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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. It's Tuesday. It's time for full

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Court Press. Rob. You know, it's five dollars Tuesday, And

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after troubleshooting all day yesterday, it does look like it's

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gonna be rip to my computer, which I guess you know, Rob.

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Back in the there used to be a time where

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you bought something and you just used it until it broke.

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Like I truly believe they make these things. To Dale

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Kelly Stewart was like two and a half to three years,

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you got to throw that thing out and get a

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new one. And I was like, I don't know. I

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feel like when I so I got this laptop, it

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was like the best laptop you could get back in

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twenty twenty one when I got moved to wager Talk.

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So apparently that's too long. So I've been told, so

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we're gonna retire this once the last day. I'll have

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my new one tomorrow, so hopefully we can get through

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the show without any issues today.

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Speaker 2: Perfect. Yeah. I had to go out and get a

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new one myself about four months ago. Yeah, it is crazy, Adam.

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It It's like the iPhone. As soon as you get

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a new iPhone six months later, it's not good enough.

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There's a new iPhone, so technology has us without question.

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But today looks like a huge card. Decent day, yes, well,

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I won't even say decent day fifty to fifty yesterday

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because I did have the Sacred Heart team total, as

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you guys know. But I followed that up with a

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play on our boyfriend McCaffrey and the Penn Quakers, who

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I thought would be able to score on Harvard, and

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that did not happen. Low scoring game. Tommy Immicker's team

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imposed their will which is a little more pedestrian, a

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lot more pedestrian, and Penn didn't quite make it to

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the finish line with their team total. But we'll take

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the one in one. If that's the worst we're gonna do,

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we're fine.

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Speaker 1: With that, ron Bino, I had a two and two

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day yesterday, but in the most satisfying way possible because

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my two four percent one by two three percenters loss.

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So if you're going to split, that is the absolutely

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the way to do it. Ended up think winning like

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maybe one point two units yesterday, So going in the

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right direction, and yeah, you you made a great point,

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we're gonna get right into it. It is a huge

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Tuesdays are really like all I feel like they're all

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feature games, or there could be about five or six.

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We could just do a show of quote unquote feature games.

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You know how that's not that is not how this

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show works. We're gonna talk about the games that you

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guys want to talk in the chat. But to start

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it off, I felt like we should go with the

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the ranked versus Rank, the one ranked verst rank matchup

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today down in the SEC Vanderbilt Arkansas. I have to

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be honest, I got this. I got Arkansas a little

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bit wrong over the weekend. I guess they were. I

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didn't bet the game, but it did come up on

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our last call show, and I just thought Arkansas was

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just a significantly better team than Georgia. I thought they

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were gonna probably have no problem with them in that spot.

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I saw a little bit of value in Arkansas as

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a dog. And then you know, in hindsight, I said,

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oh no, they had the look ahead spot of all

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look ahead spots this weekend, having to play Georgia with

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what was at the time one lost Vanderbilt coming to

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Fayetteville tonight. So Robino did Arkansas look ahead a little

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bit over the weekend, and do you see a more

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focused Razorbacks team here?

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Speaker 2: Boy, it's hard to say in the SEC and coaches

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can tell us best. If you overlook anybody in this

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league other than LSU without Dedon Thomas right now, and

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there's still a quality basketball team. It's just tough to

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go anywhere in this league and come up a winner.

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Georgia of the number one offense in the nation as

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far as point production per game is concerned. So it's

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not going to be easy when you go there. But

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I want to start this, Adam, if the chat will

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allow me to to pat myself on the back. Sometimes

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we come on these shows and we say things ahead

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of time that proved the ring very true. I want

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to quote you on Vanderbilt head coach Mark Byington. I

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had said this last week. I didn't know that it

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would occur this quickly, and I think I made that

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notation at the time. Mark Byington, We're not as deep

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as I want to be right now, but hopefully we'll

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get Frankie Collins back at some point pretty soon. I

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think when we're at our hole, I think we could

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do even better with the versions that we have, even

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better than this last week. I had said, you know what,

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at some point in time, I think Baby's going to

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be affected by depth without Collins, and he's out an

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extended period of time, right, I just didn't know that

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it would hit this quickly, or that the coach would

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recognize that this quickly. Byington goes on to say, we'll

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keep getting better. That's going to be the thing of

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our focus moving on. We're going to learn this type

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of failure in the middle of January is not permanent.

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This type of game, it could be something that really

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helps us. Of course, he refers to the game they

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lost the other day to Florida, which also came up

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on our last call segment. Adam, Vandy Florida, and I

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think that was one where you thought Florida, you wouldn't

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want to betting against Florida. That turned out to be correct.

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Here's the thing with Vanderbilt right now that I noticed

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last two games, they're on a two game losing streak

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right after being undefeated. The first sixteen games that Vanderbilt

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played this season, only one time did a team shoot

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better than forty six percent or forty six percent or

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better from the field. Last two games fifty two to nine,

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almost fifty three percent to Texas, fifty two to five

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to Florida. Those are huge numbers by this standard that

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the Vanderbilt defense had set. That's six percent higher than

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fifteen of the previous sixteen teams had shot against them.

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The only other team to shoot over forty six percent

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from the floor against Vandy was UCF way back on

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November the eighth. So they had gone a long time

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playing really good defense. We always lead with their offense

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because it's been spectacular. It was great the other day too,

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watching that game from start to finish, having a little

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bit of a a little bit of a play on

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the full game total, and obviously it went way over

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They shot fifty one percent themselves. They just couldn't match

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Florida when push came to shove, Florida always had an answer.

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We'll see if this Vanderbilt defense gets any better at him,

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because you know what, going to Fayetteville, you'd better bring

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a defense. Last four home games Arkansas's played in this

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gym Bud Walton Home against Louisville win eighty nine, eighty

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home against JMU one O three seventy four, home against

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Tennessee eighty six, seventy five home against South Carolina, the

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most recent one eight seventy four, four and OH straight up,

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four and OH against the spread, four and OH games

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over the total, four and OH team total over wins

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by nine to twenty nine, eleven, and thirty four. I

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get it that those four aren't the elite of the

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elite competition where competition is concerned, but Louisville had mckel

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brown in that game. Jmuoka Sunbelt Team Tennessee top tier

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gave up one o eight to this team. Arkansas also

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is off a loss, which situationally, you just talked about

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the Arkansas lost and Georgia situationally makes this tough. Want

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to call for a Vanderbilt bounce back because they lost

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back to backs, Well, then you have to bet against

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Arkansas off a loss at home where they've been dominant points.

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Spread's probably right where it should be, Adam, I don't

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know which way to go with this game. I could,

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like I say, make a case for both. I think

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if I had to at this point in time, I

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would lean Arkansas at home just off of the results

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that they posted. And you know, I don't want to

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selight Vanderbilt in any way, shape or form here because

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you can't. But it does seem like there in one

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of those in season ruts that everybody goes into, no

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matter how good you are, and especially on the defensive end,

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that maybe it takes another road game to get out of,

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and maybe next time they get back home to Nashville,

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I'll look Dandy's way. But for this one, slightly in Arkansas,

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just quick check of the current total here where we're

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sitting one seventy three and a half. I mean, that's

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probably right on target too. They're telling you this game

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should go somewhere in the vicinity of eighty seven eighty

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six Arkansas, eighty seven eighty eight, eighty six Arkansas. I

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can't argue that's so it's a lot of analysis for

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not really wanting to play a game, Adam, But I

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don't want to play this game.

