1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 my daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to dpeakclendershow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,839 much for your support. I want to welcome back to 10 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:33,960 the program. Senior writer for The Washington Examiner, syndicated columnist. 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 He's the author of a bunch of books as well. 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,200 He's a co host for a podcast. He's got a substack. 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:39,840 It's David Harsani. You welcome, David. 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: How are you. I'm well, thanks for having me. 15 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, absolutely so. Were you one of the media 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,320 types that got fooled that Joe Biden's cognitive decline was 17 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:54,679 actually happening or were you able to see through the 18 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:56,000 elaborate cover up? 19 00:00:57,759 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: I think I thought through it, but I wouldn't give 20 00:00:59,679 --> 00:01:01,840 myself too much credit. I don't think you have to 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,079 be immediate t I think most people saw it, so 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,840 I was not fooled, and I don't think maybe anyone 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,840 was actually fooled in the entire world. 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,239 Speaker 1: So this is one of the things that is most 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,359 offensive to me. I was a reporter, and I think 26 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,920 you were a reporter at one point as well. Right, yeah, so, 27 00:01:22,239 --> 00:01:25,159 and we've talked about some of the trade stuff. 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 2: But I. 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Thought part of the job of being a journalist was 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,280 to report on the things that you see. Like when 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,719 I would go cover a car crash or an apartment fire, 32 00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:38,439 I was the witness. I was telling people what I saw. 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,799 I don't know why Tapper and Thompson now in their 34 00:01:41,799 --> 00:01:45,079 book they're saying, well, we couldn't get this stuff confirmed. 35 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,599 But I thought confirmation would be your own eyes, the 36 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,040 witnessing of the events. 37 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean the very idea. I think one 38 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,920 of the best tools a person has being a journalist, 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,040 and many people who are journalists shouldn't be journalists, at 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,319 least in my view, is skepticism, which someone tells you 41 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:07,000 something that seems untrue. It's literally your job to try 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,319 to find out what is true, or to question what 43 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,560 the people in power are telling you. I noted this elsewhere, 44 00:02:13,599 --> 00:02:16,240 but the book Original Sin by Jake Tapper to me, 45 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,319 it's like I compare it to someone writing all the 46 00:02:20,319 --> 00:02:23,800 president's men but not naming any of the men. And 47 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,240 then it was written by John Erlickman. You know what 48 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,360 I'm saying. I mean, they were part of the cover up. 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,240 You know. Charlie Cook, who works at National View, made 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,479 a good point. You know, Jake Tapper says, we all 51 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,240 need to, you know, to really look into ourselves, even 52 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,360 he needs to do it. You know this, and that, Well, 53 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,719 why isn't a person who actually saw what was happening 54 00:02:43,719 --> 00:02:47,280 writing this book from the conservative media? You know, if 55 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,319 a conservative had written this book, no one would be 56 00:02:49,319 --> 00:02:51,719 interviewing them. They wouldn't be on any of the big shows. 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,479 So nothing really changes. They get to participate in these things, 58 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,520 then they get to make money off these things. There's 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,719 no reckoning, there's no names. He's you know, he's not 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,759 told us who who are the people who did this? 61 00:03:04,759 --> 00:03:07,759 This is, in my be one of the biggest scandals 62 00:03:07,759 --> 00:03:10,879 in presidential history, maybe since you know, Woodrow Wilson couldn't 63 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,360 perform his duties as president. So I don't know, I mean, 64 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,879 I agree it's a lot to cover. 