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have a little bit of an ashing teeth. But all
things considered, I think there are some silver linings coming
out of the loss to Texas Tech. It was unfortunate
the form and fashion which BYU lost that game, but
you were on the road, all eyes were on you,
Game day was there, and you went up.
Speaker 3: Against the top five team.
Speaker 4: I think, truly, after watching this team and seeing them
pretty much fully healthy, Baron Morton a little bit tinged
up with that tivial stress reaction. He's not as maybe
fleet of foot as he was at the beginning of
the year, but he's been suffering through injuries all season long,
and he was still ripping it, still chucking it downfield
and taking advantage of one on one opportunities. In BYU's
defensive cs were sometimes up to the task and other
times they were not. This Texas Tech team is the
real deal. They are extremely good defense. That is maybe
the best defense in college football, and the payroll would
necessitate such efficiency in my opinion. From that defense and
NBO's offense and special teams, didn't look so good.
Speaker 3: Excuse me. Special teams in offense didn't look good at all.
Speaker 4: And the defense I thought, and actually they actually played
pretty much thing well all things considered.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna grade it all out.
Speaker 4: We're gonna dissect it all and break it all down
here on your UTAI ESPN Radio network. I do believe
we can find some silver linings in all of this
is the good, the bad, the beautiful, and the ugly.
Coming off a loss, a twenty two point loss, not
too shabby considering the scoring margin, the win margins versus
versus other teams that Texas Tech has has faced, especially
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Speaker 3: We've got Ronald three man Weaver, Ronnie. How you living
living good?
Speaker 5: Ben?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I will officially say at Texas Tech is the best
team in the Big twelve, just like last year Arizona
State was no denying that, not gonna say that BYU
right now is second best and unless you win the
conference titles. So look when you allocate the dollars and
it shows up. I said this last week. I'll see
it again. Max Olson interviewed the Texas Tech GM. They
said they're getting their moneys worth than they really are.
They proved it on Saturday. So Tim Bhatt, that's the
best team right now.
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, they are the best team.
Speaker 4: And we're gonna tell you what BA you needs to
do going forward as they face off, and it's the
horn Frogs at home Cincinnati in and away Shetting and
then welcome the UCF to have a season finale at
Lavelle Edwards Citia.
Speaker 3: Let's also welcome to the show. We got Hammer time,
Brett always bringing the hammer. How that allre you, Brett Hammer.
I think Texas Tech.
Speaker 7: Might be the best defense in college football. Yeah, like
I think every team in college football.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Offensively, it would depend on what Baron Morton I think
looked like. But there's no question defensively Texas Tech could
hang with any offense in the entirety of the country.
And so I think when you put it in that context,
you say, okay, BYU didn't. It didn't look like in
FBS team playing an FCS team. It certainly didn't look good.
It didn't look great, but it does give you hope
that if they fix some things, this is a game
in the Big twelve title that is winnable. But again,
there have to be some things fixed. But all in all,
you played against the best defense in the all of
college football, and Tech Tech deserves a lot of credit.
Speaker 3: For what they did on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Per sp plus, an efficiency metric that I really do
lean into. I think Bill Connley does a tremendous job
with his algorithm. I think it's a fair efficiency and
productivity rating and ranking. Texas Tech is number five, but
number five in the nation on defense. Number one is
actually the Ohio State, Okay, Number two is Oregon, Number
three is Oklahoma. Indiana is at number four, and then
number five is Texas Tech. Now, overall the complete sp
plus ranking Texas Tech number four. I do think Texas
Tech is a top five team college football.
Speaker 3: I just do.
Speaker 4: And what's crazy is their special teams showed up in
this game too significantly fantastically. They were ranked the eightieth
best special teams unit and it was their weak spot
on their team heading into the BYU game. They are
now forty first in special teams efficiency after one game
versus a top ten foe in BYU. So they were
really good BYU. Their special teams unit not so good.
Their offensive productivity and efficiency not so good. We're gonna
delve into it all the news and notes, getting into
all the soundbites as well.
Speaker 3: Here on your UTAI ESPN Radio network.
Speaker 4: We're gonna get a Kaloni Satake post game commentary first
and foremost in the nitty gritty, Stay tuned as we
read between the lines and that nitty gritty Chase Roberts
commentary as well as Jack Kelly. Jack Kelly and Jacob
Rodrigez Okay, the two best players on that football field
that was all to watch.
Speaker 3: Jack Kelly was a beast.
Speaker 4: As Kirk Herbstreet put it, he's single handedly keeping BYU.
And I wouldn't say that that's an accurate depiction. The defense,
I think as a whole was good, but Jack Kelly
was fantastic. When that man is healthy, and I think
Jay Hill, in his pregame interview said Jack Kelly's as
healthy as he's been pretty much all season long. That
bye week was a boon for BYU and Jack Kelly,
but he was balling. Now Rodriguez, I mean, he's in't
maybe in a league of his own. If you had
a choice, you know, do you want Jack Kelly or
do you want Rodriguez? There are two different types of players.
I think rodrig is probably a little bit better in coverage,
but even the juggernaut Jack Kelly was looking pretty good
in coverage down the sideline, galloping in essentially a trail
man technique press man technique. He looked fantastic out of
PBu by the way, on a fade route versus a
very good running back at Texas Tech.
Speaker 7: I think that BYU's greatest strength is also their greatest weakness.
Here's what I mean, Isaiah Glasker and Jack Kelly when
they rush the passer man, did you see I don't
know if it was Cameron Dickey, but there were a
couple plays there where the running back tried to step
up and chip block the linebacker coming through, and Jack
Kelly and Isaiah Glasker put the guy on the floor
every single time. And it's a bummer because they're so
good in pass coverage and they're so good from the
linebackers stopping the run that you have to really grapple with, well,
do we send him every time or we put them
back in coverage And unfortunately, especially with the Chay Bryant
Strather injury, I think if he was healthy, you would
be able to send them a lot more, if you'd
feel a lot more comfortable with that linebacker depth. And
I think, frankly, I think they're better in pass rush
just because I think the pass rush is good but
it's not great. They make it great and I think
when your pass rush is great, your defense is better. Overall,
I still think the defense played incredible on Saturday. I
think if by you could send them more often that
would be more beneficial.
