WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.799 It's night with Dan ray I'm telling you crazy Boston's 2 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:05.879 News Radio. 3 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:10.599 Thanks very much, Madison. Good evening everyone. As we move 4 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:15.039 into a Tuesday. By my calendar, it says it's June tenth, 5 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:18.000 so we are in June, the sixth month of the year, 6 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:22.359 and we are like twenty days from the halfway point 7 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:25.800 of twenty twenty five. Tempest fugit. That's what they used 8 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:27.800 to teach us in Latin school back in the day. 9 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:30.480 My name's Dan raym the host of Nightside, heard every 10 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:33.479 Monday through Friday night from eight until midnight right here 11 00:00:33.520 --> 00:00:37.640 on WVZ, Boston's News Radio ten thirty on your AM dial. 12 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:40.759 Rob Brooks is back in the control room, and we 13 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:44.359 will start off of the first hour as we always do, 14 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.600 the night Side News Update, with four guests who have 15 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:51.439 information on various topics. You're going to talk about the 16 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:55.000 Battle of Bunker Hill two point fifty, a big commemorative 17 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:58.240 event coming up. We'll be talking about that. We'll talk 18 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.359 with Kelly Eisner of the American Red Cup US here 19 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:04.359 in Massachusetts about a blood shortage, something that all of 20 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:08.200 us can help alleviate if you are so inclined. And 21 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:14.879 then later on We're going to talk about women becoming butchers. 22 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:18.840 Apparently there is a paucity of female butchers. I don't 23 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.719 think I've ever run into a female butcher, but we'll 24 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.319 talk about that. We're going to start off with doctor 25 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:30.040 Dean Suitor. He is the organ Distinguished Professor of Urban 26 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:34.959 Entomology at the University of Georgia. Doctor Suter. Hope, I 27 00:01:34.959 --> 00:01:36.959 pronounced that name correctly. How are you this evening? 28 00:01:37.680 --> 00:01:39.640 That's perfect, Dan. How are you doing tonight? 29 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.560 I'm doing very well. Always nice to hear a Georgia 30 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.319 accent here up in New England and all up and 31 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:49.040 down the East coast of America. On WBZ. We know 32 00:01:49.280 --> 00:01:53.959 a lot about nasty bugs and spiders and things like that. 33 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:58.159 We talked last week with an expert about the spotted 34 00:01:58.439 --> 00:02:03.079 lantern fly. It sounds lovely, but it's a nasty it's 35 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:07.719 a nasty bug. But tonight we're going to talk about 36 00:02:08.080 --> 00:02:13.639 Asian needle iiots. They do not sound like they're any 37 00:02:13.800 --> 00:02:17.800 fun at all. And why don't we explain to us 38 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:22.599 what an Asian needleiot? I hope I never run into one. Yeah, yeah, yes, 39 00:02:22.759 --> 00:02:27.759 they're the more prevalent in our world than maybe I 40 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:29.240 realized tell us about them. 41 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:33.479 Yes, So the Asian needleland was that it was actually 42 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:37.479 first discovered in Georgia back in the nineteen thirties and 43 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.759 couple of surrounding states. It was pretty well established at 44 00:02:40.800 --> 00:02:44.840 that time, but specimens started showing up in natural history museums, 45 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:48.120 and so for the longest time, well since the thirties, 46 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.800 nobody was It really didn't garner a lot of interest 47 00:02:51.560 --> 00:02:56.159 till probably twenty five years ago several scientists from Clemson 48 00:02:56.280 --> 00:03:00.919 University started working on its biology and ecology. And what 49 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:05.520 really brought the latest notoriety of this critter is that 50 00:03:06.919 --> 00:03:10.360 in my job Dan, I interfaced with the public quite 51 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:14.120 a bit, and last year I got several, I'm probably 52 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:18.719 three or four cases where homeowners had contacted me here 53 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:21.680 in Georgia who had been stung by this ant and 54 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:24.520 wound up in the hospital with anaphylaxis and nearly died. 55 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:28.800 And when I hear that that that's a trend to me. 56 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:32.199 So the folks at Clemson kind of they they sounded 57 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:35.120 this alarm ten years ago, but it really if you 58 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:37.840 talked to an entomologists in the southeast and probably up 59 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:41.319 and down the East Coast, you'll find people who have 60 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.599 held who have encountered cases where you know a client 61 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:45.879 has had anaphylaxis. 