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<v Speaker 1>It's night sign with Dan Ray I'm telling you pleasy

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<v Speaker 1>Boston News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks very much, Dan Walkins, Welcome back everybody. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about a subject that, frankly, I want to hear from

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<v Speaker 2>as many of you as possible on and that is

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<v Speaker 2>is prolo or not prolo? Is covid? Is COVID making

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<v Speaker 2>a comeback? I was thinking about prolo therapy. No is

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<v Speaker 2>COVID making a comeback. I've seen some I use the

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<v Speaker 2>word vectors, meaning signs. It's just fancy word for signs.

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<v Speaker 2>I see more people wearing masks. I see there's been

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<v Speaker 2>an uptick in the number of new cases and the

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<v Speaker 2>number of new deaths in the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>So last week there were twenty three hundred new cases

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<v Speaker 2>in Massachusetts. That's a fraction of what it used to be,

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<v Speaker 2>but that is a real significant increase from what it

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<v Speaker 2>was just a couple of weeks or a few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>The highest number of deaths last week sixteen deaths. So

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<v Speaker 2>some of the medical materials, medical journals, and it would

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<v Speaker 2>appear that COVID is a couple of new variations are

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<v Speaker 2>active in other parts of the country. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>looking for your experience. Let me go to Bill and Norfolk. Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your way through the news.

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<v Speaker 3>Go right ahead, Hey, Dan, how you doing, old Latin

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<v Speaker 3>school guy? You know, not as all of you as

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<v Speaker 3>I always say. Yeah, I mean, COVID is not going

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<v Speaker 3>away ever, Dane. So it's you know, it comes, it goes,

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, I mean, what is the point are

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<v Speaker 3>we going to go lock up our houses again? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>if we learned anything, those folks who are at high risk, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we got to take care of those folks. But I

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<v Speaker 3>tell you, I'm not changing. I always call you I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a musician. I'm coming from my gig right now. I

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<v Speaker 3>do about four to five gigs a week in public places,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm not changing. Man. You know, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask you this, okay, since you're out dealing with the public.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just you know, your observations, Okay. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>what we are. I hope that these numbers are an

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<v Speaker 2>anomaly and that this little, uh, this tick up that

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen in the last couple of weeks, because I

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<v Speaker 2>do follow the numbers fairly closely. Uh. And I'm also influenced.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that maybe the government every September has

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<v Speaker 2>sent out these these uh, these COVID tests. What I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand is why the COVID tests only last for

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<v Speaker 2>about three or four months. Uh if you if you

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<v Speaker 2>hold them in your in your bathroom or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden you think you have COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>You go to take a test and you say and

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<v Speaker 2>inspired a month ago. But you know why is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why there's such such a short shelf life

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<v Speaker 2>in your experience as a musician is going out to

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<v Speaker 2>clubs on a regular basis, and congratulations with being able

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. Have you noticed that your audience there's

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<v Speaker 2>some more people wearing masks?

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<v Speaker 3>Or it's not not one, not one. I mean I

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<v Speaker 3>play a hotel in downtown boss And every Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's in Chinatown, and it's a different area there.

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<v Speaker 3>Occasionally because people from all over the world are coming

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<v Speaker 3>in there, you'll see masks, but I see no, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>take a mass They've been masked now for the four

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<v Speaker 3>or five years I've been playing there.

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<v Speaker 2>What sort of an what type of an instrument do

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<v Speaker 2>you play?

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm curious, I'm a guitar player, and if I

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<v Speaker 3>can just quickly just I know how quick you got

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<v Speaker 3>to be here. Tell you my story. Last October I

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<v Speaker 3>had to go to England and I actually played over there,

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<v Speaker 3>so before I went, I got a COVID test and

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<v Speaker 3>you and I we grew up during the polio times

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<v Speaker 3>and diesel times, and I never thought twice about this

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<v Speaker 3>stock scene. Man. You know, I had at least four

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<v Speaker 3>or five shots. So I did it and I came back.

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't feeling good at a gig here and ended

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<v Speaker 3>up at M G H E R in five days

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<v Speaker 3>of that. Uh. Initially it was diagnosed as a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to the calf lab and I had five

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<v Speaker 3>percent blockage, so I didn't have a I didn't heart

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<v Speaker 3>attack at all. I had something called Perry carditis. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you know what that is?

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<v Speaker 4>Dan?

