Speaker 1: All in weekend for me was a roller coaster highs lows,
and I am not ashamed to say that in the
in addition to buckets of blood, I did shed a
few tears. And there are people who would say that
that makes me weak. They would say that that makes
me less of a man. But I want you to
look at me. I have a wife and two kids
who love me. I have thousands and millions of people
watching aaw fans who can look to me and.
Speaker 2: Who can respect to me.
Speaker 3: Are you sure about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And if you want to know what kind of man
I am, you can look at me tonight because I I'm
the champion of the fucking world.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So how about we have a holiday, right?
We want to call it, you know, on fourth of
July this year, you know, big anniversary. Sure, and then
all this stuff happens, like actual tons of stuff happens.
Speaker 3: I don't know about tons of stuff. You're gonna have
to clue me in on a few things, because I've
only caught a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: The shamous thing is I don't know the I mean,
I guess we can start it off, but yeah, Shamus
is no longer with WWE.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big idea. That's a pretty I think.
Speaker 3: I think that's huge, and it's it's really fucked up
because I don't know if so. I mean, the Internet's
gonna internet, right, And the first thing that everything boils
down to is Shamus is apparently gearing up to go
to a.
Speaker 2: W which, if you ask Brian Alvarez, though that's a
terrible idea, or not not necessarily says it's a terrible idea,
but he's like, well, I don't know why they do that.
I'm like, I don't know, man, because maybe they're in
current contract negotiations with Jungle Boy.
Speaker 3: Well not even just that, but you know, AW does
have a storied history of liking liking themselves to take
over wrestlers that are damn you or ready to die
in the ring. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing to me with the whole you
know Shamus, well, I mean WW or you know, if
AW wants one of these old guys or whatever the fuck,
I'm like, well, first of all, Seamus has done better
work in the past two years than he did in
the prior twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he's you could.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: The difference though, is too, is at some point it
felt like he stopped giving a shit and started caring
about what he did for him. Like I don't know,
I mean I guess that that happens to a lot
of people do in wrestling, Like look at Randy Orton,
look at drumcndyre. Like there's a point where these guys
just stop towing the company line. I mean, I don't
even know if that's what it is. And maybe even
see him punk too, and we'll obviously talk about him
a lot later, but like there's just this point where
it seems like they're just you know what, I'm just
gonna have some fun. Brock Lesner too, Like I don't know,
it's it's like this self realization that whatever the company
wants doesn't fucking matter. Let me just go out there
and have fun. Let me go out there and just
enjoy these matches and have fun with my friends. And
it seems like those end up being the best story,
those end up being the best matches of all.
Speaker 2: You know, well, it's because they're comfortable too. I mean,
I think that's a big part of it. You got
to remember as well. It's like, once the pressure is
off for a lot of people. That's when the real
performance begins, you know, like when you're not going out
there and you're like, oh my god, this is the
most important, serious thing, blah blah blah, when it's really
just hey man, you and Cesara, we're gonna go out
there and just be like a bruiser tag team. He's like,
all right, yeah, sounds fun. I give that a try,
you know. Or Hey, you and Drew are going to
go out there and just smack each other around in
front of nobody. All right, that sounds kind of funny.
Let's go do that. See how that works out. And honestly,
like I said, it was better than anything he was
doing well. He was technically on top, right, So this
idea of like, I don't know, he's old and there's
nothing you can do with him. He's moving around better
in many respects than like fucking Okada or any of
the Japanese guys that I've seen. In the older Japanese guys,
I should say, in aw that can't fucking do anything.
So what's problem with having Seamus coming and you know,
I don't know wrestles there even for a year. It's
just weird.
Speaker 3: Well, it was even funny too. I was reading some
of this stuff from the agent, like they were throwing
that up in the news stories too. Apparently Seamus's agent
is not very high on aw either.
Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean I understand that I could totally
see why someone wouldn't be into that. But this is
also I think to some extent, if he just decided
that he was done too, I get it. And it's
the wrestling world, so nobody believes anybody's actually done when
they say they are right. But you know, he is
rounding fifty and you know, like all the reasons people
if he said, well, he's got these mounting injuries and
all this other shit, when is that ever stopped pro wrest.
Speaker 3: Let's back this up right, and you know what, and
I know that we're getting into the point of where
shame is going to wrestle. How about why the fuck
did WWE just let him go?
Speaker 2: I don't get that.
Speaker 3: Why did they not Why did they not at least
set up a gun thor match or something, you know
what I mean, like, hey, it's time you face countor
has shit? Is it that time already?
Speaker 2: Like you know, I just I a as somebody who
spent a decade as an avid, shamous hater. Why has
he gotten good? And now we're pretending that he's not.
Speaker 3: That's so fucking we're not even saying that. But even
having okay, so even having a talent a commodity for
WWE for as long as they've had they've had him.
I mean, he is quintessentially a WWE guy through and through,
and just to just to let him go like that,
don't I almost get shades of what they did with
Our Truth. They just fucking yeah, throw our Truth on
the bus too, And he's like, wait, what you know?
Speaker 2: Like that, Seamus is still even technically and the U
and the Eyes of k Fabe had more of a
career than Our Truth even had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, no, you're right because Our Truth, for the
most part, has always been a silly part of WWE.
Seamus has been a threat. Seamus has held the titles.
Seamus has some actual way to throw around. He's had
some amazing feuds over the year. It's not that our
Truth hasn't, but Our Truth has always been kind of
a you bet on our truth to have fun, you
know what I mean? Seamus, it was an actual contender,
and for a guy that was, and I know aw
fans loved the idea, but you know, it's a guy
who was, once upon a time at least a cornerstone
of WWE. I'm really surprised. I'm really surprised, and especially
when you take into account doesn't Seamus supposedly have a
really close relationship with Triple H two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I assume that this, I assume this emits
all of those relationships and the idea of tenure and
all this, all of the things that we could discuss,
you know, yeah, and goes right back to I'm sure
somebody walked up to him and said, we're going to
give you half the money. Is that okay? And he said, no,
you can suck my balls. You can suck my dick
from the back, dude, like, I'll see you later, which,
you know what as somebody that once again spent a
long time talking about WWE like it was a regular
ass business and a company where why would you hold
on to these guys and girls who pay them?
Speaker 3: Honestly, he's the wrong then. I hate to say this,
I would actually side against them. Explain why he's been
injured now for how long he's been off of te
for how long he ain't getting younger. If they're going
to pay you half your contract is still set it home?
Uh sure, you know what I mean. Like, it's not
like you're talking about somebody out that's out there every
fucking week cutting it up like he used to. I mean,
Seamus has got to see the writing on the wall
a bit too. And I'm not even saying like, oh,
Seamess is feeling old. And I mean it wasn't that
long ago that he was talking about, ah at the
end of my career. Retirement is something I think about.
You know, I don't know, man, if they're going to
offer you half your paycheck just to sit at home
a little while longer, Like, is that really the smart
move to all far?
Speaker 2: You know, there's also the it's there is a moral
to it on some level. And yeah, I was always
somebody that when it was just a business and Vince
McMahon was promoting it and we were treating it in
that way or perceiving it that way, where yeah, if
you're paying somebody seven hundred thousand dollars a year to
sit at home or more, it's like, well fuck them.
But now if we're in the world of private equity
wrestling gear where they're giving you each other forty million
dollar bonuses for putting on the shittiest wrestling shows you've
ever seen, and then they're looking at you, guys. He's
got to be watching that from the sidelines along with
so many other wrestlers going ooh, this this new WWE
is the shits. I don't know why, so okay, and
the reason why, I'll say that shame has made a mistake.
If this is the case, If the case is right,
and they didn't just flat out cut him, which I
think is dumb as shit, but if they gave him,
if they gave him the bullet and the Russian roulette
gun right and they said, ah, half the money, you
get to stay, and he decided against it. If this
is the scenario, I think at some point you have
to look at what WWE has become. Just take the money,
Like does Seamus think at this point that he's going
to have a better career worth more money elsewhere? There's
also a level to it that And you know me,
I love Spikee. I love it. I love Spikee. When
I see people being spiteful when somebody's fucked with them,
I'm like cool, I get it. I completely understand that feeling.
And someone would say, well, you know, you were just
talking about Seamous not being particularly good for a decade
and they paid him all that time and pushed him,
like well, none of that is his fucking fault. That's
what they did with him. But now you've gotten to
this point where oh, well we just signed this guy
a year ago and oh yeah, we're gonna give you
all this money, and the person goes, oh, all right,
and then six months later they're actually like, oh, oh,
by the way, fuck you. It's like, okay, well, then
don't sign people to these contracts, but don't weasele them
into the deal. And then, like I said, a year
later or a half a year later, be like, well,
actually it's like fuck fuck you. How about that. That's
like I said, like, I get the Spikee level of it.
Sure take the money, free money. I don't think Seamus
is hurting in any capacity.
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm just fine, dude, Like I Financially, That's
what I'm saying. It is like he's got to be
okay financially, right. That's why it's so weird when you
when you're in a position to continue in a comfortable
place that you would go against something unless unless you
believe that you have more value elsewhere. And if that's
the case, Joe, I got to look at Shamus and go,
what are you going to do to reinvent yourself in
aw or or what was the other ones already said? Yeah,
he was gonna go to g one.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, maybe ten years ago, and then
he wouldn't even have been good ten years ago, right, right,
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like he's in he's in such a place that
his fandom revolves around w W. The fact that WWE
didn't even utilize that he was going to leave, or
maybe they couldn't. Maybe he really is just still out
for the bricks right now, And again that makes it
all the more strange. It's like that, why wouldn't you
just take the money, sit at home for another six months,
do your fucking rehab, get better, and then leave WW
and go somewhere else.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I think it is? Dude? And
I could be right, but I also could be wrong.
