to show doing that
Speaker 2: stuff is certainly worth your your time and you know,
Speaker 2: your investment and stuff like that. But it's just it's
Speaker 2: crazy how the PGA Tour saw our caic with stuff.
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you, like my badge this year and
Speaker 2: now have a pee on it so I can go
Speaker 2: into the practice area. Last year I couldn't. So that's
Speaker 2: a big stet you. Yeah. But even like so, like
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush was out there and we share the say
Speaker 2: like he has his agent, but he also has like
Speaker 2: a guy that reps me that in the golf business
Speaker 2: that he's also helping Reggie a little bit because Reggie's
Speaker 2: really obsessed with golf and I shot. So when I
Speaker 2: was out there, my agent was like, hey, can you
Speaker 2: help get some content for Reggie, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, I'm like, I'm there for Jason if
Speaker 2: I if I have time and it works out, I
Speaker 2: will for sure. Well turned out they played together, so
Speaker 2: I was like, well, shit, this is easy. And so
Speaker 2: I was like being very careful because even Reggie, who's
Speaker 2: probably the like arguably one of the best, if not
Speaker 2: the best college football player ever in like a football legend, like,
Speaker 2: and Jason and him were interacting like awesome the whole time.
Speaker 2: Jason's giving him tips and they're you know, good back
Speaker 2: and forth. I'm being careful as I shoot Reggie because
Speaker 2: he has rules, like he can't post certain things for
Speaker 2: him to share. But at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, people who follow Reggie Bush like they like
Speaker 2: worship Reggie Bush, they love Reggie Bush and like and
Speaker 2: also there may be some people who follow Reggie that
Speaker 2: never thought about getting into golf, but they could see
Speaker 2: that Reggie's obviously addicted to it, so he can bring
Speaker 2: in a ton of new people into the sport. And
Speaker 2: like it's just ridiculous, but like we were able to
Speaker 2: cut something up that I thought was good that he posted.
Speaker 2: But like at the end of the day. It's like
Speaker 2: the PGM tour needs to think bigger, you know, they
Speaker 2: need to think like, how can we let these athletes
Speaker 2: or these creators come in and give them what they
Speaker 2: need to do, Because what's going on on a Tuesday
Speaker 2: at Tory Pines that's going to impact your media rights.
Speaker 1: Right, Let's be real here, Like, let's be real. It's
Speaker 1: the worst day of the week on tour, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the worst day of the week. It
Speaker 1: was always the most boring, and they had a huge opera.
Speaker 1: They have a huge opportunity to really see let let
Speaker 1: the world see these guys for their personalities on Tuesdays,
Speaker 1: because you know, that's why at augustin Nashnal, most people
Speaker 1: like Tuesday as the best day because they can actually
Speaker 1: get autographs, talk to the players. They're hitting a shitload
Speaker 1: of shots from all over the place. They're going up
Speaker 1: to the fans and interacting. Tuesday's the best day at
Speaker 1: the Masters really is by a lot of people's way out.
