WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:08.560 This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me 2 00:00:09.240 --> 00:00:17.199 covering Dungeon Crawler Carl Book two, Carl's Doomsday Scenario chapters 3 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:22.640 one through four. In these chapters, we are on a 4 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:26.920 new floor. It is a whole new world, and we're 5 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:35.200 tricking Mordecai, which I fucking hate so much. So I 6 00:00:35.240 --> 00:00:39.240 hate it so much, you guys, I really cannot express 7 00:00:39.359 --> 00:00:46.560 enough how much I dislike this development. Welcome to spoil Me. 8 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.799 Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you 9 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:11.920 very much to Michael for commissioning this episode. Michael is 10 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.400 here in the chats, as is miss t and Rob. 11 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:21.480 Welcome to both of you. This is devastating. Now, I 12 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:23.760 want to be clear, I'm not sad that Mordecai is 13 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:27.159 going to stick around, obviously, that is not the issue. 14 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:31.040 I love this little guy. He has been so helpful. 15 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:35.719 He is so what's the word I want? Like the 16 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:43.920 way that he tries to help. It makes me sad though, 17 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:49.359 knowing that the way this is having to be done 18 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:56.120 is so underhanded. I we're going to get to that moment, 19 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:58.519 so I'm going to wait to talk about it until then. 20 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.200 But once I realized what was going on because it's 21 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.959 written in such a way that you're not aware he's 22 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.879 being tricked until it's in the midst of being done. 23 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:12.680 I my fucking heart fell. So we start off with 24 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:17.879 welcome crawler to the third floor, and for a moment, 25 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.479 Donut thinks that they are outside, but it turns out 26 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:25.960 to be an illusion, and they are walking towards They're 27 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:29.879 on a red carpet going towards this door, and someone 28 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:35.840 steps out, a disgustingly handsome man wearing a tuxedo, who 29 00:02:35.960 --> 00:02:39.759 is Mordecai in a new form. He now looks like 30 00:02:40.039 --> 00:02:48.199 a sucubus. Well, no, incubi, Incubia is plural. He's an incubus. Okay, 31 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:52.360 now I've got it straight. The smooth, seductive, and ultimately 32 00:02:52.439 --> 00:02:55.639 deadly Incubis can be identified by his stunning good looks, 33 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:02.479 exquisite charm, and sensuous feet. I doubt it, but sure, 34 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:12.360 and Mordecai. As they step inside, he says thank goodness 35 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:15.240 and takes off the tux jacket and stuff, and it's 36 00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:17.000 just like, oh my god, I thought you guys were 37 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:20.240 never gonna fucking get here. I have been having to 38 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:25.080 wear that waiting around. It's been three fucking hours, and 39 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:31.759 Carl explains the interview ran long sorry about that his 40 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:34.319 room was exactly the same as it had always been, 41 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:37.240 but he'd cleaned up even further. A pair of beds 42 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:40.120 had magically appeared since the last time we'd been in here. 43 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:46.199 I love the detail that as Mordecai starts being more 44 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:50.960 and more hopeful, he's taking better and better care of 45 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:54.319 himself and his surroundings. There's just it's just it's a 46 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.360 little thing, you know, but I just really really understand, 47 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:05.000 and I just like it as sort of a detail 48 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:08.759 about his mental state, even if he's not sharing it 49 00:04:08.800 --> 00:04:16.680 with them, you know. And the Mornecai is like, all right, 50 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:20.839 so let's talk about your races. You are Cat, You're 51 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:24.079 being given three hundred and twenty choices in alphabetical order, 52 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:28.160 and of course Donuts says, well, then we're gonna do 53 00:04:28.360 --> 00:04:32.920 Cat obviously, and he's like, yeah, okay, that's fine, but 54 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.279 also you could just like, you know, check the other ones. 55 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:39.519 And she's like, or I could do what I fucking said, 56 00:04:39.879 --> 00:04:46.040 which is pick Cat. And there's a moment when Carl 57 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:47.920 is like, is picking that gonna undo the fact that 58 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.399 she can talk? But it's too late By the time 59 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:53.040 he even thinks of that, she has already gone and 60 00:04:53.160 --> 00:05:02.240 chosen cat. It's important to ask questions like that I 61 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.160 made it so she actually chose to not make a choice. 