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tell us, my friend, why do you not like Iowa?
Are you just against potatoes? Wait, that might be Idaho?
Are you against chips? No, that's potatoes. What's your problem
with Iowa?
Speaker 2: I believe they do corn and I love cornn guy.
I'm not a corn.
Speaker 1: Corn bread I hate. I am not a corn bread guy,
but I do like me some corn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, corn corner down a cop is great.
Speaker 2: I just look at their schedule and obviously the Big
Ten is you know them in the SEC are the
best two conferences. But you just look at their schedule.
Week two, that Rivalry game, and I know rivalry games
are always tough, but they have to go to ames
Iowa and play good Iowa State team. They get really
tough games they are at home, but they have Indiana,
they have Penn State, they have Oregon, all at home,
but those teams are all better than Iowa. Now the
seven and a half's out there. You gotta pay juice
minus one fifty minus one sixty. But I feel good
about this team going seven and five, six and six.
To me, it's an easy under seven and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, don't stay with you quick before we go
to Joe. This Iowa team over the years have been well,
a sleeping pill, if you will, and then last year
we saw them wake up. What kind of team are
they going to roll out this year? Is this going
to be an under team like the past? Or are
we gonna see them score?
Speaker 2: I mean, their offense can obviously only go up because
it's been so bad these last handful of years. Listen,
I was always gonna play grind out games. They're gonna
have good offensive linemen, good interior play, and that's how
the Big Ten plays anyway, and that's how they like
to play. But to me, to think that this team
is going to get to eight wins with that schedule
just does not seem possible.
Speaker 4: And Joe, you agree, it's all about what their quarterback does.
I mean the problem for them is that they haven't
been able to throw the ball over the last couple
of seasons, so but they've had to win on defense,
special teams and running the ball. They got this kid
Gronowski this year who's coming from the FCS level. He's
like thirty, so at least he's played some football and
it's got some experience. So to me, I'm with Yard.
It all depends on whether or not they have any
success throwing the ball. If they don't, they're gonna have
to keep doing it with special teams and defense because
that's the only way they can win games. And they
always seem to win just enough games to cast that
over ticket. We'll see this year.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's turn our attention to Utah. You like them,
you're high on them this year. You think they're gonna
go over in their wins.
Speaker 2: I do. Now, it's a big number eight and a half.
If you can find an eight out there, it's better.
Now the eight and a half you are gonna get
plus money on the juice I love the coach. Their
quarterback situation has been so bad in the last couple
of years with Cam Rise and in and out, the
guy played a million years. They might have the best
offensive line in all of college football. Two of their
guys are projected first round picks. They get Texas Tech
at home, they get Arizona State at home, they get
Kansas State at home. They get a lot of their
tougher games at home. And I don't hate because the
Big Twelve is kind of like a three or four
horse race plus six fifty on them to win the
Big Twelve. I don't hate that as a little sprinkle
as well.
Speaker 4: Joe, Yeah, it's kind of hard to kind of hard
to argue with. I mean, it's one of the best
coaches in the country. They have a home field advantage
art like none other. I think there's there's gonna be
a changing of the guard in the Big Twelve, and
we saw it last year. I think we're gonna start
to see it again this year. Utah didn't have their
quarterback last year, but there are no shortage of recruits,
so I'm with you here. The sky is the limit
for Utah. We all thought they were gonna win it
last year and they just couldn't get healthy. I think
this year could very well be the year to go
ahead and back them.
Speaker 1: You guys are watching the best betting show ever. Joe
Rania you can find him on Sports Squid regularly. You
can find me over at Wage you talk. Art the
Caesar you can find at the Westgate Sportsbook, And that's
part of why we're doing the show. Really, guys, you're
gonna be able to to watch the show. Monday to Friday.
September one will be our first show that isn't the
previews show. And basically, Joe and I are professional betters.
We try to beat the book, and Art the Caesar
is the book, so he's going to be providing us
with daily information on where all the bets are. And
I forgot to ask you that in the NFL Previews show, Art,
but in the College football Previews show, I will remember
to ask you, So I will stop right now and
ask you what type of bets is the Westgate taking?
Future wise in college football?