Speaker 3: But either way, defense played great as.
Speaker 7: A whole, and man, Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glaska are
scary when they're getting after.
Speaker 4: The quarterback, no doubt about it. It was impressive to watch.
And the one defensive play that I just want to
have back is that second and twenty when we dropped
eight and just didn't make a play at that second level.
If I was to take one play back, ah man,
I want that play back and maybe put some pressure
on Baron Morton in that situation, But hindsight's twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: It always is.
Speaker 4: Good to look back and evaluate and critique, etc. We'll
do that today here on your Utah ESPN Radio network.
So we also have Kevin Young postgame commentary as BYU
basketball completely annihilated Holy Cross. He was great to see
this team come together. The bad news though, Nate Pickens
out for the season. We found out over the weekend,
and he was supposed to be a key cog. How
does that impact the rotation? Who's willing and ready to
step up? Who will fill the shoes of a tenured
vet in college basketball that was supposed to be a
a big piece of this b YU men's basketball team
as they try to break the curse of being the
team that has gone to the NCAA Tournament more than
any other team without a Final Four appearance.
Speaker 3: We'll get into that.
Speaker 4: Tim Brown will join us Tanner Wall commentary, Brady Papina
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Kialani said, take BYU head coach. This was his opening
statement after the Texas Tech loss.
Speaker 9: Okay, well, start disappointed about the loss, but uh, you
know there's a congratulations aid Texas Tech coach Maguire had
his guys ready to play, and you.
Speaker 1: Know they did did a good job holding us off.
Speaker 9: And trying to when we're trying to make a run
and trying to get the momentum switch. We weren't able
to do that. But I'm proudly guys. The guys played hard.
We just didn't do enough against a really good team.
I mean, there's a really good team at home, and
they found a way to play better than we did.
But this is gonna be a great experience for us
to learn from and we look forward to getting better
from now until next week when we end up at
home and against TCU.
Speaker 1: But we had to give them a lot of credit.
Speaker 9: I thought TCU did a good job and possessed the ball,
you know, and made some big plays, especially the looking
at the big plays that happened on defensive defensively, we're
doing pretty good jobs.
Speaker 1: The big players. We gave up, you know, a couple.
Speaker 9: Of passes and the run and a muff punt costs
cost us I think thirteen points, you know. And so
even with that thought we were able. So we're going
to respond and come back and make it a game
in the second half, and we weren't able to do
that because of what Texas Tech was able to do.
I mean, they have a really good team and they're
one of the best teams in the country, and this
was a good experience for us. Let's go through and
we'll learn from this and we'll be a better team
from it and make sure that we get better next
week and perform better. But is my job as a
head coach and make sure that we're playing at our best.
I don't want to say that we didn't play at
our best. I just say that Texas Tech make things difficult.
Really good, good team, well coached and a lot of
great players. But we will be back and we'll find
a way to improve and find a way to play
better next week.
Speaker 4: Gonna look to the positive here, Klonie, always keeping it positive.
Disappointed obviously in the effort in the execution from probably's
offense and special teams unit.
Speaker 3: But try to keep positive.
Speaker 4: We'll be back, right, And that's been kind of like
the rheter coming from Chase Roberts and Tanner Wall and
Kialan's like we will be back, and even the Texas
Tech football players. Apparently we're saying that to BYU football players. Hey,
we'll see in the next couple of weeks. You wonder
is BYU truly are you cougarnation. Do you believe that
BYU is the second best team in the Big twelve?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: That to me is the biggest question, Like if I'm
gonna ask the Cougar fans any one thing, do you
believe after what you saw versus text, what you've been
seeing within the Big twelve that BYU is the second
best team in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna put that out there as a poll of
the day.
Speaker 4: Get your thoughts, because they do think there are some
BO fans that don't believe they are the second best
team now, Like I think they're having a little bit
of an Needer regression going into the Texas to that game.
I think they believe, like we are the second best team.
Speaker 3: In the Big twelve.
Speaker 4: We will leave that we beat Utah, right, We've won
all of our close games. We won on the road
versus Iowa State, Like, we find ways to win. We're
a complimentary football team. And because of that complimentary style football,
great leadership, great grit, and and and our execution within
our schemes, we find a way to win, and we
are the second best team. I don't know if everyone
believes that now in Cougar Country, after that loss. Let's
get back to killane. What do you attribute the struggles
in the run game too.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they were one of the best defenses in the
country and and we knew would be tough sledding, but
they got us behind the chains a little bit, and
you know, weren't able to take advantage. I mean, they're
really good at that, taking advantage of third third downs,
and we weren't able to do it. And then on the
other side, we gave up to many big plays on
third down. And you know, the first half was back
and forth a little bit, but we gave up thirteen points,
had a good stop at the end of the half there,
and thought we were able to get some momentum, even
started by forcing a punt in the second half, and
just weren't able to get get the momentum swing in
our way. Weren't able to get get any things going
on offense, and then that was a struggle, and then
special teams wasn't really an advantage for us.
Speaker 1: I thought they thought they executed.
Speaker 9: Their plan, did a great job and uh and did
a great job getting the victory.
Speaker 1: You know, congratulations to them. I thought their fans were awesome.
Speaker 9: We're good advantage and and made a lot of noise
and made things difficult. But uh, it's all the stuff
that we expected. You know, it just didn't work out
our favor. My job as head coaches find out how
we can get better from this and make sure that
I get the team ready next time. But you know, obviously,
though the players work hard, I just gotta get them
ready and make sure that we've reperformed next time.
Speaker 4: Gotta find a way to continue to win, to stay
on track. Keep first things in, the best things first,
keep the main thing, the main thing. You can't win,
My buddy, my buddy Keith was just said, you can't
win against one of the best teams in college football
by turning the ball over three times.
Speaker 3: What I said, like, no, you're not gonna win.
