Speaker 1: You created everything, what put a powerful being you are.
Speaker 1: You did these things, but now you're in a human body,
Speaker 1: you forget the power you have.
Speaker 2: What you do is what the whole universe is doing
Speaker 2: at the place you call here, and now you are
Speaker 2: something the whole universe is doing, in the same way
Speaker 2: that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing.
Speaker 1: You're doing doing what you imagination. Welcome to metimistics, where
Speaker 1: you don't know what you don't know. My name's Jonathan,
Speaker 1: I'm Sean. And today we were actually supposed to have
Speaker 1: a guest and uh, and then we were like, well,
Speaker 1: then that guest had something come up. It's okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: life happens. Life gets in the way sometimes. But we
Speaker 1: decided that we were gonna start, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: continuing reading our tarot book, The seventy eight Degrees of
Speaker 1: Wisdom by Rachel Pollock. But then, I don't know, dude,
Speaker 1: just ever since that trip and I nobody wants to
Speaker 1: hear about somebody else's trip all the time. I totally
Speaker 1: get it, but it's kind of something that is weighing
Speaker 1: heavy on us. It's kind of been a wild ride
Speaker 1: since then.
Speaker 3: If you will, it's not even so much the trip itself.
Speaker 3: It's just where do we go now, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. We're just trying to find our way out
Speaker 3: of this, out of these weeds, if you will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And so we were like, well,
Speaker 1: so last night I smoked some of the Divine Herb,
Speaker 1: and I was reminded of something that I actually thought
Speaker 1: about that night of the trip, and that is that
Speaker 1: maybe to keep yourself from going crazy, because I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie, dude, going over all of this different spiritual stuff,
Speaker 1: it will crack and splinter and shatter and fragment and yeah,
Speaker 1: all the other words of breaking up your mind in
Speaker 1: almost every possible way. Now, I don't think that it's
Speaker 1: attacking us by any means. I think that it's actually,
Speaker 1: you know, like what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
Speaker 1: kind of thing, but spiritually. And so I was like,
Speaker 1: there's this word that kept on it kept on coming up,
Speaker 1: and it just said, anchor, anchor, anchor. You need to
Speaker 1: find an anchor, like a spiritual anchor, something to hang
Speaker 1: your hat on. It's okay to be, you know, a
Speaker 1: spiritually eclectic, which we like to believe that we are,
Speaker 1: you know, eclectic and kind of dabbling into a little
Speaker 1: bit of everything here and pulling from there and leaving
Speaker 1: what doesn't vibe and keeping what does. But I was like,
Speaker 1: what would be my personal anchor? And Sean, maybe you'll
Speaker 1: agree with it, maybe you won't. I mean, everybody's different,
Speaker 1: but what is that anchor? And I started to think
Speaker 1: about it. It makes sense that you would need an
Speaker 1: anchor if you really think about it. So, of course,
Speaker 1: over the last five plus years, I have been hosting
Speaker 1: the Cult of Conspiracy, right, And within the conspiracy realm,
Speaker 1: you're going to talk about a secret societies a lot,
Speaker 1: namely the Freemasons of course, right, because it was the
Speaker 1: Freemasons that went on the Moon and yeah, whatever, right,
Speaker 1: And so you're looking at all the secret handshakes, and
Speaker 1: you know, all the different sayings and some of the
Speaker 1: practices that they practiced on a daily basis. And then
Speaker 1: you find out that did you know that in order
Speaker 1: to become a Freemason you have to have, for a
Speaker 1: lack of a better word, an anchored belief in something.
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense, dude, you have to bring
Speaker 1: something in there. And so a lot of them they'll
Speaker 1: they'll just go in with the Bible, right, like this
Speaker 1: is my anchor, this is my core, Like, this is
Speaker 1: my foundation. I'm gonna hang my hat on this, and
Speaker 1: maybe I'll look a little bit deeper into it and
Speaker 1: I'll understand some you know, some some esoteric meanings to
Speaker 1: all of it or something like that. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it makes a whole lot of sense,
Speaker 1: because you know, most Freemasons, whenever you get to that
Speaker 1: deepest level, that thirty second degree, that thirty third degree,
Speaker 1: however far you go, you understand that there's a higher truth,
Speaker 1: even above the God that you believed in, which is
Speaker 1: actually some people will say that whenever you see that
Speaker 1: Freemason symbol, it stands for Grand architect. So if you
Speaker 1: ever seen that, the idea is is that they believe
Speaker 1: in a grand Architect. Maybe you want to call that God.
Speaker 1: Maybe you want to call that the Creator. Maybe you
Speaker 1: want to call that the divine one consciousness. But in
Speaker 1: this case, I was thinking about what maybe mine would be.
Speaker 1: And we've said it before, but I think it's time
Speaker 1: for a little relearning and maybe trying to understand it
Speaker 1: at even a deeper level. And that is the seven
Speaker 1: Hermetic principles. It's something that I always go back to
Speaker 1: because it you can't you can't prove it.
Speaker 3: Wrong, rightmos is It's not one of those things that
Speaker 3: you have to even have a just an extraordinary imagination
Speaker 3: to really vibe with. You can look at the principles
Speaker 3: and go, okay, that makes sense, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's not something that.
Speaker 3: Is just so out there that you have to have
Speaker 3: like the most amount of faith to even allow it
Speaker 3: to be part of your reality. I feel like this
Speaker 3: is one of those things that it just is, you know,
Speaker 3: like this is just what we observe in nature. It's
Speaker 3: nothing that crazy.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's not, And it's it. It really gets
Speaker 1: right to the core of a lot of things. It
Speaker 1: doesn't tell you to believe in this so that you
Speaker 1: believe in that, so that you believe in that. It's
Speaker 1: that these are the core foundational understandings of all reality.
Speaker 1: And what's beautiful about the seven Harmatic Principles is is
Speaker 1: that literally every single religion can fit into it, every
Speaker 1: single form of spirituality can fit into it. Even if
Speaker 1: you're an atheist, it will strengthen you to become the
Speaker 1: best atheist and then ultimately lead you ultimately lead you
Speaker 1: into believing in something. But it's it. It literally, it
Speaker 1: corrals and it harnesses every other belief. You can throw
Speaker 1: every other belief in there, and it's a beautiful tool
Speaker 1: to have as a foundational, anchored core belief. And so
Speaker 1: since we've been kind of going through it here ever
Speaker 1: since that lovely or not so lovely trip, thought, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think that this is a little
Speaker 1: bit more important right now. And we are but fools
Speaker 1: on the fool's journey, so let's learn a little bit. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: And you know, like you were saying earlier, as far
Speaker 3: as us being more of the eclectic, you know, it's
Speaker 3: not like I'm sure people would say, oh, so you
Speaker 3: just believe everything you hear, you know. It's it's we
Speaker 3: take what we really vibe with and everything else that
Speaker 3: kind of doesn't really make a whole lot of sense
Speaker 3: to us. We kind of just let it go and
Speaker 3: it is what it is, you know. And so but
Speaker 3: that being said, it's like, if we have so many
Speaker 3: different things that we can look at and say, Okay,
Speaker 3: there's some validity to this, there's some validity to that.
Speaker 3: But let's have some parameters that we can run all
Speaker 3: of those things through, you know, and if it doesn't
Speaker 3: vibe with three or four of the hermetic principles, then well, okay,
Speaker 3: then maybe there's something there that we need to investigate.
Speaker 3: And maybe it's not even something we should pay too
Speaker 3: much attention to even.
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost just look at it like it is a
Speaker 1: known law, like a fact, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and build everything from that. And this is not for everybody,
Speaker 1: not everybody, Like, we're not an echo chamber by any means.
Speaker 1: This is just us trying to put the pieces that
Speaker 1: were splintered away from us back together into somewhat of
Speaker 1: a formidable structure that we can kind of stand on
Speaker 1: a little bit. Otherwise you just keep on like you
Speaker 1: just keep on being pulled by the quicksand that is
Speaker 1: your mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just keep piling it on and piling it on.
Speaker 3: Before you know it, It's like you're looking through a
Speaker 3: kaleidoscope instead of a telescope, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So yeah, man, I'm not gonna lie, like I think
Speaker 3: people will underestimate how it feels to have anxiety or
Speaker 3: to have depression, or to have any of these things
Speaker 3: that people really they really go through this shit. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And so until you really experience
Speaker 3: something that is existential or something just completely out of
Speaker 3: your hands and it just puts you through it, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, you'll never really understand what that feels like,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: And so I'm not gonna lie, dude. The last couple
Speaker 1: of days, I've been feeling a.
Speaker 3: Little bit anxious, you know, and I've been still contemplating,
Speaker 3: like how I normally do. I'm constantly thinking about, you know,
Speaker 3: whether it's consciousness or just the different ways of understanding consciousness.
Speaker 1: And and this this universe that seems.
Speaker 3: To be at least what I was gathering was you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty chaotic, you know, it can definitely be chaotic.
Speaker 3: And so man, who am I in this chaotic universe?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? And so let me, let
Speaker 3: me let's let's let's dive into this, dude, and see
Speaker 3: if we can uh put the pieces back.
Speaker 1: Well, the beautiful thing about that is is it's not
Speaker 1: only who am I, but the journey to discovering who
Speaker 1: am I not might be a little bit more profound
Speaker 1: or importantly yes, yes, so uh yeah, oh, And before
Speaker 1: we even get going with that, I do want to
Speaker 1: say so from this point on, we keep on getting
Speaker 1: strikes on our YouTube channel, and it's because I don't know,
Speaker 1: they're very nonchalant and they're they're not necessarily you know,
Speaker 1: telling us what their take down, why they're taking it down.
Speaker 1: There's not even a dispute button, and we got a
Speaker 1: couple of strikes so far. So I do want to
Speaker 1: say there's a chance that we get our YouTube channel
Speaker 1: taken away from us. So I think in order to
Speaker 1: try and preserve it, maybe what we'll do is maybe
Speaker 1: we'll just throw one show up there a week or
Speaker 1: something like that, and if you want to be able
Speaker 1: to get the rest of the shows, then you'll be
Speaker 1: able to listen to it on Spotify or Rapple podcast
Speaker 1: or over at Patreon. Because I'm not gonna lie, dude,
Speaker 1: I've been playing this YouTube charade thing for years, and
Speaker 1: I thought maybe I learned my lesson with all of
Speaker 1: the different conspiracy shows that I've been a part of.
Speaker 1: The you know, we got kicked off of YouTube from
Speaker 1: the COLT. We got kicked off four times, like have
Speaker 1: four channels taken down and that was all in like
Speaker 1: the first year and a half. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that we're going to be moving more toward free speech.
Speaker 1: We believe in free speech. We believe that you should
Speaker 1: be able to say what you want to say. Of course,
Speaker 1: we're never going to be purposefully ignorant, you know, We're
Speaker 1: never going to try and you know, take anybody down
Speaker 1: or judge anybody or make fun of anybody or we
Speaker 1: don't do that over here, no see. And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: I don't even think really that because for the most part, dude,
Speaker 3: other than trying to allow people or not allow people,
Speaker 3: but inform people that you know, they can take their
Speaker 3: power back and you know that they are something more,
Speaker 3: you know, other than that, dude, It's not like we
Speaker 3: can control what our guests say. And the last thing
Speaker 3: I want to do is to tell a guest, Hey,
Speaker 3: don't say this word, don't say that one. Don't you
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And so that kind of just
Speaker 3: it makes it weird. It sits a wrong tone or
Speaker 3: sits the wrong vibe for kind of the remainder of
Speaker 3: that show, you know, So like I would prefer not
Speaker 3: to have that in the back of my mind, you know.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, And it's not fun. I like to say
Speaker 1: what's on my mind, I'm trying to get a little
Speaker 1: bit better with my cussing. Maybe that's what got us
Speaker 1: in trouble. I don't know, but I think, yeah, moving forward,
Speaker 1: I think we're just going to throw one up there
Speaker 1: a week, will throw more clips and everything up there too.
Speaker 1: For anybody that is like more on YouTube than on
Speaker 1: anything else, totally get it. But yeah, that's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna be doing moving forward. Also, I did want to
Speaker 1: say two, we're going to be moving down to one
Speaker 1: episode a week on the Cult of Conspiracy, and this
Speaker 1: is because we are trying to build up our own
Speaker 1: network more so than kind of we felt that we
Speaker 1: feel that we've been on the Cult of Conspiracy as
Speaker 1: a launch pad for long enough and that it is
Speaker 1: time now. So I think we're going to do a
Speaker 1: few more shows that we're going to be putting on
Speaker 1: the Cult here, just the remainder of November, but starting
Speaker 1: December first, whenever our show would drop, we're only going
Speaker 1: to be posting on the Cult of Conspiracy every Friday
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Speaker 1: always something fun. It's always in around we don't you know,
Speaker 1: like silence our listeners or anything like that. If you
Speaker 1: have something to say, raise your hand, we'll call on you.
Speaker 1: You say whatever you want to say, or you can
Speaker 1: just drop it in the chat. We'll read it either way.
Speaker 1: We want it. We want this to be a very
Speaker 1: inclusive show, yeah, dude.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what it's all about, man, you know,
Speaker 3: because we are only one person each, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, and all of these people, everybody's having their
Speaker 3: own experiences, and there's no way that we can understand
Speaker 3: it all just from our own perspective. And so I
Speaker 3: think the more people we can hear from the better.
Speaker 3: And I think that's gonna help a lot of people,
Speaker 3: you know, to to hear all these different experiences and
Speaker 3: really kind of see just the the vast web of
Speaker 3: experience that there is in this universe, you know.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, we want to be all inclusive. We want
Speaker 1: to bring in all realms of thought. We don't know
Speaker 1: what we don't know. That's a great philosopher, and one
Speaker 1: said it turns out it was Aristotle, I believe. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, dude, come and check us out. We're only
Speaker 1: growing a lot of big, awesome things that we're working
Speaker 1: on here for the future to really try and just
Speaker 1: blow this the frick up. Since we're on YouTube still,
Speaker 1: I thought I felt like they used to be able
Speaker 1: to say the for it over there. Maybe they still are,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but either way, Yes, tonight we are
Speaker 1: getting a little bit deeper into the seven Hermetic Principles
Speaker 1: to a deeper value, and diving in as far as
Speaker 1: we can possibly go, as far as our minds can comprehend,
Speaker 1: is where we're going to be going tonight. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: we're reading through those cracks. Baby. If you're watching on
Speaker 1: YouTube or on Patreon, you'll notice I am in a
Speaker 1: garage right now. And that's because I'm in Louisiana for
Speaker 1: the holiday season and uh, spending time with the kids
Speaker 1: and everything, and so I'm over at my sister's house.
Speaker 1: This is her garage. It's a little toasty in here,
Speaker 1: so I got this little baby fan blowing on me
Speaker 1: right now. Luckily it's the winter time. Is it winter
Speaker 1: yet or is it still technically fall? I think it's
Speaker 1: technically fall, but who knows? What do I know? Dude?
Speaker 1: I mean it's seventy five degrees.
Speaker 3: Out, Dude, I don't know anything now, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: going to approach everything like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because every time I'm wrong, it's fine. I'm good with that,
Speaker 1: because I'm learning something. I want to be wrong. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the thing, and that's not it.
Speaker 3: I'm wrong and someone's like explains it to me, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, that makes a lot more sense. Actually,
Speaker 3: Then I start to wonder, like what else? What other
Speaker 3: illusions am I living under?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Just that lying tone.
Speaker 3: Of what reality really is, and you're just wrong about it.
Speaker 1: And it's not a cocky thing to want to be wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't think that at all. I think it's actually
Speaker 1: the opposite that you know, you want to You feel
Speaker 1: like you have a pretty good understanding of certain things,
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to spirituality and other forms of it,
Speaker 1: but whenever somebody can step in and absolutely convince you
Speaker 1: otherwise that it cannot be that it has to be this.
Speaker 1: We're all ears, baby, we want to listen to it,
Speaker 1: we want to hear it. We have a we have
Speaker 1: an opinion about what ghosts are, could be totally wrong.
Speaker 1: I have no idea, to be honest, I don't have
Speaker 1: a I don't have a dog in that fight. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the the Big Grimbowski to come on
Speaker 1: and he was actually supposed to come on tonight. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be coming on here this week at some point
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll be able to convince us otherwise as
Speaker 1: to what ghosties actually are.
Speaker 3: I definitely want his perspective though, you know, because there's
Speaker 3: definitely something to it when somebody's like very much so
Speaker 3: immersed within, you know, having these types of experiences. I mean,
Speaker 3: you're going to haunted houses and you're actually experiencing a
Speaker 3: spirit or maybe the door opens by itself or something
Speaker 3: like that, and like, what does that feel like?
Speaker 1: And is it you that's making that happen?
Speaker 3: Or you know what is it really something outside of
Speaker 3: you who I don't know yet, you.
Speaker 1: Know, but maybe it's both. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like it probably is something to that effect,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: So But anyway, yeah, dude, so all right, we are
Speaker 1: going to get to it, and this is going to be.
Speaker 1: Actually I wanted to read this website here. It's actually
Speaker 1: an awesome website because I was like, is a spiritual
Speaker 1: anchor even a thing? Like? Or was that just a
Speaker 1: weird thought that I had? And turns out I was
Speaker 1: tapping into the fucking ether with this bad boy, and
Speaker 1: a spiritual anchor absolutely is a thing. And this website
Speaker 1: that we're gonna be reading from, we're not gonna you
Speaker 1: know what, I'll share it just for a moment, but
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to like, I don't, I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody wants to see, you know, the website if we're
Speaker 1: going to be reading it and everything. But this is
Speaker 1: the website rate here. It is actually from spiritual arc
Speaker 1: dot com and very very interesting. It's not too in
Speaker 1: terribly long, but it'll give us a little bit better
Speaker 1: of an understanding as as to what like a spiritual
Speaker 1: anchor is. And so we're gonna be going all the
Speaker 1: way in saying great down here. Okay, so what does
Speaker 1: anchor mean spiritually? And how can it ground you in
Speaker 1: turbulent times? Yeah, well we need a little bit of that.
