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<v Speaker 1>Your summer pocket knife of information. It's the only way

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, regular listeners, No, it's that time of week

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<v Speaker 1>we talk money with all Worth Financials. Brian James, Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. It's always pleasure to have you on. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to Aalworth for loaning out every Monday at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, mister Thomas, hope you had another good weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic weekend and a special shout out to my friends

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<v Speaker 1>in Westchester where the Hoodie memorial. Corey Hood died in

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<v Speaker 1>a tragic parachuting incident. He was a Golden Knight and

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<v Speaker 1>he was a huge, huge supporter of Westchester and Lakota

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<v Speaker 1>High School everywhere he went around the world as a

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Knight, he promoted the community and his love for

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<v Speaker 1>the community. And so they've honored his memory, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the tenth year for the fundraiser. They've established some

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<v Speaker 1>scholarships in his name, and they had me out every

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<v Speaker 1>year to speak a few words and kind of facilitate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just a glorious, glorious of it. It

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<v Speaker 1>always is one of those things that reminds you that

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much good going on in the world in

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<v Speaker 1>spite of the fact that we deal with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of crap each and every day in the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my neck of the ones.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, it is wonderful that that that story has

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<v Speaker 3>gotten out there, and it seems to be growing every

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<v Speaker 3>single year.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The silver lining of it is, well, now his story

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<v Speaker 3>is out there, the kind of person he was and

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<v Speaker 3>what he stood for.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, and the fact that he's I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these are twenty two five hundred dollars scholarships that they

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<v Speaker 1>now they've got the scholarship fully funded. They've been so

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<v Speaker 1>successful with the fundraising efforts they don't have to add

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<v Speaker 1>another dime to that. The return on investment will cover

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<v Speaker 1>the annual scholarship. So they have two other scholarships that

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<v Speaker 1>they're working to get to that point. But great people

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<v Speaker 1>out there. They're just so fun and welcoming, and again

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those I really needed this event kind

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<v Speaker 1>of moment is the way I feel every year about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, because here I am surrounded by bad news

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, division and intolerance and beat downs, and

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<v Speaker 1>you show up and something like that. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>the world is still sane. The world is still a

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<v Speaker 1>great place.

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<v Speaker 3>There are people out there who aren't in conflict and

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<v Speaker 3>arguing with each other at all times.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I get out of the event. So that'll

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<v Speaker 1>carry me now for a month or maybe two, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'll be back to filling blue and misery.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean, like for the next ten to fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, all right, let's pivot over. Donald Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>been having a real problem with each FED chair Jerome Powell.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been screaming and clamoring for Powell to lower the

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<v Speaker 1>interest right, and of course the most recent meeting of

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<v Speaker 1>the Federal Open Mouth Committee is ed. Think you used

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<v Speaker 1>to call it, held the rates at where they are,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what four point five percent? So no lowering

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<v Speaker 1>of the rates and what the last five times they met,

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<v Speaker 1>they've kept it the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's pretty much right. We're the FED does not

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<v Speaker 3>move quickly. We don't want to spook anything. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to spook the herd. That's always been the way

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<v Speaker 3>the FED has thought. And so they stepped lightly. Like

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<v Speaker 3>we've talked about a couple times in these airwaves. The

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the President apparently has established the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>change his mind on a dime. Today, we're putting tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>against a certain country at a certain percentage. Tomorrow, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna hold off on that. Federal Reserve chairs do

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<v Speaker 3>not have that luxury. They cannot spook the market like that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's going to cause more problems than it solves. So

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<v Speaker 3>they're not moving fast enough anyway, although I don't believe

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<v Speaker 3>any FED chair will be able to move fast enough

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<v Speaker 3>to keep President Trump happy.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this case, there's also behind this. There's just

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<v Speaker 2>a difference in philosophy.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump feels an interest rates should have been on the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, months, if not years ago, and fedshair Pale

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<v Speaker 3>is feeling a little differently about that in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>his face is on this. So he has to be

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<v Speaker 3>the one making the right decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not his unilateral decision. It is made up

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<v Speaker 1>of a board of governors. I think. What there are

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<v Speaker 1>seven members that make up the Federal Board, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>they all sort of say and is it a majority

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<v Speaker 1>opinion on whether to raise or lower rates? Yes, it is, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a board of governors out there, and two

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<v Speaker 3>of them recently came out last week and said that

