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Speaker 1: Hi, This is Christina and Carmen and this is another

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episode of Spooky Tells, the podcast for all Things spooky,

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sometimes to crime with the paranormal, but today just a

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paranormal story because surprise, surprise, I'm sick. I was laughing

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when we were with their cousin Bologna, and he's like,

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every time I fucking listen to the podcast, Christina is

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always like, I'm fucking sick. I'm sick. He's like, you

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need to vitamin see or something. I don't know we need.

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It was so funny. He was sick of it. He

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was sick of it. And are we all? Oh? I

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was gonna say, are we all sick of me being sick?

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I am too. Yeah, I have the immune system of

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a fish. No, I don't know what their immune system is, like,

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you have the immune sism of a parent. Yeah, you're right.

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That reminds me about what a Chapel Roone said about

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that you're all miserable. Look, she's from the Midwest. Okay.

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The girls in the mire from the fact of being

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alone being in the Midwest not I'm just kidding. They're

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in the trenches. Modesto is like the Midwest of California.

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So if anything, I feel you, But I'm not a parent,

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so I'm not miserable like them. As chapel Bone would say,

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I'm sorry. You can't make me hate chapel Roone. No, no,

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because she's right. As a parent, Listen, I don't remember

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anything from newborn to three years old. I was in

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the trenches. Okay. Yeah, and now that they're older, it's

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like a little bit more chill. Now it's not miserable.

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But back then, and I think that's what she's talking about,

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because she's twenty seven, that's around the time most people

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are having their sub kids. Yes, yeah, that is no

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joke that no one can tell me. That's sleeping two

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hours every four hours. Is it gonna make you miserable?

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It No, And I, as a parent completely agree, like

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it is the most miserable thing ever. Yeah. Yeah, anyway,

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enough of enough of Chapelone. I forgot already. I don't remember.

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Oh because you're sick, because you're al sick because your

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parent and I'm miserable. Yeah right, and she's right, that's why,

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that's why that happened. Yes, yes, oh man, anyway, yeah,

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so yeah again, I'm sick. Point of all that. I'm sick.

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I'm sick. This is a short episode because I'm sick. Yeah,

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I'm going to stop saying those two words for today. Okay.

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But before we get into the topic, which is whenever

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we need a short episode and I feel like it,

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just yeah yeah. So we're talking about a very scary

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case from manoplu that. But before all that, we have

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a listener's story. Okay, So this story comes from Lily.

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Thank you Lily. Hi ladies, big fan. I've always wanted

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to share this story, but I never know how to

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do an introduction, so I'm getting right into it. I

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love it. When I was about nine or ten years old,

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my mom and my two younger siblings and I lived

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in a small, one bedroom apartment. In the one bedroom,

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we had bunk beds. My brother and I slept on

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the top bunk, and my sister and my mom on

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the bottom bunk. The bunk beds were made out of metal,

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and since we got them secondhand, they creaked really bad

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with any move or when anyone climbed on or off,

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or even if we sat down on the bottom bunk.

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Across the street from a very small apartment complex was

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a convenience store. They give it like a neighborhood hangout.

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We nei the owner or the owner knew us. Now,

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I as the oldest child with immigrants, I was always

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super responsible and put myself to bed early. Wow, very

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eldest immigrant child. Codd yes, and put myself to bed

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early every night because I didn't want to be tired

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for school. Precious on this particular night, I did just that,

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but I kept the room late. On my mom came

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in the room and said her and my siblings would

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be running across the street to the store, and they

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even took chihua wa. You know, Chihuahuas are yappers. You know.

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She went to bed like at seven pm or some shit.

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You know, it's like, you know, six forty five. Actually,

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do you remember when we used to get in trouble

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and then our mom used to make us go to

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sleep in the summertime. Look at six pm, I get

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so mad. So yeah, this was six pm. We know it.

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The family in the chihuahua running to the store, and

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she's going to bed. She closes the bedroom door and

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I hear them all leave. It was not unusual not

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to lock the door because they'd be right back, and

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you could literally see our apartment from the store. I

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usually left facing the wall, covered from head to toe.