62 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.120 Nothing will change, but she will now have access to 63 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:12.480 a few racial benefits she didn't have before. So like 64 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:15.560 just pointing out, Mordecai is already doing shit for them, 65 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:18.000 don't it might have just fucked that all up so bad. 66 00:05:18.839 --> 00:05:21.680 And now I really wonder if she hadn't been able 67 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:25.959 to talk, could she had still used the uh like 68 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:31.160 the text chat or would it make it that she 69 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:38.040 couldn't communicate at all? Because if she couldn't talk and 70 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:43.519 she was, like, what I'm thinking about is her reverting 71 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:48.040 back to a pet from a member of the party. 72 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.600 But I have to assume that can't really happen if 73 00:05:51.639 --> 00:05:55.240 you're choosing a race, Like the choosing of the race 74 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.000 is part of being in a party, so I assume 75 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:03.959 you can't really go backward that way. But yeah, anyway, 76 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:06.519 I just had a moment here of like, Christ, we 77 00:06:06.639 --> 00:06:12.000 barely avoided a terrible problem, And it's sure it's purely 78 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:17.199 down to the fact that Mordecai was paying attention. So 79 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:21.120 I love this what are the benefits, don'nut asked, I 80 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:25.120 don't know, Princess Donut. We never got to examine the 81 00:06:25.240 --> 00:06:28.360 cat choice. You'll be able to see when we're done, 82 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.399 and you wouldn't have changed you anyway. It doesn't happen 83 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:34.079 until the end of the process. Now we need to 84 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.000 think about the next choice. Show me anything with the 85 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:41.199 word princess or queen in the title. And he says, 86 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:44.439 you've been given thirty four. This is the shortest list 87 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.279 I've ever seen. But I think that's a combination of 88 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:51.480 your racial choice and the result of your stats. And 89 00:06:53.040 --> 00:06:55.920 she immediately is like, oh, I pick that one, and 90 00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:00.600 Carl has to be like, you need to fucking talk 91 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.920 this through with me now. Later on, it turns out 92 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:09.959 this is all kind of not real. They have this 93 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:14.480 whole debate, and ultimately we find out that it was 94 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.040 the manager benefit that they were looking for, and that 95 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:23.199 is the only determining factor they were instructed by. It's 96 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:30.879 Odette right that she thought. She thought, basically, no matter 97 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:36.360 what it is, having the manager benefit is of the 98 00:07:36.480 --> 00:07:41.160 utmost importance because Mordecai is so valuable, So regardless of 99 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:44.120 the rest of the package, take the one that has 100 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:48.319 the manager benefit. So they knew this here and there's 101 00:07:48.360 --> 00:07:55.040 a bunch of conversation that in retrospect is not actually real. 102 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.800 Artist Ali Mogul, Necrobard, and former child actor are the 103 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:07.639 ones the AI has picked. Artist Ali Mogel cracked me up. 104 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:10.959 And I really really did want her to choose this one. 105 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.519 I appreciated that that is the one we're all pretending 106 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.600 is going to be the one, and I was devastated 107 00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:18.839 when she didn't pick it. Although when we get the 108 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:22.600 instructions why later, I get it, but I still maintain, 109 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:25.879 I don't know, man, this might have been the better 110 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:28.439 call anyway. I don't know. I don't know. It's so hard, 111 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:32.120 I don't know. So I'm not going to go through 112 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:37.240 all of the advantages except for mentioning that there is 113 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:41.960 interest earned on coins and there is a fifteen percent 114 00:08:42.039 --> 00:08:45.879 bonus to money and a twenty five percent discount at stores. 