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<v Speaker 3>they felt like it's time to start lower interest rates.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not too shocking either, because you know that

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers are starting to come out. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that a little bit themselves, of course, but

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<v Speaker 3>they are starting to come out in favor of what

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<v Speaker 3>ter Powell. Chair Powell wants to act on more evidence

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<v Speaker 3>in general, so he's a little bit slower than some

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<v Speaker 3>have been in the past, but those numbers are coming out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's looking more and more like we're going to see

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<v Speaker 3>a rad cut here in September. So we may we

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<v Speaker 3>looks like we may very well get what the president

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<v Speaker 3>is is it has been asking for in what some

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<v Speaker 3>of the political population believe as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just not happening fast enough to keep everybody happy.

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<v Speaker 1>But they can only raise or lower rates at these

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Open Market Committees meetings, and they only have those.

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<v Speaker 3>How often once a month, so once a month, so

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<v Speaker 3>and they yeah, they can't really go off psyche. Well

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<v Speaker 3>that's not chilly, So they've done it in the past,

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<v Speaker 3>but both real references not to uh, the preference is

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<v Speaker 3>not to do that because again, it just tends to

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<v Speaker 3>rattle things too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like Trump's tariffs. You know, if if they're on

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<v Speaker 1>one day and off the next, you can't adjust for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least I suppose knowing that one month from

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<v Speaker 1>the last meeting, you're going to get another meeting where

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<v Speaker 1>the option is there could be the lower rates or

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<v Speaker 1>raised and we're keeping the same there's only, like I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>one month worth of stability. So it's really not that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in what we're trying to do with these kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of things, remember what businesses have to make decisions. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a business out there that wants to build a

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<v Speaker 3>factory or something like that and create jobs. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sort of making this up as hypothetical example, but somebody

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<v Speaker 3>out there is sitting in a conference room right now

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<v Speaker 3>trying to decide do we execute this loan with this

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<v Speaker 3>bank right now or do we wait six weeks in

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<v Speaker 3>this end of September and see what the Federal Reserve

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<v Speaker 3>is going to do because we could get a better

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<v Speaker 3>interest rate out of the deal. So you know, there

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<v Speaker 3>are this is something there has to be some predictability

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<v Speaker 3>to it, where if I'm trying to make a decision

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to employ hundreds of thousands of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>build build some factories, as the President is wanting here, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>then I need to know what my bank financing terms

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of that comes right out of the Fed.

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<v Speaker 3>So I need to be able to understand what they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to do and the timing of when they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to do it, not this afternoon is different from tomorrow morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we've had this conversation with the subject of mortgages.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a kind of a cosmic crabshoot are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to go up or are they going to go down?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when we bought our first home, there

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<v Speaker 1>was really big question mark as with the direction they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to go. So lock it in, but recognize

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<v Speaker 1>you could always refinance at some point in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean businesses can do that. I suppose the interest

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<v Speaker 1>rate is really more about the federal government and the

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<v Speaker 1>interest they pay on the T bills.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So interest rates are manipulated two ways, directly from

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<v Speaker 3>the Federal from the Fed, and whatever the market wants

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<v Speaker 3>to do. The market has its own opinions and it

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<v Speaker 3>will drive bonds up and down, and that has an

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<v Speaker 3>effect on interest rates itself. So both of those two

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<v Speaker 3>things result in what a might a company might sign

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<v Speaker 3>off on, or an individual on a mortgage. Both of

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<v Speaker 3>those impact exactly what those numbers are that appear on

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Since I know we're gonna be talk about

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<v Speaker 1>viuera labor statistics and the Donald Trump's rather his reaction

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<v Speaker 1>to the statistics that we're handed out. What are the

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<v Speaker 1>various statistics just generally speaking, that the FED looks at

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<v Speaker 1>in making a determination. Obviously labor rates are one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>but what are the others? So the FED is look

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<v Speaker 1>get CPI. The FED has a dual mandate.

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<v Speaker 3>Their job is to keep employment at full employment, which

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<v Speaker 3>is never one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 2>That makes no sense when we have one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 2>employment or near it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when you see companies like McDonald's offering signing bonuses

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<v Speaker 3>because they can simply can't find workers. So full employment

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<v Speaker 3>is more like ninety five percent employment. And they want

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<v Speaker 3>to keep prices under control. That is their primary role.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a million statistics and reports and all kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>things that they look at, but it basically has to

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<v Speaker 3>do with employment and CPI. Those are the two things.

