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Speaker 1: All in weekend for me was a roller coaster highs lows,

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and I am not ashamed to say that in the

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in addition to buckets of blood, I did shed a

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few tears. And there are people who would say that

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that makes me weak. They would say that that makes

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me less of a man. But I want you to

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look at me. I have a wife and two kids

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who love me. I have thousands and millions of people

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watching aaw fans who can look to me and.

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Speaker 2: Who can respect to me.

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Speaker 3: Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And if you want to know what kind of man

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I am, you can look at me tonight because I I'm

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the champion of the fucking world.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So how about we have a holiday, right?

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We want to call it, you know, on fourth of

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July this year, you know, big anniversary. Sure, and then

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all this stuff happens, like actual tons of stuff happens.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about tons of stuff. You're gonna have

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to clue me in on a few things, because I've

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only caught a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: The shamous thing is I don't know the I mean,

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I guess we can start it off, but yeah, Shamus

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is no longer with WWE.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big idea. That's a pretty I think.

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Speaker 3: I think that's huge, and it's it's really fucked up

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because I don't know if so. I mean, the Internet's

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gonna internet, right, And the first thing that everything boils

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down to is Shamus is apparently gearing up to go

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to a.

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Speaker 2: W which, if you ask Brian Alvarez, though that's a

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terrible idea, or not not necessarily says it's a terrible idea,

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but he's like, well, I don't know why they do that.

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I'm like, I don't know, man, because maybe they're in

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current contract negotiations with Jungle Boy.

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Speaker 3: Well not even just that, but you know, AW does

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have a storied history of liking liking themselves to take

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over wrestlers that are damn you or ready to die

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in the ring. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing to me with the whole you

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know Shamus, well, I mean WW or you know, if

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AW wants one of these old guys or whatever the fuck,

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I'm like, well, first of all, Seamus has done better

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work in the past two years than he did in

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the prior twelve.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he's you could.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: The difference though, is too, is at some point it

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felt like he stopped giving a shit and started caring

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about what he did for him. Like I don't know,

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I mean I guess that that happens to a lot

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of people do in wrestling, Like look at Randy Orton,

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look at drumcndyre. Like there's a point where these guys

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just stop towing the company line. I mean, I don't

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even know if that's what it is. And maybe even

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see him punk too, and we'll obviously talk about him

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a lot later, but like there's just this point where

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it seems like they're just you know what, I'm just

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gonna have some fun. Brock Lesner too, Like I don't know,

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it's it's like this self realization that whatever the company

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wants doesn't fucking matter. Let me just go out there

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and have fun. Let me go out there and just

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enjoy these matches and have fun with my friends. And

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it seems like those end up being the best story,

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those end up being the best matches of all.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, it's because they're comfortable too. I mean,

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I think that's a big part of it. You got

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to remember as well. It's like, once the pressure is

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off for a lot of people. That's when the real

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performance begins, you know, like when you're not going out

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there and you're like, oh my god, this is the

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most important, serious thing, blah blah blah, when it's really

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just hey man, you and Cesara, we're gonna go out

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there and just be like a bruiser tag team. He's like,

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all right, yeah, sounds fun. I give that a try,

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you know. Or Hey, you and Drew are going to

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go out there and just smack each other around in

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front of nobody. All right, that sounds kind of funny.

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Let's go do that. See how that works out. And honestly,

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like I said, it was better than anything he was

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doing well. He was technically on top, right, So this

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idea of like, I don't know, he's old and there's

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nothing you can do with him. He's moving around better

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in many respects than like fucking Okada or any of

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the Japanese guys that I've seen. In the older Japanese guys,

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I should say, in aw that can't fucking do anything.

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So what's problem with having Seamus coming and you know,

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just weird.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was even funny too. I was reading some

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of this stuff from the agent, like they were throwing

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that up in the news stories too. Apparently Seamus's agent

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is not very high on aw either.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, I mean I understand that I could totally

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see why someone wouldn't be into that. But this is

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also I think to some extent, if he just decided

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that he was done too, I get it. And it's

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the wrestling world, so nobody believes anybody's actually done when

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they say they are right. But you know, he is

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rounding fifty and you know, like all the reasons people

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if he said, well, he's got these mounting injuries and

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all this other shit, when is that ever stopped pro wrest.

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Speaker 3: Let's back this up right, and you know what, and

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I know that we're getting into the point of where

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shame is going to wrestle. How about why the fuck

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did WWE just let him go?

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Speaker 2: I don't get that.

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Speaker 3: Why did they not Why did they not at least

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set up a gun thor match or something, you know

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what I mean, like, hey, it's time you face countor

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has shit? Is it that time already?

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I just I a as somebody who

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spent a decade as an avid, shamous hater. Why has

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he gotten good? And now we're pretending that he's not.

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Speaker 3: That's so fucking we're not even saying that. But even

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having okay, so even having a talent a commodity for

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WWE for as long as they've had they've had him.

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I mean, he is quintessentially a WWE guy through and through,

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and just to just to let him go like that,

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don't I almost get shades of what they did with

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Our Truth. They just fucking yeah, throw our Truth on

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the bus too, And he's like, wait, what you know?

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Speaker 2: Like that, Seamus is still even technically and the U

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and the Eyes of k Fabe had more of a

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career than Our Truth even had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, no, you're right because Our Truth, for the

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most part, has always been a silly part of WWE.

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Seamus has been a threat. Seamus has held the titles.

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Seamus has some actual way to throw around. He's had

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some amazing feuds over the year. It's not that our

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Truth hasn't, but Our Truth has always been kind of

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a you bet on our truth to have fun, you

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know what I mean? Seamus, it was an actual contender,

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and for a guy that was, and I know aw

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fans loved the idea, but you know, it's a guy

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who was, once upon a time at least a cornerstone

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of WWE. I'm really surprised. I'm really surprised, and especially

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when you take into account doesn't Seamus supposedly have a

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really close relationship with Triple H two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I assume that this, I assume this emits

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all of those relationships and the idea of tenure and

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all this, all of the things that we could discuss,

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you know, yeah, and goes right back to I'm sure

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somebody walked up to him and said, we're going to

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give you half the money. Is that okay? And he said, no,

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you can suck my balls. You can suck my dick

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from the back, dude, like, I'll see you later, which,

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you know what as somebody that once again spent a

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long time talking about WWE like it was a regular

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ass business and a company where why would you hold

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on to these guys and girls who pay them?

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Speaker 3: Honestly, he's the wrong then. I hate to say this,

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I would actually side against them. Explain why he's been

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injured now for how long he's been off of te

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for how long he ain't getting younger. If they're going

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to pay you half your contract is still set it home?

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Uh sure, you know what I mean. Like, it's not

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like you're talking about somebody out that's out there every

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fucking week cutting it up like he used to. I mean,

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Seamus has got to see the writing on the wall

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a bit too. And I'm not even saying like, oh,

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Seamess is feeling old. And I mean it wasn't that

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long ago that he was talking about, ah at the

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end of my career. Retirement is something I think about.

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You know, I don't know, man, if they're going to

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offer you half your paycheck just to sit at home

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a little while longer, Like, is that really the smart

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move to all far?

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Speaker 2: You know, there's also the it's there is a moral

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to it on some level. And yeah, I was always

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somebody that when it was just a business and Vince

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McMahon was promoting it and we were treating it in

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that way or perceiving it that way, where yeah, if

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you're paying somebody seven hundred thousand dollars a year to

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sit at home or more, it's like, well fuck them.

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But now if we're in the world of private equity

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wrestling gear where they're giving you each other forty million

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dollar bonuses for putting on the shittiest wrestling shows you've

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ever seen, and then they're looking at you, guys. He's

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got to be watching that from the sidelines along with

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so many other wrestlers going ooh, this this new WWE

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is the shits. I don't know why, so okay, and

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the reason why, I'll say that shame has made a mistake.

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and they didn't just flat out cut him, which I

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think is dumb as shit, but if they gave him,

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if they gave him the bullet and the Russian roulette

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gun right and they said, ah, half the money, you

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get to stay, and he decided against it. If this

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is the scenario, I think at some point you have

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to look at what WWE has become. Just take the money,

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Like does Seamus think at this point that he's going

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to have a better career worth more money elsewhere? There's

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also a level to it that And you know me,

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I love Spikee. I love it. I love Spikee. When

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I see people being spiteful when somebody's fucked with them,

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I'm like cool, I get it. I completely understand that feeling.

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And someone would say, well, you know, you were just

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talking about Seamous not being particularly good for a decade

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and they paid him all that time and pushed him,

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like well, none of that is his fucking fault. That's

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what they did with him. But now you've gotten to

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this point where oh, well we just signed this guy

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a year ago and oh yeah, we're gonna give you

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all this money, and the person goes, oh, all right,

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and then six months later they're actually like, oh, oh,

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by the way, fuck you. It's like, okay, well, then

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don't sign people to these contracts, but don't weasele them

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into the deal. And then, like I said, a year

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later or a half a year later, be like, well,

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actually it's like fuck fuck you. How about that. That's

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like I said, like, I get the Spikee level of it.

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Sure take the money, free money. I don't think Seamus

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is hurting in any capacity.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm just fine, dude, Like I Financially, That's

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what I'm saying. It is like he's got to be

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okay financially, right. That's why it's so weird when you

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when you're in a position to continue in a comfortable

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place that you would go against something unless unless you

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believe that you have more value elsewhere. And if that's

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the case, Joe, I got to look at Shamus and go,

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what are you going to do to reinvent yourself in

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aw or or what was the other ones already said? Yeah,

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he was gonna go to g one.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, yeah, maybe ten years ago, and then

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he wouldn't even have been good ten years ago, right, right,

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But that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: It's like he's in he's in such a place that

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his fandom revolves around w W. The fact that WWE

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didn't even utilize that he was going to leave, or

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maybe they couldn't. Maybe he really is just still out

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for the bricks right now, And again that makes it

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all the more strange. It's like that, why wouldn't you

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just take the money, sit at home for another six months,

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do your fucking rehab, get better, and then leave WW

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and go somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I think it is? Dude? And

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I could be right, but I also could be wrong.

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Because the economy is one well, there's always somewhere in

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the middle half.

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Speaker 3: Right after the black guy could be white shit.

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Speaker 2: God, I could be Drake. I don't know, I could

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be somewhere in the middle. Uh. But for some reason

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he's allowed to say in the end word. I don't know.

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It's weird, but I'm saying to myself, look at this

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going you know what two years ago, back when you know,

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we actually seemingly had a little bit more of a

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money to spend as a fucking country. I would say, hey,

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get out of the contract if you're shamous, because you

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can go and do all these different signings and go

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to different comic cons and all the other shit. Yeah,

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he might have realized he could make more money do it.

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Somebody probably looked at him and said, what are you

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out of your fucking mind. You can have your own

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schedule and you don't got to deal with these shitheads

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half these people. You can get half your money under

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the table anyways, Go do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're not wrong. I could see doing a

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lot of appearances. His agent seems pretty as good way

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with you get him out there. Yeah, I mean that's

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not such a crazy idea either. Just doing a couple

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of comic cons. You've made your your year's salary with

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WWE without any of the headache on your own time,

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on your own schedule, you know.

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Speaker 2: Well, say, say Seamus even decides to show up for

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what would be considered a pittance to like Mercedes Monettember.

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Say he says, I'm going to show up for fifteen

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grand or ten grand to go do a signing. If

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he walks out on a weekend's work sitting behind the

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tape work fingercowt work, signing shit, sitting behind a folding

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cable for what would equate to eight hours, and he

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makes ten, fifteen, twenty grand, Yeah, but that might be

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all he needs.

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Speaker 3: Think about all that panini and tops money he's going

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to be out th Think about his share of the

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autographs on the ring mat. Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: And if Pat was to you know, if Pat was here,

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he would tell you all those guys are getting fucking

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screwed on that. Anyways, you're better off, Yeah, You're better

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off signing your own shit and selling your own stuff.

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And like that might have been it. Somebody might have

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what funny enough it might have been our truth might

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have looked at him and said, man, I probably should

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have just gone on to the fucking indies and went

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and did signings. I would have probably made the same money,

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if not more, instead of getting you know, worked into

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coming back here. So these fucking old white guys can

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tell me I'm not fucking worth anything, you know, Like

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he probably is looking at that, going why the fuck

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couldn't I do that? Seamus I don't think has ever

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been a guy like he's a WWE guy through and through. Well,

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he had his time on the indies. He never had

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his time as like a star or even an indie

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level star with them. Yeah, oh no, no, it's not

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like Kevin Owens, who was making fucking good money selling

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shirts O'Brien.

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Speaker 3: Like, there's a lot of guys that have already established

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themselves in a way. Hell even gosh, he'd say it,

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but even Seth Rollins had an established fan base of

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some level. I don't think Seamus really brought anybody. I

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don't remember that. I I remember specifically when he debuted

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why does ever Blue?

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Speaker 1: Is that.

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Speaker 2: Seamus O'Shaughnessy? Yeah, nobody was. Nobody was following Seamus O'Shaughnessy.

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But yeah, I mean, like I said, somebody probably got

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in his ear or he just put it together. He's

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not a dumb guy, so I can make good money

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just fucking going out and doing signings and stuff. And

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you know, if I got to show up at an

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indie show and throw a fucking broke kick or something

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referee a main event, if I don't feel like wrestling,

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I can go do that, and that's fine and sure

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for him. At this point. If we're you know, all

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things fair, if all these different people get to pretend

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like they're the big superstarh blah blah blah. Seamus at

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one point had one of the top most protected finishes

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in all of professional wrestling, Like, how fucking funny that

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is that brogue kick. Nobody kicked out of that thing

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for like half a decade. I really it was, like

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it sounds so stupid, but it was like RKO level

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John zena finished level way of treating this guy. And

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it is weird to imagine they say, hey, let's use

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him for one last thing, Like you said, book a

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match against Gunther, have him lose the gun there.