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like it's related as the hard I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Perry cardis my carditis.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually both of them my carditis. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>suffered from that. As a matter of fact, the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Sox pitcher Rodrigue is the left hander. He was impacted

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<v Speaker 2>by that, and that also affects a lot of young people,

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<v Speaker 2>and it affects the heart muscle.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess how you get it first of all, most

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<v Speaker 3>COVID from viruses from viruses, but you also get it

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<v Speaker 3>from the COVID shot. Well, so I got that. I

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<v Speaker 3>had one doctor said he was ninety five percent sure

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<v Speaker 3>it was the COVID shot, and just based on my health,

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<v Speaker 3>I will wait what I waited in high school, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. So it's and then that

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<v Speaker 3>is I'm not getting that shot done, Dan, So you

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<v Speaker 3>go ahead, man, if you want to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the deal. I did get the Johnson and

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<v Speaker 2>john Hsen and I have still had my COVID card.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had my high dose flu shot a week

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<v Speaker 2>and a half ago, and I think that the iris

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<v Speaker 2>V shot might be more important for me. So That'll

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<v Speaker 2>be probably my next shot, and then I'll see about COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't had a COVID shot in probably over a year.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, but when when that stuff was really kicking around. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like you, I'm on the wrong side of fifty

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I was very much by the way

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<v Speaker 2>the young state troopers who lost their jobs because they

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<v Speaker 2>are used to including you know, you know Samantha Sila,

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<v Speaker 2>a state trooper whose dad died on the job.

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<v Speaker 3>Navy seals left the Navy, the most highly trained guys

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<v Speaker 3>in the world because they wouldn't get that shot. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>we let's not go back the way it used to be.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't want to, but the same, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the same. It's a it's a decision people should make

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<v Speaker 2>for themselves, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. But like the woman, the older woman who

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<v Speaker 3>called her, Yeah, you know, be careful if you're in

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<v Speaker 3>your eighties, mid eighties and you immuno compromise absolutely. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out in the world man as you are, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm locked up absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned my my pal Cliff Ritchie, great tennis player

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the nineteen late sixties, seventies into the seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>great great tennis player ranked up there with Connors and

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<v Speaker 2>Arthur Ash and McEnroe and had great matches with those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had long COVID and I mean it has done

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<v Speaker 2>a number on this guy. And he's he was in

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<v Speaker 2>great shape, I mean great shape.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's unfortunately. You know, I had COVID twice and

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<v Speaker 3>it was less than nothing and it was like a cold.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're probably you probably.

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<v Speaker 3>So Paxlovin worked great, Like you said, you do it

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<v Speaker 3>early with Pax Slovin like a dance. You catch it it,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll go away pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Bill, appreciate you. Pall continue to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside and let us know some night when you got

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<v Speaker 2>a gig going and and we can plug the gig

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<v Speaker 2>and and maybe get you a few nightside people going

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Mighty Squirrel in Wallfam Thursday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've never been of the Mighty Squirrel. Mighty Squirrel

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<v Speaker 2>in Wallfam Thursday night. If anyone is interested, Bill from

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<v Speaker 2>Norfolk will be playing there. Okay, are you the headline there?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you the are you the yes sir?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great brewery.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of these brewery, Mighty Squirrel in Waltham. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're looking for a place to go on Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 2>Bill from Norfolk will be there. He's a night side listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's support him. Okay, I gotta work Thursday night. Bill, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd be there.

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<v Speaker 3>Good night, good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Six one seven, two five four ten thirty. We got

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<v Speaker 2>night Side right after.

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<v Speaker 1>This Now back to Dan ray Line from the window

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phone as we go, We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk next with Lisa from Somerville. Lisa, appreciate your paces

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<v Speaker 2>you held through the news. Go right ahead, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, actually I think it's I think you want Rachel.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me Rachel. Okay, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>I think sometimes on the phone it sounds different.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So are you from Somerville?

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<v Speaker 5>I live here. Yes, I'm not rich, because.

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<v Speaker 2>Said Lisa from Somerville. So I now I got Rachel Rachel.

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<v Speaker 5>I think sometimes Yeah, it gives the story to sometimes

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<v Speaker 5>over the phone. Well, I have a very different take

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<v Speaker 5>on all of this from every from most of what

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<v Speaker 5>I've heard tonight. First of all, PC artists are notoriously inaccurate.

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<v Speaker 5>There are a lot of false positives and false negatives.

