Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and Jim and welcome back to the Weekly Geek.
I am the Glamour tress now and I'm joined by
Nobody Malone. I will hopefully be joined by Taylor Field.
He's working on one of our I guess I can say.
Last week on our Geek first episode, we talked about
all the things we're doing for our ten year and
Geese Creed anniversary episode. If you don't know what that is,
that's an Assassin's Screed podcast that Taylor used to do
with Rubin, who's done a bunch of stuff on Geek
vers before. And yeah, it's gonna be tons of fun.
I imagine getting those guys back together talking about some
Sassin's Creed goodness. But lots of things are going down
in the next little bit for our tenure, and he's
recording that said, oh, you know, start off, I'm not
gonna get to any big topics without him, of course,
but start off talk about what's going on, Geek Firus,
all that good jazz. And yeah, as I said on
side Quest, we don't even so some is recording right now.
We don't have any of the ten year contents starting
this week that's coming in the next couple of weeks,
and like we said, we're doing August. I got it.
I haven't memorized a day in my head yet. Let
me get this going here? Where is my calendar?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: I hope everyone's doing well? Like I said, we'll be
joined by mister Field. August ninth, ten am PST. We
start GV Day a bunch of events. Go back. Last
week we made all announcements. We'll do one more kind
of cast right before. Some things we've announced, some things
we haven't. But if you're a fan of geek first
kind of any era, we're gonna hit on something that
you like. There's some stuff that we announced last week
that people i'd say that from like the fifteen to
seventeen era of I'm like, oh that's awesome. Haven't done
those in a while. So yeah, it's gonna be a
good time. Looking very forward to doing all that. But
this week, even though no tenure, even next week, even
though no tenure stuff, the juice is flowing. There is
a lot of gasoline going on in the Geek versus
a GV gasoline because this week we just did a
great side quest addictions. Go check out that. People. Let
me know if my camera is like super buggy. I
have brought my camera in a long time. I got
a new connection. So anyone that's watching live let me know.
I can go back, and I probably will because I'm
seeing how buggy it is right now to the original.
I should make sure on my own mike. My goodness,
I'm not. Oh no, that's not the mic theory go
that should be better. Let's see. I feel like your
mic sounds weird as pubs. It did, because usually what
happens is I'm here at the boys to tell me
my mic is off, and it was, so now it
should sound a lot better as a plane goes by. Yeah,
so we'll see what happens there. But yeah, side Quest Predictions.
That was tons of fun for Summer Games Fest and
Xbox Showcase. Now we have another cast coming out this
week because PlayStation announced today that tomorrow or whenever you're
listening Wednesday, June fourth, that is the loudest fucking playing
going by in the world. I'm sure you can hear it.
But June fourth, in the middle of the afternoon, and
they're doing a PlayStation State of Play. So me and
Dylan will break that down. At least me and Dale.
Maybe someone else will join, but Dylan and I will
break that down. So you're getting additional cast this week,
and then Thursday, uh, they'll be or a Friday, there
will be the Bower Rena review. There's gonna be pretor
Killer of Killer's review. There's gonna be the Summer Games
Fest review in the Xbox Showcase review. And the next
week there'll be the review for four Xbox for the
Switch to which is what we're getting, lots of good stuff,
how to Train Your Dragons out. I'm very excited. We
just got screenings for A Life of Chuck, so I'm
gonna be seeing that. I might even drop a little
solo review that might be the Trust Told You, because
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I want to. I'm for sure at least in July
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But everybody that ups their tier on Patreon or joins
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that's extra. So there's lots of stuff that we're doing
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August September, But then the sequel was always like we'd
do a tournament, so it was like the start of
the season was very close. So I kind of like
that they're kind of linked together in a way. That's
the ten hour one, and then as we've said before,
there's a couple events that we want to do, but
if we don't get to do them, they'll be kicked
the extra life because it's just scheduling and there's a
lot of stuff going on. There's two in particular that
have to have everybody together at a certain time, and
it's very tough and they're like weekends and everyone has
different schedules. So yeah, we'll see. It's, you know, a
tough life being a podcast. But yeah, lots of good
stuff going on. I hope everyone's doing good. I'm killing
time because I didn't tell Taylor as I told him
I'm going live, but he never gave me the okay.
But you know, that's what we do here because I
don't know what he's gonna do. Trying to think of
what else is going on right now in the geek
First room. Even my laptop feels a bit cooler now
since I turned that right mic on. So thank you.
You know though I thought about right when you said that, Uh,
thank you. Let's see, is there anything else just did?
After nine? That was a fun time Mino Kart World review.
Trying to think there's anything else, Trying to think is
there anything I can scoop here? There's one thing I
can say because I completely forgot to denounce it on
the Geek First you know, ten year schedule. Uh So,
what we're doing, and I'm doing primarily, is we're editing
a bunch of videos. Not gonna tell them what they are,
but they are kind of you know, some montages that
cover different sections of geek First, whether it's the eras
or the content, all that type of stuff. And what
I forgot to mention is we all did sit down
interviews with the same questions, not together separately, with the
same questions, and that's gonna be used towards the videos.
But the next day, after the Geek versus ten day,
we're going to a suppose as if Taylor doesn't show
it within ten minutes, I can legally join the stream.
It's like the teacher didn't show after fifteen minutes. Yeah,
what is it? Yeah, ten more minutes. I'll give you that.
Now you'd be mad. It's like, what you replace me?
You kick me out for the gimmick boys. You know
they're gonna be mad you replace the stuff. That would
be great a ten minute rule to have you there.
But yeah, we still go. We gotta get you and
David one to my actual Geek First episodes. Now you
guys are like in the member sphere. But anyways, as
I was saying with the videos, we all recorded sit
down interviews by ourselves. Same thing. Those I want to
be done in person, in person with the person, but
we just couldn't time it out with correctly. So what
we've done is we all you know, record a separate stream.
Those are gonna be edited into the montages. But it's
stuff like, you know, here's one I can spoil because
it's you know, I love the thing geek fers Gone.
There's a whole segment on the key Frisk Gone in history,
the stories, our favorite matches, favorite matches we were in,
favorite matches other people competed in. Uh, that's something where okay,
you're gonna get like the quick highlights of me, Dylan, Taylor,
and Kirkland talking. But then when we release what my
plan is is the next day and honored the ten year,
I'm gonna put all the four interviews together and I
think it's gonna be like two and a half three hours,
and you'll see all different perspective inside stories, things I
guarantee you haven't heard before, multiple things, at least from
my side. I went our half, I babbled, So who
would have thunk? Right, But yeah, you're gonna get that unedited.
So first you're gonna get the first little tease on
GIV Day and so our answers, but then to get
expanded upon there you go, and there's just some stuff
that like the questions, we created them. But then as
I'm making the montage videos like this just doesn't even
work here, but I want to hear people's thoughts on
and stuff. So yeah, it's been it's been very fun
getting that all together. And hopefully it's no more plane's
going by. It's getting hot here in Kelowna. But yeah,
I hope everyone is doing well. What have I been watching?
I can do that quickly, all tears not around What
did O? What? Watch? Twenty weeks later today? You know,
no spoilers. The retros are coming up, so tune in
for that soon. I've been trying trying. I talked about
this before and a couple of what we've been watching.
I finished Point Mets World. I've been trying to watch
Girl Meets World because I heard that there's a lot
of sequel stuff, a lot of characters return, like it's
a very fan seriously show. I know people want to say, oh, well,
it's a kid's show, it's a different era, that's not
in your era. But man, it's it's not great. It's
a tough watch. It's a tough watch to get to
the characters that I really enjoy. So don't know if
I'm gonna keep it together. Uh in lieu of that,
I will. I've been listening to the podcast the pod
meets World. The show. I was like, oh, it'll be
a show that I put on because I've seen it
many times. Right, it'll be a sure I put on,
and I just buzz saw through that it didn't become
the put on show. And now Girl Meets World it's
like I watched maybe like one episode a week, maybe
not even that. It's it's it's a tough watch. Finished
Term Air two. That was great? What else on the dock?