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Speaker 1: I thought your analysis was sound. I'm not even gonna really,

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you know, rehash it because I'm in agreement with slightly

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in Arkansas. I thought you did a great job breaking

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the game down. So I'll point out just a couple

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of other things that I I think maybe support slightly

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in Arkansas over the weekend. You know, they did get

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beat by Georgia. Georgia hit twelve threes in that game.

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I think Arkansas probably played the game they wanted to play, Like,

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if that Georgia team's just gonna hit twelve threes on you,

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you almost have to tip your cap a little bit.

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They won the rebounding battle. You know, Arkansas themselves on

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the road five for twenty one and from three in

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that game. That was probably the difference. But again, I

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don't know that they like, I don't think that that's

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a horrible result. Georgia cracked the top twenty five with

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that win. Listen, winning on the road and the SEC

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is not easy. And I think that's where I'll just

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wrap this up. This has been going on for years.

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Arkansas at home SEC games very tough to beat. Arkansas

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at home this year, very tough to beat ten and oh,

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I believe coming into tonight at the Bud Walton Arena,

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I'm with you, Rob, this isn't the spot that I

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want to suddenly jump back in with Vandy. I really

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think that this also has to do with you know,

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now you're in now you're in SEC play. It's the

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best conference in college basketball by you know, for many

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people would say that this is the toughest league in

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college hoop. Yeah, you had a great non conference, you know,

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winning games like VCU and Saint Mary's in the Bahamas

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or whatever there were, Atlantis or wherever those games were

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is impressive. The blowout win over SMU. But like they

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really haven't experienced until this point a schedule that has

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you played Bama, send you to Texas. Now you're home

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against Florida, who desperately needs a win. Now you're back

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on the road at Arkansas. Listen, losing three or four

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games in a row in a league like this is

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not uncommon, and I don't think Vandy's immune to that either.

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So I'm with you. I lean toward Arkansas, but I

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don't know if I'm getting enough having to you know,

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I think the number is fair. I don't think there's

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really any value on the spread. I just don't know

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if there's enough there for me to jump in make

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it a client play. But I certainly lean toward the Razorbacks.

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And again I said, when I left the game of

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Brian Power East Lansing, we were there early in the year,

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I said, this is it Arkansas team that I will

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be in. I'm gonna probably want to be on them

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in February and forward, just because, like I feel like

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that's what Cali Perry gets the best out of his teams.

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So we'll learn a lot tonight, in my opinion in

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this game, Rob Vita.

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Speaker 2: And in Mark Byington's opinion too, he's looking he's we'll

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learn a little more. So everybody's going to learn tonight,

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Adam from this game.

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Speaker 1: Listen. We're here to learn, but we're also here to

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find winners. So that's what we're gonna do the right

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you know what I just decided, Rob, because we keep

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splitting the parlay and we got to make sure we

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get the payoff when we hit the parlay. Today is

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a three we're doing a three team or today. I

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don't know where that third game's coming from. Maybe it

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comes right here from Garth. Maybe we'll ask him if

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he wants to be put on the spot by you.

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Probably will roll in at some point, but garthppreciate your

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donation to the show. As always, he wants to go

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to the Big East Crazy game in the Big East yesterday,

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Providence and Marquette. Listen, Rob the Big East might be down,

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it doesn't mean there that it's void of entertainment. Great

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basketball games. Providence Marquette got up in the hundreds yesterday.

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Ot Garth wants to go to Paul Butler, he says,

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he leans to Paul plus seven and a half. I'm

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gonna let you kick this off, Rob, because you started

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to talk about de Paul on Friday and would have

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been right about that game had it make Maybe it

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did make your card, I don't remember. But kick us

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off to Paul Butler in the Big East.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not gonna argue plus seven and a half

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with DePaul. I mean to quote colleague and friends Ski prophet.

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If I can't trust you to get stops, how am

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I gonna lay this type of price? And you can't

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trust Butler to get a stop. What you can trust

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Butler to do is score, And I don't know that

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DePaul has it in their bag to stop Butler from scoring. Here.

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First place I looked Garth in this game immediately was,

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of course game total and Butler team total. To me,

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I have to be honest. This total, even being bed up,

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seems low. One forty six and a half up to

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one point fifty. I'm not gonna say that it can

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make the heights of Providence Marquette. But I see this

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game in the same in the same way that I

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saw Vanderbilt, that we saw Providence Marquette yesterday. It's just

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an offensive basketball game here. Butler's gonna score. They're going

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to allow you to score. At home. They should be

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able to score on DePaul. The Butler team total here

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is seventy eight and a half or seventy seven and

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a half, seventy eight and a half. Shop around again,

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we always say this, shop around for best number tause

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you can find someventy seven and a half's out there

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if you do like the Butler overside. But wow, I

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just threw myself right off track here with my chin.

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Too many things go now between these years at them,

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but very simply put, you know, to the answer on

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the side, there's no way I would lay it with Butler,

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even though it's a home team that can score. You

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just can't try. And to Paul, let me say this

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about the Paul. They play with a lot of fight,

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and that's a team that's gonna fight for the full

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for If you bet the Paul, you're gonna get your

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money's worth at least whether you cover or not. You're

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not gonna walk away and say they quit on you,

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they're lazy, they're this or that, they're none of those things.

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I think they're going in the right direction. I think

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they're going in a better direction than Butler. But every year,

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whether it be college football, college basketball, NFL, NBA basketball,

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I tend to tag teams as over teams, and Butler's

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one of those where I just continually if I don't

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bet a Butler game over, I'm probably not betting it

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at all. For me, I think the most value could

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lay or could in this full game total over. And

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I think I remember what I was gonna say now,

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I see the winner of this game in the eighties

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and so at seventy seven and a half, if Butler wins,

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they're probably going over. But to me, Garth, that was

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the biggest surprise that they opened this one one six

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and a half, and money the market obviously sees the

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same way. They have pushed it to one fifty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I've actually I've made my round

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so far in the Big East, Robino, I've I think

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I've been to three or four Big East games now

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past month or so. One of the first Big East

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games I saw this year in person was Saint John's

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and Paul And before that game, I noted, we actually

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you had Jim Root on the show that day, so

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I didn't have that. I didn't do the show that day.

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I went after the Drexel game. It was a rare

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missshow for me. But I noted the you know, kind

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of like I think on Twitter that day because I

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had some time to to tweet between games, that I

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that I really felt like this could be the year.

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And and and it's just twofold one the Big East

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that we've sort of outlined on this show the whole time,

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this is a is a pretty down year for the

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Big East. It's just not a good year across the

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board for the conference. Yes, Yukon is a very good team,

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and they belong in the conversation for national you know,

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they're they're they're one of a handful of teams that

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maybe could win a national championship. But when you get

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outside of that conference isn't very good. And and I

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think it's it is the perfect year for DePaul to overachieve.

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I thought that this team is, you know, someone in

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the chat says to Paul, twelve and five against the

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spread makes complete sense. I thought this team was pretty

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undervalued coming into the season. Again, they were, they were

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put behind a lot of other teams in the Big

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East coming into the season. That they aren't necessarily worse.

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Then you know that they weren't necessarily worse than at

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the time, and now they aren't worse then because so

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many of these teams have had you know, I mean

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Georgetown one and six. But you know, as Ed Cooley says, Rob,

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we got nil money. There's worse things, right, There's worse

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things than being one and six. Maybe an all time

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quote from a coach right there, Marquette maybe one of

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the worst seasons that I can't remember. Worst Marquette season

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seven and thirteen, two and seven in league play. So

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you know, by default, like if all of these teams

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are gonna underachieve, someone's gonna bump up the ranks. I

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think that team is de Paul Butler's another one of

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those teams two and five in league play. I fallen

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for the Butler trap a couple of times. I played

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them last week against Xavier, a Xavier team that actually

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was one of the teams that should be near the

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bottom because they have a new coach and they're in

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a complete sort of year zero in my opinion, and

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Butler got destroyed by them. So how would I lay

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seven and a half with this Butler team here? Could

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they come out and cover? Yeah? They could? If if

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I bet to Paul, will they yes? Because this team

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owns me. Can't get them right. I can't get Butler right.

