WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.320 A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:07.240 demand on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:08.320 It's time for swamping. 5 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:08.880 Thank god. 6 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:12.400 I'm a politicians, I'm a cheat and a liar, and 7 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:15.039 when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipop. 8 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:18.320 Here we got the real problem is that our leaders 9 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:18.879 are done. 10 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:20.199 The other side never quits. 11 00:00:20.239 --> 00:00:24.519 So what I'm not going anywhere so that. 12 00:00:25.079 --> 00:00:27.839 You train the squat, I can imagine what can be 13 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:29.399 and be unburdened by what has been. 14 00:00:29.600 --> 00:00:32.840 You know, Americans have always been going a president, but 15 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:33.719 they're not stupid. 16 00:00:33.759 --> 00:00:36.640 A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth. 17 00:00:36.799 --> 00:00:39.359 Have the people voted for you with not swamp watch, 18 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:40.640 They're all counting on them. 19 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:45.280 The Governor hot Wheels thing has picked up a little steam. 20 00:00:46.280 --> 00:00:48.359 You're the first person who told me about this. 21 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:50.359 The first time I heard about it, and then it 22 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:53.920 kind of was a snowball down the Mountain Representative Jasmine 23 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:57.920 Crockett refusing to apologize for calling Governor Greg Abbott governor 24 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:02.719 hot Wheels. He refused to apologize multiple times in an 25 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:07.719 interview with Fox Business before growing frustrated and ending the conversation. 26 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:11.560 She put out a statement regarding her comment, but did 27 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:13.079 not include an apology. 28 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.280 Well, and to give you an idea of how broken 29 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.959 politicians are when it comes to just being human about something, 30 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:21.560 she could say something like I made a joke. I 31 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:23.640 feel bad about it. I shouldn't have made fun of him. 32 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.040 He's in a wheelchair, and I apologize. It's that simple 33 00:01:27.159 --> 00:01:30.799 move on never comes up again. She says, I do 34 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:35.040 have a statement. Why would I apologize when I put 35 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:35.920 out a statement. 36 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.879 Fox Business reporter Hillary Vaughn said, but you didn't apologize 37 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.359 for calling him governor hot wheels when he gets around 38 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.680 in a wheelchair. You don't understand how that's offensive to people. 39 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:48.879 And she says, I don't understand how many times you 40 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.799 need me to repeat this to you. And Vaughn went 41 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:54.959 on to say, right, but why don't you apologize? And 42 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:57.120 she says, I put on a statement. Anchor says they 43 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.760 didn't have an apology in it. Why don't you feel 44 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.040 bad making fun of someone in a wheelchair? 45 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.120 She said, well, I'm done. I'm done here. I'm done 46 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:04.640 with this demo. 47 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:06.959 I might have done this to Republicans for a long time, 48 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.599 and now that she steps up and says something offensive 49 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:15.039 or silly or hurtful, she can't apologize for it. I mean, listen, 50 00:02:15.120 --> 00:02:17.120 it was it was a silly comment she kind of made. 51 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:19.360 She made it in Jess. I don't think Greg Abbott 52 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:22.639 gives two tell you about what she says. 53 00:02:22.919 --> 00:02:24.719 I thought it was funny in the moment. I tell 54 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:27.719 it like it is. I know he's not uptight about it. 55 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:30.439 This is I didn't even know Greg Abbott was in 56 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.759 a wheelchair, but he was paralyzed. His legs were paralyzed 57 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:35.719 on a running a tree fell on him. Oh, it 58 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:37.479 says a running accident in eighty four. 59 00:02:37.639 --> 00:02:39.919 A tree fell on him. Why I don't go running. 60 00:02:41.000 --> 00:02:44.919 That's one of the big things that happened yesterday was 61 00:02:45.120 --> 00:02:48.840 NPR and PBS went before a House committee and they 62 00:02:48.840 --> 00:02:52.639 were talking. There was the House Committee on Government Efficiency. 63 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.599 This was hilarious. This was pretty crazy. 64 00:02:56.360 --> 00:03:00.159 Jim Jordan at one point was asking a representative from 65 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:04.479 NPR about bias in NPR. Now, if you've listened to 66 00:03:04.599 --> 00:03:07.039 NPR anytime in the last I don't know, forty years, 67 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.199 they have a political bent to them. An it's an 68 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:13.039 undeniable regardless of which side you're on. It's an undeniable 69 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:16.159 political bent. People who are Democrats who listen to it 70 00:03:16.439 --> 00:03:19.840 know that, right, and it's not you know, you can 71 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.280 have an audience for that, but you just you shouldn't 72 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.520 be government funded if you're going to be on one 73 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:25.599 side the entire time? 74 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:27.080 Is MPR biased? 