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I've been calling it that for the better 66 00:03:18,719 --> 00:03:21,759 part of two years. It's the biggest political scandal maybe 67 00:03:21,759 --> 00:03:24,960 in American history, definitely within my lifetime. And I you know, 68 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,599 when I went to journalism school, I thought, man, that's 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,120 crazy that like the media helped cover up Woodrow Wilson 70 00:03:31,199 --> 00:03:34,840 and de FDR's infirmities and and you know John F. 71 00:03:34,919 --> 00:03:37,360 Kennedy and all of this stuff that that could never 72 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:40,960 happen now, right, And then I'm watching this unfold over 73 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,080 the last five years and it's like, oh my god, 74 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,479 it is happening again. And you know that have you read, 75 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,960 as you guess I should ask, have you read their book? 76 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Do you intend to read their book? 77 00:03:51,919 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: I have it, and I have kind of perused it. 78 00:03:54,719 --> 00:03:56,719 I can't say I've given it like a thorough read 79 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:02,080 or anything. And you know what I've read. You know, 80 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:04,719 if a normal reporter had written this, maybe it would 81 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:07,479 be an okay book. But when you're reading, you just 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,599 can't escape the looming fact that the person who wrote 83 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:15,680 it participated in it, you know. And and also that 84 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,000 it's kind of like a triangulation. You know, it's like 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,360 being brave when being brave doesn't matter. The moment that 86 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,680 Joe Biden debated Donald Trump. In that first debate, all 87 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,399 the media turned against Joe Biden. They didn't turn against 88 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:34,920 Joe Biden because they had some kind of ethical journalistic 89 00:04:35,439 --> 00:04:38,079 imperative to do it. They did it because they saw 90 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,680 he couldn't win, or they thought he couldn't win. And 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,920 so I don't even buy that they ever came around 92 00:04:43,959 --> 00:04:46,560 really for any good reason. They you know, if he 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,639 hadn't done that debate, they would have if he hadn't 94 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,240 debated Donald Trump, they would have continued the sham all 95 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,680 the way to election day, and if he had one, 96 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,879 they would have continued it into a second term, including 97 00:04:55,959 --> 00:04:58,839 Jake Tapper in my view, And until he actually comes 98 00:04:58,879 --> 00:05:02,600 out on some other issue against you know, in a 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,839 way that hurts the left, but you know, you know, 100 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,720 propels the truth, then I'll believe that he's changed. Or 101 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,240 until then I just think he's you know, it's just 102 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,680 a fraudulent position he's taking. 103 00:05:12,759 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, he just wishes he had covered it quote 104 00:05:14,959 --> 00:05:20,560 more aggressively, that's it more aggressively. Yeah, it's it is 105 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,560 pretty amazing. And then on top of all of that, 106 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,720 then we get the news that Joe Biden has cancer, 107 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:30,480 and I got into a little bit of trouble on 108 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,720 Monday when I said this, but I believe it, like 109 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,120 I don't trust the Bidens to tell me the truth 110 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,199 about their medical conditions. I'm sorry, but you don't get 111 00:05:40,519 --> 00:05:44,000 my default setting of, oh my gosh, that's awful, you know, 112 00:05:44,439 --> 00:05:47,879 because I don't know if this is actually true, and 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,519 I don't know if it's been true for a longer 114 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,920 period of time than just what last Friday. 115 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,879 Speaker 2: It's difficult to believe. Now, Listen, I think it's plausible 116 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,279 that a person after seventy doesn't get checked for this 117 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,279 sort of thing for various reasons. But here's the thing. 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,079 I agree with you. I would consider myself anti conspiratorial, 119 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,560 right right, And I would say that if you don't 120 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,879 look into this and you believe what they say, you 121 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,319 are totally advocating a responsibility as a journalist. I mean, 122 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:18,720 they have lied to you about everything. Everything that was 123 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,600 supposed to be a conspiracy theory, from Hunter's laptop to 124 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,240 his mental acuity and on and on. It all turned 125 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,199 out to be true. So we don't need to trust 126 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:29,079 a word that they're saying. We should never really trust 127 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,519 the word that they're saying. We should verify all these things. 