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Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.

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Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loom, Squatching Hollers

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gotta teal the show whispers.

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Speaker 3: Creep like creature's fained out.

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Speaker 2: Every shadows got a secret to grow?

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Speaker 4: Monsters rhyme Where the stories are told?

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Speaker 5: Squatching Hollow where the legends are born?

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Speaker 4: Are they? Are they gone? Who can say?

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Speaker 2: In the hollow of the true just slips wish, huge

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footprints fade where the creek runs them A lantern sways.

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Let the search beg in rustling leaves.

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Speaker 3: But there's no one near?

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Speaker 6: Is it the wind or the beast?

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Speaker 4: You fear?

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Speaker 6: Everywhere goes a question.

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Speaker 4: Every rustle's a clue.

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Speaker 3: Spatching hollis got its eye on you.

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Speaker 4: Monsters those where the stories are told?

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Speaker 2: Swatching How where the legends are born?

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Speaker 4: Are they? Are they called? Who can see? They are

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the sure not say?

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Speaker 7: And now with your Squatching Holler hosts Roger Williams, Amanda Stowers,

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and Ashley Ramonds. Remember this podcast can be downloaded everywhere

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great podcasts are found. And now the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, is it Thursday already?

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Speaker 8: It is?

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Speaker 9: I know what a surprise. It sneaks up on us,

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doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It's Uh. We had a wild week last week and

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it took me a couple of days to get over

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that trip. We won't talk about that tonight. Maybe next

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week when Danny's with us, have some things to talk about.

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But tonight, I've been keeping up with this lady on Facebook.

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You know, all these researchers and people that get out

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and actually do this. You know that's I'll kind of

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live through them looking at some of their pictures or

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you know. And uh, I don't know much about it,

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of anything about Florida and bigfoot, I do. I do

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know that some of our friends in South Alabama say

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they kind of sometimes see two different types and different

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regions and they might think that some may be skunk

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ape you or whatever. I don't, I don't know, but uh,

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I'm so excited. Uh, y'all, we've got miss Marie Dumont.

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I'm scared the want say her name wrong. Yeah, and

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uh we're gonna bring her, bring her in and just

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let her roll because she's way more experienced than I am,

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and I really want to. I like to treat squatch

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and holler like a classroom sometimes, you know, And I

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know you do a man though, because you're always taking

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notes and you know whatever, so I've been looking for ready.

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All right, well, let's welcome in, Marie. Good, how you doing?

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If I if I say, miss Marie, it's just my

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southern things.

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Speaker 8: It's good.

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Speaker 3: We thank you for being here. You know, I've tried

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to since I started this. I tried to layer guests

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a little bit and talk about this, you know, then

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the next week.

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Speaker 8: So uh we.

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Speaker 3: I really am interested in your area because I told

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you before I've been through there and I just thought

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Florida was what we went and visited as kids, just

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one big beach, and but my wife is from there

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and I've been in the central part and now I

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get it way more farmland than I ever imagined, and

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it's actually beautiful. So just thank you for coming in.

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And I don't Amanda, I don't even know what question

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to ask her first, because there's so many there is

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a lot.

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Speaker 9: Yes, yes, sir, Well let's just start. Why don't you

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just give us a little brief introduction and of yourself,

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and I see you got your mid Florida Bigfoot research

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groups listed here on your name and stuff. So for

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those people who are not familiar with yourself, want you

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to just give a little brief introduction of yourself there.

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Speaker 8: Sure. My name is Marie Dumont, and I'm the founder

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of the Mid Florida Bigfoot Research Group and research team.

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And my research team consists of senior member Mike Aguilar, Ruby,

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Joe Brew, Christina Lawhorn, Mike's son Caitlin, and we have

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Darren William, we have hal Ryland, and we have Bob Schmeltz.

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So I have like seven people on my team right now,

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good night. But Mike is the senior member. He's been

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with me the longest, and so I've been doing this

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for I think it's about seven years now. And so

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it all started for me when I was out camping

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with some friends, probably fifteen of us in the O'Cahan

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National Forest, which is a hotspot in Florida, Yes it is. Yeah,

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of the year, when thirty in the morning, we hear

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this loud, incredibly loud and a lengthy vocalization just WHOA.

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Just sounded like the Ohio Bigfoot, how the classic one

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that everybody seems to know about. It was close, I

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would guess, maybe half a mile away. I don't know,

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but we all, you know, like deer in the headlights

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were like, holy crap, what was that? But I was

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never really a believer in bigfoot. I had some friends

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who were. I've been a paranormal paranormal researcher and together

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for over thirty years. So it started out with those

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hunting and aliens and UFOs, and then it ev evolved

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into bigfoot.

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Speaker 3: Well, I know, the difference between here and recording and

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being there when it happens is way different.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever like combine your paranormal research experience with

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the big footing like different?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 9: What do you call it?

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Speaker 3: Equipment or whatever? We've we've measured energies and areas and ah,

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sometimes it seems like there's a correlation between higher energy

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and the actual hotspots. But I'm gonna have to get

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some equipment because we're kind of getting deep into that now.

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Speaker 8: I don't you know, I'm a bigfoot researcher. I am

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doing That's what we do. We're not investigators, okay, but

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there are times when paranormal things happen right out there

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right that you cannot explain. And one of those spots

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for me is the Green Swamp that's in Lakelin, Okay.

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And so I've had numerous things, paranormal things happen out there.

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I've heard my voice, I mean, not my voice, my

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name being Marie, some thrown at us. We've had I

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had like a ghost figure behind me one night when

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we were sitting around doing a nighttime investigation. There was

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something someone behind me. We've had other EVPs happened. One

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of the strangest things that's ever happened, this happened twice.

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Is We're out, you know, doing field research, and I

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see an X, big X, right. So I walk up

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to the X, and I hear my phone's in my pocket.

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My phone is password protected locked, right, and I hear hello, Hello, Hello,

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and I'm like, what is that. I whipped out my phone.

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It's an ex boyfriend as I'm walking up to an

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X structure.

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Speaker 9: Okay, that's definitely interesting, right.

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Speaker 3: Wait. The reason I covered my mouth was you probably

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haven't heard some of my stories. I had my phone

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in my pocket, it wasn't open, we weren't talking, and

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we found a tree break that it was shouldn't been

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that shouldn't have been there. And when I stepped past it,

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my phone said I don't quite understand then we had

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a roster on that. I'm like, but anyway that I'm like,

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oh my god, So but here, here's where I'm at.

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I don't know where everybody else is at, but I

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feel like some of these areas attract different things maybe,

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you know, could be with bigfoot or whatever. It may

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be the all the courts that we have in these

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areas and other things. But we've we've seen and heard

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and found evidence in these areas. And then you'll see

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an orb every now and then, or you'll see something strange.

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but we say all the time, you know, some of

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this supernatural stuff is just natural for the earth and

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for a lot of the geology. I guess so around

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running water and it releases negative eyes and all that.

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What this has done for some of us is I've

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learned more about nature and just natural things since I've

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been doing this. And so I mean, and I know

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your area is a lot different, uh, y'all don't have

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some of the same makeup we do.

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Speaker 8: But what.

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Speaker 3: How do you pick an area? I know you may

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get a report or somebody tell you, how do you

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what do you look for first in Florida for a

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possible area that you could research.

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Speaker 8: Let's see, Well, right now we have an extreme drought

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going on, right, so of course the places you want

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to go are waterways because the swamps are all dried up.

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to the rivers. You know, all the creeks are dried up, almost,

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swamps are dried up. It's really bad. It's really really bad.

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be waterways, right. So, like Mike is very good at

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locating new spots, very dense you know, where's a lot

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of trees where there it's off the beaten path, away

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from the typical you know, parks and things. So he's

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very good at locating locations like that. And he's in

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a very good area. He lives a little further north

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than I do. I'm in Tampa. He lives further north.

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He's in an area there's a lot of caves, hello, right,

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that you're talking about, So there's he's had two sightings there,

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and but of course same thing. Right, it's hot here,

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best place to hide is in a cave, Right, it's

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going to be cool. There's always water in them typically,

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and so he's had a lot of success recently in

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those kind of areas. So, but I like the swamps.

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I like, that's just me. I'd rather be in a

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swamp than in, uh, the woods. Basically, it's just it's

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a lot more interesting, it's a lot creepier, and I'm

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all about creepy stuff. So you know, the creeper of

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the place, the better.

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Speaker 3: And that's a good point, you know, we talked about

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different areas. I would be so lost and probably wouldn't

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see anything because I'm looking for snakes and other creaters

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that want to bite take a chunk out of me.

