Speaker 1: It's night with Dan ray I'm telling you crazy Boston's
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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Madison. Good evening everyone. As we move
Speaker 2: into a Tuesday. By my calendar, it says it's June tenth,
Speaker 2: so we are in June, the sixth month of the year,
Speaker 2: and we are like twenty days from the halfway point
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. Tempest fugit. That's what they used
Speaker 2: to teach us in Latin school back in the day.
Speaker 2: My name's Dan raym the host of Nightside, heard every
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Speaker 2: Rob Brooks is back in the control room, and we
Speaker 2: will start off of the first hour as we always do,
Speaker 2: the night Side News Update, with four guests who have
Speaker 2: information on various topics. You're going to talk about the
Speaker 2: Battle of Bunker Hill two point fifty, a big commemorative
Speaker 2: event coming up. We'll be talking about that. We'll talk
Speaker 2: with Kelly Eisner of the American Red Cup US here
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts about a blood shortage, something that all of
Speaker 2: us can help alleviate if you are so inclined. And
Speaker 2: then later on We're going to talk about women becoming butchers.
Speaker 2: Apparently there is a paucity of female butchers. I don't
Speaker 2: think I've ever run into a female butcher, but we'll
Speaker 2: talk about that. We're going to start off with doctor
Speaker 2: Dean Suitor. He is the organ Distinguished Professor of Urban
Speaker 2: Entomology at the University of Georgia. Doctor Suter. Hope, I
Speaker 2: pronounced that name correctly. How are you this evening?
Speaker 3: That's perfect, Dan. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm doing very well. Always nice to hear a Georgia
Speaker 2: accent here up in New England and all up and
Speaker 2: down the East coast of America. On WBZ. We know
Speaker 2: a lot about nasty bugs and spiders and things like that.
Speaker 2: We talked last week with an expert about the spotted
Speaker 2: lantern fly. It sounds lovely, but it's a nasty it's
Speaker 2: a nasty bug. But tonight we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: Asian needle iiots. They do not sound like they're any
Speaker 2: fun at all. And why don't we explain to us
Speaker 2: what an Asian needleiot? I hope I never run into one. Yeah, yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: they're the more prevalent in our world than maybe I
Speaker 2: realized tell us about them.
Speaker 3: Yes, So the Asian needleland was that it was actually
Speaker 3: first discovered in Georgia back in the nineteen thirties and
Speaker 3: couple of surrounding states. It was pretty well established at
Speaker 3: that time, but specimens started showing up in natural history museums,
Speaker 3: and so for the longest time, well since the thirties,
Speaker 3: nobody was It really didn't garner a lot of interest
Speaker 3: till probably twenty five years ago several scientists from Clemson
Speaker 3: University started working on its biology and ecology. And what
Speaker 3: really brought the latest notoriety of this critter is that
Speaker 3: in my job Dan, I interfaced with the public quite
Speaker 3: a bit, and last year I got several, I'm probably
Speaker 3: three or four cases where homeowners had contacted me here
Speaker 3: in Georgia who had been stung by this ant and
Speaker 3: wound up in the hospital with anaphylaxis and nearly died.
Speaker 3: And when I hear that that that's a trend to me.
Speaker 3: So the folks at Clemson kind of they they sounded
Speaker 3: this alarm ten years ago, but it really if you
Speaker 3: talked to an entomologists in the southeast and probably up
Speaker 3: and down the East Coast, you'll find people who have
Speaker 3: held who have encountered cases where you know a client
Speaker 3: has had anaphylaxis.
Speaker 2: So so we have ants up here. I'm not an entomologist,
Speaker 2: but I'm aware of my surroundings. And we have black ants,
Speaker 2: and we have red ants, and I guess they are
Speaker 2: a carp ther ants, and you know, more a variety
Speaker 2: of species. But where the heck did this species come from?