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About a minute later, I hear the room door open again,

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and I assume someone came back because they forgot something. However,

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it's really quiet, and I get this instant feeling of dread.

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Too quiet. It's not sleep paralysis because I was not asleep.

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I had barely gone to bed. I was completely awake.

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My heart sink. I heard whoever came in sit down

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on the bottom bunk, because, like I said, our beds

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were creaky. I thought, maybe it's my mom. I'll just

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ask for water and see what they respond. But I

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couldn't bring myself to it. Something in me wouldn't let

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me speak or move. The person in the bottom bunk

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gives a big audible sigh, gets up, and I heard

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them once again open the room door to leave. I

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still can't move. A few minutes past and I hear

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my family come in through the front door again. I

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asked my sister if one of them came back, and

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she said no one. I said nothing else. I am

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now thirty one, and to this day, no one knows

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who came in, whether it was something supernatural or a

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weirdo who saw my family leave. We were poor and

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lived in a bad neighborhood apartment complex. I just remember

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every cell in my body filled with complete terror. Regardless,

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I almost think the actual human stranger is scarier, and

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I don't even want to imagine what I would have

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encountered had I asked for water and it hadn't been

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my mom. I know it's not a super long, crazy story,

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but I think about it a lot and will probably

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never know who was in my room with me that night.

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Thank you ladies for listening. I love love the podcast. Wow.

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I definitely think it was something supernatural paranormal because I

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feel like if it was a human being, unfortunately, they

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would have done something to her, because what kind of

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human being would go and sit in a bed and

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then not do anything, you know, or at least it

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would have like stolen something or you know, I don't know,

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you know, or said something. Yeah yeah, but for sure

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stolen something. People are usually looking for something, so no

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one goes into a house and leave something hand for

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no reason. Yeah yeah, yeah, So yeah, I'm gonna go

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with a tired ghost. The ghost just stat for a

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little bit and it's sighed. I was like, and then left.

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That would make me feel better because I'd rather encounter

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a ghost like that than a human than a person. Yeah,

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then an actual person in my house? Like yeah, I

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think so too. Anyway, that's enough freedom for me. Might throwers?

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Yeah yeah, stop talking now, all right, let's get into it.

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So this is the Gatia from The Manoplula. I don't

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think we need to say what La Mano is at

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this point in the podcast. No, I don't think so,

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but but but we will anyway, radio show where people

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would call it and tell their scary stories and it

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was like super popular and wild. Yeah, think Coast to

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Coast but Mexico. I still don't know what Coast to

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Coast is. Okay, well think LaMnO Polula but why you Okay,

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you don't know who Art Bell is and Coast to

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Go our belli Art Bell Art Bell. No, he's the

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host of Coast to co No, I don't know who

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that is. They've had some crazy calls, really think shut

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up like La Mano Polua. But in the US. Okay,

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so Gatia called La Manoplula and said, are you the

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help me? I'm possessed? First words like yeah, imagine answering

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the phone, isn't that you? Four days before her call

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to Juanda Moon Science, she and her friends were playing

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La Wika or Luigi. During this Wuiji board session, Gatia

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and her friend Bati were making fun of the situation

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and they started mocking the board. I don't do that.

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It's like, no, if you're gonna for whatever reason, touch born,

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I said, which is you said? And my love No,

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I said, twishi. I don't know why I said that.

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It's because I was saying touch and ouigi, like you

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forget to touch a wiji bord. And then I said Tuiji,

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I don't know. Yeah, I probably shouldn't say nothing. Yeah.

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Suddenly the lights went out and the room got extremely cold.

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Then they heard these horribleadas or laughs. The four of

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them were terrified, and her friends decided to go home.

