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Speaker 1: Congratulations Ziggy on this incredible book. Because I had the

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opportunity to read this book out loud to the little

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ones across the street, to watch them react was so amazing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I had the same experience a couple

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of days ago.

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Speaker 3: I'm reading for a bunch of kids, and it's the

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reaction that does fill in my heart.

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Speaker 2: I had so much joy, was so much fun.

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Speaker 1: You know what's so great about this is that it

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really gives them the opportunity to not only look at

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the pictures, but to hear human interaction, face to face

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human interaction. And they love to listen to stories.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the kids then were they were falling

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through the book, and I guess you know that the

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word pajamin they find out very funny.

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Speaker 2: Pajamin. I know, kids find out such a funny word.

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Speaker 1: But because I first started falling in love with that

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name pajama all the way back to laughing in the

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nineteen seventies because they were talking about pajamas on TV.

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Speaker 2: Ah. There you go.

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Speaker 1: In each one of these pages, the way that you

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work one on one with with Letitia, I mean, the

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every page is its own story. Because I would stop

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after the one page and say have you done this before?

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Have you had a flashlight game? Have you done things?

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So it really does create that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean some of this stuff like the

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games and that I used to play as a child,

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like you know, my father would play that. It's called

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hotar Calle where you would hide something and have a

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search for it and it would tell us if we

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are recording it.

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Speaker 2: You get in hot to Oh you're burning up, You're

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on fire. You're on fire. So the thing so it's

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it's real live experiences in there.

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Speaker 1: You know, did you create any music while you were

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doing this? Because I feel a vibration of sound.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this sound the audiobook that for this book

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is me singing the book.

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Speaker 2: It's not me reading it. So I'm singing the book.

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Speaker 3: So this book is a song basically I love it,

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so I sing the book. So that, yeah, the music

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is a part of it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Wow, where did the idea originally come from? And what

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were you just walking through the mall one day? Is like,

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you know, I want to do a book that I

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can sing to.

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Speaker 3: No, Well, well how I started is me actually in

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my house you know, with my and it's been for years.

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Like I've all the kids know when they were young,

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it's the same thing. I've a young nine year old no,

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and I do the same thing with them, like whenever

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I need to, like have them, you know, do something

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or listen to me. You know where that be bedtime,

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dinner time, homework time, you know whatever I take out

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the garbage time.

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Speaker 2: I would make up a song or a jingle. I

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would like sing it and you know that they would

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laugh and then they would get it done.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: So it's a way for me.

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Speaker 3: This is a way of communicating you know, music and

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rhymes and doing it in a fun way.

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Speaker 2: It's much more easier than trying.

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Speaker 3: To be stern and you know, be like very strict

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and hey go do this now, you got to do it,

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you know, make it fun, you know, communicate with the

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kids in their language.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Well, in the in the state of the world that

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we're in right now, we need a book like this.

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Adult are going to get this book and they're going

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to laugh because I mean, how many times did we

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get in trouble for jumping on the bed?

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Speaker 2: But yet you're doing it inside this.

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Speaker 3: Book, jump out of bed, jumping down of the coach, yeah,

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it's all yeah, but this is that's why Pajamin it's

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like a time of freedom and joy. That's one moment

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in time where the kids can just let go and

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the pearents won't be like, oh, don't like it's one

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of those one of those moments, you know, where I

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really can enjoy life and let the kids just be free.

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Speaker 2: You know a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of being free, you actually kind of suggest inside

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this book that when you know, selecting what pajamas you're

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going to wear tonight, that's very important to a lot

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of kids.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but my kids is so like, you know,

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my wife she'd say, you, you know, were this weird

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that and they'll be like, no, they want to wear that,

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and there'd be sometimes a discussion.

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Speaker 2: But in the Pajamina moment, you can wear whatever you like.

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There's no like, there's no rules here.

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Speaker 3: This is what it's about, Like put down some of

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the rules and just let the kids be who the

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Ziggy Marley coming

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up next. The name of the book Pajamon from Ziggy Marley.