115 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:49.799 So and by bonus, I mean like when you sell 116 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:54.480 stuff you get fifteen percent more. As a broke bitch, 117 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:59.799 this spoke to me like, on a personal level, this 118 00:08:59.879 --> 00:09:02.440 is that's what I would take purely on that because 119 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.919 that just feels so valuable, and that in combination as 120 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.320 he mentions later she has a discount due to her charisma, 121 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:12.480 so everything would be fifty percent off, and what she 122 00:09:12.559 --> 00:09:15.840 winds up doing, she doesn't get any discounts on anything, 123 00:09:15.840 --> 00:09:19.039 which is devastating to me, like truly, I was so heartbroken. 124 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:27.799 And let's see necro Bard. This unusual class combines one 125 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:30.639 of the most loved occupations with one of the most reviled. 126 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.559 Necromancers specialize in magic related to raising the dead. Bards 127 00:09:35.720 --> 00:09:39.720 must choose an entertainment based skill depending on this choice, 128 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.519 whether it be singing the kazoo or storytelling. The resulting 129 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:46.879 crawler will use this skill to either entertain, protect or 130 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:52.440 glamour both the living and the dead. Plus let's see 131 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:55.159 instnet access to a level five entertainment based skill of 132 00:09:55.200 --> 00:10:00.279 their choice. Access to all membership based clubs regards less 133 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:04.120 of current membership free rooms at all safe rooms, ten 134 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:08.799 percent man acost penalty on non necromancer or barred spells, 135 00:10:08.840 --> 00:10:14.279 which is significant. Instant access to turn undead, Instant access 136 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:19.159 to panty dropper plus five to constitution, charisma and intelligence 137 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:23.600 minus two to strength, which that minus two to strength 138 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.960 even though everything else sounded dope, immediately had me going nah, 139 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:31.799 like She's just I know that's not the same as uh, 140 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:37.639 what do you call it? Oh my god, you guys, 141 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:42.120 what's the one about your overall durability? I can't remember 142 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:45.399 the name of it. Oh constitution, thank you, miss t. 143 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:48.799 I know it's not the same thing, and the plus 144 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.200 five to constitution is like significant, But there was just 145 00:10:52.240 --> 00:10:57.720 something about how I am not going to say useless 146 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:59.600 in a fight, because that is not true and that 147 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:03.559 is not fair. But it just felt like, ah, you 148 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:07.639 have such a sort of precarious position there. I wouldn't 149 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.679 like it. And she starts talking about playing instruments and 150 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.279 is very very excited about this, which of course is 151 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:16.279 like carl is having visions of a five year old 152 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:19.440 being given symbols for a Christmas present, and it's just like, 153 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:22.559 kill me now. I was thinking about this because like, 154 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:27.080 I don't think there's any question that a barred class 155 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.679 is what I would be were I to try and 156 00:11:29.720 --> 00:11:34.840 take advantage of my natural talents. And I was trying 157 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:39.559 to think, like, because they're talking about storytelling and like 158 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:44.279 that as an entertainment thing. I really there was a 159 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:48.399 part of me that really liked the idea of like 160 00:11:49.919 --> 00:11:54.360 having it be singing except I'm not just like singing. 161 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:59.399 It's just when I fucking like get my add tripped 162 00:11:59.720 --> 00:12:02.759 on somebody saying something that sounds vaguely like song lyrics, 163 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:05.039 and I just start to sing a song like it's 164 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:10.440 it's singing, yeah, but it's like automatic, you know. And 165 00:12:11.000 --> 00:12:13.399 I just started to think, like that would probably waste 166 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:17.960 a lot of manna, because I'd be like invoking something 167 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:22.240 by accident, because I you know, anyway, I just I 168 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:26.080 thought about this a lot. I guess storytelling is like 169 00:12:26.120 --> 00:12:35.480 the closest probably, but I really the barred class and 170 00:12:35.519 --> 00:12:41.200 like the charisma. I Am not saying that I don't 171 00:12:42.399 --> 00:12:48.000 want to fight, because I think fighting sounds super fun sometimes, 172 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:51.919 but if we're going with what I'm actually like as 173 00:12:51.960 --> 00:12:55.600 a person, probably for the best. I do think about 174 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:58.879 how in Skyrim, though, when I started playing that game, 175 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:02.600 I was really I did not enjoy the combat aspect 176 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:06.679 of the game, and so what I did was poured 177 00:13:07.159 --> 00:13:13.919 all of my points into being indestructible, and I became 178 00:13:14.279 --> 00:13:21.200 this unstoppable, fucking wrecking ball barbarian character, which I hadn't 179 00:13:21.399 --> 00:13:25.840 really intended to do, but it was I am afraid 180 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.120 of fighting, and so I'm going to do everything to 181 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:31.120 make sure that fighting is all I'm fucking good at. 182 00:13:31.519 --> 00:13:37.720 It wound up becoming this like weird reverse reaction, and 183 00:13:38.480 --> 00:13:40.759 so I got to this point where I had this 184 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.840 like incredible weapon, and I was up on all of 185 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:48.799 these stats, and I could just kill like pretty big 186 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:51.919 level of characters for quests and stuff, you know, the 187 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:54.679 final boss for whatever quest, and I would just walk 188 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:57.399 up to him and just like whap him with this 189 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:02.480 weird staff and kill him in like one hit. And 190 00:14:02.559 --> 00:14:08.559 it was always wow. Really, it was just very funny 191 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:10.559 to me once I stepped back and remembered how much 192 00:14:10.600 --> 00:14:12.480 I had hated fighting, and then I built this character 193 00:14:12.559 --> 00:14:15.360 this way because I hated it. So I just wanted 194 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.240 to get it over with as quickly as possible. So 195 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:21.080 I started thinking about that with this. But like again, 196 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.039 if we're going according to who I really am versus 197 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:27.720 starting from scratch with like a character, I think it's 198 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:34.080 for the best to do Barred. So there's also former 199 00:14:34.240 --> 00:14:39.000 child actor. It can only be obtained by Crawlers who 200 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:42.440 have both received the cut achievement and have obtained at 201 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.879 least one trillion views, and both she and Carl later 202 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:50.000 have suggestions that are dependent on the number of views 203 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:53.759 they've gotten, and as Mordecai points out, they are kind 204 00:14:53.759 --> 00:14:59.159 of like great options that are meant to give them 205 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:03.399 a boost because they are so popular, which is just 206 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:08.000 more evidence of how the playing field is not level. 207 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:12.399 Because you're already doing well, you get given better options, 208 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:20.519 very annoying immunity to all poisons and diseases. Level five 209 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:26.039 Cockroach skill plus ten to Charisma plus fifteen fifteen percent 210 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:30.480 faster growth in all charisma based skills. The manager benefit 211 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:34.639 this is an Earth class. As an incentive to choose 212 00:15:34.679 --> 00:15:37.919 an Earth class. You will receive a silver Earth box 213 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:44.159 upon choosing this class. And Carl asks about what the 214 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:50.039 Cockroach skill Character actor, and he explains character actor basically 215 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:52.480 means every floor you get to pick a specialty. You 216 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:55.559 can pick a new class every floor. It would be 217 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.279 somewhat useful if it's a floor filled with ice monster. 218 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:00.840 She can pick a fire class, but it's a chance 219 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.320 based so if she chooses it and then chooses a 220 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:06.559 fire mage, the AI rolls the dice and decides how 221 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:08.519 many spells and skills to give to her, and as 222 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:10.399 soon as she's done with the floor, she loses the 223 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:14.440 skills and starts over. Each higher level of the skill 224 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.480 gives better skills, so it makes it so she's pretty 225 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:19.559 weak on the early levels, but once she gets higher 226 00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:24.559 it can be powerful. And what like where we wind 227 00:16:24.639 --> 00:16:26.159 up with both of them is that they are doing 228 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.919 something that disadvantages them now in order to give them 229 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:34.240 much greater benefits later as long as they stay alive, 230 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.039 which we know they will because there are more books. 