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Five minutes when by and the light came back. Gatia

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went to leave the board in the patio, and when

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she got back inside, her parents had returned. They had

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been at a reunion. Katia told them what happened, and

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they told her none of that was true. This kind

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of stuff wasn't real, and she had been influenced by

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her friends but Gatya was convinced by their attempts at reassurance,

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and things only got worse. When she went to bed

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that night, I just thought, like Scooby do, like real row,

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And then I remembered that TikTok where people are seeing

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that kaga do sounds like Scooby doo. Scooby doo. Yeah,

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oh my god, Okay, tell me why. Enough champagne to

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fill the nye sack? In my head, I saw way

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too many, but one of them khalel no, Yeah, okay,

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that's circulating like all the lines. Enough champagne to fill

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the nile Kalel no. I need you to give me

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the stone bit, are you gal? Okay? Okay. When she

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was in she felt a rush of cold air and

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saw a bunch of shadows. The shadows kept telling her

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they were going to kill her and that she doesn't remember,

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and then she didn't remember what happened. She must have

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passed out. The next morning when her parents woke up

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woke her up, she was acting crazy. She was talking

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in the voice of a man and telling them a

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bunch of grosidias. Oh no, she was like, hellol no,

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enough champagne to fill the Nile. That's what she said

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to them. Wow. Crazy, it was so bad that the

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servant quit on the spot. Okay first, wow, Second they

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had a servant. Okay, okay, okay, okay, got the ice,

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you and your family. Since then, she had a blacked

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out all least three times, and her parents had taken

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her two different specialists to try and figure out what

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was wrong with her. During her call, Katia Beegshua did

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I'm want for help? She told them her parents are

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worried that she's tired, and her parents keep getting mad

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at her. She keeps on begging for help. Kwandermone tells

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her he of course is going to help and that

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she needs to calm down, Calm down, calm calm down.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: If anyone hasn't watched them. Was a show called it

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was It was like a parody of the Real Housewives

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reality show, and it was called The Real Housewives of Something.

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we Yeah, everyone was in Angela from the Office, Angela

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from the Office. Yeah, and yeah, there's an episode where

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they all start fighting because they started telling each other

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calm down, and they're like, yeah, this one thing you

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never tell a woman. It's a it's a calm down. Yeah,

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and anyway that's the reference. Yeah, okay, well was Kwandamon

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told her she needs to calm down. Then he asks

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her if she believes in god es. Katya is answering Kuandamon.

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She tells him the shadows are coming, and she starts

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screaming and crying They're coming, They're coming. Quandamon is telling

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your please calm down, Katya. Then the phone sounds like

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it falls. Then there's a voice that says, do get

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the meta spend well that is cleard quickly wow. But

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Kanda keeps asking for Katya, but the voice says, oh

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you think you're so smart? What your degree? Stop? But

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Guadamon keeps asking for Katya. I'm not sorry. Judam keeps

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asking for Katya, but the voice says, oh you think

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you're so smart. If you get involved with what doesn't

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pertain to you again, I'm going to kill you two.

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Kuatemal then asks who is speaking, and the voice says,

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I'm asta Roth. He replies you're not as Roth and

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repeats Katya's name a few times before asking her to

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repeat after him. Jesus Christ is with me, Katya Danielle's

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shut up in son of a Bitch or beep I'm

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not sure which, Well it's a beep, do outs? I

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don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure what cuss word she uses?

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What you know, but it could have been I feel

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like it. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, I'm gonna kill you.

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again and again, but she never replies. The call was cut.

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They end up calling back, but her dad answered the

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Phone's dad tells that he doesn't want le Mano believe

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that to call them back, that he started has a

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medical issue and she does not need an exorcism. That

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they don't believe in extorcisms, and it only exists in movies.

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And that's the end. No one knows what happened to

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Katya should listened to the creepiest part of the call. Yeah,

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let's do it. I know I.

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Speaker 2: Got or this Tranquila Tranquillata Katya Katuca I s that

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the remos Katya create it was the certain Katya Katya.

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Katia responding repeat hes a griso is that other ka

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Tranquila gratia scucci i satia power such by the Katya

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she sounds like she's in an episode of That's why

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I have to say I agree. Then when she's when

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he says like who am I speaking to? Or she

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like laughs a little bit and then says, as that

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ales that part was great. Yeah, I guess we should

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talk a little bit about us now. I want to

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say it in Spanish as yeah, who is he? Who

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is she? He is the grand Duke of Hell, of

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the first demonic hierarchy two which bails above and Lucifer

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also belongs, So he's like up there, up there, top

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tier demon so as the Rod is depicted as a

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naked man with wings and the hands and feet of

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a dragon and a second pair of feathered wings beneath

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the main one, So he has two sets of wings. Yes, wow, cool.

