Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka. Colored a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dotsjee Rahm. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well,
hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on.
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the pirate ship. I am so happy Danny
came in. I was feeling low and not low, just
like I got stuff going on, and you know, I
got a fifteen year old at home and we're kind
of button heads on this whole idea, like, well, you know,
it's a little bit your fault. And I was like,
you know, I mean most of it's mine. And I
kind of pushed back and he said, no, none of
this is my fault. And we can't look at things
in life and do that. And I did say and
I never thought I would say this, but I'm like, look,
if you're a man, you you want to act like
a man and be a man. This is where it's
not that a woman can't. That's why I don't like
saying that, but I just said a man's version of
I want to talk about being He'll say, you know,
I'm practically man. Yes you are. You're as big as
you're bigger than some men. Yeah. Already speaking of the
maid fifty, he didn't even think the dude. Yeah, So
I go, okay, if that's the case, then you got
to start taking this stuff on. And he's really really
doing well, like changed a lot. This is a big
stretch for him.
Speaker 2: Should I be bigger for my age? Now that I
think about Jabison? The fuck he's huge? No, okay, okod
you're saying I'll getting self conscious for my gosh, Jameson
really is huge.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I must have wasted all those years not lifting. No, Okay,
I hope it's just I think it is. Okay, carry
on with Jamison. Yes, being a man.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like, if you're gonna be the
person in charge. And the reason I don't like saying
be a man is because I don't. I don't want
to discount women and I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody think this podcast thinks you're saying that unless.
Speaker 1: You know somebody listen. I just said, I go, look,
but you if you're going to own it, you got
to own this and it's one hundred percent your stuff
and it is your fault. And I said, you see me,
and I have things and I'm working on it. I'm
quiet about it, and I'm just moving forward. I don't
need I don't need people interfering with stuff. I've got
to plan and I'm working it and that's it. Own it,
and I'm not looking for anybody to you know, and
that's just the way we got to do it. But
when you start coming in, oh, I didn't want to
have this discussion. And it's not that big a deal,
I said, that's not I'm not having the discussion about
what you think it's about. I'm talking about the overall
idea of not taking full responsibility and sharing some of
the blame. I'm going to share some of the well,
some of it's on you. Oh how right? Right? This
was your whole venture, your whole idea, from beginning to end.
You got to make it work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see Bill Gates go yeah, but Steve
Jobs say it and yes, I mean maybe at some point.
Speaker 1: But I was just like so that it's just been
all that. And then Danny comes in here and I
got I could get up and hug you last.
Speaker 2: Night, every podcast, every podcast before the podcast, I pray,
Lord God, let me be a blessing and not a
jackass on the podcast. Every time you really and I
think God comes back with what if we tried both?
Speaker 1: I don't think you're a jackass at all.
Speaker 2: I laughed, we asked.
Speaker 1: I laughed so hard at some of the stuff yesterday.
It was it was absolutely hysterical. Should we start out
with something tonight that has a little more teeth in it?
And by that I mean this is guy very important. Well,
this some teeth to it. And it's Rochester where we
do the We're in a suburb of Rochester, but it's
the biggest city by where we do the podcast. And
they've been making national news, and they've been making national
news because they're a sanctuary city, and I believe have
been since the mid nineties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Quasi Motive just the other day. It's Quasimdive,
the hunchback another name sanctuary.
Speaker 1: Sorry I went a long way for that. But the policies,
so people who are for sanctuary cities feel like it
builds trust between people who are coming to this country
and the police force. If I don't feel like I'm
going to be deported or I'm more apt to calling crime.
I will say, maybe I'm wrong on this. I have
looked up no stats to back it up, but I
would say most people coming to this country, even if
they're coming in illegally, aren't looking to make trouble. They're
looking to make a better life. Does that mean they're
all not making looking to make trouble. No, But I
do think that the idea that a few.
Speaker 2: Bad apples spoil the bunch spoils the whole bunch. I
really do these the bad apples phrased then they spoil
the whole bunch.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I really do, because I think that we focus
on and I'm not saying, boy, horrible things have happened
to people that have to live with that stuff for
the rest of their lives. Uh.
Speaker 2: Don j Don Trump Junior got so much crap for
when Trump was president. The first time, he said, if
I handed you a plate of skill or a bowl
of skittles and they said five percent of them were poisoned,
would you reach into skittles and eat them? And he
got so much crap for that, But his point was
these people aren't.
Speaker 1: Supposed to be here. Yes, you're tempting faint. I'll take
it to something else. But just to say these cities
create create a haven. A lot of people feel for
undocumented immigrants who have who have committed crime, making the
communities less stuff less safe. I look, I don't know
that you could get any less safe in Rochester no
matter who came in. You know what, I'm saying, that
city's already where well, I'm not trying to be rude.
I'm just saying that that's sort of the thing. I
do think that there is an economic toll that is hard.
I have a hard time because it's human beings and
I don't like seeing human beings being mistreated. I just
think that that's horrible. So but I would say, yes,
I agree, it's a toll economically in that anybody who
shows up at the emergency room or whatever has to
be seen, and it is covered yep. And it's covered
out of things. And that's why sometimes local hospitals we
have here maybe wherever you're listening, the hospital does a fundraiser.
Part of it is to cover those costs. Yes, not always,
but some of it is usually that way.
Speaker 2: It's not just those acronyms on the back of your pace.
Speaker 1: Now, No, and I think you know they've been Look,
sanctuary city has been targeted federally, especially under Trump, to
say we're not going to send any funding, uh, and
that there's going to be trouble for non compliance with
law enforcement. So that's where we are with Rochester. Rochester
had a traffic stop by ice and RPD responded to
the call as well. In sanctuary cities, the rule is
the police don't get involved with other law enforcement ice.
That's it is. That that's sort of in the city
charter or whatever. Ok right, I'm just trying to break
that down. That's how it works.
Speaker 2: So if so to the letter of the law, right,
they're not supposed to. But then there's this spirit, this camaraderie.
Speaker 1: No, I understand, right, I understand, And look, yes, I understand. So, yeah,
we all share the same duncan donuts parking right right,
And and it's less they're saying, it makes it less safe.
The city's left safe by preventing local police from cooperating
with federal immigration enforcement. Okay, So that that that's where
we are. So in Rochester that happened and local police helped.
The borders are is saying that he's going to come
to Rochester and he would like to sit down with
the mayor and others. Now, can you take I don't
know if can you? Can you tell me because I
don't know. And I and what happened to the RPD officers.
Were they suspended? Were they given a day without pay?
I don't know specific? Okay, sorry, I don't know. I
don't either. And I thought there was some kind of readA.
Speaker 2: There was a press conference about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I didn't know if there was a repercussion.
I don't know if there was repercussions. Okay, I don't
know that part. Okay, And I'm going there's something that
I'm leading up to with this. I thought there might
have been. Forgive me as my life has been, as
all of our lives, every single person. This is why
your apartment no. But this is why I'm saying, well,
it's suspended for ninety days.
Speaker 2: The I tell Jameson, you gotta take your shoes off
before you walk in the apartment.
Speaker 1: The uh, I would say, like all of our lives
get so busy, every one of us. That's why we're
even putting out a condensed version so you can hear
some of it if you have less time. But the headlines,
like all we see are headlines, right, we don't read
the story or we don't even.
Speaker 2: Have And by the way, the media know that and
will bait you into it if just believing the headline,
if you don't read the story, you gotta be aware
of that. And based on whatever website you're going to,
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'll read the story. Wait
a minute, that's not the shit. That's not what happened,
right a few there's these aggregators who go out if
you know what, you know what an aggregator is. They're
not the person like Brett Davidson is a reporter. Yes,
an aggregator would take what Brett Davidson did and then
write a spin story about it and take.
Speaker 1: Credit hand Brett Davidson is from Channel ten. No, no,
I know, I know the IT team. Yeah, no, I understand.
I think that he's been referred to as something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard about this. Yeah, it starts with L
rhymes with user. Yes, of all people in Rochester, that guy.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. But here's the thing, I don't
know what happened with the RPD. They may have been.