128 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:35,600 We don't get complete medical records from the presence. You 129 00:06:35,639 --> 00:06:37,959 get summaries, and they have their own doctors, and there's 130 00:06:37,959 --> 00:06:39,959 no reason for me to trust them. I don't trust 131 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:42,319 anyone in government, and I think that's how every journalist 132 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:45,279 should act. You know, I'm trying to a journalism professor 133 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:46,839 or anything, but that's how I viewed the job. 134 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: That's how I viewed the job as well, and I 135 00:06:50,519 --> 00:06:53,120 don't think there are enough people that do anymore. And 136 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:55,519 one of the things that you talked about naming names, 137 00:06:56,439 --> 00:06:58,879 one of the things that struck me was the examples 138 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,360 that I've seen the book. I do not own it, 139 00:07:01,399 --> 00:07:04,000 I've not read it, I do not intend to read it, 140 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,639 but I don't want to give them any any money. 141 00:07:06,879 --> 00:07:10,560 But one of the stories was about this fake town 142 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:14,279 hall that they set up that Biden could not perform 143 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,480 well enough over the course of ninety minutes or so, 144 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,600 and so they never used any of the video from 145 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,000 the town hall. So okay, well, where are all of 146 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,279 those people, the people that were in that town hall. 147 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:28,959 They had to have seen how poorly Biden performed, and 148 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:34,600 nobody ever leaked anything. This makes me rethink all conspiracies Now, 149 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,199 like all of the conspiracy theories that I have dismissed, 150 00:07:37,399 --> 00:07:39,639 now I'm wondering, Okay, maybe maybe a lot of people 151 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,199 can keep a secret, how about you. 152 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:44,439 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's pretty incredible, right, And I thought 153 00:07:44,439 --> 00:07:47,240 about this as well, that we never got any leaks 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,199 of any of this stuff. In fact, when Robert Herr 155 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,360 very very politely called him an elderly man with a 156 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:56,720 poor memory and let him off the hook for something 157 00:07:56,759 --> 00:08:00,000 that the Biden administration was at that moment going out 158 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:05,079 to Donald Trump on classified document documents, he was completely 159 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,519 smeared across the media, across the White House, not one person. 160 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,160 And then the attorney general, the corrupt attorney general Biden's 161 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:18,240 was the name, Merrick Garland. Yeah, suppress the people from 162 00:08:18,279 --> 00:08:20,279 hearing the audio of that first track, I think, to 163 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,040 even suppress the transcript. So yeah, I mean it's crazy 164 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,439 everyone was in it because that's what they do for Democrats. 165 00:08:27,879 --> 00:08:30,800 And listen, I've never I've never had a huge problem 166 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,480 with people going aggressively after Donald Trump if they're telling 167 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,480 the truth. The problem for me has always been that 168 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,799 they don't go aggressively against Democrats. That's the that's the 169 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,440 real problem. I think with journalists, and yeah, I think 170 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,559 this is obviously maybe the best example that's ever existed 171 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:46,759 of that. 172 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, you write in this piece at the Washington Examiner headline, 173 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:54,480 the Biden cover up is one of the greatest scandals 174 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,879 in history. You say, yet not one person in the 175 00:08:56,879 --> 00:08:59,440 White House thought it was important enough to blow the whistle. 176 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,679 And this really is the problem, right, Like somebody is 177 00:09:02,879 --> 00:09:06,960 using the auto pen, somebody is signing this stuff on 178 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,039 which policies or executive orders, what bills? What was Joe 179 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,159 Biden actually signing? What was he competent enough to sign? 180 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,559 And if he wasn't doing it, then who was? And 181 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,240 it means you have all these people around the president 182 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,399 that did not think anything of doing this kind of activity, 183 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,639 and that's shocking to me. 184 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, they care about power more than their country. I mean, 185 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,559 that's the truth of it. And I know there's a 186 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,600 lot of partisanship out there and everyone protects their own 187 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,799 and all of that, but there comes a time where 188 00:09:38,799 --> 00:09:43,200 it becomes something so corrupt that it's mind boggling that 189 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,679 no one would would blow the whistle. I mean, think 190 