Speaker 2: And why is it all of a sudden after having
Speaker 2: been fairly stable in one area of the country. Not
Speaker 2: that we want to keep them in Georgia, but they
Speaker 2: end up Are they in New England as well? At
Speaker 2: this point?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are reported cases of them in New England
Speaker 3: all the way up the east coast. So my hunch
Speaker 3: is that they're probably not as widely distributed in New England,
Speaker 3: but they have been reported from several several states in
Speaker 3: New England. So the areas that are characterized where you
Speaker 3: find this ant, it's going to be hardwood areas with
Speaker 3: a kind of open understory underneath the hardwood, so oak trees,
Speaker 3: oak areas, spices like that, and it's I think the
Speaker 3: reason why it hasn't garnered a lot of tension over
Speaker 3: all the years is because it's just it's a three
Speaker 3: sixteenths of an inch kind of boring little ant that
Speaker 3: crawls around on the on the surface of the sidewalk
Speaker 3: and nobody really pays attention to it until you're working
Speaker 3: in the garden one day and you get stung by it,
Speaker 3: and if you if you are susceptible to anaphylaxis, you
Speaker 3: can wind up in the hospital. So it's it's one
Speaker 3: of these things that we're what we're telling people is
Speaker 3: learned to identify it. And if you you can go
Speaker 3: to your county extension agent you could probably send them
Speaker 3: to you mass Amherst and get them identified if you so,
Speaker 3: if you know what it is, you can you can
Speaker 3: kind of avoid it. But it and identification is really
Speaker 3: not for the novice. You can take a good picture
Speaker 3: of it, send it to U mass somebody there can
Speaker 3: identify it, and then you have at least your you're
Speaker 3: armed with the with the evidence. They either have it
Speaker 3: or you don't have it on your property. That's important.
Speaker 3: That's step number one.
Speaker 2: Okay, are they pictures of the Internet so someone could google,
Speaker 2: you know, and not wait for the ad to appear
Speaker 2: and get a picture. Are they reddish are they. What's
Speaker 2: the coloration.
Speaker 3: They're kind of blackish brown, about three sixteen seven ants inch.
Speaker 3: But they don't they don't crawl. They don't they don't trail.
Speaker 3: So you'll see them crawling and they look like they're lost.
Speaker 3: They'll be all by themselves and they'll just be crawling
Speaker 3: on the substrate. They kind of look harmless. And there's
Speaker 3: a there's a website called Ants of the Southeastern US.
Speaker 3: If you google that, there's some really great images of
Speaker 3: the of the Asian needlelant on that website. You know,
Speaker 3: the good thing about this and is it does not
Speaker 3: come inside like many pest ants that come inside and
Speaker 3: come after your dog food or cafood. This critter tends
Speaker 3: to stay outside. And the thing about it is it's
Speaker 3: most abundant during the time when we're outside doing our thing.
Speaker 3: You know, we're working in the garden and that kind
Speaker 3: of thing. So when I'm when I'm here and I'm
Speaker 3: working in the garden, if I pick up something that's
Speaker 3: laying on the ground, I look at it, I look
Speaker 3: underneath it, because that's what they like to do. They
Speaker 3: like to live in underneath patio stones and and and
Speaker 3: logs that are laying on the ground. That's their favorite place.
Speaker 3: And so we try to get people to clean that
Speaker 3: stuff up and keep your firewood piled up off the
Speaker 3: ground so it doesn't so it doesn't get wet. They
Speaker 3: really like wet wood.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, it's amazing that these these invasive species.
Speaker 2: I assume this is all because we're doing more international
Speaker 2: trade in the twentieth century than we did in the nineteenth.
Speaker 2: And we're doing more international trade. This must be an
Speaker 2: offspring of international trade. Not only just these needle ants,
Speaker 2: but also the longhoined beetle and the juro spider and
Speaker 2: the lantern fly. And is that a safe assumption that
Speaker 2: I'm making.
Speaker 3: My way off is that now that's safe. International commerce
Speaker 3: is the way these things move around. So, as a
Speaker 3: graduate student that was working on the Port of Savannah
Speaker 3: is one of the busiest ports in the US, and
Speaker 3: so he was looking at the ants associated with the
Speaker 3: Port of Savannah several years ago. He identified forty three
Speaker 3: species of ants on the port, and a third of
Speaker 3: them were not native to the US, so they weren't
Speaker 3: highly invasive, but they were not They were what we
Speaker 3: call exotic. They're from a different from a different land,
Speaker 3: and they had just established on the port and we're
Speaker 3: doing their thing along with all the native ants. But
Speaker 3: a third of the a third of the fauna ant
Speaker 3: fauna on the port was was were exotic ants.
Speaker 2: And I'm assuming that these never go extinct, correct, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know we always hear about the bald eagles going
Speaker 2: extinct or whatever. You know that these beautiful creatures, but
Speaker 2: any chance like they go extinct at that point.
Speaker 3: No, No, the e word eradication is not used by entomologists.
Speaker 3: That they don't. That's a bad word in entomology because
Speaker 3: once once a critter gets established somewhere, it's really hard
Speaker 3: to eradicate. You can manage it, and that's what we
Speaker 3: recommend is if you're thinking about this ant on your
Speaker 3: property or other of you have other pest problems, call
Speaker 3: your local pest control company. But uh, eradication is a
Speaker 3: bad word.
Speaker 4: You you you.
Speaker 3: Can, you can them down but and keep them at
Speaker 3: a smaller population level. But eradication is not not really
Speaker 3: not really possible in most cases.
