WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:04.719 People coming in and creating. 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:08.640 Fictions about this that doesn't exist. Where's the videotape of 3 00:00:08.679 --> 00:00:11.519 anifcent island of X, Y and Z committing these frauds? 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:12.640 Why haven't you given it to us? 5 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:14.279 Do you really think I wouldn't give that to you. 6 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:18.879 If it existed. I'm working my ass off along with 7 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:20.920 the leadership at the Bureau and DJ to get you 8 00:00:20.960 --> 00:00:23.199 what we're allowed to give you. And you're going to 9 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:26.160 get the video of the cell and you're going to 10 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:28.839 see for yourself, and we will never be able to 11 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:30.079 convince everywhere. 12 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.920 But we were told that the cameras were down. Well 13 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:36.079 I don't know who said that, but that was in 14 00:00:36.119 --> 00:00:36.520 the news. 15 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:38.920 We're giving you all the footage we have. 16 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:44.399 So why wasn't that released like immediately? Why did this 17 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:46.520 speculation escalate? 18 00:00:47.439 --> 00:00:50.479 I think you'd have to ask who whatever The Attorney 19 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:59.280 general back then was Bill Barr. 20 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:11.280 Hello, welcome back to the No Way Jose Podcast. I 21 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:15.920 am your host, Jose gally Son. Today we are joined 22 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:18.680 again by the great Nick Bryant. It's been a long 23 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:20.840 time since you've having the show. Actually life the last 24 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:22.920 time actually the only other time we had mon I 25 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.239 believe was on already dead our call in show, so 26 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:29.040 now it's just me and him a little bit more 27 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:31.879 of a different format, and I think it calls for it, 28 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:37.079 given what's going on in the current zeitgeist. I've been 29 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:39.599 covering it more than enough on my show. I am 30 00:01:39.640 --> 00:01:42.239 absolutely disgusted. I think this is the death nail the 31 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:44.760 Trump administration, not that I really care for them much 32 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:48.079 to begin with, but this is the moment and there 33 00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:50.599 is no better person to have on to talk about it, 34 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:54.439 someone I consider a hero without much more ado. Let's 35 00:01:54.439 --> 00:01:56.680 go ahead and bring Nick in here. Hey, what's up, Nick, 36 00:01:56.799 --> 00:01:59.319 Pleasure to have you back on the show. Good to 37 00:01:59.319 --> 00:01:59.599 see you. 38 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:03.040 Hey, Jose glad to be back on the show. 39 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.159 Yeah, glad to have you back. Just for the purpose. 40 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:08.199 I know most of my audience knows who you are, 41 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:09.919 but you never know when you get the odd a 42 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.280 onesie two ISI a new person to the audience, or 43 00:02:12.280 --> 00:02:14.319 they're not familiar with the things that I'm familiar with. 44 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.639 Could you let our audience know who you are, and, 45 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:21.680 at least particularly for the purposes of today's discussion, why 46 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:26.639 you are a significant figure. You do play into the 47 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:29.879 kind of the parlance that is Epstein. Although you definitely 48 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.439 aren't only contained to that. You've written extensively on the 49 00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:36.719 Franklin Scandal, the Watergate scandal, and numerous other things. I 50 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:38.520 haven't read your Watergate book. I think it's only one 51 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:40.719 of your books I haven't read. But for the most part, 52 00:02:40.719 --> 00:02:42.120 i've read all of the other stuff. You do have 53 00:02:42.159 --> 00:02:45.120 great work, and you are a great agent for truth. 