Because the economy is one well, there's always somewhere in
the middle half.
Speaker 3: Right after the black guy could be white shit.
Speaker 2: God, I could be Drake. I don't know, I could
be somewhere in the middle. Uh. But for some reason
he's allowed to say in the end word. I don't know.
It's weird, but I'm saying to myself, look at this
going you know what two years ago, back when you know,
we actually seemingly had a little bit more of a
money to spend as a fucking country. I would say, hey,
get out of the contract if you're shamous, because you
can go and do all these different signings and go
to different comic cons and all the other shit. Yeah,
he might have realized he could make more money do it.
Somebody probably looked at him and said, what are you
out of your fucking mind. You can have your own
schedule and you don't got to deal with these shitheads
half these people. You can get half your money under
the table anyways, Go do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're not wrong. I could see doing a
lot of appearances. His agent seems pretty as good way
with you get him out there. Yeah, I mean that's
not such a crazy idea either. Just doing a couple
of comic cons. You've made your your year's salary with
WWE without any of the headache on your own time,
on your own schedule, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, say, say Seamus even decides to show up for
what would be considered a pittance to like Mercedes Monettember.
Say he says, I'm going to show up for fifteen
grand or ten grand to go do a signing. If
he walks out on a weekend's work sitting behind the
tape work fingercowt work, signing shit, sitting behind a folding
cable for what would equate to eight hours, and he
makes ten, fifteen, twenty grand, Yeah, but that might be
all he needs.
Speaker 3: Think about all that panini and tops money he's going
to be out th Think about his share of the
autographs on the ring mat. Yeah right.
Speaker 2: And if Pat was to you know, if Pat was here,
he would tell you all those guys are getting fucking
screwed on that. Anyways, you're better off, Yeah, You're better
off signing your own shit and selling your own stuff.
And like that might have been it. Somebody might have
what funny enough it might have been our truth might
have looked at him and said, man, I probably should
have just gone on to the fucking indies and went
and did signings. I would have probably made the same money,
if not more, instead of getting you know, worked into
coming back here. So these fucking old white guys can
tell me I'm not fucking worth anything, you know, Like
he probably is looking at that, going why the fuck
couldn't I do that? Seamus I don't think has ever
been a guy like he's a WWE guy through and through. Well,
he had his time on the indies. He never had
his time as like a star or even an indie
level star with them. Yeah, oh no, no, it's not
like Kevin Owens, who was making fucking good money selling
shirts O'Brien.
Speaker 3: Like, there's a lot of guys that have already established
themselves in a way. Hell even gosh, he'd say it,
but even Seth Rollins had an established fan base of
some level. I don't think Seamus really brought anybody. I
don't remember that. I I remember specifically when he debuted
why does ever Blue?
Speaker 1: Is that.
Speaker 2: Seamus O'Shaughnessy? Yeah, nobody was. Nobody was following Seamus O'Shaughnessy.
But yeah, I mean, like I said, somebody probably got
in his ear or he just put it together. He's
not a dumb guy, so I can make good money
just fucking going out and doing signings and stuff. And
you know, if I got to show up at an
indie show and throw a fucking broke kick or something
referee a main event, if I don't feel like wrestling,
I can go do that, and that's fine and sure
for him. At this point. If we're you know, all
things fair, if all these different people get to pretend
like they're the big superstarh blah blah blah. Seamus at
one point had one of the top most protected finishes
in all of professional wrestling, Like, how fucking funny that
is that brogue kick. Nobody kicked out of that thing
for like half a decade. I really it was, like
it sounds so stupid, but it was like RKO level
John zena finished level way of treating this guy. And
it is weird to imagine they say, hey, let's use
him for one last thing, Like you said, book a
match against Gunther, have him lose the gun there.
Speaker 3: I was just saying that being silly because it seems
like anytime somebody retires now they're gonna go through gun there.
Speaker 2: But but it's not though match, that's that's money. That's
still like I mean they go with all the time.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, at this point, just throwing people
at Gunther really isn't money because you know how it's
gonna end. And then they're gonna put fucking Gunther back
into a box like they're not even treating him the
right way.
Speaker 2: But the Disney adults will be into it. I mean
if they if they were running, if they were running
a show in Ireland, let's say, well, whatever that might en.
Speaker 3: Seamus.
Speaker 2: You have Shamus fucking get retired by Gunther there, or
do one last whatever with him. There's all sorts of
stuff they could have done. And when I when I
see shit like how badly jay Use is falling apart
as a human being, I'm going you could have just
made that Shamus that very easily could have been him,
where you could have looked and went, hey, how about
we send this guy to rehab for a couple of
months because clearly he's disintegrating, and then have Shamus go
fucking wrestle in your middle to middle upper card for
about six months and he would have done fine. But
it's just it's very very odd for them to let
him go, and it is very weird that. Like I'd
said before that this is where I am with this
guy in twenty twenty six, after so many years of
thinking he was the shits. But it's like the Batista thing, right,
you suck all this time and then you get good
and then you peace out. God damn it, that sucks.
I wish you were this day even half this good
that whole time, and now you're done, Thank fucking God.
Speaker 3: I think they should have done something for a retirement
or a last match. I think that's the opportunity really missed, right,
Like the reasons behind it, I mean, ultimately, it really
just matters to Shamus how he's going to roll the dice, right,
Like I think he could have just coasted on his
rehab and taken half a paycheck if that was the case,
because obviously WW was doing that before. Why the funk
wouldn't they be doing It's a Shamus, so they're if
this is their if this is their modus operaanda, it's
it's probably what's going to happen for other veterans too,
Like isn't that what happened with New Day? They kind
of said, ah, you guys are worth half half a
what No, just just half and it's like.
Speaker 2: And then they looked at him and said, all right,
you know, see you later. And New Day. New Day
will soon probably be in a e W wish good
for them. Get their money, you know, and they'll hit
the they'll hit the circuit and they'll sign ship and
they'll make decent money and they'll pad their incomes and it's.
Speaker 3: They'll go hang out edge and and even if Sting
is in the back and hang out with m VP
and Shelton, like there's a bunch of people that they
can you know, buddy up with, like oh hey, guys,
remember us. Yeah, Like that's what aw's quickly become. It's
like it's like the Retirement Wrestling Federation for WWE people.
Speaker 2: Well, this is the this is the problem with when
people get on their horse about going like well Aw's
going to take these middle aged guys and blah blah
blah blah blah. Well it seems like they're not doing
particularly good with the twenty somethings in the early thirties guys.
So if they can take older people with some name
value that can actually work and have them help these people,
maybe look at them and say, hey, listen, and learn.
Speaker 3: Honestly, once the smartest thing that Tony could do. He
can't develop storylines, he can't develop characters, and the talents
that people supposedly love don't have enough ability to do
it themselves. Why not take what WWE has been building
for the last twenty fucking years and try something with them, Like,
at least you can try an emote or evoke emotion
out of the fan base, because they still love these
people no matter what company work for.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just I don't know, Well, miss you
you're a sports guy too, you know what I mean
when I say this. If you can't draft, what do
you gotta do?
Speaker 3: Fucking market man? Just pick them up in an off season?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if your team can't draft, you're gonna
have to overpay a free agency. And that's where a
W is. And they've gotten lucky with some people, some
guys and some girls where they're able to have them
appeal enough to their audience. J Yeah, but that's it.
It's like, yeah, occasionally you might, you might. I don't
want to say strike gold because they're not making you
that kind of money, So yeah, you're striking bronze. I
guess at best, But like, that's that's where a W is.
So if you can't draft, then you got to pay
in free agency.
Speaker 3: A W is doing so bad right now. They've already
thrown all their tickets up for half off. So they
got the All in London for twenty twenty six, and
I guess the new news is that all of their tickets,
since it's been such a slow start, are already fifty
percent off with code summer twenty six. So if you're
going to go to All in London, you can get
that fifty dollars ticket for twenty five dollars at Wembley,
at Wembley at that your twenty five dollars Wembley ticket.
Speaker 2: Well that's to some extent. And I don't know if
the if the British or English or whatever, they treat
this the same way. That's like, oh, I got a
cheat ticket to go in to see Madison Square Garden.
I guess you know you.
Speaker 3: Pay more for the parking. You pay more for parking
than you do for your saints.
Speaker 2: Well, now now they have real public transportation, I remember crappy,
So that's good. Horses Actually, yes, they can just yeah,
it gets a little crowded. The streets get kind of
full of pooh. But you know, so tends to be.
But no, like that's that to me is a you know,
I do it. I was looking at the ticket app
last night on my phone, you know where I just know, Hey,
what's coming around, what's local? Something I might have missed,
something might have fell under the radar. That the singer songwriter,
the guy Noah Khan, who's very big in New England
because he's from Vermont. So it's like he's he's our guy,
he's a whatever you want to call him. He's a
local local. He's fucking three hours away, you know what
I mean. So I'm looking at the tickets and I go,
he's playing at Fenway, And it's four hundred and sixty
bucks to get in to see that guy play as Fenway.
Speaker 3: Why so charity tour?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right, there's no song that I like
that's enough that I pay five hundred dollars hear someone playing.
I love music. I'm a music guy through and through,
but I've never heard a song.
Speaker 3: You sit in Fenway about fifteen or sixteen people, right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, right, yeah, no, shit, right, you're better for
that kind of money. But that's like I see that,
and I go, okay, I know that this is the
secondary market, and I get that's a ton of scalpers.
Of course, you know, I get it, and it's Fenway.
But which, by the way, he does this, I think
annually a fandway now, so it's not like it's once
in a lifetime.
Speaker 3: And that's his take. Why wouldn't you I do it monthly?
Speaker 2: I know, shit, right, you're playing there in the snow
for that guy. I'd be handing out hot chocolate with
those five tickets.