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To save my life, I go against them. I think

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I had right state earlier this year against Butler. I

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was getting like twenty something points. It was a three

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point game at halftime, and Butler scored sixty something in

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the second half. So for me, Garth, I just have

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not been able to get on the right side of

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a Butler game. But I know they're not very good

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and that has played out because they're two and five

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in league plays. So I absolutely cannot put you off

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the De Paul side here. I love what Holtman's done.

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I think they're gonna be admit I think that I

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think DePaul is headed for potentially. I think they could

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crack the top five in this league. I'll go on

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record saying that I think DePaul could make it to

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fifth in the Big East this year. I really do

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think that they're they're better than a lot of these

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other Big East teams. So I can't put you off

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that I think the numbers fair. But to Paul, yeah,

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I could see that hanging around tonight.

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Speaker 2: Just real quick here to finish this, so off, Adam

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Butler beats Seaton Hall the other day at Seaton Hall,

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score seventy seven on the Hall despite four of eighteen

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to three point shooting garth to what I was saying

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earlier that game, Butler Seaton Hall hits one forty three

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with seven for thirty five combined three point shooting twenty

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percent from three by those two teams, thirty five chucked up,

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only seven went in and they still got to one

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forty three. So I think that the shooting from beyond

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the arc would be a little bit better there by

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each side here tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'll just let you read Trevor's comment. I don't disagree

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with it. He's not wrong, but hey, this is what

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we're talking about. This is this is how mediocre this

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league is. Seaton Hall comes out, nearly, comes back, nearly

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gets Yukon, turns around, Butler goes into their building destroys

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them as a six and a half point. Now you

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want Butler to turn around and win and cover seven

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and a half. I think just like that logic would

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probably point me to to Garth's side with the Paul

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as well. All right, Rob Vino, I see people in

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the chat talking about it. I was waiting for one

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person to bring it up. Because the feature game tonight

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is in the MAC Conference. It's in Kent, Ohio. The

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Miami RedHawks are unbeaten. What a game over the weekend,

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one of the best games of the year. A tip

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out three to tie the game, send it to ot

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and then Peter Souter just rocks rocks his defender to sleep,

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pull up three in his face for the way, Miami

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of Ohio stays unbeaten. And now they head to the

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MAC Center on the campus of Kent State University, where

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my guy, I believe, my guy, DJ Smills is still there.

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Great in house. DJ, one of the best I've come

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across to this point. He's gonna have the place hype.

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I actually think on Twitter he still has my comment

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pinned from like a couple of years ago. So anyway,

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it's a great atmosphere Kent State. We talked about this

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on Friday they beat Toledo and I said, you know, Rob,

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last year, Kent State had a down year. Okay, going

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into the season, they had won like thirty something. I

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think they had won like thirty or something, or like twenty.

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It was like twenty eight straight home games. It was

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getting up there, the home win streak that they had

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carrying over from their NCAA tournament team the year before,

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and they just had a down year last year. This year,

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on Opening Night, they lost at home to Troy in

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overtime in a game where they easily could have won.

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There was one hundred. I think both teams cracked one

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hundred and got very close to one hundred. And they

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haven't lost since ten straight home wins. It looks like

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the Max Center home court edge is alive and well

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the kids are back. Does my may of Ohio lose

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their first game tonight.

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Speaker 2: Robbie, you know what my personal opinion is. And I

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didn't have or I haven't had the I don't know

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Cajone's whatever you want to call them to pull the

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trigger yet. I just feel like Miami's running out of

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time now with the undefeated record. Right at some point

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in time they'll have a loss tacked into that column,

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and there's probably no better chance than having them come

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off the game that you just describe dramatic, ot win

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so close to losing, pull it out, and then after

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march on to Kent, who's probably the second best team

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in this league. They've been dominant. They score almost at

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will when you watch it, like I get to lead

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as a bad defense, and we did talk about this

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game the other night. But Kent does what they want

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to do whenever they want to do the problem, of course,

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is that they give it up as well. In Miami's

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the number one effective field goal percent shooting a team

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in the country. So you have the best shooting team

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against a defense that'll give it up. It's it's gonna

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be a back and forth by all statistical metric numbers.

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But I think Kent at home probably is the place

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where the streak ends for Miami. Like I say, you

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watch enough seasons of this, and believe me, I've seen

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my share of seasons and you get the feeling. And

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in the business, we kind of call it gut feeling

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when you see a game, and I referred to it

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the Miami close call. Barely keep things alive, celebration afterwards,

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and then have to go on the road to an

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extremely good conference foe. I just see it ending here.

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However Kent has to do it, it would probably be

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high scoring. The total indicates that I think Kent matches

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up real well. Here's the thing. Kent, even if they

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get a huge or Miami even if they get a

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bit lead, Kent is capable of the comeback. The crowd

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is capable of pushing him through the comeback. If Kent

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gets a big lead, Miami is capable of the comeback.

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Number tells you it's going to be close. It has

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shifted from Kent minus one to Miami Ohio minus one,

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one sixty seven and a half. Big push down in

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the total ad. I'm not sure I agree that we

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come down that much. Maybe somebody thought one seventy two

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and a half was too high, but to be one

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sixty seven win sixty seven and a half right now,

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I'm not so sure. I do personally think Kent will

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win this game. Haven't bet it so, I don't want

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anybody to rush to the window. But I also think

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that it's time to push back on this total. To

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me eighty five eighty three cash is your ticket and

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that sounds more than reasonable in this game. Up, Yeah,

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I got the area.

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Speaker 1: I was actually I was just texting with Brian Power.

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It looks like we are going to try to go

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to the Miami of Ohio Ohio game his album either

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and Athens on the final day of the season. Rob,

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so selfishly, I love Miami of Ohio to be unbeaten

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A going into that game. Do I think that's gonna happen. No. However,

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if someone doesn't get them soon, they've actually played the

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hard That's actually the craziest, one of the crazier things

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for Miami of Ohio in terms of their MAC schedule.

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If they win this game, Rob, they will have played

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the harder part of their MAC schedule already. Like, I

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don't think they have to play Akron again, it's not

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a so the MAC is not balanced. You don't play

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everyone twice. So again, I don't have it in front

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00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,079
of me here, I'm going off memory, but I don't

477
00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:47,640
think they would have to play either of these teams

478
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,799
after today. So if they get through this one, they're

479
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,200
gonna have to. You know, they do play Ohio twice.

480
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,160
And yeah, I don't think I don't even know if

481
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,799
they have to play bowling Green again. But as far

482
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,960
as this game is concerned, listen, Kent State, the edge

483
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,759
they probably have here is rebounding. They if they win

484
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:10,960
the glass, they're gonna be in a good position to

485
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,880
win this game. Doesn't mean they're going to win. I mean,

486
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,079
it's gonna be tough to find a better offense, a

487
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,599
more efficient offense to Miami Ohio. They're as good as

488
00:26:20,599 --> 00:26:23,440
it gets. The way they splace the floor is incredible,

489
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,960
Like they deserve to be in this spot like that.