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He wears a crown and he holds a snake in

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one hand, and he writes a wolf or a dog.

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of transport, actually three methods of transportation. His first set

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of wing to second set of wings and the dog

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or wolf. So that's cool. Yeah. Yeah. The Duke has

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four demons to directly serve him Amn, Pruslass, Barbados, and

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russ chivarec russiavac interesting. August is the month during which

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this demons attacks, not August, uh right, so that's when

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his demon, this demons attacks against men are stronger. I

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don't like that, neither think. I don't know the application,

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no right. According to Sebastian mckelly's he's a demon of

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the first hierarchy who seduces by means of a laziness,

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self doubt and rationalized philosophies. Whatever that means, I don't know.

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He makes you lazy with doubt yourself maybe, but I

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don't know. What I don't know is rationalized philosophy. I

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don't know what that is. Yeah, too dumb, and I

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don't feel like think you're the same same. His adversary

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is Saint Bartholomew, who can protect against him, for he

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has resisted asteroists temptations. Okay, Bartholomew Bartellome YOUU to others.

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He teaches mathematical scientists and handicrafts can make it sounds great.

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It doesn't sound bad to me. He can make men

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invisible and lead them to hidden treasures and answers every

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question formulated to him. Okay, doesn't sound too bad. And

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he was also said to give to mortal beings the

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power over serpents. Okay, so far, he doesn't sound too bad.

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What is kabbala? Kabbala also spilled with a C or

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a q, sometimes translated as mysticism or a cult knowledge

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as a part of Jewish tradition that deals with the

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essence of God. Okay, so, a sacred text, experience, or

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the way things work. Cabalists believe that God moves in

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mysterious ways, an esoteric method, discipline, or school of thought

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in Jewish mysticism. Okay, interesting. So in that school of thought,

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Astaroth was a co sanatory of a diabolical pact with

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Urbane Grandeur and was a demon thought responsible for possessing

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the nuns in the convent of Louden Is. I say, Ludon, Oh,

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this is a crazy story. I need to find I

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listened to it. I don't remember what podcast it was,

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but they covered it's like the I think you can

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either find it the Possession of Ludon or the Exorcism

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of Ludon. But it's a group of nuns. Maybe we

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could do it for a patron. Yeah, yeah yeah. In

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the Black Maths ceremony used by notorious French poisoner Love Between,

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Asteroth was called a prince of friendship. He is a

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servant demon to those born August seventh, three elevens. I'll

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tell my friends who are born between these dates, like, hey,

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this is your servant demon. You have a servant demon

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and his name is Astroth and his fall from heaven. Astaroth,

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like many of the fallen angels that fell from Heaven,

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was an angel that resided in Paradise and was a

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member of the Thrones. Due to his position as a throne,

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he was highly ranked amongst the choir of Angels, as

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he would see to the caring of God's throne. However,

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he found himself joining Lucifer's side during the War in

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Heaven and was cast down to Hell alongside all other

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rebel angels. He was president at Pandemonium during Lucifer's rally.

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But what does that sound fun? It's sounds like a party, Yeah,

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a good time, officially declaring himself as an enemy of

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God forever after Lucifer and his rebel brothers conquered Hell

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while newly establishing it as their own kingdom. A hierarchy

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was formed during the process, with Astaroth aiding in the

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decreeen of noble positions. Hell would ultimately be ruled by

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the three some premium monarchs known as the Satanic Triumvirate,

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which consider consisted of Lucifer, Belsebub and Some. These three

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would be above and simultaneously be part of the Seven

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Kings of Hell, whom were the ruling body of the Inferno.

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Due to Asterod's influence and power, he would be closely

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affiliated with the Seven Great Kings and the Triumvirate as well,

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to the point where demonologists counted him among their number

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part of the seven. Okay, that was Astroos and that

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was what about that? He's a top tier demon got

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the ass possession? Wow, she was successed by king adjacent Yeah. Yeah,

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and that brings us to the end of the episode. Yes,

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I think so, can never go wrong with episode. And yeah,

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nobody knows what happened to Kat after that. Damn Well,

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hopefully she became unpossessed. Yeah, hopefully someone took her for

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a nextism yeah, yeah, I don't know, though, she could

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still be out there possessed right now. M mm hmmm.