Speaker 1: Have you ever felt lost or overwhelmed in your life?
Speaker 1: Maybe you've searched for something to keep you grounded when
Speaker 1: everything feels very chaotic. That's where the concept of an
Speaker 1: anchor comes in. Spiritually, an anchor represents stability, security, and
Speaker 1: a connection to your true self. In this article, you'll
Speaker 1: explore what it means to have an anchor in your
Speaker 1: spiritual journey. You'll discover how it can help you find
Speaker 1: peace amidst the storms of life and guide you towards
Speaker 1: clarity and purpose. Understanding this powerful symbol can lead to
Speaker 1: a deeper sense of fulfillment and strength and your everyday experiences.
Speaker 1: So let's uncover the significance of an anchor and how
Speaker 1: it can transform your spiritual path. So understanding the concept
Speaker 1: of an anchor, an anchor is a spiritual con or,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. An anchor in a spiritual context serves as
Speaker 1: a source of stability and grounding. It represents your connection
Speaker 1: to your core beliefs and values, helping you to navigate
Speaker 1: life's uncertainties. When you have a spiritual anchor, you established
Speaker 1: a sense of peace and direction. So the characteristics of
Speaker 1: a spiritual anchor would be four things here, so strength, clarity, connection,
Speaker 1: and purpose. Strength would be a strong anchor provides resilience
Speaker 1: in challenging situations, and it keeps you steady when when
Speaker 1: you're faced with life storms makes sense, which is I
Speaker 1: think that's probably the biggest one. I would imagine.
Speaker 3: Definitely the aspects I've noticed greatly just within the last
Speaker 3: two years. Just the growth from two years ago to
Speaker 3: now has been just exponential.
Speaker 1: Dude. Yeah, handling handling those types of situations anyway, and
Speaker 1: you'll see, like a lot of people in spiritual practices,
Speaker 1: they have certain protections, right Maybe they'll put a circle
Speaker 1: of salt around them, or a circle assault around their house,
Speaker 1: or I believe one of them puts it like on
Speaker 1: your door or around the edges of your door. Either way.
Speaker 1: Some people will use age or incense, or maybe they'll
Speaker 1: use an incantation or something along those lines. Maybe they'll
Speaker 1: call upon a specific deity whenever they feel like they
Speaker 1: are being spiritually attacked, or if they're just going through
Speaker 1: a little bit of unluckiness in their life, whatever the
Speaker 1: case may be. Some people like to have that anchor,
Speaker 1: so that protection, that strength that they know that they
Speaker 1: can rely on whenever shit starts to hit the fan. Dude,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: You know, I used to think that maybe doing stuff
Speaker 3: like that was like I mean, okay, I understand it's
Speaker 3: of the mind. You know, this is kind of how
Speaker 3: I was approaching that. And Dude, after everything that happened
Speaker 3: and just kind of the way my mind has been
Speaker 3: processing things and kind of looking at certain aspects of
Speaker 3: just my existence, right, I feel like it's not even
Speaker 3: that crazy anymore, you know, just to have that little
Speaker 3: extra omph, you know what I mean, under the in
Speaker 3: the in the undertones of just existing. So yes, I
Speaker 3: got my thalt set up. Dude, Like I'm good, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, at least I'm fifteen percent better,
Speaker 3: more protected or whatever.
Speaker 1: Something. Yeah, something is always better than nothing, especially whenever
Speaker 1: you feel like you're losing control. And the fact of
Speaker 1: the matter is is that we are human in this
Speaker 1: current incarnation, right, Like we're not always going to be
Speaker 1: tough in the eye of danger or you know, whatever
Speaker 1: kind of negativity is coming your way, like we have
Speaker 1: you know, ebbs and flows, ups and downs, peaks and valleys.
Speaker 1: Like you know, not every day is your best day.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can you can affirm it, you know,
Speaker 1: every day in your life, but some days are going
Speaker 1: to be a little bit easier than others, right, Like,
Speaker 1: and maybe that has something to do with fucking mercury,
Speaker 1: mercury being in retrograde or whatever your charge says, right,
Speaker 1: And so in times like that where you're not feeling
Speaker 1: so sure, it's good to have a sense of protection
Speaker 1: and and this is just one of the ways. So
Speaker 1: you would have the strength, So you would need the
Speaker 1: strength of the spiritle of the spiritual anchor. Nextly, you
Speaker 1: would need the clarity. So an anchor allows you to
Speaker 1: focus on what truly matters. It clears distractions guiding your
Speaker 1: decisions and actions, which I think is very important. Your
Speaker 1: care is huge.
Speaker 3: After that experience, man, I don't mean to cut you off,
Speaker 3: but I'm just trying to relay it to what I've
Speaker 3: been going through.
Speaker 1: Just for me personally, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: HiT's home.
Speaker 3: The clarity of what's important, dude, was just so obvious,
Speaker 3: you know, like Wow, all the little things and all
Speaker 3: the stupid bullshit that that you would tend to worry about,
Speaker 3: and then you realize, like, oh, my family.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Like I need to focus
Speaker 1: on them. That's it. Everything else is just illusion distress.
Speaker 1: For Gayzy for ghazi. Yes.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Nextly you would have the connection whenever it comes to
Speaker 1: the anchor. So anchors connect you to your true self
Speaker 1: and others. They strengthen your sense of community and belonging.
Speaker 1: So this is whatever your anchor is, the connection yours,
Speaker 1: your personal connection to it is what is. These are
Speaker 1: all things that are going to keep you anchored to
Speaker 1: your anchor, which would be your strength, clarity, connection, and purpose.
Speaker 1: Next one being the purpose or the purpose rather uh
Speaker 1: the purpose It says they instill a sense of purpose
Speaker 1: in daily activities. Anchors remind you of your goals and ambitions,
Speaker 1: so that's pretty awesome. There there are types of spiritual anchors.
Speaker 1: There's plenty of them. They're only going to name a
Speaker 1: few here. So number one would be a personal mantra,
Speaker 1: which is interesting. And you know what, this reminds me
Speaker 1: of Leo DiCaprio and Inception spinning the little top that
Speaker 1: was like his anchor that helped him realize that he
Speaker 1: was in physical reality. Right, This is kind of like
Speaker 1: that in a sense. I mean, you're not trying to
Speaker 1: you're not trying to discern whether you're in the dream
Speaker 1: world or in physical reality. You're trying to say, you're
Speaker 1: trying to almost rest on something that you know stands
Speaker 1: and represents something bigger and stronger and powerful, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Even if it even if it is
Speaker 1: only an archetype, you your mind doesn't know the difference
Speaker 1: between what an archetype is and what an actual god
Speaker 1: or deity whatever is. Right, And so this is why
Speaker 1: belief is so powerful, right, and so a personal mantra
Speaker 1: being one of those awesome So it says the personal mantra,
Speaker 1: It says reciting a personal mantra can center your thoughts.
Speaker 1: This verbal affirmation reinforces your beliefs and intentions.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, because I mean, think about it, man, how
Speaker 3: often do we go astray? Just during the day or
Speaker 3: during the week or whatever, you start to think about
Speaker 3: things that are not even maybe it's all your imagination.
Speaker 3: You're just kind of making these things up in your
Speaker 3: your head because your brain's just doing what it's absolutely
Speaker 3: designed to do. It's coming up with scenarios, it's coming
Speaker 3: up with sometimes it's coming up with the worst possible
Speaker 3: situations possible, you know. And so I feel like there's
Speaker 3: times where we can become we can go a little astray,
Speaker 3: you know, you start to almost, like you said, it's
Speaker 3: a you're you're kind of creating that that egg or
Speaker 3: gore of of something, and it feels so real. All
Speaker 3: of a sudden, your subconscious mind doesn't even know the difference.
Speaker 3: And so your body, your bio, literally your biology is
Speaker 3: starting to respond to that, and it's starting to throw
Speaker 3: off the what what's that that chemical I was thinking
Speaker 3: about this earlier, the stress chemical?
Speaker 1: Oh, cortisol, Cortisol.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, now your cortisol levels are going up.
Speaker 3: Your your body is starting to inflame and you know,
Speaker 3: heartburn or whatever, whatever.
Speaker 1: The case is.
Speaker 3: And so you have that little top dude, and you
Speaker 3: can kind of just remind yourself, Okay, that's that's the imagination.
Speaker 3: This is what's important. Let me just kind of remember that.
Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, well, in the idea about a mantra, something
Speaker 1: that you repeat to yourself to bring you back to
Speaker 1: equilibrium essentially, So imagine a mantra and one of my
Speaker 1: my personal favorite mantra I always say this during meditation.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it would have helped me during
Speaker 1: that fucking chaotic trip, but yeah, I am not the body.
Speaker 1: I'm not even the mind, right that is, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that would have helped me during that trip,
Speaker 1: but probably would have fucked me up even more. But
Speaker 1: I would have threw you out way farther. I'd have
Speaker 1: been like, I don't even exist then, is what you're
Speaker 1: trying to say, you know, But the the You know,
Speaker 1: if if I would have used that, and maybe if
Speaker 1: I would have used it for the better, used it
Speaker 1: positively during that during that time, maybe if I would
Speaker 1: have thought, oh, it's just my mind in my body
Speaker 1: attacking me. It's not actually me that is going through this.
Speaker 1: I'm hooked on, you know, I'm leached on to this
Speaker 1: ride for as long as my human body avat our
Speaker 1: meat suit is is alive. Right, But I can separate
Speaker 1: myself in times like that and almost transmute it by saying,
Speaker 1: I'm not the body, I'm not even the mind. It's
Speaker 1: just an example of a mantra that maybe would bring
Speaker 1: you back to equilibrium. Oh for sure, dude.
Speaker 3: I often wonder that how much of your thoughts are
Speaker 3: actually your thoughts?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Is it just you observing the thoughts? You know, because
Speaker 3: like I said before, your brain's constantly coming up with
Speaker 3: things and you'll have a thought out of nowhere that
Speaker 3: you didn't necessarily at least you the observer you know,
Speaker 3: that responds to said thoughts, didn't physically or mentally put
Speaker 3: that together. And then you know, stand it up and
Speaker 3: look at it like it was just something that kind
Speaker 3: of passed by, like the cloud. So it's like, how
Speaker 3: much of that is actually you?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And so if this thing is happening just almost automatically,
Speaker 3: just depending on the experiences that you're having in different
Speaker 3: chemicals firing off in your mind, you know, and then
Speaker 3: you start to invest in that, you know, now you're
Speaker 3: making this thing that isn't even you your reality.
Speaker 1: Well, I think, you know, And I was putting a
Speaker 1: little bit of thought into this the other night. And
Speaker 1: this is what is so fascinating and powerful about a
Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote perceived bad trip. There's no such
Speaker 1: thing as a bad trip, first of all, I do,
Speaker 1: and I know that that gets said all the time,
Speaker 1: and in the moment you're definitely going to disagree with it.
Speaker 1: But after sitting with it and and thinking about it,
Speaker 1: there is nothing that transforms you more than something like that.
Speaker 1: And I can say that from my own personal standpoint Sean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've probably learned a lot about yourself and
Speaker 1: the nature of your being and about where you want
Speaker 1: to go moving forward as a result of this bad trip, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, That's the one thing I've been thinking about the
Speaker 3: most as far as like, how is.
Speaker 1: This going to transmute?
Speaker 3: Because it's going to Ultimately, I know that every bad
Speaker 3: experience that I've ever had has always led me to
Speaker 3: understand something better. And so that pendulum swinging all the
Speaker 3: way back into quote unquote bad trip or the bad experience,
Speaker 3: it's got to swing back the other way at some point.
Speaker 1: And so that's the.
Speaker 3: Thing that's been kind of keeping me going, keeping me
Speaker 3: from becoming a little more nihilistic, you know, just in
Speaker 3: this time, because I feel like it's still a little unstable,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's not not completely unstable,
Speaker 3: but I feel like I'm still putting the pieces back together,
Speaker 3: and there's moments of like dread or anxiety that I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not used to that, Like what's going on?
Speaker 3: I thought I totally conquered that, you know, And so yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: so it's just a matter of how is this going
Speaker 3: to transmute? Into the best way possible. And I already
Speaker 3: see a lot of the positives. Don't get me wrong,
Speaker 3: I'm not like completely lost in the weeds, but it's
Speaker 3: definitely there's still a little bit of a lingering something yeah,
Speaker 3: that maybe I'm still figuring out. I haven't completely you know,
Speaker 3: calculated it in my mind, but I know once that
Speaker 3: little switch flips, it's going to be just amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's and that's kind of what I'm alluding to.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: how can I be this disgruntled and this fragmented over something?
Speaker 1: Whenever I feel like, man, we've been really hammering down
Speaker 1: this spiritual path. How is it that we're having such
Speaker 1: a hard time placing it all back together and fucking
Speaker 1: at least, you know, putting it together with some Elmer's glue,
Speaker 1: just temporarily right. And and so I was thinking, you
Speaker 1: know what, let's go back to what we had already learned.
Speaker 1: Things that are already i mean, so entrenched within our minds.
Speaker 1: They're basically part of us at this point. And whenever
Speaker 1: you were talking about the thoughts, I think that the thoughts,
Speaker 1: all thoughts come from the field, right and we've talked
Speaker 1: about this, that every single thought exists in the field
Speaker 1: of thought, in the field of consciousness, or if you
Speaker 1: even want to get a little hermetic with it, all
Speaker 1: is mind anyway, right, and then think about how your
Speaker 1: when literally your radio tuner is the frequency that you
Speaker 1: are is going to match in a line with whatever
Speaker 1: is already in that field. So in that field, I'm
Speaker 1: sure that all good thoughts, all happy thoughts, all naughty thoughts,
Speaker 1: if you want to take it to that level, whatever
Speaker 1: it's already exists in that field. It's about what frequency,
Speaker 1: what channel are you tuning yourself to energetically in that
Speaker 1: moment that's going to allow you to be able to
Speaker 1: receive that information in that direct moment. Now, if you're
Speaker 1: operating from a frequency of fear, well, I mean, the
Speaker 1: field's just gonna be like, say, less, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Let me fucking tune you right in you
Speaker 1: want to go to the pits of hell? Biach, I
Speaker 1: got you, right. And so unfortunately that's what we experience.
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's in the field, that's out there. We
Speaker 1: know it exists, we've experienced it. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: But but what's more important about that is that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's easier said than done. You know, if we
Speaker 1: could just always be in a happy mood all the time,
Speaker 1: of course we would much rather like that, right, Like
Speaker 1: that is the more likable experience, it's more preferable experience.
Speaker 1: But and so yeah, I think that, you know, just
Speaker 1: getting back to that, it's more of the frequency. Okay,
Speaker 1: makes sense that we align to that totally. As far
Speaker 1: as getting back to this, going back to that foundational
Speaker 1: truth and having that anchor this it's almost like you
Speaker 1: take fifteen steps forward and then you have a major stumbling,
Speaker 1: walking off the cliff moment in your life and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I forgot what I learned over the past
Speaker 1: couple of years. Where am I I'm stumbling, I'm fading
Speaker 1: in the nothingness? Oh wait, I'm back, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: back now. And it's just about picking up the pieces
Speaker 1: and putting them back together. So we have the mantras.
Speaker 1: What would be a mantra that would like send you back?
Speaker 1: What would be something that would help you in a
Speaker 1: moment like that? Is there anything that you could think
Speaker 1: of just it's a simple phrase that comes to your
Speaker 1: mind at all.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would have to take a minute to
Speaker 3: actually try to come up with something good, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: But can you imagine a phrase or a mantra that
Speaker 1: would be able to snap you right back into reality? Like,
Speaker 1: do you think that that exists out there for you?
Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. Okay, all right, so it does
Speaker 1: make sense that a mantra would bring you back to
Speaker 1: equilibrium a little bit. Then you agree with that absolutely, Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, it's not that crazy, you know.
Speaker 3: I just don't have one off the top of my head.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I didn't mean to put you on the
Speaker 1: spot there like that. Maybe that's good.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna come up with a good one, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Because now that you've said that, now,
Speaker 3: now I'm sitting here trying to think of what that
Speaker 3: would be, you know, And once I come up with it,
Speaker 3: I know that that's going to be the one, and
Speaker 3: that's something that that's going to be my little top.
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm going to spin.
Speaker 3: The top and be like, oh okay, everything's good and
Speaker 3: nothing is as bad as I'm imagining.
Speaker 1: I still exist. Yes, the next one would be And
Speaker 1: of course everybody loves these, we do too. Would be
Speaker 1: meditation practices. So as far as the anchor goes, a
Speaker 1: meditation practice is a great anchor. So engaging in regular
Speaker 1: meditation Foster's peace. It creates a mental space for reflection
Speaker 1: and clarity.
Speaker 3: Of course, it does definitely definitely, you know, because just
Speaker 3: lately I feel like, and maybe I'm sure you'll agree,
Speaker 3: but there is definitely a sense of disconnectiveness, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like just slightly disconnected almost like I
Speaker 3: don't know, just because you know what we experienced. I
Speaker 3: felt like, you know, just with everything that we've learned
Speaker 3: and understanding that, you know, you can create Toulpas or
Speaker 3: you can create you know, name your thing. But in
Speaker 3: that experience, when things were the absolute just nightmarish as
Speaker 3: can be, man, it was definitely just me and.
Speaker 1: Just you, you know.
