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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like the United States men's basketball team is

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<v Speaker 2>half away from getting it done, which you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the expectation.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's what you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what we're supposed to do when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>Olympics is dominate in men's and women's basketball, and both

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<v Speaker 2>have done that thus far. It was a big upset

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<v Speaker 2>earlier Noah Lyles getting the bronze in the two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>meter that certainly was not what a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of folks expected.

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out he had COVID while running, which is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I feel like that's kind of impressive to

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<v Speaker 2>still metal while you're running despite being diagnosed with COVID

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<v Speaker 2>just two days prior, Although is it more surprising that

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<v Speaker 2>he was allowed to run? I mean again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get into the COVID conversation today, trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, shouldn't this kind of speak to where where

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<v Speaker 2>everybody is as far as like the worry about how

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous it actually is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I just think about Michael Jordan playing with

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<v Speaker 4>the flu, like yeah, and I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 4>that it's the same thing, because they're both their own

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<v Speaker 4>separate diseases.

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<v Speaker 3>But at this point, I mean, I mean dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that just just trying to get people riled up,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know that was very That was a trigger

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<v Speaker 2>statement that a lot of people like to throw out there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, during that awful time in our lives where

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<v Speaker 2>we had to deal with it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Hard to believe that that was four years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Gosh, it's starting to it's starting to feel like it

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot longer like it used to be, Like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that was two years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it was yesterday. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm to the point when it comes up, I'm just like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully we never have to deal with any of that again.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know who knows, right with the way things.

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<v Speaker 2>Have played out, you know, in our country, we're at

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<v Speaker 2>that point at least for me, where nothing really surprises me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean nothing at all. All Right, it is

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the hurricane that was headed to Florida when I

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<v Speaker 2>was heading back to Louisville has has left quite the impact.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, there's a story I want to get to

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<v Speaker 2>here in just a moment of a really sad story

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<v Speaker 2>about a local Louisville pilot who was flying to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bahamas and they just they just found out they've been

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<v Speaker 2>searching for his plane. He's been missing, and it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like they did find it, and obviously not good news

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<v Speaker 2>by any means. But the storm itself has, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>slowly but surely it's and you know, maybe I'm wrong here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I kind of feel like it's not getting the

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<v Speaker 2>same type of coverage that you would typically see from

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<v Speaker 2>a hurricane. That is, you know, I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tropical storm here that let me just double check here,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure I've got my numbers correct. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>said the storm made its second landfall last night on

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<v Speaker 2>the South Carolina coast, and his forecast to bring an

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<v Speaker 2>extra three to nine inches of rain on top of

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<v Speaker 2>what has already fallen. Maximum storm rainfall totals as high

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<v Speaker 2>as twenty five inches in South Carolina and fifteen inches

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<v Speaker 2>in North Carolina. Which, man, that's a lot of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of rain for the Carolinas, And I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like let's see. Yeah, it says here that

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<v Speaker 2>the Florida State Senator John Gruders, who represents Sarasota and

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<v Speaker 2>Manatee Counties, is calling for a state investigation into why

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<v Speaker 2>the floodwaters in sarasotaar is so deep and are lasting

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<v Speaker 2>so long. So yeah, I guess that's the area of

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<v Speaker 2>Florida that has been just completely I guess underwater, which

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, which is awful. But let's see here,

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a guest coming up in about fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be joined by Ken Spencer from Whas eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>So not a whole lot of time left here in

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<v Speaker 2>this first segment. But this is a story that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure how much it's gonna interest you guys, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's fascinating to me because for the first time ever,

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<v Speaker 2>there will be a NFL player playing in an NFL

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<v Speaker 2>game where you cannot purchase his jersey, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>former Ohio State star Marvin Harrison Junior. He is in

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<v Speaker 2>a weird and confusing legal battle with Fanatics. So every

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<v Speaker 2>NFL rookie, I guess has the option to sign a deal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he chose not to sign the NFL Players associationan's group

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<v Speaker 2>licensing agreement that is with Fanatics. And if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what Fanatics is, they they make jerseys and all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of team gear. I think they are, in fact

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest. I think they are the biggest you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call them. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think they just sell jerseys and team gear, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know that kind of stuff. And I think they've actually

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<v Speaker 2>put a lot of a lot of companies out of

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<v Speaker 2>business who that was kind of their thing. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>tricky because apparently he has his own like group, his

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<v Speaker 2>own LLC, the Official Harrison Collection, and it's his father

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<v Speaker 2>who kind of runs it. Of course, who is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin Harrison Senior, legendary player himself, but yeah, the Official

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison Collection LLC. They're registered in the state of Pennsylvania

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<v Speaker 2>in February of twenty twenty three, before they before the

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<v Speaker 2>entity signed its first deal with Fanatics. So Fanatics has

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<v Speaker 2>followed a lawsuit against Marvin Harrison Junior, claiming that they

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<v Speaker 2>do have a signature from him to where they can

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<v Speaker 2>they can sell his jerseys. However, Harrison is claiming he

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<v Speaker 2>never signed it, but somebody you know from his camp

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<v Speaker 2>apparently did. But in the last and at least the

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<v Speaker 2>last twenty years, as of course, jersey making has become,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a big deal. No top draft pick in

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<v Speaker 2>any major US pro men's sport has ever had his

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<v Speaker 2>jersey unavailable the first time he plays in a game.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is what's going to happen here with Marvin

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison Junior because of this current ongoing situation, which I

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what would make him like if every

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<v Speaker 2>other NFL rookie and not only this current class, but

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<v Speaker 2>in previous years, has agreed to sign the same agree

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<v Speaker 2>like I just I don't know, does he feel like

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<v Speaker 2>he's entitled.

