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Speaker 1: Stoss ship.

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Speaker 4: Now, the Prezenski model, the Technicrown model, was much more

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interested in the incremental SLOCIALABI approach.

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Speaker 5: To bring the techno proceed into being.

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Speaker 2: So they're not gonna.

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Speaker 5: Send the Homeland security troops to round you up and

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put you in a FEMA camp.

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Speaker 4: They'd much rather promote everybody being in mesh, video games,

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the Disney.

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Speaker 5: Gulog, the virtual reality gulog. All this kind of stuff

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is much better FEMA camp in your home.

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Speaker 2: They don't need the FEMA camp.

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Speaker 7: It's all the nonsense of all the patriot crap on

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the radio.

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Speaker 6: That's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 7: They don't need to the shadow of the global government

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is already here. And as we said that it's in

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the latter stages of the mopping up process to move it.

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Speaker 6: Into the next phase, and i e. Between two ages

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of the next age. Once you have atheism, there's not

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really any foundation. Anything can come and up.

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Speaker 1: Slish fishlish English Sish ship fish ship a ship the

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ships ash ash ash flshsh i.

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Speaker 8: I can you hear it?

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Speaker 6: Welcome, Welcome, welcome? What's up?

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Speaker 8: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 6: I can hear you? Can you hear me?

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Speaker 8: Yep?

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Speaker 6: Can beloved audience hear us? Let's see what they say?

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So my beautiful fiance is joining us for the holy

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mountain breakdown. By the way, it occurred to me too

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when we were talking about doing this, to discuss other

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holy mountains, to contrast this with like Mount Sinai or

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Mount Athos. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Uh Mount Everest.

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Speaker 6: That's not a holy mountain.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, like in Tibet, those mountains are holy in

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the Buddhen Okay, but you.

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Speaker 6: Know what I mean. I'm saying that the holy mountain

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of this movie is demonaic. Yes, the holy mountains that

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are actually holy are not silent. Yeah, but don't they

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in that one part mentioned uh Everest or they mentioned

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a bunch of different ones, you know I'm talking about. Yeah,

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when he's given the Magic Circle lecture and he's like,

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all right, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna storm

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these mountains.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and.

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Speaker 8: He's basically saying all the religions are the same.

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Speaker 6: Exactly. We'll get to that. So hold on, save all that.

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Shout out to noble. We got five bucks from him,

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Orthodox pilgrim shout out, he sent five bucks. Welcome everybody.

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Of course, stream labs is the new way to do

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the super chats. I've put the link in many times

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so you can go there in the in the show description.

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It's also in the chat to do your super chat

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via stream labs. And it will this gay g a

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e gay zombie will pop up and he will run

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across the stream doing He'll do the running man in

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running in place, and I will remember big bucks, big bucks. No,

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why that stupid game show? Exactly? I can't get that

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boomer era games show? How are you?

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Speaker 8: Yep?

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Speaker 6: So Jamie has joined me because she the Internet says

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she is an Illuminati witch, so she is here to

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help me decode this movie.

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Speaker 8: Right you FROs for a second, what'd you say?

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Speaker 6: I said, since you're an Illuminati witch according to Internet,

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you are here. You are here to help me decode

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this movie.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just kidding, ha ha my specialty.

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Speaker 6: Can everybody hear Jamie? Okay, she's a little low for me,

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but uh, let's make sure Bacon here. I think I

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so maybe I'll try a little bit more. Does it

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sound good, everybody? And then we'll get to rocking. By

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the way, you can if you want to remember that

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the website is by subscription, so I have the purchase

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a subscription link in the show description for this episode.

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You can go to the website to access all of

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the based hot smoking, hot fire content at Jay's analysis,

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good Sounds Good, and then stream labs. If you don't know,

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it's just the replacement for superchats, so it's on a

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different website. That's the link that I've shared many times.

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superchat that way. Basically functions the same way as before,

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except we get the gae Whammy zombie that runs and

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does the Roger Rabbit? Is it Roger Rabbit or Running Man?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 8: Running Man? Yeah? Okay he does both? Does he?

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Speaker 5: They have?

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Speaker 6: You're freezing up your internet?

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Speaker 8: You're breaking up?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's on your end because I have an excellent connection. Okay, Well, well,

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if we have to, we might have to turn off

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your beautiful face. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean in real life, I don't mean on zoom.

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Can you put on a mask that covers all of

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your like a blank mask? Remember that?

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Speaker 6: There was a twilights on episode we watched like that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Or they made everybody's faces look it was like a

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plastic surgery, predictive Twiley zone. Remember that?

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Speaker 8: Was that the one with the pig faces?

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Speaker 6: I think so?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and ugly was normal looking and beautiful was.

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Speaker 7: The pig bang?

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Speaker 6: Yes, there you go. Yeah, I've always been soft. It's

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just a soft lighting, my friend. I'm not actually a

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soft person. I'm soft deep down in my heart. But

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I also have soft lighting in here. So that's why

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I appear to be soft. Jamie can confirm that I'm

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a pure soft soy boy deep down right.

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Speaker 6: The chat SAYSM soft.

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Speaker 8: If I don't react because you're skippy.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna weep now, the chat SAYSM soft. Okay, So

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super chats are stream labs now, thank you guys. We've

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already had a few of those. Much appreciated. We've got

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two hundred nerds. I know we haven't talked about this movie.

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Where is your analysis? Of Holy Mountain. Well, I tried

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many times over the years to watch Holy Mountain, and

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I found it to be, as you can imagine, very

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disturbing and difficult to wouldn't you agree, Jamie. It's a

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gross movie. It's blasphemous.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know if I can do this.

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Speaker 8: It stopped and started again for me.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so you're gonna have to turn off your camera

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because you know your bandwidth is not gonna do well.

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just be you audio you see. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Is that better?

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Speaker 8: Is that better?

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Speaker 6: You're not choppy so far?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Okay. So now I'm gonna have to put a picture

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of something up there. I can cover you up. I'll

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make you What do you want to be? Do you

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want to be something from Holy Mountain? What do I

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have on my desktop? Do you want me to put?

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I put my face up there, and I'm just talking

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Speaker 8: You have a picture of both of thems?

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Speaker 6: No, I threw all those away. A lipeis prior. He

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sends five bucks. He says, thank you for all your work.

