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<v Speaker 1>O d of des are.

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<v Speaker 2>That of desire.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult

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<v Speaker 3>of Conspiracy. And my name's Jonathan. I'm Jacob and today Jacob.

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<v Speaker 3>Let the COLT members know what the fuck we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about today, sir.

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<v Speaker 4>So there, I was doing my little historical deep dives,

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<v Speaker 4>as I am one to do from time to time,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know, I was looking into some Vietnam

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<v Speaker 4>war stuff. I do enjoy looking at that, not just

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<v Speaker 4>for the warfare of it all, but also the political

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<v Speaker 4>time frame, the era in American history and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of the things that we did as and we, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean the Royal we as far as what we did

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<v Speaker 4>in Southeast Asia. And I find it to be a

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<v Speaker 4>very interesting conversation because like, for instance, Vietnam is one

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<v Speaker 4>of the only countries where we have been to war

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<v Speaker 4>or at war with them at one point in time

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<v Speaker 4>in the last two hundred years, where pretty much as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as the war ended, give them a ten year

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<v Speaker 4>time gap, and then they got.

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<v Speaker 1>Real cool with us, like real cool.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a lot of Vietnam era veterans that will

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<v Speaker 4>go to Vietnam today and the Vietnamese people hold no grudge,

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<v Speaker 4>like they are not some type of way about the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that you killed so many of us. And oh,

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<v Speaker 4>look the old guy sitting in the room of their

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<v Speaker 4>missing an arm. That's because of year fifty cows. Nah,

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<v Speaker 4>they're just whatever about it right now to this day.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is that?

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I knew. I mean, granted, Vietnam, the Vietnam

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<v Speaker 4>War was about communism, really and truly. You had the

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<v Speaker 4>North Vietnamese, the NVA or the Vietcong, who wanted communism

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<v Speaker 4>to take over as the premier government type in Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 4>and you had the South Vietnamese that were very pro

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<v Speaker 4>democracy and they were very pro American and because of

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<v Speaker 4>that a war spurned up, as it did during the.

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<v Speaker 1>Cold War all of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>But after we left, and which for the record, we

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<v Speaker 4>won the Vietnam War. I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>will argue that point, but that's neither here nor there.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact of the matter is how you declare who.

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<v Speaker 4>Loses a ward, who was forced to come to the

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<v Speaker 4>table to sign a treaty that was not beneficial to them,

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<v Speaker 4>That is who lost the war.

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<v Speaker 1>Vietnam lost the war against us.

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<v Speaker 4>We left two years later, we had that whole embassy

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<v Speaker 4>situation and that's what the optics were to show the

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<v Speaker 4>world that we lost. The war didn't happen. But whatever, Kay,

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<v Speaker 4>Communism took over Vietnam for a while. They're pretty democratic

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<v Speaker 4>these days. But that's neither here nor there either. So

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<v Speaker 4>as I was looking into some stuff, I heard about

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<v Speaker 4>the Secret War, which I had heard about.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>It took place in Laos and Cambodia and some of

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<v Speaker 4>the neighboring countries to Vietnam, and I stumbled upon a

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<v Speaker 4>place called the Plane of Jars, Jonathan, have you ever

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<v Speaker 4>heard of this place?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into it?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, but secret War sounds very marvel of you, sir Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 4>So the Secret War was basically the Huchi Minh Trail.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever heard this?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>So Hou Chi Minh or Ho Chi Minh, however you

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<v Speaker 4>want to say, was the leader of the North Vietnamese Army. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>he the guy Huci Minh, right, And there was something

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<v Speaker 4>called the Huchi Minh Trail, which was a combination of

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<v Speaker 4>trails through the jungles, underground cave networks that had been

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<v Speaker 4>dug out all these things, and it was a way

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<v Speaker 4>that they would send supplies and weapons and manpower from

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<v Speaker 4>point A to point B. Basically, these dudes you would

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<v Speaker 4>see nothing in the jungle, and out of nowhere you'd

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<v Speaker 4>have like two platoon sized elements swarm you, and by

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<v Speaker 4>the time you looked up, the fighting was over and

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<v Speaker 4>they were gone. It's because they popped out of man

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<v Speaker 4>holes that are like one foot by one foot squares

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<v Speaker 4>carved out of rock, and we couldn't see them. That's

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<v Speaker 4>where tunnel rats became a thing, right, American soldiers with

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<v Speaker 4>a forty five in a light that would dive into

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<v Speaker 4>these caves and these tunnels to see what the hell

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<v Speaker 4>was down there. Right, So all of this was all

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<v Speaker 4>a part of the Huchim Introil. Now, there was a

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<v Speaker 4>section of this trail that went through Laos and Cambodia

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<v Speaker 4>because we weren't allowed to go there. The war was

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<v Speaker 4>in Vietnam. American forces couldn't go to Laos and couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>go to Cambodia because they were not in open war

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<v Speaker 4>with America. It's kind of similar to think of Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 4>right Osama bin Laden hung out in Pakistan. We couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>go there because we weren't at war with Pakistan.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so a section of this trail went through Laos

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<v Speaker 4>and this is where the plane of Jars is located.

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<v Speaker 4>But before we get into the possible connections thereof let's

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<v Speaker 4>talk plane of jars.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So this place has thousands of giant stone jars, some

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<v Speaker 4>of them way up to like eight or ten tons, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>and they are scattered around this area. No one knows

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<v Speaker 4>exactly where they came from. We're going to get into

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of archaeological conversations about who might have carved them,

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<v Speaker 4>where they came from. They were mined from a quarry

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<v Speaker 4>eight miles or kilometers rather away from this site, and

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<v Speaker 4>no one knows exactly who brought them here or for

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<v Speaker 4>what purpose. This good cult members is why I brought.

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<v Speaker 1>It to the show.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a weird situation where we are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be blending the modern day, We're gonna be blending the

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<v Speaker 4>ancient world, the unexplained folklore giants and why the US

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<v Speaker 4>dropped two hundred and sixty two million cluster bombs.

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<v Speaker 1>All over this area?

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<v Speaker 4>Could this be because they wanted to cover up the

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<v Speaker 4>ancient origins of these jars?

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<v Speaker 3>Are we going like, how do we know how far

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<v Speaker 3>these jars date back.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows for sure. There are and we're gonna read.

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<v Speaker 4>There's articles that I've brought on, there's videos that I

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<v Speaker 4>brought on. Good cult members, you're gonna want to see this, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm gonna tell you now, the best estimates for

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<v Speaker 4>the longest time were twelve hundred years ago, right, But

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<v Speaker 4>then they became two thousand years ago. Now the arguments

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<v Speaker 4>are over three thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the kicker.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of them are made from sandstone, which is relatively

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<v Speaker 4>easy to carve out. I mean, how bronze tools could

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<v Speaker 4>carve out standstone beautifully with no issue. But some of

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<v Speaker 4>these are made of granite, meaning that they were carved

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<v Speaker 4>with iron. Jonathan, they didn't have iron three thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>The iron age didn't exist three thousand years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>We're blending, We're blending a lot of different ideas and

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<v Speaker 4>perspectives on this. Get ready, everybody, today we are gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be talking about the conspiratorial origins of the Plane of Jars.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you would like to see this episode, see

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<v Speaker 4>the videos, see the article, and see these gorgeous pictures rather.

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<v Speaker 1>Than just hear about it, Jonathan tell them where.

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<v Speaker 4>we're how many episodes are we putting out right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Fourteen a week. We're almost to be fifteen. We're almost

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, come on now, where are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>And all in all, we have eleven hundred episodes collectively,

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<v Speaker 3>a little over eleven hundred collectively. With all of the

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<v Speaker 3>on the weekends, there's Strange Blue. It's just getting absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>do have access on there, you know, obviously you know

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<v Speaker 3>the Cajun Night and Meta Mysteries is also on this

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<v Speaker 3>it's one big family, and we're just trying to open

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<v Speaker 3>up third eyes across the board. So whatever you're into,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you want to get your Biblical third eye all

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<v Speaker 3>the way opened up. Then you go to Josh Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>like the Murder Mystery third eye opened up, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean. It's all really all over the damn place.

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<v Speaker 3>And especially Deplorable Janet with all the health stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>she's getting into, she has advised me to stop using

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<v Speaker 3>methylene blue. I have not used it in a few days.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to see how things go, all right, although

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<v Speaker 3>my alternative to methylene blue is energy drinks, and I

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, we'll see that being said.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, we're growing these communities in and of themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>that's my baby over there. That's just my little baby,

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<v Speaker 3>This cult of Conspiracy, that's my that's my big boy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, meta mysteries. That's my little baby, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we're all about.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And with the CA tonight, if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>the updates on that here soon cult members, I promise you,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could. I could imagine that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we say tomorrow as of time of recording, it's tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode I believe, is going to drop on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>So in your case, two days ago. Yeah, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>my point unless you're on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you're on.

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<v Speaker 4>Patreon, then you're listening to this day of and like, good,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you for joining me. But my point is there's

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<v Speaker 4>that are hot news right now. Right everybody's talking about

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<v Speaker 4>spilling the hottest of teas. So over on the Caju

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<v Speaker 4>to Night, we do talk about some geopolitics, we talk

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<v Speaker 4>the geopolitical conversation. To join into that Cajun Night, we

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck yeah, baby, we're just expanding upon the cult of conspiracy.

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<v Speaker 3>Each one of these are our individual shows are expansions

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<v Speaker 3>and almost like the evolution of the characters of Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent with you. That's agreed.

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<v Speaker 4>So all right, now let's get into the plane of jars.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go ahead and share the screen at this time, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Princess, look at these things.

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<v Speaker 4>They are massive stone containers and none of them really

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<v Speaker 4>makes sense as far as how they got there, Who

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<v Speaker 4>built them, how did they get brought here from a

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<v Speaker 4>stone quarry eight kilometers away from this location?

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<v Speaker 1>How old are they? Now?

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<v Speaker 4>I will say this before we get into it. There's

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of different theories as to what they're supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to be used for, and the going theory as of

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<v Speaker 4>this moment is something along the.

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<v Speaker 1>Lines of burial.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, there were some skeletal fragments found in one, there

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<v Speaker 4>were some charred charred remains rather found in another, some trinkets,

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<v Speaker 4>some beads, some little things like this, and okay, that

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<v Speaker 4>makes sense. But if you look at it grand scheme

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<v Speaker 4>looking at one individual, because they laid it out in

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<v Speaker 4>grid squares. There's like zone one, zone two, zone three,

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<v Speaker 4>all these zones, and that's how archaeology is done, so

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<v Speaker 4>you don't miss anything. Everything is laid out in grid

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<v Speaker 4>squares and you dig your entire square through and through,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's like this person is designated for this one

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<v Speaker 4>square and that's their whole job to make sure that

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<v Speaker 4>you're getting as many eyes on as much area as possible.

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<v Speaker 4>If you look at one of the burial then okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that makes perfect sense, and you could understand why they

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<v Speaker 4>would say that all of these were basically burial tombs.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fine, except none of them line up.

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<v Speaker 4>Every style of burial goes completely against the other type

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<v Speaker 4>that was found in this jar, which is completely different

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<v Speaker 4>from this type found in this jar. It makes no

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<v Speaker 4>sense if this was all done by the same culture

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<v Speaker 4>and in the same region, even for hundreds, if not

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<v Speaker 4>thousands of years, there would at least be some kind

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<v Speaker 1>All right, It's not like for Egyptian ummification.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, looking at an Egyptian mummy from the first and

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<v Speaker 4>the oldest mummy that we can find, to King tut

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<v Speaker 4>to Cleopatra, there's wide, wide centuries worth of gaps that

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<v Speaker 4>I just said with those three things. Okay, the mummification

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<v Speaker 4>principles and practices are the same. They kept it the same.

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<v Speaker 4>None of these are the same. It makes no sense whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>So as far as these uh, these jars go, is

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<v Speaker 3>it like are they buried into the ground like an

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<v Speaker 3>easter Island type of situation, or are they is there

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<v Speaker 3>a hole beneath them? Like how deep do they go

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<v Speaker 1>No? No, they're enclosed. They're enclosed.

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<v Speaker 4>There's absolutely a bottom of these, not like Easter Island

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<v Speaker 4>where it's like it's right there and then you dig

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<v Speaker 4>down and it's like there's more to it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, No, it's what you see is what you get.

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<v Speaker 4>You might have it like a foot below the dirt,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, like some erosion and some soil has gone

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<v Speaker 4>up the sides. Very normal for it being there upwards

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<v Speaker 4>of three thousand years kind of thing, But not to

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<v Speaker 4>not to say that there's like a whole complex underneath

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<v Speaker 4>them or something like that. There's no tunnels that connect

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<v Speaker 4>them or anything like this. They're just out here and

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<v Speaker 4>no one can give any real reason as to why,

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<v Speaker 4>although the local legends say that they were giants that

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<v Speaker 4>made them for specific reasons. We're gonna get to.

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<v Speaker 3>It all cauldrons, do I not like cauldrons.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this was allegedly giant jars that were used to

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<v Speaker 1>Hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I hope that's real.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope so too.

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<v Speaker 4>But for the amount of jars, It's like, bro, how

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<v Speaker 4>drunk did these people get There's hundreds of these things?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you're talking about giants? Bro? I mean they probably

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<v Speaker 3>can a few, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They could they could throw it down, Yeah, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 4>So from the first first video we're gonna play here

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<v Speaker 4>is from R M R U I n K. The

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<v Speaker 4>Plane of Jars Medalist Jesus Mesalithic.

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<v Speaker 3>Mystery in Laos megalithic Yeah, thank you, let's check it out.

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<v Speaker 5>Since their discovery in the nineteen thirties, the giant stone

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<v Speaker 5>jars scattered throughout central Laos have remained a prehistoric puzzle.

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<v Speaker 5>These megalithic jar sites, collectively known as the Plane of Jars,

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<v Speaker 5>cover over two thousand square kilometers and are filled with

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<v Speaker 5>thousands of enormous stone jars, some weighing up to fourteen tons.

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<v Speaker 5>Who put them there and why archaeologists are still puzzled.

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<v Speaker 5>One theory suggests that the jars were used for burials

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<v Speaker 5>or ritualistic purposes. Another legend tells of a race of

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<v Speaker 5>giants who used the jars to brew and store rice wine.

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<v Speaker 5>The jars themselves give little clue as to their origins

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<v Speaker 5>or purpose. Carved of rock and varying in shape and size,

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<v Speaker 5>they are predominantly constructed of sandstone, Brescia conglomerate, granite, and limestone.

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<v Speaker 5>After decades of speculation, a team of researchers used optically

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<v Speaker 5>stimulated luminescence to date the jars. They discovered that the

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<v Speaker 5>jars were constructed between twelve forty and six hundred sixty BC.

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<v Speaker 5>The function of the jars is still debated, with some

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<v Speaker 5>suggesting they were mortuary vessels or used to capture rainwater

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<v Speaker 5>for caravans passing through the region. Researchers have also found

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<v Speaker 5>intricately carved discs buried with the jars. These discs feature

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<v Speaker 5>geometrical images of concentric circles, human figures, and animals. Some

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<v Speaker 5>believe they may have served as burial markers. The Plane

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<v Speaker 5>of Jars in Laos remains a mysterious and enigmatic archaeological site.

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<v Speaker 5>Despite years of research, the true purpose of these giant

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<v Speaker 5>stone jars continues to elude us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no one set pattern to their placement or even

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<v Speaker 4>how they look. Some of them have a lip, some

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<v Speaker 4>of them look like they were pretty much just kind

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<v Speaker 4>of carved into some sort of a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl shape and then left.

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<v Speaker 4>Some of them are short as and they only come

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<v Speaker 4>up to maybe your knee. Some of them are eight

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<v Speaker 4>foot tall. Some of them have lids and or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>lids next to them, these discs that were next to

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<v Speaker 4>them that they believe were lids to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Some not.

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<v Speaker 4>But even still, even if that is a lid for

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<v Speaker 4>that jar, bro, what kind of manpower do you think

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna need to lift the lid to go on

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<v Speaker 4>to a fourteen ton jar.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why this is and this is the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of shit this along with the Pyramids, amongst other things

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<v Speaker 3>like we just mentioned Dester Island and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why, like I honestly truly believe that history

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<v Speaker 3>is a lie agreed upon because history has no fucking

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<v Speaker 3>answer for shit like this. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you just not know?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they were allegedly found quote unquote by found, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean like by Western scientists in the nineteen thirties. The

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<v Speaker 4>locals have known about them for thousands of years, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what you're saying. Their best estimates were twelve

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<v Speaker 4>hundred to twenty eight hundred BC. Like we're talking coming

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<v Speaker 4>up on four thousand years old, and they didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>that until recently. They the last burial that was done

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<v Speaker 4>was in twelve hundred AD in one of these jars,

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<v Speaker 4>which made them believe that maybe they were a little

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<v Speaker 4>earlier constructed than what you know, the people are thinking.

425
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<v Speaker 4>The new evidence is pointing to three thousand plus years old,

426
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<v Speaker 4>So we're talking about prehistory for this region, which is

427
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<v Speaker 4>where it goes more into the line of the legend

428
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<v Speaker 4>and lore to it.

429
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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, look at these things, all of them.

430
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<v Speaker 4>You got some that are shorter, some of them that

431
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<v Speaker 4>are way larger like this. I couldn't stand up and

432
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<v Speaker 4>like look into this like that's.

433
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<v Speaker 3>Why there was a whole like grown up standing right

434
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<v Speaker 3>next to the one of those and it was way

435
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<v Speaker 3>over him.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

437
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<v Speaker 4>Look, these are the people, I mean, I mean they're

438
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<v Speaker 4>probably right. Yeah, yeah, that's true. We're talking about Laos

439
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<v Speaker 4>or Laoshian people, so they are smaller in stature than

440
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<v Speaker 4>most like European or Westerns. But even still, these people,

441
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<v Speaker 4>as compared to these things that are way in the background. Bro,

442
00:23:10.720 --> 00:23:12.359
<v Speaker 4>like you might be able to stay on your tiptoes

443
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<v Speaker 4>and peer into that jar.

444
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, oh man, I cannot wait to hear some of

445
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<v Speaker 3>the theories about this. You ready to go?

446
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

447
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<v Speaker 4>So this is from Archaeology magazine, and this is going

448
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<v Speaker 4>to be the first article that we read talking about.

449
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Some of the finer points of this situation.

450
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<v Speaker 3>I'm following Belgian archaeology archaeologist Julie Vanderberg around Laos remote

451
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<v Speaker 3>Jeang Xuang province. Did I crush that?

452
00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I think so?

453
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<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah. We're inspecting giant ancient vessels which are scattered

454
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<v Speaker 3>through rice patties, forests, and hilltops at more than sixty

455
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<v Speaker 3>sites across what is known as the Plane of Jars.

456
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<v Speaker 3>Archaeologists think the jars were mortuary containers, perhaps two thousand

457
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<v Speaker 3>years old, but no one knows for sure their precise age,

458
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<v Speaker 3>who built them, or why they are swathed in mystery

459
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<v Speaker 3>and surrounded by unexploded bombs. Unexploded bombs.

460
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<v Speaker 4>So they're gonna get into it more off more throughout

461
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<v Speaker 4>the articles and the videos and things. But it's not

462
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<v Speaker 4>like you can even go and check these out to

463
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<v Speaker 4>this day, like you can. There's a few of them

464
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<v Speaker 4>where they have cleared the path and it's okay to

465
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<v Speaker 4>go there. Operation Barrel Roll, which we're gonna go into

466
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<v Speaker 4>more in depth. We dropped more bombs on the plane

467
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<v Speaker 4>of jars, then we dropped on the entirety of Europe,

468
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<v Speaker 4>in the entirety of World War II.

469
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<v Speaker 3>O okay, well, Jiang Kwang Province is one of the

470
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<v Speaker 3>most heavily bombed places on Earth. Between nineteen sixty four

471
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<v Speaker 3>and nineteen seventy three, the United States dumped four billion,

472
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<v Speaker 3>four billion pounds of bombs on the country and a

473
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<v Speaker 3>secret war against Pathet Lao and North Vietnamese communists. Up

474
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<v Speaker 3>to a third of them never exploded, and they litter

475
00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:02.880
<v Speaker 3>the land today. While generally s to tread upon buried UXO,

476
00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:08.720
<v Speaker 3>unexploded ordinance can detonate when an erratic fuse is inadvertently triggered.

477
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<v Speaker 3>The earth around here is dangerous to farmers plowing fields,

478
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:16.519
<v Speaker 3>children staking buffalo out to graze, and to archaeologists. The

479
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<v Speaker 3>jars are huge, up to nine feet tall and the

480
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<v Speaker 3>largest weighing fourteen tons. Most are carved of sandstone, others

481
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<v Speaker 3>of granite conglomerate or calcified coral, some around, others angular,

482
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<v Speaker 3>and few have discs that appear to be lids. Tools

483
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<v Speaker 3>and human remains found inside and around the jars suggest

484
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<v Speaker 3>their use and manufacture spans centuries. The bulk of material

485
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<v Speaker 3>dates from five hundred BC to AD eight hundred AD,

486
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<v Speaker 3>and additional carbon dates are expected this summer.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Are quick, real quick.

488
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<v Speaker 4>So the bulkan materials that they have found inside these

489
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<v Speaker 4>jars date to between five hundred BC and eight hundred AD.

490
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<v Speaker 3>That's just okay, stuff that's inside them.

491
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<v Speaker 1>That's just the stuff that's inside of them.

492
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<v Speaker 4>And the most recent studies are showing that they were

493
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<v Speaker 4>constructed twenty eight hundred BC, so we are talking about

494
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<v Speaker 4>over two thousand years before this earliest remains that we

495
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.279
<v Speaker 4>have inside of there being found. No one has a

496
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<v Speaker 4>clue where they actually came from.

497
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, what's that other place over in I can't remember

498
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<v Speaker 3>if it's England or Ireland with the bunch of all

499
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 3>the little statues, not not Easter Island, but all the

500
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 3>little Stonehenge Stonehenge, That's what I was thinking of. I've

501
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.920
<v Speaker 3>actually heard several theories that that you know, that goes

502
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<v Speaker 3>back super far and that maybe some people as time

503
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<v Speaker 3>went on, started to use them for something different as

504
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<v Speaker 3>opposed to what they were originally created for. And so

505
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<v Speaker 3>I bet you that that's what's going on here. Because

506
00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:53.400
<v Speaker 3>if you got something here that these things were, that

507
00:26:53.440 --> 00:26:56.079
<v Speaker 3>there was something possibly in these jars, you know, five

508
00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 3>hundred BC. But even but they were created damn near

509
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 3>one thousand years before that, or a little bit more than.

510
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>A thousousand years before that, dude.

511
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, So clearly somebody created it for something and somebody

512
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.200
<v Speaker 3>else started using it for something else, Right, isn't that

513
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<v Speaker 3>what it says?

514
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying to say that these were meant

515
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.759
<v Speaker 4>to be burial sites. I understand the theory behind that,

516
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 4>and at least the trail of thought that would lead

517
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:23.839
<v Speaker 4>to that conclusion. Right, you find some skeleton remains inside

518
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 4>of some but again, none of the burial practices align

519
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.359
<v Speaker 4>with each other. And I understand that, like cultures change

520
00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 4>over time, perhaps in these centuries, these people buried themselves

521
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.440
<v Speaker 4>like this, and in these centuries they buried themselves like this,

522
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:38.960
<v Speaker 4>And like, okay, I could at least understand Outlaud, where

523
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:42.480
<v Speaker 4>you're going with this, big dog. There is no way

524
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<v Speaker 4>that that was the actual intended design and function of

525
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 4>these vessels.

526
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why would you go through all that trouble just

527
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<v Speaker 3>to I mean, I get it. You know, it's pretty

528
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 3>honorable to bury somebody going through all this craziness. I

529
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 3>get it, but I.

530
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<v Speaker 4>Mean it's not like that's the normal way of burying

531
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<v Speaker 4>somebody in the country of Laos. This is in one

532
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:08.960
<v Speaker 4>select region that has these jars. Like the country has

533
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 4>been around for forever, Burma has been around for forever, Vietnam,

534
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.559
<v Speaker 4>all these places, they're neighboring to each other, like they

535
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 4>share a lot of cultural similarities. Nobody buries their dead

536
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 4>like this enshrined in a giant jar shaped tomb. That's

537
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.519
<v Speaker 4>not something that the people have done in this area.

538
00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.720
<v Speaker 4>Even like if we're gonna go ancient times here, two

539
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.240
<v Speaker 4>tribes over, they were just burying them as you would

540
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 4>bury anybody, or burning them as you would burn anybody

541
00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 4>in the You might have charred remains in a jar

542
00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:40.759
<v Speaker 4>of some type, but like an urn, not a fourteen

543
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 4>ton nine foot tall stone carved jar. This is very,

544
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 4>very This is something that has not no precedence anywhere

545
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:50.880
<v Speaker 4>else in this region.

546
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 3>That's a little extra. Yeah, so it says archaeologists are

547
00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:58.640
<v Speaker 3>certain the Plane of Jars is one of Southeast Asia's

548
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 3>most important archaeola sites, but it is one with more

549
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:08.960
<v Speaker 3>questions than answers. French archaeologist Madeline Kolani pioneered research and

550
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Jang Shuang in the nineteen thirties. She found jars with

551
00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 3>cremated human remains and a nearby cave with burned bones

552
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 3>and ash. Kilani speculated the cave was a crematorium, the

553
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 3>jars were mortuary vessels, and the fields were ancient cemeteries. Today,

554
00:29:24.640 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 3>more than two thousand jars have been identified across the province.

555
00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.359
<v Speaker 3>Two thousand of those things.

556
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.519
<v Speaker 4>Two thousand and all of them. And like you said,

557
00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 4>some of it's out of coral like from the ocean,

558
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:38.839
<v Speaker 4>some of it's from sandstone, some of it's from granite.

559
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 4>And none of them were carved in place. They were

560
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:46.599
<v Speaker 4>all carved from other areas and brought here. That it's

561
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 4>mind blowing to see and to think of why these

562
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<v Speaker 4>things happen.

563
00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

564
00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:54.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know some people they maybe you have

565
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of faith and respect in regards to

566
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 3>history up to a certain point. I feel like once

567
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<v Speaker 3>you start reaching to twenty five hundred, three thousand years ago,

568
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:08.200
<v Speaker 3>four thousand years ago, it starts to get so damn murky.

569
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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to follow.

570
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<v Speaker 4>This is and see, this is this is the part

571
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<v Speaker 4>of history that I love. I do love all of it,

572
00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 4>don't even me wrong.

573
00:30:15.119 --> 00:30:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I love the.

574
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<v Speaker 4>Written down, the archaeological history that backs the written history

575
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:21.400
<v Speaker 4>and all these things.

576
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<v Speaker 1>I do love that.

577
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 4>But this is where it goes into the legends and

578
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 4>the myths and the lore that's surrounding certain things, because

579
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 4>that's pretty much all we have to go on, especially

580
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.880
<v Speaker 4>when it's something like this in this area of the world,

581
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:40.880
<v Speaker 4>three thousand year old carved vessels that no one even

582
00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:43.799
<v Speaker 4>the local legends and Lord just say, oh yeah, giants

583
00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 4>carve those that they could drink to celebrate a victory.

584
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.759
<v Speaker 4>It's like, wait, I'm sorry, come back with that, Like

585
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.359
<v Speaker 4>you have no other story that backs this claim.

586
00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>But we're gonna get to it all.

587
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're talking about different humans, dude. You know

588
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.359
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. I'm not necessarily saying it Lantian or

589
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:02.240
<v Speaker 3>anything like that, but I'm saying, like, these these people

590
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.680
<v Speaker 3>were very different than the people of today, right, And

591
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:07.920
<v Speaker 3>so I get that, Like maybe even now you'd look

592
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 3>back and be like, all right, well, if we were

593
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.960
<v Speaker 3>those people with the technology and the understanding of you know,

594
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 3>how rocks work, and you know, you want to get

595
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:19.000
<v Speaker 3>weird with the lay lines and what grid and maybe

596
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 3>there's something along there, right, But I just don't know

597
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.799
<v Speaker 3>if you can even try to get into the mind

598
00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:27.880
<v Speaker 3>of somebody four thousand years ago, Like it's probably literally

599
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 3>night and day.

600
00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:31.880
<v Speaker 4>And again if it was sandstone, if all of them

601
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:35.400
<v Speaker 4>were sandstone, it's very interesting, it's very cool.

602
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Why did they do it, how they do it? Who

603
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:38.039
<v Speaker 1>did it? Who knows?

604
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Speaker 4>Right, But at least you could understand, bro, some of

605
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 4>these are granite and coral. You're not chipping away at

606
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:49.599
<v Speaker 4>these things with bronze. I'm sorry. It requires iron and

607
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 4>we didn't have iron three thousand years ago.

608
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<v Speaker 3>Well, it says these archaeological treasures sits on one of

609
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<v Speaker 3>the world's poorest regions. That's why Vanderberg, a UNESCO consultant

610
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:04.359
<v Speaker 3>from the Hong Kong based Archaeological Assessments, is here. She

611
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<v Speaker 3>hopes to turn the Plane of Jars into a UNESCO

612
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:11.400
<v Speaker 3>World Heritage Site. The UNESCO lab I'm sorry. The UNESCO

613
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:15.200
<v Speaker 3>LAO project to safeguard the Plane of Jars aims not

614
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:19.319
<v Speaker 3>only to protect the vessels, but to rehabilitate, rehabilitate this

615
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:24.119
<v Speaker 3>remote province by clearing bombs, restoring agricultural lands and promoting tourism.

616
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<v Speaker 3>A specialist in geoarchaeology with a decade of experience in Asia,

617
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Vanderberg has worked in Laos on six week stints for

618
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<v Speaker 3>four years now in conjunction with the Lao government and

619
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<v Speaker 3>a geographer from Bangkok. The project I just had to

620
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:40.799
<v Speaker 3>put a little oh on that one.

621
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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

622
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 3>The project includes training Laosians to recover, record, and store

623
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<v Speaker 3>archaeological material, create a precise map of the jar fields,

624
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 3>and identify key areas for preservation and tourism development. The

625
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 3>project also enlists local villagers to help with these tasks

626
00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:03.079
<v Speaker 3>and involves the British based Minds Advisory Group or MAG,

627
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>a non governmental organization hired to remove explosives from the

628
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.440
<v Speaker 3>most popular Jar sites. Some dubbed the Plane of Jars

629
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<v Speaker 3>the world's most dangerous archaeological site, and Vanderberg readily agrees.

630
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<v Speaker 3>While archaeologists occasionally encounter UXO in war torn countries and

631
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:25.480
<v Speaker 3>military testing grounds around the world, perhaps no archaeological site

632
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.880
<v Speaker 3>is as contaminated as the Plane of Jars. Two archaeologists

633
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 3>conducted limited excavations in the nineteen nineties without incident, but

634
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:36.319
<v Speaker 3>that's just luck. Vanderberg says, I've come home from surveying

635
00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 3>and thought, I'm happy to be getting into the car

636
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>and coming home.

637
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 4>So this picture you see right here, this is in

638
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:48.839
<v Speaker 4>basically the welcoming tourist attraction. This is just a handful

639
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 4>of the two hundred and sixty two million bombs that

640
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:55.680
<v Speaker 4>were dropped in the plane of jars field.

