Speaker 1: Congratulations Ziggy on this incredible book. Because I had the
opportunity to read this book out loud to the little
ones across the street, to watch them react was so amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I had the same experience a couple
of days ago.
Speaker 3: I'm reading for a bunch of kids, and it's the
reaction that does fill in my heart.
Speaker 2: I had so much joy, was so much fun.
Speaker 1: You know what's so great about this is that it
really gives them the opportunity to not only look at
the pictures, but to hear human interaction, face to face
human interaction. And they love to listen to stories.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean the kids then were they were falling
through the book, and I guess you know that the
word pajamin they find out very funny.
Speaker 2: Pajamin. I know, kids find out such a funny word.
Speaker 1: But because I first started falling in love with that
name pajama all the way back to laughing in the
nineteen seventies because they were talking about pajamas on TV.
Speaker 2: Ah. There you go.
Speaker 1: In each one of these pages, the way that you
work one on one with with Letitia, I mean, the
every page is its own story. Because I would stop
after the one page and say have you done this before?
Have you had a flashlight game? Have you done things?
So it really does create that conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean some of this stuff like the
games and that I used to play as a child,
like you know, my father would play that. It's called
hotar Calle where you would hide something and have a
search for it and it would tell us if we
are recording it.
Speaker 2: You get in hot to Oh you're burning up, You're
on fire. You're on fire. So the thing so it's
it's real live experiences in there.
Speaker 1: You know, did you create any music while you were
doing this? Because I feel a vibration of sound.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this sound the audiobook that for this book
is me singing the book.
Speaker 2: It's not me reading it. So I'm singing the book.
Speaker 3: So this book is a song basically I love it,
so I sing the book. So that, yeah, the music
is a part of it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Wow, where did the idea originally come from? And what
were you just walking through the mall one day? Is like,
you know, I want to do a book that I
can sing to.
Speaker 3: No, Well, well how I started is me actually in
my house you know, with my and it's been for years.
Like I've all the kids know when they were young,
it's the same thing. I've a young nine year old no,
and I do the same thing with them, like whenever
I need to, like have them, you know, do something
or listen to me. You know where that be bedtime,
dinner time, homework time, you know whatever I take out
the garbage time.
Speaker 2: I would make up a song or a jingle. I
would like sing it and you know that they would
laugh and then they would get it done.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So it's a way for me.
Speaker 3: This is a way of communicating you know, music and
rhymes and doing it in a fun way.
Speaker 2: It's much more easier than trying.
Speaker 3: To be stern and you know, be like very strict
and hey go do this now, you got to do it,
you know, make it fun, you know, communicate with the
kids in their language.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Well, in the in the state of the world that
we're in right now, we need a book like this.
Adult are going to get this book and they're going
to laugh because I mean, how many times did we
get in trouble for jumping on the bed?
Speaker 2: But yet you're doing it inside this.
Speaker 3: Book, jump out of bed, jumping down of the coach, yeah,
it's all yeah, but this is that's why Pajamin it's
like a time of freedom and joy. That's one moment
in time where the kids can just let go and
the pearents won't be like, oh, don't like it's one
of those one of those moments, you know, where I
really can enjoy life and let the kids just be free.
Speaker 2: You know a little bit.
Speaker 1: Speaking of being free, you actually kind of suggest inside
this book that when you know, selecting what pajamas you're
going to wear tonight, that's very important to a lot
of kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, but my kids is so like, you know,
my wife she'd say, you, you know, were this weird
that and they'll be like, no, they want to wear that,
and there'd be sometimes a discussion.
Speaker 2: But in the Pajamina moment, you can wear whatever you like.
There's no like, there's no rules here.
Speaker 3: This is what it's about, Like put down some of
the rules and just let the kids be who the
kids are.
Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Ziggy Marley coming
up next. The name of the book Pajamon from Ziggy Marley.
One of the reasons why I think adults are gonna
love this is because everywhere I go anymore, people are
wearing their pajamas. Even to a grocery store. Everybody is
wearing their jammys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and slippers. Yes, that's funny, that's true. It's true.
Speaker 3: It's just I mean, you know, it's when you put
down your pajamas, it's a different feeling, you know, it's
a different feeling.
Speaker 2: It's a more relaxed feeling, a more relux vibe.
Speaker 3: I feel like, like even when you're out in public,
it's just it's less stressful than when you're wearing a
numb you put pajamas, you know.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts of the book is when
they're banging on the pots and pants, because I still
have a photograph of me doing that at the age
of three, because I mean, that's that to me was music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the real that's a real deal. That's the
real deal we do.
Speaker 3: We make music out of anything, and you know that's
and sometimes you know, kids, kids should know that music
kimn made, not just some instruments. And you don't have
to be a musician to make music either. You're a
human being.
Speaker 2: You can make music. You're a part of music.
Speaker 3: Your heart beat his music, the puts in the house,
the plates, whatever you can make music.
Speaker 2: And the book is trying to explore all of that freedom.
You know. That's that freedom we'll talk about.
Speaker 1: Are you going to create any merchandise to go with this,
because I mean just the term pajamin. I just want
a T shirt. I want something or even pajamas with
that word on it.
Speaker 2: We haven't. We haven't gone that fight into that. But
there's a good idea though.
Speaker 1: Pillow fights are in your book. Oh my god, all
the pillow fights I had with my brothers and sisters
as we were growing.
Speaker 3: Up, the greatest fights and the funniest fight. You can't
get those deiggression in a good way. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1: What did you learn in putting this book together? Because
you have that connection with with sharing children's stories.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: For me, I think I learned that you know, we
we need, we need to have time with our kids,
fun times. Yeah, gether like and not when you not
only say your kids, but the kids are your friends,
like just like people getting together.
Speaker 2: And just having fun.
Speaker 3: And again, the pajamin idea is that it's a different
state of mind than just a regular you know, birthday party.
It's a whole different theme. It's a whole different feeling
when you have a pajama party. There's there's much more
intimacy and much more openness with that. I think that's
what I that's what I get from it, and what
I learned from it is that, like, you know, we
need for I think we need even me. I think
I need to spend more time pajamining. Physically, I need
more pajamin I need more pajama.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite in a book is right there
on the dedication page, and you dedicate this book to
your children as well as your mom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's inspiration, I mean with the kids and you
know your mom my, Mama says like it's the inspiration.
It's what it's what, it's what keep it's kind.
Speaker 2: Of what keep me going.
Speaker 3: You know my children, you know, and they represent the
children in the world, and it's the children of the
world what keep we doing what we're doing because we
want to make a better world for children and other
children because it can be better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it should be better, you know. So we
want to do.
Speaker 1: That and we want we need it now more than
ever because a lot of these children are in fear
right now, and because adults are wearing fear, and that's
why this book is so important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 3: You know, I was thinking about it, like all right,
look what's going on and I'm coming out with this
book called pajamin It's really it's kind of cont like
you I would think, you know, like should should there
be a more serious thing?
Speaker 2: But this is what we needed.
Speaker 3: This is this is we need a balance, we need
we need upliftment and we need joy and we need
you know, the kids to feel love.
Speaker 2: You know, so I think it's it's a good timing
for the book.
Speaker 1: You know, where can people go to find out more
about your U r g E Foundation.
Speaker 3: Urge Your Urge Unlimited Resource and Given Enlightenment. But we
have an Instagram page and you know, just check me
just it. It's the same thing as what we do,
you know, sits on our pages through the social media platforms.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: Please come back to the show anytime in the future, Ziggy.
The door is always going to be open for you.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today? Okay, all right, and keep pajamming.
Speaker 2: Let's go