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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Chicks on the Ray podcast.

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For we are talking to our front and sponsor of

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the show, Zach Abraham from Board Capital Management. Zach, Hello,

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how are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing well? We are going to talk

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about the economic.

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Speaker 3: Blackout and what horror it caused over the weekend on

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February two, I know, right, February twenty eighth, a group

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of activists, liberal activists thought.

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Speaker 1: You know what, this is a great idea. Actually, it

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was the days leading up to February twenty eighth where

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they had been talking about this twenty four hour economic blackout.

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They advertised it. They told Americans, hey, don't buy anything

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because we want to protest all this corporate greed and

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billionaire influence. And it was a movement, right and you know,

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people like us on our show in order to you know,

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go against this economic blackout. We were like, yeah, you

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need to shop. And I'm not saying that it was

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us that did this, but apparently the movement that day

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turned out to be a huge bust. And so I

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would like to know what your thoughts are on boycotts

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and blackouts and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing that I've got a problem with this.

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I just don't understand why the boycotts and the blackouts

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of big greedy business doesn't apply to farmer.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a great point.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it funny? We got to pick selectively which big

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greedy capitalists we like, which ones we don't.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of like billionaires, right, Like some billionaires

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are bad and some billionaires are good.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, Well, you know I've had this is all fun,

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This is always a fun one. But you know how

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many times I heard that, Well, it's just, you know,

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conservatives are the party and the rich, and I'm like,

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did you see the last election two out of every

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three billionaires voted for your game?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, I think

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you know, I think you and I we've talked about

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this before. I think the way you're seeing is what

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unfortunately happens when your movement has become just bereft of

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anything substantive, right, mean, when your real platform are things

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that you can't say out loud, Right, when your real

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platform is you know, pushing the state's ability to remove

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children from the home without parents. Right, when you get

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this far out there, you have to rely on falling

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back and and and calling people Nazis. You've got to

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rely on these ridiculous kind of economic bands against a

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nameless foe that is big capitalism. Even though we swallow

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up every bit of ridiculous big capitalism, the big Pharma

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pitches our way right like, it's I just feel like

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you're watching ideological death right Like, and these people are

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so wedded to the ideology they've they've made, they've made

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such a marriage to it in their minds that they

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can't look at the They're not going to sit back

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and acknowledge that the lens that they've looked at the

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world through is completely flawed. Right, So it's just going

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to keep getting more bizarre, more out there, more conspiratorial.

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Now Elon Musk is a Nazi, right, Like, just the

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superlatives will just keep flying, and you know it's it's

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you know, I we're still having a lot of debates

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in this country about whether the mainstream media is biased.

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I was thinking about this the other day, like, why

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don't we just sit one of these people down in

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front of a TV? And I would love somebody's probably

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done it. I would just love to say, Okay, Trump's

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a racist, right, the comments he made it the one

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uh you.

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Speaker 1: Know where was the one place where Charlotteville?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Charlottesville, which has.

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Speaker 1: Been debunked like eighteen ways the Sunday Right, they keep and.

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Speaker 2: They keep doing it. But I would love to. I

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would love to run that real clip in front of

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like five of them at the same time and go,

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what do you have to say about that? Right? Right?

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Just answer that, you know, just just hear what they

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have to say. Yeah, And you know, I think that's

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you got these people now that we're gonna we're gonna

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stop spending money, and you're like, a, what do you

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think that's going to do? Second of all, your ideology

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now is to a point where you want to hurt America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I totally agree. And I think boycotts in

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general are kind of stupid. Like I remember when people

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conservatives are really pissed off at Target. Do you remember that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think they still are. I think a lot of

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them still are. But I still shop at Target. Like

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I remember when they were mad at Starbucks. I still

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I love Starbucks. I'm not going to not like we

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get people. I'll have a Starbucks cup every once in

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a while and on our podcast, and I'll get conservatives

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who are super mad at me for just holding up

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a Starbucks or just having it as a conservative, and

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I'm like, listen, I just I just think boycotts in

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general are kind of just kind of stupid. Well, I mean,

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I understand, like you, I know, you need to vote

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with your dollars. I get it. I do understand that, No,

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I do. But I do think that there's a sense

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of everybody kind of makes their own decisions in a

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free America as to what they want to purchase and

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what they and no one's going to tell me what

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to do, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, I mean there are a lot

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of people that would like to tell you what to do.