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<v Speaker 3>To more money. This whole thing is confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>However, again, when I saw that he will be the

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<v Speaker 2>first ever US men's pro athlete in the last twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years to not have like, no right now can buy

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<v Speaker 2>an Arizona Cardinal Marvin Harrison Junior jersey, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>people will live and they'll survive without being able to

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<v Speaker 2>buy it, and eventually he'll probably have a jersey you

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<v Speaker 2>can purchase. But I just found this to be very,

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<v Speaker 2>very bizarre, and it sounds like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>are blaming it on his father for I guess you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is from Darren Heidner, who is a sports and

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<v Speaker 2>business attorney. He says, it seems Marvin Harrison Senior signed

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<v Speaker 2>with Fanatics as an authorized rep of the Official Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>Collection LLC. Harrison Junior is the sole member of the

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<v Speaker 2>LLC Harrison Junior hopes to escape power of personal liability

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the corporate veil. So not a good look necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody involved, it seems. But yeah, for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time ever, maybe keep that in the back of your

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<v Speaker 2>mind for some useless trivia that may come up at

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<v Speaker 2>some point in your life, right like who is the

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<v Speaker 2>only men's professional top draft pick that when he played

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<v Speaker 2>his first snap as a pro athlete, Jersey was not available.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know it's gonna be Marvin Harrison junior the

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<v Speaker 2>more you know, all right, So, Nolan Smith is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the many names we talked about quite a bit

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the last couple of years when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the Louisville basketball just you know, clown show. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not calling Nolan a clown, and certainly he wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach, but you know, everything everything from the Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>basketball program for the most part in the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years was just an absolute mess. And again I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not blaming at all on him, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he necessarily helped himself with how he went about some things.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I I don't know for sure firsthand

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<v Speaker 2>as far as what exactly transpired with him allegedly leaking

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<v Speaker 2>out information that was not true, and that was that

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Paine was going to be fired after the Kentucky game.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you remember, Eric Crawford did a write up

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<v Speaker 2>on sort of like the you know, I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>final in depth piece on this staff, this regime and

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<v Speaker 2>sort of how it all kind of came to an end,

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<v Speaker 2>and Eric included a little nugget in that piece that

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<v Speaker 2>referenced that the University of Louisville did their own internal

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<v Speaker 2>investigation as far as how information was leaking out that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't true.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one thing if there's a leak and it's because

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<v Speaker 2>somebody just had loose lips. It's another thing if there's

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<v Speaker 2>an alleged leak of information that they know for sure

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<v Speaker 2>is not true. And that was that Kenny was to

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<v Speaker 2>be was It was a for sure done deal that

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny was going to be let go after the Kentucky game.

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<v Speaker 2>And they investigated the university, not just the athletic department,

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<v Speaker 2>and they discovered that the source of that leak was

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan Smith, and they alerted Kenny Payne of that, and

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny chose not to take action. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it would have been a good look for Kenny at

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<v Speaker 2>that point to fire Nolan, but clearly they had a

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<v Speaker 2>falling out and they didn't work closely together towards the end,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that led to people saying, hey, he

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<v Speaker 2>tried to sabotage Kenny Payne. He was telling people that

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<v Speaker 2>can Paine was going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be fired.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's no like proof of that. But I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if the if the university themselves is going

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<v Speaker 2>to do their own investigation, and there and and and that,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is their finding. Like, I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 2>out to get Nolan. I think that's what they that's

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<v Speaker 2>what they believe with the information that they have. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's because you know, I think some of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that put it out there, they had no problem telling

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<v Speaker 2>U of L who gave him that info because they

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<v Speaker 2>felt duped as well. I mean, I'm not gonna mention

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<v Speaker 2>who was, but there was a college basketball uh you

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<v Speaker 2>know insider if you will, that that was you know

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<v Speaker 2>that is usually pretty spot on, and he was. He

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<v Speaker 2>was sharing that he's hearing that Kenny Payne will be

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<v Speaker 2>out and that Nolan Smith's going to be the interim coach.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know who told him that? Apparently it was

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan Smith and it wasn't true. So you know that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a no no. I mean, and I wondered if

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<v Speaker 2>Nolan would be hirable as as an assistant coach at

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<v Speaker 2>the Division one level, and as of now he is not.

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<v Speaker 2>There was if you remember, there was that he was

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<v Speaker 2>somehow that didn't work out. And I actually thought that

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<v Speaker 2>that was going to be like the perfect scenario for him,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, I I feel it just seems it

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, he's my age. You know, he's thirty

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five, thirty six years old, so it's not as

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<v Speaker 2>if he's a young kid, but you know, he is

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<v Speaker 2>young to be basically the associate head coach of a

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<v Speaker 2>men's it's just not many guys that age. And at Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he was there forever. He was there four

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<v Speaker 2>years as a player, went to the NBA, and then

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<v Speaker 2>got right into coaching at Duke. So, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>just the way he handled himself at times, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like he could have you know, he just

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<v Speaker 2>didn't seem like he was really going about it the

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<v Speaker 2>right way. And I don't know Nolan ever met him.

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<v Speaker 2>He blocked me on Twitter. He had family members reach

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<v Speaker 2>out to me and you know, tell me what they

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<v Speaker 2>thought of me. But I never engaged because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what would that do for me, But I hope it

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<v Speaker 2>works out for him because you know, I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's still a relatively young guy when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>to the business of college basketball. And when he came

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<v Speaker 2>to Louisville Man, he had the he was believed to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of the top upcoming assistants, a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened with Johnny Dwkins, but Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>Dawkins was really close to Nolan's father, Derek Smith, who

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<v Speaker 2>of course has passed away. They were teammates in the

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<v Speaker 2>NBA for a little while, and I thought that would

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<v Speaker 2>have been a perfect landing spot, and somehow that fell through. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>now there are reports that Nolan Smith is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be joining Penny Hardaway's staff in some capacity. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if that says an assistant coach or if that's

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<v Speaker 2>just as like a supplemental staffer. But you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope he does get an opportunity. Uh you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't have any reason to to to wish him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, failure and and and whatnot. I mean, hated

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<v Speaker 2>that it played out the way that it did, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just of all the things that that

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<v Speaker 2>it sad that that was one of the hardest for

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<v Speaker 2>me is because I just felt like Nolan Smith was

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that like him. Coming home to coach under Kenny

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<v Speaker 2>Payne at Louisville was like something you see in a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and you know, the movie ended up being

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<v Speaker 2>a horror movie when it comes to the basketball program.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, I'm not blaming Nolan specifically for that, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he certainly didn't handle things the right way,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would and I would imagine that even he

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<v Speaker 2>would he would say that to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll see. All right, quick break, we'll come back

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side, and welcome in mister Kent Spencer

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<v Speaker 2>from w HS eleven right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right coffee and company rolling along here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us, and

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<v Speaker 2>we now bring in a guest, mister Kent Spencer from

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<v Speaker 2>WHS eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>Long time, no talk, Ken. How's your summer going, brother?