And I'm watching Siren's White right now? That's an interesting
show I own, not only I guess, but there's uh
Julian Moore. It was I like Julian Moore. I don't
think she's somebody that I go like, oh, I got
to see your stuff. But I like Julian Moore a
lot but Million Allcock is in the show. There's three leads.
There's Julian Moore, Million Allcock, and I think her name's
like Megan Fay or something like that. Someone espeus because
I'm alone right now. If you know who was the
lead and Drop, I want to give her credit because
I don't think I've seen her anything else. I probably have,
but I saw her and Drop and then in this
and I really like her a lot. She's really good.
So it's a three lead and it's like a it's
a thriller, just a thriller and a horror thriller. They're
talking about some themes. Now you're starting to wonder is
there a supernatural element to it? And I can't tell
if it's gonna go the route of that is a
revealed that there's something really funky going on or just
a lot of people buying into the funkiness. I'm literally
the halfway point right now. Me been watching that and
all costs great. Julian Moore is great. Hopefully name is Megan.
That's great. So yeah, that's uh, that's been fun. Uh Megan,
Megan Fae. I think I think I'm right in saying
that that at least that's what I pictured. I'm terrible
with names, you know, but most of the sar I
we haven't heard, so that's been good. I'm trying to
think there's anything else I've been watching on the what
I've been watching tear here. I see a couple of
people been watching John Wick. I plan to do that
this week because we've got a ballery interview one of
the Cucas nests. I talked about that. I've been watching
some MSU stuff. I guess I didn't even talk about
that because it's on my letter box. But I've watched
so last summer when Gwen was off, we watched Phase one,
and I think we're we're probably gonna do Phase one
phase two because Phase two we're almost done. We did Thoord,
Dark Worlds, Captain America, and Guardians. I don't think we've
had anything else before Avengers. Now I'm in three. We
never really finished because I just said she was just
not the biggest fan of it. She felt like she
was kind of bored. There's a lot of talking in
that movie and not a lot of Iron Man. She's still
only seven, right, and just she's not ready for conversations
about PTSD even then too. It's like when we were
talking about mission and possible and someone bring their kid.
Last week, with Captain America Winter Soldier, we have a system.
I can't remember what her system was. Let me see
if I can find it. It was a couple of
weeks ago of because I used to tell her just stars,
how much you liked it. But then she told me,
because now she's seven, I'm sure someone else has said
this too, or four of like what they mean. Okay,
So she said that on the rating five, we don't
do point fives with the girls. Five is fire, four
is good, three, two is bad, and one is very
very bad. Captain America Winter Soldier was a four and
then four Dark World and Guardians were a five. I
think just because they're easier. And that's where she said
that with Winter Soldier. See she said, there's a lot
of talking and a lot of I didn't understand, but
she liked certain things of it. Still. I was surprised
how much she still did like it. I think the
Winter Soldier helps in that reveal. Once it's bucky, I
think that's, you know, a good time for her. And
then the other ones more flashy, more CGI creatures fight,
you know, all that type of stuff. Even then in
a thor Dark World review, she's like, oh, well they
talked a lot on this one, but I understood it,
so that that's the difference there. Right, the next generation
of Dark World revisionis, yeah, it's like the prequels, right,
people that grow up with Dark World or group with
the Stars per Gole, that love them like a tailor.
I grew up with them and liked them, but then
when I got older, I didn't. And now I've kind
of come around on the MIC because I remember when
we did the commentary tracks for them in our first year.
I'm like, I'm never watching these ever again. I'm saying
goodbye to these, right, I even did that s Pubs
was Scream four. I'm saying goodbye these. But then as
you get older, you the black and white goes away
as far as you know, oh that's good bad. It's like, okay, sure,
Fantom Mess is not really like a good to great
Like it's definitely a great movie. It's not even a
good movie. Maybe you could fail it on a story
and writing perspective, but like, I fucking love watching Leamanes
and his Squai gon Gin and I can't get that
anywhere else, you know, even Darth Maul. Right. So there's
things like even Scream four. There's certain things about where
it's say, okay, still my almost at my bottom. The
last one's at my bottom now. But there's certain things
where go, okay, I can enjoy this, this and this.
So there's certain things I still won't watch because if
there's too much bad stuff, and so I really don't
love that. Obviously you say goodbye to that. That's why
I don't know where it will be a final reckoning,
which I'm glad you liked Spos more than myself. But
that's like I said, I think I'm gonna start it
at the submarine part. So let's see tras we never
got your snow white thoughts in death. Okay, there we go.
I've learned to appreciate the vassileine filter that I can't.
That still makes me. That still hurts my head. It
makes me Vomit is a big like you know, over exaggeration,
but I hate it. I really would love a cut
without it. Snow White. That was a tough watch, Mike.
That was a very very tough watch. I don't think
it's like an all time bad thing. Because here's the
thing that's me with almost most the live action Disney stuff, Right,
I've said this before, or I really liked Cinderella, I
quite liked Aladdin, and then I think that's kind of
the line. I think there's then after just varying degrees
of met too bad. So I'm kind of like the
wrong auning. It's the same thing. Like my mom asked
about Leelan and Stitch, like, oh, you want me to
watch Twinsy and take the Girls, I'm like, and my
mom's gonna tame Knock. I'm like, we have no interest
in seeing any of those, like, and I don't think
there is any Like I think even if we got
to Pixar stuff, there's nothing now because I think it's
just in a weird spot where you don't want a
full and just straight adaption, but then you don't want
almost too much change because it just fits like they're
like I, like I said last week, there's some stuff
I heard about Lelo Stitch. I've not seen the movie,
but some stuff people have told me, whether it's people
I know or you just see stuff online where I go, oh,
you kind of miss some of the core values of
that movie or the meaning of that scene, right, and
that's something that happened with the Last of Us. And
I feel like when I was younger, I was very
much like, yeah, give me a one to one of
the Long Halloween, where nowadays I don't know if I
I don't know if I want there's I think I like,
you know, and maybe it's because I'm you know, Piple
might say an MSU fanboy, there you go, Tayo's gonna
be on in any second now, But I don't actually
mind the idea of adapting something and changing it like
the MSU has now. Don't get me wrong. Granted I'm
a defender of thor Love and Thunder, not that it's
a great movie, but I think people I can see
why they hate it. Don't get me wrong, but I
think the comparisons people have made to other ones, like
when they called the worst combic of all time Catwoman exists,
how the Duck exists, like there's many other up, even
Batman and Robin. Now it's like, reappreciate it, but really
when you look at it, it's bad. Batman Robin doesn't
have any great scenes like with Thorn and Jaye, with
the cancer or with what's his name, Christian Bale's character
the god Butcher Gore on that black and white plan
and everything. You don't have any that in a Batman
and Robin. But for me, that's where it's like, Okay,
I'm all for the adaption, but that's still a situation
where Okay, I think the Jane storyline, I appreciate that
that's there's no humor in that storyline, but I still
think they kind of I won't say botched it, but
severely underwhelmed. Right. So that's where I am for if
you're gonna do a direct adaption, I think there are
certain things you want to hit on, even if the
main overall story is different. And that's been the tough
thing with like Last of Us, right because I think
for me especially, we didn't talk about it after, but
the interview that and I've never seen Cherobel. I've heard
great things, but I've never never seen that. But Greg Manzini,
who gave that interview, it just feels like and it
sucks for me because I you know, it's also Ellie
from Up, but Ellie from Last was another reason why
Ellie my daughter got that name. I love that character
video game character that's a top three or there for sure,
it's like her, John Marston and maybe someone else, right,
maybe Nico Belick right. But for me, when I read
that interview, I'm like, Mahn, you missed a lot of
the point. And that's the problem of the adaption. Right
when it's said in the world or we're gonna tell
our own story of those characters. That does hurt people too,
But the adaption, it felt like, man, you missed the
boat or misunderstood, or maybe you didn't and you just
wanted to go a different route. I just don't like
this route that we're on really per se, right, And
we never talked about news. It's an interesting situation with that,
and I think it was a news topic. We got
kicked at one point because we got a busy week
or something. But like that, what was it the pre
MEI like, the finale of last year was like eight
point nine and this year was like three point seven.