641
00:33:56.599 --> 00:34:00.519
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, Yeah, that's uh, that's quite a bit sure there.

642
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 3>So insane, man, it says. The writer of this article says,

643
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.559
<v Speaker 3>my husband Jerry, and I first visited sheng Chuang in

644
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:14.039
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety eight. Back then, the capital fon Savan was

645
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.519
<v Speaker 3>a wild West sort of town with a main street

646
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 3>of mud on again off again water and equally unreliable electricity.

647
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 3>You could count on three fingers the tourists arriving each

648
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.679
<v Speaker 3>day on three fingers.

649
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>That's wild.

650
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>We stayed at a dimly lit guesthouse with a lobby

651
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 3>full of bomb casings, mortarshells, grenades, and guns. Back then,

652
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 3>we knew uxo still polluted the ground, but we didn't

653
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:41.880
<v Speaker 3>know the jar sites still remained riddled with bombs, or

654
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 3>that UXO continued to kill villagers every week in jeng Chuang,

655
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 3>And we didn't know our guest house displayed four live bombs,

656
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 3>no worries, MAG removed them. When we arrive in fon Savan,

657
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.920
<v Speaker 3>this time, it's still a dusty cowtown, but the knights

658
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.639
<v Speaker 3>are ablaze with flure essence. Cheap restaurants and guesthouses line

659
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:05.360
<v Speaker 3>the streets, and tourists from all over the world fill them.

660
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Vanderberg drives us half an hour outside of town over

661
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:12.440
<v Speaker 3>a bone rattling road to a wooden house where MAG

662
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 3>bases its operations. There we meet Stuart Broome, a jovial

663
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 3>ex military man from Australia who heads the clearance team.

664
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 3>The staff, about two dozen strong, are celebrating. Beer is flowing,

665
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 3>music is thumping. A week ahead of schedule. They've just

666
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 3>finished clearing jar sites one, two, and three, the most

667
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>popular tourist stops, each within a forty five minute drive

668
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:39.239
<v Speaker 3>of Fonsevin. Visitors can now can safely explore those sites,

669
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 3>provided they stick within Mag's red and white concrete markers.

670
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Tourists come unaware of how dangerous jiang Zhuan is. Vanderberg

671
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 3>says the jars have attracted travelers as long as Laos has,

672
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 3>but many recent visitors never knew that they were crossing

673
00:35:56.199 --> 00:36:02.400
<v Speaker 3>contaminated land. That's sketchy. Some local guides mistakenly told their

674
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.239
<v Speaker 3>guests all was their guests, all was safe and clear,

675
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.679
<v Speaker 3>long before it was here. The ordinance problem isn't visible

676
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>as as it is in neighboring Cambodia, where land mines

677
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:18.840
<v Speaker 3>have left thousands of amputees. If UFO or if UXO blows,

678
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.599
<v Speaker 3>it'll just kill you. Brim says, no limbs lost, no

679
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 3>person left, nothing to illustrate the danger. Sket gee, dude,

680
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to turn that into a tourist town.

681
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, and that was the problem in the

682
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:36.360
<v Speaker 4>jungle warfare, in the gorilla fighting that took place. It

683
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 4>was seen as, I don't want to say, a necessary evil,

684
00:36:39.079 --> 00:36:42.119
<v Speaker 4>but for lack of better words, yeah, a necessary evil.

685
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 4>It wasn't like when we think of dropping ordinance from

686
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:48.840
<v Speaker 4>a plane, usually people will think of something akin to

687
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:51.559
<v Speaker 4>World War Two. Right, You have these big bombers that

688
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 4>would open those bay doors, and you just have a

689
00:36:54.079 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 4>string of bombs that follow after it.

690
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:57.719
<v Speaker 1>Boom boom, boom boo boom, And that was just it.

691
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:03.360
<v Speaker 4>These dudes were dropping mines and cluster bombs that won't

692
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:07.119
<v Speaker 4>explode until you step on them, right, So they did

693
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:08.760
<v Speaker 4>all of this, and like they said, it did in

694
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:13.760
<v Speaker 4>Cambodia as well, but most of Cambodia. You well, maybe

695
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 4>it depends on if you look into this region or not.

696
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:20.920
<v Speaker 4>It's a lot more documented in Cambodia because still to

697
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:24.599
<v Speaker 4>this day, people will a farmer will be, you know,

698
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.199
<v Speaker 4>plowing his new fields and he'll hit a bomb and

699
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:29.760
<v Speaker 4>he'll blow up, and like he'll lose a limb or

700
00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 4>something like that. America stopped using these pretty much after

701
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 4>the Vietnam War because that was seen as inhumane, which

702
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 4>I personally agree with. But then to drop them in

703
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:44.400
<v Speaker 4>an area like this and then not pick them up afterwards.

704
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.440
<v Speaker 4>If you're gonna use these things for warfare, I get it.

705
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:50.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm with you one hundred percent. But it's also on

706
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 4>you to clean up your mess after the fact so

707
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:57.639
<v Speaker 4>that life can continue and resume as scheduled after the

708
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 4>war is over. We pretty much say, nah, Son, we

709
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.440
<v Speaker 4>weren't even in Cambodi or a Laos, which you're talking about.

710
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:05.639
<v Speaker 4>We went back and cleaned up a lot of Vietnam.

711
00:38:06.159 --> 00:38:08.320
<v Speaker 4>We didn't do shit for Laos because that was a

712
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.639
<v Speaker 4>part of the secret war. We didn't do shit in

713
00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 4>Cambodia for the same reason. So a lot of these

714
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:16.559
<v Speaker 4>locals were just left to figure it the fuck out.

715
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh it makes sense. So it says there is no

716
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>reliable tally of UXO victims, but experts here of at

717
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:29.159
<v Speaker 3>least one a week. They admit that's probably low. Oh

718
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:29.920
<v Speaker 3>my god.

719
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.079
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, like real shit.

720
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Dude, Like you're dying, they said. They like, you're not

721
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.639
<v Speaker 3>getting limbs blown off, You're just done. And there's like,

722
00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 3>there's never gonna be a record of you ever again.

723
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:42.920
<v Speaker 4>Somewhere I've seen Essaman saying somewhere between one to five

724
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 4>a week pretty much, and it's been that way for

725
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 4>the past few decades.

726
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:50.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh man, So they admit that's probably low. Broom tells

727
00:38:50.679 --> 00:38:54.519
<v Speaker 3>us of tells us of eleven accidents the week before

728
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 3>we meet that we know of. Uh, there were four

729
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 3>two weeks before that that we know of in quotes,

730
00:39:00.800 --> 00:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>but later we learn of eight more for a total

731
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>of twelve that we know of. Is an often used

732
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.960
<v Speaker 3>qualifier here. Mag's clearance records are staggering. Since work started

733
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:12.559
<v Speaker 3>in July of two thousand and four, the team has

734
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 3>successfully removed and destroyed one hundred and twenty seven pieces

735
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 3>of UXO. Cleared six acres. Visually searched fifty five acres

736
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:23.440
<v Speaker 3>and found thirty eight and fourteen pieces of scrap metal.

737
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:27.440
<v Speaker 3>And that's just Site one. Finding explosives using a variety

738
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:31.159
<v Speaker 3>of metal detectors covering fifteen inch to seven foot swaths

739
00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 3>is a scrupulous task. Workers move back and forth up

740
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:39.039
<v Speaker 3>and down a grid of red rope lanes, detectors in hand.

741
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.400
<v Speaker 3>Each signal was marked with a red chip, and each

742
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:44.159
<v Speaker 3>chip is investigated by a technician with a shovel. They

743
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:46.599
<v Speaker 3>always dig down and toward the source, starting half a

744
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.840
<v Speaker 3>foot back. We don't dig on top, Broom explains, because

745
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 3>that could cause uxos to blow up. UXO is a

746
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:58.199
<v Speaker 3>UXO that is safe to move. Is stored until each Friday,

747
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 3>when Mag detonates the entire higher the entire week's cash.

748
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:07.000
<v Speaker 3>It's really similar archaeology and bomb disposal, they explain. When

749
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.800
<v Speaker 3>mag clears a sight, all the scrap metal is plopped

750
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.440
<v Speaker 3>into a bucket. Broom Is is first to peek at

751
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.599
<v Speaker 3>the findings, and Vanderberg's quick to follow. Both are curious

752
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:17.880
<v Speaker 3>about the bucket because its contents can tell a story

753
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:21.159
<v Speaker 3>about the site, either through bomb fragments or metal artifacts,

754
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:26.199
<v Speaker 3>brom or broom rather and I examined the bucket one morning.

755
00:40:26.360 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 3>A projectile fragment, cartridge cases, barred wire cans. I pick

756
00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:35.360
<v Speaker 3>up a piece. It's a cartridge case from a recoils rifle.

757
00:40:35.800 --> 00:40:38.760
<v Speaker 1>You said that recoil Liss rifle. Yeah, basically it's an

758
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>anti tank.

759
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.920
<v Speaker 4>It's a recoilss rifle.

760
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a cannon. It's a fucking cannon.

761
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:46.760
<v Speaker 4>I know dudes that were shooting in the carl goostaf

762
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Recoilist rifle. For the record, you're only allowed quote unquote

763
00:40:51.719 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 4>to shoot like five of those a day, like five

764
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.159
<v Speaker 4>rounds because of the concussive force in the sound.

765
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>And shit. Yeah, they're bad piece of equipment. As for show.

766
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:05.559
<v Speaker 3>So they found one, he says, uh, he ogles an

767
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.719
<v Speaker 3>aluminum bit. I think it's part of a rocket motor's.

768
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:11.519
<v Speaker 3>It was all found in the in the parking lot

769
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:15.079
<v Speaker 3>at Site three. One bright Saturday, Vanderberg leads us through

770
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.840
<v Speaker 3>side one, pointing to hundreds of jars scattered over parched

771
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.119
<v Speaker 3>grasslands and rolling hills just outside of a town. A

772
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.800
<v Speaker 3>few cow's grays through the area. Western tourists trundle downhill

773
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 3>ignoring the MAG markers. Lausen kids scramble uphill doing the same.

774
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:33.679
<v Speaker 3>It will take time for people to learn. I think

775
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:35.039
<v Speaker 3>that would be a pretty good lesson.

776
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 4>You would think so, but there's always people that are like, ah,

777
00:41:38.039 --> 00:41:40.280
<v Speaker 4>fuck it, I'll be fine. I've I've been here a

778
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 4>thousand times, I've never found one yet, and then kaboom, it'd.

779
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Be like this.

780
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're lucky until you're not, you know exactly. So

781
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:52.880
<v Speaker 3>we walk from jar to jar, each in small clusters.

782
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 3>Vanderburgh only has permission to survey on site. All our

783
00:41:56.639 --> 00:42:00.119
<v Speaker 3>excavations are connected to the MAG excavation, she explains. We

784
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.280
<v Speaker 3>don't have permission to excavate for research. She suspects the

785
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:07.039
<v Speaker 3>ground below our feet is rife with archaeological information, perhaps tools,

786
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:11.440
<v Speaker 3>burial urns, bones, or charcoal that could more precisely pin

787
00:42:11.519 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 3>a date or offer conclusions on the historical background of

788
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 3>the site. But Vanderbergh is here solely to help prepare

789
00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 3>the sites for nomination for World Heritage status. Taking inventory,

790
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:25.159
<v Speaker 3>mapping jars, and creating database. Working with MAG provided a

791
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:28.159
<v Speaker 3>bonus the chance to see below the surface, so while

792
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:31.719
<v Speaker 3>they dig, we collect the information. She says. In fact,

793
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.800
<v Speaker 3>the jars have not been studied much archaeologically. Laos is

794
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:41.920
<v Speaker 3>almost terra incognita, writes THONKSA, fuck that last name, Yeah,

795
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:47.639
<v Speaker 3>I try that savant COMMANDI the countries. That was pretty close.

796
00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 3>The country's only certified archaeologists and one of few to

797
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 3>have excavated the jars. He, like Vanderberg, relies heavily on Kolani,

798
00:42:56.000 --> 00:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>who documented her findings in two massive volumes titled The

799
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Megalith of Upper Laos. Seventy years later, there remained the

800
00:43:03.119 --> 00:43:06.039
<v Speaker 3>primary source on the jars. The plane of Jars seems

801
00:43:06.079 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 3>to coincide with the Karat Plateau in Thailand and the

802
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:14.119
<v Speaker 3>North Kartshar Kotcher Hills of India, where jar burials have

803
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.400
<v Speaker 3>also been found. These were transformative times some two thousand

804
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:22.519
<v Speaker 3>years ago, of agricultural advancement, metal manufacturing, religious expansion, widening

805
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Asian trade routes, and the societal precursors to urbanization. Kalani

806
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 3>speculated the plane of jars lay at an important intersection

807
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.360
<v Speaker 3>of trade routes that stretch perhaps from India to Vietnam.

808
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 3>She found beads and bronze and iron tools the cave

809
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.760
<v Speaker 3>she discovered on site one has blackened walls and two

810
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:44.400
<v Speaker 3>chimney openings that signaled to her that bodies have been

811
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:49.280
<v Speaker 3>cremated here before placement inside the jars. Japanese archaeologists I.

812
00:43:49.639 --> 00:43:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Jai E. G. Nita excavated some of the jars in

813
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.280
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four and Thongs have followed a couple of

814
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 3>years later. Both found burial pits containing human bones among

815
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:01.840
<v Speaker 3>the j and both concluded the sites were used for

816
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 3>secondary burials. Vanderberg wonders about the archaeological discoveries over time.

817
00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Kolani found burned bones, Tonsa and Nita found unburned. Did

818
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.480
<v Speaker 3>they stem from different periods where they half hearted cremations.

819
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 3>It seems the deceased were either buried or put in

820
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 3>a stone jar for defleshing. Then the bones were either

821
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.679
<v Speaker 3>cremated or placed directly into an urned and buried. But

822
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.920
<v Speaker 3>questions nag Her Nita found an urn with human bones

823
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 3>and teeth beneath a jar at Site one. It looked

824
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.880
<v Speaker 3>like it looked to him like tenth century pottery from

825
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:41.760
<v Speaker 3>the Kemer Empire, and he concluded that the stone jar

826
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.679
<v Speaker 3>directly above this urn could be no older than that.

827
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 3>If so, that would make the jar a thousand years

828
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.320
<v Speaker 3>younger than previously thought. VanderBurg doesn't dispute this date, but

829
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:54.599
<v Speaker 3>thinks the jar sites were occupied and used over many centuries. Nito,

830
00:44:54.760 --> 00:44:57.719
<v Speaker 3>who returned to Japan, has sent his reports to Vanderberg,

831
00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:59.960
<v Speaker 3>but she has not been able to reach him since.

832
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:03.119
<v Speaker 3>She has spoken with Doanxa several times, but he now

833
00:45:03.159 --> 00:45:05.480
<v Speaker 3>studies in Australia and their work at the jars has

834
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:09.280
<v Speaker 3>yet to coincide. He declined to be interviewed for this article. Furthermore,

835
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.320
<v Speaker 3>many of Kolone's artifacts have disappeared from Laus over the years,

836
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:14.960
<v Speaker 3>so Vanderberg plugs along with what she has.

837
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>She artifacts have disappeared over the years.

838
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Ah, that's probably pretty common, I would imagine.

839
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 4>Maybe you would think, if this is going to be

840
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.880
<v Speaker 4>a UNESCO World Heritage Site, that they would want to

841
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.960
<v Speaker 4>keep all the artifacts very close to where they were discovered.

842
00:45:31.280 --> 00:45:33.199
<v Speaker 4>I don't know that for a fact, but that makes

843
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 4>sense to me, especially if this is supposed to be

844
00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:37.760
<v Speaker 4>a burial site.

845
00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Allegedly that would be desecration of graves.

846
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:44.840
<v Speaker 3>But well, again, the same can be said for Egypt

847
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 3>with the Pyramids. There's a lot of shit that's just

848
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:49.639
<v Speaker 3>like literally scattered all over the place, Like people go

849
00:45:49.679 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 3>down there and visit and they're like, it's so sad

850
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.960
<v Speaker 3>that this place is just not being kept up. Like

851
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.480
<v Speaker 3>you'll find like certain bricks that maybe were some they

852
00:45:57.480 --> 00:45:59.440
<v Speaker 3>were part of something important, but here they are just

853
00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.480
<v Speaker 3>scattered at alongside the road. Or you know, whatever happened

854
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:04.480
<v Speaker 3>to the gold tops of the pyramids and you know

855
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 3>that kind of shit to where maybe it was desecrated,

856
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.320
<v Speaker 3>maybe it was used for other purposes, or maybe people

857
00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.159
<v Speaker 3>just want to steal things to sell it online or something.

858
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, maybe or maybe the artifacts had been

859
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:18.559
<v Speaker 4>taken on purpose, because it's more of a cover up

860
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:19.440
<v Speaker 4>type of situation.

861
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

862
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 4>That's probably the most I think there's multiple things happening

863
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:23.360
<v Speaker 4>at the same time here.

864
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that's probably the most likely. She questions villagers,

865
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:31.039
<v Speaker 3>hoping that they'll know something about the jars, but they

866
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:33.400
<v Speaker 3>always return to the same legend of the ancient king

867
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.400
<v Speaker 3>named kun Chung. I think I.

868
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.280
<v Speaker 4>Don't know how to pronounce it either, but yeah, that's

869
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 4>that's the gap.

870
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.039
<v Speaker 3>An epic battle against an evil enemy and a grand

871
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 3>victory celebrated with copious quantities of alcohol. Some fifteen hundred

872
00:46:47.039 --> 00:46:51.280
<v Speaker 3>years ago, the jars they say, stored tons of loo lao,

873
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:54.440
<v Speaker 3>a hammering rice whiskey still enjoyed today.

874
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:59.000
<v Speaker 4>Lou lao, Yeah, loo lao, which is it's like there,

875
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:03.159
<v Speaker 4>it's their drink of choice, right, So like, okay, dope,

876
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:06.280
<v Speaker 4>I get it, But dude, to say you got two

877
00:47:06.320 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 4>thousand jars that are massive, like the amount of gallons

878
00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:14.039
<v Speaker 4>per per capita of one of these jars, of how

879
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:15.480
<v Speaker 4>much whiskey they could hold, I.

880
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 3>Mean, how shitfaced were you trying to get? Bro?

881
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Bro what?

882
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean it.

883
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:23.840
<v Speaker 4>Hundred years ago, even though the jars date back over

884
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 4>three thousand years ago.

885
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:27.960
<v Speaker 3>But it did say that there could have been some

886
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.239
<v Speaker 3>kind this could have been like some kind of place

887
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 3>that people would meet up for trade routes. So maybe

888
00:47:33.599 --> 00:47:36.320
<v Speaker 3>it was if it was the alcohol thing, not suggesting

889
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.519
<v Speaker 3>that it was, but if it was, it would suggest

890
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.280
<v Speaker 3>that maybe they were trading their whatever they were cooking

891
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:43.000
<v Speaker 3>up in these jars to other countries.

892
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.400
<v Speaker 4>I could see that, Like if this was a storage

893
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.320
<v Speaker 4>vessel of some type for some sort of good that

894
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:51.519
<v Speaker 4>you are trading, I get this as well.

895
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 1>But then the way they also brought up.

896
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 4>The Indian jars and the Vietnam thing, they're showing that

897
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:01.880
<v Speaker 4>this is like this crazy cross section of trade routes. Yes,

898
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:06.280
<v Speaker 4>but not necessarily Like when we think of trade routes,

899
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 4>you also think of like the East India Trading Company, right,

900
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 4>and you think of the Opium Wars. There was a

901
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:16.599
<v Speaker 4>direct connection between Chinese grown opium and then Laos and

902
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.719
<v Speaker 4>and Burma and all these places that were growing the

903
00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 4>good shit and it would go into India through the

904
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.199
<v Speaker 4>northeast and then it would make its way to Europe

905
00:48:25.239 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 4>that way. It's not like this was a hotbed for

906
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.400
<v Speaker 4>that type of trade. I mean, yeah, you might have

907
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.440
<v Speaker 4>a passer by that would be a part of that conversation.

908
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:38.960
<v Speaker 1>But also that was not three thousand years ago, so.

909
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:41.639
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't like Ukraine being the bread basket of bread

910
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:43.519
<v Speaker 3>basket of Europe type of situation.

911
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:45.840
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, for the Opium Wars, there was only

912
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:48.079
<v Speaker 4>one spot on Earth that they knew for sure it grew.

913
00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 4>It was before they knew how to really cultivate poppy

914
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.679
<v Speaker 4>around the world in other places. But yes, to that point,

915
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 4>it's not like this was the bread basket of Southeast

916
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 4>Asia by any stretch of the imagination.

917
00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, they kind of look like bread baskets, giant

918
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:07.360
<v Speaker 3>bread baskets. You know she it, says. Vandenburgh doesn't discount

919
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.599
<v Speaker 3>this theory. Like any good Belgian, she likes her beer.

920
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 3>When people die in Belgium, it always involves lots of drinking,

921
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 3>she says, So I can understand lots and lots of

922
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:19.159
<v Speaker 3>loudlow on a gravesite, though she doubts the jars where

923
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.400
<v Speaker 3>ferm enters. As we continue touring Site one, she points

924
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 3>toward a zigzag of a zigzag of war era trenches,

925
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.519
<v Speaker 3>to the bottoms of bomb craters where villagers dig for

926
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 3>scrap metal, to a cavity in the hillside once used

927
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:35.880
<v Speaker 3>as a tank position. She points to broken jars, a

928
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 3>cause of consternation. They've been bombed and looted. Cows rub them,

929
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.079
<v Speaker 3>tourists climb them, trees straddle them. Villagers fashion the jars

930
00:49:44.119 --> 00:49:49.159
<v Speaker 3>into water troughs or knife sharpeners. Between the war, cattle,

931
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 3>people and trees were losing a lot, she says. The

932
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.800
<v Speaker 3>weaker the jars get, the quicker they topple. So she

933
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:57.320
<v Speaker 3>has a few plans a bamboo fence.

934
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Wanting to show this real quick.

935
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 4>These small Buddhists statues were found inside of a cracked

936
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:05.440
<v Speaker 4>jar at Site three, so we can at least see

937
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:09.920
<v Speaker 4>some very ancient Buddhist remnants in this area.

938
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 3>That's pretty cool if they were able to, Like I mean,

939
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.079
<v Speaker 3>I know that I would imagine that people back then

940
00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:19.320
<v Speaker 3>were pretty good at like carving stone or carving wood

941
00:50:19.559 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 3>or whatever. But those are those look pretty cool to

942
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 3>be a couple thousand years old.

943
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:26.559
<v Speaker 1>The people in this area are very good craftsmen.

944
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:29.199
<v Speaker 4>I will give the credit where it is due, for sure,

945
00:50:29.320 --> 00:50:33.159
<v Speaker 4>but like that's my point as far as like an archaeological.

946
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Dig site goes. It's this.

947
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:40.320
<v Speaker 4>The jars themselves predate Buddhism, but they have Buddhist statues

948
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:43.559
<v Speaker 4>inside of a jar. This is why I'm saying none

949
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:47.159
<v Speaker 4>of the going narrative on these things makes sense.

950
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Overall.

951
00:50:48.360 --> 00:50:50.119
<v Speaker 4>You could understand at least a little bit of why

952
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.719
<v Speaker 4>somebody they would use this as a burial site, they

953
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.000
<v Speaker 4>would use it as a crematorium, they would use it

954
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 4>as a water vessel today or like, Okay, I could

955
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.559
<v Speaker 4>understand why that would happen, but that does doesn't explain

956
00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:03.320
<v Speaker 4>the entire story, and unfortunately none of it does.

957
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:06.360
<v Speaker 3>So she does have a few plans for preservation a

958
00:51:06.400 --> 00:51:08.599
<v Speaker 3>bamboo fence will enclose some of the jars to deter

959
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.960
<v Speaker 3>the cows, but she doesn't want an overly restrictive situation.

960
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.679
<v Speaker 3>After all, part of the charm is that people can

961
00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:17.320
<v Speaker 3>walk freely among the jars, but the cows must go

962
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:19.960
<v Speaker 3>and some of the trees, and so must some of

963
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:22.519
<v Speaker 3>the trees. People come up here in picnic, she says,

964
00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:25.760
<v Speaker 3>it's just not acceptable. We don't want people to We

965
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:27.840
<v Speaker 3>don't want people to stay on site. We just want

966
00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 3>them to visit. In fact, Vandenburg wants more visitors. About

967
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:34.480
<v Speaker 3>nine thousand traveled to Site one last year from all

968
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.599
<v Speaker 3>over the world, but only a third of those reached

969
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:40.519
<v Speaker 3>Site two, and fewer yet three, which lies farther outside town.

970
00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 3>Vandenburg hopes tourism can spur the local agrarian economy, which

971
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 3>affords most people less than a dollar each day. Site

972
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.800
<v Speaker 3>one is run by the government, but at the other sites,

973
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:56.840
<v Speaker 3>surrounding villages get half of the seven thousand KIP, which

974
00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:01.639
<v Speaker 3>is seventy cent entrance fees. Vandenburg hopes new jars new

975
00:52:01.719 --> 00:52:04.079
<v Speaker 3>jar sites well up and soon, though they're not safe,

976
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.280
<v Speaker 3>of course, we just want we want more torres. You know,

977
00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.599
<v Speaker 3>we got to set off those bombs. Yeah, so they

978
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:14.440
<v Speaker 3>haven't been cleared of Uxou. Funding for Mag's role in

979
00:52:14.480 --> 00:52:17.440
<v Speaker 3>the project ended with clearance for Sites one, two and three.

980
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.519
<v Speaker 3>Van It's almost like a Rick and Morty type situation.

981
00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:23.639
<v Speaker 3>How Rick always sends Mortian to test, like and taste

982
00:52:23.679 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 3>something first, or test something first.

983
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:28.639
<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, basically guinea pigs basically.

984
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:31.559
<v Speaker 4>But that's the problem, right, nobody knows for sure where

985
00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:34.199
<v Speaker 4>the bombs are. You can mind sweep and you could

986
00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.519
<v Speaker 4>do all these things, but I mean, you're still gonna miss.

987
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Stuff, and it's it's horrible. But that's the thing.

988
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 4>Sites one, two, and three that is not the entirety

989
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:46.320
<v Speaker 4>of the two thousand jars. This is just them starting

990
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:49.679
<v Speaker 4>the process. And that's only two thousand jars they have

991
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:52.280
<v Speaker 4>found thus far. Who knows if you were to do

992
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.440
<v Speaker 4>like some sort of uh what's it called, like a

993
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 4>light oar scam or whatever, it's the ground penetrating how

994
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.440
<v Speaker 4>many of these jars are actually buried of foot or

995
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.079
<v Speaker 4>two beneath the surface. But we can't dig them to

996
00:53:03.360 --> 00:53:05.800
<v Speaker 4>or we can't dig the area to find them because

997
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:06.920
<v Speaker 4>we don't want to blow up.

998
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:10.039
<v Speaker 1>Who knows how many jars there are in totality.

999
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's pretty interesting, so Vandenberg is. Vandenberg's is

1000
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.519
<v Speaker 3>a shoe string operation, evident as soon as we enter

1001
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.599
<v Speaker 3>her office. It sits on the second floor of a

1002
00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:27.800
<v Speaker 3>wooden building, a rustic work room with back half stocked

1003
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:30.840
<v Speaker 3>with shelves and metal trunks. Her face brightens as she

1004
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:34.880
<v Speaker 3>reveals her treasures, collected from various sites, packed in plastic

1005
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 3>bags and acid free paper, pottery, shirt shirts, a stone ads,

1006
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:43.880
<v Speaker 3>a bugle which is presumably French or Chinese left in

1007
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.159
<v Speaker 3>war era trench, a small buddha, six metal knives and

1008
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 3>tools made of flaky white stone. Then she beckons to

1009
00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:55.199
<v Speaker 3>the back, smiling, saying, our pride and joy There Wrapped

1010
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:58.719
<v Speaker 3>gingerly in a spandages and foam packed in wooden crates

1011
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.519
<v Speaker 3>are two urns found on found in a site one

1012
00:54:02.599 --> 00:54:05.679
<v Speaker 3>trench during Uxo clearance. They're about two feet tall, brown

1013
00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:08.000
<v Speaker 3>and coated in resin, and they look like bombs, which

1014
00:54:08.039 --> 00:54:11.199
<v Speaker 3>is what Vandenburg was told when she took one to

1015
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.000
<v Speaker 3>the hospital for X rays. They also resemble the ern

1016
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Nita found with bones. Vandenberg's pots are stuffed with soil

1017
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:21.199
<v Speaker 3>too fragile to empty, but the X rays revealed a

1018
00:54:21.239 --> 00:54:25.400
<v Speaker 3>possible bone fragment inside. Somedays she'll figure out a way

1019
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:29.280
<v Speaker 3>to get to get at the contents, but she doesn't

1020
00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.880
<v Speaker 3>have the money right now. UNESCO is paying two hundred

1021
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:34.039
<v Speaker 3>and seventy five thousand dollars for the project, but that

1022
00:54:34.079 --> 00:54:37.760
<v Speaker 3>includes overhead and fundraising costs. Only about half of that

1023
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:41.079
<v Speaker 3>amount reaches Vandenburg in the field. So a few years back,

1024
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:44.119
<v Speaker 3>project members started going village to village asking do you

1025
00:54:44.159 --> 00:54:47.079
<v Speaker 3>have jars and if so, they could attract taurists and money.

1026
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:50.679
<v Speaker 3>Vandenberg still criss crosses the province, greeting villagers and sitting

1027
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 3>for hours on wooden floors and homes on stilts. She

1028
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:57.239
<v Speaker 3>is accompanied by government officials and the meetings require exhaustive

1029
00:54:57.320 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 3>explanations what the jars mean to archaeology. Tourists are interested

1030
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:05.159
<v Speaker 3>how tourism might help villagers. The jars are valuable relics,

1031
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.960
<v Speaker 3>she explains, and UNESCO hopes to protect them as as

1032
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:14.480
<v Speaker 3>World heritage, a status afforded to few. Villagers usually don't

1033
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:16.800
<v Speaker 3>think much of the jars. They're just rocks in the backyard,

1034
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:18.920
<v Speaker 3>but once they get the idea that the jars are

1035
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 3>really important, they start talking about quote unquote new jars.

1036
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:24.559
<v Speaker 3>They had always been there, but no one realized that

1037
00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:29.199
<v Speaker 3>they mattered. We attended one of those meetings in Nazetong

1038
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 3>village and hours drive from Fon Savan Shan Mooti, and

1039
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.039
<v Speaker 3>elder says, the villagers here attribute healing qualities to the jars,

1040
00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.639
<v Speaker 3>and they poured jar water over their heads of the

1041
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:44.960
<v Speaker 3>ill children. Many years ago, he says, village monks rolled

1042
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 3>a jar into the temple for use as a water basin,

1043
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:52.280
<v Speaker 3>but many people quickly quickly grew sick, so the monks

1044
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.079
<v Speaker 3>returned the jars to the original site.

1045
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, hold on real quick.

1046
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:01.079
<v Speaker 4>So depending on who you ask, some villagers pour water

1047
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 4>from the jars on six children to heal them because

1048
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 4>these jars have healing properties according to them. Then monks

1049
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.199
<v Speaker 4>bring it into a monastery and they all get sick.

1050
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying. There's no one set answer

1051
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>for any of this shit.

