Speaker 1: It's night sign with Dan Ray I'm telling you pleasy
Speaker 1: Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Dan Walkins, Welcome back everybody. We're talking
Speaker 2: about a subject that, frankly, I want to hear from
Speaker 2: as many of you as possible on and that is
Speaker 2: is prolo or not prolo? Is covid? Is COVID making
Speaker 2: a comeback? I was thinking about prolo therapy. No is
Speaker 2: COVID making a comeback. I've seen some I use the
Speaker 2: word vectors, meaning signs. It's just fancy word for signs.
Speaker 2: I see more people wearing masks. I see there's been
Speaker 2: an uptick in the number of new cases and the
Speaker 2: number of new deaths in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: So last week there were twenty three hundred new cases
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts. That's a fraction of what it used to be,
Speaker 2: but that is a real significant increase from what it
Speaker 2: was just a couple of weeks or a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: The highest number of deaths last week sixteen deaths. So
Speaker 2: some of the medical materials, medical journals, and it would
Speaker 2: appear that COVID is a couple of new variations are
Speaker 2: active in other parts of the country. So I'm just
Speaker 2: looking for your experience. Let me go to Bill and Norfolk. Bill,
Speaker 2: I appreciate your way through the news.
Speaker 3: Go right ahead, Hey, Dan, how you doing, old Latin
Speaker 3: school guy? You know, not as all of you as
Speaker 3: I always say. Yeah, I mean, COVID is not going
Speaker 3: away ever, Dane. So it's you know, it comes, it goes,
Speaker 3: it's you know, I mean, what is the point are
Speaker 3: we going to go lock up our houses again? I mean,
Speaker 3: if we learned anything, those folks who are at high risk, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we got to take care of those folks. But I
Speaker 3: tell you, I'm not changing. I always call you I'm
Speaker 3: a musician. I'm coming from my gig right now. I
Speaker 3: do about four to five gigs a week in public places,
Speaker 3: and I'm not changing. Man. You know, it's.
Speaker 2: Ask you this, okay, since you're out dealing with the public.
Speaker 2: This is just you know, your observations, Okay. I understand
Speaker 2: what we are. I hope that these numbers are an
Speaker 2: anomaly and that this little, uh, this tick up that
Speaker 2: I've seen in the last couple of weeks, because I
Speaker 2: do follow the numbers fairly closely. Uh. And I'm also influenced.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that maybe the government every September has
Speaker 2: sent out these these uh, these COVID tests. What I
Speaker 2: don't understand is why the COVID tests only last for
Speaker 2: about three or four months. Uh if you if you
Speaker 2: hold them in your in your bathroom or whatever, and
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you think you have COVID.
Speaker 2: You go to take a test and you say and
Speaker 2: inspired a month ago. But you know why is I
Speaker 2: don't know why there's such such a short shelf life
Speaker 2: in your experience as a musician is going out to
Speaker 2: clubs on a regular basis, and congratulations with being able
Speaker 2: to do that. Have you noticed that your audience there's
Speaker 2: some more people wearing masks?
Speaker 3: Or it's not not one, not one. I mean I
Speaker 3: play a hotel in downtown boss And every Saturday night,
Speaker 3: and it's in Chinatown, and it's a different area there.
Speaker 3: Occasionally because people from all over the world are coming
Speaker 3: in there, you'll see masks, but I see no, I'm
Speaker 3: take a mass They've been masked now for the four
Speaker 3: or five years I've been playing there.
Speaker 2: What sort of an what type of an instrument do
Speaker 2: you play?
Speaker 3: If I'm curious, I'm a guitar player, and if I
Speaker 3: can just quickly just I know how quick you got
Speaker 3: to be here. Tell you my story. Last October I
Speaker 3: had to go to England and I actually played over there,
Speaker 3: so before I went, I got a COVID test and
Speaker 3: you and I we grew up during the polio times
Speaker 3: and diesel times, and I never thought twice about this
Speaker 3: stock scene. Man. You know, I had at least four
Speaker 3: or five shots. So I did it and I came back.
Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling good at a gig here and ended
Speaker 3: up at M G H E R in five days
Speaker 3: of that. Uh. Initially it was diagnosed as a heart attack.
Speaker 3: I got to the calf lab and I had five
Speaker 3: percent blockage, so I didn't have a I didn't heart
Speaker 3: attack at all. I had something called Perry carditis. Do
Speaker 3: you know what that is?
Speaker 4: Dan?
Speaker 2: It sounds like it's related as the hard I'll tell
Speaker 2: you that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Perry cardis my carditis.
Speaker 2: Usually both of them my carditis. A lot of people
Speaker 2: suffered from that. As a matter of fact, the Red
Speaker 2: Sox pitcher Rodrigue is the left hander. He was impacted
Speaker 2: by that, and that also affects a lot of young people,
Speaker 2: and it affects the heart muscle.