That's not good. And that's what I talked about.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I know Baksbo covered like well, people usually watched weeks
after in a stream a lot. Don't get me wrong,
I get that right, But I also think like that's
season two. Now, think about like, okay, it's slowing down. Now,
think about in season three when it's two years from
now and it's focus on some storylines and characters we
don't love. That's what's gonna get interesting. I said that
on the review. I said they should probably finish this
season three because I think those ratings are gonna really
jump down. So Hunter Iggy says the Glamour if James
goin Superman movie is two twenty five million, inflation's one
sixty uh into twenty thirteen if it was released. Yeah,
I have seen that going around. Yeah, and that is true.
But at the same point, that doesn't matter as far
as like the inflation goes both ways. Right, It's still like, Okay,
that's great, that's the same budget as Man of Steel.
But we're still in this day and age where the
money doesn't mean as much, right, Like if you were
to make that's like like that'd be someone being like,
well if they made four hundred million. Really, let's say Superman,
we're gonna get two. When Taylor gets here, Hunter, we're
gonna go break it all down. I'm just waiting for Taylor,
my co host, and there he is a Wizard is
never late. He's here precisely what he means to and
we're just transitioning to her into Superman, which is good.
But how you doing today, sir?
Speaker 2: Doing good?
Speaker 1: Doing good?
Speaker 2: Just hot off the cusp of a Fresh Geeks Creed episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I thought I knew. Taylor was like, yeah,
it's gonna be a clean out, and I'm like, that's
not gonna be the case.
Speaker 2: It was. It was The episode clocked in an hour
and twenty nine seconds.
Speaker 1: Oh so Ray one was just late.
Speaker 2: Well I was late. We had a diaper blow.
Speaker 1: See, there you go, and that's fine. We talked about
some GV day stuff and we've been talking with the
chat everything. SMUs almost got in. He had about four
more minutes, he said, in ten minutes, if you weren't on,
he was gonna tag in.
Speaker 2: So uh would I'll let Yeah, you can tap in.
I'll go have a.
Speaker 1: Shower to bed. Yeah. But no. So that's the thing
right where you could say, hey, four hundred million now
was worth a lot more in twenty thirteen, right, but
no executive is gonna accept that. Like imagine if Superman
made that and like, hey, I know it was under
it under performed. But guess what twenty thirteen, that fourner million,
it would actually, uh, it would have been this much,
you know, So I do get and that's a great thing.
In inflation, it's very tough, right because even then when
you look at like, I don't think the world works
that way. When everyone talks about the number one movie
of all time, it's Avatar one, right, but really when
if you just for inflation, it's Gone with the Wind.
But no one ever talks about that, right, No one
talks about Going with the Wind being the number one movie.
It's just how the times changed. So I have seen that.
I just think that that's not how a studio is
gonna look and be like, oh, you came under budget.
It's like you're the same budgets. Mass steels like, no,
you're bigger in a twenty twenty five cents and I'm
kind of surprised by the budget we're gonna get into this.
S Web says, it's like how The Rock was the
same Black Action black Adam actually did good because Captain America,
the first Avenger did less, absolutely right, And that's the
same thing of like even Thunderbolts. I see that from
like there's you know, me and I suppose to cover wrestling,
and that's where I love with David, Like we're in
the middle. We might have some preferences. But you see
on the ww AW brand, Star Wars, DC, Marvel, they
all have those diehards where you know, they'll look at
thunderbolts or something that they go, well, you know the
first you know it did better in the First Captain America.
It's like, yeah, the First cap America was twenty eleven
before all the Avengers all like fanos knowing him all
that stuff. Like that's to me when you say that,
that's not like like and what Black Adam was, That's
not like a good thing. That's like, oh, it's a regression.
It's like, well, it's doing the same like it used
to so and I remember that happened with the X
Men First Class. It opened the same as the two
thousands X Men, and that's what the studio but out
they're like, well, it opened the same as the first movie,
and this is a new era, a new character's new actors.
So we're pretty happy with that. But then won't happened
for days a few your pass they brought back all
the fucking old X Men to like boost that box office. Right,
so exact say one thing, but Taylor, I'm gonna lay
it on you here where we're talking about supern then
we got just a shit ton of trailers to talk
about tonight. But let me find it here. Oh my god,
I lose the fucking tweet I did. Anyways, I will
just paraphrase here, but I think i'll find the official
tweet where. So this is coming from a B tier.
This is the Rat. The Rat's broken many things before,
but still it is a B tier. I'm sure we'll
get an official production budget, and at the same time,
it's like you sometimes never even fully get the full
official one, right there's always you know, some checks and bounce.
But right now, if this report is to be true,
the Superman budget is two twenty five so I did check.
Thanks to screen ran there was an article that listed
in twenty twenty four the most top ten highest budgets,
so it never crossed that because the highest budget above
that was two fifty. Which it's funny, there's like a
four way tie. It's here. It is the Dark Knight
Rises Civil War that BVS and Guardians three were all
two fifty and that's in the top ten, so there's
like a four way tie for last place, but then
under that, so this would put Superman somewhere at least
in the top twenty for most expensive superhero movies. And
in this report it was saying that if if it
were to make from insiders, they're looking as like, if
it made five hundred, it would make a It has
to hit five hundred to make a profit, but that
would be looked at upon as like like that's good,
but like like very like a modest success that would
be okay, like sure, we've made a profit, but kind
of just by the edge of our teeth, apparently, like
the and this happens a lot with blockbusters, but the
number that's been going around that they are one hit
and they would consider a big win is seven hundred million. Obviously, Taylor,
in a couple of weeks, we're gonna be Superman predictions,
so we'll have more time to refine it. But I
want to get to early kind of thoughts, and I
will throw it again. This is from like even more
seats here, but there's a tracking website. They're called box
Office Theory and level P people they put up this
number and people got mad because like there's not even tickets.
There's this that how they track it as they use
social media and they look at views, they look at
Google searchers, and they compare that to other movies that
have come out and said, hey are theories that could
open anywhere from here, and they projected as one fifty
to one seventy five. So right now, Taylor, does it
surprise you? Because obviously Superman big film, But I'd say
other than Nicholas Hold, there's not like a bunch of
big stars right like you look at Civil War and
BVS that's two fifty because it's like, well you got
ben Affleck and Henry's coming back and Civil Wars like
you got down all this stuff where this is two
twenty five, like I said, rumored to be in that
top eleven to twenty. Are you gonna kind of surprise
it so big with you know, some more or lesser
known or do you think even though this is maybe
a sign that they go, hey, you know, DC's had
a tough time, this has to be a hit. But
they're not cheaping out. They're saying no goal out, like
has to be a big Like what do you take
from it? From having a supposedly rumor budget that people
were thinking, and Samuel says, is marketing budget usually double.
I I'd say with a movie like this, absolutely like
a big movie. You also have to think that lots
of the theaters take half the money. So that's why
they always say you want to double your budget. So
that's why if this is two twenty five, you would
least want to make five hundred million. So I know
I threw a lot at you there, but a lot
of numbers. But how do you feel about that budget?
Speaker 2: Of numbers? A lot of numbers?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how am I feeling about the budget? I think
that you hit it on the nose. I think a
movie like this DC needs a big w in the
box office, So you're gonna be showing out a lot
of money to make sure your project has everything that
it needs covered. You want to have all the bases
covered because you're coming off of a not so hot
streak of films that were not necessarily cashing in at
the box office, like Your Black Adam, Your Blue Beetle.