490
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,640
That's I guess. The point I'll try to make here

491
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,960
is it's not a fluke that they've won the games

492
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,200
that they've won to this point. Yes, they pulled on

493
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:37,119
a rabbit out of the hat against Buffalo, who's a

494
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,440
good team this year. That's a good Buffalo team. So

495
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,519
to me, it's like it's really tough because do I

496
00:26:44,559 --> 00:26:46,839
think this is the most likely spot for like a

497
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:50,079
slip up, go on the road and lose. Yes, do

498
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,559
I even think that, like, like theoretically Kent State might

499
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,880
be a better team than Miami of Ohio because Kent

500
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,200
State played tougher non conference schedule and there are only

501
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,359
one game behind, eyeing the RedHawks in conference play. So

502
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,119
if Kent State comes out and wins this game at

503
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,079
home where they've been very hard to beat, they have

504
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,440
the same records as Miami Ohio and conference play. I

505
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,960
think my path to a play here, Rob would be

506
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000
if Miami of Ohio takes more money and then it

507
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:18,079
pushes it on the other side of two. I think

508
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,839
it's like one. I think they flipped to a one

509
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:22,640
and a half point favorite. I think if you could

510
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,400
get me to Kent State plus two and a half

511
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,039
right here, I'd have to put some thought into that.

512
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:33,400
That sounds like the bye point for me. Ahead of that,

513
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:36,319
it would just be a slight lean toward Kent State

514
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,839
based on the fact that they're home where they've been

515
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,240
very good and it feels like the spot that it

516
00:27:42,279 --> 00:27:44,759
finally comes crashing down in Miami in Ohio takes their

517
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,839
first loss. All right, let's let's get a quick promo

518
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,359
in here. If you, oh, did you have something to add?

519
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,920
I think you're muted now I think you might be muted.

520
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,799
Speaker 2: Now you are right. I was muted. Doug was barking.

521
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:01,960
I shut him down. Here's what's crazy and why staring

522
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,680
at statistics and metrics all day long, don't necessarily always

523
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,480
point you in a correct direction. Miami of Ohio has

524
00:28:09,759 --> 00:28:14,359
got the three hundred and thirty second offensive rebound percentage

525
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,359
in the country out of three hundred and sixty five teams,

526
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,279
so the twenty fourth worst offensive rebounding team in the country,

527
00:28:20,279 --> 00:28:23,279
which would lead you to believe that, man, they can't

528
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:27,480
hit the offensive glass for second chances. But of course

529
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,200
they're three hundred and thirty second because there's anything in

530
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,400
these sentry and three nothing comes out. Everything goes in

531
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,960
in the hoops. So again, for those who are just

532
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,720
getting into this stuff and watching us on a daily basis,

533
00:28:39,799 --> 00:28:42,240
and you want to try and you're already doing your

534
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,880
own handicapping, or you're even if you've been doing it

535
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,680
for a while, you'll notice these things where you know,

536
00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:49,720
if you're making every shot, of course, there aren't going

537
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:52,200
to be ever any offensive rebounds. And boy in Miami

538
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,079
five and eight and two point field goal percentage and

539
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:57,400
three point field goal percentage and number five and free

540
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,400
frow percentage, just nothing doesn't go in the the hoop

541
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,480
that they shoot.

542
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna continue on. Yeah, I wouldn't listen,

543
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,400
you could. That's the type of game where I think

544
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,200
you could make a sound argument for either team, and

545
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,480
it's like I think you could probably sell me either way.

546
00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:22,480
But yeah, that's you know those are those are they

547
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,839
make great watch. It's gonna be one to watch, very

548
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,640
similar to Vandy Arkansas. I don't I don't know if

549
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,160
I'll get to the window there. Okay, couple promos quick.

550
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,599
The first thing, I mean, this is amazing. I'm gonna

551
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,000
promo how does Andy Lang have a discord? I swear

552
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:40,160
to god, there's five Andy Langs like he he like,

553
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,799
there's got to be four of him or he never

554
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,559
ever ever sleeps. I thought I didn't sleep. I think

555
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:50,000
he might never sleep. So promo Andy has a discord.

556
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,880
That's news to me. That's awesome. Garth posts in there

557
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:55,720
where he's done extremely well, which tracks because he comes

558
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:59,279
on this show all the time and has typically you know,

559
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:02,960
blessed with a win. So shout out to Andy for

560
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,480
running a discord. That's tremendous stuff. And you can see

561
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:09,240
him at noon every day right here on the wager

562
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:13,200
Talk YouTube channel for wager Talk Today. Rob, you know

563
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,000
what's the promo today? Obviously it's Tuesday. But what else

564
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:16,920
do we got to talk about?

565
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: Well, real quick here, no disservice to you or I,

566
00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:25,319
who are one man bands. But I've talked to Andy

567
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:28,440
before and I do believe Andy's got a team around him.

568
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,839
So Andy may have a few extra hands aside, like

569
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,440
you and I are just one man bands. We don't

570
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,759
have extra hands. He's in the chait.

571
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's is that an Andy Berner? It's just

572
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:40,680
Andy is truly awesome.

573
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: He's got burners too, you know what. We all love Andy,

574
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,119
and yeah, he just he's a hard working dude. So

575
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,440
kudos to Andy, and kudos to Garth for that fifteen

576
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,519
to twenty six record inside Andy's Discord channel. Real quick here, Adam.

577
00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:04,599
Aside from five dollars Tuesday. Uh, it's of course double

578
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,039
the firepower. Man. Why do I have so much trouble

579
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:12,759
remembering our own? It's double the CBV firepowers. Oh, and

580
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,920
he is truly awesome.

581
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,759
Speaker 1: Well, that's just his that is just his handle. That's

582
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:18,839
not a burner, that's just him, he says. He why

583
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,839
he says he has our show on every day. That's

584
00:31:20,839 --> 00:31:23,559
a that's a huge compliment. I very much appreciate that

585
00:31:23,599 --> 00:31:26,000
because I know how hard we work and how busy

586
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,279
it is, and it is hard to like watch all

587
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:31,160
of the content, So that is that's great.

588
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he's a great guy too. I've had to have

589
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,319
had the pleasure spending some time with him. Double the

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percent selections from either one of us. It's just fifty

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nine dollars. I believe that's the poinst price price point

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on that three full days. As you see, you do

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get a batch of selections from each of us, and

597
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:08,359
they do very Adams more of a sides guy. I'm

598
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,559
more of a totals guy, so you'll get a good

599
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,480
mix of both on top of what we already give

600
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:16,559
you on this show. Whatever you request, we try and

601
00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:18,519
analyze for you, whether we come up with a selection

602
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or not. But if you do visit either one of

603
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our home pages which are always scrolling on the bottom

604
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of the screen there, or wager talk dot com, you

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can pick up your double de CBB Firepower. I'll just

606
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promo real fast the fact that since December. First again,

607
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Adam number two at wager talk. It's been a great,

608
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great run here for the last now. I think it's

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seven week run now. So if you want to purchase,

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Double the CBB Firepower three days, fifty nine bucks all

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Speaker 1: Release and Andy Lang's in Indiana. I believe graduate God,

614
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:54,880
I think he went to Indiana.

615
00:32:55,319 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: I know he ha'd be proud last night.

616
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: I mean that's a yeah, incredible run for Indiana football.

617
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,319
And that'll be our segue because I see Garth's jump

618
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:10,160
back in with a another donation, which we very much appreciate.

619
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,720
He says, I you, Michigan think Indiana basketball team slumps

620
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,359
after last night's championship win by the football team, Well,

621
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,599
that's an interesting angle, Garth. That's that's an interesting way

622
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:24,519
to look at it. The other thing is they got

623
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,440
to play Michigan, which might not be very easy slump

624
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:32,359
or not right like Michigan is still they rob Do

625
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,400
you think Michigan got put on the back burner a

626
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,640
little bit because some of these other teams are still

627
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,119
unbeaten and and are you do you think that they've

628
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:44,799
suddenly gone under the radar, just to Tad because of

629
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:50,319
the all the hoopla surrounding Nebraska, Miami, Ohio, and Arizona,

630
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,279
who are still unbeaten. Because at one point I thought

631
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,039
Michigan was the clear best team in the country.

