Speaker 1: Growing up as kids, we always hear the story of
Speaker 1: the hairy Man. The story goes the family was traveling
Speaker 1: through and their youngest son fell off the back of
Speaker 1: the wagon. They didn't realize that they kept going and
Speaker 1: he pretty much grew up in that area with no
Speaker 1: family as a fair old person covered in hair, and
Speaker 1: people would encounter him traveling through the Chisholm Trail. He
Speaker 1: was said that he would be hanging in the trees
Speaker 1: and his toe nails would spread the tops of the
Speaker 1: canvases at the wagons. I actually found a book that
Speaker 1: was written by the local postmaster in the area and
Speaker 1: he goes on to tell the story of these high
Speaker 1: school kids that were hanging out in the area, and
Speaker 1: one of the kids he ends up getting stranded out
Speaker 1: there on Harryman Road around midnight and he's forced to
Speaker 1: walk back to town on Harryman Road. He claims that
Speaker 1: he was approached and encountered a large hairy man and
Speaker 1: he had to outrun this hairy man and get back
Speaker 1: to town.
Speaker 2: I'd like to welcome Eric to Bigfoot Crossroads. Eric caught
Speaker 2: my attention very recently this past week, and he has
Speaker 2: a YouTube channel called Media Palace, which I'm sure he'll
Speaker 2: tell you all about but he has some very interesting
Speaker 2: videos there that I've been checking out, and I encourage
Speaker 2: you to go check them out as well. Eric Man,
Speaker 2: thanks for joining me.
Speaker 1: Yang, Thanks for having me on Man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thanks for letting me be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're from the Austin, Texas area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Central Texas pretty much born and raised. My family's
Speaker 1: been here for a really long time. And yeah, been
Speaker 1: hanging around the Austin area.
Speaker 2: So how did you end up getting interested in the Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: Oh Man? Yeah, that's that's a great question. It kind
Speaker 1: of started with when I know, I started noticing some
Speaker 1: weird stuff taking place in my hometown of Williamson County here,
Speaker 1: which is just north of Austin. And we've always kind
Speaker 1: of had this myth or this mythos of the hairy Man,
Speaker 1: and I grew up hearing about the hairy Man Hairyman Road.
Speaker 1: There's actually a road called Harryman Road that comes right
Speaker 1: through town, and we grew up hearing that as kids.
Speaker 1: Never really thought much of it, just figured it was
Speaker 1: a story that they would tell kids to, you know,
Speaker 1: keep them entertained while driving on that road. But growing
Speaker 1: up and after you know, kind of hearing people's encounters
Speaker 1: and some other strange things going on, I started digging
Speaker 1: into it. And that was around twenty eighteen when I
Speaker 1: started researching the area and all that information that I
Speaker 1: gathered ended up becoming my first documentary, The Beast of
Speaker 1: Brushy Creek, And in that documentary I was able to
Speaker 1: actually find the true story of the hairy Man and
Speaker 1: how harry Man Road got its name. Growing up as kids,
Speaker 1: we always hear the story of the hairy Man, that
Speaker 1: it was a group of frontiers people traveling on the
Speaker 1: Chisen Trail. The famous Chisen Trail runs here where I'm at,
Speaker 1: where they used to run cattle up north, and the
Speaker 1: story goes the family was traveling through and their youngest
Speaker 1: son fell off the back of the wagon. They didn't
Speaker 1: realize it and they kept going, and he pretty much
Speaker 1: grew up in that area with no family as a
Speaker 1: fair old person covered in hair, and people would encounter
Speaker 1: him traveling through the Chisholm Trail. He was said that
Speaker 1: he would be hanging in the trees and his toenails
Speaker 1: would script the tops of the canvases at the wagon.
Speaker 1: And this is a story that we grew up hearing.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's you know, exaggerated, and who knows what all
Speaker 1: could have been true. But while researching for my documentary,
Speaker 1: I actually found a book that was written by the
Speaker 1: local postmaster in the area and he confirmed and it's
Speaker 1: written in the books saying, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of stories about harry Manroe got its name, and this
Speaker 1: is the real story. And he goes on to tell
Speaker 1: the story of these high school kids that were hanging
Speaker 1: out in the area. We have all their names, and
Speaker 1: one of the kids, his name was Shorty Caldwell. He
Speaker 1: was actually the star football quarterback of Round Rock High
Speaker 1: School at attack. He ends up getting stranded out there
Speaker 1: on harry Man Road around midnight and he's forced to
Speaker 1: walk back to town on harry Man Road. This is
Speaker 1: before it was named harry Man Roy and then he
Speaker 1: claims that he was approached and encountered a large harry
Speaker 1: Man and he had to outrun this harry Man and
Speaker 1: get back to town. The next day he got to school,
Speaker 1: he talked about it with the other kids there and
Speaker 1: it pretty much caught like wildfire. Everybody was to talking
Speaker 1: about it. And shortly after that, there was a man
Speaker 1: who was opening up a store off of Harryman Road,
Speaker 1: and he wanted to get some some postage and some
Speaker 1: paperwork that has his address and all that stuff on there.
Speaker 1: So he went to the post office and he said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to get some some you know, stationery.
Speaker 1: What's the name of this road here? It's just the
Speaker 1: country road and the postmatterss. So I don't know the
Speaker 1: real name, but everybody calls it harry Van Road, and
Speaker 1: so he thought that was hilarious, and he went down
Speaker 1: to the courthouse and trying to get the official name.
Speaker 1: And he comes back into the post office laughing, and
Speaker 1: he tells the post office the apostal worker there as well.
Speaker 1: It's officially called Harryman Road now, but it wasn't what
Speaker 1: it wasn't without some controversy there a lot of the
Speaker 1: old timers did not want that road to be called
Speaker 1: Harryman Road. And why that is we can only speculate.
Speaker 1: But in the book it explains that one of the
Speaker 1: one of the older residents of the area, his name
Speaker 1: was Folks. There's actually a school named CD Folks in
Speaker 1: the area that shows you how much of it of
Speaker 1: the person he was in the community. He thought tooth
Speaker 1: and nail to get a changed. You wanted to get
Speaker 1: a change to Fern Bluff Road because he told the
Speaker 1: people that are named it, be careful because you're stepping
Speaker 1: on hhllowed ground. But zas that was kind of weird
Speaker 1: when he kind of said it like that. You know,
Speaker 1: it's really weird. And harry Man Road is actually surrounded
Speaker 1: the majority of it, A good part of it is
Speaker 1: surrounded by a ranch that's been there for generations and generations.
Speaker 1: And I should probably explain where I am in the
Speaker 1: Central Texas area. We're part of the Balcone's Escarpment, and
Speaker 1: the Balcone's Escarpment is like a mini Grand Canyon that
Speaker 1: runs from San Antonio almost all the way up to Dallas.
Speaker 1: It's actually visible from space, full of full of creeks
Speaker 1: and crevices, caves, a lot of limestone caves everywhere, and
Speaker 1: there has been people living in this area for centuries.
Speaker 1: I believe it was in the nineteen seventies they found
Speaker 1: right off the Brushy Creek. At the time, it was
Speaker 1: the oldest complete skeleton. They dated it at thirteen thousand
Speaker 1: years old. There was just some woman and she was
Speaker 1: an ancient Native American. Shortly after that, while they were
Speaker 1: constructing the highway here I thirty five again off of
Speaker 1: the Brushy Creek, they had found some Indian burial mounds
Speaker 1: and at the bottom of one of these Indian burial
Speaker 1: mounds was an ancient Roman coin and everybody was kind
Speaker 1: of like, WHOA, how'd that get there? And so they
Speaker 1: took the coin to the University of Texas and Austin.
Speaker 1: There were two professors that looked at the coin and
Speaker 1: they came up with different different conclusions. One of the professors,
Speaker 1: who was from the East Coast, he had moved here
Speaker 1: to be a professor university. He had claimed that it
Speaker 1: was a World War two relic someone had brought back
Speaker 1: after the war and they were walking along with Brushy Creek.
Speaker 1: They dropped it when a road and grabbed it and
Speaker 1: burrowed underground, and that's how it got to the bottom
Speaker 1: of an Indian burial. Now, the other professor knew the
Speaker 1: person who found the coin, and once he realized that
Speaker 1: person had found the coin, he called him and they
Speaker 1: spoke and he believed the one hundred percent that it
Speaker 1: was it had to be an original deposit. For whatever reason,
Speaker 1: he knew the person. He said they grew up together
Speaker 1: relic hunting. They learned under the same relicuntry in Georgetown,
Speaker 1: which is not far from where I am. And so
Speaker 1: we without the Bigfoot or the Sasquatch topic. This is
Speaker 1: a really interesting and weird place. A lot of people
Speaker 1: have been living here for a long time. And I
Speaker 1: not to mention in twenty fourteen, about fifty yards from
Speaker 1: where I grew up my home as a child, the backyard,
Speaker 1: about fifty yards from where our backyard was, they found
Speaker 1: three ancient Native American burial mounts there, and unfortunately they
Speaker 1: In Texas, we have a really strange law where it
Speaker 1: allows the construction company to hire their own anthropologist. So
Speaker 1: a lot of times, yeah, a lot of times we'll
Speaker 1: get them hiring someone that's obviously in favor of the
Speaker 1: construction so they'll just be like, oh, yeah, nothing to
Speaker 1: see here, go ahead, and you know, build a road
Speaker 1: over and build a street over. So unfortunately, we had
Speaker 1: no idea how old these people were, where they came from.
