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<v Speaker 1>It's stick Gabriel taking a little bit of time off,

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<v Speaker 1>so we thought we would replay some of the best

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<v Speaker 1>interviews from over the last several months. Please enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the Big Blue Insider. Joining us now for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time on these airwaves is Kentucky coach Lonnie

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<v Speaker 1>Green track and field cross country as well, and coach Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank you very much. I really, really sincerely appreciate.

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<v Speaker 1>What a busy time, but a glorious time for UK

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<v Speaker 1>track and field right now heading into the Games. I

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<v Speaker 1>got to think you're just about as excited as the athletes,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey man, I think I think I'm as excited ass

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<v Speaker 2>as the young baby old Christmas morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me a little bit about your role going into

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<v Speaker 1>these games with some of these athletes, some you coach,

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<v Speaker 1>some you didn't, But of course they're wildcats forever and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll represent UK in one way, shape or form in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>But but what is your role right now?

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<v Speaker 2>My role is an individual coach. I think when when

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<v Speaker 2>when people see the they see the Olympic team, especially

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<v Speaker 2>in track and field, they see the Olympic team and

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<v Speaker 2>and and and and and the media will say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here is then mister Gabriel, he's the Olympic coach. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just basically that coach entitle Okay, and and and

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<v Speaker 2>the way we look at the sport, that is the

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<v Speaker 2>highest honor in our sport that a coach could could

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<v Speaker 2>could ascend to to being named the Olympic coach. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But our sport is comprised of twenty two disciplines, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>two events, and in each and each each country can

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<v Speaker 2>tend three or three athletes per event. Now, each of

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<v Speaker 2>those individuals have their own individual coach. My job going

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<v Speaker 2>to the Olympic Games is going to to coach Messiah

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<v Speaker 2>Russell and Devin Charlton. You know, that's that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be my job. Get them to the podium. My job

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<v Speaker 2>is when started this in September, is to get them

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<v Speaker 2>to the podium in any which way, shape, form or fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. So I'm going to as as a personal coach.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be with the US contingent, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be that coach. I'm going to be responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>when they wake up, when they when they eat, when

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<v Speaker 2>they train, when and when they lay down and I

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<v Speaker 2>make sure they get to the track one time, they

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<v Speaker 2>do everything they need to do. Tell what be called

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<v Speaker 2>championship day.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, that's pressure, isn't it. Although that's notice that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you signed up for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is pressure. But that's what we all time to

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<v Speaker 2>when you get to the level.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just remembered there were many, many years

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<v Speaker 1>ago one of the Olympics there were some athletes who

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<v Speaker 1>missed their events because the coach didn't get them up

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<v Speaker 1>on time or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it exactly exactly you know what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember that, yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know? Basically our job is when we get

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<v Speaker 2>there to make sure everything flows. You know, communication with

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<v Speaker 2>the USATF staff has got to be consistent that everything flows.

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<v Speaker 2>An odd job is to take as much stress of

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<v Speaker 2>the student athlete, of the athlete as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting when you're saying this. In my world,

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me. You know who does that is a great producer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was told I've been on the air, and

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<v Speaker 1>I've been a producer, and I was told early in

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<v Speaker 1>my career that if you can take stress off of

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<v Speaker 1>a play by play man and just let him concentrate

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<v Speaker 1>on calling a game. You've done a good job as

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<v Speaker 1>a producer. You're taking stress off these athletes. So all

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<v Speaker 1>they got to do is look down the track. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's it. That's our job. That's our job

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<v Speaker 2>once we get them to that space, is to make

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<v Speaker 2>it as stressless or as seamless as possible. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so that their job is just to wake up, warm up,

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<v Speaker 2>and get ready to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously that will help them block out whatever's around them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know they're literally world class athletes, so when

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<v Speaker 1>they step into the blocks, they won't think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Paris at the Olympics. I could win a medal.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at all these people, they're looking at the finish line.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yes, sir, Yes, sir. There's a lot of pressure

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<v Speaker 2>on that. As I refer to all of them as babies.

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<v Speaker 2>So these young befits, you know, as they get to

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<v Speaker 2>that place, there's a lot of pressure on those babies,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the ones who who who the media now plays

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<v Speaker 2>up to the to the world that's a favorite or

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<v Speaker 2>Olympic medalist or potential gold medalist. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>pressure that comes with this. My brother used to say

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. He said, pressure bus pipes, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and so so at the end of the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of pressure. They look really relaxed, they

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<v Speaker 2>look real focused, but there's a lot of pressure that

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<v Speaker 2>they're dealing with in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine how they sleep the night before.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, most of them struggle to do that. So

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<v Speaker 2>what Sometimes they'll have to go to the team doctors

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<v Speaker 2>just to get a sleeve dad so that they can

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, I said, a little mellowtonin might help, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but pressure also the oak cliche turns coal into diamonds.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, something I've always wanted to ask a

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<v Speaker 1>track and field coach is when you're coaching a sprinter.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously there's technique involved and strategy involved, but there's more

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<v Speaker 1>to it to tay get out there and run as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as you can. Just how technical do you get

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<v Speaker 1>in events like that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's very technical, you know, But I think the mistake

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<v Speaker 2>that coaches make is they try to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>technical component first, and that's the mistake. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>literally get the athletes fit, get them physically stronger, get

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<v Speaker 2>them faster, and then you bring the technical component along

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<v Speaker 2>that everybody wants to go straight to technique. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>you get coaches talk about speed, Oh, we got to

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<v Speaker 2>work speed. You see a lot of you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>specialists around come to me and I can get you faster,

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<v Speaker 2>and they goes the minute the young man or woman

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<v Speaker 2>or the baby comes to them, they go straight speed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a mistake in my humble opinion, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, And you have to get them fit, get

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<v Speaker 2>them strong, and get the body ready to handle those stresses.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens is you go straight to the stress and

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<v Speaker 2>an injury recur and occur. Preferfully, the injury won't won't

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<v Speaker 2>be one that's going to take them out for a

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<v Speaker 2>long period of time, you know what I mean, like

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<v Speaker 2>a tone, hamstring or or or something that serious. You

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<v Speaker 2>know that sometimes that even surgery will have to be

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<v Speaker 2>done to correct it, you know what I mean. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think the mistake is, Yes, they do a good

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<v Speaker 2>job of getting the kids faster, but you got to

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<v Speaker 2>you have to literally prepare the body to handle the

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<v Speaker 2>stress that comes with sprinting or moving that fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to Kentucky, yes, Kentucky track and field coach Lonnie

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<v Speaker 1>Green who's helping prepare some former Wildcat and current Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>for the Olympic Games coming up up. You mentioned prep work,

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<v Speaker 1>and we hear a lot from the football and basketball

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<v Speaker 1>really in baseball people too about nutrition, and I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>about I got to think it's it's pretty much the

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<v Speaker 1>same for all the UK athletes on campus. But I

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<v Speaker 1>know that they've put a lot of time and resources

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<v Speaker 1>into nutrition and the weight room and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about that on campus?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's phenomenal. I mean, you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you can buy a Lamborghini and put

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<v Speaker 2>low off team gasses. You got to put highfting gases,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. You know what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>happen to the engine. The engines will start knocking it eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube will fail, you know what I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't put the right fuel into that into that engine.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the commitment that that mister Bonnhart are

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<v Speaker 2>athletic director and president Capaluto and all of our senior

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<v Speaker 2>staff are made to our student athlete, our student athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>that is that is paramount. If you want to compete

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<v Speaker 2>at a very high level, those things have to be

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<v Speaker 2>in place. We the old older folk with oh it,

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<v Speaker 2>don't take all of that. Oh I was doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. We didn't do this and we didn't do that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that has some merit, but we didn't perform at the

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<v Speaker 2>level of these some people. What I always want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you very knowledgeable guys.

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<v Speaker 1>What I always want to say is okay, but what

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<v Speaker 1>if you had done that? How much better might you

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<v Speaker 1>have been? I know you drank pickle juice when you

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<v Speaker 1>were getting cramps, but you know, yes, sir, you've heard that, haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, but I think the commitment that the

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<v Speaker 2>commitment that mister Barnhout is, it's made to our athletic

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<v Speaker 2>department in terms of providing every possible thing that he

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<v Speaker 2>believes our student athletes need. But our senior staff believe

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<v Speaker 2>our student athletes need to be successful, not a second

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<v Speaker 2>to none. But you can't compete in any sport, and

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<v Speaker 2>I repeat that again, any sport at a very high

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<v Speaker 2>level if those things aren't in place. I said, you

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<v Speaker 2>can compete, but it might not be might not be fruital.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, we're talking with Lonnie Green, UK head track and

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<v Speaker 1>field coach. He's got athletes going to Paris. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the best of the Big Blue Insider. More to

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<v Speaker 1>come here on six thirty w LAP. It's Dick Gabriel.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Lonnie Green is the head track and

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<v Speaker 1>field coach at the University of Kentucky also cross country,

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<v Speaker 1>and as of July, first seven UK Wildcats from track

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<v Speaker 1>and field will make the trip to Paris. Has that

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<v Speaker 1>number changed, Coach, No.

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<v Speaker 2>It's remained consistent.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so u K had four champions at the US

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<v Speaker 1>Olympic Team trials. And by the way, we have you

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<v Speaker 1>and I have spoken now for nine and a half

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and I haven't usually our word yet. Recruiting, this

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<v Speaker 1>has got to be the ultimate recruiting tool, I would think,

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<v Speaker 1>Am I right?

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<v Speaker 2>It is? It is? I mean if if me being

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<v Speaker 2>the head coach, you know, being the director of the program,

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<v Speaker 2>if if I don't capitalize, well we as a department,

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<v Speaker 2>as an institution, don't capitalize on the moment, we will

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<v Speaker 2>lose a very, very, a great opportunity to attract athletes

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Massiah Russell class at twenty twenty three and

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<v Speaker 1>she I remember I was on a panel discussion show

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<v Speaker 1>on KAT with Miss Barnhardt and we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>social media and he's mentioned her name before. She was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the first UK athlete, no matter what the sport,

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<v Speaker 1>men or women, to really build a following on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about her that that people just gravitate

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<v Speaker 2>She's got what She's got what I call a very

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<v Speaker 2>gregarious personality, you know what I mean. She is one

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<v Speaker 2>who she understands the social media platform. She understands that

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<v Speaker 2>she was there was something she was doing when she

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<v Speaker 2>You stay that, don't let what people think you should

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<v Speaker 1>She won the US championship in one hundred meter hurdles

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<v Speaker 1>and at a world leading time, and broke Gail Dever's

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<v Speaker 2>She she's one of the favorites. She is the She's

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. Is she going in as

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<v Speaker 2>one of the favorites. Yes, I personally believe. Now people

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<v Speaker 2>She that particular race with the field that would be

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that would be awesome. It's broken the collegiate record

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<v Speaker 1>being chosen to carry the flag for Puerto Rico. What

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<v Speaker 2>Jazzy Jazz, that's what I call all the time. When

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<v Speaker 2>I say I call it jazzy jazz. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know she is probably one of the most humble individuals

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<v Speaker 2>you would have a meet. She's very aggressive and then

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<v Speaker 2>when it's time to compete. You think she's being difficult,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's just what great athletes do. When it's time

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<v Speaker 2>to do the work, when it's time to to to

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean. We all can go back

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<v Speaker 2>to high school and even college and you there's a

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<v Speaker 2>peer or a friend that they were great great and

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<v Speaker 2>the minute the lights come on, they become we will say, man,

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<v Speaker 2>becomes an animal. That's what you see with jazz. But

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, once she's done working

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<v Speaker 2>you could have a think of, well imagine So for

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<v Speaker 2>her country is Olympic Federation to ask her to be

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<v Speaker 2>as a flag at the opening ceremonies. That's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest honor any athlete or any person in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>could be asked to do. To That's where national pride

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<v Speaker 2>don't care where you're from you can be from. She

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<v Speaker 2>brought in the corner of the east corner of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But they say, we want you to bear the flag,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? In this particular situation, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the greatst honor one could, one of the greatest honors

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<v Speaker 2>one could could be asked to do the service of

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<v Speaker 1>She made her debut in Brazil in twenty sixteen and

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred meter hurdles and then yeah, helped Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 1>win its first Olympic gold medal in the same event

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<v Speaker 1>in the delayed Tokyo Games. So yeah, she's she's a

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know that there was no overlap between

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<v Speaker 2>was done with her eligibility. You know, she graduated in

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<v Speaker 2>December of twenty eighteen. She still had a year of eligibility,

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<v Speaker 2>but she she opted out of that and went pro,

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<v Speaker 2>with Sydney. Of course, they wanted to go pro out

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<v Speaker 2>high school, you know what I mean. But she opted

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<v Speaker 2>to pursue the professional round. You know, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>got to tip your hat to Edward Floiell, my predecessor. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he had some very very good I mean, some of

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<v Speaker 2>the most the greatest talents in the world. In that event.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at Kenny Harrison, who was the world's record

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<v Speaker 2>All of those wore UK on the chest, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So you have to tip your hat

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<v Speaker 2>to the work he did prior to us getting here.

