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Speaker 2: If you've listened to me over the years, rather it
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Speaker 2: kr d Gosh. I felt it's weird saying that, but
Speaker 2: I've been on midday's mornings afternoons here on the station
Speaker 2: for going on nine years now, and I remember about
Speaker 2: midway through that whole, this whole journey, I became a
Speaker 2: cord cutter. It was a experimental thing. We moved out
Speaker 2: of our first house. We'd had direct TV. We paid
Speaker 2: a lot for it, but you know, we had what
Speaker 2: we wanted. And I just thought, anybody that's relying on
Speaker 2: the internet to watch TV is going to be, you know,
Speaker 2: having issues and they're just you know, they're they're they're
Speaker 2: just trying to be hip. And sure enough, my wife,
Speaker 2: you know, mentioned how much we were paying, and I thought, okay,
Speaker 2: well we're going to move and what I'm going to
Speaker 2: do is I'll this will give me a chance to
Speaker 2: give one of these a shot to see if it's
Speaker 2: possible maybe save some money, and if not. I'll just
Speaker 2: create a new account with DirecTV and start over and
Speaker 2: you know, maybe even get like some you know, new
Speaker 2: member pricing.
Speaker 3: Because I left previously. So we tried YouTube.
Speaker 2: TV and it was like at the time, gosh, I
Speaker 2: want to say, it was like, I mean, could it
Speaker 2: have been like thirty dollars a month? Like I kind
Speaker 2: of feel like that's what it was, but that just
Speaker 2: sounds crazy cheap. But we made the switch to YouTube TV.
Speaker 2: This was in like two thousand and eighteen maybe, and
Speaker 2: we've been with YouTube TV ever since. I've never once
Speaker 2: really considered making any kind of change. I've promoted it
Speaker 2: to other people. In fact, I'm sure they would still
Speaker 2: be making a lot of money without me. But I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people personally and just people that
Speaker 2: I've talked talked about this with the on the show,
Speaker 2: like that they've tried YouTube TV and they've never gone back.
Speaker 2: So I've been a defender, but they they've made some
Speaker 2: crazy increases when it comes to do you have you
Speaker 2: two TV?
Speaker 4: No, I did a couple of years ago. I'm on
Speaker 4: I'm on a Hulu TV guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, hululv TV. Yeah, So right now, I mean, like
Speaker 2: I guess this is what. Yeah, thirty four ninety nine
Speaker 2: was the entry pricing about seven years ago, and that's
Speaker 2: that's what I paid. And then it quickly went up
Speaker 2: to thirty nine to ninety nine, and then by twenty nineteen,
Speaker 2: two years in, it went up to fifty bucks, and
Speaker 2: I kind of I guess that's when I stopped even
Speaker 2: paying attention like what it costs. You know, I'm not
Speaker 2: I've talked about this before too. It's not something I'm
Speaker 2: proud of, but like, I have no clue about my finances.
Speaker 2: My wife takes care of all of that. I have
Speaker 2: this plastic card that I swipe it when I need to,
Speaker 2: you know, survive, get gas and feed myself and then
Speaker 2: everything else she just handles. So it's probably not what
Speaker 2: I should do. But you know, I don't really know
Speaker 2: what we pay for anything. Again, that's embarrassing to say,
Speaker 2: but I'm just being transparent with you. So, but now
Speaker 2: it's gone from forty nine ninety nine and twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: and here we are in twenty twenty four it's going
Speaker 2: up to eighty two ninety So I still think that
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a crazy amount of money to pay
Speaker 2: per month to get all these television stations, but to
Speaker 2: see how much it has jumped in that time, I
Speaker 2: guess that is a little surprising, and you know, I
Speaker 2: I'll probably keep it, but it did for the first
Speaker 2: time make me realize, what do I need YouTube TV for?
Speaker 2: Like what? Because I don't, like, what do I need
Speaker 2: live TV for? Like, you know, can't you? I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously you can watch most games are on ESPN, but
Speaker 2: if like something's on CBS or Fox, like you can
Speaker 2: still access that without paying. Actually, I don't know how
Speaker 2: would you do that.
Speaker 4: I know that YouTube TV doesn't have access to the
Speaker 4: local sports anymore, right, No, No.
Speaker 2: YouTube TV has live sports. Okay has live local channels. Okay,
Speaker 2: they have all that. But I'm just saying, like the
Speaker 2: only thing I would don't think I never I ever
Speaker 2: need anything live for is sports. And if a game
Speaker 2: is on ESPN and any ESPN channel, if I've got
Speaker 2: ESPN Plus, I can watch all of them. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: won't need you know, I don't need to sign in
Speaker 2: with a TV provider. So I'm trying to think of
Speaker 2: what what I watch on sports when I sign went
Speaker 2: in with the TV provider, Like if a game is
Speaker 2: on Fox, meaning like Fox forty one. Can I just
Speaker 2: down down with the wd r B app and watch
Speaker 2: it because you don't have to pay for the local
Speaker 2: channels just to you know, at least I don't think
Speaker 2: you do, so I probably won't just eliminate it. But
Speaker 2: I only watch sports when it comes to anything live,
Speaker 2: and the majority of that is on an ESPN owned
Speaker 2: channel and if I and I already have access to
Speaker 2: that regardless because we have d Disney Plus and ESPN Plus.
Speaker 4: So who's your internet provider, Spectrum? It's Spectrum, So I
Speaker 4: know that you can go on the Spectrum app. They
Speaker 4: got a Spectrum watch and you can just watch all
Speaker 4: the local channels.