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Speaker 1: That's true, That is true.

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Speaker 2: And the irony is it comes from the side of

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the aisle that tells you that they're not for coersion,

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and then they're not for right there are right freedom.

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Speaker 1: But don't you but don't you think that boycott's usually backfire?

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Like if you look at Chick fil A, remember when

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everybody was like, hey, boycott Chick fil A. Remember how well,

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remember how well they ended up doing in that city?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think, yeah, I think I think especially in

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the age of today, like for instance, if I was

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on the left, I would sit there and I would

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acknowledge that, Hey, whatever we announce we're boycotting, there are

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going to be more people that go there and patronize

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that place. We're announcing that we're boy comfort.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's kind of like all all pr is

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good pr with that, right, even if it's bad. So

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they tell you yeah.

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Speaker 2: And this gets back to one of the look I

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don't I don't really think people are appreciative enough about

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what is going on in this country and what could

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potentially being going on in this country. Meaning you have

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a lens and a homeostasis, something that we have viewed

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an ideology of a way that we view ourselves. A

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self identity as a country. We've had for you know,

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it's it's been different at times, but I would say

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the identity that we've had as a country has really

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been that has stayed somewhat neutral and been consistent up

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until this recent generation, really since the hata World War two. Right,

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this basic outline of who we are as Americans are

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self identity. And I think that that's really being called

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into question, you know, and I think a lot of

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people are panicked about it. I hear a lot of

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people already starting to free you know the other thing

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I'm hearing about, and I don't I don't know if

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you have any thoughts on this, but I'm hearing a

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lot of people that would I would consider as rational players,

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even people that I would say that are on the right,

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that are already starting to freak out over the level

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of chaos and the Trump administration and starting to hear

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some of the critiques, people calling out the things that

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they're doing already. And look, I think that things are

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coming down the pipe fast. I've listed some concerns about,

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you know, launching a trump coin, a cryptocurrency coin. And

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the one thing though that I think people need to

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remember is that if somebody is earnestly going after the

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malignant and infected and sick parts of our government, if

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they are going after that, the din and outcry should

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be very large. Meaning the more chaotic and the crazier

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it sounds, chances are that means that you're getting at

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the right things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. I think people are freaked out

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because they're just so used to the status quo and

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they're not used to people being in government that are

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business people that gets up done so quickly, and that

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that does freak a lot of people. It doesn't freak

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me out, because I mean, I've I've worked in corporate America,

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and I know that it can. You know, things can

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get done in a in a you know, they can.

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They can get done quickly. Yeah, you know, and they

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have to, Zach, They have to because he's only got

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really two years to get a lot of stuff done

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before the midterms, and then really three three and a

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half before like campaign mode starts. So he knows he's

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got a motor to get a lot of stuff done.

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And I and you know, Mack and I have talked

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about this a lot on the show. If he doesn't

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get stuff done, this is it. This is our last

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chance to fix a lot of things in this country.

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This is this is like our only chance to turn

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the ship around. And if we don't do it this time,

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I truly don't believe it's going to get done. So

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freaks people out.

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Speaker 2: It does. It does the other thing that I think

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I don't truthfully know where this line is, but I've

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thought about this from the very beginning, which is, to

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be freaked out by what is currently going on, you

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have to think that there is some type of utility

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or purpose or something inherently good about the way things

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are right now. Right meaning, if you're freaked out about

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where we're going, I think that you're not being fully

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aware of where we're at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not being honest with yourself.