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Speaker 3: I was just saying that being silly because it seems

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like anytime somebody retires now they're gonna go through gun there.

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Speaker 2: But but it's not though match, that's that's money. That's

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still like I mean they go with all the time.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, at this point, just throwing people

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at Gunther really isn't money because you know how it's

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gonna end. And then they're gonna put fucking Gunther back

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into a box like they're not even treating him the

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right way.

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Speaker 2: But the Disney adults will be into it. I mean

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if they if they were running, if they were running

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a show in Ireland, let's say, well, whatever that might en.

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Speaker 3: Seamus.

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Speaker 2: You have Shamus fucking get retired by Gunther there, or

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do one last whatever with him. There's all sorts of

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stuff they could have done. And when I when I

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see shit like how badly jay Use is falling apart

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as a human being, I'm going you could have just

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made that Shamus that very easily could have been him,

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where you could have looked and went, hey, how about

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we send this guy to rehab for a couple of

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months because clearly he's disintegrating, and then have Shamus go

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fucking wrestle in your middle to middle upper card for

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about six months and he would have done fine. But

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it's just it's very very odd for them to let

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him go, and it is very weird that. Like I'd

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said before that this is where I am with this

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guy in twenty twenty six, after so many years of

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thinking he was the shits. But it's like the Batista thing, right,

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you suck all this time and then you get good

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and then you peace out. God damn it, that sucks.

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I wish you were this day even half this good

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that whole time, and now you're done, Thank fucking God.

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Speaker 3: I think they should have done something for a retirement

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or a last match. I think that's the opportunity really missed, right,

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Like the reasons behind it, I mean, ultimately, it really

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just matters to Shamus how he's going to roll the dice, right,

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Like I think he could have just coasted on his

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rehab and taken half a paycheck if that was the case,

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because obviously WW was doing that before. Why the funk

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wouldn't they be doing It's a Shamus, so they're if

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this is their if this is their modus operaanda, it's

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it's probably what's going to happen for other veterans too,

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Like isn't that what happened with New Day? They kind

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of said, ah, you guys are worth half half a

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what No, just just half and it's like.

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Speaker 2: And then they looked at him and said, all right,

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you know, see you later. And New Day. New Day

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will soon probably be in a e W wish good

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for them. Get their money, you know, and they'll hit

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the they'll hit the circuit and they'll sign ship and

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they'll make decent money and they'll pad their incomes and it's.

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Speaker 3: They'll go hang out edge and and even if Sting

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is in the back and hang out with m VP

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and Shelton, like there's a bunch of people that they

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can you know, buddy up with, like oh hey, guys,

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remember us. Yeah, Like that's what aw's quickly become. It's

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like it's like the Retirement Wrestling Federation for WWE people.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the this is the problem with when

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people get on their horse about going like well Aw's

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going to take these middle aged guys and blah blah

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blah blah blah. Well it seems like they're not doing

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particularly good with the twenty somethings in the early thirties guys.

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So if they can take older people with some name

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value that can actually work and have them help these people,

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maybe look at them and say, hey, listen, and learn.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, once the smartest thing that Tony could do. He

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can't develop storylines, he can't develop characters, and the talents

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that people supposedly love don't have enough ability to do

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it themselves. Why not take what WWE has been building

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for the last twenty fucking years and try something with them, Like,

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at least you can try an emote or evoke emotion

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out of the fan base, because they still love these

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people no matter what company work for.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's just I don't know, Well, miss you

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you're a sports guy too, you know what I mean

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when I say this. If you can't draft, what do

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you gotta do?

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Speaker 3: Fucking market man? Just pick them up in an off season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if your team can't draft, you're gonna

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have to overpay a free agency. And that's where a

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W is. And they've gotten lucky with some people, some

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guys and some girls where they're able to have them

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appeal enough to their audience. J Yeah, but that's it.

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It's like, yeah, occasionally you might, you might. I don't

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want to say strike gold because they're not making you

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that kind of money, So yeah, you're striking bronze. I

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guess at best, But like, that's that's where a W is.

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So if you can't draft, then you got to pay

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in free agency.

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Speaker 3: A W is doing so bad right now. They've already

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thrown all their tickets up for half off. So they

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got the All in London for twenty twenty six, and

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I guess the new news is that all of their tickets,

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since it's been such a slow start, are already fifty

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percent off with code summer twenty six. So if you're

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going to go to All in London, you can get

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that fifty dollars ticket for twenty five dollars at Wembley,

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at Wembley at that your twenty five dollars Wembley ticket.

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Speaker 2: Well that's to some extent. And I don't know if

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the if the British or English or whatever, they treat

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this the same way. That's like, oh, I got a

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cheat ticket to go in to see Madison Square Garden.

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I guess you know you.

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Speaker 3: Pay more for the parking. You pay more for parking

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than you do for your saints.

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Speaker 2: Well, now now they have real public transportation, I remember crappy,

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So that's good. Horses Actually, yes, they can just yeah,

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it gets a little crowded. The streets get kind of

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full of pooh. But you know, so tends to be.

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But no, like that's that to me is a you know,

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I do it. I was looking at the ticket app

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last night on my phone, you know where I just know, Hey,

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what's coming around, what's local? Something I might have missed,

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something might have fell under the radar. That the singer songwriter,

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the guy Noah Khan, who's very big in New England

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because he's from Vermont. So it's like he's he's our guy,

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he's a whatever you want to call him. He's a

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local local. He's fucking three hours away, you know what

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I mean. So I'm looking at the tickets and I go,

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he's playing at Fenway, And it's four hundred and sixty

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bucks to get in to see that guy play as Fenway.

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Speaker 3: Why so charity tour?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, right, there's no song that I like

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that's enough that I pay five hundred dollars hear someone playing.

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I love music. I'm a music guy through and through,

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but I've never heard a song.

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Speaker 3: You sit in Fenway about fifteen or sixteen people, right.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, right, yeah, no, shit, right, you're better for

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that kind of money. But that's like I see that,

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and I go, okay, I know that this is the

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secondary market, and I get that's a ton of scalpers.

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Of course, you know, I get it, and it's Fenway.

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But which, by the way, he does this, I think

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annually a fandway now, so it's not like it's once

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in a lifetime.

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Speaker 3: And that's his take. Why wouldn't you I do it monthly?

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Speaker 2: I know, shit, right, you're playing there in the snow

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for that guy. I'd be handing out hot chocolate with

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those five tickets.

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Speaker 3: They're playing baseball and here he is singing on the

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other half of the field. Sure what us? Who did it?

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I remember that being a thing not that long ago.

470
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:55,039
I know that they I think they did at Wrigley

471
00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:58,279
where they had a concert happening at the same time

472
00:25:58,319 --> 00:25:58,920
as the game.

473
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's it. That's not was it a somewhat

474
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,519
notable artist too?

475
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: It probably was. It made news. I know, I need

476
00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,400
I need Corvin here because Corven would know.

477
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah he's a Chicago sports guy.

478
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 3: Well yeah, of course, but.

479
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,839
Speaker 2: Still like four hundred So I'm just going to round

480
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,039
up and say five hundred bucks for a ticket to

481
00:26:24,079 --> 00:26:26,359
go see this dude, And yes he is a big,

482
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,799
big fucking name right now in music once again, especially

483
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,240
in this area. But if you're having to beg people

484
00:26:34,319 --> 00:26:39,720
into a building with twenty five dollars seats, that's not good.

485
00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:42,279
And I and I like that. I think it should

486
00:26:42,319 --> 00:26:45,880
be fifty dollars most twenty five.

487
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,559
Speaker 3: Come on Jesus, Oh yeah, a fucking couple of hot

488
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:52,839
dogs for the wife and kids cost you more than

489
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,200
your tickets, right, He's.

490
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: Buy one of those fucking sun Cruisers for twenty dollars.

491
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,920
Upon you've spent a thousand bucks to go see a concert.

492
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. So here's here. So they've had at Wrestle

493
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,599
Ticcks listed aw All in London twenty twenty six at

494
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,880
twenty six nine hundred and fifteen tickets distributed. That was

495
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,240
only up seven hundred and fifty eight tickets from the

496
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480
previous update from five days. So they only sold seven

497
00:27:21,559 --> 00:27:25,079
hundred and fifty tickets in five days, which works out

498
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:27,000
to about one hundred and fifty two tickets a day.

499
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,720
Never mind that they have a whole year to sell

500
00:27:28,759 --> 00:27:32,799
that shit. Aw's last trip to Embly in twenty twenty

501
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,519
four finished up with fifty three nine hundred and twenty

502
00:27:35,519 --> 00:27:39,079
two tickets right now twenty twenty six show is sitting

503
00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:41,960
around half of that number with less than two months

504
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:46,200
left before the before bell time, So they have to

505
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:52,279
make up at least at least twenty five thousand tickets

506
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:57,160
at least, and that's just to break even at that point.

507
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,640
You know, that's a bad sign anyways, because you want

508
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,680
to do better every time you go there. The goal

509
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:05,720
is to do better than you did lasts of time,

510
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:10,119
not worse. So they probably need about thirty thousand tickets

511
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,200
to feel better about themselves and they're only selling one

512
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,359
hundred and fifty tickets a day.

513
00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:20,319
Speaker 2: Well, this this also reminds me of every time that

514
00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,240
you know, the Internet gets on their high horse about

515
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,519
well Ospray or you know, Kenny Omeg even at this point,

516
00:28:27,559 --> 00:28:30,319
like I don't even feel like beaten on Kenny Omega

517
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,240
because he's truly a fucking dead meme at this point,

518
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,200
he's like he's fucking It's like making fun of Huck

519
00:28:38,279 --> 00:28:38,920
to a girl.

520
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: Don't do himselfs any favors, right, Like, I'm not even

521
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,839
talking about the talent, but the company itself doesn't do

522
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,680
itself any favors. When when you look at the fan

523
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:52,079
base and I would assume that yeah, no uh Co

524
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:54,519
Coca and saying five hundred for rings had I imagine

525
00:28:54,519 --> 00:28:57,839
all those tickets are gone. I imagine all the diehards,

526
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,559
the fucking Sikkos have got those tickets up, and I

527
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:04,880
imagine that the first six rows are going to be

528
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640
full of the most diehard AW fans ever. But the

529
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,079
rest there's no casual showing up to an aw event.

530
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,359
There's nobody just randomly turning on the TV going, fuck,

531
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,599
I forgot AAW all in is this year?

532
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: You know? Oh shit, I better buy my tickets right

533
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,880
to fucking London, Dude.

534
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 4: You can.

535
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,759
Speaker 3: You can still grab people with a Russell Mania ticket

536
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,920
that way, I don't think you can do that with AAW.

537
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,079
So the fact that they're only getting twenty six thousand people,

538
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,319
they should be happy they got that many right at

539
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,759
this point, because you're fitting. The pond that you're fishing

540
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:48,079
from gets smaller and smaller as it gets more and

541
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,240
more difficult for people to move the fuck around. Also,

542
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:53,920
there's a Jimmy Cornett but a wisdom too that you

543
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,680
know came from back in the day when when WWE

544
00:29:56,759 --> 00:30:01,200
is down everybody else suffers too, right right, That's that

545
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,640
is one of the old adages. And it goes back

546
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,319
to I guess once again sports that I was just

547
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,039
mentioned in Fenway. Right back when the Red Sox were

548
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:13,720
the hottest ticket in town. You couldn't, you know, get

549
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:16,759
it yourself a nice ticket to go see the Pawtucket

550
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Red Sox. That was all of a sudden it was

551
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,240
expensive to go see them, or not even expensive, but

552
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,640
like even they were like, oh, the farm team.

553
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: Is, you know, selling out tickets. That's what wrestling is too.

554
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:35,160
When WWE is doing great, then yes, everybody around them

555
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,720
will also start to do better as well. And you

556
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:43,880
play this game as well where WWE and aw WWE

557
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,400
is operating on such a different level as far as

558
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:54,039
they can keep doing the same redundant shit, because what

559
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,880
they're doing is like they're barely even promoting like whatever

560
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,599
you want to say about, Oh, well the buildings and

561
00:31:00,599 --> 00:31:03,119
they're gonna do two night events and blah blah blah.

562
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:08,039
They're getting huge payoffs from these cities and sponsorships and shit,

563
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:12,240
they're asking for shit from these towns. It's like they're

564
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:16,799
basically asking them to almost lose money to bring you

565
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,039
in under this like vague hopes that maybe you'll make

566
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:25,079
money for them. AW doesn't have that, you know, speaking

567
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:28,759
of not doing the same old redundant shit wrestling soup

568
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,880
Anthony Thomas, he's jone numbers and uh yeah, it's time

569
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,680
for WWE Raw the day after.

570
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:40,559
Speaker 3: And you know what, WWE another company, you know, not

571
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,400
doing the same old redundant shit.

572
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,559
Speaker 2: Of course not, of course.

573
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: Actually I can't completely shit on Raw. It was another

574
00:31:49,079 --> 00:31:52,079
good raw, Joe. It was another good Raw for a

575
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,599
lot of the wrong reasons, but I enjoyed it. I

576
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:58,720
had a good time with it. A couple of things

577
00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:01,759
that had happened. Roxy is now become my absolute favorite

578
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:06,559
after Monday Night, after her interview on Monday Night Raw,

579
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:08,559
which most people probably didn't see because it was one

580
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:12,519
of those that happened in between the commercial breaks. And

581
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,640
she really is a little pipsqueak. She really does not

582
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:19,759
belong in WWE, and I am here for every minute

583
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,599
of it. She is just so out of place in

584
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,640
her group on the shows in life. It is just

585
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,880
amazing to watch her work on Monday Night Raw.

