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<v Speaker 1>Growing up as kids, we always hear the story of

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<v Speaker 1>the hairy Man. The story goes the family was traveling

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<v Speaker 1>through and their youngest son fell off the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the wagon. They didn't realize that they kept going and

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<v Speaker 1>he pretty much grew up in that area with no

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<v Speaker 1>family as a fair old person covered in hair, and

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<v Speaker 1>people would encounter him traveling through the Chisholm Trail. He

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<v Speaker 1>was said that he would be hanging in the trees

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<v Speaker 1>and his toe nails would spread the tops of the

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<v Speaker 1>canvases at the wagons. I actually found a book that

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<v Speaker 1>was written by the local postmaster in the area and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes on to tell the story of these high

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<v Speaker 1>school kids that were hanging out in the area, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the kids he ends up getting stranded out

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<v Speaker 1>there on Harryman Road around midnight and he's forced to

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<v Speaker 1>walk back to town on Harryman Road. He claims that

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<v Speaker 1>he was approached and encountered a large hairy man and

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<v Speaker 1>he had to outrun this hairy man and get back

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<v Speaker 1>to town.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to welcome Eric to Bigfoot Crossroads. Eric caught

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<v Speaker 2>my attention very recently this past week, and he has

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<v Speaker 2>a YouTube channel called Media Palace, which I'm sure he'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you all about but he has some very interesting

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<v Speaker 2>videos there that I've been checking out, and I encourage

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<v Speaker 2>you to go check them out as well. Eric Man,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for joining me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yang, Thanks for having me on Man, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for letting me be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're from the Austin, Texas area.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Central Texas pretty much born and raised. My family's

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<v Speaker 1>been here for a really long time. And yeah, been

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<v Speaker 1>hanging around the Austin area.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did you end up getting interested in the Bigfoot?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Man? Yeah, that's that's a great question. It kind

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<v Speaker 1>of started with when I know, I started noticing some

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<v Speaker 1>weird stuff taking place in my hometown of Williamson County here,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just north of Austin. And we've always kind

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<v Speaker 1>of had this myth or this mythos of the hairy Man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I grew up hearing about the hairy Man Hairyman Road.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually a road called Harryman Road that comes right

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<v Speaker 1>through town, and we grew up hearing that as kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Never really thought much of it, just figured it was

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<v Speaker 1>a story that they would tell kids to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>keep them entertained while driving on that road. But growing

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<v Speaker 1>up and after you know, kind of hearing people's encounters

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<v Speaker 1>and some other strange things going on, I started digging

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<v Speaker 1>into it. And that was around twenty eighteen when I

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<v Speaker 1>started researching the area and all that information that I

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<v Speaker 1>gathered ended up becoming my first documentary, The Beast of

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<v Speaker 1>Brushy Creek, And in that documentary I was able to

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<v Speaker 1>actually find the true story of the hairy Man and

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<v Speaker 1>how harry Man Road got its name. Growing up as kids,

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<v Speaker 1>we always hear the story of the hairy Man, that

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<v Speaker 1>it was a group of frontiers people traveling on the

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<v Speaker 1>Chisen Trail. The famous Chisen Trail runs here where I'm at,

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<v Speaker 1>where they used to run cattle up north, and the

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<v Speaker 1>story goes the family was traveling through and their youngest

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<v Speaker 1>son fell off the back of the wagon. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize it and they kept going, and he pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in that area with no family as a

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<v Speaker 1>fair old person covered in hair, and people would encounter

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<v Speaker 1>him traveling through the Chisholm Trail. He was said that

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<v Speaker 1>he would be hanging in the trees and his toenails

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<v Speaker 1>would script the tops of the canvases at the wagon.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a story that we grew up hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's you know, exaggerated, and who knows what all

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<v Speaker 1>could have been true. But while researching for my documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually found a book that was written by the

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<v Speaker 1>local postmaster in the area and he confirmed and it's

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<v Speaker 1>written in the books saying, you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stories about harry Manroe got its name, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is the real story. And he goes on to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the story of these high school kids that were hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out in the area. We have all their names, and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the kids, his name was Shorty Caldwell. He

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<v Speaker 1>was actually the star football quarterback of Round Rock High

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<v Speaker 1>School at attack. He ends up getting stranded out there

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<v Speaker 1>on harry Man Road around midnight and he's forced to

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<v Speaker 1>walk back to town on harry Man Road. This is

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<v Speaker 1>before it was named harry Man Roy and then he

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<v Speaker 1>claims that he was approached and encountered a large harry

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<v Speaker 1>Man and he had to outrun this harry Man and

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<v Speaker 1>get back to town. The next day he got to school,

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<v Speaker 1>he talked about it with the other kids there and

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty much caught like wildfire. Everybody was to talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it. And shortly after that, there was a man

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<v Speaker 1>who was opening up a store off of Harryman Road,

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<v Speaker 1>and he wanted to get some some postage and some

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<v Speaker 1>paperwork that has his address and all that stuff on there.

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<v Speaker 1>So he went to the post office and he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm trying to get some some you know, stationery.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the name of this road here? It's just the

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<v Speaker 1>country road and the postmatterss. So I don't know the

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<v Speaker 1>real name, but everybody calls it harry Van Road, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he thought that was hilarious, and he went down

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<v Speaker 1>to the courthouse and trying to get the official name.

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<v Speaker 1>And he comes back into the post office laughing, and

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<v Speaker 1>he tells the post office the apostal worker there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's officially called Harryman Road now, but it wasn't what

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't without some controversy there a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>old timers did not want that road to be called

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<v Speaker 1>Harryman Road. And why that is we can only speculate.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the book it explains that one of the

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<v Speaker 1>one of the older residents of the area, his name

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<v Speaker 1>was Folks. There's actually a school named CD Folks in

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<v Speaker 1>the area that shows you how much of it of

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<v Speaker 1>the person he was in the community. He thought tooth

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<v Speaker 1>and nail to get a changed. You wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>a change to Fern Bluff Road because he told the

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<v Speaker 1>people that are named it, be careful because you're stepping

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<v Speaker 1>on hhllowed ground. But zas that was kind of weird

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<v Speaker 1>when he kind of said it like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really weird. And harry Man Road is actually surrounded

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of it, A good part of it is

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by a ranch that's been there for generations and generations.

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<v Speaker 1>And I should probably explain where I am in the

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<v Speaker 1>Central Texas area. We're part of the Balcone's Escarpment, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Balcone's Escarpment is like a mini Grand Canyon that

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<v Speaker 1>runs from San Antonio almost all the way up to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually visible from space, full of full of creeks

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<v Speaker 1>and crevices, caves, a lot of limestone caves everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>there has been people living in this area for centuries.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was in the nineteen seventies they found

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<v Speaker 1>right off the Brushy Creek. At the time, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest complete skeleton. They dated it at thirteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years old. There was just some woman and she was

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<v Speaker 1>an ancient Native American. Shortly after that, while they were

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<v Speaker 1>constructing the highway here I thirty five again off of

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<v Speaker 1>the Brushy Creek, they had found some Indian burial mounds

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<v Speaker 1>and at the bottom of one of these Indian burial

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<v Speaker 1>mounds was an ancient Roman coin and everybody was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, WHOA, how'd that get there? And so they

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<v Speaker 1>took the coin to the University of Texas and Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>There were two professors that looked at the coin and

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<v Speaker 1>they came up with different different conclusions. One of the professors,

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<v Speaker 1>who was from the East Coast, he had moved here

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<v Speaker 1>to be a professor university. He had claimed that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a World War two relic someone had brought back

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<v Speaker 1>after the war and they were walking along with Brushy Creek.

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<v Speaker 1>They dropped it when a road and grabbed it and

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<v Speaker 1>burrowed underground, and that's how it got to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of an Indian burial. Now, the other professor knew the

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<v Speaker 1>person who found the coin, and once he realized that

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<v Speaker 1>person had found the coin, he called him and they

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<v Speaker 1>spoke and he believed the one hundred percent that it

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<v Speaker 1>was it had to be an original deposit. For whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew the person. He said they grew up together

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<v Speaker 1>relic hunting. They learned under the same relicuntry in Georgetown,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not far from where I am. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we without the Bigfoot or the Sasquatch topic. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting and weird place. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>have been living here for a long time. And I

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<v Speaker 1>not to mention in twenty fourteen, about fifty yards from

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<v Speaker 1>where I grew up my home as a child, the backyard,

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<v Speaker 1>about fifty yards from where our backyard was, they found

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<v Speaker 1>three ancient Native American burial mounts there, and unfortunately they

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<v Speaker 1>In Texas, we have a really strange law where it

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<v Speaker 1>allows the construction company to hire their own anthropologist. So

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times, yeah, a lot of times we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get them hiring someone that's obviously in favor of the

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<v Speaker 1>construction so they'll just be like, oh, yeah, nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>see here, go ahead, and you know, build a road

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<v Speaker 1>over and build a street over. So unfortunately, we had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea how old these people were, where they came from.

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<v Speaker 1>Were they part of the same tribe that was in

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<v Speaker 1>the area. We really don't know. That's really unfortunately we

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<v Speaker 1>could have had some you know, another Neanderthal woman the

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen thousand year old woman. But again that just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of explains the strangeness of the area. You take that

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<v Speaker 1>you take the hairy Man Road. And again, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of researching all of this and

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<v Speaker 1>it ended up becoming the Beast of Brushy Creek documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>And what had really caught my eye was that in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen, we had a mountain of bigfoot sightings. For

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason that was, we were getting bigfoot sightings and

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<v Speaker 1>were encounters. We were hearing this, you know, on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>and other social media platforms. There was actually rumored I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see this, but I heard about it. While researching,

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<v Speaker 1>I was in different Facebook groups, asking questions multiple people

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<v Speaker 1>about five different people. I still have the messages. All

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<v Speaker 1>of them told me that I needed to reach out

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<v Speaker 1>to this one person. Apparently this guy had taken a

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<v Speaker 1>video of something that was walking along the Brushy Creek.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had seen the video. The people that had messaged

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<v Speaker 1>me told me that it was a clear video of

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<v Speaker 1>this black figure, very tall and lengthy, walking near the creek.