Speaker 5: Oh even if you just have the internet, yes, I'm
Speaker 5: pretty sure, as long as you have to log in, yeah,
Speaker 5: and you're at and pay like your local stuff. But
Speaker 5: nothing like none of the packages that it right, like
Speaker 5: viacom stations and all that exactly that makes sense, So
Speaker 5: you know, when it comes to just you know, everything,
Speaker 5: I like, I've got a bo like there's some that
Speaker 5: I probably don't need, but I do have access to
Speaker 5: Paramount Plus, Peacock, HBO, Showtime, Paramount Plus. And it's usually
Speaker 5: because there's been at least one or two shows on
Speaker 5: one of those streaming providers that I that I really
Speaker 5: get into. And then there's also I mean I could
Speaker 5: find something to watch on any of those, not that
Speaker 5: I not that I really need it, sure, but like
Speaker 5: if I got rid of.
Speaker 2: The you know, now it's probably it's easily going to
Speaker 2: be the most expensive thing that I have, which is
Speaker 2: my YouTube TV. That's going to be eighty bas basically
Speaker 2: eighty five bucks a month, like you know, like I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know if I need that, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. It would probably take my wife telling me, like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's just get rid of it, and then I'll because
Speaker 2: I just would have to make that decision exactly because
Speaker 2: it does just it does scare me if I'm trying
Speaker 2: to find because that's what kept me from like not wanting.
Speaker 3: To cut the cord and stick with direct TV.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because just.
Speaker 2: The thought of like not knowing where to find it
Speaker 2: or if I have access to it, like just get
Speaker 2: you know, especially if it's a if it's a sporting
Speaker 2: event I wanted to watch. But clearly now like there's
Speaker 2: there's ways around it. Have you used all your free
Speaker 2: subscriptions everywhere else? I know sling TV is a really
Speaker 2: good one if he wanted to try that one out
Speaker 2: for him on Yeah, so we we went straight from
Speaker 2: direct TV to YouTube TV. So I've never tried any
Speaker 2: of the other ones and it and it may be,
Speaker 2: you know, it may be worth doing it, but I
Speaker 2: feel like in the end like it. You know, I
Speaker 2: probably don't need one of those probably scheme of things.
Speaker 2: And if it's gonna save me, you know, eighty five
Speaker 2: bucks a month, and then then heck, yeah, I will
Speaker 2: say a former radio loudmouth like like we are now
Speaker 2: mister Lockelan McClain, who now is uh don't try line
Speaker 2: is exactly shout out Lochlan McClain and an iHeart legend.
Speaker 2: And of course now he's doing his thing on television.
Speaker 2: Of course you'd expect that with a with a handsome
Speaker 2: face like his. But he is now at Spectrum News
Speaker 2: here locally, and of course you know he's being a
Speaker 2: honk for his employer because you know he works for Spectrum.
Speaker 2: But he did bring up something that that is valid
Speaker 2: if you have you know, if you have the standard
Speaker 2: cable subscription with with Spectrum, it now includes Disney plus
Speaker 2: ESPN plus paramount Plus, Discovery Plus, a MC plus, Peacock
Speaker 2: BT Plus, so you know, like what's happening. And I
Speaker 2: read about this earlier what YouTube TV and Hulu Live,
Speaker 2: like what these streaming services are now paying per you know,
Speaker 2: paying to to to be able to have those channels
Speaker 2: as part of their what they sell. Their prices are
Speaker 2: now going up to where it's really it's gonna be
Speaker 2: the same, like you probably can can can much more.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're there yet, And I guess
Speaker 2: it all depends on like what you really need to have,
Speaker 2: Like are you somebody that doesn't care about sports, so
Speaker 2: you don't want ESPN Plus? Do you not need Disney
Speaker 2: Plus because you don't have kids? Like you can kind
Speaker 2: of pick and choose. But I think the whole joke
Speaker 2: about like, well, in the end, we ended up getting
Speaker 2: rid of cable and getting all these individual subscriptions, and
Speaker 2: now it's harder to keep up with it. It's actually
Speaker 2: just as expensive or more expensive. Like I don't think
Speaker 2: we're that far from there, but having at two TV
Speaker 2: on my phone and being able to pop it up
Speaker 2: like that's that's so convenient. But I'm sure I can
Speaker 2: do that with Spectrum to be honest with you, well.
Speaker 4: In the convenience of it, because I get what these Hulu, Peacock,
Speaker 4: YouTube TV, I don't know what fubo. You heard of
Speaker 4: Fubo Fubo, Yeah, I've heard it. But YouTube TV doesn't
Speaker 4: have any like specific like programming right where you can
Speaker 4: just go to like, hey, go watch this a YouTube
Speaker 4: because you obviously you get it for all the other
Speaker 4: live streaming but I know.
Speaker 2: Like it to me, it's the it's the it's this
Speaker 2: live streaming TV service that looks as the most like
Speaker 2: what you used to have when you would go to
Speaker 2: direct TV.
Speaker 4: So there's no like YouTube TV like exclusives like Netflix
Speaker 4: has like Stranger Things or something like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4: They don't have any of their own original programming. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: that's all I meant to say, original programming. And it's
Speaker 4: turned into getting those apps strictly for original programming, binge
Speaker 4: watching it, paying less for it, cutting the chords. Now
Speaker 4: it's all come back to most of these places will
Speaker 4: release episode where you can't binge watch it. I know.
Speaker 4: We had that discussion about the Yellowstone not too long ago,
Speaker 4: and then it's just like they release it in weeks
Speaker 4: and then you got to wait that week for it,
Speaker 4: and it just makes it completely inconvenient. The reason that
Speaker 4: we signed up for them and cut the cable cords
Speaker 4: in the first place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we didn't have to rely on a weekly
Speaker 2: live schedule. We could we could just watch it.
Speaker 4: We're back in a circle.
Speaker 2: Yep. And by the way, the there are certain shows
Speaker 2: that I know that if I had to wait and
Speaker 2: I couldn't just roll through at my own pace, I
Speaker 2: would have never ended up watching all the way through.
