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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to a trast

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told you, the final Trashold You of twenty twenty five. Officially,

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we are a few hours away from New Year's There's

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is there, no, no, no, Well, I guess there's probably

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some people already in twenty twenty six. If you are, congratulations,

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I hope you have a great year. Hope you have

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a good year last year. And if you didn't, whatever,

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you're gonna have a great year this year. Are we

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gonna have a great time time about Stranger Things? Who knows?

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But we are here so obviously in the past few

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weeks I've been reviewing Stranger Things. I caught up on it.

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You kind of know my thoughts and as usual, if

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this is your first time tuning into the channel, I

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did get to see it in the theaters, which was

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we'll get there right. But if this is your first time,

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I'm going to give about ten minutes downspoys. So if

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you're seeing the theaters later on, if you're seeing Larylond

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this weekn wait for people. I'll give out my overall

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thoughts on you know, likes dislikes, Where ranks did they

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land the plane? Was it successful? We will see we

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will talk about that and everything, but we will do

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all that about Tennis Mith's non spoils and then I'll

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give a break. I'll give you a warning so you

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get right into it, and then we'll go full into

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spoilers and talk about the the ending of this which

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has started nine years ago, which is crazy. But let

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me just share this. I let people know we're live,

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but yeah, I hope everyone's having a good New Year's Eve.

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If you're anyone in a live chat, you can let

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me know your thoughts. I don't know if I'll be

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able to get to them all, so if you want

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something really read, you can send a super chat. But

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I don't know. I'm kind of like on our time

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limit because after the second I go do some New

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Year's festivities and whatnot. So I hope again everyone's having

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a good time. But yeah, it is here after nine years,

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which is crazy. I remember the first time seeing this preview,

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I mean like, oh, I can't wait to see that,

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and then here we are, you know, almost a decade later,

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which a lot of people been like, oh the kids

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are sold now yet that but that's never really worried

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about for me. But so I got to see this

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in the theaters, luckily because at first we were getting them,

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and then we did get that, and I got a

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complete full crowd. I don't I don't think there was

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a single seat empty. I'd have to think about. I

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don't think there was a single seat empty, I will

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say before I get to my thoughts. It was the

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closest to I'd say, because there was endgame. There was

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no way home. But I think this was maybe the

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closest I felt to being back at end games. There

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was cheering, there's wood and haulering, and other than at

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the beginning when the Stranger Thing logo popped up, there's

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a couple of flashes that, uh oh, just gonna be

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a bad crawds. There's gonna be lots of phones or chatter. No,

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it was I'd say ninety five percent good crowd. Maybe

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if someone talking a bit too loud, but it was fine.

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I get it. People were hyped, and that's what's great

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because obviously sometimes movie theaters people kind of disrespect the

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cinema nowadays. It was great that people were there. They

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were locked in and it was a phenomenal fun time.

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cheered or people are cheering laughing, it was. It was

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a great time for a theatrical experience. So if you're

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even thinking about this, because I know it's on near's day,

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if you're even thinking about should I go, if it's

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near you and you're a big fan of this show,

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then I would recommend it. My overall thoughts of the show,

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I've loved the show. I've every season is like at

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least the nine may there may be an eight point

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five of season two, but multiple ten to ten episodes.

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I've always said that those first four have been if

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they were to stick the landing with this be one

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of the greatest shows of all time? Do I feel

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that way? Can I say, did we get a Game

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of Throne situation? Because as we talked about on Tress

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last season, we could judge them all together right as

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far as okay, we watch it too to from A

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to B and we could right away know how we feel. Right,

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one the three. Obviously, lots of memes going on, lots

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of pushback, lots of blowback, some of it warranted, some

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it's really there? But obviously it comes down to opinion.

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you can you can have a rocky road, but if

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you can land the plane after some turbulence, it's okay.

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rock wrestume in nineteen when he says Act one, Act

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two he was match with Stone Cold because he lost

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the first match and second match of Stone Cold Cold,

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two they don't matter. It's all about Act three. They

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climb act the finale, the ending, and honestly they two him.

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of the season so far, it's never been terrible. Right,

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we had. I won't say a lot of turbulence, but

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a few turbulence where okay, we could be in for

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a crash landing or a very damage plane. But you

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know what, In my opinion, this was a fucking fantastic finale. Granted,

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but to me it feels similar to Endgame or The

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Dark Knight Rises, where Dark Knight Rises. I love that movie,

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but I can see its fault. I don't think the

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season as a whole is perfect. Honestly. I think there's

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something in this episode that helped the last three's things

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that I would, oh, you know, that could be an

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issue that missed the mark on that it happened here, right.

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goes on. Now that we got the whole kid kaboodle,

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the whole show, the whole season, I can still finally

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easily say that strange things to me, just a personal thing.

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is a top ten TV, especially the scope of this,

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this finale is something that even if you end up

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hating it, I think you could admit that there is

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big action set pieces that you go, man, I'm very

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happy I'm seeing in the theaters. I think we have

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that all the time, right with streaming shows or movies.

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massive theater room. Most I'm like, oh, if you love theaters,

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I wish I could saw this, right, So that's another recommendation.

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it on the biggest screen you can, which is the

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theaters obviously, right. So that delivered big set pieces of

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action pieces that delivered. It delivered a lot on I

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feel like this is kind of like what we speculated.

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and an hour two something else. Right, not a big

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twist or anything like that, just like in kind of

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the vibes I got going on, right, I feel like

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other than a few characters, I think they just absolutely

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forgot about, like completely entirely. And that's that's okay. They're

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not characters I really cared about. But I'll get that

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question there b why Mars says, do you feel like

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it was rushed? And that's where I was gonna say.

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pacing of it. I was worried last week. I was

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worried it was gonna be rushed because someone said, oh, well,

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they got two hours, and I said, like, yeah, but

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lots of that's gonna be action, and lots of it was,

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but they took a lot of time in between action

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beats to do that, and I feel like they kind

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of had action throughout, but it was more like, hey,

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we're gonna build to one big actioning. When we get there,

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it's action. It's a fucking video game final boss battle.

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then done, you know. So for me, that's where I

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would push back. I did not feel like it was sure.

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probably still have to have, there's massive things going on.

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going on. So I was happy with that because it

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also there is a big fight, but you kind of

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take some time to get there, right. I feel like

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I said all the character moments worked for me for

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the most part. Maybe as I talk about them, there'll

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be something that stands out, but for me, they there's

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nothing that if we get to son that didn't work.

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a big nag of like, oh that really didn't work. No,

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starting to tear up a little bit. They did the

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right and out, like right amount enough of showing you

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stuff in the past and then present day stuff. It's

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not like Mission BOP's Reckoning where it's like this is

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because I watched it all leading up to it, But

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many people haven't, right. So for me, I was I

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was satisfied with it all. And that's the best way

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but the landing, we landed the fucking plane and that's

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all that matters, right for the most part, Right, because

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episodes that I'd say, Okay, it's kind of irrep like irrepaarable, right.

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was underwhelmed those last few episodes. But this to me

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was practically a home run. If it wasn't a home run,

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I don't know if it's I don't know if it's

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going to like then it's like they got to third

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and then got to home right after, you know. But

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I was satisfied with it, right, and again, it could

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be and as we talk, it could be that there's

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this a lot this week. I love the first hour Endgame,

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where a lot of people don't why because I love

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the heroes being depressed and we're going through the shit

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and it's sad. I'm not saying that's this, but sometimes

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there is a level of melancholy or solemn or you know,

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sad emotions here that are going on, and it kind

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of a full circle, very retrospective, which of course nine

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years has to be. But no, I I was happy.