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<v Speaker 3>If we keep those under control, keep those where we

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<v Speaker 3>want them. We want employment around ninety five percent ish

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<v Speaker 3>and we want inflation around two to two and a

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<v Speaker 3>quarter something like that. We're a little bit higher than

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<v Speaker 3>that now, but we are well off our nine percent

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<v Speaker 3>crazy highs from a few summers ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're definitely training in the right direction.

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<v Speaker 3>We just haven't actually ticked the box that would give

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<v Speaker 3>a green light to Jerome Pale in his own thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and going back to the Board of Governors, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand Governor Adrianna Kugler stepped down early. It was reported.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I recalled reading and correct me if I'm wrong, Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>it's we have you here for She was angry that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't lower the rate, so she stepped down off

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<v Speaker 1>the Board of Governors. Have I got the background on

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<v Speaker 1>that one, right? Yeah? There was.

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<v Speaker 2>So she announced in August.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the other day that she was going to step down,

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<v Speaker 3>but she was supposed to be around till January thirty. First,

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't really give a clear reason in her letter,

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<v Speaker 3>her resignation letter, but she did state her she does

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<v Speaker 3>want to go back to academia and all those kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of things. This is coming alongside that, you can kind

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<v Speaker 3>of conclude that perhaps she didn't want to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure that's going on between the President and Jerome Powell.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't even go to the meeting most recently. So,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all of this is speculation. It's not fair

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<v Speaker 3>to guess what's in somebody's head, but you know you can.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can kind of infer from the lack

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<v Speaker 3>of information that she shared about her decision that whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it was probably would have caused more conflict and she

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<v Speaker 3>was trying to avoid that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's just the border of governors are nominated by

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<v Speaker 1>the President, confirmed by the Senate. I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump will get a an interest rate cut hawk

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<v Speaker 1>in the you for this. How quickly can this turn

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<v Speaker 3>That's something I'm not sure to be able to be

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<v Speaker 3>that President Trump definitely has and he's not the only one.

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<v Speaker 3>I would be fairly confidence saying whoever gets nominated is

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<v Speaker 3>different perspective now. At the same time, remember he put

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you made that point because I had forgotten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a product of his own making in many respects.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can't read the future. You have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to come to blows with your appointees.

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<v Speaker 1>Down the road more with Brian James from all Worth Financial,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about labor statistics, something else that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the skin of Donald Trump, and job loss.

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<v Speaker 1>A job loss is a consequence of it. First, though,

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<v Speaker 1>Affordable Imaging Services. We are talking about money, and this

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<v Speaker 1>my listener friend Fred out there who said he saved

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<v Speaker 1>He saved thirty one hundred dollars. Jeff got a CT scan.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten three of them. Affordable imaging services. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>radiologist report. It's low overhead. Folks, don't expect all these

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it's about. Five three seven, five three eight thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>all out online Affordable Meddimaging dot com. Fifty five krc OHC,

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnata KRCD Talk station. By the time of week, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked money and it's money money with Brian James, and

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of money matters, Brian completely unrelated to the labor

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<v Speaker 1>stats that we're going to talk about here in a moment. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the community, across the entire country included, is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that beat down that Saturday and the woman

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<v Speaker 1>Holly who got punched in the face. Somebody sent me

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<v Speaker 1>a link to the gives Send Go campaign, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where you can contribute to help her deal with her

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<v Speaker 1>medical issues and everything. Three hundred and forty thousand, nine

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<v Speaker 1>That is absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that was a huge attention to get

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<v Speaker 3>her for our for our city here, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>we'll get through it like we've gotten passed everything through

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<v Speaker 3>everything in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's never smooth.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, yeah, I think this one

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<v Speaker 3>is there's some obvious changes that are pretty much screaming

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<v Speaker 3>out there, and I would say, have three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>Me, there you go. And these are all pretty small contributions.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten bucks here, fifteen bucks there. It's like every little

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<v Speaker 1>a compounding interest and return on that, so it's the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing to do. Start planning for your future. They're

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<v Speaker 1>a little plug for getting a financial plan. Excellent segue there, miss,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you might like that, all right, Moving back

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the statistics that the FED does calculate

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<v Speaker 1>and determined or look at into determining whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>to raise or lower maintain interest rates where they are

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<v Speaker 1>labor statistics. I understand Donald Trump fired the label Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Statistics Commissioner because he wasn't happy over what he described

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<v Speaker 1>as the biggest miscalculation in over fifty years. What's the

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<v Speaker 1>story on this one, Brian, Well, yes, we all know.