Speaker 2: And some of these are like my favorite shows. Ever,
Speaker 2: so I'm glad that some of these shows I was
Speaker 2: able to binge through. You know, I either watched them
Speaker 2: later or uh, you know, they didn't do that at
Speaker 2: the time. I can't think of what the first it
Speaker 2: was a Netflix did it first with one of their
Speaker 2: big popular shows where they split up the two seasons,
Speaker 2: and then it just became a thing everywhere, and you know,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't like it.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna be at that crossroads with Peacock coming up,
Speaker 4: because obviously I'm a big wrestling fan in WWE is
Speaker 4: going to Netflix. Well, they just announced, or at least
Speaker 4: it's it's it's the rumor is they're not gonna have
Speaker 4: the ww network because they usually they have that section
Speaker 4: on the Peacock when you just go on you could
Speaker 4: watch any old school pay per view. Well they're not.
Speaker 4: Netflix isn't going to get that library, They're not the archive. No,
Speaker 4: they're not getting any They might have like a couple
Speaker 4: old like WrestleMania's or raws. But if you're a wrestling
Speaker 4: fan and loves to watch that like me, you just
Speaker 4: better get out your watch. And now that and The
Speaker 4: Office were the two main reasons that sold me on Peacock.
Speaker 4: Now that they're losing that, it's gonna be pretty hard.
Speaker 4: Now still watch The Office, and I like the other
Speaker 4: NBC So King of Queens is a great show. I
Speaker 4: love to go back and watch some of that. But
Speaker 4: that is huge WWE lifer. That's gonna be taking a
Speaker 4: blow because you know, I like to I like to
Speaker 4: watch them old old grappling every now and then.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying is the only thing keeping you
Speaker 2: with the Cock is the old WWE, hcw wrestling right, Yes, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are with you. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I know you're not alone there
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Speaker 2: So one of the things I've talked about when it
Speaker 2: comes to the Transfer portal is that you know it's
Speaker 2: not just about who you go out there and ad,
Speaker 2: it's who you retain, and you just know you're going
Speaker 2: to lose players every year, and the hope is that
Speaker 2: the guys that leave, more of them are not guys
Speaker 2: that you wanted to be gone, but you understand why
Speaker 2: they're leaving, and you see them gone as an opportunity
Speaker 2: for Jeff Brohm to go get somebody to replace that person,
Speaker 2: maybe not even at the same position, but maybe you've
Speaker 2: got a weakness elsewhere because somebody you did want to
Speaker 2: keep ended up leaving to go play you know, tight
Speaker 2: end elsewhere. So anyways, Louisville I feel like had had
Speaker 2: done really, really well because they've had a lot of
Speaker 2: guys into the transfer portal, just like everybody else. I
Speaker 2: don't think they're up there. I know, Kentucky and Arkansas
Speaker 2: were the two teams that had more guys leaving than
Speaker 2: anybody else from.
Speaker 3: The port but Louisvill's had their fair share of guys
Speaker 3: at the portal.
Speaker 2: And you know, there's certain guys that I think, are
Speaker 2: you know, fine players, you know, I you know, but
Speaker 2: I totally think Louisville can be fine without him, and
Speaker 2: I get while they're leaving. But Mason Rager is the
Speaker 2: easy to forget because he didn't play all this year.
Speaker 2: He got hurt, But he's the first one where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it didn't really hurt because again, Louisville didn't have him
Speaker 2: this year, so you already win a year without him.
Speaker 2: But like to know, oh yeah, that guy was pretty
Speaker 2: damn good in Brahm's first year. To know that he
Speaker 2: was leaving that that that kind of sucked, But it
Speaker 2: wasn't as bad as the news I got yesterday. Jamari Johnson,
Speaker 2: the tight end who showed a lot of upside, a
Speaker 2: lot of talent that he has, and it really started
Speaker 2: to show before he got hurt in that game against
Speaker 2: Virginia and then missed the rest of the season. So
Speaker 2: he is without question.
Speaker 4: In the group.
Speaker 2: And I don't I mean, maybe he's alone because I
Speaker 2: feel like not to say that you can easily just
Speaker 2: move on with Mason riger but again you've already gone
Speaker 2: a year without him. But I think Jamari Johnson, wherever
Speaker 2: he ends up, is going to be really, really, really good,
Speaker 2: and he may in fact end up being one of
Speaker 2: those those guys that you you really, you know, like
Speaker 2: didn't think to me, there's no reason for him to leave,
Speaker 2: But again, he has the choice, and it's his choice.
Speaker 2: He can do it. I'm not bitter, I'm not angry
Speaker 2: at him. It's his life and he wants to go elsewhere,
Speaker 2: so that's his decision. But you know, Nil clearly is
Speaker 2: it was something he could have gotten here. And I
Speaker 2: don't get the sense at all that it's about Anil.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's about. But you know, he
Speaker 2: would have played a lot here, and he would have
Speaker 2: played in an offense that really really utilized him, and
Speaker 2: he would have had a chance to have some pretty
Speaker 2: good numbers and statistics. So you know, he may be
Speaker 2: one of those guys that you don't know who to blame,
Speaker 2: You don't know who to be mad at. Maybe you're
Speaker 2: gonna be mad at him because he dumped you essentially,
Speaker 2: but like I would be shocked if he's not really
Speaker 2: successful elsewhere. There's been some other guys that have had,
Speaker 2: you know, some success that moved on, like Caleb Banks
Speaker 2: at Florida has has has done well for himself. But
Speaker 2: I think again, the majority of the guys that you've
Speaker 2: ended up losing, you know, they've kind of ended up
Speaker 2: showing that there was a reason they left louisvill because
Speaker 2: they tell to a lower level or they went to
Speaker 2: maybe a similar level and we're kind of the same player.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Jamar Johnson, that one hurt. All right, quick break,
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Speaker 2: I think it was on Monday. We were discussing the
Speaker 2: board meeting, the UFL Board of Trustees meeting for the
Speaker 2: athletic Department. I guess it's the ULEA board. They had
Speaker 2: scheduled a meeting or some kind of a get together.
Speaker 2: I'm sure it was a meeting or something. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of steps and going to get something done at
Speaker 2: u of L and most universities to where there's a
Speaker 2: few different meetings that are really all just part of
Speaker 2: a process. I'm not sure what part of the process was.