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the Pacific Northwest or you're in Arkansas or Appalatchi or whatever.

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have to be somebody to know about Bigfoot, but the

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other things in the area be safe. About it.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely I would.

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Speaker 3: I would go with your group and be feel confident

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you're gonna keep me out of trouble. But I just

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wouldn't run into a swamp. I'm not doing it. I

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know what would happen.

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Speaker 8: Well, when I started big footing, I went by myself

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once and all that stuff.

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Speaker 9: And that's very brave. I couldn't do that.

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Speaker 8: Pretty stupid, but it was. It was great. But we

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wear snake snake bite boots, you know, basically knee high,

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so because that's just one last thing to worry about.

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and water moccasons, right, you know, you don't want to

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encounter any of those, so you don't want to spend

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your time watching the ground.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 8: The boots give you security, right you know, maybe you know,

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hopefully they'll work, maybe they won't, but at least I'm

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wearing them right, right, and.

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Speaker 9: Just definitely better to err on the side of caution,

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as they say, Oh.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely. But yes, I love the swamps definitely. I

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loved the whole It's just creepy. It's just water and mud.

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I love mud obviously for print. So swamps are a

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great place to look for footprints.

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Speaker 3: Down here, I know the place that you're going. In

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a few months, we found tracks, several people I know

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who found tracks, And what they seem to be doing

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when the water gets lower is get the fresh water,

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muscles ye have you and you'll find stacks like they'll

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carry them up in the woods and then eat them

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and leave the shells like you know, fifty yards or

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better up in the woods. Have you found anything like

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that where they may eat some kind of water?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we there is like muscles or you know,

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kind of you'll find along the river, like outside of

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Tampa Hillsboro in Hillsboro County in the swamps. There's also

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some rivers back there and you'll see you know, stacks

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and stuff like that. But it could be raccoons.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're not saying everything is exactly Oh, that's

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exactly right. And that's the thing. If I was to

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find one or two shells, you know, I'm like, oh,

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that's probably a raccoon. But if you find like, you know,

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fifteen or twenty of them, now the possibility the raccoon

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could be going each night and bringing one to a spot.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 3: But I kind of think raccoons wash them off and

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need them right there. But I have to check into that.

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But you're right, everything's not bigfoot. And that's that's one

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of the hardest things for a new person, like especially

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if they don't have any experience in the woods at night,

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and you came along. You already had that experience from

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the other investigation, and it's and you learn also that, yeah,

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you might see an animal and you know what sound

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it makes, but it may make twelve other sounds too,

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you don't know about, right, and and in the dark, yeah,

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you can stick break you well, yeah, been there, been there.

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But some of the equipment like the thermal's cameras and

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stuff help with that. Uh, we saw I think it

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was there were three wolves. Uh, they're way away from us,

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but I was glad to just to know they're over

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there so that you can kind of check your surroundings.

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Let's get into some of She was nice enough to

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send us some pictures and and I will what I'll

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do is I probably don't have them in any particular order.

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Speaker 8: Probably no, So trying to explain we're looking.

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Speaker 3: At well, let's let's start with some of the ones

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you have labeled. Tell us what we're looking at here?

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Speaker 8: See here, let me see where it's at.

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Speaker 3: It's so freaking hard to see human he averages fifty

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to one microns.

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Speaker 8: Yes, so see where the magnifying glasses. You can just

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make out there's a hare. There's a very long hair

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by the next to the magnifying glass, ten and a

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half inches long. Wow. That was a hair that Bob

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found in a active research area where we have had

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all kinds of activity act. And he found that on

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a dead, a fallen tree that was about three and

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a half feet off the ground. But there was one

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section of the tree where the bark was looked like

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it was torn off, so it looked like something was

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passing through there, passing over the log, climbing, you know,

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jumping over it, climbing over it. A human wouldn't do

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that because the tree was only like, I don't know,

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ten feet long, So a human would have walked around

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this dead tree. It would not have tried to climb

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over this dead tree. And so this was embedded. It

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was wrapped up in the bark on the edge where

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that part was ripped up. I don't know how the

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heck he saw that, and he pulled the thing out

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and I'm like, holy crap, it's not the black black.

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That's like some kind of you know, moss from the tree.

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But very faintly you can see a very long hair

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right where the magnicue glasses. And we sent it to

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our friend Brian Terrell, he's with Red Cryptids out of Oklahoma,

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and he analyzed the hair for us, and it does

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not have a medula. The tip of the hair is broken,

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you know, like human hair would be good a clean

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cut on it. We cut our hair. Obviously, Bigfoot Stone

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cut their hair, so it's very well possible that there

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at the end of their hair would have split ends.

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Speaker 3: Or it would be jagged and normal, normal wire from

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you know, scratching their back or like you said, walking

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under logs, or just getting broken and brittle at the end.

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Is this other hair picture to kind of.

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Speaker 8: Go with that? Then well, let me see what Okay, Yes,

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that's the tip.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's the tip.

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Speaker 9: Oh wow, So.

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Speaker 3: Would you call it I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it does not have a Medulla's interesting at all.

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And the color was like reddish reddish light brown in color.

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It's very similar to human hair. I mean, it has

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most of the characteristics of human hair.

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Speaker 3: But except the thickness, Yeah, except for well it's very thin.

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Speaker 8: It still falls in the human hair category. But the medulla,

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you know, and the broken tip is.

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Speaker 3: Uh very tall.

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Speaker 8: Was very interesting, you know. And in the same area,

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team member Bob also had mind speak there. We have

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found these strange weavings in trees, which I say, you

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pictures of those and there that's one of them.

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Speaker 9: Oh wow, that one's very interesting.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, look at that thing. That thing is tied. Those

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are ferns.

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Speaker 3: They's woven and tied together.

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Speaker 8: Taken off the ground because on the ground this area

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has it's a swamp. It's all dried up, but it

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has ferns and it has this long grass and there

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are these We found this one area where there's like

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twelve or thirteen of these.

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Speaker 9: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: That's that's intricate. I mean, I couldn't do I couldn't

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do that.

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Speaker 8: Now it's tie. Look at that thing that.

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Speaker 3: Is it's pretty Actually I wouldn't say that. I take

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my man card away from it. But it's uh. We

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have friends, Uh, we have one friend in South Alabama

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that saw one close to his home that had something

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similar to this, but it was around the neck and

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then where you're going. In a few months, they have

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found what they call reefs. It's, of course it's a

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lot bigger than this here, but it's very similar.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, these these are approximately five and a half

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feet high off the ground, and like I said, there's

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like twelve or thirteen of these in this one area.

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You can look at the other pictures too, but that

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that's my favorite one because it's tied this area where

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this was found, it's private property, no hunting allowed, it's

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in the green swamp area, and it's we were just

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blown away by this. We're like, what is this?

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Speaker 9: What are we?

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Speaker 8: Where do we come to? What?

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this are the others? Are they

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the similar height off the ground And they're all.

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Speaker 8: Around somewhere around five and a.

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Speaker 3: Half to six feet So you're thinking the same individual

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probably is doing this right and.

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Speaker 8: These are like, you know, I don't know, fifty feet

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away from each other. They're all in this one area

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and I mark them on GPS and it forms a trail.

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Speaker 9: Ah, that's really interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was wondering if it was some kind of

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marker leading to like water or danger. We've seen things

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where we're trying to figure out what some of the

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breaks mean, you know, and we're starting to find in

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our area that if there's a new tree stand or

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a new hunter or a water source, a lot of

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the breaks are in there in a way, maybe a

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warning sign, or it could be a good thing, like hey,

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come this way, but that you know what, what animal

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do you know of that could do that besides a human?

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Right so, and I couldn't even do that.

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Speaker 9: Definitely something with a posable thumbs to be able to

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do that up, to tie that up like that.

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Speaker 8: The others if you look at the other pictures, I

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don't know, they're just like hanging in the on branches.

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They're on little trees. Like there's another one that's grass

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that is mar I just said that there's long grass

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on them. This was pulled out of the ground and

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hung up. You'd see the rooms right there in the middle.

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Speaker 3: You know what it reminds me of. It just hit

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me when we used to years ago, when I was

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a kid, we my uncle had acres and acres of

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tobacco and then they had like cayenn pepper stuff like

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that that they would pull up and hang up and dry.

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And maybe I just meet throwing up against the wall.

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As soon as I saw this, it looks like it's

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carrying out for some other purpose. Maybe you know so

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I don't know that, but that's what popped into my

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head because it's spaced out. It's not like all on

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top of each other. It's kind of where the air

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could hit it.

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Speaker 8: And some like this one, like the full plant was

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taken out of the ground and hung up. The other ones.