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<v Speaker 2>When you don't like the news, what do you do?

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<v Speaker 3>You shoot the messenger because obviously that's the solution to

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<v Speaker 3>these types of things. So anyway, yeah, so, as President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump just did something no modern president has ever done.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody has ever fired the Bureau of Labor Statistics head

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<v Speaker 3>right after a report comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not in love with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay with some of the things we've done to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to change our standing and you know, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>force other countries to pay their fair share for NATO

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<v Speaker 3>support and even up on tariffs all that stuff. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been feeling like overdue moves, but stuff like this to me,

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<v Speaker 3>just completely undermines his legacy. He's reacting to the July

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<v Speaker 3>report showed only seventy three thousand new jobs. That was

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<v Speaker 3>far below expectations. But the bigger point, Remember the Bureau

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<v Speaker 3>of Labor Statistics. What they do is they gather surveys.

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<v Speaker 3>They literally ask companies how many people did you hire

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<v Speaker 3>this month? And companies will respond, And of course, just

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<v Speaker 3>like any other survey you get via email, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>respond right away, usually you don't, but anyway, it takes

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<v Speaker 3>of sending that out, they will continue to receive responses.

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<v Speaker 1>To this survey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's where those revisions come from. It's not the

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<v Speaker 3>Bureau of Labor Statistics screwing things up. It's companies just

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<v Speaker 3>not responding in a timely manner to government surveys, which

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<v Speaker 3>you know you can't do that anyway. But the news

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<v Speaker 3>here as the revision was downward by over a quarter

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<v Speaker 3>million jobs. That is a really really big miss. And

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<v Speaker 3>rather than deal with the headlines of possible slowing economy,

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump just decided that that I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and let me get this straight. If they came

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<v Speaker 1>out with a number that was accurate, Let's say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a you know, a gazillion jobs out there and

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<v Speaker 1>the unemployment rate went down, that would result in the

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<v Speaker 1>Fed not wanting to lower interest rates. Right, So didn't

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<v Speaker 1>her initial number sort of bolster the argument for lowering

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates or if I if I might confuse.

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<v Speaker 3>On this, Brian, No, And that's the slightly frustrating part,

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<v Speaker 3>Like we were talking about earlier this morning. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the FED chair pal definitely wants He's had a history

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<v Speaker 3>and most of the FED chairs have a history of

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to rely on data and not gut feel when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to making these huge interest rates decisions. So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the the the actual numbers that were coming out, even

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<v Speaker 3>these revisions are speaking toward Yeah, it's probably time to

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<v Speaker 3>lower interest rates because the economy is definitely slowing and whoops,

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<v Speaker 3>it may be slowing a little faster. Were stomping on

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<v Speaker 3>the brain a little fashion that we wanted to. That

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<v Speaker 3>is a recipe for Yep, it's time to lower interest rates.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why I feel pretty confident that September is

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<v Speaker 2>But it also speaks to I think it's the it's

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<v Speaker 3>It's how quickly those revisions came down That angered the

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's bad for politics. Goodness great, that is

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<v Speaker 1>bad visibility, bad optics. First, great, job numbers would result

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<v Speaker 1>are good for your politics. See my plot, my plan,

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<v Speaker 1>my economic policy. Everything's working. Look at the numbers. But

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<v Speaker 1>then you start screaming about lowering interest rates. That flies

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<v Speaker 1>in the face of the success you're having and the

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, this president is not very tolerant of really

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<v Speaker 3>any negative headlines at all. So fortunately the market seems

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<v Speaker 3>to see through at the The market came down a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit on Friday, and as we're sitting here right now,

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<v Speaker 3>futures are up about a half point or so.

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<v Speaker 2>So the market does tend to see through this, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It won't tolerate it very long. The market absolutely hates

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<v Speaker 3>the overall stock market is wonderful at sniffing out baloney,

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<v Speaker 3>and it will come through there. If we're really trying

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<v Speaker 3>to tout that the economy is wonderful, but we're hemorrhaging

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<v Speaker 3>jobs left and right.

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<v Speaker 2>You will see it in the stock market a right.