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<v Speaker 5>And the guy who invented them, carried doctor Carrie Mallis,

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<v Speaker 5>who's no longer with us, said he did not recommend

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<v Speaker 2>And when you say, when you say PCR tests, are

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about the at home test? Is that what

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>What is PCR? Standford, Because I've never heard it termed

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<v Speaker 5>I forget, I forget exactly right now. I could look

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<v Speaker 5>it up, but anyway, it's I mean, that's well documented

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<v Speaker 5>it's probably more likely to be the flu, not necessarily

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<v Speaker 5>COVID vaccine has never been proven to be safe or

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<v Speaker 5>effective and has a very high rate of vaccine injury,

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<v Speaker 5>as we've heard from a couple of people tonight, and

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<v Speaker 5>I have some friends who've been injured by it and

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<v Speaker 5>really regret taking it. So I think people need to

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<v Speaker 5>You've been lucky, Dan, and God bless you. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think that it's you know, they removed this was an

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<v Speaker 5>emergency use authorization. It's a very political thing, and they

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<v Speaker 5>took away informed consent, so people don't really know what

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<v Speaker 5>the risks are when they're signing up for that, well, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, fearlessly, and I don't know if I if I Rachel,

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<v Speaker 2>excuse me, I'm sorry, Rachel. I don't know. I was

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<v Speaker 2>listening very intently to what you have to say. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've been on on before, but there

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<v Speaker 2>were a lot of people who we had on the

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<v Speaker 2>show back in the day who raised concerns and questions rightfully,

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<v Speaker 2>so uh and and and they So we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>came to. You sound to me like you're you're pretty young.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I'm not. I'm actually I'm actually in my sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well I consider that young. Anyway. Trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>is that I believe it should be up to the individual.

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<v Speaker 2>like you are, that there was some potential side effects.

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<v Speaker 2>Who lost their jobs because they refused to take the shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And I felt it was up to the individual, and

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<v Speaker 5>Say that, it was not saying that. No, I like

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<v Speaker 5>the other guys take on it much better. You're on

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<v Speaker 2>of an impact might have had on your ability to

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<v Speaker 2>am very supportive of your position. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's up to everybody to make their own decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>And people were critical. They said to me, well, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you can't sue, you can't sue the companies, and well,

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<v Speaker 2>that was negotiated. I believed during the Reagular administration and Basically,

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<v Speaker 2>prepared to do it. If they were, also, they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be liable to massive lawsuits. So it's a complicated issue.

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<v Speaker 2>It really.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've probably seen most of the stuff because I

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<v Speaker 2>have read a lot of the stuff that you're probably

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Well, I want to say I agree with you

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred percent that it should be a personal choice

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<v Speaker 5>and there should never be in mandates like this and

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<v Speaker 5>it's so unconstitutional. But I want to recommend a book

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<v Speaker 5>to you that I think might really really change your perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just want to say that it's called Dissolving

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<v Speaker 5>Illusions by Suzanne Humphries.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, and it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>About I have no idea who that is, so I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>Reck she's a physician. She's a physician. I believe she's

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<v Speaker 5>from England and she you know, has been she's she's

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<v Speaker 2>They were they were physicians, that they were physicians who

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<v Speaker 2>I think again, I think it's up to the individuals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what I'm trying to say, and I think people

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<v Speaker 2>should be as informed as possible, and they also should

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<v Speaker 2>if they have some friend of theirs who gets real sick,

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to influence them. If, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 6>Rachel's Yeah, I agree, because I have people who are

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<v Speaker 6>so convinced on either side, you know, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>Be able to give you a definitive statement. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad you called because I think it's important. Uh why

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<v Speaker 2>do you think the government is sending out more test kits.

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<v Speaker 5>I personally think the government cannot be trusted at this point,

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<v Speaker 5>and they haven't done they have a whole other agenda,

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't we don't have time enough to get

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<v Speaker 2>Have you called me before, Rachel?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, maybe like three years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll call more Roff and we can discuss it

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<v Speaker 2>going forwards.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, thanks Rachel, Thanks, thank you very much, good night.

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<v Speaker 2>Rachel got a lot of time because Rachel had a

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<v Speaker 2>different point of view, where we're gonna go next, We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go next to Alex in the brock that Alex

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<v Speaker 7>Ahead, they did know, are you tonight doing great?

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<v Speaker 2>Alex? What's your take on this? Am I panicking here?

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<v Speaker 2>Or am I? Am I doing what Paul Revere did

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<v Speaker 2>many years ago and basically said, I suppose that the

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<v Speaker 2>British are coming, COVID's making a comeback. I think it is.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know what, I think everybody wants to take

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<v Speaker 7>the opportunity to capitalize on what could be a potential

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<v Speaker 3>But you take a.