I thought there was some kind of pushback' it may
bee a suspension. Remember this, the chief serves at the
pleasure of the mayor. The mayor appoints who the chief is. Okay,
it's not an elected position. Its appointed by the chief
by the mayor, and so therefore really he kind of
is the mayor the lead over that. And the city
charter does say exactly what I just said. For sanctuary cities,
police do not get involved with ice. They're on their
own to take care of whatever. We don't get involved.
Well for you, right, two police officers I believe stopped
and just helped get them in a man. I don't know, Okay,
Brett Davidson. They talked to the border czar yesterday. Yes,
and did you see that interview. I didn't see the interview.
I saw that he talked to him. Okay, So he's
been they've been trying to get the mayor to talk
to them, and the mayor they feel like may have
been ducking them. I don't know Mayor Evans.
Speaker 2: But he came on this podcast once.
Speaker 1: By accidents, he was he tripped over he uh so
Mayor Evans was announcing party in the park and they
were at the Record Archive. It's a record store, instrument
store in the in the Greater Rochester area. And uh,
Brett went because he was going to be taking uh off,
I want to say, off issue questions, because it wasn't
take questions about other things other than party in the park.
And here is how the.
Speaker 3: Morning Mayor Malik Evans had a public event to announce
the party in the park line ago, and his assistant
said he'd be available for off topic questions afterward.
Speaker 1: Off topic questions. Correct, you put that so succinctly, And
I like, I love Brett. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: But following the event, the mayor hastily started to leave,
was less than eager to talk with me and started
with the insults.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's it's I watched this. I don't mind
Malik Evans. I didn't mind him when he was the
school board. I know you don't like him.
Speaker 2: I don't like him. I still like the city of
Rochester in general. Okay, right now, so I'm just watching this.
As the mayor goes, so goes the city.
Speaker 1: Well I always say so goes as the city suburbs,
and so I just said with with mayor Evans. Uh,
I want you to think of of I want you
to listen to it. I want you to listen to him.
And and I understand, I think everybody can understand. But
the one thing I have said for many, many, many
years is adults need to learn to control their emotions. Okay,
so he keeps a lid on it, but does he
listen to this? Here we go, Brett, he's a loser. Brett,
I don't talk to him. He's a loser. Why, Like,
right right there, I go, that's too that's too much.
Speaker 2: You went from zero to well one hundred in the
span of like a couple of seconds.
Speaker 1: But this is the same thing that I had the issue.
Remember we had the issue with Lovely Warren when we
were on the radio together. We had her on and
she and I went back and forth.
Speaker 2: She came to the studio yea, and then she immediately
before the MIC's were on, like I didn't like what
you He goes and you said, to your credit, I
don't talk until the bikes around. I did say that,
and Tommy and Tommy looked at me like when his
glasses he told.
Speaker 1: I was pissed around because she was coming in to
start a fight and she's gonna scold me. And this
was over the fact that I had a At the time,
it was who Lightfoot brought her und it was Willie
brought her in. But there was the This was a
mother and a daughter had gotten into a fight in
the city of Rochester and it sort of spilled into
the street. Cops were called. They show up and they're
they're separating the parties. One officer is talking to the
mother who's sitting on the on the steps of the porch.
There were a bunch of people had come out right
chaos in the street and putting They were putting the
woman into handcuffs, black woman, white officer. She all of
a sudden, what we saw was the white officer on
the back of the head smacked her up like kind
of the back of the head, like hey, you know,
maybe your pair parents did that to you. Maybe an okay,
I'm just saying, but not something that we would expect
an officer.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm six four.
Speaker 1: So then Adam McFadden calls me and goes, hey, man,
there's another angle of that tape and it's not really out.
I'm going to send it to you. And in that
angle of the tape. What you saw was the woman's
hand reached back then either the gun or his balls,
but either one, and he just kind of real yeah,
just to hey, don't touch me, cut the ship. Yeah,
that's what it was. This became a big thing, and
it became a black white issue, and Lovely Warren was
not mayor yet and she went on a podcast radio show.
It was Facebook with people who didn't even live in Rochester,
who were talking about Rochester. It was horrible, horrible to
really listen to. Just in terms of acoustics. I'll say that, like,
it didn't sound good because everybody's in different They're all
like on phones, it's on Facebook, yelling and do it.
I'm no idea what's happening. So we have her in
and I said to her she was trying to make
this a black white issue, and I said to her,
what happens? Like I let her go for a minute,
and then I go, what happens when you go home
and your kids are going crazy? And she's like, I
talked softly. I said, really, I go and it brings
the level down. She goes, yeah, I go, that's funny
because I do the same thing with my kids. And
I'm white and you're black, so that's isn't an orasisue.
This is a human issue. And she said, well, a
black officer talked. I said, no, a veteran officer talked.
A veteran officer. How many years is he on the job.
She's like, oh, he was like twenty sons. I said, right,
I go, so, maybe what you have in the city
of Rochester is not a what were they calling it
at the time, a cultural problem? Have a cultural problem
you have? Yeah, she kept saying, you don't get the culture.
I'm going, this is a human being problem. Take me
to any culture where there is something that needs law
enforcement and try to show me where there's cultural differences.
Every human being gets heightened, and you've got to be
a person to talk it down. You've got to keep
your emotions in check. That's why a veteran police officer
can certainly hidle it. I'm sure there are veteran police
officers who were burned out from that stuff, but whatever.
That's all I'm saying is more experience, and I truly
believe that human beings are human beings, and when the
shit hits the fan, the ship hits the fan. For everybody,
there's chaos, emotions, you're screaming and yelling. Look at show
me any chaotic thing around the world, and what we
see pretty much the same thing you'd see everywhere if
that happened, you know what I mean. And that was
but I so that's sort of most.
Speaker 2: Of the people are bystanders. They're not like participant. But
it looks worse than it really is.
Speaker 1: And then after that she wouldn't really talk to me
and clammed up. Yeah, but she was. But she was
even saying like after that, like later on, I tried
to get her on Chose and she was a little
stand office with me for the same thing. And I'm going,
all I did was my job. You do your job.
I'm not saying you're bad at your job. I'm disagreeing
with you. If if we can't have a discussion and
a disagreement, then you you're you know what I'm saying,
right this this ironclad So to call Brett Davidson a loser, Jesus.
Speaker 2: Christ, Yeah, that's not just looks it looks awful. It
looks awful, and it looks awful to a dude who
has done so much for the community as a professional
who has really like helped Rochester. He and Berkeley bring
both are like the last of a dying breed of
a reporter in Rochester.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I.
Speaker 2: Mean, but just the respect is human beings. You're a mayor,
you can't.
Speaker 1: All the reason calling him a loser is you. He
did an interview you didn't like. They wanted to see
it because the Tzar said he would sit down with
the mayor. And there's been no movement allegedly from the
mayor's office. But Malik Evans puts forward something that I
think is very valid in this. But what's your question?
Do it quickly? I gotta go, do it quickly, I
gotta go. Okay, So Brett's just standing there and it's
been called a loser? Right, all right? Here we go,
all right now? Quickly would be what in your mind?
What would quickly be if if somebody's in a rut?
Watch quickly?
Speaker 2: Well real quick, mister mayor, is it truly are you
going to meet with the tzar? Have you taken him
up on his Uh.
Speaker 1: Give me a time length? How long would you expect
about a minute? Okay, here we go.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the Tom Homan interview.
Speaker 1: Did you watch it? No, I didn't watch it. Okay,
no I didn't watch it.
Speaker 2: That wasn't No, I didn't watch it. No, I didn't
watch it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he said, what about it? If I didn't
watch it, wouldn't I say I didn't know? You interviewed him?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, and now even if I watched it. Yeah, my
answer back, if it's me may Or Moran would say,
I don't know. You talked to him. Well, he talked
to him. What did he say? What did he say?
Speaker 3: Well, for starters, he said that he would be willing
to meet with you in the police.