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<v Speaker 4>It went really really well. And then I'm one of

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<v Speaker 4>those parents today that had three different schools, three different

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<v Speaker 4>kids in three different schools with three different start times.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, that sounds like an absolute nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean it's a struggle. I mean, let's just say things

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<v Speaker 2>go smoothly with you know, you know, getting everybody that

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<v Speaker 2>that's just a lot, man, that's that's a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you know how it's aggressive. Yeah, and you have

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<v Speaker 4>to have there has to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be constant communication and it's super aggressive.

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<v Speaker 4>At the We've got two out of three home, so

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<v Speaker 4>at least we're chopping wood.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's I mean, that's I mean, so far, so good,

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, it does seem as if, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>at least as of now, things have been fairly smooth,

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<v Speaker 2>especially considering last year's big, big mess when everybody tried

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<v Speaker 2>to go back to school. But uh, I guess i'll

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<v Speaker 2>before we get into some football stuff, just any any

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<v Speaker 2>takeaways from what you saw last uh last week in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas. I know you weren't there, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing Pat Kelsey's team for the first time, tough to

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<v Speaker 2>really know what to take from it as far as

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<v Speaker 2>the competition they played against. But a brand new team,

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<v Speaker 2>I think most fans myself included, feel pretty pleased with

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<v Speaker 2>what Pat Kelsey is going to be working with in

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<v Speaker 2>his first season here at Louisville.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean, honestly, like as far as massive, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>takeaways from it, I think the biggest one for me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Nick, is just the fact that they looked organized.

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<v Speaker 4>They look like they had a plan on both offensive

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<v Speaker 4>defense when it came to like result against competition. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't take much away from it because, like I think

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<v Speaker 4>in that first game, Karence Oakmalspeak, you know, said like Nick,

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<v Speaker 4>I got that, dude, that's old. As far as that competition, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I just don't think they're going to go on a diet,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know what they do, they have a plan.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to play fast, you know. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>all of that is such a positive sign. Like if

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<v Speaker 4>you were feeling good about the momento, I think you're

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think that even got ramped up just

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<v Speaker 4>just a little bit like it, right, you Sure there's

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<v Speaker 4>still there's more hope for the future.

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<v Speaker 3>No doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think, you know, just as you made the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing you said as far as looking organized, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they they've got an identity.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you can see that there's gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Be clearly a style of play that they want to

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<v Speaker 2>play at uh, and little things I think jump out

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit more than they used to. Whenever you

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<v Speaker 2>went through as a fan, what what we saw the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years, not a whole lot, lot of organization,

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<v Speaker 2>not really being sure as far as what they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be as far as a team, their style and

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. But yeah, basketball, the bar

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<v Speaker 2>said pretty low, and I feel pretty confident that Pat

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's going to be able to give to give this

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<v Speaker 2>fan base a lot to be excited about moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can't remember a time at least in

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<v Speaker 2>my lifetime as a Louisville fan where there was a

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<v Speaker 2>situation quite like this one with a brand new team.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally everybody from start to finish is brand new here.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the type of seasons you had the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years or something a lot of us

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<v Speaker 2>never thought was possible. So there's gonna be wins against

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<v Speaker 2>teams we've never heard of, and we'll we'll probably be

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating it like it was something substantial just because of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what happened in in the last the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. But let's let's switch gears to football.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start with with Kentucky. Here the news last week

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<v Speaker 2>they had to vacate really an entire season with some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that happened, you know, pre and I all that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff. I guess any thoughts as to UK's

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<v Speaker 2>response to it, or maybe lack thereof when you heard

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<v Speaker 2>about this happening as far as the decision from the

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<v Speaker 2>NC DOUBLEA, did you expect to hear Barnhardt Stoops talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it at all? I know that's been a topic

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<v Speaker 2>with some I'm not really sure what they would say

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<v Speaker 2>other than maybe just acknowledging that they worked through it

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<v Speaker 2>with the NC DOUBLEA and this is what's happened. But

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<v Speaker 2>just curious kind of your takeaway from that from that

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<v Speaker 2>situation where they had to vacate a very special season.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, look, that news came out on media Day,

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<v Speaker 4>and that news came out after Mark Stoops talked to

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I personally, I personally feel like that news should have

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<v Speaker 4>come out before Mark Stoops took to the podium, so

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<v Speaker 4>he had an opportunity to ask questions. You know a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of times on media day. It's Barnhart is that's

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<v Speaker 4>like one of his press conference days, right, sure he

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<v Speaker 4>goes there. Well he didn't. He didn't hold that same

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<v Speaker 4>news conference on that particular day, and I think that

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<v Speaker 4>he should have been there to be able to answer

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<v Speaker 4>some questions. I mean, you know, to be quite honest,

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<v Speaker 4>like we all knew what the situation was, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>with Chris Rodriguez and everything, you know, from a long

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<v Speaker 4>time ago. But to be honest with you, you know, Nick,

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<v Speaker 4>I could have forgot about the case because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Rodriguez has been gone for a couple of years now,

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<v Speaker 4>and so like you and then you were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is what it was and this and when it

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<v Speaker 4>comes to vacating wins and you know all of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, everybody can probably have their own opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, to be quite honest with you, you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>kind of goes with with me in the twenty thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>National title, Like I remember that I was there. I

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<v Speaker 4>watched him cut down the bets, you know, and that

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<v Speaker 4>year like I watched him win those games. So but

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<v Speaker 4>but I do think that those two gentlemen should have

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<v Speaker 4>answered questions that particular day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think going back to even before Nil and

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<v Speaker 2>the portal, whenever it was a much different world, whenever

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<v Speaker 2>you would hear of somebody cheating, somebody getting money and

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<v Speaker 2>permissible benefits, I think there was a lot of fake outrage.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody truly cared. I think there was

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<v Speaker 2>always just a belief that maybe not everyone is cheating,

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<v Speaker 2>but like there's clearly some things happening to where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>guys are getting paid. There is a benefit here and