Speaker 4: You should have had a couple of takeaways yourself, though,
Like how many missed opportunities did b Yu's defense have
or the special teams unit.
Speaker 3: Have for that matter, You had a few. You probably
could have got two back.
Speaker 4: You should have got at least two back, and you
probably shouldn't have given up the punt return. So even
if you would have been at equivalency and the turnof
our margin was zero.
Speaker 3: Do you win this game though, like if the.
Speaker 4: Turno march is at zero, Like, I don't know if
you win this game even with the turnable margin being
zero and your your side your your side to side
equivalent in takeaways and turnovers, Like I don't know if
if a short field would have led to touchdowns for
this by offense, they really could not move the ball
until they went tempo spread and they got a touchdown
with what seven minutes were mating in the fourth quarter,
they went tempo spread, and they they started throwing it
a little bit more?
Speaker 3: Why don't you think they did that early?
Speaker 7: Like, I'm sure there's a nuance in this, but all
the fans were like, why didn't they just do that
the whole game?
Speaker 3: And I had that question as well.
Speaker 7: And and I think for fans it's easy to say, well,
if they just score on that, and if they would
have done that the whole game, they would have just
won the game.
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's that simple. I think there's
more nuanced to that.
Speaker 7: So why don't you think they did that more throughout
the game.
Speaker 3: You have an identity.
Speaker 4: Through practice and through personnel acquisition that you've built from
last year the year before, into the off seat, into
the season like this team and Kirk kirkstreet Stead he
is like, what does by you want to do offensively?
They want to go slow, mundane, monotonous, and possess the ball.
They want to be able to run the ball and
go play action. You've brought up the PFF stats BYU
threw eight weeks right. Nine weeks was one of the
best play action football teams in college football.
Speaker 3: But they're not great in the dropback passing game. They're not.
Speaker 4: They haven't Doctor Jekyl and mister Hyde, so they haven't
been right.
Speaker 3: And so it's like, that's been your identity.
Speaker 4: Now you went up against one of the best teams
in college football top five and and maybe the best
defense in college football, and so yeah, you may have
wanted to try something different prior to the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: So I'm okay with that criticism.
Speaker 4: I'm okay with with you saying, hey, we probably should
have tried that maybe a little bit sooner in the
second half. They didn't, and that's maybe on a rod.
But at the same time, that's been your identity. And
up to that point, going into this game, b YU
was top twenty five in offensive efficiency per sp plus
so like like that that that that's why right, Like
like I said, I would have liked a more expeditious,
you know, implementation of trying tempo spread and and maybe
throwing the ball a little bit more. Uh, but it
didn't happen, and maybe lesson learned and now they can
go into this this next week. Hopefully you beat TC,
Hopefully you beat Cincinnati. Hopefully you beat UCF and you
can face Texas Tech again in the Big twelve championship game.
Hopefully you get that opportunity. But if you look too
far ahead, you may you may f around and find out.
You may mess around and find out. So keep keep
the task at hand in front of you, no doubt
about it. Ronald, did you want to chime in? I
don't know if you whispered in my ear?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think ben. I went back and I did
the math because you know, I like the numbers. Even
if buyu Been doesn't give up those points. Let's say,
you know, because it was ten that was allocate with
all of the mess ups and what they could have allocated,
so you keep them ten less points, so it's nineteen.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 6: Let's say you get two field goals out of that,
you're still losing that game by three points. If you
get field goals on the Trey Alexander interception and Evan
Johnson and let's say you get the touchdown that's thirteen
to not like, you're still losing thirteen to nineteen. You're
still losing a one score game. So they don't do
it still, And that just speaks to how good this
Texas Tech defense is. It is the best in college football.
I think they can have at it with Georgia and Alabama.
That says a lot. I'll say, maybe not them, but
like they're up there, no doubt about it.
Speaker 8: Ben So they wouldn't have got close.
Speaker 6: Even going back and doing the math bo, you would
have had to score two touchdowns out two turnovers. And
with the way the game went and with LGMRT being dinged,
it just it was a it was a tall order already.
Then you add the circumstances that happened. That was the
best case scenario that bay you lost that game by
But shout out to the defense.
Speaker 8: They kept a minute for as long as they could been.
Speaker 4: Let's get back to the sound Kaladia Shataca. Only ten
carries were giving to LJ. Martin, was he not healthy
enough to get more well?
Speaker 9: I think I mean at the beginning where we were
trying to get some some.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he can take.
Speaker 9: And carry the ball more, but we're trying to work
him into it. We knew that that he wouldn't be
able to be full strength, but we needed him in
some fashion and we were to get some some yardage
at the beginning. We just got to keep plugging away.
You have to give them credit. They're committed to stopping
the run. And then in the past game, we weren't
able to make things happening enough. And you know, the
turnovers were at issue, and we had a muff punt
and the interception and the fumble of is a lateral play,
so that that doesn't help you either. And just really
couldn't get things generated good, getting any momentum, any positive
things going on the offensive side. But we just keep working.
I neither give credit to Texas Tech and what they
were able to do. I can't sit there and say like, oh,
we didn't do this to do that. So that's a
really good team and tough team. All we have to
do is learn from it. Is a is a tough experience,
but it would be a great learning experience for all
of us.
Speaker 3: So LJ had his shoulder injury, right, we know that.
Speaker 4: I think one of the first plays that he ended
up toting, he actually got hit, you know, on that shoulder.
It could have disrupted something, you know, And if he
goes back to the sideline, he's like, you know, cringing
a little bit.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: That can maybe limit the amount of reps they're gonna
give him because right off the bat, you've already aggravated
that shoulder that has been braced and and maybe rehabbed.
Speaker 3: Over a two week period. So I think that has
something to do with it.
Speaker 4: Lj's not gonna run as aggressively being injured in his
upper body, just won't. I think we've seen that in
games prior last year. I remember he was a little
bit deemed up with his ankle and it really didn't
get back running as aggressively till very much later on
in the season. So I asked g Man one time,
I was like, is he a finesse runner or is
he more of like a physical bruiser, And he said
he's a physical bruiser. I think it's like, I don't
think he's a finesse runner, but I don't think he's
like a physically like like violent runner. I don't think
he's a violent runner, I guess, is what I'm saying.
