Speaker 1: It is The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The
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Speaker 1: All right, so we're about to talk about a hostage
Speaker 1: situation this hour. We're also going to get to Brandon Darby.
Speaker 1: There's Cartel News Mexico's handing over twenty seven of Mexican
Speaker 1: cartel guys. Darby's gonna come about about a half hour
Speaker 1: from now talk to us about that. But let's talk
Speaker 1: about the hostage situation that's going on in America. And
Speaker 1: that hostage situation is well Trump talked about it.
Speaker 2: They really are there.
Speaker 1: They stuck, They don't know what to do. They have
Speaker 1: probably more I would say more than half are sane,
Speaker 1: but they are led by insane people. It's talking about
Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. They're stuck. I am curious about this.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I'm about to talk about something
Speaker 1: that I don't know about, and neither do you. I'm
Speaker 1: about to talk about something nobody knows about. How many
Speaker 1: American Democrats know they're in the midst of insanity, want
Speaker 1: the insanity to stop, but don't feel comfortable speaking out
Speaker 1: because this and they're not comfortable speaking out. It's a cult,
Speaker 1: it's a religion, it's culled. Cult members who speak out
Speaker 1: against the cult leader get treated horribly. I know people
Speaker 1: think I get a lot of hate mail and death threats,
Speaker 1: and of course that's true. You know, the communists hate me.
Speaker 1: You know who gets treated way worse than I do,
Speaker 1: way worse. I've openly declared myself to be the mortal
Speaker 1: enemy of communists. I am an anti communist, that is
Speaker 1: who I am. I believe in fighting and destroying communism
Speaker 1: until the day I die. If you are a Communist
Speaker 1: listening to my show, I despise you as much as
Speaker 1: you despise me, and I'm going to try to destroy
Speaker 1: your sick, demonic worldview. Now I've openly declared that former
Speaker 1: Democrats get treated way worse than I do, way worse.
Speaker 1: A Democrat who breaks away from the cult, who chooses
Speaker 1: to leave the religion, isn't just an enemy, He's a trader.
Speaker 1: And Democrats know this. Democrat politicians and normy democrats know this.
Speaker 1: Let's set aside the politicians, because I have lived in
Speaker 1: a Democrat world, a few different times in my life.
Speaker 1: The biggest one is when I lived in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: For a year, because everybody there's a freaking Democrat, which
Speaker 1: we're going to get to in a couple minutes. Everybody
Speaker 1: there is a Democrat. So I would get invited out
Speaker 1: with friends. I had a few friends there, ab and
Speaker 1: I would get invited out on a Friday, era a Saturday.
Speaker 1: Hey we're having some chicken wings and watching the game
Speaker 1: something like that. Well, at these parties, at these meetups,
Speaker 1: there were mostly Democrats there. Oftentimes there was Democrats there,
Speaker 1: and you can tell, you can tell there is a fear,
Speaker 1: a palpable fear they have at speaking against the cult
Speaker 1: in front of their friends. It is a palpable fear
Speaker 1: for them. They don't want to be piled on, they
Speaker 1: don't want to be torn apart. They frankly feel a
Speaker 1: little bit traitorous and dirty speaking out against the club,
Speaker 1: speaking out against the religion, So they don't do it.
Speaker 1: How many of them are there? If you live in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. For instance, which I know you don't, but
Speaker 1: if you live in Washington, d C. Or you visit Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. My son visited with his friends last year
Speaker 1: at the Lincoln Memorials, some violent meth head started screaming
Speaker 1: violent threats at them. Now, granted, because my son's an
Speaker 1: idiot and all of his friends are too, they started
Speaker 1: laughing and thought it was hilarious. But you understand what
Speaker 1: I mean. How many Democrats live in DC and they're
Speaker 1: afraid afraid of physical violence. As we've talked about before,
Speaker 1: that's a different kind of afraid, it really is. That's
Speaker 1: a whole different kind of fear. When you are afraid
Speaker 1: of being physically hurt yourself personally, that's a different kind
Speaker 1: of fear. How many Democrats are scared to walk to
Speaker 1: the office, walk to the car, don't want to go
Speaker 1: out after dark, lots and lots of them. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, their religion, their religion has a devil
Speaker 1: and his name is Donald Trump. How many Democrats in
Speaker 1: that city want the big, evil devil to come in
Speaker 1: and take the scum off the streets. They just don't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable saying.
Speaker 2: I will just go back to the fact that you know,
Speaker 2: the people that are cheering this on privately are not
Speaker 2: like right wing Republicans, are not maga people. A lot
Speaker 2: of our friends are in the media, and also Democrats
Speaker 2: that worked on Joe Biden's campaign, that worked on other campaigns.
Speaker 2: They're saying, Yeah, I'd like to feel safe walking around
Speaker 2: this city. If the federal government can be a positive
Speaker 2: partner in keeping the streets safe while again forming a
Speaker 2: partnership with the DC police and not taking over, then
Speaker 2: I at least the people I've spoken with that live
Speaker 2: in DC day in, day out see this as a
Speaker 2: positive step.
Speaker 1: See it as a positive step. Now that's Joe Scarborough.
Speaker 1: That's the stuff his friends are texting him. Hey, this
Speaker 1: is kind of cool. Hey I hate Trump. I hate Trump.
Speaker 1: They'll throw in the qualifier, I really hate Trump.
Speaker 3: Don't me wrong.
Speaker 1: I hate Trump, but sure would be nice to not
Speaker 1: get stabbed.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: Juxtapose that versus the DC Attorney General.
Speaker 4: It is a city and a community need to be
Speaker 4: much more focused on prevention and surrounding young people and
Speaker 4: their families with resources. If we want to be safer
Speaker 4: in the long run, we cannot prosecute and arrest our
Speaker 4: way out of it.
Speaker 1: That's how you have to talk when you're a Democrat
Speaker 1: elected leader, otherwise you get torn to shreds. How many
Speaker 1: normy Democrats or at least not totally insane. Democrats are
Speaker 1: living like that in not just DC, various parts of
Speaker 1: the country. How many are tired of the expense, tired
Speaker 1: of the taxes, tired of the crime, tired of the illegals,
Speaker 1: tired of the bilingual schools, tired of all the endless
Speaker 1: democrat misery that Democrats have brought onto this country. But
Speaker 1: they just don't have the courage to break away from
Speaker 1: the religion.
Speaker 3: And that is a.
Speaker 1: Very common theme in communist countries throughout history. When an
Speaker 1: evil communist regime takes over. It's not that all of
Speaker 1: them are masterminds and demons and tearing people apart. So
Speaker 1: many people putting on that Soviet uniform are disgusted by
Speaker 1: the Communist party, but they're afraid. How many Democrats listening
Speaker 1: to the sound of my voice right now are a
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable because it's hitting home, isn't it. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: squirming in your chair. Maybe that's you. I don't expect you,
Speaker 1: based on my voice, to go to that cocktail party
Speaker 1: this Friday and say to your friends, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: it is good to keep murderers in jail. I don't
Speaker 1: expect you to say that, But you could maybe maybe
Speaker 1: your courage would be contagious, as courage often is. And look,
Speaker 1: you can hate me all you want, but in a
Speaker 1: roundabout way, I'm trying to save your party. There is
Speaker 1: a chance the Democrat Party does a Thelma in Louise
Speaker 1: and drives right off the cliff. If they don't stop,
Speaker 1: you can't brand yourself as the pro murder party, the
Speaker 1: pro crime party. You can't say this stuff and keep
Speaker 1: getting elected. You're gonna end up losing. Places like New York.
Speaker 4: As a city and a community need to be much
Speaker 4: more focused on prevention and surrounding young people and their
Speaker 4: families with resources. If we want to be safer in
Speaker 4: the long run, we cannot prosecute and arrest our way
Speaker 4: out of it.
Speaker 1: You've already seen see Democrats won't see these signs. But
Speaker 1: I'm on the outside looking in, so I can see
Speaker 1: these signs. I know you can see these signs. You've
Speaker 1: already seen little burps, little little bits of pushback with
Speaker 1: these various recalls, these various little little election things, even
Speaker 1: in Chicago. Look, we love to make fun of this.
Speaker 1: Dufis who's the current mate.
Speaker 5: I would just say it like this that the president
Speaker 5: has always been intimidated by the intellectual prowess of black men,
Speaker 5: and so of course he would speak in those petite,
Speaker 5: in puerile terms.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I know we make fun of Chicago, but they
Speaker 1: did get rid of their last mayor because people were
Speaker 1: tired of it. I realized they replaced Lori Lightfoot with
Speaker 1: an even bigger moron. I understand that, but there are
Speaker 1: these little signs that people were sick of it. People
Speaker 1: are sick of it, and yet the leadership of the
Speaker 1: Democrat Party is trapped. Name me one national Democrat talking
Speaker 1: about cracking down on crime. Oh, it is the Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly Show on a wonderful Wednesday with me Bronco. What Chris,
Speaker 1: it's a Jesse Kelly show. And look it's been light tonight.
Speaker 3: He's as heavy as ten boxers that you might be moving.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense with what I just said, but
Speaker 1: I don't care. Sometimes I don't make sense. Let's do
Speaker 1: some emails. I said I was going to get to twenty.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many I've gotten to so far,
Speaker 1: but it's been a lot, now a lot, Chris Jesse.
Speaker 1: Here's a cool story. In two thousand, my step grandfather
Speaker 1: was the oldest living son of a Civil War vet.
Speaker 1: He was seventy nine at the time that Southern Living
Speaker 1: magazine did an interview with him. That's so cool. His
Speaker 1: dad was seventy eight when Grandpa was born. He was
Speaker 1: a Confederate veteran captured during the battle in eighteen sixty three,
Speaker 1: thrown in a Union pow camp in Chicago. I forgot
Speaker 1: the name of the camp. It was just as terrible
Speaker 1: as Andersonville, swampy and disease ridden. He talked about the
Speaker 1: only food they got was a boiled broth. Once a day,
Speaker 1: they caught rats and would cook them to eat. That's
Speaker 1: freaking cool anyway, He said they were almost dead by
Speaker 1: the end of the war. My step grandpa was a
Speaker 1: very unique man. In his late seventies, he had three
Speaker 1: different younger girlfriends that were in their forties and fifties.
Speaker 1: He had a date for every meal. He would joke
Speaker 1: about hiring and firing them. His name was Wiley Denny.
Speaker 1: I always enjoyed listening to the stories of these elderly men.
Speaker 1: My grandpa's uncles and dad were all veterans from World
Speaker 1: War Two, Korea, and Vietnam. They have all passed away.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: These men were treasures and they were greatly missed. I
Speaker 1: wanted to read that one because it's cool, and two
Speaker 1: I don't want to get sappy, but it is sad
Speaker 1: that we're losing our old timers. And I know that's
Speaker 1: how life goes, and they would tell you that too.
Speaker 1: I get that, But there aren't many World War Two
Speaker 1: veterans left and right on their heels. The Korean War
Speaker 1: guys are fading fast green woar guys. And I can't
Speaker 1: believe I'm going to say this, but we're probably what
Speaker 1: fifteen years away from losing our Vietnam guys. Sucks, I guns,
Speaker 1: that's how it goes. Jesse, My wife and I just
Speaker 1: returned from our honeymoon in Portugal. That's sweet. While we
Speaker 1: were there, we went on a private tour with a
Speaker 1: man from Dubai. When he learned that my wife is
Speaker 1: originally from Mexico, he heard Mexico was the gateway to
Speaker 1: the United States. Oh my gosh. I tried to play
Speaker 1: it off and told him we didn't know about all
Speaker 1: that because we did things the right way. My wife
Speaker 1: was here on a tourist visa when we met. She
Speaker 1: probably looked him right in the eyes and said Fell
Speaker 1: spent years getting her through the citizens process. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: drop the subject, though, and kept asking about the details
Speaker 1: of the process. He even said he was working with
Speaker 1: a company back in Dubai to find him a wife
Speaker 1: in the United States. I think the cherry on top
Speaker 1: was later in the day when he complained about the
Speaker 1: Ukrainian immigrants coming to Portugal and driving up the real
Speaker 1: estate market. His name is Matt uh. Look, it's a
Speaker 1: good thing. Let's focus on something positive about all this.
Speaker 1: It's a good thing that we live in a country
Speaker 1: everyone wants to go to. Isn't that Isn't that cool?
Speaker 1: Let's be happy about that.
Speaker 5: We you and me.
Speaker 1: I guess we have a bunch of international people listening
Speaker 1: to But you and me Americans. We live in the
Speaker 1: place everyone wants to visit. We're members of the club
Speaker 1: everyone wants in, and we're already here. It is cool, right,
Speaker 1: it's got to go. It makes me feel good when
Speaker 1: I think about that. Nobody's trying to get into some
Speaker 1: dumpling Italy. No, I'm kidding, nobody's trying to get into Rwanda.
Speaker 1: There's not a line. There's not a line to get
Speaker 1: into Yemen. No one wants to go there, nobody. We
Speaker 1: live in a place where people want to come now.
Speaker 1: It is sad, incredibly sad and incredibly aggravating that our
Speaker 1: politicians would I would love to say just Democrats, but
Speaker 1: we have James lank for type Republicans. That our politicians
Speaker 1: will routinely make public statements that encourage people to try
Speaker 1: to get in by any means necessary. That's horrible. The
Speaker 1: best border security is the rhetoric of the people who
Speaker 1: leave the country because everyone around the world listens. What
Speaker 1: do you think that dude in Dubai thinks about Donald
Speaker 1: Trump versus Joe Biden. Do you think that dude in
Speaker 1: Dubai right now, because of the headlines, because of the speeches,
Speaker 1: do you think he's going to try to get into
Speaker 1: this treat illegally? Not a chance. It's not worth the trouble,
Speaker 1: it's not worth the risk. It's not worth it at all.
Speaker 1: Why even bother but under Joe Biden, when the Communists
Speaker 1: were running things, why wouldn't you try? They created an
Speaker 1: app so you can schedule your invasion. It's amazing to me,
Speaker 1: amazing to me. Jesse, what's your insider info regarding the
Speaker 1: mar Lago FBI raid. Was it so frantic because the
Speaker 1: FBI rats were searching for the information that was discovered
Speaker 1: and exposed by Tulsey Gabbard. Could be. I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of that that the mar Lago raid was so
Speaker 1: they could find and seize the documents Trump had that
Speaker 1: proved those dirty rats were colluding behind his back during
Speaker 1: his presidency. I've heard that, and that certainly could be,
Speaker 1: and that's part of it probably, But here's what I
Speaker 1: know was part of it. They got afraid. In fact,
Speaker 1: we're gonna touch on that as soon as I'm done
Speaker 1: with if we can get ahold of him his cell phone.
Speaker 1: It's garbage right now. But if we can get a
Speaker 1: hold of Derby, then I'll talk to Derby next. If not,
Speaker 1: then we'll do this next. We'll talk about them being
Speaker 1: afraid and that being why they acted the way they acted. Now,
Speaker 1: what is it that is making them so afraid. It's
Speaker 1: the loss of control. The loss of control, and I
Speaker 1: don't just mean control of the government. They are losing
Speaker 1: control of the people themselves. In fact, if you're to
Speaker 1: study the trends, it looks like they fight out lost it.
Speaker 1: It probably never coming back and they're scared to death.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next. It is the Jesse Kelly
Speaker 1: Show on a fantastic Wednesday, I'll hope day, and it's
Speaker 1: always fantastic. When Brandon Darby of the Bright Cartel Chronicles,
Speaker 1: Big Big Cheese editor over there joins us to educate
Speaker 1: us on several things. Okay, Brandon, they're handing over twenty
Speaker 1: six cartel leaders Mexico. Is what is this?
Speaker 3: Am I supposed to call you Jesse or Bronco?
Speaker 1: Bronco. Please let's stick with Bronco.
Speaker 3: Please, I'll tell you Bronco, Jesse, Bronco. Thanks. Now when
Speaker 3: you did that. There's a guy on Twitter named gay Patriot,
Speaker 3: and I don't cc at gay Patriot just because gay's
Speaker 3: in his name.
Speaker 1: That's wrong.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, that's wrong. Okay to this seriousness, here's what
Speaker 3: just happened. Okay, this is the second time that Mexico,
Speaker 3: the Mexican government has handed over these big dogs in
Speaker 3: the in various cartels.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: The first time they handed over big dogs and a
Speaker 3: bunch of cartels and the Sinaloa cartel. But keep in
Speaker 3: mind that the main cartel, this guy on Mincho, it's
Speaker 3: Cartel Jalisco, right, CJ, and that's the name of them.
Speaker 3: They their current secretary of Defense has very close relationships
Speaker 3: with Mincho, right, They're very close. He is the one
Speaker 3: that is controlling the black markets of Mexico. He is
Speaker 3: the that is the dominant cartel in Mexico, Cartel Jalisco. Right.
Speaker 3: So they hand over all of these people. The first
Speaker 3: time Trump starts to threaten the government with tariff, they
Speaker 3: hand over a bunch of people, one of which one
Speaker 3: of whom had had you know, brutally killed a DEE
Speaker 3: agent nam Kiki Camarina in the eighties. It took that
Speaker 3: long for them to give us that guy, right. They
Speaker 3: literally let this guy like stay in Mexico. They let
Speaker 3: him out of prison. He started running a cartel again,
Speaker 3: and they put him back in prison of sorts. But
Speaker 3: he had this wonderful life, and they finally handed them
Speaker 3: over after three decades, right because of Trump. Otherwise that
Speaker 3: family of that DEE agent never would have had justice
Speaker 3: if it weren't for what Trump did and threatening Mexico.
Speaker 3: So they hand over these people. They're like, see, we're
Speaker 3: helping you and we're going to cooperate with you. But
Speaker 3: what they did was they only cooperated. Really, any big
Speaker 3: cooperation was against all of Minho and Cartel Jalisco's enemies.
Speaker 3: So really what they did was they had the USA
Speaker 3: helped them help their cartel buddy and take out all
Speaker 3: of his enemies. So he kept taking over more and
Speaker 3: more in Mexico. So the Trump administration wises up and says, hey,
Speaker 3: you're not going to do this to us. So then
Speaker 3: they say we're going to hit you with more tariffs
Speaker 3: and we're going to authorize US military action in Mexico.
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, Mexico's government says, oh, here
Speaker 3: are these twenty six more top Sinaloa and Jalisco cartel operators.
Speaker 3: But all the while, they will not give us and
Speaker 3: they will not go after the leader of Cartel Jalisco,
Speaker 3: who is paying many people in the leadership of Mexico.
Speaker 3: Do you see how this works? You see this game
Speaker 3: that's being played. Awesome that they handed these people over,
Speaker 3: Not awesome that they won't go after al Mincho. We
Speaker 3: can find Mincho, we I promise you. The US government
Speaker 3: has plenty of information as to where he is, but
Speaker 3: Mexico's protecting him anytime. You know, anytime that there's a
Speaker 3: chance to get him. Somebody tips him off the day before,
Speaker 3: you know, in the Mexican government, and he because we
Speaker 3: have to cooperate with the cartel connected government of Mexico.
Speaker 3: And that's what this is about. This is them saying, hey,
Speaker 3: we're doing something, We're showing you some action. Please don't
Speaker 3: try to start doing unilateral military action in our country
Speaker 3: because if you do, there's really not a darn thing
Speaker 3: we can do about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So again we're speaking with Brandon Darby Bright brought.
Speaker 1: This is exactly why I wanted to have him on
Speaker 1: because I was curious. I see the headline and immediately
Speaker 1: I'm curious, Brandon, before we get through other parts of
Speaker 1: what you just said, why not give this guy up.
Speaker 1: I know you've said before he is friends, I guess
Speaker 1: personal friends with I guess their secretary of defense or
Speaker 1: something like that. But is it fear? Is it friendship?
Speaker 1: Is it just simple brand money?
Speaker 3: Money? It's money. Everything is for sale in Mexico, So
Speaker 3: that is really good. If you're a bad guy and
Speaker 3: you can buy, you can buy your way out of justice.
Speaker 3: But if somebody comes in with a larger economic incentive,
Speaker 3: then they can buy justice for you and get you incarcerated.
Speaker 3: To see how this works, and everything is for sale
Speaker 3: in Mexico. It's the most complicated thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: If you try to do any business dealing in Mexico,
Speaker 3: this is how it goes down. You start doing it,
Speaker 3: it looks like it's going to work, and then at
Speaker 3: the last minute they go, well, there's this one guy
Speaker 3: and he wants, you know, twenty thousand dollars or he can't,
Speaker 3: you know, he can stop it. And so you're like, okay,
Speaker 3: all right, twenty thousand dollars, all right, all right, yes,
Speaker 3: he can be in the deal for twenty thousand dollars,
Speaker 3: no problem. And then it moves a little further. And
Speaker 3: then just on the last day, you think you're closing
Speaker 3: the deal and they go, well, there's this this guy
Speaker 3: really doesn't want this to go through. But there's this
Speaker 3: other guy who's this advisor, and he says that if
Speaker 3: we hire him as an advisor for one hundred thousand,
Speaker 3: you know, and you're like, oh my gosh, you know,
Speaker 3: like this is you know, a saine thing you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: It's hop business works in Mexico. It's how it works
Speaker 3: you know, and this is how it works on the
Speaker 3: highest levels as well. So again they're still protecting elmenshow
Speaker 3: they're still protecting Cartel Jalisco. They're still acting like they're
Speaker 3: helping us fight cartels while they for the most part
Speaker 3: only go after the enemies of Delmento. So we're clearing
Speaker 3: his path, right, and the Trump administration is starting to
Speaker 3: have enough of it, and they're like, all right, let's
Speaker 3: let's have the ante. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna
Speaker 3: authorize unilateral military action, and we're going to hit you
Speaker 3: with more tariffs because you're not you're not doing enough.
Speaker 3: So they say, okay, here's a little more. And then
Speaker 3: we're going to come back again and say you're not
Speaker 3: doing enough, and they're going to say here's a little more.
Speaker 3: And they're going to draw this out to where Trump
Speaker 3: is no longer in office, whoever's in their next does
Speaker 3: not care about this issue. They're just going to say
Speaker 3: they care about it like Democrats and Republicans have for decades, right,
Speaker 3: and they're not. That's what they're they're waiting it out.
Speaker 3: That's what he's doing. You're very intelligent, very smart, knows
Speaker 3: what he's doing and and he is is paying everyone
Speaker 3: and wait, waiting this out, waiting this administration out. However,
Speaker 3: it is also good that we are getting these people.
Speaker 3: But mind you, not, none of these people, not the
Speaker 3: first trench and not this trench, none of these cartel
Speaker 3: operators and leaders would would be facing us justice for
Speaker 3: what they've done to our communities if it were not
Speaker 3: for Trump threatening tariffs and threatening military action. And do
Speaker 3: not forget that fact. Do not let that slip off
Speaker 3: your brain anyone.
Speaker 1: Listening speaking with Brandon Darby Breitbart, I have so many
Speaker 1: more questions now based off of these other things. So
Speaker 1: we just asked this really briefly, Brandon, before I go
Speaker 1: to break and then attempt to strangle you to keep
Speaker 1: you here for one more segment this El Men show. Guy,
Speaker 1: you've mentioned, you've mentioned Benho several times. What's this background?
Speaker 1: Where do you come from?
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so Partel Jalisco was part of the Sinaloa Federation.
Speaker 3: I've talked about this on the show before. Not this
Speaker 3: particulars this, but the concept the Sinaloa cartell is really
Speaker 3: a federation, right, It's really a bunch of different criminal
Speaker 3: groups who are all you know, they agree to be
Speaker 3: under the banner of the Sinaloa Cartel, okay, But Mincho
Speaker 3: decided he was a leader in in Jalisco. He decided
Speaker 3: that he was going to start his own cartel. He
Speaker 3: was going to break his cartel away from the Sinaloa Federation,
Speaker 3: and that started a war between Cartel Jalisco now and
Speaker 3: the rest of the Sinaloa Federation. You know, the US government,
Speaker 3: with the help of the Mexican government, has taken out
Speaker 3: several of the Sinaloa leadership. So now the the Sinaloa Cartel,
Speaker 3: the Sinaloa Federation is a bunch of groups fighting each
Speaker 3: other right with and they have very limited federal power
Speaker 3: any longer. Some of them still have a lot of power,
Speaker 3: but it's it's going to be waning as years go by,
Speaker 3: right for sure, because we've we've done the same thing
Speaker 3: that we did to the Golf Cartel, which is we
Speaker 3: decapitated them so many times that now they're they're really
Speaker 3: a bunch of glorified gang bangers operating under the the
Speaker 3: you know, the banner of the Golf cartel. But really
Speaker 3: there's just a bunch of you know, there's probably ten
Speaker 3: different leaders of the Golf cartel. Right, you know, these
Speaker 3: different factions that oftentimes are fighting each other. So and
Speaker 3: it's much easier to deal with that than it is
Speaker 3: to deal with an El Mincho or a Sinaloa cartel
Speaker 3: when it was in its heyday, because they control, they
Speaker 3: have access to control in the federal government. Right, so
Speaker 3: when you deal with the Golf cartel, now they have
Speaker 3: regional they might have some municipal employees or workers, they
Speaker 3: have some journalists, they have some people in the state government,
Speaker 3: but not as many, not the governor any longer. Right,
Speaker 3: they don't have the kind of power, and that's because
Speaker 3: of the decapitation approach, and that's what's happening with the Sinaloa.
Speaker 3: But so Mincho broke away and said, hey, my criminal
Speaker 3: group because is now Cartajalisco and it's no longer under
Speaker 3: your leadership, and from now on I make all the money,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to be so brutal that that you know,
Speaker 3: all of you are going to be afraid to mess
Speaker 3: with me. And that's kind of what's happened.
Speaker 1: He is, he is sorry, Here is Brandon Darby. Brandon,
Speaker 1: do you have just time for a couple more questions?
Speaker 1: After the break, I'd love to have a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: I'm chilling, I'm I'm all about it. Perfect. It is
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Speaker 1: We are back with Brandon Darby of the great Bart
Speaker 1: Bright Bart Cartel Chronicles. Brandon, Okay, you mentioned the Sinaloa
Speaker 1: Federation and how we continue to take out the heads
Speaker 1: of this. How significant was the taking out of El
Speaker 1: Choppo to the disintegration, the slow disintegration of the Sineloa Federation.
Speaker 1: I don't know. L Chop Was he some unbelievable seminal
Speaker 1: figure or was he just another guy?
Speaker 3: He was an unbelievable seminal figure. He it's a big deal,
Speaker 3: you know, I would say at this point it you know,
Speaker 3: it's a big deal to do. But again we have
Speaker 3: to understand the context. The context is another guy sprung up,
Speaker 3: another guy started paying more people than politicking better. And
Speaker 3: then the Mexican government was willing to go after their
Speaker 3: former boy because everything is for sale, right, and and
Speaker 3: he did it. He did the job better, He did
Speaker 3: the politicking and the bribing better, and so then the
Speaker 3: Mexican government was willing to go after him. Now we're
Speaker 3: at a point where there we can't pay two people
Speaker 3: off of each other because there's no one as powerful
Speaker 3: as Omento any longer, right, so there's no one that powerful,
Speaker 3: So so we can't take that approach. So, yes, that
Speaker 3: was a lovely approach at the time under the specific circumstances.
Speaker 3: Getting El Chapo here was a big deal. Getting his
Speaker 3: son here was a big deal. Getting you know, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of these big deals that are happening, but
Speaker 3: they're still protecting the biggest archel figure in Mexico and
Speaker 3: El Chopo. Make no mistake, Mexico would not have gone
Speaker 3: after El Chapo and helped us go after Il Chapo
Speaker 3: were they not doing the bidding of El Chapo's rival.
Speaker 3: Get it. So that's where we are, That's what we're
Speaker 3: dealing with. We're dealing with a fragile nation that's literally
Speaker 3: listed as a fragile nation, not a failed nation, but
Speaker 3: a fragile state. Right that is what Mexico is, a
Speaker 3: fragile Marco state. And that is there are a lot
Speaker 3: of good people in Mexico, and there are a lot
Speaker 3: of good people in Mexico's leadership are trying to be
Speaker 3: in Mexico's leadership, in Mexico's law enforcement community, but make
Speaker 3: no mistakes, there are a lot more who are not
Speaker 3: good when it comes to the leadership of that country
Speaker 3: because some of them are in those situations so they
Speaker 3: can't make money. Some of them are in those situations
Speaker 3: to make a change, and then they're told, you know,
Speaker 3: you want plato oplomo, like you want silver or lead.
Speaker 3: We can either make you rich or we can kill
Speaker 3: you and all of your children and your grandparents and
Speaker 3: your wife. And so they choose to go the dirty
Speaker 3: route because they don't have an FBI to call or
Speaker 3: a nine to one one to call. They don't have
Speaker 3: any time they call the government, they're they're the cartel
Speaker 3: knows they did, you know, And a lot of those
Speaker 3: people in government work for whichever cartel we're dealing with
Speaker 3: at the time we're talking about. But it's a very
Speaker 3: ugly situation. There's no pretty way out of this. There's
Speaker 3: you know, not to tie it into another issue, but
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like dealing with off like there's
Speaker 3: no pretty way to do it. If that's what if
Speaker 3: you're going to try to get him off, there's no
Speaker 3: pretty way to do it. There's no nice way to
Speaker 3: go about this, okay, And we're in the same situation
Speaker 3: with Mexico in that regard, it's gonna be ugly. There's
Speaker 3: gonna be bloodshed, there's going to be people fighting for
Speaker 3: control once other people are gone. There's gonna be military
Speaker 3: aircraft shot down as there have been, or you know,
Speaker 3: there's gonna be drone explosions, and there's gonna be all
Speaker 3: types of things that resemble guerrilla warfare in Mexico and
Speaker 3: as there already are. Right, people only have to go
Speaker 3: to Breitbart to read about land mines and the usage
Speaker 3: of land mines and other IEDs and this it's gonna
Speaker 3: be ugly, but we're going to get through the other side.
Speaker 3: And in the process of that, regardless of your opinions
Speaker 3: on the drug war, there's going to be a lot
Speaker 3: less illicit sentinel, right killing the people who are the
Speaker 3: most vulnerable amongst us our communities, and we will see
Speaker 3: more success if we stay the course that we are
Speaker 3: currently on. I don't believe that we can stay the
Speaker 3: course because, as you know, Jesse, you're you're in a
Speaker 3: position where you probably hear a lot, see a lot
Speaker 3: and deal with a lot of political leaders. There's something
Speaker 3: wrong with most of the people who get in the politics.
Speaker 3: Are I think their sociopaths are at least narcissistics so
Speaker 3: much that they're close to that. And do I think
Speaker 3: that they're going to have the stones that Trump has shown. No,
Speaker 3: I don't, and I hope they do, but I don't
Speaker 3: have faith in it. That's why I'm like, I am
Speaker 3: one hundred percent supportive of being as aggressive right now
Speaker 3: as we can be, as aggressive as we can be.
Speaker 1: Let's hammer the gas while we have the steering wheels still,
Speaker 1: Brandon Darby, go if you're not reading the Cartel chronicles,
Speaker 1: you're not getting this stuff all the time until I
Speaker 1: drag poor Brandon over here with a cup of coffee. Brandon,
Speaker 1: thank you brother. As always, I appreciate you so much.
Speaker 1: Thanks for educating us again