632
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I thought that for quite a while

633
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:03,920
since Thanksgiving tournament time. I watched a lot of Michigan

634
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,559
and thought, man, who's gonna bet these guys? And then

635
00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:09,920
they just continued to rip off offensive performances that would

636
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,559
lead you to believe that nobody could stop them. But

637
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,039
the offense is kind of you know. I don't want

638
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,679
to say it's slumped, because obviously they're still scoring, but

639
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,480
Michigan is not produced the way they produced earlier on

640
00:34:23,559 --> 00:34:26,519
this season. And that's the effect of conference season, right Adam.

641
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:30,079
As soon as you hit conference season, things do start

642
00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:32,119
to change a little bit. I don't think that the

643
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,880
team is any worse than they were to start with.

644
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,039
I would agree with you that maybe there's not as

645
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:41,960
much chatter about Michigan at this point in time. I

646
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,559
go back to the Wisconsin game where they took their

647
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:48,519
only lost, ninety one to eighty eight, and really they

648
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:53,599
had multiple multiple opportunities down the stretch to win that game.

649
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,239
They just didn't make shots. A team that consistently made

650
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,920
shots could not make shots wide open threes. I think

651
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,239
I said this on the show back when it happened, Adam,

652
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,079
the basketball gods should have been kinder to Michigan that

653
00:35:08,159 --> 00:35:11,320
day because the ball movement on offense for Dusty May's

654
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,880
team was absolutely wonderful. You know, you always hear the

655
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:19,119
saying pass up a good shot to get a better shot.

656
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,280
That ball was working around and then they would just

657
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,039
miss the three, and it's like God, that thing deserved

658
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,519
to go in just because of the work to pass

659
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:29,760
the ball to find the best shot. You know, they

660
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,159
beat Oregon not in really convincing fashion, but then again,

661
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:35,400
that was a two day road trip to the Pacific

662
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,639
Northwest where they came away with wins. And sometimes in

663
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,480
conference play we've talked about the leagues that do have

664
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:44,519
the difficult travel. That's all you can ask. Win by

665
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:48,199
ten two times in a row. Power ratings may still

666
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:49,960
have them a little bit overrated, but now they're back

667
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,079
home where they like it the best, and I'm not

668
00:35:53,159 --> 00:35:56,360
so sure that they don't break out again here tonight

669
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,480
against Indiana. I want to get the exact number before

670
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,239
I close out here, so I can give you some

671
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,920
type of Yeah. So right now, it's been bet down

672
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,239
to fifteen and a half, which I think is correct.

673
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,719
I do think the power rating on Michigan may still

674
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,239
be a little bit too high, and that doesn't correlate

675
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,800
to you saying they're not getting as much national attention.

676
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:24,519
National attention and power ratings from vegas and offshore book

677
00:36:24,559 --> 00:36:27,719
makers have nothing to do with one another. But here

678
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:30,119
we see a little bit of movement towards Indiana. Our

679
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,599
markets bet them two points worth and the total is

680
00:36:33,639 --> 00:36:35,360
going up to one sixty three and a half. I

681
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,679
somewhat agree with that. What I agree with mostly here

682
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,840
is that Michigan's team totals should get up there again

683
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,559
tonight it's eighty nine and a half, Probably find their

684
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,599
way to ninety. Back home, we'll see if that makes

685
00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:51,000
the card, but that would probably be my totals lean

686
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:55,079
And from a side perspective, seventeen and a half was

687
00:36:55,119 --> 00:37:00,239
worth taking fifteen fifteen and a half. Maybe we're we

688
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,639
lost a little value here. I think I would be

689
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,159
tempted by fifteen and a half.

690
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:12,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, the tough part here is that Indiana is pretty

691
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:15,239
by low right now, right Like, they've lost three straight,

692
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,599
you know, losing at home to Iowa last time out,

693
00:37:19,679 --> 00:37:23,000
I would say was the spot where many people probably

694
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:25,639
thought Indiana was in a good spot to bounce back

695
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:29,119
get crushed by Michigan State, you know, lose the game

696
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:31,679
to Nebraska that they had a lead in for a

697
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,199
lot of the game, Robbino, that could have been could

698
00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:39,119
have been Nebraska's first loss. Matchup wise, Indiana's gonna have

699
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:42,159
you know, they haven't shot it as well on the road.

700
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,960
They're gonna have to shoot the ball. I don't know

701
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,760
that you're just getting inside and scoring on Michigan near

702
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,079
the rim. It's gonna have to shoot it. Okay here,

703
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:53,559
but Michigan you do make a good I mean they've

704
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:57,039
been quite inflated from a market standpoint for a while now.

705
00:37:57,079 --> 00:37:59,480
Even on their most recent West coast trip. They win

706
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:02,719
both of those games by double figures. They don't cover either, right,

707
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,280
I believe they were. I think the lines in those

708
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,360
two were twelve and a half and maybe as high

709
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,320
as eighteen against Oregon if I remember correctly, So didn't

710
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,880
cover either of those numbers. I do think Michigan at

711
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,599
some point is going to bury someone. Maybe that's Ohio

712
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:23,039
State on Friday that they really just you know, hang

713
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:23,760
a number on.

714
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: That.

715
00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: This number feels right, I could see listen if Michigan.

716
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:30,800
If Michigan comes out and wins by twenty, I won't

717
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,679
be surprised, but it is a It's an awfully big

718
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,000
number to lay against an Indiana team that's lost three straight,

719
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:40,800
and it's kind of coming in in a little bit

720
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,719
of a desperate spot as well, so interesting one. I

721
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,599
think Michigan, though down the road, is a team I'm

722
00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:50,559
going to look to buy in with. Maybe maybe the

723
00:38:50,639 --> 00:38:53,519
buy for them, especially if it's a closer game tonight.

724
00:38:53,559 --> 00:38:56,239
Maybe maybe the spot for Michigan is Friday when they

725
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,400
play Ohio State on the same floor.

726
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: And real quick here, I love doing this show with

727
00:39:04,039 --> 00:39:07,000
you because it always triggers a secondary thought. I had

728
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,239
had a quote from Darien Davrez from Indiana, but you

729
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,000
reference the Nebraska game, and that was a game where

730
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:17,840
I played Indiana first half. They did win the first half.

731
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,679
Nebraska came from sixteen down the second half, but I

732
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,159
played it for a specific reason that could come into

733
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:27,159
play here too, And I get Michigan's got game tape

734
00:39:27,199 --> 00:39:31,440
on Indiana now, right, But it's the first time around

735
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,320
for a lot of these Big ten teams, ones that

736
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,039
haven't played Indiana yet to see the difference in Indiana

737
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,079
and Darien Driz system as opposed to what they had

738
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:44,280
played previously. And it caught Nebraska a little bit off guard,

739
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,079
I think in the first half, and then they adjusted

740
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:50,760
second half. Came from way back, and one could be

741
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,719
the same thing here from Michigan. I mean, you could

742
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,360
use that argument. Maybe Michigan doesn't recognize exactly these sets

743
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,800
and everything that Indiana is running. It's a little bit different.

744
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:05,320
Dere set a problem, his team must rem it a

745
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,480
wait a minute. For the first fifteen games of the year,

746
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,280
our offense was moving and cutting. We were getting and

747
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,960
playing the way that I think makes us most successful.