And so he's kind of a tweener for me. He's
a big body that runs with probably finessing Break's arm tackles, right,
but he's not a run through your face guy. He's
not that Marshawn Lynch just like run through your face guy.
Even if he's got like a bruised shoulder, a separated shoulder.
Speaker 3: Like that, He's just not gonna be that guy.
Speaker 4: And so they're gonna be judicious about how they utilize
him and where they utilize him. And I think that's
one of the reason why they only give him ten toats.
And they were trying to get Bear involved. Bear was
not effective. It was one of his worst rushing performances
of the year. You have to go back to Stanford
and in that game, I can't remember what the game
plan was, but there wasn't a whole lot of maybe
Bear Bachmeyer QB.
Speaker 3: Designed run in that game. Anyway, they struggled.
Speaker 4: They struggled, and you got to give kudos to one
of the best defensive fronts in football as well.
Speaker 7: I think the hard part for me is I don't
think LJ being hurt was the reason you lost the game. Like,
even if Lj's healthy, I think the outcomes still plays
out very similarly because Texas Tech was basically daring BYU.
Speaker 3: They were saying, Hey, we're.
Speaker 7: Gonna load the box and we're gonna send guys up
through your line. You go ahead and try to throw
the ball on us, and they really couldn't. And so
I don't even know if LJ is healthy if YU
wins that game. And then again, more credit to the
Texas Tech linebackers. Usually Bear is big enough that he
can run through your team's linebackers, and we've seen that
all season, Like when he takes these draws, he's able
to carry some backers with him. That did not go
that way against Texas seth Jacob Rodriguez.
Speaker 3: They seemed like they took.
Speaker 4: A lot of third level defenders early on, were coming
hard right, and they like Bear is able to hit
a guy and get a couple of yards extra. Bear
would hit their guys and bounce backwards, and so it
just they took a lot of pride in making sure
that bear gave up no yards on the ground. Yeah,
how concerned are you getting back to number four, Kialdi,
how concerned are you with the slow starts?
Speaker 3: Right now? Offensively the slow starts become No, this is
a big twelve.
Speaker 1: They're really good teams and the Big twelve. You know,
I don't know a lot of teams.
Speaker 9: That are out there playing full strength and being fast,
starting fast and finished strong for sixty minutes. We might
have played one of those teams that did that, you know.
So it's we gotta keep working. I mean, it's not
like we can just We're going to gets really good teams, guys,
and this is a this is a.
Speaker 1: Difficult place to play.
Speaker 9: And you know, it was a really cool experience being
in Luwock and being being in front of the fans,
and so you know, it's a really good home advantage
for them. But what we didn't do enough of the
little things to put ourselves in a position to have
to have a victory.
Speaker 3: Really good teams, yeah, no doubt, really good teams. You
got to do everything right on the road.
Speaker 4: Versus the top ten, top five opponent, Kalate number five,
what do you think of the play calling on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Anything you wish you would have done differently.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I always want to score points, So that's gonna
be the goal. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of
things that we're whether we win or lose, we're always
going to try to find ways to learn and get better,
and so this is the approach. Will stay of the
same to try to get better. But I only know
one way and that's going to work, you know. So
our guys are committed to work and hard. We'll get
back at it. And congratulations of Texas Tech, but we
got to get back to work and find ways to improve.
Speaker 3: How would you assess number six?
Speaker 4: How would you assess Bear Bachmeyer's play versus Tech on
the road?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's going against one of the best defenses in
the country, and I think they made things difficult for him.
But you know, we can't just blame it on one guy.
He's got to see what the other ten guys are
doing on the field. And then didn't really give much
compliment on special teams and defense to helping him with
short fields and things like that, and so there's a
lot of things that go.
Speaker 1: Into play here.
Speaker 9: But I appreciate Bear's attitude and it's willing to to learn.
We've talked about how he wants to get better, and
so this is a great moment for him to get
better between now and and next week. And we're still
in a position where we because we work hard and
had some success earlier in the year, that we can I mean,
that's not our best ball. I don't think it's our
best ball, and we can play better than that. So
I need to make sure I get these guys ready
for the next time.
Speaker 4: So Bear Bogmeyer twenty three to thirty eight and eight yards,
one touchdown, one eye in t sixty one percent completion
percentage one on five point five QB rating. He also
had a lateral that ended up, I guess being a
fumble and recovery by Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: But his left guard decided not to block.
Speaker 4: Anybody either on that play, so that that one hurt
shot through the heart as g Man likes to say,
and his left guard was too late. But yeah, look,
Bear was was fine. He wasn't dominant by any means.
Eleven attempts, twelve yards. He's probably got to get linear.
If you're gonna have any sort of critique barrier your
two hundred and thirty five pounds, and there was There
was a couple of things here. Playing on turf is
different than playing on natural grass. Especially we're playing against
very good athletes that are familiar with their turf surface.
The team speed of Texas Tech was completely and utterly
on display. Every time bear tucked and ran, he would
get hit at the line of scrimmage or right beyond
the line of scrimmage, and sometimes in front of the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: So they were.
Speaker 4: Reading and reacting. And this is not just second level defenders.
This is not just linebackers that I'm talking about, Like
third level defenders were coming down and hitting, engaging, styming
bear Bachmeyer at the line of scrimmage and just beyond
the line of scrimmage. So and part of that had
to do with their team speed, and part of it
had to do with bear Bachmeyer's weaving. And you gotta
love the weave. You gotta love the patients. It has
helped and aided by you at times. But at other times,
like when you're on your home field, you got the
competitive advantage, you know the playing surface, you got your
the right on your opponent does not Utah, go back
and watch the Utah game.
Speaker 3: Utah was slipping and sliding all over the football field. Okay,
they just.
Speaker 4: Were and and and in this game, Dexas deck was
not slipping the slide nowhere. Like they were surefooted, and
they were freaking athletic. They were fast, they were physical,
and they were assignment sound and gap sound. They were great.