Speaker 3: They're playing baseball and here he is singing on the
other half of the field. Sure what us? Who did it?
I remember that being a thing not that long ago.
I know that they I think they did at Wrigley
where they had a concert happening at the same time
as the game.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's it. That's not was it a somewhat
notable artist too?
Speaker 3: It probably was. It made news. I know, I need
I need Corvin here because Corven would know.
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah he's a Chicago sports guy.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, of course, but.
Speaker 2: Still like four hundred So I'm just going to round
up and say five hundred bucks for a ticket to
go see this dude, And yes he is a big,
big fucking name right now in music once again, especially
in this area. But if you're having to beg people
into a building with twenty five dollars seats, that's not good.
And I and I like that. I think it should
be fifty dollars most twenty five.
Speaker 3: Come on Jesus, Oh yeah, a fucking couple of hot
dogs for the wife and kids cost you more than
your tickets, right, He's.
Speaker 2: Buy one of those fucking sun Cruisers for twenty dollars.
Upon you've spent a thousand bucks to go see a concert.
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. So here's here. So they've had at Wrestle
Ticcks listed aw All in London twenty twenty six at
twenty six nine hundred and fifteen tickets distributed. That was
only up seven hundred and fifty eight tickets from the
previous update from five days. So they only sold seven
hundred and fifty tickets in five days, which works out
to about one hundred and fifty two tickets a day.
Never mind that they have a whole year to sell
that shit. Aw's last trip to Embly in twenty twenty
four finished up with fifty three nine hundred and twenty
two tickets right now twenty twenty six show is sitting
around half of that number with less than two months
left before the before bell time, So they have to
make up at least at least twenty five thousand tickets
at least, and that's just to break even at that point.
You know, that's a bad sign anyways, because you want
to do better every time you go there. The goal
is to do better than you did lasts of time,
not worse. So they probably need about thirty thousand tickets
to feel better about themselves and they're only selling one
hundred and fifty tickets a day.
Speaker 2: Well, this this also reminds me of every time that
you know, the Internet gets on their high horse about
well Ospray or you know, Kenny Omeg even at this point,
like I don't even feel like beaten on Kenny Omega
because he's truly a fucking dead meme at this point,
he's like he's fucking It's like making fun of Huck
to a girl.
Speaker 3: Don't do himselfs any favors, right, Like, I'm not even
talking about the talent, but the company itself doesn't do
itself any favors. When when you look at the fan
base and I would assume that yeah, no uh Co
Coca and saying five hundred for rings had I imagine
all those tickets are gone. I imagine all the diehards,
the fucking Sikkos have got those tickets up, and I
imagine that the first six rows are going to be
full of the most diehard AW fans ever. But the
rest there's no casual showing up to an aw event.
There's nobody just randomly turning on the TV going, fuck,
I forgot AAW all in is this year?
Speaker 2: You know? Oh shit, I better buy my tickets right
to fucking London, Dude.
Speaker 4: You can.
Speaker 3: You can still grab people with a Russell Mania ticket
that way, I don't think you can do that with AAW.
So the fact that they're only getting twenty six thousand people,
they should be happy they got that many right at
this point, because you're fitting. The pond that you're fishing
from gets smaller and smaller as it gets more and
more difficult for people to move the fuck around. Also,
there's a Jimmy Cornett but a wisdom too that you
know came from back in the day when when WWE
is down everybody else suffers too, right right, That's that
is one of the old adages. And it goes back
to I guess once again sports that I was just
mentioned in Fenway. Right back when the Red Sox were
the hottest ticket in town. You couldn't, you know, get
it yourself a nice ticket to go see the Pawtucket
Red Sox. That was all of a sudden it was
expensive to go see them, or not even expensive, but
like even they were like, oh, the farm team.
Speaker 2: Is, you know, selling out tickets. That's what wrestling is too.
When WWE is doing great, then yes, everybody around them
will also start to do better as well. And you
play this game as well where WWE and aw WWE
is operating on such a different level as far as
they can keep doing the same redundant shit, because what
they're doing is like they're barely even promoting like whatever
you want to say about, Oh, well the buildings and
they're gonna do two night events and blah blah blah.
They're getting huge payoffs from these cities and sponsorships and shit,
they're asking for shit from these towns. It's like they're
basically asking them to almost lose money to bring you
in under this like vague hopes that maybe you'll make
money for them. AW doesn't have that, you know, speaking
of not doing the same old redundant shit wrestling soup
Anthony Thomas, he's jone numbers and uh yeah, it's time
for WWE Raw the day after.
Speaker 3: And you know what, WWE another company, you know, not
doing the same old redundant shit.
Speaker 2: Of course not, of course.
Speaker 3: Actually I can't completely shit on Raw. It was another
good raw, Joe. It was another good Raw for a
lot of the wrong reasons, but I enjoyed it. I
had a good time with it. A couple of things
that had happened. Roxy is now become my absolute favorite
after Monday Night, after her interview on Monday Night Raw,
which most people probably didn't see because it was one
of those that happened in between the commercial breaks. And
she really is a little pipsqueak. She really does not
belong in WWE, and I am here for every minute
of it. She is just so out of place in
her group on the shows in life. It is just
amazing to watch her work on Monday Night Raw.
Speaker 2: And now I missed this promo, mish was it her
doing the heel shtick, still trying to be a bad girl.
Speaker 3: Oh I wish I had a fucking cute up. But
so what had happened at this point of the show.
Byron Sason comes out there, and here comes the judgment
day with Liv and Raquel and little Roxy, and Live
Live comes out and immediately does what WWE tells you
not to do, and they say, please don't stare at
the camera, so Live stay there for at least a
good sixty seconds straight for no fucking reason, just glaring
into your soul. Right, it's just making you feel awkward.
At home, You're sitting on the couch next to your
wife and she's just like, why why is she looking
at you like that? I don't fucking know, dear, I
just I just watched the show.
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything to I don't even know this
bitch is.
Speaker 3: She looks like she wants to stab you. Who me, No,
you like, It's just it's really uncomfortable, and Raquel's talking
about it and she gets in there and Byron Sackson
is is kind of like working them up, like, oh,
how could you how could you have lost this match?
Because EO's a bitch and blah, blah blah, and Live
goes off and talking about they're the greatest faction ever
in her long voice, her shrill voice, which is still
hilarious for her. But then Raquel gets on there and
she talks, and she starts flipping, you know, she starts
code switching between angry stable member and let Tina girl
who's just one chocolate beating away from taking back EO's
championship or whatever the fuck it is, and uh so, yeah,
because she didn't get the icy title. And Roxy keeps
like tugging at Raquel to like, let me speak, give me,
give me the microphone. I want to talk, and Raquel's
like petting her like there's like a point where Raquel
like shoos her back and she stops herself, and then
Raquel reaches for the mica gat it was fantastic, and
then she gets the mic and then her tiny little
voice goes, yeah, we're not gonna take this anymore.
Speaker 4: I got a match with it. Just it's the cutest,
most hilarious thing. And the camera did her no favors
because the camera's panning up because Raquel sighs, right, Raquel's
a bigger person Byron's at least a little bit bigger
of a guy.
Speaker 3: Right, Like the camera's up, so all you're seeing from
Roxy is like, I don't know, chest up, Like she's
not even a full person.
Speaker 2: You know, if you if you frame that picture at
a at a fucking TJ Max or wherever seer's photo booth,
they'd fire you because because she's so ded Listen, you
didn't even get the kid in frame. That is not
a kid. That's a twenty five year old.
Speaker 3: Woman, a contender for a championship, Like.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's a big, scary pro wrestler. Can't you
tell you?
Speaker 3: I love it? And you're right, it's it's not I
guess it's technically not a good promo because of that,
but it's it was fine. It's just, you know what,
I'm gonna take entertainment however I want it. I'm gonna
take it however I can get it from this company.
And I thought that was adorable and hilarious and sad
all at the same time. So that was my favorite
moment of the night. You know, Sam's see him punk
getting a title? Huh?
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 3: How about that?
Speaker 2: That's that's a little something that happened on the show, Well,
well she should. She should be a babyface also just
am I I say that every time that she's brought up.
But I think that's really it is. You know, she's miscast, you.
Speaker 3: Know, like this she's she's not even a full cast.
So it's just she's just a.
Speaker 2: She's a wee cast. Well, but that's it. It's like
when they it's like when they picked the wrong person
to be in a movie and then they ship on
the person for it. It's like, well, they also shouldn't
have cast them in this role.
Speaker 3: Is a super reference because I agree.
Speaker 2: Oh see I saw that, which, by the way, like
I saw that girl and I'm like, she's just like
a regular kind of working girl. I don't I don't
get the big issue with it. But then I remember
it's comic book people, and they take it so seriously.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't even know if it's that.
It's just I think the Internet in general, whether they're
comic book fans or not, just like to gripe about
ship too.
Speaker 2: So that too, but also to some extent, and this
to me, like I see this now and go, we
got to stop pretending that any of this shit has
like a modicum of value. Just put some dumb, big
kitty blonde girl in it. Just make the fucking dorks happy,
you know, like what stop even trying to like? And yes,
I do agree. I think it's fucking crazy that now
there is a mass shortage of regular ass people and entertainment.
I don't remember if I was talking to you about
this or somebody else, but I I think it was
somebody else working with where I was talking about Boyce
to Men as a group. And you see the guys
in Boys to Men and they're just like regular looking guys,
just like normal ass, just regular nineties black dudes. But
if you wanted to make Boys to Men today, they
would all have to look like Michael B. Jordan. They
wouldn't be allowed to just be regular guys who are
talented with good singing voices. They'd all have to also
be gek models. There'd be no fucking way they would listen.