1052
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Very wild, I mean, and I'm this is the thing

1053
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:20.800
<v Speaker 3>about jars is too. It's like, you know, you don't

1054
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:25.639
<v Speaker 3>know what the original purpose was. Like imagine, for example, somebody,

1055
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:30.000
<v Speaker 3>uh a thousand years from now finds a fucking wigi board,

1056
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.159
<v Speaker 3>and it would say like, this is a this is

1057
00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:35.440
<v Speaker 3>a board game to contact spirits on the other side.

1058
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.159
<v Speaker 3>But they don't know that. Most of the time, evil

1059
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.639
<v Speaker 3>shit was coming through whenever you called upon it. But

1060
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:42.920
<v Speaker 3>they didn't know that. So, hey, we're just gonna play around.

1061
00:56:42.960 --> 00:56:45.679
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I can talk to my great aunt Kimberly or whatever.

1062
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Right next thing, you know, you got fucking Beel's above

1063
00:56:49.559 --> 00:56:52.519
<v Speaker 3>trying to reach his dirty hand and choke you through

1064
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:54.119
<v Speaker 3>the board or something like that. I don't know.

1065
00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:56.440
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's what happens with most people that

1066
00:56:56.480 --> 00:56:59.400
<v Speaker 4>fuck with Wuigi boards, that like don't know what they're doing.

1067
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:02.360
<v Speaker 4>I think they think it's like that and then they realize,

1068
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:04.880
<v Speaker 4>oh shit, that's not the case. It's I mean, it's

1069
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:07.239
<v Speaker 4>very similar. Who knows what these jars are actually used for.

1070
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.679
<v Speaker 4>Were these used for some sort of occult rituals. Were

1071
00:57:10.679 --> 00:57:13.480
<v Speaker 4>they actually carved by a race of giants that have

1072
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.519
<v Speaker 4>gone like just lost into the sands of history.

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00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:17.639
<v Speaker 1>We don't know.

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00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.000
<v Speaker 4>So in one sense, the jars have healing properties. On

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00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:23.199
<v Speaker 4>the other sense, they make people get sick. Now to

1076
00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:26.039
<v Speaker 4>my knowledge, themby died from drinking the water from these jars.

1077
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't negate, what the hell just happened?

1078
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.320
<v Speaker 4>But also keep that in mind because a lot of

1079
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:35.880
<v Speaker 4>people these days use them as water cisterns in the

1080
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:39.639
<v Speaker 4>field right now, So it's like, Okay, did the jars?

1081
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Are they not?

1082
00:57:40.599 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 4>They don't make people sick if they're left in their

1083
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:45.559
<v Speaker 4>correct location. When you bring them away from the plane

1084
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 4>of jars, is that when they become cursed?

1085
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:50.719
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know, I actually found just while you

1086
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 3>were talking a little bit earlier about like some of

1087
00:57:53.039 --> 00:57:56.519
<v Speaker 3>the possible theories, and some of it does involve certain

1088
00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:01.679
<v Speaker 3>lay lines and certain like like, uh, there's this one

1089
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:05.039
<v Speaker 3>thing called the Southeast Asia dragon lines. Have you ever

1090
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:08.880
<v Speaker 3>heard of that I have? That that could be involved here.

1091
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:11.880
<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna get through this first. Yeah, So it

1092
00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:14.800
<v Speaker 3>says we attend one of these meetings and NASO already

1093
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:18.000
<v Speaker 3>read that, Uh, they grew sick, and so they returned

1094
00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:20.760
<v Speaker 3>the jar to the original site. When all stories have

1095
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.079
<v Speaker 3>been told, we gather for a feast of cabbage soup,

1096
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:26.800
<v Speaker 3>boiled chicken, green papaya salad, and a tray of fried

1097
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:33.039
<v Speaker 3>enterds in congield duck blo congealed duck blood. Yeah, dude,

1098
00:58:33.079 --> 00:58:37.239
<v Speaker 3>like blood sausage, which we forego, but what comes next?

1099
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 3>No one can avoid the lao lao, round and round

1100
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:43.480
<v Speaker 3>the room. It goes several sherry glasses of fiery water

1101
00:58:43.920 --> 00:58:47.760
<v Speaker 3>or firewater, offered in an ancient tradition of hospitality and celebration.

1102
00:58:48.119 --> 00:58:51.440
<v Speaker 3>The meeting is a prelude to a long height, a

1103
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.960
<v Speaker 3>long hike to a survey site near Hamong Village called

1104
00:58:55.519 --> 00:59:00.280
<v Speaker 3>ban Faco fu Keo fuck Koh. There we go. I

1105
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:04.400
<v Speaker 3>like that word. Fuck Kio. A place with many jars

1106
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:08.039
<v Speaker 3>but little in the way of tourism development. It's a

1107
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:11.440
<v Speaker 3>half hour trudge downhill until the trail crosses a rickety

1108
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 3>bamboo bridge and makes a sharp upward turn. We see

1109
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.360
<v Speaker 3>miles of blue green mountains and a hot haze. I'm

1110
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.719
<v Speaker 3>not tired, Vanderberg pants. After another ninety minutes hiking through

1111
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:25.199
<v Speaker 3>the sweltering jungle, I'm just dead. Ban Fakio is a

1112
00:59:25.239 --> 00:59:29.320
<v Speaker 3>collection of wooden homes, most with earthen floors, thatched roofs,

1113
00:59:29.320 --> 00:59:32.920
<v Speaker 3>and cluster bomb casings for planters and feed troughs. The

1114
00:59:32.960 --> 00:59:36.480
<v Speaker 3>one room schoolhouse has a bell made from bomb scrap,

1115
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 3>and the walls are decked with postering, with posters showing

1116
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.679
<v Speaker 3>kids proper behavior around UXO. Don't shake your buffalo to

1117
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:47.239
<v Speaker 3>the ground, tie it to a tree instead. Never touch

1118
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:49.880
<v Speaker 3>you XO. Tell an adult if you'd see something suspicious.

1119
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:53.800
<v Speaker 3>Farther upheal. About another half an hour away, there are

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00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.800
<v Speaker 3>nearly four hundred jars toppled in the forest, covered in

1121
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:59.360
<v Speaker 3>mosaics of green and white lichens.

1122
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:01.599
<v Speaker 1>Lichens, lichens. I think, I don't know.

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01:00:02.119 --> 01:00:05.000
<v Speaker 3>The team quickly gets to business, stretching a tape measure

1124
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 3>from jar to jar, numbering, measuring, and photographing details. We

1125
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:11.519
<v Speaker 3>spend two days among these ancient vessels, and the team

1126
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:16.480
<v Speaker 3>works diligently amid scrub brush and trees, avoiding thoughts of UXO.

1127
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.960
<v Speaker 3>Nothing here has been cleared. It's amazing, these jars sitting

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01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:22.639
<v Speaker 3>in the woods on a windy hill. I catch Vandenberg

1129
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:25.960
<v Speaker 3>in a moment of reflection, and she offers a pensive sigh.

1130
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:30.440
<v Speaker 3>They're beautiful, aren't they? It is really the only imaginal comment.

1131
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:34.679
<v Speaker 3>The beauty of these magnificent jars is indisputiful, indisputable. Their

1132
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:37.480
<v Speaker 3>value of archaeology is certain. These things are known, but

1133
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:41.639
<v Speaker 3>for now little else about the jar is okay.

1134
01:00:41.719 --> 01:00:45.639
<v Speaker 4>So that was from this is from two thousand and

1135
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:48.760
<v Speaker 4>five that that article was published, and this video as

1136
01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:51.639
<v Speaker 4>a matter of fact, we are going to play right here.

1137
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.239
<v Speaker 4>So this is from Archaeology TV, and if I'm not mistaken,

1138
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:57.679
<v Speaker 4>this is the YouTube channel associated with the article that

1139
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.440
<v Speaker 4>we just read. And it's just gonna give another kind

1140
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:03.800
<v Speaker 4>of overview. It might reiterate some of the points we

1141
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:05.679
<v Speaker 4>already made, and some of the articles are gonna bring

1142
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:07.960
<v Speaker 4>up some of those same points as well, but we're

1143
01:01:07.960 --> 01:01:10.360
<v Speaker 4>gonna go a little bit deeper into why they're so

1144
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:13.880
<v Speaker 4>so much unexploded ordinance, some of the legends and the

1145
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:17.559
<v Speaker 4>lore surrounding these jars, possible uses, and where they may

1146
01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.760
<v Speaker 4>have actually came from. But it all ties together to

1147
01:01:21.519 --> 01:01:25.280
<v Speaker 4>why would the government? Why would the US government bomb

1148
01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:28.519
<v Speaker 4>this area so heavily? Was it, in fact, because they

1149
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:31.000
<v Speaker 4>were trying to, you know, get to the huci Min

1150
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:33.719
<v Speaker 4>trail and blow up the guys that were trying to

1151
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:36.719
<v Speaker 4>attack us? I see the string of events, it's possible,

1152
01:01:37.719 --> 01:01:41.039
<v Speaker 4>or were they trying to erase some of the ancient

1153
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:43.880
<v Speaker 4>past that would have spit in the face of what

1154
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:47.719
<v Speaker 4>we know to be history. I don't know there's enough

1155
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:49.920
<v Speaker 4>to stand a reason on either side of this conversation

1156
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:51.480
<v Speaker 4>but without further ado.

1157
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:53.559
<v Speaker 1>Here's the video from Archaeology TV.

1158
01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:58.760
<v Speaker 6>So the project's title is Unraveling the Mysteries of the

1159
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:00.719
<v Speaker 6>Plane of the Jars and it's funded by the Australian

1160
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 6>Research Council. This project is a joint project, a cooperative

1161
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:11.440
<v Speaker 6>project between the LAO Ministry of Information, Culture and Tourism,

1162
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:18.159
<v Speaker 6>the Australian National University and Monash University. So we've had

1163
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:23.519
<v Speaker 6>basically a really successful season identifying a whole range of

1164
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.039
<v Speaker 6>different kinds of mortuary practices and mortuary practices that haven't

1165
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:32.320
<v Speaker 6>been identified previously here. So it's been very very robust

1166
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:38.280
<v Speaker 6>in terms of the data that we've gathered. Today we're

1167
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.400
<v Speaker 6>at Site one, which is one of the larger sites

1168
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:43.320
<v Speaker 6>with over three hundred very large stone jars.

1169
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:45.599
<v Speaker 4>All right, so you see this is Site one, as

1170
01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:47.599
<v Speaker 4>there's all about Sites one, two and three and all

1171
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.719
<v Speaker 4>of these there's more sites. Site one has three hundred jars,

1172
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.599
<v Speaker 4>but there is as of this moment two thousand known.

1173
01:02:56.199 --> 01:02:59.280
<v Speaker 3>I wonder, who knows why is it so cleared in

1174
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 3>that area? They clear that out themselves or is it

1175
01:03:01.599 --> 01:03:02.559
<v Speaker 3>naturally like that way?

1176
01:03:03.079 --> 01:03:05.320
<v Speaker 4>So they cleared it out themselves to be able to

1177
01:03:05.400 --> 01:03:07.800
<v Speaker 4>get in and get out and do the archaeological dig

1178
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.320
<v Speaker 4>site and all these things. But understand everything in this

1179
01:03:10.400 --> 01:03:12.559
<v Speaker 4>brush has not been cleared for mines.

1180
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh all of this.

1181
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:19.400
<v Speaker 4>There's bombs everywhere, some of them right on the surface,

1182
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:21.679
<v Speaker 4>some of them an inch below the dirt that you.

1183
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Won't know about until you step on them.

1184
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:26.360
<v Speaker 4>All this cleared area has been mind swept and is

1185
01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:29.039
<v Speaker 4>like considered safe. They've done all the testing and they

1186
01:03:29.079 --> 01:03:32.519
<v Speaker 4>know they could walk freely in this area and along

1187
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:35.800
<v Speaker 4>the same thing. This trail over here. Either side of

1188
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:38.239
<v Speaker 4>this trail has not been cleared. You have to stay

1189
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:40.760
<v Speaker 4>on the walkway or else you're in danger of losing

1190
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:41.880
<v Speaker 4>a leg, if not your life.

1191
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:43.360
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, you know what.

1192
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:46.559
<v Speaker 3>Like from this view, it almost looks like little crawfish mountains.

1193
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:49.480
<v Speaker 4>You would think, so, yeah, yeah, yeah, it does look

1194
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:51.400
<v Speaker 4>like that, and then you see the people standing right

1195
01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:52.280
<v Speaker 4>next to it, and it's like.

1196
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Whoa, yeah, all right, let's keep on. So these things

1197
01:03:57.719 --> 01:03:59.559
<v Speaker 1>are quite impressive.

1198
01:03:59.760 --> 01:04:03.000
<v Speaker 6>Some are, you know, two meters tall and you can't

1199
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:08.719
<v Speaker 6>get your arms around them. We found what looks like

1200
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.119
<v Speaker 6>now a primary burial with a very large limestone slab

1201
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:17.079
<v Speaker 6>with a hole in it, and the skull positioned basically

1202
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:20.239
<v Speaker 6>looking out of the hall. Whether that was the original positioning,

1203
01:04:20.559 --> 01:04:23.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, you've got various kinds of turbation, so it's

1204
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:27.599
<v Speaker 6>possible that it wasn't originally like that, but that's how

1205
01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:28.079
<v Speaker 6>we found it.

1206
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1207
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Also keep in mind, this is a burial site next

1208
01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:35.719
<v Speaker 4>to the jars. They're not inside one of these jars

1209
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:40.400
<v Speaker 4>doing this digging right now. So that's what I'm saying.

1210
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.199
<v Speaker 4>If this was all burial, then you would see tons

1211
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.920
<v Speaker 4>of remains. You would see at least tons of DNA

1212
01:04:46.239 --> 01:04:48.400
<v Speaker 4>or something to show that these were all some sort

1213
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:51.280
<v Speaker 4>of a tomb structure, to say that this place was

1214
01:04:52.039 --> 01:04:55.519
<v Speaker 4>important right to the people of this region, and that's

1215
01:04:55.559 --> 01:04:58.239
<v Speaker 4>why they use the surrounding area as a burial site.

1216
01:04:58.320 --> 01:04:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I completely understand that.

1217
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:02.840
<v Speaker 4>But this dude was buried in a specific way with

1218
01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.639
<v Speaker 4>that hole cut through a rock that he was looking

1219
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:09.320
<v Speaker 4>through in his burial position. But he wasn't inside of

1220
01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.199
<v Speaker 4>a jar. So you see what I'm saying. None of

1221
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 4>it actually lines up and makes sense out loud.

1222
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's uh. All of this is just so

1223
01:05:19.159 --> 01:05:23.760
<v Speaker 3>fucking confusing, it is it is, let's keep going hello.

1224
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:29.119
<v Speaker 6>In Unit two, we selected that because there was another

1225
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:32.840
<v Speaker 6>interesting disc shape object on the ground, and it was

1226
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.199
<v Speaker 6>a disc that had a knob on it, and actually

1227
01:05:35.199 --> 01:05:38.360
<v Speaker 6>had knobs on both sides. So we excavated there and

1228
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:41.760
<v Speaker 6>lo and behold we found a number of jar burials

1229
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:45.239
<v Speaker 6>and also another burial that was apparently not marked except

1230
01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:48.039
<v Speaker 6>for in the pit they placed a limestone block on

1231
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:53.320
<v Speaker 6>top of the human bones. So the jars also their

1232
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:57.519
<v Speaker 6>clay jars also contain human remains. There yet to be

1233
01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:00.559
<v Speaker 6>excavated out of the jars, but that will be in

1234
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:07.199
<v Speaker 6>the future. Madeline Klani of the coll Francist Extremoial worked

1235
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:10.480
<v Speaker 6>here in the thirties and did excavate around many of

1236
01:06:10.559 --> 01:06:15.159
<v Speaker 6>the jars. Kolani's idea was more that this was the

1237
01:06:15.239 --> 01:06:20.320
<v Speaker 6>jars were not necessarily used for interment. Julie Vandenberg also

1238
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:22.559
<v Speaker 6>is of the opinion that they perhaps were used to

1239
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:25.679
<v Speaker 6>rot the flesh from the bones, and then the bones

1240
01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:30.119
<v Speaker 6>were extracted and secondary burial was used around the jars.

1241
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, another fine point to make.

1242
01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:38.000
<v Speaker 4>There is a working theory by the lady in question here,

1243
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.039
<v Speaker 4>the one we just read about in that whole article.

1244
01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:46.559
<v Speaker 4>She believes that the jars were used to deflesh the

1245
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:50.199
<v Speaker 4>bodies the corpses, if you will, and then the bones

1246
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 4>were extracted later for a secondary burial. And okay, there

1247
01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:58.320
<v Speaker 4>are certain cultures around the world that will bury bones

1248
01:06:58.360 --> 01:07:01.679
<v Speaker 4>but not the meat associated. And I understand where that

1249
01:07:01.679 --> 01:07:06.280
<v Speaker 4>thought's from, except that no culture in this area of

1250
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:09.880
<v Speaker 4>the world did anything of that type of a practice.

1251
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:14.639
<v Speaker 4>That there's no record of that being a real possible

1252
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:17.960
<v Speaker 4>candidate to what these jars were used for. She is speculating,

1253
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.679
<v Speaker 4>and at this point, really there's nothing there. No theory

1254
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:23.400
<v Speaker 4>is too crazy because there is no rhyme or reason

1255
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:26.199
<v Speaker 4>to any of this shit. But that being said, bro,

1256
01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:28.480
<v Speaker 4>no one in this region has done that. And if

1257
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:32.199
<v Speaker 4>they did, why wouldn't they use the insects that are

1258
01:07:32.280 --> 01:07:35.320
<v Speaker 4>all over the jungle to eat away at the flesh.

1259
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.119
<v Speaker 4>You've seen how they'll take like a bull's head and

1260
01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:38.960
<v Speaker 4>they'll put it in like an ant pile or something

1261
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 4>like that, and they'll slowly right and they'll.

1262
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Do it like that. Then they'll bleach the skull and

1263
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.519
<v Speaker 1>they'll do stuff with it. They would have done that.

1264
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:51.280
<v Speaker 4>Why would you enclose it in a stone jar and

1265
01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.119
<v Speaker 4>then put a lid on top of it where no

1266
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:56.840
<v Speaker 4>insects can get to it? Nothing can decompose from it.

1267
01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:00.000
<v Speaker 4>It's just gonna sit there and slowly wrought off. Yeah,

1268
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:01.760
<v Speaker 4>I would hate to be the guy that lifts the

1269
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:03.719
<v Speaker 4>lid on in that thing to take the bones out

1270
01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:06.480
<v Speaker 4>of it six months to a year after the fact.

1271
01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean what, Yeah, it's pretty strange too, Like I

1272
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:13.440
<v Speaker 3>feel like because they talk about what is it like

1273
01:08:13.519 --> 01:08:15.760
<v Speaker 3>certain jars and pots that you can go back and

1274
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:18.279
<v Speaker 3>you can find or God and stuff like that from

1275
01:08:18.399 --> 01:08:21.439
<v Speaker 3>two thousand years ago in some areas of the world, right,

1276
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:23.800
<v Speaker 3>and you'd be able to tell if these people were

1277
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:28.000
<v Speaker 3>triven on psychedelics or whatever the fuck? Right is there

1278
01:08:28.119 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 3>no remains of anything inside the jar outside of just

1279
01:08:32.039 --> 01:08:35.000
<v Speaker 3>like the physical like bones and teeth and stuff like

1280
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:37.479
<v Speaker 3>that I'm talking about, like lined up against the walls.

1281
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:38.359
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing there.

1282
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:41.520
<v Speaker 4>So there are a few of them that have like

1283
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:44.520
<v Speaker 4>charring to show that maybe there was a fire inside

1284
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:47.319
<v Speaker 4>of them and maybe somebody used it as a burn

1285
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:52.239
<v Speaker 4>pit for cremations, which okay, that's fine, but that's my point.

1286
01:08:52.319 --> 01:08:54.520
<v Speaker 4>There is only a few, and by a few, I

1287
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:57.520
<v Speaker 4>mean like under ten jars that have any kind of

1288
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:01.600
<v Speaker 4>charring at all associate with them out two thousand, So

1289
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.920
<v Speaker 4>like that's not what these jars were originally intended for.

1290
01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:07.600
<v Speaker 4>People may have used it as that at some point,

1291
01:09:07.640 --> 01:09:08.760
<v Speaker 4>but that wasn't the point.

1292
01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying.

1293
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:12.800
<v Speaker 4>None of it like out loud, this theory, Oh that

1294
01:09:12.880 --> 01:09:15.520
<v Speaker 4>totally makes sense. This theory, Oh no, No, that one

1295
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:17.880
<v Speaker 4>makes sense when you look at all of them next

1296
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:21.239
<v Speaker 4>to each other and you also align that with what

1297
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:25.399
<v Speaker 4>they have found. Archaeologically speaking, none of it actually checks out.

1298
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:30.079
<v Speaker 4>It's basically like a hodgepodge of burial practices and they're like, oh, well,

1299
01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:33.359
<v Speaker 4>this was used as vessels to hold goods for trade routes,

1300
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:36.560
<v Speaker 4>then why are their bodies inside what? That goes against

1301
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:40.800
<v Speaker 4>the whole cremation conversation and against the funeral conversation. It

1302
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:44.199
<v Speaker 4>None of it absolutely makes sense. But that's the point.

1303
01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:47.680
<v Speaker 4>Nothing about this place is like, oh so easily woven

1304
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:48.319
<v Speaker 4>into a.

1305
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Great tapestry of anything. We don't know. Bro.

1306
01:09:51.720 --> 01:09:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's just like, you know, because you can only

1307
01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:57.880
<v Speaker 3>really go on speculation, and you can say, well, maybe

1308
01:09:57.920 --> 01:09:59.640
<v Speaker 3>it's this, or maybe it makes the most sense that

1309
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.319
<v Speaker 3>it's or whatever. But I feel like a lot of

1310
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:05.720
<v Speaker 3>this extremely historical shit that goes back thousands of years

1311
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:09.720
<v Speaker 3>is almost just poetic because it keeps us like wondering

1312
01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:13.359
<v Speaker 3>about the people before, you know, like, well, were they

1313
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:16.159
<v Speaker 3>capable of? What were they into? What I mean was

1314
01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:19.520
<v Speaker 3>it were these spiritual relics where they where they work relics?

1315
01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Were they you know, burial relics or whatever. And there's

1316
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:25.680
<v Speaker 3>nobody to really know for sure exactly what they're all

1317
01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:28.319
<v Speaker 3>used for. And it keeps us kind of on our

1318
01:10:28.359 --> 01:10:30.960
<v Speaker 3>toes in a sense of like, all right, well, maybe

1319
01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:33.600
<v Speaker 3>the people way back then weren't just dumb. Maybe they

1320
01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:38.079
<v Speaker 3>weren't you know, extremely technologically, you know, electronically advanced as

1321
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:41.720
<v Speaker 3>we are today, because that's what we associate advancement with

1322
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:45.239
<v Speaker 3>is with technology, right, and usually that's with wires and

1323
01:10:45.279 --> 01:10:49.039
<v Speaker 3>the you know, motherboards and whatever else, touch screens or whatever.

1324
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:52.199
<v Speaker 3>But I mean back then, they I dude, I really

1325
01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:55.760
<v Speaker 3>believe that they had their own type of advancement back then,

1326
01:10:55.800 --> 01:10:57.960
<v Speaker 3>and maybe that's what these things were used for. There's

1327
01:10:57.960 --> 01:10:58.640
<v Speaker 3>no way of knowing.

1328
01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Well, so like iron, for instance, to say that you

1329
01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:07.159
<v Speaker 4>find evidence of metallurgy of iron working dating back to

1330
01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:11.279
<v Speaker 4>three thousand BC, that was essentially space age technology to

1331
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:14.560
<v Speaker 4>the people of three thousand BC. Iron, dude, the best

1332
01:11:14.600 --> 01:11:18.279
<v Speaker 4>they could hope for was bronze at best, which is

1333
01:11:18.319 --> 01:11:19.720
<v Speaker 4>a combination of copper and tin.

1334
01:11:20.399 --> 01:11:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, So that was crazy in of itself.

1335
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:25.920
<v Speaker 4>So to find certain types of metallurgy, like I said,

1336
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.520
<v Speaker 4>the granite that was carved out, which would show signs

1337
01:11:28.520 --> 01:11:31.319
<v Speaker 4>of iron, they didn't have that at the time when

1338
01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:33.199
<v Speaker 4>these were being carved, So like, what the hell did

1339
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:38.199
<v Speaker 4>they use? But even to your point, there's other instances,

1340
01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:40.439
<v Speaker 4>like in Egypt, for instance, where they kept a really

1341
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.119
<v Speaker 4>good written history and they kept it etched.

1342
01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:43.520
<v Speaker 1>On the walls.

1343
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:46.239
<v Speaker 4>And so when they say this happened, this happened, this happened,

1344
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:49.319
<v Speaker 4>and then we do archaeological digs and find this happened,

1345
01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:51.239
<v Speaker 4>this happened, this happened, It all lines up and it

1346
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:55.399
<v Speaker 4>just it goes together perfectly and neatly. There is no

1347
01:11:56.119 --> 01:12:00.720
<v Speaker 4>written record on anything associated with these jars. Now granted,

1348
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:03.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure somebody somewhere wrote down some things, but you're

1349
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:07.079
<v Speaker 4>in the jungle, right, Water and erosion will.

1350
01:12:06.880 --> 01:12:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Make all of these things fall apart.

1351
01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:11.760
<v Speaker 4>The Egypt is it's an isolate because it's a desert

1352
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:17.079
<v Speaker 4>and because the dry, arid environment makes for the preservation

1353
01:12:17.279 --> 01:12:18.199
<v Speaker 4>of artifacts.

1354
01:12:18.319 --> 01:12:21.439
<v Speaker 1>Right like that, it's perfect for that purpose. The jungle

1355
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:21.720
<v Speaker 1>is not.

1356
01:12:22.039 --> 01:12:25.920
<v Speaker 4>The jungle is the most inhospitable place to preserve things.

1357
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:28.319
<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's what these jars are for. Maybe it was

1358
01:12:28.399 --> 01:12:32.119
<v Speaker 4>for preservation of certain things, but something went awry, because

1359
01:12:32.359 --> 01:12:34.800
<v Speaker 4>nothing that we can find, aside from some burial remains,

1360
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:35.560
<v Speaker 4>makes any sense.

1361
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:38.439
<v Speaker 3>And like, so that's how I look at this. I'm like,

1362
01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:42.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm less concerned with how they were created,

1363
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:45.159
<v Speaker 3>and I'm more excited about what were they used for,

1364
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:47.279
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Like, that's what I want

1365
01:12:47.319 --> 01:12:50.840
<v Speaker 3>to know, because I mean, we don't know. Like, for example,

1366
01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:53.159
<v Speaker 3>if you took somebody from three thousand years ago and

1367
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:55.079
<v Speaker 3>you placed them in today, and you just gave them

1368
01:12:55.079 --> 01:12:56.960
<v Speaker 3>a cell phone and just put them in a padded

1369
01:12:57.039 --> 01:12:59.760
<v Speaker 3>room or whatever, put them in a cave, they would

1370
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:01.800
<v Speaker 3>just at it. Maybe they'd touch it and it would

1371
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:03.920
<v Speaker 3>light up or something like that. Maybe it would start

1372
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:05.600
<v Speaker 3>vibrating and probably freak them the fuck out, and they

1373
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:07.680
<v Speaker 3>would say, what kind of sorcery is going on here?

1374
01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:10.199
<v Speaker 3>And I think equally, if you put us back in

1375
01:13:10.279 --> 01:13:12.720
<v Speaker 3>this time with this kind of pottery, we wouldn't know

1376
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:14.720
<v Speaker 3>what the fuck to do with it. But those people

1377
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:17.800
<v Speaker 3>back then, they probably maybe they used it with astrology,

1378
01:13:17.880 --> 01:13:21.039
<v Speaker 3>or they used it for like some kind of frequency,

1379
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:23.319
<v Speaker 3>healing water, or you know what I'm saying. It could

1380
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 3>be anything.

1381
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:27.960
<v Speaker 4>And that's the other part, right, So to the knowledge

1382
01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:31.920
<v Speaker 4>that we have right now, these aren't like glorified sound bowls,

1383
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:34.640
<v Speaker 4>Like they don't make a noise whenever you strike them

1384
01:13:34.680 --> 01:13:36.720
<v Speaker 4>or anything like that. And the way that they are

1385
01:13:36.800 --> 01:13:40.439
<v Speaker 4>placed doesn't line up with any kind of astrology. It

1386
01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.279
<v Speaker 4>wasn't like placing certain specific spots for the stars.

1387
01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 1>They seem to be fucking strewn about now.

1388
01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:49.479
<v Speaker 3>But I almost had her. But in accordance with what

1389
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:51.880
<v Speaker 3>were you saying, though, I almost wonder that if you

1390
01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:56.600
<v Speaker 3>strike one, would you get some kind of resonant that

1391
01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:59.920
<v Speaker 3>would ring with the other pots and some kind of

1392
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.479
<v Speaker 3>almost like a tuning fork. Maybe they all match up,

1393
01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:04.479
<v Speaker 3>and you know, whenever you strike all of them at

1394
01:14:04.520 --> 01:14:06.720
<v Speaker 3>the same time, they create some kind of frequency. I

1395
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:08.880
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I'm just trying to get you know, a

1396
01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:09.800
<v Speaker 3>little wild here, But.

1397
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:12.880
<v Speaker 4>I thought of that exact same thing whenever I first

1398
01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:17.399
<v Speaker 4>found these. I'm thinking, like, all right, Southeast Asia, giant

1399
01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:23.119
<v Speaker 4>stone vessels, What are the chances that these were sound

1400
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:27.680
<v Speaker 4>bowls or something? Akin to that. I wish I would

1401
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:30.039
<v Speaker 4>have pulled up the article to sew it. But basically,

1402
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:31.680
<v Speaker 4>when you hit this thing, it sounds like you're just

1403
01:14:31.720 --> 01:14:35.800
<v Speaker 4>hitting rock. Like there's no ding, there's no sound wave energy,

1404
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.399
<v Speaker 4>there's nothing that's coming off of this. It's their car

1405
01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.760
<v Speaker 4>from coral from quartz from or not quarts, I'm sorry, coral,

1406
01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:47.319
<v Speaker 4>granite and sandstone, right, so like there's there's no real

1407
01:14:47.399 --> 01:14:48.920
<v Speaker 4>resonant frequency that comes off of them.

1408
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought the exact same thing, dude, I don't know.

1409
01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:52.079
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing.

1410
01:14:52.520 --> 01:14:55.760
<v Speaker 4>No idea or theory is too crazy about these because

1411
01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:57.560
<v Speaker 4>no one has a fucking clue.

1412
01:14:57.439 --> 01:15:00.560
<v Speaker 3>And they're not lined up in some weird astrologic like

1413
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:02.399
<v Speaker 3>type of way like the pyramids are.

1414
01:15:03.079 --> 01:15:05.479
<v Speaker 1>No, dude, they literally seem like they were thrown.