Speaker 2: I mean most people will say that it's it's even
Speaker 2: a horrible species. Every species has a purpose. I'm not
Speaker 2: an entomologist, and that that most entomologists would say, even
Speaker 2: if you could eliminate a specific species, it would not
Speaker 2: be the right thing to do. Are you I assume
Speaker 2: you're in that camp, right.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing about this critter is not it's not
Speaker 3: from this It's not from North America, right, So it
Speaker 3: evolved in Asia, and so there are certain there are
Speaker 3: certain biological traits that when an invasive species comes in
Speaker 3: and it falls out of the container. Uh, there's certain
Speaker 3: invasive there's certain traits that allow it to kind of
Speaker 3: elbow its way in. And so we see that with
Speaker 3: invasive ants, especially this one when it when it has
Speaker 3: moved in and there's other invasive ants. This does do
Speaker 3: this when they move into an area, that really simplify
Speaker 3: the ecology and they can really mess up the area
Speaker 3: because one of the things they do is they drive
Speaker 3: our native ants to extinction and they dominate because they
Speaker 3: dominate the they dominate the food resources. So that's kind
Speaker 3: of the kind of the issue with invasive ants. And
Speaker 3: on top of that, this one happens to be a
Speaker 3: pretty pretty important medical past. So it stings and can
Speaker 3: put you in the hospital.
Speaker 2: Okay, So therefore it wouldn't be a bad thing if
Speaker 2: some scientists came up with a way to eliminate these
Speaker 2: or least ship them back to China.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: If we get to find a way to control it,
Speaker 3: that's the that's the golden thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, doctor Dan Souter, I enjoyed it very very much,
Speaker 2: The or Can Distinguished Professor of Urban Entomology, University of Georgia.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good football program down there. You're gonna
Speaker 2: have to deal with Belichick though, I think at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just just watch out for his girlfriends. She kind of
Speaker 2: controls the situation. You've got to know that. Thanks, docor Sooner.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it very much. Enjoyed the cover.
Speaker 3: Have a great evening.
Speaker 2: I sure will. When we come back, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk with Jonathan Lane. He's a historian, and we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about the Battle of Bunker Hill, the two
Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Hill.
Speaker 2: It's a commemorative event. It's not going to be taking
Speaker 2: place in Charlestown. It's going to be taking place in Gloucester.
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Speaker 2: All right, let us now proceed, and I'm delighted to
Speaker 2: reintroduce to you, gentlemen. Who's been a guest a couple
Speaker 2: of times with us already, Jonathan Lane. He is a historian. Jonathan,
Speaker 2: how are you tonight?
Speaker 5: Hey, Dan, Thanks very much for the opportunity. It's a
Speaker 5: good year, the two hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the good thing about it is we're just
Speaker 2: starting it when you think about it, and we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about the Battle of Bunker Hill. Now. The
Speaker 2: actual date for the Battle of Bunker Hill, I think
Speaker 2: is June nineteenth. Is that not correct? June seventeenth, seventeenth, Okay,
Speaker 2: I knew it was one of those. That's okay, June seventeenth.
Speaker 2: So this event is going to be held on that
Speaker 2: day or will it be held on the weekend prior to.
Speaker 5: Well, we actually have a whole ten days worth of
Speaker 5: events that people can attend, both in the neighborhood of
Speaker 5: Charlie Town in Boston and also of course culminating in
Speaker 5: the sort of grand scale reenactment that's going to happen
Speaker 5: up in Gloucester on the twenty first and twenty second.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the dates we're talking about is a Saturday
Speaker 2: and Sunday. That's where I got confused. Four.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for the reenactment, that's true. But events actually have
Speaker 5: already started this week in Charlestown and.
Speaker 2: They're on Yeah, go ahead, Oh.
Speaker 5: It's you know, it's absolutely amazing. So the City of
Speaker 5: Boston archaeologist has been trying to uncover remnants of the
Speaker 5: town of Charleston, which of course was entirely destroyed during
Speaker 5: the battle and four hundred and five hundred houses, and
Speaker 5: the archaeology he's doing is really helping us to understand
Speaker 5: the lives of the people who lost everything in this battle,
Speaker 5: even if they weren't actually on the battlefield. So there's
Speaker 5: continuing work being done on that. We've got the parade
Speaker 5: on Sunday, which is an epic opportunity for people to
Speaker 5: come out and showcase their love for this history and
Speaker 5: for the veterans who really work hard to put that
Speaker 5: event together. Actually on Saturday, of course, June fourteenth is
Speaker 5: the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States Army,
Speaker 5: and a lot of the veterans in the Army look
Speaker 5: upon Bunker Hill as their first battle, even though quite frankly,
Speaker 5: they didn't know they were in the Continental Army at
Speaker 5: that point, but they would find out soon enough when
Speaker 5: George Washington arrives to take command. So we'll be doing
Speaker 5: a lot of two hundred and fiftieth Birthday of the
Speaker 5: United States Army event since at Bunker Hill on Saturday,
Speaker 5: there's going to be a flag garden, a memorial flag
Speaker 5: garden for the thousands of men who gave their lives
Speaker 5: not just on the American side, but also on the
Speaker 5: British side. This battle was devastating to the British Army.
