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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice

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mix in some vodka. Colored a podcast from the Mac

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of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor

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Chrysler Dotsjee Rahm. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well,

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hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pot on.

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Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the

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word about the pirate ship. I am so happy Danny

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came in. I was feeling low and not low, just

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like I got stuff going on, and you know, I

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got a fifteen year old at home and we're kind

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of button heads on this whole idea, like, well, you know,

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it's a little bit your fault. And I was like,

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you know, I mean most of it's mine. And I

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kind of pushed back and he said, no, none of

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this is my fault. And we can't look at things

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in life and do that. And I did say and

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I never thought I would say this, but I'm like, look,

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if you're a man, you you want to act like

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a man and be a man. This is where it's

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not that a woman can't. That's why I don't like

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saying that, but I just said a man's version of

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I want to talk about being He'll say, you know,

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I'm practically man. Yes you are. You're as big as

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you're bigger than some men. Yeah. Already speaking of the

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maid fifty, he didn't even think the dude. Yeah, So

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I go, okay, if that's the case, then you got

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to start taking this stuff on. And he's really really

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doing well, like changed a lot. This is a big

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stretch for him.

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Speaker 2: Should I be bigger for my age? Now that I

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think about Jabison? The fuck he's huge? No, okay, okod

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you're saying I'll getting self conscious for my gosh, Jameson

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really is huge.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I must have wasted all those years not lifting. No, Okay,

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I hope it's just I think it is. Okay, carry

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on with Jamison. Yes, being a man.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like, if you're gonna be the

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person in charge. And the reason I don't like saying

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be a man is because I don't. I don't want

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to discount women and I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody think this podcast thinks you're saying that unless.

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Speaker 1: You know somebody listen. I just said, I go, look,

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but you if you're going to own it, you got

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to own this and it's one hundred percent your stuff

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and it is your fault. And I said, you see me,

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and I have things and I'm working on it. I'm

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quiet about it, and I'm just moving forward. I don't

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need I don't need people interfering with stuff. I've got

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to plan and I'm working it and that's it. Own it,

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and I'm not looking for anybody to you know, and

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that's just the way we got to do it. But

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when you start coming in, oh, I didn't want to

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have this discussion. And it's not that big a deal,

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I said, that's not I'm not having the discussion about

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what you think it's about. I'm talking about the overall

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idea of not taking full responsibility and sharing some of

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the blame. I'm going to share some of the well,

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some of it's on you. Oh how right? Right? This

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was your whole venture, your whole idea, from beginning to end.

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You got to make it work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see Bill Gates go yeah, but Steve

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Jobs say it and yes, I mean maybe at some point.

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Speaker 1: But I was just like so that it's just been

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all that. And then Danny comes in here and I

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got I could get up and hug you last.

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Speaker 2: Night, every podcast, every podcast before the podcast, I pray,

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Lord God, let me be a blessing and not a

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jackass on the podcast. Every time you really and I

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think God comes back with what if we tried both?

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're a jackass at all.

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Speaker 2: I laughed, we asked.

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Speaker 1: I laughed so hard at some of the stuff yesterday.

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It was it was absolutely hysterical. Should we start out

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with something tonight that has a little more teeth in it?

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And by that I mean this is guy very important. Well,

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this some teeth to it. And it's Rochester where we

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do the We're in a suburb of Rochester, but it's

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the biggest city by where we do the podcast. And

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they've been making national news, and they've been making national

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news because they're a sanctuary city, and I believe have

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been since the mid nineties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Quasi Motive just the other day. It's Quasimdive,

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the hunchback another name sanctuary.

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Speaker 1: Sorry I went a long way for that. But the policies,

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so people who are for sanctuary cities feel like it

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builds trust between people who are coming to this country

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and the police force. If I don't feel like I'm

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going to be deported or I'm more apt to calling crime.

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looked up no stats to back it up, but I

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would say most people coming to this country, even if

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they're coming in illegally, aren't looking to make trouble. They're

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looking to make a better life. Does that mean they're

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all not making looking to make trouble. No, But I

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do think that the idea that a few.

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Speaker 2: Bad apples spoil the bunch spoils the whole bunch. I

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really do these the bad apples phrased then they spoil

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the whole bunch.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I really do, because I think that we focus

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on and I'm not saying, boy, horrible things have happened

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to people that have to live with that stuff for

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the rest of their lives. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Don j Don Trump Junior got so much crap for

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when Trump was president. The first time, he said, if

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I handed you a plate of skill or a bowl

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of skittles and they said five percent of them were poisoned,

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would you reach into skittles and eat them? And he

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got so much crap for that, But his point was

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these people aren't.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to be here. Yes, you're tempting faint. I'll take

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it to something else. But just to say these cities

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create create a haven. A lot of people feel for

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undocumented immigrants who have who have committed crime, making the

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communities less stuff less safe. I look, I don't know

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that you could get any less safe in Rochester no

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matter who came in. You know what, I'm saying, that

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city's already where well, I'm not trying to be rude.

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I'm just saying that that's sort of the thing. I

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do think that there is an economic toll that is hard.

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I have a hard time because it's human beings and

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I don't like seeing human beings being mistreated. I just

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think that that's horrible. So but I would say, yes,

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I agree, it's a toll economically in that anybody who

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shows up at the emergency room or whatever has to

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be seen, and it is covered yep. And it's covered

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out of things. And that's why sometimes local hospitals we

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have here maybe wherever you're listening, the hospital does a fundraiser.

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Part of it is to cover those costs. Yes, not always,

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but some of it is usually that way.

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Speaker 2: It's not just those acronyms on the back of your pace.

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Speaker 1: Now, No, and I think you know they've been Look,

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sanctuary city has been targeted federally, especially under Trump, to

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say we're not going to send any funding, uh, and

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that there's going to be trouble for non compliance with

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law enforcement. So that's where we are with Rochester. Rochester

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had a traffic stop by ice and RPD responded to

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the call as well. In sanctuary cities, the rule is

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the police don't get involved with other law enforcement ice.

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That's it is. That that's sort of in the city

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charter or whatever. Ok right, I'm just trying to break

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that down. That's how it works.

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Speaker 2: So if so to the letter of the law, right,

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they're not supposed to. But then there's this spirit, this camaraderie.

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Speaker 1: No, I understand, right, I understand, And look, yes, I understand. So, yeah,

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we all share the same duncan donuts parking right right,

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And and it's less they're saying, it makes it less safe.

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The city's left safe by preventing local police from cooperating

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with federal immigration enforcement. Okay, So that that that's where

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we are. So in Rochester that happened and local police helped.

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The borders are is saying that he's going to come

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to Rochester and he would like to sit down with

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the mayor and others. Now, can you take I don't

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know if can you? Can you tell me because I

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don't know. And I and what happened to the RPD officers.

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Were they suspended? Were they given a day without pay?

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I don't know specific? Okay, sorry, I don't know. I

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don't either. And I thought there was some kind of readA.

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Speaker 2: There was a press conference about it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but I didn't know if there was a repercussion.

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I don't know if there was repercussions. Okay, I don't

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know that part. Okay, And I'm going there's something that

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I'm leading up to with this. I thought there might

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have been. Forgive me as my life has been, as

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all of our lives, every single person. This is why

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your apartment no. But this is why I'm saying, well,

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it's suspended for ninety days.

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Speaker 2: The I tell Jameson, you gotta take your shoes off

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before you walk in the apartment.

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Speaker 1: The uh, I would say, like all of our lives

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get so busy, every one of us. That's why we're

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even putting out a condensed version so you can hear

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some of it if you have less time. But the headlines,

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like all we see are headlines, right, we don't read

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the story or we don't even.

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Speaker 2: Have And by the way, the media know that and

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will bait you into it if just believing the headline,

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if you don't read the story, you gotta be aware

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of that. And based on whatever website you're going to,

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I'm like, oh my gosh, I'll read the story. Wait

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a minute, that's not the shit. That's not what happened,

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right a few there's these aggregators who go out if

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you know what, you know what an aggregator is. They're

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not the person like Brett Davidson is a reporter. Yes,

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an aggregator would take what Brett Davidson did and then

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write a spin story about it and take.

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Speaker 1: Credit hand Brett Davidson is from Channel ten. No, no,

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I know, I know the IT team. Yeah, no, I understand.

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I think that he's been referred to as something else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard about this. Yeah, it starts with L

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rhymes with user. Yes, of all people in Rochester, that guy.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. But here's the thing, I don't

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know what happened with the RPD. They may have been.

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I thought there was some kind of pushback' it may

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bee a suspension. Remember this, the chief serves at the

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pleasure of the mayor. The mayor appoints who the chief is. Okay,

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it's not an elected position. Its appointed by the chief

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by the mayor, and so therefore really he kind of

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is the mayor the lead over that. And the city

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charter does say exactly what I just said. For sanctuary cities,

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police do not get involved with ice. They're on their

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own to take care of whatever. We don't get involved.

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and just helped get them in a man. I don't know, Okay,

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Brett Davidson. They talked to the border czar yesterday. Yes,

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and did you see that interview. I didn't see the interview.

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I saw that he talked to him. Okay, So he's

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been they've been trying to get the mayor to talk

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to them, and the mayor they feel like may have

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been ducking them. I don't know Mayor Evans.

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Speaker 2: But he came on this podcast once.

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Speaker 1: By accidents, he was he tripped over he uh so

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Mayor Evans was announcing party in the park and they

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were at the Record Archive. It's a record store, instrument

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store in the in the Greater Rochester area. And uh,

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Brett went because he was going to be taking uh off,

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I want to say, off issue questions, because it wasn't

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take questions about other things other than party in the park.

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And here is how the.

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Speaker 3: Morning Mayor Malik Evans had a public event to announce

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the party in the park line ago, and his assistant

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said he'd be available for off topic questions afterward.

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Speaker 1: Off topic questions. Correct, you put that so succinctly, And

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I like, I love Brett. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 3: But following the event, the mayor hastily started to leave,

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was less than eager to talk with me and started

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with the insults.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's it's I watched this. I don't mind

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Malik Evans. I didn't mind him when he was the

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school board. I know you don't like him.

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Speaker 2: I don't like him. I still like the city of

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Rochester in general. Okay, right now, so I'm just watching this.

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As the mayor goes, so goes the city.