75 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:31.400 Congressman, I have never seen any instance of never of 76 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.120 pro political bias determining editorial decisions. 77 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:39.360 Now in the DC area editorial positions at MPR, he said, 78 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:43.639 he found eighty seven registered Democrats, zero Republicans. 79 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:44.639 Is that accurate? 80 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.919 We do not track the numbers or the voter registration 81 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:51.240 eighty seven to zero, and you're not biased. I think 82 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:53.039 that is concerning if those numbers are accurate. 83 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:55.719 Eighty seven eighty seven regulation. 84 00:03:55.840 --> 00:03:58.840 She said, I do think that's concerning, right, But that 85 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.080 would be a shock to you. I have no idea 86 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:02.560 what she can do about it. I don't know about her. 87 00:04:02.599 --> 00:04:04.680 I don't know anything about her. Is she just a 88 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:08.439 journalist or is she an activist? What's her deal? Jeff Bezos. 89 00:04:08.639 --> 00:04:12.560 When The Washington Post got similar criticism, Jeff Bezos at 90 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:14.520 least said, Hey, we're going to do better to reach 91 00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:20.600 out to specific voices on the right that we haven't 92 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:22.439 heard from in the past, and we're going to give 93 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:24.959 them space in our newspaper to do so. That follows 94 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:27.759 on what the owner of the La Times had said, 95 00:04:27.759 --> 00:04:31.480 Patrick Songshong had said, we're going to introduce and include 96 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:36.959 more right leaning voices so that our newspaper doesn't just 97 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:40.759 become a left wing rag and then lose its voice, 98 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:46.160 lose it's a important place in our society's. 99 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.319 It was a she was on the hot seat. That's 100 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:53.240 a good part. Cars tariff's. 101 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.720 President Trump imposed a twenty five percent tariff on all 102 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.959 automobiles that are not built in the United State. 103 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:00.759 On the car. 104 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.959 Tariffs, how do you assure that a car coming into 105 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:06.759 the country is fully built? Could have an automaker in 106 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:08.839 Germany say leave the tires off a car. 107 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:13.279 We're going to have very strong policing, and it's pretty 108 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:17.240 easy to do. If parts are made in America and 109 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:19.560 a car isn't, those parts are not going to be 110 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:22.680 text or tariff, and we'll have very strong policing as 111 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:23.680 far as that's concerned. 112 00:05:23.800 --> 00:05:26.160 How are you sure Americans then that this will not 113 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:28.360 cause a long term increase in prices? 114 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.720 Well, look, I think We're going to have a market 115 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:32.920 the likes of which nobody's ever seen before or not 116 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:35.160 in this country. You know, we had the best market 117 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:39.439 ever in my first term. It was the strongest market ever, 118 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:42.399 the best economy ever. And I think you're going to 119 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:43.959 have I think this blows it away. 120 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.439 We talked about this earlier in the show. This is 121 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.800 one of those things where he's putting maximum pressure on 122 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:53.519 this industry, the foreign car makers, in an effort to 123 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:56.240 see what squeezes out the sides. He did it with Mexico, 124 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:57.959 he did it with Canada, he did it with Europe. 125 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:02.680 He's done it before, and the his point is to 126 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:04.839 see what kind of a deal he can he can 127 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:06.720 get from automakers. 128 00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:09.000 I'm interested to see how this works because it goes 129 00:06:09.079 --> 00:06:14.519 both ways. We have import automakers that have factories here 130 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:19.360 in the United States, right, Mercedes Benz in Alabama. How 131 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:21.360 does this impact them. 132 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.319 If the we'll see that's the thing is, and that's 133 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.160 what the question from the reporter was. So Mercedes Benz 134 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.560 can make cars here in Alabama, but they get a 135 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:32.839 bunch of their parts from overseas. Now are those individual 136 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:36.319 parts then tariff at a twenty five percent rate, and 137 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:38.879 then what do they do. Do you just have minuscule 138 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:41.439 pieces and bits of your car that are that are 139 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:42.800 subject to take and dried. 