Speaker 1: Now, the reason before anybody jumps on me because I
just did what do you say? The reason I'm saying
it that way is not to mimic our mock Malik Evans.
He doesn't speak this quickly. He's frustrated, his emotions. He's frustrated.
Speaker 2: He's coming out of his basement.
Speaker 1: Call the guy loser called that. He's talking quickly, he's agitated,
just saying if.
Speaker 3: If that was something that you would be wanting to
do and just wanted to ask you your thoughts about that,
Is that something that you would consider?
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm glad you here a party in
the park. We're gonna have a great show with party
in the park winning.
Speaker 1: Okay, but but again even there, like if you could
almost just slow it down, you know what, Brett, I
believe you and I should speak about this another time.
But we're here to talk about partying in the park.
We're excited for partying in the park. I know news
TENANBC has been part of it, like that would be
my thing.
Speaker 4: But in terms of your question regarding Homan, I have
not talked to him. I have not heard that, and
I really don't respond the hypotheticals. And if we have
something to announce, you'll be the first one to know.
Speaker 1: Okay, but thank you. Okay, So now I would expect
that that would be it right if he turned on
his heels, even if Brett asked to follow up, just
walk away.
Speaker 3: Ask you a couple other questions about what he had
to see.
Speaker 4: One more quick Brett, I got another, I got another
event I did not plan on your and you asked
the question move quickly.
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay. I'm just saying, like anybody, anybody in power,
you can be mad and you can go Look, guys,
I didn't like the way things were done or whatever.
But this is you know, now, I'll try to explain
what I think the mayor means in a second, and
you can do question well. He said.
Speaker 3: In talking about sanctuary cities, he says, because they have
to bring more resources into sanctuary cities for the safety
of their officers. That quote Rochester wants to be a
sanctuary city, They're gonna get exactly what they don't want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, they're gonna get exactly what they don't want.
This is where they're talking about. And I don't know
if you can pull federal funding for non compliance with
immigration enforcement requests. I don't know that you can do that.
I don't I'm not sure in terms of federal I'm
not a lawyer. I don't know. That is a sticking point,
I think, but that that's sort of what the czar
was alluding to, right, the borders are is basically they go, oh,
they're gonna get what they want because you're not gonna
get any funding. We're not gonna help you, right.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means. I don't have the
context of that, but let me tell you something. We
always make sure that we support any law enforcement person
that comes in. We've made that clear. I said what
I said. I think you saw the release. I would
ask you to play that again.
Speaker 1: Okay, right there, Like even that I think is fine.
The way he's talking, he's he started slowing down, slowing down,
and he could be mad. Please don't take this you
want to be I don't have to agree with you,
but it is okay. So this part, I'm all right.
Speaker 2: Because Brett's doing his job. The mayor's try try.
Speaker 1: To do his job. The loser stuff come on, right.
Speaker 4: But again, we always back up off. We always back
up law enforcement. We always have Maplewood Park, other murders
and things that we have, we've had support from other
law enforcement officers. We will always support other law enform
enforcement officers. But in terms of the political element of this,
which I think Brett you might be a part of.
I think you're a part of this political element that's happened.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's hit in personal I know it is. But
what I think he's saying is you're the only one
to interview this guy. Why did they get to you
to say that's that's what he's painting it as. Is
that true? I don't think so. I don't think so. No,
I think it's been talked about nationally and.
Speaker 2: It's very rare that the media gets accused of being
on that side. Well politics, Yeah, very rare. Yeah, unless
they worked for.
Speaker 1: Fox Okay, right, right, seriously, sure, and I thought the
mayor up to that point was pretty good. But he's pissed, right, Yeah, Okay,
So here we go.
Speaker 4: We don't have don't I don't have time for playing
politics with policing or playing politics with public safety. We
have serious issues in this community that we have to
deal with and that is what I am interested in
making sure that we take care of.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how you do it. I mean,
honest to God, I mean as much as we you know, go,
how do we once we start turning to the government
to be our babysitters? Yeah, I've always felt that.
Speaker 2: Famously, President Reggedd say the nine worst words you ever
want to hear is hi, I'm from the government and
I'm here to help.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess he did.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I mean that's true. That should be your
last resort. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately now we have society
have over the last two twenty five thirty years, have
been trained to go government.
Speaker 1: First, we keep trying to look at him to go
what the fuck is going on? Because you're the mayor
and east End isn't what it used to be and
this isn't what it used to be, but it's not
what it used to be because crime has come in, right,
and you know, is it the catch? And really I
don't know.
Speaker 4: The citizens of Rochester not playing politics with policing, not
them using Brett Davidson as a political hack to be
able to do that. We want to make sure that
we are putting our residence and that's the movie.
Speaker 1: What is that supposed to mean? Using me as a political.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Brett. You have to go back and ask,
but I think that that's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing
that they're using what do you hear?
Speaker 2: Okay, anytime somebody I'm gonna for those of you listen
to this, anytime anybody ever uses the phrase what I'm
hearing is, yeah, is an immediate red flag in business,
in life. Yeah, never use the phrase what I'm hearing
is because now you're opening yourself up to you are
making it all about you in your opinions.
Speaker 1: It also or you're putting yourself in a hotspotbody goes,
I want to know where you heard this from? Yeah,
because what if it's true? Now, it is interesting that
I only to just put a little light on the
mayor's point. I don't know that anybody else in town
has talked to the borders are So why is Brett
the piece that is that's what he's alluding to. I
don't think I think that's news. I think it was
a guy just doing his job. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a pretty good idea because I think that
I gotta be careful saying this because I got well, No,
I don't want to be honest. I know that everybody
works hard at each station, but I think that you
know right now, Brett and Berkeley are Jennifer Luky I
think her name is Yes, Yeah, they're the only ones
really reporting any freaking news.
Speaker 1: Listen, the other people are. I'm not counting the anchors no, No,
I'm not talking aout the ankers.
Speaker 2: I'm talk what the reporters.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I think most of the reporters are young and there, Yeah,
and they don't know the city. These are people who
have built their lives here. Yeah, they have built their
ELSEIL thirteen.
Speaker 2: And Channel eight have a lot of stop reporters, and
I'm not knocking them. They're using Rochester to get onto
Cincinnati or Chicago or Dallas.
Speaker 1: They're not. They don't want to stay here.
Speaker 2: Maybe some of them do, the anchors kind of do,
but like I think, mostly the reporters don't. It's like
Rochester has now become like an Erie Pennsylvania, or an
Elmira or a Binghamton, where now this is not your
second stop out of college, this is off of your
first stop out of college, or you didn't get much
many reps in the previous stopic and so now the
only person who's doing real actual news are the guys
who could always do a real actional actual news.
Speaker 1: Here we go. It's just what I'm here. Who's they you?
And who's they you? Who Day? The Bengels? Who Day?
But who's they? Said? Brad? Because it's you. Uh, I'm
sure that that is an opinion of people. I don't
know that it's fact. And so if he's hearing it
and it makes sense to him, yeah, yeah, you could
see what that's what everybody? Who are you hearing it?
Speaker 4: Probably probably the interview that you gave. But but again,
public staty is on number one priority. We have not
heard from the interview mister Holman yet, and again we don't.
We don't talk in hypotheticals. But if we hear from him,
we'll take it from there, and when we have something
to announce, we will make sure that we announce it.
But thank you very much and thanks for being at
Party in the Park. I hope we see everybody there
starting in July.
Speaker 2: By the way, is do they have any original bands
playing at Party in the Park?
Speaker 1: Was suggested for the record.
Speaker 3: I didn't speak to anyone about the interview with home
and nor did anyone facilitate that interview. I reached out
directly to Homeland Security in Washington inquiring about his willingness
to speak with us after he said he'd be coming
to Rochester, and I heard from their communications people within
ninety minutes.
Speaker 1: Wow, there you go. I mean, he just did what
a reporter does. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That's what
that that that's what I mean. But can you see
from the mayor's point, the only reporter that talks it's
an attack against me. But we got to get out
of that mindset. If it's an attack against me, yeah,
it's not. You are a sanctuary city. There are these bylaws.