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If I think there's some other pictures I sent you,

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that's another one. Look at that thing that is ferns,

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and that one is it's about five feet off the ground,

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but little work of art. Look at that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's neat.

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Speaker 8: It's you know, you see the ferns on the ground

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right right, So whatever did that broke a bunch off

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and just wove them, tied them or just full of

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them in half and hung them in these trees. It's

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the craziest thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 9: It looks almost like I can't tell if they've been

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there so long that they've dried and they've lost the leaves,

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or did they pull the leaves also, And that's just

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the stems layer, yeh, Because you could tell the mass.

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Speaker 8: It looks like and some of the leaves have fallen

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off because they're ferns. But yeah, we're in the middle

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the cluster that still has leaves in it.

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Speaker 3: I'm making a note. I want to look at the

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nutrients and a fern because this also reminds me of

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how we used to do hey, you know, for later

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for hard times. And this is off the ground where

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the little critters can't eat it. And like I said, speculation,

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but you got to think there's a purpose for this.

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And I'm going to check into that and see what

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kind of animals eat ferns or if they don't, I

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don't know. That's stuff like this blows my mind because

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the only time I've ever seen anything similar to this

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was when a creek got up or or a river

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got up and you have that debris tangled in. That's

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not happening here. It's obvious that that's not.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's good catch. Who found that?

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Speaker 8: Oh? Just once we found I found the first one,

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and I actually we harvested it and I have it

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here at my house. It was a small it was

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on a there was grass that was tide and it

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was on a little tree that was about four feet high,

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and so we took the knife and we collected it

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and took it home. So I have it here at

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the house. That was the first one we found. This

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one was probably twenty feet away from that one, and

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the one the first one I showed you with the

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words tide, that was also about fifteen feet away from it. Yeah,

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all the area. What's super interesting because we keep going

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to this area looking for more, you know, just because

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we're following this path. We're trying to see if there

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are more along the path. And what we started to

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notice is this area also has the most deer rubs

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I've ever seen. We have seen at least eighteen deer

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rubs near where these are at.

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Speaker 3: That's I love stuff like this because anything out of

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the norm maybe a clue and I want to figure

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it out now, but I know it's I'm not going

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to be able to my mind to be racing. Thank you, Mary, Marie.

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I'm sorry. Yeah, I'll be thinking about that tonight.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So is this something similar here?

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Speaker 8: No? Okay, so the first time I ever went down

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to the Everglades, this is the Everglades turnmouth skullcapes, right,

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and so not saying this is what it is, but

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dog gone. It sure looks like it. And so I'm

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walking down this trail in the Everglades and it's a

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high trail, dry so you can easily walk, you know,

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and then you got water on both sides of the trail, right,

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And so I'm walking along and everything's great. Had a

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EVP experience there also, And I look up at the

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trees as I'm walking and I'm like, whoa, what is that?

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And this was probably about eight feet away from the

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dry trail. It was over water. It looks like a

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freaking hammock. This thing is jiging.

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Speaker 9: That's exactly what it looks like to me.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering how strong it was.

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Speaker 8: Oh, that's vines. Those are all vines, and one of

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those vines will trip you and you won't be able

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to break it. And that's like, that's like thousands of

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vines right there, right at least ten feet long and

473
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,559
about eight feet wide. It's the perfect place for a critter.

474
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: To ambush, to get out of the.

475
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,119
Speaker 8: Wall, to take a nap, to sleep at night, or

476
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,680
to watch what's going down the path right the dry trail.

477
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,640
So of course wildlife, dear rabbits all kinds of things

478
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,119
are gonna they want to get away from the water.

479
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,400
There's only so many places they can go where it's dry,

480
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,119
and so they can just hang out there, you know,

481
00:31:22,359 --> 00:31:26,480
watch what goes by. So just looks like a freaking hammock,

482
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,839
and it could very well be a skunky hammock. It

483
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,440
could also be a place that a Florida panther can

484
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:35,839
also get up in and you know, lay down.

485
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: From just what I see here, it looks like the

486
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:45,400
exit point is away from the trail, kind of like

487
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,960
it leans one way where something heavy has been rolling

488
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:51,000
in and out. Yeah, that's it. I mean, I don't

489
00:31:51,039 --> 00:31:55,079
know if that's just you know, an illusion or whatever,

490
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,000
but I can see where, you know, because one side

491
00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:00,960
would have to be lower than other right to climb

492
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880
in and then as if you're heavy getting in and out,

493
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,640
it's going to do that.

494
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,079
Speaker 8: So well, yeah, I mean, got this is like a

495
00:32:07,359 --> 00:32:12,440
clump cluster of trees. So skunk think about skunk ape.

496
00:32:12,519 --> 00:32:16,640
Skunk apes have long toes, so they probably have long

497
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,359
toes so they don't climb, So dunky could easily climb

498
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,440
that and get in there if it wanted to. So

499
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:25,960
reminded me of that I'm not saying that's what.

500
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I totally understand. That's like when we're throwing ideas

501
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,400
up against the wall. I have to sometimes say, now,

502
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,599
Roger's not saying that this is what, just kind of

503
00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:38,279
you know, uh, you got to think outside the box

504
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:43,440
and have an imagination sometimes to see what could be possible. Right,

505
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,960
And I know you're you know, I know how you

506
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:51,160
think you told me earlier, and we have we have

507
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:54,160
to start ruling out all these things first to get

508
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,720
down to okay, this leaves a B or C, you know,

509
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,680
and and rule out the rest of it. So it's

510
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,440
pretty interesting really because the first when you first see it,

511
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:09,680
the first thing you think when you see it is nest. Yep, right, so.

512
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:14,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, very well, could be a skuncate nest, you know,

513
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,039
very well could be this thing, like I said, ten

514
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,680
feet by about eight feet wide. It's big, definitely big.

515
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,599
Speaker 3: If I double up on the pictures, I'll click off

516
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,359
of it real quick.

517
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 8: Oh no, wow, that's the one I have. That's the

518
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,920
one I collected. Wow, this is a four foot tall tree.

519
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,119
And look how something wrapped the grass, the long grass

520
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:38,680
around it.

521
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, that would definitely.

522
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,599
Speaker 8: That's the one I have in my other bedroom right.

523
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: Now, that's definitely not a natural accident.

524
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:51,519
Speaker 9: That well, that's what I'm sitting here thinking of anything

525
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:56,279
that you try to Yeah, you can see besides a

526
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,200
human or something. Yeah, to do that to we've been

527
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,240
around h yeah.

528
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 3: So this, uh the tree and the sticks? Are those

529
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:07,440
sticks inserted and then tied on?

530
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 8: No, that's the tree.

531
00:34:09,079 --> 00:34:10,679
Speaker 3: That's the tree. How it's it grows.

532
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 8: It's a little slaperss tree.

533
00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's yea.

534
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,159
Speaker 8: Yeah. Look how's the grass right there at the top

535
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,360
is wrapped around it?

536
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: Right? And yeah, that would freak me out a little bit.

537
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,719
But but the thing is you're marking these things and

538
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,800
you're you're creating a database, yes, and then it you know,

539
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,079
and trying to figure out what they are. But uh,

540
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:38,760
actually there yeah, I ain't gonna say it again. I

541
00:34:39,079 --> 00:34:40,280
like them. I just put it that way.

542
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,159
Speaker 8: Like I have. Do you know Thomas see it over

543
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,559
in the Pacific Northwest?

544
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,159
Speaker 3: I talked to him a few times, yes, ma'am.

545
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, And he I asked him, I said, what could

546
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,119
this possibly be? And He's like, I don't He really

547
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:04,480
didn't know, but he was going to ask some of

548
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:05,760
the elders.

549
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 3: To see what possibly.

550
00:35:07,199 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, and some of them are like, well, you know,

551
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,079
it could be medicinal or whatever, but none of them

552
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,679
had ever really seen anything like that before.

553
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: Was that the same distance off the ground approximately as

554
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:19,039
the others.

555
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 8: Well, that's the shorter, that's the smallest one shorter.

556
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,119
Speaker 3: Okay.

557
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:28,159
Speaker 8: The whole tree is four feet so that where that

558
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,920
grass is is about three feet, right. But if you

559
00:35:33,039 --> 00:35:35,159
go to the next picture, that's Bob, that's where he

560
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:35,840
found the hair.

561
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: Okay, this is.

562
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,679
Speaker 8: Looking at there. That's where he found the hair, and

563
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:51,159
it was on top, it was embedded in the bark.