Speaker 2: But initially when you see just the public record of
Speaker 2: the meeting happening, you know there's no details, but I
Speaker 2: don't know if I guess it wasn't expected, so there
Speaker 2: was some worry.
Speaker 3: Okay, what is this about? Because what they were going
Speaker 3: to discuss could have, you know, gave.
Speaker 2: The indication that it was going to be either some
Speaker 2: kind of a hire or some kind of a disciplinary thing,
Speaker 2: something in that, you know, in that world, and nobody
Speaker 2: had a clue. I didn't even see anybody making any
Speaker 2: kind of guess or speculation. But what it ended up
Speaker 2: being was a contract extension for Josh Hurd And I
Speaker 2: don't think the final steps have happened yet, but it
Speaker 2: is happening. Josh Hurt is getting a contract extension. And
Speaker 2: I don't know what to compare this to as far
Speaker 2: as like the terms, but it's twenty twenty four, about
Speaker 2: to be twenty twenty five, and I was surprised. But again,
Speaker 2: don't I don't reference athletic director contracts when it comes
Speaker 2: to the amount of years and the amount of money,
Speaker 2: just because you know, it's not something that's publicly covered.
Speaker 2: And I've never really given a damn and I really
Speaker 2: don't care. But to me, I felt like to see
Speaker 2: that the extension goes through twenty thirty that sounded like
Speaker 2: a really long time, So I'm not maybe maybe that's normal,
Speaker 2: Maybe it is lengthy. I don't know, maybe it's on
Speaker 2: the short end. I'm not sure. But for those asking
Speaker 2: what would have warranted that, I have no clue, but
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked if it's because maybe Josh knows
Speaker 2: that he has other option. Maybe he knows he could
Speaker 2: go work elsewhere. I don't have I don't have a clue.
Speaker 2: You know that he that he'd ever leave, or that
Speaker 2: he wanted to leave, or that he was looking. But
Speaker 2: you know, for him to get a contract extension with
Speaker 2: still some time left on the deal and one that
Speaker 2: runs through twenty thirty, maybe that's just his superiors wanting
Speaker 2: to let him know how much they value him. Or
Speaker 2: maybe he was looking for a new contract and it
Speaker 2: got to the negotiation table and that's where they ended up.
Speaker 2: I really don't know, but I understand that there's some
Speaker 2: people that maybe still are. Here's what I'll tell you
Speaker 2: about Josh Hurd, just from from you know, my thoughts.
Speaker 2: I think he's done a fine job. I think anything
Speaker 2: that you'd be really critical of about U of L,
Speaker 2: you could also understand that that outcome, that result, that
Speaker 2: that that got you there was more than just him.
Speaker 2: You know, he made the decision to hire Kenny Payne.
Speaker 2: I really respected that he wanted to make it clear
Speaker 2: that he did it. It was his choice, but we
Speaker 2: also know and you know he was that was that
Speaker 2: was the move that people wanted him to make, and
Speaker 2: you know he was influenced. I don't mean, I don't
Speaker 2: mean that he was forced to do it, but there's
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. People who you know, their approval
Speaker 2: of him, would would really would really benefit Josh. That's
Speaker 2: what they wanted him to do. And people can say
Speaker 2: whatever they want now. I didn't like the idea of
Speaker 2: hiring a first time head coach because you know, I
Speaker 2: felt like there was never a time where you needed
Speaker 2: more of a proven guy at that time, just because
Speaker 2: of how things ended with Mac. But whenever I and
Speaker 2: again it's funny to say now because Kenny was proven
Speaker 2: to be one of the worst coaches or maybe the
Speaker 2: worst coach of all time in college basketball. But if
Speaker 2: we're talking about going and getting Matt McMahon at Murray State,
Speaker 2: Greg Gard at Wisconsin, or let's take a chance on
Speaker 2: this Kenny Paine guy who played here, won a championship
Speaker 2: and apparently is this ace recruiter, then we'll do that.
Speaker 2: And clearly I would have been wrong, just like Josh
Speaker 2: and everybody else I mean, maybe others would have said no,
Speaker 2: but I just felt like Louiell wasn't gonna be able
Speaker 2: to go get a big name, and I was willing
Speaker 2: to take a chance on Kenny more so than somebody
Speaker 2: that we didn't know, and clearly that was a terrible mistake. So,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you want to see how well Pat
Speaker 2: does before you feel like Josh is capable to make
Speaker 2: these kind of decisions and these kind of hires.
Speaker 3: And if that's your if that's where you stand, then
Speaker 3: I don't think that's crazy.
Speaker 2: But I also don't think, you know, to Josh's benefit,
Speaker 2: to Josh's credit, I don't you know. People can say
Speaker 2: that that Brohm would have come here regardless if Josh
Speaker 2: was the ad or not.
Speaker 3: They're probably right.
Speaker 2: In fact, I think they are right, But that's also
Speaker 2: not a negative to Josh. That's just the situation, right.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean, you know, doesn't mean if Jeff Brom
Speaker 2: was not Jeff Bram who played here at Louisville and
Speaker 2: had any connections, maybe Josh would has been able to
Speaker 2: persuade him. So like, just because something, just because he
Speaker 2: benefited from something, doesn't mean it should be held against him.
Speaker 2: And I do think he deserves a lot of credit
Speaker 2: for how he handled Scott's Saderfield that couldn't have worked
Speaker 2: out better. He didn't bluff and and Scott read the
Speaker 2: room and left and found a new landing spot. A
Speaker 2: lot of AD's I don't think would have done that.
Speaker 2: So I'm not here to tell you that Josh is
Speaker 2: the best athletic director the world. But I also don't
Speaker 2: think there's anything that's transpired other than the Kenny Payne
Speaker 2: higher that would like, really be alarming. But I also,
Speaker 2: you know, know that he would you know, that wasn't
Speaker 2: I mean, that was a mistake, and he's the one
Speaker 2: who ultimately had to say so. But there's way more
Speaker 2: to it than that, and I think we all know it.