748
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,920
I feel like the last two or three games we've

749
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,079
gotten away from that action, which correlates with what you

750
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:21,679
were saying about them being on a three game skid,

751
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,280
just not doing the things that the coach, the principles

752
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,760
that the coach has for their offense. So we'll see

753
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,840
if they get back to it tonight.

754
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, And a good point here from Trevor, I think

755
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,320
a good way to finish this one out, you know,

756
00:40:35,159 --> 00:40:38,679
I mean, how much is the Indiana basketball team really

757
00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:40,599
partying because the football team won. I feel like they

758
00:40:40,639 --> 00:40:45,280
probably like probably watch the game together, We're thrilled, probably

759
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,079
just you know, kicking it inside their like sweet ass

760
00:40:48,199 --> 00:40:50,960
like sports only dorm facility, and then they probably just

761
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,280
like you know, went to bed. It's not not like

762
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,360
thirty years ago where they would have been out probably

763
00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:58,719
like getting hammered before am. I just don't think like

764
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,000
this day and age athlete does that. So it's like

765
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:05,679
I'd be more concerned with the fact that Michigan just

766
00:41:05,679 --> 00:41:08,480
had to fly back from the West Coast time zone

767
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,480
and they're getting back acclimated. I think that's a you know,

768
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:15,280
probably the better point to be made there. So yeah,

769
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,480
it'll be an interesting one. Well, I'll give one out

770
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:20,679
right now. I'll lock in leg one of what I

771
00:41:20,679 --> 00:41:24,480
think is gonna be a three team parlay. I played

772
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:27,920
Bowling Green minus six and a half and I talked

773
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,119
about this. Actually I didn't. I don't know if I

774
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:32,360
talked about this on the show yet.

775
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:32,639
Speaker 2: I was.

776
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,079
Speaker 1: I was talking about this with with my buddy Joey

777
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,280
cheese this morning for a little bit. But you know,

778
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,320
yesterday I won my two four percenters, which which were

779
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,800
far more matchup based type handicaps than like totally being

780
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,559
like so overly concerned with like getting this great number,

781
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,440
like having like a huge numerical edge getting a ton

782
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,000
of CLD. I think for me personally, I've done better

783
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:58,840
this year when I just like hone in on a

784
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,559
matchup and and you know, just just find the matchup

785
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:07,719
type winner, like yesterday with Cornell, the Cornell Press being

786
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,599
a terrible matchup for Brown Hampton being able to overwhelm

787
00:42:11,679 --> 00:42:14,000
NCAA and t those are my two four percenters yesterday,

788
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:16,719
both won easily. So I'm just gonna try to do

789
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,159
it again here. I think the number on this is

790
00:42:19,159 --> 00:42:22,360
probably fair at six and a half. I don't love

791
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,519
laying points on the road, Robino, It's never been my style,

792
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,960
But here I think I'm fine with it. I think

793
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,239
Bowling Green could blow up Western Michigan out tonight. I

794
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,000
just the You know, this was a team that I

795
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,280
was very high on in non conference play. They had

796
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,599
a great non conference they came into the league, and

797
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:44,880
they've struggled a little bit in league play. But I mean,

798
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,480
they're they're a team that's going to overwhelm you defensively, right,

799
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:51,960
Like that is there? That is like the way that

800
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,519
they're going to win games is being athletic, really defending.

801
00:42:56,639 --> 00:43:00,039
And they are three and three in league play. But

802
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:04,800
the three losses Miami of Ohio, Kent State, Akron. Is

803
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,199
there anyone out there that's going to argue that those

804
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,079
are far and away the three best offenses in this league,

805
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:12,400
with Miami of Ohio being one of the best offenses

806
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,199
in the country right, Like to me, rob no shame

807
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,159
in losing any of those games, because even though Bowling

808
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:24,599
Green is solid, they're still not up in that tier

809
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:28,760
in my opinion in this league. They where I do

810
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,480
think they play is when they play some of these

811
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:35,239
lesser teams, and surprisingly they haven't covered these numbers yet.

812
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,280
Over the weekend, they were an eight and a half

813
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,360
point favorite against Eastern Michigan. I think I think maybe

814
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,440
their standing was a little inflated coming in from non

815
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,159
conference play and then having to sort of lay some

816
00:43:47,199 --> 00:43:50,039
of these bigger numbers to the lesser teams, but they

817
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:52,559
failed to cover that. I think they won, but failed

818
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:56,760
to cover at UMass as well. And so suddenly they're

819
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,519
a little bit undervalued, and they play a Western Michigan

820
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,920
team that turns the ball over as much as anyone

821
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,920
in the conference two hundred and eighty six nationally in turnovers.

822
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,199
You know, boys, but Bowling Green doesn't rebound the ball

823
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,280
particularly well. I was at the Lemoyne Bowling Green game

824
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,480
with Brian Power. I felt like Leamoyne kind of like

825
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:17,639
took it to them on the glass in the first

826
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:18,960
half of that game, and then they kind of got

827
00:44:19,039 --> 00:44:21,880
in the game. But Western Michigan isn't going to overwhelm

828
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,400
you on the boards. So I look at this matchup,

829
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,760
I see nothing that Western Michigan really does better than

830
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,599
Bowling Green. And that turnover the two hundred and eighty

831
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:35,400
six nationally, turning it over close to thirteen times a game,

832
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:39,119
I think is where this one is where the difference is.

833
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:41,920
In this one. Bowling Green is gonna win games that

834
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,880
can overwhelm you defensively. I feel like you get a

835
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,960
big effort from them here, and to me, this is

836
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:49,760
a double digit Bowling Green win. I give Western Michigan

837
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,840
very little edge for home court, so I'm gonna lay

838
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,039
it on the road. Not my style. But that's what

839
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:57,840
I'm doing for this one today, and I'm gonna have

840
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,000
quite a few plays today. So check out that package

841
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:01,800
that Rob and I have. But this is a three

842
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,440
percent for me picking this spot to jump in with

843
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,280
a bowling Green team.

844
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:11,519
Speaker 2: I really like a lot like it, like it you.

845
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,360
I'm staring at the clock here, Adam, thinking that fourteen

846
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,519
minutes left in the show. Probably that's my cue to

847
00:45:18,559 --> 00:45:20,280
go ahead and give my half, and then we'll figure

848
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,000
out where we're gonna get the third. Sounds big of

849
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:27,000
this parlay choices galore here for me tonight, I'm gonna

850
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,440
repeat what you just said, same for myself. A lot

851
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,960
of plays here tonight on this card. I'm probably gonna

852
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,719
have five, potentially six. I'll give you one right here,

853
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,000
and again, I do have my selection of games that

854
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,599
I like, but I'm gonna you know, we've talked a

855
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:47,239
lot on this show, at least I have about teams

856
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,679
that I tag where totals are concerned, and I just

857
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:59,639
can't get over how good Saint Louis is offensively. I'll

858
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,559
leave you guys with that thought, and then I'll give

859
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:04,559
you the game that I'm gonna use here, which is

860
00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:07,320
gonna be TCU. Oklahoma State has been a team that

861
00:46:08,199 --> 00:46:11,199
been pretty accurate on all season long. For what it's worth,

862
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,239
Steve Lets's team all offense, no defense, a lot of

863
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:19,719
tempo TCU, Jimmie Dixon's team needs a win. You were

864
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,960
talking before, Adam about schedules that teams have had to

865
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:27,679
play so far this season, and in the Big Twelve,

866
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,079
there is no easy game for the most part. But

867
00:46:30,159 --> 00:46:33,400
for TCU, you're on a four game losing streak where

868
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,519
you lose an ot to Kansas, who we're seeing is

869
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:41,079
becoming the Kansas. A lot of people expected Arizona BYU,

870
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,159
and then after that Trio they fall short against Utah.