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Don't like that. Oh, I guess what's take a little

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bronch here for spooky recommendations and we're backs. Do you

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have any Yeah, since we were speaking of satanic things

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and reminding me of two audiobooks I listened to this week. Oh,

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one was Black Sheep by Rachel Harrison. How was why

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stand now? I've read I think actually just two of

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her books. I thought I read more. It was good.

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I think you're right. Oh, it's because I want to

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read like two other ones. Uh, Calcole and there's a

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wearable one. Oh, such sharp teeth, I think, but I've

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only read two so far. So Black Sheep by Rachel Harrison.

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The description a cynical twenty something must confront her unconventional

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family's dark secrets, and this fiery, irreverent horror not from

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the author of such sharp Teeth and cackle. Nobody has

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a normal family, but Vesper writes, is truly something else.

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Vesper left home at eighteen and never looked back, mostly

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because she was told that leaving the staunchly religious community

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she grew up in meant she couldn't return. But then

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an envelope arrives on her doorstep. Inside is an invitation

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to the wedding of Vesper's beloved cousin Rosie. It's to

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be hosted at the family farm. Have they made an

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exception to the rule. It wouldn't be the first time

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Vesper has been giving special treatment. Is the invite a

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sweet gesture in olive branch? A trap? Doesn't matter? Something

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inside her insists she go to the wedding, even if

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it means returning to the toxic environment she escaped, even

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if it means reuniting with her mother, Constance, a former

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horror film star and forever Ice queen when Vesper's When

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Vesper's homecoming exooms a terrifying secret, She's forced to reckon

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with her family's beliefs and her own crisis of faith

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in this deliciously sinister novel that explores the way family

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ties can bind us as we struggle to find our

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place in the world. So I read it four out

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of five stars only because it was a little bit predictable,

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but it was so entertaining that I loved it either way, Okay,

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and it was what does this have to do with Satan. Well,

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this staunchly religious community that her family is involved in

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their Satanists. Oh, okay, and should I spoil it a

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little bit? Or no? I for one love us spoilers. So, yeah,

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her dad is Satan, but she doesn't know it yet.

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She it takes a while for her to find out

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her dad actually is. Okay, but I know I liked it.

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Yeah it was. It was good. It was funny in

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some parts. And who doesn't like reading about like toxic families?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: I love it? Yeah. And then the other one I read,

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so I was gonna ask if you had another one? Okay,

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or listen to it? I should say this one is

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a little bit different. So it's called If Cats Disappeared

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from the World. It's a Japanese book translated to English,

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and it's by Ganki Kawamura. Hopefully he said that right. Okay.

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So this one says the postman's days are numbered. It's

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strange from his family, living alone with only his cat

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Cabbage to keep him company. He was unprepared for the

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doctor's diagnosis that he has only months to live. But

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before he can tackle his bucket list, the devil appears

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to him to make an offer. In exchange for making

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one thing in the world disappear, our narrator will get

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one extra day of life. And so it begins a

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very bizarre week. With each object that disappears, the Postman

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reflects and the life he's lived, his joys and regrets,

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and the people he's loved and lost. I guess that's

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kind of it. The rest is just like about the author, Okay,

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but yeah, sounds cool. It was like Quirky the Devil

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was kind of funny, and in the end he realizes

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how important his dad was to him. And there's nothing

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I love more than a makeup, a family makeup. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I rated that one four out of five. Wow, yeah,

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that sounds good. And guess what I'm listening to now.

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But i'mn't done yet. American Rapture. Oh my god, Yes, okay,

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we must, we simply must talk about it even more.

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Yeah we wait? Have we done our episode on religious

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nor for Patreon? No? Oh okay, because that's where I

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wanted to talk about it. So I'm excited that you

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are ready listening to it. I loved it. I loved it.