1415
01:15:05.800 --> 01:15:09.159
<v Speaker 4>Kind of the theory about the whole giants, it seems

1416
01:15:09.159 --> 01:15:12.039
<v Speaker 4>like these giants were using these like drinking cups and

1417
01:15:12.119 --> 01:15:13.960
<v Speaker 4>just kind of threw them around at the end of

1418
01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:17.119
<v Speaker 4>the party and walked away. That makes the most sense

1419
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:20.760
<v Speaker 4>as far as how random it is basically, and it's

1420
01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:22.439
<v Speaker 4>not even like if you look at the sites one, two,

1421
01:15:22.520 --> 01:15:24.600
<v Speaker 4>and three, and how do they align with this other

1422
01:15:24.640 --> 01:15:26.600
<v Speaker 4>site they found in the forest and all this when

1423
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:29.760
<v Speaker 4>you triangulate, it makes this pat no, it is.

1424
01:15:29.800 --> 01:15:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It is as random as you could fucking think.

1425
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:35.000
<v Speaker 4>Now, maybe as more research is done on these things,

1426
01:15:35.039 --> 01:15:37.159
<v Speaker 4>maybe some new information will come out that will make

1427
01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:40.279
<v Speaker 4>a lot more sense to us. But as of this moment, again,

1428
01:15:40.560 --> 01:15:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Western scientists and quote unquote experts only found these things

1429
01:15:43.880 --> 01:15:47.680
<v Speaker 4>in the nineteen thirties. They only really started digging into

1430
01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:51.079
<v Speaker 4>them in the nineteen nineties, so we don't know there's

1431
01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:54.760
<v Speaker 4>so much Again, there might be a thousand more six

1432
01:15:54.800 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 4>inches below the.

1433
01:15:55.520 --> 01:15:57.159
<v Speaker 1>Surface, we don't know well.

1434
01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:59.560
<v Speaker 3>And the thing even about the giants though, which makes

1435
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:01.600
<v Speaker 3>even that story. I mean, I know that it's just

1436
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:05.600
<v Speaker 3>a postulating theory, but like even the giants, like dude,

1437
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:08.439
<v Speaker 3>giants weren't fucking one hundred feet tall, you know what

1438
01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:10.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, at least not according to some records, like

1439
01:16:10.680 --> 01:16:13.039
<v Speaker 3>most of them have them at you know, ten twelve

1440
01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:15.840
<v Speaker 3>maybe getting a little crazy at thirteen feet tall. And

1441
01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how many pounds, but you think about

1442
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:19.640
<v Speaker 3>the size of these fucking things. They said that they

1443
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:21.920
<v Speaker 3>weigh up to fourteen tons.

1444
01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:24.840
<v Speaker 4>That's twenty eight thousand pounds, though there's no twelve foot

1445
01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:26.800
<v Speaker 4>tall human that's going to lift that up?

1446
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:29.560
<v Speaker 1>No, No, like.

1447
01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:31.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't care if you know, we got a David

1448
01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:34.479
<v Speaker 3>and Goliath situation. This is too big for Goliath.

1449
01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Agreed. You see what I'm saying.

1450
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:40.199
<v Speaker 4>Bro It none of it checks out out loud like

1451
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:43.319
<v Speaker 4>a theory being proposed. You could possibly put the piece

1452
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.319
<v Speaker 4>together in your head to say, oh, sure, maybe that

1453
01:16:45.439 --> 01:16:47.840
<v Speaker 4>was the case, maybe this maybe, and then when you

1454
01:16:47.880 --> 01:16:50.520
<v Speaker 4>look at that lined up next to everything else, it's no,

1455
01:16:50.680 --> 01:16:54.119
<v Speaker 4>that couldn't be because of xyz. What about theory B?

1456
01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:58.439
<v Speaker 4>Well that can't be because of xyz? What about theory C? Well, no,

1457
01:16:58.520 --> 01:17:00.279
<v Speaker 4>because xyz. You see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild brinkle. All right, let's get back to the video.

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<v Speaker 6>And of course there's also local legends about these being

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01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:15.119
<v Speaker 6>drinking cups for giants or you know, former Lao kings

1461
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:20.399
<v Speaker 6>using them to make the local liquor Lao Cow.

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01:17:19.880 --> 01:17:24.359
<v Speaker 4>The bomb Okay, So they're going to get into the

1463
01:17:24.439 --> 01:17:27.600
<v Speaker 4>bombings that took place in the quote unquote Secret War

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01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:31.039
<v Speaker 4>with Operation Barrel Roll at this time. Some of this

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01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:34.079
<v Speaker 4>is actual footage from the events that took place.

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01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:35.319
<v Speaker 1>This is wild bro.

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01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:42.000
<v Speaker 6>Bombing of Laos in the nineteen seventies is a massive tragedy.

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01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:45.039
<v Speaker 6>It's hard to even comprehend the scale of the of

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01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:48.840
<v Speaker 6>the destruction that was wrought here. And unfortunately, some of

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01:17:48.880 --> 01:17:53.439
<v Speaker 6>the targets, like this site, Site one, was heavily impacted

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01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:58.039
<v Speaker 6>by bombing. So there's there was cluster bombs and very

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01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:03.359
<v Speaker 6>large of two hundred pound bombs dropped on this site,

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01:18:05.840 --> 01:18:08.359
<v Speaker 6>and of course the there's clear impact here. You can

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01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:10.119
<v Speaker 6>still see the bomb craters in the ground.

1475
01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Bro.

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01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:15.640
<v Speaker 4>This is around them doing the archaeological site. This is

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01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:20.760
<v Speaker 4>a bomb crater from one of the bombs that were dropped. Okay,

1478
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:23.720
<v Speaker 4>so you gotta understand, it's not like it was over

1479
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:26.800
<v Speaker 4>in this area. But they left the clay pots alone.

1480
01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:29.920
<v Speaker 4>And that's the claypots, I'm sorry, the stone jars alone.

1481
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:35.119
<v Speaker 4>They were specifically targeting the plane of jars.

1482
01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean, were people hiding in them?

1483
01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Possibly?

1484
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:42.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean mayighty maybe, But I mean, how many people

1485
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:44.279
<v Speaker 4>are you hiding inside of a jar?

1486
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Dude?

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01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:49.520
<v Speaker 4>And this is Site one, So there's three hundred jars here, Okay,

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01:18:49.560 --> 01:18:51.800
<v Speaker 4>so three hundred dudes are hiding here.

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01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna bomb the hell out of that alone?

1490
01:18:55.720 --> 01:18:58.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but could you possibly, like I don't know,

1491
01:18:58.199 --> 01:19:00.600
<v Speaker 3>throw down a turret in there or something.

1492
01:19:01.640 --> 01:19:03.760
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean no, because we weren't supposed to be

1493
01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:08.000
<v Speaker 4>in Laos, right, That's the thing. We allegedly, quote unquote

1494
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:11.560
<v Speaker 4>had no troops in Laos or Cambodia, even though we

1495
01:19:11.600 --> 01:19:15.560
<v Speaker 4>absolutely did look up anything involving mac VSAG, which was

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01:19:15.600 --> 01:19:19.560
<v Speaker 4>the predecessor for Delta and the SOCOM in general, the

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01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:24.239
<v Speaker 4>special forces community. But my point is, Okay, I could

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01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Speaker 4>understand it, but like, dude, this wasn't some sort of

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01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:31.359
<v Speaker 4>a crazy strategic target. And even if you had three

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01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:35.960
<v Speaker 4>dudes per jar, they are miles away from Vietnam. It

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01:19:36.359 --> 01:19:39.399
<v Speaker 4>doesn't make sense to bombit that heavily with this one

1502
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:42.079
<v Speaker 4>spot when you know there's other areas where you could

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01:19:42.119 --> 01:19:45.760
<v Speaker 4>hit your target. If anything, this would be a fortified position.

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01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:49.159
<v Speaker 4>These dudes are pretty safe from explosion unless one hits

1505
01:19:49.239 --> 01:19:51.840
<v Speaker 4>on top of them, like the dudes that were If

1506
01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:54.760
<v Speaker 4>there was dudes inside this jar, this bomb did not

1507
01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:58.319
<v Speaker 4>kill them, right, Like, they're fine. Yeah, their ears are

1508
01:19:58.399 --> 01:20:00.520
<v Speaker 4>ringing and they probably have a concussion or puken all

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01:20:00.560 --> 01:20:02.960
<v Speaker 4>over each other, but they lived through the experience.

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01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:03.560
<v Speaker 1>If that's the.

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01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:06.720
<v Speaker 4>Case, I'm telling you it makes a lot more sense

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01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:11.039
<v Speaker 4>to me that the government was bombing this area specifically

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01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:13.239
<v Speaker 4>for some other reasons.

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01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:15.359
<v Speaker 1>But we're going to get to all of it. Let's go.

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01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:19.159
<v Speaker 6>And many of the jars have been blown over and

1516
01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:23.279
<v Speaker 6>smashed in half by the bombing. But fortunately the majority

1517
01:20:23.279 --> 01:20:27.640
<v Speaker 6>of the jars were not destroyed. But there's massive damage here.

1518
01:20:27.720 --> 01:20:28.760
<v Speaker 6>There's no doubt about it.

1519
01:20:32.880 --> 01:20:37.319
<v Speaker 7>We did all the gis all right, So we're actually

1520
01:20:37.359 --> 01:20:41.039
<v Speaker 7>gonna stop this video at this time and let's go

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01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:43.279
<v Speaker 7>into the next article here.

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01:20:43.359 --> 01:20:46.239
<v Speaker 4>So this is from laosh Travel. As a matter of fact,

1523
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:50.640
<v Speaker 4>this is from the Laosian government themselves. They are trying

1524
01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:53.840
<v Speaker 4>to show the case this as the tourist attraction itself.

1525
01:20:54.319 --> 01:20:56.399
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's do a little reading here.

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01:20:58.840 --> 01:21:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Scattered along the the muang Fun plateau, the Plane of

1527
01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:05.560
<v Speaker 3>Jars is one of the most important prehistoric sites in

1528
01:21:05.560 --> 01:21:09.159
<v Speaker 3>Southeast Asia, located near Fonsavan Commune in the province of

1529
01:21:09.239 --> 01:21:12.880
<v Speaker 3>xeng Chong and Laos. This destination has been a challenge

1530
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:16.319
<v Speaker 3>to laos An international archaeologists, with many myths, and its

1531
01:21:16.359 --> 01:21:21.239
<v Speaker 3>origins are still unknown until now. Until now they think

1532
01:21:21.279 --> 01:21:23.439
<v Speaker 3>that they know the origins as what they're saying.

1533
01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:26.119
<v Speaker 1>At least more now than they did thirty years ago.

1534
01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:29.319
<v Speaker 3>There are about two thousand jars dating from the Iron Age,

1535
01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:32.520
<v Speaker 3>which is five hundred BC to five hundred AD and

1536
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:36.239
<v Speaker 3>possibly up to as late as eight hundred eighty scattered

1537
01:21:36.279 --> 01:21:39.479
<v Speaker 3>in many locations of the province due to unexploded bombs,

1538
01:21:39.640 --> 01:21:42.279
<v Speaker 3>mines and ammunition. Not all sites have been put in

1539
01:21:42.319 --> 01:21:46.039
<v Speaker 3>operation yet. At present, seven jar sites that are open

1540
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:48.680
<v Speaker 3>for tourists include Site one, which is the most visited,

1541
01:21:48.960 --> 01:21:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Site two and three, Site sixteen near the old capital

1542
01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:57.159
<v Speaker 3>xing Chuang, Site twenty three near the hot spring in

1543
01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:01.960
<v Speaker 3>muang Kom, Site twenty five in the largely unvisited Fu

1544
01:22:02.239 --> 01:22:07.119
<v Speaker 3>Coast district I'm guessing, and Site fifty two near Hamong

1545
01:22:07.239 --> 01:22:10.439
<v Speaker 3>Village where is only accessible by foot.

1546
01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:12.960
<v Speaker 4>So you see what I'm saying here, Dude, they keep

1547
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:16.640
<v Speaker 4>talking about sites one, two and three. They've got more

1548
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:19.600
<v Speaker 4>than just Site fifty two. But that's my point. There's

1549
01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:23.520
<v Speaker 4>so many sites where these things exist, scattered around the country,

1550
01:22:23.880 --> 01:22:26.359
<v Speaker 4>and they don't even make sense as to why and.

1551
01:22:26.279 --> 01:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>How they're lined up. But again, we're gonna learn more

1552
01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:29.279
<v Speaker 1>about it.

1553
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:31.960
<v Speaker 3>From a distance. The plane of jars is like a chessboard,

1554
01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:36.199
<v Speaker 3>while the jars are like amazing plump chess pieces. Coming closer,

1555
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:39.760
<v Speaker 3>visitors can see the fantastic mixture without any fixed arrangement.

1556
01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:43.640
<v Speaker 3>Many jars are completely protruded on the ground, while others

1557
01:22:43.720 --> 01:22:47.439
<v Speaker 3>can be partially sunk on the ground. The shapes are

1558
01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.960
<v Speaker 3>also different, including the not the straight mouth, the square,

1559
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 3>same as their various sizes up to three meters high

1560
01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:57.840
<v Speaker 3>and wait up to several tons. On July sixth, twenty nineteen,

1561
01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:01.279
<v Speaker 3>megalithic jar sites in jang Shuang Plane of Jars officially

1562
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:05.039
<v Speaker 3>became a World Heritage Site after twenty years of waiting

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01:23:05.079 --> 01:23:07.960
<v Speaker 3>for approval, which is the third World Cultural Heritage of

1564
01:23:08.039 --> 01:23:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Laos recognized by UNESCO, after town of Long pro Bang

1565
01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:17.359
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen ninety five and that Fu and associated ancient

1566
01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:22.039
<v Speaker 3>settlements within the Campascic cultural landscape in two thousand and one.

1567
01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Touching the rough time green milestones lying quietly on the ground,

1568
01:23:25.920 --> 01:23:29.479
<v Speaker 3>people vaguely feel the great history worical mysteries behind. Let's

1569
01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:32.920
<v Speaker 3>discover all the values of the destination through this post.

1570
01:23:33.880 --> 01:23:35.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, look at this dude as a spot to

1571
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:38.520
<v Speaker 4>just go and check out, and no one has any

1572
01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:39.359
<v Speaker 4>answers for it.

1573
01:23:39.399 --> 01:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is a wild thing. So far.

1574
01:23:42.279 --> 01:23:46.039
<v Speaker 3>The history of the stone jars has been still put

1575
01:23:46.079 --> 01:23:49.079
<v Speaker 3>in mystery and their certain purpose has also been unknown,

1576
01:23:49.119 --> 01:23:51.239
<v Speaker 3>but are believed to be about fifteen hundred to two

1577
01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:55.479
<v Speaker 3>thousand years old. According to the Laosian legend, it claimed

1578
01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:57.640
<v Speaker 3>that there were giants who once settled in this area

1579
01:23:57.720 --> 01:24:00.800
<v Speaker 3>and created jars to store rice wine, which was brought

1580
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:04.960
<v Speaker 3>to commemorate the victor of their king kun Cheng against

1581
01:24:04.960 --> 01:24:07.600
<v Speaker 3>the enemy. Another idea is that these jars were used

1582
01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:11.680
<v Speaker 3>to store monsoon rainwater, which could be provided for caravan

1583
01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:14.560
<v Speaker 3>travelers along their journey, as the water was not readily

1584
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:18.479
<v Speaker 3>available for or on the easiest footpaths when it occurred seasonal.

1585
01:24:18.920 --> 01:24:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Following the theory from most archaeologists, they believe them to

1586
01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:26.560
<v Speaker 3>be earns. In nineteen thirty, French archaeologists Kolani began surveying

1587
01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:29.039
<v Speaker 3>the area and concluded that the stone jars were related

1588
01:24:29.079 --> 01:24:32.399
<v Speaker 3>to prehistoric burial rights when she discovered a cave housing

1589
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:36.159
<v Speaker 3>human remains such as burned bones and ash. Excavations by

1590
01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Lousian and Japanese archaeologists over the years also helped support

1591
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:43.439
<v Speaker 3>this hypothesis when many remains, burial objects, and ceramics were

1592
01:24:43.439 --> 01:24:46.239
<v Speaker 3>found around the stone jars. Even The materials that make

1593
01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:49.520
<v Speaker 3>these jars are controversial. Some say that they're made of limestone.

1594
01:24:49.520 --> 01:24:52.960
<v Speaker 3>Others say that they're made of laterite and marble mixed

1595
01:24:53.000 --> 01:24:56.479
<v Speaker 3>with some special ancient and now lost materials. At present,

1596
01:24:56.560 --> 01:25:00.399
<v Speaker 3>all jars are empty, with only with d the only

1597
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:03.920
<v Speaker 3>single jar with lib okay.

1598
01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that means it's a lid like a jar.

1599
01:25:06.239 --> 01:25:09.479
<v Speaker 3>And lid, gotcha. Some other lids have been found between

1600
01:25:09.520 --> 01:25:14.039
<v Speaker 3>the jars, which were made of stone and wood. Archaeologists

1601
01:25:14.079 --> 01:25:16.960
<v Speaker 3>have yet to come to a conclusion. However, research is

1602
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:19.039
<v Speaker 3>still struggling as the jars are one of the most

1603
01:25:19.119 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 3>dangerous archaeological sites in the world and no matter how

1604
01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:24.560
<v Speaker 3>many theories are put forward, all have contributed to the

1605
01:25:24.600 --> 01:25:28.479
<v Speaker 3>weaving of a field of legendary jars, attracting visitors from

1606
01:25:28.479 --> 01:25:29.880
<v Speaker 3>all over the world to come and.

1607
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:37.039
<v Speaker 4>Discover absolutely so now outstanding values of the Plane of Jars.

1608
01:25:37.359 --> 01:25:39.960
<v Speaker 3>The Plane of Jars is located at a historical crossroads

1609
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:43.560
<v Speaker 3>the facilitated movement through the region, enabling trade and cultural exchange.

1610
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:47.560
<v Speaker 3>The location is between two major cultural systems of Southeast

1611
01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:51.319
<v Speaker 3>Asia in Iron Age, including the Red River Gulf of

1612
01:25:51.399 --> 01:25:55.760
<v Speaker 3>Tonkin system and mun mccong system. So the distribution of

1613
01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the jar site seems associated with overland routes. The various size,

1614
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.880
<v Speaker 3>ape and quantity of the megalithic jars, which are well crafted,

1615
01:26:03.960 --> 01:26:08.439
<v Speaker 3>require technological skill to produce. Their wide distribution within jeng

1616
01:26:08.560 --> 01:26:12.359
<v Speaker 3>Schuan Province is remarkable. The jars and the cereal property

1617
01:26:12.199 --> 01:26:16.760
<v Speaker 3>that can attest to the quarrying, manufacturing, transportation and use

1618
01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:19.640
<v Speaker 3>are the most prominent evidence of the Iron Age civilization.

1619
01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:24.279
<v Speaker 3>The form, design, uh and mostly original materials and locations

1620
01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:28.920
<v Speaker 3>of the megalithic jars, lids, secondary burials and archaeological deposits,

1621
01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:32.119
<v Speaker 3>as well as their abundance, antiquity and condition create the

1622
01:26:32.159 --> 01:26:34.119
<v Speaker 3>authenticity of the serial property.

1623
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:37.880
<v Speaker 4>So they talk about how to get there by by

1624
01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:39.800
<v Speaker 4>air and by road and by.

1625
01:26:39.640 --> 01:26:40.479
<v Speaker 1>All these things.

1626
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:44.000
<v Speaker 4>So let's let's go down here to what's to see

1627
01:26:44.159 --> 01:26:45.319
<v Speaker 4>in the plane of jars.

1628
01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:47.960
<v Speaker 3>So one of the most uh as one of the

1629
01:26:47.960 --> 01:26:52.600
<v Speaker 3>most attractions of Fonsavan and jang Jipong province.

1630
01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:56.920
<v Speaker 4>Felt in the English translation one of the most attractions

1631
01:26:57.039 --> 01:26:58.039
<v Speaker 4>of the province.

1632
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:01.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one of the most plane of jars attracts many

1633
01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:04.520
<v Speaker 3>visitors to come among hundreds of jars at various sites.

1634
01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:06.760
<v Speaker 3>There are three main sites that are the most investigated

1635
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:09.680
<v Speaker 3>and visited in this area. The Plane of Jar Site one,

1636
01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:13.079
<v Speaker 3>so Jar Site one is the closest to Fontsevan, just

1637
01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:16.319
<v Speaker 3>about ten minutes of a drive. This is also the biggest, easiest,

1638
01:27:16.720 --> 01:27:19.439
<v Speaker 3>the biggest and easiest to access and most visited of

1639
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:22.479
<v Speaker 3>all the plane of jars. There is a visitor center

1640
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:25.520
<v Speaker 3>at the entrance which provides information and history about the

1641
01:27:25.520 --> 01:27:27.720
<v Speaker 3>plane of jars as well as its importance during the

1642
01:27:27.760 --> 01:27:33.680
<v Speaker 3>Second Indo China War and community handicraft shop. Jar Site

1643
01:27:33.720 --> 01:27:35.960
<v Speaker 3>one has a number of unique elements to make it

1644
01:27:36.079 --> 01:27:40.279
<v Speaker 3>a make it a kind of one stop shop of

1645
01:27:40.319 --> 01:27:43.199
<v Speaker 3>all interesting parts of the plane of jars, including the

1646
01:27:43.199 --> 01:27:46.800
<v Speaker 3>biggest jar which is over ten tons of weights ten

1647
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:52.039
<v Speaker 3>tons of weights and nearly three meters high, the jar

1648
01:27:52.199 --> 01:27:55.079
<v Speaker 3>with lid, carved jars, and a large cave which is

1649
01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:58.399
<v Speaker 3>thought to be an ancient crematorium. At this site you're

1650
01:27:58.600 --> 01:28:01.720
<v Speaker 3>also reminded of the Grim War in the sixties through trenches,

1651
01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:03.199
<v Speaker 3>foxholes and bomb craters.

1652
01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:07.680
<v Speaker 4>So this is the lid in question here again, bro,

1653
01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:11.479
<v Speaker 4>how many Lautian men do you think it would take

1654
01:28:11.840 --> 01:28:15.079
<v Speaker 4>to lift this thing off? To get in here and

1655
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:18.520
<v Speaker 4>place things or to store things and then put it

1656
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:19.520
<v Speaker 4>back up here.

1657
01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:21.119
<v Speaker 3>I'd say probably about a dozen.

1658
01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:24.720
<v Speaker 4>That's all I'm saying, dude, the whole giants conversation. I'm

1659
01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:28.239
<v Speaker 4>not saying that giants use these as drinking cups. But

1660
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:33.279
<v Speaker 4>you see what I'm saying here, that's that's a big

1661
01:28:33.319 --> 01:28:38.760
<v Speaker 4>claim to say that ten Southeast Asian gentlemen just got

1662
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:41.600
<v Speaker 4>down and squat pressed that bitch off of a two

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01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.520
<v Speaker 4>meter tall clay jar or stone jar.

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01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:46.239
<v Speaker 1>That that's kind of wild.

1665
01:28:46.720 --> 01:28:49.800
<v Speaker 3>I have a I have an idea what they could be.

1666
01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:54.479
<v Speaker 4>On on the jars in totality or this one jars

1667
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:55.119
<v Speaker 4>in totality.

1668
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, hold on, Let's wait for theories to the end.

1669
01:28:58.680 --> 01:29:02.239
<v Speaker 3>All right. So then we get to the plane of

1670
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Jar Site two. It says further to Fonsavan is Jar

1671
01:29:05.880 --> 01:29:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Sit two without good path, which is bumpy, unpaved, dusty

1672
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:12.439
<v Speaker 3>and properly muddy too. Jar Sit two is split into

1673
01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:14.920
<v Speaker 3>two by the road, with the difference from each side.

1674
01:29:15.159 --> 01:29:18.760
<v Speaker 3>For one side there are jars on the top of

1675
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:21.079
<v Speaker 3>a small hill with dramatic views of the plains, while

1676
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:23.920
<v Speaker 3>jars secluded in a small corpse of trees which bring

1677
01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:27.079
<v Speaker 3>more intimate and secretive On the other side here are

1678
01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:30.680
<v Speaker 3>here Many of the jars show the damage from roots

1679
01:29:30.720 --> 01:29:34.640
<v Speaker 3>by effective time and nature, while others are completely split

1680
01:29:34.720 --> 01:29:38.680
<v Speaker 3>in two by their forest neighbors. This site is less touristy,

1681
01:29:38.760 --> 01:29:42.199
<v Speaker 3>so visitors can feel closer to such an incredible historical

1682
01:29:42.279 --> 01:29:46.159
<v Speaker 3>landmarks and more quote unquote green with more scenic hilltop

1683
01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:48.319
<v Speaker 3>view of rice paddy fields and the plains below.

1684
01:29:49.279 --> 01:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, now we get in two Site three and look

1685
01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:53.199
<v Speaker 1>how tall this jar is?

1686
01:29:53.279 --> 01:29:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Dude, so big, it says jar. Site three is pretty

1687
01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:58.680
<v Speaker 3>similar to jar Sit two and also surrounded by a

1688
01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:01.159
<v Speaker 3>small cluster of trees. From Site two, you can take

1689
01:30:01.199 --> 01:30:04.119
<v Speaker 3>an easy thirty minute walk to Site three via ban

1690
01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Shin Jengoi village. This walk between sites can make the

1691
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:14.039
<v Speaker 3>feel of the most authentic way when you uh when

1692
01:30:14.119 --> 01:30:16.159
<v Speaker 3>you can see the farming activity and away from the

1693
01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:19.159
<v Speaker 3>roads and houses. Here the jars are less uniform and

1694
01:30:19.199 --> 01:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>more rectangular than those at Site one, and some jars

1695
01:30:21.880 --> 01:30:26.159
<v Speaker 3>are so tall for visitors to see inside. For safety,

1696
01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:29.319
<v Speaker 3>visitors should carefully follow the small stone marker's place by

1697
01:30:29.479 --> 01:30:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Mind's Advisory Group mag which are designed to show walk safe.

1698
01:30:34.359 --> 01:30:40.159
<v Speaker 3>As this such area has been cleared of unexploded ordinance absolutely.

1699
01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Now ban Napia.

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01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Okay, this is the Warspoon village, and that doesn't really

1701
01:30:45.640 --> 01:30:47.840
<v Speaker 4>play into the whole Jar situation. But like I said,

1702
01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:51.680
<v Speaker 4>this is a this is a tourist website for LAOS,

1703
01:30:51.920 --> 01:30:54.279
<v Speaker 4>so it makes sense that they would go that way

1704
01:30:54.319 --> 01:30:59.159
<v Speaker 4>with it. Now, real quick, let's read a little bit

1705
01:30:59.279 --> 01:31:03.840
<v Speaker 4>about the whole operation. Here Air and Space Forces Magazine

1706
01:31:04.199 --> 01:31:06.359
<v Speaker 4>because it used to be Air Force Magazine but now

1707
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:10.840
<v Speaker 4>it's Air and Space Forces Magazine. An article written in

1708
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:14.119
<v Speaker 4>nineteen ninety nine about the Plane of Jars. Dude, and

1709
01:31:14.159 --> 01:31:16.600
<v Speaker 4>this will go a little more in detail about the operation.

1710
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna read all of it.

1711
01:31:17.680 --> 01:31:20.840
<v Speaker 4>It is a rather long article, and we really don't

1712
01:31:20.880 --> 01:31:22.680
<v Speaker 4>because it gets into the types of planes that we

1713
01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:24.600
<v Speaker 4>used and the types of ordnance that we're dropped in

1714
01:31:24.600 --> 01:31:25.359
<v Speaker 4>all these things.

1715
01:31:25.680 --> 01:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>We only need to get into all of that.

1716
01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:30.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I got a Wikipedia article right here about

1717
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:32.600
<v Speaker 4>operation Barrel Role. We're gonna read like the excerpt from

1718
01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:34.159
<v Speaker 4>that one to kind of get the veel for that.

1719
01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:37.840
<v Speaker 4>But I thought it was interesting that the United States

1720
01:31:37.840 --> 01:31:41.319
<v Speaker 4>military that bombed the fuck out of the Plane of

1721
01:31:41.439 --> 01:31:44.119
<v Speaker 4>Jars wrote an article about it in ninety nine.

1722
01:31:44.159 --> 01:31:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I figured to be worth a read.

1723
01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:48.000
<v Speaker 3>The Plane of Jars is a five hundred square mile

1724
01:31:48.119 --> 01:31:51.159
<v Speaker 3>diamond shape region in northern Laos, covered with rolling hills,

1725
01:31:51.199 --> 01:31:54.520
<v Speaker 3>high ridges, and grassy flatlands. Its average altitude is about

1726
01:31:54.520 --> 01:31:57.159
<v Speaker 3>three thousand feet. It derives its name from the hundreds

1727
01:31:57.199 --> 01:32:00.960
<v Speaker 3>of graystone jars that dot the landscape, five feet high

1728
01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:03.960
<v Speaker 3>and half again as broad. These containers were created by

1729
01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:07.600
<v Speaker 3>a people of a megalithic Iron Age culture and probably

1730
01:32:07.680 --> 01:32:10.840
<v Speaker 3>served as burial earns. Exactly who created them and why

1731
01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:14.359
<v Speaker 3>their culture disappeared is not known. During the Long Southeast

1732
01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Asian War, all sides found the Plane of Charge to

1733
01:32:17.039 --> 01:32:21.319
<v Speaker 3>be situated in a highly strategic location. The area was

1734
01:32:21.319 --> 01:32:25.119
<v Speaker 3>a home to several airfields and contaminated and contained a

1735
01:32:25.359 --> 01:32:29.119
<v Speaker 3>limited road complex that connected various sectors of Laos to

1736
01:32:29.239 --> 01:32:32.359
<v Speaker 3>themselves and to the outside world. This crossroads has been

1737
01:32:32.359 --> 01:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>a battleground for centuries, but never so but never so

1738
01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:41.720
<v Speaker 3>intensively as this centuries many overlapping conflicts and into China.

1739
01:32:42.079 --> 01:32:44.000
<v Speaker 3>The struggle for the Plane of Jars and Laos in

1740
01:32:44.039 --> 01:32:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen sixties and seventies was a mysterious and tragic affair,

1741
01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Wrapped in the confusion and obscured by years of falsehoods

1742
01:32:51.439 --> 01:32:54.079
<v Speaker 3>and half truths. It was a side show to the

1743
01:32:54.119 --> 01:32:57.800
<v Speaker 3>main war in Vietnam, but it was ennobled by some

1744
01:32:57.880 --> 01:33:00.000
<v Speaker 3>of the finest and most heroic flying in the history

1745
01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:03.760
<v Speaker 3>the United States Air Force. These valiant efforts were designed

1746
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:07.159
<v Speaker 3>to support US back forces and destroy Communists North Vietnamese

1747
01:33:07.239 --> 01:33:10.239
<v Speaker 3>units that opposed them. The Many campaigns and the Plane

1748
01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:12.800
<v Speaker 3>of Jars were fought in parallel with a continuing bombing

1749
01:33:12.840 --> 01:33:18.359
<v Speaker 3>effort against the Ho Chi Minh Trial Trail. Rather, the

1750
01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:22.000
<v Speaker 3>latter campaign would prove to be futile for enemy vict

1751
01:33:22.319 --> 01:33:25.640
<v Speaker 3>for enemy activities in South Vietnam could be sustained on

1752
01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:29.159
<v Speaker 3>as little as sixty tons of supplies a day, the

1753
01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:32.880
<v Speaker 3>equivalent the equivalent of about thirty trucks worth of material.