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<v Speaker 7>Look at the disease itself and you just want to

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<v Speaker 7>treat your symptoms. You know, if you were able to

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<v Speaker 2>I think, just how would you What I'm saying is

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<v Speaker 2>if you're talking.

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<v Speaker 7>About all symptoms. Usually it's usually a cough where you

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<v Speaker 7>would take like some kind of cough suppressant, something to

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<v Speaker 7>clear out the lungs and stop the running nose. You know, covid, flu,

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't really matter. They're all in the same category.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a healthcare professional. I understand the complications that can occur.

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<v Speaker 7>Whether it's covid or the flu, it doesn't matter. You

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<v Speaker 2>Body as a healthcare professional. As a healthcare professional, do

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<v Speaker 2>you get a flu shot every year or no?

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<v Speaker 7>The last time I had a flu shot was in

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so why did you stop it?

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<v Speaker 7>flu shots. But it doesn't matter. Your body will take

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<v Speaker 7>to be it could be a problem, but it's no

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<v Speaker 7>like that. It's all the same thing. Well, the people

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the regular flu, you know, kills a significant number

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<v Speaker 2>of people every year, but that it was just like

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<v Speaker 2>but it was it was a fraction. It's a fraction

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<v Speaker 2>of the of the the flu deaths were a fraction

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<v Speaker 2>of what COVID killed. Okay, I mean I assume you

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<v Speaker 7>There's a there's a lot of people that are just

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<v Speaker 2>You do as a medical professional? Just generally are you

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<v Speaker 3>Which one all of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Which what? You're a doctor? Okay? Fine, okay, yes, but

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<v Speaker 2>your credentials. I know that there are doctors who had

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<v Speaker 3>Fifty three?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that seriously, And you have no pre existing conditions,

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<v Speaker 7>The general population will recover from this. There's no need

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<v Speaker 7>to panic, you know. You just you treat your symptoms

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<v Speaker 7>and talk to your healthcare professional and get the best

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<v Speaker 7>getting pneumonia, because that's what really is the downfall is

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<v Speaker 7>getting the pneumonia, and in this case, it's a viral

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<v Speaker 7>type of ammonia, and that's what causes the problem and causes

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<v Speaker 7>all the deaths.

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<v Speaker 2>But why why do so many people people with COVID,

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<v Speaker 2>Why do so many of them turn into pneumonia?

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<v Speaker 7>happens with the flu.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but but I I took a flu shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I took a high dose flu shot. You know as

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<v Speaker 2>Recommend Let me ask you this, do you recommend your patience? Uh? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, and continue and try to prevent yourself from getting that,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, serious infection and the lungs, that's the vital pneumonia,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. I'm with you on that. Thanks, Thanks doctor,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it. Have a great night.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one line and we we will probably we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>at six one seven. We will take this to eleven o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever your point of view. More than welcome. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor uh Rachel and Alex both were I think

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<v Speaker 2>fairly skeptical of what I'm talking about tonight. But I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>a certain subject. I just care that you're thinking. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what Nightside is all about. Six one seven, nine, three,

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<v Speaker 1>Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep rolling here. We're going to go to Georgian Bridgewater. Hey, George,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to Nightside. Nice dear you boys, go ahead, George.

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<v Speaker 8>V totally last year I had COVID day Left Island.

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<v Speaker 8>I was thinking about I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, George, I'm gonna have I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>Rob get your line a little bit better to be

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<v Speaker 2>honest with you. Okay, So just hang right there. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be right back to you. I promised Rob clean that lineup.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if he's gonna sell or whatever. Really

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<v Speaker 2>going and in Boston and you're next on Nightsager, go

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Well, i'd much. Hi, thank you for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, well I love your show. I've listened for many,

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<v Speaker 4>many years.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>First, no, I have called before, and yeah, so I

425
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<v Speaker 4>just want to tell you my story. It's not about COVID.

426
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<v Speaker 4>But back in nineteen ninety nine, I was living in

427
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<v Speaker 4>New York City and I have no idea how it happened.

428
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<v Speaker 4>But somehow I got very sick and I found out

429
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<v Speaker 4>through my doctor that I got hepatitis B and it's

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<v Speaker 4>very very sick. I don't do drugs. I actually against

431
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<v Speaker 4>even POD. I'm not a person. I've never was around,

432
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<v Speaker 4>sleeping around or anything. I've no idea how I got it. Yeah,

433
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<v Speaker 4>but that's apparently how you get it, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyways, I came home and there's nothing you can do.