We know these guys are really really talented and have
a unique skill and have great songs, but how are
we going to market them if they aren't all male models.
Speaker 3: It's not even just here too, it's internationally. I was
looking at some older Japanese groups like Japanese girl groups
like the Max and they were older sister groups is
what they were called. And they were just normal girls,
right like in the nineties. They were just normal, normal
girls singing together that had good voices. And now you
look at all the like little K pop and jpop bands,
and they all look like they're fucking ten years old.
Speaker 2: It's just they all have to fit and they also
look exactly the same. Yeah too, yeah, well, miss it's funny.
I actually like that term. I'd never heard that before
older sister groups, because that was definitely a thing at
one point, the R and B groups.
Speaker 3: And shit like that, Pepper TLC. They were older sister groups.
They weren't trying to appeal to the children of tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And by the way, they obviously most of the time coincidentally,
were also super attractive too, But they weren't generically all
the same, same haircut, same fucking you know, like you
looked at it and even it's sad because now you
look and you go, well, the Spice girls were creatives.
Speaker 3: They compared to didn't look like they belonged in a cult.
The fuck.
Speaker 2: We all sing and the same exact tone, we all wear,
the same outfits.
Speaker 3: That's that's your Disney adults. It's all your Mickey Mouse
Club people. They all wear the same shit, say the
same thing.
Speaker 2: Fantastic, It's it is fucking horrendous. But I guess yes,
Roxy Roxann's miscast. She should be a cute, cute babyface
wrestler trying her best, fighting from underneath. They turned bird Girl,
which is hilarious.
Speaker 3: About Sam Punk.
Speaker 2: Really well, we'll get to Punk. I mean, I feel like.
Speaker 3: We should talk about that first. I mean, considering that's
gonna I mean, that is the that is the meat
of the Everything else's secondary. Everything else that happened on
the show is secondary. Seth's awful promo is fucking secondary. Yeah,
we'll get to the right, the fucking uh yeah yeah,
the bird Girl, Bailey, the Bailey promo.
Speaker 2: Secondary, Maxine turning heel.
Speaker 3: Actually I enjoyed that. That was another favorite moment of
the nice. I really enjoyed that and the sadness coming
from Otis into Zawa's eyes. Did she really get in
the car, dude? She got in the car. Yeah, and
then they were joking about how dark the windows were.
Wonder what she's doing back there? Winking Chinese finger traps.
Speaker 2: Do you think that do you think that it would
be funny? It's next week? Doza was just like, but
you are married? Because yeah, because I saw that almost
instantly online. It was like, okay, they did the thing
of Maxine and she's given smoothes to the guy and
it's like the boy for excuse me, the husband is
on n XT.
Speaker 3: You know what I love about this? You know what
I love about this? Doesn't that just really solidify her
being a better heel? She is cheating on her husband
publicly on television. She's getting into the back of a
dark windowed suv on television and gives no Fox.
Speaker 2: And Pauman's like, good good, I like that.
Speaker 3: Vaccine comes in into the house. Oh hey, honey, how
have you been? You know, wipes your fucking shin Ah,
just another day at the office. Don't watch raw, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Don't watch By the way, what's that guy's name? And
uh Lucky the husband's oh yeah, or that would be
ironic at this point, Uh coucky is that? Yeah? What's
what's the guy's name? Like they just are they going
to have him just on the show up on n
x T Anthony Luke, Okay, horrible now man a man
with two first names. He's in trouble.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's Anthony.
Speaker 2: Look, uh, Anthony, look, we're putting your fucking wife into
weird storylines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vince isn't even there. They don't have an excuse anymore.
There's no Vince there to fucking blame this ship out.
Speaker 2: Vince vinc is just watching in his fucking high rise Klondos,
swirling a fucking drink in his hand. Yes, yeah, yeah,
there's there's no By the way, there is obviously no
single women on the roster either. Digests that you couldn't
have just done that, which still I get it because
I know people brought up everything with Dom and Live
and all that other shit too, and it's like, well,
it does go back to the whole original point of
Dom being the faux sexy guy that gets all the girls.
Where it's that the uh, the obvious sort of wink wink,
nudge nudge here is that the girls are using Dom.
RHEO was using Dom, Live uses Dom.
Speaker 3: That's kind of it fits so Austin Austin theory being
this level of a scumbag feels comfortable, And I think
Logan Paul being a part of it makes Austin theory
more comfortable. Austin theory without Logan Paul does not feel comfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not good. He needs he does need.
Speaker 3: He needs a dude bro, He needs a guy with
a fucking Pikachu card around his neck like he he
needs that scumbag vibe. And yeah, Logan Paul adds that
kind of credibility to Austin theory. And it's not that,
you know, unbelievable that a girl like Maxine, who has
been good most of her time now wants to be
bad now. She wants to be a scumbag. She wants
to cheat her on her husband and blow other men
like sure, I'm sure every guy.
Speaker 2: Never happens in real life.
Speaker 3: No, that's why she's a heel. Why she's a heel.
Speaker 2: Well, there's also, like I said, you know, with Roxy,
we cast these people and they act as though there's
no options, you know, like like they had nobody else.
It's like, well, I guess we'll just move Maxine into
this role. And it's like Maxine is only remotely pliable
as a babyface because she's just kind of like.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: Well, they did fuck that.
Speaker 3: I mean me and you both said they fucking packaged
her so well as a babyface to come out of
her little valet role and step into the ring. And
then that weird ship they did with Natty was a
huge road bump. It was a fucking car accident, Natty.
Speaker 2: And then the over the weird overpush where they just
they overplayed the which apparently that's what it's going to be,
is these women's secondary titles are going to be basically
I don't want to say it's like winning Best New
Artists that the Grammys, but it's starting to feel that way,
you know, like where they're sitting there like, oh, yeah,
look you would you you get the titler immediately, and
it's like, uh, I don't know if I should be
doing that. Boss.
Speaker 3: They got to play two songs on Jimmy Kimmel. Oh
that's uh, that's nice.
Speaker 2: Don't worry, Narls Barkley. I'm sure you'll have a long career.
But this is where we are with the people on
the show, with specifically with the women on the show,
they just kind of fucking I don't know, we just
spin around and pin the tail on the donkey where
they're like, you're a yell and It's like, I don't
make any fucking sense.
Speaker 3: Because they can't really develop heels with any kind of
personality outside of like people like Charlotte, outside of people
that have been in the company for a minute. And
so all the new kids on the block here, they
just they don't They don't want to be that, they
don't want to ingratiate themselves to the lower half of
the audience. I think Maxine, really though, has has a
real opportunity, right like Live, I think Lives taking a
backseat to her own program. I think Live was better
a year ago than she is today. Like, don't get
me wrong, I think the crazy eyes with the John
Cena thing is still a fucking classic moment, right like.
I think there's absolutely levels of Live where she has
developed way beyond her fucking punk rock days. I think
she's doing so much better now, but she even feels
like a stale version of herself and Maxine, I mean,
if her hot new thing is cheating on her husband publicly, fuck,
I mean, I'm here to watch it.
Speaker 2: It's so weird because once again that now the kid's
getting featured on n XT. When we were talking about
that shitty Mason Rook match. Yes, the whole thing with
Booker t picking up the phone that was him answering
the phone of Maxine's husband. That's fucking weird. What if
he calls Booker next week and he's like, yo, I
think my wife's cheating him.
Speaker 3: See, I got fun developed storyline. I would tune in
for that. He just starts breaking down publicly to Booker T.
Speaker 2: Man, but I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: I love this girl, but I think I think she's doing.
Speaker 2: Me wrong with us.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: But she starts crying into his hands and Booker Teacher
has a diet coke and just starts walking sideways out
of frame. He's like, oh man, you know you're my boy,
but uh god, you know that it's funny because we're
joking about this.
Speaker 3: But imagine how interesting that would be. Two storylines that
technically would never come to fruition in any way, could
operate independently of each other, but would still make sense
to the fans. And all it takes is somebody just
giving this kid something better dialogue wise, and I'm gonna
be ready to come back next week, Like all right, thanks.
Speaker 2: I do love the idea of debuting, I asked Cock
Mark Merrow. That's a good idea.
Speaker 3: That's the that's one of the knows. Anthony Luke is uh, Anthony, look, Anthony,
look at this guy's smooching my wife. Anthony. Look. I
hate to be the one to break the news to you,
but uh, you know. And speaking of divorce, Joe Jay Whoso.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's just me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sure is.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, so it's it is funny to me.
Speaker 3: It's not funny. It's a little.
Speaker 2: Funny, I know. But like you know, for months now,
dare I say closer a year, we're like, something's fucked
up with Jay obviously, life is uh, life's coming at
him hard and fast, and he's not quite himself, you know.
And now this comes to pass and they're like, well
now he's actually getting divorced. And then Jay who's post
something and he's like, yo shop yelling at my girlfriend.
My what's your name? The fucking Jada Parker? Is that?
Speaker 3: Who was missus Uso? I think? Is what you goes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she's just trying to secure a job for her.
Speaker 3: Name is take everything, Take everything? Fattoo? Yes, no, I
meant the girlfriend.
Speaker 2: But by the way, Jay Uso now is having inverse
opposite Maxine Austin theory thing. But he's got some top
television and everybody knows that he's fucking this girl who's
on television, and it's like, oh my god, she's dude.
She's gonna take him to the fucking cleaners. Huh.
Speaker 3: You don't think that the tribe will get it together
and like have a big powow with with Jay and
take everything fatu and maybe try and smooth things out.
Speaker 2: Like he's gonna move everything under his mama's name. Is
that what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just gonna send us some smoke signals, gather
the family for a cookout.
Speaker 2: You know, Like, how how about just this fact alone,
right that they knew because obviously, you know, the office
was aware of this or whomever in WWE they knew
that he was.