1754
01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:36.279
<v Speaker 3>So then we get into the secret war. So the

1755
01:33:36.399 --> 01:33:40.000
<v Speaker 3>Laosian War was a quote unquote secret war by tacit

1756
01:33:40.119 --> 01:33:44.359
<v Speaker 3>agreement on both sides. It was nominally a civil war,

1757
01:33:44.439 --> 01:33:48.199
<v Speaker 3>purportedly reflecting the divided interest and political loyalties of members

1758
01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:51.560
<v Speaker 3>of the Laosian royal family. In fact, the war was

1759
01:33:51.560 --> 01:33:54.960
<v Speaker 3>fought largely by surrogates of their own aims. The Laosians

1760
01:33:55.520 --> 01:33:59.439
<v Speaker 3>are proving generally to be peace loving even when, especially

1761
01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:04.119
<v Speaker 3>when in uniform. The communist force comprised tough, regular North

1762
01:34:04.159 --> 01:34:08.279
<v Speaker 3>Vietnamese Army units and supplementary and generally not very effective

1763
01:34:08.319 --> 01:34:12.319
<v Speaker 3>local path at Lao units. They were opposed by the

1764
01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:17.239
<v Speaker 3>very ineffective Royal Laosian Armed Forces, whose leaders preferred to

1765
01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>let the despised Laosian hill people, the Mung chamong do

1766
01:34:23.079 --> 01:34:23.640
<v Speaker 3>the real fight.

1767
01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>It's pronounced mung, but yeah.

1768
01:34:25.920 --> 01:34:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, they just said, fuck that a trait there they

1769
01:34:28.840 --> 01:34:31.439
<v Speaker 3>do that. It's Southeast Asia. They'd be throwing letters in

1770
01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:34.720
<v Speaker 3>for the fuck of it. The US supplied airpower on

1771
01:34:34.760 --> 01:34:37.720
<v Speaker 3>a very limited scale, initially in greater and greater amounts

1772
01:34:37.760 --> 01:34:41.720
<v Speaker 3>as the war progressed. As the Mung casualties rose, the

1773
01:34:41.840 --> 01:34:45.960
<v Speaker 3>US sponsored fighting forces were increasingly augmented by Thai volunteers

1774
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:49.880
<v Speaker 3>in quotes, whose numbers eventually reached seventeen thousand. Highly doubt

1775
01:34:49.880 --> 01:34:51.640
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have that many volunteers. I like how they

1776
01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:52.800
<v Speaker 3>put it in quotes there like that.

1777
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I should also make a mention of this.

1778
01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:59.960
<v Speaker 4>The Mung were some of the most insane fighters period,

1779
01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:01.439
<v Speaker 4>and they were hated.

1780
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>They were like, how could I put this?

1781
01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:06.800
<v Speaker 4>They were known as the hill people, right, And so

1782
01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:09.840
<v Speaker 4>a lot of MACV saw guys in US Special Forces

1783
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:11.800
<v Speaker 4>guys that were operating in this area, and I've even

1784
01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:14.640
<v Speaker 4>talked to a few former French Foreign Legion guys that

1785
01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:17.760
<v Speaker 4>were operating in this area too. The Mong were looking

1786
01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:20.199
<v Speaker 4>for any kind of ally that could just help them

1787
01:35:20.319 --> 01:35:23.840
<v Speaker 4>defend themselves against the outside invaders, whether it was the

1788
01:35:23.880 --> 01:35:26.560
<v Speaker 4>communists from the north, the Royal Guards from the south,

1789
01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:30.159
<v Speaker 4>whatever the case was. They pretty much all unanimously hated

1790
01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:34.079
<v Speaker 4>the Mung. So when it came time to get some

1791
01:35:34.199 --> 01:35:37.640
<v Speaker 4>local assets, people who knew the jungle, people who knew

1792
01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:40.119
<v Speaker 4>the hill country, people that could tell you when something

1793
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:43.199
<v Speaker 4>is out of place, the Mong were the people to

1794
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:46.319
<v Speaker 4>be like. They were the guys, right, they were the

1795
01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:49.960
<v Speaker 4>dude that was in the clutch situation. But it depended

1796
01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:53.479
<v Speaker 4>on situation, right. There was tons of times when the

1797
01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:56.880
<v Speaker 4>Mung would straight up abandon their post and just lead

1798
01:35:56.920 --> 01:36:00.079
<v Speaker 4>the US service members to fend for themselves when they

1799
01:36:00.079 --> 01:36:03.600
<v Speaker 4>basically accidentally walk them into an ambush. And there were

1800
01:36:03.600 --> 01:36:05.880
<v Speaker 4>other times where they would like fight tooth and nail

1801
01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:08.439
<v Speaker 4>to the last man to defend what they considered their

1802
01:36:08.479 --> 01:36:12.319
<v Speaker 4>home turf, their hill or whatever. The case was so yeah,

1803
01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:15.279
<v Speaker 4>the monk casualties definitely rose because they were kind of

1804
01:36:15.279 --> 01:36:16.960
<v Speaker 4>thrown into the mix for the fuck of it.

1805
01:36:18.399 --> 01:36:21.560
<v Speaker 3>As the mon casualties rose, the US sponsored fighting forces

1806
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:26.399
<v Speaker 3>were increasingly augmented by Thai volunteers, which eventually reached seventeen thousand.

1807
01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:29.920
<v Speaker 3>As they said, these mostly were mercenaries paid with US

1808
01:36:30.000 --> 01:36:32.960
<v Speaker 3>funds and led by the Thai Armies regular officers and

1809
01:36:33.039 --> 01:36:36.840
<v Speaker 3>non commissioned officers. The situation suited the US, which was

1810
01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:41.439
<v Speaker 3>loath to introduce American ground forces. The Mong were supported

1811
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:46.279
<v Speaker 3>by airpower and supplied by the CIA. Shocker there Coincidentally,

1812
01:36:46.319 --> 01:36:50.359
<v Speaker 3>the Vietnamese were also were content to let the war

1813
01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:53.600
<v Speaker 3>simmer as long as they could protect traffic along the

1814
01:36:53.640 --> 01:36:58.119
<v Speaker 3>ever growing Ho Chi Minh trail. Air sorties against the

1815
01:36:58.159 --> 01:37:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Plane of Jars tied up US military assets that otherwise

1816
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:04.640
<v Speaker 3>would be used to bomb the trail. North Vietnam was

1817
01:37:04.640 --> 01:37:08.479
<v Speaker 3>confident that when South Vietnam fell Laos Woodfall, the worst

1818
01:37:08.479 --> 01:37:10.359
<v Speaker 3>result of the fourteen year struggle of the Planet of

1819
01:37:10.399 --> 01:37:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Jars was the destruction of a noble ally, the Monk.

1820
01:37:13.359 --> 01:37:16.439
<v Speaker 3>They fought in countless battles against North Vietnamese forces and

1821
01:37:16.479 --> 01:37:20.119
<v Speaker 3>were in the end, left to their fates. Originally numbering

1822
01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:23.279
<v Speaker 3>about three hundred thousand people living high on mountain ranged

1823
01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:28.000
<v Speaker 3>ridges and subsisting by means of slash and burn agricultural techniques,

1824
01:37:28.239 --> 01:37:32.039
<v Speaker 3>the monk suffered some thirty thousand casualties, mostly young fighting men.

1825
01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:36.640
<v Speaker 3>The Mung families were driven from their homes to CIA

1826
01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:40.760
<v Speaker 3>supported hilltop encampments where they were fed by in quotes,

1827
01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:45.199
<v Speaker 3>soft rice drops and armed by in quotes hard rice drops.

1828
01:37:46.319 --> 01:37:49.880
<v Speaker 4>So what that means is essentially so the CIA they're

1829
01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:52.920
<v Speaker 4>not a war fighting force. They do intelligence work right,

1830
01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:56.800
<v Speaker 4>and sometimes that means you have to get your allies

1831
01:37:56.840 --> 01:37:57.159
<v Speaker 4>on the.

1832
01:37:57.079 --> 01:37:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Ground the hook up.

1833
01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:01.760
<v Speaker 4>And so if the people in the Mung, if they

1834
01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:05.840
<v Speaker 4>needed food, they would be getting boxes lace labeled as

1835
01:38:06.039 --> 01:38:09.520
<v Speaker 4>soft rice drops, and if they needed more AMMO, they

1836
01:38:09.560 --> 01:38:12.439
<v Speaker 4>would be getting boxes labeled hard rice drops.

1837
01:38:12.720 --> 01:38:16.239
<v Speaker 3>You with me very well, Okay? So when the end came,

1838
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:19.760
<v Speaker 3>those who those who could do so, fled to camps

1839
01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:22.479
<v Speaker 3>in Thailand. Those who chose to remain in Laos were

1840
01:38:22.520 --> 01:38:25.920
<v Speaker 3>for years hunted down and killed by Laoshan communists. A

1841
01:38:26.079 --> 01:38:29.560
<v Speaker 3>few mon relocated to the US. The war was fought

1842
01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:32.119
<v Speaker 3>through the years on a seasonal basis, with US sponsored

1843
01:38:32.119 --> 01:38:35.239
<v Speaker 3>forces advancing from April through September in the monsoon season,

1844
01:38:35.319 --> 01:38:38.720
<v Speaker 3>and the North Vietnamese and its allies responding during the

1845
01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:41.600
<v Speaker 3>dry season of October through March. Perhaps unique to this

1846
01:38:41.640 --> 01:38:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Ebb and Flow war was as unusual vertical separation of territory,

1847
01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:50.000
<v Speaker 3>for the Mung often dominated mountains and ridges, even when

1848
01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:54.439
<v Speaker 3>the path At Lao or North Vietnamese owned the valleys below.

1849
01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:59.039
<v Speaker 3>It should be noted that the lowland Laosians discriminated against

1850
01:38:59.199 --> 01:39:04.680
<v Speaker 3>the hill people. Indeed, indeed, Laos is a landlocked country

1851
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.800
<v Speaker 3>that shares a border with Cambodia, China, Thailand, Vietnam or Vietnam,

1852
01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:12.720
<v Speaker 3>and Burma now called Myanmar. It's recorded history starts with

1853
01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:19.399
<v Speaker 3>the Lao Kingdom of lang janlang Jan, founded in the

1854
01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:22.760
<v Speaker 3>thirteen hundreds. It has since suffered through six centuries of

1855
01:39:23.039 --> 01:39:26.119
<v Speaker 3>more or less unbroken warfare, and in nineteen oh seven

1856
01:39:26.159 --> 01:39:29.039
<v Speaker 3>France established the modern borders of Laos, primarily to serve

1857
01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:33.279
<v Speaker 3>as a bulwark against the Thai and Chinese expansion into

1858
01:39:33.359 --> 01:39:36.720
<v Speaker 3>what was then French into China. It was granted independence

1859
01:39:36.720 --> 01:39:38.119
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen fifty three.

1860
01:39:39.079 --> 01:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's another big thing too.

1861
01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:43.680
<v Speaker 4>When you hear a lot of people that will compare

1862
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:47.880
<v Speaker 4>the war in Afghanistan against the war in Vietnam. There

1863
01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:51.359
<v Speaker 4>are some similarities that come to fruition. Okay, For one,

1864
01:39:51.800 --> 01:39:55.239
<v Speaker 4>it was guerrilla fighting. It was dudes that would shoot

1865
01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:58.239
<v Speaker 4>at you, go behind a wall, change their clothes real quick,

1866
01:39:58.239 --> 01:40:00.039
<v Speaker 4>and walk out, and you couldn't tell one from the

1867
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:02.680
<v Speaker 4>the other, right for one. For two, it was in

1868
01:40:02.720 --> 01:40:06.319
<v Speaker 4>an environment that we as Americans are very much not

1869
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<v Speaker 4>used to. We're talking jungles and mountains and flat lowlands and.

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<v Speaker 1>Rice patty and then more jungle.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we had the monsoon season that rains for months

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01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:19.479
<v Speaker 4>and months at a time, and they wouldn't fight in

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<v Speaker 4>the monsoon season.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as.

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01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:23.359
<v Speaker 4>Because we would do that, we would fight through the

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<v Speaker 4>rain because fuck them. Then when we would go back

1877
01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:28.720
<v Speaker 4>and kind of regroup, it'd be the dry season and

1878
01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:30.720
<v Speaker 4>that's when they would fight. And it was it was

1879
01:40:30.760 --> 01:40:35.279
<v Speaker 4>a crazy, crazy situation, saying kind of situation in the Afghanistan.

1880
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:38.199
<v Speaker 4>You had the harvest season where there would be almost

1881
01:40:38.279 --> 01:40:40.560
<v Speaker 4>no fighting that took place, and as soon as all

1882
01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:44.039
<v Speaker 4>the crops were harvested, mostly poppy for the opium, then

1883
01:40:44.840 --> 01:40:48.279
<v Speaker 4>all the quote unquote farmers would down their flags and

1884
01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:50.560
<v Speaker 4>now they're the bad guys again. And it was a

1885
01:40:50.600 --> 01:40:54.000
<v Speaker 4>crazy thing not to mention they pretty much have been

1886
01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:59.840
<v Speaker 4>in open conflict since their beginning, since the thirteen hundreds. Essentially,

1887
01:40:59.840 --> 01:41:04.319
<v Speaker 4>this area has just had warfare, warfare, warfare, same with Afghanistan,

1888
01:41:04.399 --> 01:41:08.039
<v Speaker 4>and these people have never been defeated on their home

1889
01:41:08.159 --> 01:41:12.560
<v Speaker 4>turf to this day. Period' That's the way this goes.

1890
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<v Speaker 4>So there's a lot of things to say that the

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01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:18.159
<v Speaker 4>Vietnam War and the war in Afghanistan kind of had

1892
01:41:18.159 --> 01:41:19.079
<v Speaker 4>some similarities.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude. All right, now moving on to this next one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see rescue.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh now, we could pretty much be done with this

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<v Speaker 4>off with this article because I was hoping that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we get a kind of a feel for the situation

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<v Speaker 4>as to the why the bombings took place in the

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01:41:40.199 --> 01:41:44.680
<v Speaker 4>plane of Jars, which leads us to Operation Barrel Role.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, now, I'm gonna read this one here. So

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<v Speaker 4>Operation Barrel Role was a covert interdiction and close air

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01:41:51.079 --> 01:41:54.239
<v Speaker 4>support campaign conducted in the Kingdom of Laos by the

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<v Speaker 4>US Air Force Second Air Division in the US Navy

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01:41:57.359 --> 01:42:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Task for seventy seven between March fifth, nineteen sixty four

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01:42:02.279 --> 01:42:09.199
<v Speaker 4>and March twenty ninth, nineteen seventy three, So for about

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01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:15.000
<v Speaker 4>nine years they bombed the ever loving shit out of

1907
01:42:15.039 --> 01:42:18.760
<v Speaker 4>this area. The operation was launched to persuade North Vietnam

1908
01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:22.800
<v Speaker 4>to stop supporting the insurgency in South Vietnam. It became

1909
01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:26.520
<v Speaker 4>an interdiction campaign against the ho Chi Mintrail, North Vietnam's

1910
01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:32.239
<v Speaker 4>main logistical corridor, which ran from southwestern North Vietnam through

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01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:37.720
<v Speaker 4>southeastern Laos and into South Vietnam. The operation also increasingly

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01:42:37.760 --> 01:42:42.680
<v Speaker 4>provided close air support for Royal Lao Armed Forces, CIA

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01:42:42.760 --> 01:42:46.159
<v Speaker 4>backed tribal allies and the Tai Volunteer Defense Corps in a.

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<v Speaker 1>Covert group I'm sorry, covert.

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<v Speaker 4>Ground war in northern and northeastern Laos barrel roll and

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<v Speaker 4>the quote unquote Secret.

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<v Speaker 1>Army, which would be all the groups that we just listed.

1918
01:42:57.560 --> 01:43:01.279
<v Speaker 4>Here, attempted to stem an increasing hide of People's Army

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01:43:01.319 --> 01:43:06.239
<v Speaker 4>of Vietnam and the Pathet Lao offensive. So the background

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<v Speaker 4>of it a little bit here. After a series of

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01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:11.600
<v Speaker 4>political and military mechanizations conducted by the US and the

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01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:16.680
<v Speaker 4>Palate Pathet Lao, the North Vietnamese in Laos that were

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01:43:16.720 --> 01:43:19.239
<v Speaker 4>described in the History of Laos since nineteen forty five,

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01:43:19.560 --> 01:43:23.520
<v Speaker 4>the Declaration of the Neutrality of Laos was signed in Geneva, Switzerland,

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01:43:23.680 --> 01:43:26.960
<v Speaker 4>on the twenty third of July nineteen sixty two. The agreement,

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01:43:27.439 --> 01:43:30.000
<v Speaker 4>which was an attempt to end a civil war between

1927
01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:35.079
<v Speaker 4>the communist dominated Pathet Lao neutralists and American backed rightists,

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01:43:35.640 --> 01:43:39.479
<v Speaker 4>included provisions that required the removal of all foreign military

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01:43:39.520 --> 01:43:43.399
<v Speaker 4>forces and precluded the use of Lao territory for interfering

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01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:47.119
<v Speaker 4>in the international affairs of another country. A blatant effort

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01:43:47.159 --> 01:43:51.000
<v Speaker 4>to shut down North Vietnam's growing logistical corridor through southeastern

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01:43:51.039 --> 01:43:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Laos that would become known as the Uchimen Trail. So

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<v Speaker 4>the entire thing was basically to break this up. You

1934
01:43:58.479 --> 01:44:02.560
<v Speaker 4>see this right here, red section of this map. So

1935
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<v Speaker 4>this is North Vietnam. This is the Gulf of Tonkin.

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<v Speaker 4>You might recognize it from the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

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<v Speaker 4>Over here is Thailand. This white section is Laos. It's

1938
01:44:11.760 --> 01:44:15.399
<v Speaker 4>a very small country in Southeast Asia. Operation Barrel Roll

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01:44:15.479 --> 01:44:19.039
<v Speaker 4>pretty much strafed and bombed the absolute fuck out of

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01:44:19.079 --> 01:44:23.960
<v Speaker 4>this entire eastern area of the country. The Plane of

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01:44:24.079 --> 01:44:29.399
<v Speaker 4>Jars happens to be in this region, and specifically it

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01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:32.000
<v Speaker 4>was bombed more than the rest of the area. To

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01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:35.119
<v Speaker 4>be completely honest with you, But yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy and it still is.

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<v Speaker 4>They are still dealing with the remnants of this war

1946
01:44:41.239 --> 01:44:44.199
<v Speaker 4>and the bombs that were dropped to this day. So

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<v Speaker 4>all this being said, let's hear a couple of theories

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<v Speaker 4>as to where they came from and how they came from,

1949
01:44:52.279 --> 01:44:55.199
<v Speaker 4>and a couple of other let's just call it historic

1950
01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:59.439
<v Speaker 4>precedents for what these jars might have been meant to

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01:44:59.560 --> 01:45:01.279
<v Speaker 4>symboliz or be akin to.

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<v Speaker 1>So real quick, do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Want to give your theory as of this moment? Do

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<v Speaker 4>you want to hear this video out?

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<v Speaker 1>First? What are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of just had a silly theory I was

1957
01:45:09.720 --> 01:45:13.399
<v Speaker 3>gonna throw out there just being for it. Basically, Uh,

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01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:17.800
<v Speaker 3>if dinosaurs are in fact not fake and gay, could

1959
01:45:17.800 --> 01:45:22.039
<v Speaker 3>this have been ancient dinosaur shit? And somehow the people

1960
01:45:22.279 --> 01:45:25.479
<v Speaker 3>knew how to find some kind of housing. So I

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01:45:25.479 --> 01:45:28.239
<v Speaker 3>would imagine that maybe this was some kind of pterodactyl

1962
01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:33.319
<v Speaker 3>dropping that just so happened to be huge dong not dong,

1963
01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:35.960
<v Speaker 3>but uh dung dung rather.

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01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Terodacts are They're huge pedong.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, huge p doongs and uh and and and somehow

1966
01:45:42.159 --> 01:45:46.119
<v Speaker 3>people found ways to make it spiritual. I mean, who's

1967
01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:48.800
<v Speaker 3>to say because they are scattered, you know what I mean,

1968
01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:50.880
<v Speaker 3>like all over the place. It's not like, you know,

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01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:53.439
<v Speaker 3>my dog, for example, whenever he takes a ship, he

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01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:55.399
<v Speaker 3>has to walk and ship. He can't just sit in

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01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:57.199
<v Speaker 3>one spot and take a ship. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>What it looks like, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh dude, that's hilarious my dog. Well, I mean, granted,

1974
01:46:03.319 --> 01:46:05.960
<v Speaker 4>might I have English Masters. So she shits the size

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01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:07.560
<v Speaker 4>of like she's a shit.

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01:46:07.960 --> 01:46:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:46:08.199 --> 01:46:11.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So yeah, she gets in one spot and you

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01:46:11.359 --> 01:46:13.560
<v Speaker 4>see that hip go like down.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, yeah, here we go. And you could

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01:46:15.199 --> 01:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>hear that bitch drop and hit the earth when she shits.

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<v Speaker 3>It just shakes the fucking terror.

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01:46:20.399 --> 01:46:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. You know you can hear it legitimately.

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01:46:23.079 --> 01:46:24.399
<v Speaker 1>If I'm out there and I'm just playing on my

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01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>phone whatever waiting for her, you hear it's like, yeah,

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01:46:27.079 --> 01:46:29.439
<v Speaker 1>there there she goes. It's all good gone.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that was. I don't know, just because there's

1987
01:46:33.600 --> 01:46:36.039
<v Speaker 3>not really any good explanation for any of this. I

1988
01:46:36.079 --> 01:46:39.319
<v Speaker 3>did want to after we, you know, go through this video,

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01:46:39.479 --> 01:46:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I do want to kind of go into the whole

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01:46:41.039 --> 01:46:44.960
<v Speaker 3>dragon line possible thing. Yes, because people say that there

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01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:48.439
<v Speaker 3>is some kind of correlation amongst all these like weird

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01:46:48.479 --> 01:46:52.119
<v Speaker 3>wonders of the world, then nobody has any explanation about.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, so let's listen in This is from

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01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:57.560
<v Speaker 4>Dark five Ancient Mysteries, and uh, the dude's going through

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01:46:57.560 --> 01:46:59.560
<v Speaker 4>a couple of examples of.

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01:46:59.640 --> 01:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Passable working theories.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we've already heard the one about it being some

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01:47:02.960 --> 01:47:05.319
<v Speaker 4>sort of a burial site or something like that. I

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01:47:05.319 --> 01:47:07.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't even I didn't even go that route, because that's

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01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:09.800
<v Speaker 4>that's just ridiculous to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever, But yeah, let's listen.

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01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:22.800
<v Speaker 2>In the Giants, the locals of Laos tell of a

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01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:26.079
<v Speaker 2>legend passed down by the elders from generation to generation

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01:47:26.520 --> 01:47:28.640
<v Speaker 2>and still believed by many of the Lao people to

2005
01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:32.560
<v Speaker 2>this day. The legend says that Laos was once home

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01:47:32.600 --> 01:47:35.359
<v Speaker 2>to a race of giants led by their king Quin Chung,

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01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:38.520
<v Speaker 2>who waged a long and hard war against an evil enemy,

2008
01:47:38.840 --> 01:47:45.359
<v Speaker 2>ultimately emerging victorious. To celebrate and toast his victory, vast

2009
01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:48.600
<v Speaker 2>quantities of a rice wine known as Laohai would be required.

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01:47:49.279 --> 01:47:51.359
<v Speaker 2>To brew and store the wine, the king of the

2011
01:47:51.359 --> 01:47:54.560
<v Speaker 2>giants created the huge jars from which they could also drink.

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01:47:56.920 --> 01:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>One of the greatest mysteries from modern researchers is in

2013
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:02.520
<v Speaker 2>the legios of how an early civilization could have managed

2014
01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to transport such immnts and heavy objects from the quarry

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01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:07.960
<v Speaker 2>to the resting place, a journey of up to ten

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01:48:08.039 --> 01:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>kilometers largely uphill. Some might say this supports the theory

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01:48:12.560 --> 01:48:15.119
<v Speaker 2>that the jars were once hewn by thirsty giants.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that's also an interesting point to make. They were

2019
01:48:21.079 --> 01:48:25.199
<v Speaker 4>carried uphill to their resting place. Right now, it would

2020
01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:27.760
<v Speaker 4>make more sense to me if they were quarried from

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01:48:27.960 --> 01:48:30.640
<v Speaker 4>up on top of the mountain and then rolled down

2022
01:48:30.680 --> 01:48:34.119
<v Speaker 4>to where they are currently. Bro, you're talking about carrying

2023
01:48:34.279 --> 01:48:39.680
<v Speaker 4>or dragging or rolling or something. These massive fourteen ton

2024
01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:45.920
<v Speaker 4>twelve ton eight ton jars up mountains. And it's not

2025
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:49.239
<v Speaker 4>like these are just clearcut mountains either. It's like jungleist mountains.

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01:48:50.039 --> 01:48:54.119
<v Speaker 4>It is insane to really, like logistically think about how

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01:48:54.119 --> 01:48:57.159
<v Speaker 4>they moved them. First off, how they carved them. Second,

2028
01:48:57.159 --> 01:48:59.560
<v Speaker 4>how do they move them from point A to point B. Now,

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01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:01.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying and this leads more credence to the

2030
01:49:01.199 --> 01:49:04.800
<v Speaker 4>giants theory. I understand that's a wild one, But Bro,

2031
01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:05.800
<v Speaker 4>what the hell.

2032
01:49:05.920 --> 01:49:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, were they created on the spot or were

2033
01:49:07.960 --> 01:49:10.720
<v Speaker 3>they created I mean I know that they probably at

2034
01:49:10.840 --> 01:49:14.600
<v Speaker 3>least got some of the material from far away, but

2035
01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:17.960
<v Speaker 3>were they crafted and molded into these pots on the

2036
01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:21.279
<v Speaker 3>spot where they where they lay or were they rolled uphill?

2037
01:49:21.319 --> 01:49:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Like what are they suggesting? Or they don't know.

2038
01:49:23.479 --> 01:49:25.880
<v Speaker 4>So, as of this moment, there has been with all

2039
01:49:25.920 --> 01:49:29.640
<v Speaker 4>the archaeological archaeological digs that they've done, they don't find

2040
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:33.000
<v Speaker 4>fragments of Like let's say you bring up like a

2041
01:49:33.079 --> 01:49:36.399
<v Speaker 4>cube of this stone that you're like carving out. Whenever

2042
01:49:36.439 --> 01:49:39.039
<v Speaker 4>you get to your location, you would find chunks of

2043
01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:42.479
<v Speaker 4>the rock. They're not finding chunks of any of the rocks.

2044
01:49:42.560 --> 01:49:45.239
<v Speaker 4>So it stands to reason, as of this moment that

2045
01:49:45.319 --> 01:49:49.319
<v Speaker 4>they were carved at the quarry and then brought to

2046
01:49:49.439 --> 01:49:52.479
<v Speaker 4>their location, which even if they were to be carved

2047
01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:57.279
<v Speaker 4>where they're at currently, that's still crazy. You're bringing a

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01:49:57.319 --> 01:50:00.600
<v Speaker 4>fourteen ton jar. Before you carved it was probably a

2049
01:50:00.680 --> 01:50:04.119
<v Speaker 4>twenty ton cube. How are you moving a twenty ton

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01:50:04.159 --> 01:50:09.119
<v Speaker 4>cube up mountains, jungleist mountains from the quarry to the location.

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01:50:09.279 --> 01:50:10.199
<v Speaker 1>That's also wild.

2052
01:50:11.199 --> 01:50:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is kind of strange.

2053
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:16.479
<v Speaker 4>And there's no evidence that these people were doing horseback

2054
01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:18.920
<v Speaker 4>activities at that time, either I should make a mention

2055
01:50:19.000 --> 01:50:22.319
<v Speaker 4>of that. So there's no takeaway all theories of horse

2056
01:50:22.399 --> 01:50:25.560
<v Speaker 4>drawn wagons and carriages and any of that that is

2057
01:50:25.720 --> 01:50:27.600
<v Speaker 4>not in the conversation as of this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Just strong motherfuckers. That's all.

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01:50:32.319 --> 01:50:34.119
<v Speaker 1>These cockstrong Southeast Asia.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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01:50:34.479 --> 01:50:34.720
<v Speaker 1>You know.

2062
01:50:35.239 --> 01:50:38.560
<v Speaker 4>I guess at Rice got a little extra protein to

2063
01:50:38.640 --> 01:50:42.079
<v Speaker 4>what we've been thinking. I guess anyway. All right, So

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01:50:42.119 --> 01:50:45.520
<v Speaker 4>now we're gonna get to the Indian jars. And this

2065
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:50.800
<v Speaker 4>isn't necessarily connected, but it is a working theory that

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01:50:50.880 --> 01:50:53.760
<v Speaker 4>some are saying might be what these jars were actually

2067
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:58.560
<v Speaker 4>used for, based off of historic precedents of another quote

2068
01:50:58.640 --> 01:51:01.840
<v Speaker 4>unquote similar city situation. I don't think they're similar, but

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<v Speaker 4>they're worth mentioning.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>The Indian jars. Approximately five hundred miles from the planet

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01:51:13.119 --> 01:51:16.960
<v Speaker 2>of Jars in India is the Assam Forest. In twenty twenty,

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01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:19.600
<v Speaker 2>a survey of the region found that the forest contained

2074
01:51:19.600 --> 01:51:28.840
<v Speaker 2>a number of large stone jars similar to those in Laos. Mysteriously,

2075
01:51:29.119 --> 01:51:31.600
<v Speaker 2>the jars being excavated in a Sam are made from

2076
01:51:31.600 --> 01:51:34.279
<v Speaker 2>a sandstone not known to be found near the site.

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<v Speaker 2>Researchers speculate that the jars may have been dragged great

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<v Speaker 2>distances and note that doing so would require a team

2079
01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:47.560
<v Speaker 2>of hundreds. With the Indian jars being such a recent discovery,

2080
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:51.279
<v Speaker 2>archaeologists have barely scratched the surface in their understanding, and

2081
01:51:51.319 --> 01:51:53.760
<v Speaker 2>they continue to discover more and more of these sites

2082
01:51:53.800 --> 01:51:58.000
<v Speaker 2>in Islam. They've also found inside the jars the impressions

2083
01:51:58.000 --> 01:52:00.720
<v Speaker 2>of the iron tools once used to carve them from boulders.

2084
01:52:02.079 --> 01:52:04.439
<v Speaker 2>It is unclear just how much the Indian jars have

2085
01:52:04.479 --> 01:52:06.760
<v Speaker 2>in common with those found on the Plane of Jars,

2086
01:52:07.159 --> 01:52:09.640
<v Speaker 2>but it has been noted by some researchers that they

2087
01:52:09.680 --> 01:52:14.680
<v Speaker 2>too contain cremated bone fragments. The secrets of the Assam

2088
01:52:14.760 --> 01:52:17.920
<v Speaker 2>region and its monolithic stone jars are yet to be revealed,

2089
01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:21.039
<v Speaker 2>as are the details regarding how they relate to their

2090
01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:22.039
<v Speaker 2>low counterparts.