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people will dog it because I can't see this all

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the time on other projects, the Return of the King,

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there's too many endings. For me, I never feel a

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Return the King. I could take more endings. Give me

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another ending with leg Listen, Gimli, give me another ending

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with al Ron. You know, there's an ad that this

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ad is ruining my Stranger Things background, my ambience there,

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but for me, it does have that. But these are

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characters we've grown in love with and we've loved for

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all these years. So I'm down to see all the

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different endings and all where these characters ended up after

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the fact because we've been on this journey. So I

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because to me, there's sometimes where movies or TV shows

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end and there's so much left. There's too much. Because

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characters and where they are and where their lives are going.

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my top ten show ratings. I don't think I put

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it there this year because like I just didn't see

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the ending of it right. But no, I think they

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full spoilers, so this is your last chance. I don't

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want to hear any bitchin and moaning and whining. Uh.

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are back. Okay, So a few comments, so we're gonna

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be all over. Usually if I got someone else with me,

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I can kind of throw to it. Not it's just me,

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so it's gonna be a big stream. Of what I'll

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probably do is after I address some comments here, I'll

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probably get the character lists and just make sure I

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hit on everybody and talk about their stories. Uh. And

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even then the check and guy me a little bit here,

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but uh, Champions Go says, I'm satisfied, but there's still

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many holes to be filled on their other projects. Maybe

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I guess for me again, what I because I don't

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know if I'm gonna watch those spinoffs. What I care

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about is the character stuff, And to me, none of

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the holes were with our main characters. We know roughly

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where they're going, right, They kind of even like showed

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like what their jobs are gonna be, Like we know

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where they're going, we know their lives are finally gonna

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be happy. That's all I needed. And again I can

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see if someone's some people are mad about this. It

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depends the type of viewer or watch who you are.

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From the get go, I wanted all these fucking kids

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to survive. And guess what, all these fucking kids survived,

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and that's what I wanted. You know, sometimes the good

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guy's gotta fucking win. We'll talk about the eleven stuff

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because obviously they leave that Kanye ambiguous. To me, it's

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not really ambiguous, but like you can't choose that if

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you want. And I'm there's that's where it's like, how

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that was done. That's a big stretch, Like I guess

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I could just say it now right with they do

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a death fake out right, and well, if you've seen

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the show, you know what you just watch, So I'm

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not gonna break it. Scene by scene, but they do

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have a death fake out because uh, Collie or sister,

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she gets shot and she said, hey, my story this

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was to end here, but yours doesn't, right, and we

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just assume she's dead. But what they actually do is,

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while they're kind of sneaking after they be Vetna and

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they're getting through the upside down all the stuff that

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she put some you know, they call it an invisibility curse.

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She's making everybody see Eleven go and sacrifice herself. Mike

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eventually figures out, hey, all those like power detractor things

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were on Eleven. Couldn't have done that. They must've did

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it so Eleven could escape. It's to me much like

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The Dark Knight Rises with the bomb when Batman has

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a nuke and he's driving the Middle Ocean. How the

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fuck does he get out of there? How does he

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end up in Spain or Venezuela wherever with Catwoman and

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their banging. We don't really know, you know, it doesn't

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make it like it's now, that doesn't make sense. It's

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just like there's a lot that has to go right

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for Eleven to escape and be alive. Right, Even that

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girl when she got shot, what if she died, what

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if she died mid whatever, and then they don't get

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to do this like fake out cursing or whatnot. Right,

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So there's a lot stuff, But for me, I'm okay

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with doing some stretching if it gets me the happy ending,

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because I was in the situation and I did think

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they were gonna kill her. But I've said this since

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the beginning. I said, I don't think anyone's really gonna die,

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but I think Eleven's prime for the taken. I didn't

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really want that. I've said on this show the same

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speech that Happer gave her to me, this character has

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a fucking shitty life, and they literally have Hopper say like,

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you were born, your mother were taking aware, you were abused,

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you were scared. This this is listed everything that happened

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to her when they did that, though, because last episode

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they did Cali being like you gotta sacrifice yourself, and

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to me like, okay, I think Eleven's good. They're telegraphing

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it too much. Right when they did the reverse telegraph

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of you deserve to live, I'm like, ah fuck. But

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luckily to me that is a two for one them

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like him telling Eleven like you do you do deserve

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these good things. You deserve a life even though your

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hand the shit deal. So it's to wake that character up.

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But also, like the show of last week, a lot

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of people memed on it but still will coming out

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was a good thing. That is an allegory. That speech

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to me as an allegory for suicide and not take

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your life right if like you're like the Hopper says,

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like there's so much dark and there's so much bad,

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but if you can get through and get through the

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other side, and he kind of does it with Mike too, right,

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like there is a chance after the darkness, right, And

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I think that's a good message to me. Where I

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get it's the the eat your cake and eat it too,

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where Okay, she has to kill herself so her friends

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and family can be safe, but you don't also have

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love and kill herself, right like me personally didn't want

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and obviously the friends and Hopper, So this is the

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double edged like perfect sword, I guess, not double ed

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swords because it's a bad thing, you know. To me,

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it's like she sacrifices herself to go live a life.

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She can't beat the people she loves right now, but

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they get to live a life and then she gets

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to go actually be out there and her friends are safe.

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It's the It's the perfect type of ending for me.

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And that's where someone like more uh mortar uh mortar gown.

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I think that's how I said, uh said, I think

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she died by like the left ambiguous exactly because to me,

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you can think that she died and I can think

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she lived, and that's perfect. I think there's some ambiguous endings,

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especially this year, some movies have been like way too

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like left way too much open, where it's like, okay,

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you're not even telling the story. Now, you're making me

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tell all the story. And to me, it's been the

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ones that haven't done that ending type of right right.

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So to me, I like that we went that route

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with eleven. We got the moment with my kids. To me,

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it would have been a little weird to do the

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whole big scene where they cry and love you and

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then she's just back right like it would have felt

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awkward to me. It's like you kind of committed to

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the death. Anytime she was gonna walk down a D

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and D or be the graduations like kay, this was

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just a cop out for us for half an hour

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and fourty five minutes. I think she's dead and be

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sad where this week can still be sad, right because

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she didn't get to be with her friends and be

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with Hopper as of right now, there's gonna be no

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matter what, even if she sees them lost time, but

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she gets to be alive and maybe have it for

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ending and stuff like that. Right, So, to me, I

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was very happy with I can see people if they

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are wining death, I get that, but I feel like

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the Duffers try to if you fall online stuff. They

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tried to brief you by saying like, hey, we're not

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Game of Thrones, We're not doing the Red Wedding, and

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I'm I'm happy about that. I think obviously there could

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be a bounce, right like look at Endgame Man Game,

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we lose lots of characters, but then look at Fellowship

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of the Ring we lose one Bormir. You know. I

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I think it's always dependent on each store, and even

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Game of Thrones, I think sometimes those deaths hurt the

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show actively. Even the final season hurt the show, right,

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So it's never perfect. And I'm saying this finale was perfect,

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this final season was perfect. I'm not sure where rank

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and I'll give a number at the end there. But

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let me go back a little bit here. Uh yeah, Bby,

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you said you felt the fight scene with Vecna was short.

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I guess I was fine that because to me was granted.

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I think you're right where the whole fight maybe is shorter,

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but it's like the cave, to the running up to

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the reveals to the like Vecna, you know, in the cave,

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having his little moments there, having his conversation with Henry.

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It to me was like the reason it was a fights.

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The fight was streaming, sure, but why I don't think

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it was short is because Vecna's also in like the

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mental fight the sphere, right, So to mean there was

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like the physical fighting and the mental fight. It felt

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like a worthy boss battle. To me, I do love that.

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It's it's just so funny when I'd say season one,

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season two, it depart right, got more sci fi, But

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the first two seasons also lots of Spilberger Spilberger Spilberg isms.

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We're in there right, like et God, close Counters with

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the third kind, just that ambulance feel the eighties, right.