54 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.240 I think so. But if you could let my audience 55 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:49.120 know just kind of fill in the blanks from i'd 56 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:49.759 appreciate that. 57 00:02:51.479 --> 00:02:54.960 I've been a journalist for thirty five years. I was 58 00:02:55.039 --> 00:03:00.719 in academia for five years prior to that, and I 59 00:03:00.800 --> 00:03:04.159 moved to New York City in nineteen ninety five, and 60 00:03:04.919 --> 00:03:08.439 I moved here and I just committed myself to being 61 00:03:08.479 --> 00:03:13.560 a freelance journalist writer. And in two thousand and two 62 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:18.280 I started to investigate a pedophion network that flew kids 63 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.800 from coast to coast, that was hooked up to intelligence 64 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:26.400 that deployed blackmail. And what we're seeing today is Epstein 65 00:03:26.520 --> 00:03:28.520 is kind of a carbon copy of that. The book 66 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.680 was called The Franklin Scandal, a story of powerbrokers child 67 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:36.039 to be some betrayal, And in that pedophon network, we 68 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:41.639 saw tremendous malfeasance by the state of Nebraska and also 69 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:45.960 by the federal government, as we saw tremendous malfeasance by 70 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:48.840 the state of Florida and by the federal government in 71 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:53.840 the Epstein case and the Franklin I spent seven years 72 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:58.240 on the Franklin scandal. I really wanted to prove its existence, 73 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:01.879 and I had a very high bar for that, and 74 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.400 I live in New York City, which is the mecca publishing, 75 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:10.560 and I felt if I had enough proof, I really 76 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.479 felt this that I could get a book published on it. 77 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:17.800 And I gave the book proposal to my agent, and 78 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:23.519 then my agent unceremoniously jettisoned to me a couple of 79 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:27.040 weeks later, and then I gave the book proposal to 80 00:04:27.240 --> 00:04:30.839 another agent. It was very good, and he really did 81 00:04:31.000 --> 00:04:34.040 try to sell it. All the doors were slammed, and 82 00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:39.959 that was published two thousand and nine, twenty ten. And 83 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:43.879 that seven year investigation had taken a lot out of 84 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:48.480 me to go as far into a child traveling network 85 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:52.600 as I had gone, and just the unremitting darkness. 86 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:56.360 It takes a toll on your soul. 87 00:04:57.439 --> 00:05:02.800 But I started reading about Epstein in twan twelve, and 88 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:06.639 that he was getting massages from all these underage girls, 89 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:13.120 and that a grand jury and Florida had declared that 90 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:18.600 he hadn't molested a single underage girl. And that's exactly 91 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:22.519 what happened in the Franklin scandal. Two grand juries declared 92 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:25.600 that no children have been molested, even though scores of 93 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.839 children have been molested. And I don't know if your 94 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:31.839 audience is familiar with the machinations of a grand jury, 95 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:36.480 but a special prosecutor is chosen to oversee a grand jury, 96 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:40.720 and he or she calls the witnesses that the grand 97 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.839 jurors listened to, and he or she presents evidence to. 98 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:44.519 The grand jurs. 99 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.000 And the grand jurors are just people that have shown 100 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.560 up for jury duty and been funneled to a grand jury. 101 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:53.120 So a special prosecutor is in a unique position to 102 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:56.839 twist the minds of the grand jurors. And actually there 103 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:59.959 was a New York Supreme Court justice who said that's 104 00:06:00.000 --> 00:06:03.199 special prosecutors of grand juri's have so much power over 105 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.199 grandeurs that they could get them to indict a ham sandwich. 106 00:06:07.240 --> 00:06:09.040 And I was reading. 107 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.839 About Jeffrey Epstein molesting all these girls and then I 108 00:06:11.920 --> 00:06:17.240 was also saw that grand jury declared that he hadn't 109 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:21.920 molested a single child, and that reminded me very much 110 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:23.000 of the Franklin scandal. 111 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.000 And although I was somewhat. 112 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:28.199 Depleted in a lot of different ways, I went down 113 00:06:28.199 --> 00:06:32.680 to Florida and I did what I do. I start 114 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:36.879 knocking on doors and start talking to people, and I 115 00:06:36.959 --> 00:06:41.319 ultimately got Epstein's Black Book on my first trip to Florida. 