Speaker 3: And guess how you get it first of all, most
Speaker 3: COVID from viruses from viruses, but you also get it
Speaker 3: from the COVID shot. Well, so I got that. I
Speaker 3: had one doctor said he was ninety five percent sure
Speaker 3: it was the COVID shot, and just based on my health,
Speaker 3: I will wait what I waited in high school, so
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's and then that
Speaker 3: is I'm not getting that shot done, Dan, So you
Speaker 3: go ahead, man, if you want to do it.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal. I did get the Johnson and
Speaker 2: john Hsen and I have still had my COVID card.
Speaker 2: I just had my high dose flu shot a week
Speaker 2: and a half ago, and I think that the iris
Speaker 2: V shot might be more important for me. So That'll
Speaker 2: be probably my next shot, and then I'll see about COVID.
Speaker 2: I haven't had a COVID shot in probably over a year.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but when when that stuff was really kicking around. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm like you, I'm on the wrong side of fifty
Speaker 2: and you know, I was very much by the way
Speaker 2: the young state troopers who lost their jobs because they
Speaker 2: are used to including you know, you know Samantha Sila,
Speaker 2: a state trooper whose dad died on the job.
Speaker 3: Navy seals left the Navy, the most highly trained guys
Speaker 3: in the world because they wouldn't get that shot. You know,
Speaker 3: we let's not go back the way it used to be.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to, but the same, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: the same. It's a it's a decision people should make
Speaker 2: for themselves, exactly.
Speaker 3: You know. But like the woman, the older woman who
Speaker 3: called her, Yeah, you know, be careful if you're in
Speaker 3: your eighties, mid eighties and you immuno compromise absolutely. But
Speaker 3: I'm out in the world man as you are, and
Speaker 3: I'm locked up absolutely.
Speaker 2: I mentioned my my pal Cliff Ritchie, great tennis player
Speaker 2: in the in the nineteen late sixties, seventies into the seventies,
Speaker 2: great great tennis player ranked up there with Connors and
Speaker 2: Arthur Ash and McEnroe and had great matches with those guys.
Speaker 2: He's had long COVID and I mean it has done
Speaker 2: a number on this guy. And he's he was in
Speaker 2: great shape, I mean great shape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unfortunately. You know, I had COVID twice and
Speaker 3: it was less than nothing and it was like a cold.
Speaker 2: You know, you're probably you probably.
Speaker 3: So Paxlovin worked great, Like you said, you do it
Speaker 3: early with Pax Slovin like a dance. You catch it it,
Speaker 3: it'll go away pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: All right, Bill, appreciate you. Pall continue to listen to
Speaker 2: Nightside and let us know some night when you got
Speaker 2: a gig going and and we can plug the gig
Speaker 2: and and maybe get you a few nightside people going
Speaker 2: to the to the show.
Speaker 3: Mighty Squirrel in Wallfam Thursday night.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've never been of the Mighty Squirrel. Mighty Squirrel
Speaker 2: in Wallfam Thursday night. If anyone is interested, Bill from
Speaker 2: Norfolk will be playing there. Okay, are you the headline there?
Speaker 3: Are you the are you the yes sir?
Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
Speaker 3: It's a great brewery.
Speaker 2: It's one of these brewery, Mighty Squirrel in Waltham. All right, folks,
Speaker 2: if you're looking for a place to go on Thursday night,
Speaker 2: Bill from Norfolk will be there. He's a night side listener.
Speaker 2: Let's support him. Okay, I gotta work Thursday night. Bill, Sorry,
Speaker 2: i'd be there.
Speaker 3: Good night, good night.
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Speaker 1: This Now back to Dan ray Line from the window
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Speaker 2: Back to the phone as we go, We're going to
Speaker 2: talk next with Lisa from Somerville. Lisa, appreciate your paces
Speaker 2: you held through the news. Go right ahead, Lisa.
Speaker 5: Oh, actually I think it's I think you want Rachel.
Speaker 2: That's me Rachel. Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I think sometimes on the phone it sounds different.
Speaker 2: Okay, So are you from Somerville?
Speaker 5: I live here. Yes, I'm not rich, because.
Speaker 2: Said Lisa from Somerville. So I now I got Rachel Rachel.
Speaker 5: I think sometimes Yeah, it gives the story to sometimes
Speaker 5: over the phone. Well, I have a very different take
Speaker 5: on all of this from every from most of what
Speaker 5: I've heard tonight. First of all, PC artists are notoriously inaccurate.
Speaker 5: There are a lot of false positives and false negatives.
Speaker 5: And the guy who invented them, carried doctor Carrie Mallis,
Speaker 5: who's no longer with us, said he did not recommend
Speaker 5: them for diagnosis.