62 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:51.919 So so we have ants up here. I'm not an entomologist, 63 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:56.000 but I'm aware of my surroundings. And we have black ants, 64 00:03:56.080 --> 00:03:59.520 and we have red ants, and I guess they are 65 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:03.000 a carp ther ants, and you know, more a variety 66 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:06.919 of species. But where the heck did this species come from? 67 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.560 And why is it all of a sudden after having 68 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.520 been fairly stable in one area of the country. Not 69 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.319 that we want to keep them in Georgia, but they 70 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:19.120 end up Are they in New England as well? At 71 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:19.519 this point? 72 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:23.439 Yeah, there are reported cases of them in New England 73 00:04:23.480 --> 00:04:26.040 all the way up the east coast. So my hunch 74 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.879 is that they're probably not as widely distributed in New England, 75 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:32.920 but they have been reported from several several states in 76 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:36.519 New England. So the areas that are characterized where you 77 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:39.959 find this ant, it's going to be hardwood areas with 78 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:45.600 a kind of open understory underneath the hardwood, so oak trees, 79 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.759 oak areas, spices like that, and it's I think the 80 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:50.800 reason why it hasn't garnered a lot of tension over 81 00:04:50.839 --> 00:04:53.680 all the years is because it's just it's a three 82 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:56.560 sixteenths of an inch kind of boring little ant that 83 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:00.639 crawls around on the on the surface of the sidewalk 84 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:04.000 and nobody really pays attention to it until you're working 85 00:05:04.000 --> 00:05:05.680 in the garden one day and you get stung by it, 86 00:05:06.079 --> 00:05:09.160 and if you if you are susceptible to anaphylaxis, you 87 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:11.759 can wind up in the hospital. So it's it's one 88 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:13.920 of these things that we're what we're telling people is 89 00:05:14.000 --> 00:05:17.480 learned to identify it. And if you you can go 90 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.079 to your county extension agent you could probably send them 91 00:05:21.120 --> 00:05:25.759 to you mass Amherst and get them identified if you so, 92 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:27.399 if you know what it is, you can you can 93 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:31.199 kind of avoid it. But it and identification is really 94 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:33.279 not for the novice. You can take a good picture 95 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.639 of it, send it to U mass somebody there can 96 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:39.000 identify it, and then you have at least your you're 97 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:41.680 armed with the with the evidence. They either have it 98 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:43.920 or you don't have it on your property. That's important. 99 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:44.839 That's step number one. 100 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.720 Okay, are they pictures of the Internet so someone could google, 101 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:51.839 you know, and not wait for the ad to appear 102 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:55.439 and get a picture. Are they reddish are they. What's 103 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:56.120 the coloration. 104 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:00.319 They're kind of blackish brown, about three sixteen seven ants inch. 105 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:04.279 But they don't they don't crawl. They don't they don't trail. 106 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:06.639 So you'll see them crawling and they look like they're lost. 107 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:09.600 They'll be all by themselves and they'll just be crawling 108 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:14.399 on the substrate. They kind of look harmless. And there's 109 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:17.800 a there's a website called Ants of the Southeastern US. 110 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.399 If you google that, there's some really great images of 111 00:06:21.439 --> 00:06:24.399 the of the Asian needlelant on that website. You know, 112 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:26.120 the good thing about this and is it does not 113 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:31.279 come inside like many pest ants that come inside and 114 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:33.839 come after your dog food or cafood. This critter tends 115 00:06:33.839 --> 00:06:36.360 to stay outside. And the thing about it is it's 116 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.639 most abundant during the time when we're outside doing our thing. 117 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:41.480 You know, we're working in the garden and that kind 118 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:43.399 of thing. So when I'm when I'm here and I'm 119 00:06:43.399 --> 00:06:45.800 working in the garden, if I pick up something that's 120 00:06:45.839 --> 00:06:48.040 laying on the ground, I look at it, I look 121 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:49.839 underneath it, because that's what they like to do. They 122 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:53.680 like to live in underneath patio stones and and and 123 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.680 logs that are laying on the ground. That's their favorite place. 124 00:06:57.040 --> 00:06:59.040 And so we try to get people to clean that 125 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:01.480 stuff up and keep your firewood piled up off the 126 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.360 ground so it doesn't so it doesn't get wet. They 127 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:05.480 really like wet wood. 128 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:13.560 I'll tell you, it's amazing that these these invasive species. 129 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:18.560 I assume this is all because we're doing more international 130 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:21.759 trade in the twentieth century than we did in the nineteenth. 131 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:25.000 And we're doing more international trade. This must be an 132 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:29.160 offspring of international trade. Not only just these needle ants, 133 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:34.160 but also the longhoined beetle and the juro spider and 134 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:37.639 the lantern fly. And is that a safe assumption that 135 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:38.360 I'm making. 136 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:42.360 My way off is that now that's safe. International commerce 137 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:45.199 is the way these things move around. So, as a 138 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:47.480 graduate student that was working on the Port of Savannah 139 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:49.279 is one of the busiest ports in the US, and 140 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:52.639 so he was looking at the ants associated with the 141 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:56.000 Port of Savannah several years ago. He identified forty three 142 00:07:56.040 --> 00:07:58.120 species of ants on the port, and a third of 143 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:01.560 them were not native to the US, so they weren't 144 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:03.639 highly invasive, but they were not They were what we 145 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.560 call exotic. They're from a different from a different land, 146 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:08.639 and they had just established on the port and we're 147 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:10.800 doing their thing along with all the native ants. But 148 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:12.879 a third of the a third of the fauna ant 149 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:17.079 fauna on the port was was were exotic ants. 150 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:22.040 And I'm assuming that these never go extinct, correct, I mean, 151 00:08:22.959 --> 00:08:25.759 you know we always hear about the bald eagles going 152 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:30.639 extinct or whatever. You know that these beautiful creatures, but 153 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:35.360 any chance like they go extinct at that point. 154 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:39.879 No, No, the e word eradication is not used by entomologists. 155 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:44.440 That they don't. That's a bad word in entomology because 156 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.559 once once a critter gets established somewhere, it's really hard 157 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:49.639 to eradicate. You can manage it, and that's what we 158 00:08:49.679 --> 00:08:52.120 recommend is if you're thinking about this ant on your 159 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:54.080 property or other of you have other pest problems, call 160 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.919 your local pest control company. But uh, eradication is a 161 00:08:57.960 --> 00:08:58.399 bad word. 162 00:08:58.440 --> 00:08:59.440 You you you. 163 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:03.360 Can, you can them down but and keep them at 164 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:07.279 a smaller population level. But eradication is not not really 165 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:09.159 not really possible in most cases. 166 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:12.240 I mean most people will say that it's it's even 167 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.759 a horrible species. Every species has a purpose. I'm not 168 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.720 an entomologist, and that that most entomologists would say, even 169 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:25.120 if you could eliminate a specific species, it would not 170 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.159 be the right thing to do. Are you I assume 171 00:09:27.200 --> 00:09:28.480 you're in that camp, right. 172 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:32.240 Well, the thing about this critter is not it's not 173 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:34.759 from this It's not from North America, right, So it 174 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:38.440 evolved in Asia, and so there are certain there are 175 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.600 certain biological traits that when an invasive species comes in 176 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:45.639 and it falls out of the container. Uh, there's certain 177 00:09:45.720 --> 00:09:48.799 invasive there's certain traits that allow it to kind of 178 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:50.639 elbow its way in. And so we see that with 179 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:53.720 invasive ants, especially this one when it when it has 180 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:57.240 moved in and there's other invasive ants. This does do 181 00:09:57.399 --> 00:09:59.879 this when they move into an area, that really simplify 182 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:02.759 the ecology and they can really mess up the area 183 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.159 because one of the things they do is they drive 184 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:08.200 our native ants to extinction and they dominate because they 185 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:11.200 dominate the they dominate the food resources. So that's kind 186 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.360 of the kind of the issue with invasive ants. And 187 00:10:13.440 --> 00:10:15.919 on top of that, this one happens to be a 188 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:19.679 pretty pretty important medical past. So it stings and can 189 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:20.639 put you in the hospital. 190 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.720 Okay, So therefore it wouldn't be a bad thing if 191 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:27.919 some scientists came up with a way to eliminate these 192 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:29.559 or least ship them back to China. 193 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:31.200 Yeah, there's no doubt about it. 194 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:31.399 Man. 195 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:33.679 If we get to find a way to control it, 196 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:35.519 that's the that's the golden thing. 197 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.919 Yeah. Well, doctor Dan Souter, I enjoyed it very very much, 198 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:45.159 The or Can Distinguished Professor of Urban Entomology, University of Georgia. 199 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:48.320 That's a pretty good football program down there. You're gonna 200 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:51.879 have to deal with Belichick though, I think at some point. Yeah, 201 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:55.879 just just watch out for his girlfriends. She kind of 202 00:10:55.919 --> 00:11:01.759 controls the situation. You've got to know that. Thanks, docor Sooner. 203 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:03.720 I appreciate it very much. Enjoyed the cover. 204 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:07.039 Have a great evening. 205 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:09.600 I sure will. When we come back, we're going to 206 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:13.679 talk with Jonathan Lane. He's a historian, and we're going 207 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.200 to talk about the Battle of Bunker Hill, the two 208 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.399 hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Hill. 209 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:21.960 It's a commemorative event. It's not going to be taking 210 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.840 place in Charlestown. 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I'm w b Z, 241 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:05.360 Boston's News Radio. 242 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:10.879 All right, let us now proceed, and I'm delighted to 243 00:13:11.480 --> 00:13:13.840 reintroduce to you, gentlemen. Who's been a guest a couple 244 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:17.840 of times with us already, Jonathan Lane. He is a historian. Jonathan, 245 00:13:17.840 --> 00:13:18.559 how are you tonight? 246 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:22.480 Hey, Dan, Thanks very much for the opportunity. It's a 247 00:13:22.519 --> 00:13:24.320 good year, the two hundred and fiftieth. 248 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.240 Well, yeah, the good thing about it is we're just 249 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:30.840 starting it when you think about it, and we're going 250 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:34.480 to talk about the Battle of Bunker Hill. Now. The 251 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:37.480 actual date for the Battle of Bunker Hill, I think 252 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:42.799 is June nineteenth. Is that not correct? June seventeenth, seventeenth, Okay, 253 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:45.639 I knew it was one of those. That's okay, June seventeenth. 254 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:49.200 So this event is going to be held on that 255 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:51.799 day or will it be held on the weekend prior to. 256 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:56.480 Well, we actually have a whole ten days worth of 257 00:13:56.519 --> 00:13:59.720 events that people can attend, both in the neighborhood of 258 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:03.720 Charlie Town in Boston and also of course culminating in 259 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:06.840 the sort of grand scale reenactment that's going to happen 260 00:14:06.960 --> 00:14:09.200 up in Gloucester on the twenty first and twenty second. 261 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.440 Okay, so the dates we're talking about is a Saturday 262 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.960 and Sunday. That's where I got confused. Four. 263 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:20.320 Yeah, for the reenactment, that's true. But events actually have 264 00:14:20.440 --> 00:14:23.440 already started this week in Charlestown and. 265 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:26.080 They're on Yeah, go ahead, Oh. 266 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.240 It's you know, it's absolutely amazing. So the City of 267 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:33.399 Boston archaeologist has been trying to uncover remnants of the 268 00:14:33.440 --> 00:14:36.519 town of Charleston, which of course was entirely destroyed during 269 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:40.279 the battle and four hundred and five hundred houses, and 270 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:44.200 the archaeology he's doing is really helping us to understand 271 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:47.919 the lives of the people who lost everything in this battle, 272 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:52.480 even if they weren't actually on the battlefield. So there's 273 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:55.480 continuing work being done on that. We've got the parade 274 00:14:55.519 --> 00:14:59.240 on Sunday, which is an epic opportunity for people to 275 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.720 come out and showcase their love for this history and 276 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:05.639 for the veterans who really work hard to put that 277 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.720 event together. Actually on Saturday, of course, June fourteenth is 278 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.519 the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States Army, 279 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.720 and a lot of the veterans in the Army look 280 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:21.960 upon Bunker Hill as their first battle, even though quite frankly, 281 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:24.639 they didn't know they were in the Continental Army at 282 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:27.720 that point, but they would find out soon enough when 283 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:31.960 George Washington arrives to take command. So we'll be doing 284 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:34.679 a lot of two hundred and fiftieth Birthday of the 285 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:39.919 United States Army event since at Bunker Hill on Saturday, 286 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:43.399 there's going to be a flag garden, a memorial flag 287 00:15:43.399 --> 00:15:48.000 garden for the thousands of men who gave their lives 288 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:50.679 not just on the American side, but also on the 289 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:54.279 British side. This battle was devastating to the British Army. 290 00:15:54.279 --> 00:15:57.200 They lost more men in this battle than they lost 291 00:15:57.240 --> 00:16:00.639 in any other battle during the entire eight year war 292 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.480 for American Independence, and so we want that. 293 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:04.840 Yeah, that's great. 294 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.639 Yeah, they really changed the way they thought. 295 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:13.960 The Gloucester event, which is going to be the following weekend, 296 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:17.720 the twenty first and the twenty first and twenty second. 297 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:20.879 Why is it in Gloucester and not in Charlestown. 298 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:25.759 You know, any public historian, our historian of any stripe 299 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:29.000 would really want to be on the hill on the day, 300 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:31.639 which is why we're looking forward to the events on 301 00:16:31.679 --> 00:16:35.399 the seventeenth. But in reality to put on the kind 302 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:38.559 of grand scale reenactment that has been planned. We have 303 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:42.639 a thousand reenactors coming from all over the United States 304 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.320 to participate in this, as far away as the Carolina's 305 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:49.679 coming up to participate, to showcase not just the lives 306 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.759 and actions of the British soldiers and the provincial soldiers, 307 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:56.759 but also of the citizens of Charlestown who, as I 308 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:01.600 said before, lost everything. So we we need space. We 309 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:06.839 need a park with a hill that can accommodate these 310 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:10.880 all of these reenactors and their camp since many of 311 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:13.720 them will be camping out, And of course we needed 312 00:17:13.759 --> 00:17:18.279 it by the ocean because the maritime component is very important. 313 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.599 We have four ships that are going to come in 314 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:25.160 and stand in for the British navy that surrounded Charlestown. 315 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:28.559 And at the end of the day, when we started 316 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:32.000 looking around for spots that then Diagram got smaller and smaller, 317 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:35.079 and we finally found a place at stage Fort Park 318 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.039 in Gloucester, and they have been wonderful partners and we're 319 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:43.400 looking forward to encouraging everybody to go to Charlestown, the 320 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:45.799 Hill where it happened, and then come on up to 321 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:49.759 Gloucester to see history reimagined or really it's. 322 00:17:49.640 --> 00:17:51.799 Such important history and it really does spread it out, 323 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:56.079 which I think is really good. It's wonderful that so 324 00:17:56.319 --> 00:17:59.839 much of this people will have an opportunity to participate in. 325 00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:02.119 There's got to be a website that we can send 326 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:05.599 people to in case they weren't taking notes during our conversation. 327 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:08.759 I'm going to give you two websites. For all the 328 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.920 events in Charlestown, definitely go to b H two five 329 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:16.799 zero dot org so Bunker Hill two five zero dot org. 330 00:18:16.880 --> 00:18:20.160 And then for the events up in Gloucester, I commend 331 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:23.559 you to Battle of Bunker Hill two fifty dot com. 332 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.759 Sounds great, sounds great. Well, look, Jonathan, I really do 333 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:33.000 appreciate you are really a compendium of information, particularly when 334 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:37.759 it comes to Revolutionary war history, and there's no better 335 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:39.799 person to talk to than you, So I thank you 336 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:44.000 for joining us tonight, and maybe we can fit in 337 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:48.160 on one other event, or maybe we can do something 338 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:52.319 next week to talk about if you get a breadth, 339 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:55.720 a breadth an opportunity just to take a breather, we 340 00:18:55.759 --> 00:18:59.200 could do something quickly in advance of the Gloucester activity. 341 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.160 We'll see if we can work schedules that way. 342 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:04.079 Okay, that would be terrific. I'd just like to share 343 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.240 one more thing, which is that all of these events, 344 00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:08.519 they are trying to tell the stories of some of 345 00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:12.880 the underrepresented voices at Bunker Hill, so more than one 346 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:17.119 hundred and fifty patriots of color fought. The first indigenous 347 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:20.440 person was killed at the Battle of Bunker Hill on 348 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:24.039 the American side. So we're looking forward to getting people 349 00:19:24.079 --> 00:19:25.839 involved in all of the stories. 350 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:29.240 Okay, sounds great, Jonathan, we'll talk again. Thank you so much. 351 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:31.079 Thanks Dan, have a great night. 352 00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:33.480 You too. When we get back, right after the news, 353 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:35.440 we're going to talk about a short age your blood 354 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:37.839 for Red Cross. This is the time of year, going 355 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:41.119 into some of the bad storms of the summer season, 356 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:43.599 the hurricane season. When we talk with Kelly Eisner right 357 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:45.079 after the news at the bottom. 358 00:19:44.839 --> 00:19:47.920 Of the hour, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray 359 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:52.799 on w BEZ, Boston's news radio. 360 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:55.839 All Right, the Atlantic hurricane season is now underway. I 361 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.720 think it runs June July, August, September and stops a 362 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.759 Remember first, so far, we've been lucky, no hurricanes. We 363 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:06.400 got ten days down and whatever the rest. One hundred 364 00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:09.559 and forty to go with me is Kelly Eisner, spokesperson 365 00:20:09.599 --> 00:20:13.279 for the American Red Cross here in Massachusetts. Kelly, I 366 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:17.759 understand that the American Red Cross needs blood throughout the year, 367 00:20:18.519 --> 00:20:21.319 but apparently we're a little low right now. What's going on? 368 00:20:22.440 --> 00:20:24.359 Well, you know, this is that time of year where 369 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:28.640 we remind people that yes, exactly like you said, hurricane 370 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:31.240 season has started. It's the time of year where we're 371 00:20:31.279 --> 00:20:35.000 thinking about you know, summer plans, getting away, going to 372 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:39.000 the Cape. You know, maybe not today with cold and rainy, but. 373 00:20:39.720 --> 00:20:42.039 No, yeah, I know, don't remind me, Kelly. 374 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:47.480 But you know in the midst of all that hospitals 375 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:51.319 need blood three hundred and sixty five days a year. 376 00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:54.039 You know, blood has a shelf life of forty two days. 377 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:58.680 So if you donate blood today, that blood will won't 378 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:02.119 be able to be transiated the patient after about mid July. 379 00:21:02.440 --> 00:21:05.200 So we just want to remind people that, you know, 380 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:08.839 as everything else is going on, as hurricanes happen, as 381 00:21:08.880 --> 00:21:10.799 they start to talk about hurricanes, I mean, yeah, I 382 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.039 love your ten day countdown, but you. 383 00:21:14.039 --> 00:21:16.559 Know that we're good so far. 384 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:22.559 Exactly, it's exactly, but there is that potential. And you know, 385 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:25.160 we see like last year was a really bad season 386 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:28.319 for hurricanes, and what happened is when they do hit, 387 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.039 that affects the blood supply as well, because you know, 388 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.240 if it's dangerous to go out and give blood, we 389 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:36.880 can't have our staff go out and keep running blood drives, 390 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:39.279 and we wouldn't ask our donors to go out in 391 00:21:39.359 --> 00:21:43.079 that so it all has a compounding effect. 392 00:21:43.200 --> 00:21:46.079 So yeah, well, there are some people in my audience 393 00:21:46.079 --> 00:21:50.680 who I know are dedicated blood donors. Just remind all 394 00:21:50.759 --> 00:21:53.839 of us, if you give blood today, when can you 395 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.240 do it again? What is the amount of separation that 396 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:01.599 you have to have between two blood donations. 397 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:05.279 It's about six weeks. It's actually fifty six days exactly. 398 00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:10.720 Okay, well we can, yeah, we can fifty six days. Okay, 399 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:14.319 Well that's actually eight weeks, so it's a little more 400 00:22:14.359 --> 00:22:18.480 than did make sure what division there? Okay, So sixty 401 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:24.640