116 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:43.920 And I came back to New York and I thought 117 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:48.199 for sure I could sell a story on the Black Book. 118 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:53.600 I mean, I didn't think that that would be a problem. 119 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:56.759 So I was meeting with editors, and when I was 120 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:59.720 meeting with editors and publishers for the Franklin Scandal, I 121 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.639 could see the wheels go around. 122 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.439 I could see that they were thinking to themselves. 123 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.279 I do have to real quick not to cut off 124 00:07:06.279 --> 00:07:08.399 your flow. I do have to muse how funny it 125 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:10.600 is now? I mean, maybe not funny, Maybe it's the 126 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:15.839 wrong word looking back now, how essentially this bombshell story 127 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:17.959 that it was just kind of like you were struggling 128 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:21.079 to get it published. I just think there's a maybe 129 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:24.199 a note for people there. And there's always this sometimes 130 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.519 when conspiratorial thinking comes in people go, oh, well, if 131 00:07:27.560 --> 00:07:29.720 this was a thing, then this would happen, you know, 132 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:32.680 this would totally be in the media or whatever. So sorry, 133 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:34.480 but I just had to note that, so go on, 134 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:36.680 that is noted. 135 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:38.959 So I came back to New York and I was 136 00:07:39.000 --> 00:07:39.480 talking to. 137 00:07:39.519 --> 00:07:43.399 Editors, I was talking to publishers, and I could see 138 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:45.319 the cognitive dissonance. 139 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.399 Emerge before my very eyes. 140 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:52.040 They were thinking to themselves, this is really a horrible story, 141 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.360 and all these children of them elasted. We need to 142 00:07:54.399 --> 00:07:58.240 help Nick Bryant, or I can write Nick Bryant off 143 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:00.759 as crazy right now, and I don't have to worry 144 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:03.079 about this anymore, and I can have a nice meal 145 00:08:03.160 --> 00:08:06.560 with my family tonight. So that's what happened when I 146 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:09.959 was pitching the Franklin scandal. And that's what happened when 147 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:10.800 I was pitching. 148 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:11.600 The Epstein scandal. 149 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:17.000 Even after I had acquired The Black Book. So I 150 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:21.600 went to just about every publisher that I could, and 151 00:08:21.639 --> 00:08:24.120 I attempted to sell the Black Book in an article 152 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:26.560 on in the Black Book, and finally Gauncter published the 153 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:27.120 Black Book. 154 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:28.920 And by that time I had had flight. 155 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:32.200 Logs too, so I was the first guy to put 156 00:08:32.240 --> 00:08:34.240 the Black Book up, and also the first guy to 157 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:38.639 put the flight logs up. And then once Gaunktor took 158 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:44.440 a chance with the Black Book, then the floodgates opened. 159 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.799 Tons of ink were dumped have been dumped on stories 160 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:52.519 about the Black Book and the Passenger Manifest for that matter. 161 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:58.639 But the mainstream media just won't let me in. They 162 00:08:58.720 --> 00:08:59.440 will not let me in. 163 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:03.600 I in on lots of big podcasts, but the mainstream 164 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:07.840 media just will not let Nick Bryant in to explain 165 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.960 the Epstein scan, the Epstein scan, and and that's that's 166 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:14.279 been kind of frustrating to me. 167 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:19.440 Mm absolutely, And you have I mean you've been this Hey, 168 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.480 you've been putting out good work for a long period 169 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.120 of time. You really are a great example I think 170 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.320 of time preference and how it could possibly pay off 171 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:29.279 the long run because you've been slogging along and now you, 172 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.080 in my opinion, are going to go on later to be, 173 00:09:32.159 --> 00:09:33.960 you know, one of the greatest journalists of our time, 174 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:36.679 because you were one of the people that you know, 175 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:39.039 we're on this, but I don't know, you don't always 176 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:42.440 get rewarded with the with the with all all the 177 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.360 things with it immediately. Sometimes you have to defer gratitude 178 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.639 and just kind of follow your own individual moral compass. 