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<v Speaker 1>It got taken down very shortly after that. The guy

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<v Speaker 1>was removed, and really all we have left is the people,

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<v Speaker 1>the original people that had seen this.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So multiple people had told me about this and they're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>to reach out to that guy. So I did reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to him, and he told me a really incredible story.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, Yes, I did take footage of something there,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't talk about it. I signed an on

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<v Speaker 1>disclosure agreement. I have all these messages, I had everything here,

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<v Speaker 1>and that really got interested in like, what the heck's

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<v Speaker 1>going on here? So shortly after that, this is all fact.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go look at this. The FBI sent an

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<v Speaker 1>email to the chief of police here in Round Rock saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard about your you know, sasquatch sightings and all

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<v Speaker 1>the dealings that's going on in the area. We're offering

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<v Speaker 1>you any help you need, and we're giving you a

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<v Speaker 1>bounty of five hundred thousand dollars for anyone that can

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<v Speaker 1>provide information capture. This is the fact this happened. I

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<v Speaker 1>have the email. And so a lot of people played

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<v Speaker 1>it off as like, oh, this is a publicity snunt

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<v Speaker 1>for the county and you know the city's doing this

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<v Speaker 1>publicity stuff. But when you look at it, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why would the FBI be involved? Yeah, and we know

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI was involved because the person who sent that email,

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<v Speaker 1>I know his name, I have all this information at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, was the head of the FBI in Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a fact. And I went and looked at his

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<v Speaker 1>resume online you can look at it on LinkedIn or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and in there it says that he is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was involved in the nine to eleven situation, and

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<v Speaker 1>a covert information, secret information, and ten secret facilities inside

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas. That's all there. It's on his LinkedIn profile.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're wondering, like, why is this guy sending an

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's if it was just one of these

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<v Speaker 1>obviously tourist based or you know, the bigfoot license stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that hunting license. Then yeah, that all sounds kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gimmicky. But we can trace this back to the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the FBI in Texas. That's a fact. That's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the FBI can be directly involved in

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<v Speaker 2>marketing schemes exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's not for tourism.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that the guy who had taken the video

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<v Speaker 1>happening at the same time so had mentioned the the

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI sending that email. The same day that email

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<v Speaker 1>was sent, I believe it was June seventeen, twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure about that. I have to look back

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<v Speaker 1>my notes, but the same I know, the same day

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI put out the that email, there was an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly detailed encounter on the BFROL website in the same

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<v Speaker 1>area the FBI had referenced. So it's like, well, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on here? Are they Are they monitoring the BFRO

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<v Speaker 1>sites or are they putting information up there? It's really

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<v Speaker 1>odd strange. The same day this happened. Yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>took me two years, but I was able to track

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<v Speaker 1>down the person who made that report, incredibly professional person,

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<v Speaker 1>master's degree he had. He definitely saw something. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>him wholeheartedly one percent. I am trying to get him

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<v Speaker 1>jelling his experience, because very detailed. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's he definitely saw something. In my opinion, The next

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<v Speaker 1>closest sighting we have to the one that happened that

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<v Speaker 1>day was the next day we had two sidings taking place,

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<v Speaker 1>the one you know, the FBI's or whatever the siding

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<v Speaker 1>happens or vice versa, the siding could have happened the effect.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day we have another siding. Someone sees something

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<v Speaker 1>crossing the road, not far it's on the same county

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<v Speaker 1>and everything like that, And I mean, it's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>is this a coincidence? What's going on here? Like FBI

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<v Speaker 1>is involved. We know that people are seeing stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Facebook, social media is talking about it. So

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<v Speaker 1>that really got my gears turning, like, hey, something is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to I mean, I'm just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sitting here in awe right now, to be honest, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not just a podcast. I mean I am, but

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a bigfooter for twenty five years now, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking back, what the hell was I doing in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seventeen, because before I stumbled across you this past

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<v Speaker 2>week and went and looked at your YouTube channel. The

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<v Speaker 2>Austin area was nowhere on my radar for bigfoot. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea this was even going on. And

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<v Speaker 2>the events that you're talking about with like a video disappearing,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have thought that I would have heard about that,

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<v Speaker 2>But I've never heard about any of this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, And that's crazy because local people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some people that I talked to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done the media stuff here in town, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of unaware of it too. They're like, whoa, they

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<v Speaker 1>put out a bigfoot thing? When did that happen? I

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<v Speaker 1>have to show them to email to show that was true.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened, you know. So what they did a really

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<v Speaker 1>good job. I don't know. I didn't ask they covering

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<v Speaker 1>up or you know whatever, but they did a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever they did.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I'm saying without saying it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like this right, this is pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Like I said, everything I'm going to talk about here,

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<v Speaker 1>I have documentation for if you want to see it,

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<v Speaker 1>I can provide it everything I have. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>well we'll circle around to this one. We'll circle around

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<v Speaker 1>to this one towards the end, because I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what happened when I did the four your request, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's that's really interesting too. But again that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of got me wanting to know, like, hey, is there

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<v Speaker 1>more of a paper trail with this whole Bigfoot subject?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there other things going on here? And so I

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<v Speaker 1>have a background in journalism, so I started doing I

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<v Speaker 1>started hearing about certain events that were taking place, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, let me let me fall your

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<v Speaker 1>request and see if I can get some information on that.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a few cases that I've been lucky enough

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<v Speaker 1>to do full your Requests and get information on, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>various topics and incidents that have occurred in recent times

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff that's even a little bit further back. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's really kind of what I'm I'm focusing on now

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<v Speaker 1>is finding the hard data. Because I know I found it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's true, it's a fact. Uh, But I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to keep digging the sea, like I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find the paper trail, the breadcomb trail that leads

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, maybe we can get you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe there's photos out there, maybe there's other you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like my goal with putting out the documentary was maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe somebody saved that that video from Facebook and we

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<v Speaker 1>can get them to come forward or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really my whole, my whole goal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, yeah, doing like these other four year requests,

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<v Speaker 1>Like recently I had done one for this, uh this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff going on in Louisiana. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>heard about that. There were some kids out there and

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<v Speaker 1>uh Kasachi National Forest and they were they were too

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<v Speaker 1>scared to leave. They could not. They were surrounded by something,

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<v Speaker 1>something was stalking them and and they It made the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Post and a couple of other news you know,

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<v Speaker 1>news agent organizations and stuff like that, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, shoot, let me let me do the

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<v Speaker 1>FOY request and see if we can get any any

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<v Speaker 1>documentation on it. And I was able to get the

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<v Speaker 1>nine to one one call. I just posted that I

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<v Speaker 1>have the call sheets, the the radio reports from there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have the person's future.

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<v Speaker 2>A few episodes ago, I had a couple guys on

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<v Speaker 2>they're putting on a Bigfoot conference in that area. The

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<v Speaker 2>episode titles Louisiana Bigfoot, where they talked about that incident specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them had actually gone out with some

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<v Speaker 2>others and investigated the area right after it happened and

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<v Speaker 2>had some crazy stuff happen. So yeah, that's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have the coordinates. I have the actual coordinance here,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm really looking forward to possibly going out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully one of the witnesses will be able to accompany

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<v Speaker 1>me and we can kind of relive what took place

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean, like you hear about this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and at these cases and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>really I'm honestly kind of passed the Oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my cousin's niece's brother saw this and you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>got you know, that's not really I'm not really interested

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<v Speaker 1>in that. I want the hard dat. I want the

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<v Speaker 1>info that's out there, the documentation and anything like that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So No, I did that one. I did. I've done

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<v Speaker 1>a few on the on the National Parks, which I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten some really interesting information on some of the National

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<v Speaker 1>Parks stuff. Uh. There was one four year request that

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<v Speaker 1>I have that at the top of it, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had one like this before. At the top of it,

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<v Speaker 1>it says this was not approved by a supervisor. It's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had heard about this. It was a group

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<v Speaker 1>of people that were camping in Colorado and they had

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<v Speaker 1>seen bone piles and there was an alleged big foot

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<v Speaker 1>sighting in that area from these people. We had no

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<v Speaker 1>idea to this day how the rangers had learned about this.

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<v Speaker 1>There was there's no information if it was called, if

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, heard it face to face. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how they got to call it is reported in

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<v Speaker 1>a in an incident summary report to say, hey, group

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<v Speaker 1>of people witnessed, you know, skull or a bones and

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<v Speaker 1>in sighting a bigfoot and they called the people bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>hunters or something like that. But when you read through

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<v Speaker 1>the document, that's all it says. There's no information on there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it says on there at the very bottom it

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<v Speaker 1>says the ranger did not go out to investigate due

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<v Speaker 1>to a medical issue. Okay, Now that was a smart

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<v Speaker 1>way of hiding this. Okay. They had to say it

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<v Speaker 1>was medical because when they say it's medical that falls

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<v Speaker 1>under the HIPPA exemption, it's no longer it's no longer

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<v Speaker 1>for you accessible.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point, I mean, they're saying that a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people reported on federal land finding human remains potentially

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<v Speaker 2>at least, and that they didn't investigate or record any

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<v Speaker 2>of the names or personal information of the reporting parties.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no information whatsoever. And on all the other

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<v Speaker 1>point requests I have, I have that information, some of the interdacted,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean even the ranger's name. You're able to

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<v Speaker 1>see the ranger who conducted it. This one that's black out.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no idea who the ranger was. All we

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<v Speaker 1>know is that a parent, they had a medical issue

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<v Speaker 1>and they that left them unable to go out.

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<v Speaker 2>There at that moment, at that exact moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, what's your job, dude? You're hired, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're not the only ranger on duty exactly. You would

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<v Speaker 1>think they would hire able bodied, you know, people to

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and back. But it's like, but where

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<v Speaker 1>is And so all that to me is just saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, that's just like you know, rand flags left

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<v Speaker 1>or right about how about that stuff? And you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of start to see that when you do a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of the of the digging, it just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>it leads you into a weird, weird direction. Man. To

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, and that's really what I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>Following these paper trailers. It's like you'll get some stuf, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just like a lot of the stuff's missing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can get exemptions on a four year request.

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<v Speaker 1>They are rare, they're very rare. But a hippo would

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<v Speaker 1>be one of those exemptions. So I did the four

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<v Speaker 1>year quests on this one, and obviously they said they

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<v Speaker 1>But I have reached out to people in that area

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<v Speaker 1>there at this time, just trying to figure out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just to because we know it happened, we know the date,

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<v Speaker 1>we have all that stuff. But I mean, just the

419
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<v Speaker 1>report is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen,

420
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<v Speaker 1>and it's just so short, really no information, and at

421
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<v Speaker 1>the topic says this was not approved by supervisor. How

422
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<v Speaker 1>how does that work? I have no idea.

423
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<v Speaker 2>So whenever you put in these requests, what do you

424
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<v Speaker 2>ask for? Specifically?