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Speaker 2: Right, meaning I think it's kind of one of those

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I think it's one of these scenarios. My wife and

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I laughed about this a lot when we first started

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our business. The history of aviation, Right, So, the Right

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brothers created the first airplane, right, and they're flying not

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first airplane, but first quarter flight, and where people wanting

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to like hobby aircraftly right, it popped up all over

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the place. Everybody want to fly. But it was extraordinarily

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dangerous at first because about sixty percent, if I'm recalling correctly,

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sixty percent of airflight, like people that took off an

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airplane died right like, like sixty percent of flights ended

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up in crashes. And the reason why we're stalls, Right,

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they'd get going too slow and they'd fall the air

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speed install. Well, finally one guy was up there flying,

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he stalls and he goes, well, hey, if I'm going out,

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I'm gonna go out and a blaze of glory. So

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he goes full throttle, pushes the stick towards the ground

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and he's like, I'm going to go out in a

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ball of fire. Right. Well, that picked up his air

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speed and he pulled out of it. Right. My point

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in saying that when my wife and I started our business,

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it felt like that our joke used to be all

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the time, this is either going to be a wild

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success or it's going to be a spectacular.

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Speaker 1: Fireball cra burn. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Either or baby, it's going to be fun. Right, it'd

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be interesting. I kind of view that in where we're

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at as far as the government, meaning if we continue

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the way we are on or the path that we're on,

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I agree with you were done anyway, right, like.

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Speaker 1: Spoken like a true entrepreneur. Yeah, Yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Broken it's a broken Areo scenario where a broken arrow scenario.

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I remember in the movie we were Soldiers, right call

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and broken arrow because they're getting over the time and

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it's just all those things. But hey, it's not perfect.

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There's going to be parts of this right friendly There's

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gonna be a couple of missiles that come in too close.

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There's gonna be some friendly fire. But it's better than

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Speaker 1: Going down, right, And that's it to me. That's quint

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essentially American. That's how the founders were. But so many

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people are so far removed from that line of thinking. Zach, Like,

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you and I are both entrepreneurs, right, so we I

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think we can relate to that line of thinking. But

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so many people are like, I need to suckle off

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daddy government and that's safe and warm, and it's like

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that's not the way it's supposed to be. Man like

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you just that's not the way it is. So that's

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why people, I think, are so freaked out and they're like,

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we have to do these economic blackouts. We have to

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show them. And it's like just stop, ye shop, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Show who, right, Like that's the other thing, Like my

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biggest thing is I want to look at everyone go, hey,

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I get it. You don't have to like Trump, keep right,

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please open your eyes and realize how bad. You've been

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getting played by both sides. Yeah, both sides. Just wake up.

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Government is the apparatus that has let you down, right

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and the RNC have let you down wake up?

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Speaker 1: Yes, totally. I love getting your perspective on these things,

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and I know people could benefit from getting your perspective

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on financial everything. So where is it that people can

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find you? How can they find you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Bullwarkcapital Management dot Com is the easiest place to

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find us. We've got our roadshow coming up here in

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the next couple of weeks. You can sign up there,

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no cause.

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Speaker 1: What's the road show? What is the road show?

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Speaker 2: The road show is where it's I try to keep

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it to forty forty five minutes. It's basically a synopsis

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of what it's like to be a client of ours,

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what the onboarding process is like. So when you get

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done with that forty five minutes, you're going to know

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who we are, what we do, how we do it,

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and you know, just a primer of everything about us,

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and it doesn't locky into anything. So then after you

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hear that, if you'd like to speak to me or

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one of our advisors, then you can go on that

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path at that time, But just kind of almost like

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a cyber meet and greet, just to kind of get

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an idea of who we are and if what we do.

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Speaker 1: Interestship fantastic. Give that website again.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Bullworkcapitalmanagement dot com. Know your Risk Radio dot com.

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Just google Zach Abraham Know your Risk Radio. Bullwork Capital

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Management not hard to find.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, Thank you, We'll talk to you next time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks as always.

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