179 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:50.559 So well, I hope. 180 00:09:50.480 --> 00:09:56.120 If I do, if this does put me jettison me 181 00:09:57.320 --> 00:09:59.879 in this space, I hope it's not posthumously. 182 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:03.200 Yeah. Yeah, that's how we all hope. We all hope 183 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.399 for greatness, and it's not bust homes posthumously. It's like, 184 00:10:06.440 --> 00:10:08.960 make sure you include that asterisk when you when you 185 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:13.039 rub the lamp, the Genie lamp for that one. Uh. 186 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:15.120 But uh, I mean sometimes it's just the way the 187 00:10:15.120 --> 00:10:16.919 cookie crumbles, and uh, I don't know. I think it. 188 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.639 I think it says something about a man. But you know, 189 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:22.600 there's there's definitely a you're an inter interesting character. At 190 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:25.240 this point in time, this story has flourished into something 191 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.200 far more than I thought it would. This is Uh. 192 00:10:28.320 --> 00:10:31.360 The cynic in me has always thought this, there's gonna somehow, 193 00:10:31.480 --> 00:10:34.919 some way, some shape, some form get buried like every 194 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:38.159 other scandal. But I don't know, I think, I don't. 195 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:39.600 I just I don't know if it had the red 196 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:42.159 I don't know if it's just the dynamic of the Trump, 197 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:45.360 the thing that is Trump, the vibe that what you know, 198 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.720 carried him through his twenty sixteen administration with these like 199 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:54.159 bombastic type claims. In this way, he kind of outchads people. 200 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:58.840 I guess, uh if perhaps maybe he over asserted and 201 00:10:58.919 --> 00:11:01.759 he thought he could literally take this up into including 202 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:05.240 things like pedophilia. I don't know, but I think common 203 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:08.200 people take that and go, no, I don't know, this 204 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:09.799 is kind of where we draw the line. Maybe we'll 205 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:12.240 let you be bombastic about this or that. But there 206 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:14.600 is a certain line, and they found it, and they 207 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:17.279 have been, you know, an entire administration. It seems like 208 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:20.240 there was at least flirting that was a subtle way 209 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.200 to put it, flirting with truth for Epstein, the Epstein files, 210 00:11:24.240 --> 00:11:27.799 the Epstein lists. Then now we have seen nothing but 211 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:30.919 an entire kind of a whiplash of a one to 212 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.960 eighty since they've been in power. And I mean, the 213 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:35.879 only thing I can think is maybe they just thought 214 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:37.840 that we could they could just kind of handwave it 215 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:40.559 away fake news and move on. But I think this 216 00:11:40.639 --> 00:11:42.320 might just be a bridge too far. And as I 217 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:44.279 said in my intro, I think this will be the 218 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:48.360 death knell of this administration. I do not see how 219 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:50.799 they weather this. I mean, they have kind of masterfully 220 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:53.759 if you want to attribute motive or or that this 221 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:57.279 is somehow being controlled. I mean, hell, we've had the 222 00:11:57.679 --> 00:12:00.440 I mean now we're at the government shut down, had 223 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.320 the recess, and we had the Charlie Kirk shooting that 224 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:07.279 just almost perfectly like sent manna, sent from above from 225 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:12.600 God kind of delayed the inevitable, the the the I 226 00:12:12.679 --> 00:12:16.360 know this the calling that is the truth of the Epstein. Now, 227 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.000 now do I think we're gonna get the truth? I 228 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:19.679 just know. I don't know how this is going to 229 00:12:19.720 --> 00:12:22.399 manifest itself. I just think it's the death of the administration. 