I get it these, but we're in a wild time
right now. I don't know what you do. I don't
know what you do because there you.
Speaker 2: Know, I think, but Mayor inherited Lovely Warren's mess and
the late David Gantz mess because she was his, she
was his installation. Let's be honest. Okay, thanks Stuffy for
going to become lieutenant governor. We're still paying for your mistakes.
But anyway, the point is, though, is that Mayor Evans
actually had an out. He actually slowed down and could
have made this a very We don't deal in hypotheticals.
All he had to do was slowed down and actually
have the guts to just yell talk to you, Brett,
What do you want to know?
Speaker 1: If he were trained to do that properly. But he's not.
Speaker 2: He's got a horrible pr team polished.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna jump in there because
I think that I hear what you're saying. I know
what you're saying, like there is okay, but I would
go one step further. I would take it as I'm
a leader and I got to act like a leader
and think like a leader, which he didn't do right
in that moment. Now, I can understand getting mad, but
to be caught on a hot mic calling I don't
talk to him, he's a loser, and he's standing right there,
and then you turn around. You didn't run away, you stood.
And that's why I asked you a time. I thought
he spent a lot of time for a guy who
had to go so quickly, I thought he spent a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually did spend a couple minutes, and I'll
give him that, right, So all of that could have
been painted in a different picture if you went.
Speaker 1: You know, Brett, I was told you did the interview.
I didn't get to see it yet. I know that
they're allegedly, but we haven't heard from them, and once
we do, I will certainly let you know whatever. But
the whole point of this is, so what does this
mean for anybody else listening anywhere else? It means, as
an adult, get those emotions under control, right, It would
be so much cooler and calmer and everything, because that's
a TV camera. But you're caught on camera every day,
You're somebody's watching you somewhere lose your shit, You'll end
up on YouTube. Yeah you know what I mean? Right,
be that person you don't end.
Speaker 2: Up do you remember, like you even watching the OJ
trial stuff on Netflix stuff? When Robert Shapiro got hired
to be OJ's lawyer, right, they immediately catch up with
him once they found out that he would.
Speaker 1: This is before OJ was charged.
Speaker 2: And he goes. OJ Sipson was awaiting a limo ride
at ten point fifteen at his house, like indl the words,
he painted a picture to make it sound like OJ
had nothing to do with this. He's a victim of
circumstance and he always and they asked him, They go,
how did you notice say that? He goes, I've been
doing this forever.
Speaker 1: He goes.
Speaker 2: You never give a no comment. You always want to
give up, even if people see right through it.
Speaker 1: You always want to give a confident, it polished comment.
And he had.
Speaker 2: Brett gave him the opportunity to do that, and he
let his emotions.
Speaker 1: Get what I'm saying, and believe me as a guy
who's hot headed, and you saw me in some real
hot headed I.
Speaker 2: Have first week I worked with you, Yes, stopping with
the folds.
Speaker 1: Of trying to do an interview.
Speaker 2: You're interviewed Castro's brother, right, Fidel Castro's brother, or guy
went to school with him? Yeah, better interviewed all the
other stupid station. I did scream that I guess who
was back there, answered the floats. But but but yeah,
I mean, I want to give the mayor the benefit
of the doubt. I really do. He had a chance
to look mayoral, presidential. That's the thing in that instant.
Speaker 1: But even with like your kids and everybody, if you
can just take a take that proverbial beat, find a
way to put a little distance between your knee jerk
reaction and what you actually do. If you can put
a little buffer in there, I'm telling you your life
will be a lot easier because you'll start to see
let everybody else go chaotic. But man, when you stay cool,
calm and collected, it's great. When you're caught on a
hot mic calling a reporter a loser, I don't talk
to that loser, and then you turn around and talk
to the loser. Yes, you know, you're kind of you're
in a catch twenty two. And I get it, Danny,
I have said, you know, oh yeah, you know, I said, horrible, horrible, shit,
terrible stuff.
Speaker 2: Awful things into and not into a microphone.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I you know I live and I die
by that.
Speaker 2: But you mentioned that live and you die, you always
try to live, to live, to live, to fight another day.
Speaker 1: Sure, and the mayor could have.
Speaker 2: To say, Brett, you know what, I'll sit down with
you this week if we want to talk about it.
Let me watch your interview, and that way he can
be prepared and like Breck Agrilla, but he'll have the
pr crafted answers already ready to go.
Speaker 1: Even if you don't listen, at least it puts a
good face on it.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you he looked like he was hiding. And
I want to like Mayor Evans. I want to root
for him because the better he does, the better Rochester does.
I want this dude to succeed. I wanted him to
beat Lovely Warm. I want there to be a better Rochester.
Speaker 1: Whatever city you're in. Yes, I would say that. You
know that. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Is Mayor Brown and Buffalo doing anything anymore?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's I think he's working
for a room. I'll tell you something that I can't
say on the microphone and there's a reason why about
something out of Buffalo. But I can't say, dude, Mayor
Brown was cool.
Speaker 2: That whole city like had had a renaissance under that man.
Speaker 1: Do you wanna all right, Well, we'll take him moment
here and I will ask you if you would like
to talk about a sexual retreat that people have been
going on? Okay, okay? Or would you like to talk
about a professor with a side gig? Okay, sony professor.
Speaker 2: All professors have side gigs.
Speaker 1: This is as a suning professor.
Speaker 2: He's paid for it by the state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, within a uh less than ethical sidekick.
Speaker 2: Okay, So are they gonna take away his pension?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's talk about he might not have
been tenured. Oh, that makes all the difference that may
he might not have been tenured. Let's talk about bTB.
Would fire Piece and grill on the mall of Grease
reads Danny. Oh, the food is so good there and
the brunch is phenomenal. And I know that there was
as of Monday, and we're recording this on Wednesday, so
you're running out of time. There was only three reservations
left for their Easter brunch. And the reason I would
suggest their brunch so much more than any buffet brunches.
It's not above a brunch. No buffet food gets cold.
Everybody else is there. Do you ever look at the
people in the buffet lines. I mean, I don't mean
to be rude. I'm just saying, but this is when
it's made for you. It's brought out to you. And
there's no Dixie plates that are like the pilling over
the size of literally a frisbee. Yes, you've got the
great Belgian waffle with the cookies and cream. You've got
a burrito. It's bigger than Baby Jesus, and they put cheese.
It's big. I'm just saying it's big. Yes, I know.
Speaker 2: And that and Matt he's like, already Buco will come
to your table and say, hey, thanks for coming to
the place. The food doesn't beautiful.
Speaker 1: Just say, I didn't know Matt Reeves very well until
we started the podcast. I'm very impressed by that guy. Yeah,
and he works and puts his money where his mouth is.
He does. They're short on he's gone back of nights
to help out. You know, he runs it, but he's
right in there along.
Speaker 2: He runs bTB the way the Dallas Cowboys are run
like financially, they make a ton of money. Yes, they
don't win on the field, but they're a great business. Yes,
Matt Reese is a great businessman, right.
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catching a baseball game. They've even got TV's on their patio.
When the weather gets a little nicer, you can probably
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So a professor had a side gig. I want here's
a very boring reporter from Canton, New York. Do you
know where Canton is? Uh, middle of the state, Yeah, yeah,
by Syracuse, Uh yeah, around there, somewhere in the desolate
part of the between Syracuse Utica about of farm stuff
and things.
Speaker 5: There, yeah, and then digital news desk. A former Sunny
Canton professor is accused of taking bribes from students in
exchange for higher grades. A police was a forty five
year old Raji Nirula of Canton on Tuesday, Okay, cases
eight felon accounts of third degree bribery. According to court documents,
Nirula is accused of.
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Speaker 2: Was this last day, Rajiv Narula?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am Narula of this classroom, Nadeev Rajiev Narula.
Excuse me. It's facing eight filony bribery counts.
Speaker 2: Felonies for that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, suting under the table cash payments in exchange
for higher grades. And I hope it was worth it
because how much are you paying? What can a college
kid pay you? Right?