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I'm leaving it so far. I just don't like that

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narrator's voice. Yeah, I don't remember. It was okay, it

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was not amazing, I am. Yeah, it's not horrible. It's

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just not my favorite. Yeah, basically was sid Yeah. I

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had been trying to get through the audiobook for the

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Way of King by Brendan Sanderson, not whrror. It's like

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a fantasy y sci fi No, sorry, fantasy, I said fantasy. Yeah,

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I know, but then I said the wrong thing, and

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then I corrected myself even though you had already said it.

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That shit was like forty hours. Oh my god, that's

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like our share of a night. It was like thirty

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nine hours I think, or maybe no, it was less

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than that. My old run out and I didn't I had.

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I was like five percent through. Wow. I don't know

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if I can listen to a fantasy novel because I

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feel like there's also many so much going on. Yeah, yeah,

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so I don't know if I'll attempt that. I don't

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think so. But no, my actual speaker recommendation and it's

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not speaking more than it's actually true crime. It's in

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the crime genre of movies. But and I already talked

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about it for like forty seconds on TikTok, but it's

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called Breath Though or Noise. It's on Netflix, and wow,

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it's such a such a tragic but beautiful movie. This

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mom is searching for her daughter. Her daughter has been

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missing for like eight months at this point, and at

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the beginning of the movie, they're called to the office

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of like the investigators to see if it's her daughter,

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and like it was like, basically to them, a waste

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of time because like there doesn't even match the description

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of their daughter, Like their daughter had a very distinctive

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tattoo that actually matches her own, like her the mom

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and daughter had matching tattoos, and this body doesn't. So

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it's like the parents were like, why didn't you just

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look at this information that's already in the file. But

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like the last investigator left and he was replaced with

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someone else, so it's someone new and like just to

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show how how like, yeah, the system works where like

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people come and go and then like it's like starting

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over for the family and yeah, so from that point on,

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the mom basically is like, you know what, I need

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to find her. I need to look for her. And

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so she goes to the town and she's been there

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plenty of times. But she goes to the town where

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the daughter went. She was like on a vacation with

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her friends when she went missing, and she goes to

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the town. She starts from there, she meets with a

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journalist who's helping her. This journalist is with her the

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whole time. They're they're figuring this out together and they uncover,

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of course corruption. They also team up with another group

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of like mom searchers, that's Maddis and you know you

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see them, all of them have missing family members. They

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00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,359
dedicated themselves to helping others find you know, people they

464
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,440
look through suspected like like we I guess we talked

465
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,000
about it on.

466
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: No.

467
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: Last episode of the Spanish episode. We talked about that's right,

468
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880
that's right, and it's like basically like that group, this

469
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,480
is what they are in the movie because there's so

470
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:54,880
many of them, like we said in that episode. Yeah,

471
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,880
but then you can see the moms also like find

472
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,839
joy in each other and it's like they're, you know,

473
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:04,400
they've have been forced to become activists at this point

474
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,400
because this is now activists work looking for the disappeared.

475
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,240
But they also and it just made me think of

476
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:12,880
you know, when people says, resistance is joy, But they

477
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,440
don't mean like sit down and don't mean ignore current

478
00:29:16,519 --> 00:29:21,000
events and exactly by yourself a latte and read your booget,

479
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,960
ignore the world. That's not what that means, right, Like

480
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:27,640
these these women just went through looking at a very

481
00:29:27,799 --> 00:29:32,519
similar situation like rendro psychia, where they've collected groups of bodies,

482
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:35,599
like like evidence bodies. Like it's like very similar. And

483
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,359
at the end of the day they're like all together

484
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:39,799
eating and then someone starts playing music they all start

485
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,640
dancing together. That's that's what that means to me. Yeah,

486
00:29:43,839 --> 00:29:47,640
Like in this horribleness of them doing this horrible but

487
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:50,599
meaningful work that they have been forced to do, they

488
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,359
have found joining each other. And it's like the first

489
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,440
time that the main character, the mom who's searching for

490
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,599
her own daughter laughs. It's the first time she laughs

491
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,720
in the hier movie is right there, and even there's

492
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:04,799
all the little moments with her and the journalists where

493
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,519
they like one of them will tell a joke or

494
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,839
the other, and you know, but like it's it's it's

495
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,039
it's it's such a good movie, but it's like it's

496
00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:17,640
so sad. And then she, uh, well, I don't want to.