230 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:26.480 But we're we're in this unique time where we have 231 00:12:27.000 --> 00:12:30.480 multiple different forms of bureaucracy that seemed to be working 232 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:34.639 for truth. We were talking beforehand kind of. So actually, 233 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:36.320 the question I'm kind of driving out here is I'd 234 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.519 like to know you kind of I guess if you 235 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:41.720 want to give some comments, but also what legal avenues 236 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:44.720 are there right now, because I think I know I 237 00:12:44.799 --> 00:12:47.639 run a daily show and I cover this stuff regularly, 238 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:50.639 particularly Epstein. Even even I I have a vague I 239 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:55.320 know we have the we have the the discharge petition, 240 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:57.840 which was I mean, I don't even understand the specifics exactly. 241 00:12:57.840 --> 00:12:59.440 I know, then that goes to Congress, and then that 242 00:12:59.480 --> 00:13:02.360 goes to the Senate, and then I forget exactly. We 243 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:05.600 also have the subpoenas or the Democrat Oversight Committee. I 244 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.840 don't know if there's maybe a more under a more 245 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:11.799 manageable way for normal people to understand what the hell 246 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:15.519 is even going on with all the different I don't 247 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:20.080 know gaggle of things going on here. Uh because and 248 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.200 I guess I'll leave it at that. I've thrown enough 249 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.360 at you already, but just I was thinking about that, 250 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:26.240 just kind of to make the more understandable for people. 251 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:31.919 Yeah, some of the things that you said with Ebstein, 252 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.120 we already know the truth. I mean, we really do. 253 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:43.919 We know that Ebstein was involved with intelligence, we know 254 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:48.519 that there was blackmail involved, We know who many of 255 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.519 the pimps are, and the New York Times did an 256 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:57.639 article on six of the pimps. Glenn Maxwell was one pimp, 257 00:13:57.799 --> 00:13:59.679 Sarah Kellen was another, Leslie. 258 00:13:59.399 --> 00:14:00.200 Groff was an other. 259 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:04.480 Adriana Ross was another Native Marson Cova, and Haley Robson. 260 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:09.080 Haley Robson was primarily used to get girls from the 261 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:12.679 high school and middle school that she attended, but the 262 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:17.000 other five Maxwell, Kellen, Graff, Ross, and Marsenkova, they were 263 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:22.159 fully cognizant of that entire network, and if we really 264 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:29.519 wanted justice, we could go after them and the child 265 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:33.879 trafficking and the federal system is a heavy sentence and 266 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.000 it's fifteen to life, and we could slap them with 267 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:40.480 multiple kinds of child trafficking, unlike we did with Glenn. 268 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.000 We only slapped her with one and then they would 269 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.320 roll on the perps. And there are hundreds of Epstein 270 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:51.080 victims that would be willing to testify if they felt safe. 271 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:55.320 So we already know the truth, and we already know 272 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:59.759 who a bunch of the perpetrators are, and they've been 273 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.080 picked around quite a bit in the media. People having 274 00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:06.279 the media. People in the media have an outright said 275 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:11.559 they're perpetrators. But we know who they are, so that 276 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:15.840 we know the truth of Ebstein. At this point, we 277 00:15:15.960 --> 00:15:21.559 know the truth with the Trump administration, Epstein is like 278 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:26.159 a Pandora's box and Greek mythology, Pandora was the first 279 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:29.480 woman and she was given a box and she was 280 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:34.200 told not to open it because a curse that would 281 00:15:34.440 --> 00:15:36.759 curse humanity would come out. 282 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:37.320 Of the box. 283 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:44.080 So the Bush administration, the Bush to administration constructed the box. 284 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:51.799 They were the first ones that covered up Ebstein, then Obama, Biden, 285 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.559 and then the first Trump administration. 