Speaker 2: So to see that the contract extension is apparently to
Speaker 2: twenty thirty again, I think it shows that the people
Speaker 2: who are in charge of his you know, people who
Speaker 2: are above him, people who he works for essentially that
Speaker 2: decide these kind of things, they really value him. And
Speaker 2: I you know, there's not been any big, big, big
Speaker 2: moment to where I'm like, Wow, what a phenomenal move
Speaker 2: by this AD. But I also think he's done some
Speaker 2: pretty good things that are pretty obvious, and there's really
Speaker 2: nothing that would make me think, oh goodness, this guy
Speaker 2: is terrible. He's incompetent. And again, you talked to me
Speaker 2: a year ago during this exact time actually with Kenny,
Speaker 2: I maybe would have said different. But you know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of things going on that people don't have
Speaker 2: a whole lot of you know, info.
Speaker 3: About, and that that matters.
Speaker 2: But also, you know, Josh can't put a motion into
Speaker 2: the decision, although we wanted him to because we were
Speaker 2: you know, his fans just thinking you can't get rid
Speaker 2: of this guy faster. But I also don't think that
Speaker 2: Louisville benefited in any way last year if they would
Speaker 2: have gotten rid of Kenny beforehand, so you know, meaning
Speaker 2: if they got rid of in midseason. So you know,
Speaker 2: the only thing that surprised me in regards to the
Speaker 2: contract was just how long it was. But I'm willing
Speaker 2: to say that that may just be the norm, and
Speaker 2: if that's the case, then you know, that's just how
Speaker 2: it works, all right, Coffee and Company, we are feel
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Speaker 2: so we talk a lot about sports wagering here. It's
Speaker 2: a big part of our of our culture when it
Speaker 2: comes to watching sports. I know there are people that don't,
Speaker 2: you know, get involved in sports betting and don't wager,
Speaker 2: but you know, degenerate they clearly know all about it
Speaker 2: now because it's it's very much in your face that
Speaker 2: sports betting is a humongous industry, and you know, it
Speaker 2: used to be something that you know, was illegal and
Speaker 2: it was frowned upon, and now you can't watch a
Speaker 2: love sporting event without being bombarded with advertisements from these
Speaker 2: sports books. And these sports books are you know, essentially
Speaker 2: in bed with the NBA, the NFL, that kind of stuff. So,
Speaker 2: you know, even people that don't do it, I mean,
Speaker 2: I would imagine it hasn't been such an issue that
Speaker 2: they don't watch sports anymore. But this is good, a
Speaker 2: good breakdown from Legal sports Report dot Com that kind
Speaker 2: of just tells you some some information and some numbers
Speaker 2: when it comes to the demographic that is in sports betting.
Speaker 2: So young betters in the twenty one to thirty four
Speaker 2: age range remain very much like the bigger you know,
Speaker 2: the people who do it the most. Probably not the
Speaker 2: most money, I guess. But it says at least sixty
Speaker 2: percent of people from twenty to twenty one to thirty
Speaker 2: four are placing at least three bets a week, compared
Speaker 2: to the overall average of forty seven percent. It says
Speaker 2: the age group also led in average bet size, wagering
Speaker 2: approximately fifty eight dollars per bet compared to forty nine
Speaker 2: to fifty overall. Better sixty five or older tend to
Speaker 2: place the smallest bets. Man, I feel like a real
Speaker 2: poor here, Austin. I don't want to get into my
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into unit size, you know,
Speaker 2: because you know some of us aren't as blessed when
Speaker 2: it comes to unit size. But you know, when I'm
Speaker 2: laying down a couple of units on something, I'm talking
Speaker 2: like twenty bucks, that's a steep bet for me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And here we got the average age of people, you know,
Speaker 2: younger than me, their average bet is fifty eight bucks
Speaker 2: per bet. They're probably not doing parlays, right, No, those
Speaker 2: are straight betters and hey, and if I was just
Speaker 2: and I do both, although I do tend to be
Speaker 2: more of a parlay guy. I just do fewer legs
Speaker 2: with a little bit more unit unit level on it. However,
Speaker 2: if I was, like if parlays didn't exist, I would
Speaker 2: imagine that my unit size would would would probably go up,
Speaker 2: maybe maybe substantially. But you know, a fifty eight dollars
Speaker 2: bet on anything for me is it sounds steep?
Speaker 3: But again it's a lot. I'm not as blessed as others.
Speaker 4: And the sportsbooks have it right with you call it
Speaker 4: breathing stupid air. Right, It's like the same thing that
Speaker 4: you do when you walk into a casino. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: and how you build your parlay like they do a
Speaker 4: great job. They make all their money on parlay, Yeah,
Speaker 4: because they you can see, like you increasing your odds
Speaker 4: and what that twenty dollars can turn into Like that
Speaker 4: twenty dollars off a single bet. It's just the turnout
Speaker 4: is only forty bucks. But the more you add to
Speaker 4: it all, just twenty dollars could be three hundred and
Speaker 4: forty seven because you don't up the odds to yeah
Speaker 4: plus thirteen.
Speaker 2: They know that people can't resist seeing Okay, these are
Speaker 2: these are this is all likely, so yeah, let's do this,
Speaker 2: let's do it, you know. And that's all true. And
Speaker 2: I'm a sucker that does that pretty frequently. So yeah,
Speaker 2: you're welcome, FanDuel. But when it comes to the ride
Speaker 2: of a parlay, that's also a factor for me too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not just that you get more I mean, it
Speaker 2: makes sense if you get more bets correct and it's
Speaker 2: all one bet essentially, that's what a parlay is, then
Speaker 2: you know you're you're going to get more money. But
Speaker 2: it also you know, I'm willing to say that the
Speaker 2: mond even if even if I want a parlay and
Speaker 2: let's just say the put it this way. Let's say
Speaker 2: whatever I bet the winnings were going to be twenty bucks,
Speaker 2: if it was a parlay that had three legs, or
Speaker 2: if it was a straight bet they gave me those
Speaker 2: same winnings, I would have more joy and feel more like.