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<v Speaker 2>there that is taking place, that's leading to certain kids

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<v Speaker 2>deciding where they want to go, that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But now, man, I don't know if anybody could even

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<v Speaker 2>fake it that they're bothered about this kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>because now you can. I mean, it's such a high

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<v Speaker 2>dollar business. Now, there's so much money involved in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's right in front of our face. The schools

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be paying these players here soon, which

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<v Speaker 2>is which is something that you know, that's that's just

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<v Speaker 2>unheard of ten years ago, and now here we go

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<v Speaker 2>it's about to happen. But with all that said, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Stoops, I'm just curious someone who's covered this program,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know you familiar with how he how he's

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<v Speaker 2>gone about things. I kind of feel like he would

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<v Speaker 2>have been somebody that would have wanted to be upfront

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<v Speaker 2>about it and be direct, and because I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>he's usually pretty spot on when he when he gets

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<v Speaker 2>all the right things and controls things, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>think for him to be silent, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise. Do you have any theorists do you think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there and again I'm just asking you to guess

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe kind of read his mind. Do you think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a chance he could be unhappy with them

423
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<v Speaker 2>deciding to, you know, take that as as as the

424
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<v Speaker 2>punishment and Vakate wins. Again, I'm asking you to read

425
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<v Speaker 2>his mind. But I just feel like this is kind

426
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<v Speaker 2>of not the way those two guys specifically would go

427
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<v Speaker 2>about this kind of thing.

428
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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, UK when they when they released the statement,

429
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<v Speaker 4>they released video messages from doctor Eli Cappoluto and Mitch Barnhart.

430
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<v Speaker 4>I would imagine this decision to hold that news until

431
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<v Speaker 4>after media day. I don't think that was a Mark

432
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<v Speaker 4>Stoop's decision. I think that was above his pay grade.

433
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<v Speaker 4>And so you know there I think have been times

434
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<v Speaker 4>in the past where you know, you you think these

435
00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:01.839
<v Speaker 4>coaches have all this power, but sometimes you know, the

436
00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.680
<v Speaker 4>powers that be they let you know how you're going

437
00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:06.839
<v Speaker 4>to handle that. I mean, uh, you know a couple

438
00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.160
<v Speaker 4>of years ago, remember when it was the football spat

439
00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:11.079
<v Speaker 4>between John Calipari and Mark Stoops.

440
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, okay, well.

441
00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:19.680
<v Speaker 4>John Calipari wanted to issue an apology. I have seen

442
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<v Speaker 4>the apology. It was even like it had a complete

443
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<v Speaker 4>graphic and everything that he was ready to go out

444
00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.839
<v Speaker 4>that day and his boss told him not to send that.

445
00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:35.960
<v Speaker 4>So like, sometimes those things go above your pay grade

446
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:37.880
<v Speaker 4>and there's nothing you can do about it. I mean,

447
00:21:38.319 --> 00:21:42.960
<v Speaker 4>if we look at like thee where we all are nowadays,

448
00:21:43.000 --> 00:21:45.720
<v Speaker 4>within I l and all this stuff. I know of

449
00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:50.680
<v Speaker 4>two local head coaches that flat out come out and say, look,

450
00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:54.160
<v Speaker 4>it's about the money. This is now pay for play.

451
00:21:54.319 --> 00:21:57.759
<v Speaker 4>Those two coaches, one is Mark Stops, the other's Jeff Walls.

452
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<v Speaker 4>Everybody else likes the tap dance around it. Yeah, but

453
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<v Speaker 4>not those two. Those two are you know, all about it.

454
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<v Speaker 4>And so that's one of the things why I you know,

455
00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.799
<v Speaker 4>he probably would have been upfront about this, but you know,

456
00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:12.400
<v Speaker 4>you never know.

457
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think when it comes to Stoops's comments. I

458
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<v Speaker 2>guess this was right around the time the SEC media

459
00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Day's wrapped up, and if anything I can, I can

460
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<v Speaker 2>appreciate and respect the full transparency. You know, I think

461
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<v Speaker 2>there's probably some coaches that probably feel the way Stoops

462
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<v Speaker 2>feels as far as his comments about man, I'm not

463
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<v Speaker 2>sure how much longer I can do this. You know,

464
00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:33.920
<v Speaker 2>it's just all about raising money now. I mean, do

465
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<v Speaker 2>you get the sense that maybe not most coaches, but

466
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<v Speaker 2>I've bet a lot of coaches feel the exact same way.

467
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<v Speaker 2>But they feel as if they were to be so

468
00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:43.119
<v Speaker 2>honest and transparent that it might you know, it might

469
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<v Speaker 2>come off the way, it might come off as if

470
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<v Speaker 2>they're unappreciative of their job and that you know, the

471
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:50.960
<v Speaker 2>money that's been raised hasn't been enough. Again, like you

472
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<v Speaker 2>don't hear most coaches say the kind of things that

473
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<v Speaker 2>Stoops had said right after media day at the SEC.

474
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<v Speaker 2>When it comes to just the new this is such

475
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<v Speaker 2>a new job for these guys now again, they make

476
00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:01.200
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money to where I feel like asking

477
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:03.839
<v Speaker 2>them to make some adjustments is not asking too much. However,

478
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<v Speaker 2>I will acknowledge that that job head coach at a

479
00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:11.000
<v Speaker 2>major university for football and men's basketball, and even women's basketball.

480
00:23:11.599 --> 00:23:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Throw baseball in there.

481
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<v Speaker 4>Two.

482
00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Heck, all the sports to some extent, Like these jobs

483
00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:15.480
<v Speaker 3>are different.

484
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:19.799
<v Speaker 4>Now, you know, here's what I think about these coaches.

485
00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:23.359
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, you've got coaches now, high profile

486
00:23:23.440 --> 00:23:25.680
<v Speaker 4>coaches that are flat out and just getting out of

487
00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:30.240
<v Speaker 4>the industry. And this is the reason why. And you know,

488
00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:32.119
<v Speaker 4>part of it is it is not that you have

489
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<v Speaker 4>to beg for me this or this. It's it's what

490
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:38.000
<v Speaker 4>you have to do to get the money. I've seen

491
00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:40.759
<v Speaker 4>coaches with boosters and they look miserable.