425
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<v Speaker 1>It really depends on what I'm what the what I'm

426
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<v Speaker 1>looking for, How I got the information, Like if it's

427
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<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot in like this, I'll have like I heard

428
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:05.720
<v Speaker 1>about this through a through an incident summary on the

429
00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:09.680
<v Speaker 1>National Parks website. They have a huge database of just

430
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<v Speaker 1>files and files, and I was lucky enough to be

431
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:15.200
<v Speaker 1>scamming through there and find just a little short two

432
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<v Speaker 1>sentence thing saying, hey, incident number, you know whatever group

433
00:23:19.839 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 1>reports bone piles and seeing bigfoot, and I was like,

434
00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:24.480
<v Speaker 1>what the hell is out you know, let's take a

435
00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:28.960
<v Speaker 1>look at this. So with that incidents summary number, I

436
00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:31.920
<v Speaker 1>was able to do the four request saying, hey, give

437
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.759
<v Speaker 1>me all the information, any documentation, everything regarding you know,

438
00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:40.039
<v Speaker 1>X report or whatever. And that's really what you want

439
00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.240
<v Speaker 1>to do. You want to be as detailed as possible

440
00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:45.279
<v Speaker 1>when you're doing the four year request because at that point,

441
00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.039
<v Speaker 1>when you're so detailed and you know things happened, it

442
00:23:48.039 --> 00:23:49.559
<v Speaker 1>makes it harder for them to deny it.

443
00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Right, And we.

444
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<v Speaker 1>Can kind of go into some of the more This

445
00:23:55.039 --> 00:23:58.799
<v Speaker 1>is going to get kind of controversial here, but I've

446
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>been working on, you know, like I said, trying to

447
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:06.480
<v Speaker 1>find hard data that shows, you know, some sort of

448
00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:11.799
<v Speaker 1>government involvement. And I believe I one percent found that, uh,

449
00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to be working on a project to

450
00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:17.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of compress that here and for people to see that.

451
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:19.759
<v Speaker 1>But if I could let me, can I read you

452
00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:22.279
<v Speaker 1>this email here the kind of well, not excuse me,

453
00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:24.799
<v Speaker 1>not email. This is a letter as all this was.

454
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<v Speaker 1>So it's a fact the government has known they've been

455
00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>briefed on Bigfoot since nineteen sixty nine. This is Faction one.

456
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<v Speaker 1>There's no denying, and I have the documentation here. This

457
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<v Speaker 1>is a letter that was written December fifteenth, nineteen sixty nine.

458
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<v Speaker 1>You're adapted. The President has asked me to thank you

459
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<v Speaker 1>for your letter of December four and the brochure explaining

460
00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:53.640
<v Speaker 1>plans for the American YETI expedition nineteen seventy referring your

461
00:24:53.720 --> 00:24:59.559
<v Speaker 1>letter to the Secretary of Interior, sincerely redacted. So that's

462
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>a letter that the President actually read.

463
00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:07.119
<v Speaker 2>And was briefed on an expedition, and was.

464
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<v Speaker 1>Briefed on an expedition one. There was an expedition that

465
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<v Speaker 1>I have all the documentation. There was an expedition that

466
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:19.079
<v Speaker 1>took place in twenty nineteen sixty nine where they had

467
00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>some success. They had some success, and that's where the

468
00:25:23.079 --> 00:25:28.599
<v Speaker 1>debrief came from. And this is pretty much saying, hey,

469
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 1>we had some success. We want to go back out there.

470
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<v Speaker 1>This is our plans for the next expedition. That's what

471
00:25:36.680 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>That's what was said. Now I actually have the plans

472
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<v Speaker 1>for the expedition, a couple of those sheets. I was

473
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>able to get a couple of those.

474
00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:48.079
<v Speaker 2>And it's a wild Is this Department of Interior or

475
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:50.000
<v Speaker 2>is it just a private party?

476
00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:56.119
<v Speaker 1>So this is crazy. He sends this to the White House.

477
00:25:56.200 --> 00:25:59.200
<v Speaker 1>The President sees this, and then he refers it to

478
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:03.599
<v Speaker 1>the Secretary of Interior. The Department of Interior is in

479
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>charge of all the national parks in the nation, So

480
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:11.519
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like WHOA. Not only that, but I

481
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:15.359
<v Speaker 1>have I have I have documentation from the same person saying, hey,

482
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have all the cooperation of the National

483
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Parks Department. You know, we have we have all these

484
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:24.839
<v Speaker 1>people helping as they had Eddie Bauer, the Eddie Bauer

485
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>company supplying them with gear. I mean, we have scientists

486
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that were out there, biologists that went out there. This happened, happened,

487
00:26:34.279 --> 00:26:37.599
<v Speaker 1>It's factual. I have the documentation to prove that. Now,

488
00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.079
<v Speaker 1>they were also looking for this is where it gets interesting.

489
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.880
<v Speaker 1>They were looking for well, I don't know if they

490
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:46.640
<v Speaker 1>were looking forward, but I think it was recommended to

491
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:51.519
<v Speaker 1>them about dealing with the Agricultural Department and possibly getting

492
00:26:51.519 --> 00:26:54.519
<v Speaker 1>assistance from them. And I saw where they put in

493
00:26:54.599 --> 00:26:59.279
<v Speaker 1>an application to get help with this yetty expedition from

494
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the Department of Agriculture that was denied. I have that

495
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.759
<v Speaker 1>saying that it was not saying hey, we're only allocated

496
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 1>a certain amount of people in funds, we can't help

497
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you out. But they had another letter saying, hey, you

498
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 1>need to send this to the National Science Foundation. Okay,

499
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>so they sent it to the National Science Foundation. I

500
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:23.640
<v Speaker 1>have the receipt from the National Science Foundation. I have

501
00:27:23.680 --> 00:27:25.839
<v Speaker 1>the receipt from I want to say, the White House

502
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.759
<v Speaker 1>saying give them whatever they need pretty much. I have

503
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>this receipt, I have all that stuff. And that's where

504
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:36.599
<v Speaker 1>the trail goes cold. I would have figured in this

505
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>in where I was able to find all the documents

506
00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>since I found the rejection letter from the Department of Agriculture. Oh,

507
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.960
<v Speaker 1>let me find the rejection letter for the National Science Foundation.

508
00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't find it, so I Follier requested it and

509
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.559
<v Speaker 1>the National Science Foundation. Before I mentioned anything, I just said, hey,

510
00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, looking for documentation on you know, YETI expedition

511
00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty nine, seventy whatever, and they sent something

512
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 1>back saying, oh, we've never heard of this, nothing, nothing.

513
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, oh really, because here's your president,

514
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.359
<v Speaker 1>here's your president saying they were willing to assist. And

515
00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:15.079
<v Speaker 1>I sent that back. I sent them the the letter

516
00:28:15.240 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that was there and everything, and then like a not

517
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 1>even a like an hour later, they're like, Okay, we'll

518
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>look into this. We'll get back to you. So I

519
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>just got the The U took about two months their

520
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 1>response and they're like, yeah, we can't find any denial

521
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>letter or anything like that. I'm like, what did the

522
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>National Science Foundation get involved? And they possibly fund this?

523
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 1>It's wild, man, and it's crazy. But I mean, we

524
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:52.720
<v Speaker 1>have the stuff in there saying this is crazy too, man,

525
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>this is really crazy that in the briefing, the brochure

526
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that they're talking about here, he says, the guy who's

527
00:29:01.640 --> 00:29:06.279
<v Speaker 1>writing this says, we have someone at Hardwick College who's

528
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.519
<v Speaker 1>willing to go like pretty much off the record with

529
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever we find. And they wanted to it's written in there.

530
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Who knows what happened or not. They wanted to capture

531
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:19.519
<v Speaker 1>something that was their goal it says it all the brochure.

532
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:21.559
<v Speaker 1>It says that they were trying to capture or possibly

533
00:29:21.640 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>kill something now in the Cascade Mountains, that's where it

534
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>was taking place. So they said that they had someone

535
00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 1>to work at I believe it was Hardwick College. It

536
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>was going to be working off the books for them

537
00:29:32.960 --> 00:29:35.960
<v Speaker 1>once they retrieved the body or they had something. It's

538
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 1>all really crazy.

539
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, in that timeframe, there's only a handful of

540
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 2>people that could have been involved in that. And exactly

541
00:29:45.640 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 2>surely I know somebody that knows somebody. I mean already,

542
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.680
<v Speaker 2>like two large names are popping in my head about

543
00:29:54.920 --> 00:29:56.519
<v Speaker 2>people that could have been involved.

544
00:29:56.200 --> 00:30:00.200
<v Speaker 1>In this awesome No, so I know the person involved this.

545
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I have all the unredacted stuff. Uh. They are still alive,

546
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.839
<v Speaker 1>believe it or not. And I am trying my hardest

547
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:09.759
<v Speaker 1>to get in touch with this guy, like, hey, what

548
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>do you know? Tell me I want to know what

549
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>happened because there's a lot of questions. Unfortunately, I haven't

550
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 1>been able to get a hold of that person, but

551
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I know who they are. But like I was telling

552
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you about the Hardwack College, they had someone off the

553
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:27.559
<v Speaker 1>books ready to assist with the you know, biology portion

554
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 1>of this, and fast forward, fast forward a couple of years.

555
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've seen Hardwick College has a

556
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:40.200
<v Speaker 1>gigantic statue of a gigantopithecus standing out there, uh, which

557
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you're like, what, what's going on? It's yeah, like what

558
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:51.480
<v Speaker 1>how at the same college where they could have taken

559
00:30:51.839 --> 00:31:00.559
<v Speaker 1>a specimen or I don't know the right right And

560
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 1>it's a big, old scary statue they have out there

561
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>of what they're saying is a giganto pieces. It's all

562
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>just really crazy and strange. And I mean we're even

563
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 1>in the in the documentation they're talking about they're talking about, yeah,

564
00:31:16.839 --> 00:31:21.519
<v Speaker 1>like doing stuff off of the books, you know. I

565
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>mean it's just all really like I got to look,

566
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:26.119
<v Speaker 1>I gotta dig through some of the stuff. But it's

567
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>just it's wild. I mean, it's a fact the government

568
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>has known, has been debriefed on it since nineteen sixty nine.

569
00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Are they still involved? You know? I really can't say,

570
00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 1>but from since it's other stuff, it's like, man that

571
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't can honestly, it's like, oh, it's going on here,

572
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 1>but no, I mean they're talking about how much you know,

573
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 1>like how much they're willing to invest in this, and

574
00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 1>again who's all involved. We've got biologists, we've got Eddy

575
00:31:55.160 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Power sponsoring some of this stuff. And really what I've

576
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>seen is that what happened was they were kind of

577
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>they had heard about this stuff taking place in Russia

578
00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty seven with a lot of the yetty expeditions,

579
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and they did not want to be left out in

580
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>the cold. So I believe this was somewhat kind of

581
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 1>like a response, almost with possibly more success.