Speaker 1: Were they part of the same tribe that was in
Speaker 1: the area. We really don't know. That's really unfortunately we
Speaker 1: could have had some you know, another Neanderthal woman the
Speaker 1: thirteen thousand year old woman. But again that just kind
Speaker 1: of explains the strangeness of the area. You take that
Speaker 1: you take the hairy Man Road. And again, like I said,
Speaker 1: I was just kind of researching all of this and
Speaker 1: it ended up becoming the Beast of Brushy Creek documentary.
Speaker 1: And what had really caught my eye was that in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, we had a mountain of bigfoot sightings. For
Speaker 1: whatever reason that was, we were getting bigfoot sightings and
Speaker 1: were encounters. We were hearing this, you know, on Facebook
Speaker 1: and other social media platforms. There was actually rumored I
Speaker 1: didn't see this, but I heard about it. While researching,
Speaker 1: I was in different Facebook groups, asking questions multiple people
Speaker 1: about five different people. I still have the messages. All
Speaker 1: of them told me that I needed to reach out
Speaker 1: to this one person. Apparently this guy had taken a
Speaker 1: video of something that was walking along the Brushy Creek.
Speaker 1: Everyone had seen the video. The people that had messaged
Speaker 1: me told me that it was a clear video of
Speaker 1: this black figure, very tall and lengthy, walking near the creek.
Speaker 1: It got taken down very shortly after that. The guy
Speaker 1: was removed, and really all we have left is the people,
Speaker 1: the original people that had seen this.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So multiple people had told me about this and they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: to reach out to that guy. So I did reach
Speaker 1: out to him, and he told me a really incredible story.
Speaker 1: He says, Yes, I did take footage of something there,
Speaker 1: but I can't talk about it. I signed an on
Speaker 1: disclosure agreement. I have all these messages, I had everything here,
Speaker 1: and that really got interested in like, what the heck's
Speaker 1: going on here? So shortly after that, this is all fact.
Speaker 1: You can go look at this. The FBI sent an
Speaker 1: email to the chief of police here in Round Rock saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we've heard about your you know, sasquatch sightings and all
Speaker 1: the dealings that's going on in the area. We're offering
Speaker 1: you any help you need, and we're giving you a
Speaker 1: bounty of five hundred thousand dollars for anyone that can
Speaker 1: provide information capture. This is the fact this happened. I
Speaker 1: have the email. And so a lot of people played
Speaker 1: it off as like, oh, this is a publicity snunt
Speaker 1: for the county and you know the city's doing this
Speaker 1: publicity stuff. But when you look at it, it's like,
Speaker 1: why would the FBI be involved? Yeah, and we know
Speaker 1: the FBI was involved because the person who sent that email,
Speaker 1: I know his name, I have all this information at
Speaker 1: the time, was the head of the FBI in Texas.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. And I went and looked at his
Speaker 1: resume online you can look at it on LinkedIn or whatever,
Speaker 1: and in there it says that he is, you know,
Speaker 1: in charge of two hundred and fifty feet of border,
Speaker 1: he was involved in the nine to eleven situation, and
Speaker 1: he is currently in charge of He's in charge of
Speaker 1: a covert information, secret information, and ten secret facilities inside
Speaker 1: of Texas. That's all there. It's on his LinkedIn profile.
Speaker 1: So you're wondering, like, why is this guy sending an
Speaker 1: email to the chief of police, and it kind of
Speaker 1: you know, it's if it was just one of these
Speaker 1: you know things like oh, sasquatch breeding taking place in
Speaker 1: Round rock Er, you know, these these ones that are
Speaker 1: obviously tourist based or you know, the bigfoot license stuff
Speaker 1: like that hunting license. Then yeah, that all sounds kind
Speaker 1: of gimmicky. But we can trace this back to the
Speaker 1: head of the FBI in Texas. That's a fact. That's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent fact.
Speaker 2: I don't think the FBI can be directly involved in
Speaker 2: marketing schemes exactly.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean exactly.
Speaker 2: I mean that's not for tourism.
Speaker 1: The fact that the guy who had taken the video
Speaker 1: said that he was approached and he can't talk and
Speaker 1: sign an NBA, that's really like, man, this is all
Speaker 1: happening at the same time so had mentioned the the
Speaker 1: the FBI sending that email. The same day that email
Speaker 1: was sent, I believe it was June seventeen, twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about that. I have to look back
Speaker 1: my notes, but the same I know, the same day
Speaker 1: the FBI put out the that email, there was an
Speaker 1: incredibly detailed encounter on the BFROL website in the same
Speaker 1: area the FBI had referenced. So it's like, well, what's
Speaker 1: going on here? Are they Are they monitoring the BFRO
Speaker 1: sites or are they putting information up there? It's really
Speaker 1: odd strange. The same day this happened. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: took me two years, but I was able to track
Speaker 1: down the person who made that report, incredibly professional person,
Speaker 1: master's degree he had. He definitely saw something. I believe
Speaker 1: him wholeheartedly one percent. I am trying to get him
Speaker 1: on camera at least maybe an audio recording of him
Speaker 1: jelling his experience, because very detailed. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's he definitely saw something. In my opinion, The next
Speaker 1: closest sighting we have to the one that happened that
Speaker 1: day was the next day we had two sidings taking place,
Speaker 1: the one you know, the FBI's or whatever the siding
Speaker 1: happens or vice versa, the siding could have happened the effect.
Speaker 1: The next day we have another siding. Someone sees something
Speaker 1: crossing the road, not far it's on the same county
Speaker 1: and everything like that, And I mean, it's just like,
Speaker 1: is this a coincidence? What's going on here? Like FBI
Speaker 1: is involved. We know that people are seeing stuff that
Speaker 1: you know, Facebook, social media is talking about it. So
Speaker 1: that really got my gears turning, like, hey, something is
Speaker 1: definitely going on here.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I mean, I'm just kind of
Speaker 2: sitting here in awe right now, to be honest, because
Speaker 2: I'm not just a podcast. I mean I am, but
Speaker 2: I've been a bigfooter for twenty five years now, and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking back, what the hell was I doing in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, because before I stumbled across you this past
Speaker 2: week and went and looked at your YouTube channel. The
Speaker 2: Austin area was nowhere on my radar for bigfoot. Ever,
Speaker 2: I had no idea this was even going on. And
Speaker 2: the events that you're talking about with like a video disappearing,
Speaker 2: I would have thought that I would have heard about that,
Speaker 2: But I've never heard about any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, And that's crazy because local people, you know,
Speaker 1: there are some people that I talked to, you know,
Speaker 1: I've done the media stuff here in town, and they're
Speaker 1: kind of unaware of it too. They're like, whoa, they
Speaker 1: put out a bigfoot thing? When did that happen? I
Speaker 1: have to show them to email to show that was true.
Speaker 1: It happened, you know. So what they did a really
Speaker 1: good job. I don't know. I didn't ask they covering
Speaker 1: up or you know whatever, but they did a good job.
Speaker 1: Whatever they did.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying without saying it. You know,
Speaker 2: like this right, this is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: No, Like I said, everything I'm going to talk about here,
Speaker 1: I have documentation for if you want to see it,
Speaker 1: I can provide it everything I have. And like I said,
Speaker 1: well we'll circle around to this one. We'll circle around
Speaker 1: to this one towards the end, because I'd like to
Speaker 1: tell you what happened when I did the four your request, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's that's really interesting too. But again that kind
Speaker 1: of got me wanting to know, like, hey, is there
Speaker 1: more of a paper trail with this whole Bigfoot subject?
Speaker 1: Is there other things going on here? And so I
Speaker 1: have a background in journalism, so I started doing I
Speaker 1: started hearing about certain events that were taking place, and
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let me let me fall your
Speaker 1: request and see if I can get some information on that.
Speaker 1: So there's a few cases that I've been lucky enough
Speaker 1: to do full your Requests and get information on, you know,
Speaker 1: various topics and incidents that have occurred in recent times
Speaker 1: and stuff that's even a little bit further back. But
Speaker 1: that's really kind of what I'm I'm focusing on now
Speaker 1: is finding the hard data. Because I know I found it.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's true, it's a fact. Uh, But I
Speaker 1: just want to keep digging the sea, like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find the paper trail, the breadcomb trail that leads
Speaker 1: to you know, maybe we can get you know, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe there's photos out there, maybe there's other you know,
Speaker 1: like my goal with putting out the documentary was maybe
Speaker 1: maybe somebody saved that that video from Facebook and we
Speaker 1: can get them to come forward or something like that.
Speaker 1: That was really my whole, my whole goal with that.