492
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<v Speaker 3>That's a good point. I have to now.

493
00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:48.400
<v Speaker 4>People that are donating campaign money. Hey, people that people

494
00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:51.039
<v Speaker 4>that are donating all this money, guess what they want.

495
00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.960
<v Speaker 4>They want to know who their money's going to. They

496
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:58.000
<v Speaker 4>want access to the program. That's why, you know, I

497
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<v Speaker 4>used to feel a certain amount of way when I

498
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<v Speaker 4>go to an AAU event. I pretty much feel that

499
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.799
<v Speaker 4>way twenty four to seven and a lot of instances

500
00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:09.720
<v Speaker 4>like it's just different. And I'm not saying like, you know,

501
00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:13.920
<v Speaker 4>I've always been about players that should be paid, but

502
00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:17.759
<v Speaker 4>the schools now, you know, when they start paying the players,

503
00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:19.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, I hope it makes it, you know, feel

504
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.319
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more legit than what it it kind

505
00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:26.279
<v Speaker 4>of currently feels like. And by the way, I don't

506
00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:27.960
<v Speaker 4>know how this thing can continue.

507
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:29.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it doesn't seem sustainable.

508
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.839
<v Speaker 4>How is anybody getting a return on investment? You know

509
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.039
<v Speaker 4>what I mean? Like, what are you getting? And you

510
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:39.319
<v Speaker 4>know the kind of money that we know that's kind

511
00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:42.759
<v Speaker 4>of been dealt around with some of these players, How

512
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<v Speaker 4>in the world can that continue?

513
00:24:44.519 --> 00:24:45.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

514
00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:48.759
<v Speaker 4>I can't see it, but well, you know, we're just

515
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:50.559
<v Speaker 4>kind of riding the wave at this point.

516
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I hadn't given it that. I hadn't thought

517
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<v Speaker 3>about it that way.

518
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:56.799
<v Speaker 2>As far as some of these coaches, when when when

519
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:58.839
<v Speaker 2>you think of the conversations they have to have with

520
00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:00.599
<v Speaker 2>these people who they need their mo money, and these

521
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.799
<v Speaker 2>people know that that money, that their money is needed,

522
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of the smoothing and and whatnot. Like

523
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:08.240
<v Speaker 2>some of these coaches, especially those that have an ego

524
00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>that have had a lot of success, man, that is

525
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:11.400
<v Speaker 2>probably the last thing on earth they want to do

526
00:25:11.599 --> 00:25:14.160
<v Speaker 2>is to go, you know, kind of kiss ass and

527
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:16.160
<v Speaker 2>suck up to somebody and hopes that they'll open up

528
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:18.359
<v Speaker 2>the check book and give them money to get players.

529
00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:20.039
<v Speaker 2>But that's kind of the name of the game now.

530
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's it's so different.

531
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<v Speaker 4>And look and and let's just you know, and maybe

532
00:25:25.519 --> 00:25:29.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm completely wrong, maybe, but let's just be honest when

533
00:25:29.599 --> 00:25:32.599
<v Speaker 4>it comes to Lowell and Kentucky. You know, our our

534
00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:36.319
<v Speaker 4>main programs that that we cover, they got some deep pockets.

535
00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 4>They ain't that deep, yeah, and they ain't that every year.

536
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Eventually, years in people are going to say, look, I'll

537
00:25:43.480 --> 00:25:45.680
<v Speaker 2>continue to support, but I've given a lot of money

538
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.160
<v Speaker 2>and things have been okay, but man, like there's not

539
00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:49.880
<v Speaker 2>really a whole lot to show for that. Like, eventually

540
00:25:49.920 --> 00:25:53.119
<v Speaker 2>it's just gonna again, as you said, it's it's as

541
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:54.720
<v Speaker 2>you alluded to, I should say, it's just not it's

542
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>not sustainable. But you know, well, we'll ride the wave

543
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:00.319
<v Speaker 2>until until it's not. All right, let's switch gears to

544
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.559
<v Speaker 2>to Louisville. Here any surprise as far as where Louisville

545
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:05.960
<v Speaker 2>came in in the preseason acc poll, I think they

546
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.559
<v Speaker 2>came in at number five, not featuring the coaches poll.

547
00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Preseason rankings don't really mean a whole lot, especially in football,

548
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:14.000
<v Speaker 2>now that we actually have rankings that come out a

549
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:16.400
<v Speaker 2>little bit further after the midway point with the college

550
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 2>full playoff rankings. But just any any thoughts as far

551
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:20.799
<v Speaker 2>as what you're hearing the buzz about Louisville, maybe lack

552
00:26:20.839 --> 00:26:22.319
<v Speaker 2>thereof coming off a ten win season.

553
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, look, I think a couple of things

554
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:32.400
<v Speaker 4>that you know, everything is so new to them. I

555
00:26:32.440 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 4>think nationally, I think, you know, we see Tyler Schuck

556
00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:40.599
<v Speaker 4>as he seems to be a really good quarterback that

557
00:26:40.680 --> 00:26:41.559
<v Speaker 4>just can't stay healthy.

558
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:42.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

559
00:26:42.920 --> 00:26:45.839
<v Speaker 4>Well, okay, so now you're just really rolling the dice

560
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 4>on a dude that's never been able to stay healthy.

561
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.039
<v Speaker 4>He's just go all of a sudden be able to

562
00:26:50.039 --> 00:26:54.319
<v Speaker 4>stay healthy this year. And so you know, I don't

563
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 4>know if that's any trepidation. I mean, and if we're

564
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.640
<v Speaker 4>being honest, they lost a lot on the offensive line

565
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:00.720
<v Speaker 4>from a year ago, and that offense blind was was

566
00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:03.200
<v Speaker 4>really good last year, especially that running game and some

567
00:27:03.279 --> 00:27:06.519
<v Speaker 4>running backs. I mean, like you're you're really betting on

568
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 4>that they hit home runs in the transfer portal, that

569
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 4>all of those guys that they brought in are gonna

570
00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 4>be able to hit and and to be able to gel.