582
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm thinking about like the different situations where

583
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:29.839
<v Speaker 2>the government has gotten involved in investigating areas shall we say,

584
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>supernatural paranorm whatever you want to call it. Remote viewing

585
00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:35.119
<v Speaker 2>comes to mind. You know, we know that they were

586
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:39.079
<v Speaker 2>involved in researching that, but then at a certain point

587
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>they turn it over to a private group. You know,

588
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 2>that's not corrected to the government, so their hands aren't

589
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.200
<v Speaker 2>getting dirty, but they're still responsible and still funding it

590
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 2>and completely involved hands on. And it sounds like that's

591
00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:56.119
<v Speaker 2>what you're finding out now about this.

592
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 1>I believe that's one hundred percent of what happened. These

593
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.519
<v Speaker 1>people were hired because you can only foll your request

594
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 1>up to pretty much where I'm at right now. I mean,

595
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:09.759
<v Speaker 1>they're talking about their salaries in there. We know this.

596
00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I know this person worked for the Central Intelligence Agency.

597
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>That is a fact on the same person who sent

598
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 1>this email worked for the Central Intelligence Agency. How do

599
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I know is because in this briefing he says, Oh,

600
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>pay me what they were paying me at this at

601
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.039
<v Speaker 1>the Central Intelligence or like he's saying, our guys, all

602
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>our central intelligence guys will work under a G nine, uh,

603
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:33.519
<v Speaker 1>a G nine payment or whatever, which a G nine,

604
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>G eleven. Those are all military grade pay pay grades,

605
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I believe. So it's like, man, it's just like it's

606
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:44.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of all over here, but it's you know, you

607
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.599
<v Speaker 1>want to you can deny it as much as you want,

608
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:51.319
<v Speaker 1>but one hundred percent factual. And even in there, we

609
00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 1>have a letter from the d from I want to say,

610
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 1>it's one of the President's advisors. I have a letter

611
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.440
<v Speaker 1>and it says that, hey, what do we do about

612
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the legislation about this pretty much or something like that

613
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.799
<v Speaker 1>legislation involving the American yety or some I have the

614
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>AGM here to prove. But it's like, man, they were

615
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:11.440
<v Speaker 1>they actually trying to come up with some type of

616
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, laws and stuff.

617
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they were. I mean, there was just you know,

618
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.559
<v Speaker 2>popping in my head. There was like a legislation besides

619
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you know the famous stuff in like Washington, out in

620
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Florida for sure. Out in Florida, I believe there was

621
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:31.400
<v Speaker 2>a senator or a congressman that was pushing legislation about

622
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:37.800
<v Speaker 2>the skunk Cape around that same timeframe. Uh so obviously

623
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 2>those people would be in on the loop. I mean,

624
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.039
<v Speaker 2>those are the people that are leading the charge in

625
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.400
<v Speaker 2>UAP disclosure as we speak. So sure, I would assertained

626
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 2>this would be a similar type situation back then.

627
00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Well, you're talking about the skuncape. But real quick, I

628
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 1>tried to foll your quest of information on that, like

629
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the famous Mayaka skuncake picture, right, And so when I did,

630
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.119
<v Speaker 1>they said they didn't have any information on that, but

631
00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 1>they had over five thousand emails regarding big Flips And

632
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, holy cract, that's a lot of emails. That's yeah,

633
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 1>But they wanted like three grand for it, and I'm like,

634
00:35:11.719 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I can't pay you three grand for that, which you

635
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of start to see once you do some of

636
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the digging and stuff like like for the Louisiana instam

637
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I've been told there's body cam footage that, but they

638
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>want X amount of dollars because they have to redact it.

639
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 1>They've got to blurr people's faces and all this other stuff. Yeah,

640
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it gets to you know, it should be free information.

641
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>But it's really not like for the call that I had,

642
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I had to pay for that. You know, it's it's ridiculous.

643
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>But no, I mean, they they they've known. I can

644
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>confidently say they've known since nineteen sixty nine. That's provable

645
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:51.639
<v Speaker 1>at this point. There's no going around that how far

646
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.039
<v Speaker 1>it got. That's really a mystery. That's really kind of

647
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.679
<v Speaker 1>like well, and they even they even reference in the

648
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>brochure here they referenced Tom Slick, which I thought was interesting.

649
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I've always been a really really interest in the whole

650
00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Tom Slick saga. I've looked into it. I don't know

651
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:11.519
<v Speaker 1>if you've heard about these sightings that were taking place

652
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>in San Antonio in the seventies. I don't if you've

653
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:16.519
<v Speaker 1>heard about that. There was a bunch of sightings taking

654
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 1>place in the South San Antonio, Texas area, and he

655
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:23.119
<v Speaker 1>was like nineteen seventy six. A family had seen it

656
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:26.639
<v Speaker 1>multiple times. Neighbors in the area had seen a creature,

657
00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever, whatever, and I had done a livestream

658
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 1>about it, just kind of talking about it, talking about

659
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>my research into it. I was lucky enough to have

660
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 1>the brother who was involved in the seventies reached out

661
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to me saying, hey, you know, I was there, my

662
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.280
<v Speaker 1>whole family saw it or whatever, and he was kind

663
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of explaining it to me, and he told me something

664
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>that I had no idea. He said that when they

665
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.920
<v Speaker 1>were kids around the creek where people were seeing this thing,

666
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.480
<v Speaker 1>they would follow the creek and they would go up

667
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and there was a place that had gorillas and bad

668
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.400
<v Speaker 1>boons and closed in this area. And so that's kind

669
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>of interesting. Maybe it was just like an escape baboon

670
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 1>or you know, something like that gorilla. And then I

671
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.239
<v Speaker 1>started doing a little bit more digging, and for whatever reason,

672
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the park across the street was named Tom Slick Park,

673
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:17.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, that's kind of interesting. And I

674
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>come to find out that area that was housing the uh,

675
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the gorillas and you know, baboons was the facility that

676
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 1>Tom Slick himself had created, had developed. It was the

677
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>at the time it was like the National Biology. It

678
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>was something National Biology of something he had created this,

679
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:45.800
<v Speaker 1>so it's like, Wow, you have less than five miles

680
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.039
<v Speaker 1>away people seeing some type of bigfoot creature on two feet,

681
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and then you have this it's a it's I believe

682
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a area where they now do ape what do

683
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>they call it, like pheromones and stuff like that, leafs.

684
00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:04.119
<v Speaker 2>That's why I knew that there was a big primate

685
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 2>research facility down there.

686
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>That was Tom Slick.

687
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea it was connected to Tom Slick in

688
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:13.400
<v Speaker 2>any way exactly.

689
00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.679
<v Speaker 1>So that kind of leads you to think. That kind

690
00:38:15.679 --> 00:38:19.679
<v Speaker 1>of leads you to think, like this guy, he had

691
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>everything set up if he ever had a if he

692
00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>ever had a body, he knew where to take that

693
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to his own facility to where they could do all

694
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:31.079
<v Speaker 1>the research they wanted without the government's involvement. He could

695
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:33.679
<v Speaker 1>do pretty much, you know, and he had the money

696
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:35.639
<v Speaker 1>to do it. He absolutely had the money to do it,

697
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.039
<v Speaker 1>no questions about that. You know.

698
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Whenever bigfooters throw around, you know, the idea of well,

699
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.199
<v Speaker 2>you know what if we do get a body, then

700
00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 2>what he had the then right answered I.

701
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, I think I think I honestly believed that

702
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 1>he had more than what people know. I do. I

703
00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>do believe that, and then you can even go back

704
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.119
<v Speaker 1>to the you know, the there's a lot of controversy

705
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.159
<v Speaker 1>about that, the Yetty hand the smuggled out of Nepaul

706
00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>or but that you know, that was Tom Slick. He

707
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.360
<v Speaker 1>was trying to get body parts. Where do you think

708
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 1>they were going to test that at his facility? Where else?

709
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:12.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, let's come on, and that whole story is crazy.

710
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.239
<v Speaker 1>It is. Yeah, no, it's a it's a wild story.

711
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>But I mean he had been really researching and come

712
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:21.760
<v Speaker 1>to find out there's actually going to be a podcast

713
00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 1>released about I believe his granddaughters had found some new

714
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>letters and some new documents from his adventures. So there's

715
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:31.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a new podcast.

716
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Tomson, right, yeah, yeah.

717
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So it's gonna be weird. I mean, who knows

718
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna release, but I know, but YETI he's

719
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>for the Bigfoot. He's going to be a part of that.

720
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 1>But I mean it's just all like guys, when you

721
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.320
<v Speaker 1>do the digging and you start thinking logically, there's a

722
00:39:48.360 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 1>paper trail for it, it's like that's time speculative what

723
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. The Tom Slick stuff. But we know

724
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 1>they've been interested since nineteen sixty nine. Tom Slick died

725
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I want to say in nineteen sixty two, and before

726
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that he was the guy they were going through him,

727
00:40:09.599 --> 00:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>and when he passed away, it's like, you know, all

728
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>this stuff kind of gets taken over now that that

729
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.519
<v Speaker 1>agency is like a it's a private funded thing that

730
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he has. I don't think his family has any involvement

731
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:25.760
<v Speaker 1>in anymore. But I mean that was the perfect place

732
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 1>to just, you know, kind of run his experience and

733
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>try to find some answers. It was all he had

734
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the ability to do that. I really like to do

735
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:35.760
<v Speaker 1>some digging out. I might reach out to them literally

736
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>in San Antonio, but I'd really like to take a

737
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.679
<v Speaker 1>look at some of those recently found letters and see,

738
00:40:41.119 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, just kind of like I said, like I'm

739
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:44.599
<v Speaker 1>doing just kind of digging through the archives seeing if

740
00:40:44.599 --> 00:40:48.679
<v Speaker 1>there's anything that pops out like this nineteen sixty nine thing.