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Speaker 1: Jay.

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Speaker 6: I was just brought into orthodoxy. Thank you man, much appreciated.

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Glad to hear that welcome to the church. I wish

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we were in better times, but it is what it is.

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the gay zombie. He doesn't pop up anyway. Okay, Jamie,

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we'll just do it this way. We can't see your

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beautiful face, but we'll see my beautiful face and it'll

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make up for your beautiful face. Okay, all right, So

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Holy Mountain. We know Jodorowski is an esotericist, and we

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I guess a couple actually of the pretty prominent esoteric

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and occultic film. So I want to give a caveat

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from the outset that I'm not recommending people watch this movie.

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I'm only doing it because of so many recommendations to

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cover the movie over the many years that we've been

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doing this. Because the movie, I will forewarn you, it

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is gross and it's pretty blasphemous in the first you know,

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I don't know, thirty minutes, and then it gets weirder

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and weirder, but.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 6: You can decode it. I think we have a pretty

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good overall decoding of the totality of it. And of course,

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Speaker 8: Buddhists.

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Speaker 6: Well, there's a perennialist syncretist. You know, all religions are

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the same ethos to him, right, So we'll definitely.

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Speaker 8: Get into she studied it e there, Yeah, he studied

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under somems and masters.

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Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, and now that there's a Sufi influence as well.

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let's get into before we start the analysis. Tell me

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your overall sense of the movie. How many times have

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you seen it? I've only seen it once. I think

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we've decoded it pretty well. We've read a lot of

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this kind of material over the years. What's your overall

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sense of the movie And do you find it weird

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and gross and distasteful and yet it's but nasty but

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it's also predictive. Yes.

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it was kind of like a movie that you have

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to It's weird, man like, it's trippy, you got to

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see it, and so all the hippies were like, got

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to see Holy Mountain. And I watched it, and I

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didn't know as much about occult and magic and stuff

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as the next time I watched it. I just kind

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of thought it was allvant garde and mystical blasphemous. For sure.

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I didn't enjoy the The overarching narrative of Jesus is

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the thief.

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Speaker 6: Can you speak a little louder into the microphone you're

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a little.

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Speaker 8: Is that okay? Okay? And yeah, the second time I

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watched it, I what stuck out to me was the

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vignettes of the planets, because then I was a lot

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deeper into the stuff and occult stuff, and so I

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was watching it with you know, doing for me, and

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the planet vignettes had so much more stuff in them

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that I had about is predictive and weird and esoteric.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that, I mean, do you have notes or you don't?

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Do you want me to leave with?

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Speaker 8: But yeah, you go, I have like five.

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Speaker 6: Pages of notes, So I'll lead often. So the idea,

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if you don't know, the film is presenting basically a

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in a symbolic and allegorical and alchemical phases form a

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story of basically a magician Amegas teaching different adepts their

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way to transcend limitations, achieve apotheosis, and ascend and storm

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the Holy Mountain.

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Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, he's an alchemist.

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Speaker 6: He is the alchemist. Right, he's a magist. And so

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the film begins. What we're going to we're what we're

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going to see is a planetary celestial sphere journey, right,

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the different planets. If you don't know, the ancient medieval world,

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they viewed the universe having these concentric spheres which the

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planets rotate in, which make musical noise sounds. Newton even

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believe this, as it is popular all the way up

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I actually believe that there's probably something to that. I

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actually do believe that there's probably something to these different

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levels of spiritual worlds, so to speak. And we know

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that in the tradition of the angelology of the Church,

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there are celestial powers, right, there are planetary celestial angels

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that relate to different things in the universe. God has

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created the universe with the nine choirs of the angels,

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and the thrones, principalities, powers, dominions, et cetera rule the

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universe under God. So God has chosen to have regents

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and vice regents and co rulers through the angels, the

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noetic celestial beings that one third of which rebelled against

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God and became the fallen angels or the demons, and

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they are of course united with Satan. This is the

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biblical cosmology. But what we're gonna and we need to

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know that because what we're gonna see when we get

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into Holy Mountain is the pretty standard, the typical gnostic

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and slash Luciferian, occultic hermetic inversion of the Biblical narrative.

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Speaker 8: Right you agree, Mm, yeah, it's a big missmash you

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speak up, please everything I said, it's a big mishmash

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of everything, right, Okay, all right.

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Speaker 6: So we're gonna start with the celestial spheres. Okay. So

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here we have so ceremonial magic ritual washings being shaven

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and shorn. We see people going through what will be

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an initiatory practice, and we see these phases of chemical process. Right,

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so there's the Rubeedo Negredo calcification right, the four stages

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of alchemy, and then it leads to the Philosopher's Stone,

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and all of the religions are in different ways pictured.

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the all seeing eye, to ancient Hindu Vedic imagery to

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even quasi almost Christian iconography with the it almost looks

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like tarot cards as icons, like an Orthodox Church, but

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with occult icons. Remember that sequence. And so you'll see

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all this mystic imagery of keys and all seeing eyes

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and flying serpents and cubes, all of which is really

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just classified under the seven planets right in the ancient

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medieval alchemical view. And we also see the tarot archetypes

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of the fool.

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Speaker 8: We see don't we see a frog Christ figure in

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there is the fool?

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Speaker 6: Well, this is important because we want to this is Waly,

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the first important figure. So we have a Christ figure. Yeah,

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and this is the esoteric gnostic version of who Jesus is.

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So this is not actually Jesus obviously, this is the

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gnostic alchemical magician version of Jesus. Right, this is the idea, dude, bro,

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what if Jesus is a magician or right? You know

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this is this has been a popular idea for a

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what's interesting is in the beginning when it de

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pans on him, it shows him laying down and he's

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drunk and he soiled himself.

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Speaker 6: Forgot it. And then there's there's a nugget person who

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smokes cigarettes.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so he's laying in the ditch, and so this

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is what is this saying, like, this is not a

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divine person. This is just a human being like the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a kind of a wandering vagabond figure who

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it starts trying to kind of create his own little

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minstrel show, almost like he's like trying to set up

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a vaudeville act. And he finds this nugget guy, meaning

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a person with no arms and less and he gets it.

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I don't know how does he have cigarettes? He has

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an arms, look anyway, but he gets a cigarette from

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this nugget man and he from micromachines. Gub gub how's

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it go.