Speaker 3: That's a big ask in twenty twenty six, I don't
think the office is aware of much anymore.
Speaker 2: Just well, well, it fus up if it affects their
money to some degree. Oh true, But like they have
to have known that he's fucking this girl that's down
at NXT, and then they also have to know that
this is not going to go well and end well
for obvious reasons, and he's getting the fucking divorce and
for some reason, WWC's echo go down and they're like, hmmm,
feature more, push him. He's having serious, like life shit,
go on, feature him, feature him, give him. You know,
this is just the time to push him, have him
sell orange juice. I think this is the time. Have
him hot fruit punch right now. Well, he's into this
low in his life presumably, or you know what, maybe
he's fucking happy. Maybe he's stuck in this marriage and uh,
you know, he's like, look, I'm gonna get with this
fucking hot girl or whatever, and he's thinking, I don't know,
maybe Jay's have those midlife crisis. If Jada was smart,
If Jada was smart, she'd grab that microphone, just start
ship talking to wife on a promo. Oh just fucking
go full ham. Yeah, I got your man. What the
fuck are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 3: Like wow, Internet drama, you know, like.
Speaker 2: She was, she was smart. She fucking eat those birth
control pills and then fucking secure a job for life
at w w E.
Speaker 3: I'm pregnant because I don't bag.
Speaker 5: You know, I used to say it was just me
ooze but now there's not an Oozeah, she's eating for oogi.
Speaker 2: Now I gotta win the title. Yo, I got another
baby on the way. Gee. Like he sucks. He fucking
sucks so bad. Like it's just it makes me fucking
laugh because, like I said, you look at all these
people that they have sitting or even like I always
go back to teds. But you know, we obviously saw
what happened on Raw with them losing the bell.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, seem Punk won the title too, by the way,
like I know, yes, yeah, sorry, come on, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: No, no no, but like yeah, so see him Punk
wins the bell?
Speaker 3: No no no, because I was actually serious, like because you
could tell that there was something wrong because they gave
the spotlight to Jimmy on Monday with La Knights, and
then they the little interview with Kathy afterwards, because yeah,
he came in there and he fucking flattened La Night,
which kind of caught everybody off card. And then Kathy
catches up to him, old adhd autism. Kathy catches up
to Jimmy and she's she's absolutely adorable too. I fucking
howled with laughter because La Knight pops up from the
back of the back of the screen and he starts
like coming up the fucking ramp and Kathy is like, oh, gotta.
Speaker 4: Get out of here, like she just she here like
audibly says it too, like oh fuck, gotta go.
Speaker 2: Bye.
Speaker 3: That was hilarious, and her face like this fucking Tom
and Jerry face like shit's coming.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 3: It was. It was great. It was great. There was
a lot of stuff that was entertaining about raw this week.
Yet again that isn't supposed to be entertaining.
Speaker 2: But uh, but by the way, somebody does need to
make this as a flag and bring this to the
next if they go to a live event where it
says I'm the best world entertainment wrestler in the world.
Someone needs. Yeah, a fucking Instagram post of James. That's
that is Seriously, that's why I kicked your lego from
I'm the best world entertainment wrestler in the world.
Speaker 3: What if it makes sense? Hey, you know what, you
have a few shots and read that back. It's all
it doesn't make perfect sense, you know.
Speaker 2: You know what, when people misspeak, that's one thing. But
when you write something down look.
Speaker 3: At it would drunk.
Speaker 2: By the way, we're all guilty of like write in
a long text, you know what, three or four sentences
and you look back and you go, oh, that was
a little redundant. Y're like, oh fuck, I ye are
used so instead of through you know, it was rushing
or whatever.
Speaker 3: When your text messages fail a breathalyzer, Joe, there's a
there's a problem, man, Will you please.
Speaker 2: Step out of the text. When when Instagram's like, please
touch your nose, that's not a good it's a good thing.
I'm the best world entertainment wrestler in the world. Fuck yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: That's why I kicked your leg out of your leg Brett, all.
Speaker 2: Right, beautiful classic. I have to save this. There's no
way around it. I Like. That is so goddamn good.
Speaker 3: Everybody worries about like what kind of wrestler tattoos that
they could get. That's the wrestling tattoo you should get, Like,
not the words of wisdom, just the ones that say
I'm the best world entertainment.
Speaker 2: Wrestler wrestler in the world. Yes, that that is straight up.
Like when they show you the pictures of like somebody
buying boot legs shirts and as you know where it's
like number one juicy hot girl's birthday, Like, wait, what
the fuck was I say, it's are they trying to
translate it? And it got all fucked up? Yeah? No, no.
Speaker 3: L A. Knight is back in the picture, though.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of how nice of him to show up
and just absolutely smack Seth in the face with his dick.
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's Seth Rollins promo was weird. I guess
we can start that off too and talk about Seth
coming out to Chicago and immediately painting himself as a
baby face and start. He starts by running down Roman Reigns,
another big baby face for the for the company, talking
about how he's not here not because he's lazy, but
because they're not paying him enough. You know, which what Yeah, yeah,
he's not getting paid enough to show up here. Uh,
Chicago's like just not big enough for Roman Reigns. And
I'm just like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude,
And then he goes I'm not in the middle of nowhere.
It goes into this weird violin stringing shit where he's like, oh, yeah,
Roman Rains is the man, He's the chosen one. He
was always the chosen one. Motherfucker. You called yourself the
architect for like three fucking years, which was how you
supposedly wear the architect of the shield and everything else,
Like you're the one.
Speaker 2: That kind of visionary, I'm the brilliant genius, like you
are literally calling yourself the Messiah, right, weird that, but
this is it. This is what happens when you put
people on television for fifteen years and they have forty
seven characters because none of them really fully well anyways,
Uh yes, no, it was just hilarious. And then Seth
oh man, he did he did the crowd where I
did love that. That was good his crowd work. He's like, hey,
is that your mom with you?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how old is that kid?
Speaker 2: Four?
Speaker 3: Five, six, seven, eight nine nine nine nine nine?
Speaker 2: Okay? Fuck? Are you guys a couple? Like yeah, you've
heard should say?
Speaker 3: Buddy? So I was taking his airplate?
Speaker 2: Why did they give you that little bag of peanuts?
There's never enough peanuts, Seth, what are you talking about?
Fucking how about a promo of him? This? This is
amazing to me because I just love this. You know,
I hate to be the wife guy in this moment,
but you do know you're married, Well, when you just
hear your something, just your significant other say something that
you just go, ah, that's just I couldn't have said
that any better. It's just that it's like a relief,
you know, where Seth starts to do in his thing
where he's like, he's like, it's all I ever wanted
to do when I was a kid, I have a
dreamed of and the message just goes, why the fuck
do we care what he wanted to do as a kid?
Why do why would we care about his childhood and
his dreams. I'm like, yes, thank you, thank you. Why
is this like all the wrestlers, Like all the wrestlers
do this, They all talk about their childhoods and what
they wanted to be and how they wanted Like, is
this supposed to relate? Are we supposed to resonate with this?
Speaker 3: This is Sasha Banks fucking thing.
Speaker 2: This is that ten years ago.
Speaker 3: I understand that, But somehow people still think that that works,
that if I come out here and break down about
how much this means to me, people like me more.
And sure, in some instances it comes off sincere and
fans are grateful to hear stories like that, but when
everybody's doing it, every ten minutes to try and squeeze
as much sympathy as they can out of the audience.
How much do you expect to get that? Why do
you think Seth did it to start the show off?
Imagine how little focks people would have given if he
did that in the main event.
Speaker 2: No Rick, And that's and by the way, that's like
the selling point supposedly of one of the main events
of SummerSlam. And this is like the weirdest thing about
them continuously doing this was my childhood dreamed thing. And
wrestling is that we're dealing with people that are running
this company, or the people that are letting them write,
or the wrestlers in their own mind. Do we think
we're still living in an empathetic, fucking world that gives
a fuck about people seeing them live their dreams. If anything,
half of the shit that we see every day of
our lives is just somebody enacting something. Remember I mentioned
Spider earlier. It's just like a spite thing, Like it's
just like yeah. And then we were thinking about giving
a free college to paraplegic and they're like, don't do that.
That'll just encourage them to not ever walk like we did.
We live in an empathetic society.
Speaker 3: Is that we're supposed to see that's the problem. Yeh
win win right. When it's under a spotlight. Of course
we're an empathetic society. Of course you're the nicest person.
I donate three times a day. Of course, of course
you do.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to round up at taco bell.
Speaker 3: Right rights the right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where that twenty six cents is going.
Probably it is real, but I don't care. I always
round it up.
Speaker 3: It's give it to It's different, though, when you expect
people to have that kind of resolve in their normal,
everyday life, when they're showing up as as fans, when
they're showing up as the people that are meant to
be entertained. They're not going to pretend that fucking people
with their charitable organizations matters to them. They're gonna want
to be entertained. They're gonna want drama, they're gonna want violence,
they're gonna want fucking titties like That's that's what it is.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 3: It's as crude and as vulgar as that sounds. Look,
you could be the nicest person in the world when
you step outside of the United Center, but when you
get in there, there are a piece of shit like
the rest of us.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, how about just once again, you know you
do with three sixty and just look around and go
what's going on over here? What's popular in this this
side of the world, and you just go none of
this shit is based in like, oh man, I'm so
happy for that person. And nine of five nailed at it.
It's like, this is my childhood dream, sir, you're forty.
You know.
Speaker 3: The only thing that snaps people lot of that is
when they do that with children, when they drag sick
children into the middle of the ring, and then you
feel bad, like I ww's done that a few times
over theres many times actually over the years, but it
always feels icky. You feel icky. You're like, dude, I'm
watching people like google girls, half naked girls and just
beat the shit out of each other with weapons, and
it's like, oh, it's time to feel bad for these
dying children.