While there's probably little bits of praises here and there,
they weren't raking in the money. So and again, how
much Black Adam's box office or not box office, but
budget was probably like astronomical for seven years right that
it was in production for well.
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing though they say the production budget,
but they never talk about like all the same thing
the flash. Right, it's not on that top ten, but
it would definitely be if you were to take everybody
writing it, even maybe Blade right, because every time you
hire a new writer or director, like lots of times,
who pay those people they're starting to work on the film.
So that's where these budgets are literally just the version
you're seeing. But even Black Adam it listits as a
budget of one ninety to two sixty, so we really
don't know exactly what it means. So it could actually
be more expensive than Superman was here.
Speaker 2: So interesting. Okay, yeah, I because, yeah, you're right, with
Holt being really the big name in there, I don't
think I am aware of really obviously, aside from the
green Lantern actor which can remember feelings.
Speaker 1: I'm making this bet there's no way you know, no,
but I mean rookie, but come on now, you know.
Speaker 2: He isn't the rookie. Actually that's been popping on my
feeds lately. I should have to watch it. But I've
seen a few things with him, but mostly other cast members.
I don't think i've really seen them in anything. Have
you seen them a much?
Speaker 1: No, Rachel Browsan, isn't that like marvelous missus masl show?
You got that obviously? Isabelle Merced's popping off? Right? She's
Hawk Girls, so she's in Last of Us and Alien
but like she's a small like she's breaking out kuzz
those roles. It's not like she broke out and then
they got her. They just happened to get her at
a good time. And I guarantee her pay rate's gonna
go up anytime they do the next Hawk Girl of Adventure.
The guy plays metamorpho. No, Like I'm trying to think
who else is in there? Like I don't think so,
and even Dave krnsbut himself, Like even film people are like, oh,
that guy from Pearl, you know, Like that's not a
guy that's breaking the budget making it two twenty five.
So it's like I would imagine it's all going into
the film unless James Gun's also uh, maybe he's getting
some downy money and whatnot. But I would imagine most
of it's going towards the actual film, which you know
Superman can't look cheap is a movie that he flies.
He's doing this stuff. He's got heat vision. Like if
Superman looks cheap, then you're off to a really bad start, right.
So so in that sense of okay, it's expensive, what
do you think about And like I said, we're gonna
talk about this week's later again. This is like a
mini spoiler for that. But still it's gonna be lots
of things will change, We'll get other tracking right now,
it's like it's a track round now is one fifty,
one seventy. Their hope is to at least hit five hundred.
There are stretch goals seven hundred and then anything. I
passed that as like, ravy, do you where you are
right now? And I will give you. Let me give
you the top ten here and let me know if
my camera's bugging out because I'm using using the HD camera.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, you look zoomed in more
than yes usual.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think of Okay, so this is
the top ten, uh superhero for Jesus Christ. This is
the top ten superhero film since COVID. Okay, so this
is what I'm gonna give you, and I'm gonna just
to give you a ballpark. So actually I'll kick this
one out because Suicide Squad was at ten, but Dead
Wolverine is somewhere here. I think that be Wolvering's got
one point three billion birds of praise at two hundred
and one million. Don't forget that came out Black Widowed
three seventy nine million eternals, four oh two million Sung
Chi or Sang Chief four to thirty two. Then I'm
let there be Carnage five oh one, four eleven, Thunder
seven twenty, The Batman seven hundred and sixty seven, uh,
Doctor Strachmalti versus Metus nine fifty three, and then Inspireman
No Way Home one point eight billion dollars, which is
crazy to think. Imagine that I think didn't release in COVID,
and it didn't release in China as well, but something.
Speaker 2: Didn't release in China, no for some rules or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I remember that movie opened, had a bigger
opening weekend than Findy War. So if that was during COVID,
I think it could have beaten Finny Warm, might even
be number two but so if they're aiming for seven
hundred the Batman was seven hundred and sixty seven. When
you think about like the opening weekend and just overall,
when you look at Superman and then compared to three
years ago with the Batman, do you personally feel like
the hype levels are big enough that it will get
it to that same mark as The Batman.
Speaker 2: If I'm removing my own bias, I think yes, I
think there is a high levels in there. And I
say that, Babel, remember my own biases, because I my my, my,
like me and what I like and what I enjoy,
I'd say no. But if I'm just looking at it
from a very purely neutral position, I feel like yes,
and I stay in that base and the fact that
I remember when that they dropped that score initially and
you were over the moon, and I feel like you
and so many o the people were like fanatics about it. Again.
I loved I thought the score was great. I loved it.
But I think there's a lot of other little things
and subtleties that are in this movie that just has
the Superman fans just going crazy.
Speaker 1: And I'm not even that fan fan. I'm just I
just like something done. But I'm not an guy, okay,
And that's funny because for me, the perspective I'm going is,
I think this movie will still review well, but I
don't think it'll be reviewed well as The Batman because
let me see The Batman. Let's see Ratten Tomatos, because
I thought that was pretty high up there. And the
Glamor says, don't forget China will be releasing Superman. I
haven't forgotten. The only reason, okay, eighty five at lower
than I thought. The only reason I don't think it's
as big a deals because we've seen a lot of
superhero movies in the past few years go to China
and not make a big dent. It's that's because the
Chinese market has changed. They've released so many movies of
their own now that are massive. I think the number
one movie this year is a movie from China, and
just because there, it's like an anime movie, it's like
Naza two or something, and it's like because they fund
their own stuff now. So don't get me wrong, that
always helps to have it there. But I don't think
it's like a guaranteed like that's gonna blow up, right.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: For me, I'm the other side where the circles I
run in. It's like people are hyped, but they're the
people that always would be hyped. And I feel like
the most time I hear Shuperman talked about is still
just in contention with Fantastic four, Like, well, I'm more
hyped for Superman than f four yet da da da.
I remember the Batman and even in a day and
age where that was COVID. I remember people in my
real life the second that first trailer came out with
Nirvana and that first look at passing and just being
so dark. I remember people that know like that hit
me up every couple of years for podcast stuff, whether
I talk to them or not, just like oh I
listened to Like I remember after Rise Skywalker with my
friend Childa who like never listened to the podcast, like
I needed somebody, and I went to your podcast like
those two a peel right that like ever for an
endgame that will come to Geek first and then never
listen to us until like another three years. I remember
the Batman people coming to me and being like, man,
this is looking really good. So I had more real
life interaction where I've not had. That was Superman. Really,
I'm not saying I can't have that. July is still
like a month away, and still there's gonna be more
previews I manage, we'll get into the trailer, we'll get
like I know they're doing dairy Queen meals, so like
it's I'm sure it's gonna happen. I just feel like
with The Batman it had that big oomph of wow,
like this is something different, and at the same time, like,
I think there's aspects of The Superman that is different,
but I think there's still plot stuff that's not And
I think it's still it's different for some young'in's because
a lot of people it's not different because it's more
aching to the Christopher Reeves stuff. Right, Because even though
like The Batman and Dark Knight, you can say, oh,
they're they're you know, those are very dark movies. To me,
they're very different. Christopher Nolan's movies are a crime drama.
Matt Reeves is like a serial killer thriller. They are dark,
but they're different shades of dark. You know, different types
of chocolate. You could say there's a regular chocolate and
dark chocolate. So that's just where I'm going like I've
always said, at six hundred, that's where I'm thinking it's
gonna be, just because July is busy and one of
those movies has to win. And maybe it's Superman, maybe
it's Jurassic maybe it's F four. I don't know, but
I just think there is some things that they will
even to each other's box office. You gotta remember that
Fantastic four is the last movie they come out of
those three, so maybe that'll benefit it or maybe that'll
hurt it. I'll feel going, yeah, I respend somebody in
Drastic World and Superman. I'm gonna skip F four for now.