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<v Speaker 2>What we have done, thanks to be the God that

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<v Speaker 1>You have a freshman from Nigeria and I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>could say it I'm sure, but Alexander helped me with

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Alexander, thank you excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>But his opportunity to take part in events like this,

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<v Speaker 1>in international events, I've got to think that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>set him up even more for a great collegiate career.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so he's just a freshman. As I refer

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<v Speaker 2>had a young man here by the name of Daniel

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<v Speaker 2>and he just ran twelve point ninety six. It's only

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<v Speaker 2>a very hand few handful of men, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>You were part of that great, great tradition and culture

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<v Speaker 1>at Arkansas as an assistant coach there. You went to Purdue,

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<v Speaker 1>did a phenomenal job, and Mitch Barnhart pulled you to

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<v Speaker 1>Lexington and as you mentioned that there was a great

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<v Speaker 1>foundation here and you said about building on that, what

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<v Speaker 1>has that process been like for you here in Lexington?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's the support, you know. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I would present a presentation to to Mitch and his

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<v Speaker 2>usually his response to me is responsibly would normally be

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<v Speaker 2>is this good for kids? Is this good for young people?

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<v Speaker 2>And I usually would say yes. He said this this

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<v Speaker 2>does this help us to be successful? My response is

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<v Speaker 2>usually yes. And he said, let me see what I

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<v Speaker 2>can do make this happen for you. And he's done that.

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<v Speaker 2>They can toil and be. But when you guess what

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<v Speaker 2>of outpouring. You know, everything you touch turns to go.

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<v Speaker 2>You could think about it and it has become successful.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? And so and I think

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<v Speaker 2>what miss has allowed us, allowed me and my staff

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<v Speaker 2>people have asked me, well, Alanie, what would you entertained anything?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, no, I said, Mitch would have me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>he can put me out the pastor yet I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to look at the next jingling keys. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>if he would allow me to do it, then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still working and we're successful. It would be this is

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm gonna go out to pasture and this when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna look at my wife at sixty five and said,

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<v Speaker 1>You know that sounded like a plan. I tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was growing up in Louisville, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>well for the UK people. And in fact, my nephew,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it is. It's you know, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know about other sports. I never claimed to know other sports.

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<v Speaker 2>I've participated in other sports, but truck and feel like

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know, but but it's an addiction and

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<v Speaker 2>the seat. In my mind, that's what track brings to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you wake up, you lay it down a night

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<v Speaker 2>You live it, Dave, you know there's something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Coach, Thank you so much for your time. I know

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<v Speaker 1>your time is valuable right now as your prayer to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Paris. Safe travels and we'll do it again soon,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so very much. I appreciate you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for listening to the Best of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider. More to come here on six thirty w LAP.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Dick Gabriel. Welcome back to the Best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. We have talked more than once with

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Gibbons about his memoir that is just being released,

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<v Speaker 1>and he always directs us to his co author Doug Brunk,

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<v Speaker 1>who's on our celebrity hotline. Doug Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, Dick C. Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. Jack has said repeatedly that he was apprehensive about

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<v Speaker 1>this and then you encouraged him. Tell me why you

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<v Speaker 5>that out. At the beginning of the COVID pandemic, I

422
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<v Speaker 5>got a little restless and was looking for a creative

423
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<v Speaker 5>project to take on to sort of get my mind

424
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<v Speaker 5>off of what was happening around me and everybody else.

425
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<v Speaker 5>You know, that was an existential time, but it proved

426
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<v Speaker 5>to turn out be a great time to start working

427
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<v Speaker 5>on a book because he couldn't really you know, be

428
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<v Speaker 5>around people, and so we did a lot of phone work.

429
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<v Speaker 5>But I reached out to Jack emailed him about this.

430
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<v Speaker 5>You know, I've always I've worked with him on my

431
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<v Speaker 5>two previous books, and he just strikes me as you know,

432
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<v Speaker 5>not only an iconic figure in UK basketball, but his

433
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<v Speaker 5>consistent positivity. You spend a little time around him, you know,

434
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<v Speaker 5>it's kind of remarkable. He's kind of a magnet for people,

435
00:22:37.480 --> 00:22:40.599
<v Speaker 5>but he also shines a light on people. You know,

436
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<v Speaker 5>he takes time, he looks you in the eye, and

437
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<v Speaker 5>he's generally interested in how you're doing, even if it's

438
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<v Speaker 5>a perfect stranger, you know, and thanks people for his

439
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<v Speaker 5>for their interest in him right all these years. So

440
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<v Speaker 5>I just thought, well, you know it was I'm a

441
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.759
<v Speaker 5>curious person by nature, so I mean, I've known Jack

442
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<v Speaker 5>for about twelve years, but I thought his life story

443
00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:10.480
<v Speaker 5>would be interesting because him being the not the first

444
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<v Speaker 5>African American player to wear Wild uniforms, but the first

445
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<v Speaker 5>all American African American to wear the blue and white,

446
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<v Speaker 5>and that I think it's just an incredible story because he,

447
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<v Speaker 5>as a young boy growing up in East Lexington, never

448
00:23:32.960 --> 00:23:38.079
<v Speaker 5>envisioned himself playing for Kentucky because nobody on the team

449
00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.599
<v Speaker 5>looked like him, so it was so it wasn't even

450
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<v Speaker 5>an option in his perceptions at the time. So what

451
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<v Speaker 5>was fun to learn as he told his life story was,

452
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<v Speaker 5>you know, when he became a star at Bryan's station,

453
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<v Speaker 5>you know there were big blue name and fans in

454
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<v Speaker 5>the stands that everywhere he played on the road, you know,

455
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:10.559
<v Speaker 5>largely white people saying come to Kentucky, we want you.

456
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<v Speaker 5>And you know that was a there were other factors

457
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:19.160
<v Speaker 5>he wanted to stick at home. He didn't like to travel,

458
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<v Speaker 5>get on a plane and so on, right, so that

459
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:24.960
<v Speaker 5>that kind of affected in But but without a doubt,

460
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:29.319
<v Speaker 5>those fans of the teams that you know, we're once

461
00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 5>all white, persuaded him. And I just think it's a

462
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.079
<v Speaker 5>great story because look at him now, you know, he's

463
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<v Speaker 5>arguably one of the leading ambassadors for UK back.

464
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

465
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<v Speaker 5>I think it's the great stories, you know.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, And you know I was kind enough you

467
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<v Speaker 1>all sent me an advanced copy and I read it

468
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<v Speaker 1>as quickly as I could because I've known Jack just

469
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<v Speaker 1>we were in school together, you know, and covered him

470
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<v Speaker 1>for the school paper and the school radio station, just

471
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<v Speaker 1>the whole nine yards. But there was so much about

472
00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:05.079
<v Speaker 1>him I didn't know, obviously because of his childhood. Uh

473
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<v Speaker 1>And when you grow up in the lily white East

474
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<v Speaker 1>end of Jefferson County, you don't think about kids growing

475
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<v Speaker 1>up in bluegrass assmen there. You don't even know what

476
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<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, in the barbed wire that separates

477
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<v Speaker 1>the black families from the white families. It was fascinating,

478
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and I think Jack made it sound when I talked

479
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.319
<v Speaker 1>with him and the other subsequent interviews, it was almost cathartic.

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<v Speaker 1>For him to recount those experiences. Has that been the

481
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<v Speaker 1>way you found it?

482
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<v Speaker 5>Yes, And I'm glad you brought that up, because I

483
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<v Speaker 5>don't want to give away too much. But the introduction

484
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<v Speaker 5>of the book, Jack and his brothers used to wash

485
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<v Speaker 5>wash dishes at a place called the Little End, which

486
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<v Speaker 5>is not an existence off Winchester Road.

487
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<v Speaker 1>I remember that.

488
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<v Speaker 5>And for he and his brothers, the shortest way for

489
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<v Speaker 5>them to get their most efficient way was to walk

490
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<v Speaker 5>around along some railroad tracks. So I had him, I

491
00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:09.200
<v Speaker 5>had to ask him about this more than once, to

492
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<v Speaker 5>describe why they did that and how he felt, because

493
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<v Speaker 5>you know, he said, that route went through some white neighborhoods,

494
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<v Speaker 5>and you know, at that time there's some heightened racial

495
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:31.920
<v Speaker 5>tension compared with today. So he said, we and along

496
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<v Speaker 5>the railroad tracks. On both sides were you know, tall

497
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 5>shrubs and so on, and they would hear dogs barking

498
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<v Speaker 5>and and the true exit point from the railroad tracks

499
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<v Speaker 5>to get to the Little End, they did have to

500
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<v Speaker 5>walk a few blocks through all white neighborhood Yeah, and

501
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:51.640
<v Speaker 5>he said, nothing ever happened. But in the back of

502
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<v Speaker 5>my mind, you know, I always thought, you know this

503
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.359
<v Speaker 5>that you know folks living in those houses would view

504
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.440
<v Speaker 5>them with suspicion, and he said he always felt better

505
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.799
<v Speaker 5>once he and his brothers arrived at the little End

506
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:09.559
<v Speaker 5>to start their ship. Sure so, so just like you said,

507
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<v Speaker 5>you know, when I was living in Kentucky, illand in Wilmore,

508
00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:15.799
<v Speaker 5>and you know, I never had that kind of experience.

509
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<v Speaker 5>You know, as a young kid, you know to kind

510
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<v Speaker 5>of just be wary.

511
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<v Speaker 3>You have the antenna up exactly.

512
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<v Speaker 1>It makes you appreciative and it also makes you scratch

513
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>your head a little bit. We're talking with Doug Brounk.

514
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.519
<v Speaker 1>He is the co writer co author with Jack Gibbons

515
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>they call me Goose, which is out now. And what

516
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.799
<v Speaker 1>has been the initial response to the book. I got

517
00:27:43.839 --> 00:27:46.559
<v Speaker 1>to think, you know, you've got a built in audience

518
00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:50.559
<v Speaker 1>of course with with UK fans, But have they had

519
00:27:50.559 --> 00:27:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the same reaction I did, Like, you know, they were

520
00:27:52.839 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 1>happy to learn more about Jack.

521
00:27:55.880 --> 00:27:59.839
<v Speaker 5>Yes, well it's it's just got released within the last

522
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:02.720
<v Speaker 5>couple of weeks, so I am you know, I'm based

523
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.599
<v Speaker 5>in San Diego, so I will lean on Jack for that.

524
00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 5>But attending these three book signings we had last week,

525
00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 5>I had people come up and you know, tell Jack

526
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 5>and me that they're so glad he put his story together.

527
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 5>And I'm looking forward to the to the book. A

528
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 5>couple of people had read it and said they were,

529
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.440
<v Speaker 5>like you, just surprised by so many new things they

530
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:36.119
<v Speaker 5>learned about him. What was really terrific for me to

531
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 5>witness at Joseph's death last Friday, there was a nice

532
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:43.079
<v Speaker 5>crowd of folks, and you know, Jack and I had

533
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 5>a little discussion and then opened it up to Q

534
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 5>and A. And one of the attendees there was Jack's

535
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 5>old assistant high school principal, Oh wow, in the very

536
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.640
<v Speaker 5>front row. And you know, Jack not noticed him right

537
00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:59.720
<v Speaker 5>away before things got going in Chickastania. It's nice see

538
00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 5>him man and all that. But during the Q and A,

539
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 5>this this gentleman stood up and said, if you had

540
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:14.000
<v Speaker 5>told me that this man here would have accomplished all

541
00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 5>he had, all he's done as an adult, I said,

542
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:19.960
<v Speaker 5>I would have told you you're out of your mind.