Speaker 3: Hell yeah if the parlay hit. Yeah, so it's more
Speaker 3: of a ride, you know.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's kind of why I really do like
Speaker 2: doing parlays. But you know, I'm well aware that the
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm part of it, that that's how
Speaker 2: they make a lot of money. In fact, too, parlays
Speaker 2: are the most popular with younger folks. This is roughly
Speaker 2: sixty percent of folks that are in the age range
Speaker 2: of twenty one to fifty four said parlays are same
Speaker 2: game parlays are their favorite type of wager, which was
Speaker 2: the highest percentage of any of the demographics. Now, as
Speaker 2: far as sports betting demos by app, this one, I
Speaker 2: really wouldn't have had a clue because I don't think
Speaker 2: of a certain sports book and think, Okay, they reach
Speaker 2: this demo or that demo. But ESPN bet has the
Speaker 2: largest proportion of younger users, with forty four percent of
Speaker 2: its audience in that twenty one to thirty four age range,
Speaker 2: followed closely by Bet three sixty five at forty three percent.
Speaker 2: I've never used Bet three sixty five. I don't think
Speaker 2: the homies like BET three sixty five, do they?
Speaker 4: No, No, that's one of the one of the apps
Speaker 4: that I'm shunned from.
Speaker 2: I didn't know if you were gonna put it out
Speaker 2: there That's why I said what I said. But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's uh, they'vey've banned my man. Uh and they can't
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: They lift it, lift it. I'll come back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, uh, Caesars and BETMGM, which are those even
Speaker 2: available here in Kentucky?
Speaker 4: MGM is I don't know that the Caesars one.
Speaker 2: When I think of Caesars, I just think of the boat,
Speaker 2: you know cross, Yeah, that's their that's their sports school.
Speaker 2: But Caesars and BETMGM. They that says they've honed in
Speaker 2: on marketing strategies tied to their physical properties. Over the
Speaker 2: last few years, had the highest percentage of the sixty
Speaker 2: five plus demo at five percent each. That makes total
Speaker 2: sense because again, like the only casino that's near us
Speaker 2: there's their sports book is is Caesars. So I guess
Speaker 2: if you're somebody that's been betting physically at locations for
Speaker 2: a while and you tend to you know, then it
Speaker 2: becomes legal to do it online, like in Indiana a
Speaker 2: few years ago. Maybe you've just stayed loyal to that
Speaker 2: same that same sports book says here the Fanatics boasts
Speaker 2: the largest share of women betters at thirty nine percent.
Speaker 2: Just to as Caesars, which is a thirty eight percent,
Speaker 2: and bet three sixty five has the most male dominated
Speaker 2: user base, which is twenty one percent of the betters
Speaker 2: being female. DraftKings and FanDuel were next when it comes
Speaker 2: to women, with the twenty two percent of each of
Speaker 2: their books players being on the female side. Now no surprise,
Speaker 2: NFL remains the most popular eighty five percent of the
Speaker 2: people who bet are betting on the NFL and shocking,
Speaker 2: and the NBA is at fifty five which speaking of
Speaker 2: the NBA, I want to get to this later. I
Speaker 2: watched the NBA last night for the first time in
Speaker 2: a long time, and I mean, the product is trash.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like I'm the boomer that
Speaker 2: used to just say the NBA all they do, they
Speaker 2: don't call all walks and nothing to do with that.
Speaker 2: The product's is not good.
Speaker 4: It's not good.
Speaker 2: It's it's really tough to watch. So we'll talk about
Speaker 2: that and a lot more baseball. Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 2: never watched baseball, but he still loved the NBA. What
Speaker 2: happened to the game?
Speaker 4: I love? Yeah? What happened that? Mark the Mark?
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson? What happened to the game I once loved
Speaker 2: because it's not good right now, all right, quick break,
Speaker 2: don't go in where, keep it locked right here on
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Speaker 2: So I guess while we were discussing the Josh Hurd
Speaker 2: contract extension, it did get the final stamp of approval
Speaker 2: in u of L has sent out a press release
Speaker 2: and it is a deal that will pay him or
Speaker 2: that will that will employ him up until twenty thirty.
Speaker 2: So again I have no clue if that is a
Speaker 2: you know, standard amount of time, or if if he
Speaker 2: got a deal that was lengthier than others because they
Speaker 2: just want to make sure they lock him down because
Speaker 2: they value what he does. And again, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't need to get into it. I just did about
Speaker 2: twenty minutes ago. But yeah, it is now. It is
Speaker 2: now official, and I'm looking. This is a quote from
Speaker 2: the This is a quote from President Kim Shatzel. The
Speaker 2: contract extension is a great signal of the confidence that
Speaker 2: the university has in Josh is tremendous leadership. He's the
Speaker 2: right person and the right leader to take you athletics
Speaker 2: toward its very bright future. Not only does Josh care
Speaker 2: deeply about our athletics department, but he also cares about
Speaker 2: the university and our community. We look forward to supporting
Speaker 2: him and his role for many years to come. So
Speaker 2: that's a deal that says here that, Yeah, he was
Speaker 2: the interim athletic director. That's what I couldn't remember is
Speaker 2: how long ago it was when he became the interim,
Speaker 2: which was in December of twenty one, and then he
Speaker 2: was elevated to the full time spot in June of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. So lockdown now until twenty thirty. All right,
Speaker 2: it's coffee and the company. We are feel about Thorton's
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Speaker 2: with us here on a Thursday afternoon, so I know
Speaker 2: that when it comes to let me see him pull
Speaker 2: it up here? Where did it go?
Speaker 4: Where did it go? Oka?
Speaker 2: Found it? Sorry, distracted by something that just came in,
Speaker 2: not on the text loan, but something that just sent
Speaker 2: to my phone.
Speaker 4: Has that ever happened to you?