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Speaker 1: Well I always say so goes as the city suburbs,

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and so I just said with with mayor Evans. Uh,

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I want you to think of of I want you

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to listen to it. I want you to listen to him.

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And and I understand, I think everybody can understand. But

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the one thing I have said for many, many, many

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years is adults need to learn to control their emotions. Okay,

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so he keeps a lid on it, but does he

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listen to this? Here we go, Brett, he's a loser. Brett,

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I don't talk to him. He's a loser. Why, Like,

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right right there, I go, that's too that's too much.

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Speaker 2: You went from zero to well one hundred in the

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span of like a couple of seconds.

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Speaker 1: But this is the same thing that I had the issue.

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Remember we had the issue with Lovely Warren when we

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were on the radio together. We had her on and

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she and I went back and forth.

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Speaker 2: She came to the studio yea, and then she immediately

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before the MIC's were on, like I didn't like what

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you He goes and you said, to your credit, I

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don't talk until the bikes around. I did say that,

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and Tommy and Tommy looked at me like when his

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glasses he told.

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Speaker 1: I was pissed around because she was coming in to

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start a fight and she's gonna scold me. And this

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was over the fact that I had a At the time,

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it was who Lightfoot brought her und it was Willie

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brought her in. But there was the This was a

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mother and a daughter had gotten into a fight in

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the city of Rochester and it sort of spilled into

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the street. Cops were called. They show up and they're

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they're separating the parties. One officer is talking to the

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mother who's sitting on the on the steps of the porch.

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There were a bunch of people had come out right

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chaos in the street and putting They were putting the

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woman into handcuffs, black woman, white officer. She all of

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a sudden, what we saw was the white officer on

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the back of the head smacked her up like kind

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of the back of the head, like hey, you know,

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maybe your pair parents did that to you. Maybe an okay,

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I'm just saying, but not something that we would expect

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an officer.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm six four.

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Speaker 1: So then Adam McFadden calls me and goes, hey, man,

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there's another angle of that tape and it's not really out.

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I'm going to send it to you. And in that

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angle of the tape. What you saw was the woman's

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hand reached back then either the gun or his balls,

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but either one, and he just kind of real yeah,

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just to hey, don't touch me, cut the ship. Yeah,

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that's what it was. This became a big thing, and

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it became a black white issue, and Lovely Warren was

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not mayor yet and she went on a podcast radio show.

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It was Facebook with people who didn't even live in Rochester,

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who were talking about Rochester. It was horrible, horrible to

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really listen to. Just in terms of acoustics. I'll say that, like,

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it didn't sound good because everybody's in different They're all

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like on phones, it's on Facebook, yelling and do it.

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I'm no idea what's happening. So we have her in

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and I said to her she was trying to make

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this a black white issue, and I said to her,

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what happens? Like I let her go for a minute,

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and then I go, what happens when you go home

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and your kids are going crazy? And she's like, I

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talked softly. I said, really, I go and it brings

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the level down. She goes, yeah, I go, that's funny

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because I do the same thing with my kids. And

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I'm white and you're black, so that's isn't an orasisue.

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This is a human issue. And she said, well, a

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black officer talked. I said, no, a veteran officer talked.

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A veteran officer. How many years is he on the job.

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She's like, oh, he was like twenty sons. I said, right,

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I go, so, maybe what you have in the city

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of Rochester is not a what were they calling it

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at the time, a cultural problem? Have a cultural problem

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you have? Yeah, she kept saying, you don't get the culture.

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I'm going, this is a human being problem. Take me

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to any culture where there is something that needs law

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enforcement and try to show me where there's cultural differences.

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Every human being gets heightened, and you've got to be

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a person to talk it down. You've got to keep

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your emotions in check. That's why a veteran police officer

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can certainly hidle it. I'm sure there are veteran police

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officers who were burned out from that stuff, but whatever.

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That's all I'm saying is more experience, and I truly

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believe that human beings are human beings, and when the

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shit hits the fan, the ship hits the fan. For everybody,

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there's chaos, emotions, you're screaming and yelling. Look at show

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me any chaotic thing around the world, and what we

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see pretty much the same thing you'd see everywhere if

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that happened, you know what I mean. And that was

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but I so that's sort of most.

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Speaker 2: Of the people are bystanders. They're not like participant. But

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it looks worse than it really is.

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Speaker 1: And then after that she wouldn't really talk to me

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and clammed up. Yeah, but she was. But she was

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even saying like after that, like later on, I tried

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to get her on Chose and she was a little

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stand office with me for the same thing. And I'm going,

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all I did was my job. You do your job.

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I'm not saying you're bad at your job. I'm disagreeing

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with you. If if we can't have a discussion and

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a disagreement, then you you're you know what I'm saying,

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right this this ironclad So to call Brett Davidson a loser, Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Christ, Yeah, that's not just looks it looks awful. It

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looks awful, and it looks awful to a dude who

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has done so much for the community as a professional

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who has really like helped Rochester. He and Berkeley bring

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both are like the last of a dying breed of

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a reporter in Rochester.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, but just the respect is human beings. You're a mayor,

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you can't.

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Speaker 1: All the reason calling him a loser is you. He

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did an interview you didn't like. They wanted to see

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it because the Tzar said he would sit down with

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the mayor. And there's been no movement allegedly from the

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mayor's office. But Malik Evans puts forward something that I

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think is very valid in this. But what's your question?

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Do it quickly? I gotta go, do it quickly, I

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gotta go. Okay, So Brett's just standing there and it's

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been called a loser? Right, all right? Here we go,

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all right now? Quickly would be what in your mind?

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What would quickly be if if somebody's in a rut?

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Watch quickly?

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Speaker 2: Well real quick, mister mayor, is it truly are you

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going to meet with the tzar? Have you taken him

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up on his Uh.

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Speaker 1: Give me a time length? How long would you expect

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about a minute? Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the Tom Homan interview.

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Speaker 1: Did you watch it? No, I didn't watch it. Okay,

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no I didn't watch it.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't No, I didn't watch it. No, I didn't

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watch it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well he said, what about it? If I didn't

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watch it, wouldn't I say I didn't know? You interviewed him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Right, and now even if I watched it. Yeah, my

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answer back, if it's me may Or Moran would say,

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I don't know. You talked to him. Well, he talked

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to him. What did he say? What did he say?

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Speaker 3: Well, for starters, he said that he would be willing

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to meet with you in the police.

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Speaker 1: Now, the reason before anybody jumps on me because I

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just did what do you say? The reason I'm saying

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it that way is not to mimic our mock Malik Evans.

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He doesn't speak this quickly. He's frustrated, his emotions. He's frustrated.

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Speaker 2: He's coming out of his basement.

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Speaker 1: Call the guy loser called that. He's talking quickly, he's agitated,

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just saying if.

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Speaker 3: If that was something that you would be wanting to

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do and just wanted to ask you your thoughts about that,

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Is that something that you would consider?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm glad you here a party in

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the park. We're gonna have a great show with party

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in the park winning.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but but again even there, like if you could

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almost just slow it down, you know what, Brett, I

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believe you and I should speak about this another time.

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But we're here to talk about partying in the park.

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We're excited for partying in the park. I know news

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TENANBC has been part of it, like that would be

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my thing.

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Speaker 4: But in terms of your question regarding Homan, I have

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not talked to him. I have not heard that, and

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I really don't respond the hypotheticals. And if we have

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something to announce, you'll be the first one to know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but thank you. Okay, So now I would expect

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that that would be it right if he turned on

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his heels, even if Brett asked to follow up, just

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walk away.

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Speaker 3: Ask you a couple other questions about what he had

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to see.

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Speaker 4: One more quick Brett, I got another, I got another

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event I did not plan on your and you asked

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the question move quickly.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay. I'm just saying, like anybody, anybody in power,

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you can be mad and you can go Look, guys,

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I didn't like the way things were done or whatever.

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But this is you know, now, I'll try to explain

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what I think the mayor means in a second, and

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you can do question well. He said.

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Speaker 3: In talking about sanctuary cities, he says, because they have

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to bring more resources into sanctuary cities for the safety

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of their officers. That quote Rochester wants to be a

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sanctuary city, They're gonna get exactly what they don't want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, they're gonna get exactly what they don't want.

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This is where they're talking about. And I don't know

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if you can pull federal funding for non compliance with

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immigration enforcement requests. I don't know that you can do that.

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I don't I'm not sure in terms of federal I'm

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not a lawyer. I don't know. That is a sticking point,

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I think, but that that's sort of what the czar

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was alluding to, right, the borders are is basically they go, oh,

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they're gonna get what they want because you're not gonna

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get any funding. We're not gonna help you, right.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that means. I don't have the

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context of that, but let me tell you something. We

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always make sure that we support any law enforcement person

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that comes in. We've made that clear. I said what

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I said. I think you saw the release. I would

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ask you to play that again.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right there, Like even that I think is fine.

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The way he's talking, he's he started slowing down, slowing down,

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and he could be mad. Please don't take this you

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want to be I don't have to agree with you,

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but it is okay. So this part, I'm all right.

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Speaker 2: Because Brett's doing his job. The mayor's try try.

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Speaker 1: To do his job. The loser stuff come on, right.

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Speaker 4: But again, we always back up off. We always back

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up law enforcement. We always have Maplewood Park, other murders

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and things that we have, we've had support from other

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law enforcement officers. We will always support other law enform

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enforcement officers. But in terms of the political element of this,

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which I think Brett you might be a part of.

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I think you're a part of this political element that's happened.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's hit in personal I know it is. But

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what I think he's saying is you're the only one

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to interview this guy. Why did they get to you

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to say that's that's what he's painting it as. Is

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that true? I don't think so. I don't think so. No,

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I think it's been talked about nationally and.

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Speaker 2: It's very rare that the media gets accused of being

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on that side. Well politics, Yeah, very rare. Yeah, unless

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they worked for.

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Speaker 1: Fox Okay, right, right, seriously, sure, and I thought the

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mayor up to that point was pretty good. But he's pissed, right, Yeah, Okay,

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So here we go.

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Speaker 4: We don't have don't I don't have time for playing

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politics with policing or playing politics with public safety. We

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have serious issues in this community that we have to

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deal with and that is what I am interested in

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making sure that we take care of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know how you do it. I mean,

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honest to God, I mean as much as we you know, go,

470
00:24:36,519 --> 00:24:39,839
how do we once we start turning to the government

471
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,759
to be our babysitters? Yeah, I've always felt that.