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01:52:23.439 --> 01:52:28.199
<v Speaker 4>Okay, real quick, dude, these I don't think that they're comparative.

2092
01:52:28.840 --> 01:52:32.079
<v Speaker 4>These are way smaller than the ones that we have.

2093
01:52:32.119 --> 01:52:33.840
<v Speaker 1>In the Plane of Jars and Laos.

2094
01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean they're smaller even compared to the trees

2095
01:52:36.640 --> 01:52:38.079
<v Speaker 3>there exactly.

2096
01:52:38.199 --> 01:52:40.479
<v Speaker 4>And then not to mention, yes, so they're from sandstone

2097
01:52:40.520 --> 01:52:43.920
<v Speaker 4>not found in this region. They don't have any evidence

2098
01:52:43.920 --> 01:52:45.840
<v Speaker 4>to say that these are from like the same quarry

2099
01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:48.439
<v Speaker 4>as Laos or anything like that. But that's what I'm saying.

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01:52:48.479 --> 01:52:53.199
<v Speaker 4>It's another idea that they are saying kind of look similar.

2101
01:52:53.359 --> 01:52:56.479
<v Speaker 4>I feel like they're trying to compare apples to apples here.

2102
01:52:57.319 --> 01:52:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't think that it's so easy. I don't think

2103
01:52:59.760 --> 01:53:02.319
<v Speaker 4>that this is an actual apples to apples comparison.

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01:53:03.159 --> 01:53:07.359
<v Speaker 3>Dude. All right, So is it possible because uh, Loos

2105
01:53:07.439 --> 01:53:09.199
<v Speaker 3>is kind of right up against the ocean right there

2106
01:53:09.279 --> 01:53:13.119
<v Speaker 3>right you know, it's a landlocked country. Oh I thought that,

2107
01:53:13.359 --> 01:53:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Uh what what is the Indian Ocean on that side?

2108
01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh, the Gulf of Tonkin. But that's what that. You

2109
01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>have to go through Vietnam to get to them.

2110
01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:25.159
<v Speaker 3>So you got Golf of Tonkin, then you got Vietnam,

2111
01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:26.760
<v Speaker 3>then you got Laos going inland.

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01:53:27.359 --> 01:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hmmm.

2113
01:53:29.520 --> 01:53:31.479
<v Speaker 3>I mean, is it possible that maybe there was some

2114
01:53:31.560 --> 01:53:34.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of flood or crazy storm, or maybe the the

2115
01:53:34.760 --> 01:53:37.319
<v Speaker 3>water started to recede and this this used to be

2116
01:53:37.399 --> 01:53:40.720
<v Speaker 3>underwater just getting weird because it did have coral in it,

2117
01:53:40.720 --> 01:53:43.079
<v Speaker 3>it did have sand sandstone in it. I don't know

2118
01:53:43.119 --> 01:53:45.159
<v Speaker 3>if that's you know, from the ocean or whatever. But

2119
01:53:46.439 --> 01:53:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, just trying to think, like could it,

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01:53:48.840 --> 01:53:51.640
<v Speaker 3>could these be like oceanic remnants of sorts.

2121
01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:54.640
<v Speaker 4>If I'm not mistake, in this area is underwater somewhere

2122
01:53:54.640 --> 01:53:57.520
<v Speaker 4>around one of the ice ages, like it was way

2123
01:53:57.560 --> 01:53:59.560
<v Speaker 4>longer ago, way longer.

2124
01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:01.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

2125
01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Interesting, Okay, never mind, then I'll keep on the own speculating.

2126
01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:10.920
<v Speaker 1>The Secret War.

2127
01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Study of the Jars and Laos has been hindered by

2128
01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:20.760
<v Speaker 2>the terrible remnants of a little known conflict known as

2129
01:54:20.760 --> 01:54:25.600
<v Speaker 2>the Secret War or the Laosian Civil War. Between nineteen

2130
01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:28.359
<v Speaker 2>sixty four and nineteen sixty nine, the plane was the

2131
01:54:28.359 --> 01:54:31.399
<v Speaker 2>subject of extended explosive bombardment by the United States Air

2132
01:54:31.439 --> 01:54:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Force targeting North Vietnamese and Pucket Lao communist armies in

2133
01:54:35.319 --> 01:54:38.520
<v Speaker 2>the area. During this period, more than two hundred and

2134
01:54:38.520 --> 01:54:44.520
<v Speaker 2>sixty two million anti personnel cluster bombs were dropped. The

2135
01:54:44.600 --> 01:54:48.000
<v Speaker 2>damage to the Jars was substantial. Many now lay broken

2136
01:54:48.119 --> 01:54:51.560
<v Speaker 2>or overturned in craters created by the explosives, and the

2137
01:54:51.600 --> 01:54:54.760
<v Speaker 2>consequences of this bombardment still loom over the land and

2138
01:54:54.800 --> 01:54:59.479
<v Speaker 2>its local population today. Of those two hundred and sixty

2139
01:54:59.520 --> 01:55:02.840
<v Speaker 2>two million cluster bombs dropped, an estimated eighty million did

2140
01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:05.760
<v Speaker 2>not explode, and many lay on and around the Plane

2141
01:55:05.760 --> 01:55:08.960
<v Speaker 2>of jars, posing a fatal threat to anyone who strays

2142
01:55:08.960 --> 01:55:12.960
<v Speaker 2>off the paths known to be safe. Movement in the

2143
01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:16.840
<v Speaker 2>area is heavily restricted by the unexploded bombs. Efforts to

2144
01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:20.640
<v Speaker 2>clear bombs are slow but ongoing. Seven jar sites have

2145
01:55:20.720 --> 01:55:23.920
<v Speaker 2>now been cleared, but estimates suggest that fewer than ten

2146
01:55:23.920 --> 01:55:28.000
<v Speaker 2>percent of the jars have been formally investigated. Despite the

2147
01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:31.680
<v Speaker 2>ongoing efforts to rid the plane of unexploded munitions, dozens

2148
01:55:31.680 --> 01:55:35.560
<v Speaker 2>of Lausians tragically perish each year. Interest in the Plane

2149
01:55:35.560 --> 01:55:38.000
<v Speaker 2>of Jars has never waned and it remains one of

2150
01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:42.159
<v Speaker 2>the most important sites for archaeological research on the planet. Consequently,

2151
01:55:42.199 --> 01:55:44.960
<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen, it was named a World Heritage Site

2152
01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:51.439
<v Speaker 2>by UNESCO. With advanced methods such as radiocarbon dating, geochemistry

2153
01:55:51.479 --> 01:55:55.239
<v Speaker 2>and ground penetrating radar, modern research continues to reveal more

2154
01:55:55.239 --> 01:56:00.880
<v Speaker 2>about the jars, their purpose, and their creators. This contemporary

2155
01:56:00.920 --> 01:56:03.560
<v Speaker 2>research finds that human burials took place on the Plane

2156
01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:07.359
<v Speaker 2>of Jars, with bodies being buried alongside the jars sometime

2157
01:56:07.399 --> 01:56:09.720
<v Speaker 2>between seven hundred and twelve hundred years ago.

2158
01:56:11.520 --> 01:56:14.199
<v Speaker 4>So you see what I'm saying here like this was

2159
01:56:14.239 --> 01:56:17.600
<v Speaker 4>what was above ground, and then they dug and found

2160
01:56:17.640 --> 01:56:21.960
<v Speaker 4>another two feet into this jar. So it's not like there's,

2161
01:56:22.199 --> 01:56:25.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, something way more underneath this thing. But yeah,

2162
01:56:25.319 --> 01:56:28.399
<v Speaker 4>some of them have been They're sinking into the ground

2163
01:56:28.439 --> 01:56:29.079
<v Speaker 4>for sure.

2164
01:56:29.039 --> 01:56:32.279
<v Speaker 3>With dust and rain and dirt, and yeah, I get

2165
01:56:32.319 --> 01:56:33.600
<v Speaker 3>that exactly.

2166
01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:36.560
<v Speaker 4>But again, dude, look that's just one of them. This

2167
01:56:36.680 --> 01:56:38.640
<v Speaker 4>jar over here, This jar over here, This looks like

2168
01:56:38.640 --> 01:56:40.960
<v Speaker 4>a lid of some type. This one's broken up. It's

2169
01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:43.840
<v Speaker 4>there's no rhyme or reason as to why some of

2170
01:56:43.840 --> 01:56:47.359
<v Speaker 4>them are larger than others, why some of them are

2171
01:56:47.439 --> 01:56:50.960
<v Speaker 4>located here and some are located there. It's all over

2172
01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:53.800
<v Speaker 4>the place, dude. But anyway, let's keep going.

2173
01:56:56.960 --> 01:56:59.279
<v Speaker 2>This suggests that the plane of jars has held ritual

2174
01:56:59.319 --> 01:57:04.119
<v Speaker 2>significance multiple cultures over an extended period. It has also

2175
01:57:04.159 --> 01:57:06.479
<v Speaker 2>been found in recent years that while most of the

2176
01:57:06.560 --> 01:57:09.479
<v Speaker 2>jars are carved from sandstone, others are made from much

2177
01:57:09.520 --> 01:57:14.960
<v Speaker 2>harder stone, including limestone and granite. One working theory, supported

2178
01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:17.000
<v Speaker 2>by some evidence, is that the jar has had a

2179
01:57:17.000 --> 01:57:19.840
<v Speaker 2>practical use. They may have been designed to catch rain

2180
01:57:19.880 --> 01:57:21.199
<v Speaker 2>water during monsoon season.

2181
01:57:22.119 --> 01:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, real quick rain water during monsoon season. Big dog.

2182
01:57:26.239 --> 01:57:28.319
<v Speaker 4>That is the water that is inside of one of

2183
01:57:28.319 --> 01:57:33.199
<v Speaker 4>these jars. I seriously doubt that somebody is going to

2184
01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:34.199
<v Speaker 4>be drinking.

2185
01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:34.159
<v Speaker 1>Out of that.

2186
01:57:36.399 --> 01:57:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that looks kind of gross.

2187
01:57:39.279 --> 01:57:42.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't see it, especially seeing as how monsoon season

2188
01:57:42.159 --> 01:57:43.119
<v Speaker 1>is like half the year.

2189
01:57:44.800 --> 01:57:48.199
<v Speaker 4>You have water regardless, it's falling from the sky, regardless

2190
01:57:48.199 --> 01:57:49.119
<v Speaker 4>if you wanted to or not.

2191
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Anyway, let's keep going for use.

2192
01:57:52.520 --> 01:57:56.319
<v Speaker 2>By travelers passing through later in the year. A more

2193
01:57:56.359 --> 01:57:58.920
<v Speaker 2>macab explanation is that the jars were part of a

2194
01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:02.720
<v Speaker 2>unique burial tradition. It was customary in certain cultures for

2195
01:58:02.800 --> 01:58:05.680
<v Speaker 2>dead bodies to be placed above ground to decompose and

2196
01:58:05.800 --> 01:58:08.720
<v Speaker 2>dry out, allowing the soul to make its transition to

2197
01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the spiritual world before a final cremation or burial. This

2198
01:58:13.680 --> 01:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>theory has been lent weight by another recent study which

2199
01:58:16.520 --> 01:58:19.720
<v Speaker 2>found eighteen more examples of human burial amongst the jars,

2200
01:58:20.119 --> 01:58:24.920
<v Speaker 2>sixty percent of which were infants or babies. Undoubtedly, as

2201
01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:28.520
<v Speaker 2>technology in the field of archaeological study progresses and as

2202
01:58:28.520 --> 01:58:32.199
<v Speaker 2>the remaining munitions are cleared, more information will continue to

2203
01:58:32.239 --> 01:58:33.000
<v Speaker 2>present itself.

2204
01:58:34.119 --> 01:58:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so eighteen burial remains were found out of two

2205
01:58:40.800 --> 01:58:47.199
<v Speaker 4>thousand jars, eighteen, So that's less than one percent of

2206
01:58:47.239 --> 01:58:50.680
<v Speaker 4>the jars we can confirm or used in some.

2207
01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Sort of a burial practice.

2208
01:58:52.600 --> 01:58:55.520
<v Speaker 4>That's just to me personally, I'm speaking on behalf of

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01:58:55.600 --> 01:58:58.760
<v Speaker 4>Jacob here. If a glass is one percent full, would

2210
01:58:58.760 --> 01:58:59.920
<v Speaker 4>you call it full?

2211
01:59:00.920 --> 01:59:01.079
<v Speaker 1>No?

2212
01:59:01.439 --> 01:59:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't.

2213
01:59:02.159 --> 01:59:05.119
<v Speaker 4>So if one percent of the jars were used in

2214
01:59:05.199 --> 01:59:10.199
<v Speaker 4>burial practices, would you say that these were obviously burial sites?

2215
01:59:11.720 --> 01:59:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm I don't know. I mean, how long

2216
01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:17.720
<v Speaker 3>does it take for bone to like disintegrate?

2217
01:59:19.640 --> 01:59:22.880
<v Speaker 4>It depends on the environment, right, So, I mean the

2218
01:59:22.960 --> 01:59:26.039
<v Speaker 4>mummies in Egypt, there are still bones that are wrapped

2219
01:59:26.119 --> 01:59:28.600
<v Speaker 4>up and skin that are wrapped up in the mumification

2220
01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:32.079
<v Speaker 4>garbs in our sarcophagus, and they have been untouched and

2221
01:59:32.119 --> 01:59:33.880
<v Speaker 4>so we can see those. That's how he did an

2222
01:59:33.960 --> 01:59:36.159
<v Speaker 4>X ray of King Tut and we know he had

2223
01:59:36.199 --> 01:59:37.920
<v Speaker 4>a cleft f lip and a club foot and hip

2224
01:59:37.920 --> 01:59:39.920
<v Speaker 4>displasia and all of these things because of the massive

2225
01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:44.119
<v Speaker 4>inbreeding that Egypt is so well known for. But you

2226
01:59:44.600 --> 01:59:48.039
<v Speaker 4>in the jungles, not much, not much at all. I mean,

2227
01:59:48.079 --> 01:59:50.520
<v Speaker 4>hell I you remember I was telling you about the

2228
01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:55.199
<v Speaker 4>body farm that the three letter agencies use so in

2229
01:59:55.560 --> 01:59:59.319
<v Speaker 4>Louisiana Bayu environment. If you take a body and you

2230
01:59:59.399 --> 02:00:03.880
<v Speaker 4>bury it eighteen inches below the surface, in a matter

2231
02:00:03.920 --> 02:00:08.720
<v Speaker 4>of two weeks, it's gone, bone, teeth, everything. And again

2232
02:00:08.760 --> 02:00:10.479
<v Speaker 4>y'all could disagree with that. If you want do your

2233
02:00:10.560 --> 02:00:12.720
<v Speaker 4>research into the body farm and the findings, look at

2234
02:00:12.720 --> 02:00:18.560
<v Speaker 4>corner reports. It's because of the level if you combined heat, humidity,

2235
02:00:18.760 --> 02:00:20.920
<v Speaker 4>the type of insects that live at that depth, the

2236
02:00:20.960 --> 02:00:23.079
<v Speaker 4>type of rodents that dig down to that deep, or

2237
02:00:23.079 --> 02:00:23.680
<v Speaker 4>anything else.

2238
02:00:24.520 --> 02:00:26.800
<v Speaker 1>That's all you need to go. Certain places, you.

2239
02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:28.720
<v Speaker 4>Need to go deeper, certain places you can leave it

2240
02:00:28.760 --> 02:00:30.680
<v Speaker 4>on the surface and they'll decompose on its own.

2241
02:00:30.880 --> 02:00:34.800
<v Speaker 1>It depends on the location inside of.

2242
02:00:34.760 --> 02:00:39.119
<v Speaker 4>A stone jar with a lid, which most of I

2243
02:00:39.159 --> 02:00:41.039
<v Speaker 4>would say that most of these probably had a lid

2244
02:00:41.039 --> 02:00:43.000
<v Speaker 4>at one point in time, but they have been lost

2245
02:00:43.079 --> 02:00:46.760
<v Speaker 4>or destroyed or whatever the case is. I feel like

2246
02:00:46.840 --> 02:00:52.279
<v Speaker 4>bone wouldn't disintegrate in an enclosed stone jar in that manner.

2247
02:00:52.279 --> 02:00:55.279
<v Speaker 4>It just the whole thing about these being used for

2248
02:00:55.359 --> 02:00:57.880
<v Speaker 4>burials makes no sense to me.

2249
02:00:58.479 --> 02:01:02.279
<v Speaker 3>Well, what fascinated me a little bit is the lids,

2250
02:01:02.960 --> 02:01:05.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, because there seemed to be some kind of

2251
02:01:06.840 --> 02:01:10.760
<v Speaker 3>geometric or some kind of weird like concentric lines on

2252
02:01:10.840 --> 02:01:14.880
<v Speaker 3>top of them. From what you showed earlier and just

2253
02:01:15.039 --> 02:01:18.000
<v Speaker 3>from you know, my short amount of research, just in

2254
02:01:18.039 --> 02:01:20.760
<v Speaker 3>my interest in this while we've been talking about it.

2255
02:01:20.760 --> 02:01:26.680
<v Speaker 3>It's there's something called a triscillian line. So it had

2256
02:01:26.760 --> 02:01:30.239
<v Speaker 3>three concentric lines on it, and then there seemed to

2257
02:01:30.239 --> 02:01:32.680
<v Speaker 3>be some kind of symbol in the center of it.

2258
02:01:33.279 --> 02:01:37.560
<v Speaker 3>And so a triscillion is a figure consisting of three

2259
02:01:37.680 --> 02:01:41.439
<v Speaker 3>curved lines or branches or three stylized human arms or

2260
02:01:41.520 --> 02:01:45.720
<v Speaker 3>legs radiating from a common center. So I was like,

2261
02:01:45.840 --> 02:01:49.479
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty interesting. But it's even more interesting because and

2262
02:01:49.560 --> 02:01:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I know that this isn't Celtic by any means, but

2263
02:01:51.640 --> 02:01:54.279
<v Speaker 3>we'll get to the Hinduism and Buddhism type stuff. But

2264
02:01:54.359 --> 02:01:59.000
<v Speaker 3>in Celtic tradition, the triskelion symbolizes life, death and rebirth

2265
02:01:59.439 --> 02:02:02.279
<v Speaker 3>or past as in future or the three realms, which

2266
02:02:02.319 --> 02:02:05.680
<v Speaker 3>would be earth, sea, and sky. So I don't know,

2267
02:02:05.720 --> 02:02:09.319
<v Speaker 3>maybe there was something there. In Hinduism and Buddhism, you

2268
02:02:09.399 --> 02:02:12.239
<v Speaker 3>have the triple spirals, which I mean they said that

2269
02:02:12.239 --> 02:02:15.640
<v Speaker 3>they found Buddhists little figurines in there, right, So you

2270
02:02:15.680 --> 02:02:20.680
<v Speaker 3>have triple spirals or rotating shapes that symbolize motion, energy,

2271
02:02:20.720 --> 02:02:25.960
<v Speaker 3>and reincarnation. So maybe the reason why you only find

2272
02:02:26.159 --> 02:02:28.800
<v Speaker 3>a couple of bodies in there, maybe those are the

2273
02:02:28.840 --> 02:02:32.159
<v Speaker 3>ones that couldn't reincarnate. I don't know, I mean, just

2274
02:02:32.239 --> 02:02:34.479
<v Speaker 3>getting weird here, throwing shit at the wall sea what sticks.

2275
02:02:34.800 --> 02:02:38.239
<v Speaker 4>But like, but if reincarnation is real, then the bodies remain.

2276
02:02:38.359 --> 02:02:40.640
<v Speaker 4>The spirit is what reincarnates.

2277
02:02:40.000 --> 02:02:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, and that's what makes it weird. I mean,

2278
02:02:42.680 --> 02:02:45.880
<v Speaker 3>but that's where I go, like, could this be kind

2279
02:02:45.920 --> 02:02:49.840
<v Speaker 3>of a death and rebirth kind of thing, not necessarily

2280
02:02:49.880 --> 02:02:52.680
<v Speaker 3>a reincarnation, but a death and rebirth kind of ritual

2281
02:02:52.800 --> 02:02:58.479
<v Speaker 3>of sorts similar to I mean they have them, you know,

2282
02:02:58.680 --> 02:03:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Like that's what they used to do back in those

2283
02:03:00.640 --> 02:03:04.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of ritualistic days, where you'd go through the death

2284
02:03:04.079 --> 02:03:09.000
<v Speaker 3>ceremony to be reborn, so to say, Right, And I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, maybe that's maybe that's what it was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea. This is fucking mind boggling to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, dude. So what's on screen right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Again, for anybody who's just listening, they would like to

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<v Speaker 4>see this Patreon, that is where you'll go. I'm telling you,

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02:03:23.239 --> 02:03:25.279
<v Speaker 4>you're gonna want to see these things. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>catalog of all of the artifacts that were found. This

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<v Speaker 4>is just site one, Okay, so they have each site

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<v Speaker 4>and it's all categorized and you can see the pictures

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<v Speaker 4>of it. These circles are called bone circles. Those are

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<v Speaker 4>carved out of human bone. We have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>pottery shards, you know, little tools, a little smaller vessels

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<v Speaker 4>that are inside of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go to the next page and see what they

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<v Speaker 4>got here, more broken shards of things. It looks like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if that's a jawbone or if that

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<v Speaker 4>is some sort of a tool of some type. It's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of dirty looking, so you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>We got little pendants looks like a shark tooth again

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02:04:07.479 --> 02:04:09.439
<v Speaker 4>this I mean they were close enough to the coast

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<v Speaker 4>where they would go.

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<v Speaker 1>There a lot of beads that were found.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's pretty incredible the the painstaking amount of research

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02:04:18.760 --> 02:04:21.680
<v Speaker 4>that has been done into this area for us to

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02:04:21.840 --> 02:04:24.880
<v Speaker 4>know nothing about it like that is crazy. We got

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<v Speaker 4>some arrowheads over here, looks like bronze arrowheads that that

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02:04:29.760 --> 02:04:33.960
<v Speaker 4>looks like a necklace or some sort of a relic

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<v Speaker 4>of some type. To be worn clay cups and jars

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<v Speaker 4>more broken. You know, remains of vessels of some type.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a type of bracelet of some type,

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02:04:47.399 --> 02:04:49.039
<v Speaker 4>some little trinket over here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it is incredible to me, dude. So but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>So to say that some of them were used in

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<v Speaker 4>burial practices, Okay, I can believe that they have found bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>They have found urns of burial remains.

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<v Speaker 4>These two over here, these are urns where they believe

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<v Speaker 4>they have bodily remains inside of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was found near the jars. But this wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>found inside the jars.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So with all of that, let's go into some of

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<v Speaker 4>the theories about the plane of jars. We've covered some

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<v Speaker 4>of them and some of them we have not. This

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<v Speaker 4>is from DISCOVERYUK dot com. So Planes of Jars theories.

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<v Speaker 4>The field of jars in Laws's archaeological marvel has posed

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02:05:32.159 --> 02:05:35.720
<v Speaker 4>numerous questions that remain largely unanswered. While several theories have

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02:05:35.760 --> 02:05:39.760
<v Speaker 4>been proposed, none have been definitively proven. Storage for food

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02:05:39.960 --> 02:05:42.439
<v Speaker 4>or wine. One of the most common theories is that

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02:05:42.479 --> 02:05:45.159
<v Speaker 4>the jars were used for storing food or wine. This

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02:05:45.279 --> 02:05:47.960
<v Speaker 4>theory is grounded in the idea that such large containers

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02:05:48.000 --> 02:05:52.039
<v Speaker 4>would have been ideal for storing surplus grains or for

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02:05:52.159 --> 02:05:56.800
<v Speaker 4>fermenting and storing rice wine. Again, I see where they're

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02:05:56.840 --> 02:06:00.039
<v Speaker 4>going with this, But you would have some sort of

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02:06:00.039 --> 02:06:03.359
<v Speaker 4>of uh, some sort of a sign that that was

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<v Speaker 4>what these were used for.

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<v Speaker 3>Some also that would state that, yeah, I mean some

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02:06:07.680 --> 02:06:10.159
<v Speaker 3>kind of scraping along the walls or at the bottom,

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02:06:10.239 --> 02:06:11.119
<v Speaker 3>but there isn't that.

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02:06:11.840 --> 02:06:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Not to mention the archaeology.

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02:06:13.600 --> 02:06:16.279
<v Speaker 4>The archaeologist who's like leading this study heard the theory

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02:06:16.279 --> 02:06:18.960
<v Speaker 4>and is like, you know, this is not a good

2349
02:06:19.079 --> 02:06:23.079
<v Speaker 4>vessel for fermentation, like that if for fermentation you need

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02:06:23.119 --> 02:06:24.039
<v Speaker 4>an airtight seal.

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02:06:24.119 --> 02:06:27.079
<v Speaker 3>It seems very porous, very porous.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, But also unless these jar lids were so perfectly

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02:06:32.039 --> 02:06:34.319
<v Speaker 4>formed that they could fit with an air tight seal,

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02:06:34.399 --> 02:06:36.960
<v Speaker 4>that is that's not you see what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't make a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Sense, right. I imagine if it rained, water was still

2357
02:06:41.520 --> 02:06:44.199
<v Speaker 3>finding its way in there, even exactly.

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02:06:46.039 --> 02:06:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Burial or funeral use.

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<v Speaker 4>Another widely supported theory is that these megalithic stone jars

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02:06:51.520 --> 02:06:55.680
<v Speaker 4>were used for funerary practices. Archaeological evidence including the discovery

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02:06:55.680 --> 02:06:58.680
<v Speaker 4>of human remains and burial goods in and around some

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02:06:58.720 --> 02:07:01.399
<v Speaker 4>of the jars, support this theory. It's believed by some

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02:07:01.479 --> 02:07:03.479
<v Speaker 4>that the jars might have been used to expose the

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02:07:03.520 --> 02:07:06.960
<v Speaker 4>dead temporarily before their final burial, a practice known in

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02:07:07.039 --> 02:07:11.840
<v Speaker 4>archaeology as second burial. And again, okay, I could at

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02:07:11.920 --> 02:07:14.720
<v Speaker 4>least understand the chain of events on that one, but

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02:07:14.800 --> 02:07:19.600
<v Speaker 4>you've only found evidence at eighteen jars that that might

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02:07:19.680 --> 02:07:21.880
<v Speaker 4>be what they were used for out of two thousand

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02:07:21.960 --> 02:07:25.880
<v Speaker 4>confirmed jars. I got a hard time putting those pieces

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<v Speaker 4>together in my head.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have a problem with that one too. I mean,

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02:07:30.119 --> 02:07:31.880
<v Speaker 3>it's cool, you know, that would be cool if that

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<v Speaker 3>was the case. I mean, maybe this was the Eastern

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02:07:36.680 --> 02:07:39.920
<v Speaker 3>way of you know, of what the Egyptians were doing.

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02:07:41.159 --> 02:07:45.279
<v Speaker 4>I mean maybe, But again, there'd be some other remains,

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02:07:45.359 --> 02:07:47.960
<v Speaker 4>and most of these remains weren't found inside the jar.

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02:07:48.680 --> 02:07:50.680
<v Speaker 4>Some of the jars had the charring inside to show

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02:07:50.680 --> 02:07:53.439
<v Speaker 4>that they were trying to use it for like a crematorium.

2379
02:07:53.800 --> 02:07:56.880
<v Speaker 4>But most of the conversation about cremator remains and stuff

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02:07:56.920 --> 02:07:59.880
<v Speaker 4>come from a cave a little ways away.

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<v Speaker 1>From the jars.

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02:08:01.399 --> 02:08:06.000
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, if one then the other doesn't necessarily

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02:08:06.079 --> 02:08:09.119
<v Speaker 4>line up here. Maybe it's possible that they were burning

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02:08:09.159 --> 02:08:11.439
<v Speaker 4>them in the cave and then bringing the burn remains

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02:08:11.479 --> 02:08:13.680
<v Speaker 4>back to the jars for final resting or whatever the

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02:08:13.680 --> 02:08:17.920
<v Speaker 4>case was, but that's not as clear cut as what

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02:08:17.960 --> 02:08:19.039
<v Speaker 4>they're making it out to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Then, of course collection of rainwater, which again forests

2389
02:08:26.720 --> 02:08:30.319
<v Speaker 3>not not really something that would work.

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<v Speaker 4>Some scholars process or sorry, some scholars propose that the

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<v Speaker 4>jars were used to collect and store rainwater for caravan

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02:08:37.079 --> 02:08:40.520
<v Speaker 4>travelers moving along the ancient and long forgotten trade routes.

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<v Speaker 4>This theory aligns with the strategic locations of the plans

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02:08:43.880 --> 02:08:47.479
<v Speaker 4>of jar sites, often found on elevated areas or along

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02:08:47.520 --> 02:08:52.199
<v Speaker 4>potential travel routes throughout the region. Again, elevated, dude, they're

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<v Speaker 4>on top of hills and on top of mountains. This

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02:08:55.279 --> 02:08:58.520
<v Speaker 4>took hundreds, if not thousands of dudes to move from

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<v Speaker 4>point A to point B. Who had I mean, they

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<v Speaker 4>have beasts of burden, right, They have like oxen and

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02:09:03.279 --> 02:09:06.159
<v Speaker 4>yacks and not Yacks's more than the mountains of Lake Tibet.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what I'm saying, They have like their

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02:09:07.600 --> 02:09:09.880
<v Speaker 4>version of animals that they could use for this purpose.

2403
02:09:10.680 --> 02:09:13.479
<v Speaker 4>But even still, that is a tall order to say

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02:09:13.479 --> 02:09:17.560
<v Speaker 4>that they did that two thousand times for water collection.

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02:09:18.039 --> 02:09:19.840
<v Speaker 4>So you're telling me that the people that have lived

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02:09:19.840 --> 02:09:22.479
<v Speaker 4>in this area since the beginning of time have found

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02:09:22.520 --> 02:09:26.800
<v Speaker 4>no better way to collect rainwater other than carving stone jars.

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<v Speaker 3>What And if that's the case, you would find like

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02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:37.520
<v Speaker 3>much older remnants of maybe housing utensils or some people

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02:09:37.640 --> 02:09:40.319
<v Speaker 3>like living in that specific area around here. And I

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02:09:40.359 --> 02:09:41.840
<v Speaker 3>know that they can't really get to a lot of

2412
02:09:41.840 --> 02:09:44.800
<v Speaker 3>that because of all the undetonated bombs and whatnot. But

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02:09:45.359 --> 02:09:47.279
<v Speaker 3>even still, that's not what they're finding, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, exactly. It doesn't make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Then there's another one, trade route markers, building on the

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02:09:53.159 --> 02:09:56.000
<v Speaker 4>idea of caravan travelers. Another theory suggests that the plane

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02:09:56.039 --> 02:09:59.760
<v Speaker 4>of jars was a part of a more extensive trade network, specifically,

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<v Speaker 4>according to Madeleine Kolani, the trade of salt in the

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02:10:05.760 --> 02:10:11.000
<v Speaker 4>region Salt. This is supported by the discovery of items

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<v Speaker 4>such as beads and ornaments from different regions, possibly indicating

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02:10:14.199 --> 02:10:17.800
<v Speaker 4>some level of trade and cultural exchange. The jars themselves,

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<v Speaker 4>under this theory, could have been central to the trade network,

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02:10:20.439 --> 02:10:24.119
<v Speaker 4>perhaps being the Macong River basin and Gulf of Tonkin.