Speaker 1: So Tuesdays on the PGA tour have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: be the same thing. But with all of the killer
Speaker 1: archaic policies they have with their Media Rights. It sounds
Speaker 1: as if it'll never be that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's moving slowly. They did
Speaker 2: some stuff last year in the FedEx Cup playoffs, and
Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, well, it's obviously because of
Speaker 2: what Lib's doing, but they let guys go into the
Speaker 2: press conference that are like creators or comedians. They let
Speaker 2: some guys do YouTube videos during practice rounds or even
Speaker 2: play like the Monday after and do some cool stuff
Speaker 2: and gave them primo access, and like, you don't need
Speaker 2: to pay some of these creators to go do some
Speaker 2: of this stuff. Giving someone a platform or access is
Speaker 2: good enough. It really is, because then it gives you,
Speaker 2: as a creator or as a brand, credibility with your
Speaker 2: audience to know like, well, hey, you're not just going
Speaker 2: with your friends to like Bridlewood and Flower Mountain to
Speaker 2: go play golf every week, like you're actually on East
Speaker 2: Lake and you're talking to Zandershopley or you're playing around
Speaker 2: with Harry Higgs or some I don't know, like it's something,
Speaker 2: but they're slowly getting there. But like with Live, Greg
Speaker 2: and I've done content before Live happened and he was great,
Speaker 2: Like I can't explain it like he was great. Him
Speaker 2: and I clicked and did really like well together, and
Speaker 2: we cultivated a little bit of a friendship. And from
Speaker 2: what I've heard, like a lot of people have been
Speaker 2: like they like, Greg's one of those guys either like
Speaker 2: him or you don't like him, Like there's really no
Speaker 2: middle ground with Greg. But him and I clicked right
Speaker 2: from the beginning, and so he was like I apparently
Speaker 2: from what he said, I was one of the first
Speaker 2: people he called when the league was when he signed
Speaker 2: as a CEO and commissioner, and he's like he basically
Speaker 2: told me, He's like, this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: I'd love for you to be a part of it
Speaker 2: and give you the access you need. He goes, You're
Speaker 2: obviously a big platform, you know, and you toe the
Speaker 2: line of you know, golf media and stuff, and I
Speaker 2: think it could be fun, and we'll give you the
Speaker 2: access you need to create stuff with players and be
Speaker 2: a part of the movement and stuff. Like I get it.
Speaker 2: You probably still want to do stuff with the tour,
Speaker 2: and I get it, like this is just this is
Speaker 2: just golf and good for the game, and you do
Speaker 2: what you want to do and so I didn't take
Speaker 2: one dollar from Live last year, like yeah, and so
Speaker 2: people think I'm like sitting on a bucket of blood
Speaker 2: money over here or whatever, but no, I did not
Speaker 2: get paid one dollar. They did pay for some travel
Speaker 2: for me to fly to places, and I'm grateful for it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I got to go to the first London event,
Speaker 2: and I did not know what to expect. A lot
Speaker 2: of players who I've become friends with, you know, are
Speaker 2: what they call defectors or villains or whatever, went over there,
Speaker 2: and so it was a safe place for me too
Speaker 2: because I knew I knew a lot of people. And
Speaker 2: I went to the London event and I was pretty
Speaker 2: I mean I was actually wildly impressed, like with how
Speaker 2: it looked and felt the energy, it.
Speaker 1: Was a vibe like it was.
Speaker 2: And then the fans there are different than American fans,
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you, like it was packed. I went
Speaker 2: to the fan zone. They had a ton of apparel.
Speaker 2: I didn't quite know what to make with the team
Speaker 2: names and all that stuff, and I still don't know,
Speaker 2: and I don't know what's going to be permanent or not.
Speaker 2: But all the merchant I sold out, Like I was
Speaker 2: like this isn't like I'm like, this is pretty pretty wild,
Speaker 2: you know, But to be there for the inaugural one
Speaker 2: thought was pretty cool. I think I ended up going
Speaker 2: to three more and I have a good relationship with
Speaker 2: the Trump family, so like I went to the ones
Speaker 2: that were at the Trump properties for sure, but they
Speaker 2: do they gave me all the acts I needed. I
Speaker 2: was inside the ropes not only in practice rounds, but
Speaker 2: I could go inside the ropes during tournament rounds I
Speaker 2: wanted to. I played in two pro ams, could have
Speaker 2: played in any problem that I wanted. I could go
Speaker 2: into the media center. I mean, I could you know,
Speaker 2: what kind of content do you want to create? Like
Speaker 2: they're looking to me for some ideas to get creative
Speaker 2: and stuff, and so like this year we're looking at
Speaker 2: other ideas of what we can do together for sure,
Speaker 2: and it's like I think it's been good for the game.
Speaker 2: Like I don't think they're trying to really make golf
Speaker 2: fans like golf more. I don't think they're trying like
Speaker 2: and obviously they would love to have more American fans
Speaker 2: move over to Live and or just like Live, But
Speaker 2: what I have seen are the people that don't know
Speaker 2: anything about golf or don't like golf or getting to
Speaker 2: golf live is very appealing and people worldwide in different countries.