741
00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of crazy, but like I said, I've been

742
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 1>doing this four year quest and kind of circling back

743
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to the to the what happened in my area with

744
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:03.079
<v Speaker 1>the FBI investigation. I had so much information to write

745
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a crafted, really detailed freedom of information at could quest

746
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.119
<v Speaker 1>because of all the stuff that was happening, all the

747
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.519
<v Speaker 1>publicity was happening, the FBI put this letter out. I

748
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>have the dates, I had, name and everything I needed,

749
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>so I do the for your request and I get

750
00:41:18.440 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 1>back an exemption. I mean, why don't I get back

751
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>an exemption if it's just a you know, publicity stunt

752
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, you know, And on the exemption it says,

753
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, your year exempt for one of a couple

754
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:36.039
<v Speaker 1>of reasons, and it's like, you know, it's an ongoing investigation,

755
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a it's a national security matter, and

756
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:45.039
<v Speaker 1>some other really weird like the top names are involved

757
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>with it, so it's on a need to know basis.

758
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 1>Those are really the only times you would get a

759
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>hippa hippa would be another thing you'd get an exemption.

760
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:55.840
<v Speaker 1>So why did I get an exemption for this when

761
00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.559
<v Speaker 1>it's like so detailed and uh, you know, if it's

762
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>just some type of publicity stunt, why wouldn't they just

763
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:05.159
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, you know, not real or something like that.

764
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Now they're saying, we cannot give you that information because

765
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of one of the following things. You know, it's it's

766
00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:15.360
<v Speaker 1>a national security issue. It's people are the top echelon

767
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>are involved. You really take your picket that at that point, right,

768
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>So that's really kind of where that with that one.

769
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I really don't want to poke the

770
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:30.239
<v Speaker 1>bear because I live here. I mean, you know, people

771
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>are still seeing stuff, still reporting stuff. I had gotten

772
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 1>an email recently about it from who're not from, but

773
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it was about a bus driver and had been, you know,

774
00:42:41.519 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 1>with kids. And I have the documentation for this one

775
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that these kids were on the bus and something came

776
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 1>out and slapped the side of the bus and apparently

777
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>these kids saw it and the bus driver seen it

778
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.679
<v Speaker 1>and all that. And I just tried to do the

779
00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.159
<v Speaker 1>digging for this one and it just kind of kind

780
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.519
<v Speaker 1>of just dead ended. But people are still seeing things

781
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:04.800
<v Speaker 1>in the area. For the Harryman Road, it was I

782
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.199
<v Speaker 1>got a message from someone saying that they were on

783
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the Harryman Road. They're riding their bike and the rocks

784
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:13.599
<v Speaker 1>were getting thrown at. Think less than a week later,

785
00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the Harryman Road was closed and they were saying they

786
00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>were doing renovations and I went out there took video.

787
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.199
<v Speaker 1>There was nothing going on, nothing going on out there,

788
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:25.280
<v Speaker 1>but we went out there at night. We have on

789
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>video pebbles being thrown. We have this on video from

790
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.079
<v Speaker 1>out of the darkness. These pebbles are just being tossed

791
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>at us, Like, what the heck is going on? It's

792
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>just wild Man.

793
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 2>Now again, this area that you're talking about, it doesn't

794
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 2>seem like it's out in the middle of nowhere.

795
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right about that. It's not in the middle

796
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere. But the thing is all throughout Harryman Road.

797
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 1>There's caves and caverns that are miles long. Actually, in

798
00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, right after the fba I put out that thing,

799
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>there was a large cave in a neighborhood that off

800
00:44:04.519 --> 00:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of the Brushy Creek, and I believe they said that

801
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that cavern went over twenty chambers deep to the ground.

802
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 1>They never found the end of it. They just sealed

803
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>it up and covered up, and hey, they moved on

804
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:20.679
<v Speaker 1>after that. But almost every year you hear about sinkholes,

805
00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you hear about caverns being discovered. And we're actually not

806
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>far from the interspace caverns, which is a cavern. It's

807
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>like a little park or whatever. You can go and

808
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.199
<v Speaker 1>check out these caverns in the area. But now I

809
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:36.320
<v Speaker 1>believe that we are well. The other thing is that

810
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I bring my research. I found a document from the

811
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:44.320
<v Speaker 1>seventies from the Texas Plunkers Group from the University of Texas,

812
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:48.320
<v Speaker 1>and in there they said that there is possibly up

813
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:52.159
<v Speaker 1>to three thousand undiscovered caves in Winston County. You're like, wow,

814
00:44:52.199 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that's that's insane. Three thousand caves. But not only that,

815
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 1>but if you follow the green else and we have

816
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>some national preserves. The house that I was telling you,

817
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 1>I grew up as a kid where they found the

818
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 1>Native American burial mounts. That area is a walking trail

819
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and a it's a bike path, it's like eight miles.

820
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:15.079
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, and a National bird preserve. So there's no

821
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:21.199
<v Speaker 1>building or anything involved there. But all that stuff leads

822
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>back to the Balcony's Canyon Lands. Now, the Balconi's Canyon

823
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 1>Lands is a federal preserve. They close at five point thirty.

824
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:34.039
<v Speaker 1>I want to say, they're not open on the weekends.

825
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I think on Saturday they're not open and there's no drones.

826
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:40.280
<v Speaker 1>You have to stay on the trail. It's a really

827
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 1>weird area. The Balconi's Canyon LANs beautiful area, really untouched.

828
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:49.360
<v Speaker 1>No one has been able to camp out there at night,

829
00:45:49.440 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 1>like it's crazy. So all the creeks off of the

830
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Balconi's Escarpment lead back to the Balconi's canyon Lands. One

831
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of the weirdest things I ever got researching, and I'm looking,

832
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.519
<v Speaker 1>I've been looking forever for this picture. It was a

833
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>guy who had sent me this picture from a I

834
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 1>believe it was a drone, even though they could have

835
00:46:08.760 --> 00:46:11.519
<v Speaker 1>been a helicopter. It might have been a helicopter actually

836
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>because it was a couple years back. But in there

837
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:17.440
<v Speaker 1>they look like there is three cows. You think they're

838
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>cows on this trail and even points it out and

839
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wow, cows. There's no cattle in the Balcone's

840
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.559
<v Speaker 1>canyon Lands, Like what is there? They just look like

841
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 1>black blobs that are kind of you see, like you know,

842
00:46:29.559 --> 00:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a leg instead of like, what

843
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:33.559
<v Speaker 1>the heck is that. It's really weird, But you know,

844
00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 1>we're speculating at that point, but you're right, it's not

845
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 1>a in the middle of nowhere, but all roads lead

846
00:46:41.159 --> 00:46:44.320
<v Speaker 1>back to the Balcones Canyonlands. Now, I had mentioned that

847
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:46.519
<v Speaker 1>sighting that took place. You know, we had the sighting

848
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:49.559
<v Speaker 1>the FBI released that thing, and then the next day

849
00:46:49.599 --> 00:46:53.159
<v Speaker 1>we had that sighting. Right that sighting was a road

850
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:56.320
<v Speaker 1>right off of the Balconi's Canyon LANs. They had seen

851
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:59.519
<v Speaker 1>this thing, So, I mean, was it making its way

852
00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:03.199
<v Speaker 1>back to where it originally came from? We can only speculate,

853
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.039
<v Speaker 1>But it's just that the Baconies is, you know, miles

854
00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and miles of just again caverns, dense forest, and you know,

855
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.400
<v Speaker 1>you're you're not allowed to camp there after a certain time.

856
00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:18.559
<v Speaker 1>You're not allowed to camp through period, You're not allowed

857
00:47:18.599 --> 00:47:21.199
<v Speaker 1>to be there after six o'clock. So it's all really

858
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 1>strange and weird. Yeah, like what what's kind of you?

859
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to say they're hiding something, but it's like, man,

860
00:47:27.519 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>what's going on here? Why can't we I'm really interested

861
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>in getting a permit to possibly be out there and

862
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:36.039
<v Speaker 1>extend the amount of time overnight, just to catch some

863
00:47:36.119 --> 00:47:38.840
<v Speaker 1>of the more interesting wildlife out there. No one's ever

864
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:42.320
<v Speaker 1>captured anything out there at night, so it it'd be interesting.

865
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we get some cougars or even a black girl.

866
00:47:44.199 --> 00:47:47.519
<v Speaker 1>We don't have bears in the area, but who knows,

867
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>you know.

868
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:52.199
<v Speaker 2>So I watched the Brushy Creek the Beast of Brushy

869
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Creek documentary that you did. Yeah, I enjoyed it tremendously.

870
00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:01.199
<v Speaker 2>It was very eye opening for me. Information like I

871
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.239
<v Speaker 2>said that I was completely unaware of I had known

872
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 2>about the sinkhole incident, Okay, yeah, but whenever I heard

873
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.079
<v Speaker 2>about it, it was just that there was a sinkhole

874
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:15.159
<v Speaker 2>in the area. I didn't know that it led to

875
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:19.440
<v Speaker 2>this huge cave system underground. I had no idea about

876
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:22.119
<v Speaker 2>all the caves and stuff. But one of the things

877
00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that I kind of picked up from your documentary was

878
00:48:25.519 --> 00:48:30.559
<v Speaker 2>that this area, this Brushy Creek area, is another one

879
00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 2>of those places that you constantly run across if you

880
00:48:35.239 --> 00:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>get involved in anything unexplained, where it's not just one

881
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.400
<v Speaker 2>thing happening, it's a location where there's just weird stuff

882
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:44.079
<v Speaker 2>all the time.

883
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like I can go into detail

884
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.400
<v Speaker 1>about some of the stuff in my documentary, Like we

885
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>had a guy that I interviewed and he talked about

886
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>seeing this green light that followed his car. Yeah, And

887
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.559
<v Speaker 1>then shortly after that, actually I think it was in

888
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:03.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, there was a we had

889
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:07.880
<v Speaker 1>a green streak of light pass through and jo on

890
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the news I remember this. I have the clip somewhere

891
00:49:10.119 --> 00:49:16.039
<v Speaker 1>the the whoever it was, they brought someone, uh astronomer

892
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I believe, to kind of explain what was going on,

893
00:49:18.800 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 1>and she explained it as a once in a lifetime

894
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.280
<v Speaker 1>like one in five million, you know, occurrence you'd be

895
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 1>able to see. And I was like, really, because I

896
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 1>had a guy who saw the same thing like several

897
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.159
<v Speaker 1>years back, Like it's a once in a lifetime thing.

898
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, a million people around here then.