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But then the other thing people talked about because now

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I feel like it transitioned into sci fi and alien

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they got in a nightmare ELM street Ball. Lat Peel

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talked about, hey, this steals a lot like it and

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Stephen King Primeer right, but it so was so fucking

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funny because I remember in our discord joining a discord

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way to listen. And then the discord. Right we're telling

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the discord I think s pub share this where the

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finatal like lots of people are getting screenshots and look

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like a dragon of some sort. Right, So there was

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this theory of oh, Vecna's going to turn into something bigger,

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so I gotta take down this banner here by thing. Well,

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actually I'll keep up because yeah, I'm planning just to

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keep this about an hour because I got new yar

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stuff to do. Probably tell us more of the guy.

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So there you go. Like I said, I'll try and

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get to all the comments, but near the end if

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I'm not, if you really want something red, uh, send

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a super chat because obviously it's Uh it's a busy stream.

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And thank you to everybody tuning in right now. There's

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a lot of you in the room. When Vecna is everything,

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they're coming out of the ground, all stuff's going on,

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and also he had seen the whole thing looking spider like,

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but when he turned into an actual fucking spider, and

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all the comparisons, and especially because for decades it's always

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been like, oh, it's great until the ending and he

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turns into fucking spider, right, Like why is Pennywise a spider?

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Like even Stephen King in the movie be like, why'd

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you make it a spy? Like he says something where

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the ending sector whatnot? Right, like it it's funny that

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it did turn that. To me, this was the better

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version of it because I think what they did, and

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that's what it chapter two did. They're smart enough. Hey,

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you got a big, bad spider, but then you also

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got Vecna, the character in the middle of the vessel, right,

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that's super smart. And also you got to have every

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fucking buddy fight. You got to have Joyce in there

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with the acts. You got to have them on the end,

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like taking the hell points out, you had to Nancy

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in her full and badass moment of shooting with the

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fucking grenades and the machine gun, like all this stuff.

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To me, it was great because there's many times where

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it's just like they even say like, oh, things were easier,

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like and see before, like it was easier when we

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had eleven, or she could always solve these problems. Of course,

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she's kind of like the teen captain, right, the quarterback,

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but it is the whole crew together, And that's what

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I loved about the final fight is, like he said,

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even Joyce, which I was a fan of, Like when

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they went to a lit rone, I'm like, oh my god,

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she's gonna get the killing blow and vecna. But when

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they were smartly showed the flashback, it's like from this

472
00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:37,599
like obviously to Henry stuff, but from our crew. She,

473
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,519
her and Will were really the first two infected, right

474
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,559
or like impacted. He got kidnapped and abducted and she

475
00:20:43,599 --> 00:20:46,759
became a mother in that first season. She's a very distraught,

476
00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,759
broken down character. Right, they have been through it the

477
00:20:49,799 --> 00:20:52,119
longest they've been through it, the most they've been through

478
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,559
the shit. And I could be wrong, but I don't

479
00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:56,200
think Joyce had ever gone the upside down. So for

480
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,240
her to be there and her final thing of you

481
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,559
fucked with the wrong family, and then it's like ten

482
00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:03,880
out of ten. No, No, to me, that was perfect,

483
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,759
Like who you get because Will to me, and that's

484
00:21:05,759 --> 00:21:07,599
where they all got a moment to get on VECNA.

485
00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:11,759
But I feel like the top three with eleven, Will

486
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,839
and Joyce, people that were really messed with, they got

487
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,240
moments to get back at DECNA and I love that. Also.

488
00:21:18,279 --> 00:21:20,559
I love that they introduced that again. They said they're

489
00:21:20,559 --> 00:21:23,200
gonna explain some stuff upside down. I think they over explained,

490
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,599
but that's fine. Ended up being okay, and they explained that, oh,

491
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,039
Henry found this thing the briefcase and it was a vessel,

492
00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,799
and they tried to do this whole Oh you are

493
00:21:31,839 --> 00:21:34,160
a vessel, just like Will was a vessel. Henry. It

494
00:21:34,279 --> 00:21:37,759
wasn't you. You're not the problem. And as this was happening,

495
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,720
I was like, ah, fuck, I don't want this. I

496
00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:42,799
don't want Vecna to do a baby face turn. I

497
00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:45,440
don't want to be like I was misunderstood. Think you

498
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,279
will and now I can rest easy. I liked that.

499
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,119
It's like, no, this thing needed me. I needed it

500
00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:53,359
pretty much. I'm a shit person, but I'm happy shit

501
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,720
person and let's fucking do this and then boom, whether

502
00:21:56,799 --> 00:21:59,559
that is over time he decided to do that, whether

503
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,079
what he's saying it's true whether he's just scared because

504
00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:04,640
he was crying, like, whether he's just scared that he's losing,

505
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,680
chose us, whatever it is. I liked that he did

506
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,200
not do a Bay for bayface turn. And I didn't

507
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,000
need like the whole crew of VECNA on the side

508
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,680
being like what do we do eleven? Like I was

509
00:22:13,759 --> 00:22:16,240
really worried because I love the trope of villains and

510
00:22:16,279 --> 00:22:18,519
heroes working together here. I did not need it. This

511
00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:20,319
guy's done so much here, I did not need it

512
00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:23,839
and not redeemable enough for me to get those things right.

513
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,440
So let me take a drink water. So I love that.

514
00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:32,079
And I think his name is what Jamie Campbell Bauer

515
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,400
or something like that I said before I liked him

516
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,799
in season four. He's been good this season. Shouted to

517
00:22:36,839 --> 00:22:39,480
him when they got to get into the cave, fucking

518
00:22:39,559 --> 00:22:41,880
he's acting as ass off here when he's reacting to

519
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,279
see him as old self kill a guy, and like

520
00:22:44,319 --> 00:22:46,079
the tear goes down his cheek and he feels it,

521
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,000
Like that's not like I know people sometimes discount, not

522
00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:50,680
discount acting, but just say, oh yeah, he's just crying.

523
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,079
He's just upset. To me, that idea of Okay, you're

524
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,000
reacting to a something that's happening in front of you,

525
00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:58,680
but then also a memory, and then it's also you're

526
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,319
reenacting at the same time. There's lots of stuff where

527
00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:03,880
many other actors, because I don't think everyone this shows great,

528
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,400
many other actors could make that scene cheesy or not play.

529
00:23:08,039 --> 00:23:10,960
And that's where it works where Vegna is this terrible person,

530
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,119
Henry's this terrible person, but in this moment you do

531
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,240
feel for him slightly right, and then he makes that

532
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,599
turn of no, I'm gonna still just fuck you guys up,

533
00:23:18,599 --> 00:23:20,920
and we're doing this right. But to me, his acting

534
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,279
that scene fantastic. I really hope because I feel like

535
00:23:24,279 --> 00:23:26,079
he has a different look, in a different vibe. I

536
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,599
really hope that he gets more work after this outside wherever.

537
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,079
I think season four showed he was a good actor,

538
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,759
and there's a couple of scenes that are great, but

539
00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:35,720
this I think he had a lot of versatility throughout,

540
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:38,079
but this finale he got to really shine. And you

541
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,519
do want that a villain. You want a villain to

542
00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:41,960
shine both menacely and acting wise, because then when you

543
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,240
take him down, it's that much better. So shut him.

544
00:23:44,279 --> 00:23:47,160
I thought like those cave scenes were really good and

545
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,440
just acted out standing. Le So let's see a couple

546
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,279
of things here. Morgan dun said, I liked it, but

547
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,079
my actums nations were extremely low after disappoint previous episodes

548
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,279
this season. Yeah, I so, I actually don't. So I

549
00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:03,519
think how I was. My expectations weren't lowered. I just

550
00:24:03,559 --> 00:24:06,480
got more worried. I still was expecting greatness from them.