Speaker 2: They don't even tip for pizza.
Speaker 1: In a Sunni school in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Could be mom and dad.
Speaker 1: Well yes, but I mean, oh, probably is mom and dad. Yeah.
So this went on in twenty twenty one and twenty
twenty two to take to put you in the Jennifer
business today, who was fired in twenty twenty three. Here's
the broader issue, the skyrocketing tuition that we see in colleges,
to the buying of access to elite schools. We had
that old scandal. Oh yeah, the Lorie Locklan Laurie Becky.
Speaker 2: From Full House Yeah, and Felicity Huffman I think yes,
from Desperate Housewives.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They were both like trying to like snow plow their kids.
They called snowplow parents, snowplow their way for their kid
to get into USC.
Speaker 1: Access to elite schools in USC is a bit of
an academic it is. And so you go, are you
surprised everything's so transactional with schools? Are you surprised that
this went on, or or let me praise that and go,
this ain't the only place is probably happening.
Speaker 2: No, of course not.
Speaker 1: It's probably not. If you're if you get.
Speaker 2: A bribe, you know, if you get the money to
bribe somebody at Sunny campon, you couldn't get into like
Penn State or something.
Speaker 1: This is why Gate, this is why I'm wondering, like, literally,
could it have been it.
Speaker 2: Will save money on tuition at a Suny school?
Speaker 1: Fifty? Do you understand? What could it have been that low?
I want to know the dollars? The thing so I
remember your bribe? We go secdre was much.
Speaker 2: There was a college football coach I think that his
name is Rick new Heithel who end up losing his
job because he was betting on an NCAA tournament pool.
And the question is, okay, but if the tournament pool
is like, what's the what's the dollar about?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: If it's five dollars a person and in the winter
wins like two hundred and fifty bucks, who cares? But
if it's in the thousands, now we gotta like get
some suspect over it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the thing is that sounds like somebody
they want out.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, we need to find an excuse.
Speaker 1: And here's the thing I want to know. How did
you find out who told you that he was taking bribes?
Did they set him up in some way?
Speaker 2: Brett Davidson said, his kid there a loser. Yeah, yeah,
and he did some investigative journalism. He wore the little
Heraldo camera and he went in and tried to bribe
doctor Narula.
Speaker 1: And he makes you wonder, like, how about the students
that it didn't pay?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What now? Okay? Is it okay? Tokay?
Speaker 2: Paper here? But Becky here's got to be but she's
paying for an A so uh you one a plus.
Speaker 1: Look, the thing is, what if he grades on a curve?
What's where's the curve? Why wouldn't you let a student
make money? So this kid's really got to help him out. Yeah,
and then this kid goes twenty bucks case of beer.
I don't know. I don't know because they don't even
wonder what happens to if this gets out this in particular,
Soony Sunny Canton, what happens to the power of the
degree over time?
Speaker 2: Well, it is Sunny Canton and up until today, I
really had never heard of Sunny Canton, So no news
is bad news for Sunny Canton. At this point, they
could come out and say we've.
Speaker 1: Gotten rid of the problem.
Speaker 2: Please come visit our hey, Buffalo Bills, if you're looking
for a new college after Saint John Fisher, we'd love
to have you.
Speaker 1: What what was he teaching? Chemistry?
Speaker 2: Okay, that might be serious because that implies like medical degrees,
pharmaceuticals stuff.
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean that's that. If it were like.
Speaker 2: Egglish, I got, who cares? Nobody could write on Facebook anyway.
But if if you're talking about like you know, or
even education, yeah you know what, they have other classes
that can make it up, you talk, you screw around,
like pharmaceuticals or a medical we got.
Speaker 1: Yeah we have a problem, all right, but back to this,
just take it on on surface and it could have
been a challenging chemistry class.
Speaker 2: I have no idea or can of chemistry. What organ chemistry? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well could have been I don't know.
They don't tell you that. They don't tell you the
dollar amount. Really, really, Brett, we need more reporters like you, yes, please,
because I want to know the dollar amount I want
to know, like you have to really really hoping that
this guy got fired over a fifty dollars bride. That's
what I'm really open. But the fact that he would
take a fifty dollars bride be dumb enough to like
gas and in Canton, Ohio, see like a king on
fifty dollars. New York or New York excuse me, thank you,
it's right. But in New York you just yes, yes, uh,
but we can go Okay, you got a corrupt professor,
You've got the expense of paying students and all that stuff.
But is it have Are we in a world now
where everything's got a shortcut? And I'll take it to
video games you can get like the key or kids
spend hours watching people play video games on Twitch, yes,
these other places. Right, So if that's the case, are
we looking for a shortcut in some way? And they do?
They have like I forget what it's called in the
video game world, but they have like an answer key
so you can get you can figure it out and
you know, get to the next level faster. Are we
so trained to be a shortcut?
Speaker 2: Yeah? When I was a kid, Nintendo Power was a magazine.
It was a monthly magazine that you get for tips
on how to beat video games. But then they would
come out with these strategy guys, and the Strategy Guy
was basically the entire game in book form.
Speaker 1: Yeah, showing you how to cheat your way to win. Right,
and you thought you actually see codes and stuff. Yeah,
but you didn't win anything. It's cheat codes and that
that just said that.
Speaker 2: You you were able to tell your friends I'd beat
Mario Brothers too.
Speaker 1: Right, great, And that's that's the thing that I wonder
is like, Okay, so we've got cheat codes and all
this stuff. Do you get to a point and you
got to figure eighteen nineteen year old kids? Yeah, I
don't know, or twenty twenty one whatever, young people. This
is what like, this is what happened.
Speaker 2: I hate saying this, but like this is what happens
like around the world, like third world countries and second
world countries where they just like pay for their degrees everything.
Speaker 1: Hey look, I'm a doctor. I'm serious. I'm serious.
Speaker 2: That's why nobody took like Brian McNamee or any of these,
like or Guerrero, right, yeah, Alex Guerrero, Tom Brady's guy.
Speaker 1: Nobody took these guys.
Speaker 2: Seriously because their degrees were from schools that later on
never existed. Right, Well, they went out of business. Anthony
Gallia like, was Tiger Woods is doctor? Where do you
go to school? The school doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1: They paid for their degrees.
Speaker 2: Like, did you watch Tiger King during the pandemic? I
don't think we've never had a Tiger King discussion on this.
There was a guy named Doc Antell. He had seven wives.
I think one was legal, he had six other wise
he had this huge like Tiger refuge. He goes, I
am a medical doctor. Was like, no, his degree is fake.
It's total bs. He bought it online. It's not real.
He's not a real doctor. And I mean, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think we do cheat.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we're gonna get to another generation where, if this continues,
we're gonna be taking medical advice from quacks all the time.
If they don't crack down this crap, I'd rather doing it.
Speaker 1: I take it on this podcast from an absolute quick.
Speaker 2: Listen Shammy, the medical advice I had dispense. Heares not
medical advice. For real medical advice, call your own doctor.
Speaker 1: I would love to see. I'm dying to know. I
love to talk to the professor, like, how much money
did you get?
Speaker 2: How about you Brett David's brides, how much did you
get off the right right?
Speaker 1: Because you lost your gig. It could be worse if
you were looking to get the fuck out of campon anyway.
Speaker 2: He could have asked for sexual favors and received sexual favors.
I'm almost relieved that he asked for money at this point. Yeah,
because everything has become this well.
Speaker 1: I wonder if someone offered it and he went all right,
you know what I mean, Okay, you're thinking it's not
gonna happen, and the next thing, you know, and maybe
it was a one time thing. But he supposedly took bribes. Uh,
spring summer and fall semester. People were like, hey, man,
you pay this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like gig fifty bucks of the
cable guy back in the in the nineties and give
you all the dirty channels. Not that I would know that.
Oh I heard about that.
Speaker 1: I Oh really heard about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You must have been tempted as a kid.
Speaker 2: Oh of course I was tempted. Yeah, temptations a thing,
and it means me I did ever watch the digital
The digital boo boo.