Speaker 2: So a couple of teams we could just hit on
for their over underwins. Very people are very high on
Clemson taking them over ten. There are some ten and
a half's out there. We haven't gotten there yet. We've
just juiced to ten from flat to minus one thirty
on the over. A team in the Big twelve who
obviously I'm a little anti because I'm pro Utah is
Texas Tech. They're taking their over wins over eight and
a half. It was minus one forty. Now we're nine
flat and they're big on the air Force under six
and a half taking that as an under. And let
me just throw this out to hear. This is another
Big twelve team, Arizona State. If they were to somehow
win the national championship as we currently speak, we would
get murdered on that. We have taken like multiple four
five figure bets on Arizona State to win the national championship.
Speaker 1: Wow, there were we go. You're gonna try. You're gonna
hear that information every single day. When the show starts
on Monday, September first, Art's gonna come on and tell
us exactly where all the money is being laid. Is
also gonna tell us bets that he personally likes, and
you know, some real big syndicates out there and what
they're playing. So there's a little sneak preview art. Let's
move our attention to winning the MAC. This division gets
a lot of play as we see a lot of
weekday games. You like Toledo here.
Speaker 2: I do, and they are the favorites and their favorites
for a reason. Plus one ten all the way up
to plus one thirty, So you're not getting a nice
juicy price on it. But the coach is good, the
quarterbacks back. This is a team who I believe won
the MAC two years ago. They're kind of back to
what they need to be.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's, you know, the greatest value out
there because it's such a low number, but I think
it's low for a reason, and it's come down.
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's as low as plus one ten
in some places.
Speaker 2: It was as high as plus one sixty plus one
sixty five when we opened it. We're at one thirty now,
so we've seen some pretty good action and sharp action
come on it as well. And it makes me feel
like that's a team I want to back in the
MAC because I love that conference.
Speaker 4: Joe are the only and I like that because it's
it's realistic. But I keep looking at this Buffalo team
returning what nine to ten starters on defense, and you
need to play defense in order to win some games
in the MAC here, and it feels like I'm gonna
be interested to see how they do. They're not much
more expensive, right, I think they're plus four to one
plus five to one right now. But it's the chalk
could very well be there. But Buffalo is the team
I'm most worried about in the MAC.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that and listen, it's funny. They
don't even play each other. I know Buffalo, ye, so
you know it is one of those things. But no,
I mean when you look at the MAC, there is
always like a kind of three or four team race,
and like you said, Buffalo's definitely in the mix there.
Speaker 3: I just look at them.
Speaker 2: It almost reminds me of Clemson, who's an overwhelming favorite
in the East. See, I think they're a favorite like that.
Speaker 3: For a reason.
Speaker 1: Didn't think we'd be on a show so soon talking
about how Buffalo can win anything. Yeah, that's amazing. Maybe
in five years we can mention the Savers. Joe Rnaii
with us everyone. You can hear him on sports Grid
every day, right, you're doing the morning show on sports
Grid listen.
Speaker 4: Just remember, Prez. I know it's hard for you guys
up north there, but the Cup lives in Florida. Just
remember that, especially South Florida. So it won't be going
anywhere near Buffalo or Toronto anytime soon. But yes, the
Sports Grid Network, the Early Line weekdays eight to eleven
in the morning. Can't can't miss it there, Prez, We're
there every Monday through Friday.
Speaker 1: There you go, Art, I'm not taking the bait. I'm
not gonna discuss his stupid Florida dancers blah blah blah
blah blah. The Cuff remains in Florida. I bet you
the Cups in Toronto today, but that's a whole different story.
I guarantee you it ain't in freaking Florida anyway. Art
to Caeese, are your last future bet of the college
football preview show. You think Michigan will make the extended playoffs?
Tell us why?
Speaker 2: Best front seven in the country. I think if they
get anything out of Underwood, who's this dynamic, top top
quarterback recruit.
Speaker 3: And I also look at it too.
Speaker 2: The Committee always wants to put name brand teams in
and Michigan's obviously one of those. You look at the
schedule outside of Week two, when they have to go
to Oklahoma, they don't have to play Oregon, they don't
have to play Penn State, and they get Ohio State
at home, and they beat Ohio State last year.
Speaker 3: The schedule sets up really nice for them.