140 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:45.199 It's not clear, No, not clear at all. All Right. 141 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.600 Bill Gates has predicted the death of every job thanks 142 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:51.040 to AI, except for these three. 143 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:52.560 We'll tell you when we come back. 144 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:57.160 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 145 00:06:57.399 --> 00:06:58.279 AM six forty. 146 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:04.120 Bill Gates. Okay, we've talked about artificial intelligence. There have 147 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:09.079 been different stories, theologies, theories about what is going to 148 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:12.560 happen when artificial intelligence takes us over and turns us 149 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:14.800 into just meat bags for their private use. 150 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.439 And it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. 151 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:21.120 You know, you got to write that down on a 152 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:23.800 post it and leave it here for John meat bags 153 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:24.920 for their private use. 154 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:27.199 I think that he would get some mileage out of that. 155 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:31.000 Bill Gates went on the Tonight Show a couple of 156 00:07:31.040 --> 00:07:34.120 weeks ago and said that AI would replace humans for 157 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:40.560 most things. And we've seen some very frighteningly good, very 158 00:07:40.600 --> 00:07:44.319 close to human things that AI can do. If you've 159 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:47.360 used chat ept or groc or any one of these, 160 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:51.600 you know, large language models and ask questions. They are incredible. 161 00:07:51.639 --> 00:07:53.759 The technology that it is able to spit out on 162 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:56.639 the back end of that is just it's unbelievable. And 163 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:01.399 then you've got video that is created entirely in AI, 164 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:05.560 and you've got audio now that is created entirely in AI, 165 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.839 and you've got the combination thereof it seems like there 166 00:08:08.839 --> 00:08:11.639 aren't very many jobs that AI wouldn't be able to do, 167 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:18.759 except he says, there are three things that AI will 168 00:08:18.800 --> 00:08:24.000 never be able to do good as well as I 169 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:28.560 was gonna say, Americans as well as people. And the 170 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.399 first one, the first one is the one that is 171 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.919 the craziest to me. The first one is coding that 172 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.519 they and I know a lot of people that are 173 00:08:38.519 --> 00:08:44.279 in that business now use AI for their coding. He 174 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:47.919 had said that computers won't be able to innovate when 175 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:51.039 it comes to the code that is written to control 176 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.679 the computers. So there's one thing that's sort of us 177 00:08:53.720 --> 00:08:55.759 being able to keep our hand on the leash of 178 00:08:55.799 --> 00:09:01.559 the wild animal that is artificial intelligence. The second one experts. 179 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:02.879 This one. 180 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:04.720 I thought it would be one sort of the medical 181 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:07.320 field where there's so much going on that it would 182 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:11.159 take something like AI to wrap its head around, how 183 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:15.840 do we develop new emerging technologies in order to harness 184 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:18.799 the energy that exists, to not rely on fossil fuels 185 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:20.360 as much as we have in the past, because we 186 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:23.960 know there's a finite amount. How do you increase technology 187 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.159 to capture more energy from the sun or the wind, 188 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:30.360 or vibrations in the earth or whatever. But he says 189 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:33.080 that it's going to take that same human innovation. It 190 00:09:33.080 --> 00:09:36.399 seems like that's the kind of the The key is 191 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:40.639 the innovation the creativity that would exist in humanity that 192 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:42.000 does not exist in AI. 193 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:44.279 Okay, give me the third one and see if I'm 194 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:50.639 going to get at that biology. Nope, Biologists specifically those 195 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:55.960 that investigate the study of life, how it comes. 196 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:58.519 Able to do that well? 197 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:02.320 And his point, give them a of biologies science, you 198 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:05.399 get them a set give them somebody a set of information, 199 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:08.559 set of facts and data that you would think that 200 00:10:08.600 --> 00:10:10.480 they would come to the same types of conclusion. 201 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:11.240 But it's all stuff. 