Speaker 2: And when you say, when you say PCR tests, are
Speaker 2: you're talking about the at home test? Is that what
Speaker 2: you're talking about?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: What is PCR? Standford, Because I've never heard it termed
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 5: I forget, I forget exactly right now. I could look
Speaker 5: it up, but anyway, it's I mean, that's well documented
Speaker 5: and if you're seeing, you know, people coming down with
Speaker 5: you know, flu like symptoms, it's by the way, I'm
Speaker 5: a retired nurse myself, so I really think that it's
Speaker 5: it's probably more likely to be the flu, not necessarily
Speaker 5: a new COVID variant, although that's possible too. But the
Speaker 5: other thing that I wanted to say is that the
Speaker 5: COVID vaccine has never been proven to be safe or
Speaker 5: effective and has a very high rate of vaccine injury,
Speaker 5: as we've heard from a couple of people tonight, and
Speaker 5: I have some friends who've been injured by it and
Speaker 5: really regret taking it. So I think people need to
Speaker 5: You've been lucky, Dan, and God bless you. But I
Speaker 5: think that it's you know, they removed this was an
Speaker 5: emergency use authorization. It's a very political thing, and they
Speaker 5: took away informed consent, so people don't really know what
Speaker 5: the risks are when they're signing up for that, well, you.
Speaker 2: Know, fearlessly, and I don't know if I if I Rachel,
Speaker 2: excuse me, I'm sorry, Rachel. I don't know. I was
Speaker 2: listening very intently to what you have to say. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you've been on on before, but there
Speaker 2: were a lot of people who we had on the
Speaker 2: show back in the day who raised concerns and questions rightfully,
Speaker 2: so uh and and and they So we kind of
Speaker 2: aired out a lot, and I came here's where I
Speaker 2: came to. You sound to me like you're you're pretty young.
Speaker 5: I think I'm not. I'm actually I'm actually in my sixties.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I consider that young. Anyway. Trying to make
Speaker 2: is that I believe it should be up to the individual.
Speaker 2: What really bothered me was when there were people in
Speaker 2: the military who were being mustered out of the military
Speaker 2: because they had refused a shot. I had a friend
Speaker 2: of mine who did a sports talk show in Canada,
Speaker 2: and he lost his job as a sports talk go
Speaker 2: host because he refused the COVID shot. He was convinced,
Speaker 2: like you are, that there was some potential side effects.
Speaker 2: I defended, and I still defend, some state police officers,
Speaker 2: young state police officers in their late twenties, about a
Speaker 2: dozen of them who were fired by the Baker administration.
Speaker 2: Who lost their jobs because they refused to take the shot.
Speaker 2: And I felt it was up to the individual, and
Speaker 2: I came to the conclusion. And I'm not the smartest
Speaker 2: guy in the world, but I did my research and
Speaker 2: I came to thenclusion that for someone like me, I'm
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of fifty. As you maybe have
Speaker 2: heard me.
Speaker 5: Say that, it was not saying that. No, I like
Speaker 5: the other guys take on it much better. You're on
Speaker 5: the right side of fifty or you're still here.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, I get it, I get it, but you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So, if I were a young
Speaker 2: man in my twenties or in my early thirties, or
Speaker 2: a young young woman, I might be very much concerned
Speaker 2: about the long term implication implications are and what sort
Speaker 2: of an impact might have had on your ability to
Speaker 2: have a child if you were so inclined. So I
Speaker 2: am very supportive of your position. At the same time,
Speaker 2: I think it's up to everybody to make their own decisions.
Speaker 2: And people were critical. They said to me, well, you
Speaker 2: know you can't sue, you can't sue the companies, and well,
Speaker 2: that was negotiated. I believed during the Reagular administration and Basically,
Speaker 2: the idea was that these companies had to spend millions
Speaker 2: of dollars, if not hundreds of millions of dollars on
Speaker 2: research R and D, research and development, and they weren't
Speaker 2: prepared to do it. If they were, also, they're going
Speaker 2: to be liable to massive lawsuits. So it's a complicated issue.
Speaker 2: It really.
Speaker 5: I wish I could talk to you for I wish
Speaker 5: I just get you alone and tell you the stuff
Speaker 5: that I know that I've really done a tremendous amount
Speaker 5: of research on in the last few years. But we
Speaker 5: don't have time.
Speaker 2: But I've probably seen most of the stuff because I
Speaker 2: have read a lot of the stuff that you're probably
Speaker 2: alluding to. Believe me.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, I want to say I agree with you
Speaker 5: one hundred percent that it should be a personal choice
Speaker 5: and there should never be in mandates like this and
Speaker 5: it's so unconstitutional. But I want to recommend a book
Speaker 5: to you that I think might really really change your perspective.
Speaker 5: And I just want to say that it's called Dissolving
Speaker 5: Illusions by Suzanne Humphries.
Speaker 3: Again, and it's all.
Speaker 2: About I have no idea who that is, so I mean,
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 5: Reck she's a physician. She's a physician. I believe she's
Speaker 5: from England and she you know, has been she's she's
Speaker 5: an expert on vaccines, and.
Speaker 2: They were they were physicians, that they were physicians who
Speaker 2: had real questions. I understand that they were real. But
Speaker 2: I think again, I think it's up to the individuals.
Speaker 2: It's what I'm trying to say, and I think people
Speaker 2: should be as informed as possible, and they also should
Speaker 2: be informed by what they're exposed to, meaning, you know,
Speaker 2: if they have some friend of theirs who gets real sick,
Speaker 2: that's going to influence them. If, on the other hand,
Speaker 2: they have someone who whose life is saved, I think
Speaker 2: it's an individual. That's that's where I have come down.