231 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.960 But also that's a lot of faith. And I have 232 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:44.639 to admit, guys, I don't think I would make these choices. 233 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:47.799 I respect them. And if I were playing a video 234 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:50.159 game where I knew that I was going to be 235 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:52.759 playing even after I died, I could come back and 236 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.279 keep trying. Sure, But if I were in this situation 237 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:59.360 where I could be actually killed, and that's it, I'm sorry, 238 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.879 I'm pickings some that helps me now. I really just 239 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:06.480 I would be very like short term benefit about it, 240 00:17:06.519 --> 00:17:09.440 and that would feel like the smarter path to me. 241 00:17:10.480 --> 00:17:14.559 Like I said, I respect the choices they're making, and 242 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:18.440 I respect the positive attitude that it would take to 243 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:20.880 get them to choose those, but I would not have 244 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:25.440 the faith in staying alive that they do. And part 245 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:28.000 of me feels like that's kind of sad as a statement, 246 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:29.559 and another part of me is like, that's just me 247 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:36.720 being fucking smart about it. I don't know. So let's 248 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:39.519 see what's the cockroach skill. It gives a chance to 249 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:43.839 survive a fatal attack, though she'd be near death afterwards. 250 00:17:46.319 --> 00:17:49.480 And let's see. Let's spend some time looking at the 251 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:53.440 other choices. I think Necrobard might be better, but you 252 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:57.200 know it's true for your social numbers, that might not 253 00:17:57.359 --> 00:17:59.920 be as good because they have to keep in mind 254 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.759 for everything that they pick, how is the audience going 255 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:05.279 to react and want to hold on to the viewers 256 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:11.440 they've got. And we go over a bunch of things 257 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:13.319 and then we get donut. I know you're not excited 258 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:14.759 about it, but I really think you should go with 259 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.720 the artist Ali mogul class. It's not perfect, but it's 260 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:23.279 the most well rounded. Okay. I exchanged a look with 261 00:18:23.319 --> 00:18:28.279 Mordecai to see if he was buying it. He appeared skeptical. Really, 262 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:31.720 I said, we got to do it's best for the team, right, 263 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.839 you want me to be a nerd, I'll be a nerd. Carl, 264 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:36.680 Are you sure about this? He is going to be 265 00:18:36.759 --> 00:18:42.240 really mad? Do it? Okay, then the menu is gonna 266 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:43.960 pop up now and you have to scroll down and 267 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:49.519 choose it. Done, I am now a stupid artist Ali Mogul. 268 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:54.759 God damn it, Donut, Mordecai cried, God fucking damn it, 269 00:18:55.440 --> 00:19:04.839 and scene Donut said, waving her paw. WHOA, what's happening, Mordecai, dear, 270 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:07.920 that's Carl's line. You should pick something else, Carl. He's 271 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:10.799 upset because I chose the former child actor class I 272 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:16.920 was acting. Isn't it great? That's not acting. It's called lying. 273 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:21.559 It wasn't a lie, not technically. I picked the artist 274 00:19:21.559 --> 00:19:24.200 Aly Mogul as my third floor specialty. It's basically the 275 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:25.759 same thing anyway, So I don't see what he's so 276 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:28.759 upset about. It said. I received all the benefits except 277 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:31.799 the twenty five percent discount or the shields bell or 278 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:42.960 that pathfinder's skill. And then it turns out she's taking 279 00:19:42.960 --> 00:19:46.000 the heat for this. But this was part of a plan. 280 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:51.839 Oh my god. And Mordecai says, then you received the 281 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:56.480 manager benefit. Oh yeah, I said, what is that? I 282 00:19:56.559 --> 00:20:00.680 already knew exactly what the manager benefit was. Odette had 283 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:06.000 explained it in detail. That's me from now on, for 284 00:20:06.079 --> 00:20:08.599 the remainder of your time in this god forsaken place, 285 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.440 I will instantly teleport to any safe room you are 286 