286 00:15:55.840 --> 00:15:57.960 They didn't touch the box. 287 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:04.039 But I believe that Trump thought that he could open 288 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:07.080 up the box a little bit and then slam it shut. 289 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:12.279 But once you open the box, you let the curse out. 290 00:16:12.759 --> 00:16:19.399 And Trump has let the curse out. And I fully 291 00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:25.480 believe that Pam Bondi in February when she said we're 292 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:29.039 going to release the Ebstein files, she gave us a 293 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:33.440 nothing sandwich. And actually the black book that we published 294 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:38.440 with Gacker, it we redacted the names of the adults 295 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.639 and then under massage is kind of a euphemism for 296 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.080 underage girls or number of them were underage, and there's 297 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:49.720 one hundred and seventy five and many of them were 298 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:59.399 underage girls. So we with all that information, it's come out. 299 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.839 But the black book that. 300 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:09.039 Pam Bondi released at everybody's name redacted. 301 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:11.799 And everybody's number redacted. 302 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:17.279 I released more incriminating information on Jeffrey Epstein's network in 303 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:21.039 twenty fifteen than Pam Bondi did in twenty twenty five 304 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:26.960 and I truly think that the Trump administration thought that 305 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:31.160 it could give us something that was highly diluted and 306 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:33.240 think that we would settle for that. 307 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.319 I mean, I don't think the Trump. 308 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:40.960 Administration really understood that people really want to get to 309 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:42.880 the bottom of this story. And actually a lot of 310 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.599 Americans are very cognizant of many of the many of 311 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:50.400 the facets of this story. So and then Pam Bondi 312 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:55.359 said that she had been bamboozled by the FBI Field Office, 313 00:17:55.400 --> 00:18:00.319 that they'd given her incorrect information, and she blamed it 314 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:04.079 all on them, And then she said that, and then 315 00:18:04.119 --> 00:18:07.839 she said that she had a truckload of evidence and 316 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:11.839 that they were betting it at the FBI and the 317 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.960 Department of Justice, and she said, only matters of national 318 00:18:16.039 --> 00:18:18.920 security will be redacted. So she keeps digging herself in 319 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:21.440 a deeper hole. Now she's got to tell us what 320 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:25.200 a bunch of child molesters have to do with matters 321 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:30.640 of national security and just the whole lie. All that 322 00:18:30.680 --> 00:18:34.200 stuff was taken from Epstein, the three hundred gigabytes or 323 00:18:34.640 --> 00:18:39.200 how many gigabytes they were taken from Epstein, And when 324 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:43.359 Epstein was arrested in twenty nineteen. I mean, the FBI 325 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.240 was saw on his safe open as as soon as 326 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:47.119 it positively could. 327 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:50.640 And according to the New York Times. 328 00:18:50.279 --> 00:18:53.279 There were hundreds, if not thousands of disks, and they 329 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:57.119 were underage girls, and according to Business Insider, there were 330 00:18:57.119 --> 00:18:57.839 hard drives. 331 00:18:58.359 --> 00:19:01.519 And Pam Bondy wants us. 332 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:06.480 To believe that the FBIID Department of Justice just started 333 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:08.839 to look at all that material. 334 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:14.359 Within the last six months. I'm willing to bet everything that. 335 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:21.759 I had that FBI and DOJ and and probably a 336 00:19:21.839 --> 00:19:25.039 number of other alphabet organizations they were looking at that 337 00:19:25.160 --> 00:19:29.279 Jeffrey Epstein material that night and then the next day, 338 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:32.160 and then the next night they probably. 339 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:36.200 Got triple overtime, so that it's a huge lie. 340 00:19:36.839 --> 00:19:40.200 And then that July sixth document came out and said 341 00:19:40.240 --> 00:19:45.519 that there was three hundred gigabytes of information that was 342 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.920 taken from Epstein's possessions and. 343 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:50.599 That there are over a thousand victims. 