Speaker 2: Yay girls girls in hot pants, followed by.
Speaker 3: Here's somebody who might not make it throughout the rest.
Speaker 2: Of the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's just it's awful. It always makes me
feel bad and I hate the fact that WWE uses
that altruism in order to generate sales. But ah, I
don't know, like I understand it. It does work like
there is a financial backbone to that that makes TKO
and w W money. It's just but yeah, no, I'm sorry. Yeah,
getting back to it, speaking of charity, L A. Night
was allowed to come out and get some shots in
on seth Rollins Too, which.
Speaker 2: He called actually and actually say ship that the audience
should be thinking. That was nice of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he was. They gave him like almost an
open mic. He was having a good time, you know,
and then you know, Jimmy, Jimmy had to come out
there and ruin it.
Speaker 2: What did he say? He said, you and Roment are
the two biggest pukes in the company or something like that,
the two biggest vomits. I'm like, thank you, thank you.
I know you're never going to win anything, and I
know they're never going to treat you.
Speaker 3: Speak your mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, just yeah, listen, you quit in this place.
They're never giving you a recommend.
Speaker 3: Is just keeping l. A. Knight because in spite of
him now at this point, like LA Knight's like, dude,
give me, give me half go ahead, renegotiate my contract.
I'll just leave. And they're like, nah, you could stay around.
We like you.
Speaker 2: He's like, fuck you guys, don't like me at all.
Speaker 3: La Knight has a has a lifetime contract with the company,
wants to get the fuck out of Yeah.
Speaker 2: He's just waiting for his moment to do his legitimate
MJF fire making fucking mark promo. Like he's just he's
just waiting for that moment where he can do that
and mean it. Oh no, like I was, I'm watching
it and I'm going he's completely right. First of all,
this segment went twenty five minutes to show you, guys,
not twenty five minutes. This thing went sure, and then
Seth gets by the way, this is what they do
with Roman too. Roman and Seth both have this magical
power and you and Jay, who's shows to a lesser
extent too. Somebody gets to rebut them and then they
get them go from back and they just go yo mama,
and then their music plays and was like, well, I
guess that's over now. I guess we've just decided the
segment is over. Like like you come out, you're like fart, fart,
shit shit fuck and then some guy comes out and goes, no,
what your fart, fart shit shit, fuck sucks. And then
the guy nigs it back and just goes no reverse
and then they hit your fucking music and you just
saunter out like that was a good use of a
half an hour of my life. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: But people realize they can see through that. Most people
realize that Seth Rollins is fucking just as much shit
as Roman is sucks. It's at least the bigger city.
Chicago reacted accordingly to Seth. I think there was the
initial hey, let's all sing along with the rock moments,
and that fucking petered out real fast. I was kind
of happy for Chicago.
Speaker 2: And then well, maybe the fact that he's got his
whole character shit has been like I hate damn bunks
so much. And then they're in fucking Chicago, right and
then he comes out he's like getting out of a
Jake Jim.
Speaker 3: Well no, then he drops the pipe bob like he
was trying to be the Seth Rollins version of CM
punk by turning all the hate towards Roman, going you see,
I'm gonna tell you gets something that you don't know.
Roman doesn't have to be here because because they're not
paying him enough to be here.
Speaker 2: I gotta say I did love the part with that's
going Roman was over pushed and we're like, yeah, dude,
yeah right, no way, holy shit, dude, really fifteen minutes
into or fifteen fifteen minutes too, fifteen years into this thing,
years how when I had turned out that they actually
wanted him more than me.
Speaker 3: All he was missing was a fucking backwards cap and
a fucking turned around seat. That's all he was missing.
Let me rap with you.
Speaker 2: You know, like, ugh, I I cannot with this dude anymore.
I haven't been able to deal with him for a
long time. Ellie and I get being able to get
his legs in on him. And then he said something
during it, and it was so funny because the crowd
doesn't even like gasp or go oh, They just like
clapped in the way that if somebody gives a speech
and they have one of those yeah oh. Was that
it where the crowd clapped in the same way that
if somebody gave like a graduation speech and they were
like to quote the great doctor Martin Lucy King Junior,
and then like at the end everybody just like that
was a good quote. He picked a good quote, like
that was that was the reaction. It wasn't even like,
oh yeah, in your fucking faces. It was quite literally
like wow, good good. I liked that. That was a
good That was a good choice.
Speaker 3: But getting getting past this point, like we already talked
about Ellie knitchwell we'll talk a little bit more about
that too, but we got to a the point of
the show that I really enjoyed. I enjoyed the the
stare down, the back and forth, the political maneuvering between
nick All, this and Pierce and Adam Pierce. It was good.
It was interesting to see authority figures kind of shoving
back and forth at one another, and Adam Pearce is like, yeah,
now I'm running both shows because you're a fuck up,
and Nick All is getting getting up in his face
about it, and I'm like, wow, this is this is
fucking interesting an authority storyline that I'm kind of curious
what the fuck they're going to do to each other
because they're both supposed to quote unquote not step back
in the ring, which that might happen. I think a
lot of people believe that there's going to be a
point where both of these men can step back in
the ring. But even if they don't, Even if they don't,
I'm interested to see where this goes, because both men
have garnered enough favor with the audience for us to
believe that they care about their respective brands. Like, even
if you don't think Nick Alldos is the best SmackDown
of the already figure, and arguably it's always going to
be peanutthead er Vicky as the best for SmackDown, I
still think that he does a good job of making
people believe he does care about SmackDown. I don't feel
like he's a detached authority figure. He's not just a
hanger on. And same thing with Pierce. Pierce is fucking
miles ahead, fantastic raw authority figure. Probably haven't had such
a good authority figure since all Chris Benwah for that
week there. Yeah, it's just I don't know's I like
the back and forth the meat with Adam Pierce.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well, I still think that I think
Pierce is better in this in this role. It was weird,
like the way that they did the same where all
this was like, well, guess what I fixed this problem
for year over here making phone calls. He's like, are
we pretending that Adam Pierce didn't think to call See
Him Punk? Too?
Speaker 3: Well, he was on the phone.
Speaker 2: I have at least two seconds, so yeah, yeah, but
I'm thinking of myself. I'm like, I want to know
who Adam Pearce was calling in Chicago, you know, yeah,
like I want.
Speaker 3: To hey call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, McAfee, can you come down here? Like who's
who else is he calling? They got that to me
was one of the funniest things about They could have
gone with the whole Hey, how about both of them
meet up at the thing and he's like, oh, yeah,
he was, And then they both kind of say, well, yeah, dude,
we both fucking called See Him Punk? Obviously the funck
else are you gonna call? Ghostbusters?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Who else are you calling? I would have loved to
have known, Like if they did that, next week, whomever
from whatever Chicago wrestler or somebody for the area just
shows up and they're just like, so, Pierce, you told
me I had a match, buddy, And he's like, oh, well,
you know, thinks just things change.
Speaker 3: Stick them out there with OBA. And that was another
thing too, I was very happy that Cody did not
did not do anything. That Cody was taken out at
the beginning of the show. I was actually very happy
for that because I was just not excited about Cody
stepping out there with Sammy, and it made more sense,
It made more sense ultimately that Seampunk got in there
with Sammy and won the title. But you know, yeah,
speaking of Oba, uh, well, I mean he's still he's
still talking about murdering people and finding them in hell,
and you know, once I slaughter your children and babies
and you know, like normal normal wrestling promos and cz
W do.
Speaker 2: He's a little too much of of a gentleman for mate,
And I'm not, Yeah, was a little.
Speaker 3: I'm going to eat your children? Why you watch, I'm
going to suck on their bones. What a gentleman? What
an absolute gentleman's.
Speaker 2: But he's dressed so sharp, and he just looks.
Speaker 3: I'm going to murder you and stab your wife in
the throat and watch her blood drip into the ground
and go to hell and then kick you there.
Speaker 2: But does he have to look so does he have
to look so damned so damn dapper? Will he? Oh
that's the problem.
Speaker 3: Well, give him a mask, Just give him a pensa
mask or something.
Speaker 2: Why do you just give him a chainsaw? Said them
come out with a chainsaw. No, no, I mean I
still am not crazy about the And this, to me,
this is what's gone from the years of like like
wrestling yesteryear, you know, where the sniveling, shit asshole manager
just gets to get in the face of the fucking
crazy dominant hell and Hayman tries like, I'm not sitting
there saying, like Hayman was looking at him like cool
you mother, Like Hayman was definitely make it like a
oh please don't kill me Hayman face.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Hayman did have a little swagger and he
and rightfully so like it made sense because you gotta remember,
I mean they even showed it the clip beforehand of
Brock kicking open the dick, you know, and saying, talk shit,
get hit, And so fucking Paul Haman came out there
with that, you know, don't talk shit, don't get hit
kind of vibe, and I'm sure and that's the vibe
that Hayman absued. You know that if Oba beats the
shit out of Hayman, Brock's gonna hurt you. So maybe
you don't want to fucking beat the shit out of Hayman,
But Hayman is also still a coward. So it's like, yeah,
I can exude that energy, but that goes away when
you start talking about murdering and skinning my children in
front of me on live television.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think he should at least I think
Hayman should at least if he's ever put in a
situation where he's face to face, Yeah with a guy
like Oba, he should say you know as well as
I do that if you touch me, this match will
not happen because then you're immediately taking away his agency
as somebody that could. Wood should be beating the fuck
out of this guy because it's wrestling, Like I mean,
at the end of the day, it's still fucking pro wrestling,
where like like I said, it's like, yes, he's sitting
there going like I'm gonna make you bleed your own
blood and you're gonna ship blood and his blood and
bleed blood and coume blood, and I'm the real world
entertainment wrestler in the world, Like that's what he's doing.