Speaker 5: They lost more men in this battle than they lost
Speaker 5: in any other battle during the entire eight year war
Speaker 5: for American Independence, and so we want that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they really changed the way they thought.
Speaker 2: The Gloucester event, which is going to be the following weekend,
Speaker 2: the twenty first and the twenty first and twenty second.
Speaker 2: Why is it in Gloucester and not in Charlestown.
Speaker 5: You know, any public historian, our historian of any stripe
Speaker 5: would really want to be on the hill on the day,
Speaker 5: which is why we're looking forward to the events on
Speaker 5: the seventeenth. But in reality to put on the kind
Speaker 5: of grand scale reenactment that has been planned. We have
Speaker 5: a thousand reenactors coming from all over the United States
Speaker 5: to participate in this, as far away as the Carolina's
Speaker 5: coming up to participate, to showcase not just the lives
Speaker 5: and actions of the British soldiers and the provincial soldiers,
Speaker 5: but also of the citizens of Charlestown who, as I
Speaker 5: said before, lost everything. So we we need space. We
Speaker 5: need a park with a hill that can accommodate these
Speaker 5: all of these reenactors and their camp since many of
Speaker 5: them will be camping out, And of course we needed
Speaker 5: it by the ocean because the maritime component is very important.
Speaker 5: We have four ships that are going to come in
Speaker 5: and stand in for the British navy that surrounded Charlestown.
Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, when we started
Speaker 5: looking around for spots that then Diagram got smaller and smaller,
Speaker 5: and we finally found a place at stage Fort Park
Speaker 5: in Gloucester, and they have been wonderful partners and we're
Speaker 5: looking forward to encouraging everybody to go to Charlestown, the
Speaker 5: Hill where it happened, and then come on up to
Speaker 5: Gloucester to see history reimagined or really it's.
Speaker 2: Such important history and it really does spread it out,
Speaker 2: which I think is really good. It's wonderful that so
Speaker 2: much of this people will have an opportunity to participate in.
Speaker 2: There's got to be a website that we can send
Speaker 2: people to in case they weren't taking notes during our conversation.
Speaker 5: I'm going to give you two websites. For all the
Speaker 5: events in Charlestown, definitely go to b H two five
Speaker 5: zero dot org so Bunker Hill two five zero dot org.
Speaker 5: And then for the events up in Gloucester, I commend
Speaker 5: you to Battle of Bunker Hill two fifty dot com.
Speaker 2: Sounds great, sounds great. Well, look, Jonathan, I really do
Speaker 2: appreciate you are really a compendium of information, particularly when
Speaker 2: it comes to Revolutionary war history, and there's no better
Speaker 2: person to talk to than you, So I thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us tonight, and maybe we can fit in
Speaker 2: on one other event, or maybe we can do something
Speaker 2: next week to talk about if you get a breadth,
Speaker 2: a breadth an opportunity just to take a breather, we
Speaker 2: could do something quickly in advance of the Gloucester activity.
Speaker 2: We'll see if we can work schedules that way.
Speaker 5: Okay, that would be terrific. I'd just like to share
Speaker 5: one more thing, which is that all of these events,
Speaker 5: they are trying to tell the stories of some of
Speaker 5: the underrepresented voices at Bunker Hill, so more than one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty patriots of color fought. The first indigenous
Speaker 5: person was killed at the Battle of Bunker Hill on
Speaker 5: the American side. So we're looking forward to getting people
Speaker 5: involved in all of the stories.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds great, Jonathan, we'll talk again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Thanks Dan, have a great night.
Speaker 2: You too. When we get back, right after the news,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about a short age your blood
Speaker 2: for Red Cross. This is the time of year, going
Speaker 2: into some of the bad storms of the summer season,
Speaker 2: the hurricane season. When we talk with Kelly Eisner right
Speaker 2: after the news at the bottom.