435
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<v Speaker 4>And I looked it up and it said ninety nine

436
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<v Speaker 4>percent of the people who get it recover. And so

437
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<v Speaker 4>I went home, I rested, I ate well, and I

438
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<v Speaker 4>got better and yes, and then the vaccine came out

439
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<v Speaker 4>and I said, hey, you know, I got that, but

440
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<v Speaker 4>I actually have the antibodies now, so I'll never get

441
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<v Speaker 4>that again. And it actually made my immune system stronger.

442
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<v Speaker 4>And you know, a lot of people out there with

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<v Speaker 4>this COVID, I think that, you know, if you want

444
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<v Speaker 4>to get the vaccine or you know, I wasn't against

445
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<v Speaker 4>the vaccine. Everybody has a choice. It's what this country

446
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<v Speaker 4>is made of.

447
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<v Speaker 7>Freedom.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, everybody didn't have a choice. There were a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people who who who lost their jobs, particularly people

450
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<v Speaker 2>military and police, officers, which I thought was crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I actually walked away from my job. I actually

452
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<v Speaker 4>not entirely. We closed down after the closed down. We

453
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<v Speaker 4>shut down and it didn't hurt me a lot. However,

454
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<v Speaker 4>I walked away from Boston because at that time, the

455
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<v Speaker 4>passport UH was going on where if you weren't vaccinated,

456
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<v Speaker 4>you couldn't even go into a restaurant. And I thought

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<v Speaker 4>that was just bizarre that that would happen in the

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<v Speaker 4>United States. And I just I really hope that it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't happen again.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think we're at that point. I don't

461
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<v Speaker 2>think we're at that point. I'm not suggesting we are,

462
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<v Speaker 2>but I am suggesting that I see some signs I

463
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<v Speaker 2>use the word vectors, that that are pointing towards maybe

464
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<v Speaker 2>an uptake is coming at us. That's all I hope

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>I suggest that you know elderberry syrup, you make it homemade,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's wonderful, and you know, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>ways too. I mean, it is winter and when you know.

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<v Speaker 2>When do you make elderberry syrup? I've heard the name,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have no idea how you would make that.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make?

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<v Speaker 4>It's pretty easy it's you get buy some dry elderberry seeds,

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<v Speaker 4>and I would suggest looking it up. I follow the

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<v Speaker 4>recipe on wellness Mama.

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<v Speaker 8>I like.

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<v Speaker 4>Honey at cinnamon and nutmeg, and I think garlic, and

477
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<v Speaker 4>that's about it. And it's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no whiskey in there.

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<v Speaker 7>Any whiskey in there in my theology of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure they did that in the old days.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, Lee, and thank you, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>that piece of advice. That's very helpful. Possibly, okay, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you much, welcome you. So let me get let's see

484
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<v Speaker 2>if George's line has got cleaned up. George, go right ahead.

485
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<v Speaker 2>Hope your line is cleaned up.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think it's cleaned up. I took it off

487
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<v Speaker 8>Wi Fi, put her on data T mobile taught me

488
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<v Speaker 8>that so much better.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah. I did get COVID the day you left for Ireland.

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<v Speaker 8>That was I think the seventeenth or something. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a year ago, year ago, this year right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Ireland a year ago, you're absolutely.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, yeah, yeah, And I took FLA plaque's lovered and

495
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:44.960
<v Speaker 8>I just felt like I had the sniffles. So it

496
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<v Speaker 8>was excellent drug. But the reason why I called is

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<v Speaker 8>the VA told me last year they I always get

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<v Speaker 8>the flu shot because I had the pandemic flu of

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<v Speaker 8>nineteen sixty eight, sixty nine, skip seventy and came back

500
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<v Speaker 8>in seventy one. I was on my back for thirty days,

501
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<v Speaker 8>so I always get the flu shot. But the VA

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<v Speaker 8>told me, the VA told me this, damn and their

503
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 8>doctor is not nurses. I'm married to a nurse and

504
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<v Speaker 8>she thinks she's a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Nurse is often better than doctors. But we'll let we'll

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<v Speaker 2>let that go for another night.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll go by that. But

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<v Speaker 8>what the nurse told me at the VA is, look,

509
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<v Speaker 8>you're probably gonna have to get the covid shot every year,

510
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<v Speaker 8>every single year, just like you get the flu shot.