Speaker 6: Rachel's Yeah, I agree, because I have people who are
Speaker 6: so convinced on either side, you know, and I'm just
Speaker 6: not sworn enough to.
Speaker 2: Be able to give you a definitive statement. But I'm
Speaker 2: glad you called because I think it's important. Uh why
Speaker 2: do you think the government is sending out more test kits.
Speaker 5: I personally think the government cannot be trusted at this point,
Speaker 5: and they haven't done they have a whole other agenda,
Speaker 5: So I don't we don't have time enough to get
Speaker 5: into that, but they they have their reasons.
Speaker 2: Have you called me before, Rachel?
Speaker 5: Oh, maybe like three years ago?
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll call more Roff and we can discuss it
Speaker 2: going forwards.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, thanks Rachel, Thanks, thank you very much, good night.
Speaker 2: Rachel got a lot of time because Rachel had a
Speaker 2: different point of view, where we're gonna go next, We're
Speaker 2: gonna go next to Alex in the brock that Alex
Speaker 2: next on Nightside, going.
Speaker 7: Ahead, they did know, are you tonight doing great?
Speaker 2: Alex? What's your take on this? Am I panicking here?
Speaker 2: Or am I? Am I doing what Paul Revere did
Speaker 2: many years ago and basically said, I suppose that the
Speaker 2: British are coming, COVID's making a comeback. I think it is.
Speaker 7: Well, you know what, I think everybody wants to take
Speaker 7: the opportunity to capitalize on what could be a potential
Speaker 7: threat to the community, the environment, everything.
Speaker 3: But you take a.
Speaker 7: Look at the disease itself and you just want to
Speaker 7: treat your symptoms. You know, if you were able to
Speaker 7: treat your symptoms and you know, minimize the effects of
Speaker 7: the virus on your body, whether it's pneumonia or chronic
Speaker 7: sinus inflammation, stuff like that, things that can cause injury
Speaker 7: to the body.
Speaker 2: I think, just how would you What I'm saying is
Speaker 2: how would you treat the symptoms? Meaning and it was
Speaker 2: if you're talking.
Speaker 7: About all symptoms. Usually it's usually a cough where you
Speaker 7: would take like some kind of cough suppressant, something to
Speaker 7: clear out the lungs and stop the running nose. You know, covid, flu,
Speaker 7: it doesn't really matter. They're all in the same category.
Speaker 7: I'm a healthcare professional. I understand the complications that can occur.
Speaker 7: Whether it's covid or the flu, it doesn't matter. You
Speaker 7: just treat the symptoms and minimize the effects on your.
Speaker 2: Body as a healthcare professional. As a healthcare professional, do
Speaker 2: you get a flu shot every year or no?
Speaker 7: The last time I had a flu shot was in
Speaker 7: twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, so why did you stop it?
Speaker 7: I could ask, Well, actually, my friend was chasing me
Speaker 7: around the pharmacy. She wanted up her numbers of the
Speaker 7: flu shots. But it doesn't matter. Your body will take
Speaker 7: care of this self. If you're compromised, yeah, it's going
Speaker 7: to be it could be a problem, but it's no
Speaker 7: difference in the flu or the sinus infection and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. It's all the same thing. Well, the people
Speaker 7: need to stop planking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the regular flu, you know, kills a significant number
Speaker 2: of people every year, but that it was just like
Speaker 2: but it was it was a fraction. It's a fraction
Speaker 2: of the of the the flu deaths were a fraction
Speaker 2: of what COVID killed. Okay, I mean I assume you
Speaker 2: recognize that. As as a medical professional, I'm sure.
Speaker 7: There's a there's a lot of people that are just
Speaker 7: like predisposed to this this this problem, and they're they're
Speaker 7: gonna they could get very ill from it. In fact, true, Yes,
Speaker 7: if I could ask Alex, what do.
Speaker 2: You do as a medical professional? Just generally are you
Speaker 2: a doctor or a nurse or what.
Speaker 7: Or what in that category? In that category, I see
Speaker 7: it all day long.
Speaker 3: Which one all of them?
Speaker 2: Which what? You're a doctor? Okay? Fine, okay, yes, but
Speaker 2: I know that there were doctors. Look, I'm not questioning
Speaker 2: your credentials. I know that there are doctors who had
Speaker 2: that point of view. I'm just saying that how old
Speaker 2: are you? If I could ask.
Speaker 3: Fifty three?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're a young person as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: I mean that seriously, And you have no pre existing conditions,
Speaker 2: so you probably are are following a good course.
Speaker 7: The general population will recover from this. There's no need
Speaker 7: to panic, you know. You just you treat your symptoms
Speaker 7: and talk to your healthcare professional and get the best
Speaker 7: advice you could possibly get how to prevent you from
Speaker 7: getting pneumonia, because that's what really is the downfall is
Speaker 7: getting the pneumonia, and in this case, it's a viral
Speaker 7: type of ammonia, and that's what causes the problem and causes
Speaker 7: all the deaths.