871
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,519
I don't think you can blame them. You know, in

872
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:51,000
your second game in the Rocky Mountains in altitude, after

873
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,079
you've just played the three I listed before that, you

874
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:57,000
lose eighty two seventy nine. They're back home here against

875
00:46:57,039 --> 00:47:01,199
Oklahoma State. Very very fair number here, I thought, as

876
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:03,599
far as team total was concerned. At eighty four and

877
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:06,440
a half, Oklahoma State's dead last in the Big Twelve

878
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,559
in points allowed per game. It's eighty points something they

879
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:15,119
have no issue giving up anywhere between eighty five and

880
00:47:15,199 --> 00:47:17,960
one hundred. We've seen it constantly all season long. I

881
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,960
think TCU comes out here with a lot of fight

882
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,159
at home tonight, off the four game losing streak, and

883
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:26,000
finds Oklahoma States defense pretty easy to penetrate. I give

884
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:30,039
you a quote from Steve Lutz, head coach of Oklahoma State,

885
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:36,199
who said, we have the team. I do believe that

886
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,679
we do that. If we get better defensively, we can

887
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,639
make a run in the Big Twelve and get into

888
00:47:41,679 --> 00:47:46,039
the NCAA Tournament. If offense was the only aspect of

889
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,039
the game, I wouldn't doubt the head coach. But he's

890
00:47:48,039 --> 00:47:51,360
telling you right there. If we can get better defensively,

891
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,800
we haven't seen it yet. I don't know that we're

892
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,000
going to see it tonight. TCU more than capable. And

893
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,440
one other thing here is tc is very well. You've

894
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,320
talked a lot about their guards and how they dig

895
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,159
in defensively. They're capable of scoring on a defensive end

896
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,800
in this game too, So a lot of pace, a

897
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,320
lot of scoring. I'll try the TCU side team total

898
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,199
up and over eighty four and a half.

899
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look not muted, all right?

900
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: Here we go.

901
00:48:22,119 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I like TCU in this matchup. I was

902
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,559
a little put off by the number being as high

903
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:31,280
as it was. I do think if this was bent

904
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,039
down a little bit, which it looks like it started to.

905
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:36,559
I think at opened nine, I did see it go

906
00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:39,920
to eight some places. I think you could probably if

907
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,679
this got down to seven or seven and a half,

908
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,079
I think I could probably be convinced to lay it

909
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:47,400
with TCU. Something I've said all year about TCU is

910
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,519
their they their guard, their perimeter defense. Those guards are

911
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:55,320
really as good as any in the conference. Will be

912
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,559
absolutely in your shorts great. I mean, go ask Florida

913
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,280
how that went for them when when Boogie flanned and

914
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,920
Xavier and Lee had to go up against those TCU guards, right,

915
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,119
and really really very unlucky to not have gotten one

916
00:49:08,159 --> 00:49:11,199
of those wins recently, the BYU game, the Kansas game,

917
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,679
I mean they had pretty much had Kansas beat another

918
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,599
tough you know, go back to that TCU Arizona game.

919
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:19,880
I think that I think that was on this floor.

920
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,360
They were only like a six. They went off like

921
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,480
six and a half point underdog to Arizona, which I

922
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,840
think was a lot lower than many expected. Now, not

923
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,280
going to fault you for losing and not covering to Arizona.

924
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,119
That's the number one team in the country. But but

925
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:35,400
the point is, like, I think there's a reason that

926
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,320
the books are pricing TCU where they are right eight

927
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,480
and a half point favorite. I think most people look

928
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,119
at that and say, man, that's a premium number, but

929
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:47,679
they probably have done you know, the odds makers have

930
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,960
probably done that for a reason. Oklahoma State will turn

931
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,719
it over and you know, if they if TCU can

932
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,400
really get to them with that ball pressure, there's there's

933
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,719
stops that turn any easy points to eat points help

934
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,360
your total and it probably helps them cover to spread.

935
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,000
So I lean toward the TCU side, and so I

936
00:50:06,039 --> 00:50:09,519
can't disagree with your team total over in this in

937
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:15,679
this game, all right? So Rob, you know we've got

938
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,039
two We've got two legs of the parlay locked in.

939
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,800
I'm gonna throw a game at you and you're gonna

940
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:25,440
all you have to do is tell me if you

941
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,119
have an opinion or not, and if you don't, we'll

942
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:29,679
move on to a different game. That's how we're going

943
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,000
to figure out the third leg. Here in the last

944
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:35,079
ten minutes is where our opinion lines up. So NC

945
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,000
State Clemson. Do you have an opinion or no, I

946
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,719
don't not affirm, Okay, do Caine. Saint Louis, I think

947
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,199
you may have said you do have an opinion?

948
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, I do.

949
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:50,679
Speaker 1: All right, let's see. Well, I mean, listen the Saint

950
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,519
Louis Billikins cracking the Top twenty five. We talked about

951
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:56,360
Miami of Ohio. I feel like we would be remiss

952
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,840
if we didn't give the Billikins their moment on the

953
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,000
show now that they're a top twenty five teams to

954
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:02,960
kick us off, and I'll let you know if I

955
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,360
agree or disagree. Saint Louis Dukane, Well.

956
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,639
Speaker 2: My opinion clearly here comes from a totals this offense

957
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:15,639
adam in this league. When did they play? They played

958
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,440
VCU a couple of weeks ago, right, I remember you

959
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:23,039
used the play in the parlay. They made VCU look

960
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,679
kind of middle of the package as far as A

961
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,679
ten is concerned. And ever since then they've done nothing

962
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:34,440
but destroy people. And nobody can stop this offense whatsoever

963
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,960
that Shirts has put together for Saint Louis. So a

964
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:40,679
couple of things I liked here because Dukane plays at

965
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,239
fast pace. I thought I like this game full game

966
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,840
to go over. I like the Saint Louis team total over.

967
00:51:46,519 --> 00:51:48,960
You know me, I'm not sides are going to be

968
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,239
secondary to me. If I had to play, I thought, maybe,

969
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,039
you know, Dukaine has the capability to score is probably

970
00:51:56,039 --> 00:51:58,039
what would scare me off of nine. But the other

971
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:01,400
part of my brain says, Saint Louis is just the

972
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,599
dominant force home road neutral anywhere in this league right now.

973
00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:10,239
So if you're coming from a side perspective with your opinion,

974
00:52:11,039 --> 00:52:13,920
I will lean your way. But total wise, I think

975
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,280
this full game gets over one sixty five and a half.

976
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,800
I'm looking at one sixty six now and I think

977
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,800
Saint Louis probably makes the ninety mark. But I would

978
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,039
want to include Dukine. I'll leave it at that. I

979
00:52:23,079 --> 00:52:26,159
would want to include Dukine and play full game over.

980
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. I actually think that that's the

981
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,320
best way to play this game, because, as you reference

982
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,280
the VCU Saint Louis game, that game was never really close.

983
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,400
VCU made a little bit of a run. I did

984
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,320
have Saint Louis as a best bet in that game.