And so Bear probably just needs to choose to get
linear and try to not take on any head on
collisions because you can get injured that way.
Speaker 3: But but that's what I would advise.
Speaker 4: You got to know your your your team that you're
going against and in the playing surface and just how
athletic they are, and then adapt to that that that position.
But I wouldn't have like if Bear's able to run
the ball a little bit more effectively because that win
b way at the game.
Speaker 3: No, but it puts us in a little bit better position.
Speaker 4: Like there's a lot of things to critique here, a
lot of things to dissect. That's this is one of many.
This is maybe a minor to moderate adjustment on the
road on turf versus a top of five defense. But
it's not like I'm being hypercritical or I'm not trying
to be hypercritical Does that make sense?
Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent. And we talked about a lot
coming into the season. You can't expect Bear to win
you games. And there were a lot of games this
season where Bear did win you those games on his back.
This was absolutely not one that you could ask Bear
Bachmeyer to go out and win you If he did, awesome,
but you could not rely on him to win this game.
I think he gets a couple of excuses to say, hey.
Speaker 3: You know what, he's a true freshman.
Speaker 7: He hasn't played against a top ten team on the
road in college football in his true freshman year.
Speaker 3: That was this game.
Speaker 7: And he's gonna learn from those things, and I imagine
when he gets a scenario like this again.
Speaker 3: He will improve.
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the day. We still have high hopes despite losing to
Texas Tech by twenty two points.
Speaker 7: In the words of the Great Mike Tyson, everyone's got
a plan until they get punched in the face. And
on Saturday BYU got punched in the mouth on the
road at Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: And I think there are a lot of fans who.
Speaker 7: Freaked out a little bit because you know you're finally
experiencing loss this season.
Speaker 3: It's not something that BOYU.
Speaker 7: Has really experienced a lot recently, especially of this magnitude.
You have to go back to that Iowa State game
to find a loss on the scale of this. But
you know what, just because you lost like that does
not mean the seasons over BYU is favored in their
games the rest of the way. If they win the
rest of the way, they get to the Big Twelve
title and then they get to play the final boss
again in Texas Tech in that Big Twelve championship and
then determine the rest of their destiny.
Speaker 3: So all is not lost.
Speaker 7: We still have high hopes for a very good BYU
football team.
Speaker 4: Texas Tech is six and one, five than won Cincinnati
five and one, Houston five and two, Utah four and
two in Arizona State four and two in Big Twelve play.
So on the docket for Cincinnati they have U.
Speaker 3: Of A at.
Speaker 4: Home, They have BYU at home, and then they head
out to TCU on November twenty ninth, so could be
a loss or two on that schedule. Utah faces Baylor.
They're at Baylor on November fifteenth. They have a bye
week this week, I believe, and then they take on
Kansas State at home, and then they're at Kansas to
finish the season. Houston they face off against. They actually
had a bye week this week, and then TCU.
Speaker 3: At home and then at Baylor.
Speaker 4: They got two games remaining as well, and we know
BYU has TCU at home, then Cincinnati on the road,
and then UCF at home.
Speaker 7: You know what's interesting, you know who else UCF plays
the rest of their schedule. They played Tech Tech and UCF.
I know four and five doesn't scream incredible to everyone,
but they actually do have a sneaky good defense.
Speaker 3: They don't give up a lot of points.
Speaker 7: Now they don't score a lot of points either, but
they don't give up a whole lot.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying by any means that UCF is going
to go into Lubbock and beat Texas Tech. I'm just
saying there was no world in which I thought ASU
was gonna beat Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: UCF maybe is a trap game.
Speaker 7: Maybe Texas SEP's coming off their high hopes from what
they did to BYU and Lubbock. Maybe UCF gives them
a run for their money. But both TCU and UCF
have the chance to ruin somebody's season going down the
rest of the way.
Speaker 4: My question of the day, Kugarnation, is what silver linings
are there in this Texas Tech game? I think there's
a few. You know, we'll get back to Kalanie Schatake
down here momentarily. But for me, as I view Texas Tech,
they're they're They're a really good football team, a top
five football team. They got one lost versus a Issue
on the road by four points, and it came down
to Will Hammond ultimately trying to win the game for
Texas Tech the backup quarterback that has now injured and
out for the season, a true freshman quarterback, by the way.
Speaker 3: So that's what happened.
Speaker 4: Okay, every other game this year they have won Texas
Tech by thirty three points on average, and their smallest
win margin was actually against.
Speaker 3: BYU on their home field.
Speaker 4: So they were in Lubbick, Okay, in front of their
sixty thousand fans, and they beat BYU, yes, convincingly by
twenty two points.
Speaker 3: But Boy's defense kept BYU in this game.
Speaker 4: They really did like anything coulda happen, right, they could
have you know at least made it respectable.
Speaker 3: Respectable.
Speaker 4: So Texas Tech played on the road versus Utah, a
pretty guys staying good football team that the analytics like,
and beat them like a drum by twenty four points.
They beat Kansas State at Kansas State Okay, by twenty three.
They beat Houston at Houston by twenty four. Then they
beat Kansas at home by twenty five. Oregon stayed at
home by thirty one, Oklahoma State at home by forty two.
So like when you look at those, I was like, okay, Like,
well BYU didn't get beat as bad as everybody else.
Speaker 7: Texas Tech actually had a six game streak of scoring
forty points at home.
Speaker 4: And they've held them to their largest or their their
lowest point total twenty nine points. So that was the
tightest margin win of all the games and their lowest
point total offensively at twenty nine and BA, you coughed
the ball up three times, so you were minus three
internal mark Like to me, like, as I'm looking at them, like, okay,
it could have been much much worse and it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It definitely could have been and it probably should have.
Speaker 7: But this loss was just so uncharacteristic of BYU, like
Bear didn't really get going, Parker kinks special teams really
dropped the ball. The special teams, which we have campaigned
for on this show as maybe one of the sneaky
best weapons on this BYU football team, has been the
special teams unit, and they didn't show up. As Kalani
said earlier, this was an uncharacteristic loss for BYU. But
to your point, it could have been a lot worse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could have been a whole lot worse. It
really could have been. Ronald, you had a few silver linings.