Speaker 1: Of the hour, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray
Speaker 1: on w BEZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: All Right, the Atlantic hurricane season is now underway. I
Speaker 2: think it runs June July, August, September and stops a
Speaker 2: Remember first, so far, we've been lucky, no hurricanes. We
Speaker 2: got ten days down and whatever the rest. One hundred
Speaker 2: and forty to go with me is Kelly Eisner, spokesperson
Speaker 2: for the American Red Cross here in Massachusetts. Kelly, I
Speaker 2: understand that the American Red Cross needs blood throughout the year,
Speaker 2: but apparently we're a little low right now. What's going on?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, this is that time of year where
Speaker 6: we remind people that yes, exactly like you said, hurricane
Speaker 6: season has started. It's the time of year where we're
Speaker 6: thinking about you know, summer plans, getting away, going to
Speaker 6: the Cape. You know, maybe not today with cold and rainy, but.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I know, don't remind me, Kelly.
Speaker 6: But you know in the midst of all that hospitals
Speaker 6: need blood three hundred and sixty five days a year.
Speaker 6: You know, blood has a shelf life of forty two days.
Speaker 6: So if you donate blood today, that blood will won't
Speaker 6: be able to be transiated the patient after about mid July.
Speaker 6: So we just want to remind people that, you know,
Speaker 6: as everything else is going on, as hurricanes happen, as
Speaker 6: they start to talk about hurricanes, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 6: love your ten day countdown, but you.
Speaker 2: Know that we're good so far.
Speaker 6: Exactly, it's exactly, but there is that potential. And you know,
Speaker 6: we see like last year was a really bad season
Speaker 6: for hurricanes, and what happened is when they do hit,
Speaker 6: that affects the blood supply as well, because you know,
Speaker 6: if it's dangerous to go out and give blood, we
Speaker 6: can't have our staff go out and keep running blood drives,
Speaker 6: and we wouldn't ask our donors to go out in
Speaker 6: that so it all has a compounding effect.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, there are some people in my audience
Speaker 2: who I know are dedicated blood donors. Just remind all
Speaker 2: of us, if you give blood today, when can you
Speaker 2: do it again? What is the amount of separation that
Speaker 2: you have to have between two blood donations.
Speaker 6: It's about six weeks. It's actually fifty six days exactly.
Speaker 2: Okay, well we can, yeah, we can fifty six days. Okay,
Speaker 2: Well that's actually eight weeks, so it's a little more
Speaker 2: than did make sure what division there? Okay, So sixty
Speaker 2: days whatever. Okay, are there people who really give four
Speaker 2: or five times on a regular basis per year? There?
Speaker 2: Do you have your your regular donors?
Speaker 6: There are we see donors. It's not uncommon to see
Speaker 6: people wearing five gallon or ten gallon tins every time
Speaker 6: you give. It's about a kind of blood, so you
Speaker 6: know that adds up. And if you're starting to count
Speaker 6: in gallons, it means that you're pretty regular with your appointment.
Speaker 6: But I'll do even one betther. We at our DETI
Speaker 6: Donor center and all our fixed site blood donor centers
Speaker 6: is where we collect platelets, and I will I work
Speaker 6: out of our DEBTI office and I will see the
Speaker 6: same platelets owners every week. You can give platelets a
Speaker 6: little bit more often, and I get to know people
Speaker 6: in the parking lot. I recognize their faces as they're
Speaker 6: moving in. It's really incredible you can give platelets.
Speaker 2: Is there a health benefit for the donor either who
Speaker 2: donates the blood or donates the platelet, assuming they're healthy
Speaker 2: and all of that, and they're not, you know, wearing
Speaker 2: themselves down. But is there any sort of a health
Speaker 2: benefit for the people who are generous donors?
Speaker 6: I think the benefit is more that you feel great
Speaker 6: after doing it because you're literally helping save a life,
Speaker 6: Like an hour of your time could make a life
Speaker 6: saving difference in someone's in their own health. I you know,
Speaker 6: I'm sure there's probably anecdotal stuff about you know, people
Speaker 6: giving blood.
Speaker 7: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't really know about that. I've not seen a
Speaker 6: lot of science on it. But I will say you
Speaker 6: feel good just knowing that you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 2: Now. I have a list of locations. There are six
Speaker 2: six locations here, well, there are many locations. My producer
Speaker 2: Karen Bussemi left me a list of different you know,
Speaker 2: not your permanent locations. Everywhere, everywhere from I think every
Speaker 2: town in Massachusetts and Over Danvers, Georgetown, Ipswich, Lawrence, Linfield, Merrimack,
Speaker 2: Mathu and no Report North Andover, Salem, Salisbury, Topsfield, Arlington, Burlington, Cambridge, Chelmsford, Framingham, Hopkinton, Lexington, Lowell.