Speaker 1: But again, yeah, doing like these other four year requests,
Speaker 1: Like recently I had done one for this, uh this
Speaker 1: stuff going on in Louisiana. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: heard about that. There were some kids out there and
Speaker 1: uh Kasachi National Forest and they were they were too
Speaker 1: scared to leave. They could not. They were surrounded by something,
Speaker 1: something was stalking them and and they It made the
Speaker 1: New York Post and a couple of other news you know,
Speaker 1: news agent organizations and stuff like that, and so I
Speaker 1: was like, well, shoot, let me let me do the
Speaker 1: FOY request and see if we can get any any
Speaker 1: documentation on it. And I was able to get the
Speaker 1: nine to one one call. I just posted that I
Speaker 1: have the call sheets, the the radio reports from there,
Speaker 1: and I have the person's future.
Speaker 2: A few episodes ago, I had a couple guys on
Speaker 2: they're putting on a Bigfoot conference in that area. The
Speaker 2: episode titles Louisiana Bigfoot, where they talked about that incident specifically,
Speaker 2: and one of them had actually gone out with some
Speaker 2: others and investigated the area right after it happened and
Speaker 2: had some crazy stuff happen. So yeah, that's really interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the coordinates. I have the actual coordinance here,
Speaker 1: and so I'm really looking forward to possibly going out there.
Speaker 1: Hopefully one of the witnesses will be able to accompany
Speaker 1: me and we can kind of relive what took place
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, like you hear about this stuff
Speaker 1: all the time and at these cases and stuff, and
Speaker 1: really I'm honestly kind of passed the Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: my cousin's niece's brother saw this and you know he's
Speaker 1: got you know, that's not really I'm not really interested
Speaker 1: in that. I want the hard dat. I want the
Speaker 1: info that's out there, the documentation and anything like that. Uh.
Speaker 1: So No, I did that one. I did. I've done
Speaker 1: a few on the on the National Parks, which I've
Speaker 1: gotten some really interesting information on some of the National
Speaker 1: Parks stuff. Uh. There was one four year request that
Speaker 1: I have that at the top of it, I've never
Speaker 1: had one like this before. At the top of it,
Speaker 1: it says this was not approved by a supervisor. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: and I had heard about this. It was a group
Speaker 1: of people that were camping in Colorado and they had
Speaker 1: seen bone piles and there was an alleged big foot
Speaker 1: sighting in that area from these people. We had no
Speaker 1: idea to this day how the rangers had learned about this.
Speaker 1: There was there's no information if it was called, if
Speaker 1: they you know, heard it face to face. We don't
Speaker 1: know how they got to call it is reported in
Speaker 1: a in an incident summary report to say, hey, group
Speaker 1: of people witnessed, you know, skull or a bones and
Speaker 1: in sighting a bigfoot and they called the people bigfoot
Speaker 1: hunters or something like that. But when you read through
Speaker 1: the document, that's all it says. There's no information on there,
Speaker 1: and it says on there at the very bottom it
Speaker 1: says the ranger did not go out to investigate due
Speaker 1: to a medical issue. Okay, Now that was a smart
Speaker 1: way of hiding this. Okay. They had to say it
Speaker 1: was medical because when they say it's medical that falls
Speaker 1: under the HIPPA exemption, it's no longer it's no longer
Speaker 1: for you accessible.
Speaker 2: At that point, I mean, they're saying that a group
Speaker 2: of people reported on federal land finding human remains potentially
Speaker 2: at least, and that they didn't investigate or record any
Speaker 2: of the names or personal information of the reporting parties.
Speaker 1: We have no information whatsoever. And on all the other
Speaker 1: point requests I have, I have that information, some of the interdacted,
Speaker 1: but I mean even the ranger's name. You're able to
Speaker 1: see the ranger who conducted it. This one that's black out.
Speaker 1: We have no idea who the ranger was. All we
Speaker 1: know is that a parent, they had a medical issue
Speaker 1: and they that left them unable to go out.
Speaker 2: There at that moment, at that exact moment.
Speaker 1: Right, what's your job, dude? You're hired, you know, and
Speaker 1: you're not the only ranger on duty exactly. You would
Speaker 1: think they would hire able bodied, you know, people to
Speaker 1: go out there and back. But it's like, but where
Speaker 1: is And so all that to me is just saying, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, that's just like you know, rand flags left
Speaker 1: or right about how about that stuff? And you kind
Speaker 1: of start to see that when you do a little
Speaker 1: bit of the of the digging, it just kind of
Speaker 1: it leads you into a weird, weird direction. Man. To
Speaker 1: be honest with you, and that's really what I'm seeing.
Speaker 1: Following these paper trailers. It's like you'll get some stuf, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's just like a lot of the stuff's missing.
Speaker 1: And you can get exemptions on a four year request.
Speaker 1: They are rare, they're very rare. But a hippo would
Speaker 1: be one of those exemptions. So I did the four
Speaker 1: year quests on this one, and obviously they said they
Speaker 1: couldn't give me the information because it was hip or protected.
Speaker 1: But I have reached out to people in that area
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, was anybody anybody knows was anybody out
Speaker 1: there at this time, just trying to figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I get a name or some type of info,
Speaker 1: just to because we know it happened, we know the date,
Speaker 1: we have all that stuff. But I mean, just the
Speaker 1: report is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: and it's just so short, really no information, and at
Speaker 1: the topic says this was not approved by supervisor. How
Speaker 1: how does that work? I have no idea.
Speaker 2: So whenever you put in these requests, what do you
Speaker 2: ask for? Specifically?
Speaker 1: It really depends on what I'm what the what I'm
Speaker 1: looking for, How I got the information, Like if it's
Speaker 1: a bigfoot in like this, I'll have like I heard
Speaker 1: about this through a through an incident summary on the
Speaker 1: National Parks website. They have a huge database of just
Speaker 1: files and files, and I was lucky enough to be
Speaker 1: scamming through there and find just a little short two
Speaker 1: sentence thing saying, hey, incident number, you know whatever group
Speaker 1: reports bone piles and seeing bigfoot, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is out you know, let's take a
Speaker 1: look at this. So with that incidents summary number, I
Speaker 1: was able to do the four request saying, hey, give
Speaker 1: me all the information, any documentation, everything regarding you know,
Speaker 1: X report or whatever. And that's really what you want
Speaker 1: to do. You want to be as detailed as possible
Speaker 1: when you're doing the four year request because at that point,
Speaker 1: when you're so detailed and you know things happened, it
Speaker 1: makes it harder for them to deny it.
Speaker 2: Right, And we.
Speaker 1: Can kind of go into some of the more This
Speaker 1: is going to get kind of controversial here, but I've
Speaker 1: been working on, you know, like I said, trying to
Speaker 1: find hard data that shows, you know, some sort of
Speaker 1: government involvement. And I believe I one percent found that, uh,
Speaker 1: And I'm going to be working on a project to
Speaker 1: kind of compress that here and for people to see that.
Speaker 1: But if I could let me, can I read you
Speaker 1: this email here the kind of well, not excuse me,
Speaker 1: not email. This is a letter as all this was.
Speaker 1: So it's a fact the government has known they've been
Speaker 1: briefed on Bigfoot since nineteen sixty nine. This is Faction one.
Speaker 1: There's no denying, and I have the documentation here. This
Speaker 1: is a letter that was written December fifteenth, nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1: You're adapted. The President has asked me to thank you
Speaker 1: for your letter of December four and the brochure explaining
Speaker 1: plans for the American YETI expedition nineteen seventy referring your
Speaker 1: letter to the Secretary of Interior, sincerely redacted. So that's
Speaker 1: a letter that the President actually read.
Speaker 2: And was briefed on an expedition, and was.
Speaker 1: Briefed on an expedition one. There was an expedition that
Speaker 1: I have all the documentation. There was an expedition that
Speaker 1: took place in twenty nineteen sixty nine where they had
Speaker 1: some success. They had some success, and that's where the
Speaker 1: debrief came from. And this is pretty much saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we had some success. We want to go back out there.
Speaker 1: This is our plans for the next expedition. That's what
Speaker 1: That's what was said. Now I actually have the plans
Speaker 1: for the expedition, a couple of those sheets. I was
Speaker 1: able to get a couple of those.
Speaker 2: And it's a wild Is this Department of Interior or
Speaker 2: is it just a private party?
Speaker 1: So this is crazy. He sends this to the White House.
Speaker 1: The President sees this, and then he refers it to
Speaker 1: the Secretary of Interior. The Department of Interior is in
Speaker 1: charge of all the national parks in the nation, So
Speaker 1: that's kind of like WHOA. Not only that, but I
Speaker 1: have I have I have documentation from the same person saying, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we have all the cooperation of the National
Speaker 1: Parks Department. You know, we have we have all these
Speaker 1: people helping as they had Eddie Bauer, the Eddie Bauer
Speaker 1: company supplying them with gear. I mean, we have scientists
Speaker 1: that were out there, biologists that went out there. This happened, happened,
Speaker 1: It's factual. I have the documentation to prove that. Now,
Speaker 1: they were also looking for this is where it gets interesting.