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,679 about those pardons. There are retroactive ten year blanket pardons 191 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,000 for a bunch of people in his family, a bunch 192 00:09:53,039 --> 00:09:56,639 of his political allies. Maybe they came up with their 193 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:58,720 own pardons. We don't even know. I mean, there's not 194 00:09:58,759 --> 00:10:00,200 gonna be any way to sit in that cause you 195 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,000 could never really prove those things. I don't even know 196 00:10:02,039 --> 00:10:05,360 how you go about it. But that is corruption on 197 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,639 an incredible scale. And I think we're just a newer 198 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,559 to it because there's so much of it goes on. 199 00:10:10,799 --> 00:10:14,559 But you know, this makes I hate saying these words, 200 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,440 but it's so much worse than Watergate. It's not even funny, 201 00:10:17,639 --> 00:10:19,519 you know, right. I hate the people always say that, 202 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:20,000 but it is. 203 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think right now what we are 204 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:27,200 seeing is this effort to just move on. Okay, everybody, 205 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,600 do your maya culpis now, get them all in and then, 206 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,159 you know, launder the reputation and we're just going to 207 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,919 proceed right now. We're really going to hold you know, 208 00:10:33,919 --> 00:10:36,679 the president accountable, truth to power because it's the Orange Man, 209 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,840 and I think people see through it, and the media 210 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,799 gets everything that they deserve on this one. David, I 211 00:10:42,799 --> 00:10:45,480 appreciate your time as always. David Harsani is the senior 212 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,240 writer over at The Washington Examiner and you can read 213 00:10:48,279 --> 00:10:49,799 the latest piece. The Biden cover up is one of 214 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,159 the greatest scandals in history. Thanks David, I appreciate it. 215 00:10:52,159 --> 00:10:53,000 Good to talk with you again. 216 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: You too, anytime. All right, take care. 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A 239 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,039 great point that David Arsania made in this uh. In 240 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:11,440 this piece at the Washington Examiner, if Joe Biden had 241 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:17,000 skipped the presidential debate with Donald Trump, which he was 242 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,440 urged to do by many Democrats, they said, Oh, it's 243 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,279 because you know, you shouldn't be platforming a convicted felon. 244 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,080 Donald Trump is so terrible, you shouldn't be on a 245 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,360 stage with him in all of this. But Biden had 246 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,159 you know, they'd come out and issued this challenge, is 247 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,759 not even fit to care my golf clubs or whatever, 248 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:40,279 like they had. They had laid down the gauntlet. Trump 249 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,360 immediately agreed, and so it was on Nancy Pelosi urged 250 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,720 him not to do the debate. Why would they urge 251 00:12:49,759 --> 00:12:51,559 him not to do the debate? Was it for the 252 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,519 cover story reason? I'm not buying that. I think they 253 00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:56,320 were urging him not to do the debate because they 254 00:12:56,399 --> 00:12:59,679 knew the problems that he had. 255 00:13:03,159 --> 00:13:03,399 Speaker 2: Had. 256 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: He skipped that debate, right, he would have run again. 257 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:13,240 I mean, think about that. We would not have seen 258 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,480 what we saw the night of the debate. They no 259 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,159 doubt would have done the cover up throughout the next 260 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:25,480 election campaign cycle, and had he won, they would have 261 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:28,679 continued it into his second term. Right, this would not 262 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:35,120 have stopped but for that fateful debate performance and really 263 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:39,919 his agreement to do it, because remember they were like, oh, 264 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,799 he did the State of the Union speech and he 265 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:46,200 was so awesome and all of that, high on their 266 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,159 own supply. Get this now, this was Alex Thompson appearing 267 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,080 on News Nation the other day. I think when you 268 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,240 were reporting this, did people in his inner circle? Did 269 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,600 those that you talked to acknowledge that the media where 270 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,080 they suppor by how complicit the media was. 271 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: It was interesting. 