Speaker 3: And it was just like okay, like that that definitely
Speaker 3: did something to me, Like it gave me this sense
Speaker 3: of I don't know, as I was saying, as far
Speaker 3: as you know, the universe almost seeming like it was
Speaker 3: just chaos, and it's our job to harness that. And
Speaker 3: so instead of letting that just be chaotic and letting
Speaker 3: it beat us down and letting it be scary. We
Speaker 3: have to harness that and create is what is tolerable, well.
Speaker 1: You know what. And as far as being a little disconnected,
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me that I used to have
Speaker 1: this buddy. He's still one of my buddies, but it
Speaker 1: was whenever I was like eighteen or nineteen years old,
Speaker 1: he used to always say this funny thing, and it
Speaker 1: was like a weird pickup line whenever we used to
Speaker 1: always go to the bars and clubs and all that
Speaker 1: shit when we were young and dumb and full of
Speaker 1: you know what. And he used to always go up
Speaker 1: to these chicks and he would go, you know, because
Speaker 1: he thought that he was so like good looking and
Speaker 1: handsome and whatever. And he used to always say, Hey,
Speaker 1: what would you think if I put a tack two
Speaker 1: of my face on my face but just a little
Speaker 1: bit to the left, would I still be handsome? You know?
Speaker 1: And it just made me, it just reminded me of
Speaker 1: that here for a second, because you know, as far
Speaker 1: as that disconnection goes, it feels like I'm I'm that
Speaker 1: tattoo of my face on my face just a little
Speaker 1: to the left right, and you're trying to find that equilibrium.
Speaker 1: You're trying to like place it back on. And that's
Speaker 1: what it kind of feels like. And and these are
Speaker 1: some of the ways to try and find that balance.
Speaker 1: Get the faces, get the tattoo, Get the fucking tattoo
Speaker 1: right off your face anyway, but these are a couple
Speaker 1: of ways that may help you with that. Another one
Speaker 1: is nature. So spending time and nature introduces tranquility. Nature's
Speaker 1: beauty acts as a reminder of life cycles and interconnectedness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like.
Speaker 3: A YouTube channel we were watching, dude. He's out there
Speaker 3: in nature, and there was something about it, dude that
Speaker 3: just like brought me just enough peace to just kind
Speaker 3: of just be able to stand that that moment.
Speaker 1: You just just by looking at nature. Yes, just by
Speaker 1: looking at nature, it makes you feel grounded. Mm hmm,
Speaker 1: you know, definitely definitely.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that disconnected disconnectiveness or whatever you want to
Speaker 3: call that, that that is definitely something I've been dealing
Speaker 3: with for sure. Yeah, when you take just think about
Speaker 3: when you meditate, dude, that you you you find that
Speaker 3: that higher self and you are just kind of observing
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. There's nothing outside of you
Speaker 3: really really uh getting to you. Nothing is causing you
Speaker 3: fear you're That is when you are probably.
Speaker 1: The most connected to to.
Speaker 3: Whatever that is, you know, your higher self or just
Speaker 3: your your being, your own being, you know. And so dude,
Speaker 3: definitely been feeling a little bit uh miss a line.
Speaker 3: You know when you look through binoculars and you have
Speaker 3: to turn that little center center knob because it like
Speaker 3: realigns the eyes and it makes it perfect for just
Speaker 3: how your eyes are. Like we're in that state right now.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, yeah, and there is something special
Speaker 1: really about nature that just brings you back to you know,
Speaker 1: just grounded reality and sometimes you need that. Dude, take
Speaker 1: your shoes off, get your toes in some dirt. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a good time. The next one would be involving
Speaker 1: yourself in a spiritual community, which is what we like
Speaker 1: to believe that we are building over here, and so
Speaker 1: connecting with like minded individuals strengthens your support system. These
Speaker 1: communities encourage sharing and growth, Yes, shared all with us.
Speaker 1: We're here, We're open to it. We want to hear
Speaker 1: about everybody's about everybody's take on this, you know. And
Speaker 1: so that's that's a little bit of that. And now,
Speaker 1: as far as the spiritual significance of an anchor. So
Speaker 1: an anchor symbolizes stability and grounding in your spiritual journey.
Speaker 1: It serves as a reminder to remain centered, especially during
Speaker 1: turbulent times. So there is the There is symbolism of
Speaker 1: anchors in different cultures, which I find to be pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: Anchors carry rich symbolism across various cultures and many maritime traditions.
Speaker 1: An anchor represents hope and safety for sailors, it ensures
Speaker 1: a safe harbor in unpredictable waters. And Western symbolism, the
Speaker 1: anchor often signifies faith and steadfastness. You might see anchors
Speaker 1: in tattoos or art as a sign of resilience. Similarly,
Speaker 1: in ancient Greece, anchors symbolized stability, and we're often associated
Speaker 1: with the goddess of love Aphrodite. Oh, I would have thought,
Speaker 1: then there's an anchor. The anchor in religious context, let's
Speaker 1: take it there. So, oh, you know, it just reminds
Speaker 1: me of his Popeye with his anchor tattoo. Hm, well
Speaker 1: you get the aw dude, you know. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: which we are going to be talking a little bit
Speaker 1: about today. Strangely enough, so the anchor in religious context
Speaker 1: so religious context also highlight the anchor's significance. In Christianity,
Speaker 1: the anchor symbolizes hope and the soul security in God.
Speaker 1: Biblical references liken hope to an anchor offering stability amid
Speaker 1: life storms. Similarly, in Hinduism, an anchor represents grounding and
Speaker 1: the connection to broader spiritual truths. For practitioners, this connection
Speaker 1: fosters peace and focus during meditation or prayer. Embracing the
Speaker 1: concept of an anchor in your personal faith can enhance
Speaker 1: your resilience and clarity in spiritual practice. So all around, dude,
Speaker 1: anchors great things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a feeling we're going to be meditating
Speaker 3: on our personal anchor.
Speaker 1: It's sweet meditation. I think that's the way to go. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: speaking of anchors, let's get to a potential anchor for
Speaker 1: anybody out there. You might be thinking, I don't need
Speaker 1: no anchor. I'm just one with the rest of everybody,
Speaker 1: and that's all the anchor I need. That's okay, right,
Speaker 1: you know, but sometimes you need something even a little
Speaker 1: bit more stable than that. Not even to say that
Speaker 1: that's unstable, but whenever you get lost in the sauce, dude,
Speaker 1: and you don't know up from down, and you don't
Speaker 1: know where the walls are, and you're just drowning in
Speaker 1: a pool of your own emotions. It can get a
Speaker 1: little dark. So now we're going to go over to
Speaker 1: the Kabbalion dot org website because we're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: a little bit about the seven Hermetic Principles. Now we've
Speaker 1: gone over this before a couple of times as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, but I figure, you know what, let's
Speaker 1: learn a little bit more, go a little bit deeper
Speaker 1: into the Kabalion written by the three Initiates, Shout out
Speaker 1: wherever you may be. Maybe you're just around here floating
Speaker 1: in the ether. What a initiate you know? But yeah, here,
Speaker 1: I'll share the screen just so everybody can check it out.
Speaker 1: This is actually the Kabalian resource page. So this is
Speaker 1: the Kabalian dot org and it's going to be touching
Speaker 1: on the seven Hermetic Principles, not very long. We're not
Speaker 1: reading a whole book this time, but I feel like
Speaker 1: this is going to be a beautiful outline of the
Speaker 1: Kabalian itself. And then we're gonna go a little bit
Speaker 1: even deeper into that as well. Are you ready, sir?
Speaker 1: I'm ready man. All right, This is a quote from
Speaker 1: the Kabalian that says, the principles of truth are seven.
Speaker 1: He who knows these understandingly possesses the magic key. Before
Speaker 1: whose touch, Before Who's touch, all the doors of the
Speaker 1: temple fly open. Let's go ho baby. So obviously I'm
Speaker 1: gonna name all the seven hermetic principles here, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna go into them a little bit deeper. So
Speaker 1: the uh So you have the first principle being mentalism,
Speaker 1: the second one correspondence, the third one vibration, the fourth
Speaker 1: one polarity, the fifth one rhythm. Then you have cause
Speaker 1: and effect, and the final one is gender. So these
Speaker 1: seven principles will be discussed and explained as we proceed
Speaker 1: with these lessons. So a short explanation of each, however,
Speaker 1: may as well be given at this point, which is
Speaker 1: what we're gonna go over. So the principle of mentalism,
Speaker 1: or otherwise known as the all is mind, the universe
Speaker 1: is mental mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It makes even more sense now that that's the first one, like,
Speaker 3: no bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're actually going to get into that. That
Speaker 1: is the actual core principle of the seven normatic principles.
Speaker 1: It is the core principle. Every all the other six keys,
Speaker 1: all the other six principles that go inside of they
Speaker 1: all go inside of this one. So they all operate
Speaker 1: from a place knowing as their foundational truth that the
Speaker 1: universe is mental, the all is mind. So otherwise to
Speaker 1: say that, like, oh, sorry, what were you saying?
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, because without mind there's nothing else.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and otherwise to say that literally everything you see,
Speaker 1: touch here tastes, smell whatever. Every relationship you've ever been in,
Speaker 1: whether it be with a significant other or a kid,
Speaker 1: or a friend, or a teacher or boss or whatever,
Speaker 1: every single experience you've ever had was with the mind. Yep.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of trippy just to say it out loud.
Speaker 1: So this principle embodies the truth that all is mind.
Speaker 1: It explains that the all, which is the substantial reality
Speaker 1: underlying all the outward manifestations and appearances, which we know
Speaker 1: under the terms of the material universe, the phenomena of life, matter, energy,
Speaker 1: and in short, all that is apparent to our material
Speaker 1: sense is spirit. So all of that is the mind.
Speaker 1: It is spirit, right, yeah, which in itself is unknowable
Speaker 1: and undefinable, almost like the dow Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was actually looking into some of these ideas
Speaker 3: as far as like one of the mean like idealism, right.
Speaker 3: I think that's what it's called. And basically that is
Speaker 3: to say, I think it's along the lines of kind
Speaker 3: of what you unders believe.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak for you, but as far
Speaker 3: as matter coming from consciousness and not and not the
Speaker 3: other way around, you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, man, I think it was last night.
Speaker 3: I was I was sitting out back on my on
Speaker 3: my porch, you know, and I was just thinking about that.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it started to make me feel like
Speaker 3: a little bit uneasy for some reason, almost like just
Speaker 3: because it's like, how does that even work?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Is it is it to say that, you know, if
Speaker 3: if something isn't being observed, then it doesn't really exist?
Speaker 3: Or does it only exist because my mind has already
Speaker 3: thought about it or has already observed it. And like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, it was just a very strange thought pattern.
Speaker 3: I started to go down, you know what I mean, like,
Speaker 3: how how is it that consciousness created matter? Because if
Speaker 3: there's no consciousness then then there would be no matter,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean pretty much observe outside of nature, and
Speaker 1: you know what you find all around in nature right
Speaker 1: outside of that, every single thing that you've ever looked
Speaker 1: at outside well maybe maybe even humans, it was all
Speaker 1: thought about before it was created. Right. And so like
Speaker 1: you if you look at a fan, you look at
Speaker 1: your garage door, I'm naming things that are in the
Speaker 1: place that I'm in right now. All of those things
Speaker 1: were once thought about before they were manifested or created. Right.
Speaker 1: And that's a very simple way of explaining it away.
Speaker 1: But that's it's much deeper than even that, right that
Speaker 1: It's almost like in quantum physics that whenever you you know,
Speaker 1: you with the double slit experiment, you give it a
Speaker 1: little bit of attention, its waveform collapses and it turns
Speaker 1: into whatever. Right, And so much to say that, you know,
Speaker 1: Adams themselves are just vibrating in an almost uncoherent form
Speaker 1: until you give them the awareness that collapses them into
Speaker 1: a physical object, which is a trip if you think
Speaker 1: about it. But at the same time, this actually instead
Speaker 1: of looking at it almost like from a worrisome point
Speaker 1: of view, look at it from a position that says
Speaker 1: all of this, it's all like it's just the mind,
Speaker 1: and the mind doesn't go anywhere. You can't kill the mind.
Speaker 1: The mind like if the if the all is mind
Speaker 1: and the universe is the mind, then that means that
Speaker 1: you're part of that, and that means that even after death,
Speaker 1: you keep on being the mind, maybe just in another form, right,
Speaker 1: And so that's where that comfort comes in. M Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the thing I think that was making it a
Speaker 3: little bit nerve racking or making me feel a little
Speaker 3: anxious was that it really brought to mind the importance
Speaker 3: of my own thoughts. You know, we say it all
Speaker 3: the time, and I'm sure people can say it's woo woo,
Speaker 3: you know, but if what everything that you just said
Speaker 3: is is reality, you know, and the thoughts that we
Speaker 3: have are literally creating potentialities. And sure maybe they won't
Speaker 3: collapse and become the thing that actually is something that
Speaker 3: we experience, it's still if I think of the worst
Speaker 3: case scenario, then that is already kind of creating that potentiality.
Speaker 3: So that now is because I thought it, now it's
Speaker 3: something that's actually possible. And so it really got me
Speaker 3: like like feeling a lot more responsible and almost like
Speaker 3: hesitant to even have a bad thought, because the more
Speaker 3: bad thoughts I have, the more potentialities I'm creating into
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 1: Almost you know, if you can think it in your mind,
Speaker 1: you can hold it in your hand. Well, it's almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, every time you have a negative thought, and
Speaker 1: I've always I've often said a few times, is that
Speaker 1: whenever you start to have a negative thought, speak it out,
Speaker 1: you know, don't speak out that negative thought. But in
Speaker 1: like once obviously these things are happening in your mind.
Speaker 1: But what's even more powerful than a thought is speaking, right,
Speaker 1: And so the word that is spoken is going to
Speaker 1: trump the thought. So if you're having a negative thought
Speaker 1: out loud, I don't who cares, You're in the middle
Speaker 1: of Walgreens. Who gives a shit? Just say no, right,
Speaker 1: and and be sure about it, and know that you
Speaker 1: have the power to dispel whatever kind of spell that
Speaker 1: you thought that you were conjuring in your mind. The
Speaker 1: word no, profoundly from a position of power, will disintegrate
Speaker 1: it absolutely. And this is just what the mind is
Speaker 1: capable of. Your mind knows that the thought, or that
Speaker 1: the thought is not as powerful as the word. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So absolutely, but yeah, that's what that's what I started
Speaker 3: to think about, man, And I was really kind of
Speaker 3: just like that was starting to fester a little bit even,
Speaker 3: and then I would have a bad thought and then
Speaker 3: I would just like, well, and I would like try
Speaker 3: to like almost try to think of something else immediately,
Speaker 3: because it was really starting to like not like super
Speaker 3: get to me do, but it was just I was
Speaker 3: noticing the the impact that that could have, you know,
Speaker 3: in just my own reality, you know, and so well.
Speaker 1: And also you know, and don't judge yourself for your thoughts,
Speaker 1: you know, because a lot of times, you know, look,
Speaker 1: if you're having sixty thousand thoughts in a day, it's
Speaker 1: kind of hard to put a harness on that. You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're just gonna have thoughts and just let them
Speaker 1: be thoughts. Don't even give them any energy, just be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't even want to think about that.
Speaker 1: It's no big deal, right or And also, you know,
Speaker 1: if every single thought is out in the field of thought,
Speaker 1: then your energy or your frequency or whatever you're giving
Speaker 1: off is for some reason attaching to that thought in
Speaker 1: that energy field that exists all around us. Right, And
Speaker 1: so whenever you start to have those thoughts just instead
Speaker 1: of even changing your thought, just almost try to consciously
Speaker 1: change your own frequency and say, you know what, I
Speaker 1: don't like this frequency. I'm gonna turn it to this
Speaker 1: other channel where it doesn't even allow me to connect
Speaker 1: to that field of thought. You know, these are like weird,
Speaker 1: like little mind things that you can do. But I mean,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if this is written down anywhere,
Speaker 1: but this is just shit that I do personally like
Speaker 1: just because I'm obsessed with this shit, and I try
Speaker 1: and think about ways to dispel it all the time.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and well when you talk about like putting yourself
Speaker 3: in a certain frequency, so when you start to really
Speaker 3: invest in those negative thoughts, I feel like, I don't
Speaker 3: know if you've ever played Star Fucks, but basically, the
Speaker 3: way the map is set up, like when you go
Speaker 3: from one planet to the next.
Speaker 1: If if you stay all the way to the left,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Hit all of the more difficult levels, Like all of
Speaker 3: those levels are just gonna be a little bit harder,
Speaker 3: you know. So I imagine it like that, if you stay
Speaker 3: within that negative frequency, it's almost like you you're forced
Speaker 3: to go a certain path, right, and so the way
Speaker 3: that your mind is working, you're going to see certain
Speaker 3: opportunities come up. And if you're in that lower vibration,
Speaker 3: then it's almost like you're gonna see more of those
Speaker 3: left you know, opportunities the more difficult, you know, and
Speaker 3: so it's gonna just lead you into maybe that original
Speaker 3: thought that you had, that worst possible scenario. You stay
Speaker 3: in that frequency, you find yourself there, you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you just for time, you're just putting
Speaker 1: yourself into that flow now. And once you become in
Speaker 1: that flow with that thought that exists out in the field,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just gonna keep on feeding it to
Speaker 1: you because you're aligned with that thought, you know. And
Speaker 1: that doesn't even necessarily have to be anything bad or good.
Speaker 1: It can just be either way, right, it can be
Speaker 1: you know, Gray, Let's say if and uh, for example,
Speaker 1: maybe you are trying to start a business. Right, if
Speaker 1: you're trying to start a business and you're trying to
Speaker 1: almost manifest it in your life, right, like all these
Speaker 1: you got like Tony Robbins and uh, what's his name?