202 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:14.480 And I mean he again talks about that human innovation 203 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:17.559 and creativity, that's all stuff in the past, because AI 204 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:23.000 only knows what happened before and does not, according to him, 205 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:29.159 have the capacity to come up with creative ways to 206 00:10:29.240 --> 00:10:33.200 look for. I don't know what biologists do, but they biologize, right. 207 00:10:33.279 --> 00:10:35.799 Well, see, and that's what we've been talking about. Not 208 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.600 to make it about us, but the creativity doesn't seem 209 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:46.200 to be there in terms of Hollywood type entertainer type things. 210 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:49.360 You could write. And I think an example of that 211 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.080 would be when they come for our job, when they 212 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:55.440 have to come and sit down. The computer has to 213 00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:57.159 sit here for four hours and think of things to 214 00:10:57.200 --> 00:10:59.759 say for four hours. That's going to be different because 215 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:02.480 there's still somebody who's going to say to the computer. 216 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:08.679 Talk about artificial intelligence. Right, there's never a point, according 217 00:11:08.679 --> 00:11:11.720 to Bill Gates, where it's just autonomous and comes up 218 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:14.080 with its own stuff all by itself, at least not 219 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:17.480 in those fields. That doesn't make me feel very comfortable 220 00:11:17.480 --> 00:11:18.799 because he didn't include radio. 221 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:22.759 Well, we're a couple. We might not have a job tomorrow. 222 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:25.159 That is not like we have longevity. 223 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:27.960 That is very that is very, very true. 224 00:11:28.200 --> 00:11:32.840 You know, that's why we're selling your plasma on the side. 225 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:36.200 You know your Jeopardy question, Yes, we have time for that. 226 00:11:36.320 --> 00:11:37.639 Your plasma is jacked up. 227 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:42.320 What fifty two year old plasma do you? I don't know. 228 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:45.519 There's no market for that. 229 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.240 There might be. I bet I could sell your plasma 230 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:55.600 face facts for four hundred dollars. The Seminole were among 231 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:58.879 the many Native American tribes that used green paint on 232 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.440 the face to improve of this sense at night. 233 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:08.399 What is a vision? Yes? I know that green paint. Yes, 234 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.840 it helps with your night blindness, my night blindness. You're 235 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:16.200 the proverbial, your Mark Saltzman? Is that the right word? 236 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:17.519 Tech Talk? When we come back. 237 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.159 You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI 238 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:23.279 AM six forty. 239 00:12:23.519 --> 00:12:24.519 It's time for tech talk. 240 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:26.960 The machines are getting smarter. 241 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:30.639 This is tech Talk, brought to you by Skynet. 242 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:36.440 Mark Saltzman is our friend from the Great White North, the. 243 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:37.559 Nook of the North. 244 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:42.720 Sorry, I happen to be in your fair country right now. 245 00:12:42.960 --> 00:12:43.200 Are you? 246 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.039 Are you on the East Coast? 247 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:46.879 I am. 248 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:50.279 I'm leaving New Jersey. I was in New York for 249 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:53.399 an event with a company called High Sense, a big 250 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:55.840 TV company primarily I probably heard of them. 251 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:57.679 They do my television. 252 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.639 Yes, they they have a lot of bang for the buck, 253 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.919 you know, like and and big, like eighty five and 254 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:09.320 ten inch TVs. Wow, without breaking the bank. Pretty good stuff. 255 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:12.120 And my one of my twins, Jacob, who's turning twenty 256 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:14.320 three in July, he's never been to New York, so 257 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.080 I took him and so we're at in the lounge 258 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:20.919 at Newark and yeah, we had a really packed forty 259 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:23.960 eight hours. We did everything from a nixt game and 260 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:28.399 the MoMA Museum to Central Park in Times Square to 261 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:32.120 Trump Tower and the financial districts. We had a lot 262 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:32.320 of fun. 263 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:32.960 It was really great. 264 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:35.120 Did you do the smart hack where you stayed in 265 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:37.440 Hoboken and you had the view of Manhattan? 266 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:43.200 That's a good hack, But no, we did not. Was 267 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:44.960 taken care of by high since. 