543
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.759
<v Speaker 5>Because he said Jack was the most quiet, you know,

544
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 5>reserved student I can remember. You know, he just kind

545
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 5>of kept to himself, had good grades and so on,

546
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.880
<v Speaker 5>and so I thought that was really terrific. You know,

547
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:40.039
<v Speaker 5>all these years for him to come back, and and

548
00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:43.880
<v Speaker 5>there were many other former classmates of his from Bryan

549
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:49.519
<v Speaker 5>Station that that showed up. So you know, it's just

550
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:54.000
<v Speaker 5>that's a legacy, you know, for the kindness he shows

551
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:59.400
<v Speaker 5>is something to aspire to and and it's and it's

552
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.559
<v Speaker 5>an in spine, you know. But I want to point

553
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 5>out that he was, you know, Jack was very open

554
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 5>hearted about some of the struggles he's had, you know, yeah,

555
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 5>near financial ruin and you know, being arrested and accused

556
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:19.279
<v Speaker 5>of a crime he did not commit when he had

557
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 5>to rebuild his reputation as a right fairly new father.

558
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:28.680
<v Speaker 5>So that's tough stuff and I commend him for being

559
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:33.480
<v Speaker 5>open about it. And hopefully people, you know, we all

560
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.839
<v Speaker 5>go through struggles, gosh. I hope folks can can learn

561
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 5>how he coped and and have you know, some peace

562
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.079
<v Speaker 5>of mind and better life going forward.

563
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<v Speaker 1>Doug Bronk is my guest. He's a co author of

564
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Jack gibbons memoir. We'll talk more with Doug on the

565
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.319
<v Speaker 1>other side of the break. They're listening to the best

566
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<v Speaker 1>of the big blew Insider want to come here on

567
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<v Speaker 1>six thirty w l a P. It's Dick Gabriel. Welcome back,

568
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to the best of the Big Blue Insider Doug Brounk

569
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 1>as our guests. He is the co author of They

570
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Call Me Goose, Jack gibbons memoir, which has been out

571
00:31:07.279 --> 00:31:09.880
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of weeks now. Prior to the break, Doug,

572
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<v Speaker 1>you referenced the downs that come with the ups in

573
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 1>life as it pertains to Jack, and I learned. I

574
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 1>knew a little bit, but I learned a lot more.

575
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>And I don't want to give away the farm. But

576
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 1>when you talk with Jack about that, and I mentioned

577
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:30.599
<v Speaker 1>things being cathartic earlier, was it difficult to get him

578
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 1>to open up? How did you approach him on this?

579
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 1>And you know how much of that did you know

580
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 1>going in?

581
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:44.960
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know everything. Certainly we once we got rolling,

582
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 5>and this project was largely well, the first I'd say

583
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.799
<v Speaker 5>almost two thirds of the book we put together during

584
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.000
<v Speaker 5>the pandemic because we couldn't be together with all the

585
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 5>lockdowns and everything. So a lot of this was phone work.

586
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 5>And once we got rolling and got into a rhythm

587
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 5>of how we were creating text and I'd share it

588
00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 5>with him and then we kind of right as we

589
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 5>move moved along. I encouraged him to think in blocks

590
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.720
<v Speaker 5>of five to ten years. Okay, so we would we

591
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 5>would just focus on you know, age fifteen to twenty

592
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:29.279
<v Speaker 5>and drilled down and then some of these situations you're

593
00:32:29.319 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 5>alluding to came up and and I was, you know,

594
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.400
<v Speaker 5>I am an advocate for Jack. You know, there's sure

595
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 5>you want to you may not want to talk about everything.

596
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.079
<v Speaker 5>And I said, hey, Jack, this is your book. Do

597
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 5>you you know, think about do you really want to

598
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.119
<v Speaker 5>talk about this or you know, he said no, no, no,

599
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 5>let's you know, let's address it.

600
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:55.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh he did. Wow.

601
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

602
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<v Speaker 5>Well once he told me about the you know, the

603
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 5>financial stuff for example, that was a surprise to me.

604
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 5>And I just said how did how did it come about?

605
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:14.440
<v Speaker 5>And what were the factors? And so we kind of

606
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:21.839
<v Speaker 5>gave some background to it, and so he uh, you

607
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:26.039
<v Speaker 5>know what there were that what I had to what

608
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 5>we were encouraged to embellish on. And this was I

609
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 5>back up a little bit. This project was from for

610
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.799
<v Speaker 5>the University Press of Kentucky and and one of the

611
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:46.079
<v Speaker 5>gentlemen who wrote read a early draft of our book

612
00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:49.160
<v Speaker 5>is doctor Gerald Smith, who has a professor of history

613
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 5>that you know, yeah, great guy. And it turns up

614
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 5>he grew up near where Jack lived and grew up

615
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 5>so he Ye, he's a little younger than Jack, but

616
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:05.000
<v Speaker 5>he had perspectives that I certainly didn't. As we were

617
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 5>talking before, you know, I was I wasn't lived in

618
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:14.239
<v Speaker 5>a largely white city of Wilmore. So he came back

619
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.760
<v Speaker 5>to us and said, Jack, you know, what about this,

620
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:20.199
<v Speaker 5>this and this? What about these people? And so he

621
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.039
<v Speaker 5>actually put together a whole list of things for us

622
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 5>to consider. So Jack and I spent a couple of

623
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Speaker 5>song calls going over those points that Gerald raised. And

624
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, Jack passed on some of them because he

625
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 5>didn't feel they were relevant or he didn't know the

626
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:40.239
<v Speaker 5>people that Gerald was talking about. But there are other

627
00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:46.599
<v Speaker 5>things that so his I think with Gerald's help, I

628
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 5>think we got we had Jack. Jack was opened up

629
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<v Speaker 5>more about his perceived role in the black community of Lexington,

630
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<v Speaker 5>and his perceived role is you know, one of the

631
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<v Speaker 5>African Americans to play for the Wildcats, right, yeah. So

632
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<v Speaker 5>it was so so it was great we got more

633
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<v Speaker 5>detailed material that way, and I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be a good experience.

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<v Speaker 2>For the reader.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

637
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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

638
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<v Speaker 1>And as I said, I don't want to give everything away,

639
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:19.679
<v Speaker 1>but Ben Roberts did a really nice piece in the

640
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Sunday newspaper about Jack in the book, and he wrote

641
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<v Speaker 1>about the fact and this, I don't know if I

642
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<v Speaker 1>if I knew this, Doug but forgot it. But that

643
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and I knew Jack had been recruited by Tennessee. And

644
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember being in school and hearing about the recruitment

645
00:35:35.719 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 1>of Jack Gibbons. Oh he's going to visit Hawaii's going

646
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>to visit UCLA. But he's doing it. You know. We

647
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 1>figured I just want the trips, you know, but ultimately

648
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 1>said he didn't want to get on the plane. I

649
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:53.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize how seriously Jack was considering Tennessee. I just

650
00:35:53.079 --> 00:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>cannot wrap my mind around him in a Tennessee uniform,

651
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:57.519
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

652
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.199
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and to think about the fact that he took

653
00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 5>a Greyhound bus down there for his visit and I

654
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.840
<v Speaker 5>think Stu Aberdeen picked him up at the station and yeah,

655
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 5>they treated him really well, and yeah, he left there

656
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:17.119
<v Speaker 5>thinking he was going to be a volunteer. And boy,

657
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 5>can you imagine had that happened? You know how the

658
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 5>history of UK basketball with James.

659
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to think about it before I let

660
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you go do you know people I assume can get

661
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>this not just a Joe Beth but Amazon. I mean,

662
00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.679
<v Speaker 1>how can folks grab this book off the shelves or.

663
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Online, sure, wherever you choose to buy books. And even

664
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<v Speaker 5>the University Press of Kentucky, if you go to their

665
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.840
<v Speaker 5>website you can order it that way, that's probably the

666
00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.920
<v Speaker 5>most direct. But Amazon, if you're an Amazon Prime member,

667
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:56.760
<v Speaker 5>you can get it shipped free to your house with

668
00:36:56.840 --> 00:37:01.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, with your membership feet. So yeah, anyway you

669
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<v Speaker 5>buy books, And I want to point out one thing.

670
00:37:04.400 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 5>Sure you know, soon after this is about two weeks ago,

671
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.039
<v Speaker 5>there are some at least one imposter Jack Gibbons memoir

672
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.760
<v Speaker 5>floating around out there on Amazon, So buyer beware.

673
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.159
<v Speaker 3>So if the.

674
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<v Speaker 5>Cover doesn't look like it's called Day call Me Goose

675
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:33.000
<v Speaker 5>with Jack waving and it has the University Press of

676
00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky logo on the back, that's what you want to

677
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:41.440
<v Speaker 5>look for. Anything else is absolutely not approved by Jack

678
00:37:41.960 --> 00:37:43.800
<v Speaker 5>and so you would not be supporting him.

679
00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Somebody doing that's that's low ramp. But those are the

680
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>days we live in. Doug Bronk, thank you so much, sir,

681
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 1>and congratulations on the book. I know as an author

682
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 1>as a writer, you're looking for that next project? What

683
00:37:58.199 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 1>have you done for me lately? And what are you

684
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 1>going to do for me? But keep us posted if

685
00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>it's something we need to know about.

686
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:06.920
<v Speaker 5>I sure will. And I just want to say what

687
00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:10.079
<v Speaker 5>a tremendous honor is it's been to work with Jack.

688
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 5>You know, he everything people say about him is absolutely true.

689
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:17.119
<v Speaker 5>He's a fine human being.

690
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, I've got to know a lot of athletes, as

691
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you might expect throughout my career such as it is,

692
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and you're friendly with a lot of them. But Jack

693
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.639
<v Speaker 1>is truly a friend, and he comes across that way

694
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>on the radio. I too, I hope with people, and

695
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy that people are going to get to

696
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>learn a lot more about what has made him such

697
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:38.039
<v Speaker 1>a special guy. Doug, thank you so much. Best of

698
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:38.679
<v Speaker 1>luck to you.

699
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 5>Hey, thank you so much.

700
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Jick.

701
00:38:41.119 --> 00:38:41.559
<v Speaker 5>Stay well.

702
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.039
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

703
00:38:44.079 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Our number two is next here on six thirty w lap. Hey,

704
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.639
<v Speaker 1>it's stick Abriel. Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

705
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Our number two taking a little time off, so please

706
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the best of the Big Blue Insider. Yesterday, UK

707
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:36.679
<v Speaker 1>trotted out three of the new basketball players. First time

708
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>they've done that. Some people have had one on ones.

709
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I have not yet had a chance to sit down

710
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>with any of the players. I had a chance to

711
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>talk to Mark Pope, but they're giving us a bit

712
00:39:46.280 --> 00:39:50.119
<v Speaker 1>more access now as the season draws near, the semester

713
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 1>draws near. So yesterday and I played a little bit

714
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.679
<v Speaker 1>of it on the show. Last night, they brought out

715
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>to Andrew Carr, Ansley Almanpor and otega Oway, and I

716
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:02.639
<v Speaker 1>thought I would share the interviews with you. I will

717
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:05.119
<v Speaker 1>tell you this. You're gonna hear from Andrew Carr, and

718
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna hear from Angeley Almanor, but not otega Oway,

719
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.239
<v Speaker 1>simply because and I played a little bit of his

720
00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.679
<v Speaker 1>interview last night. He is such a soft spoken young man.

721
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>He has a beautiful deep voice and his speaks really well.

722
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Gave a great interview, but because of the way he

723
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:28.760
<v Speaker 1>his voice was so deep and soft, and he was

724
00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:33.079
<v Speaker 1>at a big table and those of us would handheld microphones,

725
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:36.280
<v Speaker 1>I for one, could not get close enough to him

726
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>to pick it up on my mic without having all

727
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 1>the other voices in the background bleeding over. I was

728
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.079
<v Speaker 1>able to find a little bit last night to play

729
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 1>for you. But I want to get another conversation with

730
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>him because he's a really good interview, like I said,

731
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>as a beautiful deep voice. But in trying to play

732
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.119
<v Speaker 1>back the entire interview, there's so much room noise. You

733
00:40:58.159 --> 00:41:00.760
<v Speaker 1>can if you're watching him on YouTube, tube or TV

734
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:03.679
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you can tell what he's saying, but just

735
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.559
<v Speaker 1>listening it's very, very difficult. So we'll have to come

736
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>back to him another time. But let us start with

737
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.119
<v Speaker 1>the big man. Andrew Carr six' eleven transfer from Wake

738
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Forest from Westchester, PA. He will wear number three Rex Chapman,

739
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.280
<v Speaker 1>and he talked to us yesterday about the joys of

740
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 1>being a big man, playing for Mark Polpe and playing

741
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>at Kentucky.

742
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Just touching on team chemistry.

743
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:30.679
<v Speaker 6>This is a small amount of time at a short

744
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 6>period of time to come together. How's that work for

745
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.280
<v Speaker 6>you guys thus far with this small period of time.