571
00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:18.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, I remember last year they weren't picked high

572
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 4>in the preseason polls either won ten games played, you know,

573
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 4>in the a SEC championship game, and so you're right,

574
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:29.640
<v Speaker 4>I I'm not surprised that they didn't, you know, they

575
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 4>they ended up what is that, I think fourth or

576
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.160
<v Speaker 4>fifth picked in the a C C or something like

577
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:36.200
<v Speaker 4>that had into the into the preseason pol yep. So

578
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 4>I'm not that doesn't that's not crazy shocking to me.

579
00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.240
<v Speaker 4>But it's it's like this, it's this amazing thing that

580
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:46.960
<v Speaker 4>they get to try to prove it on the field,

581
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.640
<v Speaker 4>you know, starting in that first week of the season

582
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 4>on through the rest of this thing.

583
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think at times I found myself as

584
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:58.759
<v Speaker 2>a Louisville fan thinking, you know, could this be used

585
00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 2>as you know, is this legitimate bulletin bourb material to

586
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 2>motivate this team or is it?

587
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Or am I manufacturing that right?

588
00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Because I think, you know, nobody's saying that they're lousy,

589
00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:10.519
<v Speaker 2>nobody's claiming they're going to take a huge step step back.

590
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:13.000
<v Speaker 2>The reality is they benefited from the way the schedule

591
00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.359
<v Speaker 2>aligned last year. There were not I mean, they they

592
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 2>got a good you know, they got a good break

593
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>from the ACC As far as the opponents that they

594
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 2>had to play.

595
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 3>That's nothing they can do about that.

596
00:28:21.599 --> 00:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>But also, you know, just to see some I think

597
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Miami continues to get the benefit of the doubt. I

598
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.599
<v Speaker 2>think people are expecting enc he stated to be good

599
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.880
<v Speaker 2>once again. But I think from a personnel standpoint, you know,

600
00:28:30.920 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 2>they've got a chance to be to be you know,

601
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>a good team once again. But it does really come

602
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.559
<v Speaker 2>down to Tyler Schuck. What have you heard from folks

603
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>as far as what they expect out of him. I

604
00:28:39.640 --> 00:28:42.000
<v Speaker 2>know they're not going to run him the way he was.

605
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:44.200
<v Speaker 2>You use him the same way he was utilized at

606
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:46.240
<v Speaker 2>both Oregon at Texas Tech, and I think that's why

607
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 2>they believe they can keep him healthier. But just any

608
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:50.559
<v Speaker 2>any buzz you're hearing as far as what they think

609
00:28:50.599 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 2>they have with him at quarterback, I.

610
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.279
<v Speaker 4>Mean, I've seen several of the open practices. I mean,

611
00:28:56.359 --> 00:29:00.880
<v Speaker 4>he does he throws a nice ball to have a

612
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 4>really good command of the offense, his chemistry with the receivers.

613
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, you get a new quarterback and you know,

614
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 4>like Chris Bell was their leading attorney received by a lot,

615
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 4>and so you're adding pieces like uh, Jacquary Brooks and

616
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.599
<v Speaker 4>Colin lacy and stuff like that. So how's this chemistry

617
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:20.359
<v Speaker 4>gonna be? It seems fine in practice. We'll see when

618
00:29:20.400 --> 00:29:23.440
<v Speaker 4>the lights, you know, get bright and you know there's

619
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 4>there's fans in the seats. But every you know, from

620
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 4>everything that I've seen, he looks.

621
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 3>He looks good.

622
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.839
<v Speaker 4>Now, let me say this. I thought Jack Plumber looked

623
00:29:31.839 --> 00:29:35.400
<v Speaker 4>really good last year in practice, and so really you

624
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 4>really don't know until you get you know, against the

625
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.839
<v Speaker 4>opponents and in the stadium. But you know, even like

626
00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 4>his running ability, you know, I know they they weren't

627
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 4>running a ton like he did in some of his

628
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:50.240
<v Speaker 4>previous stops, but you know that they used Plumber's legs

629
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:54.279
<v Speaker 4>pretty effectively last year in certain situations. So I mean

630
00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:57.359
<v Speaker 4>I could still see them doing some of that this

631
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 4>year because you know, like even last year, I think

632
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<v Speaker 4>everybody was like, look, Jack Plumber better stay healthy because

633
00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:06.759
<v Speaker 4>you know there's a drop off after him. Well it's

634
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:08.799
<v Speaker 4>the same, you know, the feeling I think, you know

635
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.680
<v Speaker 4>is the same this year going into it, so they

636
00:30:11.759 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 4>desperately need to keep him healthy. I still think he'll

637
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.279
<v Speaker 4>run in spots, but you know, so far, like he

638
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:18.400
<v Speaker 4>looks apart from my.

639
00:30:18.400 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Eyes, yeah, I mean I it with the portal, man.

640
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 2>You really just never know. There's guys that have come

641
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 2>me like Grendo last year was not viewed as one

642
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 2>of the big time editions in the portal. He was

643
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of a guy that came in a little bit

644
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 2>later than others and just a nice piece who played

645
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>at Wisconsin and then towards the end of the year.

646
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was he was their best running back

647
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and has now got a chance to play on Sundays.

648
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 2>So you you know, you never really know how some

649
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>of these guys are gonna how it's how it's all,

650
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:43.720
<v Speaker 2>how it's all gonna work out. All right, Well, we

651
00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:45.839
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you giving you giving us a lot of your

652
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>time into your very busy guy can't always great to

653
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.519
<v Speaker 2>catch up. Godspeed with with the smooth the smooth rest

654
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.640
<v Speaker 2>of the afternoon, with getting the kids back from school.

655
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<v Speaker 4>Well well I can, I can. I can successfully report

656
00:30:58.039 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 4>we were three for three, all right.

657
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:00.839
<v Speaker 3>Three for three.

658
00:31:01.720 --> 00:31:03.880
<v Speaker 4>We've got them all in the house before five o'clock.

659
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh heck, yeah, that's a win. That's a win. Great

660
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 2>way to get the school year started. Thanks Ken, I

661
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:09.400
<v Speaker 2>appreciate you, man.

662
00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Thanks buddy, appreciate it, right, take care that is kid.