Speaker 3: I like, I like Oba, but he is really giving
me Amed Johnson vibes.
Speaker 2: Like they gotta stop? Do they gotta stop?
Speaker 3: He is giving Pearl plunge vibes twenty twenty six style.
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right, he's uh And I'm not saying make him a
mindless fucking drone war machine to the health. But like you,
he's never ever be put in a position where he's
looking at somebody like that and he's just not gonna
grab the guy by the call or do something where
he gets directly in his face and just fucking I'm
gonna you know you, you don't fucking talk to me
that way like, and I get it because people will
then look at you and say, well, this person's a
baby first, and there's a baby face. It's like, yes,
but also part of a baby face is like you
don't let somebody, even as a good guy, you don't
let somebody call your mama bitch to your face, do
you know what I mean? You don't let somebody say
you're a pussy. You don't let somebody say I'm smarter
that like you just stand up for yourself, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean it's you know, you don't let
somebody call your mama bitch to your face. But then
you don't turn around and threaten him by putting a
clock to their head either for that.
Speaker 2: That's true, I'm gonna But then, but then what you do? Yeah,
your mom's a bitch. I am going to eat you. Yes,
I am going to boil you and eat you. Wait,
what the fuck's going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not good at that. He's not good at escalation.
I mean, he's good at extreme escalation, like Tommy Dreamer escalation,
but he's not good at wrestling escalation.
Speaker 2: No, no, And and Hayman's doing the best he can
with what the position they're putting him in, or he's
choosing to put himself in I don't even know anymore.
But there's also this whole part of me too where
I see Hayman doing this shit. And yes, Hayman's maybe
the best. I mean he as far as WWE managers
are concerned, he's almost inarguably the best to do it
in the past thirty years. You know, Yeah, but it
does it does reach this point where it's like you're
he hogs that one position in the whole company as
a guy that can't get physical, can't get hit. I mean,
somebody will say, well I got here six months ago whatever.
It's like, yeah, but you need to be able to
months ago. I know, right, but that's what they'll say
it like that. It's like, well you did get get
the shit kicked out of him and last Easter or something.
You're like, yeah, that's that's what a manager like a
manas you're supposed to be involved in like physical shit
and you get hurt, and that's what it needs to
actually actually be. But yeah, I don't know. I'm just
not I'm not crazy about this with with him and
doing the face off with Opa. And I also do
think it's fucking kind of weird to where okay Oba saying,
oh I have a title mash, I'll get it later,
and then they're like, we can't find anybody to wrestle
him for the title, right, huh, Well, maybe that would
have been the night to not have Oba show up.
And I clearly I'm like I want Oba to do well.
I like him. I'm rooting for the fucking guy.
Speaker 3: Why couldn't you have taken his King of the Ring
opportunity and wrestled and match and lost it that way
instead of just having him throw it away last week.
Even if it was by underhanded tactics or something else,
somebody could have wrestled Oba or Brock could have gotten involved,
or Hayman could have even gotten involved and cost Oba
the match, and somebody else could have taken that King
of the Ring opportunity. Oh I don't know, like like
a Russev, I'm anybody. Well, they they know, they do,
they did. I think they did well by Russev this week.
I enjoyed even the even the promo with him in
fucking uh uh oh Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: Why yeah, they give But dude, he's never gonna They're
not gonna put him.
Speaker 3: That's not the point. The point is that you give
validity to Russev. You give him a little bit of
that now all of a sudden, as a heel, he's
a King of the Ring winner, even though he's not. Like,
it's just and now you know Ethan pages with them too,
and I know that they got that gauntlet next week.
You know, It's just I don't, oh Man, like they
clearly care enough about him to put him and Ethan
Page and matches up against you know, a newly crowned
Mexican gable. You know, it's just it's fine.
Speaker 2: Our new Mexican, our new Mexican American Jed Gable with
the worst AI music you've ever heard in your fucking life.
Speaker 3: Oh it's great again. Another part of the show that's
fan fuckingtastic. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2: It sounds. It sounds quite literally like when you put
when you use like a shitty AI song making program
and you're like, make a song about popsicles. It's like,
popsicles are really good. I like popsicles because they're cold.
They're like, yeah, that's some creative ship. And then they're
playing it.
Speaker 3: That's what it is. It's like interdimensional cable, but with
w WE themes. It's fucking great.
Speaker 2: Yeah how about you know, this just kind of kind
of struck me too, and it's sort of gone back
to you shouldn't have had Oba in the building because
Oba has technically a title match still and yeah, he's calling.
I can't find anybody to feel Oba Femily was just
out there to fifteen minutes ago, right, you could have
just literally watched him Oba Femi be like, here's my
main event, Bang bang boom. That's a fucking hell of
the main event. It almost would have been interesting had
you told the story of Pierce goes and gets Oba
and then fucking you know, all this goes and gets
Punk and all this goes with you know, you have
you have Oba come out and then Punk's music hit
and all this comes out and says, go, go go go,
and then you're like, well, how the fuck did this happen?
And then you tell the story all this went above
his head and said I can get fucking see him
Punk to show up and he's like, will you motherfucker
you messing with my show? Like, and then you have
a three way and you have an excuse for where
then Sammy can fucking get you know, pinned by Punk
and blah blah blah blah blah whatever it might be.
So that might have been kind of a cool way
to go with it, But instead they did the main
event that they had and the match itself was good
because you had two people that actually not a fucking word.
Speaker 3: But what was the main event was the event?
Speaker 2: Again? The main event was I think Maxine dupri.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I remember that match.
Speaker 2: The Punk, Yeah, the Maxine, the max Punk. No, yeah,
you had see him punk for a Sammy the main Yeah, yeah,
you might have heard of him, by the way Punk
for all to talk about seeing Punk being gassed to
the gels. He just looked like he was kind of
like he was in shape like that to me, like
now actually having seen him and like in his gear
and going out there, Yeah, he looked bigger than he
did it before. Sure, but you know he's also standing
next to Sammy, who's so fucking skinny in length buff know, yes, yeah, yeah,
he's just in shape. Like I don't I don't know.
I didn't Like I saw him out there doing his
deal and I was like, yeah, I don't even know.
I don't think he's he's like yoked, He's not walking
out there looking like Brian Cage or nothing.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if that first photo was fucking
tampered ye too, Yeah, because we never got to see
his video. Did anybody see actual video of him out
like no?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean mill mish, How could they ever have
doctored a photo?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Pumped at it himself made
a fake, made a fake. Fucking yeah, he said big
Jack pictures.
Speaker 2: He gave me.
Speaker 3: Fifteen extra pounds of muscle. Thanks. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2: That can you make me look even more jacked? And
then he just fucking it leaks it out of the internet. Yeah. No,
the match itself was what it's what you expected it
to be. It's two people that are very very good
and know exactly what they need to be doing. And
uh yeah, I liked it and I can't anymore though,
And now I'm seeing like a couple of people in
the chat. I actually just got a text from an
old wrestling friend of mine from college where it's showing
a punkin to it. Look, he's like, Hulk Hogan, are
we still really is every personnel that actually gets treated
like a main event? Or is the idea that now
that they're Hulk Hogan, is that just what we're going
to do now to everybody that if you're if you're
actually somebody that's supposed to be perceived as a main talent,
that they just go, oh, he won.
Speaker 3: That's just like hul Cogan, Like that's the real legacy
that Hogan leaves behind Joe. He gets to be a
slanderous insult from fans to wrestlers for the rest of eternity.
I'm serious. I know it's silly, to say, but that's
what a hulk Hogan's legacy is. That's his real legacy
is it. It's basically, here's a guy who doesn't belong
in the position that he's in, and he's getting paid
a lot of money to be worthless, to be to
be a figurehead. So when people call Cempunk hulk Hogan,
that's what they're saying. Cempunk is a talentless hack that
doesn't belong in the position that he is, and he's
making way too much money for the lack of talent
that he has. That's what they're trying to say.
Speaker 2: Which is which is also hilarious. Yeah, yeah, it's it's insane.
But it's like obviously MJF posted a saying being like, oh,
look he's like hull Cogan. It's like, dude, maybe you
need to check your tone with the way that people
talk about how you act in the aw locker room. Right,
you know, Hey, he throws cm Punk's throwing his weight around.
How'd you go ask Britt Baker about throwing your weight around? Dude?
I guess, and you go see how they're doing. Where
is she at? Not that she's not a fucking contula,
but like you did kind of do that. You are
kind of a politicing guy, but no, like it still
makes me laugh though. It's like Punk is like Hull
Hogan like oh really and it's like okay, Punk Cody
just baseline, let's take those two. They have never and
will never draw as much money as Hogan did, right,
just off of who they are, you know, but you
would be lying to yourself and lying to everybody else
if you weren't to say, as a wrestler, who would
you rather have to wrestle for three months and walk
away knowing that you would still be a character You're like,
your whole being as a fucking performer would still actually
maintain who you were, Like you'd still be able to
carry on. Obviously, you'd rather work with like a Punk
or a Cody all things can obviously all money the same,
because somebody would say to you, well, you work with brother,
you'd make more money, and da da da, and it's
like yeah, but then you'd also just be chewed up
and spit out and you'd end up like Kamala, driving
a fucking truck until you die, you know, Like that's
how it was handled. People would come in, they'd get
fed to Hogan. They were there for whatever, three months,
six months and smell you later. Is that the same
thing that's happening with Cody and Punk. No, not at all,
And it's just this very very very fucking lazy I
think too. Fans just oh, he's just like he's just
like a hog and he just comes in and just
takes the fucking belt away from him. Did you see
the promo? I texted it to you, like the actual
regular fucking phone text of the promo with Sammy where
after the fact where they had Sammy and they were fording. Yeah,
he's like, yeah, I got screwed over and blah blah blah.