272 00:14:03,039 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: I had one conversation with someone, this was after the election, 273 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:12,480 while we were reporting this book, and this person said, listen, yes, 274 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:13,200 we deserve. 275 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: Blame for X y Z. 276 00:14:14,519 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: We were hiding him, we were, But this person also 277 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,440 sort of got on my face and they said, listen, 278 00:14:19,639 --> 00:14:23,799 the media deserves some blame too. Like we were sort 279 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:26,200 of amazed at some of the stuff we were able 280 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:29,639 to spin went on, They in some way like the 281 00:14:29,679 --> 00:14:33,440 bank Robert complaining safe, wasn't they're just like you guys, 282 00:14:33,559 --> 00:14:36,279 You guys should not have believed us so easily. And 283 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,080 I thought that was like a really interesting But I 284 00:14:38,159 --> 00:14:40,559 also think that's true. I think I think the media 285 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,600 in a lot of ways just was not skeptical enough 286 00:14:45,639 --> 00:14:49,200 and did not remember the lesson that they do it 287 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:49,919 to different degrees. 288 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: But every White House lies. 289 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,759 Speaker 1: Right, Every White House lies. That is true. By the way, 290 00:14:55,519 --> 00:14:58,279 every White House lies. They all are doing stuff that 291 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,320 they don't want people to know about. It's government, okay, 292 00:15:01,759 --> 00:15:03,559 no matter who's in office. If you think that the 293 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:06,240 Trump administration that people aren't lying in that White House, 294 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,159 you're crazy. Of course they are. And again, this was 295 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,559 my argument in the last election campaign cycle, where I said, 296 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,519 for the first time in my adult life, I will 297 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,320 vote for a major party candidate for president. I had 298 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,360 always used that race as a protest vote, and I 299 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,240 had never voted for a Democrat or Republican. And I 300 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:32,120 voted for Trump precisely because of this, that the media 301 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:39,759 is unable or unwilling to hold Democrat presidents accountable. They 302 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:43,720 do not have skepticism for Democrats in that White House 303 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,799 or anywhere really, but they do not have this level 304 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:54,200 of skepticism, and the Biden people basically mocking them. We 305 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,279 couldn't believe how stupid you are, Like, that's what they said. 306 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,679 I can't believe we got away with this stuff. We 307 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:04,159 said these really stupid things to you guys, and you 308 00:16:04,159 --> 00:16:09,600 were like, oh okay. Meanwhile, As Reclined, New York Times 309 00:16:09,639 --> 00:16:14,759 columnist claimed during a podcast that mainstream media outlets could 310 00:16:14,759 --> 00:16:18,159 not get sources to verify whether President Joe Biden's health 311 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,120 was in decline during his presidency. He defended the press, 312 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:25,960 saying sources reluctance to speak out prevented coverage. Quote, there 313 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,200 are a lot of failures in this book, and certainly 314 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,720 the news media. It's hard to argue that we were 315 00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:33,919 on top of this, Jake Tapper said, and as Recline replied, 316 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:36,720 it was harder to get people to say anything, and 317 00:16:36,799 --> 00:16:39,639 it's hard to get I mean, you need evidence for stories, 318 00:16:39,679 --> 00:16:42,519 but we're trying to crack this. Oh that's what it was. 319 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:42,879 Speaker 2: They were. 320 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: Oh they were so close. They just couldn't get it 321 00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:53,240 verified that Joe Biden wandered off while on camera, right. 322 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:55,759 They I just couldn't get that verified. I mean I 323 00:16:55,799 --> 00:16:58,600 saw it happen, but nobody in the White House would 324 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,919 tell me, Yes, that did happen, and so I just 325 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:05,519 can't do the story. It's man so difficult. News Nation 326 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,240 host Chris Cuomo of All People said that the book itself, 327 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,559 Original Sin, is a cover up of the media's political 328 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:16,839 bias in favor of Biden over Trump. 