Speaker 1: They were looking for well, I don't know if they
Speaker 1: were looking forward, but I think it was recommended to
Speaker 1: them about dealing with the Agricultural Department and possibly getting
Speaker 1: assistance from them. And I saw where they put in
Speaker 1: an application to get help with this yetty expedition from
Speaker 1: the Department of Agriculture that was denied. I have that
Speaker 1: saying that it was not saying hey, we're only allocated
Speaker 1: a certain amount of people in funds, we can't help
Speaker 1: you out. But they had another letter saying, hey, you
Speaker 1: need to send this to the National Science Foundation. Okay,
Speaker 1: so they sent it to the National Science Foundation. I
Speaker 1: have the receipt from the National Science Foundation. I have
Speaker 1: the receipt from I want to say, the White House
Speaker 1: saying give them whatever they need pretty much. I have
Speaker 1: this receipt, I have all that stuff. And that's where
Speaker 1: the trail goes cold. I would have figured in this
Speaker 1: in where I was able to find all the documents
Speaker 1: since I found the rejection letter from the Department of Agriculture. Oh,
Speaker 1: let me find the rejection letter for the National Science Foundation.
Speaker 1: I didn't find it, so I Follier requested it and
Speaker 1: the National Science Foundation. Before I mentioned anything, I just said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, looking for documentation on you know, YETI expedition
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty nine, seventy whatever, and they sent something
Speaker 1: back saying, oh, we've never heard of this, nothing, nothing.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh really, because here's your president,
Speaker 1: here's your president saying they were willing to assist. And
Speaker 1: I sent that back. I sent them the the letter
Speaker 1: that was there and everything, and then like a not
Speaker 1: even a like an hour later, they're like, Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: look into this. We'll get back to you. So I
Speaker 1: just got the The U took about two months their
Speaker 1: response and they're like, yeah, we can't find any denial
Speaker 1: letter or anything like that. I'm like, what did the
Speaker 1: National Science Foundation get involved? And they possibly fund this?
Speaker 1: It's wild, man, and it's crazy. But I mean, we
Speaker 1: have the stuff in there saying this is crazy too, man,
Speaker 1: this is really crazy that in the briefing, the brochure
Speaker 1: that they're talking about here, he says, the guy who's
Speaker 1: writing this says, we have someone at Hardwick College who's
Speaker 1: willing to go like pretty much off the record with
Speaker 1: whatever we find. And they wanted to it's written in there.
Speaker 1: Who knows what happened or not. They wanted to capture
Speaker 1: something that was their goal it says it all the brochure.
Speaker 1: It says that they were trying to capture or possibly
Speaker 1: kill something now in the Cascade Mountains, that's where it
Speaker 1: was taking place. So they said that they had someone
Speaker 1: to work at I believe it was Hardwick College. It
Speaker 1: was going to be working off the books for them
Speaker 1: once they retrieved the body or they had something. It's
Speaker 1: all really crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean, in that timeframe, there's only a handful of
Speaker 2: people that could have been involved in that. And exactly
Speaker 2: surely I know somebody that knows somebody. I mean already,
Speaker 2: like two large names are popping in my head about
Speaker 2: people that could have been involved.
Speaker 1: In this awesome No, so I know the person involved this.
Speaker 1: I have all the unredacted stuff. Uh. They are still alive,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. And I am trying my hardest
Speaker 1: to get in touch with this guy, like, hey, what
Speaker 1: do you know? Tell me I want to know what
Speaker 1: happened because there's a lot of questions. Unfortunately, I haven't
Speaker 1: been able to get a hold of that person, but
Speaker 1: I know who they are. But like I was telling
Speaker 1: you about the Hardwack College, they had someone off the
Speaker 1: books ready to assist with the you know, biology portion
Speaker 1: of this, and fast forward, fast forward a couple of years.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen Hardwick College has a
Speaker 1: gigantic statue of a gigantopithecus standing out there, uh, which
Speaker 1: you're like, what, what's going on? It's yeah, like what
Speaker 1: how at the same college where they could have taken
Speaker 1: a specimen or I don't know the right right And
Speaker 1: it's a big, old scary statue they have out there
Speaker 1: of what they're saying is a giganto pieces. It's all
Speaker 1: just really crazy and strange. And I mean we're even
Speaker 1: in the in the documentation they're talking about they're talking about, yeah,
Speaker 1: like doing stuff off of the books, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean it's just all really like I got to look,
Speaker 1: I gotta dig through some of the stuff. But it's
Speaker 1: just it's wild. I mean, it's a fact the government
Speaker 1: has known, has been debriefed on it since nineteen sixty nine.
Speaker 1: Are they still involved? You know? I really can't say,
Speaker 1: but from since it's other stuff, it's like, man that
Speaker 1: I don't can honestly, it's like, oh, it's going on here,
Speaker 1: but no, I mean they're talking about how much you know,
Speaker 1: like how much they're willing to invest in this, and
Speaker 1: again who's all involved. We've got biologists, we've got Eddy
Speaker 1: Power sponsoring some of this stuff. And really what I've
Speaker 1: seen is that what happened was they were kind of
Speaker 1: they had heard about this stuff taking place in Russia
Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty seven with a lot of the yetty expeditions,
Speaker 1: and they did not want to be left out in
Speaker 1: the cold. So I believe this was somewhat kind of
Speaker 1: like a response, almost with possibly more success.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm thinking about like the different situations where
Speaker 2: the government has gotten involved in investigating areas shall we say,
Speaker 2: supernatural paranorm whatever you want to call it. Remote viewing
Speaker 2: comes to mind. You know, we know that they were
Speaker 2: involved in researching that, but then at a certain point
Speaker 2: they turn it over to a private group. You know,
Speaker 2: that's not corrected to the government, so their hands aren't
Speaker 2: getting dirty, but they're still responsible and still funding it
Speaker 2: and completely involved hands on. And it sounds like that's
Speaker 2: what you're finding out now about this.
Speaker 1: I believe that's one hundred percent of what happened. These
Speaker 1: people were hired because you can only foll your request
Speaker 1: up to pretty much where I'm at right now. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're talking about their salaries in there. We know this.
Speaker 1: I know this person worked for the Central Intelligence Agency.
Speaker 1: That is a fact on the same person who sent
Speaker 1: this email worked for the Central Intelligence Agency. How do
Speaker 1: I know is because in this briefing he says, Oh,
Speaker 1: pay me what they were paying me at this at
Speaker 1: the Central Intelligence or like he's saying, our guys, all
Speaker 1: our central intelligence guys will work under a G nine, uh,
Speaker 1: a G nine payment or whatever, which a G nine,
Speaker 1: G eleven. Those are all military grade pay pay grades,
Speaker 1: I believe. So it's like, man, it's just like it's
Speaker 1: kind of all over here, but it's you know, you
Speaker 1: want to you can deny it as much as you want,
Speaker 1: but one hundred percent factual. And even in there, we
Speaker 1: have a letter from the d from I want to say,
Speaker 1: it's one of the President's advisors. I have a letter
Speaker 1: and it says that, hey, what do we do about
Speaker 1: the legislation about this pretty much or something like that
Speaker 1: legislation involving the American yety or some I have the
Speaker 1: AGM here to prove. But it's like, man, they were
Speaker 1: they actually trying to come up with some type of
Speaker 1: you know, laws and stuff.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they were. I mean, there was just you know,
Speaker 2: popping in my head. There was like a legislation besides
Speaker 2: you know the famous stuff in like Washington, out in
Speaker 2: Florida for sure. Out in Florida, I believe there was
Speaker 2: a senator or a congressman that was pushing legislation about
Speaker 2: the skunk Cape around that same timeframe. Uh so obviously
Speaker 2: those people would be in on the loop. I mean,
Speaker 2: those are the people that are leading the charge in
Speaker 2: UAP disclosure as we speak. So sure, I would assertained
Speaker 2: this would be a similar type situation back then.
Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about the skuncape. But real quick, I
Speaker 1: tried to foll your quest of information on that, like
Speaker 1: the famous Mayaka skuncake picture, right, And so when I did,
Speaker 1: they said they didn't have any information on that, but
Speaker 1: they had over five thousand emails regarding big Flips And
Speaker 1: I'm like, holy cract, that's a lot of emails. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: But they wanted like three grand for it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't pay you three grand for that, which you
Speaker 1: kind of start to see once you do some of
Speaker 1: the digging and stuff like like for the Louisiana instam
Speaker 1: I've been told there's body cam footage that, but they
Speaker 1: want X amount of dollars because they have to redact it.
Speaker 1: They've got to blurr people's faces and all this other stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it gets to you know, it should be free information.