663
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 2>Spencer from WHS eleven. How about that JCPS coming through

664
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.039
<v Speaker 2>getting it done. I mean, I'm sure other families won't

665
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>have the exact same success that the Spencer family had,

666
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.440
<v Speaker 2>but hey again, I've not seen anything that tells me

667
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 2>that we've got anything close to the mess that we

668
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>had last year. And also, real quick, I mentioned earlier

669
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:32.839
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the hour that Team USA was about

670
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 2>to you know, you know, win the gold or whatever

671
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 2>and keep it rolling. And you know, I can make

672
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:42.480
<v Speaker 2>a fool of myself often it happens. I totally had

673
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:46.279
<v Speaker 2>the score wrong. I thought US was up twenty on Serbia.

674
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Turns out they were getting beat by more than twenty

675
00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 2>by Serbia. And now they're on this crazy run with

676
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 2>two minutes left as Lebron James just knife through the

677
00:31:53.839 --> 00:31:56.960
<v Speaker 2>lane to give them an eighty nine to eighty six lead.

678
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Serbia crumbling. Yokic of course part of that team, and

679
00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people clown in this Team USA team

680
00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>as if they as they were getting drummed, and now

681
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 2>they've made some big comeback here, so who knows. I mean,

682
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>still a little bit of time left, but another turnover

683
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>from Serbia and another break here as Team USA now

684
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>has a five point lead as Steph Curry going to

685
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 2>the free throw line for a potential and one. So

686
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:23.960
<v Speaker 2>all right, quick break, we'll come back, wrap up be

687
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>four o'clock our right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

688
00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I gotta tell you the commercial break there might have

689
00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 2>been the most into the Olympics I've ever been for basketball.

690
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>A rare situation has has played itself out here, and

691
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to like, here we go. Yeah, it looks

692
00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:46.279
<v Speaker 2>like they're will I was a little bit behind because

693
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I hit pause whenever we were wrapping up the interview

694
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:50.559
<v Speaker 2>with Kent because I didn't want to, you know, I

695
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to be rude, and I'll be paying attention

696
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 2>to a guest who's given us, given us his time.

697
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:59.160
<v Speaker 2>But it looks as if this thing is is well, yeah,

698
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>it's over. The Team USA did in fact come back

699
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 2>and win. I'm not sure how much they were down.

700
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I know it was more than twenty points. And it

701
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 2>was a rare situation to where you were feeling as if, oh,

702
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 2>are they gonna lose this game? And look, they've lost

703
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 2>games before, but I mean they were getting killed. It

704
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:18.519
<v Speaker 2>looked like it was it was gonna be the end,

705
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 2>and they come all the way back. Jowell and Beiie

706
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>played huge in this run and they knock off Jokic

707
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 2>and Serbia. And usually when you're watching Team USA play,

708
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:33.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's good to see, you know, the United

709
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.079
<v Speaker 2>States dominate something, right, better than being dominated.

710
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:37.599
<v Speaker 3>You want to win.

711
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Everybody would love to be dominant in something, but it's

712
00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.119
<v Speaker 2>not always that interesting when it comes to like, you know,

713
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.799
<v Speaker 2>excitement and like, oh, what's gonna happen. You kind of know,

714
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 2>night in and night out, when you watch the United

715
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 2>States men's basketball team play against other countries, they're gonna win,

716
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>and more often than not, they're gonna be dominant.

717
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 3>And that was not the case here.

718
00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were getting clowned all over Twitter by everybody,

719
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>including you know, national analysts and whatnot, and a big

720
00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:03.559
<v Speaker 2>run to come from behind.

721
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 3>They got up five.

722
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>That was the lead when we went to break, and

723
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 2>then there was an and one from Serbia and then

724
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant hit a clutch bucket and that I think

725
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 2>extended it to four, and then after that Yokics got

726
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.639
<v Speaker 2>a bucket. It was two, and then they were forced

727
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 2>to foul late and some clutch free throws knocked down

728
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.760
<v Speaker 2>by I believe it was Steph Curry, and then Serbia

729
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 2>was just you know, out of time, and the United

730
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 2>States held on to win. So I don't know like

731
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 2>it would have been the end of the world, Like

732
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:36.159
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have been devastated to see them lose, but

733
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.079
<v Speaker 2>to know that it looked like they were going to

734
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.280
<v Speaker 2>and then you know, you see what's on display, meaning

735
00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>that the best basketball players on planet Earth are from.

736
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:46.800
<v Speaker 3>The United States, and this is what we do. This

737
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:47.719
<v Speaker 3>is we dominate.

738
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad I did go back and check because

739
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I sent it like a real idiot, which

740
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I do. I'm sure I sound like that often, but

741
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I sounded like a real idiot whenever I

742
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:57.679
<v Speaker 2>opened the four o'clock hour.

743
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 3>Like, well, it's what we do, we dominate, And in

744
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>fact it was the opposite. They were getting dominated. I

745
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.760
<v Speaker 3>mean I looked at the score. I saw a huge deficit.

746
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:08.599
<v Speaker 2>I think it was like a twenty two point lead

747
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 2>for somebody, and I think, just my my eyes wouldn't

748
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 2>let me see that it was Serbia up twenty something

749
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>and not the United States because it just wouldn't like

750
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

751
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I can't process that.

752
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:23.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's got I mean I'm watching the the

753
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>postgame handshake line and whatnot and all. By by the way,

754
00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I did not realize Lebron James got like almost a

755
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.519
<v Speaker 2>full almost like a full gray Beard. I mean not

756
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:34.960
<v Speaker 2>full gray but like on the sides, it's it's mostly

757
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>great silver Fox. Yeah, exactly, he's he's he's got the

758
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:40.800
<v Speaker 2>silver Fox going on. But yeah, I mean, these these

759
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Serbian players are devastated understandably, so, I mean they're I

760
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 2>mean that was that was the game they were, you know,

761
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>they they had full control of, only to uh to

762
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 2>end up coming up short. I want to do it

763
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>quickly here before we wrap up the four o'clock hour,

764
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.480
<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about some of the some of

765
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:58.159
<v Speaker 2>the takeaways from Ken Spencer, which I thought is always

766
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 2>is a great conversation. But he's so right about these

767
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 2>coaches having to be involved. I mean, that was what

768
00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Mark Stoops really was complaining about in the comments about

769
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>him just basically doesn't know how much longer he can

770
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.840
<v Speaker 2>do it. It was just about him having to be

771
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 2>involved in fundraising, raising money so they can go buy players,

772
00:36:19.079 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 2>because that's what this is now, and I will I

773
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 2>can't appreciate a coach that will just come out and

774
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:28.960
<v Speaker 2>say that now. I don't think coaches need to like

775
00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.159
<v Speaker 2>lead their press conference with, hey, we got to go

776
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 2>buy players. That's what's most important now. But some still

777
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>tiptoe around it because I think it's just so unfamiliar,

778
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.679
<v Speaker 2>especially those that have been doing this their whole life.