551
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:11,400
But I thought these show, these show that we could

552
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,200
be like you, you can draw blood, if it bleeds it,

553
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:16,920
you can kill it, right, even in season two, which

554
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,079
I think is the lowest. I never anytime in these shows.

555
00:24:20,079 --> 00:24:21,759
I think ever thought, oh, this could be a failed

556
00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:23,759
season or a failed episode, Like I wouldn't fail last

557
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:26,200
week's episode. I know people might fail failed, but I

558
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,880
wouldn't like I know, it's like a four point whatever.

559
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,759
I mean, you'd be like, no to me, there are

560
00:24:29,799 --> 00:24:32,799
some clunkiness, some writing issues, but I would not go

561
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,880
that far, just like maybe could have been tighting up

562
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,039
a little bit better. Right, But uh yeah, and that's fair.

563
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,160
That's that's the that happened for you. So, uh, let's

564
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,839
see the only thing I think, uh, the only one

565
00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:45,759
I think should have died is Max in season four

566
00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:47,640
would have had much better impact and frankly the role

567
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,880
of the season have been filled by another character like

568
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,200
will my opinion, Yeah, I guess. But at the same time,

569
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,039
that's where it's the flip, right where I'm happy, Lucas happy,

570
00:24:57,079 --> 00:24:59,200
and I like their ending where they kind of say like, yeah,

571
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,160
you guys are gonna hap being settled down and be

572
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,440
in love like you love kids, like uh you know,

573
00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:05,400
I yeah, he said, the only one you think I

574
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,039
keep Maxim's mistake, Yeah, I yeah, I don't like and

575
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:10,359
that's fine, I have that opinion. I was happy with

576
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,640
them to be getting the any oh, that's what I

577
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,279
was gonna say, because it was almost non spoilers in

578
00:25:17,319 --> 00:25:20,039
that moment went Vecnu's peers and Joyce Scott's the action

579
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,839
she's going going. That actually teered me up because I

580
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,200
was getting choked up because there's characters like I never

581
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,079
cared about bar the same way that people did. But

582
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,559
when it's like with each hit it's showing the people

583
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:33,319
that have died, That's where I'm like, you could have

584
00:25:33,519 --> 00:25:36,440
terrible and bad things happen to our characters without having

585
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,680
to kill them, right, of course death happens in life,

586
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,759
but especially with some of these characters not saying, oh

587
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:43,599
fuck you Bob. Yeah, it sucks he died, right, but

588
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,559
that's what makes the journey better. And that's why when

589
00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:47,960
these characters survive, it showed other people around you can die.

590
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:50,880
We're lucky we made it out. And I when she

591
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,839
hit dead character hit it was to me, I'm getting

592
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,519
chills right now. I was like yeah, and that was

593
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,759
when I was happening. I was like, yeah, fuck, oh

594
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,880
good guys, you know, like that's that's the vibe that

595
00:25:59,920 --> 00:26:02,359
I sometimes don't get me wrong, that guy should win,

596
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,200
and I'm always following him with a downer ending. Go

597
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:06,559
fucking watch our first film we met here keepers, you know, like,

598
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240
I'm fine with a downer ending. But for me, with

599
00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,039
these characters, how long we needed them, and also with

600
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:14,359
them being kids and teenagers started their lives, is like

601
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:18,839
I for the most part wanted them to succeed. Right, So, uh,

602
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,039
let's see, he'd be a great joker. Yeah, sure, but

603
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,759
I don't know if they'd never go that ret. Well,

604
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,599
you know what, the guy that cast for Brainy as

605
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,799
not the biggest actor, right, so maybe this guy has

606
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:29,920
some cashet he would. He has a great look and

607
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,880
he has like very tall slenderness stuff. I don't think

608
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:36,759
they've really done that yet because jack was like, like

609
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:40,160
not a skinny guy, right, Heath had a lot of jackets.

610
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,000
He'th probably would been the closest, to be honest, but

611
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,039
I feel like because his attire, he fledger, looked bigger.

612
00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:48,279
And then Jerry Lettle got like ripped like an MMA fire,

613
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:50,400
which I didn't need. And I think Walking Things didn't

614
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,440
have like the full on hype, but we it would

615
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,599
be great to get like a full super tall, skinny

616
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,119
joker like in the comics. Right. But yeah, so we

617
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,640
get there and I guess I'm kind of talk of

618
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,279
the ending here they do that, and this is where

619
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,240
it was fine, but as I've told me before, I

620
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,160
don't need the military here, and now I know why

621
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,160
the military was in this season, and you know what,

622
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,440
it's Okay. Was I a little tired of military and

623
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,680
signed his villains? Yeah I was. But they want to

624
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,559
do this ending eleven where okay, we want to make

625
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,680
a sacrifice, but not the sacrifice, And that's where watching

626
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,640
this vitality at the times, like do I need the

627
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,720
military to be the villains again. Even the finale when

628
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,119
they go to like them watching the monogas' like ah,

629
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480
these fuckers, like they're just here at provide a side

630
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:32,960
quest to get us some more action and fight, you know.

631
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,799
And don't get wrong, not bad scenes. Characters got some

632
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,960
like whatever the I think his name is Murray right,

633
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,160
Like he got through the grenade and the chopper. That

634
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,680
was cool and all. And they heard eleven, so I

635
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,359
get that's why they were there. Is they wanted Vecna

636
00:27:45,759 --> 00:27:48,079
to die to eleven and all the kids, right. They

637
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:50,680
didn't want a situation where Vecna gets the upper hand

638
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,000
and takes eleven then the kids do it. So in

639
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,119
that aspect, I do I would retroactually go you know,

640
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,559
it's still my favorite, but and you know, little Hamilton

641
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,440
at least is great fun to watch. Should be this

642
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,559
villain or dark mage as they called her. But for

643
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,079
me now it made sense of Okay, if we got

644
00:28:05,079 --> 00:28:07,240
the military end here to get to this sacrifice instead

645
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,079
of death, I'll buy it. I'll take it. You know,

646
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,240
it's fine. It is what it is. And even like

647
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,880
Kylie dying, like that's what's a Yeah, that's a character

648
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,119
that can go a character that was like one episode

649
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,319
one season, and a couple here, you know, so those

650
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,559
are kind of the deaths I want. And before I

651
00:28:22,599 --> 00:28:25,119
forget it was strange a couple they showed me. I

652
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,440
can't remember if they had broken up. But like Dustin's

653
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,599
old girlfriend, she never came back, which was a surprised

654
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:35,240
even like Robin's girlfriend never like she just disappeared and

655
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,319
I can't I'm forgetting it now. But there's another character

656
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,279
that just disappear in the valley. Very odd. That's where

657
00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:42,200
you kind of go, you know what, that nurse character

658
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,839
couldn't have been in there, and you could have just

659
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,160
made Luca's sister that was wheeling Max around. Right. Kind

660
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,720
of odd, but the ending's there. They do the sacrifice

661
00:28:51,839 --> 00:28:54,079
army thing, blah blah blah. Somehow none of them are

662
00:28:54,079 --> 00:28:56,599
in prison. But that's okay, right, that always happened. The

663
00:28:56,599 --> 00:28:59,480
stranger things. They jump eighteen months later to their graduation,

664
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,160
which this is all good stuff, right. We get to

665
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,759
the older gang of people that they're hanging out, which

666
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:07,000
this is like a like, I don't know how old

667
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,359
people are, but this is a scene that even us

668
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,319
a geek us here when we did the GV ten

669
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,640
Day or Extra Life. I took for granted the times

670
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,759
that we used to podcast all together in the same room,

671
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:18,599
and then you know, Dylan move and nowadays with how

672
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,799
much we do, we couldn't be together, right, but now

673
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,720
we do those long streams or when we try to

674
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,039
do once a month and together. It is like when

675
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,480
they say, like, hey, once a month, because they established

676
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:31,079
that Nancy went to New York, but she left school,

677
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:32,920
which is like she wants to be, you know, out

678
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,640
there doing her own thing. Oh god, what's what's Jonathan's

679
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,799
just making weird films being an indie kid, cool Robins.