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Speaker 8: Two gub gub sneel man.

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Speaker 6: Test tub gub gub Snowman gives him a cigarette and

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he decides that he wants that they could work together,

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and basically, you got hippie Jesus. Right, So, hippie vagabond,

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it's a what do you call the a whook like

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a festival dude.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, is that what it is? Yeah, it's like a

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guy with dreadlocks, dirty with dreadlocks.

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Speaker 6: And a dirty, stinking festival boy.

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Speaker 8: But this character you're talking about, his the name of

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his character is called the Monster.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I didn't know that. You talking about the nugget

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or the Jesus character. Yeah, yeah, okay, because we'll figure out.

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We'll see that later on. He's a spirit who possesses right,

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remember when they do the extorcism.

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Speaker 8: You're breaking up again?

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Speaker 6: Do you remember when they do the exorcism on the boat. Yeah,

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he's like a spirit creature. Anyway, he's got the.

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Speaker 8: Tar five of Swords on his back, which is like defeat.

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Speaker 6: Ah, okay, thank you. Oh here we go. Now I

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can see where to read the super jests. Okay, cool.

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I didn't know I could read them within my obs dashboard.

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That's what I was looking for the whole time the

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other day. So thank you last time to Adam and

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to Tony to Midwest to add her head. I did

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not get to those superchats the last time around, So

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thank you to you guys for those five dollars super chests.

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But we don't send five dollars. You can send anymore.

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You want much appreciated for the existing super chats that

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we have been given. Okay, So what we see after

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this is uh, fake hippie Jesus decides he needs to

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get his shtick going. He's gonna make some money. Uh,

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And we see a series of different symbolic images and

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phases that present the history of Christianity again in the esotericist,

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hermetic gnostic guys inversion. Since it's like Jesus becomes a

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marketing tool, a tool for the Vatican, a tool for Constantine,

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a tool for uh fascism, like all these different regimes

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utilize this. And it's pictured as a frog circus. And

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you remember that, don't they like he blows up frogs.

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Speaker 8: Remember this that was supposed to be the conquest of

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Mexico by Europe bringing christ bring over Christianity to indigenous people.

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Speaker 6: Is the poor, the poor, the noble savages are being

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you know, conquered by the evil Christopher Columbus or whatever.

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Speaker 8: So Georgiowski grew up in Chile and he was really

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against like colonialism.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I mean, but that's just part of the

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whole ethos of being anti Catholic, right, I mean, the

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Spain rocked Alcism, you know, to all those areas. So

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so he's basically just presenting it as a tool of

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the empire, whichever various empire in different eras of history.

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So that's the meaning of all these sequences of blasphemous images,

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basically what I'm trying to say if you're if you

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were wondering what all that means.

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Speaker 8: There's this scene where hewn off the cross and the

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fat Roman soldiers take him to the potato factory and

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they make a mold of him. You remember this, and yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Have that in the notes. Next, here's the plaster casts.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he wakes up and they're all around him and

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he's traumatized.

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Speaker 6: Right. So, so Jesus in his apocalyptic vaudeville show routine

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that he was trying to get going again. I know,

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this is blasphemous. This is the presentation of this gnostic film.

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What Jesus was just kind of a vagabond dude, right,

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hippie hippie Jesus. And then even he doesn't realize.

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Speaker 9: Like you know, well, man, look what they did with

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my religion. Man, they turned into this thing, you know,

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like you know, oppressed people. It's like a corporate thing, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I believe in Jesus is not religion, man, that's what's

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being presented here.

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Speaker 8: He finds like a pope in bed with one of

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the Jesuses or something.

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Speaker 6: Lesting it or yes, very blasphemous stuff. So beware of

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So they're.

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Speaker 8: Like, He's like, they're corrupting my message.

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Speaker 6: And then he beware of what we say on here.

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We don't want to get robbing O. Thank you whoa

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robbing old folks? One hundred dollars. That's a mega super chat,

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Thank you so much. And he says this is for

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the victory in the debate with doctor Shabir Ali. Well

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much appreciated. Robbing old folks. That's a hilarious name. By

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the way, did you rob old folks to give me

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that super chat?

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Speaker 1: If?

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Speaker 6: So, that's really base. That's a joke. By the way,

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before somebody tries to report.

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Speaker 8: That he's the dad, don't say anything.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, own a Sky's dad in say anything is

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stealing all of the old people's money and persecuting Lord Dobbler.

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So yes, if you robbed I own a Sky's dad,

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then in that case is justified. This is a justified

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act of robin hoodery so much appreciated robbing old folks,

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robin hood robbery, robin robin hood, robin in the hood. Anyway,

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Christianity's corrupted. There is, as you said, the illicit sexual

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stuff reference. We even see these kind of mafia figures

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running Christianity. They look like mobsters basically, and we see

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a monkey. So this monkey accompanies the hippie fake Jesus character. Uh,

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there's the Mary Magdalen who's the horror disciple, and it's

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just this kind of ragtag band of weirdos, right, like

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a like a Manson type crew.

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Speaker 8: Well, he goes to the group of prostitutes, remember.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's where he gets Mary Magdalen.

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Speaker 8: Right, no organized religion. He's like, I reject this, and

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then he goes and hangs out with them. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: This is the number uh misconception number one by idiots, right,

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which is that yes, you can super chats at the

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stream labs land. So stream labs is now the new

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super chats. People in the court and the chat are

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asking how do I give a super chat. We got

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demands us and now we have stream webs what we're

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talking about Hose I got lost? What about the Hose?

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Speaker 8: That's who he went to after he couldn't take it anymore.

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Speaker 6: Then he decides to that the world's religions are bogus,

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and so he decides he's going to go on a journey.

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I guess right, because we're supposed to think that this

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blasphemous fake Jesus character is uh, you know, a truth seeker. Oh,

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I know what I was saying that that this is

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the majority of the world's mistaken idea of who Jesus was.

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That Jesus was a rebel, a hippie, you know.

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Speaker 9: Man, he was against the you know, religion of his time.