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<v Speaker 1>But the late Burea Labor Statistics Commissioner Eric Macintarfer's calculations

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<v Speaker 1>which resulted in her firing. It's regularly, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>said it. It's want to sort of emphasize it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>normal for them to provide revised figures, maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit after, maybe a long after, but they always look

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<v Speaker 1>back and correct the record based upon the actual evidence

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<v Speaker 1>when it finally comes in. So this is not unusual, No.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And in fact, I went back to the past couple

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<v Speaker 3>of presidents. So the Trump's first administration for twenty seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty twenty, the average revision was an average increase

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<v Speaker 3>of seventy three thousand jobs. That sounds like a big

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<v Speaker 3>number on an absolute terms, but it's relatively small when

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about three hundred million people in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>But when during those revisions at that time, generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>the bias was up. Those revisions usually or positive. Under

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<v Speaker 3>Biden from twenty one to twenty four, the more recent

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<v Speaker 3>ones about one hundred thousand jobs on average, and usually

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<v Speaker 3>they were in a more downward direction, and Obama was

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, the point is not the numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>The point is that these revisions have happened, and do happen,

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<v Speaker 3>and always will happen. The head of the BLS gets

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<v Speaker 3>two days to do whatever he or she is going

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<v Speaker 3>to do with the data. They don't get to audit it,

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<v Speaker 3>and all that has to come out as basically as

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<v Speaker 3>not much chance that she would have had to manipulate it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go ahead and throw out there that there's

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<v Speaker 3>a zero chance that Trump gave any time to look

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<v Speaker 3>for the data, to look for any evidence that this

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<v Speaker 3>is an accurate assertion of his that the data is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>He simply didn't like the numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, Brian James. One more and this, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a rhetorical question. Should high schoolers have to

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<v Speaker 1>take a personal finance course? I'm all in for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we said segment Brian, it's been a good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>We're just gonna call that a guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, fuss one more with money Monday's Bride James. After

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<v Speaker 1>It is a thirty here fifty five car cud talk station.

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<v Speaker 1>What more with anybody? Is Brian James and in a

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<v Speaker 1>very very important topic, and I'm surprised that schools are

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<v Speaker 1>not already required to require high schoolers to take a

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<v Speaker 1>personal finance course. In a basic budget management for the home,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, small scale microeconomics. You learn how to balance

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<v Speaker 1>your checkbook otherwise not spend more money than you take in.

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<v Speaker 1>You have an appreciation not over spending. And then by

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<v Speaker 1>learning that knowledge, you can then criticize government and its

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<v Speaker 1>runaway spending and it's deficit spending and appreciate that I

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<v Speaker 1>can't run my home that way? How is it that

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<v Speaker 1>politicians can run our government that way? Turning everybody into

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<v Speaker 1>a fiscal conservative? Brian James, this is Is there any

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<v Speaker 1>opposition to this concept of requiring the some just a

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<v Speaker 1>semester of a basic home economics kind of thing for finance.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody stands in the way of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a lot of people who aren't in

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<v Speaker 3>power and don't make thesecisians who would really really like

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<v Speaker 3>to see it out there. I saw a meme floating around.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen it like five times. Maybe you run across

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<v Speaker 3>it too. Where As the guy says me, how do

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<v Speaker 3>I balance my checkbook? Public school shut up in square dance,

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<v Speaker 3>and that brings me perfect memories. I remember square dancing

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<v Speaker 3>and wondering why I was square dancing, you know, back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day. But yeah, so remember we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a Department of Education anymore, so there's no there isn't

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<v Speaker 3>a federal mandate, nor will there be a federal mandate.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are a lot of states out there who

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<v Speaker 3>are doing this, So this is not a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the article we stumbled across with the Colorado's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>is putting something in place.

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<v Speaker 2>They are the twenty eighth state.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's more than half the country, half the states

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<v Speaker 3>in the country out there that do have some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of requirements for financial literacy around budgeting, saving, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you deal with credit and debt, leasing versus buying all

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<v Speaker 3>those kinds of things. And I do know some of

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<v Speaker 3>the schools that I've had direct experience with through my

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<v Speaker 3>own family actually do have some pretty strong programs in place.

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<v Speaker 3>So despite the headlines, I think there's more financial education

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<v Speaker 3>out there that is happening. It's just kind of hitting

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<v Speaker 3>the headlines a little more as more and more states

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<v Speaker 3>get on on board. But there never will be a

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<v Speaker 3>federal mandate on this because we just dismantled the entire

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<v Speaker 3>Department of Education, so we will not have a voice

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<v Speaker 3>from the federal.