472
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 2: Famously, President Reggedd say the nine worst words you ever

473
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,400
want to hear is hi, I'm from the government and

474
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,039
I'm here to help.

475
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess he did.

476
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I mean that's true. That should be your

477
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,119
last resort. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately now we have society

478
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,960
have over the last two twenty five thirty years, have

479
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,680
been trained to go government.

480
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,559
Speaker 1: First, we keep trying to look at him to go

481
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,880
what the fuck is going on? Because you're the mayor

482
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:11,480
and east End isn't what it used to be and

483
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:13,200
this isn't what it used to be, but it's not

484
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:17,759
what it used to be because crime has come in, right,

485
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,319
and you know, is it the catch? And really I

486
00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:21,720
don't know.

487
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,559
Speaker 4: The citizens of Rochester not playing politics with policing, not

488
00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,079
them using Brett Davidson as a political hack to be

489
00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:29,559
able to do that. We want to make sure that

490
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:32,680
we are putting our residence and that's the movie.

491
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: What is that supposed to mean? Using me as a political.

492
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,839
Speaker 4: I don't know, Brett. You have to go back and ask,

493
00:25:36,839 --> 00:25:38,279
but I think that that's what I'm hearing. I'm hearing

494
00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:39,359
that they're using what do you hear?

495
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: Okay, anytime somebody I'm gonna for those of you listen

496
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,440
to this, anytime anybody ever uses the phrase what I'm

497
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:52,519
hearing is, yeah, is an immediate red flag in business,

498
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:56,559
in life. Yeah, never use the phrase what I'm hearing

499
00:25:56,799 --> 00:26:00,319
is because now you're opening yourself up to you are

500
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,599
making it all about you in your opinions.

501
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,279
Speaker 1: It also or you're putting yourself in a hotspotbody goes,

502
00:26:08,319 --> 00:26:10,200
I want to know where you heard this from? Yeah,

503
00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:13,920
because what if it's true? Now, it is interesting that

504
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,319
I only to just put a little light on the

505
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,559
mayor's point. I don't know that anybody else in town

506
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,559
has talked to the borders are So why is Brett

507
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,400
the piece that is that's what he's alluding to. I

508
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,440
don't think I think that's news. I think it was

509
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:32,119
a guy just doing his job. Yeah.

510
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,559
Speaker 2: I have a pretty good idea because I think that

511
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,480
I gotta be careful saying this because I got well, No,

512
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:42,279
I don't want to be honest. I know that everybody

513
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:45,519
works hard at each station, but I think that you

514
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:50,680
know right now, Brett and Berkeley are Jennifer Luky I

515
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,200
think her name is Yes, Yeah, they're the only ones

516
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,119
really reporting any freaking news.

517
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Listen, the other people are. I'm not counting the anchors no, No,

518
00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,759
I'm not talking aout the ankers.

519
00:26:59,759 --> 00:27:00,799
Speaker 2: I'm talk what the reporters.

520
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 5: No.

521
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: I think most of the reporters are young and there, Yeah,

522
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,319
and they don't know the city. These are people who

523
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,640
have built their lives here. Yeah, they have built their

524
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,640
ELSEIL thirteen.

525
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: And Channel eight have a lot of stop reporters, and

526
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,519
I'm not knocking them. They're using Rochester to get onto

527
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:18,400
Cincinnati or Chicago or Dallas.

528
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: They're not. They don't want to stay here.

529
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,559
Speaker 2: Maybe some of them do, the anchors kind of do,

530
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,240
but like I think, mostly the reporters don't. It's like

531
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,519
Rochester has now become like an Erie Pennsylvania, or an

532
00:27:28,519 --> 00:27:31,480
Elmira or a Binghamton, where now this is not your

533
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,400
second stop out of college, this is off of your

534
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,799
first stop out of college, or you didn't get much

535
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,880
many reps in the previous stopic and so now the

536
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,519
only person who's doing real actual news are the guys

537
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,119
who could always do a real actional actual news.

538
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: Here we go. It's just what I'm here. Who's they you?

539
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,519
And who's they you? Who Day? The Bengels? Who Day?

540
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,400
But who's they? Said? Brad? Because it's you. Uh, I'm

541
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,559
sure that that is an opinion of people. I don't

542
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,519
know that it's fact. And so if he's hearing it

543
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,039
and it makes sense to him, yeah, yeah, you could

544
00:28:10,039 --> 00:28:12,279
see what that's what everybody? Who are you hearing it?

545
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: Probably probably the interview that you gave. But but again,

546
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,759
public staty is on number one priority. We have not

547
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:20,920
heard from the interview mister Holman yet, and again we don't.

548
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,960
We don't talk in hypotheticals. But if we hear from him,

549
00:28:24,079 --> 00:28:25,920
we'll take it from there, and when we have something

550
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,880
to announce, we will make sure that we announce it.

551
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,559
But thank you very much and thanks for being at

552
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:31,359
Party in the Park. I hope we see everybody there

553
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:32,240
starting in July.

554
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:34,759
Speaker 2: By the way, is do they have any original bands

555
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:36,200
playing at Party in the Park?

556
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,519
Speaker 1: Was suggested for the record.

557
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:41,559
Speaker 3: I didn't speak to anyone about the interview with home

558
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,920
and nor did anyone facilitate that interview. I reached out

559
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,839
directly to Homeland Security in Washington inquiring about his willingness

560
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:50,960
to speak with us after he said he'd be coming

561
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,000
to Rochester, and I heard from their communications people within

562
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:54,640
ninety minutes.

563
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Wow, there you go. I mean, he just did what

564
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:59,519
a reporter does. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. That's what

565
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,640
that that that's what I mean. But can you see

566
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:06,000
from the mayor's point, the only reporter that talks it's

567
00:29:06,039 --> 00:29:09,079
an attack against me. But we got to get out

568
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:11,640
of that mindset. If it's an attack against me, yeah,

569
00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:15,559
it's not. You are a sanctuary city. There are these bylaws.

570
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,599
I get it these, but we're in a wild time

571
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,000
right now. I don't know what you do. I don't

572
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:24,559
know what you do because there you.

573
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:29,839
Speaker 2: Know, I think, but Mayor inherited Lovely Warren's mess and

574
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,000
the late David Gantz mess because she was his, she

575
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:37,519
was his installation. Let's be honest. Okay, thanks Stuffy for

576
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,079
going to become lieutenant governor. We're still paying for your mistakes.

577
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,640
But anyway, the point is, though, is that Mayor Evans

578
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,880
actually had an out. He actually slowed down and could

579
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,799
have made this a very We don't deal in hypotheticals.

580
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,519
All he had to do was slowed down and actually

581
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:57,440
have the guts to just yell talk to you, Brett,

582
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,039
What do you want to know?

583
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,359
Speaker 1: If he were trained to do that properly. But he's not.

584
00:30:02,759 --> 00:30:05,839
Speaker 2: He's got a horrible pr team polished.

585
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna jump in there because

586
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,319
I think that I hear what you're saying. I know

587
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:15,680
what you're saying, like there is okay, but I would

588
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,079
go one step further. I would take it as I'm

589
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:22,119
a leader and I got to act like a leader

590
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,240
and think like a leader, which he didn't do right

591
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,200
in that moment. Now, I can understand getting mad, but

592
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,960
to be caught on a hot mic calling I don't

593
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,400
talk to him, he's a loser, and he's standing right there,

594
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,319
and then you turn around. You didn't run away, you stood.

595
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,400
And that's why I asked you a time. I thought

596
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,480
he spent a lot of time for a guy who

597
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:45,279
had to go so quickly, I thought he spent a lot.

598
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually did spend a couple minutes, and I'll

599
00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:50,480
give him that, right, So all of that could have

600
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,200
been painted in a different picture if you went.

601
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:56,079
Speaker 1: You know, Brett, I was told you did the interview.

602
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:58,400
I didn't get to see it yet. I know that

603
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,079
they're allegedly, but we haven't heard from them, and once

604
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:04,759
we do, I will certainly let you know whatever. But

605
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:07,680
the whole point of this is, so what does this

606
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:10,920
mean for anybody else listening anywhere else? It means, as

607
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,079
an adult, get those emotions under control, right, It would

608
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:18,519
be so much cooler and calmer and everything, because that's

609
00:31:18,519 --> 00:31:21,240
a TV camera. But you're caught on camera every day,

610
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:24,960
You're somebody's watching you somewhere lose your shit, You'll end

611
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:27,160
up on YouTube. Yeah you know what I mean? Right,

612
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:28,880
be that person you don't end.

613
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:31,079
Speaker 2: Up do you remember, like you even watching the OJ

614
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,079
trial stuff on Netflix stuff? When Robert Shapiro got hired

615
00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:36,880
to be OJ's lawyer, right, they immediately catch up with

616
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,240
him once they found out that he would.

617
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:39,519
Speaker 1: This is before OJ was charged.

618
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: And he goes. OJ Sipson was awaiting a limo ride

619
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,039
at ten point fifteen at his house, like indl the words,

620
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:47,920
he painted a picture to make it sound like OJ

621
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:49,839
had nothing to do with this. He's a victim of

622
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,039
circumstance and he always and they asked him, They go,

623
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:53,519
how did you notice say that? He goes, I've been

624
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:54,200
doing this forever.

625
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,519
Speaker 1: He goes.

626
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: You never give a no comment. You always want to

627
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,440
give up, even if people see right through it.

628
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,759
Speaker 1: You always want to give a confident, it polished comment.

629
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:02,599
And he had.

630
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: Brett gave him the opportunity to do that, and he

631
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:06,759
let his emotions.

632
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Get what I'm saying, and believe me as a guy

633
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,079
who's hot headed, and you saw me in some real

634
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:12,960
hot headed I.

635
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: Have first week I worked with you, Yes, stopping with

636
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,119
the folds.

637
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,359
Speaker 1: Of trying to do an interview.

638
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:25,079
Speaker 2: You're interviewed Castro's brother, right, Fidel Castro's brother, or guy

639
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:27,559
went to school with him? Yeah, better interviewed all the

640
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:32,880
other stupid station. I did scream that I guess who

641
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,680
was back there, answered the floats. But but but yeah,

642
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,039
I mean, I want to give the mayor the benefit

643
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,960
of the doubt. I really do. He had a chance

644
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,599
to look mayoral, presidential. That's the thing in that instant.