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Speaker 6: Man, he's just struck out on his own fight the

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system would and Jesus as the proto communists basically, when

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that's not at all who Jesus is. Jesus was the

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fulfillment of all of the Old Testament prophecies. He's the

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one who gave the Old Testament religion. He's the one

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who fulfills all the predictions because he's a divine hypostasis,

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a divine person with a fully human nature. Right, So

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the world thinks of Jesus as the Nestorian rian hippie Jesus. Right,

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we know that he's the second person of the godhead,

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and that makes all the difference in the world. Right,

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So he's not a hippie guy wandering around trying to

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figure out his purpose. Man, you know, eat pray love, man?

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What do I mean, man? What do I mean man? Right? Jamie? Oh,

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this is eat pray love Jesus.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's a scene where he tries to do a

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miracle and the alchemist shows him what would happen if

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he fed the kids on the dock with the bread?

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Remember that team vaguely?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and what was the point of that?

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Speaker 8: He wants to feed them, and then he gives them

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a vision of what would happen if he does the miracle,

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and it's them fighting over the bread and killing each

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other and pushing.

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Speaker 6: Right, So, if you do the miracles for the masses,

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they just want to eat the bread and they fight

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each other over the attachments. And so the magician is

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telling fake Jesus to.

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Speaker 9: Learn the esoteric arts. Man, don't even mess with these

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profane masses, man, They're just going to take your message

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and they're going to pervert it.

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Speaker 6: Man, right, so ah, the real yeah, because.

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Speaker 8: Part of the Buddhism is having yes, no right.

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Speaker 6: So which is true that when Jesus was happened. When

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Jesus was doing his public ministry, he did not have

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a place to lay his head, right, so a man

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has nowhere to lay his head. However, they did a

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money purse. Judas was in control of that, so they

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actually weren't opposed to possessions. This is ridiculous. Jesus had

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a specific mission when he went out to preach for

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his ministry, right, so he's not literally telling everybody in

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every age to not have anything right, that's ridiculous. Jesus

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wasn't a communist, That's what we're trying to say here.

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There's no socialist, communist hippie. Jesus is a complete gnostic fabrication,

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and the only people who would think that are people

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who are completely ignorant of the Bible.

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Speaker 8: What's interesting when they were preparing for this movie, they

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lived communally for a long time before they started filming.

471
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The cast with Gerardo.

472
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Speaker 6: Rowski, they did what speak up.

473
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Speaker 8: With each other before they started filming.

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Speaker 6: You cut out, speak up.

475
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're breaking up the cast lives communally. Oh my god,

476
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can you hear me out?

477
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Speaker 6: Okay, so he's a dirty comy, right, So of course

478
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that's why he's presenting Jesus, says, call me Jesus. But

479
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it's not just commed.

480
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Speaker 8: They did a lot of go ahead, uh huh. They

481
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do a lot of zen stuff, soupy stuff, yoga stuff.

482
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So they were like in a communal uh spiritual boot

483
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:26,079
camp before they even started doing the movie.

484
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Speaker 6: I say, interesting, I did not know that. So, yeah,

485
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I'm glad you get awake.

486
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Speaker 8: For a week straight. What isn't that crazy? They stayed

487
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awake for a week straight and said, no.

488
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Speaker 6: Wonder, I'm sure they were doing psychedelics too, probably right.

489
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah definitely.

490
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Speaker 6: And so it's essentially what you're doing when you're doing

491
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all this kind of stuff is trying to invoke the

492
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spiritual realm. You know, they were trying to make contact

493
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with the gods. And so let's get to this next part.

494
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So when the fake Jesus character climbs up the obelisk,

495
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this is him beginning to go on his path towards

496
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greater enlightenment, greater mystical you know, ascension or whatever.

497
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Speaker 8: Well, he wants to climb up and steal from the alchemist,

498
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is the point of that? Was it?

499
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Speaker 6: Okay?

500
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

501
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,679
Speaker 6: So he so this is actually presenting the fool character

502
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of the tarot. So he because he's just sort of

503
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bumbling into this enlightenment.

504
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Speaker 2: Right.

505
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay.

506
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Speaker 6: So when he gets up to the top of the obelisk,

507
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there's this room and this this mystical magician's alchemists, uh,

508
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ritual room, I don't know what you want to call it.

509
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,199
We see Jacoin and bo As, we see the two

510
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pillars of the the temple. Here it's kabbalistic imagery. We

511
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see the squaring compass, we see cabbalistic h imagery, we

512
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see two goats, we see so the baphomet imagery is

513
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there basically all of the different traditions of what you

514
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would call esoteric chrometic kind of golden dawn type stuff.

515
00:38:15,679 --> 00:38:23,599
Wouldn't you say. There's a sword, there's a pentacle, the staff,

516
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,039
the chalice, the wand we see a lot of ritual

517
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,920
magic imagery going around us, flashing. It's kind of too

518
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,199
it's almost too much to keep up with. Perhaps on purpose,

519
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:36,440
I think maybe jo Arrowski's trying to show you that

520
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:39,920
if you go down the path of trying to decode

521
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,119
the religious texts and symbols, you're just going to be

522
00:38:42,199 --> 00:38:46,679
bombarded with like endless you know, codes and symbols, and

523
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,880
it never really matches up to anything except he's going

524
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to give a kind of a presentation of where to

525
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take things. So we've got we have imagery of Christianity, Hinduism, Tibetan, Buddhism, Kabbala,

526
00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:04,199
free May, Snary, alchemy all present, as well as witchcraft

527
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:11,960
and ceremonial magic. Yep, is there anything you want to

528
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,320
add on that?

529
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Speaker 8: Well, the I thought it was interesting they had a

530
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bird in every scene.

531
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Speaker 6: That's true. I wonder I didn't even know. I didn't

532
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:24,599
catch that. What do you make of that?

533
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 8: There's like a different there's maybe an Ibis kind of

534
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,000
bird walking around that would be thought the god of

535
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:33,199
magic from Egypt.

536
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 6: There's a peacock that of course, the peacock in the

537
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:41,840
Mendean religion represents Lucifer. Oh right, because of the.

538
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Speaker 8: Mmhmm peacock and Orthodoxy is paradise.

539
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 6: Well, I don't think John, I know he's interested in

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the Orthodox symbology.

541
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Speaker 8: I know I'm just saying, but but he takes him

542
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,159
through the alchemical ritual where he like, he hasn't poop

543
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:09,239
in the jar, and you're the excrement and we're gonna

544
00:40:09,559 --> 00:40:10,079
refine you.