Speaker 2: I feel like Gary Lapierre reading or no school announcements, Melrose, Natick, Newton,
Speaker 2: North Chelmsford, Pepperl bottom line is almost wherever you live
Speaker 2: in Eastern Well. Let me finish out here, because I
Speaker 2: was close to the end Pepperl reading Somerville, Sudbury, Tewksbury, Tingsboro, Wakefield, Waldam, Whyland, Westford, Weston, Wilmington,
Speaker 2: Winchester and Wilburn. Those are all locations in all those
Speaker 2: communities that you can go to the to the Red
Speaker 2: Cross website with Kelly. You can provide us. With the
Speaker 2: Red Cross website, you can look up and find a
Speaker 2: location close to where you work or close to where
Speaker 2: you live. This is a great list, by the way,
Speaker 2: and this is also from June sixteenth to the thirtieth.
Speaker 2: What's the website, Kelly.
Speaker 6: It's redcrossblood dot org. And because your point is a
Speaker 6: very long list, if you just put your zip code in,
Speaker 6: that'll bring up the ones that are closest to you,
Speaker 6: closest to your zip code, sorted chronologically. And I actually
Speaker 6: have to point out we also have six site donation
Speaker 6: centers in western Springfield. And today it was the first
Speaker 6: of a two day blood drive on Nantucket. Our whole
Speaker 6: I put pictures on our social There was a a
Speaker 6: very full of Red Crossers, Red crosslebontomous and truck drivers
Speaker 6: that all went out to Nantucket Island to run a
Speaker 6: two day blood drive there. And that blood drive is
Speaker 6: expected to collect three hundred units, so we really are
Speaker 6: all over the place. We try to make it as
Speaker 6: easy as possible for the donors who get their time.
Speaker 2: Were there any settings of Bill Belichick out there today,
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 6: Have heard, I think if there had been, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well he's got to get ready for the football season.
Speaker 2: Well this is broken down also folks by county, because
Speaker 2: if you know what county you're in, or just if
Speaker 2: you know where you live, Essex County, Middle Middlesex County,
Speaker 2: I assume you got Suffolk County in here as well.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so this is this is a great a
Speaker 2: great list for people to to go by. And again
Speaker 2: it's it has to make people feel better and you
Speaker 2: do get I think it's like cookies and and juice
Speaker 2: when when you're in your as you're recovering comfortably. So
Speaker 2: that alone would be enough. If an incentive for me,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's tell you for me, it's those little I
Speaker 6: used to be oreos. That was sort of my go
Speaker 6: to post blood donation snacks, but lately I've been into
Speaker 6: those little fruit snacks. They're oh I don't think they're
Speaker 6: made from fruits. They're probably all sugar, but they taste
Speaker 6: so good after Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, everything tastes better after that. Absolutely. Well, Kelly, first
Speaker 2: of all, thank you so much for being with us tonight.
Speaker 2: And I hope that people will go to the website
Speaker 2: and think about they can give blood. I assume that
Speaker 2: it's available. This is just not a money through Friday effort.
Speaker 2: There'll be some weekend availabilities as well.
Speaker 6: Yes, we do run seven days a week. We try
Speaker 6: to do some morning blood drives, some evening blood drives,
Speaker 6: just to really meet people where they're at. Make it again,
Speaker 6: make it easy.
Speaker 2: Sounds great, sounds great, Kelly, say hi to my friend
Speaker 2: Nate and Telemon was asking for them. Okay, that's Kelly's wife, Parwell.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. One of my great camera men
Speaker 2: at Channel four in another in another my prior life
Speaker 2: television he was a he's a good guy. Okay, coch
Speaker 2: He made me sitting there. All right, Thanks Kelly. We'll
Speaker 2: talk soon of the American Red Cross. That's great, all right.
Speaker 2: When we get back after the break, we're going to
Speaker 2: talk about going to talk with a woman who owns
Speaker 2: uh a gourmet butcher's shop, but it's really pronounced it's boucherie.
Speaker 2: Gourmand in Cohasset, Massachusetts, about I guess getting more women
Speaker 2: involved as butcher's something I'd never thought of. But we'll we'll,
Speaker 2: we'll fill you in with all you need to know.
Speaker 2: Coming back on night Side right after the break.
Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2: Delighted to be joined by Rosangela, Theodoro ros Angela. I
Speaker 2: hope I got the both the first and the last
Speaker 2: name pronounced correctly.
Speaker 7: Yes, you did, thank you. I'm glad, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 7: glad to be here.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you're here. Are you the owner of
Speaker 2: Theodoro's Boucherie Gourmand? Yes, for the reason I take that
Speaker 2: French class back in the day.
Speaker 5: It has you serve you purpose?