Speaker 2: I think Live is going to be appealing and uh,
Speaker 2: you know interesting for those fans that come over. I
Speaker 2: think it's going to ultimately will grow the game in
Speaker 2: a way that maybe the PGA Tour can't or couldn't
Speaker 2: or isn't thinking about. But I like them both. Man,
Speaker 2: I'd love to be able to be that person who
Speaker 2: can do both and balance it out. But unfortunately, the
Speaker 2: way the world we live in today, it's super toxic.
Speaker 2: And so it's like Live in pgates is every bit
Speaker 2: as bad as like Biden versus Trump. Right, it's like
Speaker 2: the same thing, you know. And if if I could
Speaker 2: go to Live Mexico event next month, but then you know,
Speaker 2: the PGA Tour is like, hey, come do some fun
Speaker 2: stuff at waste management, I would do both. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 2: do it with a smile on my face, and I'd
Speaker 2: have a hell of a time and I would give
Speaker 2: both of them one hundred percent of my effort and
Speaker 2: go from there. But I think people look at it
Speaker 2: as like you have to pick one side or the other,
Speaker 2: and you you just don't you know.
Speaker 3: What's up for the people fam. We're super excited to
Speaker 3: have Gooder Sunglasses as a sponsor for the entire year.
Speaker 3: Gooder Sunglasses every pair twenty five to thirty five bucks,
Speaker 3: one hundred percent UV protective, one hundred percent polarized, and
Speaker 3: they make great golf specific lenses. They make brighter lenses.
Speaker 3: They make a dark lens called back nine Blackout. That's
Speaker 3: my favorite for multiple reasons. So go ahead and head
Speaker 3: to www dot goodr dot com. Insert code FTP fifteen.
Speaker 3: That'll get you a nice little discount. Also, free returns
Speaker 3: within thirty days, one year warranty, free shipping over fifty bucks.
Speaker 3: So go ahead, get yourself a couple pair of goods
Speaker 3: and have a day. Hey guys, we all know golf
Speaker 3: is hard, but looking good on the course definitely doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be. Our guys that Live Forever Golf promote
Speaker 3: a comfortable lifestyle on and off the golf course. They've
Speaker 3: got Polos golf shorts, five pocket perform pants, out of wear,
Speaker 3: active wear, a bunch of cool T shirts, a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of cool hats.
Speaker 3: You can go to Live Forever golf dot com and
Speaker 3: remember remember it's for the player, not the game. So
Speaker 3: use code nails twenty to get yourself twenty percent off
Speaker 3: live forever golf dot com their nails check them out.
Speaker 3: Pete and I have talked about this a bunch, dude.
Speaker 3: It's it's like people are golf fans. They really don't care.
Speaker 3: They're going to watch whatever. You don't think someone wants
Speaker 3: to watch, like Rory or rom You don't you think
Speaker 3: someone doesn't want to watch like Cam Smith. The comments
Speaker 3: section is where, like you know, people just start making
Speaker 3: shit up the whole time, where it just seems like
Speaker 3: it's the you know whatever Biden versus Trump and all
Speaker 3: this other crap like that it's so stupid, but like
Speaker 3: we'll watch. I mean, you're crazy to not want to
Speaker 3: watch Rory, you know when he's playing his best. Same
Speaker 3: with same with DJ when he's playing his best. But
Speaker 3: you guys talked about the dumb policies for you know
Speaker 3: is content and you know they don't show every single
Speaker 3: shot on the PG tour, Like if somebody is there
Speaker 3: and it's a random shot that they're recording and they
Speaker 3: show it, like who cares. It's like a moment in
Speaker 3: time no one will ever see again. I just told
Speaker 3: Pete like, I was a million over in the Byron
Speaker 3: Nelson and I found the club face for the first
Speaker 3: time in like the whole round and I hit it
Speaker 3: to like a foot on the seventeenth hole last year,
Speaker 3: and the cameras were rolling on one of those stream channels, right,
Speaker 3: it wasn't like real TV. So I like a screenshot
Speaker 3: and recorded it, and like within an hour, of course,
Speaker 3: it's I'm like, wha first only good shot of the week,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. It's like your account will be suspended
Speaker 3: if you. I was like, I hit the fucking shot.