586
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,279
Speaker 2: And now I missed this promo, mish was it her

587
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,519
doing the heel shtick, still trying to be a bad girl.

588
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: Oh I wish I had a fucking cute up. But

589
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480
so what had happened at this point of the show.

590
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,160
Byron Sason comes out there, and here comes the judgment

591
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,559
day with Liv and Raquel and little Roxy, and Live

592
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,920
Live comes out and immediately does what WWE tells you

593
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,559
not to do, and they say, please don't stare at

594
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:01,240
the camera, so Live stay there for at least a

595
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:06,279
good sixty seconds straight for no fucking reason, just glaring

596
00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:09,440
into your soul. Right, it's just making you feel awkward.

597
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,839
At home, You're sitting on the couch next to your

598
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,880
wife and she's just like, why why is she looking

599
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,079
at you like that? I don't fucking know, dear, I

600
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,960
just I just watched the show.

601
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything to I don't even know this

602
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,440
bitch is.

603
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: She looks like she wants to stab you. Who me, No,

604
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,480
you like, It's just it's really uncomfortable, and Raquel's talking

605
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:31,400
about it and she gets in there and Byron Sackson

606
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:34,119
is is kind of like working them up, like, oh,

607
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,519
how could you how could you have lost this match?

608
00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:40,279
Because EO's a bitch and blah, blah blah, and Live

609
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,440
goes off and talking about they're the greatest faction ever

610
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,519
in her long voice, her shrill voice, which is still

611
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,240
hilarious for her. But then Raquel gets on there and

612
00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:56,200
she talks, and she starts flipping, you know, she starts

613
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,880
code switching between angry stable member and let Tina girl

614
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,640
who's just one chocolate beating away from taking back EO's

615
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,559
championship or whatever the fuck it is, and uh so, yeah,

616
00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:12,960
because she didn't get the icy title. And Roxy keeps

617
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,599
like tugging at Raquel to like, let me speak, give me,

618
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:22,039
give me the microphone. I want to talk, and Raquel's

619
00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:24,559
like petting her like there's like a point where Raquel

620
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,639
like shoos her back and she stops herself, and then

621
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:35,320
Raquel reaches for the mica gat it was fantastic, and

622
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,400
then she gets the mic and then her tiny little

623
00:34:38,519 --> 00:34:42,280
voice goes, yeah, we're not gonna take this anymore.

624
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,639
Speaker 4: I got a match with it. Just it's the cutest,

625
00:34:46,559 --> 00:34:51,360
most hilarious thing. And the camera did her no favors

626
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,719
because the camera's panning up because Raquel sighs, right, Raquel's

627
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,559
a bigger person Byron's at least a little bit bigger

628
00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:58,000
of a guy.

629
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: Right, Like the camera's up, so all you're seeing from

630
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:06,360
Roxy is like, I don't know, chest up, Like she's

631
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,639
not even a full person.

632
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: You know, if you if you frame that picture at

633
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,320
a at a fucking TJ Max or wherever seer's photo booth,

634
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,920
they'd fire you because because she's so ded Listen, you

635
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,599
didn't even get the kid in frame. That is not

636
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:24,360
a kid. That's a twenty five year old.

637
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: Woman, a contender for a championship, Like.

638
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, that's a big, scary pro wrestler. Can't you

639
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,119
tell you?

640
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: I love it? And you're right, it's it's not I

641
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,559
guess it's technically not a good promo because of that,

642
00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,360
but it's it was fine. It's just, you know what,

643
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,360
I'm gonna take entertainment however I want it. I'm gonna

644
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,360
take it however I can get it from this company.

645
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,960
And I thought that was adorable and hilarious and sad

646
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,440
all at the same time. So that was my favorite

647
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,719
moment of the night. You know, Sam's see him punk

648
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,079
getting a title? Huh?

649
00:35:57,079 --> 00:35:57,599
Speaker 2: How about that?

650
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,079
Speaker 3: How about that?

651
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,679
Speaker 2: That's that's a little something that happened on the show, Well,

652
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,320
well she should. She should be a babyface also just

653
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,440
am I I say that every time that she's brought up.

654
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,960
But I think that's really it is. You know, she's miscast, you.

655
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: Know, like this she's she's not even a full cast.

656
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,599
So it's just she's just a.

657
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,119
Speaker 2: She's a wee cast. Well, but that's it. It's like

658
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:24,920
when they it's like when they picked the wrong person

659
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,960
to be in a movie and then they ship on

660
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,800
the person for it. It's like, well, they also shouldn't

661
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,199
have cast them in this role.

662
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 3: Is a super reference because I agree.

663
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: Oh see I saw that, which, by the way, like

664
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,719
I saw that girl and I'm like, she's just like

665
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,559
a regular kind of working girl. I don't I don't

666
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,440
get the big issue with it. But then I remember

667
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,039
it's comic book people, and they take it so seriously.

668
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,079
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't even know if it's that.

669
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,239
It's just I think the Internet in general, whether they're

670
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,719
comic book fans or not, just like to gripe about

671
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:00,320
ship too.

672
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: So that too, but also to some extent, and this

673
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,880
to me, like I see this now and go, we

674
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,639
got to stop pretending that any of this shit has

675
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,800
like a modicum of value. Just put some dumb, big

676
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,159
kitty blonde girl in it. Just make the fucking dorks happy,

677
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:22,360
you know, like what stop even trying to like? And yes,

678
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:26,519
I do agree. I think it's fucking crazy that now

679
00:37:26,559 --> 00:37:31,440
there is a mass shortage of regular ass people and entertainment.

680
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:33,960
I don't remember if I was talking to you about

681
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,039
this or somebody else, but I I think it was

682
00:37:37,079 --> 00:37:39,559
somebody else working with where I was talking about Boyce

683
00:37:39,639 --> 00:37:43,519
to Men as a group. And you see the guys

684
00:37:43,559 --> 00:37:47,719
in Boys to Men and they're just like regular looking guys,

685
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:53,360
just like normal ass, just regular nineties black dudes. But

686
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,719
if you wanted to make Boys to Men today, they

687
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,719
would all have to look like Michael B. Jordan. They

688
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,519
wouldn't be allowed to just be regular guys who are

689
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:08,440
talented with good singing voices. They'd all have to also

690
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:13,400
be gek models. There'd be no fucking way they would listen.

691
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,840
We know these guys are really really talented and have

692
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,920
a unique skill and have great songs, but how are

693
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,840
we going to market them if they aren't all male models.

694
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: It's not even just here too, it's internationally. I was

695
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,840
looking at some older Japanese groups like Japanese girl groups

696
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,159
like the Max and they were older sister groups is

697
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:34,719
what they were called. And they were just normal girls,

698
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:38,199
right like in the nineties. They were just normal, normal

699
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,599
girls singing together that had good voices. And now you

700
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,559
look at all the like little K pop and jpop bands,

701
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:46,679
and they all look like they're fucking ten years old.

702
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,559
Speaker 2: It's just they all have to fit and they also

703
00:38:50,559 --> 00:38:54,679
look exactly the same. Yeah too, yeah, well, miss it's funny.

704
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,440
I actually like that term. I'd never heard that before

705
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,920
older sister groups, because that was definitely a thing at

706
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,760
one point, the R and B groups.

707
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,119
Speaker 3: And shit like that, Pepper TLC. They were older sister groups.

708
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:11,480
They weren't trying to appeal to the children of tomorrow.

709
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, they obviously most of the time coincidentally,

710
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:21,760
were also super attractive too, But they weren't generically all

711
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:26,519
the same, same haircut, same fucking you know, like you

712
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,679
looked at it and even it's sad because now you

713
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,400
look and you go, well, the Spice girls were creatives.

714
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,599
Speaker 3: They compared to didn't look like they belonged in a cult.

715
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,639
The fuck.

716
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: We all sing and the same exact tone, we all wear,

717
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:47,960
the same outfits.

718
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,639
Speaker 3: That's that's your Disney adults. It's all your Mickey Mouse

719
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,000
Club people. They all wear the same shit, say the

720
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:53,599
same thing.

721
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:59,079
Speaker 2: Fantastic, It's it is fucking horrendous. But I guess yes,

722
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,639
Roxy Roxann's miscast. She should be a cute, cute babyface

723
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,880
wrestler trying her best, fighting from underneath. They turned bird Girl,

724
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,679
which is hilarious.

725
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,559
Speaker 3: About Sam Punk.

726
00:40:12,679 --> 00:40:15,679
Speaker 2: Really well, we'll get to Punk. I mean, I feel like.

727
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,159
Speaker 3: We should talk about that first. I mean, considering that's

728
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:25,079
gonna I mean, that is the that is the meat

729
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:28,800
of the Everything else's secondary. Everything else that happened on

730
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:34,400
the show is secondary. Seth's awful promo is fucking secondary. Yeah,

731
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:39,000
we'll get to the right, the fucking uh yeah yeah,

732
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:41,599
the bird Girl, Bailey, the Bailey promo.

733
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 2: Secondary, Maxine turning heel.

734
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: Actually I enjoyed that. That was another favorite moment of

735
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,199
the nice. I really enjoyed that and the sadness coming

736
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,639
from Otis into Zawa's eyes. Did she really get in

737
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:58,679
the car, dude? She got in the car. Yeah, and

738
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,280
then they were joking about how dark the windows were.

739
00:41:01,599 --> 00:41:07,079
Wonder what she's doing back there? Winking Chinese finger traps.

740
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: Do you think that do you think that it would

741
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,440
be funny? It's next week? Doza was just like, but

742
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:20,280
you are married? Because yeah, because I saw that almost

743
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:25,440
instantly online. It was like, okay, they did the thing

744
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,880
of Maxine and she's given smoothes to the guy and

745
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,199
it's like the boy for excuse me, the husband is

746
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,000
on n XT.

747
00:41:33,519 --> 00:41:35,159
Speaker 3: You know what I love about this? You know what

748
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:39,199
I love about this? Doesn't that just really solidify her

749
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,159
being a better heel? She is cheating on her husband

750
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,320
publicly on television. She's getting into the back of a

751
00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:54,440
dark windowed suv on television and gives no Fox.

752
00:41:56,639 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: And Pauman's like, good good, I like that.

753
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:03,199
Speaker 3: Vaccine comes in into the house. Oh hey, honey, how

754
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:06,400
have you been? You know, wipes your fucking shin Ah,

755
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:13,159
just another day at the office. Don't watch raw, Yeah.

756
00:42:13,039 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: Don't watch By the way, what's that guy's name? And

757
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:23,840
uh Lucky the husband's oh yeah, or that would be

758
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:30,480
ironic at this point, Uh coucky is that? Yeah? What's

759
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:33,679
what's the guy's name? Like they just are they going

760
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,960
to have him just on the show up on n

761
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:41,119
x T Anthony Luke, Okay, horrible now man a man

762
00:42:41,159 --> 00:42:44,079
with two first names. He's in trouble.

763
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: Maybe that's Anthony.

764
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: Look, uh, Anthony, look, we're putting your fucking wife into

765
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:53,199
weird storylines.

766
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vince isn't even there. They don't have an excuse anymore.

767
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,000
There's no Vince there to fucking blame this ship out.

768
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:11,199
Speaker 2: Vince vinc is just watching in his fucking high rise Klondos,

769
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:18,440
swirling a fucking drink in his hand. Yes, yeah, yeah,

770
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,880
there's there's no By the way, there is obviously no

771
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,760
single women on the roster either. Digests that you couldn't

772
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,360
have just done that, which still I get it because

773
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,719
I know people brought up everything with Dom and Live

774
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,639
and all that other shit too, and it's like, well,

775
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:37,920
it does go back to the whole original point of

776
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:42,079
Dom being the faux sexy guy that gets all the girls.

777
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,679
Where it's that the uh, the obvious sort of wink wink,

778
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,840
nudge nudge here is that the girls are using Dom.

779
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,599
RHEO was using Dom, Live uses Dom.

780
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 3: That's kind of it fits so Austin Austin theory being

781
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:05,159
this level of a scumbag feels comfortable, And I think

782
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,599
Logan Paul being a part of it makes Austin theory

783
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:13,440
more comfortable. Austin theory without Logan Paul does not feel comfortable.

784
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:15,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not good. He needs he does need.

785
00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: He needs a dude bro, He needs a guy with

786
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:22,199
a fucking Pikachu card around his neck like he he

787
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,679
needs that scumbag vibe. And yeah, Logan Paul adds that

788
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,239
kind of credibility to Austin theory. And it's not that,

789
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:35,719
you know, unbelievable that a girl like Maxine, who has

790
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,880
been good most of her time now wants to be

791
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,039
bad now. She wants to be a scumbag. She wants

792
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:42,840
to cheat her on her husband and blow other men

793
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,360
like sure, I'm sure every guy.

794
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:46,559
Speaker 2: Never happens in real life.

795
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: No, that's why she's a heel. Why she's a heel.

796
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: Well, there's also, like I said, you know, with Roxy,

797
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,800
we cast these people and they act as though there's

798
00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:04,679
no options, you know, like like they had nobody else.

799
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,000
It's like, well, I guess we'll just move Maxine into

800
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:11,360
this role. And it's like Maxine is only remotely pliable

801
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,320
as a babyface because she's just kind of like.

802
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: You.

803
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: Well, they did fuck that.

804
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: I mean me and you both said they fucking packaged

805
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,280
her so well as a babyface to come out of

806
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,599
her little valet role and step into the ring. And

807
00:45:27,639 --> 00:45:31,039
then that weird ship they did with Natty was a

808
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,599
huge road bump. It was a fucking car accident, Natty.