Speaker 2: But why why do so many people people with COVID,
Speaker 2: Why do so many of them turn into pneumonia?
Speaker 7: The same thing happens with the flu, The same thing
Speaker 7: happens with the flu.
Speaker 2: All right, but but I I took a flu shot.
Speaker 2: I took a high dose flu shot. You know as
Speaker 2: a doctor what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Okay, are you over sixty five?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 7: All right, we get the high dose guy? All right, yes,
Speaker 7: I mean you.
Speaker 2: Recommend Let me ask you this, do you recommend your patience? Uh? Okay,
Speaker 2: Well that's good, that's great. Okay, right, well, look Alex,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you.
Speaker 7: Yes, and continue and try to prevent yourself from getting that,
Speaker 7: you know, serious infection and the lungs, that's the vital pneumonia,
Speaker 7: that's what causes the death.
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you on that. Thanks, Thanks doctor,
Speaker 2: appreciate it. Have a great night.
Speaker 8: Thanks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we take a quick break, coming right back on Night's.
Speaker 2: I got one line and we we will probably we don't.
Speaker 2: I don't have one line now. I have one line
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Speaker 2: interested in this issue. I think it's an important issue,
Speaker 2: whatever your point of view. More than welcome. We've had
Speaker 2: a doctor uh Rachel and Alex both were I think
Speaker 2: fairly skeptical of what I'm talking about tonight. But I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: And if you are or if you're not, it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: Sorry, you're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZY,
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Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling here. We're going to go to Georgian Bridgewater. Hey, George,
Speaker 2: welcome back to Nightside. Nice dear you boys, go ahead, George.
Speaker 8: V totally last year I had COVID day Left Island.
Speaker 8: I was thinking about I think it was.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, George, I'm gonna have I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: Rob get your line a little bit better to be
Speaker 2: honest with you. Okay, So just hang right there. We'll
Speaker 2: be right back to you. I promised Rob clean that lineup.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's gonna sell or whatever. Really
Speaker 2: going and in Boston and you're next on Nightsager, go
Speaker 2: right ahead.
Speaker 4: Hi, Well, i'd much. Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 4: And yeah, well I love your show. I've listened for many,
Speaker 4: many years.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 4: First, no, I have called before, and yeah, so I
Speaker 4: just want to tell you my story. It's not about COVID.
Speaker 4: But back in nineteen ninety nine, I was living in
Speaker 4: New York City and I have no idea how it happened.
Speaker 4: But somehow I got very sick and I found out
Speaker 4: through my doctor that I got hepatitis B and it's
Speaker 4: very very sick. I don't do drugs. I actually against
Speaker 4: even POD. I'm not a person. I've never was around,
Speaker 4: sleeping around or anything. I've no idea how I got it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that's apparently how you get it, and I don't know.
Speaker 4: So anyways, I came home and there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 4: And I looked it up and it said ninety nine
Speaker 4: percent of the people who get it recover. And so
Speaker 4: I went home, I rested, I ate well, and I
Speaker 4: got better and yes, and then the vaccine came out
Speaker 4: and I said, hey, you know, I got that, but
Speaker 4: I actually have the antibodies now, so I'll never get
Speaker 4: that again. And it actually made my immune system stronger.
Speaker 4: And you know, a lot of people out there with
Speaker 4: this COVID, I think that, you know, if you want
Speaker 4: to get the vaccine or you know, I wasn't against
Speaker 4: the vaccine. Everybody has a choice. It's what this country
Speaker 4: is made of.
Speaker 7: Freedom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody didn't have a choice. There were a lot
Speaker 2: of people who who who lost their jobs, particularly people
Speaker 2: military and police, officers, which I thought was crazy.
Speaker 4: Well, I actually walked away from my job. I actually
Speaker 4: not entirely. We closed down after the closed down. We
Speaker 4: shut down and it didn't hurt me a lot. However,
Speaker 4: I walked away from Boston because at that time, the
Speaker 4: passport UH was going on where if you weren't vaccinated,
Speaker 4: you couldn't even go into a restaurant. And I thought
Speaker 4: that was just bizarre that that would happen in the
Speaker 4: United States. And I just I really hope that it
Speaker 4: doesn't happen again.
Speaker 2: And I don't think we're at that point. I don't
Speaker 2: think we're at that point. I'm not suggesting we are,
Speaker 2: but I am suggesting that I see some signs I
Speaker 2: use the word vectors, that that are pointing towards maybe
Speaker 2: an uptake is coming at us. That's all I hope
Speaker 2: I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: I suggest that you know elderberry syrup, you make it homemade,
Speaker 4: and it's wonderful, and you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 4: ways too. I mean, it is winter and when you know.
Speaker 2: When do you make elderberry syrup? I've heard the name,
Speaker 2: but I have no idea how you would make that.
Speaker 2: What do you make?
Speaker 4: It's pretty easy it's you get buy some dry elderberry seeds,
Speaker 4: and I would suggest looking it up. I follow the
Speaker 4: recipe on wellness Mama.