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<v Speaker 8>You'll come in put a flu shot like you do

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<v Speaker 8>on because I go to the VIA almost every month.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought they were going to have I thought

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to have combined flu and regular flu

515
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<v Speaker 2>and then a COVID shot like a one one injection shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And someone told me that they have not quite been

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<v Speaker 2>able to manufacture that or master the manufacturer of that yet.

518
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<v Speaker 8>So it's yeah, you're yeah, you you stole my thunder.

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<v Speaker 8>I think they're working on it, but uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure in the future we're probably going to you

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<v Speaker 8>like to get the flu shot every year I do

522
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<v Speaker 8>what's probably one day going to be combined. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 8>Fizer and the rest of them are working on it.

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<v Speaker 8>But that's what the VA and the nurse told me

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<v Speaker 8>that she's I said, where do you get that information from?

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<v Speaker 8>She says, I talked to several doctors and it looks

527
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<v Speaker 8>like he's going to be needing the COVID shot year

528
00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.960
<v Speaker 8>after year. I don't know if you know it, but

529
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 8>there's two new variances out that are very contagious this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is called it? I think it's called KP

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<v Speaker 2>one K two and KP's yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you keep up on this.

533
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have to keep up on this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my job, George, I know.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, all right. I just wanted to give out that

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<v Speaker 8>in me.

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<v Speaker 2>Do be your favor when next time you call, keep

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<v Speaker 2>it right here, get off the Wi Fi and whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>This this was a really good connection and a good call.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh great, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, George. Let me get Elizabeth from Tennessee. In

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<v Speaker 2>here real quickly before the break. Elizabeth, I know you've

544
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>never called from Tennessee. How are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 9>I'm pretty good.

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<v Speaker 10>I second to Elderberry because it does really work even

547
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 10>if you have the common cold symptoms. I don't make

548
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<v Speaker 10>it myself, but I get the organic from the supermarket

549
00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:36.119
<v Speaker 10>or the pharmacy and it works just as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Where about Tennessee are you calling from.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm in Knoxville.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, that's the.

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<v Speaker 10>Home of Bostonian. I'm a Bostonian. I listened to this

554
00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:51.160
<v Speaker 10>program religiously, but I'm on I work in Knoxville, but

555
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<v Speaker 10>I'm from Boston. Grew up in Boston all my life

556
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<v Speaker 10>in Dorchester.

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<v Speaker 2>What brought you in Dochester? What brought you to Knoxville.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I, like I said, it was work the University

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<v Speaker 10>of Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I'll tell you. I have a friend of

561
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.079
<v Speaker 2>mine who I made a friend with this summer, who

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<v Speaker 2>teaches in the journalism department at the University of Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm in agriculture and this university is huge. But

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<v Speaker 10>like I said, listen, they mandated vaccines at the university.

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<v Speaker 10>But I don't take vaccines because let me tell you

567
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<v Speaker 10>from the time I was a kid, I went to

568
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<v Speaker 10>school in Lincoln, Massachusetts, and when they gave us a

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<v Speaker 10>German measles shot, I got the German measles. When they

570
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<v Speaker 10>gave us a regular measle shot, I got the measles.

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<v Speaker 10>So I mean, it just went against my body because

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<v Speaker 10>you know, when they inject you, they're injecting you with

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<v Speaker 10>the flu.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, because that is what creates the indo body.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, well, let me tell you something. Everybody that gets

576
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<v Speaker 10>the flu shot now they get sick with the flu,

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<v Speaker 10>and you know what, it's a different strain of the flu.

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<v Speaker 10>So ever year they come up with a different strain.

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<v Speaker 10>It doesn't make any sense to me. I think that

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<v Speaker 10>your body has a natural way of fighting off things.

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<v Speaker 10>And like the other gentleman said, listen, fresh ear, sunshine,

582
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 10>take your herbs, fight that air nose throat. That's how

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<v Speaker 10>the virus enters your body through your ear nose and throat.

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<v Speaker 10>When I feel symptomatic, I put my face over a

585
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:27.359
<v Speaker 10>pot of water and I steam and the symptoms disappear.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you advice.

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<v Speaker 10>I've been exposed to COVID over and over, but I've

588
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<v Speaker 10>never had it because I deal with the symptoms. Like

589
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 10>you said, deal with your symptoms and you eliminate it

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00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 10>out of your body. So I'm glad that people are

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00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 10>calling giving this advice which is non medical, because you

592
00:31:47.319 --> 00:31:49.240
<v Speaker 10>don't need the drugs. You don't need the drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I love you. This obviously is your first time calling,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've never heard from before. A big one of

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<v Speaker 2>a clause of Elizabeth. If you run into Professor brooks Clark, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going.