Speaker 3: Like it was me hitting the shot. Like it's not
Speaker 3: like I'm sitting in front of my TV when the
Speaker 3: broadcast is going and then putting it on my own
Speaker 3: channel with my own sponsors. It's like, literally, I hit
Speaker 3: the shot right there and they're like, no, sorry. I
Speaker 3: was like, this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard
Speaker 3: in my life.
Speaker 1: But that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned you mentioned that you were like you
Speaker 1: and Gregor boys, all right, did you take the picture
Speaker 1: of him running on the beach.
Speaker 2: No? I did not. Let's set the record straight there,
Speaker 2: that did not happen that man, that's funny though, like
Speaker 2: the people people are asking, you know, people need to
Speaker 2: know these answers. It wasn't me, but what a oh,
Speaker 2: what a picture, man, geez I.
Speaker 3: So that's the best Halloween costume of last year. Really,
Speaker 3: if someone could have pulled it off. I tried to
Speaker 3: pull it off. I didn't have the hair, I didn't
Speaker 3: have the I didn't have the pex or the abs,
Speaker 3: and I didn't have the peace.
Speaker 1: So like it was, it was over about nine making it.
Speaker 3: Happen, and I didn't have a beach, and I didn't
Speaker 3: have a beach either.
Speaker 2: So I did a home course episode with him, and he's, uh,
Speaker 2: a well cultured guy, right, like you mean he played
Speaker 2: all over the world when he played on tour, but
Speaker 2: then he travels off a lot now and whatnot as well.
Speaker 2: But like he had this big wooden penis like right
Speaker 2: in front of his house, like on this like counter,
Speaker 2: and we kept going, you know, like usually before we
Speaker 2: start filming, we'll do a tour and you know, get
Speaker 2: to lay of the land and then it's not scripted,
Speaker 2: like I didn't. I got the idea off the MTV cribs.
Speaker 2: But none of these golfers are like charismatic enough to
Speaker 2: be like, welcome to my house, man, like open the door, like, right,
Speaker 2: come in here. You're like you probably get like two
Speaker 2: or three guys who could do that and like kill it.
Speaker 2: But like for me, I'm like, all right, I guess
Speaker 2: I gotta be in this. We'll do like a walk
Speaker 2: and talk and I always try to find ways that, like, hey,
Speaker 2: can we talk about something that, like, you know, would
Speaker 2: be cool that people wouldn't know. Can we talk about
Speaker 2: like maybe you got charity stuff like goots yesterday, like
Speaker 2: him and his wife started a foundation, but it's a
Speaker 2: cool story, Like there's a really cool thing of how
Speaker 2: that began. So I gave him that platform to talk
Speaker 2: about that. I want things to be like win wins, right,
Speaker 2: So with Greg, like this is more of a win
Speaker 2: for me and like, but we we were able to
Speaker 2: talk about live. This is before things really got moving.
Speaker 2: But he was confirmed, like for the first time publicly,
Speaker 2: like players had signed on that episode, and so we
Speaker 2: got some good info. But when we're going back and
Speaker 2: forth between rooms, I see this big wooden dick and
Speaker 2: I'm like, what is this? Like why do you have this?
Speaker 2: His house is unbelievable and his wife's an interior decorator
Speaker 2: for like some of the highest in hotels in the world,
Speaker 2: and so their home is like you could imagine, there's
Speaker 2: no like expense spirits beautiful.
Speaker 1: This wooden dicks.
Speaker 2: Ever, there's this wooden penis, and I'm like, so he
Speaker 2: catches He catches me like looking at it and pointing
Speaker 2: it to like put the camera guy or whatever, and
Speaker 2: he goes, oh. He's like, he's like, do you want
Speaker 2: to know about that? And I'm like, well, yeah, of course,
Speaker 2: you know. And so he told me the story and
Speaker 2: I was like, well, we got to film this, you know.
Speaker 2: But basically he was in the city. I don't even
Speaker 2: know what country. It is, in a tiny country, but
Speaker 2: they like worship the male reproductive organ and so like
Speaker 2: he's like, you go into this church and there's justises everywhere.
