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Speaker 1: Okay, so just stop for a second and try to

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picture the most I don't know if the most absurd

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disaster you can possibly think of. I'm not talking about

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a volcano or an earthquake. I'm talking about a giant, deadly,

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tidle wave. But and this is the key part, the

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wave isn't made of water.

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Speaker 2: It's made of molasses, right, something you put on your pancakes.

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It sounds like a joke, like a really dark cartoon premise,

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but this was terrifyingly real. January nineteen nineteen, Boston, A

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giant steel tank holding over two million gallons of molasses

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just it completely falls apart and it unleashes this thirty

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five foot high wall of syrup, moving at thirty five

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miles an hour, right into one of the busiest parts

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of the city.

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Speaker 1: And that absurdity is what grabs you. It really does.

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But the story underneath the tragedy and what came after,

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that's what changed everything.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Thrilling Threads. Today we are diving deep into

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the Great Boston Molasses Flood of nineteen nineteen. We're going

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to explore how this almost comical catastrophe was really born

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from corporate greed and just shocked neglect and how it

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didn't just kill twenty one people, it ended up rewriting

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the entire rule book for how we build things safely

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in the modern world exactly. And that's what's so incredible

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about this story. Every time you walk into a building today,

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every single time you see an engineer's stamp on a blueprint,

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you are, in a very real way, benefiting from the

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legal fallout of people drowning in molasses a century ago.

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This was not a freak accident. We're going to show you.

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This was a disaster that was just waiting to happen,

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a perfect storm of bad engineering, a frantic rush for

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profit before prohibition kicked in, and a legal system that

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just wasn't ready for it.

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Speaker 1: This is a story about why that building inspector you

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see on a construction site is so important. So to

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really get this, you have to understand where this happened.

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This tank wasn't in some deserted industrial wasteland. It was

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literally looming over people's homes. Let's start there, Part.

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Speaker 2: One, Boston's crowded Crucible.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, the setting is everything, So picture Boston's North End

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nineteen nineteen. It's a tiny little patch of land barely

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a square mile, but right up against the waterfront on

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Commercial Street, and it is just buzzing with activity. This

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isn't just a place where stuff is stored. People live here,

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they work here. And if you go to the North

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End today you can still feel that. You know, the

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narrow streets, the brick buildings all pressed up against each other.

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It's got that energy. But back then it was even

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more intense, and it had changed a lot. Right, This

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used to be a wealthy area.

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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely, in the eighteenth century it was prime real estate.

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Paul Revere lived there. His house is still standing. It

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was all mansions. But then the Port Boston Harbor it

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just exploded into this huge industrial engine, and the wealthy families, well,

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they moved out. They didn't want to live with the

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noise and the smells.

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Speaker 1: Of the docks, and so a new wave of people moved.

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Speaker 2: In a tidal wave. Really, it became the first stop

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for European immigrants, first the Irish than Jewish families, and

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by the early nineteen hundreds it was overwhelmingly.

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Speaker 1: Italian and that led to just unbelievable density. I read

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that by nineteen fifteen you had forty thousand people living

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in that one square mile forty tho.

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Speaker 2: It was one of the most densely populated neighborhoods in

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the entire United States. It was an absolute powder keg,

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just in terms of human vulnerability. All these people packed

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into tenements with very little infrastructure to support them.

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Speaker 1: And the tank itself was right there on Commercial Street

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in the thick of it all.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just homes. You had the city's public works

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building right there, the Base State Railway terminal, little shops,

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food stalls, horse drawn carts everywhere. At lunchtime on a

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regular weekday, which this was, the streets were just choked

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with people, kids playing, workers on their lunch break, people

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rushing to catch the train, just.

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Speaker 1: Life happening right under the shadow of this monster. The

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colossus on Commercial Street, fifty feet tall. It's designed to

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hold two and a half million gallons of molasses. I mean,

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can you even picture that. It's like three and a

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half Olympic swimming pools stacked on top of each.

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Speaker 2: Other, and it would have just dominated the skyline of

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that neighborhood, a huge, dark steel cylinder towering over these

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three and four story brick tenements, and you.

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Speaker 1: Just have to wonder, how on earth did anyone think

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it was a good idea to put that right there?

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Speaker 2: Well, that question, that's the key, and it takes us

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right into part two, the sweet rush and the ignored warnings,

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because the answer is a really toxic mix of corporate

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desperation and just complete social indifference.

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Speaker 1: So who owned it?

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Speaker 2: The tank was operated by a company called Purity Distilling,

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which is owned by a bigger company, United States Industrial

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Alcohol or USIA, and USIA was in a bit of

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a panic because of two huge historical events that were

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happening at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what were they?