564
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,920
It was so something the hair because it's ten and

565
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,639
a half ins just long. So it was on the

566
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,400
top of the bark, right on the edge you see

567
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,239
where it's roughed up, and then some of the some

568
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,159
of the hair was actually underneath the bark.

569
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: Okay. So a lot of people, you know, they're like, okay, well,

570
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,159
why why would an animal go over that when it

571
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,239
might be easier to go under it. But I've seen

572
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,960
animals all my life, hunting and out doing things, react

573
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:24,400
to pressure in some weird ways and do things they

574
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:30,159
don't normally do. So to me, like an explanation. You know,

575
00:36:30,599 --> 00:36:33,159
throwing things against the wall. If I saw this, I'd

576
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:36,679
be like, well, somebody might have come up and ran

577
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,199
it off, and it jumped over this thing and you know,

578
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:43,360
got some hair hung in the bark or whatever. Yes,

579
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,800
because it clearly nothing's been going under it, because you

580
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,760
can see the extra the extra branches and everything are

581
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,039
still intact. Yes, that's wild.

582
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 8: That's where he found the hair.

583
00:36:56,039 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 3: So this to his left, that is that natural. Those

584
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,280
that material there that plants their airplants. Okay, see, see

585
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,760
we're learning. I didn't know anything about this.

586
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 8: And on some of the logs, well actually, okay, if

587
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,079
you're looking at this picture of Bob, you look on

588
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:25,480
the left corner where his shoulder and that piece of

589
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:28,000
what you see some of the air plant is sitting

590
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:32,599
on top of those were pulled apart and laid there.

591
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:34,519
Speaker 3: Huh.

592
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:36,639
Speaker 9: Okay, that's interesting.

593
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:40,039
Speaker 8: So something took you know, you can see the airplants

594
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,360
hanging down, you know, you can see it over on

595
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,400
the right hand side. You can see someone underneath. But

596
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,840
right there on top of that, something ripped off some

597
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,039
of the airplants and just laid it right there. And

598
00:37:55,159 --> 00:37:57,159
that's exactly where he found the hair.

599
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:04,199
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Thank you, thank you for sharing these, because

600
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:06,599
I mean, I may not ever make it down there,

601
00:38:06,639 --> 00:38:08,960
and I love I love seeing different terrain.

602
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 8: Yeah.

603
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,639
Speaker 3: Now I have seen some of the trees here, but

604
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,239
they're around water, you know, a couple of hours from me,

605
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:18,800
so I've never seen anything like that.

606
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 8: Mm hmm. Yeah. So there was another log that we

607
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:29,159
found Mike. Mike and Christina found in another spot, same area.

608
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,519
I was over moreover on the left hand side, where

609
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:37,400
again something took the airplants and just rip them apart

610
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,480
and laid them all out across the log. It looked

611
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,039
like they were doing arts and crafts or something. It

612
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:49,800
was weird. It's like, what is this, something like fiddling

613
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,199
with this carry.

614
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 3: Had I had a friend that was in the Pacific

615
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,280
Northwest for the first time, and he came up on

616
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,000
some logs and a stump and it looked like something

617
00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:07,719
was making uh things art out of mud. But they

618
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,679
found tracks, they found handprints and all. And you got

619
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,360
to think, you know, you see you see animals playing

620
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,679
and all. If you if you've got the thumbs, you know,

621
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,440
and you can you know, intelligence to actually make art

622
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:27,000
or make signs or that's got to be some of

623
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:31,719
their entertainment. I would think, Uh, it's like we said,

624
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,239
we don't know what it is, but it looks like

625
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,280
some of these things you're showing us. It might have

626
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,519
a function, but it looks like they pay attention to

627
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,800
detail also, which that blows my mind, the intelligence that

628
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,480
that shows.

629
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, very strange.

630
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 3: Uh let me here's here's one I haven't showed. We'll see.

631
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 8: Oh, okay, this is a fun one. Okay, there's a

632
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:02,280
story behind this. And this was gifted to me from

633
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:11,119
a fellow researcher. He used to live in north northern California.

634
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,960
He had a research team out there. He used to

635
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,760
go out all the time. Blah blah blah. He's one

636
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:23,320
of those guys that has a connection, special connection with

637
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:29,599
and so he moved to Florida. He moved over on

638
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:32,800
the east coast of Florida. He gave away all his

639
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,159
bigfoot stuff from northern California and he just figured and

640
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,760
going to Florida was nothing there, right, So this is

641
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,719
a really weird story. This is at his house. He

642
00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:49,880
has a pool in the backyard. He has two German

643
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,800
shepherds that like to go in the pool, and he

644
00:40:53,960 --> 00:41:00,519
started to notice that the dogs toys were disappearing and appearing,

645
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,320
like the balls and stuff like that. He says they

646
00:41:04,599 --> 00:41:07,440
would disappear for like a week or two, come back,

647
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,559
maybe be gone for a month, come back.

648
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,679
Speaker 9: And he was like, what the heck?

649
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 8: You know what's going on? These dogs are not they're

650
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,960
only in the yard, you know, and so but they'd

651
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,440
like to go in the pool. So what he does

652
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,800
is he cleans out the pool, he cleans out the

653
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,599
pool filter, and he pulls out the dog hair and

654
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,280
he tosses it over his fence. Right, So one day

655
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:39,639
he's going to his backyard. He opens up the gate

656
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:46,960
and right there was this. So this is something made

657
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:51,159
something out of his dog's hair. Wow, that's dogs.

658
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 9: He's realizing what it was.

659
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a ball. Something to the dog hair and

660
00:41:57,599 --> 00:42:01,199
made it into a ball. They used a piece of grass,

661
00:42:01,559 --> 00:42:05,679
long grass. Again, what do we just look at long grass?

662
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,119
Tied this together with long grass and shove the leaf

663
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:13,360
in it. This whole thing is like four inches long.

664
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 3: So what does he think about Florida? Does he does

665
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:25,760
he now know that y'all have similar creatures from where

666
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:26,280
he left.

667
00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:31,519
Speaker 8: Yes, he didn't really realize that he reached out to me.

668
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,079
He sent me the pictures and I'm like, what am

669
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:37,639
I looking at? And he's like, you don't believe it?

670
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:42,320
And so he told me the story and he's like,

671
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,039
do you want it?

672
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 9: And I'm like, oh, yeah, right, yes, please yes, So

673
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:51,039
he mailed it to me.

674
00:42:51,559 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we've all we've all heard stories of

675
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:59,440
people moving to different areas and or researchers that know

676
00:42:59,559 --> 00:43:03,440
they're really have seen them and found evidence and they

677
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,000
I hate to use this word, they feel like they're marked.

678
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,199
I feel like it might be your maybe your energy

679
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,480
where you know about them, they know you know about them,

680
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:20,719
and you care yourself different. Because your dog, my dog,

681
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,440
if I'm having a you know, if I go in

682
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:25,039
here and I'm nervous, my dog, both of them know it.

683
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,559
They're looking at me like, what's wrong, Daddy, what's wrong?

684
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:31,119
So even your farm animals, they can pick up on

685
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,400
this thing. So if something is intelligent we think they are,

686
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:41,480
they're showing more intelligence. I feel like, just from interviewing people,

687
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:47,000
from stories I've heard and my own experiences that once

688
00:43:47,679 --> 00:43:51,760
you know you don't have that fear so to speak,

689
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,840
now things can happen where it get scary, but I

690
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,079
think they might know. I know that sounds crazy. Six

691
00:43:58,159 --> 00:44:00,960
years ago I wouldn't have said that, but uh, just

692
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,920
a case like this, it might be a peace offering

693
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:07,920
or like, hey, we know you know about us, you know, yeah.

694
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,599
Speaker 8: Peace offer like thank you for letting me take your toys,

695
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:16,239
your dog's toys, right right. You know, it's just bizarre.

696
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,840
This is like super You thought the readings are bizarre,

697
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,039
this is even stranger. But that is his dog's hair.

698
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,559
Speaker 3: And the reason this doesn't surprise me is once we

699
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,400
started making structures ourselves to try to communicate, We've we've

700
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,719
been left things that I know nobody left them. You

701
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,360
know what. It's like, what in the world nobody ever

702
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,079
comes back here? Nobody knew we did this, and all

703
00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:44,679
of a sudden, this is here in a spot it

704
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,639
shouldn't be. I won't get into that, but yeah, it's

705
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,079
it's kind of cool, it's kind of maybe a little comforting.

706
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:54,119
I'm starting to get in. We're early on, I was

707
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:57,599
really afraid, and now the more I've learned and how

708
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:01,159
to responds, it's kind of calmed me down. I don't

709
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:04,679
know if that makes sense or not, but yeah, all right.