545
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:13,079
Speaker 6: So yeah, we even have some of like the Chroleian

546
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elements here of the bodily fluids and the this kind

547
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,199
of stuff being used in the magical rights. And the

548
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,280
purpose of this sequence is that the alchemist is showing

549
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,199
him here's what I'm gonna do in the film, which

550
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,119
has taken you from these different stages of the alchemical

551
00:40:32,199 --> 00:40:36,679
process to the philosopher's stump, which is gold. So the

552
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,480
whole point of the sequence is to produce gold. But

553
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:43,920
the gold of the alchemist is not literal wealth and gold.

554
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:51,039
It's of course psychological transformation, spiritual ascension, apotheosis basically, right.

555
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,000
So that sequence is kind of the intro for what

556
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,880
the rest of the film is going to be in

557
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,000
my view. So to go through the alchemical process, we're

558
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going to have to go through the planetary stages.

559
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Speaker 8: Mm hmm.

560
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Speaker 6: So it's a ritual initiation that preps for the stages

561
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of hermetic transformation.

562
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Speaker 8: Yes, so the first one then when go when the

563
00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:34,159
seven Powers come the gods right the plane. Yeah, he says,

564
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:36,199
who are these and he said they're thieves like you.

565
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, so part of what is going on here, as

566
00:41:40,519 --> 00:41:41,880
we'll see, and we don't want to give away the

567
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,519
end of the movie because the full analysis will be

568
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,480
of course for subscribers to Jay's analysis, you can get

569
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:53,000
the subscription link in the show in the show description,

570
00:41:56,119 --> 00:42:00,800
But the first one is Venus, and they are presented

571
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:08,639
like elites, basically monopolistic elites in different areas of life

572
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:14,280
like warfare or clothing and vanity. And once they became

573
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elites and got to the top of their field, they

574
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,920
were like, well, I've had all the pleasures and all

575
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,199
the you know, uh nookie that I can get, now what?

576
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,880
And so then the next thing they want is to

577
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attain godhood. They want to be apotheosized into becoming deities,

578
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right and.

579
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Speaker 8: So yeah, the seven planets and the seven Deadly Sins also, yes, exactly.

580
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Speaker 6: So these are the planetary controlling gods or demons basically,

581
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,519
but I think we're supposed to view them as at

582
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:53,679
one point humans who achieved the patheosis.

583
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,519
Speaker 8: So who is having business or politics or however to

584
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:04,199
where they right, because most of them were business people.

585
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,519
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying, right, So Venus from the start there,

586
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:12,599
Venus is in charge of clothing, comfort, beauty Vanity and

587
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:20,119
Venus's father is the demi Urge, the blind Oh yeah, well,

588
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,639
the blind creator God basically.

589
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:32,119
Speaker 8: Yeah, who takes his wife's mummy around. Remember that part.

590
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Speaker 6: Yeah, The deaf, dumb, blind, demi urged Deity is the

591
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:43,639
quote creator God and his consort is so Sophia, who

592
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:50,519
tells him through basically sort of sexual mythology, whether something

593
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:54,360
can be created or not. So there's this out of

594
00:43:54,559 --> 00:43:58,079
a cord weirdness going on with the deaf, dumb, blind

595
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:02,320
creator Deity, the demi Urge giving birth first to Venus.

596
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,639
I wrote something about drugs to cause mania. Was that

597
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,639
something that Venus was in charge of? I don't remember

598
00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:19,719
this complex, So that's one. There's some connect Okay, that's

599
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,920
a different one, I see. But yeah, you're right, but

600
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Venus does make fake butts and plastic surgery, yeah uh,

601
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:37,360
and makeup. So if you wanted your if you ever

602
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,559
wondered where all the fake butts and the Kardashian fake butts,

603
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,519
that's all from predicted here in the sequence of Venus, right,

604
00:44:47,519 --> 00:44:51,840
mm hmm, it's okay. So Mars is the next one,

605
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,039
and Mars is of course god of war. But this

606
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:58,199
is interesting because Mars is presented as a black lesbian

607
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who has male secretaries and workers that are all cooked.

608
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And Mars of course sells weapons, biological warfare and pop culture.

609
00:45:11,519 --> 00:45:14,159
Did you notice that pop culture is pictured as a weapon.

610
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:22,079
Speaker 8: Yeah? Is this the one where they make the toys

611
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:29,440
based on yes, hello, go to war with? So yeah,

612
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:31,159
she said, we have our giant machine and we just

613
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:33,400
programmed that, and the people tell us who they want

614
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,559
to go to war with in twenty years, and we

615
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:37,159
make toys based on that and make them the enemy.

616
00:45:38,039 --> 00:45:41,559
Speaker 6: Right, And so she I think she's the one that

617
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,360
does the No, that's not who does.

618
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Is that?

619
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Speaker 6: Who does the electro shock? No, it's not, that's Saturn.

620
00:45:52,039 --> 00:46:10,639
Mars just sells pop culture war stuff. Remember hello, hello, Jamie?

621
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:10,960
Are you there?

622
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?

623
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:17,559
Speaker 6: Hello?

624
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:24,159
Speaker 1: All right?

625
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 6: Well, if if her Internet is not going to be

626
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:34,760
good enough, I'll have to go it alone. All right,

627
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,119
Well I lost her, so she'll be back for the

628
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:49,119
sequel for US subscribers, So uh, fair, farewell Jamie. We

629
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:55,880
enjoyed your comments. It was goodwile it lasted, and you

630
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:02,119
were very choppy. So but maybe we can get you

631
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:06,280
back for part two for sure. All right, So let's

632
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,039
get back to where we're at Mars. There's a black

633
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:19,639
bed with ritual stuff, weird sexual things going on, black

634
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,400
lesbian with cucked male secretaries and sells, pop culture, and

635
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,280
bio warfare. So this is one area where we begin

636
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,920
to see the film actually being kind of accurate in

637
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,679
its analysis of what actually goes on. Right, So, at

638
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,519
this point, John Rowski is pointing out that that different

639
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:43,719
areas of life in this world are all under the

640
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,039
control you could say, of different spirits in his view,

641
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,880
and these different gods or spirits controlled different areas of life.