Speaker 1: But it's really not like for the call that I had,
Speaker 1: I had to pay for that. You know, it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: But no, I mean, they they they've known. I can
Speaker 1: confidently say they've known since nineteen sixty nine. That's provable
Speaker 1: at this point. There's no going around that how far
Speaker 1: it got. That's really a mystery. That's really kind of
Speaker 1: like well, and they even they even reference in the
Speaker 1: brochure here they referenced Tom Slick, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 1: I've always been a really really interest in the whole
Speaker 1: Tom Slick saga. I've looked into it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've heard about these sightings that were taking place
Speaker 1: in San Antonio in the seventies. I don't if you've
Speaker 1: heard about that. There was a bunch of sightings taking
Speaker 1: place in the South San Antonio, Texas area, and he
Speaker 1: was like nineteen seventy six. A family had seen it
Speaker 1: multiple times. Neighbors in the area had seen a creature,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever, whatever, and I had done a livestream
Speaker 1: about it, just kind of talking about it, talking about
Speaker 1: my research into it. I was lucky enough to have
Speaker 1: the brother who was involved in the seventies reached out
Speaker 1: to me saying, hey, you know, I was there, my
Speaker 1: whole family saw it or whatever, and he was kind
Speaker 1: of explaining it to me, and he told me something
Speaker 1: that I had no idea. He said that when they
Speaker 1: were kids around the creek where people were seeing this thing,
Speaker 1: they would follow the creek and they would go up
Speaker 1: and there was a place that had gorillas and bad
Speaker 1: boons and closed in this area. And so that's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting. Maybe it was just like an escape baboon
Speaker 1: or you know, something like that gorilla. And then I
Speaker 1: started doing a little bit more digging, and for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: the park across the street was named Tom Slick Park,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's kind of interesting. And I
Speaker 1: come to find out that area that was housing the uh,
Speaker 1: the gorillas and you know, baboons was the facility that
Speaker 1: Tom Slick himself had created, had developed. It was the
Speaker 1: at the time it was like the National Biology. It
Speaker 1: was something National Biology of something he had created this,
Speaker 1: so it's like, Wow, you have less than five miles
Speaker 1: away people seeing some type of bigfoot creature on two feet,
Speaker 1: and then you have this it's a it's I believe
Speaker 1: it's a area where they now do ape what do
Speaker 1: they call it, like pheromones and stuff like that, leafs.
Speaker 2: That's why I knew that there was a big primate
Speaker 2: research facility down there.
Speaker 1: That was Tom Slick.
Speaker 2: I have no idea it was connected to Tom Slick in
Speaker 2: any way exactly.
Speaker 1: So that kind of leads you to think. That kind
Speaker 1: of leads you to think, like this guy, he had
Speaker 1: everything set up if he ever had a if he
Speaker 1: ever had a body, he knew where to take that
Speaker 1: to his own facility to where they could do all
Speaker 1: the research they wanted without the government's involvement. He could
Speaker 1: do pretty much, you know, and he had the money
Speaker 1: to do it. He absolutely had the money to do it,
Speaker 1: no questions about that. You know.
Speaker 2: Whenever bigfooters throw around, you know, the idea of well,
Speaker 2: you know what if we do get a body, then
Speaker 2: what he had the then right answered I.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I think I honestly believed that
Speaker 1: he had more than what people know. I do. I
Speaker 1: do believe that, and then you can even go back
Speaker 1: to the you know, the there's a lot of controversy
Speaker 1: about that, the Yetty hand the smuggled out of Nepaul
Speaker 1: or but that you know, that was Tom Slick. He
Speaker 1: was trying to get body parts. Where do you think
Speaker 1: they were going to test that at his facility? Where else?
Speaker 2: You know, let's come on, and that whole story is crazy.
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, no, it's a it's a wild story.
Speaker 1: But I mean he had been really researching and come
Speaker 1: to find out there's actually going to be a podcast
Speaker 1: released about I believe his granddaughters had found some new
Speaker 1: letters and some new documents from his adventures. So there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a new podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tomson, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's gonna be weird. I mean, who knows
Speaker 1: what they're gonna release, but I know, but YETI he's
Speaker 1: for the Bigfoot. He's going to be a part of that.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's just all like guys, when you
Speaker 1: do the digging and you start thinking logically, there's a
Speaker 1: paper trail for it, it's like that's time speculative what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. The Tom Slick stuff. But we know
Speaker 1: they've been interested since nineteen sixty nine. Tom Slick died
Speaker 1: I want to say in nineteen sixty two, and before
Speaker 1: that he was the guy they were going through him,
Speaker 1: and when he passed away, it's like, you know, all
Speaker 1: this stuff kind of gets taken over now that that
Speaker 1: agency is like a it's a private funded thing that
Speaker 1: he has. I don't think his family has any involvement
Speaker 1: in anymore. But I mean that was the perfect place
Speaker 1: to just, you know, kind of run his experience and
Speaker 1: try to find some answers. It was all he had
Speaker 1: the ability to do that. I really like to do
Speaker 1: some digging out. I might reach out to them literally
Speaker 1: in San Antonio, but I'd really like to take a
Speaker 1: look at some of those recently found letters and see,
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of like I said, like I'm
Speaker 1: doing just kind of digging through the archives seeing if
Speaker 1: there's anything that pops out like this nineteen sixty nine thing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy, but like I said, I've been
Speaker 1: doing this four year quest and kind of circling back
Speaker 1: to the to the what happened in my area with
Speaker 1: the FBI investigation. I had so much information to write
Speaker 1: a crafted, really detailed freedom of information at could quest
Speaker 1: because of all the stuff that was happening, all the
Speaker 1: publicity was happening, the FBI put this letter out. I
Speaker 1: have the dates, I had, name and everything I needed,
Speaker 1: so I do the for your request and I get
Speaker 1: back an exemption. I mean, why don't I get back
Speaker 1: an exemption if it's just a you know, publicity stunt
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, And on the exemption it says,
Speaker 1: you know, your year exempt for one of a couple
Speaker 1: of reasons, and it's like, you know, it's an ongoing investigation,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a national security matter, and
Speaker 1: some other really weird like the top names are involved
Speaker 1: with it, so it's on a need to know basis.
Speaker 1: Those are really the only times you would get a
Speaker 1: hippa hippa would be another thing you'd get an exemption.
Speaker 1: So why did I get an exemption for this when
Speaker 1: it's like so detailed and uh, you know, if it's
Speaker 1: just some type of publicity stunt, why wouldn't they just
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, not real or something like that.
Speaker 1: Now they're saying, we cannot give you that information because
Speaker 1: of one of the following things. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: a national security issue. It's people are the top echelon
Speaker 1: are involved. You really take your picket that at that point, right,
Speaker 1: So that's really kind of where that with that one.
Speaker 1: I you know, I really don't want to poke the
Speaker 1: bear because I live here. I mean, you know, people
Speaker 1: are still seeing stuff, still reporting stuff. I had gotten
Speaker 1: an email recently about it from who're not from, but
Speaker 1: it was about a bus driver and had been, you know,
Speaker 1: with kids. And I have the documentation for this one
Speaker 1: that these kids were on the bus and something came
Speaker 1: out and slapped the side of the bus and apparently
Speaker 1: these kids saw it and the bus driver seen it
Speaker 1: and all that. And I just tried to do the
Speaker 1: digging for this one and it just kind of kind
Speaker 1: of just dead ended. But people are still seeing things
Speaker 1: in the area. For the Harryman Road, it was I
Speaker 1: got a message from someone saying that they were on
Speaker 1: the Harryman Road. They're riding their bike and the rocks
Speaker 1: were getting thrown at. Think less than a week later,
Speaker 1: the Harryman Road was closed and they were saying they
Speaker 1: were doing renovations and I went out there took video.
Speaker 1: There was nothing going on, nothing going on out there,
Speaker 1: but we went out there at night. We have on
Speaker 1: video pebbles being thrown. We have this on video from
Speaker 1: out of the darkness. These pebbles are just being tossed
Speaker 1: at us, Like, what the heck is going on? It's
Speaker 1: just wild Man.
Speaker 2: Now again, this area that you're talking about, it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like it's out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that. It's not in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere. But the thing is all throughout Harryman Road.
Speaker 1: There's caves and caverns that are miles long. Actually, in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, right after the fba I put out that thing,
Speaker 1: there was a large cave in a neighborhood that off
Speaker 1: of the Brushy Creek, and I believe they said that
Speaker 1: that cavern went over twenty chambers deep to the ground.
Speaker 1: They never found the end of it. They just sealed
Speaker 1: it up and covered up, and hey, they moved on
Speaker 1: after that. But almost every year you hear about sinkholes,
Speaker 1: you hear about caverns being discovered. And we're actually not
Speaker 1: far from the interspace caverns, which is a cavern. It's
Speaker 1: like a little park or whatever. You can go and
Speaker 1: check out these caverns in the area. But now I
Speaker 1: believe that we are well. The other thing is that
Speaker 1: I bring my research. I found a document from the
Speaker 1: seventies from the Texas Plunkers Group from the University of Texas,
Speaker 1: and in there they said that there is possibly up
Speaker 1: to three thousand undiscovered caves in Winston County. You're like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's insane. Three thousand caves. But not only that,
Speaker 1: but if you follow the green else and we have
Speaker 1: some national preserves. The house that I was telling you,
Speaker 1: I grew up as a kid where they found the
Speaker 1: Native American burial mounts. That area is a walking trail
Speaker 1: and a it's a bike path, it's like eight miles.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, and a National bird preserve. So there's no
Speaker 1: building or anything involved there. But all that stuff leads
Speaker 1: back to the Balcony's Canyon Lands. Now, the Balconi's Canyon
Speaker 1: Lands is a federal preserve. They close at five point thirty.
Speaker 1: I want to say, they're not open on the weekends.
Speaker 1: I think on Saturday they're not open and there's no drones.
Speaker 1: You have to stay on the trail. It's a really
Speaker 1: weird area. The Balconi's Canyon LANs beautiful area, really untouched.