Speaker 1: The damn I can't think of what his name is. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's weird. I just saw a video fis like today,
Speaker 1: Tony Robbins, Gary Vee, Gary Vee, That's what I was
Speaker 1: thinking of. But all those people will say that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just try and stay in that thought, like
Speaker 1: become obsessed with it. And the idea behind becoming obsessed
Speaker 1: with something is that you're now almost anchoring yourself to
Speaker 1: that thought. Right, You're anchoring yourself to that thought that
Speaker 1: connects you to the field of thought. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: call it right. And so now every time you have
Speaker 1: a thought, it is so obsessed with whatever it is
Speaker 1: that you're thinking about, because you're almost trying to pull
Speaker 1: that information in. I believe that this is how we
Speaker 1: receive downloads legit. I think that it's how we receive
Speaker 1: downloads is almost by borderline becoming obsessed with whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: we're always running on a certain frequency. But if you're
Speaker 1: always aligned to a you know, to a preferable frequency,
Speaker 1: let's just call it right, one that you would maybe
Speaker 1: you're not always aligned to it, but ideally, in a
Speaker 1: perfect world, if you could choose to, you know, pick
Speaker 1: your thoughts, then you would choose to stick to this
Speaker 1: preferable frequency allow you to be able to pull information
Speaker 1: in from that field. Damn, we're getting deep on this episode, right.
Speaker 3: No, No, but I mean that's exactly how it works, you know,
Speaker 3: because if you're staying within that that vibration, right, like
Speaker 3: if you were constantly just with that goal in mind,
Speaker 3: right and you and people say it all the time,
Speaker 3: you know, and then like I said, it sounds crazy,
Speaker 3: it sounds woo woo.
Speaker 1: But if you keep your mind.
Speaker 3: On that goal almost as if you were already that thing,
Speaker 3: you're already to that level, then you're already going to
Speaker 3: be taking those those paths that lead you to that
Speaker 3: even quicker, you know, instead of the worst case scenario,
Speaker 3: Like it just makes the most sense. Yes, it's really
Speaker 3: not even woo woo.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's just about you know, understanding your mind
Speaker 1: and all that exists outside of it. Right.
Speaker 3: But now, also, don't don't get discouraged when yeah, I've
Speaker 3: been keeping my mind on this thing, and I'm keeping
Speaker 3: my mind on this goal and I've been vibrating really high,
Speaker 3: there are still things outside that may happen, you know.
Speaker 3: I think that's where people get discouraged, myself included, you know,
Speaker 3: I experienced something that is at least in my observation
Speaker 3: something negative and then I'm like, oh, well, then what's what?
Speaker 3: Why did that happen? When I'm saying in this frequency,
Speaker 3: I'm doing everything I'm supposed to be doing. Things outside
Speaker 3: of you are going to happen. But it's about how
Speaker 3: you manage that, you know what I'm saying. You can
Speaker 3: you can have a bad experience like the one we
Speaker 3: just had, and we can let that just kind of
Speaker 3: bog us down and dismantle.
Speaker 1: You moving forward.
Speaker 3: I mean to be honest with you, man, it made
Speaker 3: me kind of question everything so much to where I
Speaker 3: was like, how am I going to jump on a
Speaker 3: microphone and tell people you know what I think when.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything.
Speaker 3: But when you really break it down, right like that
Speaker 3: kind of like humbles you. You know, it really does.
Speaker 3: And so but no, I think that makes the most sense.
Speaker 3: It really does as far as just like, yeah, things
Speaker 3: are to happen outside of you, but how do you
Speaker 3: manage it and then keep your mind on that, on
Speaker 3: that positive outcome?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost look at you know, it is the
Speaker 1: source or God or the universe or the field itself
Speaker 1: sending you little tests like little quizzes, little exams, you know, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're so aligned, let me throw this at you and
Speaker 1: make sure you're actually aligned, or if you're just like
Speaker 1: pretending to be right, you know.
Speaker 3: Instead of it being oh I don't deserve it. See
Speaker 3: I knew it can't catch a break like those are
Speaker 3: like that's going to send you the other way.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, if you think about it, those
Speaker 1: are actually little gifts. Every single time that you that
Speaker 1: you do get tested by the universe or by whatever
Speaker 1: you believe in. Every single time you get thrown a curveball,
Speaker 1: and it's almost trying to see if you are going
Speaker 1: to remain aligned or not. If you pass that test
Speaker 1: and we all go through it, I'm not even speaking
Speaker 1: fucking woo woo, because everybody has these tests, whether it's
Speaker 1: on a daily, weekly, monthly, a yearly basis, and maybe
Speaker 1: we just don't even think about it, but you're always
Speaker 1: going to be tested. But the beautiful thing is is
Speaker 1: that those tests are actually gifts because if you can
Speaker 1: remain consciously aware of your goal in the eye of
Speaker 1: the storm and you pass that test, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you become so much more anchored in your belief. It
Speaker 1: it it is a beautiful thing because that experience that
Speaker 1: we had. It could have thrown us all the way
Speaker 1: off the wagon. I mean, I'm not gonna lie literally
Speaker 1: in the middle of that chaotic trip, I thought, I'm
Speaker 1: never talking about anything fucking spiritual again. Fuck all this right,
Speaker 1: like I thought it I was. I was almost like, man,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll just go back to the conspiracy Show because
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ready, right, I don't actually
Speaker 1: be a little more scary dude. Yeah, I pulled out
Speaker 1: I pulled out the wagey board, and turns out I
Speaker 1: didn't know what I didn't know, you know kind of thing. Yep.
Speaker 1: And but no, to be honest, I'm happy I went
Speaker 1: through that. There's a beautiful way of looking at such
Speaker 1: terrible chaotic messes that you almost become a little bit
Speaker 1: more entrench once you make it out on the other side.
Speaker 1: And so yes, I think that you know, tests are
Speaker 1: you know, shrouded gifts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ultimately, if you can pull your awareness up and
Speaker 3: get through that and then say to yourself, like, I
Speaker 3: wonder how that's going to work out to.
Speaker 1: My favor, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: If you can get to your get to that point
Speaker 3: of that situation, did you're you can get through anything.
Speaker 1: Ball or shit. Yeah, so all right, we went all
Speaker 1: the way off script here, but let's uh, let's get
Speaker 1: back to it. So we were talking about how maybe
Speaker 1: I should just read all that over again because we
Speaker 1: kind of lost it. So the uh this principle talking
Speaker 1: about the h the principle of mentalism. This principle embodies
Speaker 1: the truth that all is mind. It explains that the all,
Speaker 1: which is the substantial reality underlying all the outward manifestations
Speaker 1: and appearances which we know under the terms of the
Speaker 1: material universe, the phenomena of life, matter, energy, and in short,
Speaker 1: all that is apparent to our material senses, is spirit,
Speaker 1: which in itself is unknowable and undefinable, but which may
Speaker 1: be considered and thought of as a universal, infinite living mind.
Speaker 1: It also explains that all the phenomenal world or universe
Speaker 1: is simply a mental creation of the all, subject to
Speaker 1: the laws of created things, and that the universe as
Speaker 1: a whole and in its parts or units. Damn, it's
Speaker 1: really this is like a it's almost like a law
Speaker 1: contract here, you know, right, which makes sense, And so
Speaker 1: all of its parts and its units of the universe
Speaker 1: has its existence in the mind of the all which
Speaker 1: in which in which mind we live and move and
Speaker 1: have our being. This principle, by establishing the mental nature
Speaker 1: of the universe, easily explains all of the varied mental
Speaker 1: and psychic phenomena that occupy such a large portion of
Speaker 1: the public attention, and which without such explanation are non
Speaker 1: understandable and defy oh shit, and defy scientific treatment. I
Speaker 1: love that an understanding of this great Hermetic principle of
Speaker 1: mentalism enables the individual to readily grasp the laws of
Speaker 1: the mental universe and to apply the same to this
Speaker 1: well or to his or her well being and advancement.
Speaker 1: The hermetic student is enabled to apply intelligently the great
Speaker 1: mental laws, instead of using them in a haphazard manner.
Speaker 1: With the master key in his possession or her possession,
Speaker 1: the student may unlock the many doors of the mental
Speaker 1: and psychic temple of knowledge and enter the same freely
Speaker 1: and intelligently. This principle explains the true nature of energy, power,
Speaker 1: and matter, and why and how all these are sub
Speaker 1: are subordinate to the mastery of mind. One of the
Speaker 1: old Hermetic masters wrote long ages ago in quotes he
Speaker 1: who grasps the truth of the mental nature of the
Speaker 1: universe is well advanced on the path to mastery, and
Speaker 1: these words are as true today as at the time
Speaker 1: that they were first written. Without the master key, mastery
Speaker 1: is impossible. And the student knocks in vain at the
Speaker 1: many doors of the temple. Damn, that went pretty deep, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the This is the deep shit right here. Dude.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it all right.
Speaker 3: Well, you could start just h experiencing certain things, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and really kind of get locked
Speaker 3: into a way of thinking, and then just start creating
Speaker 3: that reality right in front of you. You know, You're
Speaker 3: you're literally creating the way you experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't get me wrong. There's going to be experiences
Speaker 3: that are going to be very hard to transmitt, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like really bad shit. But you
Speaker 3: are ultimately in charge of how you are experiencing it,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's all up to you about how you experience it.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing about all this is that shit
Speaker 1: happens to everybody. You know. Maybe you might look at,
Speaker 1: you know, some other people and you might think, Oh,
Speaker 1: they don't have to go through the shit that I
Speaker 1: got to go through. Wrong, they just have found ways
Speaker 1: to be able to either I don't know, hide it
Speaker 1: or cover it up and make it look like they
Speaker 1: live in this perfect world. But I promise you every
Speaker 1: single person has to go through some level of bullshit
Speaker 1: in their life, right, And it's up to how are
Speaker 1: you going to let it affect you? Because the people
Speaker 1: out there are people out there, and there's there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with it, Like the idea of of like almost
Speaker 1: feeling right to overreact, right, Like, if somebody wrongs you, yeah,
Speaker 1: you might feel that you have a right to wrong
Speaker 1: them right back. And most people are not going to
Speaker 1: tell you anything otherwise. You know, if you get punched
Speaker 1: in the face, almost everybody out there is going to
Speaker 1: tell you should have punched him back, right, You have
Speaker 1: the right to do that. It's not always the right move,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna feel like you have the right to
Speaker 1: do it. And so ultimately you're allowing that to affect
Speaker 1: you in such a way that would bring you to
Speaker 1: a state of mind that would bring you to punching
Speaker 1: somebody else in the face. Right, And that's just an example,
Speaker 1: but yeah, oh that's a great example. Yeah. So then
Speaker 1: here you are.
Speaker 3: Having the experience of possibly going to jail because you
Speaker 3: let your emotions and everything leading up to that moment bring.
Speaker 1: You to that. Well, I had to punch him. He
Speaker 1: punched me right right. Well, you know, we'll see in court. Right.
Speaker 1: It's not to say that you don't need to hold
Speaker 1: your ground. It is just an example. But but it
Speaker 1: did mention something in here talking about the master key.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that. Okay, yeah, I need it.
Speaker 1: We are going to get to that, but first we're
Speaker 1: gonna get through the other principles here first, and then
Speaker 1: we'll get to what that master key actually means. Now, remember,
Speaker 1: whenever we're covering all of these other six principles, they're
Speaker 1: all within the first principle. The first principle corrals it
Speaker 1: is the basket that holds everything right right, So, and
Speaker 1: these other ones are shorter than that one. Obviously, it's
Speaker 1: the it's the most I don't want to say it's
Speaker 1: the most important one, but it kind of is, you know. So,
Speaker 1: next one, the second principle, is the principle of correspondence,
Speaker 1: as above, so below, as below so above. This is
Speaker 1: from the Kabalion obviously, so this principle embodies the truth
Speaker 1: that there is always a correspondence between the laws and
Speaker 1: phenomena of the various planes of being and life. The
Speaker 1: old Hermetic axiom ran in these words, as above, so below,
Speaker 1: as below, so above, And the grasping of this principle
Speaker 1: gives one the means of solving many a dark paradox
Speaker 1: and hidden secrets of nature. There are planes beyond our knowing,
Speaker 1: planes as in, like you know, mental planes, whatever you know? Uh,
Speaker 1: what is it called shit, realms? Whatever? Whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call it? Different dimensions, that's the word I was
Speaker 1: searching for. Just escape me. Maybe that's what it's referring to.
Speaker 1: But either way, there are planes beyond our knowing. But
Speaker 1: when we apply the principle of correspondence to them, we
Speaker 1: are able to understand much that would otherwise be unknowable
Speaker 1: to us. This principle is of universal application and manifestation
Speaker 1: on the various planes of the material, mental, and spiritual universe.
Speaker 1: It is a universal law. The ancient hermeticis considered this
Speaker 1: principle as one of the most important mental instruments which
Speaker 1: man was able to pry aside the obstacles which hid
Speaker 1: from his view of the unknown. Its use even tore
Speaker 1: aside the veil of isis to the extent that a
Speaker 1: glimpse of the face of the goddess might be caught. Dude,
Speaker 1: it's saying, it'll rip that fucking veil right off your
Speaker 1: goddamn face with the quickness, and it'll show you isis.
Speaker 1: You know, if you want to go there, I much
Speaker 1: rather see my girl, sec Matt. But that's that's just
Speaker 1: from me. So just as a knowledge of just as
Speaker 1: a knowledge of the principles of geometry enables man to
Speaker 1: measure distant suns and their movements while seated in his observatory,
Speaker 1: so a knowledge of the principle of correspondence enables man
Speaker 1: to reason intelligently from the known to the unknown, staying
Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, studying the monad, he understands the archangel
Speaker 1: let's go, baby. I love correspondence as above so below.
Speaker 1: It's always there, which makes sense because whatever is going
Speaker 1: to basically what it's saying is is that, and this
Speaker 1: is a way of saying it. It's not the entire
Speaker 1: way to explain it away, but how I always look
Speaker 1: at that as above so below. Well, you know, some
Speaker 1: people will say, well, as in heaven, so it is
Speaker 1: in earth right, or you can say as in the mind,
Speaker 1: so you experience in physical reality. Yes, because the below
Speaker 1: is the physical reality, the above is the mind that
Speaker 1: is connected to everything else. Perfect. So nextly we have
Speaker 1: the third principle, which is the principle of a vibration,
Speaker 1: the principle of vibration. Nothing rests, everything moves, and everything
Speaker 1: vibrates the principle. This principle embodies the truth that everything
Speaker 1: is in motion, everything vibrates, nothing is at rest, facts
Speaker 1: which modern science endorses, in which each new scientific discovery
Speaker 1: tends to verify. And yet this hermetic principle enunciated thousands
Speaker 1: of years ago by the masters of ancient Egypt. This
Speaker 1: principle explains that the differences between different manifestations of matter, energy, mind,
Speaker 1: and even spirit result largely from varying rates of vibration.
Speaker 1: From the all which is pure spirit, down to the
Speaker 1: grossest form of matter, all is in vibration. The the
Speaker 1: higher the vibration, the higher the position in the scale.
Speaker 1: The vibration of spirit is at such an er, at
Speaker 1: such an infinite rate of intensity and rapidity, that it
Speaker 1: is practically at rest. Holy shit, saying that the vibration
Speaker 1: of spirit is so crazy that it almost looks like
Speaker 1: it ain't even moving. Almost like whenever you see like
Speaker 1: a like a ceiling fan or a wheel spinning or
Speaker 1: something like that, right, you almost catch it in that
Speaker 1: it looks like it's moving so slow even though it's
Speaker 1: going like, you know, one hundred miles an hour whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You ever seen those videos where like it'll be just
Speaker 3: a recording of a helicopter, but the frame rate of
Speaker 3: the camera matches the helicopter's propellers so perfectly that it
Speaker 3: just looks like they're not moving at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's trip. Yeah, yeah, dude. So just as a
Speaker 1: rapidly moving wheel seems to be motionless. Oh, if we
Speaker 1: were to just keep on reading and at the other
Speaker 1: at the other end of the scale, there are gross
Speaker 1: forms of matter whose vibrations are so low as to
Speaker 1: seem at rest. Between these poles, there are millions upon
Speaker 1: millions of varying degrees of vibration. From corpuscle and electron,
Speaker 1: atom and molecule to worlds and universes, everything is in
Speaker 1: a vibratory motion. This is also true on the planes
Speaker 1: of energy and force, which are but varying degrees of vibration,
Speaker 1: and also on the mental planes, whose states depend upon
Speaker 1: vibrations and even on the spiritual planes, and understanding of
Speaker 1: this principle with the appropriate formulas, enable hermetic students to
Speaker 1: control their own mental vibrations as well as those of others.
Speaker 1: The masters also apply this principle to the conquering of
Speaker 1: natural phenomena in various ways. End quotes. He who understands
Speaker 1: the principle of vibration has grasped the scepter of power,
Speaker 1: says one of the old writers. Oh shit, let me
Speaker 1: get that sceptor. That sceptor. I always think of Loki
Speaker 1: whenever I think of a sceptor. Next, we have the
Speaker 1: fourth principle, which is the principle of polarity. So everything
Speaker 1: is dual, Everything has pulls, everything has its pair of opposites.