Speaker 1: I think, wait, there's yeah.
Speaker 2: I get spice Chedtle. That was like the big thing
in school. Hey, my dad's it's police channel. Is black Bucks?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: Well, not my dad, no, people say, oh yeah. So
so here's a funny story. So my church bought a
house from a guy to be a parsonage. So they
go in and clean it up, right, and it looks
pretty spotless. So we hire a pastor. He moves in
and he had they had to do some work in
the basement with the ceiling tiles. They're kind of like this, right,
see how they're movable, And he goes to move one
of all of a sudden, this cable box like falls
out of the sky, out of the ceiling and he's like,
what's this. He goes there's like five or six black boxes.
Whoever owned the house before them was like getting like
illegal cable through these black boxes, and then every time
they got caught or was on the verge get caught,
they just switched the box out and they had they
found like six black boxes in the I mean, we
knew it was in the last ten years at that point,
because like in the eighties, he's got that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he put he hit him in the ceiling.
Speaker 2: Whoever sold the house?
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, he just wanted to get out one of
those commercials like we people who steal.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you know someone else the prices for everyone.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't, No, it didn't know. You're you know,
did that shitty negotiations family? Exactly?
Speaker 2: Golf course.
Speaker 1: You know what's nice though, you can still get over
the air channels for free and you can watch you
can watch the Masters.
Speaker 2: That's this week and see starting today.
Speaker 1: Starting today, that's right. And there are words I didn't
realize that you're not allowed to say.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah at the Masters. You can't say garbage. Well,
you have to say debris.
Speaker 1: I will admit to a weakness that I had today,
a very brief weakness. I had an appointment at four o'clock. Uh.
Where we live, there is a major expressway that is
down to one lane right after where you and I
went to college. If you don't get off there, you're
stuck for nearly half hour forty minutes depending. So I
got off and I went through the village of Pittsford,
and I thought, what do you think happens when I
go through the village of Pittsford stops. Yes, because I
haven't been there in a very, very very long time.
And I walk in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard there was like a poster of you
on the side of this thing. Oh have a milk cart.
Speaker 1: I saw the owner, Dave Clifford, briefly. He goes, are
you coming to going? I go actually, I'm leaving. I
sat down and the bartender I know him, Ricky, and
I said, hey, Ricky, I got ten minutes, and I said,
give me a half again. He goes, what the fuck
is wrong with you? And give me a whole guinness.
So I had a guinness and I watched some of
the soccer. But I like going there to watch the
Masters and stuff, and.
Speaker 2: If there's someoney place in town to watch the Masters.
Speaker 1: In that place, some guy sitting next to me is
telling Ricky that either someone he knows or some coach
got kicked I don't know if he got kicked out,
but his student is playing in the Masters. Maybe it's
an amateur. I'm not sure they do let amateurs play.
There are certain parts of Augusta that you are not
allowed to wear shorts, and that's on the field of
play or the course. Yeah, you can if you are
a patron. They don't call them fans, your patrons. They
don't have fanatics at Augusta. They patrons. So if you're
a patron, you can wear shorts. But I heard that
today that this guy, I don't know if he got
kicked out or just said you can't be here, you
can't be in this area. That that is true, because
somebody goes, how did he get in then, and they said, well,
you can wear them. You can wear shorts as a patron,
but not in the galley. There is no such thing
as the rough. What do they call it, I don't
know what they call it, the second grass, the second grass.
So you know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: Why because I kind of appreciate it in a way.
So they say, like Augusta, the town itself is a dump,
is a dump.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my cousin owns a couple of restaurants. Theres thanks
for sitting there. Well, there are parts of it that
are very nice, but yes, overall, yeah.
Speaker 2: Overall yeah. But the actual course, they say, it's like
a time warp. It's like going back to the fifties
in every sense you can imagine.
Speaker 1: Stop it.
Speaker 2: So when you go to pay for your food. You
can't use a credit card, paying cash, but the prices
are like nineteen fifties prices. Everything's incredibly cheap there except
for the attire, the gear and stuff that's those are
all kill prices, okay, but everything else, like you can't
have your phone. It's very quiet, it's very prim and proper.
You got to, you know, get dressed for it. But
it is like a time warp. Going to Augusta. My
brother in law went there a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: What do they call that. They don't say sand trap.
I don't know what they call it. Maybe obstacles, it.
Speaker 2: Could be I don't know's there's usually a list of
what you.
Speaker 1: Can You'll never hear that phrase while you're watching the Masters.
You will never hear them say sandtrap. The back nine
is another one that they don't say. They may say
the second nine.
Speaker 2: Okay. The other one I'm really sure about is garbage
versus debris. We don't get garbage, like Jim Natz was such,
just some garbage floating out into the green and Hoody Johnson,
who was the president at the time, said, Jim, we
don't have garbage in Augusta. We have debris.
Speaker 1: H they don't have a driving rings either.
Speaker 2: They want to make they want to sound as upper crust.
Speaker 1: As part practice area for their to practice your skills.
It's a country club or golf course. Are not used,
twosome is not used. Fourth round, final round, Yeah, it's
the final augusta. Yeah. And I don't know how I
feel better because I go your pretentious assholes. It's a
game of golf, right, but there is something about rules
and decorum and playing that way.
Speaker 2: Every golf club, country club has their rules. There are
some golf clubs here in town that don't allow Italians.
Speaker 1: But I've been told that, Oh okay, you heard this.
I heard the where'd you hear it? Didn't you hear
from from?
Speaker 2: I'm not choking.
Speaker 1: I don't who this is back, and like, son, you
tell me what club that is. I don't know referring
to O kill because I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's killed.
Speaker 1: I know, dude, do we know Italians killed? Yes? I do?
You know? I just thought of three?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, like, I don't I think that
that's what he said. I don't know if it's true,
making it up, But the my point is golf clubs
I probably wouldn't let that.
Speaker 1: The guy on there, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, Billy Crystal told the story once at the funeral. Okay,
so at the groups ethnic groups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not. I don't because I think Jews
are discriminated. I think I would believe that Italian. What
I'm saying is, I don't think Italians are necessarily discriminated
against for being Italian.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this from this is what I was
told by it fell.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Billy Crystal told the Haman Alias story. He
said at his funeral that Muhamma Ali would go jogging
through there, and he goes, you ever play that course?
He goes, well, no, I'm Jewish. They don't allow Juses. Well,
I'm not running there anymore. Yeah, and Muhammed Ali would
never run through there again. But I'm just saying that
the certain golf clubs and court by the way, if
your if your golf club doesn't want me there, I'm
okay with that. It's your club. You do whatever you want. Man,
I don't think I find it.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm sure maybe somewhere, I don't
know of any I'm not a fancy like that. I mean,
I used to be, but not anymore. I don't know.
I don't know. I have no idea. I have no
idea if that's the case.
Speaker 2: To me, like, if you don't want me there, all right, yes,
I'll tell everyone you don't want.
Speaker 1: Me there, thank you for saving me? Yeah, I would.
You know what the Irish used to be the dregs
of society.
Speaker 2: I know my grandmother told me all about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I wonder if she said she was she.
Speaker 2: Was black Irish? She said, I go, what does that mean, Grandma?
She goes, she is what she said. She says, you
were black on the inside. In other words, you were
like a black.
Speaker 1: Person you were. Yeah, I'm just telling you what Krahma said.
Speaker 2: And I learned that that's not the actual with the
actual term means that was what she thought it meant.
Speaker 1: Who was one hundred percent Irish? You know?
Speaker 2: But she says she was like like she remembers seeing
Irish need not apply signs.
Speaker 1: Yes, that in the twenties and thirties, Yeah, that stuff
is true. Yeah, because there were a bunch of hard
working drinkers.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, man, what'd you want the Irish working for you?
Because you know, that money is going to go right
back in your pocket. That would be the people I
want to hire. Like my great grandfather, my grandmother's father.
Every Friday he get paid, he'd go to the bar.
He'd come home and the money was gone. Jannap had
being raised by her aunt.