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:18.079 in yay, Donut cried, No, not ya. I was supposed 287 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:22.039 to transfer to a magic guild after this floor. I 288 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:25.599 like running the magic guild. My room gets bigger, and 289 00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:29.119 I have access to my potions and more spells. Now, 290 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.480 every time you sleep, or eat or stop to brush 291 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:34.480 your teeth, I'll be forced to spend my time with 292 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:37.960 you away from my room and my clothes and food. 293 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:42.720 Oh gods, and I've lost my tunnel access, no more television, 294 00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:45.559 no more access to the information Codex. And since I 295 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:48.200 can no longer watch you stumbling around the dungeon, I 296 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:51.640 will have no warning for where I'm gonna be teleported away. 297 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.039 And if you buy a personal space, he started grumbling 298 00:20:56.119 --> 00:21:01.759 under his breath. That wasn't cool, Doughnut. I told you 299 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:05.319 he'd be bad. I don't like people mad at me, Carl, Yeah, 300 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:10.720 he's pissed. Sorry about that. Honestly, guys, it would be 301 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:12.359 very hard for me to deal with him being mad 302 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:14.319 at me when it was part of the plan and 303 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:17.319 take all the heat for that. I get it, Donut 304 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.440 excuse me, guys, I'm having allergies today. He made one 305 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:25.119 second to uh wipe some pollen out of my throat. Probably, 306 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:31.720 Oh god, why are we made this way? Why does 307 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:35.759 our body just react to plants stuff being in the air. 308 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:39.880 It just doesn't seem like we're very well built sometimes, 309 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:44.160 you know. So Anyway, Yeah, they basically have made it 310 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:48.559 that he is on call and also doesn't have his 311 00:21:48.759 --> 00:21:52.799 like streaming services and can be yanked out of bed, 312 00:21:52.839 --> 00:22:00.759 and shit. That sucks. It sucks. It would be worse, 313 00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:06.440 I will say, if he were like with friends and 314 00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:11.160 we're being yanked, but he is always just alone. I 315 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:14.039 have to say a part of me feels like this 316 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:17.039 might be good for him. I understand that he likes 317 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:22.920 the Magic Guild thing, but also it might be good 318 00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.279 for you to not be able to like totally retreat 319 00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:27.640 from the world, buddy, because I just feel like you're 320 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:33.640 I don't know, he's just not he It might improve 321 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.559 his overall headspace to have a little bit more going 322 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:39.640 on in his life. What I'm saying is sometimes we 323 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:44.799 resist change because we are very comfortable, and comfort isn't 324 00:22:44.839 --> 00:22:48.720 the same as growth. Actually, it's usually the exact opposite. 325 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:53.160 If you are comfortable, you aren't changing or learning anything, 326 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:57.279 which is sort of a kiss of death. So I'm 327 00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:59.319 trying to look at it that way. But the main 328 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:02.039 issue is that he doesn't get to choose, and they 329 00:23:02.039 --> 00:23:04.920 are lying to him. Now, we don't get to choose 330 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.119 a lot of the things that happened to us that 331 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:12.440 cause change and growth. To a degree, the fact that 332 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:14.799 he doesn't get to choose isn't even that much of 333 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.400 a factor to me. Like Carl and I was about 334 00:23:18.440 --> 00:23:20.599 to call her Adet Carl and Donut don't get to 335 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:24.880 choose to be part of this fucking TV show. He 336 00:23:25.480 --> 00:23:27.200 not getting to choose. But it's the fact that they 337 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:29.440 are like pretending that they didn't do this to him 338 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:35.400 on purpose. That's what gets me, you know. And then 339 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:37.519 we get the Odet's moment. If you do pick the 340 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:40.200 manager benefit and it's not attached to an obvious choice, 341 00:23:40.200 --> 00:23:42.839 you'll want to make it look like a mistake. Don't 342 00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:45.559 ask him about it, because once he tells you what 343 00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.039 