746
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:38.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, I think it's been it's actually been

747
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:41.559
<v Speaker 7>a lot of fun. A lot of guys you know

748
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 7>who are older, fourth fifth year guys, and you know

749
00:41:46.039 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 7>they're coming in with the emphasis on trying to get

750
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 7>to know everybody and when you got you know, ten

751
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:57.320
<v Speaker 7>to twelve guys who are trying to put in effort

752
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.800
<v Speaker 7>to get to know each other. It becomes a whole

753
00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:03.800
<v Speaker 7>lot easier when when everybody's trying to learn, you know,

754
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:06.599
<v Speaker 7>learn about each other. And and it's been it's been

755
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.519
<v Speaker 7>really awesome. You know, it's it's my my third team

756
00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:11.719
<v Speaker 7>that I've been on, and and so I've been able

757
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.159
<v Speaker 7>to be around a lot of college basketball. But you know,

758
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:16.840
<v Speaker 7>whenever you get to be a part of a team,

759
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:19.920
<v Speaker 7>it's really special. And these guys are really awesome. It's

760
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.960
<v Speaker 7>been really really great people and there are a lot

761
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:24.800
<v Speaker 7>of fun to be around, so that that part makes

762
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:26.199
<v Speaker 7>it a little bit easier too.

763
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:30.360
<v Speaker 6>So you've been the most impressive so far in practice.

764
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:32.280
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's a hard question.

765
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 7>You know, I think a lot of people have have

766
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:38.360
<v Speaker 7>done a really great job, and I think for for us,

767
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.039
<v Speaker 7>it's it's been really cool. It's not just one person

768
00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:44.480
<v Speaker 7>every day, so you know, it switches up every single day.

769
00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:48.519
<v Speaker 7>Different people have good days on different days, and I

770
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:51.599
<v Speaker 7>think that's what I'm super excited about with this team

771
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 7>in general, too, is the depth. And you know, we

772
00:42:54.199 --> 00:42:57.920
<v Speaker 7>got two of everything, so you know, it's been it's

773
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 7>been really fun to see that throughout practice.

774
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 6>Did anybody surprised you, like, maybe a little better than

775
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 6>you thought, or maybe even just different, a different skill

776
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 6>set than he maybe thought coming in.

777
00:43:08.920 --> 00:43:11.599
<v Speaker 7>You know, I definitely tried to watch as much film

778
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:15.280
<v Speaker 7>on my teammates as possible, so I felt like I

779
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 7>had a pretty good grasp of what they like to

780
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:23.199
<v Speaker 7>do and and everything. But I'd say BG is super physical,

781
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.599
<v Speaker 7>and you know, I think he's made a really concerned

782
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:29.760
<v Speaker 7>effort to keep his super high motor all the time

783
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 7>in practice and give it his all, and it's been

784
00:43:32.760 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 7>really apparent.

785
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 4>So you scattered your own teammate of course, yes, so

786
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.599
<v Speaker 4>you've done that before, uh, somewhat.

787
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.159
<v Speaker 7>You know, I think whenever you go to a new

788
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 7>spot or have new teammates, I think this year is

789
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.960
<v Speaker 7>a little bit easier, a little bit different, just because

790
00:43:51.039 --> 00:43:53.039
<v Speaker 7>you have a lot of film from a lot of guys.

791
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 7>There are a lot of transfers and a lot of

792
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 7>people who played a lot of minutes at other places,

793
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.639
<v Speaker 7>so it's pretty easy to kind of find that you know,

794
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 7>and you have other transfers for me as people who

795
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.599
<v Speaker 7>necessarily didn't play as much or things like that at

796
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:09.719
<v Speaker 7>their last school. So it's been really fun to to

797
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:14.440
<v Speaker 7>really be able to kind of dive deep into some

798
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:16.599
<v Speaker 7>of my teammates and see where they like and where

799
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 7>they thrive on offensive, defense and stuff.

800
00:44:19.559 --> 00:44:23.760
<v Speaker 1>This is not your first transfer, but this is so

801
00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 1>new for everybody, I mean, the entire team, the new

802
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>coach and all that. I mean, how crazy is it

803
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.719
<v Speaker 1>been to be a part of just getting to know everybody?

804
00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:34.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, I think it has been. I think

805
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.719
<v Speaker 7>it's been pretty crazy. But I think also that's the

806
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:40.599
<v Speaker 7>blessing and all of it too, is everybody's new, So

807
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:44.840
<v Speaker 7>everybody's experiencing the same thing. You know, Coach Pope and

808
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.639
<v Speaker 7>the coaching staff are trying to feel each other out

809
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.159
<v Speaker 7>and figure it out, just as you know, the players

810
00:44:50.199 --> 00:44:52.480
<v Speaker 7>are trying to figure feel each other out, figure it

811
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:56.199
<v Speaker 7>figure it out, and so that just I think, you know,

812
00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 7>the the perspective that gives everybody in the program is

813
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:06.480
<v Speaker 7>really specials just a super graceful perspective, and you know,

814
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:10.960
<v Speaker 7>I think that allows for growth, you know, not only

815
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:12.800
<v Speaker 7>with the coaching staff, but with us as well, just

816
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.960
<v Speaker 7>to be able to, you know, know that everybody is

817
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:20.320
<v Speaker 7>in a new situation and everybody's gonna give as much

818
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.519
<v Speaker 7>effort and try as hard as they possibly can to

819
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 7>make it work. And so that's been been really cool

820
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:28.840
<v Speaker 7>and to have that perspective has been I think, on

821
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:31.480
<v Speaker 7>both sides, really beneficial for relationships.

822
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Your new coach sex practices.

823
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:38.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I think I don't know if it's necessarily new, but.

824
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:41.519
<v Speaker 4>I one thing I love and one thing I know about.

825
00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:46.239
<v Speaker 7>Coach Pope, and he showed it definitely in in recruiting

826
00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 7>as well. But he just he loves people, you know,

827
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 7>and and Coach Pope is just a really really great personality,

828
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:57.559
<v Speaker 7>and you know, it bleeds into everything that he does

829
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.559
<v Speaker 7>and with his family, you know, the way the way

830
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:03.239
<v Speaker 7>he coaches us, the way he acts with the coaching staff,

831
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 7>and all the way down to the way he acts

832
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:10.719
<v Speaker 7>with the janitor janitorial people here and just like everybody,

833
00:46:10.840 --> 00:46:14.920
<v Speaker 7>and I think it rubs me a really great way.

834
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.599
<v Speaker 7>And just the way that he cares about people, the

835
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 7>way that he goes out of his way to you know,

836
00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 7>to to love on other people, and endless gratitude with him.

837
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 7>And that's been really special to see out of someone

838
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:32.480
<v Speaker 7>who's a leader at University of Kentucky, especially.

839
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 3>So in practices.

840
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.280
<v Speaker 4>How involved is he with Yeah, very involved.

841
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:42.840
<v Speaker 7>That was pretty cool, especially you know, uh, for me

842
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.519
<v Speaker 7>being able to to go first day, within the first

843
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 7>couple of minutes of the first practice.

844
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 4>Coach Pope has this in the post, is.

845
00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:54.679
<v Speaker 7>Doing post moves, guarding me and showing me tips and

846
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:57.960
<v Speaker 7>tricks and things like that, which has been really really cool.

847
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.519
<v Speaker 7>And you know he's out there, you know, directing everything.

848
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:03.519
<v Speaker 4>It's been. It's been a lot of funder in practice.

849
00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Andrew's part of a question. You've gotten a lot. But

850
00:47:05.519 --> 00:47:07.079
<v Speaker 3>why I kent Tuck you? What made you want to

851
00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:07.480
<v Speaker 3>come here?

852
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, this is a really special place.

853
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:15.400
<v Speaker 7>I think for me, I knew what I was looking

854
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:17.360
<v Speaker 7>for when I went into the transfer portal and this

855
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:20.880
<v Speaker 7>is a combination of everything that kind of came together.

856
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:21.360
<v Speaker 4>For me.

857
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.960
<v Speaker 7>First and foremost, it was a basketball fit, and I think, uh,

858
00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.320
<v Speaker 7>Coach Pope did a really great job, you know, showing

859
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:32.039
<v Speaker 7>me how I would fit within the team and in

860
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.760
<v Speaker 7>the recruitment and just the way that I've been able

861
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:38.360
<v Speaker 7>to play. But also, uh, it's been was really cool

862
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:40.920
<v Speaker 7>for me to say, hey, you need to get better

863
00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.400
<v Speaker 7>at this and this, and this is how we can

864
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 7>help you do that. And you know, for someone trying

865
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 7>to to continue to get better. Obviously has aspirations to

866
00:47:50.119 --> 00:47:52.079
<v Speaker 7>to go play in the NBA. That's that's all you

867
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.280
<v Speaker 7>want to hear when you're in the recruitment process. And

868
00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:58.000
<v Speaker 7>so that was really cool to to understand my fit.

869
00:47:58.079 --> 00:48:03.280
<v Speaker 7>And then this part was just the embracement. Embracement from

870
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.880
<v Speaker 7>the fans. You know, I think, uh, Big Blue Nation

871
00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:08.280
<v Speaker 7>is is just I think you said it before.

872
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's just different, you know.

873
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 7>I think it's a really special place and been my

874
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 7>dream ever since a little kid coming and watching basketball.

875
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:21.039
<v Speaker 7>You always, you know, you hear about Kentucky, Kentucky basketball.

876
00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:23.079
<v Speaker 7>You watch Kentucky basketball, and you know you want to

877
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:24.360
<v Speaker 7>be a Kentucky basketball player.

878
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:27.280
<v Speaker 8>So we've heard a lot about this team's shooting ability

879
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:28.480
<v Speaker 8>right early practices.

880
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.199
<v Speaker 1>Who's who's the one guy that you you just cannot

881
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:31.840
<v Speaker 1>ever leave.

882
00:48:34.840 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 4>I think it's pretty cool.

883
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:41.360
<v Speaker 7>You know, Travis Perry has done a really, you know,

884
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:44.000
<v Speaker 7>a great job, just been working on going in and

885
00:48:44.039 --> 00:48:47.039
<v Speaker 7>seeing them in there. You know, sometimes you walk in

886
00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:50.119
<v Speaker 7>and he's at five hundred and six hundred shots up

887
00:48:50.199 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 7>right in the day and something like that, and and

888
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:56.800
<v Speaker 7>he's still at like eighty five percent, and I'm like,

889
00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:57.480
<v Speaker 7>like how.

890
00:48:57.440 --> 00:48:58.519
<v Speaker 4>Is that possible? Walk over?

891
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:01.760
<v Speaker 7>It's all threes and he's eighty five percent is pretty crazy.

892
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.800
<v Speaker 7>So I'd say, you know, Travis Perry has been lighting

893
00:49:05.840 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 7>it up. You know, I made fifty nine in a

894
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.360
<v Speaker 7>row from a corner the other day.

895
00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:14.159
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's incredible. So what's it been like getting acclimated?

896
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 4>I know, Wake is I'm from Winston, Okay, very good.

897
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Wake is kind of shell Antler.

898
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 5>You get here, everybody recognized automatically because you play.

899
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:26.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, no, It's been definitely a little bit different.

900
00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 7>I think my favorite part has been, you know, you

901
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.280
<v Speaker 7>get downtown and been able to go out to eat

902
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.480
<v Speaker 7>some some really beautiful places downtown and things like that.

903
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:38.519
<v Speaker 7>A lot of rooftop places I didn't know a city,

904
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:41.920
<v Speaker 7>you know, try to get you on the roof for

905
00:49:42.239 --> 00:49:43.639
<v Speaker 7>some extra space or something like that.

906
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.360
<v Speaker 4>But it's been cool going there.

907
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:48.039
<v Speaker 7>My favorite part is also just you know, you go

908
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:52.599
<v Speaker 7>ten fifteen minutes and it's just green for forever, and like,

909
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:56.679
<v Speaker 7>you know, it's just been a beautiful. I just love

910
00:49:56.760 --> 00:50:00.280
<v Speaker 7>nature and things like that going outside, so for it

911
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:03.239
<v Speaker 7>has been really cool to you know, drive fifteen twenty

912
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 7>minutes and you know, get a taste of your hometown,

913
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:10.280
<v Speaker 7>and for me, Westchester is really similar to that, a

914
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 7>lot of green, a little bit more hills, but a

915
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:16.880
<v Speaker 7>lot of green. And so Lexington has really felt like

916
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:19.960
<v Speaker 7>home and you get a taste of both in city

917
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.280
<v Speaker 7>and the country. So it's been a lot of fun,

918
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, being able to explore and experience it and

919
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:29.400
<v Speaker 7>you know, pretty comfortable being away from home at this

920
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.360
<v Speaker 7>point in my life. So it's been it's been great.