Speaker 2: I'm sure it has. You just completely get lost on
Speaker 2: something that something ampletely you know, completely well, I mean
Speaker 2: I guess it could be something along those lines. But
Speaker 2: and it wasn't some kind of an emergency. But I
Speaker 2: just got just got a message from somebody that just
Speaker 2: literally made me block out for a brief second. And
Speaker 2: it's not even like I'm scared, It's just it was
Speaker 2: something really random that I wasn't expecting. And that's why
Speaker 2: I should turn my phone over, which I used to do.
Speaker 2: I used to just turn my phone completely, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: facing down to where and it's on a table next
Speaker 2: to me, to where I don't hear it if it
Speaker 2: goes off, because that can easily, you know, easily get distracted.
Speaker 2: So apologies, but anyways, we'll get this thing back on track,
Speaker 2: all right. So last night Louisville and UTAP we did
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about just the overall you know, performance,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't great. I think it was probably the
Speaker 2: worst I've seen this team look thus far, and it
Speaker 2: was because of a lot of reasons. Couldn't make shots,
Speaker 2: had some slobby turnovers earlier. But they did get a
Speaker 2: little bit better at taking care of the ball later on.
Speaker 2: But this was the this was the third game since
Speaker 2: you've realized that you don't have case in pryor and
Speaker 2: you know the third game where you know, hey, this
Speaker 2: is what you.
Speaker 4: Have to work with.
Speaker 2: So the ole Miss game in the Duke game, those
Speaker 2: were games clearly against you know, really good teams. And
Speaker 2: then you play utep a game the team that you're
Speaker 2: supposed to be regardless of your injury situation. So you know,
Speaker 2: the last three games, obviously I wanted Louisville to win
Speaker 2: all of them, and they did not. They went one
Speaker 2: and two. I'm still just trying to figure out, okay,
Speaker 2: if there's gonna be somewhat of a change in identity
Speaker 2: or at least just you know, adjustments made. What are
Speaker 2: we doing right? Are we not going to play as fast?
Speaker 2: Are we not going to shoot as many threes? What's
Speaker 2: the core rotation going to be now that you're only
Speaker 2: playing seven guys? And I really feel like after the
Speaker 2: first three chances to see you know this, I mean,
Speaker 2: I want to call it a new Louisville team, but
Speaker 2: a new version that is, you know, not as it
Speaker 2: doesn't have as many guys. So you know, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be tough to play the way you want to play.
Speaker 2: And I do think against Duke, you saw some half
Speaker 2: court sets that you know, we were effective. I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, there there was a there was and I
Speaker 2: don't when I say that there was much more. There
Speaker 2: was a much more. There was a higher level of
Speaker 2: execution in the half court. I don't want to act
Speaker 2: like before that they weren't executing, but you know, it
Speaker 2: was more of a structured thing to where okay, instead
Speaker 2: of just knowing we can just you know, go fast
Speaker 2: and try to find somebody who can get a good
Speaker 2: clean look within rhythm from three, you know, we need
Speaker 2: to we need to be a little bit more patient
Speaker 2: and run something. Run a set that that's why it's
Speaker 2: called a set. So you know, you saw a little
Speaker 2: bit of a little bit of that, a little bit
Speaker 2: of that last night. But you know, just the turn
Speaker 2: you know, again, the number the turnover, the amount of
Speaker 2: turnovers that Louisville had last night obviously wasn't alarming, but
Speaker 2: it was pretty sloppy early and actually, more than anything,
Speaker 2: I feel like the majority of their turnovers are unforced.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, it's it's somebody like getting in the
Speaker 2: way of a pass when Louisville's passing it to a teammate,
Speaker 2: Like I think that happened twice last night. It's kicking
Speaker 2: it off your foot, it's stepping on the inbound line,
Speaker 2: it's just throwing it in, not you know, not being
Speaker 2: on the same page with your teammate and throwing it
Speaker 2: as he's running away. Like I feel like those have
Speaker 2: been maybe not the majority of the turnovers that they've had,
Speaker 2: but certainly way more of those you than you would expect.
Speaker 2: So there's little things you can do, because here's the
Speaker 2: reality when it comes to Louisville, like being the best
Speaker 2: version of what they can be with the players that
Speaker 2: they have, and I don't even really know what that
Speaker 2: best version is, but you know you're gonna need to
Speaker 2: make shots. You can't have nights where you shoot thirty
Speaker 2: plus threes and you shoot less than twenty percent. That's
Speaker 2: just that's a recipe to get your ass kicked by
Speaker 2: anybody with a pulse, to be honest with you, that's
Speaker 2: just that's just the reality of it. So but you
Speaker 2: can't go out there and add a player, and you
Speaker 2: can't you can't expect guys to like do something that
Speaker 2: they've never really been able to do. Like, here's there's
Speaker 2: not a guy right now that you can put in
Speaker 2: the game that you feel like is a real physical
Speaker 2: presence in the post. When it comes to physicality, when
Speaker 2: it comes to just presence or you know, the ability
Speaker 2: to score in the post, we don't have. But that
Speaker 2: guy doesn't exist. And I don't think Noah Watermen or
Speaker 2: James Scott are going to turn into that guy at
Speaker 2: any point. So you know, given what you have, I
Speaker 2: think you got to you gotta really try to maximize
Speaker 2: and get every bit you can get out of three
Speaker 2: guys Chucky, Hepburn, Kahani ruths in, Terrence Edwards, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna throw Javon Hadley in there as well. I think
Speaker 2: Javaon is a little bit limited as far as just
Speaker 2: like being able to take a guy one on one
Speaker 2: or you know, he doesn't really have a he doesn't
Speaker 2: really have something in his bag offensively that like you
Speaker 2: know you can really lean on. But he's a he's
Speaker 2: pretty good at just about everything, and he plays pretty
Speaker 2: tough and you know, he's serviceable in every aspect. So
Speaker 2: like if he's just consistent, then that's okay. Same thing
Speaker 2: with Rayn Smith. Like Rain Smith, smart player understands spacing
Speaker 2: is not as big of a defensive defensive liability as
Speaker 2: some people probably thought he would be. And if he's
Speaker 2: knocking down shots, he can change games for you. So,
Speaker 2: like you know those guys, I kind of feel like,
Speaker 2: you know, you're getting really the best of them that
Speaker 2: you can get now. Some nights that's not the case,
Speaker 2: but like I think it's not as if you need
Speaker 2: to really like reach in and figure out something they
Speaker 2: can provide that they haven't provided yet. But I think
Speaker 2: with Terrence Edwards and you're starting to see it, you know,
Speaker 2: I know he drafts people crazy at times, but you
Speaker 2: know he can get to the free throw line and
Speaker 2: sometimes it takes him forever to get a shot off,
Speaker 2: but sometimes they go in. Sometimes he makes three point shots.