Speaker 2: You go into these stores and they have penises, and
Speaker 2: he goes, you went on the street and they're like
Speaker 2: carving penises like out of woods back and he's like,
Speaker 2: so I just you know, this young lady was carving
Speaker 2: a penis right there, and he goes, I thought it
Speaker 2: was just really cool. And he's like, so I peyter
Speaker 2: her and got one you know, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I was like, all right, dude, but yeah,
Speaker 4: I brought up He's like it's a small it's a
Speaker 4: little small, but it'll work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. I brought up picture of them and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I mean, he's got a good sense
Speaker 2: of him where he's he's fine.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 2: Greg's a he's an interesting guy. I mean he's he's
Speaker 2: very confident, let's put it that way. And I know
Speaker 2: that's why a lot of people don't like him, because
Speaker 2: he's a confident guy and people look at that as
Speaker 2: he's super self serving and stuff. But I think it's
Speaker 2: interesting with their league because he is you know, when
Speaker 2: you you've heard the term in football like players coach, right,
Speaker 2: Like he's like that as a CEO, Like he really
Speaker 2: does have these players interest in mind, like and he
Speaker 2: knows some of the things I think that you know,
Speaker 2: he had as a disadvantage as a player on the
Speaker 2: tour that could have been better, which I think he
Speaker 2: tried to make changes earlier on and got pushed out
Speaker 2: for that. But he has their their interest in mind.
Speaker 2: He's he's created you know, this league with with others
Speaker 2: and you know, financially it's a huge impact for these players,
Speaker 2: but ultimately the rest is up, you know, to be
Speaker 2: determined what's going to come of it. I mean a
Speaker 2: lot of guys at Tory were privately are like, you know,
Speaker 2: I hope the leagues come together, Like I hope that
Speaker 2: we can do something together, like they like, they like
Speaker 2: what they see how to live. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of people are afraid to step out and you know,
Speaker 2: become that villain or the defector because it does impact you,
Speaker 2: not only on the fans side, but pocketbook too. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: sponsors that are running away from these players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Hudson Swafford on was that Colleen? Right
Speaker 1: before the National Championship? We had hot On and I
Speaker 1: specifically asked him, you know, it's straight up because it's
Speaker 1: been rumored around Sea Island, Georgia where he lives that
Speaker 1: there's people that just won't talk to him. He's not
Speaker 1: allowed to go to certain places. Now, it's like, have
Speaker 1: you lost friends over going to living? He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I've lost friendships. I've mended a few, Like there
Speaker 1: was a couple where I had to sit down and
Speaker 1: have a tough conversation with them blah blah blah. But
Speaker 1: those are fine out and there's just people that won't
Speaker 1: talk to him anymore. And I think it's just fucking bullshit.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: It's just it's like if you start another job where
Speaker 1: you're getting paid ten times more than you were, and
Speaker 1: it's jealousy. I was like, dude, this guy's just got
Speaker 1: to be jealousy. I mean, you're making one more money
Speaker 1: than they are, you're doing less work. That's ultimately what
Speaker 1: everyone wants to do, and you know, he was just
Speaker 1: one of the first people to have the nuts to
Speaker 1: go over there and do it, and that's that's effectively
Speaker 1: what it is. But you're right. I mean, the guys
Speaker 1: that told you at TORI that they want the two
Speaker 1: leagues to come together, I don't think that'll ever happen.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll ever merge. But as far as
Speaker 1: you know, relationships being ended and then accepting that there
Speaker 1: are two, I think that will happen because you know
Speaker 1: what unlimited money, right, I mean, they're not going anywhere,
Speaker 1: so at the very.
Speaker 2: Least, how cool would be if there was a like
Speaker 2: a ryder Cup type of deal between the two leagues.