Speaker 1: That's not good. Yeah, we will take a moment. Uh.
I saw this article today and we'll go through it
a little bit. But in a world where women's sexuality
is still too often taboo. One reporter took a bold
leap and I would say, Brett David's is do you
live this to Berkeley? This is at Berkeley, Casey Berkeley
with his shirt off.
Speaker 2: We haven't talked to Berkeley, have we?
Speaker 1: I talked to him personally, but about a month AGO's
doing It's doing great, kid? Right, Yes he does. I
see him sometimes at the y Okay Cool. All right,
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Speaker 6: Dude, when they said these guys would never get back
together and they showed up when here on the Grammys.
Speaker 1: For the show. Yeah, but they really didn't get back together.
Wait for that, I guess it's back together.
Speaker 2: It's true, and nobody thought they'd never take the stage together.
Speaker 1: There's a specific line of this song on.
Speaker 7: It the dinner of our Rice Christmas, the distance.
Speaker 1: She left handed sting, Wait, go on, here we go
at the bottom of It's got a space. There's a
line in this song I wanted to get to like
I can't remember where it was.
Speaker 8: Like that was the yes, that is the line.
Speaker 1: I have felt like life has just been humiliating, kicking
the crotch lately. I just I don't know what's happening both.
I'm just honest to God, I go, what the flip
in that flat that flow that day?
Speaker 2: But imagine what it feels like for the rest of
the police. I, I don't know, humiliating, kick in the crotch.
Speaker 1: I have brought this up a few times. I don't
know maybe maybe secretly I want to do something like this,
but uh, I will ask. For Dan's birthday that was
last week, we gave Dan uh almond m and ms
because I was looking for the healthy veats with the
bad fat. And Dan, I just opened up the freezer
to get out of glass because yes, I'm having a Guinness,
joined me and he said, uh. I said, you want
your m and ms and he said yeah, and then
I could hear him crunching away. But the almonds sometimes
a little because I eat a lot of raw almend
to and almonds specifically. I don't know what kind I
eat regular I just eat raw. I don't know where
they're from. No no salt, no anything. But Danny was
crunching away and he goes, I think he'll be done
with this bag. And I wanted to say to you
in that moment, you know, there's probably some heavy metals in.
Speaker 2: There, plastic.
Speaker 1: There's some plastics and heavy metals inside that you better
get those out of.
Speaker 2: Your So I started adding ton Co salts and Brocos
sprouts to my diet.
Speaker 1: If did you you did the motherfucker I knew it.
Speaker 2: I was watching I was watching doctor Randa Patrick's Uh.
Speaker 1: Doc Geronda Patrick's who even knows who this is? Where
did on YouTube? Where did her degree come from? Oh,
she's a she's a biochemist.
Speaker 2: Okay from where I don't know, and use YouTube university,
but yeah, she's one of like she and Peter Atilla
and Andrew Huberman and others have become these like health experts.
And her big thing is, you know, is broncos sprouts
and Omega threes or broncos broco sprouts like those you
go to Wegmans, those little spouts you don't eat the broccoli.
These are the sprouts that become broccoli. It's like it's
almost like stem cells of broccoli. So you get it
just a few of them, and it gets a lot
of the broccoli and the sulfuric nutrients that your body
graves and needs. And then the omega threes with the
EPA and the d h A that actually helps you
lengthen your life and your health span. Tablespoon of that
tables every morning, I took a tablespoon of Carlson fish oil.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: No, they had eleven cent to it. Taste pretty good.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, just drink its. Leave me alone, all right? Okay,
if Beth said to.
Speaker 2: You, Yes, oh that's the answer. Yes, Beth, whatever you want.
Speaker 1: If Beth said, Dan, I want to I think we
should go on this sexual retreat, you would go, oh, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: If it's just the two of us, I'm not playing
patty Cake nobody else.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I have thought over the years.
And then she and what's that?
Speaker 2: Neither she?
Speaker 1: Neither is she? Neither she? I'm not playing paddy Cake
with anybody else.
Speaker 2: Neither is she? If I don't know where you're going
with that, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't going anywhere. Okay, A God, Jesus Christ. Sorry
so possessive? Well, yeah, my wife, I'm obsessive of my wife.
Of the sugar. The yes, I could tell sugar it's
way up already.
Speaker 2: The plastics are going to my brain.
Speaker 1: The yeah. I I thought we're so prudish in this
country and we don't talk about sexual pleasure and stuff
to the point where it's shamed, it's looked or I
think there's a lot of shame.
Speaker 2: Associated with it with expuritans.
Speaker 1: Would that be there to say?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: I just wonder like if you went to a sex therapist,
if you went and you had discussions with someone, or
you even went to a sexual surrogate, or you went
to one of these retreat type things. Would it make
your life better? I don't know. I think that true
intimacy comes from real communication, right, that would be what
I think true intimacy comes from. You can be intimate,
physically intimate with somebody and have it mean nothing. But
then you can have real intimacy where you're communicating and
you know what that person likes and they know what
you like, and they do this, and there's special things
and whatever. I just think that that's different. And apparently
there's one that's just for women, I think. And this
woman it was a three day women only orgasm retreat.
They learned how they did like rope, bondage and stuff.
This chick said, my name is so and so, and
I'm now into ropes. I'm looking for a man who
can die. That's what I'm saying. How much do you
think this is the game? A little? This three day
woman only orgasm retreat in a California desert went for.
Speaker 2: Ninety nine dollars three thousand.
Speaker 1: Pretty good. Pretty good? Let me see here so actual
retail right, Well, I'm going to tell you everything you got.
It's run by Pamela Madson and her team of sex educators,
also known as perverts, blown sex educators, blown anatomy, demos,
and sensual rituals, all designed to help women reclaim pleasure, confidence,
and connection with their bodies with hands on practitioners like
court Vox the only man allowed hand on practitioner. Huh
huh okay, seven hundred and fifty dollars bought an intro
experience to what some pay fifteen thousand dollars for, but
seven fifty All right? If your wife said to you, Dan,
I'm going to go to this it's women only orgasm retreat,
and I'm going to spend seven hundred and fifty dollars
of our money. Well, probably more than that because I
need to fly to get there.
Speaker 2: What do you say, Well, there better be a return
on that investment. NOI and ROI yeah yeah, if it's
an investment, I want to return.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So wait, how much how much is of you
and your time and her time is worth seven hundred
and fifty dollars, She could charge you that for one night?
Do you want to return on my investment? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whatever techniques you learn, you need to bring her
immediately home. Uh yeah, some retreats costing fifteen thousand dollars.
And according to this woman, her name is Jenna, and
Jana did this, she's a reporter. It wasn't just sex ed,
it was actually sexual awakening, she said, and is reclaiming
sexuality becoming a privilege of the wealthy because it's so expensive.
What does it mean when self discovery comes with a
price tag most can't afford? And that is sort of
the thing. But that's where the world's headed. Yeah, yeah,
because the whole marketing thing is if it's expensive, it's
gotta be great, and if it's not expensive, it can't
be worth it. Well, that's what they've trained us to believe.
Speaker 1: That is a that isn't just a that's a real thing. Yes,
that's a real thing, and in certain circles it's a
real thing. Especially you know.
Speaker 2: I could like Tony Robbins right, is a huge you know,
I mean, the guy's the guy's self made man, hundreds
of millions of dollars being a self help he just
like being called a guru, but a self help type
of coach. And he's gotten into finance, he's gotten into health,
he's gotten into all kinds of things. George Carlin always
had a joke about Tony Robbins. He said, if you
spend the money to go to a Tony Robbins seminar,
you don't need to go to a Tony Robins seminar.
Speaker 1: Like, if you're motivated to go, you don't need to go.
Speaker 2: Just put that motomation towards whatever it is you're chasing
out there, right And I think when it comes to
sexual stuff, if you the best things and supposedly in
life are free, you'll figure it out if you want.
Speaker 1: You don't need to go to.
Speaker 2: Some retreat to learn this stuff. But here's this other
thing that they have now that they didn't have before. YouTube.