344 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.640 And I agree with that, But then it said that 345 00:19:54.160 --> 00:19:57.079 Jeffrey Epstein and Gallaine Maxwell acted alone. 346 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:01.079 Now and according to pan Am Bondi. 347 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:06.519 That a lot of that child abuse material had Jeffrey 348 00:20:06.640 --> 00:20:13.599 Epstein abusing children. So and now Cash Battell is testified 349 00:20:13.599 --> 00:20:16.920 before the House and the Senate, and he's saying that 350 00:20:17.240 --> 00:20:22.640 there's there's no other co conspirators. Everything is in under 351 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.319 a contradiction to what Bondi has already said, and the 352 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:30.720 administration just keeps digging itself deeper and deeper and deeper 353 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:32.160 into an abyss of lies. 354 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.960 M all right, yeah, I agree with that assessment now, 355 00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.839 and now I would would just kind of maybe I'm 356 00:20:40.880 --> 00:20:45.960 missing some things, but what specific vectors of attack bureaucratically speaking, 357 00:20:46.000 --> 00:20:49.680 are we seeing currently, because like I mentioned, we have 358 00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:53.079 I believe, the Democratic Oversight Committee, which that's well, I'm sure, 359 00:20:53.119 --> 00:20:54.519 I mean, if you want to, we can, you know, 360 00:20:54.559 --> 00:20:57.559 break off into that the recent news there, but we 361 00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:01.039 have obviously the discharge and then some of the subpoenas 362 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:05.160 through which we got the birthday book information recently, which 363 00:21:05.279 --> 00:21:09.839 was kind of a huge revelation, although oddly, I know, 364 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:11.759 like talking to normal people in my life, you know, 365 00:21:11.839 --> 00:21:14.240 some normal people, they weren't even aware of it. And 366 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.079 I think it probably had a lot to do with 367 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:18.480 the fact that the Charlie Kirk thing happened within probably 368 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:20.920 forty eight hours or so, I believe, after the drop 369 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.160 of it. So I think it kind of most normal 370 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:26.279 people missed that piece of information, but for the people 371 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:28.279 looking into it, that was a pretty big deal. And 372 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:30.240 we'll probably have to carve out a moment to talk 373 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.279 about that as well. But what specific avenues do we 374 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.400 have out there? Obviously, I know you have Epstein Justice 375 00:21:35.400 --> 00:21:36.640 as well too, so if you want to take a 376 00:21:36.640 --> 00:21:38.759 moment to talk about that, that would make sense. But 377 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:41.240 so far as like what actual, you know, vectors of 378 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.519 attack are we seeing right now? And I also just 379 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:45.720 kind of what are your thoughts about them in general, 380 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:48.519 because obviously some of these things are being treated like 381 00:21:48.559 --> 00:21:50.960 they're going to be like the silver bullets, but I 382 00:21:50.960 --> 00:21:54.559 don't really think any of them are, but your thoughts. 383 00:21:56.319 --> 00:22:00.599 Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the House. Trucuently, he's 384 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:03.119 the third most powerful man in the country. A former 385 00:22:03.200 --> 00:22:07.359 Speaker of the House. Actually, the longest reigning Republican Speaker 386 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:09.240 of the House was is Dennis Haster, who was a 387 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:13.920 pedophile and actually had to do some time because someone 388 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:18.599 was extorting him because Dennis Haster did preyed on him 389 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:21.440 when Dennis Haster was a high school teacher. 390 00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.720 But we've got another freak. 391 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:30.640 As the Speaker of the house and he When I 392 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:33.759 found this out, I thought it was kind of mind boggling. 393 00:22:34.319 --> 00:22:38.119 He has an app on his phone called Covenan I, 394 00:22:38.319 --> 00:22:41.480 and his seventeen year old son has an app on 395 00:22:41.559 --> 00:22:45.559 his phone called Covenan and I, and that gives them 396 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:50.119 the ability to monitor each other's consumption of pornography. 397 00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:54.640 So you know for sure it goes both ways, because 398 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:56.720 I've heard you speak about this elsewhere, because it's so 399 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.160 For one, it's gross. Either way it's going Frankly, I mean, 400 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:01.640 I'm a father and I don't know. I just wouldn't 401 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:03.720