809
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: And then the over the weird overpush where they just

810
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:42,159
they overplayed the which apparently that's what it's going to be,

811
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,880
is these women's secondary titles are going to be basically

812
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:49,559
I don't want to say it's like winning Best New

813
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:53,599
Artists that the Grammys, but it's starting to feel that way,

814
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:57,920
you know, like where they're sitting there like, oh, yeah,

815
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,639
look you would you you get the titler immediately, and

816
00:46:00,679 --> 00:46:03,360
it's like, uh, I don't know if I should be

817
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,159
doing that. Boss.

818
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: They got to play two songs on Jimmy Kimmel. Oh

819
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,559
that's uh, that's nice.

820
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: Don't worry, Narls Barkley. I'm sure you'll have a long career.

821
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:20,519
But this is where we are with the people on

822
00:46:20,559 --> 00:46:23,000
the show, with specifically with the women on the show,

823
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:26,440
they just kind of fucking I don't know, we just

824
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,880
spin around and pin the tail on the donkey where

825
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,559
they're like, you're a yell and It's like, I don't

826
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:31,840
make any fucking sense.

827
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: Because they can't really develop heels with any kind of

828
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:40,480
personality outside of like people like Charlotte, outside of people

829
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,639
that have been in the company for a minute. And

830
00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:44,800
so all the new kids on the block here, they

831
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,440
just they don't They don't want to be that, they

832
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,400
don't want to ingratiate themselves to the lower half of

833
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,519
the audience. I think Maxine, really though, has has a

834
00:46:55,559 --> 00:46:58,599
real opportunity, right like Live, I think Lives taking a

835
00:46:58,639 --> 00:47:02,159
backseat to her own program. I think Live was better

836
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:05,000
a year ago than she is today. Like, don't get

837
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,559
me wrong, I think the crazy eyes with the John

838
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:10,039
Cena thing is still a fucking classic moment, right like.

839
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:13,559
I think there's absolutely levels of Live where she has

840
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:16,519
developed way beyond her fucking punk rock days. I think

841
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:20,800
she's doing so much better now, but she even feels

842
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,239
like a stale version of herself and Maxine, I mean,

843
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,280
if her hot new thing is cheating on her husband publicly, fuck,

844
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:32,079
I mean, I'm here to watch it.

845
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: It's so weird because once again that now the kid's

846
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,559
getting featured on n XT. When we were talking about

847
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:41,480
that shitty Mason Rook match. Yes, the whole thing with

848
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,800
Booker t picking up the phone that was him answering

849
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:51,039
the phone of Maxine's husband. That's fucking weird. What if

850
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:53,320
he calls Booker next week and he's like, yo, I

851
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,599
think my wife's cheating him.

852
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:01,679
Speaker 3: See, I got fun developed storyline. I would tune in

853
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,920
for that. He just starts breaking down publicly to Booker T.

854
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,519
Speaker 2: Man, but I don't know what to do.

855
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,079
Speaker 3: I love this girl, but I think I think she's doing.

856
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: Me wrong with us.

857
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

858
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,079
Speaker 2: But she starts crying into his hands and Booker Teacher

859
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,960
has a diet coke and just starts walking sideways out

860
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:29,480
of frame. He's like, oh man, you know you're my boy,

861
00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:33,000
but uh god, you know that it's funny because we're

862
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:33,880
joking about this.

863
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: But imagine how interesting that would be. Two storylines that

864
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,440
technically would never come to fruition in any way, could

865
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,719
operate independently of each other, but would still make sense

866
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,280
to the fans. And all it takes is somebody just

867
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,239
giving this kid something better dialogue wise, and I'm gonna

868
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,440
be ready to come back next week, Like all right, thanks.

869
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,039
Speaker 2: I do love the idea of debuting, I asked Cock

870
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:03,599
Mark Merrow. That's a good idea.

871
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: That's the that's one of the knows. Anthony Luke is uh, Anthony, look, Anthony,

872
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,239
look at this guy's smooching my wife. Anthony. Look. I

873
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:16,800
hate to be the one to break the news to you,

874
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,760
but uh, you know. And speaking of divorce, Joe Jay Whoso.

875
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's just me.

876
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sure is.

877
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: Oh boy, so it's it is funny to me.

878
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,559
Speaker 3: It's not funny. It's a little.

879
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: Funny, I know. But like you know, for months now,

880
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:43,960
dare I say closer a year, we're like, something's fucked

881
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,039
up with Jay obviously, life is uh, life's coming at

882
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:53,320
him hard and fast, and he's not quite himself, you know.

883
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,400
And now this comes to pass and they're like, well

884
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,400
now he's actually getting divorced. And then Jay who's post

885
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,639
something and he's like, yo shop yelling at my girlfriend.

886
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,880
My what's your name? The fucking Jada Parker? Is that?

887
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 3: Who was missus Uso? I think? Is what you goes?

888
00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:13,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she's just trying to secure a job for her.

889
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:19,119
Speaker 3: Name is take everything, Take everything? Fattoo? Yes, no, I

890
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:20,039
meant the girlfriend.

891
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:27,519
Speaker 2: But by the way, Jay Uso now is having inverse

892
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,559
opposite Maxine Austin theory thing. But he's got some top

893
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,280
television and everybody knows that he's fucking this girl who's

894
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:42,639
on television, and it's like, oh my god, she's dude.

895
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,400
She's gonna take him to the fucking cleaners. Huh.

896
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 3: You don't think that the tribe will get it together

897
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,840
and like have a big powow with with Jay and

898
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,599
take everything fatu and maybe try and smooth things out.

899
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: Like he's gonna move everything under his mama's name. Is

900
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:00,880
that what you're saying.

901
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just gonna send us some smoke signals, gather

902
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,599
the family for a cookout.

903
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: You know, Like, how how about just this fact alone,

904
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:16,679
right that they knew because obviously, you know, the office

905
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,039
was aware of this or whomever in WWE they knew

906
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:20,320
that he was.

907
00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: That's a big ask in twenty twenty six, I don't

908
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,960
think the office is aware of much anymore.

909
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: Just well, well, it fus up if it affects their

910
00:51:29,559 --> 00:51:34,440
money to some degree. Oh true, But like they have

911
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:38,800
to have known that he's fucking this girl that's down

912
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,440
at NXT, and then they also have to know that

913
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:45,840
this is not going to go well and end well

914
00:51:46,079 --> 00:51:50,159
for obvious reasons, and he's getting the fucking divorce and

915
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,800
for some reason, WWC's echo go down and they're like, hmmm,

916
00:51:56,079 --> 00:52:02,559
feature more, push him. He's having serious, like life shit,

917
00:52:02,679 --> 00:52:05,599
go on, feature him, feature him, give him. You know,

918
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,719
this is just the time to push him, have him

919
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,480
sell orange juice. I think this is the time. Have

920
00:52:10,599 --> 00:52:14,159
him hot fruit punch right now. Well, he's into this

921
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:18,599
low in his life presumably, or you know what, maybe

922
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:22,880
he's fucking happy. Maybe he's stuck in this marriage and uh,

923
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,159
you know, he's like, look, I'm gonna get with this

924
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,599
fucking hot girl or whatever, and he's thinking, I don't know,

925
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:33,119
maybe Jay's have those midlife crisis. If Jada was smart,

926
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,119
If Jada was smart, she'd grab that microphone, just start

927
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,079
ship talking to wife on a promo. Oh just fucking

928
00:52:41,159 --> 00:52:44,119
go full ham. Yeah, I got your man. What the

929
00:52:44,159 --> 00:52:45,400
fuck are you gonna do about it?

930
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:48,679
Speaker 3: Like wow, Internet drama, you know, like.

931
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: She was, she was smart. She fucking eat those birth

932
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,559
control pills and then fucking secure a job for life

933
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:56,440
at w w E.

934
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm pregnant because I don't bag.

935
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 5: You know, I used to say it was just me

936
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:12,599
ooze but now there's not an Oozeah, she's eating for oogi.

937
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,280
Speaker 2: Now I gotta win the title. Yo, I got another

938
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:20,079
baby on the way. Gee. Like he sucks. He fucking

939
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:23,599
sucks so bad. Like it's just it makes me fucking

940
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,400
laugh because, like I said, you look at all these

941
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,039
people that they have sitting or even like I always

942
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:34,400
go back to teds. But you know, we obviously saw

943
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,800
what happened on Raw with them losing the bell.

944
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,559
Speaker 3: Well yeah, seem Punk won the title too, by the way,

945
00:53:41,039 --> 00:53:43,960
like I know, yes, yeah, sorry, come on, I'm sorry.

946
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 2: No, no no, but like yeah, so see him Punk

947
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:46,800
wins the bell?

948
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 3: No no no, because I was actually serious, like because you

949
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,159
could tell that there was something wrong because they gave

950
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:59,159
the spotlight to Jimmy on Monday with La Knights, and

951
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:02,559
then they the little interview with Kathy afterwards, because yeah,

952
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:04,719
he came in there and he fucking flattened La Night,

953
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:08,800
which kind of caught everybody off card. And then Kathy

954
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:14,440
catches up to him, old adhd autism. Kathy catches up

955
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:19,239
to Jimmy and she's she's absolutely adorable too. I fucking

956
00:54:19,679 --> 00:54:24,000
howled with laughter because La Knight pops up from the

957
00:54:24,039 --> 00:54:27,239
back of the back of the screen and he starts

958
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,840
like coming up the fucking ramp and Kathy is like, oh, gotta.

959
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 4: Get out of here, like she just she here like

960
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,639
audibly says it too, like oh fuck, gotta go.

961
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 2: Bye.

962
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,119
Speaker 3: That was hilarious, and her face like this fucking Tom

963
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:47,000
and Jerry face like shit's coming.

964
00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: Ah.

965
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,199
Speaker 3: It was. It was great. It was great. There was

966
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,679
a lot of stuff that was entertaining about raw this week.

967
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,559
Yet again that isn't supposed to be entertaining.

968
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,519
Speaker 2: But uh, but by the way, somebody does need to

969
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:01,760
make this as a flag and bring this to the

970
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,760
next if they go to a live event where it

971
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,199
says I'm the best world entertainment wrestler in the world.

972
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:22,079
Someone needs. Yeah, a fucking Instagram post of James. That's

973
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,320
that is Seriously, that's why I kicked your lego from

974
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,840
I'm the best world entertainment wrestler in the world.

975
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: What if it makes sense? Hey, you know what, you

976
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:36,880
have a few shots and read that back. It's all

977
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:39,519
it doesn't make perfect sense, you know.

978
00:55:39,639 --> 00:55:42,599
Speaker 2: You know what, when people misspeak, that's one thing. But

979
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:45,119
when you write something down look.

980
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 3: At it would drunk.

981
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 2: By the way, we're all guilty of like write in

982
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,960
a long text, you know what, three or four sentences

983
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:00,320
and you look back and you go, oh, that was

984
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,960
a little redundant. Y're like, oh fuck, I ye are

985
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:06,760
used so instead of through you know, it was rushing

986
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,239
or whatever.

987
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 3: When your text messages fail a breathalyzer, Joe, there's a

988
00:56:11,639 --> 00:56:15,239
there's a problem, man, Will you please.

989
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: Step out of the text. When when Instagram's like, please

990
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,559
touch your nose, that's not a good it's a good thing.

991
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:32,719
I'm the best world entertainment wrestler in the world. Fuck yeah, yeah.

992
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:36,159
Speaker 3: That's why I kicked your leg out of your leg Brett, all.

993
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: Right, beautiful classic. I have to save this. There's no

994
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:43,320
way around it. I Like. That is so goddamn good.

995
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,559
Speaker 3: Everybody worries about like what kind of wrestler tattoos that

996
00:56:47,559 --> 00:56:51,079
they could get. That's the wrestling tattoo you should get, Like,

997
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,400
not the words of wisdom, just the ones that say

998
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,079
I'm the best world entertainment.

999
00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: Wrestler wrestler in the world. Yes, that that is straight up.

1000
00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:04,480
Like when they show you the pictures of like somebody

1001
00:57:04,519 --> 00:57:09,159
buying boot legs shirts and as you know where it's

1002
00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:13,360
like number one juicy hot girl's birthday, Like, wait, what

1003
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,599
the fuck was I say, it's are they trying to

1004
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:21,920
translate it? And it got all fucked up? Yeah? No, no.

1005
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: L A. Knight is back in the picture, though.

1006
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:26,519
Speaker 2: I'm kind of how nice of him to show up

1007
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:30,000
and just absolutely smack Seth in the face with his dick.

1008
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:33,519
Speaker 3: Oh god, that's Seth Rollins promo was weird. I guess

1009
00:57:33,519 --> 00:57:36,360
we can start that off too and talk about Seth

1010
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,760
coming out to Chicago and immediately painting himself as a

1011
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,920
baby face and start. He starts by running down Roman Reigns,

1012
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,599
another big baby face for the for the company, talking

1013
00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:53,239
about how he's not here not because he's lazy, but

1014
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:58,440
because they're not paying him enough. You know, which what Yeah, yeah,

1015
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,960
he's not getting paid enough to show up here. Uh,

1016
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,760
Chicago's like just not big enough for Roman Reigns. And

1017
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,360
I'm just like, what the fuck are you talking about, dude,

1018
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:10,599
And then he goes I'm not in the middle of nowhere.

1019
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:15,639
It goes into this weird violin stringing shit where he's like, oh, yeah,

1020
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,360
Roman Rains is the man, He's the chosen one. He

1021
00:58:19,519 --> 00:58:23,199
was always the chosen one. Motherfucker. You called yourself the

1022
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:27,960
architect for like three fucking years, which was how you

1023
00:58:28,039 --> 00:58:31,119
supposedly wear the architect of the shield and everything else,

1024
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,159
Like you're the one.