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They said 357 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,920 something in that Megan Kelly interview that the mainstream media 358 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:59,599 viewed Trump as such an existential threat to democracy that 359 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,640 they didn't want to question any of this stuff. About 360 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Biden that one of Biden's top people said he had 361 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,640 to run because he's the only one that could beat Trump. Yeah, 362 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,720 they did say that. They talked about how they had 363 00:19:12,079 --> 00:19:18,359 the Biden world had created this, this image or this 364 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:23,920 narrative in their own minds that only Joe Biden saved 365 00:19:24,039 --> 00:19:27,000 America from Trump and only Joe could do it. Again, 366 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,200 we should view Trump's media coverage through the same lens. 367 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,680 What they what they won't or what won't they do 368 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:41,359 against Donald Trump? Right, they viewed him, they viewed the media. 369 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,359 So many in the media viewed Donald Trump as this 370 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:49,880 existential threat that anything is excusable. Right when and I've 371 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,039 been saying this for years, as long as they've been 372 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:56,799 calling Trump Hitler worse than Hitler. Like, if you're calling 373 00:19:56,839 --> 00:20:01,599 somebody that, then it opens the door for any amount 374 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:07,839 of actions, illegal or legal that you can mount because 375 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:13,799 you're trying to save America from Hitler. Right, This was 376 00:20:13,839 --> 00:20:16,799 the whole problem with the punch a Nazi thing that 377 00:20:16,839 --> 00:20:20,400 the leftists were doing. Right, and a Nazi is defined 378 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:27,279 as anybody that disagrees with me as a leftist. Let 379 00:20:27,279 --> 00:20:34,079 me see here, I have some emails, Philip says, subject 380 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,160 zombie Joe. On top of all the confirmation of Joe 381 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,880 Biden's mental decline is the fact that for the debate, 382 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,359 he had been given the questions in advance. 383 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: Was he. 384 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was true. Little wonder that Clooney, Pelosi, 385 00:20:49,519 --> 00:20:53,559 Obama at al. Went mollistic over Biden's performance, like how 386 00:20:53,559 --> 00:20:55,880 do you mess it up when you practiced and rehearsed 387 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,519 the script? So yeah, I don't know if that was true. 388 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:04,359 He did get questions and answers before his press conferences, 389 00:21:04,799 --> 00:21:07,000 the like two that he held in the entire term. 390 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,440 And by the way, nobody in the media in this 391 00:21:10,599 --> 00:21:15,079 moment of reckoning, nobody has has copped to that yet. 392 00:21:15,839 --> 00:21:19,039 There aren't any reporters out there saying, yeah, I submitted 393 00:21:19,039 --> 00:21:22,079 my question ahead of time so I would be able 394 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:24,119 to ask the question and be on TV at this 395 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,400 press conference. And look how important I am. You know, 396 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:30,640 we have the still shots from over the shoulder where 397 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,920 you can see he's got the card with the reporter's name, 398 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,920 their outlet, a picture of the reporter and the question 399 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,119 and then his answer. He had note cards about it, 400 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,680 and he would talk about it. Give me the list 401 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,279 of people to call on here. I don't want to 402 00:21:46,319 --> 00:21:50,319 get in trouble. Right, Bill says, did you notice the 403 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:56,680 obvious absence of those two prolific yet magic words and 404 00:21:56,799 --> 00:22:01,680 Jake Tapper's reporting on the robust Joe Biden quote without evidence? 405 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? 406 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: They throw that without evidence all the time into news 407 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,599 stories about Donald Trump. Donald Trump said without evidence, blah 408 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,759 blah blah, and they never say it. They never do 409 00:22:11,799 --> 00:22:15,880 that with Joe Biden. This is why nobody believes the 410 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,839 purpose of this book is to find out what really happened. No, 411 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:26,400 it's reputational laundering. Rich says, Pete enjoy the show. Tapper's 412 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,000 claim that he did not know only leaves two conclusions. 413 00:22:30,319 --> 00:22:37,680 Either he is stupid and lazy, or he is a liar. Well, now, Rich, 414 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,839 he could be both. I don't think that's I don't 415 00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:41,720 think it's an either, or he could be all of 416 00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:48,279 the above. Tim says, I'm now calling Tapper joke Tapper 417 00:22:50,319 --> 00:22:54,640 or Jake the fake fake. Jake Tapper heard that his 418 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,440 credibility is all shot, as if he had any to 419 00:22:57,599 --> 00:23:02,920 start with. Here's one from DG who says the only 420 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,440 way Jake Tapper would have been able to redeem himself 421 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,920 would be to expose with evidence and names of who 422 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,680 was actually