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<v Speaker 10>To look him up in the system tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks Clark right, he had been worked as a sports

599
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<v Speaker 2>writer for UH Sports Illustrated and now he's team at

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Tennessee. And I met him this summer.

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<v Speaker 2>I had some great conversations with him about journalism. UH

602
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<v Speaker 2>and he's uh, he's he's from a New England family,

603
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:26.039
<v Speaker 2>but he's he's teaching has taken him into the brooks

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<v Speaker 2>Clark c l A r K.

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<v Speaker 10>I will look him up and tell him.

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<v Speaker 2>You will listen into the show. Are you listening on

607
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<v Speaker 2>the radio on the internet?

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<v Speaker 10>I am on the I am on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me ask you, how did you find this.

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<v Speaker 10>Excellent nobody? I listened to this. I listened to this

611
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 10>radio station all the time because I need to keep

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00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 10>up with what's going on in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>In your hometown. Well, Elizabeth, come on back as often

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<v Speaker 2>as you. I really do appreciate it. I have a

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00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I have a good friend of mine who's a state senator,

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<v Speaker 2>uh in Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not in Knoxville. He's kind of, I think, on

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<v Speaker 2>the other end of the.

620
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<v Speaker 10>Probably in Nashville. A lot of them are in Nashville.

621
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<v Speaker 2>He's in Chattanooga.

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<v Speaker 10>Outside of he's in Chattanooga. Okay, all right, is that

623
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<v Speaker 10>close to you three hours three hour drive?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course down in Tennessee. That's right. His name

625
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 2>is Todd Gardner, So I do have some connections in Tennessee.

626
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<v Speaker 2>Love to hear from folks from different different folks around

627
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<v Speaker 2>the country. I'm looking forward to your second call.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, okay, thanks, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Elizabeth. That's a great call. Professor Brooks Clark look

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<v Speaker 2>him up. Thanks. Journalists, Yes, all right, gonna come right back.

631
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<v Speaker 2>I got Brenda and Winchester, I got Betty in the boat.

632
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I got Paul and Pa and Ed and Merrimack. I'm

633
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 2>going to try to get everybody in and then we

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<v Speaker 2>are I think, well, unless we're going to keep going

635
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<v Speaker 2>on that. We could do three hours in this if

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<v Speaker 2>you want, okay, and we can hold off on the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump assassin and what came out in court today. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>figure it out. We'll figure it out because we're a

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<v Speaker 2>family here on Nightside. Coming back on Nightside.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>We're rollings and let's go to Brenda in Winchester. Hi, Brenda,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you?

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<v Speaker 11>I'm good, dear, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great? We got packed lines here. Brenda, going

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<v Speaker 2>to try to tay a couple more right ahead.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, I stopped taking the flu shot and the COVID

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<v Speaker 11>shot last year because every year I was definitely ill

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<v Speaker 11>every single year. And then when I went to my

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<v Speaker 11>physical my doctor told me do not get the COVID shot.

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<v Speaker 11>And I said why and she said, just I'm doing

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<v Speaker 11>some research on what's in it, and she said, do

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<v Speaker 11>not take it unless I tell you to. So I

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<v Speaker 11>didn't take it last year and I didn't get sick.

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<v Speaker 11>I didn't get the flu. I've had the flu for

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<v Speaker 11>six years. I did not get the flu. I had

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<v Speaker 11>no problem. But the flu. The COVID shot gave me

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<v Speaker 11>really bad problems with my ears in dizziness awful, awful,

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<v Speaker 11>I'd wake up and I have no control that dizzeyness

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<v Speaker 11>is so bad. So right, Oh, yes, yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 11>know she said do not. She said, I've had more

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<v Speaker 11>people come in and tell me the same thing. They

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<v Speaker 11>never had any problem with dizziness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think again, it's I think it's everybody has

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<v Speaker 2>to make their own decisions.

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<v Speaker 11>I wear my mask after I'd want to stop wearing

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<v Speaker 11>my mask down at the drinks because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 11>of people around, and so it's the season to do.

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<v Speaker 11>And if I wear that constantly, I just I didn't

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<v Speaker 11>get sick at all, and I almost died two years ago,

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<v Speaker 11>and I have one of my lungs has been affected

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<v Speaker 11>and so yeah, and I you know, I don't and

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<v Speaker 11>I've got a terrible cough and I can't get rid

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<v Speaker 11>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, you continue to get stay healthy is what

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<v Speaker 2>I want you.