645
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: But even with like your kids and everybody, if you

646
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:55,160
can just take a take that proverbial beat, find a

647
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,519
way to put a little distance between your knee jerk

648
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:02,319
reaction and what you actually do. If you can put

649
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:05,480
a little buffer in there, I'm telling you your life

650
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,160
will be a lot easier because you'll start to see

651
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:11,160
let everybody else go chaotic. But man, when you stay cool,

652
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,200
calm and collected, it's great. When you're caught on a

653
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,599
hot mic calling a reporter a loser, I don't talk

654
00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:19,319
to that loser, and then you turn around and talk

655
00:33:19,359 --> 00:33:22,480
to the loser. Yes, you know, you're kind of you're

656
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,279
in a catch twenty two. And I get it, Danny,

657
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:31,160
I have said, you know, oh yeah, you know, I said, horrible, horrible, shit,

658
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:32,759
terrible stuff.

659
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: Awful things into and not into a microphone.

660
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,359
Speaker 1: Yes, and I you know I live and I die

661
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:39,680
by that.

662
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: But you mentioned that live and you die, you always

663
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,319
try to live, to live, to live, to fight another day.

664
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: Sure, and the mayor could have.

665
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:49,799
Speaker 2: To say, Brett, you know what, I'll sit down with

666
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:51,200
you this week if we want to talk about it.

667
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,559
Let me watch your interview, and that way he can

668
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,720
be prepared and like Breck Agrilla, but he'll have the

669
00:33:56,839 --> 00:33:59,240
pr crafted answers already ready to go.

670
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: Even if you don't listen, at least it puts a

671
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,319
good face on it.

672
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,319
Speaker 2: I'll tell you he looked like he was hiding. And

673
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,759
I want to like Mayor Evans. I want to root

674
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:10,000
for him because the better he does, the better Rochester does.

675
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,679
I want this dude to succeed. I wanted him to

676
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,639
beat Lovely Warm. I want there to be a better Rochester.

677
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,079
Speaker 1: Whatever city you're in. Yes, I would say that. You

678
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:19,079
know that. That's the thing.

679
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: Is Mayor Brown and Buffalo doing anything anymore?

680
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's I think he's working

681
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,480
for a room. I'll tell you something that I can't

682
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,599
say on the microphone and there's a reason why about

683
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:31,719
something out of Buffalo. But I can't say, dude, Mayor

684
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,519
Brown was cool.

685
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,639
Speaker 2: That whole city like had had a renaissance under that man.

686
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,199
Speaker 1: Do you wanna all right, Well, we'll take him moment

687
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,119
here and I will ask you if you would like

688
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:48,679
to talk about a sexual retreat that people have been

689
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,239
going on? Okay, okay? Or would you like to talk

690
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:58,079
about a professor with a side gig? Okay, sony professor.

691
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,599
Speaker 2: All professors have side gigs.

692
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: This is as a suning professor.

693
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: He's paid for it by the state.

694
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, within a uh less than ethical sidekick.

695
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So are they gonna take away his pension?

696
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,199
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's talk about he might not have

697
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,960
been tenured. Oh, that makes all the difference that may

698
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,119
he might not have been tenured. Let's talk about bTB.

699
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,280
Would fire Piece and grill on the mall of Grease

700
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,119
reads Danny. Oh, the food is so good there and

701
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:28,119
the brunch is phenomenal. And I know that there was

702
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,719
as of Monday, and we're recording this on Wednesday, so

703
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,039
you're running out of time. There was only three reservations

704
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left for their Easter brunch. And the reason I would

705
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suggest their brunch so much more than any buffet brunches.

706
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It's not above a brunch. No buffet food gets cold.

707
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Everybody else is there. Do you ever look at the

708
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people in the buffet lines. I mean, I don't mean

709
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to be rude. I'm just saying, but this is when

710
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it's made for you. It's brought out to you. And

711
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there's no Dixie plates that are like the pilling over

712
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the size of literally a frisbee. Yes, you've got the

713
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,880
great Belgian waffle with the cookies and cream. You've got

714
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,239
a burrito. It's bigger than Baby Jesus, and they put cheese.

715
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,559
It's big. I'm just saying it's big. Yes, I know.

716
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: And that and Matt he's like, already Buco will come

717
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to your table and say, hey, thanks for coming to

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the place. The food doesn't beautiful.

719
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Speaker 1: Just say, I didn't know Matt Reeves very well until

720
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,599
we started the podcast. I'm very impressed by that guy. Yeah,

721
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,679
and he works and puts his money where his mouth is.

722
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He does. They're short on he's gone back of nights

723
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to help out. You know, he runs it, but he's

724
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right in there along.

725
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Speaker 2: He runs bTB the way the Dallas Cowboys are run

726
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:45,639
like financially, they make a ton of money. Yes, they

727
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,239
don't win on the field, but they're a great business. Yes,

728
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,039
Matt Reese is a great businessman, right.

729
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Speaker 1: But I and look baseball. You like going in and

730
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catching a baseball game. They've even got TV's on their patio.

731
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,119
When the weather gets a little nicer, you can probably

732
00:36:58,119 --> 00:36:59,760
sit out there. Oh, that's a perfect place to watch

733
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the ball. It is, it really is. I'm just saying

734
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bTB would fire Pizson Grill. It is in the mall

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has described the eighties. I used to think these two

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dudes were brothers because so much alike.

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Speaker 1: They won't even related. Yeah, they do look like from.

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Speaker 2: Deser fears Don Henley did this song the last time

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Speaker 1: Saw what a treat that was. They nailed it too.

767
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So a professor had a side gig. I want here's

768
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a very boring reporter from Canton, New York. Do you

769
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know where Canton is? Uh, middle of the state, Yeah, yeah,

770
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by Syracuse, Uh yeah, around there, somewhere in the desolate

771
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part of the between Syracuse Utica about of farm stuff

772
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and things.

773
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Speaker 5: There, yeah, and then digital news desk. A former Sunny

774
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,280
Canton professor is accused of taking bribes from students in

775
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exchange for higher grades. A police was a forty five

776
00:39:49,039 --> 00:39:53,079
year old Raji Nirula of Canton on Tuesday, Okay, cases

777
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:57,079
eight felon accounts of third degree bribery. According to court documents,

778
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Nirula is accused of.

779
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Speaker 1: Taking Hey, folks, I'd like to on our first day,

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Speaker 2: Was this last day, Rajiv Narula?

783
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I am Narula of this classroom, Nadeev Rajiev Narula.

784
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,800
Excuse me. It's facing eight filony bribery counts.

785
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Speaker 2: Felonies for that.

786
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, suting under the table cash payments in exchange

787
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for higher grades. And I hope it was worth it

788
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:27,960
because how much are you paying? What can a college

789
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:29,159
kid pay you? Right?

790
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Speaker 2: They don't even tip for pizza.

791
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Speaker 1: In a Sunni school in the middle of nowhere.

792
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,639
Speaker 2: Could be mom and dad.

793
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: Well yes, but I mean, oh, probably is mom and dad. Yeah.

794
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,159
So this went on in twenty twenty one and twenty

795
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,239
twenty two to take to put you in the Jennifer

796
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,480
business today, who was fired in twenty twenty three. Here's

797
00:40:47,519 --> 00:40:55,679
the broader issue, the skyrocketing tuition that we see in colleges,

798
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:59,760
to the buying of access to elite schools. We had

799
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,079
that old scandal. Oh yeah, the Lorie Locklan Laurie Becky.

800
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Speaker 2: From Full House Yeah, and Felicity Huffman I think yes,

801
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,199
from Desperate Housewives.

802
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

803
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Speaker 2: They were both like trying to like snow plow their kids.

804
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:15,239
They called snowplow parents, snowplow their way for their kid

805
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to get into USC.

806
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Speaker 1: Access to elite schools in USC is a bit of

807
00:41:19,199 --> 00:41:22,599
an academic it is. And so you go, are you

808
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,920
surprised everything's so transactional with schools? Are you surprised that

809
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,320
this went on, or or let me praise that and go,

810
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:33,719
this ain't the only place is probably happening.

811
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Speaker 2: No, of course not.

812
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: It's probably not. If you're if you get.

813
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: A bribe, you know, if you get the money to

814
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,039
bribe somebody at Sunny campon, you couldn't get into like

815
00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:43,960
Penn State or something.

816
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: This is why Gate, this is why I'm wondering, like, literally,

817
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,519
could it have been it.

818
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Speaker 2: Will save money on tuition at a Suny school?

819
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: Fifty? Do you understand? What could it have been that low?

820
00:41:56,519 --> 00:41:58,559
I want to know the dollars? The thing so I

821
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:02,000
remember your bribe? We go secdre was much.

822
00:42:02,159 --> 00:42:04,639
Speaker 2: There was a college football coach I think that his

823
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,920
name is Rick new Heithel who end up losing his

824
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:10,239
job because he was betting on an NCAA tournament pool.

825
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:12,800
And the question is, okay, but if the tournament pool

826
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,599
is like, what's the what's the dollar about?

827
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: Right?

828
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: If it's five dollars a person and in the winter

829
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:21,199
wins like two hundred and fifty bucks, who cares? But

830
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,519
if it's in the thousands, now we gotta like get

831
00:42:23,559 --> 00:42:24,400
some suspect over it.

832
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the thing is that sounds like somebody

833
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:28,239
they want out.

834
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 2: Yes, right, we need to find an excuse.

835
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: And here's the thing I want to know. How did

836
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,599
you find out who told you that he was taking bribes?

837
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,039
Did they set him up in some way?

838
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:43,199
Speaker 2: Brett Davidson said, his kid there a loser. Yeah, yeah,

839
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,480
and he did some investigative journalism. He wore the little

840
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,119
Heraldo camera and he went in and tried to bribe

841
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,400
doctor Narula.

842
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Speaker 1: And he makes you wonder, like, how about the students

843
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,519
that it didn't pay?

844
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

845
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,639
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What now? Okay? Is it okay? Tokay?

846
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:02,559
Speaker 2: Paper here? But Becky here's got to be but she's

847
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:05,360
paying for an A so uh you one a plus.

848
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: Look, the thing is, what if he grades on a curve?