985
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,159
The problem is you're you're going to have a hard

986
00:52:44,199 --> 00:52:46,679
time finding good spots to play Saint Louis on the

987
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,159
on the side, at this point, it's just that they're

988
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:53,440
they're now, they're nationally ranked in a league where they're

989
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,840
always going to be a favorite. So even though I think,

990
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,840
like Dukin here, I think they're likely going to win

991
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,440
this game, I don't know if I can see a

992
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:07,679
world where Dukane wins tonight unless they just go well,

993
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,000
I guess if Dukaine wins tonight, it means they went

994
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:14,159
absolutely nuclear offensively, that that's the only way they're winning

995
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,360
this game. So if you think Dukine's got enough juice

996
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,079
home game, nationally ranked team, which you know, they could

997
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,360
probably be one of their best crowds of the season,

998
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:28,400
it's likely going to be on the offensive end. It

999
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:33,440
probably means they're playing with their hair on fire, which

1000
00:53:33,519 --> 00:53:35,960
is good for pace, which they want to play fast anyway.

1001
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,800
And Rob, you know, let's just look at their A

1002
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,159
ten games to this point. The last two games like Fordham,

1003
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:44,239
that was a little bit of a you know, they

1004
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,079
kind of had to lead that whole game, and I

1005
00:53:46,119 --> 00:53:48,639
think I think Duquine knew that they could start to

1006
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,320
kill clock and like just kind of put Fordham away.

1007
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,639
Not a great offensive team. It's a big time transition

1008
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,199
year for Fordham, first year for Mike Magpao. Like that's

1009
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,840
just that was never really a game where I felt

1010
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,480
like they needed to go like totally like full bore.

1011
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:07,239
That one stays under. Dayton's pretty good defensively, Like that's

1012
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,159
that you know, when they're at full strength. And I

1013
00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:12,440
don't have offhand what their personnel was in that game,

1014
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,159
but that seventy one sixty five game stayed under as well.

1015
00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:19,480
And I think it was probably because you know, Dayton's

1016
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,960
was able to get some stops against Dukane and just

1017
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,079
sort of salt that win away the three previous games

1018
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:29,639
where Dukine was able to like sort of you know,

1019
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,360
ramp it up a little bit ninety seven ninety to

1020
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,679
Saint Joe's ninety three eighty to VCU, which of course

1021
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,000
we know now is a VCU team that's Phil Martelli junior,

1022
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,800
that's that wants to play like that a little bit,

1023
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,960
that's willing to go and beat you in a in

1024
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,639
a ninety to eighty type game, and then David's in

1025
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,280
eighty nine to eighty three. To me, this game feels

1026
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,559
more like those games than the last two, where like,

1027
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,679
I just don't know that Saint Louis is going to

1028
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,159
take the air out of the ball and just like

1029
00:54:57,519 --> 00:54:59,679
you know, be okay with trying to put you away

1030
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,960
on the like that, I think Saint Louis is just

1031
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,639
going to score until they can't score anymore. If they win,

1032
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,920
if they blow them out, it's probably because they got

1033
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:11,360
eighty plus close to ninety. So I'm good with the

1034
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,239
over here. I think it makes a lot of sense.

1035
00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:18,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, seventh fastest possession linked in the country. These two teams,

1036
00:55:18,639 --> 00:55:21,599
the third and fastest tempo inside conference. The games you

1037
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,199
referenced Adam where Ducane didn't score very well, Fordham Dayton.

1038
00:55:26,519 --> 00:55:30,239
They're all sluggish style offensive teams, and we often reference

1039
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,599
the fact that a fast paced team against a team

1040
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:37,159
that wants to just crawl can be affected by that.

1041
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,239
But when they're not affected, when you're going to play

1042
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,599
a team like Saint Louis that's gonna go get buckets.

1043
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,000
You know. It's the same thing Shirts did at Indiana

1044
00:55:45,079 --> 00:55:48,039
State with Robbie Avila when they went to the tournament.

1045
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:51,920
It's just an up and down team that can shoot.

1046
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,400
Saint Louis shoots it so well. We talked about Miami

1047
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,199
O being the number one team in the country affective

1048
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:00,480
field goal percentage. Saint Louis is three, so right there

1049
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:04,840
with them. The only reason I didn't isolate Saint Louis

1050
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,400
team total is because I do think Dukane, since they

1051
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,599
play rapid and nation well, I wouldn't want to exclude

1052
00:56:10,599 --> 00:56:14,199
them from the from the whole thing here, full game. Yeah.

1053
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: I even said the other day listen, Drew Joyce has

1054
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,880
done a great job with this Ducane team. I have.

1055
00:56:19,639 --> 00:56:23,079
I've come around on Ducane a little bit and him

1056
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:25,960
being a decent coach and and them being able to

1057
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,519
you know, if they're they're a functioning team, they can

1058
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:32,639
score the basketball and and yeah, I wouldn't want to

1059
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:34,679
take them out either. Again, I think it would take

1060
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:38,199
a herculean effort for them to win this game, but

1061
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,280
hanging around certainly, certainly possible. And then Robino, I think

1062
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,920
the more likely way they hang around would be, like

1063
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,239
if they're going to cover eight and a half, it's

1064
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,400
gonna be because they're in that like six to eight

1065
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,119
point range, which of course we know is extension. That

1066
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:56,960
that's the prime range for extension on a basketball game,

1067
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,880
So I'm with you. I actually I rarely like it

1068
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:02,800
total this much, but I really like this one. So yeah,

1069
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,559
that'll be the third leg of our parlay. What's the

1070
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:05,599
number on that right now?

1071
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:09,199
Speaker 2: I show if we shop at him, you can find

1072
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,480
sixty one sixty five and a half, but I think

1073
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,280
in the more common number is one sixty six. At

1074
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,840
this point, we can go with one sixty six.

1075
00:57:19,559 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll try a three team or today traditional

1076
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:28,000
three teamers six to one odds. I'll close the show

1077
00:57:28,039 --> 00:57:30,519
out with this and and Steve, this is like pretty

1078
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,559
much what I was saying in the breakdown of that game.

1079
00:57:32,599 --> 00:57:34,519
He says, I've got I got. The spread is good

1080
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:37,960
here too. I lean Bowling Green, but the spread is legit. Yeah,

1081
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:40,440
I think the number is fair, like six and a half.

1082
00:57:40,519 --> 00:57:42,440
I don't think like I'm getting. I don't think I've

1083
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,400
covered any any crazy like line edge. I just think

1084
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,039
Bowling Green is gonna This is me going back to

1085
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:52,280
the matchup, which is like something I'm probably gonna do

1086
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,320
more going forward. Similar to Hampton last night, I wasn't

1087
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,119
dying to lay five and a half with the Hampton Pirates,

1088
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,000
but it was just such a good matchup for them.

1089
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:03,079
They won the game by twenty. Bowling Green, I think

1090
00:58:03,079 --> 00:58:04,920
this is a really good matchup for them. I think

1091
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,840
they come out and win at least by ten. So

1092
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,039
that that's kind of what the point I was trying

1093
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:11,400
to make there. That is a three percent play for me.

1094
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:14,800
That will be the first leg of this part. Like

1095
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,400
Bowling Green minus six and a half, Rob Bino is

1096
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,840
going to go TCU team total over eighty four and

1097
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,280
a half and then to make it a three teamer.

1098
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,039
The consensus pick for Rob and I today Saint Louis

1099
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:31,519
Dukane over won sixty six a lot more where that

1100
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:34,559
came from. Five dollars. Tuesday will both have a playoff

1101
00:58:34,599 --> 00:58:37,360
for five bucks and of course the CBB double the

1102
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,440
Firepower package. You get all of my picks, all of

1103
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:43,760
Rob Bino's picks for three days. Anything we put out

1104
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:47,440
we have gotten in right at the eleven am gun,

1105
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:50,639
the powers that be will be thrilled and we'll be

1106
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:53,320
back tomorrow morning ten am for more full core press.

1107
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:53,960
See you guys then,