497
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,319
I don't want to spoil anything because I feel like

498
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,799
everybody really should watch the movie. What is it on

499
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,880
streaming Netflix? Netflix? Netflix? Yeah, there's another similar movie on

500
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:29,000
Prime and I don't know I've heard of that one.

501
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,160
I haven't seen it. I don't remember the name. Yeah,

502
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,839
but this one is agree though. On Netflix. There's like

503
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,680
there was a clip because you know, March eighth is

504
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:39,440
International Women's Day and people go out and protests, and

505
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:42,319
it's a huge deal in Latin America and Mexico, not

506
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,640
so much here in the US, but here it's been commercialized, yes,

507
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:50,480
but over there it's real, meaningful protests and people demanding

508
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,079
justice for their loved ones. And so there's a depiction

509
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,880
of a very similar like protest in the movie and

510
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,920
it gets it gets insane. Wow. But there's a clip

511
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,599
in the movie that was going around. The whole reason

512
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680
why I watched it because I came across the clip

513
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,200
on TikTok where they're preparing for the protests and they're

514
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,000
like in the central of this town and the main

515
00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:16,160
character is talking to a younger woman who's like bumming

516
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,920
a cigarette off her and as she's running the girl,

517
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,160
they're talking and they're having like a discussion, and then

518
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,960
the girl gives her back, like you know, the cigarette.

519
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,799
She's like, all right, I gotta go now, and then

520
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,599
the main character is like, well, where are you going?

521
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:30,960
And then she turns around. She's like what, don't tell

522
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,720
me you're like one of the ones that care about

523
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:35,480
the monuments more than the missing people. I saw that clip,

524
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,160
but it's Spanish, like, oh, Apoco, it is the last

525
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,880
call in Portellos Monumentos. It's like the clip that was

526
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,960
going around, but that's the clip alone is like, well,

527
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:46,039
let me check this movie out. And yeah, it's like

528
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,359
an hour and a half long maybe, but such an impactful,

529
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:55,039
important movie which I don't know much different than like

530
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,759
I don't know, Yeah, e is right, he shoot she

531
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,799
who must not be named they meant to say, and

532
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:07,079
it's just yeah, that reminds me of a podcast I

533
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:10,680
first came across through TikTok and it was a group

534
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:15,039
of Mexican women who are like singing one of the

535
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:19,079
popular songs that they always singing as a match as oh,

536
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,200
I know which one? Yeah, And so then I checked

537
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,039
out the podcast and it's called and it's a group

538
00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:27,920
of six women friends that's what they're called sas and

539
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:33,000
they have an episode, Well, the episode where that clip

540
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,920
came from is Feminism, and so I started listening to it.

541
00:32:37,119 --> 00:32:39,039
It's three hours long, so I'm not done yet. I

542
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:43,160
was like, wow. But they talk about like what feminism

543
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:47,359
means to them and how they came to become feminist,

544
00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:50,920
what they thought it meant before, and blah blah blah.

545
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:54,799
And one thing there they keep joking about is because

546
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,839
you know, when these clips of the women uprising basically

547
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:05,839
in locentros and we're going viral years ago, the man

548
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,880
would comment, So I said, no, some foremast know, some

549
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,480
foremast that you know, to protest, right something, that's not

550
00:33:13,559 --> 00:33:15,640
the way to protest. So then they keep joking to

551
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,759
each other. I said, no form But yeah, I mean,

552
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,119
this is the only episode I've listened to so far,

553
00:33:22,119 --> 00:33:25,200
and I'm not done yet. But they're funny. And if

554
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,119
you want to like practice, I guess you're Spanish and

555
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:35,240
and hear more informal Spanish, I guess because I want

556
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,920
to be able to talk like that. That's my goal.

557
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Whoever will but yeah, I know it's good. Anyway, I'll

558
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,519
have to I'll have to check it out. Send me

559
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,440
the link. I will. I mean, I can find it.

560
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:51,440
But yeah, that sounds good. But yeah, everyone should check

561
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,000
out that movie. And okay, this is actual the actual

562
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,119
end of the episode, unless you have anything else said.