268 00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:45.519 Oh nice. 269 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:49.080 But yeah, yeah we did turn to Google and say 270 00:13:49.080 --> 00:13:50.679 we were going to do Empire State Building, but it 271 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.799 was really cloudy and rainy yesterday. So I didn't want 272 00:13:52.799 --> 00:13:56.600 to really spend the fifty bucks each to go if 273 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:58.440 the view was bad. And it's not that I'm cheap, 274 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:01.000 but I just you know, the bad than what's why 275 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:04.639 spend the money? So I googled best free view a 276 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.600 fresh best view of New York skyline for free, like 277 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.039 best balcony view, and it took me to a library 278 00:14:11.360 --> 00:14:13.120 that had the most awful view. It was like a 279 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.440 brick wall, if you like, I have to get in 280 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:19.039 there and like yelp that stuff, because that was not. 281 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:21.879 What a cool trick exactly, New York tourists. 282 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:27.399 You accidentally went to Sarcasm dot Google dot com, Yeah, yeah. 283 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:30.879 I must have yeah, or Snopes, you know the anyhow, Yeah, 284 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:32.840 it was, but it was a really great trip. So yeah, 285 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:35.240 so I was here seeing some new TVs. But you 286 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:37.840 know what's dominating a lot of the tech headlines, uh 287 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:41.120 are the is this twenty three and me bankruptcy? As 288 00:14:41.120 --> 00:14:42.919 you know, so I thought we might chat about it 289 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:47.639 to help KFI listeners and iHeart listeners manage their info 290 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:50.720 if they've uploaded their DNA to twenty three and meters 291 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.440 probably heard on on Sunday they announced that they're going bankrupt. 292 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.039 They're filing for Chapter eleven protection, and that they are 293 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:01.799 likely to sell all of their which includes your personal 294 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:06.480 DNA and FOE and health markers unless you delete the information. 295 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:12.600 So this is it's obviously an upsetting situation for many. 296 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.519 Both twenty three and Me and ancestry dot com are 297 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:18.799 very similar in the sense that it'll help you unlock 298 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:22.120 your family history and find potential relatives. But twenty three 299 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:24.759 and me goes above and beyond that by providing genetic 300 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:28.639 health reports and trait reports. So this is even more 301 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:30.759 concerning understandably for many. 302 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:31.480 Well. 303 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.840 I happen to have used twenty three and me to 304 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:41.360 find DNA relatives, and I noticed that the site itself 305 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:44.360 went down on Monday. I mean because our Attorney general 306 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:47.639 here in California had suggested people request that their information 307 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:51.360 be deleted, that their saliva sample be destroyed so that 308 00:15:51.399 --> 00:15:55.360 it doesn't get lost. What is the concern that, what 309 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:57.919 could somebody do with my genetic information? 310 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:01.679 Yeah? Yeah, First of all, you're right that so many 311 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.879 people went to the website to delete their information that 312 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.919 the servers got overloaded on Tuesday twenty three and Me said, 313 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:14.120 everything's fine, and it's a pretty simple process to download 314 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:17.440 your info and then delete it. So the issue, I 315 00:16:17.480 --> 00:16:20.759 think is just that you have no control when a 316 00:16:20.799 --> 00:16:23.279 company says we are going we are forced to sell 317 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:26.519 our assets that includes your personal information. We don't know 318 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:30.080 what's going to be done with it. Disgui's a limit. 319 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:33.159 It's your DNA, you know. I mean, once upon a time, 320 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:35.360 the biggest concern was that you know, there's going to 321 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:38.080 be a forensics investigation, and you're going to have to, 322 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:42.120 you know, inadvertently like tell like that, you know, give 323 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:45.759 information to the police that your cousin is a serial 324 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:48.440 murderer or something. You know, like all this stuff that 325 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:50.480 we gave away that we didn't really realize when we 326 00:16:50.519 --> 00:16:53.200 didn't read the t's and c's. But now it seems that, 327 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:55.480 you know, like we don't know who the buyer will 328 00:16:55.480 --> 00:16:58.440 be and what's being done with your personal data. I 329 00:16:58.519 --> 00:17:01.320 just think it's disconcerting and not know what's going to happen, 330 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:05.480 you know, with it. It's your personal DNA markers, right, 331 00:17:05.559 --> 00:17:08.440 I mean it can go either way, and without even 332 00:17:08.440 --> 00:17:11.440 getting too sci fi, it could be things like cloning, 333 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:14.640 and you know, you never know it's your sample. So 334 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:16.720 I don't know why anybody would want that out there. 