Speaker 8: I like.
Speaker 4: Honey at cinnamon and nutmeg, and I think garlic, and
Speaker 4: that's about it. And it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: There's no whiskey in there.
Speaker 7: Any whiskey in there in my theology of that.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they did that in the old days.
Speaker 2: All right, well, Lee, and thank you, thank you for
Speaker 2: that piece of advice. That's very helpful. Possibly, okay, thank
Speaker 2: you much, welcome you. So let me get let's see
Speaker 2: if George's line has got cleaned up. George, go right ahead.
Speaker 2: Hope your line is cleaned up.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's cleaned up. I took it off
Speaker 8: Wi Fi, put her on data T mobile taught me
Speaker 8: that so much better.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I did get COVID the day you left for Ireland.
Speaker 8: That was I think the seventeenth or something. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: That's a year ago, year ago, this year right now.
Speaker 2: I was in Ireland a year ago, you're absolutely.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, yeah, And I took FLA plaque's lovered and
Speaker 8: I just felt like I had the sniffles. So it
Speaker 8: was excellent drug. But the reason why I called is
Speaker 8: the VA told me last year they I always get
Speaker 8: the flu shot because I had the pandemic flu of
Speaker 8: nineteen sixty eight, sixty nine, skip seventy and came back
Speaker 8: in seventy one. I was on my back for thirty days,
Speaker 8: so I always get the flu shot. But the VA
Speaker 8: told me, the VA told me this, damn and their
Speaker 8: doctor is not nurses. I'm married to a nurse and
Speaker 8: she thinks she's a doctor.
Speaker 2: Nurse is often better than doctors. But we'll let we'll
Speaker 2: let that go for another night.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll go by that. But
Speaker 8: what the nurse told me at the VA is, look,
Speaker 8: you're probably gonna have to get the covid shot every year,
Speaker 8: every single year, just like you get the flu shot.
Speaker 8: You'll come in put a flu shot like you do
Speaker 8: on because I go to the VIA almost every month.
Speaker 2: So I thought they were going to have I thought
Speaker 2: they were going to have combined flu and regular flu
Speaker 2: and then a COVID shot like a one one injection shot.
Speaker 2: And someone told me that they have not quite been
Speaker 2: able to manufacture that or master the manufacturer of that yet.
Speaker 8: So it's yeah, you're yeah, you you stole my thunder.
Speaker 8: I think they're working on it, but uh, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm sure in the future we're probably going to you
Speaker 8: like to get the flu shot every year I do
Speaker 8: what's probably one day going to be combined. I'm sure
Speaker 8: Fizer and the rest of them are working on it.
Speaker 8: But that's what the VA and the nurse told me
Speaker 8: that she's I said, where do you get that information from?
Speaker 8: She says, I talked to several doctors and it looks
Speaker 8: like he's going to be needing the COVID shot year
Speaker 8: after year. I don't know if you know it, but
Speaker 8: there's two new variances out that are very contagious this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is called it? I think it's called KP
Speaker 2: one K two and KP's yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you keep up on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to keep up on this.
Speaker 2: It's my job, George, I know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right. I just wanted to give out that
Speaker 8: in me.
Speaker 2: Do be your favor when next time you call, keep
Speaker 2: it right here, get off the Wi Fi and whatever.
Speaker 2: This this was a really good connection and a good call.
Speaker 2: Thank you much.
Speaker 3: Oh great, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, George. Let me get Elizabeth from Tennessee. In
Speaker 2: here real quickly before the break. Elizabeth, I know you've
Speaker 2: never called from Tennessee. How are you tonight?
Speaker 9: I'm pretty good.
Speaker 10: I second to Elderberry because it does really work even
Speaker 10: if you have the common cold symptoms. I don't make
Speaker 10: it myself, but I get the organic from the supermarket
Speaker 10: or the pharmacy and it works just as well.
Speaker 2: Where about Tennessee are you calling from.
Speaker 10: I'm in Knoxville.
Speaker 2: Really, that's the.
Speaker 10: Home of Bostonian. I'm a Bostonian. I listened to this
Speaker 10: program religiously, but I'm on I work in Knoxville, but
Speaker 10: I'm from Boston. Grew up in Boston all my life
Speaker 10: in Dorchester.
Speaker 2: What brought you in Dochester? What brought you to Knoxville.
Speaker 10: Well, I, like I said, it was work the University
Speaker 10: of Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'll tell you. I have a friend of
Speaker 2: mine who I made a friend with this summer, who
Speaker 2: teaches in the journalism department at the University of Tennessee.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 10: Well, I'm in agriculture and this university is huge. But
Speaker 10: like I said, listen, they mandated vaccines at the university.
Speaker 10: But I don't take vaccines because let me tell you
Speaker 10: from the time I was a kid, I went to
Speaker 10: school in Lincoln, Massachusetts, and when they gave us a
Speaker 10: German measles shot, I got the German measles. When they
Speaker 10: gave us a regular measle shot, I got the measles.