563
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:02,359
I started watching Conclave. Oh no, how is that? I've

564
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:05,039
been meaning to watch that. I'm enjoying it. I love

565
00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:09,760
the drama, the petty drama. Okay, the podcast I edit,

566
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:15,280
Vulgar History. They have a Patreon only episodes they do

567
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,440
where they review movies and Conclave was one of them,

568
00:34:17,519 --> 00:34:20,079
and I was like, this sounds very fun. I am

569
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,119
liking it so fun. And you know, as a cultural Catholic,

570
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,559
former normal Catholic, I love the scenery. I love the

571
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:32,519
imagery of the outfits. Look like we said we love

572
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:36,119
an old church too. Yeah, and yeah, the outfits, the

573
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,320
sacred yes right, the little robes and shit I love.

574
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,880
I love a matches to cheese in it too, is

575
00:34:43,039 --> 00:34:47,320
love okay, Okay. The guy who plays Boltemore Ralph something.

576
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,599
I hear there's a breakthrough Mexican actor too. I only

577
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,760
know his name in the movie is like Cardinal beneath this.

578
00:34:56,039 --> 00:34:58,039
I don't know his name. This is for his first role.

579
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:01,239
And okay, so we're only gonna like maybe halfway because

580
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,159
it's like almost three hours long or two hours on.

581
00:35:03,159 --> 00:35:07,400
I remember, right, and Paul is guessing that he's going

582
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,760
to be the bad guy, but I don't think so.

583
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:11,199
I don't think so. No, I know, I think I

584
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,559
know who it is. You're probably right. I think I'm right.

585
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:14,800
I don't think he's where do you think it is?

586
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,320
I'll cut his parent, actually I will. It's very obvious,

587
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:25,199
So I think it's not him. It's uh, the Cardinal Tremblay.

588
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,119
I always plays the villain by the way. You recognize

589
00:35:29,159 --> 00:35:31,559
that when you see him. Yeah, I have to watch this. Yeah,

590
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:33,480
I think you're like it. And I kept talking throughout

591
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:38,559
the whole thing about scottle Metal too, and then I

592
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,039
was like telling him about how in the older times

593
00:35:43,639 --> 00:35:46,199
the mats used to be held with the priest behind

594
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,119
facing not facing the crowd. His back was to the crowd,

595
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:55,360
and it was in Latin. But through this movement liberation,

596
00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:59,800
you fucking He's like, I know, I'm not surprised at

597
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,280
all that you would be saying all this through conflict.

598
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,199
And also he hates movies, so I probably should be

599
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,400
pausing it, but I couldn't like because they bring that

600
00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:13,840
up in the in the movie, because there's two fascist

601
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,079
Ish priests cardinals whatever they are, that are more right wing,

602
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,840
more conservative, and they want to go back to the Latin,

603
00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,440
you know, and it has a name lit I don't

604
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,920
remember the name, you know, the lad Masks. And then

605
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,800
there's like more left wing like standing Tucci and beneath this,

606
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,559
who are not about that. There are oscar oscttrol metal codes.

607
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,199
Yes they are. Oh my god, oh my god. Yeah,

608
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:41,840
so I think you like it. Honestly, I'm gonna watch

609
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,920
it in pieces. But okay, okay, I guess I guess

610
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,559
we're done now, okay, okay, we could be done. Then

611
00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:49,920
Carmen is visiting me in a couple of days. I'm

612
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,000
hoping to feel better. But then I get medic go

613
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,239
for first, Yeah, I better not get you sick. But

614
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,199
also then we can go around Portland trying food and

615
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:05,000
we can have some vlog, a vlog for a patroon. Yes, yes, yeah,

616
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,800
there's like a golf cafe and then like a Latina

617
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:12,199
own spooky cafe, uh and some other cafes that we

618
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,719
want to know. If you're sick, I'm going without you, Okay,

619
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:18,920
I'm not recording anything. Okay, well then there won't be

620
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,639
a vlog. We'll see all right. Yeah, and other than that,

621
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,159
stay spooky. We'll catch every one next time.

622
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