921
00:50:33.079 --> 00:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>We're listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

922
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>More to come here on six thirty w LAP. It's

923
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel. Welcome back to the Best of the Big

924
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:47.119
<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider. We are presenting the full interviews with some

925
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:49.559
<v Speaker 1>of the basketball Wildcats we had a chance to talk

926
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.559
<v Speaker 1>to yesterday. Shared a little bit last night. Andrew carr

927
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:57.599
<v Speaker 1>otega Oway and Angeley Almanor, who is the six to

928
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.639
<v Speaker 1>seven wing player from ups Date, New York. He transferred

929
00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>in from Fairleigh Dickinson, and he spoke to us yesterday

930
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 1>first of all about the Kentucky non conference schedule and

931
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:11.880
<v Speaker 1>how he's looking forward to those marquee matchups.

932
00:51:11.719 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 9>And you just can't wait to get out there and play,

933
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.679
<v Speaker 9>you know, actually play against other teams. Obviously excited for

934
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:18.760
<v Speaker 9>some of the bigger games like Duke Louisville and stuff

935
00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:20.440
<v Speaker 9>like that, but just can't wait to get out there

936
00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:21.679
<v Speaker 9>and go compete other guys.

937
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 10>Is that kind of why you came here playing those

938
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 10>marquee games?

939
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:26.639
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's definitely a reason.

940
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:28.559
<v Speaker 9>You don't get to play on that type of exposure,

941
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.519
<v Speaker 9>playing national television games a lot of those big time teams,

942
00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.199
<v Speaker 9>big time players, you know. Definitely definitely was the reason

943
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 9>why I came here for sure.

944
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.760
<v Speaker 1>How are games like that going to help you, guys?

945
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Gel maybe even quicker than a game against a team

946
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:42.639
<v Speaker 1>that's not quite up to the same.

947
00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Part, because you know, you face adversity. University brings you closer.

948
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.079
<v Speaker 9>So when you play those bigger teams, you're going to

949
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:49.280
<v Speaker 9>go through a lot of tough stretchers. They're going to

950
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 9>go make runs because there's a lot of talent on

951
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:53.320
<v Speaker 9>those types of teams. So when you face adversity, you

952
00:51:53.440 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 9>end up becoming quicker, jail quicker and stuff like that.

953
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:57.480
<v Speaker 3>So those games definitely help us.

954
00:51:57.519 --> 00:51:58.880
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean by adversity there?

955
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:00.559
<v Speaker 3>I think I know, but what are you just you know,

956
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:02.559
<v Speaker 3>when another team goes on a run. They're gonna hit shots.

957
00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.039
<v Speaker 9>They're obviously talented too, you know, they're gonna go there,

958
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 9>hit shots, going a little run.

959
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:07.559
<v Speaker 3>How we're gonna respond to that.

960
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.280
<v Speaker 9>The little things like that help build us to where

961
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:11.679
<v Speaker 9>we're competing in March.

962
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 3>And how practice is going so far? What have you

963
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:18.039
<v Speaker 3>seen in the practices? Practice is great? You know, I

964
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 3>love it. I love the lay coach runs things.

965
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 9>You know, we get a lot of skill development, and

966
00:52:21.599 --> 00:52:22.960
<v Speaker 9>we get to play a lot, go up and down

967
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 9>and then putting in his system and stuff like that.

968
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 3>So it's just been great. I love this so far.

969
00:52:28.880 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 1>Let's talked about communications and how vital that is. I mean,

970
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:34.800
<v Speaker 1>how quickly has this team picked up on that.

971
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 9>I feel like, since we have a lot of vets,

972
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:39.719
<v Speaker 9>has something we've we know coming in for sure. So

973
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:41.920
<v Speaker 9>we're I feel like we're pretty good communicators, all of

974
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.000
<v Speaker 9>us top to bottom. You know, all of us were

975
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.760
<v Speaker 9>out there talking. You know, we're a pretty close team too,

976
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:49.039
<v Speaker 9>so I feel like it's something that we definitely have

977
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 9>is a strength of us.

978
00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>What makes you say you're close? I mean, how do

979
00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:55.559
<v Speaker 1>you get that feeling? How does that manifest itself?

980
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:58.320
<v Speaker 9>You need to spend so much time with the guys,

981
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:00.119
<v Speaker 9>like living in the lodge and stuff like that. S

982
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.039
<v Speaker 9>I feel like it just made us jelt quicker. Like

983
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:04.239
<v Speaker 9>I feel like all these guys and my brothers like

984
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:06.039
<v Speaker 9>I know them. I could h t text them, call

985
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 9>them whenever I need him. Like, I feel like everybody

986
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:09.719
<v Speaker 9>has that same type of feeling when it comes to

987
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:10.320
<v Speaker 9>this team.

988
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:12.519
<v Speaker 4>In the same boat.

989
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're all new coming into the program new year.

990
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:17.000
<v Speaker 9>I feel like that definitely does play a part too.

991
00:53:17.000 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 9>You know, everybody is news first time here. We're all

992
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.480
<v Speaker 9>learning these things together, so uh that that definitely does

993
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:23.760
<v Speaker 9>play a part in it for sure.

994
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:27.239
<v Speaker 6>You guys be a team buildings guys on the football

995
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:28.480
<v Speaker 6>field yesterday?

996
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Who who stood out on the on the football field?

997
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Who?

998
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:31.280
<v Speaker 7>Who?

999
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean?

1000
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:34.400
<v Speaker 9>Colin did pretty good? He has a good little arm.

1001
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.159
<v Speaker 9>Uh uh huh? Who else is pretty good?

1002
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:37.519
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

1003
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:39.679
<v Speaker 9>Bg is pretty good. You know, I feel like we

1004
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:41.599
<v Speaker 9>are we're pretty pretty solid as a team.

1005
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:43.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, what was your reaction to Coach Pope in

1006
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 4>the helmet?

1007
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1008
00:53:44.960 --> 00:53:47.079
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I was laughing. He came out of nowhere with

1009
00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:49.400
<v Speaker 9>the helmet on. It's like he was a tight end

1010
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:49.960
<v Speaker 9>out there.

1011
00:53:53.679 --> 00:53:56.360
<v Speaker 10>And talk about you know, on paper, you guys can

1012
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:00.000
<v Speaker 10>shoot the ball and Mark recruited guys who can all shoot.

1013
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.360
<v Speaker 10>Can you just talk about the ability of this team

1014
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.079
<v Speaker 10>to shoot from from depth?

1015
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.239
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's not just on pay pers in real life too,

1016
00:54:06.280 --> 00:54:08.159
<v Speaker 9>you know, like we you we really got a lot

1017
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:10.800
<v Speaker 9>of shooters. That's something he emphasizes w even in every

1018
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 9>day and practice where he makes us everybody go take

1019
00:54:13.079 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 9>a lot of threes, a lot of shots, make sure

1020
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:18.159
<v Speaker 9>we're practicing our craft, and that's something that he emphasizes

1021
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:20.079
<v Speaker 9>a lot as a key to how we're gonna play

1022
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:22.039
<v Speaker 9>this year, how we're gonna beat teams. Just we're gonna

1023
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.280
<v Speaker 9>take a lot of threes. We're gonna make a lot

1024
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:24.920
<v Speaker 9>of threes, and that's definitely a big part.

1025
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:27.519
<v Speaker 3>Of us for sure. Is that something you're looking forward to. Yeah,

1026
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 3>it's something I'm definitely looking forward to. You know.

1027
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:31.840
<v Speaker 9>It's uh one of my strengths. So it definitely can't wait.

1028
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 9>Can't wait to do that.

1029
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.320
<v Speaker 3>How much different in offense from what you ran previously?

1030
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.840
<v Speaker 9>Uh, It's it's pretty different, you know, cause it's is

1031
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.280
<v Speaker 9>just like these types of players, these types of coaches,

1032
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:45.840
<v Speaker 9>like they just go out there, they let you play

1033
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 9>like there's no, really set plays like that. You're really

1034
00:54:48.119 --> 00:54:49.519
<v Speaker 9>gonna go out there and read each other, read a

1035
00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 9>defense like you know. That's why being a close team

1036
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 9>really matters when it comes to this type of system,

1037
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:55.239
<v Speaker 9>cause you got to know each other.

1038
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:56.960
<v Speaker 3>You gotta know where this person's.

1039
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.840
<v Speaker 9>Gonna be or how this person's gonna react to a

1040
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:01.719
<v Speaker 9>certain movements. So I feel like that's really like, uh

1041
00:55:02.119 --> 00:55:04.000
<v Speaker 9>how this offense works, you know, just being able to

1042
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.400
<v Speaker 9>read each other and that something that's different that I haven't.

1043
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:09.559
<v Speaker 4>Read ly is adjust But.

1044
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.599
<v Speaker 9>Uh not really, I feel like you p. I played

1045
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:14.000
<v Speaker 9>basketball for Almo almost all my life, so once you

1046
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:15.960
<v Speaker 9>play basketball like you're you're a basketball player. At the

1047
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:17.000
<v Speaker 9>end of the day, you know, you know what the

1048
00:55:17.079 --> 00:55:18.760
<v Speaker 9>right players, you know the wrong players. So as long

1049
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:20.079
<v Speaker 9>as you out there trying to make the right play,

1050
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:21.360
<v Speaker 9>everything's gonna fall into place.

1051
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:21.800
<v Speaker 3>For sure.

1052
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 10>What're not playing with six You guys have got six

1053
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:28.920
<v Speaker 10>fifty years seniors. What's that gonna mean for you guys.

1054
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Or just experience?

1055
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:31.800
<v Speaker 9>You know, we're an older team when it comes to compare,

1056
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:33.440
<v Speaker 9>like comparing us to the rest of the country, just

1057
00:55:33.480 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 9>gonna be older than a lot of these teams. You know,

1058
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:37.559
<v Speaker 9>fifty your seniors. They've been through a lot. I mean,

1059
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:39.320
<v Speaker 9>I'm a senior myself. I've been through a lot. Like

1060
00:55:39.360 --> 00:55:41.320
<v Speaker 9>I know college basketball like the back of my hand,

1061
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:43.320
<v Speaker 9>like I've been through the ups and downs that They've

1062
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:44.519
<v Speaker 9>definitely been through the ups and the downs. So I

1063
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.400
<v Speaker 9>feel like that's gonna help us, especially when it comes

1064
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:48.559
<v Speaker 9>to later in the season, like when we're pushing making

1065
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:50.400
<v Speaker 9>a play for marsh or stuff like that. I definitely

1066
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.280
<v Speaker 9>think that's gonna be a key to while we win

1067
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:54.559
<v Speaker 9>games and being able to put a pull them out.

1068
00:55:54.920 --> 00:55:58.599
<v Speaker 1>The championship team coach played for has so much talent,

1069
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 1>and they they told us that going into that year,

1070
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 1>they were all talking among themselves like, how is Rick

1071
00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Patino gonna do this? Who's gonna play what position?

1072
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:08.800
<v Speaker 3>And how much are you guys.

1073
00:56:08.559 --> 00:56:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Going through a similar thing? Because you've got so much

1074
00:56:11.280 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 1>experienced talent on this roster.

1075
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I feel like we're not even work like

1076
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 3>right now. I don't think anybody's really worried about that.

1077
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Right now.

1078
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:21.159
<v Speaker 9>We're just really focused on trying to learn his system.

1079
00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:22.519
<v Speaker 3>So yes, I think it's a little too so.

1080
00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.440
<v Speaker 9>Baby, as you get closer to this season, we start

1081
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:26.400
<v Speaker 9>figuring that out, but like we're still just trying to

1082
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:28.599
<v Speaker 9>learn everything. You know, there's a lot of it's a

1083
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:30.079
<v Speaker 9>lot of this stuff is coming out as fast. We're

1084
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:33.519
<v Speaker 9>trying to learn his system, excuse me, trying to learn

1085
00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:35.800
<v Speaker 9>his system, learning things that he's teaching us, and trying

1086
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:37.480
<v Speaker 9>to learn each other like on and off the court.

1087
00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:39.639
<v Speaker 9>So that's that's something a little too early for us

1088
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 9>to really think like that. But like you said, there's

1089
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:43.519
<v Speaker 9>a lot of talent on this team, so they got

1090
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:45.480
<v Speaker 9>a tough job. I feel like trying to figure out.

1091
00:56:45.400 --> 00:56:46.760
<v Speaker 4>What would your impression.

1092
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:47.920
<v Speaker 3>When he took you out with it?