What other silver linings did you take away from this game?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think the few silver linings you know that we
had discussed before our show was I think really Jack
Keilly and Isaiah Glasker, there's no doubt been they're getting drafted.
If you thought they weren't, if you had any hesitation,
we all knew it. But they're really I think raised
their draft stock. Look when these NFL scouts been you
sat next to NBA scouts, You've talked to some NFL scouts.
When you talk about players, they're looking for how they play.
It's not necessarily all with that team lost because if
that's the case, I mean BAU basketball, you know, when
they had lost Jego or might not have been drafted,
but what did he do. He performed in the biggest moments,
and that's what you're looking for in Jack and Isaiah
really got after Texas Tech, you know, and if this
offense is really as proficient as the numbers say, if
they're really that explosive, they limited him like he had
four sacks in the first half, and Jack and Isaiah
counted for individually both one of those.
Speaker 8: So I think they really did.
Speaker 6: And I think that's what you can hang your hat
on again, is that this BAU defense is phenomenal. And
I'm look, this might be more of alf D season discussion,
but having Noucy joined, having to Celia Kanna, I think
it's only gonna help linebackers in the country, you know,
because we talk about Brax and Lindzu's a part of
twenty twenty six class. Linebackers don't want to come here,
that want to play and get to the next level.
Seeing Jack and Isaiah do what they're doing is just helping.
I think Jay Hills defense for further recruitment. And again,
this might be an off season conversation. But it's silver linings.
If you can hang your hat on the defense, they
can still leading GUIDs. You walk beside you like that
plug right there, and you can still Jack and Isaiah
glasc will help you find the way along with j Hill.
But I think this long term is that BYU is
showing a game why it's linebacker you and you're gonna
have two linebackers playing it to me at extremely high
level in the league, like Isaiah and Jack and Joy
Why you can ben because it might not be here
next season, even with them both being dinged up, they
might not come back.
Speaker 3: Still, well, some good silver linings, no doubt.
Speaker 4: It was a loss as a loss as a loss,
just like a winner's and winness a win, but a
few silver linings there. Let's get back to Kaladi'sataki commentary
post game after this loss number seven. What were the
issues with the special teams, particularly in the first half, Kalate,
what do you got for us?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean the muff punt was a big issue,
you know, but and then you know we had the
missfield goal stuff like that. There's a lot of characteristic
of us, So I think we had a punt that
was was it the first punt that, Yeah, I just
went off the side of our leg. So talking about
the field position, we didn't help ourselves at all. So
we didn't help Bear, We didn't help the offense. The
three phases didn't compliment each other. And when I say
all that, those are the mistakes like kicking it off
the side of your foot and making missing field those things.
Speaker 1: That's that stuff. We can control the other stuff.
Speaker 9: Texas Tech did a great job at controlling the game,
and that's just something that we need to get better
at doing ourselves. So I thought they played physical. We
liked the physical matchup.
Speaker 1: It just just.
Speaker 9: Things didn't work out our way and the momentum couldn't
We couldn't get it going.
Speaker 3: Just couldn't get it going. Number eight.
Speaker 4: What went into the discussion of punting on that fourth
down and not going for Yeah, it.
Speaker 9: Was like fourth and I mean we knew that we'd
have to rely on on size kick eventually, you know,
and try to do things. But we just felt like
that was trying to get the momentum to and try
to find ways to pin them deep.
Speaker 1: So that's the main reason why.
Speaker 4: Is probably because the strength of this team at least
in this game and has been two degree? Has it
was the defense, right, So let's let the defense go
out there and look how many opportunities were there to
get to get the ball away. Well, Trey could have
picked it off. Evan had an opportunity as well, had
he come back to the football. So you had opportunities
you just didn't seize the day you didn't carp a
DM number nine. Was this the first moment where you
felt like bear Bachmeyer was playing like a true freshman
in the moment?
Speaker 3: Was a bit too big?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 9: I felt like that since the beginning, you know. So
he's always been a true freshman. But he'll be fine. Well,
we will support him.
Speaker 1: We've got to.
Speaker 9: We've got to give him more more support to compliment
his skills in all three phases. So this is not
a one one phase in one player is the blame here.
Speaker 1: This is is anything. It's me.
Speaker 9: I'm the head coach, you know, So we'll find ways
to get better, and I'll find ways to get this
team and all three phases to compliment each other and
play better next time.
Speaker 4: Has he really looked like a true freshman this season?
Like at what point says says Bear Blackmeyer. Have you
looked at him and his decision making and the moment
has been too big for him outside of the Texas
Tech game.
Speaker 3: You know what's.
Speaker 7: Funny as I listen to that and as you say that,
the thought that comes to my mind is, I bet
you there's a lot of other quarterbacks in the Big
twelve who are not true freshmen, who probably when they
play at Lubbock, look like that.
Speaker 3: I haven't gone.
Speaker 7: Back through Texas Tech schedule, but I'd be willing to
bet there's other quarterbacks who looked exactly like Bear did
in that game.
Speaker 3: In fact, I'm probably pretty sure.
Speaker 7: I don't think Devin Dampier played that good against Texas
Tech when they played at the University of Utah. So
this is probably, I think we would all agree, his
lowest performance of the season, and I think this is
one where I'd be willing to play the you know what,
he's a true freshman card. You gotta let him have
this one. But outside of that, like he's been winning
you games late in the fourth quarter, gotta have it
type of moments and has shrugged off the true freshman tag.
Speaker 4: Just so you know, Devin damp here five to thirty
eight that game versus Texas Tech at home, one hundred
and sixty two yards, sixty five point eight percent completion percented,
zero touchdowns, two y and t's.
Speaker 3: He was shacked.
Speaker 4: Uh and then he had eleven carries twenty seven yards,
So like not much better, in fact, worse.
Speaker 3: Than some statistical categories. And he was at home at home.
Speaker 7: And he's not a true freshman now, which is weird
because I swear I read on Twitter that they were
gonna say that Devin damp Here was gonna win the Heisman.