680
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:44,359
They didn't really say what Robin's up to. She came back

681
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,240
to DJ once and they didn't say what she's really

682
00:29:46,279 --> 00:29:48,279
up to. She's just somewhere else, like okay, that's fine.

683
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:50,359
But she was like a good emotional core in this episode.

684
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,480
And then Steve's just doing like the soon to be

685
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:54,640
dad thing. He's trying to find his wife. He's coaching

686
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,319
the baseball team with fucking Derek, like good stuff. They

687
00:29:58,359 --> 00:30:00,599
even jump to a point where like he's picking up

688
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,359
Dustin from college and they're hanging out. Yeah, all happy

689
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,039
of that, and that scene hit for me too, when

690
00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,119
it's just like you know, you get new friends, but

691
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,119
it never hits the same way as when we're together

692
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,799
and they like, hey, once a month, which is funny

693
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:12,680
because we said, like once a month we want to

694
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,000
try and podcasts in person when you know, when Dale's

695
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,839
in town or just the three of us, like we

696
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,359
want to try and do that. And that seems struggling

697
00:30:19,359 --> 00:30:21,599
me because there is those friends groups that no matter what,

698
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,880
whenever you see them, it's like it was exactly how

699
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,400
it was, and you do miss those times. Those times

700
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,839
go by fast. So anybody, if you're in school, college

701
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,000
or your roommates, there might be a time where you're

702
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,799
trying to think about your future life or and that's

703
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:36,160
saying I'm on a different adventure like they talk about here,

704
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,279
like I'm on a different venture now, where got the wife?

705
00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:40,559
The kids? That's great, but there's definitely the times where

706
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:42,359
I go, man, I didn't not that I miss and

707
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,359
regret like, oh I want to go back, just man,

708
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,480
in those moments, I should have appreciate us all going together.

709
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,519
I should appreciate it every day after working on Friday

710
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:51,359
that we'd meet up and podcast and be laughing everything.

711
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:55,319
The times were great, and I don't like it's not like, oh,

712
00:30:55,319 --> 00:30:57,039
I'm so solemn, but it's like, no, it's just like

713
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,200
appreciate the times when you have them. And I like

714
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:02,680
that even and Dustin's speech too, of like the bad

715
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:06,400
chaos and good chaos. Even through all these awful times,

716
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,519
there was good that happened. And I'm friends with people

717
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,160
that I shouldn't have never been friends with. Right. I've

718
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,559
told the story many times. I worked at Target and

719
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:15,680
they used to laugh as I as the guy that

720
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,000
would do my shift and on my lunch breaks, I'd

721
00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:20,119
go to and from with my earbuds in I had

722
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,319
enough friends, didn't want any more friends, and now these

723
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,799
three are three of my best friends. Right. And that's

724
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,240
where it was, where it's like we all have that.

725
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,799
So all that emotional stuff, the speeches all worked for me,

726
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,440
all good stuff. The stuff with Hopper abouts picking again,

727
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,599
I thought it was kind of almost on a suicide

728
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200
or depression rut, where it's like there's two roads. The

729
00:31:37,319 --> 00:31:40,039
road to happiness. It's gonna be dark and you're gonna

730
00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:43,079
lament on sometimes and there's gonna be hard times, but

731
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,759
you gotta fight and try and get there and do

732
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,519
whatever you can. You can accept that dark stuff, but

733
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:50,039
don't let it define you. Right. I'm definitely paraphrased. That's

734
00:31:50,079 --> 00:31:51,640
not the speech, but I think it was good to

735
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,480
bring them to right or bring it back to those

736
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:55,960
two because they're the closest with eleven as far as

737
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,559
Will being the love interesting boyfriend then Hopper being her dad.

738
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,799
So I thought that was good. Uh, Dustin doing his

739
00:32:01,839 --> 00:32:05,640
big speech, which was like sometimes it's like they do

740
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,799
the principal like me mugging really mad. That's a little

741
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,839
cheesying over the top, but you know what, Shanger Things

742
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,160
kind of does that multiple times. Right, They lean on

743
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,400
that eighty stuff. So maybe a little too much, but

744
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:17,839
you know what, it's fine. These characters have a good time.

745
00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:20,240
I love the moment when he's like I play this

746
00:32:20,279 --> 00:32:22,240
game called Dungeons Dragons, and the whole crowd cheers, and

747
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,160
then he will hop like Jesus Christ like, which they

748
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,400
stick with. And again I don't play Dungeons Dragon but

749
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,480
shout out to like the very final battle of Vecne

750
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,799
even they're like, oh, we could take off. I can't remember.

751
00:32:32,839 --> 00:32:35,000
There's like some health points they use, they say, and

752
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,279
it's for d and D and I think they also

753
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,200
use in video games, right, So it's like to the

754
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,839
very beginning to the end they're making D and D references.

755
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,680
So that's great. Uh, but yeah, Dustin pretty much just

756
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,200
makes like, ah, he's very happy to be a student.

757
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,799
He's had a great time, he's big learning. He makes

758
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:50,279
his friends speech. But then he's will still has the

759
00:32:50,359 --> 00:32:51,759
eddie and I'm like, you know what, and fuck the

760
00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,200
system too, because they set us up for failure. Sometimes

761
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,519
that's the way it's gonna be. And he throws his

762
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:58,759
middle finger and he has the hell Fire Live shirt

763
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:01,799
that confetti when he's down, and like, they had this

764
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:05,559
really beautiful looking girl up like hey, like great speech,

765
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,519
and she's like I want to go full blue shi

766
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,559
you know analysts, and she like what and she like

767
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,880
walks away and they're all like you fucking blew it man.

768
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,519
And then she comes back and so invites them to

769
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,799
the party. That's great stuff too, and great little moment

770
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:20,759
where Mike realizes what the sonics like. I like that.

771
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,319
I almost wish they didn't do a flashback. I wish

772
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,119
she just like heard the speakers and then showed those

773
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,440
like mute and whatever. Power tea power speakers and then

774
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:31,359
leave it there. But it felt like it kind of

775
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,799
to me revealed like Okay, she had like she's alive right,

776
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,880
And it's probably because, like I didn't know the whole

777
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,880
vision thing, but the case she couldn't use her powers,

778
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:40,279
so it had to be something else. I think they

779
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:43,480
could have pulled back on that, So we'll see. But

780
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:47,160
overall that was good. Joyce and Hopper, great scene of

781
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,680
them getting at the graduation. Before getting ready, Jonathan's taking

782
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,880
the video his light. He's getting fucked up and he's like,

783
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,279
it's not it's not the Godfather. You get one more take.

784
00:33:56,319 --> 00:33:58,440
Like he's back to being a grumpy old sheriff, but

785
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,920
he's at least happy and he's accepted everything. Him and

786
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,599
Joyce finally, I'm assuming, finally go to that restaurant that

787
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,880
they meant to go to in like season three. Uh,

788
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,079
they maybe have been there before, but still they're going here.

789
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,519
It's a big night, he proposes. She said, yes, they're

790
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:15,360
thinking about like moving and going and uh, let's see.

791
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,119
Kyler King says, uh, mostly love finale. I wish we

792
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,280
saw what happened to Vicki and more of the demo Gorgons.