1025
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 2: That kind of visionary, I'm the brilliant genius, like you

1026
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:44,400
are literally calling yourself the Messiah, right, weird that, but

1027
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,079
this is it. This is what happens when you put

1028
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:49,519
people on television for fifteen years and they have forty

1029
00:58:49,559 --> 00:58:53,480
seven characters because none of them really fully well anyways,

1030
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,559
Uh yes, no, it was just hilarious. And then Seth

1031
00:58:57,159 --> 00:59:00,280
oh man, he did he did the crowd where I

1032
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:05,599
did love that. That was good his crowd work. He's like, hey,

1033
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:07,760
is that your mom with you?

1034
00:59:08,639 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how old is that kid?

1035
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,239
Speaker 2: Four?

1036
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: Five, six, seven, eight nine nine nine nine nine?

1037
00:59:20,119 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: Okay? Fuck? Are you guys a couple? Like yeah, you've

1038
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,760
heard should say?

1039
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 3: Buddy? So I was taking his airplate?

1040
00:59:38,679 --> 00:59:41,039
Speaker 2: Why did they give you that little bag of peanuts?

1041
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,639
There's never enough peanuts, Seth, what are you talking about?

1042
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,440
Fucking how about a promo of him? This? This is

1043
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,239
amazing to me because I just love this. You know,

1044
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,280
I hate to be the wife guy in this moment,

1045
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,280
but you do know you're married, Well, when you just

1046
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,719
hear your something, just your significant other say something that

1047
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,559
you just go, ah, that's just I couldn't have said

1048
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:07,599
that any better. It's just that it's like a relief,

1049
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,400
you know, where Seth starts to do in his thing

1050
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,440
where he's like, he's like, it's all I ever wanted

1051
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,880
to do when I was a kid, I have a

1052
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,320
dreamed of and the message just goes, why the fuck

1053
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,360
do we care what he wanted to do as a kid?

1054
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,480
Why do why would we care about his childhood and

1055
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:31,239
his dreams. I'm like, yes, thank you, thank you. Why

1056
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,440
is this like all the wrestlers, Like all the wrestlers

1057
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,800
do this, They all talk about their childhoods and what

1058
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,639
they wanted to be and how they wanted Like, is

1059
01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:43,599
this supposed to relate? Are we supposed to resonate with this?

1060
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 3: This is Sasha Banks fucking thing.

1061
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:49,079
Speaker 2: This is that ten years ago.

1062
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: I understand that, But somehow people still think that that works,

1063
01:00:54,519 --> 01:00:56,840
that if I come out here and break down about

1064
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,280
how much this means to me, people like me more.

1065
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,119
And sure, in some instances it comes off sincere and

1066
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,719
fans are grateful to hear stories like that, but when

1067
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,800
everybody's doing it, every ten minutes to try and squeeze

1068
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,719
as much sympathy as they can out of the audience.

1069
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:16,039
How much do you expect to get that? Why do

1070
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:18,039
you think Seth did it to start the show off?

1071
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,719
Imagine how little focks people would have given if he

1072
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,639
did that in the main event.

1073
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 2: No Rick, And that's and by the way, that's like

1074
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:30,280
the selling point supposedly of one of the main events

1075
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,639
of SummerSlam. And this is like the weirdest thing about

1076
01:01:34,679 --> 01:01:40,119
them continuously doing this was my childhood dreamed thing. And

1077
01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:44,480
wrestling is that we're dealing with people that are running

1078
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:47,559
this company, or the people that are letting them write,

1079
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:50,119
or the wrestlers in their own mind. Do we think

1080
01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:53,920
we're still living in an empathetic, fucking world that gives

1081
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,559
a fuck about people seeing them live their dreams. If anything,

1082
01:01:58,719 --> 01:02:00,760
half of the shit that we see every day of

1083
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,679
our lives is just somebody enacting something. Remember I mentioned

1084
01:02:04,719 --> 01:02:07,480
Spider earlier. It's just like a spite thing, Like it's

1085
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,400
just like yeah. And then we were thinking about giving

1086
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:14,760
a free college to paraplegic and they're like, don't do that.

1087
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,960
That'll just encourage them to not ever walk like we did.

1088
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,639
We live in an empathetic society.

1089
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: Is that we're supposed to see that's the problem. Yeh

1090
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,920
win win right. When it's under a spotlight. Of course

1091
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,920
we're an empathetic society. Of course you're the nicest person.

1092
01:02:32,159 --> 01:02:34,559
I donate three times a day. Of course, of course

1093
01:02:34,599 --> 01:02:34,800
you do.

1094
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 2: But when it comes to round up at taco bell.

1095
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,079
Speaker 3: Right rights the right.

1096
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where that twenty six cents is going.

1097
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,440
Probably it is real, but I don't care. I always

1098
01:02:47,519 --> 01:02:48,039
round it up.

1099
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,239
Speaker 3: It's give it to It's different, though, when you expect

1100
01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:54,679
people to have that kind of resolve in their normal,

1101
01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:58,719
everyday life, when they're showing up as as fans, when

1102
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:00,840
they're showing up as the people that are meant to

1103
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:05,519
be entertained. They're not going to pretend that fucking people

1104
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:09,480
with their charitable organizations matters to them. They're gonna want

1105
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,119
to be entertained. They're gonna want drama, they're gonna want violence,

1106
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:18,599
they're gonna want fucking titties like That's that's what it is.

1107
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: Like.

1108
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 3: It's as crude and as vulgar as that sounds. Look,

1109
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,840
you could be the nicest person in the world when

1110
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,199
you step outside of the United Center, but when you

1111
01:03:29,239 --> 01:03:31,440
get in there, there are a piece of shit like

1112
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,239
the rest of us.

1113
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,599
Speaker 2: Right, Well, how about just once again, you know you

1114
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:39,960
do with three sixty and just look around and go

1115
01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:44,440
what's going on over here? What's popular in this this

1116
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:46,960
side of the world, and you just go none of

1117
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,280
this shit is based in like, oh man, I'm so

1118
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,840
happy for that person. And nine of five nailed at it.

1119
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:57,480
It's like, this is my childhood dream, sir, you're forty.

1120
01:03:58,039 --> 01:03:58,239
You know.

1121
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,599
Speaker 3: The only thing that snaps people lot of that is

1122
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:03,480
when they do that with children, when they drag sick

1123
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:05,519
children into the middle of the ring, and then you

1124
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:09,360
feel bad, like I ww's done that a few times

1125
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,920
over theres many times actually over the years, but it

1126
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,639
always feels icky. You feel icky. You're like, dude, I'm

1127
01:04:16,639 --> 01:04:21,599
watching people like google girls, half naked girls and just

1128
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,880
beat the shit out of each other with weapons, and

1129
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,440
it's like, oh, it's time to feel bad for these

1130
01:04:27,519 --> 01:04:28,320
dying children.

1131
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:36,199
Speaker 2: Yay girls girls in hot pants, followed by.

1132
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,639
Speaker 3: Here's somebody who might not make it throughout the rest.

1133
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: Of the show.

1134
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's just it's awful. It always makes me

1135
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,880
feel bad and I hate the fact that WWE uses

1136
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:50,039
that altruism in order to generate sales. But ah, I

1137
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:52,880
don't know, like I understand it. It does work like

1138
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,679
there is a financial backbone to that that makes TKO

1139
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,000
and w W money. It's just but yeah, no, I'm sorry. Yeah,

1140
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:04,440
getting back to it, speaking of charity, L A. Night

1141
01:05:04,519 --> 01:05:07,320
was allowed to come out and get some shots in

1142
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,320
on seth Rollins Too, which.

1143
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 2: He called actually and actually say ship that the audience

1144
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,079
should be thinking. That was nice of them.

1145
01:05:15,159 --> 01:05:18,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah he was. They gave him like almost an

1146
01:05:18,639 --> 01:05:21,719
open mic. He was having a good time, you know,

1147
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,639
and then you know, Jimmy, Jimmy had to come out

1148
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:25,639
there and ruin it.

1149
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:28,719
Speaker 2: What did he say? He said, you and Roment are

1150
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:31,360
the two biggest pukes in the company or something like that,

1151
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:36,239
the two biggest vomits. I'm like, thank you, thank you.

1152
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:39,199
I know you're never going to win anything, and I

1153
01:05:39,239 --> 01:05:40,280
know they're never going to treat you.

1154
01:05:40,719 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 3: Speak your mind.

1155
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah right, just yeah, listen, you quit in this place.

1156
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:51,519
They're never giving you a recommend.

1157
01:05:52,559 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 3: Is just keeping l. A. Knight because in spite of

1158
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,880
him now at this point, like LA Knight's like, dude,

1159
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,480
give me, give me half go ahead, renegotiate my contract.

1160
01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:07,639
I'll just leave. And they're like, nah, you could stay around.

1161
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:08,320
We like you.

1162
01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 2: He's like, fuck you guys, don't like me at all.

1163
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 3: La Knight has a has a lifetime contract with the company,

1164
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:22,079
wants to get the fuck out of Yeah.

1165
01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:24,119
Speaker 2: He's just waiting for his moment to do his legitimate

1166
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:29,079
MJF fire making fucking mark promo. Like he's just he's

1167
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,320
just waiting for that moment where he can do that

1168
01:06:31,679 --> 01:06:34,320
and mean it. Oh no, like I was, I'm watching

1169
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,559
it and I'm going he's completely right. First of all,

1170
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:41,800
this segment went twenty five minutes to show you, guys,

1171
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:47,519
not twenty five minutes. This thing went sure, and then

1172
01:06:48,159 --> 01:06:50,239
Seth gets by the way, this is what they do

1173
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:53,079
with Roman too. Roman and Seth both have this magical

1174
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:55,760
power and you and Jay, who's shows to a lesser

1175
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,639
extent too. Somebody gets to rebut them and then they

1176
01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,760
get them go from back and they just go yo mama,

1177
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,599
and then their music plays and was like, well, I

1178
01:07:04,599 --> 01:07:09,159
guess that's over now. I guess we've just decided the

1179
01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:15,239
segment is over. Like like you come out, you're like fart, fart,

1180
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,039
shit shit fuck and then some guy comes out and goes, no,

1181
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:21,119
what your fart, fart shit shit, fuck sucks. And then

1182
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:23,559
the guy nigs it back and just goes no reverse

1183
01:07:23,679 --> 01:07:25,719
and then they hit your fucking music and you just

1184
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,719
saunter out like that was a good use of a

1185
01:07:28,719 --> 01:07:30,639
half an hour of my life. I appreciate it.

1186
01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:33,239
Speaker 3: But people realize they can see through that. Most people

1187
01:07:33,519 --> 01:07:36,480
realize that Seth Rollins is fucking just as much shit

1188
01:07:36,559 --> 01:07:39,239
as Roman is sucks. It's at least the bigger city.

1189
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,159
Chicago reacted accordingly to Seth. I think there was the

1190
01:07:43,719 --> 01:07:46,480
initial hey, let's all sing along with the rock moments,

1191
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,440
and that fucking petered out real fast. I was kind

1192
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,639
of happy for Chicago.

1193
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,639
Speaker 2: And then well, maybe the fact that he's got his

1194
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,239
whole character shit has been like I hate damn bunks

1195
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,960
so much. And then they're in fucking Chicago, right and

1196
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,159
then he comes out he's like getting out of a

1197
01:08:01,239 --> 01:08:01,719
Jake Jim.

1198
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 3: Well no, then he drops the pipe bob like he

1199
01:08:04,679 --> 01:08:07,519
was trying to be the Seth Rollins version of CM

1200
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:12,000
punk by turning all the hate towards Roman, going you see,

1201
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,400
I'm gonna tell you gets something that you don't know.

1202
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:17,560
Roman doesn't have to be here because because they're not

1203
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:19,000
paying him enough to be here.

1204
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 2: I gotta say I did love the part with that's

1205
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,560
going Roman was over pushed and we're like, yeah, dude,

1206
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:34,479
yeah right, no way, holy shit, dude, really fifteen minutes

1207
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:38,479
into or fifteen fifteen minutes too, fifteen years into this thing,

1208
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,239
years how when I had turned out that they actually

1209
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:42,920
wanted him more than me.

1210
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 3: All he was missing was a fucking backwards cap and

1211
01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:49,039
a fucking turned around seat. That's all he was missing.

1212
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:51,920
Let me rap with you.

1213
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 2: You know, like, ugh, I I cannot with this dude anymore.

1214
01:08:57,199 --> 01:08:58,960
I haven't been able to deal with him for a

1215
01:08:59,079 --> 01:09:02,560
long time. Ellie and I get being able to get

1216
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,880
his legs in on him. And then he said something

1217
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,199
during it, and it was so funny because the crowd

1218
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:13,840
doesn't even like gasp or go oh, They just like

1219
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:17,840
clapped in the way that if somebody gives a speech

1220
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,680
and they have one of those yeah oh. Was that

1221
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,119
it where the crowd clapped in the same way that

1222
01:09:27,159 --> 01:09:30,000
if somebody gave like a graduation speech and they were

1223
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:33,880
like to quote the great doctor Martin Lucy King Junior,

1224
01:09:34,239 --> 01:09:36,560
and then like at the end everybody just like that

1225
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,319
was a good quote. He picked a good quote, like

1226
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,520
that was that was the reaction. It wasn't even like,

1227
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,239
oh yeah, in your fucking faces. It was quite literally

1228
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:49,359
like wow, good good. I liked that. That was a

1229
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,000
good That was a good choice.

1230
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:56,319
Speaker 3: But getting getting past this point, like we already talked

1231
01:09:56,319 --> 01:09:58,239
about Ellie knitchwell we'll talk a little bit more about

1232
01:09:58,279 --> 01:10:00,359
that too, but we got to a the point of

1233
01:10:00,399 --> 01:10:03,159
the show that I really enjoyed. I enjoyed the the

1234
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:08,279
stare down, the back and forth, the political maneuvering between

1235
01:10:08,399 --> 01:10:12,359
nick All, this and Pierce and Adam Pierce. It was good.