Speaker 1: Like and unlike are the same. Opposites are identical in nature,
Speaker 1: but different in degree. Extremes meet. All truths are but
Speaker 1: half truths. All paradoxes may be reconciled.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I believe it was the second time that we went
Speaker 3: over these. This one was just major as far as
Speaker 3: like one of those shifts in my understanding of just
Speaker 3: reality itself, you know, not to say I have it
Speaker 3: figured out, but just polarity in general is so it's
Speaker 3: so awesome when you start to just look at that,
Speaker 3: try to understand that, and then try to apply that
Speaker 3: on everything that you see around you. It is it
Speaker 3: just makes everything so much more clear. Dude, you know
Speaker 3: that the opposites being equal, but just on different you know,
Speaker 3: vibrations almost you know themselves. I think we went into
Speaker 3: it as far as they're always being the the opposite,
Speaker 3: like the good guy and the bad guy. And then
Speaker 3: there's different board games you can apply that too, and
Speaker 3: within that board game there's gonna be this guy and
Speaker 3: or the good guy and this antithesis of that, you know,
Speaker 3: and there's always that light and dark and that, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like that one was huge when we covered that. Oh dude,
Speaker 1: so much to do with that. Yes, yes, that was
Speaker 1: a fun one, dude. But yeah, so let's dive in
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper as far as polarity goes, and
Speaker 1: maybe we'll even broaden our own understanding of what this
Speaker 1: means to a little bit. This principle embodies the truth
Speaker 1: that everything is dual. Everything has two poles, Everything has
Speaker 1: its pair of opposites, all of which were old hermetic axioms.
Speaker 1: It explains the old paradoxes that have perplexed so many,
Speaker 1: which have been stated as follows. Thesis and antithesis are
Speaker 1: identical in nature but different in degree. Opposites are the same,
Speaker 1: differing only in degree. The pairs of opposites may be
Speaker 1: reconciled extremes. Meat, Everything is and isn't at the same time.
Speaker 3: Fly, We're back to not knowing anything. Oh, because there
Speaker 3: we knew something and then we should we should have
Speaker 3: known better.
Speaker 1: It's there. It's that there is everything to know and
Speaker 1: nothing to know happening at the same exact time. Yep,
Speaker 1: my god, everything is and isn't. What kind of a
Speaker 1: fucking sentence is that?
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like something optimistic would have said,
Speaker 3: you know, if I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: It does actually kind of ris and wrong, you know, simultaneously.
Speaker 1: All truths are but half truths. Every truth is half false.
Speaker 3: Of course it is, you know, because why wouldn't it be.
Speaker 1: There are two sides to everything, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. It explains that that in everything there are
Speaker 1: two poles or opposite aspects, and that opposites are really
Speaker 1: only the two extremes of the same thing, with many
Speaker 1: varying degrees between them. To illustrate hot and cold, although
Speaker 1: opposites are really the same thing, the differences consisting merely
Speaker 1: of degrees of the same thing. Look at your thermometer
Speaker 1: and see if you can discover where heat terminates and
Speaker 1: cold begins. There is no such thing as absolute heat
Speaker 1: or absolute cold. The two terms heat and cold simply
Speaker 1: indicate varying degrees of the same thing, And that same
Speaker 1: thing which manifests as heat and cold, is merely a
Speaker 1: form of variety, a rate of vibration. So heat and
Speaker 1: cold are simply the two poles of that which we
Speaker 1: call heat, and the phenomena attendant thereupon are manifestations of
Speaker 1: the principle of polarity. The same principle manifests in the
Speaker 1: case of light and darkness, which are the same thing,
Speaker 1: the difference consisting of varying degrees between the two poles
Speaker 1: of the phenomena. Where does darkness leave off and light begin?
Speaker 1: What is the difference between large and small, between hard
Speaker 1: and soft, between black and white, between sharp and dull,
Speaker 1: between noise and quiet, between high and low, between positive
Speaker 1: and negative. The principle of polarity explains these paradoxes, and
Speaker 1: no other principle can supersede it. The same principle operates
Speaker 1: on the mental plane. There it is. Let us take
Speaker 1: a radical and extreme example, that of love and hate,
Speaker 1: two mental states apparently totally different. And yet there are
Speaker 1: degrees of hate and degrees of love, and a middle
Speaker 1: point in which we use the terms like or dislike,
Speaker 1: which shade which shade into each other so gradually that
Speaker 1: sometimes we are at a loss to know whether we
Speaker 1: like or dislike or neither. All are and all are
Speaker 1: simply degrees of the same thing, as you will see
Speaker 1: if you will, but think for a moment, and more
Speaker 1: than more than this, and also considered of more importance
Speaker 1: by the hermetics, it is possible to change the vibrations
Speaker 1: of hate to the vibrations of love in one's own
Speaker 1: mind and in the minds of others. Many of you
Speaker 1: who read these lines have had personal experiences of the involuntary,
Speaker 1: rapid transition from love to hate and the reverse in
Speaker 1: your own case and that of others, And you will
Speaker 1: there therefore realize the possibility of this being accomplished by
Speaker 1: the use of the will, by means of the hermetic formulas.
Speaker 1: Good and evil are but poles are but the poles
Speaker 1: of the same thing, And the hermeticist understands the art
Speaker 1: of transmuting evil into good by means of an application
Speaker 1: of the principle of polarity. In short, the art of
Speaker 1: polarization becomes a phase of mental alchemy known and practiced
Speaker 1: by the ancient and modern hermetic masters. An understanding of
Speaker 1: the principle will enable one to change his own polarity,
Speaker 1: as well as that of others, if he will devote
Speaker 1: the time and study necessary to master the art.
Speaker 3: Interesting, deep, interesting. And you know, we do love our extremes,
Speaker 3: you know. I feel like, when it comes to certain things,
Speaker 3: you either love this thing or you hate this thing.
Speaker 3: It's like sometimes I feel like you can just kind
Speaker 3: of be in the middle, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like you don't even necessarily have to have a strong
Speaker 3: opinion on certain things. You can kind of just let
Speaker 3: it be what it is, you know, and not necessarily
Speaker 3: be so extreme one side of the pole.
Speaker 1: Or the other. Oh yeah, dude, Well and that's the idea,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, and shift it a little bit here,
Speaker 1: if you will, from black and white being the extremes
Speaker 1: because I don't think that it's it's always so black
Speaker 1: and white. Especially nowadays, it tends to come in shades
Speaker 1: of red and blue. And I don't even mean just politics.
Speaker 1: Look at everything, everything that has its conferences. I think
Speaker 1: about the the AFC and the NFC. In the NFL,
Speaker 1: that's team red versus team blue. Right, think about and
Speaker 1: I'm a wrestling dork, raw versus SmackDown. One's red, one's blue.
Speaker 1: Think about coke and PEPSI red and blue. It's literally
Speaker 1: everywhere this red versus blue. Think about Walmart, blue, target
Speaker 1: red right, everywhere it is all bloods and crips. Dude,
Speaker 1: you know I'm from the streets. Bloods and crips. They
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they teach this anymore, but
Speaker 1: I remember a time whenever they used to say that
Speaker 1: your blood inside of you was blue until it becomes
Speaker 1: exposed to air, which turns it red. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if that's true. I don't know either, but I
Speaker 1: remember learning it.
Speaker 3: I have heard that too, because your blood is oxygenated
Speaker 3: like you're the way that your heart flows from your
Speaker 3: heart into your lungs in it becomes oxygenated like the
Speaker 3: whole thing with your blood not having oxygen is But
Speaker 3: I actually heard that same thing when I was younger, like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's blue until it comes out and then it turns red.
Speaker 3: Like for some reason, somebody was spreading that around, But
Speaker 3: I don't know. It could be true, but I want
Speaker 3: to say it's not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that could have That could just be
Speaker 1: another one of those things that everybody, for some reason,
Speaker 1: everybody learned and we don't remember where Almost the same
Speaker 1: thing is like Marilyn Manson removing two of his ribs
Speaker 1: to be able to blow himself. Right, That's that's another one.
Speaker 1: I heard the same one. How does everybody remember learning that?
Speaker 1: But yet I'm learning this, you know, Like, why is
Speaker 1: is that a thing? Yeah? Yet none of us remember
Speaker 1: who told us? Right? You know that was by design, dude.
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody just like fucked fucked off over its cern.
Speaker 1: It was just like, let's just put this in there, dude.
Speaker 1: It'll be one of those like little known facts, which
Speaker 1: isn't isn't a fact at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same guy that showed everybody how to
Speaker 3: draw that dollar sign s thing, you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, same thing. You know, I never
Speaker 1: learned how to draw that. Oh really, yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: everybody always learning, you know, everybody. You know, you'd get
Speaker 1: people that would jot down, you know, little scribbles and
Speaker 1: stuff in class. Yeah, and it always looked cool, but
Speaker 1: I never learned it. Right.
Speaker 3: It's like those people that could fold like things out
Speaker 3: of paper, you know, like little notes and they fold
Speaker 3: it a certain way, or to do the little game
Speaker 3: where you got to do one, two, three, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that little wrigami and all whatnot. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So nextly we have the principle of rhythm. This is
Speaker 1: the fifth principle. So this principle embodies the truth that
Speaker 1: in everything there is man manifested, a measured motion to
Speaker 1: and fro, a flow, and inflow a swing backward and forward,
Speaker 1: a pendulum's a pendulum like movement, a tide like ebb
Speaker 1: and flow between the two poles, which exists in accordance
Speaker 1: with the principle of polarity described a moment ago. There
Speaker 1: is always an action and a reaction, an advance and
Speaker 1: a retreat, a risking and a sinking. This is the
Speaker 1: This is in the affairs of the universe, suns, worlds, men, animals, mindy, energy,
Speaker 1: and matter. This law is manifest in the creation and
Speaker 1: destruction of worlds, so that we're talking about rhythm here, right.
Speaker 1: It's manifest in the destruction of worlds, in the creation
Speaker 1: and destruction of worlds, in the rise and fall of nations,
Speaker 1: in the life of all things, and finally in the
Speaker 1: mental state of man. It's talking about man as in human,
Speaker 1: so I don't want people to think that it's like
Speaker 1: a boy girl thing in the and finally in the
Speaker 1: mental in the mental states of man. And it is
Speaker 1: with the with this ladder that the that the Hermeticis
Speaker 1: find the understanding of the principle most important. The Hermeticists
Speaker 1: have grasped this principle, finding it its universal application, and
Speaker 1: have also discovered certain means to overcome its effects in themselves.
Speaker 1: By the use of the appropriate formulas and methods, they
Speaker 1: apply the mental law of neutralization. They cannot annul the
Speaker 1: principle or cause it to cease its operation, but they
Speaker 1: have learned how to escape its effects upon themselves to
Speaker 1: a certain degree depending upon the mastery of the principle.
Speaker 1: They have learned how to use it instead of being
Speaker 1: used by it, learn how to use the rhythm instead
Speaker 1: of getting used by the rhythm right In this and
Speaker 1: similar methods consists the art of the hermeticis the master
Speaker 1: of hermetics polarizes himself at the point of which he
Speaker 1: desires to rest, and then neutralizes the rhythmic swing of
Speaker 1: the pendulum which would tend to carry him to the
Speaker 1: other pole. Wow. All individuals who have attained any agree
Speaker 1: of self mastery to do this to a certain degree,
Speaker 1: more or less unconsciously. But the master does this consciously
Speaker 1: and by the use of his will, and attains a
Speaker 1: degree of poise and mental firmness almost impossible of belief
Speaker 1: on the part of the masses who are swung backward
Speaker 1: and forward like a pendulum. So you can just go
Speaker 1: with the flow, and you can kind of hang on
Speaker 1: for dear life to the pendulum as it goes from
Speaker 1: one extreme to the other. Or you can just stay
Speaker 1: put and understand that that pendulum is going to swing
Speaker 1: right back and it might not be in your favor
Speaker 1: rate now, but you might be able to catch it
Speaker 1: on the back end and swing with it to the
Speaker 1: to the more extreme side if that is your preference.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think it would just be a matter
Speaker 3: like for me as far as figuring out like what
Speaker 3: in this case is the angelum, you know, like, or
Speaker 3: is it just to have the understanding that things are
Speaker 3: going to ebb and flow, you know, the understanding that
Speaker 3: like things are going good. But I don't I don't
Speaker 3: want to assume that because things are going good that
Speaker 3: inevitably it's gonna stop going good or start to go bad.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I think it's just it's more along the lines of
Speaker 3: understanding that there are certain times to really get in
Speaker 3: there and really hit it hard, and then other.
Speaker 1: Times to rest.
Speaker 3: You know, while that maulum is swinging back, it's like,
Speaker 3: don't be making certain moves that are going to be
Speaker 3: very impactful towards your business or towards whatever it is
Speaker 3: you're trying to do. You know, Like, is it also
Speaker 3: like looking at the moon and when the moon is
Speaker 3: filling up, when it's when it's a waxing, right, or
Speaker 3: when yeah, waxing is getting bigger, it's getting bigger, So
Speaker 3: like maybe that's the time you start really putting putting
Speaker 3: more effort, you start you know what I mean, And
Speaker 3: then when it goes away, then it's like, okay, now
Speaker 3: rest a little bit, you know, right, that would be
Speaker 3: a good idea of the pendulum, right there is that
Speaker 3: you know when whenever it is waxing, all right, you
Speaker 3: know it's building, it's building, it's building, and you can
Speaker 3: almost go with with the with the tides of the
Speaker 3: moon at that point, right, like kind of like what
Speaker 3: you were talking about, but on the back end, whenever
Speaker 3: you know it's starting to wane, well, instead of focusing
Speaker 3: on the thing that you were trying to build up,
Speaker 3: now you focus on the thing that you want to
Speaker 3: be taken away, and you put the thing that you're
Speaker 3: trying to build up almost on the back burner as
Speaker 3: you're taking away what you're trying to take away and
Speaker 3: using the pendulum to your advantage, right, and during that
Speaker 3: time also kind of trying to keep what you have strong,
Speaker 3: you know, during that time of the of the waning moon, right,
Speaker 3: it's starting to go away, So like, let me hold
Speaker 3: on really tight to the things that I know are
Speaker 3: very important and valuable to what I'm trying to build,
Speaker 3: you know, at the same time getting rid of consciously
Speaker 3: getting rid of the things that don't work.
Speaker 1: You know, look at us sounding like mystics and shit.
Speaker 3: I mean it's starting to happen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I feel it. It's a process. It's all a process,
Speaker 1: and it will always be a process. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: all individuals who have attained any degree of self mastery
Speaker 1: do this to a certain degree, more or less unconsciously. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'd already read that this principle and that of polarity
Speaker 1: have been closely studied by the Hermeticis, and the methods
Speaker 1: of counteracting, neutralizing, and using them form an important part
Speaker 1: of the Hermetic mental alchemy. Perfect.
Speaker 3: So the phase of the moon last Saturday, I think
Speaker 3: it was oh shit, yeah, because remember what were we saying, like, oh,
Speaker 3: I think it's a new moon? Remember, because it wasn't out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was yeah wow, Yeah, we literally
Speaker 1: got tossed into the void. It's starting to make sense now, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: And that's the idea is that dude? And this is
Speaker 1: what's holy shit, I just thought of something crazy. So
Speaker 1: whenever the hermeticis, and I believe I could be interpreting
Speaker 1: this the right way, but I think what's going on
Speaker 1: is is that the Hermeticis doesn't discern the outside world
Speaker 1: and his inside world. It looks at them as both
Speaker 1: representations of essentially the same thing. Right, So everything that's
Speaker 1: happening in your outside world is affecting your inside world,
Speaker 1: and vice versa. So if something is going on in
Speaker 1: the outside world that you're like, oh man, the ependulum
Speaker 1: is swinging to a crazy you know, extent that I'm
Speaker 1: not really four, then like you want to transmute that
Speaker 1: inwardly and hope that it almost manifests outwardly, you know, dude.
Speaker 3: And you know another thing I just thought of now
Speaker 3: that you brought that up, as far as like the
Speaker 3: energy of your environment, right, it had been raining for
Speaker 3: two days before we even had that experience, and then
Speaker 3: days after, and so it was like that our environment
Speaker 3: was the energy of emotions and rain and water coming,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And so then and then it hailed of our outside
Speaker 3: world and our inside world all simultaneously, you.
Speaker 1: Know, dude. And and then how about it hails a
Speaker 1: couple of days after. Yeah, talking about chaos, which hailing
Speaker 1: in Phoenix is crazy. Uh. That was the worst I've
Speaker 1: seen since I've lived here. It hailed so damn much
Speaker 1: that it looked like snow on the ground. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a mattress floating by. I was driving
Speaker 3: home from the store and there was a mattress that
Speaker 3: floated by me. I was in traffic and the mattress
Speaker 3: was moving faster.
Speaker 1: Than I was.
Speaker 3: You know, almost as if I thought of polar bear
Speaker 3: was gonna like Yeah, I mean it was crazy with
Speaker 3: a fucking Coca cola or something, but it was almost
Speaker 3: it was almost as if the outside world was matching
Speaker 3: our inside world exactly, you know.
Speaker 1: And the same. Yeah. Well, it's all it's all rhythm,
Speaker 1: it's all correspondence, it's all polarity, you.
Speaker 3: Know, mentalism, it all fucking goes. This isn't crazy, No,
Speaker 3: it makes sense. It's not de lulu.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, we can sit here and just riff on certain
Speaker 3: things because it resonates, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 3: not like something you have to really dig deep to
Speaker 3: try to put something together on the spot.
Speaker 1: This is just this is just what it is, idiot,
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah. Well, and that brings us to
Speaker 1: the sixth principle, which is the principle of cause and effect.
Speaker 1: So every cause has its effect, every effect has its cause.