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2: You grew up on a cattle farm in Brazil.
Speaker 7: Yes, I did. That's how my father starts his life.
Speaker 7: He started his life was he barely finished fourth grade,
Speaker 7: and then he got into the cattle business. And then
Speaker 7: he built a big cattle business, over ten thousand heads
Speaker 7: of cattle there.
Speaker 2: And so now you have a very fancy butcher shop.
Speaker 2: But but boucherie gomand uh it go has it tell
Speaker 2: us about that, and then I guess there are not
Speaker 2: too many female butchers out there. I think the figure
Speaker 2: is eleven percent? Is that in this country or internationally.
Speaker 7: In this country?
Speaker 2: In this country? Okay? And so tell us about Theodora's
Speaker 2: Butchery Goman number one, and then tell us about why
Speaker 2: we don't have more women who are butchers. I when
Speaker 2: I think of every butcher shop that I've ever gone into,
Speaker 2: it's I can't think of ever having walked into a
Speaker 2: butcher shop. I've never been in your fine establishment and
Speaker 2: watched a female butcher. I've watched a lot of male
Speaker 2: butchers slice and dice, and there are artists when they
Speaker 2: you know, cut meat up and just they they're almost
Speaker 2: like magicians. Tell us about what you're doing. How we
Speaker 2: get more women involved.
Speaker 7: I grow up in the industry, so my house was
Speaker 7: full of cattle business people, and my dad had four
Speaker 7: butcher shops. That's how he started first. So that's a
Speaker 7: language I always here, you know, among my friends, among
Speaker 7: his friends. So when I moved here and I found
Speaker 7: like my son never get to know my father first
Speaker 7: and my history. So I want to him to know
Speaker 7: what was my background or my dad did through what
Speaker 7: he did, how he started. So having the butcher shop
Speaker 7: was kind of attribute to them, to my father. But
Speaker 7: also I found like going to the supermarket, going to stores,
Speaker 7: or going to other butcher shops, I found that it
Speaker 7: wasn't well thought, you know, Like I was getting meat,
Speaker 7: they wouldn't tell what it is, just tell me what
Speaker 7: kind of meat I was getting. So and then I
Speaker 7: look back at the farm at the big picture. No,
Speaker 7: there's four years back before the cattle gets to.
Speaker 5: Beat the beef.
Speaker 7: So I you know, when I eat a beef, I
Speaker 7: can tell if it's a female or how old it is.
Speaker 7: I kind of can get a sense. So when I
Speaker 7: and I found that all these four years of the
Speaker 7: farmer doesn't get translated to the end, you know, or
Speaker 7: if the customer get a meat that's not for the
Speaker 7: cut that he wants to eat, or we kind of
Speaker 7: have to explain to them, Oh, you want to for grilling,
Speaker 7: you use that kind of meat. You want for the
Speaker 7: open you use another kind. So I found that it
Speaker 7: was missing that they didn't know about what was behind
Speaker 7: and I didn't want to know the farmer hard work
Speaker 7: would not be you know well represented. Well, uh, places,
Speaker 7: why why you opened your own shop and Cohasset, Yes,
Speaker 7: it wasn't. I live in Cohasset. It's the south of Boston,
Speaker 7: like an hour and I found out here there's a
Speaker 7: lot of you know, people that go to the supermarket
Speaker 7: walk all the way down until you get to a butcher,
Speaker 7: and a butcher you just kind of just walk in.
Speaker 7: My father used to say, we need more butcher shop
Speaker 7: than pharmacy because you just go and get what you
Speaker 7: want and just cook one thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's good. Now has your dad? Is
Speaker 2: your dad still alive and has he been able to
Speaker 2: go up and visit you?
Speaker 7: No, No, my dad passed away twelve years ago, and
Speaker 7: that's why I opened the butcher shop. Yeah, I have.
Speaker 7: I have a neural in his farm, you know when
Speaker 7: he has a hat that he always wear a hat
Speaker 7: and a cowboy boots was normal, and I have a
Speaker 7: tribute to him on the wall. And I just want
Speaker 7: to just like my son when he sees that he
Speaker 7: sees you know, I'm telling the story that you never
Speaker 7: get to know my dad and also be able to
Speaker 7: tell the customers what go around the farm that they
Speaker 7: didn't get to know them. So my store has shadow
Speaker 7: that let the kids play and the set. I have
Speaker 7: some cattle prods that they play around that I have
Speaker 7: the hats that they always have something related to the
Speaker 7: agriculture that they feel connect. If you stay here long enough,
Speaker 7: are convinced to your two things, or be a butcher
Speaker 7: or be a cattle ranchers.