Speaker 3: I'm still still waiting on that one.
Speaker 4: There's only a few, there are a vocal minority, hopefully
not the collective fan base believe that number ten. What's
Parker Kingston status. He looked a little banged up.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna be fine. They hit hard,
and I mean they hit him right in the is
a low shadows clean but is physical, so he'll he'll
be fine. But yeah, that was unfortunate, but that's the
games of a physical game.
Speaker 1: It happens.
Speaker 3: What do you got for me, Ronald the three man Weaver?
Speaker 6: Look, this is going back to last come before the
Parker Kingston. Yes, Texas Tech does hit hard hard, no doubt,
but BA you also it's hard. Look, Kilanian said he's
been saying all season that he's a freshman. But Ben,
look I I pull tape. I remember when Klanie said
he's not a true freshman, he's not that we can
take off that tax. So I'm not buying that. Ben,
I'm sorry, I gotta I gotta call Colonie out. I
love Klannie's great, but when you when you give me
tate and you said that, Look, now you can't jump
back to say, well, you know, I've been saying that
all year and he actually haven't though, Like that's what
You're gonna get caught up.
Speaker 8: And I have to have accountability, Like, look.
Speaker 6: I think it's okay to say whether he's a freshman
or not out it doesn't matter. Like, Okay, I got
some stats for you that might throw people off. Jalen
Daniels went twenty seven, thirty three and two touchdowns. You
know where he looked good?
Speaker 8: Ben, just a second quarter? You know what he looked
the rest of the game, goose eggs.
Speaker 6: The offense put up nothing like And that was Kansas,
a veteran team who has a worst record than by you,
by the way, coming into in Lubbock and didn't play well,
like yeah, maybe the second quarter and they kept it,
but what did they do in the second half?
Speaker 8: They shut him out. So look, that's just what Texas
Tech does.
Speaker 6: So it doesn't matter. I just wanted to give that
to give that balance of Colinie. But also it doesn't
matter if Bear even was a senior like Jalen Daniels
is a fiftieth senior Ben to look with what happened.
Speaker 8: They made him look small.
Speaker 6: That's just how it goes against this great Texas Tech defense.
So I don't think it matters what year in school
you are, if you have to go to Lubbick or
if they come to your town, you're not beating David
Bailey and Romelo Height.
Speaker 8: They're just they're nice like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder what the best I mean, I think
Sam Levitt probably had the best performance against this Tech defense.
Speaker 8: R Yeah, like.
Speaker 4: You know, if I pull up Sam's game log here,
let's see how how how he showcased his skills. Right,
if you're on twenty eight to forty seven, three hundred
and nineteen yards, fifty nine point six completion percentage, one
touchdown and he was sacked four times, and then he
ran the ball twelve times, but he was slinging it.
Speaker 3: He was he was ripping it. He looked good.
Speaker 4: There were two specific plays I think chunkyards plays that
if they.
Speaker 3: Don't execute in this game though.
Speaker 4: They were kind of like scrambles downfield, eyes downfield, and
he ripped one downfield as the as the wide receivers
got behind the coverage. But they were kind of broken
play scrambled drill type of situation. And unfortunately b Yu
doesn't have that. I'll be honest, like I know we
we all like Bears intermediate throwing ability, but I'm gonna
go back to what I talked about. I know I
got hate for it, like he does not have the
ability just to like to you don't have the ability
to go max pro and have him sit back there
for four or five seconds and then rip a sixty yarder.
Speaker 3: You just don't.
Speaker 4: He doesn't have that arm strength and so the ball
has to come out in about three one thousand on
time on kind of a rope, on all your vertical routes.
Speaker 3: He's he's an accurate intermediate to short thrower one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: But those double moves max pro scrambled drill where he's
he's elongating plays and can huck it downfield. Like that's
what I was maybe possibly hoping for in this game.
But everyone that I pinged on I said, hey, can
this happen? I try to go back and I try
to talk to people about this. I have my eyes,
I have my opinion, and then I throughout the season,
I'm like, am I seeing this correctly?
Speaker 3: Can we do this?
Speaker 4: And three different people that all had different perspectives on it,
are different vantage points. Rather, they all said, hey, he
just doesn't have the arm strike to do that. So
that's the nature of it. And Sam Levitt does Sam Levitt,
That's what those two There was two big plays in
this game that got him to those those numbers.
Speaker 6: But Ben also, if you look at the game too,
Arizona State, what didn't what They had three fumbles, but
they didn't lose the football and they took it away
from Texas Tech as well. So when you plus one
in the turnover a category, that does it. But I
have a question for you, Bred and I debated this.
I want to get your thoughts. Could Jake Retz left
have made more plays down the field. Maybe he doesn't
win this ball game, or maybe you know his aggressive decision,
but how would Jake haveb look, because Jake has a
strong armed and bear. In my opinion, I feel like
Jake could have pushed the ball vertical down the field
on this defense.
Speaker 8: But I could be wrong in that.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 4: We've had this debate, We've gone side by side. I
pulled Jake retz left stats from this year at Tulane
with the supporting cast that he has, etc. And playing
in the LL Lesser Conference, the American Athletic Conference, and
you compare that to currently what Bear Bachmeier has done,
and they were pretty similar, quite honestly, like they just
were other than Jake probably running for more yards and
had a few more explosive plays I would say, not
only on the ground but also through the air at times.
Speaker 3: They were pretty similar. When we've had.
Speaker 4: This debate, though, we all felt, what, hey, it's better
to have a true freshman that's not turning the ball
over than what we saw last year and even the
year prior with Jake, we automatically think that Jake wouldn't improved,
wouldn't have improved on his ball security, and even Jake
got benched versus UTSA late in that game because he
was kind of turning the ball over and they were
in the defense.
Speaker 3: Was just outmatch and they couldn't catch up.
Speaker 4: Now he came out and balled out versus Memphis once again,
what have we talked about with Jake Redslob His ceiling
can be extremely high. He believes he's Pat Mahomes and
there's sometimes he has throws that he just they are perfect.