849
00:43:09,039 --> 00:43:13,880
What's where's the curve? Why wouldn't you let a student

850
00:43:14,039 --> 00:43:20,960
make money? So this kid's really got to help him out. Yeah,

851
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,159
and then this kid goes twenty bucks case of beer.

852
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:26,039
I don't know. I don't know because they don't even

853
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:31,079
wonder what happens to if this gets out this in particular,

854
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:36,400
Soony Sunny Canton, what happens to the power of the

855
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:37,559
degree over time?

856
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,039
Speaker 2: Well, it is Sunny Canton and up until today, I

857
00:43:41,039 --> 00:43:43,760
really had never heard of Sunny Canton, So no news

858
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,440
is bad news for Sunny Canton. At this point, they

859
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,639
could come out and say we've.

860
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: Gotten rid of the problem.

861
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 2: Please come visit our hey, Buffalo Bills, if you're looking

862
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,199
for a new college after Saint John Fisher, we'd love

863
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:54,719
to have you.

864
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 1: What what was he teaching? Chemistry?

865
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,039
Speaker 2: Okay, that might be serious because that implies like medical degrees,

866
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:05,679
pharmaceuticals stuff.

867
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: Sure, I mean that's that. If it were like.

868
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: Egglish, I got, who cares? Nobody could write on Facebook anyway.

869
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:13,559
But if if you're talking about like you know, or

870
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:16,840
even education, yeah you know what, they have other classes

871
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,559
that can make it up, you talk, you screw around,

872
00:44:18,679 --> 00:44:20,960
like pharmaceuticals or a medical we got.

873
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah we have a problem, all right, but back to this,

874
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,199
just take it on on surface and it could have

875
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,840
been a challenging chemistry class.

876
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,199
Speaker 2: I have no idea or can of chemistry. What organ chemistry? Yeah?

877
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well could have been I don't know.

878
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,480
They don't tell you that. They don't tell you the

879
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:42,119
dollar amount. Really, really, Brett, we need more reporters like you, yes, please,

880
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:43,840
because I want to know the dollar amount I want

881
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,400
to know, like you have to really really hoping that

882
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:49,159
this guy got fired over a fifty dollars bride. That's

883
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:51,519
what I'm really open. But the fact that he would

884
00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:53,599
take a fifty dollars bride be dumb enough to like

885
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,800
gas and in Canton, Ohio, see like a king on

886
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,840
fifty dollars. New York or New York excuse me, thank you,

887
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:06,159
it's right. But in New York you just yes, yes, uh,

888
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,320
but we can go Okay, you got a corrupt professor,

889
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,639
You've got the expense of paying students and all that stuff.

890
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:17,440
But is it have Are we in a world now

891
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,920
where everything's got a shortcut? And I'll take it to

892
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:28,639
video games you can get like the key or kids

893
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:32,159
spend hours watching people play video games on Twitch, yes,

894
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,760
these other places. Right, So if that's the case, are

895
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,679
we looking for a shortcut in some way? And they do?

896
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,960
They have like I forget what it's called in the

897
00:45:41,039 --> 00:45:45,280
video game world, but they have like an answer key

898
00:45:45,639 --> 00:45:47,559
so you can get you can figure it out and

899
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,559
you know, get to the next level faster. Are we

900
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,440
so trained to be a shortcut?

901
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? When I was a kid, Nintendo Power was a magazine.

902
00:45:55,519 --> 00:45:57,920
It was a monthly magazine that you get for tips

903
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:00,519
on how to beat video games. But then they would

904
00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:02,559
come out with these strategy guys, and the Strategy Guy

905
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:04,920
was basically the entire game in book form.

906
00:46:05,039 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, showing you how to cheat your way to win. Right,

907
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,079
and you thought you actually see codes and stuff. Yeah,

908
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:11,639
but you didn't win anything. It's cheat codes and that

909
00:46:11,639 --> 00:46:12,239
that just said that.

910
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:14,679
Speaker 2: You you were able to tell your friends I'd beat

911
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:15,960
Mario Brothers too.

912
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:18,679
Speaker 1: Right, great, And that's that's the thing that I wonder

913
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000
is like, Okay, so we've got cheat codes and all

914
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:23,679
this stuff. Do you get to a point and you

915
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,880
got to figure eighteen nineteen year old kids? Yeah, I

916
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,360
don't know, or twenty twenty one whatever, young people. This

917
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,880
is what like, this is what happened.

918
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,599
Speaker 2: I hate saying this, but like this is what happens

919
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:38,679
like around the world, like third world countries and second

920
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,880
world countries where they just like pay for their degrees everything.

921
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,079
Speaker 1: Hey look, I'm a doctor. I'm serious. I'm serious.

922
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: That's why nobody took like Brian McNamee or any of these,

923
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,239
like or Guerrero, right, yeah, Alex Guerrero, Tom Brady's guy.

924
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,679
Speaker 1: Nobody took these guys.

925
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,159
Speaker 2: Seriously because their degrees were from schools that later on

926
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,760
never existed. Right, Well, they went out of business. Anthony

927
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,920
Gallia like, was Tiger Woods is doctor? Where do you

928
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,400
go to school? The school doesn't exist anymore.

929
00:47:04,519 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: They paid for their degrees.

930
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: Like, did you watch Tiger King during the pandemic? I

931
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,320
don't think we've never had a Tiger King discussion on this.

932
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,400
There was a guy named Doc Antell. He had seven wives.

933
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,480
I think one was legal, he had six other wise

934
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,199
he had this huge like Tiger refuge. He goes, I

935
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,400
am a medical doctor. Was like, no, his degree is fake.

936
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,360
It's total bs. He bought it online. It's not real.

937
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,280
He's not a real doctor. And I mean, yeah, I.

938
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,159
Speaker 1: Think we do cheat.

939
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,039
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we're gonna get to another generation where, if this continues,

940
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,920
we're gonna be taking medical advice from quacks all the time.

941
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,440
If they don't crack down this crap, I'd rather doing it.

942
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: I take it on this podcast from an absolute quick.

943
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:46,119
Speaker 2: Listen Shammy, the medical advice I had dispense. Heares not

944
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,880
medical advice. For real medical advice, call your own doctor.

945
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 1: I would love to see. I'm dying to know. I

946
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,760
love to talk to the professor, like, how much money

947
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,199
did you get?

948
00:47:56,199 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: How about you Brett David's brides, how much did you

949
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,400
get off the right right?

950
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,679
Speaker 1: Because you lost your gig. It could be worse if

951
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:08,880
you were looking to get the fuck out of campon anyway.

952
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: He could have asked for sexual favors and received sexual favors.

953
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:13,639
I'm almost relieved that he asked for money at this point. Yeah,

954
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:15,119
because everything has become this well.

955
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:17,599
Speaker 1: I wonder if someone offered it and he went all right,

956
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,440
you know what I mean, Okay, you're thinking it's not

957
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,599
gonna happen, and the next thing, you know, and maybe

958
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:28,440
it was a one time thing. But he supposedly took bribes. Uh,

959
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:33,440
spring summer and fall semester. People were like, hey, man,

960
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,440
you pay this guy.

961
00:48:35,639 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like gig fifty bucks of the

962
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,199
cable guy back in the in the nineties and give

963
00:48:39,199 --> 00:48:41,480
you all the dirty channels. Not that I would know that.

964
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:42,599
Oh I heard about that.

965
00:48:42,639 --> 00:48:43,679
Speaker 1: I Oh really heard about that.

966
00:48:44,519 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

967
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:46,639
Speaker 1: You must have been tempted as a kid.

968
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: Oh of course I was tempted. Yeah, temptations a thing,

969
00:48:49,519 --> 00:48:52,360
and it means me I did ever watch the digital

970
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,559
The digital boo boo.

971
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,639
Speaker 1: I think, wait, there's yeah.

972
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,039
Speaker 2: I get spice Chedtle. That was like the big thing

973
00:48:59,039 --> 00:49:01,360
in school. Hey, my dad's it's police channel. Is black Bucks?

974
00:49:01,519 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: Really?

975
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:06,159
Speaker 2: Well, not my dad, no, people say, oh yeah. So

976
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:10,119
so here's a funny story. So my church bought a

977
00:49:10,159 --> 00:49:12,840
house from a guy to be a parsonage. So they

978
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,639
go in and clean it up, right, and it looks

979
00:49:14,639 --> 00:49:18,679
pretty spotless. So we hire a pastor. He moves in

980
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,159
and he had they had to do some work in

981
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:23,719
the basement with the ceiling tiles. They're kind of like this, right,

982
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,239
see how they're movable, And he goes to move one

983
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,440
of all of a sudden, this cable box like falls

984
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,239
out of the sky, out of the ceiling and he's like,

985
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:35,000
what's this. He goes there's like five or six black boxes.

986
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,599
Whoever owned the house before them was like getting like

987
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,360
illegal cable through these black boxes, and then every time

988
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,599
they got caught or was on the verge get caught,

989
00:49:43,639 --> 00:49:45,719
they just switched the box out and they had they

990
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,559
found like six black boxes in the I mean, we

991
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:50,679
knew it was in the last ten years at that point,

992
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:52,559
because like in the eighties, he's got that stuff.

993
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he put he hit him in the ceiling.

994
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:56,039
Speaker 2: Whoever sold the house?

995
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, he just wanted to get out one of

996
00:49:58,679 --> 00:50:00,920
those commercials like we people who steal.

997
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: Yes, if you know someone else the prices for everyone.

998
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't, No, it didn't know. You're you know,

999
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,599
did that shitty negotiations family? Exactly?

1000
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:11,199
Speaker 2: Golf course.

1001
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: You know what's nice though, you can still get over

1002
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,119
the air channels for free and you can watch you

1003
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:18,360
can watch the Masters.

1004
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: That's this week and see starting today.

1005
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: Starting today, that's right. And there are words I didn't

1006
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,800
realize that you're not allowed to say.

1007
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:29,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah at the Masters. You can't say garbage. Well,

1008
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:31,079
you have to say debris.

1009
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: I will admit to a weakness that I had today,

1010
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,440
a very brief weakness. I had an appointment at four o'clock. Uh.

1011
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:44,079
Where we live, there is a major expressway that is

1012
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,760
down to one lane right after where you and I

1013
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,000
went to college. If you don't get off there, you're

1014
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:53,960
stuck for nearly half hour forty minutes depending. So I

1015
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:56,320
got off and I went through the village of Pittsford,

1016
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,519
and I thought, what do you think happens when I

1017
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:01,280
go through the village of Pittsford stops. Yes, because I

1018
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,599
haven't been there in a very, very very long time.