Speaker 2: I believe Michigan even with two losses, and I don't
even know if I see two losses with Michigan could
get It feels like a team who might only lose
one game. I like Michigan as low as plus one eighty,
as high as like plus two to twenty plus.
Speaker 3: Two thirty to make the playoff.
Speaker 2: If you can get in that two to one range,
I feel good about Michigan making the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Mister Andary, Well, they certainly have the video tape to
make sure they have a leg up on everybody. So
it'll be very interesting to see how that works out there,
ra Aret. But we all know it's gonna come down
to one thing, isn't it. They're gonna come down to
I think they play in November, right, can they keep
it rolling against you know who and roll right into
the postseason and a playoffs with an opportunity to win,
not a shortage of talent, but they can't lose games
they're supposed to win early on in this season. That's
and then they got Ohio State. Can they roll through them? Well,
they've had no problem doing it. What the last one
through four times they've played, so sure, why not Michigan
to the playoffs?
Speaker 1: There we go, uh, jordinary, what are your college football bets?
Speaker 4: Well, pre I gotta tell you, I think I think
Art nailed it there, and with good reason as to
why it is that we are getting so much Clemson
love in the marketplace, and it has everything to do
with this is exactly the kind of team that Dabos
Sweeney has won national championships with prior. We're talking about
Cage Klubnik, a starting quarterback, feels like he's been in
college forever, but he comes back with a whole lot
of weapons, not only running the ball, but of course
on the outside. The offensive line is one of the best.
It rates as one of the best in the country.
Here and listen, the problem for them last year was
their defense. They uncharacteristically gave up a ton of yards
last year and a ton of points. They addressed all
of that. I think Garrett Riley now in his second
full season is the OC. I think they're gonna put
up a ton of points on a lot of teams
the ACC. They don't have to play Miami, but they're
gonna roll through everybody else. I think Clemson not only
wins the ACC, but has a pretty good chance of
winning a national championship as well.
Speaker 1: Art what do you think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, Clempson was a team who was
in there last year. We know they always get players.
Club Nick is huge for us in the Heisman. I
think we've taken He's like second or third most bet
on player for US in the Heisman market. Obviously arches
number one Club Nicks in the top three. Their schedule
sets up real nice. They get SMU at home. Now,
they have to go at South Carolina at the end
of the year, which obviously is always a tough game,
but by that.
Speaker 3: Point they might already be in there.
Speaker 2: And they get LSU in the opening week, which is
a top ten team, but I think they're way better
than LSU. Clemson to me is a team who will
make the playoff and they'll win the ACC. And if
you could still get the ten out there, like I said,
we're offering ten but with highj it feels like they're
gonna go over that as well.
Speaker 1: We'll be exciting to watch arch. I don't understand what
happened to the I and the E. Maybe the pen
just ran out when they were naming him. But hey,
Cooper has something going. A kid that might make the
NFL one day, Joe Ranieri, Clemson to win it all,
Clemson to win the division, any other future bets.
Speaker 4: For Yeah, I'm gonna keep an eye on what happens
with OU this year. This is kind of a make
or break year for them and their former Clemson defensive
coordinator turned head coach there Listen, they had no quarterback
last year. They've had some issues, but they addressed them.
They went out and got John Meeter from Washington State.
The kid is absolutely a whole lot of fun to
watch play. He throws the ball all over the place.
They brought in a new oc to air it out.
They brought in Cal running back Jaden Ott, who's run
over everybody over the last three years. Here. Defense is
going to be good, but the schedule is virtually impossible.
I mean, OU has got a ridiculous schedule this year.
But I think they're gonna go over their win total.
I saw it at six and a half earlier. Art
I'm not sure if it's climbed up at all, but
I mean they have three true road games. South Carolina
very winnable. Tennessee is taking a step back, very winnable.
I'm not buying Alabama. I think they can. I think
this is the year he saves his job, and I
think this is the year that we can get eight
to nine wins out of ou.
Speaker 2: It's a low it's a low wind total. I mean,
I I could see where you're at now. The tough
one is that meat of the October at Texas, at
South Carolina, Ole miss at home at Tennessee. I mean,
that's a brutal stretch. And they still have to go
to at Alabam. They get my Michigan team at home,
and they end with lsu Man.
Speaker 3: That is a tough schedule.
Speaker 2: But I think you hit on it with the quarterback meter,
and they can only go up from here.