Speaker 1: No one has been able to camp out there at night,
Speaker 1: like it's crazy. So all the creeks off of the
Speaker 1: Balconi's Escarpment lead back to the Balconi's canyon Lands. One
Speaker 1: of the weirdest things I ever got researching, and I'm looking,
Speaker 1: I've been looking forever for this picture. It was a
Speaker 1: guy who had sent me this picture from a I
Speaker 1: believe it was a drone, even though they could have
Speaker 1: been a helicopter. It might have been a helicopter actually
Speaker 1: because it was a couple years back. But in there
Speaker 1: they look like there is three cows. You think they're
Speaker 1: cows on this trail and even points it out and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, cows. There's no cattle in the Balcone's
Speaker 1: canyon Lands, Like what is there? They just look like
Speaker 1: black blobs that are kind of you see, like you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a leg instead of like, what
Speaker 1: the heck is that. It's really weird, But you know,
Speaker 1: we're speculating at that point, but you're right, it's not
Speaker 1: a in the middle of nowhere, but all roads lead
Speaker 1: back to the Balcones Canyonlands. Now, I had mentioned that
Speaker 1: sighting that took place. You know, we had the sighting
Speaker 1: the FBI released that thing, and then the next day
Speaker 1: we had that sighting. Right that sighting was a road
Speaker 1: right off of the Balconi's Canyon LANs. They had seen
Speaker 1: this thing, So, I mean, was it making its way
Speaker 1: back to where it originally came from? We can only speculate,
Speaker 1: But it's just that the Baconies is, you know, miles
Speaker 1: and miles of just again caverns, dense forest, and you know,
Speaker 1: you're you're not allowed to camp there after a certain time.
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to camp through period, You're not allowed
Speaker 1: to be there after six o'clock. So it's all really
Speaker 1: strange and weird. Yeah, like what what's kind of you?
Speaker 1: You don't want to say they're hiding something, but it's like, man,
Speaker 1: what's going on here? Why can't we I'm really interested
Speaker 1: in getting a permit to possibly be out there and
Speaker 1: extend the amount of time overnight, just to catch some
Speaker 1: of the more interesting wildlife out there. No one's ever
Speaker 1: captured anything out there at night, so it it'd be interesting.
Speaker 1: Maybe we get some cougars or even a black girl.
Speaker 1: We don't have bears in the area, but who knows,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: So I watched the Brushy Creek the Beast of Brushy
Speaker 2: Creek documentary that you did. Yeah, I enjoyed it tremendously.
Speaker 2: It was very eye opening for me. Information like I
Speaker 2: said that I was completely unaware of I had known
Speaker 2: about the sinkhole incident, Okay, yeah, but whenever I heard
Speaker 2: about it, it was just that there was a sinkhole
Speaker 2: in the area. I didn't know that it led to
Speaker 2: this huge cave system underground. I had no idea about
Speaker 2: all the caves and stuff. But one of the things
Speaker 2: that I kind of picked up from your documentary was
Speaker 2: that this area, this Brushy Creek area, is another one
Speaker 2: of those places that you constantly run across if you
Speaker 2: get involved in anything unexplained, where it's not just one
Speaker 2: thing happening, it's a location where there's just weird stuff
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like I can go into detail
Speaker 1: about some of the stuff in my documentary, Like we
Speaker 1: had a guy that I interviewed and he talked about
Speaker 1: seeing this green light that followed his car. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: then shortly after that, actually I think it was in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, there was a we had
Speaker 1: a green streak of light pass through and jo on
Speaker 1: the news I remember this. I have the clip somewhere
Speaker 1: the the whoever it was, they brought someone, uh astronomer
Speaker 1: I believe, to kind of explain what was going on,
Speaker 1: and she explained it as a once in a lifetime
Speaker 1: like one in five million, you know, occurrence you'd be
Speaker 1: able to see. And I was like, really, because I
Speaker 1: had a guy who saw the same thing like several
Speaker 1: years back, Like it's a once in a lifetime thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a million people around here then.
Speaker 1: Because yeah, yeah, so that was kind of weird. And
Speaker 1: then you can kind of into you can kind of
Speaker 1: go into the the human element of some of the
Speaker 1: weird stuff going on here too, Like there has always
Speaker 1: been a you know, on occult presence here that's factual,
Speaker 1: and growing up you'd hear about that, and in the
Speaker 1: documentary I kind of touch base on that. Growing up,
Speaker 1: I had heard about this spot where my friends had
Speaker 1: discovered a he decapitated deer in like some you know,
Speaker 1: strange other surroundings in that area. So we had gone
Speaker 1: back out there because you know, they wanted to show
Speaker 1: me and stuff. And we go back out there and
Speaker 1: there was there was no deer, but there was actually
Speaker 1: a decapitated dog out there, which you're like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: that's really scary and a bunch of really crazy writings
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So, like I said, I had
Speaker 1: been researching and reaching out to people in different groups
Speaker 1: and stuff, and this one person had reached out to me. Now,
Speaker 1: I had an encounter in twenty eleven right off of
Speaker 1: the Brushy Creek. It wasn't visual, it was just I'd
Speaker 1: like to say it was like a bluff charge. I
Speaker 1: go into detail about that in some other videos I've done.
Speaker 1: But that same year, twenty eleven was the worst drought
Speaker 1: we've ever had in Texas. So the brushy areas of
Speaker 1: the Brushy Creek were accessible where they hadn't been before.
Speaker 1: Caves were accessible where they hadn't been before. Walking along
Speaker 1: the brush of creek, we were saying all these new
Speaker 1: like oh, look at that, like caves all over the place.
Speaker 1: And so that's when I had an encounter in there,
Speaker 1: and someone had reached out to me saying, hey, I
Speaker 1: have the emails and stuff. I had to kind of
Speaker 1: get it out of them because he was saying that
Speaker 1: his wife had seen some strange happenings and stuff, and
Speaker 1: I get it out of him saying his wife was
Speaker 1: walking their kids along this trail that I've mentioned where
Speaker 1: they find the human burial grounds. There's been bigfoot sightings.
Speaker 1: That's where the FBI had listed that, you know, the
Speaker 1: wanted poster or whatever. And he says that his wife
Speaker 1: had seen five clunk figures in a very dry area
Speaker 1: of the creek, burning a candle and doing some type
Speaker 1: of ritual out there. This is you know, this is
Speaker 1: what he says. I haven't written down, and they're like,
Speaker 1: what the heck? And so he said, his wife seen that,
Speaker 1: turned around and like they just left. That's crazy. So
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to get her to interview, but he's terrified.
Speaker 1: She's you know, she would have to do obviously with
Speaker 1: some type of you know, covering her identity or something
Speaker 1: like that. But you're kind of wondering, like does that
Speaker 1: have anything to do with the big foot sightings in
Speaker 1: the area. You know, you you and the Rushy Creek documentary,
Speaker 1: I got a little bit of heat because people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, this is not one big foot based and
Speaker 1: I really wasn't going for a big foot based documentary.
Speaker 1: I was going for an area documentary, like you look
Speaker 1: at all this crazy stuff happening in the area. And yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's just like again, like I said, you take the
Speaker 1: ancient stuff that was taking place kind of weird, you
Speaker 1: take the bigfoot scenario, the hairy man road stuff that's
Speaker 1: been here since, you know, the rumor since the eighteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: and then you take the modern stuff with the FBI
Speaker 1: surgeon out here, you really kind of wondering, like, what
Speaker 1: the heck is going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why would they be interested in something.
Speaker 1: Like that exactly? Just really leads to more more questions.
Speaker 2: And then you had an interview with that guy who
Speaker 2: was former military and former police officer who had the photos.
Speaker 2: Yes figure, now you know, I'm just gonna say it
Speaker 2: couldn't see much in the photo. Yeah, yeah, but the
Speaker 2: fact that he took the photo supports his story of
Speaker 2: what he witnessed with another guy that he was with,
Speaker 2: I guess, and they had ran across that woman and
Speaker 2: that I mean, maybe that could have possibly been a
Speaker 2: juvenile bigfoot, but it could have been something else. It's
Speaker 2: just a really weird figure on two legs, a weird
Speaker 2: incident and during broad daylight. So that's another thing in
Speaker 2: the notch of the belt of wodeness for that area.
Speaker 1: No, and I had to coax it o of him.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't want to go on film or anything.
Speaker 1: He was like, Oh, let me just call you and
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. You know. I'd I could go
Speaker 1: back to the location you showed me and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and so luckily enough we did, and he went into
Speaker 1: a kind of greater detail and yeah, like you said,
Speaker 1: military guy, very highly educated, and he was very sincere.
Speaker 1: And the story is of like you hear about that,
Speaker 1: you hear about that stuff on the Brushy Creek people
Speaker 1: kind of. There was an incident where I started doing
Speaker 1: the research where one woman had reached out to me
Speaker 1: saying she had seen a giant lemur in a tree.