Speaker 2: So Chucky Edwards, Ruth's and did I say somebody else
Speaker 2: that they're like, like, I'm there's a name I just
Speaker 2: mentioned that I'm kind of blanking on Rain Smith. No, Rain,
Speaker 2: I mentioned Rain for being the guy that like you know,
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna need him, but like the what
Speaker 2: you're getting now, like I kind of feel like you're
Speaker 2: getting really not all that he has. And there's gonna
Speaker 2: be some games where maybe he can make a ton
Speaker 2: of threes, and there may be some games where Hadley's
Speaker 2: gonna get eighteen rebounds, But like, I don't think you're
Speaker 2: reaching in to get something out of those guys we
Speaker 2: haven't seen yet. I think if you just really try
Speaker 2: to focus your offense specific maybe not run your offense
Speaker 2: as far as a style and a system, but realize
Speaker 2: that the chances of guys being able to just go
Speaker 2: get a bucket and score on somebody or create their
Speaker 2: own offense, it's gonna be Chucky Terrence or or Can
Speaker 2: I Ruth's. I mean, you know, last night, I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm nitpicking because I was a little you know,
Speaker 2: I felt like he should have played a little more
Speaker 2: than he did, especially early on, and you know, he
Speaker 2: does make mistakes, but I just feel like there's no
Speaker 2: like when he's not in the game, I'm sorry, when
Speaker 2: he's in the game, who are you looking at on
Speaker 2: the bench and thinking, man, we got to get him
Speaker 2: back in because he's bringing us this and that and
Speaker 2: and can I can't do that? Like I don't so,
Speaker 2: I really it'd be different if he was playing behind
Speaker 2: somebody that I felt like legitimately was somebody years don't
Speaker 2: want to take off the floor, but I would give
Speaker 2: every minute to Can I rous because again I think
Speaker 2: he's talented. He showed it last night. I mean those
Speaker 2: two dunks, like nobody else on the team's doing that.
Speaker 2: And you know he's he's he's gonna make mistakes like
Speaker 2: anybody else, and sometimes his mistakes are going to look
Speaker 2: more youthful. But if in the end it gets it
Speaker 2: to where he's a much different player in six weeks,
Speaker 2: then that's that's not only a benefit to him, it's
Speaker 2: a benefit to the team. But this is just something
Speaker 2: to be reminded of. And I know last night you
Speaker 2: did not play one of these great teams that's been
Speaker 2: on your schedule. But there's some analytics out here from
Speaker 2: Let's See this. The account is CBB Analytics on Let's See.
Speaker 2: I'll read you their bio just so I can cite
Speaker 2: my source here. But it's says College Hoops number one
Speaker 2: stats platform, Gain an Edge and Scouting Strategy and Game
Speaker 2: Prep Power by NCAA Stats Live. So it's a formula
Speaker 2: that tracks defensive ratings, offensive ratings efficiency, just like it's
Speaker 2: a version of Ken Palm and the Bart Torvick and
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. So again, this does you know
Speaker 2: last night UTEP was not one of these teams, but
Speaker 2: it is important to consider Louisville has played the vast
Speaker 2: majority of of their schedules thus far against teams that
Speaker 2: are probably going to be in the INSTABA tournament. So
Speaker 2: you know, like I happen to think that that should be.
Speaker 2: You know, so if they do play well and start
Speaker 2: rolling through some of the bad teams in the ACC.
Speaker 2: And again, last night's not a good indicator because that
Speaker 2: was not a good team and you could have easily lost.
Speaker 2: But right now, Louisville has played as far as the
Speaker 2: best defensive teams in the country. They've played the fifth
Speaker 2: toughest schedule as far as just tracking defense alone. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry I have it backwards. They've played they faced the
Speaker 2: tenth toughest defense so far, but they've played they've faced
Speaker 2: the fifth toughest offense so far in the country when
Speaker 2: it comes to who they've played collectively. So you know,
Speaker 2: that didn't mean you're gonna win a bunch of games.
Speaker 2: But like to see the record being what it is
Speaker 2: isn't great. But like they've played a really challenging schedule
Speaker 2: thus far, and let's be real, it doesn't get any easier.
Speaker 2: On Saturday when you go play Kentucky, who I don't
Speaker 2: know where they are when it comes to to statistics.
Speaker 2: I think they've kind of underperformed when it comes to
Speaker 2: shooting like Louisville. Probably not nearly as bad as Louisville,
Speaker 2: but still they're a really good team. They've proven that
Speaker 2: with their wins and their resume have to this point,
Speaker 2: so you know, context always matters. Now, it doesn't guarantee
Speaker 2: that when you get to the acc section of the
Speaker 2: schedule you're much better, but you know, it wouldn't shock
Speaker 2: me if they are a team that can play like
Speaker 2: they did last night, or maybe slightly better and still
Speaker 2: roll through that league for the majority of it because
Speaker 2: the AEC is not that good, and every team that
Speaker 2: is beat level thus far right by now is considered
Speaker 2: to be a really good team or you know, maybe
Speaker 2: the number one team in the country or top ten
Speaker 2: team like Duke. All right, quick break, We will come
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