642
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:58,199
Mars obviously god of war, and therefore anything that comes

643
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:05,599
under the influence of Mars in terms of warfare, propaganda, weapons,

644
00:48:06,039 --> 00:48:11,920
biowarfare is all produced and controlled and run by Mars.

645
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:18,559
But I remember, in the John Rowski conception, Mars is

646
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:29,440
a I'm trying to move the box here just one

647
00:48:29,559 --> 00:48:33,840
second here, I got it locked, and I wonder what

648
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:39,400
move there? We go, Okay, these are humans who achieved

649
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,239
the potheosis. Okay, so, and that's going to be important

650
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,639
for the end of the movie because remember, this movie

651
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,960
does not go where you think. It didn't go where

652
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,719
I expected. I'll put it that way. I mean, on

653
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,800
the one hand, I wasn't surprised how it ended. I

654
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,239
could see that now looking back as it makes sense.

655
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,519
But I didn't think he would he would take the

656
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:06,079
movie in that direction. But I guess once you kind

657
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:08,199
of look into his worldview, it kind of makes sense

658
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,840
why it would. So the next one is Jupiter. Jupiter

659
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,760
is presented, of course, as one of the you know,

660
00:49:16,519 --> 00:49:18,719
big gods you could speak, and so he's presented with

661
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,800
a giant house. Right, Jupiter is huge in terms of planets.

662
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,440
Jupiter's house is huge, full of artworks. It's an art factory.

663
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:31,480
This is interesting because in this sequence we are starting

664
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:35,039
to realize that different areas of life, beyond not just warfare,

665
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:39,679
all areas of life kind of have monopolies that control them.

666
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:43,159
And I don't know why he puts art under Jupiter,

667
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,039
but they have everyone basically painting butts and sitting on canvases,

668
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:55,800
and it's an assembly line of butt paintings. That's actually true.

669
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:57,840
I mean, I did a video you know what a

670
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,960
couple of months ago about the ridiculous of the art

671
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:03,840
world and how that's a bunch of scammering and nonsense

672
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,679
and it's a tool for money laundering obviously, And so

673
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,920
actually Jatarowski is illustrating that with the sequence of the

674
00:50:13,039 --> 00:50:19,000
assembly line. Avant garde art world, abstract meaningless art is

675
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:23,559
all present here, it's all coming out of an assembly line.

676
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:29,079
And then also presented under Jupiter is the idea of

677
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:38,239
technology and pleasure, robot control and the electrogasm.

678
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: This is.

679
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 6: Man giving birth to machines and then the machines giving

680
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:50,920
birth to babies, and there's a little crying robot baby.

681
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,760
It's really weird, but I think that's hinting at the

682
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:03,000
rise of transhumanism, and it's this series of sequences. Actually

683
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:05,960
that's the most revelatory in the whole film, right, So

684
00:51:06,119 --> 00:51:09,239
this is where we're gonna get that, And we also

685
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,320
get the presentation of the smart city and the coffin apartments,

686
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:18,920
literally a smart city with coffin apartments and selling people

687
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:25,320
on how to get them to come to these coffin apartments.

688
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,719
Whereas that one maybe ahead of myself here, let me

689
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,800
find that, Okay, that's going to be under Pluto. So

690
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,559
I'm not at Pluto yet, so I got a little

691
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:36,840
ahead of myself that we're still in Jupiter. But so

692
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,800
Jupiter is presenting the control of love and sexuality, eventually

693
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:48,239
being under the dominance of machines. I think that comes

694
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,760
up in Pluto as well, but I might have been

695
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:59,199
watching a edited version. I'm not sure, since your version perhaps, Okay,

696
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,199
So next up is Saturn. Saturn of course is Chronos.

697
00:52:03,599 --> 00:52:07,280
Saturn's customers are kids. That's interesting because what we see

698
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:12,280
in this sequence is a version of Christianity, a version

699
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:21,440
of the papacy with Saturnalian bishops, miters and symbols. We

700
00:52:21,519 --> 00:52:25,320
see a circus, a Santa Claus circus. Who could have

701
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,000
predicted Jotarowski himself could not have predicted that within a

702
00:52:29,039 --> 00:52:32,400
few decades the Vatican itself, in many Roman galley churches

703
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,719
would actually have circus and clown masses. So this was

704
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,599
actually way more predictive than even he could have imagined

705
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:44,440
in this sense. In this sequence, now, why is it

706
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:47,199
that the customers are children? Well, the customers are children,

707
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:53,639
we learned because Cronos Death manufactures toys that sell them

708
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,280
on warfare and so the toys actually train the children

709
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,199
and prep the children to become good little soldiers and

710
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,639
to go die in the foreign battles for the elite. Remember,

711
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:14,599
we're not at planetary gods yet, we're at humans who

712
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:20,480
achieved monopoly domination in different areas of life. So basically,

713
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:22,679
the ancient world's Rockefellers is what we're talking about here.

714
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,880
By the way, there is my Instagram. People were talking

715
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,559
about some of the funny videos this week. If you

716
00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:31,719
want to watch those funny videos, follow me on my Instagram.

717
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: There.

718
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna sing those songs in this sequence in

719
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:41,880
this episode. Maybe I will if you're all good to me,

720
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:44,239
if you treat me, if you treat me right and

721
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:53,119
we don't break up, maybe I will. But Chronos preps

722
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,079
and mind controls the children. This one is the most

723
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,840
kind of mind blowing, this one in Pluto, because Chronos

724
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,519
is also interested in creating a giant AI machine that

725
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:08,280
will tell people how to run politics. The AI spits

726
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:14,239
out how you control the masses in politics. I thought

727
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,280
that was pretty wild, right, I mean, we've seen this

728
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,199
in old shows like The Prisoner.

729
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: Right.

730
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,519
Speaker 6: If you read my analysis of The Prisoner, necessary Hollywood,

731
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,239
and then you saw this the chapter on the Global

732
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:29,800
the Brain computer that number six fights against. And we

733
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:34,280
also saw this in other old movies like Watch of

734
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:40,960
My O Kayne spy movie by Okayne, Harry, Harry what's

735
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,559
his name? The Michael Kine The Brain you know, I'm something,

736
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,920
the old Michael Kaine spy movie with Harry what's his

737
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,920
He's Harry what's his name? Anyway, that there's one of

738
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,599
those installments is the big AI computer that will run everything.