899
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, yeah, so that was kind of weird. And

900
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>then you can kind of into you can kind of

901
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>go into the the human element of some of the

902
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>weird stuff going on here too, Like there has always

903
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 1>been a you know, on occult presence here that's factual,

904
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and growing up you'd hear about that, and in the

905
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.000
<v Speaker 1>documentary I kind of touch base on that. Growing up,

906
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I had heard about this spot where my friends had

907
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>discovered a he decapitated deer in like some you know,

908
00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 1>strange other surroundings in that area. So we had gone

909
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:13.119
<v Speaker 1>back out there because you know, they wanted to show

910
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 1>me and stuff. And we go back out there and

911
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.079
<v Speaker 1>there was there was no deer, but there was actually

912
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:19.639
<v Speaker 1>a decapitated dog out there, which you're like, holy crap,

913
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.119
<v Speaker 1>that's really scary and a bunch of really crazy writings

914
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So, like I said, I had

915
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:28.360
<v Speaker 1>been researching and reaching out to people in different groups

916
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and this one person had reached out to me. Now,

917
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:35.679
<v Speaker 1>I had an encounter in twenty eleven right off of

918
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.960
<v Speaker 1>the Brushy Creek. It wasn't visual, it was just I'd

919
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:40.599
<v Speaker 1>like to say it was like a bluff charge. I

920
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>go into detail about that in some other videos I've done.

921
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 1>But that same year, twenty eleven was the worst drought

922
00:50:50.679 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 1>we've ever had in Texas. So the brushy areas of

923
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the Brushy Creek were accessible where they hadn't been before.

924
00:50:57.559 --> 00:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Caves were accessible where they hadn't been before. Walking along

925
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>the brush of creek, we were saying all these new

926
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 1>like oh, look at that, like caves all over the place.

927
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 1>And so that's when I had an encounter in there,

928
00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>and someone had reached out to me saying, hey, I

929
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 1>have the emails and stuff. I had to kind of

930
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:16.679
<v Speaker 1>get it out of them because he was saying that

931
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>his wife had seen some strange happenings and stuff, and

932
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I get it out of him saying his wife was

933
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 1>walking their kids along this trail that I've mentioned where

934
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.559
<v Speaker 1>they find the human burial grounds. There's been bigfoot sightings.

935
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 1>That's where the FBI had listed that, you know, the

936
00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 1>wanted poster or whatever. And he says that his wife

937
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:41.679
<v Speaker 1>had seen five clunk figures in a very dry area

938
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:45.039
<v Speaker 1>of the creek, burning a candle and doing some type

939
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of ritual out there. This is you know, this is

940
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.599
<v Speaker 1>what he says. I haven't written down, and they're like,

941
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>what the heck? And so he said, his wife seen that,

942
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 1>turned around and like they just left. That's crazy. So

943
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been wanting to get her to interview, but he's terrified.

944
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>She's you know, she would have to do obviously with

945
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:04.159
<v Speaker 1>some type of you know, covering her identity or something

946
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:07.559
<v Speaker 1>like that. But you're kind of wondering, like does that

947
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.360
<v Speaker 1>have anything to do with the big foot sightings in

948
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the area. You know, you you and the Rushy Creek documentary,

949
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I got a little bit of heat because people were like, oh,

950
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is not one big foot based and

951
00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:21.519
<v Speaker 1>I really wasn't going for a big foot based documentary.

952
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I was going for an area documentary, like you look

953
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.880
<v Speaker 1>at all this crazy stuff happening in the area. And yeah, no,

954
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:29.800
<v Speaker 1>it's just like again, like I said, you take the

955
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.679
<v Speaker 1>ancient stuff that was taking place kind of weird, you

956
00:52:32.760 --> 00:52:35.199
<v Speaker 1>take the bigfoot scenario, the hairy man road stuff that's

957
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:37.840
<v Speaker 1>been here since, you know, the rumor since the eighteen hundreds,

958
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:40.159
<v Speaker 1>and then you take the modern stuff with the FBI

959
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 1>surgeon out here, you really kind of wondering, like, what

960
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:44.159
<v Speaker 1>the heck is going on?

961
00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why would they be interested in something.

962
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Like that exactly? Just really leads to more more questions.

963
00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:55.920
<v Speaker 2>And then you had an interview with that guy who

964
00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:59.519
<v Speaker 2>was former military and former police officer who had the photos.

965
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:04.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes figure, now you know, I'm just gonna say it

966
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:08.920
<v Speaker 2>couldn't see much in the photo. Yeah, yeah, but the

967
00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>fact that he took the photo supports his story of

968
00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:16.119
<v Speaker 2>what he witnessed with another guy that he was with,

969
00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess, and they had ran across that woman and

970
00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:23.679
<v Speaker 2>that I mean, maybe that could have possibly been a

971
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>juvenile bigfoot, but it could have been something else. It's

972
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:29.880
<v Speaker 2>just a really weird figure on two legs, a weird

973
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:33.920
<v Speaker 2>incident and during broad daylight. So that's another thing in

974
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the notch of the belt of wodeness for that area.

975
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:38.840
<v Speaker 1>No, and I had to coax it o of him.

976
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:40.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, he didn't want to go on film or anything.

977
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 1>He was like, Oh, let me just call you and

978
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.159
<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it. You know. I'd I could go

979
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:46.440
<v Speaker 1>back to the location you showed me and stuff like that,

980
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and so luckily enough we did, and he went into

981
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:52.159
<v Speaker 1>a kind of greater detail and yeah, like you said,

982
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:58.800
<v Speaker 1>military guy, very highly educated, and he was very sincere.

983
00:53:59.039 --> 00:54:02.599
<v Speaker 1>And the story is of like you hear about that,

984
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you hear about that stuff on the Brushy Creek people

985
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:08.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of. There was an incident where I started doing

986
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:10.519
<v Speaker 1>the research where one woman had reached out to me

987
00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>saying she had seen a giant lemur in a tree.

988
00:54:13.760 --> 00:54:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what the heck off of the brush

989
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>off of the Brushy Creek trail. And I had reached

990
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:23.119
<v Speaker 1>out to a woman who was kind of the holder

991
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:26.239
<v Speaker 1>of the Hairyman Road story, like she would be at

992
00:54:26.280 --> 00:54:28.840
<v Speaker 1>library stop telling the story and stuff, and I had

993
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 1>been talking with her and I mentioned the levering thing

994
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, oh my god, I saw I saw

995
00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a lever myself in that same area. I was like,

996
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.280
<v Speaker 1>what where was saying they're seeing like a giant lever.

997
00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:42.119
<v Speaker 1>That's that's kind of just crazy. But again it's just

998
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:45.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of the weirdness of the area. It's you know,

999
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.800
<v Speaker 1>h even you go back to the to like the

1000
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>earlier settlers that were here, the Tonka would tribe, which

1001
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 1>was a really weird tribe in themselves. They did not

1002
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:02.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, a commiserator, befriend a lot of the tribes

1003
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>in the area. They would kind of stand office off

1004
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:06.199
<v Speaker 1>to themselves. Not only that, but they had a lot

1005
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 1>of strange practices. They were covering full body tattoos, which

1006
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:12.559
<v Speaker 1>to me that sounds more of a like an islander

1007
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 1>type thing, you know, Pacific islander thing, covered in full tattoos.

1008
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:21.400
<v Speaker 1>They would bury their dead standing up, which is kind

1009
00:55:21.400 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 1>of interesting, I thought. And they worship a giant wolf.

1010
00:55:25.599 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>Every year, they had a celebration for a giant wolf

1011
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.199
<v Speaker 1>that they would dance for. They would put on wolf

1012
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 1>pelts and they would dance around for like three or

1013
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:39.679
<v Speaker 1>four days celebrating this wolf deity. And they celebrated him

1014
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:42.440
<v Speaker 1>because the wolf pretty much symbolized their way of life.

1015
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.480
<v Speaker 1>They were hunters. They were not farmers, and they never

1016
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:48.239
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be farmers. They were hunters and they you know,

1017
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:52.400
<v Speaker 1>they would kill for their food, but unfortunately, with the

1018
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:54.840
<v Speaker 1>settlers coming in the area, they were forced out. And

1019
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe up to your neck of the woods there

1020
00:55:56.760 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 1>in Oklahoma it's where they resigned now unfortunately. But and

1021
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm always wondered with the tribe they or the people

1022
00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:09.079
<v Speaker 1>they found in twenty fourteen behind my house where those

1023
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:11.639
<v Speaker 1>people talk a wort. Were they older? You know, I

1024
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:14.679
<v Speaker 1>would have loved to just get some more information on

1025
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 1>who those people were for three people they felt there.

1026
00:56:18.000 --> 00:56:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Did you hear any stories out of the construction worker

1027
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:24.719
<v Speaker 2>guys that you videoed?

1028
00:56:25.519 --> 00:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, no. So I went out there kind

1029
00:56:28.719 --> 00:56:35.079
<v Speaker 1>of with a hidden camera, I should say, and here

1030
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you go, distreet camera, here you go. And so I'm

1031
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:39.519
<v Speaker 1>out there talking to some of the construction workers and

1032
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:41.639
<v Speaker 1>one guy I'm like, hey, you know, Harry matt Road,

1033
00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>have you seen anything or heard anything crazy? And he's

1034
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:47.119
<v Speaker 1>like no, He's like, well, actually you see that guy

1035
00:56:47.159 --> 00:56:49.000
<v Speaker 1>over there. And I was like yeah, and he'said, well,

1036
00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:51.639
<v Speaker 1>he just said he saw a giant shadow peaking out

1037
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:53.159
<v Speaker 1>from the trees. And I was like, oh, that's kind

1038
00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 1>of interesting. Let me go talk to that guy. And

1039
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:56.840
<v Speaker 1>so I went and talked to that guy and he

1040
00:56:56.920 --> 00:57:01.840
<v Speaker 1>actually pointed me in the direction of two caves. There

1041
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.199
<v Speaker 1>were three caves. He was able to show me where

1042
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 1>two of them were, and he said there was another

1043
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:11.599
<v Speaker 1>cave that he had seen deer coming out of. And

1044
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, that's gotta be a huge that's

1045
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.119
<v Speaker 1>gotta be a huge cave of deer coming out of here.

1046
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, that's that's insane. But when you're

1047
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>in the Brushy Creek area, especially the Harryman Road area,

1048
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.559
<v Speaker 1>and you're not on a trail or the road, it's

1049
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:29.239
<v Speaker 1>a very dangerous area. Like we talked about the sinkholes.

1050
00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:31.840
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a real thing. Man. You have to watch

1051
00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:35.199
<v Speaker 1>where you're stepping sinkholes. Not to mention, you know, all

1052
00:57:35.239 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the other critters. We have your rattlesnakes and all that

1053
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 1>type of stuff. So I was able to find two

1054
00:57:39.519 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of the caves, and one of them is just gigantic,

1055
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:46.039
<v Speaker 1>and I believe some of that's in the Brushy Creek documentary. Uh,

1056
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:49.280
<v Speaker 1>but they they look like tunnels. It's just like, really weird.