710
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 8: See now Okay, so these are these two are out

711
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,559
of order, but I'm gonna tell you about this.

712
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 3: Do you want me to go to the other one first?

713
00:45:13,559 --> 00:45:15,239
I can move, yeah, to.

714
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 8: The other one.

715
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,039
Speaker 3: All right, okay, all right.

716
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 8: So twenty twenty three, in May, I was in the

717
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:29,639
swamp stride up with team member Ruby, and I love

718
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,760
the swamp. This is one of my favorite ones. I

719
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,239
love to go into because I've had some other weird,

720
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:40,159
strange things happening there. And so we're walking around and

721
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,119
I find this, and I'm like, what the heck is this?

722
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,800
This is a standing square structure.

723
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, the points on the bottom right laying down.

724
00:45:55,519 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 8: This is standing up, leaning up against those two cypress trees.

725
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 3: Right, that's kind of hard to do, yeah, you think. Yes,

726
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,480
I'm sitting here, I'm thinking how I could do this,

727
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,639
and I don't know how I'll get that top one

728
00:46:12,199 --> 00:46:12,679
to stay.

729
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 8: Yeah right, yes, yes. So then the following year, this

730
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,920
was May twenty twenty three, flip in the next one. Okay,

731
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:31,480
here we go February twenty twenty four, here we go again, square.

732
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,199
Speaker 9: But and this is a completely different one, completely different spot.

733
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, well completely different.

734
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 8: It's the exact same spot. It's the exact same two trees.

735
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: Oh really, yes, but yes, but hold on a second,

736
00:46:52,519 --> 00:46:53,320
I'm gonna go back here.

737
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 8: Yes, it's the exact same two trees because I took

738
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,639
like new photos and when I got back, yeah, I'm

739
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,800
looking at and looking at him like, holy crap, this

740
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:09,360
is the exact same two trees.

741
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:10,599
Speaker 9: Hmmm.

742
00:47:11,199 --> 00:47:14,119
Speaker 8: And you know this is just a little different angle.

743
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,880
You can't tell by comparing these two pictures, but the

744
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,840
other pictures you can. It is the exact same spot,

745
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:26,679
different branches. Again, a square, standing square.

746
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,519
Speaker 3: So if I was to follow this is just thinking

747
00:47:30,599 --> 00:47:33,960
out loud. If if we were to follow those branches

748
00:47:34,039 --> 00:47:37,440
to the left, what's in that direction? Is there any

749
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,320
fresh water that way, a food source or shelter?

750
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 8: No, it's just it's okay, there's nothing, nothing unusual. But

751
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,320
it's a freaking square.

752
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,559
Speaker 3: And people can look at that and say, well, that's

753
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,320
not that complicated. Will you try to do that?

754
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:54,039
Speaker 8: I can.

755
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,639
Speaker 3: I take it apart in my mind backwards in the

756
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,960
try and like, I don't know if I could accomplish

757
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:02,679
that or not out without some kind of wire nails

758
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,119
or something.

759
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 8: You know. Yeah, I mean look at that top branch

760
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:13,000
right there, Yes, yes, It's like it was perfectly balanced

761
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,440
and laid out that way. Now this year went back

762
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:21,840
to the exact same spot. There was another one, but

763
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,000
it was only three sticks, not four sticks. I don't

764
00:48:26,039 --> 00:48:29,000
know if one had fallen. I didn't send you that picture.

765
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,480
I don't know if one fell or what. But it's

766
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:38,920
the exact same two trees. I don't get that that's

767
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:43,159
just blows being way. So I had asked, you know

768
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,280
my you know, Thomas Sewood in the Pacific Northwest. I said,

769
00:48:48,039 --> 00:48:50,800
you know, I don't know, what do you think this is?

770
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:53,800
You know? And he says, you know what he goes.

771
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,079
What it really reminds me of is like a family crest.

772
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,719
You know what I'm say saying, like maybe that individual

773
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:07,880
or that clan that's the slant of their clan.

774
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:11,079
Speaker 3: Does that mean no, It definitely makes sense because I

775
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:16,280
know some researchers within an hour of here that have

776
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:22,760
told me that they will make things that will let

777
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,559
the other clans know, hey, this is our area and

778
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,760
the like if we recognize that we you know, like

779
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,679
the ax I fact, the first big ex I ever

780
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,880
found there was two dead cedar trees that had been

781
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,880
brought in from another location and placed this huge trail.

782
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,480
There was a gap in the corner of the field

783
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:46,239
where you can see it. We were there the next

784
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,639
time we came back, and I'm telling you, nobody knows

785
00:49:48,679 --> 00:49:51,800
what we're doing because we're actually hunting, so we don't

786
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,480
tell the guy that owns the place what we're doing.

787
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:57,079
He'd probably kick us off. And we're walking up through there,

788
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:59,360
and I said, you've got to be kidding me. So

789
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:02,000
I went up checked and actually I checked the first time.

790
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:04,280
I forgot. I come back and I checked the root

791
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,800
balls and they weren't like had grown there and fell

792
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,159
over accidentally. They were moved in from some other locations.

793
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,960
So I'm asking people that are more seasoned than me,

794
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,880
and they tell me like, no, they'll have a possibly

795
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,360
have a sign for their troop or whatever you want

796
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,400
to call them clan, and that's just a signal that

797
00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:26,320
And the one guy told me he said, usually the

798
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:29,920
X means to stay out. I'm like, well, we did

799
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,360
have a rock thrown at us, so I mean there was.

800
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:36,039
Speaker 8: I think there's another picture I sent, you know.

801
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:44,039
Speaker 3: But let me maybe this one. No, let's go through

802
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:49,480
them all so I'll get the right one here. No, no, no, no, No,

803
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:56,719
that's the nest. No we got one more after this one. No,

804
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,039
it may not have loaded sometimes that I have on.

805
00:51:00,679 --> 00:51:04,199
Speaker 8: All right, So all right, when we talk about like

806
00:51:05,159 --> 00:51:11,119
possible signs of the clan, there was a time a

807
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,280
couple of years ago where I was we were finding

808
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:20,199
asterisks designs laying on the ground made out of sticks

809
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,559
or the coolest one was do you know what cypress

810
00:51:25,679 --> 00:51:26,119
knees are?

811
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 3: I saw them in it early. I'm assuming they're the

812
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:30,519
little stomps.

813
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, jagged looking. They're part of the root system

814
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:39,519
of a cypress. But they're dangerous as could be because

815
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:43,360
you fall and they can impale you and it's like

816
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,280
trying to walk on a minefield out there. But the

817
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,000
very first asterisks we really found that really like whoa,

818
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:56,639
what the heck was this? Sticks were laid on top

819
00:51:57,079 --> 00:52:03,320
of one of those cypress knees, perfectly balanced, maybe like

820
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,320
ten sticks that were about four feet long three and

821
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,239
four feet long, perfectly balanced. You could touch it and

822
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,519
the sticks would move. It's like what is this? But

823
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,440
we would find them on the ground. We would find

824
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:25,320
them in different areas, different like places in Hillsborough and

825
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,840
the Green Swamp, which are still ways that they places

826
00:52:31,079 --> 00:52:34,760
that they travel through, so but we haven't found them

827
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,320
in the past couple of years. So again that could

828
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,840
have been the sight of the klan that was passing through,

829
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,039
that was living there and its movement. But we found

830
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:50,079
like eight of those in different spots, but they're.

831
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 3: Asterisks, and doesn't it it kind of you want to

832
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,039
know what it means? But how do we find out?

833
00:52:57,199 --> 00:52:59,760
You know, you have to talk to one to find that.

834
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,599
Speaker 9: It makes me think of like proto languages of things

835
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:09,719
like obviously I'm not a linguist, I don't know anything

836
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,639
about how to read any of that, but like, what

837
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,079
is it like Runic type languages where everything is made

838
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:24,559
with part so, which they say is very early type

839
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:28,719
of human language if you're going off of the evolutionary

840
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,960
theory anyways, that makes you wonder if maybe, like you said,

841
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,800
it is type of a proto communication that they would

842
00:53:38,119 --> 00:53:41,320
use with each other. So that's just my brain for itself.

843
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: And one thing that made me kind of start paying attention.