1236
01:10:13,039 --> 01:10:16,079
It was interesting to see authority figures kind of shoving

1237
01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:19,279
back and forth at one another, and Adam Pearce is like, yeah,

1238
01:10:19,359 --> 01:10:21,439
now I'm running both shows because you're a fuck up,

1239
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:24,960
and Nick All is getting getting up in his face

1240
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,319
about it, and I'm like, wow, this is this is

1241
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:32,079
fucking interesting an authority storyline that I'm kind of curious

1242
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:33,720
what the fuck they're going to do to each other

1243
01:10:34,359 --> 01:10:37,039
because they're both supposed to quote unquote not step back

1244
01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:39,560
in the ring, which that might happen. I think a

1245
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,199
lot of people believe that there's going to be a

1246
01:10:41,239 --> 01:10:43,760
point where both of these men can step back in

1247
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,279
the ring. But even if they don't, Even if they don't,

1248
01:10:46,359 --> 01:10:49,880
I'm interested to see where this goes, because both men

1249
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:53,159
have garnered enough favor with the audience for us to

1250
01:10:53,399 --> 01:10:56,439
believe that they care about their respective brands. Like, even

1251
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,760
if you don't think Nick Alldos is the best SmackDown

1252
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,000
of the already figure, and arguably it's always going to

1253
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,720
be peanutthead er Vicky as the best for SmackDown, I

1254
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,199
still think that he does a good job of making

1255
01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:12,119
people believe he does care about SmackDown. I don't feel

1256
01:11:12,159 --> 01:11:15,159
like he's a detached authority figure. He's not just a

1257
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:17,840
hanger on. And same thing with Pierce. Pierce is fucking

1258
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,039
miles ahead, fantastic raw authority figure. Probably haven't had such

1259
01:11:22,039 --> 01:11:25,319
a good authority figure since all Chris Benwah for that

1260
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:29,439
week there. Yeah, it's just I don't know's I like

1261
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,199
the back and forth the meat with Adam Pierce.

1262
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:37,239
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, well, I still think that I think

1263
01:11:37,279 --> 01:11:41,680
Pierce is better in this in this role. It was weird,

1264
01:11:42,119 --> 01:11:44,960
like the way that they did the same where all

1265
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:47,920
this was like, well, guess what I fixed this problem

1266
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,439
for year over here making phone calls. He's like, are

1267
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:55,720
we pretending that Adam Pierce didn't think to call See

1268
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:56,880
Him Punk? Too?

1269
01:11:58,199 --> 01:11:59,119
Speaker 3: Well, he was on the phone.

1270
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:02,199
Speaker 2: I have at least two seconds, so yeah, yeah, but

1271
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:05,319
I'm thinking of myself. I'm like, I want to know

1272
01:12:05,399 --> 01:12:10,840
who Adam Pearce was calling in Chicago, you know, yeah,

1273
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:11,560
like I want.

1274
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 3: To hey call.

1275
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, McAfee, can you come down here? Like who's

1276
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,199
who else is he calling? They got that to me

1277
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,720
was one of the funniest things about They could have

1278
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,520
gone with the whole Hey, how about both of them

1279
01:12:32,079 --> 01:12:34,319
meet up at the thing and he's like, oh, yeah,

1280
01:12:34,399 --> 01:12:38,840
he was, And then they both kind of say, well, yeah, dude,

1281
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:43,000
we both fucking called See Him Punk? Obviously the funck

1282
01:12:43,079 --> 01:12:45,760
else are you gonna call? Ghostbusters?

1283
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:46,039
Speaker 3: Like?

1284
01:12:46,119 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 2: Who else are you calling? I would have loved to

1285
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,119
have known, Like if they did that, next week, whomever

1286
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,960
from whatever Chicago wrestler or somebody for the area just

1287
01:12:56,039 --> 01:12:58,720
shows up and they're just like, so, Pierce, you told

1288
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,039
me I had a match, buddy, And he's like, oh, well,

1289
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:06,439
you know, thinks just things change.

1290
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,319
Speaker 3: Stick them out there with OBA. And that was another

1291
01:13:10,359 --> 01:13:12,159
thing too, I was very happy that Cody did not

1292
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:15,760
did not do anything. That Cody was taken out at

1293
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,600
the beginning of the show. I was actually very happy

1294
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,560
for that because I was just not excited about Cody

1295
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,800
stepping out there with Sammy, and it made more sense,

1296
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,439
It made more sense ultimately that Seampunk got in there

1297
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,880
with Sammy and won the title. But you know, yeah,

1298
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:36,119
speaking of Oba, uh, well, I mean he's still he's

1299
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:40,239
still talking about murdering people and finding them in hell,

1300
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,359
and you know, once I slaughter your children and babies

1301
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,239
and you know, like normal normal wrestling promos and cz

1302
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:49,439
W do.

1303
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:54,399
Speaker 2: He's a little too much of of a gentleman for mate,

1304
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:58,800
And I'm not, Yeah, was a little.

1305
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,399
Speaker 3: I'm going to eat your children? Why you watch, I'm

1306
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,479
going to suck on their bones. What a gentleman? What

1307
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,239
an absolute gentleman's.

1308
01:14:08,359 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: But he's dressed so sharp, and he just looks.

1309
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to murder you and stab your wife in

1310
01:14:13,319 --> 01:14:16,039
the throat and watch her blood drip into the ground

1311
01:14:16,079 --> 01:14:17,880
and go to hell and then kick you there.

1312
01:14:19,119 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 2: But does he have to look so does he have

1313
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,479
to look so damned so damn dapper? Will he? Oh

1314
01:14:25,119 --> 01:14:25,840
that's the problem.

1315
01:14:26,199 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 3: Well, give him a mask, Just give him a pensa

1316
01:14:29,079 --> 01:14:29,760
mask or something.

1317
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: Why do you just give him a chainsaw? Said them

1318
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,159
come out with a chainsaw. No, no, I mean I

1319
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:38,000
still am not crazy about the And this, to me,

1320
01:14:38,199 --> 01:14:41,399
this is what's gone from the years of like like

1321
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:48,439
wrestling yesteryear, you know, where the sniveling, shit asshole manager

1322
01:14:49,319 --> 01:14:52,159
just gets to get in the face of the fucking

1323
01:14:52,399 --> 01:14:55,640
crazy dominant hell and Hayman tries like, I'm not sitting

1324
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,640
there saying, like Hayman was looking at him like cool

1325
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,920
you mother, Like Hayman was definitely make it like a

1326
01:15:00,359 --> 01:15:03,159
oh please don't kill me Hayman face.

1327
01:15:04,359 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Hayman did have a little swagger and he

1328
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:10,359
and rightfully so like it made sense because you gotta remember,

1329
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,359
I mean they even showed it the clip beforehand of

1330
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,640
Brock kicking open the dick, you know, and saying, talk shit,

1331
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,079
get hit, And so fucking Paul Haman came out there

1332
01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:23,119
with that, you know, don't talk shit, don't get hit

1333
01:15:23,279 --> 01:15:28,800
kind of vibe, and I'm sure and that's the vibe

1334
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,279
that Hayman absued. You know that if Oba beats the

1335
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:35,840
shit out of Hayman, Brock's gonna hurt you. So maybe

1336
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,840
you don't want to fucking beat the shit out of Hayman,

1337
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,840
But Hayman is also still a coward. So it's like, yeah,

1338
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,079
I can exude that energy, but that goes away when

1339
01:15:44,079 --> 01:15:47,239
you start talking about murdering and skinning my children in

1340
01:15:47,359 --> 01:15:48,920
front of me on live television.

1341
01:15:49,079 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think he should at least I think

1342
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,319
Hayman should at least if he's ever put in a

1343
01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:57,760
situation where he's face to face, Yeah with a guy

1344
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,800
like Oba, he should say you know as well as

1345
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,319
I do that if you touch me, this match will

1346
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:09,720
not happen because then you're immediately taking away his agency

1347
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,479
as somebody that could. Wood should be beating the fuck

1348
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,920
out of this guy because it's wrestling, Like I mean,

1349
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,119
at the end of the day, it's still fucking pro wrestling,

1350
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,960
where like like I said, it's like, yes, he's sitting

1351
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,600
there going like I'm gonna make you bleed your own

1352
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,439
blood and you're gonna ship blood and his blood and

1353
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,960
bleed blood and coume blood, and I'm the real world

1354
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:36,159
entertainment wrestler in the world, Like that's what he's doing.

1355
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,520
Speaker 3: I like, I like Oba, but he is really giving

1356
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,359
me Amed Johnson vibes.

1357
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,960
Speaker 2: Like they gotta stop? Do they gotta stop?

1358
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 3: He is giving Pearl plunge vibes twenty twenty six style.

1359
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:49,560
You know what I mean?

1360
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: Right, he's uh And I'm not saying make him a

1361
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:59,399
mindless fucking drone war machine to the health. But like you,

1362
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,760
he's never ever be put in a position where he's

1363
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:07,600
looking at somebody like that and he's just not gonna

1364
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:10,840
grab the guy by the call or do something where

1365
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,720
he gets directly in his face and just fucking I'm

1366
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,520
gonna you know you, you don't fucking talk to me

1367
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,319
that way like, and I get it because people will

1368
01:17:19,359 --> 01:17:21,840
then look at you and say, well, this person's a

1369
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,239
baby first, and there's a baby face. It's like, yes,

1370
01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:26,239
but also part of a baby face is like you

1371
01:17:26,319 --> 01:17:29,079
don't let somebody, even as a good guy, you don't

1372
01:17:29,119 --> 01:17:32,319
let somebody call your mama bitch to your face, do

1373
01:17:32,359 --> 01:17:34,399
you know what I mean? You don't let somebody say

1374
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,720
you're a pussy. You don't let somebody say I'm smarter

1375
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,520
that like you just stand up for yourself, you know.

1376
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean it's you know, you don't let

1377
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,199
somebody call your mama bitch to your face. But then

1378
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:46,039
you don't turn around and threaten him by putting a

1379
01:17:46,119 --> 01:17:47,439
clock to their head either for that.

1380
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 2: That's true, I'm gonna But then, but then what you do? Yeah,

1381
01:17:53,119 --> 01:17:55,520
your mom's a bitch. I am going to eat you. Yes,

1382
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,239
I am going to boil you and eat you. Wait,

1383
01:17:59,359 --> 01:18:00,760
what the fuck's going on?

1384
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not good at that. He's not good at escalation.

1385
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:11,359
I mean, he's good at extreme escalation, like Tommy Dreamer escalation,

1386
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,279
but he's not good at wrestling escalation.

1387
01:18:15,399 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 2: No, no, And and Hayman's doing the best he can

1388
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,920
with what the position they're putting him in, or he's

1389
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,520
choosing to put himself in I don't even know anymore.

1390
01:18:25,279 --> 01:18:28,239
But there's also this whole part of me too where

1391
01:18:28,319 --> 01:18:32,079
I see Hayman doing this shit. And yes, Hayman's maybe

1392
01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:35,119
the best. I mean he as far as WWE managers

1393
01:18:35,159 --> 01:18:38,119
are concerned, he's almost inarguably the best to do it

1394
01:18:38,199 --> 01:18:41,239
in the past thirty years. You know, Yeah, but it

1395
01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:43,439
does it does reach this point where it's like you're

1396
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,479
he hogs that one position in the whole company as

1397
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:51,560
a guy that can't get physical, can't get hit. I mean,

1398
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,439
somebody will say, well I got here six months ago whatever.

1399
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,439
It's like, yeah, but you need to be able to

1400
01:18:57,199 --> 01:19:00,800
months ago. I know, right, but that's what they'll say

1401
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:03,640
it like that. It's like, well you did get get

1402
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,000
the shit kicked out of him and last Easter or something.

1403
01:19:07,079 --> 01:19:10,760
You're like, yeah, that's that's what a manager like a

1404
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,720
manas you're supposed to be involved in like physical shit

1405
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,439
and you get hurt, and that's what it needs to

1406
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:21,479
actually actually be. But yeah, I don't know. I'm just

1407
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,399
not I'm not crazy about this with with him and

1408
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,359
doing the face off with Opa. And I also do

1409
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:32,800
think it's fucking kind of weird to where okay Oba saying,

1410
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,479
oh I have a title mash, I'll get it later,

1411
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,720
and then they're like, we can't find anybody to wrestle

1412
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:42,279
him for the title, right, huh, Well, maybe that would

1413
01:19:42,279 --> 01:19:44,239
have been the night to not have Oba show up.

1414
01:19:44,279 --> 01:19:47,520
And I clearly I'm like I want Oba to do well.

1415
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,640
I like him. I'm rooting for the fucking guy.

1416
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,199
Speaker 3: Why couldn't you have taken his King of the Ring

1417
01:19:52,399 --> 01:19:55,359
opportunity and wrestled and match and lost it that way

1418
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,279
instead of just having him throw it away last week.

1419
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,600
Even if it was by underhanded tactics or something else,

1420
01:20:04,039 --> 01:20:07,479
somebody could have wrestled Oba or Brock could have gotten involved,

1421
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,479
or Hayman could have even gotten involved and cost Oba

1422
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,279
the match, and somebody else could have taken that King

1423
01:20:13,359 --> 01:20:16,279
of the Ring opportunity. Oh I don't know, like like

1424
01:20:16,399 --> 01:20:22,520
a Russev, I'm anybody. Well, they they know, they do,

1425
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,760
they did. I think they did well by Russev this week.

1426
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,239
I enjoyed even the even the promo with him in

1427
01:20:29,319 --> 01:20:31,800
fucking uh uh oh Jesus Christ.

1428
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:37,359
Speaker 2: Why yeah, they give But dude, he's never gonna They're

1429
01:20:37,359 --> 01:20:38,119
not gonna put him.