793
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Who the who am I freaking is Vicky? There's so

794
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,039
many characters stranger things? Is that Robin's girlfriend? That's the

795
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:31,719
stranger thing that Yeah, Okay, I mentioned that already. It

796
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,119
was very odd. It was super odd that she was

797
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,760
just not around for someone that's been in two seasons

798
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,599
now at that point, as someone wants their characters survive,

799
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,000
maybe you could just kill her off as like a

800
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,880
like if she's not gonna be driving away with Robin

801
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,119
at the end. Like it just it was odd that

802
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,320
she took up so much screen time. Again, that's like, go, well,

803
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,840
that's where I could say, yeah, too many characters, right,

804
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,199
but yeah, Joyce and hoppagain and engage maybe moving. That's

805
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,599
great that that's a good ending and really great scene too,

806
00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,199
as far as as they established Mike is gonna be

807
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,559
they show Will at a bar. I thought they were

808
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:06,440
gonna have kiss the guy. I kind of wish they did,

809
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,199
but they're at a bar and a guy agreed. Some

810
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,800
of your kind of think that maybe it's someone could

811
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
be a boyfriend or something like that, right, uh. And

812
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,880
then they do this last scene where it's one last

813
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:22,559
D and D session all together and man, oh, boy. Sorry,

814
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:25,840
it took a little water there. I felt like you

815
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,280
could in my theater. You because I talked about this

816
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,360
with Emily, and then there's other people I talked about

817
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,360
with you. There was obviously a theory going around right

818
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,719
as far as what if the ending of this show.

819
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,079
It's all just it was one big D and D campaign,

820
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,199
And I said, am like that happens. I will give

821
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,440
this season a zero out of ten. I don't know

822
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,119
a little show. They'll give the zero a season zero ten.

823
00:35:46,159 --> 00:35:48,800
I don't want that. I don't. I'm not always opposed to.

824
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:51,559
It was a dream ending or a you know, very

825
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,719
crazy out there ending, a big twist, but with this

826
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,400
and how long it's been, that would have been such

827
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,480
a slap in the face. So when they went to

828
00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:00,760
that table and Mike is tell them the story, it

829
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,480
sounds very similar they're going through. You could feel people,

830
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:10,079
a few people shifting their chair, including myselfing like oh fuck, God, like,

831
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,239
don't don't make this like just this whole time these

832
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,360
people were friends telling the story right like that, there

833
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:18,760
was a worry, but no, that's when they Mike says

834
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,159
what he sees in the future and tells him his

835
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,519
theory about eleven again, it's a theory. I like to

836
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:26,079
think she's alive and a great moment where they all

837
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:28,920
put their book in, they're sad. His mom calls him

838
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,760
up who his mom and his dad survived. So I

839
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,119
met that's those are characters that I even said could

840
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,840
have died a couple episodes ago. So even myself was

841
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,800
like a god, good guys survive. I was even like,

842
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,920
h you can kill Mike's parents, That's fine. So I

843
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,360
imagine the crowd that really wanted people to die, like

844
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,199
fucking even the parents made it. Are you kidding me?

845
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,320
But you know, I was happy they hear some big scars.

846
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,800
She said, oh you're Then was cold, and they go

847
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,280
one by one they slide their books in, you know,

848
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,360
Will Mike, Lucas, Dustin, and then when Mike's walking up,

849
00:36:59,559 --> 00:37:01,880
his like shoulder checks and all her friends fall. I'm like, oh,

850
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,280
you took so long. And they sit down there and

851
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,960
play a D and D. They show that her and

852
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:07,400
Derek are friends. I don't know if they're like a couple.

853
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:08,920
She just kind of leaned her head on them, so

854
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,679
it was that's kind of more of like a loving gesture.

855
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,360
But that's great where I don't want to. I don't

856
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,840
think this show needs to spin off. I know they're

857
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,599
doing it. I don't need to spin off with these

858
00:37:16,639 --> 00:37:18,400
other characters. I don't cause I know there's people. When

859
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,840
we're leaving the you like, oh, is there end credits?

860
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,039
Like no, the same way it's like, we'll see what

861
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:26,079
happens with fucking Doomsday and secret Wars. But when endgame

862
00:37:26,159 --> 00:37:29,280
ending with no ending credits, like yeah, sometimes the ending

863
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,920
is the ending. There need to be more. And obviously

864
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,480
it's a whole in a situation because there's a universe

865
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:34,880
in war, but at that times like yep, right there,

866
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,639
stop it. Same thing. The combook covers everything that'd be

867
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,559
the ending. Cool, stop it right there. We don't need anymore.

868
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:42,039
And to me, it's just like I don't need to

869
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,360
think that these characters are gonna go off and fight

870
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,159
more Demogords or a new threat. No, it's just that

871
00:37:46,559 --> 00:37:49,679
they are carrying on the Hawkins tradition, Will Mike and

872
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,840
his friend's tradition. Like it's another you know, passing of

873
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,760
the torch type of moment. Right, So, for me, I

874
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,559
really liked that ending. I liked how some Ballock was

875
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:04,119
so yeah, I liked that. I liked all the endings

876
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,559
with everybody obviously, and I like, I really like Stephen

877
00:38:08,039 --> 00:38:10,679
Jonathan's got to come to Jesus. Moment they're talking like, yeah,

878
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,199
my problems I thought they were you, but I was

879
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,760
just using you as like an allegory of that, and

880
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:17,159
Jonathan being like, you know what I've I kind of know,

881
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:20,440
I kind of know I didn't really have a shot

882
00:38:20,519 --> 00:38:22,159
with there. And then he's like, and she also doesn't

883
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,599
want them, and that caought the theater big was the

884
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:29,760
whole don't say nuggets. Nuggets went also too. When Steve

885
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,400
fell and cut to black and then Jonathan caught him,

886
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:38,239
theater fucking erupted, not like Captain America catch a mill

887
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,280
in near sort of thing or the three Sparmen together,

888
00:38:40,679 --> 00:38:43,400
but like a couple actors below the thing. And I

889
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,559
was like, like, I was like, oh, good moment, but

890
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:47,280
I was like, oh, people are Maybe it's just Steve

891
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,079
being saved. I don't know if it's Jonathan save to Steve.

892
00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:50,599
I don't know if there's a ship between those two.

893
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,760
But it was a big moment that the crowd was rocking,

894
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,599
So uh, yeah, it was you know, and the good

895
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,239
The start was good. That was awesomely a lot more

896
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,519
of the action, a lot more the laying down the Okay,

897
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:05,360
it's eleven gunna sacrifice the herself if she's not pros

898
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,760
and cons. I'm trying to think there's anything big else

899
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,559
if because I get him near the end, if there's

900
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:11,239
any big moments I haven't talked about, or you want

901
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,679
me to touch upon, throw him out now really like

902
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,119
Vecna fucking with Hopper because that got me too. When

903
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,920
he goes there and he's showed him the vision, which

904
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,599
is great because he's loose, he's using the things that's

905
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:25,760
in Eleven's mind. Because that was a good sequence too,

906
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,360
where they go in there, they meet Max and like

907
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,559
whatever the dark places they're going through, all the memories,

908
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,159
there's that team time clock if we got thirty seconds,

909
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:34,880
the world's in a crash ons macs like just way,

910
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,960
I promise he's gonna show up. All of it goes

911
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,079
write well, and then what happens is to prove because

912
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:42,000
these kids think Henry's a good guy, right to proof

913
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:44,679
he's not. Let's show him attack Eleven, show me become

914
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,559
the monster. They run away. Eleven gets exposed, so he

915
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,400
can look at her memories and shows Hopper all this stuff, right,

916
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,920
that she's planning to sacrifice herself, all the stuff, which

917
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,840
also led to a very great speech later on where

918
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,599
it's just like, I understand like what you're saying here,

919
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,280
and I'll see this was the now she didn't actually

920
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,920
kill her so but she's just saying like, if I

921
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,159
have to do that, it's my choice. Like, you can't

922
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,320
keep comparing me to Sarah, even though you're my dad.