1093
00:56:48.119 --> 00:56:50.719
<v Speaker 9>It was unbelievable. You know, you see it on TV

1094
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 9>and stuff like that. You see see the games on TV,

1095
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.039
<v Speaker 9>but being in there seeing like like sitting at the top,

1096
00:56:56.199 --> 00:56:58.000
<v Speaker 9>just seeing the whole arena from that point of view

1097
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:00.639
<v Speaker 9>is just crazy. Like I'm gonna be able to get

1098
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:02.960
<v Speaker 9>to play there and represent those fans, and I can't

1099
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:03.480
<v Speaker 9>wait to do that.

1100
00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.519
<v Speaker 11>It's always Coach Pope's system that's very advanced, and it's

1101
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:09.320
<v Speaker 11>hard to learn from a lot of people who what

1102
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:11.280
<v Speaker 11>a lot of people have said, can you maybe just

1103
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:13.000
<v Speaker 11>kind of go into a little bit of death of

1104
00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:14.920
<v Speaker 11>what you've seen from his system so far.

1105
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 3>Just just like a lot of reads, that's what it is.

1106
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:18.719
<v Speaker 4>Like.

1107
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:21.920
<v Speaker 9>You play fast, you p you you make a lot

1108
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.320
<v Speaker 9>of reads. You play basketball with a hot Q. You

1109
00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:26.880
<v Speaker 9>try to find your teammate open shot. And that's really

1110
00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:29.400
<v Speaker 9>what it is. And it sounds easy, but to feelly

1111
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:31.440
<v Speaker 9>not like you know, it takes a lot of movement.

1112
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:33.480
<v Speaker 9>It takes a lot of practice and a lot of

1113
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 9>hard work to be able to you know, master it

1114
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 9>and perfect it.

1115
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:38.920
<v Speaker 3>But it's been fun so far learning it.

1116
00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.280
<v Speaker 11>So what do you If there's one thing you want

1117
00:57:42.360 --> 00:57:43.800
<v Speaker 11>BBN to know about you?

1118
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:44.440
<v Speaker 3>What is it?

1119
00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

1120
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 9>You know that I'm here to represent you guys, and

1121
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 9>I'm only here to win this national championship. You're not

1122
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.880
<v Speaker 9>gonna see nobody go out there and like I mean

1123
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:56.199
<v Speaker 9>a person, I'm gonna go out there and give them

1124
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:57.679
<v Speaker 9>my all every time I get out there. You know,

1125
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 9>I'm then to comfort the the glid to the Glamoray.

1126
00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:04.119
<v Speaker 9>Just came here to win a national championship and represent

1127
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:05.760
<v Speaker 9>you guys. That's all I came here for and come

1128
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:08.079
<v Speaker 9>for none of the fancy stuff, you know. So that's

1129
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:09.480
<v Speaker 9>definitely something I want them to know about me.

1130
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:11.079
<v Speaker 3>What about defensively.

1131
00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:13.519
<v Speaker 1>What have you seen defensively in the practices so far?

1132
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.159
<v Speaker 9>Its defensively what he teaches us is like really fun,

1133
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.159
<v Speaker 9>Like I feel like you've got a lot of good defenders.

1134
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:21.400
<v Speaker 9>And that's something that he emphasized that people don't really

1135
00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:24.800
<v Speaker 9>realize that. He's really a big, big emphasis on defense.

1136
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.639
<v Speaker 9>We do that every day, you know, certain schemes and stuff,

1137
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.239
<v Speaker 9>the way we play. It's that's something that it's important.

1138
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.079
<v Speaker 9>We gotta get stops and we gotta be able to

1139
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.119
<v Speaker 9>rebound on the defensive end. So it's something that people

1140
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:37.039
<v Speaker 9>don't don't really talk about when it comes to coach Pope,

1141
00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:38.480
<v Speaker 9>but that's something you definitely emphasize.

1142
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Defense is fun.

1143
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:43.199
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the way like, yeah, defense is fun, like the

1144
00:58:43.239 --> 00:58:45.719
<v Speaker 9>way the way we want to play Like, defense is fun.

1145
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:47.480
<v Speaker 9>You get stops, you've got you get out and you

1146
00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 9>go make them guard us, Like it's just fun.

1147
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.559
<v Speaker 3>You know, what have you seen from Amari so far?

1148
00:58:52.599 --> 00:58:55.920
<v Speaker 3>As I mean mediums have you seen from he's been

1149
00:58:55.960 --> 00:58:56.519
<v Speaker 3>He's been great.

1150
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 9>You know, he probably got to get to talk to

1151
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:00.199
<v Speaker 9>them a couple of days, but you know, everybody he's

1152
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 9>been great. Like I said, everybody is just a great player.

1153
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:05.679
<v Speaker 9>Out here working their butts off and you know, doing

1154
00:59:05.719 --> 00:59:08.239
<v Speaker 9>their best. So it's been a great grace sperience so far.

1155
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you guys don't worry about this, but the

1156
00:59:10.800 --> 00:59:13.960
<v Speaker 1>preseason way too early. Top twenty fives probably don't have

1157
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:17.519
<v Speaker 1>you guys anywhere. How good can this team be? I

1158
00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:19.840
<v Speaker 1>know the sky's a limit and all that, but you've

1159
00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.719
<v Speaker 1>seen a lot of basketball. Like you said, just just

1160
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:24.159
<v Speaker 1>how good is this team gonna be?

1161
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:25.719
<v Speaker 3>I feel like this team's gonna be really good.

1162
00:59:25.719 --> 00:59:27.760
<v Speaker 9>Like I said, it's gonna really shock a lot of

1163
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 9>people how good we're gonna be, especially especially when it

1164
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:33.920
<v Speaker 9>comes to playing some of the teams on our schedule,

1165
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:35.880
<v Speaker 9>Like you know, we're gonna we're gonna go out there

1166
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:37.320
<v Speaker 9>and shock a lot of shock a lot of people

1167
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.119
<v Speaker 9>in this country. And we're definitely gonna make a deep

1168
00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:40.920
<v Speaker 9>run when it comes to March, because that's the goal

1169
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:43.519
<v Speaker 9>is anyways, the goal obviously wheen of those non conference

1170
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.320
<v Speaker 9>games in those conferences early, they matter, but the end

1171
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:48.880
<v Speaker 9>goal is getting that band number nine, and that's what

1172
00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:50.039
<v Speaker 9>all of our goals are.

1173
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.639
<v Speaker 1>So so you think those big non conference games could

1174
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:53.639
<v Speaker 1>be statement.

1175
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:55.519
<v Speaker 9>Games, They're definitely gonna be staving games especially, you got

1176
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.960
<v Speaker 9>a lot of guys who are you know, we want

1177
00:59:57.960 --> 00:59:59.400
<v Speaker 9>to be here, We want to represent the Kentucky So

1178
00:59:59.440 --> 01:00:02.239
<v Speaker 9>we're gonna go out there make statements and hopefully, you know,

1179
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 9>show people that we're not someone to play with. So yeah,

1180
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:06.960
<v Speaker 9>we're definitely gonna go out there and make some statements

1181
01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:07.920
<v Speaker 9>in others in those games.

1182
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:10.639
<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Best of the Big Blue Insider.

1183
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:13.320
<v Speaker 1>More to come here on six point thirty w LAP.

1184
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 1>It's Dick Gabriel. Welcome back to the Best of the

1185
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. Joining us now is an old friend.

1186
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:21.480
<v Speaker 1>We knew him first when he was an assistant coach

1187
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:24.280
<v Speaker 1>at Kentucky and since then, Tony Franklin has done a

1188
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:28.159
<v Speaker 1>lot of interesting things. He's coached, he's consulted, he's got

1189
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:31.800
<v Speaker 1>a podcast off and on, he's on our Celebrity Hotline. Coach,

1190
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:35.400
<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the show, and this has got to

1191
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:37.960
<v Speaker 1>be a thrill for you. One of your former pupils,

1192
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff, is just at a terrific year with his team,

1193
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.159
<v Speaker 1>the Detroit Lions. Man, what's it been like for you

1194
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:46.280
<v Speaker 1>to watch this happen?

1195
01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:51.199
<v Speaker 8>Well, it's such a it's really a good American story.

1196
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 8>I think it's one of those things that as a

1197
01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.079
<v Speaker 8>as a parent, as a teacher, educator, coach, you can

1198
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.599
<v Speaker 8>you can really teach so many great lessons from it.

1199
01:01:01.679 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 8>And yeah, I've known Jared since I went and watched

1200
01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.239
<v Speaker 8>his last high school game when we first got to

1201
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:11.159
<v Speaker 8>cal and helped to secure him to come on. He

1202
01:01:11.239 --> 01:01:13.599
<v Speaker 8>came in early, and so I got to coach him

1203
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:15.880
<v Speaker 8>for three years and got to know his mom and dad,

1204
01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:19.039
<v Speaker 8>and then you know, over the years as he got

1205
01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:22.159
<v Speaker 8>into the NFL and went through the extreme highs and

1206
01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.199
<v Speaker 8>the extreme lows with him, I just actually went up

1207
01:01:25.239 --> 01:01:28.079
<v Speaker 8>this summer. I was doing a consulting in Michigan, and

1208
01:01:28.199 --> 01:01:30.000
<v Speaker 8>so we spent a day together in Detroit and I

1209
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:31.639
<v Speaker 8>got to watch him practice and we went out and

1210
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 8>at dinner that night. And he's just a really great

1211
01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:39.400
<v Speaker 8>example of you know, never get too high, never get

1212
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.320
<v Speaker 8>too low. I told him when he was drafted, I said,

1213
01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:44.000
<v Speaker 8>You're never going to be as good as people say

1214
01:01:44.119 --> 01:01:45.559
<v Speaker 8>you are, and you're never going to be as bad

1215
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:48.719
<v Speaker 8>as people say you are. So enjoy the journey and

1216
01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:50.719
<v Speaker 8>do the best you can and find a way to,

1217
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:53.800
<v Speaker 8>you know, do some good every day. So it's been

1218
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:57.079
<v Speaker 8>wonderful to see him do what he's done in Detroit.

1219
01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:00.599
<v Speaker 8>That whole cast of characters there is just a group

1220
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:03.280
<v Speaker 8>of humans. And so I've been really proud of him

1221
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:04.760
<v Speaker 8>and happy for him as well.

1222
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>He was the overall number one pick by the Rams,

1223
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:10.199
<v Speaker 1>so I know you were ecstatic for him that night,

1224
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:13.159
<v Speaker 1>got to a super Bowl, and then he's traded, so

1225
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that it couldn't be more of an up and down

1226
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:19.280
<v Speaker 1>life with regard to those moves, right, well, I.

1227
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 7>Think it is.

1228
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:22.119
<v Speaker 8>I got to go to the draft, and you know,

1229
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 8>it was such an ecstatic moment when he got the

1230
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.039
<v Speaker 8>phone call and I was sitting at the table with

1231
01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:29.840
<v Speaker 8>him to watch that smile in his face, and to

1232
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:31.719
<v Speaker 8>see his mom and dad and his sister and the

1233
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:36.199
<v Speaker 8>pride that they had, and then to watch him grow

1234
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:38.519
<v Speaker 8>up in the NFL and just start to be good

1235
01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.880
<v Speaker 8>and to get that success and to be all pro

1236
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:44.119
<v Speaker 8>and you know, go play in the Super Bowl and

1237
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:50.480
<v Speaker 8>all that. But then also to see how the egotistical

1238
01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:53.480
<v Speaker 8>part of coaching were. Everything that good happened with the

1239
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:57.239
<v Speaker 8>Rams was the great wonder kid Sean McVeigh, and everything

1240
01:02:57.320 --> 01:02:59.880
<v Speaker 8>that happened bad with the Rams was all that terrible

1241
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:03.719
<v Speaker 8>quarterback Jared Goff, and for McVeigh to throw flame on

1242
01:03:03.800 --> 01:03:05.719
<v Speaker 8>those fires, and then for the way he was traded,

1243
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:09.360
<v Speaker 8>just to do it in such an unprofessional way, and

1244
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 8>for the way that he found out and all that. So, uh,

1245
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:15.440
<v Speaker 8>it's it's like I tell him, you know, I told

1246
01:03:15.480 --> 01:03:16.920
<v Speaker 8>him at different times, I said, you know, you have

1247
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:20.280
<v Speaker 8>really good problems. You make a tremendous amount of money,

1248
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:26.000
<v Speaker 8>You've got an crazy, beautiful, amazing fiance, you got great parents,

1249
01:03:26.039 --> 01:03:28.039
<v Speaker 8>and half the time the world loves you and the

1250
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:29.880
<v Speaker 8>other half the time they hate you. So you know,

1251
01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:31.159
<v Speaker 8>that's a good set of problems.