Speaker 1: Everything happens according to law. Chance is but a name
Speaker 1: for law not recognized. WHOA. There are many planes of causation,
Speaker 1: but nothing escapes the law. Shit, Yeah, all right. So
Speaker 1: this principle embodies the fact that there is a cause
Speaker 1: for every effect, and effect from every cause. It explains
Speaker 1: that everything happens according to law, that nothing ever, merely happens,
Speaker 1: that there is no such thing as chance. While that
Speaker 1: while there are various planes of cause and effect, the
Speaker 1: higher dominating, the higher planes dominating the lower planes, still
Speaker 1: nothing ever, entirely escapes the law. The hermeticists understand the
Speaker 1: art of the understand the art and methods of rising
Speaker 1: above the ordinary plane of cause and effect to a
Speaker 1: certain degree, and by mentally rising to a higher plane,
Speaker 1: they become causers instead of effects. Let's go, dude. The
Speaker 1: masses of people are carried along obedient to environment. The
Speaker 1: wills and desires of others stronger than themselves, heredity, suggestion,
Speaker 1: and other outward causes move other outward causes, moving them
Speaker 1: about like pawns on the chessboard of life. But the
Speaker 1: masters rising to the plane above dominate their moods, dominate
Speaker 1: their characters, their qualities, and their powers, as well as
Speaker 1: the environments surround fund them, and become movers instead of pawns.
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go, dude.
Speaker 3: The thought and the idea or the understanding really of
Speaker 3: the whole cause and effect thing. It gets me to
Speaker 3: think as far as whenever you hear somebody say like
Speaker 3: you were always exactly where you were supposed to be,
Speaker 3: and it's not even to say that, like some outside
Speaker 3: force puts you there. And sure, I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 3: there are children that are you know, maybe they got
Speaker 3: shitty parents and they're dealing with what I mean that
Speaker 3: they don't deserve that, and it's it's not their fault,
Speaker 3: you know. But people that are, you know, especially in
Speaker 3: your thirties, you know what I'm saying, Like, if you
Speaker 3: are somewhere that you don't like, you know, and you're
Speaker 3: you're very unhappy, and you continue to do the same
Speaker 3: thing over and over, it's like according to the law
Speaker 3: that you spoke of, It's like, this is exactly where
Speaker 3: you're supposed to be, just according to everything that you've done,
Speaker 3: everything you've experienced, and sure some things you didn't it
Speaker 3: wasn't your fault, you know what I mean? But how
Speaker 3: you were able to transmute that and make it into
Speaker 3: something better and then and go for some crazy goal
Speaker 3: that everyone says you're crazy for even trying, you know,
Speaker 3: what I mean like, if you don't do those things,
Speaker 3: then of course you are exactly where you're gonna be,
Speaker 3: where you're supposed to be, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like there's no there's no accidents.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, this is literally like fuck flipping the board
Speaker 1: or changing sides or you know, maybe you're a pawn
Speaker 1: one day and then you advance across the board and
Speaker 1: you become the rook or the queen or whatever. Right, like,
Speaker 1: forget all that You're no longer a piece on the board.
Speaker 1: You are the hand that's moving it. And that's what
Speaker 1: it's talking about as far as being a cause and
Speaker 1: not an effect, so which I love the way that
Speaker 1: they just laid that out, that is beautiful. To where
Speaker 1: you dominate your mood, your mood, I'm above that, you
Speaker 1: dominate your character. Who Jonathan? Who Sean? Who? I am
Speaker 1: more than Jonathan? I am more than Sean. You are
Speaker 1: you are the thing that is aware. That is the
Speaker 1: idea behind that, and you know your qualities and your
Speaker 1: powers and your environments surrounding you. Instead of being the pawn,
Speaker 1: you are now above that. You are the mover. You
Speaker 1: are the cause. Instead of just letting your environment and
Speaker 1: letting all these things happen to you, You are the
Speaker 1: cause of all things in this instance, absolutely, dude.
Speaker 3: Makes you think, you know what I mean, Like for
Speaker 3: those people that really set themselves up for the next day,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, it's like trying to plan
Speaker 3: for the next day rather than waking up you don't
Speaker 3: know where your phone is. All of a sudden, the
Speaker 3: days got you, you know what I mean, and you're
Speaker 3: really just subject to oh now I'm late to work.
Speaker 3: And this is speaking out of experience. This happened to
Speaker 3: me today. I woke up, can't find my phone, and
Speaker 3: then I was late to work, And in that moment,
Speaker 3: I started to get really frustrated. Like it was, it
Speaker 3: was already I was in reactive mode, you know, And
Speaker 3: it was like then I was like, okay, let me
Speaker 3: just take myself out of this real quick.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fine. I'm gonna get to work.
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to deal with that, you know, Like
Speaker 3: it is, I can't just be there on time today,
Speaker 3: It's just not gonna happen. And so instead of getting
Speaker 3: myself down and getting and just kind of continuing to
Speaker 3: be frustrated, I just said, Okay, I'm gonna leave my phone.
Speaker 3: I'll find it later, I'll get to work late.
Speaker 1: It's fine. And then everything was fine, you.
Speaker 3: Know, but I but it was it was so easy
Speaker 3: to start to get a little frustrated just because I
Speaker 3: couldn't find my phone, which is like another just just
Speaker 3: an attachment, if you want to be honest, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: If you really think about it, you know, look at
Speaker 1: every aspect of yourself, of you in this incarnation, you,
Speaker 1: of the physical body, every aspect of it. It's almost
Speaker 1: like people forget that they are the movers of the
Speaker 1: pieces on their own board in the in the game
Speaker 1: of chess of life, right, and they're almost trying to
Speaker 1: appease all of the pieces that they think are them.
Speaker 1: So maybe you have you know, a night that resent,
Speaker 1: that that that stands for I don't know, whatever addiction
Speaker 1: that you have, or maybe you have a pawn that
Speaker 1: stands for you know whatever. If you just think about it,
Speaker 1: each and every single piece on a chessboard representing something
Speaker 1: that isn't you, but it's temporarily you in this human existence, right,
Speaker 1: instead of trying to appease all of those pieces on
Speaker 1: the board, make them all obey you. Right exactly. That's
Speaker 1: where you get to that's where you get to be
Speaker 1: a hermetic master.
Speaker 3: At that moment, well, you rise above any given situation.
Speaker 3: You know, God, I like this shit, Like that time
Speaker 3: you had in the mall where some crazy shit was
Speaker 3: going down and you were just like, all right, let
Speaker 3: me just stay calm, because it's not going to help
Speaker 3: if I freak out.
Speaker 1: Which is easier said than done, of course, of course.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just about coming to that understanding that,
Speaker 1: like you, you are the master of your own emotions
Speaker 1: and beyond that. But that's just one piece of it.
Speaker 1: But to continue, it says they help to play the
Speaker 1: game of life talking about the pawns, instead of being
Speaker 1: played and moved about by other people's wills and and
Speaker 1: your environment. They use the principle instead of being its tools.
Speaker 1: The masters obey the causation of the higher planes, but
Speaker 1: they help to rule on their own plane. In this statement,
Speaker 1: there is a condensed Uh, there is condensed a wealth
Speaker 1: of hermetic knowledge. Let him read? Who can ah, let's go, dude,
Speaker 1: a man. And that's not talking about reading words on
Speaker 1: a page. It's just being able to let him read
Speaker 1: is let him become aware if you if you have
Speaker 1: the ability to become aware, you should do it. Nextly,
Speaker 1: we have the seventh principle, which is the principle of
Speaker 1: jenda gender. I was trying to say fancy, but it
Speaker 1: didn't come out anyway. So gender is in every Everything
Speaker 1: has its masculine and feminine principles. Gender, so it manifests
Speaker 1: on all planes. So this principle embodies the truth that
Speaker 1: there is gender manifested in everything, the masculine and feminine
Speaker 1: principles ever at work. This is true not only on
Speaker 1: the physical plane, but of the mental and even the
Speaker 1: spiritual planes. On the physical plane, the principle manifests as sex. Interesting.
Speaker 1: On the higher plane, it manifests it takes higher forms.
Speaker 1: But the principle is ever the same. No creation, physical, mental,
Speaker 1: or spiritual is possible without this principle, and understanding of
Speaker 1: its law will throw light on many of subjects that
Speaker 1: has perplexed the minds of men. The principle of gender
Speaker 1: works ever in the direction of generation, regeneration, and creation.
Speaker 1: Everything in every person contains two elements or two principles,
Speaker 1: or this great principle within it him or her. Every male,
Speaker 1: every male thing has the female element. Also every female
Speaker 1: contains also the male principle. If you would, if you
Speaker 1: would understand the philosophy of mental and spiritual creation, generation
Speaker 1: and regeneration, you must understand and study this hermetic principle.
Speaker 1: It contains the solution of many mysteries of life. We
Speaker 1: caution you that this principle has no reference to the
Speaker 1: many base, pernicious and degrading, lustful theories, teachings, and practices
Speaker 1: which are taught under fanciful titles, and which are a
Speaker 1: prostitution of the great natural principle, or yeah, the great
Speaker 1: natural principle of gender. Such base revivals, such base revivals
Speaker 1: of the ancient infamous forms of fallicism, tend to ruin mind, body,
Speaker 1: and soul. And the Hermetic philosophy has ever sounded the
Speaker 1: warning note against these degraded teachings which tend towards lust
Speaker 1: and pervasion of Nature's principles. If you seek, If you
Speaker 1: seek such teachings, you must go elsewhere for them. Hermeticism
Speaker 1: contains nothing for you along these lines. To the pure,
Speaker 1: all things are pure, to the base, all things are based.
Speaker 1: So basically, it's saying because it brought up the idea
Speaker 1: of what was it the fallicism. So that is if
Speaker 1: you look at so there's a lot of like phallic
Speaker 1: statues all around the world, basically dicks. Right, So we
Speaker 1: have the Washington Monument is a phallic monument, right, and
Speaker 1: it represents basically it represents a dick. And the idea
Speaker 1: is is that if you look at it, it sounds
Speaker 1: kind of kind of crazy and a little bit messed up.
Speaker 1: But essentially look at every like just the Washington Monument
Speaker 1: for an example, because that's the one that's coming to mind.
Speaker 1: Imagine a giant dick coming out of the ground. That's
Speaker 1: what it kind of presents. And what it stands for
Speaker 1: is that it is creating. It is the creator that
Speaker 1: without the dick, there cannot be creation. What this is
Speaker 1: saying is that that's stupid and don't bring that bullshit here,
Speaker 1: like forget all of that, because that's that's you know,
Speaker 1: perverted people are taking principles completely out of context. And
Speaker 1: so it's basically calling out a lot of the Freemasons.
Speaker 1: If we're being real, here are a lot of the
Speaker 1: corrupt Freemasons, a lot of the corrupt occultists. This is
Speaker 1: this is like black magic. Whenever you're starting to deal
Speaker 1: with fallacism because it is it's unnatural. Is whenever you
Speaker 1: start to go in there, and even if you really
Speaker 1: think about it, you really want to take it there
Speaker 1: the idea of the two pillars, So you want to
Speaker 1: think about so a phallus, like like the Washington Monument.
Speaker 1: Do you know that there are many different ways of
Speaker 1: looking at that, But there's also many different ways of
Speaker 1: looking at two pillars. For example, so we just read
Speaker 1: what was it the High priestess? It's between two pillars
Speaker 1: and the tarot. Right. What some will say is that
Speaker 1: the two pillars actually stand for a vagina. It is
Speaker 1: the matrix itself that whenever you go through it, you're
Speaker 1: almost envisioning being reborn. Now, if you're taking that to
Speaker 1: a sexual degree, you're doing it wrong. But if you
Speaker 1: take it and use it, imagineatilly, if that's a word,
Speaker 1: then it doesn't have to be you know, perverted and
Speaker 1: sexual and all these kinds of things. And that's this
Speaker 1: is where you get like give or heard like almost
Speaker 1: all cults out there, the cult leaders fucking all the women.
Speaker 1: This is the idea behind that, like because some people
Speaker 1: will take it and be like, well, I'm the master masculine.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, and you need you need the
Speaker 1: divine masculine to come up inside you. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: you're doing it wrong. That's not the way, so weird
Speaker 1: people out there surely is. So anyway, that's what that
Speaker 1: was alluding to. It Now, I thought, let's get a
Speaker 1: let's get a little gander at what the hermetic key
Speaker 1: looks like. Okay, And for anybody that's out there wondering
Speaker 1: the hermetic key and the onc, I get why people
Speaker 1: would confuse the two. It's not the same exact thing.
Speaker 1: So the hermetic key symbol, you've seen it before, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show it to you. I'm gonna show all
Speaker 1: of you here. This is the hermetic key symbol. So
Speaker 1: it's the circle inside a square inside a triangle inside
Speaker 1: a circle. Yep. So, the term hermetic key symbol can
Speaker 1: refer to several different concepts, but most most commonly relates
Speaker 1: to an alchemical key that unlocks mystery and a lantern
Speaker 1: representing human knowledge. Oh, let's go, dude. It is also
Speaker 1: associated with a larger alchemical hand symbol featuring the key, lantern,
Speaker 1: sun star, and crown, which symbolized various stages of the
Speaker 1: alchemical work and spiritual mastery. So there's that, all right,
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. I think that's that. That's that symbol.
Speaker 1: Is you see it a lot in like Harry Potter. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: it's that symbol. So I thought that that was pretty neat.
Speaker 1: So we have one more thing that I did want
Speaker 1: to go over here today. This one's running a little
Speaker 1: bit longer than I thought it would. I'm actually happy
Speaker 1: about that. I like it. It got deep, man, dude,
Speaker 1: it got super deep, and it's only going to get deeper.
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit scared, but let's go, you know,
Speaker 1: not too deep. We're not going to lose ourselves here.
Speaker 1: We're wearing We're wearing floaties in this one. So all right.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what is the master key? Remember it brought it up
Speaker 1: in the in in the the first principle in men
Speaker 1: talking about the master key that if you can hold that,
Speaker 1: then you got it. You got it figured out right.
Speaker 1: So within hermetic philosophy, there is a very clear idea
Speaker 1: of a master key that unlocks all seven principles. That
Speaker 1: the master key is that the mind is the source
Speaker 1: of all creation, that is the key. Yeah. So the
Speaker 1: master key is literally the first principle yep, and everything
Speaker 1: else falls below it. M hm.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that that's what it is, you know,
Speaker 3: because I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it resonates yeah or in uh in today's terms,
Speaker 1: Instead of saying it resonates, we just like to say
Speaker 1: it fucks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it fucks or hard.
Speaker 1: So everything else, every one of the seven principles, is
Speaker 1: simply an extension or application of this one meta truth.
Speaker 1: I love that they wrote that it's a meta truth.
Speaker 1: So here we go. So the principle of mentalism that
Speaker 1: the all is mind equals the master key. So this
Speaker 1: is the first principle because it is the foundation, and
Speaker 1: it says that everything you experience is a projection, emanation,
Speaker 1: or expression of consciousness. So what it means is is
Speaker 1: that reality isn't something that you are in. Reality is
Speaker 1: something that you are dreaming. So if you change the dreamer,
Speaker 1: you change the dream. If you change the mind, you
Speaker 1: change the universe. This is why the principle of mentalism
Speaker 1: precedes and governs the other principles. It is the master
Speaker 1: key because every other principle depends on it. Vibration exists
Speaker 1: because the mind vibrates. Correspondence exist because the mind reflects
Speaker 1: itself and patterns. Polarity exists because the mind divides unity
Speaker 1: into opposites. Rhythm exists because mind breathes in cycles. Huh.
Speaker 1: Cause and effect exists because the mind and chooses a direction.
Speaker 1: And gender exists because the mind splits itself into creative
Speaker 1: dual forces.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so everything is rooted in the mind as the
Speaker 1: architect of reality. The architect is the mind, the grand
Speaker 1: architect that the Freemasons are talking about, you know, God, source, creation,
Speaker 1: the dream, the matrix, the simulation, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it. The fucking governor is the mind that is
Speaker 1: the universe, that is everything that is within and outside
Speaker 1: of the universe. Wow. See that right there, just brings
Speaker 1: it home. Man, it does. That helps so much.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, oh, you're scared, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like what you're experiencing is you know, a
Speaker 3: little overwhelming.
Speaker 1: Well it's you. So you did that. You did that.
Speaker 1: You don't like it? Stop doing it? Right, Stop doing that?
Speaker 1: Just and of course it's easier said than done. We
Speaker 1: don't mean to gas in anybody here, but that's that's
Speaker 1: not the idea behind it. It's it's about understanding that,
Speaker 1: what dude, I mean. First, of course, you have to
Speaker 1: be able to govern yourself. But once you got that,
Speaker 1: and you're not always going to have it, it's not
Speaker 1: always going to be like one hundred percent I always
Speaker 1: govern myself. Of course, if you're on a diet, you're
Speaker 1: always going to droll at the sight of a recess, right.
Speaker 1: But the idea is that you can tame that. And
Speaker 1: if you can tame that, that part of you that
Speaker 1: that is below you because the body is below the mind, right,
Speaker 1: like the heaven which is your mind, is below that
Speaker 1: of the earth, which is your body. Yeah, so fun, dude,
Speaker 1: love it. So the master key is self control over
Speaker 1: your inner states. So the Hermitic teacher said, he who
Speaker 1: controls his mind controls his world. So this means control
Speaker 1: your thoughts, and you control your manifestation, control your emotions,
Speaker 1: and you control your frequency, control your interpolarity, and you
Speaker 1: control your outer conditions. Your inner state is the seed,
Speaker 1: your outer life is the bloom.
Speaker 3: Wow wow.
Speaker 1: So the master key is simply realizing that you are
Speaker 1: the sower. You reap what you sew. They say, that
Speaker 1: is what they say, dude, that is what they say.
Speaker 1: So the master key is personal alchemy. This is all transmutation, right,
Speaker 1: So the hermeticis isn't trying to change the outside world.