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<v Speaker 11>I am gonna stay healthy, believe me, I am. But

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<v Speaker 11>I mean it's it's okay if somebody else does it,

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, we're all free to. But I decided

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<v Speaker 11>when she said no flush, no, uh, COVID shot, I said, well,

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not going to take the flu shot. I want

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<v Speaker 11>to find out what's going to happen. And I have

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<v Speaker 11>not got sick once.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed. Okay, thanks, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Brenda, talk soon.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, all right, take care, talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Good night. Let me see I just get We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to take this into the next hour. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So for those of you who don't get on, I

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<v Speaker 2>will take it into the next hour. Trust me, ed

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<v Speaker 2>and merrimack ed. You've been on the longest. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, Hi, nice to talk to you again. Dan. I

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<v Speaker 9>haven't talked to you in a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, I'm back, more off and go ahead. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, if I listened to you, you piqued my interest.

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<v Speaker 9>I won't get myself in trouble because I don't tell

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<v Speaker 9>anyone what to do. But I'm seven and I have

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<v Speaker 9>an environmental illness from exposure to chemicals in the school

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<v Speaker 9>that happened to me many years ago in Florida. So

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<v Speaker 9>I'm an asthmatic and I have to unfortunately take medications,

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<v Speaker 9>but i'd stay pretty well. But my observation is this,

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<v Speaker 9>especially in Massachusetts. If you take a car ride to

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<v Speaker 9>Connecticut or New Hampshire, they at least offer a lot

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<v Speaker 9>more places to go and use the facilities and wash

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<v Speaker 9>your hands. In Massachusetts, some of the places that you

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<v Speaker 9>travel to, there's no place to really get clean. And

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<v Speaker 9>just because I had been a nurse a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 9>I kind of watch and see what people do, and

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<v Speaker 9>I'd say a lot of people are not washing their hands.

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<v Speaker 9>They touch the dirty faucets after they think they wash

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<v Speaker 9>their hands, and you know, sometimes that stuff. It's a

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<v Speaker 9>simple thing, you know, And most people have a cell phone.

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<v Speaker 9>I wonder how often people will wipe their cell phone

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<v Speaker 9>with its obviously, and even you're steering, even your steering wheel,

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<v Speaker 9>or when you come home from the grocery store, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>wash your hands because you've been out with everybody in

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<v Speaker 9>the world. But the one thing I would say, I

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<v Speaker 9>would say this, I have not had COVID. I went

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<v Speaker 9>to my vacation home during the height of the pandemic

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<v Speaker 9>and I stayed there by myself, which most people can't do.

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<v Speaker 9>So I'm not telling people.

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<v Speaker 3>What to do.

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<v Speaker 9>I did it for myself because if I got sick,

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<v Speaker 9>my doctor told me I could die. Before the pandemic hit.

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<v Speaker 9>I even though I get the flu shot every year,

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<v Speaker 9>one year I got influenza A and I was deathly sick,

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<v Speaker 9>and then my housemate got it because the air and

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<v Speaker 9>the house recirculates. But I would say this, if you've

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<v Speaker 9>ever gone to an emergency room and you've had to

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<v Speaker 9>sit there for six to eight hours, and the whole

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<v Speaker 9>society was dealing with this, The whole world was dealing

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<v Speaker 9>with this. I think the emphasis on getting the show

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<v Speaker 9>was they were hoping that it was the best thing

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<v Speaker 9>for most people. And when you talk about people in

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<v Speaker 9>public life who provide services, if they're coming to you

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<v Speaker 9>to help you, you don't want them to bring the

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<v Speaker 9>COVID to you. So in some way I think as

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<v Speaker 9>a as a general societal thing, I think there was

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<v Speaker 9>that kind of emphasis.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they would look over what they called at

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<v Speaker 2>the time herd immunity.

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<v Speaker 9>Or like yeah, or like how do we how do

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<v Speaker 9>we take care of everybody? What if nobody got the

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<v Speaker 9>shots and everybody got definitely sick and docking.

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<v Speaker 10>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>The eleven but rob is in my ear. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>For the nice to talk. Everybody, wash, wash your hand, call.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what your mother told you. Call more often. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I thank you. I'd write calls tonight. Thanks. Thanks ed Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're here, Betty on the boat, Joe and Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Paul in Pennsylvania were sticking with you. We'll stick with

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<v Speaker 2>the topic. If we have to, We'll take it all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to midnight, coming back on nightside