running things on a daily basis, who made 423 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,720 each major decision in the Biden White House, and who 424 00:23:13,759 --> 00:23:16,440 should be held accountable by facing charges. We know that 425 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,319 people involved know the answer, and a real reporter would 426 00:23:19,319 --> 00:23:21,160 find out. He will never do that because he is 427 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,519 still a Democrat Party shill and his book is just 428 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:34,519 an attempt to cover up that fact. That's too long, 429 00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:37,079 I can't read it. I agree one hundred percent that 430 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,039 the Biden cover up of his mental state was by 431 00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:42,079 far the biggest cover up. Ever, I have to add 432 00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:47,799 that the second biggest cover up, simultaneously occurred and perpetuated 433 00:23:47,799 --> 00:23:50,079 by the same pool of liars, was that the border 434 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,359 was always secure. Combined, we get a two or one 435 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,839 on the worst cover ups, should get some sort of 436 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,880 special award at GITMO. Well, you know, I just I 437 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:07,920 roll it all together, right, It's just it's just amazing 438 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,799 and to watch it be perpetuated, and as David Harsani 439 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:16,720 said at the beginning of the hour, that you know, 440 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:21,400 where are the book deals for the conservative reporters that 441 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,839 were actually covering this. Peter Deucey didn't get a he 442 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,240 didn't get a book deal, and Deucey was asking these 443 00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:31,440 questions for the entire term. He didn't get a book deal. 444 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,440 Nobody that's written about this stuff has gotten a book deal. 445 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,640 Jake Tapper gets the book deal. 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Mail orders 467 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,160 are accepted to get all the details that createavideo dot com. 468 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,519 Alrighty so. Charlotte City Council Member Juanna Brown and her 469 00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:08,440 two daughters adults, were indicted today on federal charges for 470 00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:14,000 allegedly defrauding COVID nineteen relief programs to obtain more than 471 00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:18,119 one hundred and twenty four thousand dollars in pandemic aid. 472 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,559 Story by Nate Morabito at WCNC dot Com WCNC Television. 473 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,160 According to a release provided by the DOJ, Councilwoman Brown 474 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,359 and her two daughters are charged with conspiracy to commit 475 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:38,720 wire fraud and wirefraud. So they did not just conspire 476 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:40,960 to do it, but they did it as well. I 477 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,759 mean according to a grand jury. And a grand jury. 478 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:47,720 You know, prosecutors can indict a ham sandwich in a 479 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,400 grand jury setting because the defense is not present, right, 480 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,599 they call in the grand jury, they present them with 481 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,160 this evidence, and then the grand jury says, yeah, we 482 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:02,119 think there's enough to prosecute them with. And so that's 483 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,839 what has happened. She has held a news conference where 484 00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:08,440 she said she didn't do anything wrong except maybe she 485 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,960 didn't like look at the documents, the applications or whatever 486 00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:16,160 closely enough, but I don't know. The evidence looks pretty bad. 487 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,799 You've got multiple applications being filed within like well two 488 00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,759 of them were filed within minutes of each other. Identical 489 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:35,799 gross revenue numbers were used, and yeah, yeah filing with 490 00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,960 was it to schedule see tax documents that actually were 491 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:46,279 not real. Brown's released a statement this morning saying the 492 00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:50,599 alleged events happened years ago. Yes, during the pandemic. I 493 00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:53,720 remember I was alive during that pandemic. I survived the pandemic, 494 00:27:54,839 --> 00:27:57,200 So yes, I remember that. It was only like it 495 00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:00,480 was only five years ago, four five years ago. So 496 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,160 she says it has nothing to do with her time 497 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,920 on city council because she was only elected this past election, 498 00:28:09,079 --> 00:28:11,200 so two years ago, a year and a half ago, 499 00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:16,920 