Speaker 3: With a low win total like that, they could get
the seven ones.
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like Ou, you like Clemson? Is there anything else we
need to know about?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Fade Miami at every chance you get, including against
Notre Dame in Game one. They are going to be
a train rack with Back once again.
Speaker 1: And that head coach.
Speaker 4: So I'm with you, Miami, total fade in the acc Uh.
Speaker 1: That team was just about to get it together art.
We saw them do really well a few decades ago,
then they disappeared, and then last year in the Year
of War, it looked like they were on the upswing.
Now Joe's saying, nope, they're gonna be like the Florida Panthers,
a team on decline. What do you think, Well.
Speaker 3: I'll say this week one Notre Dame. I love Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: In that game they have to go to SMU. Now,
speaking up Back, who I never loved it, Georgia. That's
another kid who we've taken a lot of love. In
the Heisman betting bunket he's in like the top five,
top six post bet on guys, so they're got love
with the coach. Now, he's not great, but I could
see just week in and week out, maybe looking for
spots to fade the U.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, my turn, I got three quick bets for you.
Two quick bets for you in college football. The first
one is the Florida Gators under seven and a half wins.
And look, let me bottom line this for you. DJ
Lagway has got a rocket hell of a quarterback twelve tds,
nine picks as a freshman. I think he's going to
do better this year, but I think the team is
going to regress. I think we're going to see a
regression from their running backs fourteen touchdowns last year. Their
O line legitimately one of the best, but I still
don't think good enough defense. They have a solid profile,
but they have a lot of problems, especially on the inside.
They also have an incredibly tough schedule an unbelievable division.
Joe and Aery I like them under seven and a
half wins, which is a shame because now we've already
spoken about Miami sucking. We think Florida. I think Florida
is going to go under. I think college football is
better when the Florida schools are playing better, but it
is what it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The schedule to me is I'm with price. Schedule
to me is absolutely brutal. And I love Billy Napier.
I think he deserves a lot of credit for what
he has done with very little over the last couple
of years. But I mean, Art, this schedule is brutal
to think they're gonna make it to nine wins again
this year. And I love Lagway, but my goodness, this
is going to be a rough go through for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in these schedule Yeah, yep, sorry, Art, go ahead, No, Yeah,
I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I'm with both of you. I love Lagway. I made
a comment to someone like two weeks ago, if Napier
and Florida can win eight or nine games and that
would be three or four losses, he should be coach
of the Year in the Nation and they should make
the playoff.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's how hard that schedule is.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're all on the same page.
Speaker 4: On the under.
Speaker 1: I really like the over for the Duke Blue Devils
six and a half, and I know it's juiced. I
get that but I think there's a lot of value here, Joe. Look,
we saw mike l Little Leave did not make any difference.
Many dayas shows up, they go nine to three. Now
they just got the two lane transfer Mensa. He played
great last year, twenty two touchdowns since six interceptions. I
don't think this Blue Devils team misses a beat. I
think they have a favorable schedule. They get Elon, they
get Yukon, Virginia, they get Wake, they have coin flips
with Illinois, Enze State, Georgia, Tech, Syracuse, Kel Tulane, and
you and c. I think we can get to seven.
I think there's a shot at eight. I like the
Blue Devils art over the total of six and a
half wins.
Speaker 2: I don't hate it because you just named three or
four games that feel like slam dunks for that. Yeah,
out of those coin flip games, if you just get
three of them, you're there. I don't hate it, Brenz.
Speaker 4: So all about the schedule, I'm with your many, Diaz.
I'll have that team very good set up. Defensively, they've
got they're gonna be able to run the ball. That
schedule favors them big time. I think that number is
way too low where it's way too low.
Speaker 1: At Joe and Art, this is a team I've been
looking to bet over in the last few years. Joe,
do you think that trend continues?
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely. Listen, it's all about the scheduling with them.
I mean, they're not going to wow you with all
their athletes, their college football players, but as long as
they're not beating themselves. Manny Diaz pretty good coach, Say
what you want, even though we don't know miss him
here in Miami very much. But listen, he's gonna have
the defense ready to go. If you can't beat Elon,
I don't know what to tell you, dude. Maybe Man,
he's not as good a coach as we think he is.
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