Speaker 1: First they change themselves and then reality bends. Transmutation is
Speaker 1: the secret word. It means turn fear into power, turn
Speaker 1: doubt into knowing, turn chaos and order, turn lower nature
Speaker 1: into higher nature. This is literally the magic behind all magic.
Speaker 1: Fucking a it is. So. Another way to describe the
Speaker 1: master key is that in older esoteric lodges, the master
Speaker 1: key was defined as the ability to harmonize your vibration
Speaker 1: with any desired reality. So, since everything is vibration, he
Speaker 1: who can shift his vibration can shift his universe. That
Speaker 1: is the true hidden power. The simplest definition definition ever given.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna break it all the way down, dumb
Speaker 1: it down for even people like us, for me, for me.
Speaker 1: So if you strip away all philosophy, all occultism, all metaphysics,
Speaker 1: here's the core master key. You are the one creating
Speaker 1: your reality, not God, not fate, not chance. You once
Speaker 1: you accept that fully, you unlock all seven principles automatically.
Speaker 1: Her Meticism is not about memorizing the principles or the
Speaker 1: laws or anything like that. It's about realizing that you
Speaker 1: are the law dude.
Speaker 3: That was pretty much the download I got. That was
Speaker 3: pretty much it. Remember, I was saying, like, man, this
Speaker 3: place just seems like chaotic, you know, like the universe
Speaker 3: itself is chaos that we have to harness. Like that's
Speaker 3: the harnessing, you know, Like I wasn't looking at the
Speaker 3: hermetic principles. I wasn't trying to understand that. This was
Speaker 3: just like a packet of information that I just seem
Speaker 3: to understand. And it's basically what this is kind of
Speaker 3: laying out, like, yeah, sure things can be chaotic. Things
Speaker 3: around you could be happening that are not preferable, you know,
Speaker 3: but it's up to you to make it more preferable,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Transmute situation or you know
Speaker 3: someone's treating you like shit, like maybe that person's not
Speaker 3: good for you, or whatever the case is. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like whatever situation you're in, you're in because you
Speaker 3: know everything that led up to that and the things
Speaker 3: that you have allowed up until this point. And so
Speaker 3: if you can take that chaos and harness it, you
Speaker 3: can you can turn it into something beautiful, turn it
Speaker 3: into something preferable.
Speaker 1: Dude, you are the fucking law. Like that is. It
Speaker 1: seems so easy and so simple that it almost can't
Speaker 1: be true, you know what I mean. Yeah, you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's been hiding right in front of
Speaker 1: my face literally except for on the other end, you know,
Speaker 1: behind your face this entire time. Yeah, man, I love it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm happy we were able to do this
Speaker 1: episode today. It brought me a little bit more clarity
Speaker 1: and just kind of at least me on a personal level.
Speaker 1: It brought me back to what I already knew, and
Speaker 1: that's important, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: You forgot for a little bit, which I mean, you
Speaker 3: know you had an excuse, don't get me wrong. That
Speaker 3: was a little rocky, you know. So I'm glad we
Speaker 3: did this as well. Man, that makes me even feel better.
Speaker 1: So, oh dude, humpty dumpty. Had to put the pieces
Speaker 1: back together, right, you know? So? Do you have your
Speaker 1: cards with you? I don't for some reason. Oh no,
Speaker 1: that's my bad. What are you doing with your life?
Speaker 1: I got the green screen put up. I was busy, right,
Speaker 1: Give me a break, Throw me a freaking bone here,
Speaker 1: scn can't catch a break, you know. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: look give us a minute. I'm gonna shuffle these these
Speaker 1: bad boys up and we'll see what we get. Dude,
Speaker 1: do you want me to trip you the fuck out
Speaker 1: right now? Of course? We got a card that I
Speaker 1: don't know if we've ever pulled. If we have, it's
Speaker 1: only been once or twice. Okay, we got the Lover's card.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, right, very very interesting. The symbolism behind this, dude,
Speaker 1: let's do it. So this the Lovers, which is the
Speaker 1: sixth card on the On the Fullest Journey. The lovers
Speaker 1: stand together in harmony, the balance of masculine and feminine,
Speaker 1: with nothing to hide. Every choice they make is in
Speaker 1: alignment with love. The Lover's card signifies an opportunity to
Speaker 1: connect in relationships that support your happiest, highest best self.
Speaker 1: The imagery shows a man and a woman standing naked
Speaker 1: in a garden between the Tree of Life and the
Speaker 1: Tree of Knowledge. The snake represents the temptation to indulge
Speaker 1: in earthly pleasures, while the angel encourages the couple to
Speaker 1: choose divine love over succumbing to instant gratification desire for pleasure.
Speaker 1: Is balanced by vulnerability and trust since both exist within
Speaker 1: a harmonious relationship. The spiritual aspect, and we're going to
Speaker 1: get to it, but the spiritual aspect is this card
Speaker 1: serves as a reminder to choose divine love over instant gratification,
Speaker 1: and that balancing masculine and feminine energies within yourself will
Speaker 1: attract the right relationships to you. Interesting except whenever you
Speaker 1: look at the upright key meanings, you know what this
Speaker 1: card stands for. Alignment. We were just talking about how
Speaker 1: it's like my face tattooed on my face buttwo inches
Speaker 1: to the left, dude, this, and we were looking almost
Speaker 1: to build the pieces back together, trying to get back
Speaker 1: into that alignment, right dude, Yeah, Okay, I feel good.
Speaker 1: We did the right thing. Holy shit. So the numerology
Speaker 1: is six, which is a harmony, reciprocity and a mirror image. Dude, dude,
Speaker 1: what a banger of a card. Holy shit.
Speaker 3: It's interesting too because you know, like we were saying before,
Speaker 3: like I don't I wouldn't want to push you know,
Speaker 3: mushrooms or psychedelics onto anybody, you know, just knowing what
Speaker 3: I know now, like I I have a greater respect
Speaker 3: for you know what the potentiality of what that could
Speaker 3: be for somebody, you know, still fractaled. I think, like
Speaker 3: I still feel like I'm one foot in, one foot out.
Speaker 1: Like that's a real thing, dude. Yeah, so that card
Speaker 1: was perfect. I feel like we're looking for a little
Speaker 1: bit of balance. We're trying to find a little foundation.
Speaker 1: We're trying to find our footing, which literally is the
Speaker 1: idea of a spiritual anchor. And so this whole entire
Speaker 1: episode was about trying to find that anchor. And and maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, hermeticism is for some of you, maybe it's
Speaker 1: not for all of you. I wouldn't say that it's
Speaker 1: for it. I mean I think that it welcomes everybody.
Speaker 1: I don't think that it, you know, like discriminates one
Speaker 1: way or another. It's not pro male, pro pro female.
Speaker 1: It's not pro you know, race, age, color, ethnicity, it's
Speaker 1: none of that. It is all encompassing. These are universal
Speaker 1: laws written by the great Hermeticis of ancient Egypt. These
Speaker 1: are the people that fucking built the pyramids, bro, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, these are the people that
Speaker 1: found out that whenever a pointed tipped object in a
Speaker 1: perfectly positioned manner in the middle of the goddamn desert
Speaker 1: is perfectly aligned to stars in the sky that are,
Speaker 1: you know, potentially billions of light years away. That something
Speaker 1: happens whenever there is a resonant frequency if you jump
Speaker 1: inside of that King's chamber. Right, these are the people
Speaker 1: that figured it out. And that's what's beautiful about it. Now,
Speaker 1: where you can go from the other side with this
Speaker 1: is you're going to have people who choose to do magic, witchcraft,
Speaker 1: her meticism, you know, the occult, whatever you want to,
Speaker 1: whatever spiritual tool that they're using, they some of them
Speaker 1: will absolutely use it to their advantage. That is, working
Speaker 1: almost in accordance with the force of the laws of
Speaker 1: the universe or the principles of hermeticism. That's not the
Speaker 1: right way, but you can do that. And that's the
Speaker 1: beauty about all of it is that all is the force.
Speaker 1: The force isn't good, the force isn't bad. It's neutral.
Speaker 1: It's up to you to choose whether you use to
Speaker 1: use it for good or bad or any of the
Speaker 1: gray areas in between. Right, And so this is why
Speaker 1: they say that there's no such thing as as dark
Speaker 1: magic and light magic. There's just magic, and there are
Speaker 1: varying degrees of magic. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I have the the best understanding now of what
Speaker 3: Darryl Wnka says. As far as you know, there there
Speaker 3: is no inherent meaning or purpose. It's just whatever you
Speaker 3: want it to be. You know that that makes so
Speaker 3: much more sense now than it ever has. Like I've
Speaker 3: listened to him say that before and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's cool because you know, YadA YadA, But now it's like,
Speaker 3: now I get it on the deepest level. It's one
Speaker 3: thing to be experienced.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's one thing to hear it and maybe even
Speaker 1: agree with it, But to implement it is a whole
Speaker 1: other story. And that's what we're finding out because at first,
Speaker 1: whenever we first started the show, we were like, you know,
Speaker 1: like kids in a candy store, you know, looking at
Speaker 1: all the different you know, psychic powers and telekinetic powers
Speaker 1: and teleportation and quantum leaping and remote viewing and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like astro projecting, all these fucking
Speaker 1: awesome things. But then you're like, you know, you're excited
Speaker 1: because all those things exist and they have been done
Speaker 1: and they have been proven and they are real things.
Speaker 1: Not everybody can do it, but it's up to the
Speaker 1: practitioner to be able to implement it into their lives
Speaker 1: and to practice it and become it. And once you
Speaker 1: become it, oh, you start levitating off your seat without
Speaker 1: even thinking about it, because you are the levitation itself.
Speaker 1: That's it, dude.
Speaker 3: Oh man, and fear itself and happiness itself. You're you're
Speaker 3: all of those things.
Speaker 1: You know. It's just a matter of what level of
Speaker 1: that do you want to be? You know, man, how
Speaker 1: empowering them? Dude, I'll tell you what. You know, what
Speaker 1: I was thinking is that I almost feel like it
Speaker 1: was almost like a karma a little bit. And I
Speaker 1: don't mean karma as a karma is always a bit,
Speaker 1: you know what they say, it's not like that. I
Speaker 1: like that chaos of a moment that we experienced just
Speaker 1: a week and a half ago was almost like I,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm sure that I don't knock on
Speaker 1: wood wherever there is wood at you know, there's wood
Speaker 1: in this chair. I guess that's the worst thing that
Speaker 1: I've ever experienced in my life. And it's there's not
Speaker 1: a close second. Yeah, you know, and I almost look
Speaker 1: at that as oh man, I got that out the way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, the worst thing that you could ever experience
Speaker 1: in your life is now out the way. Everything else
Speaker 1: is just varying degrees of that. That was the extreme right,
Speaker 1: And I'm almost like I almost look at it almost
Speaker 1: like in a karmic way, in a sense of like, dude,
Speaker 1: I got like every bad thing that I've potentially ever
Speaker 1: done I almost like answered for in that one night.
Speaker 3: I feel like, oh man, there was so much that
Speaker 3: was given to us in that moment, you know, like
Speaker 3: you can say given to but like we received what.
Speaker 1: You know, dude, I.
Speaker 3: Can't even imagine going back to the you know. And
Speaker 3: I always thought I was very empathic, you know, like
Speaker 3: had an understanding of what other people were thinking and
Speaker 3: feeling and trying to really almost bend and try to
Speaker 3: get to a level of myself that they needed, you know,
Speaker 3: for that moment or whatever. But the level of empathy
Speaker 3: and compassion that that gave me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like the understanding of people that have lost people, you know, Like, sure,
Speaker 3: we've all lost people, and sometimes it's it's you know,
Speaker 3: you see it come in and it you know, you
Speaker 3: have time to prepare, but there are people that have
Speaker 3: lost people just out of nowhere. And this is something
Speaker 3: I've really been thinking about because in my experience, that's
Speaker 3: kind of what it was alluding to, and it was
Speaker 3: really putting me in that position of, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to understand what it's like for someone to just
Speaker 3: lose somebody out of nowhere and they're just blinds, you know,
Speaker 3: like just out of nowhere, man, and like, how do
Speaker 3: you how do you get out of that? How do
Speaker 3: you overcome that? And I imagine that's gonna be the
Speaker 3: hardest thing. And so man, just just that level of
Speaker 3: understanding is like, there's definitely levels to a hard time,
Speaker 3: you know, and that's that's the worst. That's the worst
Speaker 3: level of hard time you can ever have.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It was it was really close to you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was quite fucked man. But you know what,
Speaker 1: we've transmuted it and it's gonna continue to be transmuted.
Speaker 1: And everybody else that has ever gone through the worst
Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened to them, we would love to
Speaker 1: hear what ways you have transmuted it, or if you're
Speaker 1: having trouble transmuting that being able to look at something
Speaker 1: so negative and being able to find something that you
Speaker 1: can gain from it. That's that's fucking mastering yourself. That
Speaker 1: is inner alchemy, right, And it's more than just a
Speaker 1: silver lining. It is a silver coating. It is a
Speaker 1: silver fucking blanket. It is the thing that it's It's
Speaker 1: the invisibility shroud that you lay over it. And whenever
Speaker 1: you now, whenever you think about it, you only see
Speaker 1: it for the good aspects that it transmuted into your life.
Speaker 1: You no longer look back at it as oh my god,
Speaker 1: it was such a traumatic experience, and whenever I think
Speaker 1: about it, it just brings me into total disarray and
Speaker 1: I'm fucked and now I need SSRIs or I need
Speaker 1: to drink myself to death or whatever. Right, you don't
Speaker 1: need to close it out, you don't need to bury
Speaker 1: it beneath you. You don't need to drown it anymore,
Speaker 1: because now you're looking at it for the transmuted fucking
Speaker 1: masterpiece that it became. Yeah, dude, oh that was beautiful,
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. We have said it better myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, pulled that one right out of the fucking
Speaker 1: field of thought, maybe the field of potentiality, you know, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so all right, the one. I think we're gonna wrap
Speaker 1: it up right there. That was a fun one.
Speaker 3: Wow, it was exactly what we needed, because of course
Speaker 3: it was. We're always exactly where we're supposed to be,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, there's never a place that
Speaker 3: where we just can't reach, and we never will. It's
Speaker 3: like we're always exaust exactly where we're supposed to be.
Speaker 3: Almost like our our world is meeting us right where
Speaker 3: we are with our inner world.
Speaker 1: God, I love this. This reality is so much fun
Speaker 1: because there's so much to lose and so much to gain.
Speaker 1: There's polarity. It's just amazing. There's polarity, there's rhythm, there's correspondence,
Speaker 1: there's the universal mental mind. I mean, it just goes
Speaker 1: on and on. It is just a fun thing. And
Speaker 1: whenever you start looking at it for the code and
Speaker 1: the simulation and the matrix and the dream that it is.
Speaker 1: No longer are you used as the pawn of reality.
Speaker 1: You are now the hand that is controlling every single
Speaker 1: piece on that board. Baby, no longer living in dude.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the way, all right. The one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap this up and we're gonna get over
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Speaker 1: the Cult of Conspiracy for the past five years and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, every single episode all they
Speaker 1: talked about was opening up my third eye. But what
Speaker 1: do I do once it is metafucking mystics? Okay, that
Speaker 1: is what this show was made for. It was always
Speaker 1: going to be the evolved version of what we were
Speaker 1: working with over the Cult of Conspiracy. It's not to
Speaker 1: say that it's any better. It's not to say that
Speaker 1: it's any worse. It's just that what do you do
Speaker 1: once you have all that information in your mind and
Speaker 1: your reality has been absolutely fragmented? Come over to Metamistics.
Speaker 1: We will help Gorilla glue those bad boys back together.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep them there for good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: D you know the Elmer's glue isn't holden, we'll get
Speaker 3: the super glue.
Speaker 1: We'll do whatever it takes.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, it's for you, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: because we're still we need some of that gorilla glue.
Speaker 3: Like we're still doing that ourselves.
Speaker 1: So we feel you. We are, but also fools on
Speaker 1: this journey as well. It's a fun place to be.
Speaker 1: So yeah, we appreciate everybody. Sean, your final thoughts on
Speaker 1: this before we get over to meditating, Sir, this.
Speaker 3: Is exactly the episode we needed. I know, we were
Speaker 3: we were we were gonna have a guest, and then
Speaker 3: we had another topic that we might have that we
Speaker 3: were gonna do, and then you were like, you know,
Speaker 3: I think this is probably where we're gonna go. And
Speaker 3: it absolutely was the episode we needed. And uh I
Speaker 3: thank you man, that was perfectly planned.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you for being here with me. Sean, oh
Speaker 1: and all of the one that's out there. We love
Speaker 1: you very much. But for now we're gonna get over
Speaker 1: the meditation. But look, if the master Key of Hermetics
Speaker 1: came here and it taught you anything, it's that you
Speaker 1: don't know what you don't know. But I'll just get weird,
Speaker 1: stay weird. Oh man, that one will make you think
Speaker 1: a little bit, oh you muted, Yeah, I sure did.