844
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,960
We have a great friend up in Ohio that's a

845
00:53:48,039 --> 00:53:53,119
great researcher and he was telling me one time, he said,

846
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,679
he said, I started testing them to them because he

847
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,519
found all of these structures at the same height on

848
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:03,000
the and so he didn't tell anybody. He still hadn't

849
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,760
told me what it was. He made his own sign

850
00:54:06,639 --> 00:54:10,239
stick stick sign, and he would every he goes in

851
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,360
every day if he can, and he walks barefoot, you

852
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,239
know whatever, and just joined nature. But he every time

853
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,760
he went in, he would make one. He said, Roger,

854
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,760
I stepped out my door one morning going to work,

855
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,519
and there's one at the bottom of my steps, exact

856
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,360
same as what I didn't live in. So yeah, I

857
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,320
got goosebumps. And I'm like, well, maybe I need to

858
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,119
pay more attention to this than what I have, you know.

859
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,840
But that's why it's good to talk to people from

860
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,239
other regions with more experience, because none of it's cookie cutter.

861
00:54:43,599 --> 00:54:47,800
It's like every time you go in, uh, every time

862
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:53,079
we go. It's not every time, but something surprising, you know.

863
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:57,320
I made an asterisk. We heard a monkey sound ten

864
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,079
minutes later. It was closer to us. I just I

865
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:03,360
had to put up a ten twelve foot X made

866
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,679
out of a real thin cedar dead falls and then

867
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,679
I put that log in the middle and I told

868
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:13,320
my son, I said, if you go back first check

869
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,239
on it for me, and I thought there was a

870
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,679
possibility of cows maybe knocking it over, you know, made

871
00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:22,639
it really tight. But I thought he was watching us,

872
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,920
and that's why I did it. And he went back.

873
00:55:26,039 --> 00:55:28,039
He's calling me. He goes video call up on the

874
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,760
hill there. He said it's gone. I'm like, oh, did

875
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,519
the cows knock it over? He said, no, Daddy, All

876
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:37,519
three of those pieces of wood are gone. And then

877
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,599
the next time is when he was left that jawbone

878
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:44,280
stuck in the trail as his So I think it's

879
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,440
kind of an acknowledgment, like I don't understand it yet,

880
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,159
But everything seemed to get calmer after we started trying

881
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,440
trying to communicate at least. And I know that may

882
00:55:55,519 --> 00:55:59,599
not make sense to a lot of people, but it's different.

883
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:05,800
It's the vocalations. Vocalizations are a little different. The encounters

884
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:09,039
are a little different. I mean, not necessarily seeing one,

885
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:12,840
but spooking one up after leaving after dark and instead

886
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,960
of running off for getting we've had them turning, huff,

887
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:19,079
growl and just stay put in the dark there and

888
00:56:19,199 --> 00:56:21,760
I just put my hands up, like we're leaving. You

889
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,119
can have the place for a few days. You know

890
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,519
and walk off. I feel like when you do that,

891
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:34,440
they're like, oh, well, I didn't scare him. But it's

892
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:37,719
an evolution. It's not the very first bunch of times

893
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,840
I went out, I was just as chicken as everybody.

894
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,280
You know, you could be every little sound. I was jumping,

895
00:56:43,559 --> 00:56:46,599
flashlight and all that. But as you go with Seizon,

896
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:51,119
people like the screams we caught last Thursday night, as

897
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:53,480
soon as they started, we all knew what they were.

898
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:57,079
Nobody panicked, nobody made a sound because we knew had

899
00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:00,159
a recorder going. We only talked if it was after

900
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,559
it was over with. Now, three years ago, I might

901
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:05,360
have been saying some ugly words and trying to jump

902
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:09,360
off the bridge, you know, But it takes a while

903
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,280
to get to a point that you know how to react.

904
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,400
I think that's important.

905
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 8: But I'm not scared. I know you.

906
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:24,719
Speaker 3: Your ghost hunter. You don't you've already I've had things

907
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:29,360
happen to me that should have been terrifying, But like

908
00:57:29,519 --> 00:57:32,639
sometimes when it happens, I don't know, if you bring

909
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:35,719
it doesn't shut down. It's just like things slow down

910
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:40,039
for me, and I'm trying to take in every little

911
00:57:40,119 --> 00:57:43,880
detailer sound. Now after I get home, I might have

912
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:53,199
to lay in the floor and cry or something, but

913
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,840
I felt like it before. I'll try to go to sleep,

914
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,559
and I'm like, why am I doing this? I already

915
00:57:58,639 --> 00:58:00,920
know the real I've seen them. Why do we keep

916
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,400
going out there? But I think it's a draw because

917
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,960
I think there's more to them than we originally thought.

918
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 8: Oh yes, you know, especially me, mystery, it's a mystery.

919
00:58:11,679 --> 00:58:16,519
I love mysteries and trying to sell puzzles, but we

920
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,639
continuously come across stuff that just blows our mind, right,

921
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:22,760
And every time you think you find.

922
00:58:22,559 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 10: It, yeah, just when you think you've kind of figured

923
00:58:25,519 --> 00:58:31,000
it out, No, something that's crazy, right, It's like, okay,

924
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:32,639
what is this?

925
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:37,119
Speaker 8: You know you can't this one out? This mystery?

926
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 3: And do you do you think it's the people like

927
00:58:40,679 --> 00:58:45,079
I've always liked, uh, mystery shows, trying to figure out

928
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:47,719
what's going to happen before it happens. I've always I

929
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,559
wanted to be a detective. When I was younger, I

930
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:52,800
worked for the Shriff's department, but I wasn't suited for that,

931
00:58:53,199 --> 00:58:57,280
And uh, do you think it's that's what it is?

932
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,440
Some of us keep going back because of that mystery

933
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:04,079
I mean, it's just it's a draw. It's like I

934
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:04,599
have no.

935
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:07,199
Speaker 8: I have no.

936
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna be the one to prove it,

937
00:59:11,079 --> 00:59:13,559
you know, I don't. That's not what we're doing because

938
00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:16,079
a lot of times now we go out, we don't

939
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:19,599
care recorders, we don't care casting material, we don't and

940
00:59:19,719 --> 00:59:24,599
it seems like we have more success when we don't

941
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:29,679
have that equipment. And we've had things happen I had.

942
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,960
I took my recorders, turned them off after about three

943
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,760
hours one night, and within twenty twenty five minutes, something

944
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,800
jumps out in the field behind us and screams. It

945
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,840
was terrifying. It sounded like a young one. I wished

946
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,840
I had it on recorder, but there were three other

947
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,679
witnesses and every one I'm gonna tell you, I've never

948
00:59:48,719 --> 00:59:51,880
heard anything like that in my life. Now. Was it

949
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:55,599
luck and timing or did it know? You know, that's

950
00:59:55,639 --> 00:59:59,159
something we don't know, but it's it's awful funny. Have

951
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,119
you had We just experienced this last Thursday. We had

952
01:00:04,239 --> 01:00:07,800
flashlights are fully charged, it wouldn't work. We had thermal

953
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,239
equipment that was glitching, but not in every spot. It

954
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,360
was glitching in some hotspots and have you ever had

955
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:17,480
any experience with failure like that?

956
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 8: Please? Do you think you're talking to so so?

957
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,079
Speaker 3: It's a real thing. I mean it's me and flashlights.

958
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:34,159
Speaker 8: Forget it. Every single time I try to use a

959
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:41,800
flashlight that's charge, a headlamp, whatever, always guys quits working,

960
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:47,400
butches whatever. Every single time, I'm like, why is it

961
01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:52,559
at night? Right? You know you need a flashlight?

962
01:00:52,679 --> 01:00:53,559
Speaker 9: You actually.

963
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,639
Speaker 3: So, y'all in the chat and people that listen to

964
01:00:57,719 --> 01:01:02,159
this tomorrow you can tell seasoned bigfoot researcher because they'll

965
01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:06,039
have like nine flashlights, an old pack of batteries.

966
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 9: What do you do that?

967
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: Another when you get stuck out in the dark doing

968
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,280
that and you got to feel your way back to

969
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,239
the truck or whatever.

970
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm like trying to follow somebody who has a

971
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:26,159
flashlight that actually works. It's like every single time.

972
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,079
Speaker 3: And it's and it's not necessarily the cheap equipment. I

973
01:01:29,159 --> 01:01:32,639
had a one hundred and fifty dollars flashlight that I trusted.

974
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,000
When I pulled it out of the truck, it was

975
01:01:36,119 --> 01:01:39,519
green because it was fully charged. The first location it

976
01:01:39,639 --> 01:01:42,199
was fine. The spot where we got the booger calls

977
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:46,000
the responses it didn't work after that all night long,

978
01:01:46,519 --> 01:01:48,760
I throw it in the truck, recharge it again, but

979
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,360
it shows green and we get on the way home.

980
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,599
I'm like, man, am I going to buy another one

981
01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:56,199
of these? And I click the button it comes on.

982
01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:00,400
I don't know, I don't know what it is, but

983
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:01,280
it's something.