Speaker 2: Talk about viewership, I mean, because ultimately it does come
Speaker 2: down to money. Money speaks volumes, and that money doesn't
Speaker 2: even have to be Saudi money for that to happen. Like,
Speaker 2: but can you imagine those two leagues ultimately having a
Speaker 2: two to three day match against each other. I mean
Speaker 2: it would be absolutely electric. I mean yeah, it would
Speaker 2: be content heaven for one, it would be the viewership
Speaker 2: would be through the roof. And you've got at the
Speaker 2: highest level of players in both leagues. You've got the best,
Speaker 2: you know, it'd be it'd be pretty cool to see
Speaker 2: and hopefully, like at the very least, that's something maybe
Speaker 2: we can get. Because the President's Cup, the international team,
Speaker 2: I'll give them this, They had a lot of heart
Speaker 2: and Trevor Emmlment is a great guy, and like I'd
Speaker 2: love to see like how they battled it out. They
Speaker 2: did way better than I thought they would. But President's
Speaker 2: Cup isn't quite righter Cup. You know, It's like it'd
Speaker 2: just be cool to throw something else like that in there,
Speaker 2: But who knows.
Speaker 3: PD and I, dude, I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: PD and I were like talking about the President's Cup
Speaker 3: before and then like credit to them, and like Tom
Speaker 3: Kim obviously emerges as a star all this other stuff,
Speaker 3: but we're like, what's the point of this thing, Like
Speaker 3: it's going to be one hundred to zero.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many points.
Speaker 3: Are available, but like throw a little Live versus PGA
Speaker 3: Tour action and this thing is going to be.
Speaker 1: This thing's going to be amazing.
Speaker 3: Obviously they didn't do that, and shit, those guys played
Speaker 3: their asses off. I mean they were that was underdog
Speaker 3: central right there, you know, going into that, and they've
Speaker 3: lost star. I mean the tour, the PGA Tour. I
Speaker 3: don't even know if Koepka would have made the team.
Speaker 3: I guess DJ might have been the only shoe in
Speaker 3: maybe that would have made that team. But then the
Speaker 3: the internationals were down, like they're, you know, five out
Speaker 3: of their top six dudes, So yeah, they just would
Speaker 3: have got would have got roasted. But that's that would
Speaker 3: be that would be fun for sure, man. I Mean
Speaker 3: it's a different mindset on tour. Like if somebody is
Speaker 3: if they're well established in infinity money, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: But if someone's may miss like ten cuts in a
Speaker 3: row they made zero dollars, they're gonna be on edge
Speaker 3: on tilt, ready to get pissed.
Speaker 1: Like live golf.
Speaker 3: If someone has like one hundred million guaranteed and they're
Speaker 3: shooting you know, hockey sticks every round, it's like, make
Speaker 3: fun of me. I'm lapping all the way to the
Speaker 3: bank the whole time. Like whatever the mindset is probably
Speaker 3: changes a little. Same with other sports, dude.
Speaker 2: There's other sides to the live thing that I felt
Speaker 2: LIV missed the mark on though last year where they
Speaker 2: didn't share. But like I give you, I'll give you
Speaker 2: an example you had. I think Henny Dupless this I
Speaker 2: think so I'd pronounced his last name, but he he
Speaker 2: was part of Charles Schortzel's team in London and so
Speaker 2: but Henny took like I want to say, he was
Speaker 2: top five individual placer and then they won the team deal.
Speaker 2: And if you won the team deal, I think it
Speaker 2: was like seven hundred and fifty k a guy. Well,
Speaker 2: Henny's career earnings like weren't that that much. I mean
Speaker 2: he was playing on like the Asian Tour, some DP
Speaker 2: world events and stuff, and like hadn't made a lot
Speaker 2: of money. Well, all of a sudden, he made like
Speaker 2: two million plus dollars in one weekend, playing three days
Speaker 2: in London. You know, and when when I'm on the range.
Speaker 2: He's like like one thing I saw, I lived that.