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<v Speaker 1>L I'd like to read the Constitution for what it says,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no Dick Todd in the federal Constitution that

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<v Speaker 1>says it's supposed to tell us locally here in whatever

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<v Speaker 1>school board what we are supposed to teach. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>local issue and it's a state driven issue.

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<v Speaker 2>But square dancing is federally managed.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. You know why, because people take federal

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in federal government always put strings attached on those dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't bother me that the federal government isn't

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<v Speaker 1>mandating something. But this is clearly bipartisan in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>how much sense it makes.

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<v Speaker 3>It is yet really nobody can argue against this, and

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio has something in place too, So we've got a

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<v Speaker 3>situation here in this state where we've already made these decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>So Ohio does require that this goes from July first

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two is when it started. But all public the

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<v Speaker 3>students who are in grade nine and beyond have to

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<v Speaker 3>earn a half a credit in financial literacy can be

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<v Speaker 3>an elective or a math credit or whatever, but it

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<v Speaker 3>can't be part of their social studies. Graduation requirements to

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<v Speaker 3>be part of the of the finance and that represents

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<v Speaker 3>about sixty hours of instruction under law. So we do

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<v Speaker 3>have some rules and standards and there I have seen

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<v Speaker 3>some of the things that are coming out of the schools,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm actually from my perch here as a financial advisor.

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<v Speaker 2>I like what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Could I anticipated it'll change conversations I had with young

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<v Speaker 3>people in the next ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's wonderful news. Now it kind of bothers me.

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<v Speaker 1>This article of California Colorado Education Association, and this goes

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<v Speaker 1>back to your square dancing. If you have time to

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<v Speaker 1>teach square dancing, and question mark why you would allocate

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<v Speaker 1>scarce time in the school teaching square dancing and not

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<v Speaker 1>like reading, writing, and arithmetic. Colorado Education Association had concerns

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<v Speaker 1>that this requirement would increase workload for teachers and staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boo hoo, Well, just take away the DEI training

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<v Speaker 1>and workload and your training and social issues and focus

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<v Speaker 1>on something that's valuable to every single student in the classroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then there's something to be said for that.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, and I had, I had a great educational experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't mean, I don't mean to come down

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<v Speaker 3>in any of it, But the things that I look

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<v Speaker 3>back on, I remember examples such as when we first

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<v Speaker 3>got computers. When computers were very first a thing, the

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<v Speaker 3>teachers wanted nothing to do with them. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking this is back, this is back before the days

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<v Speaker 3>of Oregon Express or Oregon Trail or whatever that thing was.

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<v Speaker 2>But they didn't want to touch it at all.

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<v Speaker 3>They simply wanted to get us in the room so

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<v Speaker 3>that the computer expert would would basically take over.

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<v Speaker 2>For that half hour forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think I think we are in a

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<v Speaker 3>situation with this stuff where it can be tough to pull,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of what their background is.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they know history, maybe they know mathematics, but they

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<v Speaker 3>don't know the personal finance side themselves. Remember, I have

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<v Speaker 3>a job for a reason. Not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>know how to put the puzzle pieces together. So throwing

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<v Speaker 3>them in and asking them to teach this curriculum can

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<v Speaker 3>be a challenge. Well I'll take that at face value.

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<v Speaker 3>But they're adults, and they have their own families, and

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<v Speaker 3>they make a salary annually. I would like to think

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<v Speaker 3>that they have the basic skill sets to manage teaching.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, ignorant wide eyed youths, some basic financial strategy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not like it's rocket science.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's also a lot of ignorant, white eyed adult Again,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I have a job.

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<v Speaker 2>I love what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that happened, and they're teaching your children or not,

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<v Speaker 1>as the case may be. Brian James, thanks to get

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<v Speaker 1>all were financial for load and yet I always appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>our conversations. I'll look forward to next month in another edition.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you have a fantastic week, my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Back at you, Brian. We'll talk to you next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Donovan's Cares that's the website, Donovan's Cares chr S and

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<v Speaker 1>they do Dale Donovan and the team. We're gonna hear

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<v Speaker 1>from Dane Donovan about the car giveaway. They have a car,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been fully repaired, ready to hit the ground running

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<v Speaker 1>for someone in need, out in the community. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>learn from Dane about this in the next segment. I

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