Like I'm so excited to see when we get to
August and September, to see the final receipts on those three,
because like all of them are in interesting states. Where
Dassic World's coming off a very rocky end to a franchise,
Marvel is introducing the First Family, which I don't like.
I see lots of people talk about them being like
that's an a tier character like F four, like or
like Superman F four. I think we talked about on
the retro like there's no movie that's made over four
hundred million dollars like, I don't think Fantastic four is
actually an a tier for mainstream people. I think there's
like Pedro sure, but I don't know. So for me,
I'm still I haven't changed. I'm still at six hundred million.
I think five hundred million. It'll be very curious if
they get to that where they considered it like a success.
But I don't like because I think if you get this,
like if they're the rumor is a seven hundred, they're like,
this is a big win, then clearly the DCU is
completely fine. Right, They're gonna keep going. They're considered a
big win. I wonder what they do with a oh,
this is like this is a win, but it's not
a strong win. Like, I wonder does that just mean
do they still go fullhead with oh now it's more
DCU stuff this that, or do they like lean off
the gas and go, ah, let's see how Supergirl does,
Let's see how clay Face does, or even like I know,
I supposed making a joke of they need to lean
into Glen Pale post credit boost that Glen Pala need
to leak a Glen pal Batman post credit to boost
the box office. That to me is interesting thing where
who knows what's happening. But even the Batman world, I
think if Superman makes like five hundred million, is gonaider, Like, yeah,
that's a win. Like I feel like Matt Reeves gets
a lot more power because it's like, well, his movie
in COVID made two hundred and seventy million more than yours,
you know, and that was in a lot of trying times,
and it's not a universe or anything like that. If
it's the same, that's interesting. So yeah, I'm very curious
how it's gonna go down. But let's take an ad
break right here, and then I'm gonna get your thoughts
on something else that came out with Superman. So we'll
be right back and we're back. Before I continued, did
you anything else say on the budget box office wise? Oh?
You didn't tell me. Actually you didn't tell me. What
do you sorry for? I said, I'm still cumpables six
hundred right now, we're still a month half way. Where
do you think it's gonna land in that range or
do you think there's do you think there's a chance
that's even lower than five hundred million?
Speaker 2: No, I think it's okay. I think it's minimum hitting
five hundred.
Speaker 1: I agree. If it hits under, then it's over. It's
it's Joe over. It's like to me, if it's hitting
like Brave New World numbers, you can't do that with
your first Superman out there.
Speaker 2: So does like guns Universe just canceled. Everything's done and
he's he's out.
Speaker 1: I think everything would come out, but then it could
be an Out Norman situation. I think they released because
right now they're releasing like Supergirls, I think rap filming,
and then right now they're going into clay Face. Peacemaker
is gonna come out, so that I'll already out. I'm
trying to think if there's anything like startre Rock is
Dead and there's Lanterns. Right, so let's say there's those
three projects, Lanterns, Supergirl, and clay Face. You could really
if you wanted, kind of like what the old DC
you did. It's just like release them and they're not connected.
They're just their own projects. Right. I don't think Warner
Brothers would ever sell DC. Actually I won't say that
because there's always a chance. I find highly unlikely. I
find what they would do is either they would go
back to just solo movies or what I think could
be interesting, and I don't know if I want this
or don't want this. Would be kind of like a
licensing them out, like hey, we're gonna you know, whoever
wants to make a Batman movie, give us a bid.
And that's where it's like Apple or Amazon doesn't own
Batman per se, but they could go make a Batman
movie that's for their streaming service, like for them and stuff.
So I'd find that interesting if they would go like
kind of like what games do with devs, right of
like hey, for battle Front, we're going to EA. For
Star Wars Eclipse, we're going to Quantum Dreams like something
like that. I could see, Hey, fuck Disney, you want
to get a DC character one of your Marvel movies,
Like right now they're doing a calm Across. Oh we're
dead pulling Batman? You know so? But yeah, so you
said it's a minimum five hundred, but what's your what's
your bones twing you right now? A long term number?
Speaker 2: Ooh, long term? I'm you said six hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I to be more specific, I'm like six
point fifty. I think that's where it is. I agree
with you that the minimums five hundred. I could see
a world where it doesn't get to six hundred, but
I think it will at least get to five hundred,
which you never know because Thunderbolts didn't like, let me
pull up hango on quickly while you say talk, I'll
pull up the top ten movies this year because I
don't think there's many movies that are five hundred, so
it could actually like not do it. So what's your
thought there?
Speaker 2: I feel like my mind immediately went to six fifty.
That just feels like a safe, kind of safe cushion
to go with. I feel like seven hundred is getting
up but doable, but anything higher than seven hundred is
too high.
Speaker 1: So it's an under that's they're laughing like that's O good,
like like look at this right now, So North American.
I talked about this because the number one movie right
now is Knee is not to that came from China.
Right now, there's only my Craft and Lelan's Stitch Up
gone past five hundred million, Brave New Worlds at four fifteen.
Thunderbolts is three seventy Mission Postle, three fifty Sinners, three
fifty Bloodlines Found Destination two thirty and snow White two
of five. So it's like, like, honestly, that's where when
I say that I A grew you through the minimums
five hundred, I could see a universe where this doesn't
get to five hundred and again, if people just don't
want Superman, they're tired of superhero stuff, whatever it may be.
We only have two movies right now that are past
five hundred, which is not maybe not great, I guess,
I don't know, like that's I don't or maybe that
just means the movies coming up are gonna make a
bunch of money, right I don't know. What would you
think would happen if they don't hit that magical number.
Do you think it would be like just halt the universe?
Do you think they'd write out a little bit longer
to see Do you think they'd do what I said if,
like maybe in the future, stop their universe and kind
of license these things out.
Speaker 2: I think they would stop it and start licensing these
things out. That seems like the a safe play because
at least they can kind of you know, it's it's
it's they get to put their their stamp, they get
to put their logo, right on it at the end
of the day, right, and just hopefully they're letting other
people run with a little bit more and can kind
of they don't have to worry about taking all the
heat and putting all of their money into it. They're
making money off.
Speaker 1: Just get a check pretty much exactly what Sony does, right.
They they let Marvel produce the movie, cast to write it,
and then they cut them a check for like twenty
five percent. I think would be more like if you're
selling a character off for a little bit. But yeah,
we'll see. Espo says two years is too long. Toway
cut to two thirty two and it's still in production.
The brain of the Bowl will get the blade treatment. Yeah,
the brave of the Bowl. That's a that's all. That's
what he was talking about. Lace Jenten, Sorry, I read
his chats out of order. That Batman thing is that
all the Batman stuff is tough. The Matt Reeves thing
is tough. Of it all, they're even the bolts of
it all. Because it's the situation of the rumor is
they're filming, you know, early next year. But it's like
the rumor was they're filming last year, you know, and
whatever the issue is going on that does affect the
other Batman movie, right, because let's say that is a plan,
Let's say one hundred percent. James gun say, hey, no
matter what, Matt reeves, whatever's going on, and take your time.
We're gonna give your trilogy. We've talked about that before.
Whatever James Gunn wants to do with Batman, you can't
do it. You can't, like, you can't have two Batman
movies in the same year. I think you can't even
have them in the same like I think two years.
I think it's like has to be two and a
half minimum to me, Like, I think even two years
might be cutting too close because you still people picking
their favorites. I want to hit you. We've never talked
about this. I want hit you with this room that
people have this working theory that James Gunn might be
working on a World's Finest type of movie, which would
be a Batman Superman team up. So obviously it would
be kind of weird. It'd be very zach snyrish to
do a Superman movie and then the sequel is Batman
and Superman. But this time it would not be like
a bunch of tension it would be them teaming up.
Do you like that as like a follow up for
Gun and Superman and would you like that as Batman's
introduced or you think that is just too similar to
what we got the last go around.
Speaker 2: Sorry, maybe I'm just I'm daft with this. So Braving
the Bold will come out after this if he was
to do it that.
Speaker 1: I think that's the working theory as far as hey,
Matt Reeves is taking a bit longer. We don't want
to do a soul Batman, but what if we do
kind of like a Superman too, but we have we
get to introduce our Batman, like, introduce them somewhere else, so.
Speaker 2: That okay, So it would be the Brave and the
Bold that actor was chosen to be Batman, he would
be the Batman in.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, like like Spider Man in Civil War, like
that type of thing where we introduce Batman in a mood,
like or what they did with afflic right, They did
that with Affleck They introduce them bvs and then he
was in Just League Flash, et cetera. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't mind that. I mean, BBS,
it's say what you will about it. I think it's
still pretty exciting because you get wonder Woman and you
get yeah, Bruce Wayne's Batman in there, so you get
the you get a whole og three team up, and
I like that. I like that a lot, So I'd
be down for them to do something like that here
with with them teaming up. I think that's cool. I
don't need it to be a carbon copy. You don't
have to go ahead and give me like, oh Martha
and then just being pissed off at each other.
Speaker 1: I don't think they will have them fight. There might
be a scene of tension, but I don't think they'll
throw even a fist at each other or anything like that,
because I think that you do that is a little
dangerous if you go Superman and then the Superman Batman
team but a lot of people be like, well, this
is what we just did. Like even then, you're starting
the DCU off the same way the DCEU start right
with a Superman movie a little bit different, non origin,
but still let's see. Samuel says the Batman had a
generation who got into it through the Nolan trilogies. Superman
really have any recent iteration to get twenty to thirty
year olds excited all. This is a leveled question because
there's people we talk with and people that listen to
the show and the network that would disagree with me,
and you never know the numbers. Here here's where I am,
because that situation would be the DCU, right. You would say, Hey,
a lot of people grew with Cavil and I got
them the Superman. I know two people and not talking
about us like podcasts world like people that are normal.
I like, yeah, we're not normal. People that are don't
through this. They just moviegoers that I know like BVS.
And they're only even love It's like, you know, oh yeah,
I had a good time with that. Most people like
and that's just BVS. Right, But most people I talked
to and I don't know if people have seen the
Snyder cut because I haven't met a real person I
think that's watched a four hour movie of that because
they just weren't invested, right. The people that I talked
to in the Man of Steel BVS route that era
that were not in our circles. We're not a fan
of that type of stuff. And I know people. I
debated this many times with Ray from Flight clat Cast
and we have many different opinions and stuff. Many people
will say, well, because of what they did to Justice
League with the Snyder cut, they made that movie so bad.
That's why that movie bombed, and that's why it didn't
do well. To me, that movie didn't do well because
after BVS, I think a lot of people checked out,
and I had a lot of things where I used
to go to movies a lot of people, and I
remember when Justly was coming out, Oh, Justly come out,
very little excitement for that movie. And the people I
would usually go with that were like friends on podcast. Friends.
They were going like, Yeah, this isn't really for me,
you know, And you can't say, oh, well they grew up. No,
they're seeing fucking Endgame and Civil War. They're all there
for that. But for Justice League and that type of stuff,
it petered off, right, And I think all Command's the
exception of that rule just kind of happened. But I
personally don't think there's been anything from the past. Sam
You says like the past, I'd say like ten to
fifteen years that made people love Superman, But where are you?
Because he does bring a good point right where people
fell in love with the Batman character. Again with the
Nolan trilogy. It doesn't matter that BVS happened, Like the
Nolan trilogy was iconic and that created a whole new
generation of fans. Do you think there's a whole new
generation of fans here for Superman? I?
Speaker 2: I mean, I certainly hope. So that's what they're kind
of the they're banking on. They gotta land it with
this next the next generation, because you have your original,
like older demographic that grew up with with those old
Superman movies, and there are kind of they are aging out.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that don't movies. I remember,
before you continue, my parents in laws when they saw
Michael Keaton preving the Flash, like, oh, that's great, I'm
gonna go see that. And then when it came time
that guy, nah, we didn't see that one. We'll just
wait for home. You know. So at the time they
might want to, but there's a generation of that people
really like they can wait and they've seen a bunch
of this stuff. So continue. I just wanted to say
that to your point there, so well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so when it comes to our generation, we
haven't really had much for Superman. Maybe I'm just being
blunt about it because we did get the castle thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think anything like Dark Knight changed the game.
Iron Man changed the game, Spider Man like changed the
game like those like even Guardians to the level you
can say, hey, that changed the game for certain things,
but I don't think Superman had Both those Superman films
were very divisive, right, Yeah. They were passionate people that
loved and hated them.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's true. And so I just remember when
I was a kid, well more like a teenager, and
my dad went on and bought Superman returns and DVD
and he's like, oh, let's watch this. This is I
think in the retro I say this, this is my
first kind of experience with Superman as a character on
a movie. So yeah, it's just it was kind of
passed us by. And the hype that was in there
for Man of Steel was because it was after the
Nolan trilogy, yes, and I just remember produced Yeah, I
was like, oh, man, are they setting us up for
like a call like like the Combining Universe or something
like that.
Speaker 1: Even then though it looked more mature too, right, and
it was, but it looked more like, oh, they're gonna
do what they did with Superman with Batman, right, and
that's what I was looking I was very because I'm
not a Superman guy. I was looking very forward to
Man of Steel. I don't love the movie because I
think there's a lot of writing flaws, but I think
that was their chance, and I think the problem with
that is it was, in my opinion, Man of Steeler's
nowhere near the park of Batman Begins and Dark Knight,
And you know, maybe it's a hot take or Dark
Knight rises to me like, I think those are all different.
I don't think they're in the same ballpark. Do you
think Man of Steel's near those movies?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where a lot of people, if
it was even just Man of Steel, you would have
got a whole bunch of people. And it's debated, but
that's where it's still divisive. You can have that fifty
percent that think it's and I know many people that's
their fair combook movie, like in the Vakus stream circles.
I run, I get that, but a lot of like
I think the main streament wasn't. Hunter Eggy says Man
still made six seventy but inflation nine fifteen again, infa
shouldn't matter because BVS made I think it was eight
hundred or whatnot. But because it didn't make a billion
like Avengers and other ones, they went, Okay, it doesn't
matter again. They changed everything, they au said Snyder, and
the inflation is not gonna matter because they're not like, Hey,
in ten years from now, it's gonna cost it, it's
gonna make this much. No. At the time, it was, Hey,
all these movies that the Marvel Disney brands putting out,
making Avengers, we just put our two biggest superheroes, which
I don't care what people say. I've had this debate
with other people too. In the Vogastream Realm, BVS should
have made a billion, and not every film has to
make a billion, But that to me was a fucking layup,
And that to me shows how device of that movie
was because you have the two most iconic characters of
all time you know or you know in that Realm
also Spider Man, and it didn't do that that to me,
and you still Water Woman too, Like to me, that
is a sign of there was a group appeal that
we're not into that stuff. Superman. Mike says, if Drassic
World unperformance. Do you think that affects Superman? Definitely because
I would like that or Fantastic Four, Like, no matter what,
there's gonna be a third place, even though it would
be kind of funny if all the film like let's
say all the films made like six twenty six point
fifty and then be like, wow, it's really divided. But
I think, no matter what, there's going to be like
in quotations, a loser. The hope is just the losers,
not anyone like below five hundred million, right, hopefully losers
not us and we all enjoy these movies, but like
for the studios, they all want to make a profit,
of course, so I do. I think it's tough though,
because there's two ways you can look at that mic
where it's like, hey, let's say Jurassic World rebrief comes
in and it's a lot lower than it has before.
Then I could say, oh, yeah, maybe people are saving
their money for a Superman. But then you could also say, well,
people just didn't like that last Drastic World and that's
why they bounced right like or same thing they're saying
it for four. Like it's tough, especially today's in age,
there's no one answer for why it is, But what
do you think do you think if drafts World and performs,
that affects Supman or do you think that's like a
secluded thing. Do you think there's a chance people are
waiting for the next week for Superman? Or if it
does poorly it's because people are weren't a fan of X,
Y and Z.
Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1: Good job around chat, we're goingting some good questions, some
good thinkers tonight, you know.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, so.
Speaker 1: Is that a secluded Superman or do you think that's
a more box office this summer of why it could?
If it did poor, of course right, it could be
a huge. But if it did poor, is it it's
his own problem or the other movies that affected it more?
Speaker 2: I think it's the other movies. I think a big
topic conversation that I have with people these days and
we're talking about movies, is people just say, oh, they're
not making anything great anymore, dah da da dah. And
so I think if people watch one movie like Jurassic
World and under performs, then I think they're gonna just
have the mentality just spoon fed. Oh they just can't
make a great movie. No, you heard of Time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: I think that I think that's just kind of like
the stigma of the stereotype going around right now with
the box office.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's where again, it's not that I think
you could talk about the blockbusters like that. But then
we've talked about this all the time. There's dozens, if
not hundreds of movies a year that released that are
great movies, but they're made by some small company that
no one's watched, you know, and it's like very small.
Even Sinners that to me is a fantastic movie, but
it still has only made two hundred and thirty five
million dollars, right, Like, that's not a massive box office.
It's huge for US film fans, but a lot of
people I think just think of like the biggest movies
aren't the ones, we're the ones nominated for Oscars that
they haven't seen. But uh as supposed to Superman point says,
the most I've seen a Superman as a kid was
when you could play his lego Batman too. But at
the same time, I don't think necessarily you need to
already have fans, Like I don't think that many young
people were huge top Gun fans before Mavericks and absolutely
s bumps. I was somebody that I didn't think was
gonna maybe bomb, but I was like who, like who? Yeah,
I think I did say who cares? Or I was
along the lines like top Gun in this day and
age like is that really gonna matter? And it didn't matter? Right,
It put its thumb on the pulse, had a great soundtrack,
get great cast, that movie looked sexy, has great set
pieces and and SPUs is right, didn't matter. There was
not a bunch of people talking about top Gun, right,
And I think Superman could like have the potential to
be that. I do think out of the three to
have that water cooler movie is Superman because I think
it appeals to all ages, with Crypto, with even you know,
fans of the eighties, with new fans the superhero genre,
and I think they're I think that cast is like
a sexy cast too, Like I think, like not that
you said, but I just mean there's something like people like
watching good looking people, right, and I think like Rachel
and David together they look great as Clark and lois
like there's just something there and they look all my
some pretty we even Scarjo and he's pretty woman is
like they you know, she's covered in dirt doing all
this stuff. Like David cornsweat he's looking fucking hot as
Superman or here right like he's got some stuff going
on in the background. He's gotta messed up suit. But yeah,
we'll see because I asked that. I'm not sure if
I said this on the podcast, but my like nephew
in law like saw minecraft and he got the Superman
preview and I'm like, oh, like, what'd you think about that? Again?
And not really for me, I'm like, are you Superman fanel?
Like no, and he's about he's like thirteen to fourteen,
like a Superman fanel No, not really? What about your friends?
He saw the me with No, I don't think they're
seeing it. And I was like, okay. And I've always said
that too, that that could be a thing where people
just Superman is just too old and he's played on.
People don't care. Hunter says if James and Superman movie
makes six fifty with inflation eight fifty at a two
hundred million, again, I don't think that would matter. If
if they're saying their goals five hundred and then seven
hundred is the big thing. They're not gonna be like,
oh well only a five hundred, but with inflation it
would have been this. It's today's money. It's about like
I said, no one talks about Going with the Wind
being the top movie. It's Avatar, right, even if that's
a bad thing to talk about, that's the case. But anyway,
so go to this situation again. Yeah, chat, I you've
got more questions, anything pop off? Please do because we
got I didn't pimp it all that talking I did
alone without Taylor. We got this topic and then we
got tons of trailers coming up. But I want to
get your thoughts on this. So two things that had
come out the past week. That again this came from
the Wrap that supposedly, at one point before Gunn was hired,
they were talking to Michael Bay about doing a Man
of Steel sequel. And then another thing that came out
because obviously Mission Impossible came out in promotion stuff like that.
This was rumored a long time ago, around twenty seventeen,
like after Fallout that supposedly McCrory and Henry cavill had
gone and pitched a Superman movie to Warner Brothers, and
I guess they passed, but he's shed more details that
there's gonna be a green lantern in there, he said,
which I would love to see the script. He said
that the first five minutes of the movie was achned
up where something really big happened and that set the
stage for the rest of the movie. I'm again, I
guess that they maybe killed Loff Lois if you're saying up,
because but even then that would have been interesting. So
what do you think about this that there were you know,
these you know, whether they were pitches or talked about
this idea of Michael Bay or the Christopher McCrory team,
and the big idea was that Tom Cruise was gonna
be Hal Jordan at that time too, right, So what
do you think about these these rumblings that have came
out that were from the past, And are is there
any one of those that you're like, Man, you know,
I like James Gunn, but I wish I wish we
would have got this instead. Like what did you think
about when you heard the Bay news and the Cruise
McCrory news.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Well, I just it's it's kind of
it's weird to think about, just like a Man of
Steel Too, I guess in that in that sense.
Speaker 1: So I don't know about Michael Bay. McCrory said that
his Man of Steel Too would have none of the
stuff in the first one would have been ignored. They
wouldn't reckon anything, but it would have been very more standalone.
She's like, you know how you can watch Batman and
Batman Returns, they're not that linked together, right, Like there
it's it's keen on another venture. So McCrory at least
made sound like it was gonna be Cavil another adventure
and stuff. And I imagine it's probably cosmic if Green
Lantern was involved with some space stuff, et cetera. So
that's where. But still both these movies, we're gonna be
a sequel with Henry Cavill.
Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, And I think that's that's interesting. It's
I mean, it's fun to think about the idea that
Michael Bay would be attached to any of these projects
is just kind of it's it's I can't see it
like it is wild because I mean, the last thing
I saw of his was was an ambulance.
Speaker 1: That came out last Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was the last thing I saw and
then before that obviously just transformers galore. So maybe that's
the only kind of sense where they thought like, oh,
you know, he he's got that chaos and destruction down
where a whole city is being Yeah, big scope kind
of a thing. And so maybe that's that's all they
were looking for at the time, like this could fit
with our mo O for what we wanted a Superman
movie with a city being destroyed.
Speaker 1: But that's those Transformer movies, right, like all those they
could look at that and being like, oh, that's what
we want for Superman, right, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if that would have been
the greatest thing, uh for for Superman, but it would
have been different from the well would have been different
from the first one, I guess. I feel like the
first one it's such a slow burn because they're really
tackling this humanity.
Speaker 1: I don't think slow burn with Bay. I think it
would have been grip it and rip it, which but
I think, yeah, no slow burn there.
Speaker 2: So no, no, you there really isn't. You're just with
Michael Bay. I feel like you get like crew jokes
and uh, just high octane all the time.
Speaker 1: Amy Adams would have been dressed in some skimpy clothing.
Speaker 2: No, it would have been Megan Foxes as Lois Lane.
Speaker 1: No, but Amy, it was still calling Udy, same conn Udy.
So yeah something, Yeah, I'm not a Lane. And then
you know she's like Superman has to save her from
a tree and you see up her skirt like, I
don't know, ma'am, you should be wearing underwear. So what
about coy and Cruises lantern and all that jazz?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, that's that's interesting because wasn't Tom Cruise
supposed to be an Iron Man at one point?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he usually original, one of the original people. But
then he wanted to the mask not to cover there's
a bunch of rumors they didn't want the mask to
cover his face, and it it sounds like they couldn't
creatively get on the same page. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just feel like he is someone who has wanted
to get his toes wet and uh a superhero project
of some kind. So that's that one that's interesting. Him
is a green lantern too. You know I could see
something like that, I could picture it. I I don't
know how far he would take it. I feel like
if it didn't get off of its feet, right away.