1252
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when you sign up for quarterback, you sign

1253
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:36.400
<v Speaker 1>up for that, don't you You do.

1254
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:39.360
<v Speaker 8>Think I think, you know, for everybody in Lexington, they

1255
01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:42.639
<v Speaker 8>got to watch it firsthand. With with Tim Couch, yeah,

1256
01:03:42.960 --> 01:03:45.159
<v Speaker 8>being the first pick in the draft. And I've always

1257
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 8>said this, and I always believed it, is that Tim

1258
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:52.199
<v Speaker 8>Couch was not the problem with the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland

1259
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:55.639
<v Speaker 8>Brown's were a problem with Tim Couch. And you're so

1260
01:03:56.559 --> 01:04:00.320
<v Speaker 8>dependent upon luck in that deal where you go who

1261
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 8>the coaches are, and he just had a bad run

1262
01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:05.360
<v Speaker 8>of luck with the guys that were there, and the

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01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:08.800
<v Speaker 8>coaching staff. And so Jared has been you know, he's

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01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:10.760
<v Speaker 8>had the ups and the downs and highs and lows,

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<v Speaker 8>and you just sometimes have to told every quarterback I've

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01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:17.679
<v Speaker 8>ever coached, you got to overcome your coaching. Sometime we're

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01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:20.679
<v Speaker 8>not always right. Sometimes we're wrong. And I told Jared

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01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:22.239
<v Speaker 8>when he went to the NFL, I said, you play

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01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.920
<v Speaker 8>ten years, you're probably gonna have ten different quarterback coaches.

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01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:27.400
<v Speaker 8>They tell you ten different things, and you better learn

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01:04:27.480 --> 01:04:29.880
<v Speaker 8>to listen to none of them and figure out who

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01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:32.679
<v Speaker 8>you are. And every now and then you get lucky

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01:04:32.719 --> 01:04:35.559
<v Speaker 8>and find somebody that's really good. And he's been fortunate

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01:04:35.679 --> 01:04:38.400
<v Speaker 8>now as OC has done an incredible job, and I

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01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:40.599
<v Speaker 8>think he's got the best head coach in all the football.

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01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:42.519
<v Speaker 8>So all those guys play hard for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking to Tony Franklin, former assistant at Kentucky, was the

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01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.639
<v Speaker 1>OC at Cal and Jared Goff was there setting records

1279
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:52.639
<v Speaker 1>in the Pac twelve. Well, that's got to hurt your

1280
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:56.440
<v Speaker 1>heart to the pack The weelve, I guess is falling apart.

1281
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.599
<v Speaker 1>But to work with a guy like Golf and now,

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01:05:00.079 --> 01:05:02.960
<v Speaker 1>be honest, I'm actually a shareholder, a part owner of

1283
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the Green Bay Packers but I'm rooting like crazy the

1284
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lyons, if not for golf, for Josh Pascal and

1285
01:05:11.280 --> 01:05:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Quinton Bohanna. It's a lot to like over with the Lions,

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01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:16.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it really is.

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01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.559
<v Speaker 8>And Laura and I were lucky this year that with

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01:05:19.719 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 8>my schedule, we were able to go to a game

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01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:25.239
<v Speaker 8>and sit in a box with Jared's mom and dad

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01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:28.840
<v Speaker 8>and a group of people that really supported him. And

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01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:34.119
<v Speaker 8>all these years coaching in every major stadium that there

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01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:37.599
<v Speaker 8>is in football, I've never been to a place as

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01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:41.079
<v Speaker 8>loud as Ford Field. I've never been to a place

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01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:43.840
<v Speaker 8>where the fans cared as much as what they did

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01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:47.599
<v Speaker 8>at Ford Field, and for him to experience that, and

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01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:50.159
<v Speaker 8>especially in the playoffs with them shouting his name when

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01:05:50.159 --> 01:05:52.920
<v Speaker 8>they played the Rams and Stafford came back and the

1298
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:56.400
<v Speaker 8>fans shouting Jared Goff, Jared Goff, pretty cool stuff.

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01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Tell me about his physical skills to so many other

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01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:03.320
<v Speaker 1>points in your career, because it's been fascinating. But with

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01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.800
<v Speaker 1>regard to Jared Goff, I mean, obviously a strong arm,

1302
01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:10.239
<v Speaker 1>but I got to think he sees a field pretty well, doesn't.

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01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:15.519
<v Speaker 8>He He's got great vision. He's a guy that you know,

1304
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:19.119
<v Speaker 8>people always talk about today. There's such a divide between well,

1305
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.440
<v Speaker 8>you know, they're just a system quarterback and they can't

1306
01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:24.760
<v Speaker 8>do this and they can't do that. And what people

1307
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:28.400
<v Speaker 8>don't understand is that there is an art to operating

1308
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:31.920
<v Speaker 8>in that pocket from tackle to tackle. Tim Couch had

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01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:36.039
<v Speaker 8>that art. He was tremendous at with great hot, fast feats.

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01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:39.199
<v Speaker 8>It's what I now call Manning GoF footwork. I named

1311
01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:42.519
<v Speaker 8>it after Peyton Manning and Jared Goff, and really, to

1312
01:06:42.559 --> 01:06:44.639
<v Speaker 8>be honest with you, because it named it after Tim

1313
01:06:44.760 --> 01:06:47.239
<v Speaker 8>Couch because all their footwork was the same. They had

1314
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 8>this incredible like a typewriter where you work to find

1315
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:53.480
<v Speaker 8>the throwing lanes from a GAF to b gaff to

1316
01:06:53.519 --> 01:06:57.480
<v Speaker 8>see gap. And Jared has that unique ability to never

1317
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:01.119
<v Speaker 8>look at the rush, to keep his eyes down the field,

1318
01:07:01.480 --> 01:07:03.679
<v Speaker 8>to be able to feel the rush, to slide from

1319
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:06.119
<v Speaker 8>a GAF to be gap, to see gap. And then

1320
01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.800
<v Speaker 8>obviously did God give him talent and to throw a

1321
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:12.360
<v Speaker 8>laser being twenty five yards from one hash to the

1322
01:07:12.400 --> 01:07:15.800
<v Speaker 8>opposite sideline and you know, to be six ' five

1323
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:18.719
<v Speaker 8>and do that is a gift that you know he.

1324
01:07:18.840 --> 01:07:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Was blessed with.

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01:07:19.719 --> 01:07:22.840
<v Speaker 8>And all the other stuff he's worked incredibly hard to

1326
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:25.039
<v Speaker 8>be good, and he worked hard in college. He was

1327
01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:27.119
<v Speaker 8>a guy that his first year we were one and

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01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:29.639
<v Speaker 8>eleven at Cal and you know, he got sacked as

1329
01:07:29.719 --> 01:07:32.159
<v Speaker 8>much as anybody in college football.

1330
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:32.559
<v Speaker 1>And he took a beating.

1331
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:35.159
<v Speaker 8>He weighed about one hundred and seventy pounds, and you know,

1332
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:38.079
<v Speaker 8>he went from there to breaking every record in football.

1333
01:07:38.199 --> 01:07:42.320
<v Speaker 8>And so it's fun to watch somebody just constantly every

1334
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:44.679
<v Speaker 8>year get better at their craft. And he's right now

1335
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 8>playing at the highest level that he's ever played at.

1336
01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Wow. Why you were at Kentucky. You were the OC

1337
01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:53.119
<v Speaker 1>for a Dusty Bonner and Jared Lorenzen. I know Jared

1338
01:07:53.159 --> 01:07:57.360
<v Speaker 1>could shake off defensive line, but Dusty, Dusty was sacked

1339
01:07:57.440 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, I know, but it's still led to

1340
01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:00.679
<v Speaker 1>ly in passing.

1341
01:08:01.880 --> 01:08:04.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and Dusty was a guy too that did a

1342
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:08.119
<v Speaker 8>nice job of working to find the throwing lanes. The

1343
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:10.360
<v Speaker 8>problem was we just weren't. You know, we lost those

1344
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:12.960
<v Speaker 8>that really good group of all offensive line and all

1345
01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:15.039
<v Speaker 8>left that year before. So he had to sit in

1346
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:18.600
<v Speaker 8>there with that and still had the SEC in several categories.

1347
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:20.800
<v Speaker 8>And you know, it was a great quarterback and I'd

1348
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:23.039
<v Speaker 8>still to this day will go to my grave knowing

1349
01:08:23.119 --> 01:08:26.560
<v Speaker 8>that if you know, our head coach had not made

1350
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:29.239
<v Speaker 8>that decision to do what he did, then you know,

1351
01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:31.760
<v Speaker 8>he would probably still be a big time coach. But

1352
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:36.479
<v Speaker 8>all that's in hindsight. But yeah, and you know, Jared

1353
01:08:36.520 --> 01:08:40.960
<v Speaker 8>obviously had Lorenzo had a phenomenal skill set that was

1354
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:43.119
<v Speaker 8>different than any of those other guys in the fact

1355
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:46.439
<v Speaker 8>that he was just an incredible athlete that could throw

1356
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:49.319
<v Speaker 8>the ball seventy yards and tough guy and you know,

1357
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:51.840
<v Speaker 8>physical and all the other things, all the other gifts

1358
01:08:51.880 --> 01:08:52.199
<v Speaker 8>that you have.

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01:08:52.920 --> 01:08:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Dusty's made quite a name for himself as

1360
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a radio personality here and in part of our UK

1361
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:01.199
<v Speaker 1>network coverage, So you got to be proud of him

1362
01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:04.960
<v Speaker 1>for that. But we're talking to Tony Franklin, a former

1363
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky assistant coach also worked in a number of places

1364
01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:12.239
<v Speaker 1>in treading cal where he coached Jared Goff, the overall

1365
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:14.439
<v Speaker 1>number one pick in the draft and now a guy

1366
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:17.279
<v Speaker 1>who's just one step away from the Super Bowl. They're

1367
01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:19.680
<v Speaker 1>listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider More

1368
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to come here on six thirty WLAP. It's Dick Gabriel.

1369
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:26.560
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the best of the Big Blue Insider

1370
01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:30.439
<v Speaker 1>talking to Tony Franklin, who was an assistant coach at Kentucky,

1371
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:33.720
<v Speaker 1>worked at Troy and Auburn and Middle Tennessee, but also

1372
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.840
<v Speaker 1>at cal where he coached Jared Goff, now the quarterback

1373
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:39.039
<v Speaker 1>of the Detroit Lions. Do you get a chance to

1374
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:42.319
<v Speaker 1>talk and you know, meet and chalk with Dan Campbell

1375
01:09:42.359 --> 01:09:45.079
<v Speaker 1>at all, because man, that city has fallen in love

1376
01:09:45.119 --> 01:09:45.600
<v Speaker 1>with that guy.

1377
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:49.520
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I sure have. The day I went, they were

1378
01:09:51.000 --> 01:09:54.439
<v Speaker 8>gosh there in late June, so I think it was

1379
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:58.439
<v Speaker 8>their last day of OTAs. And it was funny because

1380
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.680
<v Speaker 8>they security like I was going to see the President

1381
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:03.640
<v Speaker 8>of the United States to get into the camp. And

1382
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:08.199
<v Speaker 8>once I got inside there and Jared had arranged everything,

1383
01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:12.920
<v Speaker 8>it was when Coach Campbell came out. He was one

1384
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:16.399
<v Speaker 8>of the few people that in my life at the

1385
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:19.520
<v Speaker 8>moment he walked out onto the field, there was a

1386
01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:23.000
<v Speaker 8>presence that I'd be truthful with you. I was afraid

1387
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:25.399
<v Speaker 8>of the guy. I mean, I didn't want to walk

1388
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:28.119
<v Speaker 8>up and say hello, who I was nothing. I tried

1389
01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:30.359
<v Speaker 8>to avoid him because he looked at me like he

1390
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:34.359
<v Speaker 8>was ready to play. That day and the thing that

1391
01:10:34.520 --> 01:10:36.600
<v Speaker 8>Jared had said to me a long time ago was

1392
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:39.520
<v Speaker 8>he said, you know, everybody because of his opening speech

1393
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:41.319
<v Speaker 8>when he took over things of him as you know,

1394
01:10:41.399 --> 01:10:44.560
<v Speaker 8>a meathead and oksuskay and all that stuff. He said, he's,

1395
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:46.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, one of, if not the smartest guys that

1396
01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:49.399
<v Speaker 8>I've ever been around in the game of football. He

1397
01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:53.000
<v Speaker 8>knows every single aspect of the game from offense, defense,

1398
01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:56.800
<v Speaker 8>special teams. And the big thing is he's a leader

1399
01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:02.439
<v Speaker 8>and they respond to him because he genuinely cares and

1400
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:06.439
<v Speaker 8>he tells authentic truth, which is so unusual it's almost

1401
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:08.760
<v Speaker 8>unheard of in college football. I mean, I don't know

1402
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:12.079
<v Speaker 8>ninety percent of the guys that are out there today

1403
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:15.000
<v Speaker 8>in the industry, I don't think there's hardly any authentic truth.