Speaker 2: I really thought it was cool. Was like the ranges
Speaker 2: were like partitioned off by team, and the first week,
Speaker 2: like the four Aces had a little bit of a
Speaker 2: different team because like Patrick Reed hadn't signed yet and
Speaker 2: so they had a guy I can't think of his name,
Speaker 2: but like I personally never heard of him, right, and
Speaker 2: like DJ's on the range of them, like helping him,
Speaker 2: talking to him, like cutting it up with them and
Speaker 2: stuff like never seen DJ do that at the range
Speaker 2: the PJ Tour events, you know ever, And I was like,
Speaker 2: this is pretty cool to see, like these guys kind
Speaker 2: of come together that never would have their past never
Speaker 2: would have crossed, you know at all. And not the
Speaker 2: Dustin's a bad guy at all. It's just he probably
Speaker 2: never have given this guy at the time of day ever,
Speaker 2: you know, even if he came out to him like,
Speaker 2: hey man, you want to come look at my swim,
Speaker 2: give me a couple of pointers like he did, like
Speaker 2: what like yeah, So, I mean seeing all that was
Speaker 2: pretty cool. But like going back to Henny though, I
Speaker 2: saw him at the next event because I enjoyed my
Speaker 2: time in London. I was like, I want to go
Speaker 2: to the first one in the United States to see
Speaker 2: how it goes, how the fans react, And so I
Speaker 2: went out to the one in Portland. And when I
Speaker 2: talked to Henny on the putting Green and congratulated him,
Speaker 2: I mean he was He literally was talking to me.
Speaker 2: He had tears in his eyes about how because he did.
Speaker 2: He's not a player who got a signing bonus, He's
Speaker 2: not a player who had any guarantees with live He
Speaker 2: was going to have to like continue to earn his
Speaker 2: way to keep coming back. But he risked a lot
Speaker 2: by doing that because he didn't know what that meant
Speaker 2: to him for the dp World Tour at that time.
Speaker 2: He knew what it meant at the PGA Tour, which
Speaker 2: he wasn't on. But he he did it, and then
Speaker 2: it changed his life. Like he made more that week
Speaker 2: than maybe his whole career earnings or maybe equaled it.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know exactly the number, but it literally.
Speaker 1: Changed his life.
Speaker 2: And then he gave it gave him the most confidence
Speaker 2: to go out there the rest of the season and
Speaker 2: play freely and play his game and stuff. And those
Speaker 2: are stories that are pretty freaking cool man like, and
Speaker 2: you get those on the tour too, or like a
Speaker 2: guy out of nowhere it goes and wins and doors
Speaker 2: open up for him and stuff. But it's it's good
Speaker 2: all around. I just it's you got the haters and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. Hopefully in time things change.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Now they're on the CW. So you know, after you
Speaker 2: tune into Dawson's Creek or whatever, you're gonna be able
Speaker 2: to watch some live golf and you know, get some
Speaker 2: more fans.
Speaker 3: Perfect it's like perfect man, So we'll see that is good.
Speaker 3: That that it's I mean that it's on there.
Speaker 1: I don't don't.
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you another show that's on there. Honestly,
Speaker 3: obviously Dawson's Creek was that was Nail Speck.
Speaker 2: Well I googled, so when I came out, I said, like,
Speaker 2: there's memes here, you know, And so I was like,
Speaker 2: so I was looking at Gossip Girl as one that's
Speaker 2: big you have, like the old Superman Shi was on there.
Speaker 2: There's some good shows, some bangers, you know, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the wright audience, but apparently though
Speaker 2: the CW is on our new leadership and they want
Speaker 2: to grow aggressively and all that. So, I mean it
Speaker 2: would be matchmen in heaven, man. I mean, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, they had to get it somewhere.
Speaker 2: And although the YouTube broadcast wasn't.
Speaker 1: Bad, it wasn't bad. We talked about this on FTP too,
Speaker 1: But you know, and I made the argument, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know what kind of facts there are on this
Speaker 1: or whatever. We don't. We don't dabble in facts on
Speaker 1: this pot.
Speaker 2: But the.