1430
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,239
Speaker 3: That's not the point. The point is that you give

1431
01:20:43,359 --> 01:20:45,680
validity to Russev. You give him a little bit of

1432
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,279
that now all of a sudden, as a heel, he's

1433
01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:51,960
a King of the Ring winner, even though he's not. Like,

1434
01:20:52,079 --> 01:20:55,479
it's just and now you know Ethan pages with them too,

1435
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,079
and I know that they got that gauntlet next week.

1436
01:20:59,079 --> 01:21:00,880
You know, It's just I don't, oh Man, like they

1437
01:21:01,319 --> 01:21:05,439
clearly care enough about him to put him and Ethan

1438
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:09,000
Page and matches up against you know, a newly crowned

1439
01:21:09,039 --> 01:21:12,479
Mexican gable. You know, it's just it's fine.

1440
01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 2: Our new Mexican, our new Mexican American Jed Gable with

1441
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,239
the worst AI music you've ever heard in your fucking life.

1442
01:21:20,279 --> 01:21:23,039
Speaker 3: Oh it's great again. Another part of the show that's

1443
01:21:23,239 --> 01:21:26,199
fan fuckingtastic. I love it. I love it.

1444
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,359
Speaker 2: It sounds. It sounds quite literally like when you put

1445
01:21:32,119 --> 01:21:35,239
when you use like a shitty AI song making program

1446
01:21:35,319 --> 01:21:39,880
and you're like, make a song about popsicles. It's like,

1447
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:45,960
popsicles are really good. I like popsicles because they're cold.

1448
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:52,119
They're like, yeah, that's some creative ship. And then they're

1449
01:21:52,159 --> 01:21:52,680
playing it.

1450
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,399
Speaker 3: That's what it is. It's like interdimensional cable, but with

1451
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,880
w WE themes. It's fucking great.

1452
01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah how about you know, this just kind of kind

1453
01:22:04,359 --> 01:22:06,239
of struck me too, and it's sort of gone back

1454
01:22:06,279 --> 01:22:09,800
to you shouldn't have had Oba in the building because

1455
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,600
Oba has technically a title match still and yeah, he's calling.

1456
01:22:14,039 --> 01:22:17,439
I can't find anybody to feel Oba Femily was just

1457
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,640
out there to fifteen minutes ago, right, you could have

1458
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,680
just literally watched him Oba Femi be like, here's my

1459
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,920
main event, Bang bang boom. That's a fucking hell of

1460
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:28,279
the main event. It almost would have been interesting had

1461
01:22:28,359 --> 01:22:32,159
you told the story of Pierce goes and gets Oba

1462
01:22:33,079 --> 01:22:37,079
and then fucking you know, all this goes and gets

1463
01:22:37,159 --> 01:22:39,960
Punk and all this goes with you know, you have

1464
01:22:40,359 --> 01:22:42,880
you have Oba come out and then Punk's music hit

1465
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,079
and all this comes out and says, go, go go go,

1466
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,479
and then you're like, well, how the fuck did this happen?

1467
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,439
And then you tell the story all this went above

1468
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,119
his head and said I can get fucking see him

1469
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:56,199
Punk to show up and he's like, will you motherfucker

1470
01:22:56,239 --> 01:22:58,239
you messing with my show? Like, and then you have

1471
01:22:58,319 --> 01:23:00,680
a three way and you have an excuse for where

1472
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,520
then Sammy can fucking get you know, pinned by Punk

1473
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,279
and blah blah blah blah blah whatever it might be.

1474
01:23:06,119 --> 01:23:07,800
So that might have been kind of a cool way

1475
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,319
to go with it, But instead they did the main

1476
01:23:10,359 --> 01:23:13,560
event that they had and the match itself was good

1477
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,520
because you had two people that actually not a fucking word.

1478
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 3: But what was the main event was the event?

1479
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:23,520
Speaker 2: Again? The main event was I think Maxine dupri.

1480
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,279
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I remember that match.

1481
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:32,119
Speaker 2: The Punk, Yeah, the Maxine, the max Punk. No, yeah,

1482
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:35,600
you had see him punk for a Sammy the main Yeah, yeah,

1483
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,079
you might have heard of him, by the way Punk

1484
01:23:39,279 --> 01:23:41,520
for all to talk about seeing Punk being gassed to

1485
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,960
the gels. He just looked like he was kind of

1486
01:23:45,119 --> 01:23:47,960
like he was in shape like that to me, like

1487
01:23:48,119 --> 01:23:50,960
now actually having seen him and like in his gear

1488
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,319
and going out there, Yeah, he looked bigger than he

1489
01:23:53,399 --> 01:23:56,279
did it before. Sure, but you know he's also standing

1490
01:23:56,359 --> 01:24:01,840
next to Sammy, who's so fucking skinny in length buff know, yes, yeah, yeah,

1491
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,439
he's just in shape. Like I don't I don't know.

1492
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,199
I didn't Like I saw him out there doing his

1493
01:24:07,319 --> 01:24:08,840
deal and I was like, yeah, I don't even know.

1494
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,720
I don't think he's he's like yoked, He's not walking

1495
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,600
out there looking like Brian Cage or nothing.

1496
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if that first photo was fucking

1497
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,600
tampered ye too, Yeah, because we never got to see

1498
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:23,479
his video. Did anybody see actual video of him out

1499
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:23,880
like no?

1500
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean mill mish, How could they ever have

1501
01:24:28,199 --> 01:24:28,960
doctored a photo?

1502
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Pumped at it himself made

1503
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,800
a fake, made a fake. Fucking yeah, he said big

1504
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:37,720
Jack pictures.

1505
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:39,239
Speaker 2: He gave me.

1506
01:24:39,319 --> 01:24:42,359
Speaker 3: Fifteen extra pounds of muscle. Thanks. I appreciate you.

1507
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,199
Speaker 2: That can you make me look even more jacked? And

1508
01:24:45,279 --> 01:24:49,840
then he just fucking it leaks it out of the internet. Yeah. No,

1509
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,439
the match itself was what it's what you expected it

1510
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,880
to be. It's two people that are very very good

1511
01:24:56,359 --> 01:24:59,039
and know exactly what they need to be doing. And

1512
01:24:59,399 --> 01:25:03,319
uh yeah, I liked it and I can't anymore though,

1513
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,960
And now I'm seeing like a couple of people in

1514
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:07,720
the chat. I actually just got a text from an

1515
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,399
old wrestling friend of mine from college where it's showing

1516
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:16,479
a punkin to it. Look, he's like, Hulk Hogan, are

1517
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,399
we still really is every personnel that actually gets treated

1518
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:22,439
like a main event? Or is the idea that now

1519
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,079
that they're Hulk Hogan, is that just what we're going

1520
01:25:25,159 --> 01:25:29,279
to do now to everybody that if you're if you're

1521
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:35,520
actually somebody that's supposed to be perceived as a main talent,

1522
01:25:36,359 --> 01:25:37,840
that they just go, oh, he won.

1523
01:25:38,079 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 3: That's just like hul Cogan, Like that's the real legacy

1524
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,079
that Hogan leaves behind Joe. He gets to be a

1525
01:25:46,399 --> 01:25:51,279
slanderous insult from fans to wrestlers for the rest of eternity.

1526
01:25:53,199 --> 01:25:56,039
I'm serious. I know it's silly, to say, but that's

1527
01:25:56,039 --> 01:25:58,800
what a hulk Hogan's legacy is. That's his real legacy

1528
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,760
is it. It's basically, here's a guy who doesn't belong

1529
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:04,880
in the position that he's in, and he's getting paid

1530
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,279
a lot of money to be worthless, to be to

1531
01:26:08,359 --> 01:26:12,399
be a figurehead. So when people call Cempunk hulk Hogan,

1532
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,479
that's what they're saying. Cempunk is a talentless hack that

1533
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,520
doesn't belong in the position that he is, and he's

1534
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,000
making way too much money for the lack of talent

1535
01:26:22,119 --> 01:26:24,159
that he has. That's what they're trying to say.

1536
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,680
Speaker 2: Which is which is also hilarious. Yeah, yeah, it's it's insane.

1537
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:34,279
But it's like obviously MJF posted a saying being like, oh,

1538
01:26:34,359 --> 01:26:37,399
look he's like hull Cogan. It's like, dude, maybe you

1539
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,199
need to check your tone with the way that people

1540
01:26:39,239 --> 01:26:41,720
talk about how you act in the aw locker room. Right,

1541
01:26:42,279 --> 01:26:46,239
you know, Hey, he throws cm Punk's throwing his weight around.

1542
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,720
How'd you go ask Britt Baker about throwing your weight around? Dude?

1543
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,079
I guess, and you go see how they're doing. Where

1544
01:26:52,119 --> 01:26:54,520
is she at? Not that she's not a fucking contula,

1545
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,800
but like you did kind of do that. You are

1546
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,680
kind of a politicing guy, but no, like it still

1547
01:27:02,079 --> 01:27:05,520
makes me laugh though. It's like Punk is like Hull

1548
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:12,560
Hogan like oh really and it's like okay, Punk Cody

1549
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:18,000
just baseline, let's take those two. They have never and

1550
01:27:18,199 --> 01:27:22,800
will never draw as much money as Hogan did, right,

1551
01:27:23,039 --> 01:27:27,319
just off of who they are, you know, but you

1552
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:31,840
would be lying to yourself and lying to everybody else

1553
01:27:32,359 --> 01:27:35,319
if you weren't to say, as a wrestler, who would

1554
01:27:35,359 --> 01:27:37,880
you rather have to wrestle for three months and walk

1555
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:43,720
away knowing that you would still be a character You're like,

1556
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,720
your whole being as a fucking performer would still actually

1557
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,439
maintain who you were, Like you'd still be able to

1558
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,479
carry on. Obviously, you'd rather work with like a Punk

1559
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,960
or a Cody all things can obviously all money the same,

1560
01:27:58,039 --> 01:28:00,640
because somebody would say to you, well, you work with brother,

1561
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,880
you'd make more money, and da da da, and it's

1562
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,399
like yeah, but then you'd also just be chewed up

1563
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,680
and spit out and you'd end up like Kamala, driving

1564
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,680
a fucking truck until you die, you know, Like that's

1565
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,720
how it was handled. People would come in, they'd get

1566
01:28:15,119 --> 01:28:18,319
fed to Hogan. They were there for whatever, three months,

1567
01:28:18,359 --> 01:28:22,359
six months and smell you later. Is that the same

1568
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:26,760
thing that's happening with Cody and Punk. No, not at all,

1569
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:32,439
And it's just this very very very fucking lazy I

1570
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,399
think too. Fans just oh, he's just like he's just

1571
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,359
like a hog and he just comes in and just

1572
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,439
takes the fucking belt away from him. Did you see

1573
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,000
the promo? I texted it to you, like the actual

1574
01:28:44,039 --> 01:28:48,960
regular fucking phone text of the promo with Sammy where

1575
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,680
after the fact where they had Sammy and they were fording. Yeah,

1576
01:28:53,239 --> 01:28:56,359
he's like, yeah, I got screwed over and blah blah blah.

1577
01:28:56,399 --> 01:29:02,920
I'm like, man, anybody that believes that's real, that's anyone

1578
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,199
that's still buying into that, I'm like, good for you.

1579
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,920
You're really still like a mark for this shit. If

1580
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:14,279
you think that Sammy Zay lost that belt and then

1581
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:18,560
they had just magically a camera appeared and then he's going,

1582
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:19,840
there's just a shoot.

1583
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 3: That's the closest thing to a fucking decent storyline they

1584
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:28,159
could have pulled out of that way, way more interesting

1585
01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:32,479
than fucking Rollin's Roman. I would rather see Sammy and

1586
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,479
sampunk go at it some more if that's the narrative

1587
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:36,319
that they're gonna push.

1588
01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 2: I mean he was.

1589
01:29:38,039 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 3: I mean, since everybody was shooting on Monday, apparently, why

1590
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:46,000
why didn't fucking Sammy just name drop Tko. TKO told

1591
01:29:46,039 --> 01:29:48,319
me to drop this. I mean, you're you're already doing

1592
01:29:48,359 --> 01:29:51,159
this off the air, that that scene will never get

1593
01:29:51,239 --> 01:29:54,960
fucking pushed on on regular television. I don't think. I

1594
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,399
don't think they would. But at that point, if you

1595
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:01,199
have the attention of the camera, you just lost the title.

1596
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,239
TKO wanted me to lose the belt to this fucking

1597
01:30:04,319 --> 01:30:07,319
piece of shit, and he called him a motherfucker and

1598
01:30:07,399 --> 01:30:09,720
everything else. And then at the very end of it,

1599
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:14,039
he like literally lays down and he starts to cry, like, yeah,

1600
01:30:14,359 --> 01:30:17,319
that's that's a much better storyline. I've never won the

1601
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:21,439
title all these years, twenty fucking years, and this is

1602
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,840
the first time I get a real shot at fucking

1603
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,680
the title, and this asshole walks in and takes it

1604
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,479
away in twenty four hours. And it wasn't even his decision.

1605
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:34,880
It was TKO's fuck this company, fuck you, Like, I'm sorry.

1606
01:30:35,159 --> 01:30:38,359
If Sammy pulled the card out, we would be talking

1607
01:30:38,399 --> 01:30:40,199
about Sammy very differently today.

1608
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Well it was also funny because well, Sammy lays down

1609
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:48,560
on the ground, starts up and you hear in the

1610
01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:52,800
background the arena and they're playing that shitty fucking eminem song.

1611
01:30:53,159 --> 01:31:00,239
Oh yeah, I'm like, yeah, that's I get it. It's

1612
01:31:00,359 --> 01:31:01,800
just the ambient noise that's gonne no.