They are glorious. Look go back and watch the ASU
second half before he threw the pick. What a performance
that was second half, Watch the first half of the
Baylor game, tremendous. You go back and you watch that
Memphis game and you see the potential of Jake Redslow
And it's not all that difficult to conclude that with
Jake's throwing ability, which he's got a better arm than Bear,
and his running ability he's more, he's faster than Bear,
he's not as physical as Bear, that he would have
given you a better opportunity to beat Texas Tech. Now,
does Jake automatically make you a winner in this game? No, no,
not at all, But yeah, he have given you a
better chance to win this game. Yeah, I think you
could conclude that if you see Jake at his best
right now, he's a he's a two year JUCO All American,
right and he had essentially two years of playing at BYU.
Speaker 3: Like, he's more experienced than Bear.
Speaker 4: He's got more reps than Bear, and he's faster and
he's got a stronger arm than Bear.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think you could make that conclusion.
Speaker 4: I think you could say, hey, he could have given
you a better opportunity, but he also could have turned
the ball over fifteen times, not that many, but you
know what I mean, he could have fumbled yeah more,
And I mean, look, it was a Texteck was at
home and they're their top five defense, they're a really
good football team, and we didn't take advantage of anything,
you know, through the air that Baron Morton, Like we
didn't sack strip, cause a fumble and scoop and score
on what did I say in the middle of the game,
Like we need a sack, strip, fumble, scoop and score,
Like we gotta find a way to score on defense
or on special teams because their offense is struggling right now.
And as we've the topic that we've broached, like our
drop back passing game hasn't been great.
Speaker 3: It just hasn't, even though we look good in tempo
and maybe.
Speaker 4: The drop back passing it's more judicious to go tempo
than it is traditional dropback coming out of a huddle.
If we go tempo drop back, maybe that's the that's
the key for Bear and this offense when we're struggling
with the run game and the play action game.
Speaker 3: Off of that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and there were also just some interesting play calls,
Like there was one of the early second and nine
that they were in. I'm watching and they have a
play where all the routes are run past the line
of scrimmage and it's like, Okay, well, let's let's get
short yardage instead of trying to go and get big
chunk yardage. And I think from that standpoint, I mean,
I haven't broken down every single play call of the
entire game, and I certainly don't think the entirety of
the game is a Rod's fault. It just felt like
a bad collection of things that when they all got
mixed together, or they just spelled poorly for this team.
Speaker 3: I also think this is a game where you could
have used the Kilan Marion. It or Darius Lassiter.
Speaker 7: I love Parker Kings, and I love Chase Roberts, and
I think they are great possession catchers of the football.
But one thing about Keelan and Darius that was really
great was those were guys that if it was one
on one me versus you, they could go and get
their own and they could go and create their own
And I just don't know if BYU has a guy
on this team who can get open when he's not
being schemed open. I think BYU really needs to look
into getting one of those guys in the portal.
Speaker 6: This offseason to second that opinion. And look, and I'm
not trying to tackle line. I don't want people to
get mad because they might take it that way. The
complimentary football, you gotta let that go. If you're going
to be a team been that we've discussed multiple times
competing in the College College Football Playoff, you gotta let
the complimentary football go. You gotta come to a point where,
like Brett said, you go and get a four star
guy like you didn't have Darius. Couldn't come back this
way where they get approved Keeland transfers. You have the
four star running back and you see the difference right
leading the big twelve and rushing.
Speaker 8: So there's that.
Speaker 6: When you get the talent, you gotta go get it
at the receiver level. The tight ends are coming in,
kids are going on missions, so that's in the pipeline,
but you gotta get that guy at the receiver. Like
when I look at Arizona State, Texas Tech knew that
the ball was going to Jordan Tyson and could not
stop it. BAYU does not have that guy at the
receiver position where it's like, yeah, that guy can get
open every player, you can't stop it.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, it's not there.
Speaker 6: So this year you gotta go be like, we gotta
find a four star, high level, three star guy and
pay him or get him, just like you did with
LJ to couple up with Bear. Because if you want
to be able to beat teams when you're not playing
well on all sides of the football, you have to
have a game changer, and they don't have a game
changing receiver person. Every single player was Darius, it was Keeling.
I hope they go get it. I think they're capable
now because you got the running back, you got the
quarterback that can a little bit make it happen, but
you don't have that receiver just yet.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, last two sound bites before we go
to break, how confident are you in this year's team
to be able to be to be capable of bouncing back.
Speaker 3: Last year there were back to back losses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, last year lost to in a row. Yeah. Well
it makes me feel confident that we're going back home.
Speaker 9: So that would be good going back home for gaming
against the matchup against a really good TCU team, and
so I feel confident that we'll be going to get
that done. This this is my job as head coach,
get these guys ready and get to play at a
higher level than what we did today. But I guess again,
Texas Tech did a great job at what executing and
the fundamentals all of it. So we've got a lot
of work to do and a lot of work to.
Speaker 3: Improve going back home.
Speaker 4: It is great, But bou did lose versus Kansas at
home last year. Hopefully that is not a sign a
bad omen right that you got back to back losses
last year one was at home.
Speaker 3: Now, last thing from Kalate.
Speaker 4: You said this was this Texas Tech team was maybe
expected coming out of the BI week, Sorr, I'm reading
through this question. Was there any question regarding readiness or effort?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 9: Efforts always there. I mean we're getting sacks and getting
knocked back. I mean Atlanta scrimmers a gett knocked back.
It was a big place. I mean this was one
big run, two big passes, you know, then causes a
muff pun.
Speaker 1: Those are big plays at the beginning.
Speaker 9: That's a slow start, so eliminate the big plays and
take care of yourselves. I thought the guys played physical
and then they made some big runs on here and there.
But the guys the efforts there, I's got to do
a better job.
Speaker 1: Get them ready.
Speaker 3: The effort was there, the execution was lacking. All right, guys.
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Speaker 3: Alright, let's read between the lines.
Speaker 4: Coming up next, Chase Roberts gives you his thoughts on
the loss and what be all he needs to do
going forward.
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