I'm like, man, anybody that believes that's real, that's anyone
that's still buying into that, I'm like, good for you.
You're really still like a mark for this shit. If
you think that Sammy Zay lost that belt and then
they had just magically a camera appeared and then he's going,
there's just a shoot.
Speaker 3: That's the closest thing to a fucking decent storyline they
could have pulled out of that way, way more interesting
than fucking Rollin's Roman. I would rather see Sammy and
sampunk go at it some more if that's the narrative
that they're gonna push.
Speaker 2: I mean he was.
Speaker 3: I mean, since everybody was shooting on Monday, apparently, why
why didn't fucking Sammy just name drop Tko. TKO told
me to drop this. I mean, you're you're already doing
this off the air, that that scene will never get
fucking pushed on on regular television. I don't think. I
don't think they would. But at that point, if you
have the attention of the camera, you just lost the title.
TKO wanted me to lose the belt to this fucking
piece of shit, and he called him a motherfucker and
everything else. And then at the very end of it,
he like literally lays down and he starts to cry, like, yeah,
that's that's a much better storyline. I've never won the
title all these years, twenty fucking years, and this is
the first time I get a real shot at fucking
the title, and this asshole walks in and takes it
away in twenty four hours. And it wasn't even his decision.
It was TKO's fuck this company, fuck you, Like, I'm sorry.
If Sammy pulled the card out, we would be talking
about Sammy very differently today.
Speaker 2: Well it was also funny because well, Sammy lays down
on the ground, starts up and you hear in the
background the arena and they're playing that shitty fucking eminem song.
Oh yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's I get it. It's
just the ambient noise that's gonne no.
Speaker 3: But that adds to it because it's more of that
corporate bullshit. And when you have somebody trying to have
a real emotional moment and you lay some some craft
macaroni and cheese down in the back, yeah, yeah, that's
that's going to fucking irritate people like this is the
Sami's am that goes to work with a thirty eight.
This is the same He's aim that flies his goddamn
cessna on to the side of a building that's where
you're at. But they'll they'll never do it. They will
never fucking pull the trigger. No pun intended on a
Sammy on this level. Same reason why. And I think
we talked about that before too, and I'm still stuck
in that. I'm I remember watching the uh, the Stephen
Richards take on what RTC work in twenty twenty six,
and as humble as he is, of a guy as
he is. He doesn't think that there's a place for
righteous censor in twenty twenty six. And I'm just paraphrasing
right like, he has multiple reasons by I look at
it and go, are you kidding me? Right to censor
would be the biggest thing since Halkamania in twenty twenty six.
You just have to find a note of thinking from
TKO that would allow these storylines to take place. I
don't even think you have to be creative. I really don't.
I think that the pardon me, I think that the real,
the real gripe of the fan and the wrestlers are
parallel to each other. The shit that fans don't like
about wrestling, I don't think the wrestlers like about wrestling.
I think everybody's in the same pot going it fucking
sucks in here, fix.
Speaker 2: It, fucking it fucking sucks it. So I'm just hoping that,
you know, and also you laid down some serious stuff there,
but I'm hoping that Sammy wouldn't come out, you know,
dressed like Sgt. Slaughter. You know, that could be a
real problem. All right, Relax, Tiffany, Well, I mean you said,
like the way you kind of describe it was almost
like him being a terrorist. I was like, well, let's
not make him b SG slatter.
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. And and look, let's be honest.
We we talked about it. He was the very first
Muslim to ever hold a title. He goes your T
shirts or tight And if wwe had any balls, they
would run that political storyline like they did with Sgt.
Slaughter from back in the day. Why not let let
people be upset.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, let's see how fifty million dollars a
fucking show. I was like, all right, so listen, you
know that guy that you really liked a.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, there's an opportunity there. But again, nobody
has any balls to do this shit. It doesn't because
you know what, it takes less balls to stab somebody
with a fucking tetanus nail through their hand, then it
does somebody recognizing something that's politically controversial, just saying.
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, though still we have no
heels and no babyfaces on the show basically anymore so,
where once again then also put in a position where
even with Sammy, where Sammy's in there being like this
is bullshits. I shouldn't know. There's a like there's a
lot of people that see that. He go, yeah, that
is bullshit. That is ridiculous. You know. So we almost
end up still even when you land in a place
where all right, this story is pretty good, or like
you can make something, but we're constantly splitting and not
even splitting but like halfing and thirting in quarter bring
the audience into these weird positions where it's like who
who wait, but the bad guy almost has too much
of a point. And then yes, like the Internet where
they go, well, see him punk came back and see
him punk one? Are we happy to see see him punk? No,
he's oh cogan, look he's o coged, And it's like, okay, sure,
I bet you guys thought that Sammy Zane was gonna
have a long fucking title run stop stop it was.
It was not a matter of when Sammy was going
to lose the belt or how quickly he was going
to lose the belt. It was honestly a game of
like butt to who that's really where it was. No
one was sitting there going so Sammy's going to carry
this belt into twenty twenty seven. Nobody thought that they
knew he was gonna lose it quick. It was just
is there going to be Cody, Is there gonna be
Punk or is it gonna be Oba Like we knew
it was going so this idea once again of it.
Here comes see him Punk returning and he's just taking
the belt away from the guys. It's like, well, that's
also in wrestling, how we treat people.
Speaker 3: Didn't even have a chance. People didn't even have a chance.
I don't know, man, it's just so so fast, too fast.
Give him a month or two, that's all.
Speaker 2: Well, this is where we end up in the same
place though, where when you give the when you give
the real underdog babyface the title, then you end up
in this position with well we didn't then give them
enough or we didn't give them enough time. I mean
the way that this is a perfect example, the way
KOVI you lost that belt, I have him brought, come
out and just butt fuck him to death. Not great,
not great. But then also at the same time you go, okay, well,
how are you gonna get this fuck? You're gonna get
this fucking belt off? What were you going to do?
Who was going to take it from him, and I
think KOFE had like what three months maybe with the
title Yeah, And it's like, okay, well the Kovie had
the bell for three months and yeah, YadA, And it's like, okay,
could they have gotten three months out of Sammy's ain?
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh easy.
Speaker 2: It's a chicken shit running away from everybody that would
have been that would have been his deal, Sammy's towns
it enough Like this is not like a problem that
I have with Sammy. It's an issue that I have
with can they would they should? Like could they pull
off something interesting with him? And I think that he
could take anything they have and make it worthwhile.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just yeah, yeah, That's one other thing
I wanted to bring up before you're ready to wrap
this up. That John Sena's shirt right so in the middle,
and I know I'm just segueing out of the thing,
but the John Sena's shirt that WWE designed after John
Cena left. Do you see that shirt picking there? It
is the greatest, Like you think back and all the
wild and wacky logos and colors and everything else that
WWE has done over the years for John Cena's merch
that John Cena clearly had a hand and what he
wanted his march to look like. Now that John Cena's
retired an impact font, it just says John Cena on
a black shirt. That's it. Yeah, Like they have absolutely
no creativity that all they did was put John Cena
on a black shirt. That's what.
Speaker 2: He's a bad and you're like he's a bad guy,
and it's like, no, it's actually kind of great. I
like it. I must say this too about Sena his
fucking I'm starting to like Morse John Cena movies than
John Cena matches. Oh, I don't know if that's a problem.
I watched the new movie on Netflix when he did
with Eric Andre, which I'm not even like a big
Eric Andre guy. I didn't watch the whatever it was
at the Eric Yeah, I didn't watch any of that.
I don't really know much about him.
Speaker 3: Like it's not like his co host. You loved his
co host?
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, yeah yeah, I forgot about that, but no,
like I didn't know much about him. But I was like, oh, yeah,
I've I've seen him around. I think he's kind of funny.
And I watched the movie and I was like, this
is another Johns Like there's now probably five or six
John Cena movies that I really enjoyed. Like I sat
down and watched him. I was like, that was fun
and I had a good time watching it. And I
don't know, like I like comedic actor John Cena in
many respects, almost more than I like wrestler John Cena.
At this point, for all the talk of people being like, well,
I may you know seen it was back, or we
wish we had him or blah blah, I'm like, dude,
if he keeps coming out with a movie like this
every four months, for me, I'm plenty happy with that.
I'm I'm enjoying that. It's making me like him more
than I did when he was beating up fucking Wade
Barrett for four fucking years. Like I'm like, this is
this is more my pace, I guess, But yeah, I
don't know. That's that's a good You know what, dude.
The best thing about that shirt man is I don't
know how somebody could even bootleg that. Yeah, that's such
an original.
Speaker 3: I love it though. I love it because you know
what it is. It is the perfect level of creativity
that you except met from TKO In twenty twenty six. Yeah,
I'm serious, Like, if you really want to stick it
to wwe buy those shirts by buy the shirts that
everybody can make a home. You know, I know I
like it.
Speaker 2: Thank you to uh who did that ethel in there?
It's like, yeah, just put that on Pro Wrestling tease.
Yeah I called them methyls Yeah cold cold hi ethel
h Yeah. Well, you know, I guess we could just
say that Monday Night Row wasn't the worst it was.
It was okay, but it gets but it still has
its moments. I guess where you know that's it's funny.
It's just funny, not good, not bad.
Speaker 3: It's not good. No, no, it's not good. But if
you're watching it to laugh at it, the product is great.
The show has been great.
Speaker 2: Just if you if you want to, yeah, if you
if you're looking at it as a parody, right, then
it's then it's pretty. It's pretty. So it's a parody.
And then occasionally some people show up that you find
funny or interesting, and uh, yeah, them's the breaks.
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