1613
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 3: But that adds to it because it's more of that

1614
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,479
corporate bullshit. And when you have somebody trying to have

1615
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,880
a real emotional moment and you lay some some craft

1616
01:31:12,039 --> 01:31:15,800
macaroni and cheese down in the back, yeah, yeah, that's

1617
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,520
that's going to fucking irritate people like this is the

1618
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,079
Sami's am that goes to work with a thirty eight.

1619
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:26,000
This is the same He's aim that flies his goddamn

1620
01:31:26,119 --> 01:31:28,840
cessna on to the side of a building that's where

1621
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,600
you're at. But they'll they'll never do it. They will

1622
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,920
never fucking pull the trigger. No pun intended on a

1623
01:31:35,119 --> 01:31:38,279
Sammy on this level. Same reason why. And I think

1624
01:31:38,319 --> 01:31:41,199
we talked about that before too, and I'm still stuck

1625
01:31:41,239 --> 01:31:44,000
in that. I'm I remember watching the uh, the Stephen

1626
01:31:44,079 --> 01:31:47,720
Richards take on what RTC work in twenty twenty six,

1627
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,880
and as humble as he is, of a guy as

1628
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,319
he is. He doesn't think that there's a place for

1629
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:57,720
righteous censor in twenty twenty six. And I'm just paraphrasing

1630
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,640
right like, he has multiple reasons by I look at

1631
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,439
it and go, are you kidding me? Right to censor

1632
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,399
would be the biggest thing since Halkamania in twenty twenty six.

1633
01:32:10,960 --> 01:32:14,640
You just have to find a note of thinking from

1634
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:19,479
TKO that would allow these storylines to take place. I

1635
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,840
don't even think you have to be creative. I really don't.

1636
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:27,039
I think that the pardon me, I think that the real,

1637
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:34,520
the real gripe of the fan and the wrestlers are

1638
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,239
parallel to each other. The shit that fans don't like

1639
01:32:38,319 --> 01:32:42,279
about wrestling, I don't think the wrestlers like about wrestling.

1640
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:47,079
I think everybody's in the same pot going it fucking

1641
01:32:47,319 --> 01:32:49,439
sucks in here, fix.

1642
01:32:49,319 --> 01:32:54,520
Speaker 2: It, fucking it fucking sucks it. So I'm just hoping that,

1643
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:58,640
you know, and also you laid down some serious stuff there,

1644
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,920
but I'm hoping that Sammy wouldn't come out, you know,

1645
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:07,399
dressed like Sgt. Slaughter. You know, that could be a

1646
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:13,560
real problem. All right, Relax, Tiffany, Well, I mean you said,

1647
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,239
like the way you kind of describe it was almost

1648
01:33:15,319 --> 01:33:17,159
like him being a terrorist. I was like, well, let's

1649
01:33:17,199 --> 01:33:19,840
not make him b SG slatter.

1650
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,880
Speaker 3: I'm okay with that. And and look, let's be honest.

1651
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,520
We we talked about it. He was the very first

1652
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,600
Muslim to ever hold a title. He goes your T

1653
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:35,520
shirts or tight And if wwe had any balls, they

1654
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,680
would run that political storyline like they did with Sgt.

1655
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,640
Slaughter from back in the day. Why not let let

1656
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:43,920
people be upset.

1657
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see, let's see how fifty million dollars a

1658
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,319
fucking show. I was like, all right, so listen, you

1659
01:33:53,399 --> 01:33:57,000
know that guy that you really liked a.

1660
01:33:59,359 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 3: I'm just like, there's an opportunity there. But again, nobody

1661
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,640
has any balls to do this shit. It doesn't because

1662
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:10,960
you know what, it takes less balls to stab somebody

1663
01:34:11,039 --> 01:34:15,600
with a fucking tetanus nail through their hand, then it

1664
01:34:15,680 --> 01:34:21,000
does somebody recognizing something that's politically controversial, just saying.

1665
01:34:21,159 --> 01:34:25,279
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, though still we have no

1666
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:29,520
heels and no babyfaces on the show basically anymore so,

1667
01:34:30,279 --> 01:34:32,880
where once again then also put in a position where

1668
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:36,000
even with Sammy, where Sammy's in there being like this

1669
01:34:36,119 --> 01:34:39,479
is bullshits. I shouldn't know. There's a like there's a

1670
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,119
lot of people that see that. He go, yeah, that

1671
01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:45,199
is bullshit. That is ridiculous. You know. So we almost

1672
01:34:45,359 --> 01:34:49,119
end up still even when you land in a place

1673
01:34:49,199 --> 01:34:51,760
where all right, this story is pretty good, or like

1674
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:55,600
you can make something, but we're constantly splitting and not

1675
01:34:55,720 --> 01:35:00,239
even splitting but like halfing and thirting in quarter bring

1676
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:04,119
the audience into these weird positions where it's like who

1677
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,199
who wait, but the bad guy almost has too much

1678
01:35:07,239 --> 01:35:10,760
of a point. And then yes, like the Internet where

1679
01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:12,560
they go, well, see him punk came back and see

1680
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,880
him punk one? Are we happy to see see him punk? No,

1681
01:35:16,199 --> 01:35:20,840
he's oh cogan, look he's o coged, And it's like, okay, sure,

1682
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:24,279
I bet you guys thought that Sammy Zane was gonna

1683
01:35:24,279 --> 01:35:30,079
have a long fucking title run stop stop it was.

1684
01:35:30,319 --> 01:35:33,600
It was not a matter of when Sammy was going

1685
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,000
to lose the belt or how quickly he was going

1686
01:35:36,079 --> 01:35:37,760
to lose the belt. It was honestly a game of

1687
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,800
like butt to who that's really where it was. No

1688
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,560
one was sitting there going so Sammy's going to carry

1689
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:48,800
this belt into twenty twenty seven. Nobody thought that they

1690
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,920
knew he was gonna lose it quick. It was just

1691
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,479
is there going to be Cody, Is there gonna be

1692
01:35:53,560 --> 01:35:56,720
Punk or is it gonna be Oba Like we knew

1693
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,840
it was going so this idea once again of it.

1694
01:36:00,319 --> 01:36:03,920
Here comes see him Punk returning and he's just taking

1695
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,399
the belt away from the guys. It's like, well, that's

1696
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:10,079
also in wrestling, how we treat people.

1697
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:13,199
Speaker 3: Didn't even have a chance. People didn't even have a chance.

1698
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:19,439
I don't know, man, it's just so so fast, too fast.

1699
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,359
Give him a month or two, that's all.

1700
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,239
Speaker 2: Well, this is where we end up in the same

1701
01:36:26,279 --> 01:36:30,920
place though, where when you give the when you give

1702
01:36:31,039 --> 01:36:36,800
the real underdog babyface the title, then you end up

1703
01:36:36,800 --> 01:36:39,920
in this position with well we didn't then give them

1704
01:36:40,079 --> 01:36:42,720
enough or we didn't give them enough time. I mean

1705
01:36:43,039 --> 01:36:45,600
the way that this is a perfect example, the way

1706
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:48,359
KOVI you lost that belt, I have him brought, come

1707
01:36:48,399 --> 01:36:51,359
out and just butt fuck him to death. Not great,

1708
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:56,439
not great. But then also at the same time you go, okay, well,

1709
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:58,640
how are you gonna get this fuck? You're gonna get

1710
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:01,279
this fucking belt off? What were you going to do?

1711
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,319
Who was going to take it from him, and I

1712
01:37:04,399 --> 01:37:07,079
think KOFE had like what three months maybe with the

1713
01:37:07,119 --> 01:37:10,439
title Yeah, And it's like, okay, well the Kovie had

1714
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,920
the bell for three months and yeah, YadA, And it's like, okay,

1715
01:37:13,279 --> 01:37:15,720
could they have gotten three months out of Sammy's ain?

1716
01:37:16,079 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh easy.

1717
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: It's a chicken shit running away from everybody that would

1718
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,239
have been that would have been his deal, Sammy's towns

1719
01:37:24,279 --> 01:37:26,319
it enough Like this is not like a problem that

1720
01:37:26,399 --> 01:37:29,039
I have with Sammy. It's an issue that I have

1721
01:37:29,279 --> 01:37:33,399
with can they would they should? Like could they pull

1722
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:37,279
off something interesting with him? And I think that he

1723
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,000
could take anything they have and make it worthwhile.

1724
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:46,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just yeah, yeah, That's one other thing

1725
01:37:46,399 --> 01:37:48,039
I wanted to bring up before you're ready to wrap

1726
01:37:48,119 --> 01:37:51,600
this up. That John Sena's shirt right so in the middle,

1727
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,720
and I know I'm just segueing out of the thing,

1728
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:59,079
but the John Sena's shirt that WWE designed after John

1729
01:37:59,159 --> 01:38:02,159
Cena left. Do you see that shirt picking there? It

1730
01:38:02,319 --> 01:38:05,840
is the greatest, Like you think back and all the

1731
01:38:06,039 --> 01:38:11,079
wild and wacky logos and colors and everything else that

1732
01:38:11,319 --> 01:38:14,279
WWE has done over the years for John Cena's merch

1733
01:38:14,399 --> 01:38:17,920
that John Cena clearly had a hand and what he

1734
01:38:18,039 --> 01:38:21,039
wanted his march to look like. Now that John Cena's

1735
01:38:21,079 --> 01:38:28,520
retired an impact font, it just says John Cena on

1736
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:34,479
a black shirt. That's it. Yeah, Like they have absolutely

1737
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,680
no creativity that all they did was put John Cena

1738
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,520
on a black shirt. That's what.

1739
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 2: He's a bad and you're like he's a bad guy,

1740
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,239
and it's like, no, it's actually kind of great. I

1741
01:38:45,399 --> 01:38:51,560
like it. I must say this too about Sena his

1742
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,560
fucking I'm starting to like Morse John Cena movies than

1743
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,479
John Cena matches. Oh, I don't know if that's a problem.

1744
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:02,079
I watched the new movie on Netflix when he did

1745
01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:04,640
with Eric Andre, which I'm not even like a big

1746
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,119
Eric Andre guy. I didn't watch the whatever it was

1747
01:39:08,199 --> 01:39:11,600
at the Eric Yeah, I didn't watch any of that.

1748
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,279
I don't really know much about him.

1749
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 3: Like it's not like his co host. You loved his

1750
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:18,399
co host?

1751
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:23,800
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, yeah yeah, I forgot about that, but no,

1752
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:27,399
like I didn't know much about him. But I was like, oh, yeah,

1753
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,039
I've I've seen him around. I think he's kind of funny.

1754
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,760
And I watched the movie and I was like, this

1755
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:37,199
is another Johns Like there's now probably five or six

1756
01:39:37,399 --> 01:39:41,079
John Cena movies that I really enjoyed. Like I sat

1757
01:39:41,159 --> 01:39:43,399
down and watched him. I was like, that was fun

1758
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:48,319
and I had a good time watching it. And I

1759
01:39:48,359 --> 01:39:51,560
don't know, like I like comedic actor John Cena in

1760
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:55,279
many respects, almost more than I like wrestler John Cena.

1761
01:39:55,319 --> 01:39:58,640
At this point, for all the talk of people being like, well,

1762
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,640
I may you know seen it was back, or we

1763
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:02,720
wish we had him or blah blah, I'm like, dude,

1764
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,760
if he keeps coming out with a movie like this

1765
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:08,840
every four months, for me, I'm plenty happy with that.

1766
01:40:09,359 --> 01:40:12,479
I'm I'm enjoying that. It's making me like him more

1767
01:40:13,119 --> 01:40:16,720
than I did when he was beating up fucking Wade

1768
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,640
Barrett for four fucking years. Like I'm like, this is

1769
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,920
this is more my pace, I guess, But yeah, I

1770
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,000
don't know. That's that's a good You know what, dude.

1771
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,880
The best thing about that shirt man is I don't

1772
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:33,199
know how somebody could even bootleg that. Yeah, that's such

1773
01:40:33,279 --> 01:40:33,800
an original.

1774
01:40:37,359 --> 01:40:39,399
Speaker 3: I love it though. I love it because you know

1775
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,840
what it is. It is the perfect level of creativity

1776
01:40:44,239 --> 01:40:47,560
that you except met from TKO In twenty twenty six. Yeah,

1777
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,720
I'm serious, Like, if you really want to stick it

1778
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:56,720
to wwe buy those shirts by buy the shirts that

1779
01:40:56,960 --> 01:41:02,399
everybody can make a home. You know, I know I

1780
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:02,760
like it.

1781
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,520
Speaker 2: Thank you to uh who did that ethel in there?

1782
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,800
It's like, yeah, just put that on Pro Wrestling tease.

1783
01:41:11,239 --> 01:41:16,720
Yeah I called them methyls Yeah cold cold hi ethel

1784
01:41:17,399 --> 01:41:19,800
h Yeah. Well, you know, I guess we could just

1785
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,720
say that Monday Night Row wasn't the worst it was.

1786
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,520
It was okay, but it gets but it still has

1787
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,039
its moments. I guess where you know that's it's funny.

1788
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:35,239
It's just funny, not good, not bad.

1789
01:41:35,359 --> 01:41:38,199
Speaker 3: It's not good. No, no, it's not good. But if

1790
01:41:38,279 --> 01:41:41,720
you're watching it to laugh at it, the product is great.

1791
01:41:42,359 --> 01:41:43,439
The show has been great.

1792
01:41:44,079 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 2: Just if you if you want to, yeah, if you

1793
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,439
if you're looking at it as a parody, right, then

1794
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,920
it's then it's pretty. It's pretty. So it's a parody.

1795
01:41:54,039 --> 01:41:57,239
And then occasionally some people show up that you find

1796
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:01,600
funny or interesting, and uh, yeah, them's the breaks.

1797
01:42:02,279 --> 01:42:05,920
Speaker 3: Watch love Everyone See you Thursday. Yeah, it's a.

1798
01:42:07,359 --> 01:42:11,319
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1799
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:16,039
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