923
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,239
In a sense, Sarah didn't have a choice. I have

924
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,079
a choice. You have to respect that. And I like,

925
00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:13,760
from that point on, Hopper was like, Okay, I don't

926
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,079
want her to die. I wish that's not the outcome,

927
00:40:16,119 --> 00:40:19,480
but if she feels that's the best, then I have

928
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:21,639
to respect that. Because she she says, I'm not a

929
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,000
kid anymore, right, and that's why when everybody I know,

930
00:40:24,039 --> 00:40:26,440
they're still just graduating. But when everybody complains, oh, they

931
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,480
look so much older. Yes, do they look older than

932
00:40:29,559 --> 00:40:32,920
kids graduating. Sure, But for me, as a ninetiest kid,

933
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
we grew up with fucking thirty to forty year olds

934
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,000
playing teenagers. This is light years better than that, right,

935
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:40,920
as far as the ages and to me, it's like

936
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,920
Harry Potter when people say it's like that's you feel

937
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,039
when she says, I'm not a kid. You can believe

938
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:46,639
that because obviously in realize she's a pry and got

939
00:40:46,679 --> 00:40:48,719
a kid, but like in this show, she's grown up, right,

940
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,079
So those together worked really well and that kind of

941
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,159
back and forth as far as you know, earlier and

942
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,440
later on. Let me see if there's anything else there.

943
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,639
You don't work out some stuff that's fine, like he

944
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,239
was funny, you know, as usual. Yeah, I'm trying to

945
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,320
think there's anything more because they don't a talk about

946
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,880
get in the future. Probably the geeks. I don't like

947
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,239
what you even watch or anything. But I'm trying to

948
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,920
think of anything. But I'll go chat for a little

949
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,119
bit here. Kyler King says, I choose to believe that

950
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:19,440
eleven reunites with their friends and family one day. Me too.

951
00:41:19,559 --> 00:41:21,199
I think it's just like you let it blow down

952
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,840
and then you make content. I'm kind of in that

953
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,559
ending with you too. I like how the ending basically

954
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:27,679
that's use your imagination in the future where these characters go.

955
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,920
The show's all by imagination. Kids like kids be kids again. Yeah,

956
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,880
I agree, I was all to me, it was the

957
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,960
right and enough of being ambiguous, right, give you enough

958
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,880
to fill Like it's a pay coloring book with no color,

959
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,320
you can fill it in, but you don't know what

960
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,320
those colors are gonna be. But for me, the fact

961
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,880
that they're mostly gonna be happy going forward and get

962
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,440
to live lives good because after everything they've fucking been through,

963
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,000
they should get that they're just fucking kids, right, So

964
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,119
uh yeah, I'm trying to think. But and I'll say

965
00:41:56,199 --> 00:42:00,280
too Vecna and the Big Spider Cegi, why this is

966
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:01,880
where it's like on the big screen. You need to

967
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,360
see it look fantastic when their chaser look fantastic, eleven

968
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,000
jump in there look fantastic. The textures some locations not

969
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:12,039
as good. But I am fine with with Like if

970
00:42:12,039 --> 00:42:13,679
they're like, hey, we got a certain budget, we got

971
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,920
time limit, we're gonna make the backgrounds look good, or

972
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,320
the big fucking monster spider look good. What we're gonna pick,

973
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,840
we're picking that right, Or it's stuff like when Nancy's

974
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,079
running behind it inspired it looks a little iffy, right,

975
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:25,880
that stuff, But the actual design and look of it,

976
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:28,360
not saying it look like gall and realistic. But at

977
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,760
times it looked to me really like it looked like

978
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,360
there was times where it was seenless like, Okay, it

979
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,000
looks like it's actually there what you want, right, which

980
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,199
we've seen tons of CGI nowadays where that never happens,

981
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,800
or it looks it stands out right, moonnight Log, truck,

982
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:45,480
et cetera. So yeah, I'm trying to think. I thought

983
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,599
there was something in the memory spot. I was gonna say,

984
00:42:47,599 --> 00:42:50,480
I tumbled the cave. You know, Holly, any other friends.

985
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:53,599
All that cave stuff with the kids was good. Yeah,

986
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,320
oh right, That's why I meant to say, is when

987
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,559
they showed hop when hot Vegner appears the hopper and

988
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:01,920
Hopper shoots Vectna and it goes through the tank and

989
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,159
hits eleven. I did think she was shot. I don't

990
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:05,960
think she was dying there because all the same, but

991
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,800
I thought she was shot. I was questioned how many bulltholes,

992
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,679
like how she gonna survive this? By the well, this

993
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,159
show you never know, right, But I I that did

994
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,199
get me. I thought for sure she was shot. So

995
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,559
then when he broke the k the tank and she

996
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:21,719
comes out and she's fine, looked down, It's like, oh, Christ,

997
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,000
you know, like such a heart sinking moment. Off he

998
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:27,480
got us, He fucking got us. And that's where good again,

999
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:31,280
A good smart villain, right. So yeah, I'm trying to

1000
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,559
think if there's anything more, but I don't think so.

1001
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,519
So for me, what would I rank this? I feel

1002
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:39,719
for now where I'm gonna go. I will rewatch the

1003
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,079
season is again one day, and I'll watch the show

1004
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:43,800
game one day. I'm excited too with my kids because

1005
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,239
Gwen one time I saw one season when she was younger,

1006
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:48,360
and now she always wants to watch. But we're like, yeah,

1007
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,840
you saw a couple of stuff you weren't supposed to,

1008
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,159
you know, like you were in the room, and now

1009
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,199
she's interested because she likes that typefore stuff. So I

1010
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,280
will watch again. But for me, I think this season

1011
00:43:57,559 --> 00:43:59,880
is a nine. And this is where to me my

1012
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:04,239
rankings and critiques and all that stuff. If I've always

1013
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,920
said that, I get there's two scores, right, but the

1014
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,079
score I'd given on a letter box or reviews is

1015
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:11,440
my enjoyment of it. Right. You take all my averages,

1016
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,159
I would say season one and season four are a

1017
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,760
ten out of ten. I think season two is maybe

1018
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,239
like an eight point five to nine after things there,

1019
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,960
and then season three is a nine nine point five,

1020
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,880
and then this is like probably a nine, right, because

1021
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,320
I do think this ad maybe some of the lowest

1022
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,039
lows that the show has done sometimes from writing point

1023
00:44:28,039 --> 00:44:29,599
of view, and I could argue you could have had

1024
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:32,039
it going a little bit longer. That's one thing too.

1025
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:35,119
I meant to say last week when myself, a lot

1026
00:44:35,159 --> 00:44:36,760
of people are like, hey, Will does this big speech

1027
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,440
in him and Will are Mike doing it a fucking

1028
00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:40,719
moment like they're best friends. It's about him fall in love.

1029
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,440
Like that's odd because you thought them hugging like let's

1030
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,000
go to battle, that was it. But no, when they're

1031
00:44:45,039 --> 00:44:47,679
climbing the radio tower and they get that moment to

1032
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,239
actually talk and all that's so good of like he

1033
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,519
says like, oh, I didn't want to Like he's like,

1034
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:53,760
all that came out wrong, and so you know what

1035
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,800
I didn't mean like come out like that. That was fun,

1036
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,639
as said humor, and it did go like we'll start

1037
00:44:57,679 --> 00:44:59,840
talking about here comes a big speech, and it really was.

1038
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:02,519
It was right to the point and satisfying. All that

1039
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:05,239
type of banter going up the radio town walking for

1040
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,880
the most part, worked I thought there could have been

1041
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,960
a little more urgency to get to Vecna and like

1042
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:12,679
the abyss. But that's okay, Right, we are spending the

1043
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,639
time with these characters. We love them, so we wanna,

1044
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:17,679
you know, we want to experience them a little bit longer.