779
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 2>You've gone from any any acknowledgment of anybody getting paid

780
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.360
<v Speaker 2>five years ago was you know your career would be

781
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:52.079
<v Speaker 2>over if you're involved in a cheating scandal where there's

782
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of players getting paid receiving impermissible benefits like

783
00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:58.320
<v Speaker 2>that could end it ends your career. You could get fired,

784
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, within violations, you could not even be entitled

785
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 2>to the rest of your contract. The instable a can

786
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:07.440
<v Speaker 2>get involved and potentially punish you with a show cause

787
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:11.679
<v Speaker 2>or suspend you. So it went from quite literally something

788
00:37:11.719 --> 00:37:15.400
<v Speaker 2>that would ruin a coach's career, a legacy, their lives

789
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:20.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe to where now you got to always be communicating

790
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>with boosters and people who do have deep pockets that

791
00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>can fund your program because you got to go buy players.

792
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Now it's just so different than what it used to be.

793
00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know much about Mark Stoops at all

794
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:37.159
<v Speaker 2>as far as like his personality, his ego, anything like that.

795
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:38.480
<v Speaker 3>But look, everybody's got an ego.

796
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I would say those that you know are high level

797
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.599
<v Speaker 2>college football coaches, college basketball coaches that make millions of dollars,

798
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I would say their egos are probably a little bit bigger.

799
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Than most understandably.

800
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:53.199
<v Speaker 2>So so for those guys to have to start basically

801
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>making sales calls, right, smoothing people to get money, like,

802
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:00.239
<v Speaker 2>that's just so outside of what they're used to and

803
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just not them. And I think some will probably

804
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 2>get out of I mean some probably already have gotten

805
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.440
<v Speaker 2>out of the business of coaching because of that. I mean,

806
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just so different. And I've always I've been pretty

807
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 2>consistent about this stuff. I don't have a whole lot

808
00:38:18.559 --> 00:38:22.840
<v Speaker 2>of sympathy for coaches when they complain about players now

809
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.519
<v Speaker 2>getting paid and having to coach differently, because guys can

810
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:29.920
<v Speaker 2>just leave in the portal, Like I do think that

811
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 2>they sound like crybabies, because again, asking them to make

812
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.320
<v Speaker 2>some adjustments within their job and their craft is not

813
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 2>that unusual for anybody, right, Like, how many times your

814
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 2>job have you had a big adjustment, a big change.

815
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.360
<v Speaker 2>It's pretty common well these guys for them to have

816
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>to make some adjustments and make a change. I don't

817
00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:49.239
<v Speaker 2>think it's asking too much, especially when you consider the

818
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>fact that some of these guys are the most are

819
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>the highest paid employees within their state, right public employee.

820
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you head coach in ukuve L, your

821
00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:00.039
<v Speaker 2>public employee, like your public record what you make. So

822
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's asking too much given how they're compensated. However,

823
00:39:03.760 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 2>I will acknowledge how vastly different it is. It's not

824
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 2>just a little minor change. It's a big change. It

825
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.440
<v Speaker 2>hasn't completely changed what the job is, but there's now

826
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a new component to the job that is a lot

827
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 2>of work, and it's just so foreign compared to what

828
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:23.679
<v Speaker 2>that job used to be. And you and I think

829
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:26.599
<v Speaker 2>you'll see coaches in the next five six years the

830
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:30.440
<v Speaker 2>ones that really have adapted and have you know, that

831
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:36.880
<v Speaker 2>are comfortable being the relatable, fundraising pep rally guy, a

832
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.599
<v Speaker 2>guy you know by all accounts, And I'm not saying

833
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelsey's going to be the star of college basketball,

834
00:39:41.800 --> 00:39:43.760
<v Speaker 2>because he you know, he gets it, and he's somebody

835
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.320
<v Speaker 2>that you know, is is is willing to be in

836
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:50.559
<v Speaker 2>front of businesses and boosters and sell himself and tell

837
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:53.119
<v Speaker 2>them why they should invest in all that. But like

838
00:39:53.159 --> 00:39:55.199
<v Speaker 2>that's what you need to do. But with Kelsey specifically,

839
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, of all the people I've talked to that

840
00:39:58.119 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>have gotten a chance to be around him a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>have met him, have heard him speak the most, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess there's a lot of people who have you know,

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned that they saw him somewhere or they talked to him,

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<v Speaker 2>or they were around him. But the majority of those

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<v Speaker 2>people are people who are, in fact, you know, either

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<v Speaker 2>influential business leaders or they work for companies that have

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<v Speaker 2>been corporate sponsors of u of L. And like I

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<v Speaker 2>think Pat Kelsey knew right away, there's there's some there's

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<v Speaker 2>some money that needs to be added for this thing to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be for it to work.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's made relationships with a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that have already been heavily involved in supporting U of

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<v Speaker 2>L athletics, whether it be from corporate sponsorships or through NIL,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's met a lot of other people that I

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<v Speaker 2>think are now willing to do it that probably never

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<v Speaker 2>would have had he not made such an impression on him. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't want to say coaches got to

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<v Speaker 2>put their ego to the side, but the game has changed,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can, like you can never just be comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>with the money thing, right, Like you can never just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, Okay, we got enough rich people throwing millions

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<v Speaker 2>at us. We don't need to be out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to bring in more money. I think it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be never ending. And that's again clearly something that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of coaches don't enjoy doing. All right, quick break,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll come back, finish strong. Here the five o'clock hour

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<v Speaker 2>is next. Right here, it's coffee and Company. Philbeth Thornton's

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety