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<v Speaker 1>It is The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful humpdaye on Wednesday. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>you could email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we're about to talk about a hostage

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<v Speaker 1>situation this hour. We're also going to get to Brandon Darby.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Cartel News Mexico's handing over twenty seven of Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>cartel guys. Darby's gonna come about about a half hour

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<v Speaker 1>from now talk to us about that. But let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the hostage situation that's going on in America. And

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<v Speaker 1>that hostage situation is well Trump talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They really are there.

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<v Speaker 1>They stuck, They don't know what to do. They have

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<v Speaker 1>probably more I would say more than half are sane,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are led by insane people. It's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat Party. They're stuck. I am curious about this.

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<v Speaker 1>And the thing is, I'm about to talk about something

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know about, and neither do you. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to talk about something nobody knows about. How many

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<v Speaker 1>American Democrats know they're in the midst of insanity, want

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<v Speaker 1>the insanity to stop, but don't feel comfortable speaking out

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<v Speaker 1>because this and they're not comfortable speaking out. It's a cult,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a religion, it's culled. Cult members who speak out

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<v Speaker 1>against the cult leader get treated horribly. I know people

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<v Speaker 1>think I get a lot of hate mail and death threats,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course that's true. You know, the communists hate me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who gets treated way worse than I do,

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<v Speaker 1>way worse. I've openly declared myself to be the mortal

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<v Speaker 1>enemy of communists. I am an anti communist, that is

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<v Speaker 1>who I am. I believe in fighting and destroying communism

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<v Speaker 1>until the day I die. If you are a Communist

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<v Speaker 1>listening to my show, I despise you as much as

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<v Speaker 1>you despise me, and I'm going to try to destroy

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<v Speaker 1>your sick, demonic worldview. Now I've openly declared that former

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats get treated way worse than I do, way worse.

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<v Speaker 1>A Democrat who breaks away from the cult, who chooses

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<v Speaker 1>to leave the religion, isn't just an enemy, He's a trader.

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<v Speaker 1>And Democrats know this. Democrat politicians and normy democrats know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's set aside the politicians, because I have lived in

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat world, a few different times in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest one is when I lived in Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>For a year, because everybody there's a freaking Democrat, which

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get to in a couple minutes. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>there is a Democrat. So I would get invited out

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<v Speaker 1>with friends. I had a few friends there, ab and

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<v Speaker 1>I would get invited out on a Friday, era a Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey we're having some chicken wings and watching the game

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Well, at these parties, at these meetups,

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<v Speaker 1>there were mostly Democrats there. Oftentimes there was Democrats there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can tell, you can tell there is a fear,

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<v Speaker 1>a palpable fear they have at speaking against the cult

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<v Speaker 1>in front of their friends. It is a palpable fear

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<v Speaker 1>for them. They don't want to be piled on, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be torn apart. They frankly feel a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit traitorous and dirty speaking out against the club,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking out against the religion, So they don't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>How many of them are there? If you live in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. For instance, which I know you don't, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you live in Washington, d C. Or you visit Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. My son visited with his friends last year

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<v Speaker 1>at the Lincoln Memorials, some violent meth head started screaming

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<v Speaker 1>violent threats at them. Now, granted, because my son's an

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<v Speaker 1>idiot and all of his friends are too, they started

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<v Speaker 1>laughing and thought it was hilarious. But you understand what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. How many Democrats live in DC and they're

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<v Speaker 1>afraid afraid of physical violence. As we've talked about before,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a different kind of afraid, it really is. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different kind of fear. When you are afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of being physically hurt yourself personally, that's a different kind

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<v Speaker 1>of fear. How many Democrats are scared to walk to

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<v Speaker 1>the office, walk to the car, don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>out after dark, lots and lots of them. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, their religion, their religion has a devil

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<v Speaker 1>and his name is Donald Trump. How many Democrats in

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<v Speaker 1>that city want the big, evil devil to come in

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<v Speaker 1>and take the scum off the streets. They just don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel comfortable saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I will just go back to the fact that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are cheering this on privately are not

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<v Speaker 2>like right wing Republicans, are not maga people. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of our friends are in the media, and also Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>that worked on Joe Biden's campaign, that worked on other campaigns.

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<v Speaker 2>They're saying, Yeah, I'd like to feel safe walking around

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<v Speaker 2>this city. If the federal government can be a positive

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<v Speaker 2>partner in keeping the streets safe while again forming a

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<v Speaker 2>partnership with the DC police and not taking over, then

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<v Speaker 2>I at least the people I've spoken with that live

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<v Speaker 2>in DC day in, day out see this as a

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<v Speaker 2>positive step.

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<v Speaker 1>See it as a positive step. Now that's Joe Scarborough.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the stuff his friends are texting him. Hey, this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of cool. Hey I hate Trump. I hate Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll throw in the qualifier, I really hate Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate Trump, but sure would be nice to not

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<v Speaker 1>get stabbed.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Juxtapose that versus the DC Attorney General.

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<v Speaker 4>It is a city and a community need to be

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<v Speaker 4>much more focused on prevention and surrounding young people and

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<v Speaker 4>their families with resources. If we want to be safer

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<v Speaker 4>in the long run, we cannot prosecute and arrest our

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you have to talk when you're a Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>elected leader, otherwise you get torn to shreds. How many

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<v Speaker 1>normy Democrats or at least not totally insane. Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>living like that in not just DC, various parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the country. How many are tired of the expense, tired

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<v Speaker 1>of the taxes, tired of the crime, tired of the illegals,

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<v Speaker 1>tired of the bilingual schools, tired of all the endless

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<v Speaker 1>democrat misery that Democrats have brought onto this country. But

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<v Speaker 1>they just don't have the courage to break away from

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<v Speaker 3>And that is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Very common theme in communist countries throughout history. When an

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<v Speaker 1>evil communist regime takes over. It's not that all of

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<v Speaker 1>them are masterminds and demons and tearing people apart. So

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<v Speaker 1>many people putting on that Soviet uniform are disgusted by

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<v Speaker 1>the Communist party, but they're afraid. How many Democrats listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the sound of my voice right now are a

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<v Speaker 1>little uncomfortable because it's hitting home, isn't it. Maybe you're

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<v Speaker 1>squirming in your chair. Maybe that's you. I don't expect you,

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<v Speaker 1>based on my voice, to go to that cocktail party

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<v Speaker 1>this Friday and say to your friends, I mean, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it is good to keep murderers in jail. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>expect you to say that, But you could maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>your courage would be contagious, as courage often is. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>you can hate me all you want, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>roundabout way, I'm trying to save your party. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a chance the Democrat Party does a Thelma in Louise

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<v Speaker 1>and drives right off the cliff. If they don't stop,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't brand yourself as the pro murder party, the

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<v Speaker 1>pro crime party. You can't say this stuff and keep

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<v Speaker 1>getting elected. You're gonna end up losing. Places like New York.

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<v Speaker 4>As a city and a community need to be much

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<v Speaker 4>the long run, we cannot prosecute and arrest our way

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<v Speaker 4>out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You've already seen see Democrats won't see these signs. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the outside looking in, so I can see

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<v Speaker 1>these signs. I know you can see these signs. You've

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<v Speaker 1>already seen little burps, little little bits of pushback with

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<v Speaker 1>these various recalls, these various little little election things, even

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. Look, we love to make fun of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Dufis who's the current mate.

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<v Speaker 5>I would just say it like this that the president

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<v Speaker 5>has always been intimidated by the intellectual prowess of black men,

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<v Speaker 5>and so of course he would speak in those petite,

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<v Speaker 5>in puerile terms.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I know we make fun of Chicago, but they

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<v Speaker 1>did get rid of their last mayor because people were

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<v Speaker 1>tired of it. I realized they replaced Lori Lightfoot with

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<v Speaker 1>an even bigger moron. I understand that, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>these little signs that people were sick of it. People

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<v Speaker 1>are sick of it, and yet the leadership of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Party is trapped. Name me one national Democrat talking

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<v Speaker 1>about cracking down on crime. Oh, it is the Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Show on a wonderful Wednesday with me Bronco. What Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Jesse Kelly show. And look it's been light tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>He's as heavy as ten boxers that you might be moving.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't make sense with what I just said, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Sometimes I don't make sense. Let's do

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<v Speaker 1>some emails. I said I was going to get to twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many I've gotten to so far,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been a lot, now a lot, Chris Jesse.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a cool story. In two thousand, my step grandfather

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<v Speaker 1>was the oldest living son of a Civil War vet.

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<v Speaker 1>He was seventy nine at the time that Southern Living

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<v Speaker 1>magazine did an interview with him. That's so cool. His

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<v Speaker 1>dad was seventy eight when Grandpa was born. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a Confederate veteran captured during the battle in eighteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 1>thrown in a Union pow camp in Chicago. I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the camp. It was just as terrible

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<v Speaker 1>as Andersonville, swampy and disease ridden. He talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>only food they got was a boiled broth. Once a day,

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<v Speaker 1>they caught rats and would cook them to eat. That's

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<v Speaker 1>freaking cool anyway, He said they were almost dead by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the war. My step grandpa was a

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<v Speaker 1>very unique man. In his late seventies, he had three

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<v Speaker 1>different younger girlfriends that were in their forties and fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a date for every meal. He would joke

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<v Speaker 1>about hiring and firing them. His name was Wiley Denny.

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<v Speaker 1>I always enjoyed listening to the stories of these elderly men.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandpa's uncles and dad were all veterans from World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two, Korea, and Vietnam. They have all passed away.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>These men were treasures and they were greatly missed. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to read that one because it's cool, and two

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get sappy, but it is sad

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<v Speaker 1>that we're losing our old timers. And I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>how life goes, and they would tell you that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, But there aren't many World War Two

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<v Speaker 1>veterans left and right on their heels. The Korean War

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<v Speaker 1>guys are fading fast green woar guys. And I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe I'm going to say this, but we're probably what

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years away from losing our Vietnam guys. Sucks, I guns,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it goes. Jesse, My wife and I just

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<v Speaker 1>returned from our honeymoon in Portugal. That's sweet. While we

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<v Speaker 1>were there, we went on a private tour with a

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<v Speaker 1>man from Dubai. When he learned that my wife is

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<v Speaker 1>originally from Mexico, he heard Mexico was the gateway to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. Oh my gosh. I tried to play

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<v Speaker 1>it off and told him we didn't know about all

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<v Speaker 1>that because we did things the right way. My wife

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<v Speaker 1>was here on a tourist visa when we met. She

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<v Speaker 1>probably looked him right in the eyes and said Fell

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<v Speaker 1>spent years getting her through the citizens process. He wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>drop the subject, though, and kept asking about the details

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<v Speaker 1>of the process. He even said he was working with

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wants in, and we're already here. It is cool, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about that. Nobody's trying to get into some

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<v Speaker 1>Trump versus Joe Biden. Do you think that dude in

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<v Speaker 1>it's not worth the risk. It's not worth it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Why even bother but under Joe Biden, when the Communists

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<v Speaker 1>amazing to me. Jesse, what's your insider info regarding the

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<v Speaker 1>mar Lago FBI raid. Was it so frantic because the

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll do this next. We'll talk about them being

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<v Speaker 1>what is it that is making them so afraid. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the loss of control. The loss of control, and I

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<v Speaker 1>It probably never coming back and they're scared to death.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that next. It is the Jesse Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Show on a fantastic Wednesday, I'll hope day, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>always fantastic. When Brandon Darby of the Bright Cartel Chronicles,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Big Cheese editor over there joins us to educate

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<v Speaker 1>us on several things. Okay, Brandon, they're handing over twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six cartel leaders Mexico. Is what is this?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I supposed to call you Jesse or Bronco?

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<v Speaker 1>Bronco. Please let's stick with Bronco.

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<v Speaker 3>Please, I'll tell you Bronco, Jesse, Bronco. Thanks. Now when

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<v Speaker 3>you did that. There's a guy on Twitter named gay Patriot,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't cc at gay Patriot just because gay's

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<v Speaker 1>That's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, that's wrong. Okay to this seriousness, here's what

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<v Speaker 3>just happened. Okay, this is the second time that Mexico,

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<v Speaker 3>the Mexican government has handed over these big dogs in

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<v Speaker 3>the in various cartels.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time they handed over big dogs and a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of cartels and the Sinaloa cartel. But keep in

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<v Speaker 3>mind that the main cartel, this guy on Mincho, it's

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<v Speaker 3>Cartel Jalisco, right, CJ, and that's the name of them.

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<v Speaker 3>They their current secretary of Defense has very close relationships

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<v Speaker 3>with Mincho, right, They're very close. He is the one

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<v Speaker 3>that is controlling the black markets of Mexico. He is

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<v Speaker 3>the that is the dominant cartel in Mexico, Cartel Jalisco. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So they hand over all of these people. The first

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<v Speaker 3>time Trump starts to threaten the government with tariff, they

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<v Speaker 3>hand over a bunch of people, one of which one

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<v Speaker 3>of whom had had you know, brutally killed a DEE

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<v Speaker 3>agent nam Kiki Camarina in the eighties. It took that

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<v Speaker 3>long for them to give us that guy, right. They

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<v Speaker 3>literally let this guy like stay in Mexico. They let

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<v Speaker 3>him out of prison. He started running a cartel again,

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<v Speaker 3>and they put him back in prison of sorts. But

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<v Speaker 3>he had this wonderful life, and they finally handed them

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<v Speaker 3>over after three decades, right because of Trump. Otherwise that

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<v Speaker 3>family of that DEE agent never would have had justice

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<v Speaker 3>if it weren't for what Trump did and threatening Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>So they hand over these people. They're like, see, we're

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<v Speaker 3>helping you and we're going to cooperate with you. But

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<v Speaker 3>what they did was they only cooperated. Really, any big

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<v Speaker 3>cooperation was against all of Minho and Cartel Jalisco's enemies.

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<v Speaker 3>So really what they did was they had the USA

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<v Speaker 3>of his enemies. So he kept taking over more and

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<v Speaker 3>more in Mexico. So the Trump administration wises up and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to do this to us. So then

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<v Speaker 3>they say we're going to hit you with more tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to authorize US military action in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>And all of a sudden, Mexico's government says, oh, here

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<v Speaker 3>are these twenty six more top Sinaloa and Jalisco cartel operators.

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<v Speaker 3>But all the while, they will not give us and

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<v Speaker 3>they will not go after the leader of Cartel Jalisco,

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<v Speaker 3>who is paying many people in the leadership of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see how this works? You see this game

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<v Speaker 3>that's being played. Awesome that they handed these people over,

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<v Speaker 3>Not awesome that they won't go after al Mincho. We

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<v Speaker 3>can find Mincho, we I promise you. The US government

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<v Speaker 3>has plenty of information as to where he is, but

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<v Speaker 3>Mexico's protecting him anytime. You know, anytime that there's a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to get him. Somebody tips him off the day before,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the Mexican government, and he because we

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<v Speaker 3>have to cooperate with the cartel connected government of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what this is about. This is them saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>try to start doing unilateral military action in our country

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<v Speaker 3>because if you do, there's really not a darn thing

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<v Speaker 3>we can do about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So again we're speaking with Brandon Darby Bright brought.

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<v Speaker 1>This is exactly why I wanted to have him on

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<v Speaker 1>because I was curious. I see the headline and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious, Brandon, before we get through other parts of

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<v Speaker 1>what you just said, why not give this guy up.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've said before he is friends, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>personal friends with I guess their secretary of defense or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. But is it fear? Is it friendship?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just simple brand money?

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<v Speaker 3>Money? It's money. Everything is for sale in Mexico, So

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<v Speaker 3>that is really good. If you're a bad guy and

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<v Speaker 3>you can buy, you can buy your way out of justice.

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<v Speaker 3>But if somebody comes in with a larger economic incentive,

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<v Speaker 3>then they can buy justice for you and get you incarcerated.

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<v Speaker 3>To see how this works, and everything is for sale

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<v Speaker 3>in Mexico. It's the most complicated thing you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you try to do any business dealing in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how it goes down. You start doing it,

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like it's going to work, and then at

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<v Speaker 3>the last minute they go, well, there's this one guy

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he can stop it. And so you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>no problem. And then it moves a little further. And

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<v Speaker 3>then just on the last day, you think you're closing

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<v Speaker 3>the deal and they go, well, there's this this guy

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<v Speaker 3>really doesn't want this to go through. But there's this

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<v Speaker 3>other guy who's this advisor, and he says that if

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and you're like, oh my gosh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>It's hop business works in Mexico. It's how it works

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<v Speaker 3>highest levels as well. So again they're still protecting elmenshow

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<v Speaker 3>they're still protecting Cartel Jalisco. They're still acting like they're

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<v Speaker 3>helping us fight cartels while they for the most part

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<v Speaker 3>only go after the enemies of Delmento. So we're clearing

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<v Speaker 3>his path, right, and the Trump administration is starting to

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<v Speaker 3>have enough of it, and they're like, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>let's have the ante. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>authorize unilateral military action, and we're going to hit you

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<v Speaker 3>with more tariffs because you're not you're not doing enough.

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<v Speaker 3>So they say, okay, here's a little more. And then

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<v Speaker 3>And they're going to draw this out to where Trump

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<v Speaker 3>is no longer in office, whoever's in their next does

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<v Speaker 3>not care about this issue. They're just going to say

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<v Speaker 3>they care about it like Democrats and Republicans have for decades, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're not. That's what they're they're waiting it out.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he's doing. You're very intelligent, very smart, knows

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<v Speaker 3>what he's doing and and he is is paying everyone

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<v Speaker 3>and wait, waiting this out, waiting this administration out. However,

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<v Speaker 3>it is also good that we are getting these people.

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<v Speaker 3>But mind you, not, none of these people, not the

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<v Speaker 3>first trench and not this trench, none of these cartel

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<v Speaker 3>operators and leaders would would be facing us justice for

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<v Speaker 3>what they've done to our communities if it were not

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<v Speaker 3>for Trump threatening tariffs and threatening military action. And do

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<v Speaker 3>not forget that fact. Do not let that slip off

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<v Speaker 1>Listening speaking with Brandon Darby Breitbart, I have so many

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<v Speaker 1>more questions now based off of these other things. So

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<v Speaker 1>we just asked this really briefly, Brandon, before I go

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<v Speaker 1>to break and then attempt to strangle you to keep

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<v Speaker 1>you here for one more segment this El Men show. Guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you've mentioned, you've mentioned Benho several times. What's this background?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you come from?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, so Partel Jalisco was part of the Sinaloa Federation.

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<v Speaker 3>I've talked about this on the show before. Not this

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<v Speaker 3>particulars this, but the concept the Sinaloa cartell is really

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<v Speaker 3>a federation, right, It's really a bunch of different criminal

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<v Speaker 3>groups who are all you know, they agree to be

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<v Speaker 3>under the banner of the Sinaloa Cartel, okay, But Mincho

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<v Speaker 3>decided he was a leader in in Jalisco. He decided

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<v Speaker 3>and that started a war between Cartel Jalisco now and

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the Sinaloa Federation. You know, the US government,

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<v Speaker 3>with the help of the Mexican government, has taken out

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<v Speaker 3>several of the Sinaloa leadership. So now the the Sinaloa Cartel,

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<v Speaker 3>the Sinaloa Federation is a bunch of groups fighting each

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<v Speaker 3>other right with and they have very limited federal power

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<v Speaker 3>any longer. Some of them still have a lot of power,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's it's going to be waning as years go by,

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<v Speaker 3>right for sure, because we've we've done the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>that we did to the Golf Cartel, which is we

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<v Speaker 3>decapitated them so many times that now they're they're really

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of glorified gang bangers operating under the the

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the banner of the Golf cartel. But really

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<v Speaker 3>there's just a bunch of you know, there's probably ten

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<v Speaker 3>different leaders of the Golf cartel. Right, you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>different factions that oftentimes are fighting each other. So and

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<v Speaker 3>it's much easier to deal with that than it is

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with an El Mincho or a Sinaloa cartel

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<v Speaker 3>when it was in its heyday, because they control, they

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<v Speaker 3>have access to control in the federal government. Right, so

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<v Speaker 3>when you deal with the Golf cartel, now they have

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<v Speaker 3>regional they might have some municipal employees or workers, they

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<v Speaker 3>have some journalists, they have some people in the state government,

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<v Speaker 3>but not as many, not the governor any longer. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have the kind of power, and that's because

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<v Speaker 3>of the decapitation approach, and that's what's happening with the Sinaloa.

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<v Speaker 3>But so Mincho broke away and said, hey, my criminal

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<v Speaker 3>group because is now Cartajalisco and it's no longer under

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<v Speaker 3>your leadership, and from now on I make all the money,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to be so brutal that that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all of you are going to be afraid to mess

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<v Speaker 3>with me. And that's kind of what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He is, he is sorry, Here is Brandon Darby. Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have just time for a couple more questions?

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<v Speaker 1>After the break, I'd love to have a cup of coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm chilling, I'm I'm all about it. Perfect. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Wednesday. Remember you

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<v Speaker 1>can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>We are back with Brandon Darby of the great Bart

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<v Speaker 1>Bright Bart Cartel Chronicles. Brandon, Okay, you mentioned the Sinaloa

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<v Speaker 1>Federation and how we continue to take out the heads

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<v Speaker 1>of this. How significant was the taking out of El

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<v Speaker 1>Choppo to the disintegration, the slow disintegration of the Sineloa Federation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. L Chop Was he some unbelievable seminal

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<v Speaker 1>figure or was he just another guy?

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<v Speaker 3>He was an unbelievable seminal figure. He it's a big deal,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I would say at this point it you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a big deal to do. But again we have

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<v Speaker 3>to understand the context. The context is another guy sprung up,

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<v Speaker 3>another guy started paying more people than politicking better. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the Mexican government was willing to go after their

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<v Speaker 3>former boy because everything is for sale, right, and and

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<v Speaker 3>he did it. He did the job better, He did

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<v Speaker 3>the politicking and the bribing better, and so then the

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<v Speaker 3>Mexican government was willing to go after him. Now we're

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<v Speaker 3>at a point where there we can't pay two people

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<v Speaker 3>off of each other because there's no one as powerful

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<v Speaker 3>as Omento any longer, right, so there's no one that powerful,

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<v Speaker 3>So so we can't take that approach. So, yes, that

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<v Speaker 3>was a lovely approach at the time under the specific circumstances.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting El Chapo here was a big deal. Getting his

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<v Speaker 3>son here was a big deal. Getting you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these big deals that are happening, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're still protecting the biggest archel figure in Mexico and

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<v Speaker 3>El Chopo. Make no mistake, Mexico would not have gone

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<v Speaker 3>after El Chapo and helped us go after Il Chapo

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<v Speaker 3>were they not doing the bidding of El Chapo's rival.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it. So that's where we are, That's what we're

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with. We're dealing with a fragile nation that's literally

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<v Speaker 3>listed as a fragile nation, not a failed nation, but

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<v Speaker 3>a fragile state. Right that is what Mexico is, a

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<v Speaker 3>fragile Marco state. And that is there are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of good people in Mexico, and there are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of good people in Mexico's leadership are trying to be

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<v Speaker 3>in Mexico's leadership, in Mexico's law enforcement community, but make

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<v Speaker 3>no mistakes, there are a lot more who are not

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<v Speaker 3>good when it comes to the leadership of that country

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<v Speaker 3>because some of them are in those situations so they

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<v Speaker 3>can't make money. Some of them are in those situations

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<v Speaker 3>to make a change, and then they're told, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you want plato oplomo, like you want silver or lead.

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<v Speaker 3>We can either make you rich or we can kill

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<v Speaker 3>you and all of your children and your grandparents and

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<v Speaker 3>your wife. And so they choose to go the dirty

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<v Speaker 3>route because they don't have an FBI to call or

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<v Speaker 3>a nine to one one to call. They don't have

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<v Speaker 3>any time they call the government, they're they're the cartel

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<v Speaker 3>knows they did, you know, And a lot of those

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<v Speaker 3>people in government work for whichever cartel we're dealing with

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<v Speaker 3>at the time we're talking about. But it's a very

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<v Speaker 3>ugly situation. There's no pretty way out of this. There's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not to tie it into another issue, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's kind of like dealing with off like there's

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<v Speaker 3>no pretty way to do it. If that's what if

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to try to get him off, there's no

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<v Speaker 3>pretty way to do it. There's no nice way to

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<v Speaker 3>go about this, okay, And we're in the same situation

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<v Speaker 3>with Mexico in that regard, it's gonna be ugly. There's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be bloodshed, there's going to be people fighting for

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<v Speaker 3>control once other people are gone. There's gonna be military

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<v Speaker 3>aircraft shot down as there have been, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's gonna be drone explosions, and there's gonna be all

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<v Speaker 3>types of things that resemble guerrilla warfare in Mexico and

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<v Speaker 3>as there already are. Right, people only have to go

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<v Speaker 3>to Breitbart to read about land mines and the usage

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<v Speaker 3>of land mines and other IEDs and this it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be ugly, but we're going to get through the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the process of that, regardless of your opinions

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<v Speaker 3>on the drug war, there's going to be a lot

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<v Speaker 3>less illicit sentinel, right killing the people who are the

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<v Speaker 3>most vulnerable amongst us our communities, and we will see

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<v Speaker 3>more success if we stay the course that we are

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<v Speaker 3>currently on. I don't believe that we can stay the

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<v Speaker 3>course because, as you know, Jesse, you're you're in a

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<v Speaker 3>position where you probably hear a lot, see a lot

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<v Speaker 3>and deal with a lot of political leaders. There's something

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<v Speaker 3>wrong with most of the people who get in the politics.

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<v Speaker 3>Are I think their sociopaths are at least narcissistics so

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<v Speaker 3>much that they're close to that. And do I think

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<v Speaker 3>that they're going to have the stones that Trump has shown. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't, and I hope they do, but I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have faith in it. That's why I'm like, I am

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent supportive of being as aggressive right now

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<v Speaker 3>as we can be, as aggressive as we can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hammer the gas while we have the steering wheels still,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Darby, go if you're not reading the Cartel chronicles,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting this stuff all the time until I

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<v Speaker 1>drag poor Brandon over here with a cup of coffee. Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you brother. As always, I appreciate you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for educating us again