739
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,760
So a lot of sixties and seventies movies had that theme,

740
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,079
which is way ahead of its time. But Saturn, and

741
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:05,719
by the way, Saturn's name is cell Sel, so I

742
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,840
think he's a play on words selling things, selling war.

743
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,559
Saturn is involved in selling wars, revolutions and toys to

744
00:55:14,639 --> 00:55:18,239
train children to go to warfare, and the CIA and

745
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,480
the mind control operations fall under this. Children are programmed

746
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:24,840
to from a very early age to hate the enemy,

747
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,840
the morphous unknown enemy, and then through MK Ultra Electra Shock,

748
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,039
they are trained to be warriors. That was pretty wild,

749
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:44,480
so Jotarowski does not get everything wrong. Next is berg Uranus,

750
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,559
who's in charge of banking, and his name is Berg

751
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,599
Berg's wife is an old fat stripper and they have

752
00:55:53,679 --> 00:56:02,000
a snake child. Snake Farm pretty much is snake farm,

753
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:06,360
Nasty snake Farm. That's the dumbest country song of all time.

754
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,519
By the way, if you know what I'm talking about,

755
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:11,920
that stupid snake farm song, That's what I thought of

756
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,840
in this goofy sequence with the fat stripper bouncing on

757
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:24,440
the fake horse on the rocking horse ride, and then

758
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:29,000
they are milking. They're feeding milk to the snake baby.

759
00:56:29,679 --> 00:56:34,840
Like what anyway, Uranus goes in consults as financial advisor

760
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:43,760
to empires quantification and depopulation. This is interesting because so

761
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:51,599
the banking elite tell the governments in this sequence how

762
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:56,320
many people to depop That was interesting, and they like

763
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,239
makes a phone call like you know what's the boggling

764
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,760
off video right where it's like bump beat dump beat, right,

765
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,559
It's that kind of a thing. That's what they remember me.

766
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:16,559
Next is Axon, who is Neptune the chief of police

767
00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:25,039
and collecting one thousand testicles. This sequence is a little confusing,

768
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:30,039
I'm not sure, but basically the setting up the private

769
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:37,039
police enforcement, private security testical collection. I don't even know

770
00:57:37,159 --> 00:57:38,880
what that meaning of that is. I don't know why

771
00:57:41,039 --> 00:57:45,679
is jod Rowski making it like a feminist statement with

772
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,719
the testical collection? That one blew me away. By the way,

773
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,920
why would you want a testicle? Why would you want

774
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,480
a one thousand testical collection? Anyway? You know what I mean?

775
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:58,519
I mean, maybe it's just a show that the elite

776
00:57:58,679 --> 00:58:04,440
were cycle paths in their various uh you know, markets

777
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,039
that they came to control. So if you're in the

778
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:10,199
testicle market, if you have a thousand of those, you

779
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,280
probably have a controlling share in the the ball market,

780
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:20,480
in the family jewel market. But so he's different from warfare.

781
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,440
He's not Mars, because I remember Mars was a woman.

782
00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:33,039
But Axelon is chief of police removing testicles. So everyone

783
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:38,280
is a eunuch in his in his army. It reminded

784
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,000
me of the who are the people in Game of

785
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:51,880
Thrones under Kalisi? You know, the the debald soldiers, the

786
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,039
guy who can't love anybody but he loves the one chick.

787
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:56,880
What are they called?

788
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:57,119
Speaker 2: You know?

789
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I know the Bors did that with

790
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:05,079
their the popes and borges. It they would do this

791
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:10,159
with their choir boys. Really gross stuff right all the

792
00:59:10,199 --> 00:59:12,400
way up. They posted this all the way up until, like,

793
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:22,119
you know, a few hundred years ago anyway, So that's

794
00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:26,000
who he represents. And then we see him send a

795
00:59:26,039 --> 00:59:31,719
bunch of the young initiated guys into battle, and then

796
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,039
after that they read the religious texts. So the warrior class,

797
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:38,679
it's not, but it's not the warrior class. It's kind

798
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:42,280
of the warrior class. But their police they're not under mars.

799
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,119
I don't know, I don't know who knows where they

800
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:48,360
came up with this stuff. The unsolid that's them. That's

801
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:57,679
what this reminded me. Oft Pluto Plutot seems to be

802
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,920
a creeper, creeper deep, if you know what I mean,

803
01:00:02,119 --> 01:00:07,719
because he has a bevy of young people all wearing

804
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:12,679
Disney outfits, Mickey Mouse outfits, running around chasing him, acting

805
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:19,079
like a creeper. I think that's what I was talking about.

806
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:26,519
And he's in charge of architecture. This is where we

807
01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:29,039
get this weird sequence where he goes to the elite

808
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:32,800
and he sells them on the idea that man doesn't

809
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,199
need a home, man just needs shelter. So all we

810
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,159
have to do is convince people to come into the

811
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:45,199
big megalopolis metropolitan cosmopolitan cities, and then we sell them

812
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:50,599
on tiny living, austerity and having a coffin apartment, and

813
01:00:50,719 --> 01:00:53,400
it's literally a bunch of little coffins stacked up. So

814
01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:55,519
you come and you get in your coffin and you

815
01:00:55,719 --> 01:00:58,639
just sleep there, and then you during the day, you

816
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,880
go out and just live for your passions. Right, you

817
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:06,400
just go I don't know, I'm not gonna say dirty

818
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,039
things that people get mad, you know what I mean?

819
01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:10,559
You go out and have things in your butt all day,

820
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:12,239
and then you go back into your coffin, and that's

821
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:17,639
your whole existence, is just butts and things bouncing around everywhere.

822
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:23,519
That's your whole world. This is another one of the

823
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:30,360
really predictive elements. And the city is called City of Freedom.

824
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:38,840
It's the cosmopolitan degeneracy world, and it's free because you

825
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:44,000
won't need a house anymore. Then we come to the

826
01:01:45,159 --> 01:01:48,039
point where things go a little more interesting in terms

827
01:01:48,119 --> 01:01:52,159
of where the film diverges. Now we start going in

828
01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:55,280
a different direction and we're going to get into the

829
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:01,480
Nine Immortal Men, the nine immortals atop the Holy Mountain.