1019
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,599
And I walk in.

1020
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard there was like a poster of you

1021
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:09,360
on the side of this thing. Oh have a milk cart.

1022
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: I saw the owner, Dave Clifford, briefly. He goes, are

1023
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,559
you coming to going? I go actually, I'm leaving. I

1024
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:17,760
sat down and the bartender I know him, Ricky, and

1025
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,880
I said, hey, Ricky, I got ten minutes, and I said,

1026
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,400
give me a half again. He goes, what the fuck

1027
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,880
is wrong with you? And give me a whole guinness.

1028
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:27,719
So I had a guinness and I watched some of

1029
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,519
the soccer. But I like going there to watch the

1030
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:32,559
Masters and stuff, and.

1031
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: If there's someoney place in town to watch the Masters.

1032
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,079
Speaker 1: In that place, some guy sitting next to me is

1033
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:43,480
telling Ricky that either someone he knows or some coach

1034
00:51:44,039 --> 00:51:47,840
got kicked I don't know if he got kicked out,

1035
00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:51,960
but his student is playing in the Masters. Maybe it's

1036
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,280
an amateur. I'm not sure they do let amateurs play.

1037
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,559
There are certain parts of Augusta that you are not

1038
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:04,960
allowed to wear shorts, and that's on the field of

1039
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,320
play or the course. Yeah, you can if you are

1040
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,960
a patron. They don't call them fans, your patrons. They

1041
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,480
don't have fanatics at Augusta. They patrons. So if you're

1042
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,119
a patron, you can wear shorts. But I heard that

1043
00:52:19,199 --> 00:52:21,639
today that this guy, I don't know if he got

1044
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,679
kicked out or just said you can't be here, you

1045
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:27,039
can't be in this area. That that is true, because

1046
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:29,760
somebody goes, how did he get in then, and they said, well,

1047
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,679
you can wear them. You can wear shorts as a patron,

1048
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,519
but not in the galley. There is no such thing

1049
00:52:37,519 --> 00:52:40,079
as the rough. What do they call it, I don't

1050
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,960
know what they call it, the second grass, the second grass.

1051
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,039
So you know, it's funny.

1052
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 2: Why because I kind of appreciate it in a way.

1053
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:52,559
So they say, like Augusta, the town itself is a dump,

1054
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:53,440
is a dump.

1055
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:56,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, my cousin owns a couple of restaurants. Theres thanks

1056
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:59,400
for sitting there. Well, there are parts of it that

1057
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,480
are very nice, but yes, overall, yeah.

1058
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: Overall yeah. But the actual course, they say, it's like

1059
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:06,840
a time warp. It's like going back to the fifties

1060
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,480
in every sense you can imagine.

1061
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: Stop it.

1062
00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:12,519
Speaker 2: So when you go to pay for your food. You

1063
00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:15,599
can't use a credit card, paying cash, but the prices

1064
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:19,880
are like nineteen fifties prices. Everything's incredibly cheap there except

1065
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,960
for the attire, the gear and stuff that's those are

1066
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,840
all kill prices, okay, but everything else, like you can't

1067
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,239
have your phone. It's very quiet, it's very prim and proper.

1068
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:31,639
You got to, you know, get dressed for it. But

1069
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,400
it is like a time warp. Going to Augusta. My

1070
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,400
brother in law went there a couple of years ago.

1071
00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: What do they call that. They don't say sand trap.

1072
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:45,119
I don't know what they call it. Maybe obstacles, it.

1073
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,599
Speaker 2: Could be I don't know's there's usually a list of

1074
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:47,880
what you.

1075
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,519
Speaker 1: Can You'll never hear that phrase while you're watching the Masters.

1076
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:53,159
You will never hear them say sandtrap. The back nine

1077
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,039
is another one that they don't say. They may say

1078
00:53:57,039 --> 00:53:57,920
the second nine.

1079
00:53:58,159 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: Okay. The other one I'm really sure about is garbage

1080
00:54:02,039 --> 00:54:05,360
versus debris. We don't get garbage, like Jim Natz was such,

1081
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,559
just some garbage floating out into the green and Hoody Johnson,

1082
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,000
who was the president at the time, said, Jim, we

1083
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:16,199
don't have garbage in Augusta. We have debris.

1084
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,039
Speaker 1: H they don't have a driving rings either.

1085
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: They want to make they want to sound as upper crust.

1086
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,519
Speaker 1: As part practice area for their to practice your skills.

1087
00:54:28,079 --> 00:54:31,159
It's a country club or golf course. Are not used,

1088
00:54:31,559 --> 00:54:37,000
twosome is not used. Fourth round, final round, Yeah, it's

1089
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:41,480
the final augusta. Yeah. And I don't know how I

1090
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,199
feel better because I go your pretentious assholes. It's a

1091
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:48,480
game of golf, right, but there is something about rules

1092
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,960
and decorum and playing that way.

1093
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,159
Speaker 2: Every golf club, country club has their rules. There are

1094
00:54:53,199 --> 00:54:55,760
some golf clubs here in town that don't allow Italians.

1095
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: But I've been told that, Oh okay, you heard this.

1096
00:54:59,559 --> 00:55:01,519
I heard the where'd you hear it? Didn't you hear

1097
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:02,320
from from?

1098
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,639
Speaker 2: I'm not choking.

1099
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,039
Speaker 1: I don't who this is back, and like, son, you

1100
00:55:07,079 --> 00:55:09,719
tell me what club that is. I don't know referring

1101
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,239
to O kill because I don't.

1102
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's killed.

1103
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,039
Speaker 1: I know, dude, do we know Italians killed? Yes? I do?

1104
00:55:16,159 --> 00:55:17,400
You know? I just thought of three?

1105
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean, like, I don't I think that

1106
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,400
that's what he said. I don't know if it's true,

1107
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,119
making it up, But the my point is golf clubs

1108
00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:27,239
I probably wouldn't let that.

1109
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: The guy on there, I don't know.

1110
00:55:29,039 --> 00:55:34,559
Speaker 2: Well, Okay, Billy Crystal told the story once at the funeral. Okay,

1111
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:37,360
so at the groups ethnic groups.

1112
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:42,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not. I don't because I think Jews

1113
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,880
are discriminated. I think I would believe that Italian. What

1114
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,400
I'm saying is, I don't think Italians are necessarily discriminated

1115
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:51,599
against for being Italian.

1116
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this from this is what I was

1117
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,800
told by it fell.

1118
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1119
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Billy Crystal told the Haman Alias story. He

1120
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,880
said at his funeral that Muhamma Ali would go jogging

1121
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,119
through there, and he goes, you ever play that course?

1122
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:07,960
He goes, well, no, I'm Jewish. They don't allow Juses. Well,

1123
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,599
I'm not running there anymore. Yeah, and Muhammed Ali would

1124
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:13,039
never run through there again. But I'm just saying that

1125
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,440
the certain golf clubs and court by the way, if

1126
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,280
your if your golf club doesn't want me there, I'm

1127
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,320
okay with that. It's your club. You do whatever you want. Man,

1128
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,280
I don't think I find it.

1129
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,559
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm sure maybe somewhere, I don't

1130
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:28,360
know of any I'm not a fancy like that. I mean,

1131
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,400
I used to be, but not anymore. I don't know.

1132
00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:33,360
I don't know. I have no idea. I have no

1133
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,199
idea if that's the case.

1134
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 2: To me, like, if you don't want me there, all right, yes,

1135
00:56:36,599 --> 00:56:37,760
I'll tell everyone you don't want.

1136
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,639
Speaker 1: Me there, thank you for saving me? Yeah, I would.

1137
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,719
You know what the Irish used to be the dregs

1138
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,519
of society.

1139
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 2: I know my grandmother told me all about it.

1140
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: Yes, So I wonder if she said she was she.

1141
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: Was black Irish? She said, I go, what does that mean, Grandma?

1142
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,159
She goes, she is what she said. She says, you

1143
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:57,559
were black on the inside. In other words, you were

1144
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:58,480
like a black.

1145
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 1: Person you were. Yeah, I'm just telling you what Krahma said.

1146
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: And I learned that that's not the actual with the

1147
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,840
actual term means that was what she thought it meant.

1148
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: Who was one hundred percent Irish? You know?

1149
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: But she says she was like like she remembers seeing

1150
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,440
Irish need not apply signs.

1151
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: Yes, that in the twenties and thirties, Yeah, that stuff

1152
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:21,039
is true. Yeah, because there were a bunch of hard

1153
00:57:21,039 --> 00:57:21,880
working drinkers.

1154
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: Hey, look, man, what'd you want the Irish working for you?

1155
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,719
Because you know, that money is going to go right

1156
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:30,159
back in your pocket. That would be the people I

1157
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:33,320
want to hire. Like my great grandfather, my grandmother's father.

1158
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,440
Every Friday he get paid, he'd go to the bar.

1159
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:39,679
He'd come home and the money was gone. Jannap had

1160
00:57:39,719 --> 00:57:40,679
being raised by her aunt.

1161
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,079
Speaker 1: That's not good. Yeah, we will take a moment. Uh.

1162
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:49,159
I saw this article today and we'll go through it

1163
00:57:49,159 --> 00:57:52,599
a little bit. But in a world where women's sexuality

1164
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:56,880
is still too often taboo. One reporter took a bold

1165
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leap and I would say, Brett David's is do you

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live this to Berkeley? This is at Berkeley, Casey Berkeley

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with his shirt off.

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Speaker 2: We haven't talked to Berkeley, have we?

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Speaker 6: Dude, when they said these guys would never get back

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together and they showed up when here on the Grammys.

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Speaker 1: For the show. Yeah, but they really didn't get back together.

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Wait for that, I guess it's back together.

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Speaker 2: It's true, and nobody thought they'd never take the stage together.

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Speaker 1: There's a specific line of this song on.

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Speaker 7: It the dinner of our Rice Christmas, the distance.

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Speaker 1: She left handed sting, Wait, go on, here we go

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at the bottom of It's got a space. There's a

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line in this song I wanted to get to like

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I can't remember where it was.

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Speaker 8: Like that was the yes, that is the line.

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Speaker 1: I have felt like life has just been humiliating, kicking

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the crotch lately. I just I don't know what's happening both.