Speaker 1: I was like, what the heck off of the brush
Speaker 1: off of the Brushy Creek trail. And I had reached
Speaker 1: out to a woman who was kind of the holder
Speaker 1: of the Hairyman Road story, like she would be at
Speaker 1: library stop telling the story and stuff, and I had
Speaker 1: been talking with her and I mentioned the levering thing
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh my god, I saw I saw
Speaker 1: a lever myself in that same area. I was like,
Speaker 1: what where was saying they're seeing like a giant lever.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of just crazy. But again it's just
Speaker 1: kind of the weirdness of the area. It's you know,
Speaker 1: h even you go back to the to like the
Speaker 1: earlier settlers that were here, the Tonka would tribe, which
Speaker 1: was a really weird tribe in themselves. They did not
Speaker 1: you know, a commiserator, befriend a lot of the tribes
Speaker 1: in the area. They would kind of stand office off
Speaker 1: to themselves. Not only that, but they had a lot
Speaker 1: of strange practices. They were covering full body tattoos, which
Speaker 1: to me that sounds more of a like an islander
Speaker 1: type thing, you know, Pacific islander thing, covered in full tattoos.
Speaker 1: They would bury their dead standing up, which is kind
Speaker 1: of interesting, I thought. And they worship a giant wolf.
Speaker 1: Every year, they had a celebration for a giant wolf
Speaker 1: that they would dance for. They would put on wolf
Speaker 1: pelts and they would dance around for like three or
Speaker 1: four days celebrating this wolf deity. And they celebrated him
Speaker 1: because the wolf pretty much symbolized their way of life.
Speaker 1: They were hunters. They were not farmers, and they never
Speaker 1: wanted to be farmers. They were hunters and they you know,
Speaker 1: they would kill for their food, but unfortunately, with the
Speaker 1: settlers coming in the area, they were forced out. And
Speaker 1: I believe up to your neck of the woods there
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma it's where they resigned now unfortunately. But and
Speaker 1: I'm always wondered with the tribe they or the people
Speaker 1: they found in twenty fourteen behind my house where those
Speaker 1: people talk a wort. Were they older? You know, I
Speaker 1: would have loved to just get some more information on
Speaker 1: who those people were for three people they felt there.
Speaker 2: Did you hear any stories out of the construction worker
Speaker 2: guys that you videoed?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no. So I went out there kind
Speaker 1: of with a hidden camera, I should say, and here
Speaker 1: you go, distreet camera, here you go. And so I'm
Speaker 1: out there talking to some of the construction workers and
Speaker 1: one guy I'm like, hey, you know, Harry matt Road,
Speaker 1: have you seen anything or heard anything crazy? And he's
Speaker 1: like no, He's like, well, actually you see that guy
Speaker 1: over there. And I was like yeah, and he'said, well,
Speaker 1: he just said he saw a giant shadow peaking out
Speaker 1: from the trees. And I was like, oh, that's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting. Let me go talk to that guy. And
Speaker 1: so I went and talked to that guy and he
Speaker 1: actually pointed me in the direction of two caves. There
Speaker 1: were three caves. He was able to show me where
Speaker 1: two of them were, and he said there was another
Speaker 1: cave that he had seen deer coming out of. And
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's gotta be a huge that's
Speaker 1: gotta be a huge cave of deer coming out of here.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's that's insane. But when you're
Speaker 1: in the Brushy Creek area, especially the Harryman Road area,
Speaker 1: and you're not on a trail or the road, it's
Speaker 1: a very dangerous area. Like we talked about the sinkholes.
Speaker 1: That's that's a real thing. Man. You have to watch
Speaker 1: where you're stepping sinkholes. Not to mention, you know, all
Speaker 1: the other critters. We have your rattlesnakes and all that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. So I was able to find two
Speaker 1: of the caves, and one of them is just gigantic,
Speaker 1: and I believe some of that's in the Brushy Creek documentary. Uh,
Speaker 1: but they they look like tunnels. It's just like, really weird.
Speaker 1: They almost like tunnels. Who knows how deep they go.
Speaker 1: But now those are all grated up, they're caged up.
Speaker 1: You can't even don't really go there anymore, which I
Speaker 1: thought was kind of and then after the documentary came out,
Speaker 1: they started doing that. So I'm like, man, okay.
Speaker 2: It's just bugging me. I have to ask you about it,
Speaker 2: and I hate to do. I know you want people
Speaker 2: to watch the documentary, and I I again encourage them
Speaker 2: to watch the documentary, and I'm not trying to give
Speaker 2: anything away, but that one cave with the metal door, man, Yes,
Speaker 2: what is the freaking deal?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I can't explain that. I have I've talked
Speaker 1: to different people about that. I really I have no
Speaker 1: idea what that was for. You're talking about the giant
Speaker 1: team that had like a four foot face carved into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, clearly structure that somebody made
Speaker 2: out of a cave with a giant armored door that
Speaker 2: only locks from the outside, which makes zero sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean no, it's a giant Yeah. No, that
Speaker 1: door is rated to withstand a nuclear blast. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: How that got down there, how everything got constructed, I
Speaker 1: have no idea. And then it was buried up. They
Speaker 1: tried to cover it up, and the only way was
Speaker 1: discovered was these construction workers were building a road nearby,
Speaker 1: and it's in the documentary they find this cave and
Speaker 1: they are scared to death. They are not they're not
Speaker 1: going in there, and they're like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. And that actually took me about two
Speaker 1: weeks to find. I did not have the actual location
Speaker 1: for it. I just knew the construction workers did not
Speaker 1: want to go back there, and I was they you know,
Speaker 1: taking back the orders. They were like, no, I'm no,
Speaker 1: nowhere were So they just told me about the general
Speaker 1: area and so I went and with some GPS imaging,
Speaker 1: I was able to find it and took about two
Speaker 1: weeks to actually, you know, oh, here it is, because
Speaker 1: the brush was just insanely dense in that spot. So
Speaker 1: we find it and there's like, you know, stairs carved
Speaker 1: into it. There's obviously a gigantic face that is not
Speaker 1: a human face in my opinion.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know if it's a troll or what
Speaker 2: it is, but.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, just really strange features on it itself. Looks
Speaker 1: like it has possibly tattoo markings or maybe even hair
Speaker 1: that could be what they're trying to similize in hair, honestly,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, it's a gigantic steel door that
Speaker 1: only locks from the outside, and going in there into
Speaker 1: this cavern was probably the dumbest thing I've ever done
Speaker 1: because it was me and my friend David. We didn't
Speaker 1: expect to find it. We thought it was another weekend
Speaker 1: where we weren't going to find it. So we're out
Speaker 1: there and we find it. We are very ill prepared.
Speaker 1: We only have like one flashlight that sucked. Our phones
Speaker 1: were actually broughten in the flashlight. So we're we go
Speaker 1: in there and we walk and we never found the
Speaker 1: end of it. It was just a maze of you know,
Speaker 1: you can go this way, you can go that way,
Speaker 1: and it was it was again the only way in
Speaker 1: and out would be through this steel door that only
Speaker 1: locks from the outside, and it had that, and it
Speaker 1: had breathing holes in it. So a lot of people
Speaker 1: were like, oh, that's just a bunker or that's where
Speaker 1: people were stashing their moonshine and stuff. Well, why does
Speaker 1: it have breathing holes? You know that doesn't why does
Speaker 1: it have a gigantic stone face If it's just you know,
Speaker 1: hiding booze.
Speaker 2: Or whatever, it doesn't matter what it was. I mean,
Speaker 2: it does but it was used for nefarious reasons no
Speaker 2: matter how you look.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, absolutely it was used.
Speaker 2: Nothing good happening, no, nothing at all.
Speaker 1: No. Yeah, and no, people have speculated about different stuff.
Speaker 1: I know, like Doug Hidcheck from Monster Quest. He was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's where they kept a big foot and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it. You could argue that, but yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's just you think about that and then you think
Speaker 1: about who put it in there. Yeah, exactly. And then
Speaker 1: in that Sperlunking document that I had mentioned where they
Speaker 1: said there's over three thousand uniscovered caves, they mentioned caves
Speaker 1: that were discovered and this cave is not on there.
Speaker 1: It is not on there. And they go in to
Speaker 1: detail about some other caves. They oh, you know, like
Speaker 1: the breathing cap instance. I haven't talked about the breathing cave.
Speaker 1: There's a cave that was called breathing Cave, and they
Speaker 1: called it breathing cave because you'd be able to put
Speaker 1: a two by four in there and a gust of
Speaker 1: wind would shoot it out outside of the entrance of
Speaker 1: this cave. And the university, Yeah, the university went out
Speaker 1: there to calculate, do all the calculations and stuff, and
Speaker 1: they surmised that what was happening was almost like a
Speaker 1: gun scenario. You have a very large chamber at the
Speaker 1: bottom that had airflow, forcing air into this smaller chamber
Speaker 1: that created this effect. And they were kind of puzzled
Speaker 1: because their calculations the gigantic chamber underneath the smaller chamber
Speaker 1: would have had to be in the size of like
Speaker 1: a stadium. So they're like, no, no, They're like, this
Speaker 1: can't be right our numbers. We got to come back
Speaker 1: and test us again. They never did. They never did. So,
Speaker 1: I mean you kind of think about, like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: a stadium sized underneath you know, the Brushy Creek area.
Speaker 1: That's just that's wild to think about it. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not, you know, unfeasible when you think about all
Speaker 1: the caverns and caves, but could they connect somewhere underground?