Speaker 2: But so you grew you grew up in Brazil on
Speaker 2: a cattle wretch, so you've been around cattle and beef
Speaker 2: and all of this your entire life.
Speaker 7: All my entire life. And then my friends and you know,
Speaker 7: I'm talking talking to them, and then my phone rings,
Speaker 7: there's a problem in the farm, or oh where's where's
Speaker 7: a cattle? A tractor fell turnover, so I need to
Speaker 7: organize to turn it over back in uh had to
Speaker 7: truck some cattle, organize everything that goes together. So they
Speaker 7: found very interesting that I, you know, managed so easily.
Speaker 7: It wasn't because I just manage it, just because I
Speaker 7: grew up watching that.
Speaker 2: Right now, you don't you don't have cattle in cohact.
Speaker 2: I assume you.
Speaker 7: You no, Okay, Yeah, I don't go in there and
Speaker 7: get them. Like today, I have to organize to get
Speaker 7: three lamps I'm getting for a Father's Day and a
Speaker 7: half cow to break down on Thursday.
Speaker 2: So where do you if I could ask, do you
Speaker 2: have to come up, like to the to the meat
Speaker 2: markets in Boston.
Speaker 7: Or somewhere to know, I go to the UH. I
Speaker 7: buy from the distributors some some you know, because people
Speaker 7: into just the normal cuts, you know, the New York
Speaker 7: strips feel less. But I also like to get whole
Speaker 7: animals because then I can't have utilize the whole the
Speaker 7: whole cut, you know, hold the whole cow and use
Speaker 7: teach more the customer. They don't get just six eight
Speaker 7: into some one kind of cut. You know, there's many
Speaker 7: cuts you can use. If you cut properly, you know,
Speaker 7: and you you know how to cook properly, you can
Speaker 7: have a very nice, you know, good steak and keep
Speaker 7: having more steak because the steak has a lot of minerals,
Speaker 7: iron and your body needs, and it's very healthy. It's
Speaker 7: not unhealthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I know that there are some people who
Speaker 2: are vegetarians and pescatarians and all of that, but I like,
Speaker 2: I'm a big hamburger guy. That's what I like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, meat is very good for you because you know,
Speaker 7: like you get you I get my memory is very good.
Speaker 7: You know, I'm fifty five and a lot of people
Speaker 7: think I'm not fifty five and I haven't done anything. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: you know it's it's.
Speaker 4: Healthy for you, good well and also help for environment,
Speaker 4: you know, because we we move the kettles and you know,
Speaker 4: the kettle comfort grass that wouldn't be able to we
Speaker 4: won't be able to utilize carries out there on the field.
Speaker 4: We don't need to make, you know, big project or
Speaker 4: a house for them to stay. They can stay there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, absolutely, there's a lot more to it. There's
Speaker 2: a lot more to it, Los angel So I appreciate
Speaker 2: I learned a lot tonight.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The owner of Theodora's Boucherie Gomand in Cohassett, Massachusetts. Boucherie Gomand,
Speaker 2: I assume is French.
Speaker 7: Correct, it's French, because I had a French friend that
Speaker 7: I get to know here in cohas it that every
Speaker 7: time I will go to her house, I will come
Speaker 7: up with a little bag and then I made it
Speaker 7: this meal and she's like, I just don't understand you
Speaker 7: coming with this little bag and you make this beautiful
Speaker 7: meal and we don't see this here. And then she
Speaker 7: kind of you know, helped push me to open. So
Speaker 7: that's like, you know, till there is my dad's Yeah,
Speaker 7: till there is my last name in Buchery Goma is
Speaker 7: a tribute to you know her that she really pushed
Speaker 7: me to do very well.
Speaker 2: People will find you, Los Angela. Thank you very much,
Speaker 2: and hopefully there will be more females joining the profession
Speaker 2: of being coming butchers. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7: Thank you. I hope you come and visit us.
Speaker 2: If I get down that way, you can. Thank you
Speaker 2: very much, Los Angela. I thank you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we are on Chief Justice Highway, like very easy
Speaker 7: to get her here on the highway.
Speaker 2: I'll find you. Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 7: So much for having us.
Speaker 2: Thank you pleasure. Thanks again. All right, we get back.
Speaker 2: We're going to go to the news hour and at
Speaker 2: nine o'clock and we're going to talk about the problem
Speaker 2: at Mass and Casts. It's been there forever they've tried
Speaker 2: to deal with it. It just won't go away, the
Speaker 2: problem of Mass and Casts. And we'll talk with the
Speaker 2: South End resident about the living in that neighborhood and
Speaker 2: it's not a place, a good place. That neighborhood is
Speaker 2: not a good place. Right now, back on nights out
Speaker 2: after this