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I'm just honest to God, I go, what the flip

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in that flat that flow that day?

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Speaker 2: But imagine what it feels like for the rest of

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the police. I, I don't know, humiliating, kick in the crotch.

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Speaker 1: I have brought this up a few times. I don't

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know maybe maybe secretly I want to do something like this,

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but uh, I will ask. For Dan's birthday that was

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last week, we gave Dan uh almond m and ms

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because I was looking for the healthy veats with the

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bad fat. And Dan, I just opened up the freezer

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to get out of glass because yes, I'm having a Guinness,

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joined me and he said, uh. I said, you want

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your m and ms and he said yeah, and then

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I could hear him crunching away. But the almonds sometimes

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a little because I eat a lot of raw almend

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to and almonds specifically. I don't know what kind I

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eat regular I just eat raw. I don't know where

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they're from. No no salt, no anything. But Danny was

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crunching away and he goes, I think he'll be done

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with this bag. And I wanted to say to you

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in that moment, you know, there's probably some heavy metals in.

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Speaker 2: There, plastic.

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Speaker 1: There's some plastics and heavy metals inside that you better

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get those out of.

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Speaker 2: Your So I started adding ton Co salts and Brocos

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sprouts to my diet.

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Speaker 1: If did you you did the motherfucker I knew it.

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Speaker 2: I was watching I was watching doctor Randa Patrick's Uh.

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Speaker 1: Doc Geronda Patrick's who even knows who this is? Where

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01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,440
did on YouTube? Where did her degree come from? Oh,

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she's a she's a biochemist.

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Speaker 2: Okay from where I don't know, and use YouTube university,

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but yeah, she's one of like she and Peter Atilla

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and Andrew Huberman and others have become these like health experts.

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And her big thing is, you know, is broncos sprouts

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and Omega threes or broncos broco sprouts like those you

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go to Wegmans, those little spouts you don't eat the broccoli.

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These are the sprouts that become broccoli. It's like it's

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almost like stem cells of broccoli. So you get it

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just a few of them, and it gets a lot

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of the broccoli and the sulfuric nutrients that your body

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graves and needs. And then the omega threes with the

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EPA and the d h A that actually helps you

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lengthen your life and your health span. Tablespoon of that

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tables every morning, I took a tablespoon of Carlson fish oil.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: No, they had eleven cent to it. Taste pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Holy shit, just drink its. Leave me alone, all right? Okay,

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if Beth said to.

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Speaker 2: You, Yes, oh that's the answer. Yes, Beth, whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: If Beth said, Dan, I want to I think we

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should go on this sexual retreat, you would go, oh, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: If it's just the two of us, I'm not playing

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patty Cake nobody else.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I have thought over the years.

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And then she and what's that?

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Speaker 2: Neither she?

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Speaker 1: Neither is she? Neither she? I'm not playing paddy Cake

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with anybody else.

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Speaker 2: Neither is she? If I don't know where you're going

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with that, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going anywhere. Okay, A God, Jesus Christ. Sorry

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so possessive? Well, yeah, my wife, I'm obsessive of my wife.

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Of the sugar. The yes, I could tell sugar it's

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01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:52,800
way up already.

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Speaker 2: The plastics are going to my brain.

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Speaker 1: The yeah. I I thought we're so prudish in this

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country and we don't talk about sexual pleasure and stuff

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to the point where it's shamed, it's looked or I

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think there's a lot of shame.

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Speaker 2: Associated with it with expuritans.

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Speaker 1: Would that be there to say?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I just wonder like if you went to a sex therapist,

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if you went and you had discussions with someone, or

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you even went to a sexual surrogate, or you went

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to one of these retreat type things. Would it make

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your life better? I don't know. I think that true

1291
01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:37,199
intimacy comes from real communication, right, that would be what

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I think true intimacy comes from. You can be intimate,

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physically intimate with somebody and have it mean nothing. But

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then you can have real intimacy where you're communicating and

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you know what that person likes and they know what

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you like, and they do this, and there's special things

1297
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and whatever. I just think that that's different. And apparently

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there's one that's just for women, I think. And this

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woman it was a three day women only orgasm retreat.

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They learned how they did like rope, bondage and stuff.

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01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,119
This chick said, my name is so and so, and

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01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:17,400
I'm now into ropes. I'm looking for a man who

1303
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:21,239
can die. That's what I'm saying. How much do you

1304
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,480
think this is the game? A little? This three day

1305
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:29,480
woman only orgasm retreat in a California desert went for.

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01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 2: Ninety nine dollars three thousand.

1307
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:38,039
Speaker 1: Pretty good. Pretty good? Let me see here so actual

1308
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:40,400
retail right, Well, I'm going to tell you everything you got.

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01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:45,000
It's run by Pamela Madson and her team of sex educators,

1310
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also known as perverts, blown sex educators, blown anatomy, demos,

1311
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:58,239
and sensual rituals, all designed to help women reclaim pleasure, confidence,

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and connection with their bodies with hands on practitioners like

1313
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:06,000
court Vox the only man allowed hand on practitioner. Huh

1314
01:08:06,119 --> 01:08:09,280
huh okay, seven hundred and fifty dollars bought an intro

1315
01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:16,439
experience to what some pay fifteen thousand dollars for, but

1316
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:21,520
seven fifty All right? If your wife said to you, Dan,

1317
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,039
I'm going to go to this it's women only orgasm retreat,

1318
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:27,199
and I'm going to spend seven hundred and fifty dollars

1319
01:08:27,239 --> 01:08:29,319
of our money. Well, probably more than that because I

1320
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need to fly to get there.

1321
01:08:31,239 --> 01:08:35,039
Speaker 2: What do you say, Well, there better be a return

1322
01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:41,119
on that investment. NOI and ROI yeah yeah, if it's

1323
01:08:41,119 --> 01:08:42,560
an investment, I want to return.

1324
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:47,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. So wait, how much how much is of you

1325
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,439
and your time and her time is worth seven hundred

1326
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,840
and fifty dollars, She could charge you that for one night?

1327
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,600
Do you want to return on my investment? Yeah?

1328
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whatever techniques you learn, you need to bring her

1329
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:05,000
immediately home. Uh yeah, some retreats costing fifteen thousand dollars.

1330
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,520
And according to this woman, her name is Jenna, and

1331
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,479
Jana did this, she's a reporter. It wasn't just sex ed,

1332
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:17,880
it was actually sexual awakening, she said, and is reclaiming

1333
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,279
sexuality becoming a privilege of the wealthy because it's so expensive.

1334
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,760
What does it mean when self discovery comes with a

1335
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,399
price tag most can't afford? And that is sort of

1336
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:33,000
the thing. But that's where the world's headed. Yeah, yeah,

1337
01:09:33,039 --> 01:09:35,039
because the whole marketing thing is if it's expensive, it's

1338
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:36,880
gotta be great, and if it's not expensive, it can't

1339
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,520
be worth it. Well, that's what they've trained us to believe.

1340
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Speaker 1: That is a that isn't just a that's a real thing. Yes,

1341
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,760
that's a real thing, and in certain circles it's a

1342
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,720
real thing. Especially you know.

1343
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,159
Speaker 2: I could like Tony Robbins right, is a huge you know,

1344
01:09:52,039 --> 01:09:55,359
I mean, the guy's the guy's self made man, hundreds

1345
01:09:55,359 --> 01:09:58,000
of millions of dollars being a self help he just

1346
01:09:58,039 --> 01:10:00,279
like being called a guru, but a self help type

1347
01:10:00,279 --> 01:10:03,600
of coach. And he's gotten into finance, he's gotten into health,

1348
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,720
he's gotten into all kinds of things. George Carlin always

1349
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,960
had a joke about Tony Robbins. He said, if you

1350
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:13,039
spend the money to go to a Tony Robbins seminar,

1351
01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:16,960
you don't need to go to a Tony Robins seminar.

1352
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: Like, if you're motivated to go, you don't need to go.

1353
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: Just put that motomation towards whatever it is you're chasing

1354
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,760
out there, right And I think when it comes to

1355
01:10:25,079 --> 01:10:27,520
sexual stuff, if you the best things and supposedly in

1356
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:29,960
life are free, you'll figure it out if you want.

1357
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: You don't need to go to.

1358
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 2: Some retreat to learn this stuff. But here's this other

1359
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,399
thing that they have now that they didn't have before. YouTube.

1360
01:10:38,119 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: Everything you want to learn, yes, can be found. I

1361
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,359
don't think sexual stuff can.

1362
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they can give you ideas though they hint

1363
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,840
act it out, but they can kind of like talk

1364
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:49,399
you through it.

1365
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not that I would know. Fifteen thousand dollars.

1366
01:10:54,319 --> 01:10:56,319
Speaker 2: Dude, that's like one semester at Fisher.

1367
01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:59,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, for three days. Yeah, but your clytorist

1368
01:10:59,079 --> 01:11:02,319
gets more intention than LinkedIn that you're actually happy about

1369
01:11:02,359 --> 01:11:07,640
that for once? Rightfully, So my LinkedIn's getting someone. Uh yeah,

1370
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,319
fifteen thousand dollars for I think most women would say

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all I need is ten minutes a piece and quiet

1372
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,760
without someone screaming mom, and I would be set free.

1373
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:23,199
But I'm not sure. Yeah, the uh somebody.

1374
01:11:23,319 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 2: There are some women who can't orgasm.

1375
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,119
Speaker 1: Well, there are some women who's men too. Seriously, Yeah,

1376
01:11:29,319 --> 01:11:31,479
there's men that. Yeah. Didn't we talk to somebody about

1377
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,359
this last we did? Yes? Yes, go on. When you

1378
01:11:33,359 --> 01:11:36,800
say that, have you is that the excuse of women

1379
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:41,560
have used with you? Is that? Is that? Why is that?

1380
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,399
Speaker 2: My Christianity will who look at that? I think there's

1381
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,600
I think there are some women who just can't. How

1382
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,039
do you know, because they've said so, They've told me.

1383
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: Really, yes, that's what they're saying to you, Then that's

1384
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:54,439
what they're saying.

1385
01:11:55,319 --> 01:11:56,199
Speaker 2: Uh huh years ago?