984
01:02:01,559 --> 01:02:07,199
Speaker 8: Always, always, and I'm the only one. Everybody else doesn't

985
01:02:07,239 --> 01:02:10,480
have problems with their flashlights or heights, but I'm the one.

986
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,199
Every single time. I'm like, oh my god, this is so.

987
01:02:14,599 --> 01:02:16,719
It doesn't matter if it's a red one, a green one,

988
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,159
or white one, whatever, it does not matter.

989
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 3: Those oddities seem to follow me, and I started looking

990
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,639
at me more. I started looking at uh my DNA,

991
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,880
and I found out how now that the all DNA,

992
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:35,559
it's super high for like what normal people have. I

993
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:37,559
don't know what that means, you know. I started looking

994
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,760
at blood. I started looking at anything I could think of.

995
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,599
What makes this different? You know I have? I can

996
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:45,000
touch a doorknob and the neighbors can see it. Arc

997
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,800
you know. I'm like, you know, I mean, what's going

998
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,159
on with this? I can't stand it?

999
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 8: But yeah, it's pretty interesting.

1000
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 3: Well, anyway, we're iron two in I don't want to

1001
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,679
keep you too long. I really appreciate you coming by

1002
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:02,880
and with us. I've been looking forward to it. I'm

1003
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,639
sorry it took so long, but I kind of have

1004
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,079
a kind of I try to hit the southeast and

1005
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:11,760
then then reach out to the Pacific Northwest and then

1006
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,320
the northeast and you know, kind of layer it or whatever.

1007
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:18,719
And if if y'all have anything happen, you know, you

1008
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:22,440
can reach out to us and you're welcome anytime in

1009
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:26,280
any of your other research friends. You know, maybe we

1010
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,760
can do a part two and have you know, a

1011
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,320
few people on. We can bounce ideas off each other.

1012
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,079
Speaker 8: And absolutely I'd like to have some of my team,

1013
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:35,559
like Mike on with me.

1014
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,519
Speaker 3: I've seen his name. Yeah, that would be a great

1015
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,920
That would be a great show because a lot of

1016
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,199
times when you get on, after you leave, you're like, oh, man,

1017
01:03:46,239 --> 01:03:48,559
I forgot this part, which they could you know, well

1018
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,320
you forget this, you know, Yeah.

1019
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:52,599
Speaker 8: I've got a billion stories. I mean, this is just

1020
01:03:52,719 --> 01:03:56,360
a tip of the iceberg I can imagine. Well, well,

1021
01:03:57,079 --> 01:03:59,719
just I just want to say Florida's number three in

1022
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,360
the United States are the most reported bigfoot.

1023
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 9: It is and a lot of people don't realize that.

1024
01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 8: I don't realize that number one Washington, number two California,

1025
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:11,559
number three Florida.

1026
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: And and the thing is why it's surprising this because

1027
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,960
we all have that vision of Florida being, like you

1028
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:23,920
said earlier, the one big beach. You know, Worre's bigfoot. Well,

1029
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,760
there's plenty of plenty of land.

1030
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,159
Speaker 8: Oh yes, yes, they're all over the place over here.

1031
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:34,519
But there are hot spots, the Everglades, National Forests, green swamp,

1032
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,280
you know, there's some other places.

1033
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,559
Speaker 3: But you know, I was looking at a picture earlier

1034
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,119
and I'm looking in the background and there could be

1035
01:04:43,239 --> 01:04:46,039
one standing thirty five yards away and you never wouldn't

1036
01:04:46,039 --> 01:04:46,159
know it.

1037
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 4: You never know.

1038
01:04:47,159 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: Now all those big stumps and trees.

1039
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 8: And all the stumps and they're burnt. You know, they

1040
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:56,599
do control burns. So you got black stuff, lots of

1041
01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:58,800
black stuff, dark shadows.

1042
01:04:58,519 --> 01:04:59,719
Speaker 3: Perfect blending in.

1043
01:05:00,039 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, everything, you know, everything's not a big fence. You know,

1044
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:09,000
if anybody is out in the woods, they know there's shadows. Okay,

1045
01:05:09,159 --> 01:05:10,800
there's natural shadows.

1046
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: And and that's that's a good reason to if you

1047
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,360
assemble a team, have people with different strengths. You know,

1048
01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:22,679
my wife can hear a bird breaking the seed two

1049
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,719
neighborhoods over and I can't. I don't know how she

1050
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,360
does it, but she she does it. That makes up

1051
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,519
for my hearing, but my eyesight makes up for hers.

1052
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,239
So and and then you can have people from different

1053
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,400
walks of life that have different skills, uh, to assemble

1054
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:45,440
a team together. And because like you know, you might,

1055
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,639
I've may look at Mary Marie and say, well, I

1056
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,039
think that's this and no, no, no, calm down. We

1057
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,920
hear that all the time. This is what it is.

1058
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:55,840
It's it's just it's just good to have that a

1059
01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:00,760
good diverse group. So all right, y'all. I talked to

1060
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:05,639
Doug today. I'm gonna play a thirty second song clip

1061
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,079
and then a four minute and I told Mary she

1062
01:06:08,119 --> 01:06:10,440
didn't have to hang around to it. Listen to it

1063
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,920
because we got a four minute outro. And thank y'all

1064
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,920
for being here hanging there with us. Marie, thank you

1065
01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:18,639
so much.

1066
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,039
Speaker 8: Thank you for having me on.

1067
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 9: And yeah, yeah, absolutely would love to have you back.

1068
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it it's hard to get ten years worth

1069
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,360
the stories in an hour, two hours, whatever, And you're

1070
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,480
welcome back anytime. Just just keep in touch. I you know,

1071
01:06:38,519 --> 01:06:39,480
I'll keep in touch to you.

1072
01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 8: So awesome.

1073
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:44,119
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, ma'am, everybody in chat. All right,

1074
01:06:44,679 --> 01:06:47,679
all right, we're gonna play. Uh So, Doug and I

1075
01:06:48,119 --> 01:06:52,079
have y'all know we've been digging into producing music. He's

1076
01:06:52,119 --> 01:06:54,559
the producer, of course, that's what he does, and I

1077
01:06:54,639 --> 01:06:58,440
do the writing. And I'm gonna play thirty seconds of

1078
01:06:58,519 --> 01:07:02,639
one and these free on YouTube. You can find them

1079
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:08,480
on Spotify, Amazon Music. There's forty three forty three what

1080
01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:15,280
do you call it? Platforms, sixty something thousand jukeboxes right now.

1081
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,360
Some of the songs should be in any waffle house.

1082
01:07:17,719 --> 01:07:19,320
You know you're doing good when you could go into

1083
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,519
the wafle house and play a song.

1084
01:07:20,639 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 9: But yeah, you know you've made it the big time

1085
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,280
when you're played at the waffle house.

1086
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:29,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, y'all, I am going to play the thirty

1087
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:32,119
second one. Then I'm gonna play the four minute one.

1088
01:07:32,199 --> 01:07:35,320
Then we'll do the outro and you can comment or

1089
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:36,920
whatever and make fun of me if you want to,

1090
01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:39,880
that's cool during that and we'll post them all right

1091
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:42,719
here we go. This one is faced it down. The

1092
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,199
funny story about this one is Doug sometimes challenges me.

1093
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,360
He said, he'll say write a song about this, and

1094
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,480
I'll and when he does, I'll get mad at it.

1095
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:54,239
I'm like, Doug, now, I won't be able to sleep

1096
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,239
now now that you put that idea in my head.

1097
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,159
So this He did a great job on this, and

1098
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,039
this is called it Down by Eli Coulter. Just check

1099
01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:02,360
it out.

1100
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,559
Speaker 6: The bullet didn't break me.

1101
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 5: Show you you wasn't hap to be.

1102
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 4: Put a fire in my ball, didn't take my soul

1103
01:08:14,519 --> 01:08:15,000
from me.

1104
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 3: I see this feel heavy scot rules. Yeah, the damn

1105
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,039
it was done.

1106
01:08:26,039 --> 01:08:28,159
Speaker 4: But I refuse to pass it on.

1107
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 3: All right. That was just a chorus there, and I

1108
01:08:38,079 --> 01:08:40,279
wanted to reason. I wanted to do a short clip

1109
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,720
and then this one to show we're kind of trying

1110
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:45,720
to do different. We want to try to do something

1111
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,399
for everybody. So this one here, I'll tell you how

1112
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,479
this come along. Chad Black and Erica Black we had

1113
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:59,800
a great conversation at the meet and greet, and Erica

1114
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:02,239
contacted me, sh I have an idea. You know that

1115
01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:06,079
discussion we had that needs to be a song. So

1116
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:12,119
I sat down and started thinking and writing. And this

1117
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:15,439
is what comes from Erica's idea and the discussion we

1118
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:21,399
had probably Friday or Saturday night. So here we go.