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<v Speaker 4>I could understand this being a portion of the trade route,

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02:10:30.319 --> 02:10:33.319
<v Speaker 4>for sure. I get this. You're still going uphill to

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02:10:33.359 --> 02:10:35.840
<v Speaker 4>get to these things. It would make way more sense

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02:10:35.840 --> 02:10:38.399
<v Speaker 4>that you would have trade along river banks, not on

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02:10:38.479 --> 02:10:40.079
<v Speaker 4>top of mountains.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you think about it, I mean, and I

2430
02:10:43.239 --> 02:10:45.600
<v Speaker 3>don't know what you know. I mean, I know that

2431
02:10:45.640 --> 02:10:48.399
<v Speaker 3>there was like spiritual little Buddhist figurines in there, but

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02:10:48.680 --> 02:10:52.720
<v Speaker 3>that even like you said earlier, like the Buddhism wasn't

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02:10:52.760 --> 02:10:56.800
<v Speaker 3>even like it wasn't even around four thousand years ago, right,

2434
02:10:56.960 --> 02:10:59.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, or thirty five hundred or three thousand years

2435
02:10:59.279 --> 02:11:01.760
<v Speaker 3>ago or whatever like that only started back in like

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much around the time that Jesus died, right or

2437
02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:06.520
<v Speaker 3>around thereabouts.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to remember. I looked that up once upon

2439
02:11:08.920 --> 02:11:11.760
<v Speaker 4>a time. When did Buddhism really begin? When did the

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<v Speaker 4>Buddha like break off from the Vedics? Because he was

2441
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<v Speaker 4>a if I'm not mistaken, he was a guru in

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02:11:17.560 --> 02:11:20.920
<v Speaker 4>Hinduism or at least some type of the Vedic philosophy,

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02:11:21.359 --> 02:11:24.439
<v Speaker 4>and then he broke off, went more north and more east,

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02:11:24.640 --> 02:11:27.680
<v Speaker 4>and then founded what we would now call Buddhism.

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02:11:27.720 --> 02:11:29.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to remember the year in which that took place.

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02:11:29.880 --> 02:11:34.000
<v Speaker 3>So Buddha, also known as Siddhartha Gautama, is believed to

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02:11:34.039 --> 02:11:38.880
<v Speaker 3>have lived around the sixth to fourth century BC. Interesting,

2448
02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:40.439
<v Speaker 3>but when was Buddhism.

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02:11:42.079 --> 02:11:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean.

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02:11:42.560 --> 02:11:46.199
<v Speaker 4>Buddhism in practice came from his followers, So I mean

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02:11:46.239 --> 02:11:48.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm assuming as he went he taught and he like

2452
02:11:49.079 --> 02:11:52.359
<v Speaker 4>developed his own following and disciples and all of these things.

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02:11:52.399 --> 02:11:55.640
<v Speaker 4>But so that's my point. So fifth and sixth century BC,

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02:11:56.000 --> 02:11:59.560
<v Speaker 4>it's old. I'm not denying that at all. But also

2455
02:12:00.720 --> 02:12:04.800
<v Speaker 4>the jars were carved a thousand to two thousand years

2456
02:12:04.800 --> 02:12:05.920
<v Speaker 4>before he was alive.

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02:12:06.319 --> 02:12:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I thought that. I thought that Buddha Buddhism started

2458
02:12:10.000 --> 02:12:14.399
<v Speaker 3>around like the turn of the century, you know, around

2459
02:12:14.439 --> 02:12:16.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, year zero or whatever. But yeah, it says

2460
02:12:16.960 --> 02:12:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Buddhism was founded in late sixth century BC, So that

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02:12:21.119 --> 02:12:24.079
<v Speaker 3>was whenever Buddha was around, or the original Buddha, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was actually several Buddhas, but he's like

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02:12:26.479 --> 02:12:26.960
<v Speaker 3>the first.

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<v Speaker 4>Technically, according to their beliefs, anybody can become a Buddha. Right,

2465
02:12:32.680 --> 02:12:35.119
<v Speaker 4>it just like a level of enlightenment and all of that.

2466
02:12:35.239 --> 02:12:37.840
<v Speaker 4>But right, and I knew that it was older than

2467
02:12:38.119 --> 02:12:40.279
<v Speaker 4>like Jesus, for instance, which is why whenever I hear

2468
02:12:40.279 --> 02:12:43.359
<v Speaker 4>people say like, oh, Buddha had christ consciousness, it's like, bro,

2469
02:12:43.760 --> 02:12:47.399
<v Speaker 4>that's that's not even in the same conversations.

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02:12:46.720 --> 02:12:48.159
<v Speaker 3>Buddha consciousness is more likely.

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02:12:48.600 --> 02:12:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh shut up.

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02:12:50.359 --> 02:12:53.840
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, my point is that doesn't make sense. Buddhism

2473
02:12:53.920 --> 02:12:59.279
<v Speaker 4>started centuries, uh a millennia after these jars were carved,

2474
02:12:59.640 --> 02:13:02.800
<v Speaker 4>so say that they had something in that regard also,

2475
02:13:02.840 --> 02:13:05.000
<v Speaker 4>that makes no sense. And like the bootest figurines that

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02:13:05.039 --> 02:13:07.840
<v Speaker 4>you see, like, sure they've been used by people since

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02:13:07.880 --> 02:13:11.560
<v Speaker 4>they were carved, but I don't see a direct connection

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02:13:11.760 --> 02:13:15.399
<v Speaker 4>to the trade network. I don't see a direct connection

2479
02:13:15.479 --> 02:13:18.520
<v Speaker 4>to water cisterns. I don't see a direct connection to

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02:13:19.239 --> 02:13:23.039
<v Speaker 4>burial sites of some type, you know, not really.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm trying to look up when dn Buddhism. When

2482
02:13:30.720 --> 02:13:34.119
<v Speaker 3>was Buddhism h startopular in Laos?

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02:13:34.199 --> 02:13:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe okay, you can look into that.

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02:13:39.039 --> 02:13:41.840
<v Speaker 4>When did Buddhism make its way more south as far

2485
02:13:41.880 --> 02:13:43.680
<v Speaker 4>as the Asian continent is concerned.

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02:13:46.000 --> 02:13:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but even.

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02:13:46.800 --> 02:13:49.880
<v Speaker 4>Still, it would be well, after these stone jars were

2488
02:13:49.920 --> 02:13:51.520
<v Speaker 4>carved and put in place.

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02:13:53.520 --> 02:13:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, what I thought it was like, uh, wasn't it

2490
02:13:57.079 --> 02:14:00.640
<v Speaker 3>four thousand BC? That whenever they suggest that these things were.

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<v Speaker 4>Created the early assessments as of this moment, some of

2492
02:14:05.119 --> 02:14:08.840
<v Speaker 4>them three thousand BC, some of them like one thousand BC,

2493
02:14:09.439 --> 02:14:10.800
<v Speaker 4>so to that point, but.

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02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:13.680
<v Speaker 3>It was alive and four fucking thousand.

2495
02:14:13.319 --> 02:14:17.279
<v Speaker 1>BC before five hundred BC.

2496
02:14:18.039 --> 02:14:19.479
<v Speaker 3>No, it wasn't five hundred BC.

2497
02:14:19.960 --> 02:14:24.920
<v Speaker 1>That's so what you just said six to fifth century BC, six.

2498
02:14:24.880 --> 02:14:29.199
<v Speaker 3>To fifth century BC. So what sixth century BC is

2499
02:14:29.439 --> 02:14:30.520
<v Speaker 3>six thousand BC?

2500
02:14:30.800 --> 02:14:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Right? A century is one hundred years? My boy?

2501
02:14:33.039 --> 02:14:34.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I am tripping.

2502
02:14:35.039 --> 02:14:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So when you say six thousand years, it's like

2503
02:14:37.439 --> 02:14:38.279
<v Speaker 1>you mean six.

2504
02:14:38.159 --> 02:14:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I am all the way fucked right now, you're right,

2505
02:14:40.560 --> 02:14:44.159
<v Speaker 3>you're right, yeah. But even still, Buddhism became popular in

2506
02:14:44.239 --> 02:14:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Laos starting from the seventh to eighth centuries AD, so after,

2507
02:14:49.119 --> 02:14:52.640
<v Speaker 3>way after, So that would be that would just point

2508
02:14:52.640 --> 02:14:55.680
<v Speaker 3>to the people of that time, not necessarily the people

2509
02:14:55.680 --> 02:14:57.800
<v Speaker 3>that created them exactly.

2510
02:14:57.840 --> 02:14:58.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's my point.

2511
02:14:58.920 --> 02:15:02.560
<v Speaker 4>These stone jars were carved and moved at the same time,

2512
02:15:02.760 --> 02:15:04.920
<v Speaker 4>or at least around the same When I say at

2513
02:15:04.920 --> 02:15:07.800
<v Speaker 4>the same time, I don't mean the exact year thereof,

2514
02:15:07.920 --> 02:15:11.640
<v Speaker 4>but I mean around the same time frame, the same

2515
02:15:11.840 --> 02:15:14.960
<v Speaker 4>thousand year stint where the pyramids that Egypt were being.

2516
02:15:14.760 --> 02:15:18.439
<v Speaker 3>Built right right, which is making so strange about like

2517
02:15:18.560 --> 02:15:21.520
<v Speaker 3>these are all I mean, yeah, probably a couple hundred

2518
02:15:21.560 --> 02:15:23.680
<v Speaker 3>years away from each other, but right around the same

2519
02:15:23.760 --> 02:15:26.560
<v Speaker 3>time zone that people are speculating that these things were

2520
02:15:26.560 --> 02:15:29.920
<v Speaker 3>created with, you know, the pyramids and and this like

2521
02:15:29.960 --> 02:15:33.560
<v Speaker 3>and amongst other things. But it's weird, just like you know,

2522
02:15:33.600 --> 02:15:35.680
<v Speaker 3>we just just we just supposed that they were stupid

2523
02:15:35.720 --> 02:15:37.079
<v Speaker 3>and they didn't know what the fuck they were doing

2524
02:15:37.119 --> 02:15:40.039
<v Speaker 3>because they weren't advanced, but they had a rhyme or reason.

2525
02:15:40.079 --> 02:15:44.079
<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't just pull or push you know, four ton

2526
02:15:44.239 --> 02:15:49.960
<v Speaker 3>or fourteen ton fucking uh bowls or pots or cups

2527
02:15:50.079 --> 02:15:52.239
<v Speaker 3>or whatever uphill for no damn reason.

2528
02:15:52.960 --> 02:15:56.000
<v Speaker 4>So also, while you're looking, look up, when did iron

2529
02:15:56.079 --> 02:16:00.479
<v Speaker 4>working become a thing in this region Because for some

2530
02:16:00.520 --> 02:16:03.119
<v Speaker 4>of the sandstone, again some of them that are made

2531
02:16:03.159 --> 02:16:05.880
<v Speaker 4>of a sandstone, I could absolutely understand why they were

2532
02:16:05.880 --> 02:16:09.439
<v Speaker 4>able to do that with stone chisels or even bronze chisels.

2533
02:16:09.479 --> 02:16:10.399
<v Speaker 1>This makes sense to me.

2534
02:16:11.319 --> 02:16:15.880
<v Speaker 4>The granite dude, you couldn't do that by in that

2535
02:16:16.039 --> 02:16:20.840
<v Speaker 4>timeframe of two thousand, three thousand BC because you would

2536
02:16:20.920 --> 02:16:24.079
<v Speaker 4>need iron for this, and how in the actual hell

2537
02:16:24.520 --> 02:16:26.359
<v Speaker 4>did it And it's not like cutting a stone, right,

2538
02:16:26.399 --> 02:16:28.159
<v Speaker 4>We've talked about how they did it in Egypt with

2539
02:16:28.199 --> 02:16:32.399
<v Speaker 4>the bricks and how there's excuse me, bronze saws they

2540
02:16:32.399 --> 02:16:34.280
<v Speaker 4>would use and they pour some sand into the cut

2541
02:16:34.280 --> 02:16:35.959
<v Speaker 4>and they'd scrape it and pour some more sand and

2542
02:16:36.000 --> 02:16:39.479
<v Speaker 4>scrape it in very long, arduous process to make a

2543
02:16:39.920 --> 02:16:43.559
<v Speaker 4>cube out of a stone. I understand this. We're talking

2544
02:16:43.600 --> 02:16:46.200
<v Speaker 4>about getting inside of it and carving out the walls.

2545
02:16:46.520 --> 02:16:48.879
<v Speaker 1>No, dude, you're gonna need You're gonna need iron for.

2546
02:16:48.840 --> 02:16:52.559
<v Speaker 3>This, says iron working in Laos began around seven hundred BC,

2547
02:16:52.840 --> 02:16:56.479
<v Speaker 3>following the earlier use of bronze, which started around fifteen

2548
02:16:56.559 --> 02:16:57.159
<v Speaker 3>hundred BC.

2549
02:16:58.159 --> 02:17:02.600
<v Speaker 4>Okay, seven hundred BC, and the last jar was made

2550
02:17:02.799 --> 02:17:03.799
<v Speaker 4>a thousand BC.

2551
02:17:04.559 --> 02:17:06.719
<v Speaker 3>A you see what I'm saying. Fucking aliens, that's the answer.

2552
02:17:06.760 --> 02:17:08.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, that's just what we're gonna say with this one.

2553
02:17:09.159 --> 02:17:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Who knows, dude.

2554
02:17:10.000 --> 02:17:12.799
<v Speaker 4>We get to the next theory. A mythical race of giants.

2555
02:17:13.319 --> 02:17:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Some legends add a mythological dimension to the various planes

2556
02:17:16.280 --> 02:17:19.159
<v Speaker 4>of jars. Theories suggest seeing they were created by a

2557
02:17:19.239 --> 02:17:22.360
<v Speaker 4>race of giants and their king kun Chung. The story

2558
02:17:22.399 --> 02:17:24.399
<v Speaker 4>goes that these giants use the jars to brew and

2559
02:17:24.399 --> 02:17:27.479
<v Speaker 4>store huge quantities of rice wine, known locally as Lao hi,

2560
02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:29.959
<v Speaker 4>although we also saw the Lao lao, which is like

2561
02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:32.159
<v Speaker 4>the rice whiskey that they make. Look, who's to say

2562
02:17:32.159 --> 02:17:33.959
<v Speaker 4>if they're giants and their party, and who knows what

2563
02:17:34.000 --> 02:17:34.520
<v Speaker 4>they were making.

2564
02:17:34.559 --> 02:17:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, they probably just s if they were giants, they

2565
02:17:36.719 --> 02:17:37.559
<v Speaker 3>probably just called.

2566
02:17:37.360 --> 02:17:44.239
<v Speaker 1>It right to be drunken celebration of a great victory.

2567
02:17:44.280 --> 02:17:48.479
<v Speaker 4>While this theory isn't supported by archaeological evidence, it's a

2568
02:17:48.520 --> 02:17:52.280
<v Speaker 4>significant part of the cultural and historical narratives surrounding the jars.

2569
02:17:52.680 --> 02:17:56.159
<v Speaker 4>There are other less prominent and more speculative theories as

2570
02:17:56.200 --> 02:17:58.079
<v Speaker 4>to the purpose of the huge number of vessels in

2571
02:17:58.120 --> 02:18:01.239
<v Speaker 4>the field of jars, including some sort of ceremonial or

2572
02:18:01.319 --> 02:18:06.079
<v Speaker 4>ritualistic use, or as a status symbol or representations of

2573
02:18:06.200 --> 02:18:09.600
<v Speaker 4>social ranking. There's also speculation that they were used in

2574
02:18:09.639 --> 02:18:13.319
<v Speaker 4>relation to astronomy or calendar type devices used to mark

2575
02:18:13.360 --> 02:18:16.840
<v Speaker 4>certain celestial events or seasons. They could also be territorial

2576
02:18:16.879 --> 02:18:21.760
<v Speaker 4>markers or boundary stones delineating specific areas, or, given the

2577
02:18:21.799 --> 02:18:24.319
<v Speaker 4>age of the ministry surrounding the jars, they might have

2578
02:18:24.399 --> 02:18:27.639
<v Speaker 4>held religious or spiritual significance that is not yet understood,

2579
02:18:27.680 --> 02:18:31.479
<v Speaker 4>possibly related to the ancient belief systems or practices which

2580
02:18:31.520 --> 02:18:35.600
<v Speaker 4>have been lost to history. See this is my problem. This,

2581
02:18:35.600 --> 02:18:38.600
<v Speaker 4>this is my problem, dude. Anytime there is something that

2582
02:18:38.639 --> 02:18:42.719
<v Speaker 4>we can't easily explain, oh, we believe it had verious significant,

2583
02:18:42.760 --> 02:18:44.719
<v Speaker 4>ceremonial and religious principles.

2584
02:18:44.479 --> 02:18:46.639
<v Speaker 1>That's that's what it was for. It's like, Okay, I.

2585
02:18:46.639 --> 02:18:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Mean, it's possible. It's not impossible.

2586
02:18:50.120 --> 02:18:55.120
<v Speaker 4>It's possible, yes, but these were obviously vessels meant to

2587
02:18:55.280 --> 02:18:59.760
<v Speaker 4>hold something, carry something, store something like, they had a

2588
02:18:59.760 --> 02:19:03.280
<v Speaker 4>pretic use, and maybe there was a spiritual or religious

2589
02:19:03.360 --> 02:19:06.719
<v Speaker 4>or ceremonial use for them holding something.

2590
02:19:08.040 --> 02:19:11.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's just, oh, dude, it's such a cop out

2591
02:19:11.319 --> 02:19:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to me.

2592
02:19:12.120 --> 02:19:16.040
<v Speaker 4>Every time we find anything that we just can't easily

2593
02:19:16.399 --> 02:19:19.680
<v Speaker 4>identify clearly it was a religious significant thing.

2594
02:19:19.719 --> 02:19:22.399
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I mean, is it possible though, Like, because

2595
02:19:23.319 --> 02:19:26.879
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't that long ago that people were really into

2596
02:19:27.000 --> 02:19:30.239
<v Speaker 3>like the weird spiritual shit. It wasn't until organized religion

2597
02:19:30.680 --> 02:19:35.239
<v Speaker 3>came and started making everything the way that we know it.

2598
02:19:35.319 --> 02:19:38.559
<v Speaker 3>But back then there wasn't really organized religion. You had

2599
02:19:38.600 --> 02:19:42.680
<v Speaker 3>certain pagan deities and maybe there was a certain community

2600
02:19:42.760 --> 02:19:46.440
<v Speaker 3>that offered up offerings to certain spirits or ancestors or

2601
02:19:46.440 --> 02:19:47.239
<v Speaker 3>something like that.

2602
02:19:47.680 --> 02:19:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I didn't call it organized religion.

2603
02:19:50.079 --> 02:19:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean within each community. I mean organized for

2604
02:19:53.000 --> 02:19:55.680
<v Speaker 3>a community, I guess, but not for like a large

2605
02:19:55.959 --> 02:19:59.920
<v Speaker 3>not for like the whole world or a specific country.

2606
02:19:59.799 --> 02:19:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Ma.

2607
02:20:00.280 --> 02:20:00.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

2608
02:20:01.479 --> 02:20:04.319
<v Speaker 4>Romans had a very organized religion. The Greeks had a

2609
02:20:04.399 --> 02:20:11.200
<v Speaker 4>very organized religion. Egypt had a very organized religion. Yeah, dude,

2610
02:20:11.200 --> 02:20:13.799
<v Speaker 4>when they built the pyramids, they had a very organized

2611
02:20:13.799 --> 02:20:14.840
<v Speaker 4>and structure religion.

2612
02:20:14.959 --> 02:20:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

2613
02:20:16.000 --> 02:20:17.639
<v Speaker 3>No, but I'm talking about the Romans.

2614
02:20:18.479 --> 02:20:20.680
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, when the Romans is like, yeah, they they

2615
02:20:20.760 --> 02:20:26.479
<v Speaker 4>had granted, it was basically the exact same Hellenistic vibe.

2616
02:20:26.520 --> 02:20:28.959
<v Speaker 4>They just renamed things to make it Roman, even though

2617
02:20:28.959 --> 02:20:31.120
<v Speaker 4>they took all of their notes from the Greeks. And

2618
02:20:31.120 --> 02:20:33.000
<v Speaker 4>then there's an argument to say that the Greeks took

2619
02:20:33.040 --> 02:20:34.600
<v Speaker 4>all of their notes from the Egyptians.

2620
02:20:34.680 --> 02:20:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I get it.

2621
02:20:35.639 --> 02:20:38.600
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, they had very specific practices that had to

2622
02:20:38.600 --> 02:20:40.760
<v Speaker 4>be uphild. It wasn't just kind of a fly by night,

2623
02:20:40.840 --> 02:20:41.600
<v Speaker 4>do it feels right?

2624
02:20:41.719 --> 02:20:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

2625
02:20:41.879 --> 02:20:44.920
<v Speaker 3>But it was ever changing though, at least from my research,

2626
02:20:45.000 --> 02:20:48.719
<v Speaker 3>as far as at least within the Roman times, because

2627
02:20:48.879 --> 02:20:52.840
<v Speaker 3>before Christianity made its way over into that region of

2628
02:20:52.879 --> 02:20:56.760
<v Speaker 3>the world, they were legit like they had fucking cults

2629
02:20:57.000 --> 02:21:00.719
<v Speaker 3>where they were worshiping the emperor's genius or which was

2630
02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:05.000
<v Speaker 3>another way of just saying that the emperor's guardian angel

2631
02:21:05.200 --> 02:21:05.719
<v Speaker 3>or whatever.

2632
02:21:06.639 --> 02:21:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

2633
02:21:07.639 --> 02:21:11.040
<v Speaker 4>They had, yeah, military cults that would worship the emperor

2634
02:21:11.200 --> 02:21:13.760
<v Speaker 4>as a deity himself, which is why he was put

2635
02:21:14.079 --> 02:21:16.479
<v Speaker 4>a statue of him was usually put into either a

2636
02:21:16.600 --> 02:21:18.639
<v Speaker 4>his own temple or be the temple of Zeus for

2637
02:21:18.760 --> 02:21:21.920
<v Speaker 4>that or I should say Jupiter as you do.

2638
02:21:21.920 --> 02:21:23.280
<v Speaker 3>With the mad dog matters.

2639
02:21:23.760 --> 02:21:26.440
<v Speaker 4>It's some Yeah, I've seen people Bill trying some mad dog.

2640
02:21:26.520 --> 02:21:28.200
<v Speaker 4>I had to take mine down, but that's besides the point.

2641
02:21:28.200 --> 02:21:30.799
<v Speaker 4>But didn't neither here there, Okay, but yeah, there is

2642
02:21:30.840 --> 02:21:32.879
<v Speaker 4>people that would do that, But that's my point. You

2643
02:21:32.920 --> 02:21:36.719
<v Speaker 4>would have organized cults to a specific deity, but I

2644
02:21:36.760 --> 02:21:38.239
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't call that unorganized.

2645
02:21:38.600 --> 02:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>If anything, I would call that extremely structured. It was. Yeah,

2646
02:21:42.040 --> 02:21:43.559
<v Speaker 1>there was a pantheon, and there was.

2647
02:21:43.559 --> 02:21:45.399
<v Speaker 4>More than one way or more than one way to

2648
02:21:45.479 --> 02:21:49.159
<v Speaker 4>worship in totality. But like you knew that this God

2649
02:21:49.360 --> 02:21:52.879
<v Speaker 4>expected this type of sacrifice, This God expected this type

2650
02:21:52.920 --> 02:21:55.120
<v Speaker 4>of sacrifice this, God did this thing, and it's like,

2651
02:21:55.159 --> 02:21:57.559
<v Speaker 4>if you wanted this, you sacrifice this in order to

2652
02:21:57.639 --> 02:22:00.239
<v Speaker 4>get this, so like it to us in now, our

2653
02:22:00.360 --> 02:22:02.959
<v Speaker 4>modern day, we might see that as kind of all

2654
02:22:02.959 --> 02:22:05.879
<v Speaker 4>over the place and unorganized. I would argue that that's

2655
02:22:06.479 --> 02:22:07.959
<v Speaker 4>very organized as a matter of fact.

2656
02:22:08.239 --> 02:22:10.520
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, there's that's the thing.

2657
02:22:10.520 --> 02:22:12.840
<v Speaker 4>We're talking about, a religion in this area of Southeast

2658
02:22:12.879 --> 02:22:15.799
<v Speaker 4>Asia that we probably will never know about because it's

2659
02:22:15.799 --> 02:22:18.680
<v Speaker 4>been lost to the sands of time. Buddhism took over,

2660
02:22:18.760 --> 02:22:21.520
<v Speaker 4>like you said, in the eighth century a d. So

2661
02:22:21.680 --> 02:22:25.760
<v Speaker 4>whatever the people were worshiping before that point, who fucking.

2662
02:22:25.520 --> 02:22:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Knows, man, who knows?

2663
02:22:27.360 --> 02:22:32.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So anyway, so yeah, the plane of jars, it's

2664
02:22:32.680 --> 02:22:35.079
<v Speaker 4>a wild it's a wild conversation, dude.

2665
02:22:35.159 --> 02:22:37.239
<v Speaker 3>I actually did want to pull up a couple of

2666
02:22:37.319 --> 02:22:41.520
<v Speaker 3>the other possible speculative kind of things here, and so

2667
02:22:41.840 --> 02:22:43.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie. Some of it's gonna get a

2668
02:22:43.319 --> 02:22:46.319
<v Speaker 3>little wooy loo woo woo wie if you will, Okay,

2669
02:22:46.879 --> 02:22:49.360
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, hey, you can't really throw anything out

2670
02:22:49.399 --> 02:22:52.559
<v Speaker 3>because there is no answer, so you can only speculate. So,

2671
02:22:52.680 --> 02:22:55.559
<v Speaker 3>first of all, you had the the whole giants and

2672
02:22:56.159 --> 02:22:58.479
<v Speaker 3>that whole conversation, which we're not going to go back into,

2673
02:22:58.520 --> 02:23:01.079
<v Speaker 3>but if you think about it as far as that

2674
02:23:01.120 --> 02:23:06.520
<v Speaker 3>whole giant situation, So that's what they believe. As far

2675
02:23:06.520 --> 02:23:10.239
<v Speaker 3>as the local Lautian legend that there was a race,

2676
02:23:10.520 --> 02:23:13.680
<v Speaker 3>a race of giants that roam the land. The jars

2677
02:23:13.719 --> 02:23:18.520
<v Speaker 3>created by are created for Kun Chung, who had just

2678
02:23:18.559 --> 02:23:20.840
<v Speaker 3>won a great battle. To celebrate, he commissioned the creation

2679
02:23:20.920 --> 02:23:23.959
<v Speaker 3>of massive jars to brew and store huge quantities of

2680
02:23:24.000 --> 02:23:26.719
<v Speaker 3>rice wine for the victory feast. It says that this

2681
02:23:27.000 --> 02:23:30.600
<v Speaker 3>theory fits into broader Indo Asian mythology of giants and

2682
02:23:30.639 --> 02:23:34.319
<v Speaker 3>sky beings who built massive structures around the world, much

2683
02:23:34.520 --> 02:23:37.159
<v Speaker 3>like the Nephelum lore in the Bible. So I thought

2684
02:23:37.200 --> 02:23:41.840
<v Speaker 3>that was kind of strange. Then we we can't not

2685
02:23:42.159 --> 02:23:45.399
<v Speaker 3>mention aliens like it's gotta get thrown out there.

2686
02:23:45.760 --> 02:23:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Why the fuck not at this point?

2687
02:23:47.920 --> 02:23:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Not so it says alien landing markers or stargates. All right,

2688
02:23:54.040 --> 02:23:56.319
<v Speaker 3>you got your ship like this, you gotta get a

2689
02:23:56.319 --> 02:23:57.959
<v Speaker 3>little stargatey up in here, dude.

2690
02:23:58.079 --> 02:23:58.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

2691
02:23:58.879 --> 02:24:01.680
<v Speaker 3>So some French theory believe that the plane of jars

2692
02:24:01.719 --> 02:24:05.000
<v Speaker 3>aligns with the ancient global energy grids much like the

2693
02:24:05.719 --> 02:24:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Nasca lines or Stonehenge. According to this idea, the jars

2694
02:24:09.239 --> 02:24:13.840
<v Speaker 3>are not just containers but markers or amplifiers of electromagnetic energy,

2695
02:24:14.079 --> 02:24:18.879
<v Speaker 3>placed deliberately by either extraterrestrial visitors or ancient civilizations guided

2696
02:24:18.920 --> 02:24:22.639
<v Speaker 3>by them. So the jar's durable material. There's strange distribution

2697
02:24:22.719 --> 02:24:26.000
<v Speaker 3>across wide areas and lack of clear quarrying records, all

2698
02:24:26.000 --> 02:24:30.399
<v Speaker 3>fueled the alien theory. Of course, maybe why not? Then

2699
02:24:30.399 --> 02:24:35.879
<v Speaker 3>you get into the interdimensional anchors. Possibly so in esoteric circles,

2700
02:24:36.079 --> 02:24:39.760
<v Speaker 3>it speculated that the jars were used in soul transference

2701
02:24:39.920 --> 02:24:43.120
<v Speaker 3>or anchoring rituals. The theory posits that they could have

2702
02:24:43.200 --> 02:24:47.360
<v Speaker 3>held relics or remains during astral or shamanic ceremonies where

2703
02:24:47.399 --> 02:24:51.319
<v Speaker 3>the goal was to preserve or transfer consciousness, essentially acting

2704
02:24:51.399 --> 02:24:58.639
<v Speaker 3>like primitive soul jars or horcuxes. All right, throw a

2705
02:24:58.639 --> 02:25:02.319
<v Speaker 3>little Harry Potter in there. So the jar's hollow interiors

2706
02:25:02.319 --> 02:25:05.159
<v Speaker 3>in alignment with certain lay lines give this idea some

2707
02:25:05.239 --> 02:25:09.520
<v Speaker 3>mystical appeal. Then there's obviously the last civilization technology, one

2708
02:25:09.559 --> 02:25:12.879
<v Speaker 3>of my favorites if we're going here, similar to the

2709
02:25:13.120 --> 02:25:16.840
<v Speaker 3>Atlantis of the East idea, Some believe that the jars

2710
02:25:16.840 --> 02:25:20.120
<v Speaker 3>were created by a now lost advanced civilization with stone

2711
02:25:20.159 --> 02:25:23.559
<v Speaker 3>shaping technology unknown to us. Some of the jars were

2712
02:25:23.600 --> 02:25:26.600
<v Speaker 3>made of solid granite, which would have required extreme tools

2713
02:25:26.680 --> 02:25:30.600
<v Speaker 3>or methods to carve precisely, methods that supposedly didn't exist

2714
02:25:30.600 --> 02:25:34.000
<v Speaker 3>in the region at that time. This parallels other anomalies

2715
02:25:34.159 --> 02:25:37.799
<v Speaker 3>like the Ballbeck stones in Lebanon or the megaliths of

2716
02:25:38.719 --> 02:25:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Saska Jueman in Peru. I don't know how to say.