and she is running for reelection. She says this is 500 00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:25,799 a deliberate effort to interfere with her reelection, which no, 501 00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,400 it would. It would be a deliberate attempt to prosecute 502 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,519 you for crimes that the federal government believes you committed 503 00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:39,079 in trying to defraud us taxpayers, right to the tune 504 00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:42,039 of like one hundred and twenty something thousand dollars. She 505 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,920 says that she had repaid like twenty something thousand dollars 506 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,920 and that's all that was her part of it. That's 507 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,640 all she was required to pay back. So she settled 508 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,720 all of this already. But yeah, no, they're like, it's 509 00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:59,640 over one hundred and twenty k. She says that she 510 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,079 is to keep running for reelection, but we'll see what 511 00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:06,039 happens there. We'll see if anybody jumps into a primary 512 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,880 against her, and if she survives through that primary, then 513 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,599 I guess we'll find out whether the voters of District 514 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,279 III would prefer to have an indicted council member representing them, 515 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,839 And given what I have seen over the recent history 516 00:29:22,839 --> 00:29:27,160 of Charlotte, the answer might very well be yes. She 517 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,160 called it a deliberate effort to interfere with the election. 518 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,279 Brown served four years in federal prison for a felony 519 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:39,079 fraud conviction. Back in the nineteen nineties. It's never the 520 00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:43,400 ones you suspect. You know, who could have predicted that 521 00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:48,200 somebody who went to federal prison for fraud for four 522 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:52,559 years might engage in fraud at some other point in 523 00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:56,359 the future. Yeah, it's a it's just a shock. The 524 00:29:56,359 --> 00:30:00,279 indictment claims the group filed at least fifteen fraudulent loan 525 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,160 applications between April twenty twenty and September twenty twenty one, 526 00:30:05,319 --> 00:30:10,880 using fake tax forms and false documentation. I think the 527 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,119 kids call those receipts. Federal prosecutors say the money was 528 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,640 used for personal spending, including fifteen thousand dollars for a 529 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:25,559 birthday party for herself. I don't even know how you 530 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:34,200 spend fifteen thousand dollars on a birthday party. Luckily they 531 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,599 outline how that happened. She apparently rented like a horse 532 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:45,920 and carriage, a throne. Yeah, thirty five hundred dollars for 533 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,880 the venue, five grand on catering, twenty three one hundred 534 00:30:52,000 --> 00:31:00,200 dollars on balloons, a rose wall, a throne, and a 535 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:06,240 strong carriage Like this is you know what? This reminds 536 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:12,359 me of the Loomis Fargo heist. Happened right around the 537 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:17,119 corner the we had the Loomis shop or whatever right 538 00:31:17,119 --> 00:31:19,039 around the corner from the station here, like I could 539 00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:22,799 see it from the studio window. And yeah, they stole 540 00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:25,720 all of this money from the from the armored vehicle. 541 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,400 They had a man on the inside. They stole all 542 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,720 of the money and then they just started spending it 543 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,880 over there in Cramerton, right, They started just spending it. 544 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,720 They bought all sorts of crazy stuff, buying cash, using 545 00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:39,000 cash for cars and mansions and stuff. And it was 546 00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:40,920 kind of a dead giveaway that they had come into 547 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,319 a lot of money. Like I said, it's never the 548 00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:47,839 ones you suspect. All right, that'll do it for this episode. 549 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,960 Thank you so much for listening. I could not do 550 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,160 the show without your support and the support of the 551 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,200 businesses that advertise on the podcast, So if you'd like, 552 00:31:55,359 --> 00:31:57,440 please support them too and tell them you heard it here. 553 00:31:57,599 --> 00:32:00,000 You can also become a patron at my Patreon page 554 00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:03,799 or go to thepetecleanershow dot com. Again, thank you so 555 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,240 much for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.