1404
01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:19.479
<v Speaker 8>But Dan Campbell is authentic truth. And I think it's

1405
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:21.680
<v Speaker 8>easier to have authentic truth in the NFL than it

1406
01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:24.760
<v Speaker 8>is in college. But he's one of those people that

1407
01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:27.680
<v Speaker 8>I think it's what's made him such a great leader

1408
01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:29.880
<v Speaker 8>is because he does speak authentic truth.

1409
01:11:30.159 --> 01:11:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say, professionals, they've been around the block.

1410
01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:35.960
<v Speaker 1>They're going to recognize bs, aren't they.

1411
01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1412
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I think so.

1413
01:11:38.119 --> 01:11:41.359
<v Speaker 8>When I think that the other things that eventually pretty

1414
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:44.640
<v Speaker 8>quickly they find out that it is a business, and

1415
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:48.560
<v Speaker 8>as long as you're upfront and honest and blunt, then

1416
01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:51.279
<v Speaker 8>most of them will walk away with a good feeling.

1417
01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:53.520
<v Speaker 8>They'll feel good about it. And I think that was

1418
01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:55.840
<v Speaker 8>the thing that always bothered me with Jared when the

1419
01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:59.079
<v Speaker 8>Rams traded him, is that it wasn't authentic truth. It

1420
01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:02.640
<v Speaker 8>was a sneaky, behine, unclosed door deal, a secret meeting,

1421
01:12:02.800 --> 01:12:06.199
<v Speaker 8>and you know, it goes to social media thirty seconds

1422
01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:08.239
<v Speaker 8>after he finds out, and so it had all been

1423
01:12:08.319 --> 01:12:11.279
<v Speaker 8>done beforehand. So that was more like the interworkings of

1424
01:12:11.319 --> 01:12:14.000
<v Speaker 8>a college football program. Then, you know, pros the way

1425
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:15.119
<v Speaker 8>they're supposed to handle thing.

1426
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:17.680
<v Speaker 1>What kind of a chance do you give them? Because

1427
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I had the Niners look beatable when the Green Bay

1428
01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 1>played them.

1429
01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.359
<v Speaker 8>You know, Green Bay I thought was playing as good

1430
01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:25.159
<v Speaker 8>as anybody in the NFL at the end of the year.

1431
01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:28.560
<v Speaker 8>As a matter of fact, I think that if Love

1432
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:31.560
<v Speaker 8>had just a little bit more experience, yep, they would

1433
01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:34.159
<v Speaker 8>have won that game because he missed. You know, the

1434
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:36.600
<v Speaker 8>interception he threw to the running back on the checkdown

1435
01:12:36.800 --> 01:12:39.319
<v Speaker 8>was just really bad footwork and just you know, a

1436
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:42.600
<v Speaker 8>horrible ball, and he'd thrown so many incredible balls in

1437
01:12:42.720 --> 01:12:45.880
<v Speaker 8>rhythm that he'd had the last few weeks. But with

1438
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:50.199
<v Speaker 8>that being said, Detroit's playing really good football. They've played

1439
01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:52.720
<v Speaker 8>good football on the road this year at different times.

1440
01:12:53.279 --> 01:12:55.520
<v Speaker 8>I think it all comes down to whether or not

1441
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.720
<v Speaker 8>they get a plus one or a plus two in turnovers.

1442
01:12:59.199 --> 01:13:01.000
<v Speaker 8>If they have a play one or a plus two

1443
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.640
<v Speaker 8>and turnovers, I think they'll I think they'll win the game.

1444
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:06.199
<v Speaker 8>If they don't, then I think it'll be you know,

1445
01:13:06.279 --> 01:13:10.279
<v Speaker 8>it'll be a tough deal because San Francisco is a

1446
01:13:10.399 --> 01:13:15.560
<v Speaker 8>little bit better defensively. They've you know, had more success

1447
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:19.800
<v Speaker 8>defensively San Francisco our Detroit has given up a ton

1448
01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:22.119
<v Speaker 8>of yards in the air of the last four weeks,

1449
01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:25.199
<v Speaker 8>and they've been good against the run. But McCaffrey's so

1450
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:27.680
<v Speaker 8>good coming out of the backfield catching the ball. I

1451
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:29.560
<v Speaker 8>just think that they'll need to be a plus one

1452
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 8>or a plus really probably a plus two to win

1453
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:32.039
<v Speaker 8>the game.

1454
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, and the Packers missed, as you know,

1455
01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:39.000
<v Speaker 1>two interception opportunities. One would have been a pick six.

1456
01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise I think that could have been a game much

1457
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:45.279
<v Speaker 1>like the Cowboys game. This is a fascinating matchup Tony,

1458
01:13:45.359 --> 01:13:47.840
<v Speaker 1>because you know, we've talked about Jared being the overall

1459
01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:51.119
<v Speaker 1>number one and the guy on the other sideline, the quarterback,

1460
01:13:51.279 --> 01:13:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was mister irrelevant. It could not be more of a contrast.

1461
01:13:55.199 --> 01:13:57.880
<v Speaker 1>You're a quarterbacks expert. What does that tell us about

1462
01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:58.399
<v Speaker 1>the position?

1463
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:02.399
<v Speaker 8>Well, it tells us that most people have no clue

1464
01:14:02.439 --> 01:14:05.399
<v Speaker 8>what they're doing when they're making these decisions of who's

1465
01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:10.720
<v Speaker 8>good and who's not. There's more failures in drafting quarterbacks

1466
01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:14.720
<v Speaker 8>and picking the five star quarterbacks and the elite eleven quarterbacks.

1467
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<v Speaker 8>And the one thing I found out over the years

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<v Speaker 8>is that I didn't play quarterback, couldn't play it if

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<v Speaker 8>my life depended upon it. But I got really good

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01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:24.760
<v Speaker 8>at coaching the position. And I think most of it

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01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:29.039
<v Speaker 8>was because I was extremely simplistic and the details of

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<v Speaker 8>how I went about doing it. And with that being said,

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01:14:32.680 --> 01:14:36.720
<v Speaker 8>brock Party is not a good quarterback. Brock Perty is

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01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:40.920
<v Speaker 8>a great quarterback. He's got tremendous pocket presence, he can

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<v Speaker 8>extend place, he's got a good arm, not a great arm,

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01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:48.520
<v Speaker 8>but a good arm, and he's doing People say, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>well he's just within the system. Well, you know what,

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01:14:50.640 --> 01:14:52.880
<v Speaker 8>Jimmy Garoppolo was in the system, it wasn't very good.

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<v Speaker 8>There's a lot of guys within systems that can't do

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01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:58.239
<v Speaker 8>what Rock Purty has done. And I think a lot

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01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:00.720
<v Speaker 8>of it comes back to people just never wanting to

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01:15:00.840 --> 01:15:04.359
<v Speaker 8>admit that they're wrong, which is a huge problem in

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01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:07.119
<v Speaker 8>our society where that you can show it to them

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01:15:07.359 --> 01:15:09.960
<v Speaker 8>in their face, watch it on video, and they still

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01:15:10.039 --> 01:15:13.600
<v Speaker 8>won't admit it. And that's the thing now, is that, well,

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<v Speaker 8>we didn't pick this guy. He wasn't the guy that

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01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:18.199
<v Speaker 8>we said was going to be the guy. They should

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01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:20.279
<v Speaker 8>have done this, They should have done that. So and

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01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:22.680
<v Speaker 8>so could have been better if they've taken him instead

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01:15:22.680 --> 01:15:24.840
<v Speaker 8>of admitting that this guy is a really good player

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<v Speaker 8>and just you know, hey, sometimes it happens.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>The way I did it in college football is here's

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<v Speaker 8>the way I said. Once every three quarterbacks that you take,

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<v Speaker 8>Once every three quarterbacks that you sign in college football,

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<v Speaker 8>one of them better be good. Two of them can

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01:15:41.239 --> 01:15:44.680
<v Speaker 8>be terrible, but one better be good. One of them

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01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:47.079
<v Speaker 8>better be able to win, and if so, you'll keep

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<v Speaker 8>your job. If you get ever get a time to

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<v Speaker 8>where you go two or three years without signing a

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<v Speaker 8>good one, you're in trouble, you're probably gonna get fired.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you mentioned being there when he was drafted,

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01:15:57.199 --> 01:15:59.359
<v Speaker 1>but of course people knocked him, said and you just

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01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:03.039
<v Speaker 1>talked about it. He's a system guy. I know, maybe

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01:16:03.079 --> 01:16:07.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm mincing words, are taking things too literally, but isn't

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01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:12.239
<v Speaker 1>every quality QB. Isn't every successful quarterback a system guy?

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01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Just a guy who's found the right system, because you

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01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:16.760
<v Speaker 1>don't just go out there and you know, let's run

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01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:18.159
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of this and a little bit of

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01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:19.199
<v Speaker 1>that and have success.

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<v Speaker 8>Now there's no doubt. And again it becomes if it

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01:16:22.840 --> 01:16:26.760
<v Speaker 8>becomes a catchphrase. It's people love catch phrases. They love

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01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.239
<v Speaker 8>something that's simple that you can repeat over and over

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01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:31.479
<v Speaker 8>again and you don't really have to have any facts

1515
01:16:31.520 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 8>to base it up. People say, well, Kyle Shanahan is

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01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:37.560
<v Speaker 8>this It's just like McVeagh. It's mcveigh's the greatest coach

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01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:40.600
<v Speaker 8>in the history of mankind. There's this whole new trend

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01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:44.000
<v Speaker 8>of these guru kid coaches that are, you know, in

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01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:46.119
<v Speaker 8>the twenties and their thirties, and they come up in

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01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:49.439
<v Speaker 8>their voy geniuses and all that stuff, and so anybody

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01:16:49.520 --> 01:16:53.920
<v Speaker 8>that has success they are and sometimes they're the ones

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01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:55.720
<v Speaker 8>that are responsible. They're the ones they hear it all

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01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.640
<v Speaker 8>the time, they take the credit for it, when in reality,

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01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:02.399
<v Speaker 8>it's a combination. Then it always has been a combination. Sure,

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01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:06.279
<v Speaker 8>it's a combination of you as a football coach going Okay,

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01:17:06.720 --> 01:17:07.720
<v Speaker 8>what can this guy do?

1527
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:09.199
<v Speaker 2>What's he good at?

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01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:10.000
<v Speaker 4>And then you.

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01:17:10.119 --> 01:17:13.000
<v Speaker 8>Develop the offense around that, not the other way around.

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01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:17.279
<v Speaker 8>And you know, you're dumb as a coach if you

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01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:20.800
<v Speaker 8>don't adjust what you do to what the skill set

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01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:22.840
<v Speaker 8>is of the best player that you have to play

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01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:27.359
<v Speaker 8>the position. That's why Lamar Jackson is to me, he's

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01:17:27.399 --> 01:17:31.359
<v Speaker 8>the MVP and it's not even close. And you know,

1535
01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:33.840
<v Speaker 8>people right now they're, well, you know he's not a

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01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:34.680
<v Speaker 8>true quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he is.

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<v Speaker 8>He's incredible in the pocket. He just happened to get

1539
01:17:39.560 --> 01:17:42.319
<v Speaker 8>a coordinator that came in and said, you know, let's

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01:17:42.359 --> 01:17:45.279
<v Speaker 8>take what this guy already does really well. Let him

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01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:47.279
<v Speaker 8>still scramble and make some plays, but not us have

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01:17:47.399 --> 01:17:51.520
<v Speaker 8>as many designated runs. And then let's improve his skill

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01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:53.680
<v Speaker 8>set in the pocket. And then let's put it all

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01:17:53.720 --> 01:17:56.159
<v Speaker 8>together and see what happens. And you know, the guy's

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<v Speaker 8>one of the best players to ever play the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, coach, great catching up with you. Let's do it

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01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:00.359
<v Speaker 1>again soon.

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<v Speaker 8>Thanks great to hear from you. To take care.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll do it for now. Thanks for joining us for

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<v Speaker 1>this special edition the best of the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Good night from the garage in Lexington.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you fly this plane and land it? Surely you

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01:18:14.199 --> 01:18:17.720
<v Speaker 3>can't be serious. I am serious, and don't call me Shirley.