2717
02:25:42.319 --> 02:25:45.000
<v Speaker 3>That's a long ass word. Then you got the ancient

2718
02:25:45.040 --> 02:25:48.120
<v Speaker 3>refrigeration and food storage, which, man, I'm not big on

2719
02:25:48.159 --> 02:25:51.120
<v Speaker 3>that one. This is the one that I thought was

2720
02:25:51.159 --> 02:25:55.360
<v Speaker 3>really interesting, which is the dragon or naga symbolism. So

2721
02:25:55.639 --> 02:26:00.000
<v Speaker 3>in Southeastern Asian mythology, it's filled with tales of the naga,

2722
02:26:00.120 --> 02:26:03.239
<v Speaker 3>which are the serpent and deities. Right Yeah, And some

2723
02:26:03.319 --> 02:26:06.319
<v Speaker 3>believe that the jars mark important lay points or dragon

2724
02:26:06.399 --> 02:26:08.760
<v Speaker 3>lines across the land. They may have been used in

2725
02:26:08.840 --> 02:26:12.479
<v Speaker 3>rituals to appease earth spirits or channel energy along these

2726
02:26:12.520 --> 02:26:15.680
<v Speaker 3>invisible lines, much like the Chinese funk Shue grid or

2727
02:26:15.840 --> 02:26:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Indian vast iwo. So this theory blends animism, geomancy, and

2728
02:26:20.399 --> 02:26:26.760
<v Speaker 3>ancient serpent worship traditions. And then of course, and then

2729
02:26:26.799 --> 02:26:28.799
<v Speaker 3>I was like, all right, well, let's get into this

2730
02:26:28.879 --> 02:26:32.079
<v Speaker 3>whole Asian dragon grid theory, right.

2731
02:26:33.520 --> 02:26:34.959
<v Speaker 1>So talked about that in an episode.

2732
02:26:35.040 --> 02:26:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Do there certain buildings that are built with dragon holes

2733
02:26:37.920 --> 02:26:40.200
<v Speaker 4>cut into them for funk shue purposes?

2734
02:26:40.239 --> 02:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>Even architecturally speaking in.

2735
02:26:41.760 --> 02:26:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Our modern day, they build buildings so that the spirit

2736
02:26:45.559 --> 02:26:47.719
<v Speaker 4>of dragons can pass through unimpeded.

2737
02:26:48.000 --> 02:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Some mean, okay, yeah.

2738
02:26:50.239 --> 02:26:53.600
<v Speaker 3>So In Eastern geomancy, such as funk Shui and vastu

2739
02:26:53.799 --> 02:26:57.000
<v Speaker 3>et cetera, lay lines are referred to as dragon lines,

2740
02:26:57.239 --> 02:27:00.879
<v Speaker 3>currents of chi or life or life force that flows

2741
02:27:00.920 --> 02:27:04.680
<v Speaker 3>across the land these lines. These lines often aligned with

2742
02:27:04.799 --> 02:27:08.680
<v Speaker 3>mountain ranges, sacred temples, rivers, and megalithic sites. So the

2743
02:27:08.719 --> 02:27:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Plane of Jars is located in northern Laos near the

2744
02:27:11.920 --> 02:27:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Anamite Mountains. The entire Mikong River basin, which includes Laos, Cambodia,

2745
02:27:17.639 --> 02:27:20.799
<v Speaker 3>and Vietnam, is said to host an energetic vortex that

2746
02:27:20.879 --> 02:27:23.760
<v Speaker 3>feeds into the Himalayas and spread southeast into the South

2747
02:27:23.879 --> 02:27:27.520
<v Speaker 3>China Sea. Some researchers place the Plane of Jars along

2748
02:27:27.559 --> 02:27:31.920
<v Speaker 3>a secondary or tertiary lay grid that aligns with the

2749
02:27:31.959 --> 02:27:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Ankor Watt and Cambodia, Bagan and Myanmar and watt Fu

2750
02:27:36.120 --> 02:27:39.200
<v Speaker 3>in southern Laos, and possibly even the Nasca lines when

2751
02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:43.520
<v Speaker 3>viewed through certain Great Circle Earth grid models. And this

2752
02:27:43.600 --> 02:27:47.959
<v Speaker 3>suggestion or this suggests a sacred geometric connection nodes of

2753
02:27:48.000 --> 02:27:51.559
<v Speaker 3>consciousness or energy where ancient people's placed temples, monuments, or

2754
02:27:51.639 --> 02:27:55.040
<v Speaker 3>ritual sites to tap into this subtle force. And then

2755
02:27:55.079 --> 02:27:58.200
<v Speaker 3>there's a bunch of like I was just looking into

2756
02:27:58.239 --> 02:28:01.319
<v Speaker 3>all the different grids and lay line and whatever we

2757
02:28:01.360 --> 02:28:06.920
<v Speaker 3>could speculate. Right, there's something called the becker Hagen's grid connection,

2758
02:28:08.120 --> 02:28:14.000
<v Speaker 3>which is really interesting because this theory proposes a dodecahedron

2759
02:28:14.680 --> 02:28:19.760
<v Speaker 3>icosahedron planetary energy structure with sixty two major nodal points.

2760
02:28:19.799 --> 02:28:23.239
<v Speaker 3>These are based on mathematical divisions of the Earth, similar

2761
02:28:23.280 --> 02:28:26.959
<v Speaker 3>to how meridians and parallels divide geography. So if you

2762
02:28:27.040 --> 02:28:29.239
<v Speaker 3>really want to get real weird, that's really where you go.

2763
02:28:29.319 --> 02:28:31.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even gonna go there. But then there's of

2764
02:28:31.879 --> 02:28:36.360
<v Speaker 3>course the sound vibrational lay line points such as like

2765
02:28:36.440 --> 02:28:41.360
<v Speaker 3>acoustic resonance and harmonic or natural harmonic amplification that would

2766
02:28:41.680 --> 02:28:48.399
<v Speaker 3>allegedly reverberate through the land subsonic vibrational pathways, hypothesized sound corridors,

2767
02:28:48.600 --> 02:28:51.360
<v Speaker 3>and you can really just get fucking wild. But I

2768
02:28:51.399 --> 02:28:54.120
<v Speaker 3>thought that it was interesting the most with the Southeast

2769
02:28:54.159 --> 02:28:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Asian dragon lines, which you know, you got the certain

2770
02:28:58.639 --> 02:29:00.959
<v Speaker 3>nature chi that just flows through the land. I don't

2771
02:29:00.959 --> 02:29:02.479
<v Speaker 3>know what the fucking pots would have to do with that,

2772
02:29:03.040 --> 02:29:07.360
<v Speaker 3>but it's like it always seems like anytime there's like

2773
02:29:07.440 --> 02:29:11.639
<v Speaker 3>these megalithic structures, they're always, for one reason or another,

2774
02:29:11.760 --> 02:29:16.600
<v Speaker 3>perfectly in line on certain grids or lay lines like that. Right,

2775
02:29:16.959 --> 02:29:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Like we bring up our boy that likes to talk

2776
02:29:20.680 --> 02:29:24.120
<v Speaker 3>about the the energetic grid and the lay lines and

2777
02:29:24.159 --> 02:29:27.000
<v Speaker 3>the thirty third pel parallels and shit like that. I

2778
02:29:27.040 --> 02:29:29.959
<v Speaker 3>just believe that the people way back then were much

2779
02:29:29.959 --> 02:29:32.159
<v Speaker 3>more connected to the land than what we are now.

2780
02:29:32.520 --> 02:29:34.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, they respected the land. They looked at the

2781
02:29:34.520 --> 02:29:38.760
<v Speaker 3>land as if it was that it wasn't, you know,

2782
02:29:38.920 --> 02:29:43.120
<v Speaker 3>just some animate object or inanimate object. Rather that they

2783
02:29:43.159 --> 02:29:47.040
<v Speaker 3>they like had built like some weird connection to the land.

2784
02:29:47.680 --> 02:29:50.520
<v Speaker 3>And maybe that maybe that's why we don't know, because

2785
02:29:50.559 --> 02:29:53.159
<v Speaker 3>we don't understand the way that they were thinking back then.

2786
02:29:53.520 --> 02:29:56.440
<v Speaker 3>And I think that that's really the the the mystery

2787
02:29:56.479 --> 02:29:59.879
<v Speaker 3>here for the most part, it's that we don't understand

2788
02:30:00.079 --> 02:30:04.639
<v Speaker 3>their mind and their connection to the whatever their spiritual

2789
02:30:05.040 --> 02:30:07.520
<v Speaker 3>essence was, or what were they connected to to the

2790
02:30:07.600 --> 02:30:10.159
<v Speaker 3>land or the spirits of the ancestors, to the gods.

2791
02:30:10.799 --> 02:30:13.319
<v Speaker 3>And maybe it's not spiritual at all, Maybe it literally

2792
02:30:13.479 --> 02:30:16.559
<v Speaker 3>is just a burial ground. That's also possible too. But

2793
02:30:16.959 --> 02:30:19.639
<v Speaker 3>even with the burial ground, I find it very interesting

2794
02:30:19.959 --> 02:30:21.559
<v Speaker 3>that they would bring it all the way up to

2795
02:30:21.600 --> 02:30:24.079
<v Speaker 3>the top of the hill, maybe the closest you can

2796
02:30:24.120 --> 02:30:26.120
<v Speaker 3>get to Heaven symbolically.

2797
02:30:26.680 --> 02:30:29.319
<v Speaker 4>Maybe, But even with that, there's higher mountains that they

2798
02:30:29.319 --> 02:30:30.000
<v Speaker 4>could have chose.

2799
02:30:30.879 --> 02:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>So like, what was the purpose to this? But I

2800
02:30:33.280 --> 02:30:34.639
<v Speaker 1>think you might be onto something here.

2801
02:30:34.920 --> 02:30:37.520
<v Speaker 4>And this is currently a working theory that I have

2802
02:30:37.719 --> 02:30:40.479
<v Speaker 4>not about who created the jars or for what purpose?

2803
02:30:41.040 --> 02:30:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Who knows? And I hope that as.

2804
02:30:43.120 --> 02:30:46.559
<v Speaker 4>More archaeological discovery is done, once they can clear out

2805
02:30:46.559 --> 02:30:48.559
<v Speaker 4>more of the minds and things, that maybe we'll find

2806
02:30:48.559 --> 02:30:52.200
<v Speaker 4>out more answers to these questions. Right that being said,

2807
02:30:53.000 --> 02:30:56.520
<v Speaker 4>why are there so many minds? Yeah, the Hucci Min

2808
02:30:56.559 --> 02:30:58.799
<v Speaker 4>trail went through this area. Don't get me wrong, I

2809
02:30:58.840 --> 02:31:04.040
<v Speaker 4>get this. There is murals depicting bombings that took place

2810
02:31:04.200 --> 02:31:08.840
<v Speaker 4>at the plane of jars specifically, it's kind of crazy

2811
02:31:08.879 --> 02:31:13.479
<v Speaker 4>to me that we dropped two hundred and sixty two

2812
02:31:14.239 --> 02:31:19.799
<v Speaker 4>million cluster bombs on the plane of jars, not the entirety,

2813
02:31:20.280 --> 02:31:22.200
<v Speaker 4>not the entirety of the huci Man trail and all that.

2814
02:31:22.239 --> 02:31:24.760
<v Speaker 4>We dropped a lot more, don't get me wrong, just

2815
02:31:24.920 --> 02:31:29.760
<v Speaker 4>on these jars themselves. We dropped this much, ordinance, more

2816
02:31:29.799 --> 02:31:31.920
<v Speaker 4>than we dropped on the entirety of Europe in World

2817
02:31:31.959 --> 02:31:36.120
<v Speaker 4>War Two. So here's my theory. I think that you're

2818
02:31:36.280 --> 02:31:42.440
<v Speaker 4>right that these jars were or they are, some kind

2819
02:31:42.520 --> 02:31:48.120
<v Speaker 4>of a connection now to what, to whom, to what dimension? Look,

2820
02:31:48.159 --> 02:31:51.879
<v Speaker 4>who knows, who fucking knows. But I think it's very

2821
02:31:51.959 --> 02:31:56.920
<v Speaker 4>interesting that during this operation Operation Rollback so.

2822
02:31:56.920 --> 02:31:58.559
<v Speaker 1>On the wait, wait, I don't want to misquote, I

2823
02:31:58.600 --> 02:31:59.159
<v Speaker 1>don't want.

2824
02:31:59.000 --> 02:32:03.559
<v Speaker 4>To know roll Operation Barrel role. I find it very

2825
02:32:03.799 --> 02:32:06.319
<v Speaker 4>very interesting that the United States government, while I have

2826
02:32:06.360 --> 02:32:09.520
<v Speaker 4>a whole war going on in Vietnam, and yes they're

2827
02:32:09.520 --> 02:32:12.239
<v Speaker 4>trying to break up the logistical pathway for the North

2828
02:32:12.559 --> 02:32:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Namese and viet Cong and all, that they go out

2829
02:32:15.760 --> 02:32:20.799
<v Speaker 4>of their way to try to destroy these jars that

2830
02:32:20.879 --> 02:32:23.000
<v Speaker 4>weren't doing things.

2831
02:32:22.920 --> 02:32:25.120
<v Speaker 3>Which kind of do resemble barrels?

2832
02:32:25.600 --> 02:32:26.799
<v Speaker 1>They do? They do?

2833
02:32:26.920 --> 02:32:29.639
<v Speaker 3>You know, you call it barrel roll in that area

2834
02:32:30.200 --> 02:32:33.520
<v Speaker 3>from our government and we're bombing that land on top

2835
02:32:33.600 --> 02:32:36.319
<v Speaker 3>of these fucking seemingly barrel type structures.

2836
02:32:36.920 --> 02:32:40.879
<v Speaker 4>Then look at more modern days, when we invaded Iraq,

2837
02:32:41.520 --> 02:32:43.040
<v Speaker 4>where was the first place we went to?

2838
02:32:44.159 --> 02:32:44.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

2839
02:32:44.879 --> 02:32:46.280
<v Speaker 3>I know this, I forget though.

2840
02:32:47.360 --> 02:32:49.680
<v Speaker 1>It was It was Nebuknezer's palace.

2841
02:32:49.879 --> 02:32:50.520
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

2842
02:32:50.719 --> 02:32:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Now there's people that will speculate as to the

2843
02:32:54.200 --> 02:32:57.079
<v Speaker 4>why on that? Was it for the stargate? Was it

2844
02:32:57.120 --> 02:33:00.520
<v Speaker 4>for the artifacts? Was it just to take out the

2845
02:33:01.000 --> 02:33:04.280
<v Speaker 4>heart and soul of the Iraqi army by taking their

2846
02:33:04.280 --> 02:33:08.280
<v Speaker 4>most prized possessions i e. Their historical possessions to where

2847
02:33:08.280 --> 02:33:10.120
<v Speaker 4>they would have no will to fight. Look, I don't

2848
02:33:10.159 --> 02:33:14.680
<v Speaker 4>know their speculation on this, but that being said, if

2849
02:33:14.680 --> 02:33:19.360
<v Speaker 4>we're trying to disrupt Vietnam, why are we bombing a

2850
02:33:19.600 --> 02:33:21.159
<v Speaker 4>what is now a UNESCO.

2851
02:33:20.840 --> 02:33:24.719
<v Speaker 1>World Heritage Site for Laos.

2852
02:33:25.079 --> 02:33:28.040
<v Speaker 4>It's very similar to when Napoleon went to Egypt and

2853
02:33:28.040 --> 02:33:33.559
<v Speaker 4>he fired canons at the pyramids. But why you're not

2854
02:33:33.559 --> 02:33:36.920
<v Speaker 4>going to destroy them with canons? You already won the battle,

2855
02:33:37.360 --> 02:33:40.159
<v Speaker 4>or you're just trying to stomp on the heart and

2856
02:33:40.239 --> 02:33:41.440
<v Speaker 4>soul of Egypt.

2857
02:33:41.840 --> 02:33:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or is it or.

2858
02:33:43.719 --> 02:33:46.879
<v Speaker 3>Or is it desecrating that there were gods before you

2859
02:33:46.959 --> 02:33:48.399
<v Speaker 3>if you wanted to be seen as a god.

2860
02:33:49.079 --> 02:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You see where I'm going with that. Now.

2861
02:33:50.959 --> 02:33:54.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that the American president at the time

2862
02:33:54.280 --> 02:33:56.920
<v Speaker 4>of Operation Barrel role, which was I mean nine years.

2863
02:33:57.159 --> 02:34:00.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that Johnson and or Nixon and or

2864
02:34:00.440 --> 02:34:03.920
<v Speaker 4>whoever was trying well no, no, no, Nixon was after that

2865
02:34:04.440 --> 02:34:06.479
<v Speaker 4>or before that. I should say it was Kennedy than Johnson.

2866
02:34:06.479 --> 02:34:09.799
<v Speaker 4>But either way, I am not saying that they were

2867
02:34:09.840 --> 02:34:13.159
<v Speaker 4>trying to be seen as gods to the people of Laos.

2868
02:34:13.680 --> 02:34:18.520
<v Speaker 4>But if you were trying to disrupt those people's spiritual

2869
02:34:18.559 --> 02:34:22.680
<v Speaker 4>connection in some way, shape or form, and or prevent

2870
02:34:23.079 --> 02:34:27.680
<v Speaker 4>any archaeologist to ever discover what they were actually used for,

2871
02:34:28.040 --> 02:34:30.879
<v Speaker 4>because that might get in the way of the historical

2872
02:34:30.959 --> 02:34:32.600
<v Speaker 4>narrative that we've come to know and love.

2873
02:34:33.879 --> 02:34:35.399
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps there was more of.

2874
02:34:35.360 --> 02:34:40.440
<v Speaker 4>A h more of a a Malfesians to it, right,

2875
02:34:40.520 --> 02:34:44.479
<v Speaker 4>Maybe there was a bit more evil intent behind the

2876
02:34:44.520 --> 02:34:47.440
<v Speaker 4>bombings of the Plane of Jars. I don't know that

2877
02:34:47.520 --> 02:34:50.000
<v Speaker 4>for a fact, but that is a whole hell of

2878
02:34:50.040 --> 02:34:52.319
<v Speaker 4>a lot of ordinance to be bombing the shit out

2879
02:34:52.319 --> 02:34:53.879
<v Speaker 4>of two thousand stone jars.

2880
02:34:53.719 --> 02:34:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Dude, I mean, yeah, maybe you don't point necessarily to

2881
02:34:57.440 --> 02:35:01.079
<v Speaker 3>a president as him wanting to become a god or

2882
02:35:01.120 --> 02:35:04.239
<v Speaker 3>anything like that, but if you look at it grand scale,

2883
02:35:04.559 --> 02:35:07.959
<v Speaker 3>are you trying to make America God? Are you trying

2884
02:35:08.000 --> 02:35:14.719
<v Speaker 3>to make you know, the literal world's leader in basically

2885
02:35:14.760 --> 02:35:17.840
<v Speaker 3>fucking everything? Like we pretty much lay down, dick whatever

2886
02:35:17.879 --> 02:35:20.959
<v Speaker 3>we do, right and compared to I mean not as

2887
02:35:20.959 --> 02:35:23.799
<v Speaker 3>far as manufacturing, but as far as consuming goes, we

2888
02:35:23.879 --> 02:35:24.760
<v Speaker 3>got that down.

2889
02:35:25.319 --> 02:35:27.319
<v Speaker 4>H It's like the same conversation is why can't we

2890
02:35:27.360 --> 02:35:30.239
<v Speaker 4>go to every area of the Grand Canyon, Like, yeah,

2891
02:35:30.319 --> 02:35:32.280
<v Speaker 4>certain areas are dangerous and they don't want people to

2892
02:35:32.280 --> 02:35:34.719
<v Speaker 4>get hurt, and I get that, But there are other

2893
02:35:34.760 --> 02:35:36.520
<v Speaker 4>areas they don't want us to go to because it

2894
02:35:36.639 --> 02:35:39.040
<v Speaker 4>would expose a little bit of the prehistory that they

2895
02:35:39.079 --> 02:35:39.680
<v Speaker 4>don't want us.

2896
02:35:39.559 --> 02:35:41.280
<v Speaker 1>To know about. Right, We've talked about that.

2897
02:35:41.239 --> 02:35:42.600
<v Speaker 3>And get to the giant doorways.

2898
02:35:43.879 --> 02:35:45.920
<v Speaker 4>So why would they bomb the shit out of these

2899
02:35:45.959 --> 02:35:49.520
<v Speaker 4>stone jars that they allegedly no one knows where they

2900
02:35:49.559 --> 02:35:54.000
<v Speaker 4>came from, carved somewhere around three thousand BC. What difference

2901
02:35:54.000 --> 02:35:57.760
<v Speaker 4>does it make that's not gonna hurt anybody unless the

2902
02:35:57.760 --> 02:36:00.159
<v Speaker 4>more we find out about these things, the more it

2903
02:36:00.239 --> 02:36:02.719
<v Speaker 4>kind of unravels the fabric of what we thought. Again,

2904
02:36:02.799 --> 02:36:07.479
<v Speaker 4>those granite stone carvings, nobody knew how to do that

2905
02:36:07.520 --> 02:36:11.040
<v Speaker 4>in one thousand BC. How the fuck did they accomplish

2906
02:36:11.079 --> 02:36:15.239
<v Speaker 4>that unless and again now we get into the speculation.

2907
02:36:15.479 --> 02:36:18.319
<v Speaker 4>Was it giants? Was it aliens? Was it air dimensional beings?

2908
02:36:18.360 --> 02:36:21.479
<v Speaker 4>Were these people operating at a level of technology that

2909
02:36:21.520 --> 02:36:24.440
<v Speaker 4>we seriously have never considered that they could even have

2910
02:36:24.639 --> 02:36:26.520
<v Speaker 4>before that point, but they were fucking with it?

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02:36:26.559 --> 02:36:28.319
<v Speaker 1>How do they get that technology? How do they get

2912
02:36:28.319 --> 02:36:28.760
<v Speaker 1>that knowledge?

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02:36:28.760 --> 02:36:30.760
<v Speaker 4>And you see what I'm saying, It starts the churning,

2914
02:36:30.799 --> 02:36:33.920
<v Speaker 4>It starts the wheels spinning. I don't know, but it

2915
02:36:33.959 --> 02:36:36.760
<v Speaker 4>stands to reason that the American government really did not

2916
02:36:36.840 --> 02:36:39.239
<v Speaker 4>want those jars to survive the war. They bombed the

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02:36:39.239 --> 02:36:41.040
<v Speaker 4>fuck out of them for nine straight years.

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02:36:42.319 --> 02:36:44.879
<v Speaker 3>Good cult members, let us know what you think. We

2919
02:36:44.920 --> 02:36:47.600
<v Speaker 3>tried to cover as many possible angles that we could

2920
02:36:47.639 --> 02:36:50.079
<v Speaker 3>on this one, and we are still puzzled at the end.

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02:36:50.120 --> 02:36:54.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't have even one like leading theory with this

2922
02:36:54.959 --> 02:36:57.840
<v Speaker 3>whole thing. It is just so mind boggling. I mean,

2923
02:36:57.879 --> 02:37:03.479
<v Speaker 3>why would you have these giant fucking structures. I mean,

2924
02:37:03.520 --> 02:37:05.840
<v Speaker 3>are you you're just gonna be using as burial grounds

2925
02:37:05.879 --> 02:37:08.360
<v Speaker 3>in Loos? I mean, what were they up to back then?

2926
02:37:08.600 --> 02:37:10.639
<v Speaker 3>What were they doing? What did they do it for?

2927
02:37:11.040 --> 02:37:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Was it just.

2928
02:37:11.559 --> 02:37:15.040
<v Speaker 3>To collect rain water? Was it just to store wine?

2929
02:37:15.239 --> 02:37:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Was it just to maybe they were storing grain or

2930
02:37:17.959 --> 02:37:21.319
<v Speaker 3>rice or whatever. Or was it used in some kind

2931
02:37:21.319 --> 02:37:24.360
<v Speaker 3>of magical ceremony. Was it to call on the sky gods?

2932
02:37:24.479 --> 02:37:27.799
<v Speaker 3>Was it to line up astrologically, was it to like

2933
02:37:28.120 --> 02:37:30.680
<v Speaker 3>line up perfectly with the grids of the lay lines

2934
02:37:30.680 --> 02:37:33.559
<v Speaker 3>of the earth, or maybe something even entirely more different,

2935
02:37:33.840 --> 02:37:37.000
<v Speaker 3>like the fucking giants using them for whiskey glasses. Let

2936
02:37:37.079 --> 02:37:37.399
<v Speaker 3>us know.

2937
02:37:38.280 --> 02:37:41.280
<v Speaker 4>Indeed at this time, good call members. If you would

2938
02:37:41.319 --> 02:37:43.239
<v Speaker 4>like to get your start in the buying and selling

2939
02:37:43.280 --> 02:37:46.399
<v Speaker 4>and trading of gold and silver bullion, the best place

2940
02:37:46.399 --> 02:37:48.159
<v Speaker 4>to get started would be go to the link description

2941
02:37:48.280 --> 02:37:51.719
<v Speaker 4>below cocsilver dot com. When you fill out your information,

2942
02:37:51.760 --> 02:37:53.479
<v Speaker 4>our homeboy, WINGE Clark is gonna be the one to

2943
02:37:53.520 --> 02:37:55.879
<v Speaker 4>reach out and give you all of the rundown of

2944
02:37:55.920 --> 02:37:58.639
<v Speaker 4>how this whole thing goes down. Listen, There's never been

2945
02:37:58.680 --> 02:38:01.719
<v Speaker 4>a better time to buy silver and gold bullion minted coins,

2946
02:38:01.840 --> 02:38:04.959
<v Speaker 4>real weight of these precious metals. The dollar is gonna

2947
02:38:04.959 --> 02:38:06.639
<v Speaker 4>go up down left right in the center. But you

2948
02:38:06.639 --> 02:38:09.600
<v Speaker 4>know what's gonna maintain value, precious metals. Talk to your

2949
02:38:09.600 --> 02:38:12.200
<v Speaker 4>financial guy, I promise you, And if you don't have one,

2950
02:38:12.280 --> 02:38:14.799
<v Speaker 4>look a CPA is only a phone call away. Ask

2951
02:38:14.879 --> 02:38:17.639
<v Speaker 4>them what they think about investing in precious metals.

2952
02:38:17.680 --> 02:38:19.479
<v Speaker 1>I promise you they're gonna tell you it's wise.

2953
02:38:20.200 --> 02:38:22.399
<v Speaker 4>Right now, gold is over three thousand dollars an ounce,

2954
02:38:22.399 --> 02:38:24.520
<v Speaker 4>silver is a little bit over thirty five dollars an ounce.

2955
02:38:24.520 --> 02:38:27.200
<v Speaker 4>It's still affordable to get your hands on some yourself

2956
02:38:27.239 --> 02:38:31.040
<v Speaker 4>and get some of these gorgeous coins minted MS seventy

2957
02:38:31.159 --> 02:38:34.600
<v Speaker 4>minted silver coins, which is the highest grade minted coin,

2958
02:38:34.639 --> 02:38:38.000
<v Speaker 4>I should say cocsilver dot Com. Again, that link is

2959
02:38:38.000 --> 02:38:40.360
<v Speaker 4>in the description below. And there's not just these kinds

2960
02:38:40.399 --> 02:38:42.319
<v Speaker 4>of minted coins. There's all kinds of coins that they

2961
02:38:42.319 --> 02:38:42.840
<v Speaker 4>have out there.

2962
02:38:42.879 --> 02:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>There's whole bricks.

2963
02:38:44.040 --> 02:38:47.559
<v Speaker 4>I've hailed in my hand a ten thousand ounce bar

2964
02:38:48.040 --> 02:38:50.799
<v Speaker 4>of pure silver that was insane. I never held that

2965
02:38:50.920 --> 02:38:52.840
<v Speaker 4>kind of real weight of silver before.

2966
02:38:52.879 --> 02:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>If you want to.

2967
02:38:53.319 --> 02:38:56.239
<v Speaker 4>Buy it coocsilver dot com. You want to buy that

2968
02:38:56.280 --> 02:38:56.920
<v Speaker 4>same amount of.

2969
02:38:56.920 --> 02:38:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Gold First of all, what do you do for work

2970
02:38:59.479 --> 02:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>if you're a four and that?

2971
02:39:00.399 --> 02:39:02.520
<v Speaker 4>But secondly, if you can get it now would be

2972
02:39:02.559 --> 02:39:05.280
<v Speaker 4>the time to buy before it even goes up more again,

2973
02:39:05.639 --> 02:39:08.680
<v Speaker 4>cocsilver dot com link is in the description below, but

2974
02:39:08.799 --> 02:39:10.719
<v Speaker 4>another way that you could support the show and also

2975
02:39:10.840 --> 02:39:13.520
<v Speaker 4>let us know what you think about these jars? Are

2976
02:39:13.520 --> 02:39:16.520
<v Speaker 4>we out of our minds? Are the archaeologists rights? Tell

2977
02:39:16.600 --> 02:39:18.879
<v Speaker 4>us what you think in the comments. What you could

2978
02:39:18.879 --> 02:39:22.000
<v Speaker 4>do is please at this time hit the five stars,

2979
02:39:22.079 --> 02:39:23.879
<v Speaker 4>hit the shares of licens christs comments. They well post

2980
02:39:23.879 --> 02:39:25.760
<v Speaker 4>a review of shares the defensive family shares. If we're

2981
02:39:25.760 --> 02:39:28.239
<v Speaker 4>here's the deal. The more activity the algorithm sees across

2982
02:39:28.319 --> 02:39:30.559
<v Speaker 4>all of our listening platforms, the more we get promoted

2983
02:39:30.559 --> 02:39:32.799
<v Speaker 4>to more potential listeners. Who can that become potential cult

2984
02:39:32.840 --> 02:39:35.000
<v Speaker 4>members like theres you final, ladies and gentlemen, why are

2985
02:39:35.000 --> 02:39:36.920
<v Speaker 4>you ready to go check out metamistery Jonathan's other show and

2986
02:39:36.959 --> 02:39:38.280
<v Speaker 4>getting the same level of respect over there with the

2987
02:39:38.319 --> 02:39:40.440
<v Speaker 4>five star reviews and the positivity in the comments. Come

2988
02:39:40.520 --> 02:39:42.360
<v Speaker 4>check out the Cage to Night and come join each

2989
02:39:42.360 --> 02:39:44.520
<v Speaker 4>of us for our individual patroons and we host every

2990
02:39:44.520 --> 02:39:45.799
<v Speaker 4>Wednesday night at nine pm.

2991
02:39:45.600 --> 02:39:47.719
<v Speaker 1>Central, and we thank you for everybody's already gone and

2992
02:39:47.760 --> 02:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>done so.

2993
02:39:48.200 --> 02:39:51.319
<v Speaker 3>And with that being said, this was another beautiful episode

2994
02:39:51.360 --> 02:39:55.360
<v Speaker 3>of the Cult of Conspiracy. And my name's Jonathan, I'm Jacob.

2995
02:39:55.399 --> 02:39:57.799
<v Speaker 3>And there's one very important, extremely vital piece of information

2996
02:39:57.799 --> 02:40:00.639
<v Speaker 3>we need you to learn just as soon as humanly possible.

2997
02:40:00.879 --> 02:40:35.479
<v Speaker 4>Fish that's.

2998
02:41:08.280 --> 02:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>No better off that fire lie, so

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<v Speaker 3>To speak,