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's an interesting theory.
Speaker 2: Again, Texas is not the place you think of for
Speaker 2: caves exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you don't think about that. You think of,
Speaker 1: you know, just deserts or I don't know what people
Speaker 1: think about Texas, but yeah, you don't think about caves
Speaker 1: and cavern systems, but I honestly think we have a
Speaker 1: cavern system here and I discovered cabinet system here. It
Speaker 1: would rival the Mammoth cave system in Kentucky. And I
Speaker 1: would really love for you know, some group or something. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you another example. I just thinking about this now.
Speaker 1: They have a Longhorn cave which is just south of us.
Speaker 1: They recently found the giant cats sabretoothed cat remains like
Speaker 1: four miles in this cave. Wow, in complete incomplete darkness.
Speaker 1: They're like, how did the the cats get all the
Speaker 1: way back here? It's it's pitch black, but they are
Speaker 1: going about four miles into the ground, which is insane.
Speaker 1: Another incident is that we have we had a cave.
Speaker 1: I believe it's chambered off now, but it was called
Speaker 1: Airman's Cave here in Austin. And uh, there's a really
Speaker 1: interesting article. I think only like a handful of people
Speaker 1: have ever been to the end of this cave. And
Speaker 1: there's a really cool article article about these kids that
Speaker 1: went in there and it said they took it took
Speaker 1: him about twelve hours to get to the end of
Speaker 1: the cave from when they started what and this involved
Speaker 1: crawling on their hands and knees that in some points
Speaker 1: it was very large were they able to walk. And
Speaker 1: by the time they got to the end of this cave,
Speaker 1: they said that they were exhausted. It was already nine
Speaker 1: outside and they were just super exhausted. But other people
Speaker 1: have I think there's a couple of people who have
Speaker 1: gone to the end of this cave and described the
Speaker 1: same thing. This guy describes two large crystals popping out
Speaker 1: of the sides of these caves, giant crystals like the
Speaker 1: ones you've seen on like the Superman movies, popping out
Speaker 1: of this cave. And we were was kind of like,
Speaker 1: what the hell is that doing there? There's no sense,
Speaker 1: But again, this is just another weird instance of a
Speaker 1: Central Texas man.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one more weird thing that happened last
Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty three, there was an unidentified flying
Speaker 1: object flying over the Central Texas area. I have the
Speaker 1: document from NORAD saying they scrambled to jets from Colorado
Speaker 1: to investigate what this thing was. And I believe this
Speaker 1: said it was like, you know, the typical weather balloon
Speaker 1: thing or whatever. It's like, oh, you're strambling jets from
Speaker 1: Colorado from weather balloons. Yeah yeah, but over the Brushing
Speaker 1: Creek again. So it's just, you know, I honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't know what's to think at this point. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to gather everything and say, hey, look at this,
Speaker 1: Look at all this weird stuff. You know, does it connect?
Speaker 1: I have no idea, honestly, but it's just you can't
Speaker 1: avoid you can't avoid the weird. You can almost talk
Speaker 1: to anybody that's been here for over, you know, ten
Speaker 1: years and something, and they'll they'll tell you something strange
Speaker 1: that's happened to them on one of the trails, or
Speaker 1: you know, they're out lake fishing or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: You'll hear about these things when you talked to the community.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize how vivid it was until I
Speaker 1: started talking to people. It's like my best friend growing up,
Speaker 1: I had not told him about what had happened to me,
Speaker 1: but he described his encounter and my Airyman Road documentary,
Speaker 1: and it's exactly what happened to me. He was rushed
Speaker 1: by something aggressive that chased off of the creek. And
Speaker 1: then again people were just reaching out to me saying, Hey,
Speaker 1: I experienced the exact same thing. We were fishing up
Speaker 1: the creek. Something came splashing towards us. We were scared.
Speaker 1: We left. The woman I told you about, who was
Speaker 1: kind of like the holder of a harry Man Road story,
Speaker 1: she told me about her son was in a boy
Speaker 1: Scotch troop that was camping along there along the Brushy Creek.
Speaker 1: These kids are like fifteen sixteen year old. There's like
Speaker 1: twenty of them, maybe not twenty ten or fifteen, and
Speaker 1: they were so scared they left the Brushy Creek because
Speaker 1: something was doing this mock you know, rush rushing them
Speaker 1: or you know, bluff charge I guess. So it's so
Speaker 1: weird that so many people that have never met are
Speaker 1: talking about the same exact thing. Not only that, but
Speaker 1: I had mentioned the construction worker who said he had
Speaker 1: seen something a shadow peak up behind the tree. Yea,
Speaker 1: So my friend that I'm telling you about his girlfriend
Speaker 1: said the exact same thing in the same area off
Speaker 1: of harry Man Road. She said that she had seen
Speaker 1: these little, these shadow people poking their heads out from
Speaker 1: these trees. Wow, it's like what they've never met. This
Speaker 1: is like twenty years apart. What the hell's going on here?
Speaker 1: You know, they're telling the same story. And again, talking
Speaker 1: with those construction workers, I asked, mos Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of you know, harry Man Road
Speaker 1: or you know how the story got here? And he said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, someone saw a big put out of here
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then he pursueds to tell me that
Speaker 1: multiple people have been killed by trees out there. Hit
Speaker 1: by trees. I'm like, hit by trees? What? It makes
Speaker 1: no sense.
Speaker 2: Do you think there might be like some sort of
Speaker 2: curse on the area.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Honestly, I've heard a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was that one older Native lady that
Speaker 2: you interviewed about her. Oh yeah, and it went into
Speaker 2: the paranormal. It was definitely different. And uh, I don't know,
Speaker 2: just so many similarities between the stuff you've uncovered and
Speaker 2: talked about and the stories you're relaying to like some
Speaker 2: places here in Oklahoma, especially some of the native communities.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we kind of shared the same native communities. Honestly,
Speaker 1: they were here and they went up there, and you
Speaker 1: know that's that's a real thing. It happened. But no,
Speaker 1: I've heard the curse theory before. I've heard people say like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's cursed because of this and that, and you know
Speaker 1: there was a if someone killed something they shouldn't have
Speaker 1: and all this other stuff, and it's like, man, what
Speaker 1: there's really again we're speculating, but it's just kind of
Speaker 1: it's just all really weird that it's happening here in
Speaker 1: this area that again, you really don't hear anything about.
Speaker 1: Don't hear about this stuff you hear about, you know,
Speaker 1: like you said, some place in Oklahoma you hear about
Speaker 1: some Skinwalker ranch stuff you hear about, like the the
Speaker 1: Hani Valley in Canada. But this area, the Brushing Creek,
Speaker 1: I think it it can rival or it's it's as
Speaker 1: much as going on here, then what's going on there?
Speaker 1: I mean, again, the Herryman Road story dates back to
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds. People were people seeing something up until then.
Speaker 1: Like that's just it's just wild man. And you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, the no rad scrambling, the UFO, the
Speaker 1: freaking the astronomer saying, oh we have these green lights
Speaker 1: are like one a million, one in a million, and
Speaker 1: I got people who said they've seen them multiple times.
Speaker 1: It's it's just really weird and fascinating and I'm doing
Speaker 1: my best just to kind of document what is taking
Speaker 1: place in the Brushian Creek area. Man. And now we
Speaker 1: haven't even talked about the bodies.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, and we haven't even talked about
Speaker 2: the bodies. But yeah, yeah, people can check that out
Speaker 2: on your YouTube channel of your stuff. Man, how can
Speaker 2: they get ahold of you and all that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can check me out on YouTube. Media Palace,
Speaker 1: my website Mediapalace dot ned. If you want to email me,
Speaker 1: it's ericmedia Palace at gmail dot com. If you're in
Speaker 1: the central Texas area, I'd really like to hear from
Speaker 1: me if you have any interesting insight into what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. I would if you have that video, hey, look,
Speaker 1: you know, let's take it in twenty seventeen. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: if you feel free to get a hold of me,
Speaker 1: and I'm working on the expedition Brushy Creek where you
Speaker 1: saw the excerpt where we interviewed that native woman, and
Speaker 1: the expedition Brusher Creek is going to have the footage
Speaker 1: where the pebbles were being thrown. So that should be
Speaker 1: coming out here probably within the week. Awesome, So please
Speaker 1: check that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking forward to it. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the documentary Beast of Brushy Creek is on streaming
Speaker 1: platforms Amazon two be It's on my YouTube channel. I
Speaker 1: also have the Legend of Harryman road dates on a
Speaker 1: couple of platforms. It's on my YouTube channels as well,
Speaker 1: so please check.
Speaker 2: It out and I will post a link in the
Speaker 2: description below whenever this episode comes out, So if you're listening,
Speaker 2: scroll down check it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank you please, Eric.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me, Man, I've thoroughly enjoyed it and
Speaker 2: I look forward to some off air conversations in the future.
Speaker 1: Man, definitely, I look forward with Matt. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: inviting me on Man.
Speaker 2: Thank you absolutely. And if you've had your own encounter
Speaker 2: with the Hairy Man or a poulter Geist or a UFO,
Speaker 2: send me NeiMa Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com. Check
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