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Speaker 2: The first was World War One. During the war, molasses

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was actually a really important strategic material for.

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Speaker 1: What I mean. I know, you can make rum, but for.

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Speaker 2: A war industrial alcohol, they would distill the molasses to

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make ethanol, and that ethanol was a key component in

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making munitions explosives.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so the sweet stuff was being turned into bombs

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pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a sort of higher tech version of a

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Molotov cocktail. As one source put it, molasses was fuel

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for the war machine.

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Speaker 1: But the war ended in November nineteen eighteen, so I'm

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guessing the demand for bomb making materials just evaporated.

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Speaker 2: It fell off a cliff, and suddenly USIA has this

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massive infrastructure, including this brand new, enormous tank in Boston

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and a supply chain for molasses, but no one's buying

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their main product.

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Speaker 1: So they needed to pivot instantly.

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Speaker 2: And the pivot was obvious. If you can make industrial alcohol,

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you can make rump. So they decided to go from

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bombs to booze.

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Speaker 1: Which seems like a smart business move except for one

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very big problem looming on the horizon.

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Speaker 2: The massive problem the prohibition clock.

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Speaker 1: Ah right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By this point, the Eighteenth Amendment had already been pushed through.

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Everyone knew that national prohibition was coming. The official date

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was set for January nineteen twenty, exactly one year away.

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After that, selling liquor legally in the United States would

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be over.

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Speaker 1: So they had a one year window, a twelve month

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all out sprint to make and sell as much rum

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as they possibly could before the taps were turned off

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for good.

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Speaker 2: It was a manic profit at all costs race against time.

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You can just imagine the meetings, maximize production, cut every corner,

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ignore any small problems, just fill that tank and get

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the rum out the door.

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Speaker 1: So the pressure on that tank wasn't just you know,

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physical from the molasses. It was financial, immense financial pressure, and.

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Speaker 2: That pressure, that desperation. It explains what happened. Just two

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days before the disaster. On January thirteenth, nineteen nineteen, they

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got a new shipment of molasses and they filled that

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tank right to the very top to the brim two

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point three million gallons. And you have to remember molasses

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is way heavier than water, raise about twelve pounds per gallon.

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So the stress on the steel walls of that tank,

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what engineers call hoops stress, was just astronomical. It was

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at its absolute maximum.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but if the tank was so dodgy, and we're

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about to get into just how dodgy it was, how

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did they get away with it? Weren't there inspectors building codes.

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Speaker 2: That's the crazy part. This was before for any of that.

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no law that said an engineer had to sign off

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on the stress calculations. There was no city inspector who

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was required to check the thickness of the steel. If

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the company paid for a permit and said it's fine,

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the city basically had to take their word for.

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Speaker 1: It unless it was like actively falling over.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and USIA just kept saying it's fine, it's fine,

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even though all the evidence, all the warning signs were

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screaming that it was not fine.

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Speaker 1: So what were those signs. This wasn't something that failed silently,

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was it not?

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Speaker 2: At all? It was a disaster in slow motion from

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the very beginning. The tank itself was a rush job.

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It was built too fast by workers who weren't skilled

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in that kind of construction, and the steel plates they

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used were way too thin for a tank of that

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size holding a liquid that dense.

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Speaker 1: So it started leaking.

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Speaker 2: Almost from day one. I mean, this is one of

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the most incredible details. It leaked so much that neighborhood kids,

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mostly the Italian immigrant children, would bring buckets and pale

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to the base of the tank to collect the runoff.

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Speaker 1: Wait, really, it was leaking that much, not just a drip,

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Speaker 2: We're talking long, fifty foot brown streaks of molasses constantly

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running down the side of this black steel tank. It

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was an open secret. People just got used to it.

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The company even tried to paint the tank brown to

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hide the leaks.

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Speaker 1: That's that is just stunning negligence. They literally tried to

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paint over the problem.

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't just the visible leaks. There were audible

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warnings too. City workers who had offices nearby told the

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company that the tank would and this is a quote,

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grown and shutter and shape every time there was a

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delivery of molasses.

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Speaker 1: You could hear it straining.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you could hear the metal under stress. And for

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two days after they filled it to the top on

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Speaker 1: So you have engineers who must have known it was

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under design, You have neighbors who can see it leaking constantly,

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you have city workers who can hear it about to fail,

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and nothing happen, happens. Why didn't the city step in?

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Why was there, as you said, almost no official outrage.

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Speaker 2: And that's where the social part of this story becomes

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so important and so tragic. The North End was, as

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we said, ninety eight percent Italian immigrants. Most didn't speak English,

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many were not yet citizens. They were politically speaking, completely invisible.

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Speaker 1: They had no political voice, They couldn't vote, they didn't

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have powerful lobbyists at City Hall arguing on their.

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Speaker 2: Behalf exactly, And I think you could be pretty sure

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that if USIA had tried to build that same leaky, groaning,

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dangerous tank in a wealthy neighborhood like Beacon Hill, it

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would have been shut down by lawsuits before the first

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seal plate was in place.

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Speaker 1: But because it was in the North End, they knew

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they could get away with it.

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Speaker 2: The sources are pretty clear that the location was chosen

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because there would be really no opposition. USIA basically had

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contempt for the safety of that community because that community

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had no power to fight back.

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Speaker 1: It's just this bitter irony, isn't it. The very people

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who were ignored, the ones with no political power. Their

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tragedy is what ends up creating safety standards that protect everyone,

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powerful or not.

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Speaker 2: It's the central tragedy and the ultimate legacy of the

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whole event. The political vacuum created the physical vulnerability chilling.

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Speaker 1: And that vulnerability, combined with that frantic rush for profit,

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meant that on January fifteenth, at lunchtime, that tank was

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a bomb waiting to go off. Let's get into it

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Part three, The twenty five minute Catastrophe.

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Speaker 2: The time is just after twelve thirty in the afternoon.

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It's an unseasonably warm day for Boston in January, about

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forty degrees fahrenheit, and that little bit of warmth might

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have been the final straw. It could have caused the

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molasses inside the tank to ferment slightly, creating CO two gas,

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which would have increased the internal pressure just that tiny

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bit more a point, a tipping point, and the eyewitness

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accounts of what happened next are just their visceral. There

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was a patrolman, Frank McManus, who was on his beat nearby.

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He heard two distinct sounds.

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Speaker 1: What were they?

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Speaker 2: The first was what he called a tremendous rumbling, grinding sound.

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That was the sound of the steel plates beginning to tear.

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Speaker 1: And the second sound, this is the one that gets me.

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a machine gun, right.

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't. That was the sound of thousands of

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steel rivets, the bolts holding the tank together, popping off

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one by one under the immense pressure.

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Speaker 1: So the tank was literally unzipping itself. It wasn't just

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a leak, It just blew apart.

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Speaker 2: It completely disintegrated, in one violent explosive burst.

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Speaker 1: And McManus he had the presence of mind to get

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to a call box.

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Speaker 2: He did, and he made what has to be one

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of the strangest emergency calls in history. He told the

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dispatcher sent all available rescue personnel immediately, there's a wave

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of molasses coming down Commercial Street.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that dispatcher must have been thinking.

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Speaker 2: Probably that he was dealing with a prank call, but

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it was real. When the tank failed, all two point

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three million gallons of that molasses shot outwards, accelerating almost

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instantly to about thirty five miles per hour up a

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car exactly. The initial wave was about thirty five feet high,

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and then it sort of leveled off into this churning,

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twenty foot high, one hundred and sixty foot wide wall

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of brown sludge.

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Speaker 1: And because it's molasses, it's not like a water wave

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that would just splash. It had weight, It had mass.

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Speaker 2: Immense mass. It was a liquid battering ramp. It didn't

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just flow around things, it obliterated them. The sources say

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it literally scoured the waterfront. It just picked up everything

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in its.

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Speaker 1: Past, people, horses, carts.

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Speaker 2: Even parts of the elevated railway. It knocked the train

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car clean off the tracks. But the firehouse example is

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maybe the most shocking illustration of its power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about that.

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Speaker 2: So, fire Station thirty one was about eighty feet away

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from the tank. The wave hit. It was such force

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that it lifted the entire building off its foundation and

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shoved its sideways. The second floor collapsed and just pancaked

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down onto the first floor.

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Speaker 1: And there were firefighters inside.

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Speaker 2: Yes, several of them were trapped in this tiny eighteen

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inch crawl space between the collapse floors, and the molasses

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was pouring in rising around them. They were struggling just

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to keep their heads above the goo. It's a miracle

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any of them survived.

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Speaker 1: That's a level of horror that's hard to even comprehend.

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Instantaneous destruction.

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Speaker 2: It was for many people. The initial impact was instantly fatal,

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but the disaster had two phases, and the second one

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was in some ways even more cruel.

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Speaker 1: The sticking exactly.

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Speaker 2: The initial blast was over in minutes, but once the

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waves stopped moving, the cold January air started to cool

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the molasses down, it congealed, It got thicker and stickier

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and heavier. It became this giant, inescapable trap. People were

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literally glued in place.