Speaker 10: So I mean, it just went against my body because
Speaker 10: you know, when they inject you, they're injecting you with
Speaker 10: the flu.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, because that is what creates the indo body.
Speaker 10: Yes, well, let me tell you something. Everybody that gets
Speaker 10: the flu shot now they get sick with the flu,
Speaker 10: and you know what, it's a different strain of the flu.
Speaker 10: So ever year they come up with a different strain.
Speaker 10: It doesn't make any sense to me. I think that
Speaker 10: your body has a natural way of fighting off things.
Speaker 10: And like the other gentleman said, listen, fresh ear, sunshine,
Speaker 10: take your herbs, fight that air nose throat. That's how
Speaker 10: the virus enters your body through your ear nose and throat.
Speaker 10: When I feel symptomatic, I put my face over a
Speaker 10: pot of water and I steam and the symptoms disappear.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you advice.
Speaker 10: I've been exposed to COVID over and over, but I've
Speaker 10: never had it because I deal with the symptoms. Like
Speaker 10: you said, deal with your symptoms and you eliminate it
Speaker 10: out of your body. So I'm glad that people are
Speaker 10: calling giving this advice which is non medical, because you
Speaker 10: don't need the drugs. You don't need the drugs.
Speaker 2: Well, I love you. This obviously is your first time calling,
Speaker 2: because I've never heard from before. A big one of
Speaker 2: a clause of Elizabeth. If you run into Professor brooks Clark, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going.
Speaker 10: To look him up in the system tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Brooks Clark right, he had been worked as a sports
Speaker 2: writer for UH Sports Illustrated and now he's team at
Speaker 2: the University of Tennessee. And I met him this summer.
Speaker 2: I had some great conversations with him about journalism. UH
Speaker 2: and he's uh, he's he's from a New England family,
Speaker 2: but he's he's teaching has taken him into the brooks
Speaker 2: Clark c l A r K.
Speaker 10: I will look him up and tell him.
Speaker 2: You will listen into the show. Are you listening on
Speaker 2: the radio on the internet?
Speaker 10: I am on the I am on the internet.
Speaker 2: And let me ask you, how did you find this.
Speaker 10: Excellent nobody? I listened to this. I listened to this
Speaker 10: radio station all the time because I need to keep
Speaker 10: up with what's going on in Boston.
Speaker 2: In your hometown. Well, Elizabeth, come on back as often
Speaker 2: as you. I really do appreciate it. I have a
Speaker 2: I have a good friend of mine who's a state senator,
Speaker 2: uh in Tennessee.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He's not in Knoxville. He's kind of, I think, on
Speaker 2: the other end of the.
Speaker 10: Probably in Nashville. A lot of them are in Nashville.
Speaker 2: He's in Chattanooga.
Speaker 10: Outside of he's in Chattanooga. Okay, all right, is that
Speaker 10: close to you three hours three hour drive?
Speaker 2: Well, of course down in Tennessee. That's right. His name
Speaker 2: is Todd Gardner, So I do have some connections in Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Love to hear from folks from different different folks around
Speaker 2: the country. I'm looking forward to your second call.
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thanks Elizabeth. That's a great call. Professor Brooks Clark look
Speaker 2: him up. Thanks. Journalists, Yes, all right, gonna come right back.
Speaker 2: I got Brenda and Winchester, I got Betty in the boat.
Speaker 2: I got Paul and Pa and Ed and Merrimack. I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to get everybody in and then we
Speaker 2: are I think, well, unless we're going to keep going
Speaker 2: on that. We could do three hours in this if
Speaker 2: you want, okay, and we can hold off on the
Speaker 2: Trump assassin and what came out in court today. We'll
Speaker 2: figure it out. We'll figure it out because we're a
Speaker 2: family here on Nightside. Coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: We're rollings and let's go to Brenda in Winchester. Hi, Brenda,
Speaker 2: how are you?
Speaker 11: I'm good, dear, how are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great? We got packed lines here. Brenda, going
Speaker 2: to try to tay a couple more right ahead.
Speaker 11: Well, I stopped taking the flu shot and the COVID
Speaker 11: shot last year because every year I was definitely ill
Speaker 11: every single year. And then when I went to my
Speaker 11: physical my doctor told me do not get the COVID shot.
Speaker 11: And I said why and she said, just I'm doing
Speaker 11: some research on what's in it, and she said, do
Speaker 11: not take it unless I tell you to. So I
Speaker 11: didn't take it last year and I didn't get sick.
Speaker 11: I didn't get the flu. I've had the flu for
Speaker 11: six years. I did not get the flu. I had
Speaker 11: no problem. But the flu. The COVID shot gave me
Speaker 11: really bad problems with my ears in dizziness awful, awful,
Speaker 11: I'd wake up and I have no control that dizzeyness
Speaker 11: is so bad. So right, Oh, yes, yeah, and you
Speaker 11: know she said do not. She said, I've had more
Speaker 11: people come in and tell me the same thing. They
Speaker 11: never had any problem with dizziness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think again, it's I think it's everybody has
Speaker 2: to make their own decisions.