1057
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 1>They almost like tunnels. Who knows how deep they go.

1058
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 1>But now those are all grated up, they're caged up.

1059
00:57:56.920 --> 00:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>You can't even don't really go there anymore, which I

1060
00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:01.320
<v Speaker 1>thought was kind of and then after the documentary came out,

1061
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:03.320
<v Speaker 1>they started doing that. So I'm like, man, okay.

1062
00:58:04.039 --> 00:58:06.320
<v Speaker 2>It's just bugging me. I have to ask you about it,

1063
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:09.039
<v Speaker 2>and I hate to do. I know you want people

1064
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 2>to watch the documentary, and I I again encourage them

1065
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:16.400
<v Speaker 2>to watch the documentary, and I'm not trying to give

1066
00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:24.079
<v Speaker 2>anything away, but that one cave with the metal door, man, Yes,

1067
00:58:24.239 --> 00:58:26.000
<v Speaker 2>what is the freaking deal?

1068
00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, I can't explain that. I have I've talked

1069
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to different people about that. I really I have no

1070
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.440
<v Speaker 1>idea what that was for. You're talking about the giant

1071
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 1>team that had like a four foot face carved into it.

1072
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, clearly structure that somebody made

1073
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:51.159
<v Speaker 2>out of a cave with a giant armored door that

1074
00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:54.599
<v Speaker 2>only locks from the outside, which makes zero sense.

1075
00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean no, it's a giant Yeah. No, that

1076
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:03.480
<v Speaker 1>door is rated to withstand a nuclear blast. That's crazy.

1077
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.280
<v Speaker 1>How that got down there, how everything got constructed, I

1078
00:59:07.320 --> 00:59:10.159
<v Speaker 1>have no idea. And then it was buried up. They

1079
00:59:10.239 --> 00:59:12.920
<v Speaker 1>tried to cover it up, and the only way was

1080
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:16.280
<v Speaker 1>discovered was these construction workers were building a road nearby,

1081
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's in the documentary they find this cave and

1082
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:24.320
<v Speaker 1>they are scared to death. They are not they're not

1083
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:28.159
<v Speaker 1>going in there, and they're like, what the hell is this?

1084
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:33.280
<v Speaker 1>It's it's crazy. And that actually took me about two

1085
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:37.199
<v Speaker 1>weeks to find. I did not have the actual location

1086
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.840
<v Speaker 1>for it. I just knew the construction workers did not

1087
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.039
<v Speaker 1>want to go back there, and I was they you know,

1088
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:43.679
<v Speaker 1>taking back the orders. They were like, no, I'm no,

1089
00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:47.159
<v Speaker 1>nowhere were So they just told me about the general

1090
00:59:47.199 --> 00:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>area and so I went and with some GPS imaging,

1091
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I was able to find it and took about two

1092
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:54.679
<v Speaker 1>weeks to actually, you know, oh, here it is, because

1093
00:59:54.679 --> 00:59:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the brush was just insanely dense in that spot. So

1094
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>we find it and there's like, you know, stairs carved

1095
01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:04.840
<v Speaker 1>into it. There's obviously a gigantic face that is not

1096
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a human face in my opinion.

1097
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:11.079
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't know if it's a troll or what

1098
01:00:11.239 --> 01:00:11.920
<v Speaker 2>it is, but.

1099
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, just really strange features on it itself. Looks

1100
01:00:17.880 --> 01:00:23.079
<v Speaker 1>like it has possibly tattoo markings or maybe even hair

1101
01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 1>that could be what they're trying to similize in hair, honestly,

1102
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.920
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean, it's a gigantic steel door that

1103
01:00:31.079 --> 01:00:35.800
<v Speaker 1>only locks from the outside, and going in there into

1104
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.440
<v Speaker 1>this cavern was probably the dumbest thing I've ever done

1105
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:42.239
<v Speaker 1>because it was me and my friend David. We didn't

1106
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:44.400
<v Speaker 1>expect to find it. We thought it was another weekend

1107
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:46.559
<v Speaker 1>where we weren't going to find it. So we're out

1108
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:48.880
<v Speaker 1>there and we find it. We are very ill prepared.

1109
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.840
<v Speaker 1>We only have like one flashlight that sucked. Our phones

1110
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:56.039
<v Speaker 1>were actually broughten in the flashlight. So we're we go

1111
01:00:56.079 --> 01:00:57.800
<v Speaker 1>in there and we walk and we never found the

1112
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:00.280
<v Speaker 1>end of it. It was just a maze of you know,

1113
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:02.079
<v Speaker 1>you can go this way, you can go that way,

1114
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:07.199
<v Speaker 1>and it was it was again the only way in

1115
01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.519
<v Speaker 1>and out would be through this steel door that only

1116
01:01:10.559 --> 01:01:13.079
<v Speaker 1>locks from the outside, and it had that, and it

1117
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:15.719
<v Speaker 1>had breathing holes in it. So a lot of people

1118
01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:18.800
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh, that's just a bunker or that's where

1119
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:21.920
<v Speaker 1>people were stashing their moonshine and stuff. Well, why does

1120
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.800
<v Speaker 1>it have breathing holes? You know that doesn't why does

1121
01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.719
<v Speaker 1>it have a gigantic stone face If it's just you know,

1122
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:29.880
<v Speaker 1>hiding booze.

1123
01:01:29.639 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Or whatever, it doesn't matter what it was. I mean,

1124
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:36.360
<v Speaker 2>it does but it was used for nefarious reasons no

1125
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:37.079
<v Speaker 2>matter how you look.

1126
01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:43.559
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, absolutely it was used.

1127
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 2>Nothing good happening, no, nothing at all.

1128
01:01:46.199 --> 01:01:51.159
<v Speaker 1>No. Yeah, and no, people have speculated about different stuff.

1129
01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, like Doug Hidcheck from Monster Quest. He was like, oh,

1130
01:01:55.480 --> 01:01:57.360
<v Speaker 1>that's where they kept a big foot and I was like,

1131
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's it. You could argue that, but yeah, man,

1132
01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:03.760
<v Speaker 1>it's just you think about that and then you think

1133
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:08.519
<v Speaker 1>about who put it in there. Yeah, exactly. And then

1134
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:12.719
<v Speaker 1>in that Sperlunking document that I had mentioned where they

1135
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 1>said there's over three thousand uniscovered caves, they mentioned caves

1136
01:02:16.119 --> 01:02:18.880
<v Speaker 1>that were discovered and this cave is not on there.

1137
01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:21.519
<v Speaker 1>It is not on there. And they go in to

1138
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:23.800
<v Speaker 1>detail about some other caves. They oh, you know, like

1139
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:26.480
<v Speaker 1>the breathing cap instance. I haven't talked about the breathing cave.

1140
01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:29.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a cave that was called breathing Cave, and they

1141
01:02:29.800 --> 01:02:32.320
<v Speaker 1>called it breathing cave because you'd be able to put

1142
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:35.119
<v Speaker 1>a two by four in there and a gust of

1143
01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:37.440
<v Speaker 1>wind would shoot it out outside of the entrance of

1144
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:41.599
<v Speaker 1>this cave. And the university, Yeah, the university went out

1145
01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:44.719
<v Speaker 1>there to calculate, do all the calculations and stuff, and

1146
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:48.039
<v Speaker 1>they surmised that what was happening was almost like a

1147
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:51.920
<v Speaker 1>gun scenario. You have a very large chamber at the

1148
01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:56.519
<v Speaker 1>bottom that had airflow, forcing air into this smaller chamber

1149
01:02:56.599 --> 01:03:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that created this effect. And they were kind of puzzled

1150
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:05.960
<v Speaker 1>because their calculations the gigantic chamber underneath the smaller chamber

1151
01:03:06.320 --> 01:03:07.480
<v Speaker 1>would have had to be in the size of like

1152
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:11.239
<v Speaker 1>a stadium. So they're like, no, no, They're like, this

1153
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:13.079
<v Speaker 1>can't be right our numbers. We got to come back

1154
01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:16.679
<v Speaker 1>and test us again. They never did. They never did. So,

1155
01:03:16.760 --> 01:03:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean you kind of think about, like, holy crap,

1156
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:22.079
<v Speaker 1>a stadium sized underneath you know, the Brushy Creek area.

1157
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:25.079
<v Speaker 1>That's just that's wild to think about it. It's not

1158
01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:27.639
<v Speaker 1>it's not, you know, unfeasible when you think about all

1159
01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the caverns and caves, but could they connect somewhere underground?

1160
01:03:31.400 --> 01:03:34.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's that's an interesting theory.

1161
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Again, Texas is not the place you think of for

1162
01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:39.159
<v Speaker 2>caves exactly.

1163
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, you don't think about that. You think of,

1164
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:45.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, just deserts or I don't know what people

1165
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:49.039
<v Speaker 1>think about Texas, but yeah, you don't think about caves

1166
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:51.360
<v Speaker 1>and cavern systems, but I honestly think we have a

1167
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:54.280
<v Speaker 1>cavern system here and I discovered cabinet system here. It

1168
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.760
<v Speaker 1>would rival the Mammoth cave system in Kentucky. And I

1169
01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:01.039
<v Speaker 1>would really love for you know, some group or something. Okay,

1170
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you another example. I just thinking about this now.

1171
01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:06.920
<v Speaker 1>They have a Longhorn cave which is just south of us.

1172
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:14.039
<v Speaker 1>They recently found the giant cats sabretoothed cat remains like

1173
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:19.400
<v Speaker 1>four miles in this cave. Wow, in complete incomplete darkness.

1174
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:22.360
<v Speaker 1>They're like, how did the the cats get all the

1175
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 1>way back here? It's it's pitch black, but they are

1176
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:29.159
<v Speaker 1>going about four miles into the ground, which is insane.

1177
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:32.679
<v Speaker 1>Another incident is that we have we had a cave.