Speaker 3: Man, the way the meditation started, I just kind of
Speaker 3: meditated on the Ten of Cups, which is like my
Speaker 3: favorite card, you know, just the the family standing underneath
Speaker 3: the rainbow and the cups are kind of spread out
Speaker 3: and they just seem happy and everything. It is very harmonious,
Speaker 3: you know. And yeah, I was just sitting there with
Speaker 3: that for a little bit made me a little emotional,
Speaker 3: you know, just with everything that I've come to understand
Speaker 3: just as of late, Like not that I didn't already
Speaker 3: appreciate that or or strive for that and understand that,
Speaker 3: but it's more, it's just like more so, just more
Speaker 3: than I even thought possible, you know, just the the
Speaker 3: level of compassion and understanding of just how the things
Speaker 3: that are important as opposed to the things that I
Speaker 3: thought were you know, that was very clear. And I
Speaker 3: think we all have those things, you know that we
Speaker 3: think are you know, important or or need to I'm
Speaker 3: an attention and then you realize like does it really
Speaker 3: you know, like these things are the things I should
Speaker 3: be putting all of my attention on, and everything else
Speaker 3: kind of just gets the scraps, you know, and that's
Speaker 3: kind of where where I was there in that meditation,
Speaker 3: and man I went, I had a lot of different
Speaker 3: thoughts that were just kind of running around, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's hard to even know what to what to talk about,
Speaker 3: you know, but I do remember thinking about as far as,
Speaker 3: you know, the whole thing you said, as far as
Speaker 3: like how do we get behind a microphone, you know,
Speaker 3: as far as what we've come to understand, and like
Speaker 3: how serious and how big, how much bigger than us
Speaker 3: this whole thing is, you know, and how vast and
Speaker 3: how many levels there are to the mental and I mean,
Speaker 3: all of the people you know that would listen, they're
Speaker 3: all on their own journey. They're all in a very
Speaker 3: different place from each other, you know, on this journey
Speaker 3: listening to the same episode just because it's the episode
Speaker 3: we're releasing at this moment, it might not vibe with
Speaker 3: what they're going through. But maybe there's a little piece,
Speaker 3: maybe we say one thing that can help just in
Speaker 3: your particular journey that you're you know, the part of
Speaker 3: the journey that you're on right now.
Speaker 1: And it's like it's.
Speaker 3: It's very impossible to understand everything everybody at the same time,
Speaker 3: like everybody's going through it, right, and so I don't know,
Speaker 3: it was just trying to understand that and have empathy
Speaker 3: for that, and you know, because what we say isn't
Speaker 3: always going to be right. Of course, you know, we
Speaker 3: said earlier in the podcast we were okay with being wrong,
Speaker 3: you know, And so I don't know, there was a
Speaker 3: lot going on in there.
Speaker 1: So it was good. It was good, though, Ah, I
Speaker 1: feel that I had an abundance of thought as well.
Speaker 1: At first. You know, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not
Speaker 1: sitting in my my computer chair that I'm used to
Speaker 1: sitting in. I'm sitting in this chair without wheel. I
Speaker 1: like to be able to roll around. I'm antsy all
Speaker 1: the time, but this is more of like a just
Speaker 1: keeps you on one spot kind of chair, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's not as comfortable. But you know, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, well, this whole episode, it's it's not a
Speaker 1: comfortable chair. And my back was starting to hurt, and
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, like, you know what, let me
Speaker 1: in this meditation. I was trying to almost transmute the
Speaker 1: hurting back, right, and just initially because I wanted to
Speaker 1: be able to go as deep into meditation as I could,
Speaker 1: and I knew I couldn't do that if if my
Speaker 1: focus was on my back hurtain, simple shit like that, right,
Speaker 1: And so dude, I just I don't know, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I like thought of this
Speaker 1: or if it just started to happen, but I almost
Speaker 1: felt like I was. It's gonna sound strange, dude, and
Speaker 1: I don't mean it in the literal human sense. Almost
Speaker 1: look at it as in the cosmic sense, if you will.
Speaker 1: I felt as if I was sitting inside of like
Speaker 1: the cosmic motherly womb, and that cosmic motherly womb, I
Speaker 1: was resting in it in like my back's not up
Speaker 1: against the chair. I felt as if there was an
Speaker 1: embrace around me, almost like I was in like a
Speaker 1: cosmic cocoon or some sort, right to where I now
Speaker 1: no longer had to worry about my back kind of aching, right,
Speaker 1: And it, dude.
Speaker 3: Literally you're lucky to be sitting there.
Speaker 1: You know. It literally took me completely out of my
Speaker 1: back even hurting. And so that's like a form of transmutation.
Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing is what I was, you know,
Speaker 1: getting there to understand was and we've talked about it before,
Speaker 1: you know, yes, the all is mine and the universe
Speaker 1: is mental and all is one and all that stuff, right,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, there is a there's a
Speaker 1: co creation force happening, or a co existence force, or
Speaker 1: a dance partner, if you will. Whatever this universe is,
Speaker 1: we are dancing with it. It can't dance without us,
Speaker 1: and we can't dance without it. We are it, it
Speaker 1: is us. It's a it's a divine union, if you will, right,
Speaker 1: And so I started to think, man, like that is
Speaker 1: so amazing. You just put forth the positive thought, the energy,
Speaker 1: the frequency, whatever you need to connect with it, and
Speaker 1: it will duplicate it back to you and sometimes even
Speaker 1: overshoot whatever you're trying to even give out, right, And
Speaker 1: that's kind of like an awesome thing, because all I
Speaker 1: was thinking was my back is hurting. I want to
Speaker 1: try and find a way to allow myself to go
Speaker 1: into this meditation. And bang, I'm wrestled, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: nestled up inside of a cosmic womb, like so strange,
Speaker 1: and I don't even it's hard to even put into
Speaker 1: words what I was like picturing, but it's just so
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. So anyway, I went there and then
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I started to because I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know what goes unnoticed all the time
Speaker 1: is you know they talk about like and this is
Speaker 1: the original story. It depends on what story you're pulling from.
Speaker 1: But if you're going to the etymological like beginning roots
Speaker 1: of certain words and certain phrases and certain initiations and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, it was never supposed to be the Father,
Speaker 1: Son and the Holy and the Holy ghost, right. It
Speaker 1: was supposed to be the Divine Mother, the Divine Father,
Speaker 1: and then the like the kid, right, like it's creation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I started to think, you know, everybody's always
Speaker 1: trying to reach out to old Father God, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: people just be forgetting about Mama, about Mama bear, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I was just like, let
Speaker 1: me try and reach out. And that's what I was
Speaker 1: trying to do. I was just trying to connect with
Speaker 1: that divine feminine you know that the the Mother God.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Earth, maybe maybe it's something even more than that.
Speaker 1: It is the moon to the sun, you know, in
Speaker 1: that same sense. And I was just trying to reach
Speaker 1: out to that equal but opposite divine force and man
Speaker 1: such a warm embrace I felt and in a an
Speaker 1: unha I don't even know the word. Let me think
Speaker 1: about it here for a second. An unspeakable amount of
Speaker 1: love and peace and calmness. And and I think that that, actually,
Speaker 1: that nine to sixty three was perfect for that. That
Speaker 1: nine hundred and sixty three hurts. You know, you're thinking
Speaker 1: about it, and it's like, it would make sense if
Speaker 1: there is a god, it would make sense that it
Speaker 1: would be a woman. To me, like, it wouldn't make it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it is. I'm just saying if
Speaker 1: it's one or the other, it would make sense that
Speaker 1: it's more of a motherly creation.
Speaker 3: One or the other, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 3: where we go wrong. You know, it's like why not,
Speaker 3: like you said, people never think about the mother, right,
Speaker 3: It's like, well.
Speaker 1: Because she's probably a witch. Yeah, that's where it would go.
Speaker 1: It's like an it's demonic.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a mother, there's a father, there's a
Speaker 3: you know what comes from that, which is us, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And so it makes perfect sense. Well, and so I
Speaker 1: took that and I started thinking, man, you know, just
Speaker 1: thinking about existence as a whole and certain lessons that
Speaker 1: we can learn from the the experience of what it
Speaker 1: means to be a human. If every single thing that
Speaker 1: is going on is nothing more than us and our
Speaker 1: mind and just the oneness of everything, then every single
Speaker 1: experience and emotion and embrace and heartache and sadness and
Speaker 1: happiness and everything in between on the polls is all
Speaker 1: our own creation. So I'm thinking, all right, well, if
Speaker 1: that is what we're here to learn, then I wonder
Speaker 1: how we're going to apply it after you know, we
Speaker 1: kind of cease to exist as a human, right, if
Speaker 1: it is kind of a goal of just like you know,
Speaker 1: every single incarnation is some form of lesson that we
Speaker 1: have to learn towards an ultimate goal, I would have
Speaker 1: to imagine it's something like that. And I'm sure, you know,
Speaker 1: fuck it, humans are the ones that create time. So
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, that's on you. You know. It's that
Speaker 1: You're not up against the clock by any means. And
Speaker 1: so I'm starting to think, like, man, I wonder if
Speaker 1: the lessons to be learned are almost taking what you
Speaker 1: learned in this reality and being able to apply it
Speaker 1: in a higher sense. So in the sense of whenever
Speaker 1: we were in that horrible, nasty, fucking, horrifying nightmare of
Speaker 1: a trip. What if we were able to what term
Speaker 1: am I looking for, simulate what it felt or what
Speaker 1: it feels to be embraced by a divine mother, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, imagine your mom or whoever
Speaker 1: you love, your wife, whatever, right, your your husband, for
Speaker 1: any of the people that are out there listening, whatever,
Speaker 1: whoever the closest, most embracing, loving person is in your life.
Speaker 1: What if you were to be able to create that
Speaker 1: internally and use that almost as an anchor to pull
Speaker 1: you out of the harder times, Because if everything is
Speaker 1: all won anyway, then that's kind of a superpower.
Speaker 3: It absolutely is. And you know you speak of this
Speaker 3: co creation like, Okay, first off, the sensation or experience
Speaker 3: you were having with sitting in the cosmic womb or
Speaker 3: however you describe that you created that, that whole experience.
Speaker 1: Was you creating that with your mind? Yes? You know.
Speaker 3: So the co creation that you were talking about is
Speaker 3: the co creation of your mind and everything else. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like the mind is even separate
Speaker 3: from your body, Like your mind can experience looking at
Speaker 3: your hand, you know, And so it's your mind and
Speaker 3: everything else beyond that is the co creation, right.
Speaker 1: Well, and even that is part of the illusion if
Speaker 1: you think about it, you know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: all right, So yes, in our reality, in in you know,
Speaker 1: in our creation, there would have to be us and
Speaker 1: the universe, or us and God or us and the
Speaker 1: rest of the all of l everything else, right, But
Speaker 1: if all is one, then it's all kind of an
Speaker 1: illusion anyway. So even even beyond being a human where
Speaker 1: you are just pure awareness or pure consciousness or whatever,
Speaker 1: it's like, you're all of that anyway. You you are
Speaker 1: the warm embrace from a mother all along with the
Speaker 1: baby or the kid or whoever that is being embraced.
Speaker 1: You are that you're both at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: and and going through the process of life. You know
Speaker 1: what it's like to be both. You know what it's
Speaker 1: like to be a little kid and embraced by your mom,
Speaker 1: And you know what it's like to be a grown
Speaker 1: adult tending to a little kid and embracing them and
Speaker 1: making them feel that same that same warmth and that
Speaker 1: same comfort and love that you felt whenever you were
Speaker 1: a baby. Right like, you're you're both. You're both characters
Speaker 1: at the same exact time. And if time is nothing
Speaker 1: but an illusion, I mean, take that as far as
Speaker 1: you fucking want. But you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: it really can go to almost every extent. I don't know,
Speaker 1: my mind's just being blown with every.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's what can happen. You know, when
Speaker 3: you allow the mind to go wherever it will, it's
Speaker 3: infinite in that in that manner, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like in that manner, rather you know.
Speaker 3: Whatever you think of, whatever you put wherever you put
Speaker 3: yourself as the experience you can have, you know, and
Speaker 3: so being able to, like we said, rise above a
Speaker 3: certain situation that isn't preparable, which is not gonna lie
Speaker 3: like you said, even it's easier said than done, you know,
Speaker 3: in the experience we were having or I think we're
Speaker 3: just we'll just call that the lesson, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, because that was definitely many lessons kind of
Speaker 3: wrapped into one illusion of.
Speaker 1: A single lesson, you know, a single.
Speaker 3: Experience was many lessons. Like a dude, I'm telling you,
Speaker 3: it's like a almost like a shortcut, Like I'm sure
Speaker 3: that we could have learned a lot of what we
Speaker 3: learned from that experience over a couple of years, you know,
Speaker 3: like you haven't experience.
Speaker 1: Over a lifetime. You learn a lesson. Oh, then you
Speaker 1: learn that lesson. Then you learn. But we got a
Speaker 1: lot out of that, so much so.
Speaker 3: That there's lessons that we learned that we're not even
Speaker 3: aware of because we're gonna experience something and we're going
Speaker 3: to think back to some shit we learned and then go, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: well I'm glad that happened now because now this situation
Speaker 3: is easy more easily transmutable or whatever, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know, man, the co creation of
Speaker 1: your mind and everything else, I like that. I mean
Speaker 1: it's and it's just going to continue to unfold. And
Speaker 1: and I I do get it now. Whenever you listen
Speaker 1: to sages and gurus and masters and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: it's like psychedelics are a very powerful thing. But it
Speaker 1: is a shortcut, like it absolutely is. And at a
Speaker 1: certain point you start to realize, oh my god, all
Speaker 1: that shit is already naturally, naturally happening inside of me,
Speaker 1: that that DMT is already coursing through our veins, and
Speaker 1: every experience and every emotion and every thought has already
Speaker 1: been experienced by us if we are all like one
Speaker 1: thing anyway, right, and so you don't, like, you don't
Speaker 1: need to continue to do your DMT and your mushrooms
Speaker 1: and all these other things. Like whenever you've experienced what
Speaker 1: they give you, you can start to create that and
Speaker 1: a much more manageable and less chaotic level within yourself
Speaker 1: through you know, certain practices of meditation or mindfulness and
Speaker 1: awareness and understanding. You know your place within the cosmos.
Speaker 1: You are but a drop in the ocean, and the
Speaker 1: ocean and a drop, right, and like you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: need to feel that. You don't need to see the
Speaker 1: visuals of that through crazy blasts off of DMT or
Speaker 1: the melting into the couch and having fucking roots grow
Speaker 1: out of your body, you know, through mushrooms or anything
Speaker 1: like that. You know it because you've already experienced it.
Speaker 1: And I would say that you know there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with a shortcut from time to time, but eventually you
Speaker 1: can start to implement that short cut inside of you
Speaker 1: and understand that like time is on illusion anyway, you
Speaker 1: never needed a shortcut, and it's okay to take the
Speaker 1: scenic rout from time to time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard I've actually heard stories or at least
Speaker 3: a story of someone saying that be the mushroom or
Speaker 3: whatever psychedelic it was, told him or her that they
Speaker 3: didn't need to come here anymore, like you don't need
Speaker 3: to be here anymore. Like and I almost wonder if
Speaker 3: it wasn't It wasn't even really necessarily an entity or
Speaker 3: someone telling that.
Speaker 1: Person you don't need to be here.
Speaker 3: It was just the understanding, the knowing when they got there,
Speaker 3: I don't need to go here no more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know what I need to do, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it, dude. And and like I you know, I
Speaker 1: used to think, like I said this in the last episode,
Speaker 1: I used to think that people were crazy. They would talk,
Speaker 1: you know, very highly of their d MT experience or
Speaker 1: their ayahuasca experience or their mushroom experience. You're like, dude,
Speaker 1: fucking do you want to do it again? I'll do
Speaker 1: it with you. And they're like one's good enough for
Speaker 1: a lifetime. Yeah, And it's like, you know, every single
Speaker 1: thing is good in dosages, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: you just you don't need to to have every single
Speaker 1: little bit of DMT that is outside of your body,
Speaker 1: because that's already in you. It is already giving you
Speaker 1: breadcrumbs every single day, every single moment of your existence,
Speaker 1: you know. And you know it's nice to have a
Speaker 1: big old heap and bowl of cap'n crunch in the morning.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm just going crazy now,
Speaker 1: but it is solid anyway, We're all mad here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So yeah, fun episode. I'm very happy we did this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and everything happens for a reason.
Speaker 3: People are going to do what they're gonna do, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Some people are still called to it,
Speaker 3: and that's fine. You know, if it's part of your journey,
Speaker 3: good for me. I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel the same exact way. And look, we're
Speaker 1: not judging anybody that wants to continue to do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we did it a lot of times, you know, psychedelics,
Speaker 1: and we tripped our balls off, and we came to
Speaker 1: crazy conclusions and wild downloads and some of the most
Speaker 1: amazing experiences, laughing so much that we couldn't stop crying,
Speaker 1: crying so much that we started to laugh, I mean,
Speaker 1: and everything in between, dude, and and you know, we
Speaker 1: got to that point we reached the threshold of that,
Speaker 1: and we don't look back negatively at the experiences. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, it's the fucking great teacher after all. Anyway,
Speaker 1: what they say, man, and we found that out for sure,
Speaker 1: we did. We did so anyhow, the one hopefully you're
Speaker 1: enjoying walking with us on this journey. We love being
Speaker 1: on the journey with you and sharing our experiences and
Speaker 1: the conclusions that we come to realize and understand over time.
Speaker 1: And it just makes you know, all of these more
Speaker 1: esoteric and occult and spiritual and magical in which he
Speaker 1: concepts that much easier to swallow, and that much what's that.
Speaker 3: Much more tangible yes, out there? You know, once you
Speaker 3: start to really I mean I'm not even saying I
Speaker 3: fully understand it, because I don't think anybody fully understands it.
Speaker 3: But just when you start to grasp certain things, it
Speaker 3: just becomes so much more tangible. And it's not so
Speaker 3: you know, sparks flying out of the wand you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, you really see it for what it
Speaker 3: really is and what it can do for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Well, I mean, look, I think
Speaker 1: this is only another step in the journey, and we
Speaker 1: will keep on walking until there ain't no more good
Speaker 1: damn tread on these shoes, baby, and that's just the way.
Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much for coming to hang
Speaker 1: out with us tonight. We really appreciate it. We love you,
Speaker 1: and we'll see you on the flip side. Keep keep