Speaker 11: I wear my mask after I'd want to stop wearing
Speaker 11: my mask down at the drinks because there's a lot
Speaker 11: of people around, and so it's the season to do.
Speaker 11: And if I wear that constantly, I just I didn't
Speaker 11: get sick at all, and I almost died two years ago,
Speaker 11: and I have one of my lungs has been affected
Speaker 11: and so yeah, and I you know, I don't and
Speaker 11: I've got a terrible cough and I can't get rid
Speaker 11: of it.
Speaker 2: Well, look, you continue to get stay healthy is what
Speaker 2: I want you.
Speaker 11: I am gonna stay healthy, believe me, I am. But
Speaker 11: I mean it's it's okay if somebody else does it,
Speaker 11: and you know, we're all free to. But I decided
Speaker 11: when she said no flush, no, uh, COVID shot, I said, well,
Speaker 11: I'm not going to take the flu shot. I want
Speaker 11: to find out what's going to happen. And I have
Speaker 11: not got sick once.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Okay, thanks, all right,
Speaker 2: Thanks Brenda, talk soon.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, take care, talk to you soon.
Speaker 2: Good night. Let me see I just get We're going
Speaker 2: to have to take this into the next hour. Okay,
Speaker 2: So for those of you who don't get on, I
Speaker 2: will take it into the next hour. Trust me, ed
Speaker 2: and merrimack ed. You've been on the longest. Go ahead.
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hi, nice to talk to you again. Dan. I
Speaker 9: haven't talked to you in a couple of years.
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm back, more off and go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Oh, if I listened to you, you piqued my interest.
Speaker 9: I won't get myself in trouble because I don't tell
Speaker 9: anyone what to do. But I'm seven and I have
Speaker 9: an environmental illness from exposure to chemicals in the school
Speaker 9: that happened to me many years ago in Florida. So
Speaker 9: I'm an asthmatic and I have to unfortunately take medications,
Speaker 9: but i'd stay pretty well. But my observation is this,
Speaker 9: especially in Massachusetts. If you take a car ride to
Speaker 9: Connecticut or New Hampshire, they at least offer a lot
Speaker 9: more places to go and use the facilities and wash
Speaker 9: your hands. In Massachusetts, some of the places that you
Speaker 9: travel to, there's no place to really get clean. And
Speaker 9: just because I had been a nurse a long time ago,
Speaker 9: I kind of watch and see what people do, and
Speaker 9: I'd say a lot of people are not washing their hands.
Speaker 9: They touch the dirty faucets after they think they wash
Speaker 9: their hands, and you know, sometimes that stuff. It's a
Speaker 9: simple thing, you know, And most people have a cell phone.
Speaker 9: I wonder how often people will wipe their cell phone
Speaker 9: with its obviously, and even you're steering, even your steering wheel,
Speaker 9: or when you come home from the grocery store, you know,
Speaker 9: wash your hands because you've been out with everybody in
Speaker 9: the world. But the one thing I would say, I
Speaker 9: would say this, I have not had COVID. I went
Speaker 9: to my vacation home during the height of the pandemic
Speaker 9: and I stayed there by myself, which most people can't do.
Speaker 9: So I'm not telling people.
Speaker 3: What to do.
Speaker 9: I did it for myself because if I got sick,
Speaker 9: my doctor told me I could die. Before the pandemic hit.
Speaker 9: I even though I get the flu shot every year,
Speaker 9: one year I got influenza A and I was deathly sick,
Speaker 9: and then my housemate got it because the air and
Speaker 9: the house recirculates. But I would say this, if you've
Speaker 9: ever gone to an emergency room and you've had to
Speaker 9: sit there for six to eight hours, and the whole
Speaker 9: society was dealing with this, The whole world was dealing
Speaker 9: with this. I think the emphasis on getting the show
Speaker 9: was they were hoping that it was the best thing
Speaker 9: for most people. And when you talk about people in
Speaker 9: public life who provide services, if they're coming to you
Speaker 9: to help you, you don't want them to bring the
Speaker 9: COVID to you. So in some way I think as
Speaker 9: a as a general societal thing, I think there was
Speaker 9: that kind of emphasis.
Speaker 2: I think they would look over what they called at
Speaker 2: the time herd immunity.
Speaker 9: Or like yeah, or like how do we how do
Speaker 9: we take care of everybody? What if nobody got the
Speaker 9: shots and everybody got definitely sick and docking.
Speaker 10: I think.
Speaker 2: The eleven but rob is in my ear. I got
Speaker 2: to get out of the way.
Speaker 3: For the nice to talk. Everybody, wash, wash your hand, call.
Speaker 2: That's what your mother told you. Call more often. Okay,
Speaker 2: I thank you. I'd write calls tonight. Thanks. Thanks ed Uh.
Speaker 2: If you're here, Betty on the boat, Joe and Boston
Speaker 2: Paul in Pennsylvania were sticking with you. We'll stick with
Speaker 2: the topic. If we have to, We'll take it all
Speaker 2: the way to midnight, coming back on nightside