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One of the reasons why I think adults are gonna

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love this is because everywhere I go anymore, people are

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wearing their pajamas. Even to a grocery store. Everybody is

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wearing their jammys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and slippers. Yes, that's funny, that's true. It's true.

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Speaker 3: It's just I mean, you know, it's when you put

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down your pajamas, it's a different feeling, you know, it's

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a different feeling.

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Speaker 2: It's a more relaxed feeling, a more relux vibe.

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Speaker 3: I feel like, like even when you're out in public,

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it's just it's less stressful than when you're wearing a

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numb you put pajamas, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of the book is when

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they're banging on the pots and pants, because I still

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have a photograph of me doing that at the age

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of three, because I mean, that's that to me was music.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the real that's a real deal. That's the

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real deal we do.

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Speaker 3: We make music out of anything, and you know that's

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and sometimes you know, kids, kids should know that music

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kimn made, not just some instruments. And you don't have

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to be a musician to make music either. You're a

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human being.

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Speaker 2: You can make music. You're a part of music.

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Speaker 3: Your heart beat his music, the puts in the house,

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the plates, whatever you can make music.

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Speaker 2: And the book is trying to explore all of that freedom.

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You know. That's that freedom we'll talk about.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to create any merchandise to go with this,

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because I mean just the term pajamin. I just want

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a T shirt. I want something or even pajamas with

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that word on it.

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Speaker 2: We haven't. We haven't gone that fight into that. But

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there's a good idea though.

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Speaker 1: Pillow fights are in your book. Oh my god, all

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the pillow fights I had with my brothers and sisters

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as we were growing.

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Speaker 3: Up, the greatest fights and the funniest fight. You can't

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get those deiggression in a good way. You know what

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Speaker 1: What did you learn in putting this book together? Because

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you have that connection with with sharing children's stories.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: For me, I think I learned that you know, we

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we need, we need to have time with our kids,

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fun times. Yeah, gether like and not when you not

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only say your kids, but the kids are your friends,

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like just like people getting together.

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Speaker 2: And just having fun.

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Speaker 3: And again, the pajamin idea is that it's a different

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state of mind than just a regular you know, birthday party.

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It's a whole different theme. It's a whole different feeling

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when you have a pajama party. There's there's much more

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intimacy and much more openness with that. I think that's

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what I that's what I get from it, and what

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I learned from it is that, like, you know, we

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need for I think we need even me. I think

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I need to spend more time pajamining. Physically, I need

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more pajamin I need more pajama.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite in a book is right there

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on the dedication page, and you dedicate this book to

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your children as well as your mom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's inspiration, I mean with the kids and you

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know your mom my, Mama says like it's the inspiration.

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It's what it's what, it's what keep it's kind.

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Speaker 2: Of what keep me going.

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Speaker 3: You know my children, you know, and they represent the

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children in the world, and it's the children of the

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world what keep we doing what we're doing because we

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want to make a better world for children and other

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children because it can be better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it should be better, you know. So we

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want to do.

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Speaker 1: That and we want we need it now more than

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ever because a lot of these children are in fear

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right now, and because adults are wearing fear, and that's

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why this book is so important.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's true.

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Speaker 3: You know, I was thinking about it, like all right,

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look what's going on and I'm coming out with this

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book called pajamin It's really it's kind of cont like

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you I would think, you know, like should should there

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be a more serious thing?

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Speaker 2: But this is what we needed.

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Speaker 3: This is this is we need a balance, we need

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we need upliftment and we need joy and we need

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you know, the kids to feel love.

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Speaker 2: You know, so I think it's it's a good timing

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for the book.

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Speaker 1: You know, where can people go to find out more

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about your U r g E Foundation.

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Speaker 3: Urge Your Urge Unlimited Resource and Given Enlightenment. But we

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have an Instagram page and you know, just check me

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just it. It's the same thing as what we do,

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you know, sits on our pages through the social media platforms.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Please come back to the show anytime in the future, Ziggy.

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The door is always going to be open for you.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, all right, and keep pajamming.

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Speaker 2: Let's go