1178
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:35.119
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's chambered off now, but it was called

1179
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Airman's Cave here in Austin. And uh, there's a really

1180
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:42.639
<v Speaker 1>interesting article. I think only like a handful of people

1181
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.400
<v Speaker 1>have ever been to the end of this cave. And

1182
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a really cool article article about these kids that

1183
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 1>went in there and it said they took it took

1184
01:04:51.000 --> 01:04:53.760
<v Speaker 1>him about twelve hours to get to the end of

1185
01:04:53.800 --> 01:04:58.159
<v Speaker 1>the cave from when they started what and this involved

1186
01:04:58.239 --> 01:05:01.280
<v Speaker 1>crawling on their hands and knees that in some points

1187
01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.119
<v Speaker 1>it was very large were they able to walk. And

1188
01:05:04.159 --> 01:05:05.880
<v Speaker 1>by the time they got to the end of this cave,

1189
01:05:05.960 --> 01:05:08.880
<v Speaker 1>they said that they were exhausted. It was already nine

1190
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:13.400
<v Speaker 1>outside and they were just super exhausted. But other people

1191
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.519
<v Speaker 1>have I think there's a couple of people who have

1192
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:17.360
<v Speaker 1>gone to the end of this cave and described the

1193
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 1>same thing. This guy describes two large crystals popping out

1194
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.559
<v Speaker 1>of the sides of these caves, giant crystals like the

1195
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:31.159
<v Speaker 1>ones you've seen on like the Superman movies, popping out

1196
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:32.760
<v Speaker 1>of this cave. And we were was kind of like,

1197
01:05:32.800 --> 01:05:35.079
<v Speaker 1>what the hell is that doing there? There's no sense,

1198
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:42.920
<v Speaker 1>But again, this is just another weird instance of a

1199
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Central Texas man.

1200
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:47.159
<v Speaker 2>What is going on?

1201
01:05:48.079 --> 01:05:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you one more weird thing that happened last

1202
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:54.320
<v Speaker 1>was in twenty twenty three, there was an unidentified flying

1203
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:57.079
<v Speaker 1>object flying over the Central Texas area. I have the

1204
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:01.360
<v Speaker 1>document from NORAD saying they scrambled to jets from Colorado

1205
01:06:01.400 --> 01:06:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to investigate what this thing was. And I believe this

1206
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:08.559
<v Speaker 1>said it was like, you know, the typical weather balloon

1207
01:06:08.559 --> 01:06:11.079
<v Speaker 1>thing or whatever. It's like, oh, you're strambling jets from

1208
01:06:11.119 --> 01:06:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Colorado from weather balloons. Yeah yeah, but over the Brushing

1209
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:21.199
<v Speaker 1>Creek again. So it's just, you know, I honestly, I

1210
01:06:21.199 --> 01:06:22.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's to think at this point. I'm just

1211
01:06:22.840 --> 01:06:25.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to gather everything and say, hey, look at this,

1212
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Look at all this weird stuff. You know, does it connect?

1213
01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:33.719
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, honestly, but it's just you can't

1214
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 1>avoid you can't avoid the weird. You can almost talk

1215
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:38.760
<v Speaker 1>to anybody that's been here for over, you know, ten

1216
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:41.920
<v Speaker 1>years and something, and they'll they'll tell you something strange

1217
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:44.760
<v Speaker 1>that's happened to them on one of the trails, or

1218
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:47.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're out lake fishing or you know whatever.

1219
01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 1>You'll hear about these things when you talked to the community.

1220
01:06:50.440 --> 01:06:53.039
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't realize how vivid it was until I

1221
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:57.199
<v Speaker 1>started talking to people. It's like my best friend growing up,

1222
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:01.039
<v Speaker 1>I had not told him about what had happened to me,

1223
01:07:02.119 --> 01:07:05.159
<v Speaker 1>but he described his encounter and my Airyman Road documentary,

1224
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's exactly what happened to me. He was rushed

1225
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:14.239
<v Speaker 1>by something aggressive that chased off of the creek. And

1226
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:17.320
<v Speaker 1>then again people were just reaching out to me saying, Hey,

1227
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I experienced the exact same thing. We were fishing up

1228
01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:23.119
<v Speaker 1>the creek. Something came splashing towards us. We were scared.

1229
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 1>We left. The woman I told you about, who was

1230
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:27.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the holder of a harry Man Road story,

1231
01:07:27.760 --> 01:07:29.880
<v Speaker 1>she told me about her son was in a boy

1232
01:07:29.880 --> 01:07:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Scotch troop that was camping along there along the Brushy Creek.

1233
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:36.000
<v Speaker 1>These kids are like fifteen sixteen year old. There's like

1234
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:39.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty of them, maybe not twenty ten or fifteen, and

1235
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:43.039
<v Speaker 1>they were so scared they left the Brushy Creek because

1236
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:48.000
<v Speaker 1>something was doing this mock you know, rush rushing them

1237
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:51.559
<v Speaker 1>or you know, bluff charge I guess. So it's so

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<v Speaker 1>weird that so many people that have never met are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the same exact thing. Not only that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I had mentioned the construction worker who said he had

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01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:03.320
<v Speaker 1>seen something a shadow peak up behind the tree. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>So my friend that I'm telling you about his girlfriend

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01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:09.480
<v Speaker 1>said the exact same thing in the same area off

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01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.639
<v Speaker 1>of harry Man Road. She said that she had seen

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01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:14.400
<v Speaker 1>these little, these shadow people poking their heads out from

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01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:17.560
<v Speaker 1>these trees. Wow, it's like what they've never met. This

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01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:20.520
<v Speaker 1>is like twenty years apart. What the hell's going on here?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're telling the same story. And again, talking

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<v Speaker 1>with those construction workers, I asked, mos Hey, you know,

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01:08:29.199 --> 01:08:31.840
<v Speaker 1>have you ever heard of you know, harry Man Road

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01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:33.479
<v Speaker 1>or you know how the story got here? And he said,

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01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:34.880
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, someone saw a big put out of here

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01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:37.239
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And then he pursueds to tell me that

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01:08:37.880 --> 01:08:41.239
<v Speaker 1>multiple people have been killed by trees out there. Hit

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01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.439
<v Speaker 1>by trees. I'm like, hit by trees? What? It makes

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01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:45.000
<v Speaker 1>no sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there might be like some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>curse on the area.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, Honestly, I've heard a little bit

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01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was that one older Native lady that

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01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:04.520
<v Speaker 2>you interviewed about her. Oh yeah, and it went into

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01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 2>the paranormal. It was definitely different. And uh, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>just so many similarities between the stuff you've uncovered and

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<v Speaker 2>talked about and the stories you're relaying to like some

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<v Speaker 2>places here in Oklahoma, especially some of the native communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean we kind of shared the same native communities. Honestly,

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01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:31.760
<v Speaker 1>they were here and they went up there, and you

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01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:35.640
<v Speaker 1>know that's that's a real thing. It happened. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard the curse theory before. I've heard people say like, oh,

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01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:42.199
<v Speaker 1>it's cursed because of this and that, and you know

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01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:47.239
<v Speaker 1>there was a if someone killed something they shouldn't have

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01:09:47.399 --> 01:09:49.239
<v Speaker 1>and all this other stuff, and it's like, man, what

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01:09:50.039 --> 01:09:52.600
<v Speaker 1>there's really again we're speculating, but it's just kind of

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01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:56.039
<v Speaker 1>it's just all really weird that it's happening here in

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01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 1>this area that again, you really don't hear anything about.

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01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't hear about this stuff you hear about, you know,

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01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like you said, some place in Oklahoma you hear about

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01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:07.880
<v Speaker 1>some Skinwalker ranch stuff you hear about, like the the

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<v Speaker 1>Hani Valley in Canada. But this area, the Brushing Creek,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it it can rival or it's it's as

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01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.159
<v Speaker 1>much as going on here, then what's going on there?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, again, the Herryman Road story dates back to

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01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen hundreds. People were people seeing something up until then.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's just it's just wild man. And you know,

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01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:31.079
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the no rad scrambling, the UFO, the

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01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:35.039
<v Speaker 1>freaking the astronomer saying, oh we have these green lights

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01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:37.000
<v Speaker 1>are like one a million, one in a million, and

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01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I got people who said they've seen them multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's just really weird and fascinating and I'm doing

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<v Speaker 1>my best just to kind of document what is taking

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01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:49.159
<v Speaker 1>place in the Brushian Creek area. Man. And now we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even talked about the bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know, and we haven't even talked about

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01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:57.680
<v Speaker 2>the bodies. But yeah, yeah, people can check that out

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<v Speaker 2>on your YouTube channel of your stuff. Man, how can

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<v Speaker 2>they get ahold of you and all that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can check me out on YouTube. Media Palace,

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<v Speaker 1>my website Mediapalace dot ned. If you want to email me,

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01:11:10.279 --> 01:11:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it's ericmedia Palace at gmail dot com. If you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the central Texas area, I'd really like to hear from

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01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:18.600
<v Speaker 1>me if you have any interesting insight into what we're

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01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:20.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about. I would if you have that video, hey, look,

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01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:24.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's take it in twenty seventeen. But yeah, no,

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01:11:24.600 --> 01:11:26.840
<v Speaker 1>if you feel free to get a hold of me,

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01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:30.960
<v Speaker 1>and I'm working on the expedition Brushy Creek where you

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<v Speaker 1>saw the excerpt where we interviewed that native woman, and

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<v Speaker 1>the expedition Brusher Creek is going to have the footage

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01:11:37.199 --> 01:11:40.840
<v Speaker 1>where the pebbles were being thrown. So that should be

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01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:43.760
<v Speaker 1>coming out here probably within the week. Awesome, So please

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01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:44.359
<v Speaker 1>check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, looking forward to it. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the documentary Beast of Brushy Creek is on streaming

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01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:53.199
<v Speaker 1>platforms Amazon two be It's on my YouTube channel. I

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<v Speaker 1>also have the Legend of Harryman road dates on a

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01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:58.479
<v Speaker 1>couple of platforms. It's on my YouTube channels as well,

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01:11:58.520 --> 01:11:59.439
<v Speaker 1>so please check.

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<v Speaker 2>It out and I will post a link in the

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01:12:03.399 --> 01:12:07.359
<v Speaker 2>description below whenever this episode comes out, So if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 2>scroll down check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, thank you please, Eric.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining me, Man, I've thoroughly enjoyed it and

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to some off air conversations in the future.

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01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:23.239
<v Speaker 1>Man, definitely, I look forward with Matt. I appreciate you

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01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:23.960
<v Speaker 1>inviting me on Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you absolutely. And if you've had your own encounter

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01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:31.239
<v Speaker 2>with the Hairy Man or a poulter Geist or a UFO,

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01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:35.000
<v Speaker 2>send me NeiMa Bigfoot Crossroads at gmail dot com. Check

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01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.479
<v Speaker 2>out the website Bigfootcrossroads dot com. You can find links

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01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:42.279
<v Speaker 2>to all the past episodes, social media, merchandise, everything you

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01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:45.439
<v Speaker 2>need all in one place. And until next time, remember

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<v Speaker 2>there's something in the woods.