1045
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,039
But like, no one's like they're not even doing a

1046
00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:21,039
fast walk like it one way, when Robin has to

1047
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,320
be like, hey, love Bridge, you're starting to Stephen John

1048
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,480
than get over here, it's like, yeah, fuck man, Like

1049
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:28,599
guys like walk in now, you know, but I get it.

1050
00:45:28,639 --> 00:45:32,920
They're facing death. But that's where that episode last week is.

1051
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,039
It works a little better now, right, will come up

1052
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,920
for me, works a little bit better. So I'll see

1053
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,280
how it sits. And there's gonna be other points of

1054
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,760
people bring up where even like myself with that will

1055
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,159
speech when pre people brought like hey, people don't overtly

1056
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,079
know or even a Harmison know that Robin's gay, and

1057
00:45:46,119 --> 00:45:47,760
I said that as like, well there's another gay character

1058
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,920
in the group. Why is such a big idea that's

1059
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,320
what it's like or a big deal. I'm like, okay,

1060
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,559
that does help me like that speech more, right, even

1061
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:55,800
if I think the time is a little off, and

1062
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,159
I don't know if it's the best written, you know

1063
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,480
it works so for me, that's the thing where I

1064
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:03,840
have to watch the season again. But that's where so

1065
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:06,480
right now I'd give this a nine, and my final

1066
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:08,960
score for the show wouldn't make sense because my score

1067
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:10,960
is a ten. That doesn't make sense when I have

1068
00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:14,239
a ten, an eight point five, a nine point five,

1069
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:16,559
a ten, and a nine right on average. I'm not

1070
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:18,679
sure what that is someone could average out, but I'm

1071
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,840
still going that. Sure, there were some seasons that weren't

1072
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,559
a knockout. There was definitely in the season. As I

1073
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:26,400
said before, it's good we were ending. There was some

1074
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:29,480
repetition going on. But my enjoyment level as far as

1075
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:33,679
like the highs of this season were very very high.

1076
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:35,519
That's why I'd still put it above two. Had some

1077
00:46:35,599 --> 00:46:37,679
big hives, and especially it's the finale. To me, the

1078
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,679
finale is overall just very satisfying two hours of fuck yeah.

1079
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,880
I'm loving majority of this and they did a great

1080
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,400
job right And I think over time this will even

1081
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:49,119
feel better because it just sits with you and even

1082
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:50,679
the stuff you just like a little bit of ah,

1083
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,639
but this happened, and this happened as long as they

1084
00:46:52,639 --> 00:46:55,840
don't do like a fall right, but which they could

1085
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,119
one day. I could see in twenty fifteen years of

1086
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:00,519
new Igustranger things even just like move be right to

1087
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,639
get eleving back of the crew and some stuff happens.

1088
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,519
But uh yeah, for me, that's where I put the

1089
00:47:05,519 --> 00:47:07,320
shows a ten. I would put in a top ten.

1090
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,679
H loved it since the beginning, multiple great seasons, great

1091
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,559
performances of see some of them are kid actors, so

1092
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,000
some of them are better than others, but that's okay

1093
00:47:17,039 --> 00:47:19,840
with their kids, and so for me, I was very

1094
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,000
happy with the ending. I think, as I said before,

1095
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,639
we had a little tourblence. But that's all that matters

1096
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:26,679
if you can land the fucking plane, right. I've said

1097
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,679
that with what is it with doomsday coming up? For

1098
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,639
people that don't listen to my newscast, but to Avengers

1099
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:35,800
and the people that bring them back, it's on the storylines,

1100
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,320
and I go right now. For me, I'm in the Turblens.

1101
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,880
I'm not excited by a lot of the things they're doing,

1102
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:41,719
but if you can get in that theater and land

1103
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,840
the plane, you can at least make me happen to

1104
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,000
be okay. It was messy and I don't love everything.

1105
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,599
I didn't love the crackers on this flight. The toilet

1106
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,440
flush really loud, woke people up and will a baby

1107
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:53,960
but cried. But we landed and overall was a smooth

1108
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:56,280
ride and we're safe and we're onto our next trip.

1109
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,159
You know, I think that's where I am. You know so,

1110
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,719
and that's where Kyler King says. They don't think there

1111
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,880
was a bad season the show. Some are better than others,

1112
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,079
but they delivered, and that that's where I am. They

1113
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,039
that is the title of this strange because the landing

1114
00:48:10,039 --> 00:48:12,000
and the airplane that's a travesing. I'm gonna start this

1115
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,320
the same way Tras told you became a show. That's

1116
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,679
as saying for me. But the so I didn't want

1117
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:18,480
to put in that title. But my whole thing is

1118
00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:23,199
Stranger Thing series finale. Suppose if you did it deliver, Yes,

1119
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,800
it did, Thank you very much everyone that was in

1120
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,840
this massive audience watched. So thank you very much, Thank

1121
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,679
you everyone that listened. I don't know where it's gonna be,

1122
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,800
but already that Stranger Things episode from last week is

1123
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,639
in our top fourteen right now and it's only been

1124
00:48:36,679 --> 00:48:38,880
out for like less than a week, and I appreciate

1125
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,840
that very much, especially when it's just a sol cast

1126
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,239
of myself doing this. So let me know there is

1127
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,639
a Stranger Things channel. I was gonna say in our discord,

1128
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,599
I might do like a when Tras told you returns

1129
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,000
next week or whenever. I might do like a Redus,

1130
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:57,000
like if we got box Office news, anything about that,

1131
00:48:57,199 --> 00:48:59,320
and if it's something to point out, it's some theories

1132
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,760
with the creator think and even what you guys think,

1133
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,079
join our discord. There's a Stranger there's a whole like

1134
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:07,199
geek First channel, but then there's multiple other channels. Join

1135
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,960
Stranger Things and there's something you disagree with, agree with,

1136
00:49:10,039 --> 00:49:11,719
something you want to send us a question, something you

1137
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,199
want to push back on or just share more opinion on.

1138
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,719
Please join there. It's a fun community. I just thanked

1139
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,840
everyone in there today for the great year because I

1140
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:20,880
had the most fun on the internet there. Shout a

1141
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,320
Din for creating that. We got no assholes were We're inclusive.

1142
00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:29,119
We don't care what color you are, who you're fucking

1143
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:31,800
what you're doing. If you love video games, if you

1144
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,800
hate video games, you love movies, you love books, you

1145
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,119
hate movies you hate book like, whatever your geek kink is,

1146
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:40,360
per se, We're not there to judge. I fucking hate Pokemon.

1147
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,519
I don't get anybody likes it. We got a Pokemon

1148
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:44,719
channel for you there, right, and it's all funny games.

1149
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,920
I recommend joining there and conversating because it's a great time.

1150
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,159
It's sense of fun, and yeah, I'm excited to see

1151
00:49:50,199 --> 00:49:51,920
what everyone else thinks. And yeah, I'll probably do like

1152
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,480
a reducks after and maybe follow up and see. But

1153
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:57,199
for me, I was very happy with what you guys

1154
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,519
did for as far as listening to the show, and

1155
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:01,039
I was very happy with this, And yeah, I had

1156
00:50:01,079 --> 00:50:03,800
a fucking great time at the cinema. This was tons

1157
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,599
of fun. Out to the family. We had a fun time.

1158
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,679
It was great to be in a respectful, full crowd.

1159
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,599
That's what the movies are about, and that's what luckily

1160
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,000
the Stranger Things finale was about. Thank you very much, everybody.

1161
00:50:15,559 --> 00:50:18,400
If you're listening to Live, have a happy New Year's Eve,

1162
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,920
and if you're listening today, happy twenty twenty six. Let's

1163
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,280
have a great year, and I promise you it'll be

1164
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:24,480
more