Speaker 1: Clubhouses, the locker rooms, the pro shops at golf courses
Speaker 1: all over the world, they don't change channels. Those motherfuckers
Speaker 1: stay at Golf Channel all the time, right, All that's it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how many how the percentage of
Speaker 1: the PGA Tour's ratings come from channels that never get
Speaker 1: changed in all of those places. Probably a good amount,
Speaker 1: probably a lot, but that's probably that was one of
Speaker 1: the problems with lives. Your ratings are terrible. Well, a
Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with you know, this
Speaker 1: sixty five year old man. The GM at all these
Speaker 1: country clubs, most of these are they don't know how
Speaker 1: to get YouTube broadcast on their TVs, right, They just
Speaker 1: don't know how to do it now that it's on
Speaker 1: a channel, Maybe some of those don't get changed on
Speaker 1: ten to twenty percent of the TVs in locker rooms,
Speaker 1: But I think that was a big part of their
Speaker 1: deal last year's They just they couldn't have that channel
Speaker 1: that never gets changed in the locker rooms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, how are you going to go and stream
Speaker 3: all that at Buffalo Wild? Wings can't stream one hundred
Speaker 3: TVs on YouTube and expect the quality to be worth
Speaker 3: their shit watching it.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's just ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to definitely open some more doors for them,
Speaker 2: and it's going to bring in new fans to all
Speaker 2: the gossip Girl you know, freaks are going to just
Speaker 2: love Cam Smith's luscious locks and all that stuff. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's we'll see, it's going to be He'll be good.
Speaker 2: But to go back to what you're talking to though
Speaker 2: about Hudson, I was with them at the range and
Speaker 2: I don't if he told you this story, but we
Speaker 2: were on the range together in Portland and he got
Speaker 2: a text from one of the top golfers in the
Speaker 2: world and it was a bad text. It was just
Speaker 2: like a text like of just sheer disappointment, you know,
Speaker 2: like I can't believe you did this, and you know
Speaker 2: you and I will never like talk again or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly he showed it to me, but
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what I said. It was something
Speaker 2: along those lines like you and I are done, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to talk to you again or whatever. And
Speaker 2: he's like, I never even talked to this guy. He's like,
Speaker 2: he's like, you know, like maybe a couple of times,
Speaker 2: you know, He's like, but he really sent me this text,
Speaker 2: Like he went out of his way to send me
Speaker 2: this text to say that. And I'm like, wow, like
Speaker 2: and it was a player that that's where everybody loves,
Speaker 2: big name and I was just like, that's just I
Speaker 2: was shocked. I was like, this is because to your point, man,
Speaker 2: when I ran that National Dealer program. Going back to
Speaker 2: my job, it was my livelihood, right I have mouse
Speaker 2: if you've got kids, and and like, so it was
Speaker 2: my job to not only bring in new authorized dealers,
Speaker 2: but to make them successful and help them grow. And
Speaker 2: my number one dealer, who was my best friend at
Speaker 2: the time, left he went to another dealer program because
Speaker 2: they paid him more. And I obviously, like I cared
Speaker 2: about the financial stability of our company, but like I
Speaker 2: did everything I could to like offer him the top
Speaker 2: maximum pay, and then sometimes it's beyond pay, right, it's
Speaker 2: like what other perks can we do to give you?
Speaker 2: I did everything I could, But he left, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it hurt man, Like it hurt my paycheck that next year,
Speaker 2: because you know, it hurt the program. But he was
Speaker 2: still one of my best friends. Like he did what
Speaker 2: was good for him and his family, and the offer
Speaker 2: he got, he would have been an idiot to not
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 1: That goes back to golfers being soft basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you're right, just softest can be because
Speaker 2: you know Cam's Smith. Leaving doesn't hurt Justin Thomas. If anything,
Speaker 2: it helps him, like Justin now maybe has less competition
Speaker 2: to where he can maybe win in more events or something.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna hurt his paycheck more money for he helped. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the tour just upped all this money and stuff they
Speaker 2: found it, you know, hanging out under Monahan's couch or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like he helped him, So why be salty? You know,
Speaker 2: it's like just hey man, you made the businesses move on,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well uh that's that's pretty much all we got
Speaker 1: for you. We've got to roll out here in two minutes.
Speaker 1: I know it's kind of an abrupt, you know, hard
Speaker 1: stop here, but uh, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
Speaker 1: stop it right there. That's Travis Miller with PGA Memes.
Speaker 2: This is FTP.
Speaker 1: We'll see you all next week.