it is, it'll be too late. He won't be a 344 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:54.480 he won't be allowed to tell you unless you ask this. 345 00:23:54.599 --> 00:23:59.000 I didn't get Once he tells you what it is, 346 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:04.519 it'll be too late. Does she mean that once he 347 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:11.480 tells you and you choose it anyway, he will know 348 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:14.000 that you fucked him and will be unwilling to work 349 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:18.119 with you. I guess that's what she's saying, Like essentially, 350 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:24.720 because here's here's my problem. She is assuming that if 351 00:24:24.720 --> 00:24:27.640 we bring it up, ask what it is, and he 352 00:24:27.680 --> 00:24:30.759 doesn't want it and you and she's thinking, then the 353 00:24:30.799 --> 00:24:34.400 next thing is you would just pick it anyway, which 354 00:24:35.880 --> 00:24:42.599 there's another option. We could just have a really intense 355 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:46.079 heart to heart about how much we fucking need you, Mordecai, 356 00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:50.759 how we are going to die if you don't do 357 00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:55.400 something that makes you little less comfy for like however 358 00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:59.839 long the each of the floors, the time spent in 359 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.000 is being shortened so dramatically that later on he's like, 360 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:07.319 people are going to be pissed about this, so they're 361 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:10.559 not even asking him to be uncomfy for that long, 362 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:18.839 you know, Like the overall to me, the option that's 363 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.920 missing is attempting to reason with him and appeal to 364 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:29.119 him on a basic empathetic level, and she just assumes 365 00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.960 that's not an option. And I think the fact that 366 00:25:33.000 --> 00:25:35.680 she assumes that's not an option reveals a lot about 367 00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:41.720 Odette and why she isn't speaking with Mordecai anymore. What 368 00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:45.480 I'm thinking is, maybe don't take advice from the person 369 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.200 who alienated him so badly that he'd rather spend a 370 00:25:48.279 --> 00:25:51.680 thousand more years doing this indentured servitude than talk to her. 371 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:58.640 That's what I'm saying is, don't do what she did 372 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:04.720 when you are doing exactly what she says without even 373 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.359 thinking that maybe there's another way you could handle it. 374 00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.680 I don't like it. I think it's disrespectful to him 375 00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:15.519 as a person to think that he wouldn't be willing 376 00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:18.839 to hear you out. Mordecai clearly has started to give 377 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:23.559 a shit about these two, and I like to think 378 00:26:24.119 --> 00:26:26.920 that if they appeal to him on that level, considering 379 00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.799 his fate is tied to how far into the game 380 00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:34.440 they get, he might be willing to do this just because. 381 00:26:35.759 --> 00:26:39.400 But they don't even give him the chance. They don't 382 00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:44.880 pay him the respect of even attempting it. And I 383 00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:49.839 understand the issue is if you attempt it and it 384 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:54.240 doesn't work, now it's off the table entirely. I get it. 385 00:26:55.640 --> 00:27:00.759 But I have faith in Mordecai, I really do, and 386 00:27:00.920 --> 00:27:05.680 it's either you make the attempt and he doesn't agree 387 00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:11.920 and you wind up shutting that door, but you paid 388 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:16.160 him the respect of doing that, or you do what 389 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:20.599 they did and you buy some time and then he 390 00:27:21.039 --> 00:27:26.640 inevitably finds out that you fucked him over on purpose. 391 00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:30.759 I am sorry, but I am like, at this age, 392 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:35.920 forty years old, I do not believe it is possible 393 00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.319 to keep secrets from the people that you are around 394 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:44.119 for very long, unless you are a truly bad person. 395 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:49.119 I really don't think anything can be kept secret. I 396 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:53.880 always feel any given secret is going to be found out. 397 00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.880 It is simply a matter of time, and usually that 398 00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.960 time is not nearly as long as you think it's 399 00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:03.240 gonna be. So what you're doing is for the present, 400 00:28:03.359 --> 00:28:07.680 making things easier for yourself. And then at some later point, 401 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:10.160