1386
01:11:57,039 --> 01:11:59,199
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I know. Let their fingers do the one

1387
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:08,119
the retreat filled. Some people say it filled gaps between

1388
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:13,000
sex ad that we or gaps left by traditional sex AD. Well.

1389
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,359
Speaker 2: Sex education is supposed to be education. Yes, it's still

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taught in schools. It has to be done with a

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certain element of class and sophistication. It can't just be

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like all right, so now we're use a double sided.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know somebody who's wrote in like, why are

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,439
women learning about their bodies in their thirties, forties, fifties

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or later. Well, the thing is because everything was shunned,

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and I think you get to a certain point in

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life and go, well, not of anybody's business.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, too, is like when you're in your twenties,

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you're usually with people in their twenties and they don't

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know what they're doing.

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01:12:41,039 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: Those what they're doing. That's what I'm saying is to

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get older and freer. Maybe going to one of those

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01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,560
things could be Some people say that it was a

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01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:54,239
very healing for them through erotic practices, which is odd, right,

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01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:59,000
because if you had trauma, neglect, shame, disconnection, and it

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01:12:59,039 --> 01:13:02,079
does raise the question, could sensuality and erotic play be

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01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:06,479
legitimate therapeutic tools and the thing would be better? Not

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01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,079
I don't want to find out. It would be creepy

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01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,720
that that's how guys get arrested. That's how it's usually

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01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:19,359
the male. Hey, you know what you need is an whatever, right,

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,079
let me help you out. I mean, do you like that.

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01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,199
I'd like the fact that we separate sex and healing. Yeah,

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01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,840
I would think, yes, that's that's all. Would you'd be okay?

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If Beth wanted to go to one, I don't know.

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,319
I think it might be interesting if I went with her.

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But it's a women's only I.

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01:13:40,239 --> 01:13:42,640
Speaker 2: Don't see that's that just invites trouble. You're opening the

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door for trouble.

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01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:46,399
Speaker 1: What do you mean your vo Yeah? That's wait, how

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01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,239
are we doing that? How?

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01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: I just I just you know, women get I don't.

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:52,079
Speaker 1: Know how women.

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01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 2: So I we'll think about how men get when they're

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,199
together on there all going on trips stuff.

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01:13:58,359 --> 01:14:02,319
Speaker 1: We just get drunk. What Oh, I see what you're saying.

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He's being like hooking up with other people.

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01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen a whole lot of that, especially marry guys.

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I haven't seen that.

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01:14:08,359 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 2: I've never seen it with marry guys.

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01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: But I know that guys, Oh, guys do single women

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01:14:13,319 --> 01:14:14,239
single women.

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01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, like you know, you gotta

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01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,079
experience yourself again. You gotta go back to the days

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01:14:19,319 --> 01:14:22,039
they kind of unlock. Though, not that I'll trust my wife.

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01:14:22,039 --> 01:14:23,560
I'm just saying, why invite that temptation?

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01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:27,560
Speaker 1: God? But if she came back like more renaissances That's

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01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,600
what I'm saying. When if she came back and they

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01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,960
did a whole rope thing, she got a whole rope thing.

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01:14:33,199 --> 01:14:37,479
She ties me up that she goes no count no,

1441
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,560
she suspends herself from above the bed or something, and

1442
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,359
you get to I remember being at somebody's house. Was

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01:14:43,399 --> 01:14:46,279
she pink? Yes? I remember being It.

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01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: Didn't mean I met the artist.

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01:14:51,119 --> 01:14:54,119
Speaker 1: I know. I know you meant yeah, you'll be in

1446
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:59,640
the pink. I remember. I have to be careful because

1447
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,760
I don't want to out anybody's name, but I remember

1448
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:07,199
being at somebody's house and getting pretty blasted and sitting

1449
01:15:07,279 --> 01:15:09,079
there at the end of the night, it's just me

1450
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,640
and the couple, and the wife starts talking about the

1451
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,399
sex swing they have. I want to see how much

1452
01:15:17,399 --> 01:15:23,600
she loves it. But I I kind of go, this

1453
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,720
is probably by time to exit. And there was no offer.

1454
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:30,239
Nothing was being offered, like a swinger thing. Nothing she

1455
01:15:30,359 --> 01:15:33,039
just mentioned. I could tell. The husband was like really mortified.

1456
01:15:33,039 --> 01:15:34,600
I was like, all right, let me get my humber

1457
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:35,279
and can get out.

1458
01:15:35,359 --> 01:15:36,119
Speaker 2: I do this trick.

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01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,039
Speaker 1: But I thought, good for you. You know, there's many people

1460
01:15:43,079 --> 01:15:46,560
who aren't there. I don't think my parents didn't have swings,

1461
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,079
they had a waterbed.

1462
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 2: Like like like the term like for years, missionary describes

1463
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,880
what we thought of sex. In other words, it was

1464
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,920
called a missionary position because what they saw a doggie style.

1465
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,399
The doggy star I don't think existed until the nineties. God,

1466
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,279
yes it did. Okay, I did had to do. You

1467
01:16:05,399 --> 01:16:07,880
think you got invented. I was snoop doggy dog.

1468
01:16:08,199 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that physician has been around for this has been around,

1469
01:16:13,119 --> 01:16:16,720
But they don't know terminology doggy style. I thought, I

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,119
don't know. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was a nineties kid. Oh that makes sense, okay.

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01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,239
But the reason like the missionary term came to be

1473
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,560
was because missionaries were.

1474
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: Considered pred and proper and puritan.

1475
01:16:29,359 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: And no, this is the only way. Even the Bible

1476
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:33,520
doesn't say that's the only way to do that.

1477
01:16:34,319 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: No, the Bible doesn't go into these specifics. Oh, Jesus said,

1478
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,840
jes didn't say anything. What he did?

1479
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,640
Speaker 2: He said, a man and a woman become one. He

1480
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,199
didn't say anything about sex. She didn't talk about sex.

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01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 1: He said, Now did he really just asking? Didn't he?

1482
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,000
He didn't say that what it's coming up on Easter?

1483
01:16:53,119 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: I thought he did not no, not in that Oh

1484
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:06,239
okay nomenclature. I guess that's uh.

1485
01:17:05,039 --> 01:17:08,359
Speaker 1: It would be interesting. I kind of like the idea

1486
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:12,520
when you were married, would you have gone along with that? Uh,

1487
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:12,840
there you.

1488
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 2: Go, here's your answer.

1489
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,199
Speaker 1: Oh I would have let my wife go. Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1490
01:17:18,279 --> 01:17:21,000
What I have gone to would get weird for me.

1491
01:17:21,239 --> 01:17:24,479
I get weird with that kind of stuff again because

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01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,840
of society's societal norms and things. I think now, if

1493
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,800
I were to do it, I would have to be

1494
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:36,560
with somebody I'm really comfortable with. Uh. Yeah, I don't

1495
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,359
know that I would have when I was married, which

1496
01:17:38,359 --> 01:17:41,039
I guess is a shame. I don't know. I don't

1497
01:17:41,079 --> 01:17:41,760
think it's a shame.

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,159
Speaker 2: I think it's just it just gets a state of things.

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01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets weird like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of psychological dynamics in that.

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01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,399
Speaker 1: I yeah, I just to get off. I just think that.

1502
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,399
I think it's very healthy for people to figure out

1503
01:17:56,399 --> 01:17:58,800
what works for them and be open and talking. That's all.

1504
01:17:59,119 --> 01:18:01,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. And if you like in a

1505
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:03,960
couple in a relationship, yes, absolutely right.

1506
01:18:04,199 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: And if you want to put somebody into a lasso

1507
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:14,239
like Shira, like they're a piece of cattle going a

1508
01:18:14,279 --> 01:18:14,800
hog time.

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01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:19,600
Speaker 2: People are under five seconds. People are in the weird stuff. Dude,

1510
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,960
what do you mean? What do you know unusual stuff?

1511
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: No, come on, we do. We've interviewed people on this

1512
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,159
podcast those things, well, the ropes and stuff.

1513
01:18:27,319 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 2: It can be kind of fun, I guess.

1514
01:18:29,039 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Blind folds huh?

1515
01:18:32,119 --> 01:18:33,039
Speaker 2: Do we a safe word?

1516
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: Noodless? That noodles? What is the weird? There's no blind folds?

1517
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:46,319
Nos with? What with in your life? No blind folds? Lingerie,

1518
01:18:46,399 --> 01:18:49,399
there's nothing. What are you talking about? All right, we

1519
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,319
gotta get out of here.

1520
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: Do we do four segments?

1521
01:18:52,079 --> 01:18:57,159
Speaker 1: No? No, we didn't. We didn't. I have to get

1522
01:18:57,239 --> 01:18:59,760
I gotta you. You know what I'm dealing with. Yeah,

1523
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:05,840
I know before the smoke alarms exactly. I got it.

1524
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,239
I just looked at the time. I got it. It's

1525
01:19:08,279 --> 01:19:10,880
a little stuff I gotta take care of. But we

1526
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,279
went along with the Brett segment. We did about our

1527
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:14,439
average time.

1528
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I mean I understand Mayor Evans' concerns, but

1529
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,319
there was no reason to do that to Brett.

1530
01:19:20,399 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: Who's mel Novak? I don't know.

1531
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,159
Speaker 2: And he's dead okay, he died.

1532
01:19:27,319 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just got a team. Is that kim Novak's

1533
01:19:30,039 --> 01:19:34,239
husband that said mel Novak, let's see mel Novak. Oh,

1534
01:19:34,279 --> 01:19:39,079
it looks familiar remembering mel Novak? Hollywood actor? Wasn't that

1535
01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:43,520
the planet Alp was from mel Novak? What he was? Uh?

1536
01:19:44,319 --> 01:19:47,119
That's known for his starring role in Bruce Lee's classic

1537
01:19:47,239 --> 01:19:50,000
Game of Death. I don't know, No, I don't remember that.

1538
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,560
I don't know that's the peace broke. Well, guess what

1539
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:56,479
The Game of Death walked took a while. Yeah, yeah,

1540
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:02,319
I wonder if it was kim Novak's dead gold outside

1541
01:20:02,399 --> 01:20:06,439
all right for Dan Barillo, Beth go on that retreat.

1542
01:20:07,239 --> 01:20:18,079
I'm Bill Moran. Tell yourself, we'll see tomorrow. Not even

1543
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:20,159
to know him we was up to. They wouldn't have

1544
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:20,920
let us see him.