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Speaker 1: So rescuers couldn't even get to them.

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Speaker 2: They couldn't. They were trying to wade through this stuff,

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and it was like trying to walk through quicksand or

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wet tar. Many of the twenty one people who died

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didn't die from the impact. They drowned or suffocated hours later,

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stuck fast in the cold, thick molasses while rescuers tried

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desperately to reach them.

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Speaker 1: I just I can't imagine the logistics of that rescue.

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How do you even free someone from that?

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Speaker 2: It was frantic. Sailors jumped off ships in the harbor

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to help. Firefighters laid ladders across the surface to try

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and distribute their weight so they wouldn't sink in. They

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were up to their waists, sometimes their chests in this stuff,

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fighting against time as it got colder and harder. It

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was a gruesome, sticky battlefield.

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Speaker 1: Which brings us right to the cleanup part four, the

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sticky aftermath, because once the rescue was over, the recovery

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had to begin, and the scene must have been just apocalyptic.

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Speaker 2: Commercial Street was just splinters. Buildings were gone, and the

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entire area was buried under this layer of what was

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described as basically tar.

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Speaker 1: Two point three million gallons of it.

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Speaker 2: It was a problem nobody'd ever fased before. If it's water,

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it drains. If it's mud, you can shovel it. But

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molasses just congeals. It's too sticky to shovel properly, but

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it's too thick to just wash away.

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Speaker 1: What did they even try to do?

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Speaker 2: Well? First, they tried blasting it with high pressure hoses

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from the fire hydrants. The idea was just to push

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it all into the harbor, but that didn't no because

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the high sugar content made it resistant to fresh water.

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The water just sort of rolled over the top or

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mixed in a little bit, creating an even bigger volume

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of sticky mass.

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Speaker 1: So then what picks and shovels.

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Speaker 2: They tried that too, but the molasses would just sort

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of reform and stick to the tools. They even tried

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something really extreme. They tried to burn it off with

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gas torches burning molasses.

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Speaker 1: The smell must have been unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Oh just imagine burnt sugar, smoke and whatever else was

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mixed in with the debris. And it didn't even work.

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It just created this hard carameized crust on top, which

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insulated the gow underneath and made it even harder to

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get at.

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Speaker 1: So they're just stuck. The whole neighborhood is just trapped

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in syrup.

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Speaker 2: It seemed that way for weeks until one firefighter had

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a brilliant IDEA. Okay, he realized it was a chemical problem.

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If fresh water didn't work, maybe a different kind of

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water would. He suggested pumping salt water in from Boston

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Harbor ah.

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Speaker 1: The salt.

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Speaker 2: The salt was the key. For whatever chemical reason, the

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salt in the ocean water was able to cut through

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the molasses. It broke down the viscosity just enough that

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they could finally start washing it away.

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Speaker 1: So they just started flooding the streets with ocean water.

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Speaker 2: Millions and millions of gallons of it, pumping it out

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of the harbor onto the streets, and then letting it

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all flow back into the harbor, carrying the molasses with it.

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Speaker 1: The scale of that is just mind boggling.

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Speaker 2: It took six months. Six months of this worked just

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for the North End to get back to something resembling normal,

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and every basement, every cellar in the area was filled

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solid with this stuff.

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Speaker 1: I read about a banana salesman he'd hid in his

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life savings over four thousand dollars in cash in his

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shop's basement, and they.

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Speaker 2: Had to dig out a solid twelve feet of molasses

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and debris just to find his money. Think about that

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shoveling through twelve feet of cold, hard tar.

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Speaker 1: And the legacy, the physical mark on the city. It

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lasted for so long.

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Speaker 2: The harbor was brown for months. But the smell, that's

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what people remembered. Local said that for years, even decades later,

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on a really hot summer day, you could still get

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a faint, sweet, sickly smell of molasses rising up from

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the ground.

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Speaker 1: It was a sensory ghost of the disaster exactly. So

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the physical cleanup took half a year, But the real

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lasting change that wasn't about cleaning the streets. It was

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about cleaning up the law. The company USIA was in

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a world of trouble. Then that takes us to our

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final part five. The unintended legacy right.

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Speaker 2: Usaa's negligence was just so obvious, the shoddy construction, the

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ignored leaks, the mad dash for profit. By nineteen twenty,

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they were facing over one hundred separate civil lawsuits, from

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the families of the dead, from the one hundred and

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fifty people who were seriously injured, from businesses like the

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railway whose property was destroyed.

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Speaker 1: So how did the carts even handle that one hundred

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different trials.

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Speaker 2: Well, they did something that was at the time revolutionary.

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They consolidated all those suits. One hundred and nineteen different

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plaintiffs all grouped together to sue USIA as a single entity,

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and in doing so, they essentially created the blueprint for

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the modern class action lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, So this sticky, bizarre disaster is the reason

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we have class action suits today for oil spills or

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faulty products.

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Speaker 2: It was the first really significant one against a major

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US corporation. It established a legal framework that lets hundreds

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or thousands of ordinary people banned together to take on

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a corporate giant. It completely leveled the playing field.

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Speaker 1: That's huge. That's a massive legacy on its own.

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Speaker 2: It is, But the trial itself said another maybe even

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more important precedent. The case dragged on for five years,

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and USI's main defense was to claim it was an

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act of God. They tried to argue that the tank

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had been sabotaged or that it was just an unavoidable accident.

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Speaker 1: So how did the plaintiffs prove it was negligence?

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Speaker 2: The use science, And this is the other big legal first.

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This trial was one of the first in American history

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to rely heavily on expert testimony as evidence.

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Speaker 1: So they brought in scientists.

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Speaker 2: They brought in structural engineers and physicists, and they basically

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put the tank on trial. Didn't just have people say

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it leaked. They had experts coming with calculations. They calculated

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the exact hoop stress on the steel plates from two

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point three million gallons of dense molasses, and then they

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proved with math that the steel used was only half

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as thick as it needed to be to handle that

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pressure safely.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't just that it failed. They proved it

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was designed to fail exactly.

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Speaker 2: They proved it was a result of deliberate cost cutting,

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not an accident, and the judge accepted this scientific evidence

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as legal.

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Speaker 1: Proof, which must have been a game changer, a.

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Speaker 2: Total game changer. In nineteen twenty five, the judge ruled

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that USIA was one hundred percent responsible due to negligence.

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They had to pay out about six hundred thousand dollars,

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which is around nine million in today's money.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, the money wasn't the biggest thing.

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It was the aftermath of that verdict.

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Speaker 2: The verdict was the catalyst. It created this huge public

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outcry for reform. People were horrified that a company could

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be so reckless and that the government had no power

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to stop them.

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Speaker 1: And before this, construction was basically the wild West.

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Speaker 2: Architects didn't even have to sign their drawings. An engineer

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wasn't necessarily held legally responsible if their bridge collapsed. There

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were no mandated minimum standards for things like this.

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Speaker 1: And the molasses flood changed all of that.

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Speaker 2: It forced the government's hand. Yeah, the city of Boston

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acted first. They passed new regulations requiring that architects and

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engineers had to formally sign and seal their building plans.

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They had to put their professional license on the line,

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a testing that the design was safe.

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Speaker 1: Which completely shifts the accountability. It's not just some faceless

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corporation anymore. It's an individual professional who's on the hook.

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Speaker 2: And that idea spread like wildfire. A wave of building

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codes and regulations swept across the country. The very idea

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that a plumber needs to be certified, That an inspector

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has to sign off on wiring before you put up drywall.

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That an engineer's calculations for a skyscraper have to be

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reviewed and approved. All of that stems directly from the

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lessons learned from this disaster.

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Speaker 1: It's just incredible to think about. We live inside this

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invisible web of safety regulations every single day, and we

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just take it for granted. And it all started because

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a company was in a rush to make rum a

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poorly built tank, a tragic accident, and out of it

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comes the foundation for modern American safety standards.

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Speaker 2: And the ultimate irony, which we touched on, is still

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the most powerful part of the story. The residents of

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the North End were ignored, They were seen as powerless,

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and yet they're horrible suffering created this protective legal structure

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that now shields every single person in this country, whether

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they're rich or poor, a citizen or not.

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Speaker 1: It took this truly horrifying disaster, this freakish event caused

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by greed, to force the government to protect the public

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in a way that politics alone just couldn't achieve at

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the time.

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Speaker 2: Right, we rely on these hidden rules, but we forget

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the human price that was paid to create them, which

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I think leads us to the final question we want

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to leave you with. We have all these codes and

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regulations now, but you still hear stories about shortcuts, about

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warnings being ignored for the sake of profit. So do

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you think we've truly learned the lesson? Do we pay

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enough attention to the quiet groans and the small leagues

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today or does history just keep telling us that, unfortunately,

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tragedy is always the fastest path to meaningful safety reform.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to know what you think. Is it the

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sheer absurdity of the disaster that sticks with you or

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the incredible legal legacy left behind. Let us know we'll

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be back next time with another thrilling thread.