830
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,559
So now it's going to turn into something very different,

831
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:11,519
and there is a sequence of planning to storm the

832
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:14,880
gates of Heaven basically, right. So the Holy Mountain, we realize,

833
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:19,760
is this mythical pinnacle that everyone needs to that we're

834
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,119
not everybody but the initiates. Right. So the Majors guy

835
01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:28,400
who's Joarowski, he goes and he collects the planetary gods

836
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,880
and he says, all right, come here, all you guys,

837
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:33,559
and Jesus, fake fake hippie Jesus, let me tell you

838
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:36,480
what's really going on. You're all at the top of

839
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:41,320
your fields. You're all seeking enlightenment. You all want more immortality.

840
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,960
That's all that's left to live forever is the goal.

841
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,039
And I'm going to tell you how to do it.

842
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,320
And the way to do it is to go dethrone

843
01:02:50,519 --> 01:02:54,199
the nine immortal secret world controllers who live atop the

844
01:02:54,239 --> 01:02:57,039
Holy Mountain. And the only reason they're up there is

845
01:02:57,039 --> 01:02:59,840
because they figured out all the mystic secrets. And all

846
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:04,519
you have to do is track them down and unseat them,

847
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:10,599
and we will be the nine. Of course, nine does

848
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:19,159
have a direct relation to initiation. That's an initiatory related

849
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:26,880
number when people do channeling. In terms of this, like

850
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:29,480
Gene Roddenberry was in the circles of all the weirdos

851
01:03:29,559 --> 01:03:33,119
doing channeling, talking to the Nine the Council of the

852
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,239
Nine Entities, and all this nonsense, and what are the entities?

853
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,559
I'll say, Oh, we got to have a world government,

854
01:03:39,639 --> 01:03:42,519
and we got to have one world religion, and everybody

855
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:45,440
needs to die. It's always the same message, but people

856
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,239
can't figure out that it's demons telling people this. I

857
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,119
just covered. By the way, what did we just cover

858
01:03:51,239 --> 01:03:53,519
in last night's There are two nights ago is talk

859
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,039
from the Global Elite book series. We did the Millennium

860
01:03:57,039 --> 01:03:59,800
book and we did the John C. Lilly book Tim Leary,

861
01:04:00,199 --> 01:04:02,440
both of those and what do we see Tim Lary say?

862
01:04:03,199 --> 01:04:08,599
Tim Lary said that John C. Lily is like Alistair Crowley,

863
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:15,119
He's the what do you call him like? He says.

864
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:19,719
Crowley and Lily are the Columbuses and the Magellans of

865
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,719
the psyche man, you know, and you laugh at that,

866
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:27,320
but this is no joke. I mean. Leary is saying

867
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,840
that Crowley and the Storming of Heaven idea of the

868
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,920
new aon, that's what we're going to bring in. He says,

869
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:38,760
That's what this is all about. That's what John C.

870
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:46,880
Lily is working for. Learry says openly, so that is

871
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:51,800
going to relate directly to the message, the Luciferian message

872
01:04:52,199 --> 01:04:56,800
of Holy Mountain. All right, so we've gone for over

873
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,880
an hour. The second hour will be the second half

874
01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:02,559
the film, which is the Ascent of the Holy Mountain

875
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:12,639
and the Curious Ending, and welcome to Kaitlin Irvin, Kaitlyn Irvan.

876
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,679
Shout out to Kaitlyn Irvan. I much appreciated for that

877
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:24,039
super chat and don't see any more super chats. But

878
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,039
oh yeah, I forgot the nosgool right, there's the nine

879
01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:30,599
as well, in that Tim Burton's movie nine. Actually we

880
01:05:30,679 --> 01:05:34,639
did an episode. I think we covered nine. We did

881
01:05:34,679 --> 01:05:37,079
a Hollywood dcote we did that's right, that was one

882
01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:38,840
of the ones. I think that got cut. We did

883
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,239
a Hollywood Decoded and we covered or nine was going

884
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,039
to be in season two. I can't remember. Yes, I

885
01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:48,880
have seen nine, I've decoded it, so I'm aware of that.

886
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,559
I want Caitlyn's super chat doesn't show up here, So

887
01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:00,840
refreshed this. What's up, Robin, Oh that's that's his I

888
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,239
just refreshed it. I didn't take another one hundred dollars, dude,

889
01:06:03,239 --> 01:06:08,840
I promise, But Caitlin's isn't showing up. That's okay. I'm

890
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,599
still navigating stream labs, but we've got it working now

891
01:06:12,639 --> 01:06:14,599
and we can see what people say now. So at

892
01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:17,440
least we've gotten that far. We progressed from last time.

893
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,360
All right, So if you want to hear the rest

894
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:26,119
of the explanation of this weird, gross movie, butt nasty movie,

895
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:31,679
you can subscribe to Jay's Analysis at the subscription in

896
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,079
the show the subscription in the show description, and that

897
01:06:36,239 --> 01:06:39,920
will give you access. And then I will compare also

898
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:43,920
other holy mountains? Why a mountain? What in religions is

899
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,280
it about mountains? Why does this matter? It was Eden

900
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:53,440
actually on the mountain? Interesting thesis here Mount Sinai, Jesus

901
01:06:53,519 --> 01:07:00,320
on Mount Sinai, Mount of Olives, Mount Athos mountain are

902
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:06,480
important and this holy mountain is not a holy mountain.

903
01:07:07,719 --> 01:07:10,039
When will I sing some stunt told pilots very soon,

904
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:16,239
very soon on the next goofy stream. I guess if

905
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,000
you want to hear that, I'll do that for you, guys.

906
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,960
All right, thank you, And if you want to hear

907
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,159
part two, feel free to subscribe to day As Analysis

908
01:07:25,079 --> 01:07:29,239
and we'll get into the meaning, the full meaning and explanation.

909
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:31,559
We might hit on some of the other stuff too,

910
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,960
like the Joowski Dune and that kind of thing. Or

911
01:07:34,039 --> 01:07:36,880
I might do a whole other episode on jo Erowski's Dune.

912
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:41,320
I don't know, but thank you guys for tonight's fun

913
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,519
times and much love, peace and God bless