Speaker 1: Everything you want to learn, yes, can be found. I
don't think sexual stuff can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can give you ideas though they hint
act it out, but they can kind of like talk
you through it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not that I would know. Fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's like one semester at Fisher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, for three days. Yeah, but your clytorist
gets more intention than LinkedIn that you're actually happy about
that for once? Rightfully, So my LinkedIn's getting someone. Uh yeah,
fifteen thousand dollars for I think most women would say
all I need is ten minutes a piece and quiet
without someone screaming mom, and I would be set free.
But I'm not sure. Yeah, the uh somebody.
Speaker 2: There are some women who can't orgasm.
Speaker 1: Well, there are some women who's men too. Seriously, Yeah,
there's men that. Yeah. Didn't we talk to somebody about
this last we did? Yes? Yes, go on. When you
say that, have you is that the excuse of women
have used with you? Is that? Is that? Why is that?
Speaker 2: My Christianity will who look at that? I think there's
I think there are some women who just can't. How
do you know, because they've said so, They've told me.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, that's what they're saying to you, Then that's
what they're saying.
Speaker 2: Uh huh years ago?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I know. Let their fingers do the one
the retreat filled. Some people say it filled gaps between
sex ad that we or gaps left by traditional sex AD. Well.
Speaker 2: Sex education is supposed to be education. Yes, it's still
taught in schools. It has to be done with a
certain element of class and sophistication. It can't just be
like all right, so now we're use a double sided.
Speaker 1: Well, you know somebody who's wrote in like, why are
women learning about their bodies in their thirties, forties, fifties
or later. Well, the thing is because everything was shunned,
and I think you get to a certain point in
life and go, well, not of anybody's business.
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is like when you're in your twenties,
you're usually with people in their twenties and they don't
know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: Those what they're doing. That's what I'm saying is to
get older and freer. Maybe going to one of those
things could be Some people say that it was a
very healing for them through erotic practices, which is odd, right,
because if you had trauma, neglect, shame, disconnection, and it
does raise the question, could sensuality and erotic play be
legitimate therapeutic tools and the thing would be better? Not
I don't want to find out. It would be creepy
that that's how guys get arrested. That's how it's usually
the male. Hey, you know what you need is an whatever, right,
let me help you out. I mean, do you like that.
I'd like the fact that we separate sex and healing. Yeah,
I would think, yes, that's that's all. Would you'd be okay?
If Beth wanted to go to one, I don't know.
I think it might be interesting if I went with her.
But it's a women's only I.
Speaker 2: Don't see that's that just invites trouble. You're opening the
door for trouble.
Speaker 1: What do you mean your vo Yeah? That's wait, how
are we doing that? How?
Speaker 2: I just I just you know, women get I don't.
Speaker 1: Know how women.
Speaker 2: So I we'll think about how men get when they're
together on there all going on trips stuff.
Speaker 1: We just get drunk. What Oh, I see what you're saying.
He's being like hooking up with other people.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot of that, especially marry guys.
I haven't seen that.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it with marry guys.
Speaker 1: But I know that guys, Oh, guys do single women
single women.
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, like you know, you gotta
experience yourself again. You gotta go back to the days
they kind of unlock. Though, not that I'll trust my wife.
I'm just saying, why invite that temptation?
Speaker 1: God? But if she came back like more renaissances That's
what I'm saying. When if she came back and they
did a whole rope thing, she got a whole rope thing.
She ties me up that she goes no count no,
she suspends herself from above the bed or something, and
you get to I remember being at somebody's house. Was
she pink? Yes? I remember being It.
Speaker 2: Didn't mean I met the artist.
Speaker 1: I know. I know you meant yeah, you'll be in
the pink. I remember. I have to be careful because
I don't want to out anybody's name, but I remember
being at somebody's house and getting pretty blasted and sitting
there at the end of the night, it's just me
and the couple, and the wife starts talking about the
sex swing they have. I want to see how much
she loves it. But I I kind of go, this
is probably by time to exit. And there was no offer.
Nothing was being offered, like a swinger thing. Nothing she
just mentioned. I could tell. The husband was like really mortified.
I was like, all right, let me get my humber
and can get out.
Speaker 2: I do this trick.
Speaker 1: But I thought, good for you. You know, there's many people
who aren't there. I don't think my parents didn't have swings,
they had a waterbed.
Speaker 2: Like like like the term like for years, missionary describes
what we thought of sex. In other words, it was
called a missionary position because what they saw a doggie style.
The doggy star I don't think existed until the nineties. God,
yes it did. Okay, I did had to do. You
think you got invented. I was snoop doggy dog.
Speaker 1: Okay, that physician has been around for this has been around,
But they don't know terminology doggy style. I thought, I
don't know. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was a nineties kid. Oh that makes sense, okay.
But the reason like the missionary term came to be
was because missionaries were.
Speaker 1: Considered pred and proper and puritan.
Speaker 2: And no, this is the only way. Even the Bible
doesn't say that's the only way to do that.
Speaker 1: No, the Bible doesn't go into these specifics. Oh, Jesus said,
jes didn't say anything. What he did?
Speaker 2: He said, a man and a woman become one. He
didn't say anything about sex. She didn't talk about sex.
Speaker 1: He said, Now did he really just asking? Didn't he?
He didn't say that what it's coming up on Easter?
Speaker 2: I thought he did not no, not in that Oh
okay nomenclature. I guess that's uh.
Speaker 1: It would be interesting. I kind of like the idea
when you were married, would you have gone along with that? Uh,
there you.
Speaker 2: Go, here's your answer.
Speaker 1: Oh I would have let my wife go. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What I have gone to would get weird for me.
I get weird with that kind of stuff again because
of society's societal norms and things. I think now, if
I were to do it, I would have to be
with somebody I'm really comfortable with. Uh. Yeah, I don't
know that I would have when I was married, which
I guess is a shame. I don't know. I don't
think it's a shame.
Speaker 2: I think it's just it just gets a state of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets weird like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of psychological dynamics in that.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I just to get off. I just think that.
I think it's very healthy for people to figure out
what works for them and be open and talking. That's all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And if you like in a
couple in a relationship, yes, absolutely right.
Speaker 1: And if you want to put somebody into a lasso
like Shira, like they're a piece of cattle going a
hog time.
Speaker 2: People are under five seconds. People are in the weird stuff. Dude,
what do you mean? What do you know unusual stuff?
Speaker 1: No, come on, we do. We've interviewed people on this
podcast those things, well, the ropes and stuff.
Speaker 2: It can be kind of fun, I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Blind folds huh?
Speaker 2: Do we a safe word?
Speaker 1: Noodless? That noodles? What is the weird? There's no blind folds?
Nos with? What with in your life? No blind folds? Lingerie,
there's nothing. What are you talking about? All right, we
gotta get out of here.
Speaker 2: Do we do four segments?
Speaker 1: No? No, we didn't. We didn't. I have to get
I gotta you. You know what I'm dealing with. Yeah,
I know before the smoke alarms exactly. I got it.
I just looked at the time. I got it. It's
a little stuff I gotta take care of. But we
went along with the Brett segment. We did about our
average time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean I understand Mayor Evans' concerns, but
there was no reason to do that to Brett.
Speaker 1: Who's mel Novak? I don't know.
Speaker 2: And he's dead okay, he died.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got a team. Is that kim Novak's
husband that said mel Novak, let's see mel Novak. Oh,
it looks familiar remembering mel Novak? Hollywood actor? Wasn't that
the planet Alp was from mel Novak? What he was? Uh?
That's known for his starring role in Bruce Lee's classic
Game of Death. I don't know, No, I don't remember that.
I don't know that's the peace broke. Well, guess what
The Game of Death walked took a while. Yeah, yeah,
I wonder if it was kim Novak's dead gold outside
all right for Dan Barillo, Beth go on that retreat.
I'm Bill Moran. Tell yourself, we'll see tomorrow. Not even
to know him we was up to. They wouldn't have
let us see him.