335 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:19.079 But yeah, but I mean your point, I think people 336 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:21.799 have a hard time wrapping their head around what could. Yeah, 337 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:23.960 we don't know what the future holds in terms of 338 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:26.200 that kind of technology and what it would be used for. 339 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.880 And you're saying it's better to be safe than sorry 340 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:30.559 down the road. 341 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:34.319 Yeah, And I'm not trying to be like purposely vague. 342 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.240 It's we just don't know. It's one thing right now, 343 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:40.519 it's our you know, identity theft is very real, and 344 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:43.640 that's without any bio information like this is just from 345 00:17:44.039 --> 00:17:49.880 financial information that you're volunteering. Imagine having your genetic makeup 346 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:53.200 out there. You know, it might sound like science fiction, 347 00:17:53.319 --> 00:17:56.519 but I think it's just it's just smarter to download 348 00:17:56.519 --> 00:17:58.599 and delete the data and you don't have to download 349 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:00.839 it first, by the way, And so yeah, if you 350 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:03.799 just want to Google twenty three and meters delete data, 351 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.160 or just if you' you've got a good memory, just 352 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:09.359 go to and maybe that's part of your genetics. Bet 353 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:12.079 good memory is just go to the twenty three in 354 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:15.119 me website, go to settings, click on data and then 355 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:17.480 view and then you have an option to delete data, 356 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:20.119 and then you're going to be asked to double check. 357 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:23.640 It'll say permanently delete data, and you'll confirm your request, 358 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.119 and then the process is similar for that sample that 359 00:18:26.160 --> 00:18:28.640 you mentioned, your saliva sample, you also have to go 360 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:31.079 to settings and then preferences and then delete all that. 361 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:33.640 It's up to you if you don't care, if you're 362 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:35.920 like whatever, you know, let them do what they want 363 00:18:36.000 --> 00:18:38.000 with my then you don't have to panic then I'm 364 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:40.680 not suggesting you panic, but I believe that we should 365 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:45.680 be in control of our information. And yes, we opted 366 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:47.880 for these services like you did, Gary, And I used 367 00:18:47.920 --> 00:18:50.759 ancestry dot com and I've found relatives, so I didn't know. 368 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:52.319 You know, I think there's a lot of good to 369 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:55.240 these services. But when you hear of a company that 370 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:58.680 goes under that has fifteen million people in its database, 371 00:18:58.839 --> 00:18:59.759 that's a little scary. 372 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:02.480 Well, and I know that there's an option, isn't there 373 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:07.079 to download the information so that I can keep it myself. 374 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:10.680 And then I guess it's similar to what I said was, 375 00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:12.599 you know, what would the threat be? What would then 376 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:15.119 I what would I then use my genetic information for 377 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:16.960 I'm not going to show it at parties or anything. 378 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.079 Yeah, I mean, if you're not using it to find relatives, 379 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:22.920 and if you've already gotten the answers that you wanted 380 00:19:22.960 --> 00:19:27.000 about your any health markers that you may be predispositioned 381 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.720 for that you may want to act on, then it's 382 00:19:28.759 --> 00:19:32.559 just a matter of having it like within your you know, 383 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:36.480 on you and with with within your what's the expression, I'm. 384 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.920 Sorry, uh in my lock bombs here? 385 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.640 Basically, yeah, you can upload it to a secure cloud. 386 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.680 You can password protect it and keep it offline. It's basically, 387 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:48.799 you've got it, you own it. It is not for everyone. 388 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.319 If you I mean, I would download it if I 389 00:19:51.359 --> 00:19:53.839 had an option, rather than just delete it lively, just 390 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:55.960 in case you ever need it in the future. You 391 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:58.480 may have a medical professional that asks to see it 392 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:01.599 that could help unlock some things that can help you 393 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:05.160 live longer, live healthier, and they ask for that, Hey, 394 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:07.440 did you ever do any of those DNA tasks? Can 395 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:09.880 I see it? And you have a you know, a 396 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:13.440 vetted physician who's able to to tell you, you know, to 397 00:20:13.559 --> 00:20:16.119 use it responsibly, then you've got it. If you delete 398 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:18.640 it without downloading it, then you don't have anything, right, 399 00:20:18.720 --> 00:20:20.599 So I mean, you do it again. If you have 400 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:22.920 to do it again, it's you know, but you already 401 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:23.160