1119
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 9: Lord, I didn't lose.

1120
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,039
Speaker 6: Lave night of meeting and two of the shots.

1121
01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,119
Speaker 8: N lean down one saw.

1122
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,039
Speaker 11: I ain't no trophy for the road.

1123
01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 6: I shoes just scarce and miles carrying on.

1124
01:10:11,359 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: Earned every turned thirty in the miles.

1125
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 4: Paid my dues in the dead.

1126
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 5: Now you booking now then, But I never let it win.

1127
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 4: I mighty beating me, but I didn't lose. Paid my

1128
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:42,960
dues in these one own boots. Ain't no crown gonna.

1129
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:47,520
Speaker 5: Shout mine names. But I stood in mind ground time

1130
01:10:48,079 --> 01:10:52,960
man again. I learned more from losing than I ever

1131
01:10:53,319 --> 01:10:54,239
dead win.

1132
01:10:54,239 --> 01:11:02,039
Speaker 4: It bill who have abden mile sins knocking down more

1133
01:11:02,119 --> 01:11:06,520
than once bag then, But I didn't lose.

1134
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,159
Speaker 3: A loss on It hurts if you turn away.

1135
01:11:17,239 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 11: The truth cuts deep when you choose to stay.

1136
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,239
Speaker 2: Staying average comes way too cheap.

1137
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 3: Big here for don't run that deep. I saint while

1138
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,880
they come on faint.

1139
01:11:27,119 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 5: Couldn't work without a crowd.

1140
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 4: Now no, just too, I am and I do it

1141
01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:39,680
all again, my beat man. But I didn't lose, pay

1142
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,920
my dues and least worn out boots.

1143
01:11:44,359 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 3: Hain't no crowd gonna shout.

1144
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:52,399
Speaker 12: Mind name, but I stoodn't mind my ground child man again.

1145
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 4: I learned more from losing than I ever did winning.

1146
01:11:58,359 --> 01:12:04,439
Bill who hired on my fighting mile Senn again knock

1147
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,840
me down more than on spat man. But uh.

1148
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:25,520
Speaker 3: Uh g the man I used to be hard roads

1149
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,239
boot what you see. I mighta bet me, but.

1150
01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 11: I didn't lose. I stood talk with nothing to prove.

1151
01:12:38,079 --> 01:12:41,479
There ain't no trophy sitting on myself.

1152
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 3: But I take this line over anything.

1153
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 4: I learned more problems than I ever did win it.

1154
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:58,239
That's the reason I'm still stwn in in again. Knock

1155
01:12:58,359 --> 01:12:59,119
me down.

1156
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 8: Again.

1157
01:13:03,239 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 3: No, I didn't lose, all right, So that was you know,

1158
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:35,319
just come from an idea, from a great conversation. That's

1159
01:13:35,359 --> 01:13:38,680
how some of these work. And I've had thirty years

1160
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:42,800
worth the ideas. So thank y'all for No. I'm not singing.

1161
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:47,319
I can't. It's funny, Leonard. I can't sing. I know

1162
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:50,560
what I wanted to sound like in my head. And

1163
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,279
Dug such a great producer. We worked well together. We've

1164
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,159
you know, and the amount of production that goes into this.

1165
01:13:58,319 --> 01:14:01,199
You're not just typing in. You can make me a

1166
01:14:01,279 --> 01:14:04,279
song about whatever, but I write one hundred percent of

1167
01:14:04,279 --> 01:14:07,520
the songs we get together, we have edit, we rewrite,

1168
01:14:08,199 --> 01:14:13,159
and Doug is amazing. I spent six hours on the

1169
01:14:13,199 --> 01:14:16,800
phone with him, you know, getting one song ready and

1170
01:14:17,319 --> 01:14:21,119
the instruments that he uses. And he's a former drummer himself.

1171
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,760
He knows I can't do that, so we kind of

1172
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,439
work well together. So anyway, we're having a lot of fun.

1173
01:14:28,079 --> 01:14:31,039
Thank y'all. Now we're going to play the long outro.

1174
01:14:32,039 --> 01:14:34,439
Next week we have Danny Buckner. We may talk about

1175
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:39,039
the LBO trip. There's some things that happened. You know,

1176
01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:41,520
a lot of you in here know I think it's

1177
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:46,039
worth talking about. But wood Walkers with a Z Sunday

1178
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:50,880
at two thirty Central. Check them out, Thank you, sir.

1179
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,960
I'm sure they'll be talking about it. And Spencer may

1180
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,880
have the audio ready if you want to hear two boogers,

1181
01:14:59,079 --> 01:15:04,600
If you want to hear a of Alpha Male, I

1182
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,399
would say watch it. We'll have it probably next week,

1183
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,000
but he needs to show it on his show first.

1184
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:15,319
I have never heard an alpha. When it finished, Coombo

1185
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,640
looked at me and said, that was alphas. I believe you.

1186
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,760
It was amazing. So anyway, thank y'all. Thank you for

1187
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,720
being here, and we're going to get out here.

1188
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:32,159
Speaker 9: Thank you, Amanda, and absolutely I'm watching it.

1189
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: All right. Here we go, y'all, have a good weekend.

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01:15:36,319 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 9: Good night, y'all.

1191
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 12: Down in the pines, where the water runs back, where

1192
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,399
the mall sangs low and the night leans back, the

1193
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,239
stores whisp about a chet old tall, big feet moving

1194
01:16:02,319 --> 01:16:03,760
where the moon that fault.

1195
01:16:04,239 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 6: Some say it be some saved ghost in the trees.

1196
01:16:07,279 --> 01:16:10,520
Some say it trouble blowing in with the breeze. But

1197
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,319
around here, man, we know the call, or we just

1198
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:19,119
call him friends, the squatching holler, So lie that.

1199
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 13: Let the cat tell sake the nine birth time, the

1200
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:28,520
copperheads feeding here yonder fall that.

1201
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,520
Speaker 8: Ain't go, and it ain't no go when the.

1202
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,319
Speaker 12: Creek brother's cold and the shadows get taller.

1203
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, your cousins in the squatching, all the legions water

1204
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,399
getting a brave man fiddle tough. But I mind your

1205
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:42,720
stamping and squatching.

1206
01:16:42,840 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 12: How boody tell me stories about the thing at saut

1207
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,680
to ten foot high with a timber y'all, red eyes

1208
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:10,439
running like a summer's coat.

1209
01:17:11,079 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 13: Let the tracks big enough to follow your sober The

1210
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:17,560
old folks laugh, saying don't you fear if crit has

1211
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,520
been living here for hundreds.

1212
01:17:19,159 --> 01:17:22,319
Speaker 6: Of years, treat them with respect. When the moon gets

1213
01:17:22,399 --> 01:17:27,279
smaller and they'll let you live in squatching holler, sold

1214
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:28,079
that fire.

1215
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,319
Speaker 12: He let the swamp drum roll. You can hear that

1216
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:33,359
pace right down in your soul.

1217
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 4: If you hear us grun up.

1218
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 6: From the river, call, it ain't no boat frout balking

1219
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,680
the lord little swamp, or stealing the crickets get salty.

1220
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,279
Speaker 4: Y'all lie alone and it's fatting hot the weather break

1221
01:17:46,399 --> 01:17:50,279
they ties in the fools off novel. Can't watching that

1222
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:51,800
spotting holler.

1223
01:18:22,279 --> 01:18:25,119
Speaker 3: Some say guards it old pine ridge.

1224
01:18:25,319 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 6: Some say he walks from bridge to bridge the warm

1225
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:29,520
thanks show.

1226
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,279
Speaker 3: When the night comes down, something.

1227
01:18:32,039 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 6: Big still calls.

1228
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 3: It's grown so bank that fire.

1229
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 13: He let the night get deep at the willows wi

1230
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,319
while the cuts up creeps.

1231
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,319
Speaker 6: If you catch us glimpse.

1232
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 12: Through the midnight, holler, just now your head.

1233
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,399
Speaker 3: Don't scream and holler.

1234
01:18:49,279 --> 01:18:52,560
Speaker 13: Because the while I'm on spring and the legends getting taller,

1235
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:56,800
and whenever it runs in swatching, holly, we ain't scared,

1236
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,560
but we shore stayed castious down in the.

1237
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 3: Dock last watching how.

1238
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:04,199
Speaker 8: M H

1239
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Speaker 9: M H