He probably would have bowed out pretty quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a question because I think Fallout, Yeah,
fall Outs the biggest, most profitable mission impossible movies. So
you'd have to think if like, let's say that movie
comes out, then two and a half years later you
got all that marketing of Henry Cavill and that was
most popular to ever been, you got Tom Cruise and
then all of the marketing you can say from the
director from the tem a mission Fallout right like, like,
I do think that would have been a hip Michael
bay One, I don't know. I think we're corey with
coming off the hype of Fallout. I think they would
have I think that would have succeeded. And there's other
stuff in there that could have been doing, but I
think that was the time. And yeah, it's tough to
is there. Yeah, before you move on, are you happy
we're getting what we're getting with James Gunn or is
there any of these two that you wish you would
have got more.
Speaker 2: I'm happy because I mean we're getting Green Lantern and
you know they're I mean, he's choosing to start off
with a new Superman, So there's that. So it just
feels like it's kind of like pulled from between the
two that you had pitched there, where we're getting Green
Lantern and then we're getting more Superman in this project.
So it's like a spiritual successor in a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bay, I think there's some fun stuff there, but
not I don't think Superman. I think Superman still needs
some subtlety and some earnestness, and I don't think Michael
Bay has had that in his films for a long time,
even though in Ambulance there's some great moments with the brothers.
I think I think Superman needs a bit more tack
per se. McCrory, I don't know how. I'd love to
know the meetings. I would love to know why. I
will say that James gun is probably better for what
they're doing right now. If they want the DCU a universe.
McCrory is not that guy, because I think they're gonna
take it one film at a time. Right, They're putting
Tom Cruise as the Lantern because it fits, not because well,
Tom will want to set you up for ten out
of the projects, right, I don't think that's it. I
think if you were in the era of Hey, we're
just gonna make one offs like back in the day,
like Marvel and DC. We're just gonna you know, own connuities,
no crossovers. McCrory is a great pick. And then it's
tough because I could say, maybe on paper that movie
versus what James Gunn could make. I think there's a
chance the mccuory movie could be better because even though
I had lots of problems with or with Final Reckoning,
there's some fantastic stuff in the Fallouts or in all
those movies they did together, and I the other thing
will have to be because I for the most time
there's obviously you know, moments where it doesn't work. But
I really enjoyed the humor on the Mission Possible Followut
franchise or just a mission Postle franchise and mccrey did
with them. With James Gunn, I enjoy a lot of
his humor. Don't get me wrong. I gave all those
Guardians movies perfect scores. I love the Holiday Special. But
I've said this before, I don't want that humor in Superman.
You know where mc corey like that to me, the
humor Mission Possible, that is like the right to humor.
I would like in a Superman movie, that's pretty pitch
perfect Guardians or suicide Squad, Creature Commandos. I don't want
that in Superman. If that stuff happens, each joke will
like actively start to take down a score. There could
be like a certain character that does in a certain
scene and maybe it'll work, sure, but I don't want
them to have that same vibe. So if I trust
someone making the better movie, yeah, I don't know how
Warner Brothers turned that down. Fallout was the biggest one yet,
catled so much hype. If you have Tom Cruise on board,
don't know how you're saying no at that point, Like
that just shows to me how like Warner Brothers were
just just idiots. Just back then we're idiots and hopefully
they're not now, but just idiots of like all these
people Ruse Cavin, McCrory have never been hotter, and you're like,
we're good, and it's like it's a it's not and
how easy is it too? Him and Cavill already works
together and they're not even saying like a matter we
came like we want to reboot it, we want to
do this. It's just because I don't know for sure,
but maybe it's just because it was tied to the
zach Snyer films, they really wanted to distance themselves. But
to me, that was I think a mistake. But and
who knows, because maybe that movie comes out it's a
big hit, and we're talking about Man Steel three or
four right now, right and this universe doesn't happen. I
don't know, And that's a whole different can of worms.
But I think it's interesting to see how incompetent Warner
Brothers kind of was back then. And I wish we
got that movie. You can't get both right because I
think we Oh, what was the other chicken and egg scenario? Oh,
I can't remember. Oh, it's when we talked about Superman returns.
When we did that retro check it on Patren. We
reviewed every single movie, right, and I think I can't remember.
I think you guys actually were no, but I someone
was like, oh, I would actually like the scene more.
But then when you ask me, would you like to
see a Superman's Return sequel or Man of Steel? Well, no,
I still like Man Still more than this, And if
you did a sequel, you would actively take that out right,
so same thing. Maybe I'll see James Gunn Superman in
a month and we'll go, Wow, this is an all timer.
If you got the McQuary one, this wouldn't exist, right,
the same way as like if Batman and Robin is
a hit, the Batman Begins does not exist. They go
out and make Batman Vengeance with Nicholas Cage's Scarecrow and
Madonna's Harley Quinn and and I'm sure there's aspects of
that that are fun and great, but to me, I
much prefer that Batman begins. So that's where it's like
we all have to see now again, cut to this
in a month. If I'm here given James gun Superman
a six out of ten, you're damn right. I wish
here was a Christopher McCrory is Superman, you know. So
it's all about perspective. But I trust James Gunn like
I I don't think that could be any at least
a seven point five. If it's lower than seven point five,
I'm I'm pretty worried. Do you do you have a
scale of what you think at least Man's gonna be
with the creative team they have right now.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm I'm all on to say it'll probably be
at least to seven.
Speaker 1: At least a seven. Okay, so anything lower than seven,
that's when you're starting to be a little let down
by it.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, no no room for error and.
Speaker 1: That no no room for air. So yeah, so we
will be Actually no, we just took our No we didn't,
so we all take our next ad break and we'll
be right back. All right, we are back. So we
got tons of trailers to talk about. But before we
get that, because now we're gonna get some questions for Patreon,
I want to bring up cocktail, Clay, he asked us.
I'll get the correct quote here. It was something that
I was surprised that would come a different time. But hey,
here it is for Weekly Geek the best and worst
ideas for a summer date night, Taylor, what do you
what do you got cooking there for best and worse?
Speaker 2: Best and words? Well, first of all, Clay, if you
ever you know you need those those dats for us
summer date ideas, you can message me any time. You know,
I have to use up your your Patreon question For this.
Speaker 1: Joint Patreon you get unlimited questions. There's no cash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a good summer date idea. Well, you gotta
first thing is first. You gotta you can't just do
one thing. You gotta make sure you've got like multiple
things lined up. You always gotta incorporate food of some kind.
So it could be like a quick you know, go
to a cool like hip chic restaurant like not something
like super classy or fancy.
Speaker 1: She don't do the bank. Yeah, that's what I did
on Emily's first date. And I though I took her
on the first date, I can't remember. Oh what that
place was called? Was downtown Kelowna. I'll ask Emily on
our first date? Well, yeah, because you got to remember,
you know, people don't know this. Emily is three sometimes
four years older than me, so I was I was
like nineteen eighteen, So I was like, I gotta impress
this this older woman. So I I took her a
nice place that night of I put in a good shift.
I was like, I gotta pull out all all the
moves here. So I can't remember god where it was,
but it's closed down now, so let me find out.
But yeah, first night, I did take her out to
a very expensive place.
Speaker 2: So well that's fair. You know, to each his own.
I'm not I'm not someone who think i'd take someone
to like a super fancy place in the first for me,
you know, my my wife like the fancy restaurants and
stuff that came. It came after you know, we were
she had to earn it. She had to earn it.
But then when we got married, we've got we started
going to the real fucking fancy place, like real expensive
and it's like, oh, the like the meat just it
never had a meat like that in my life. But anyways,
like go to go somewhere, you know, slide the food
in there. And if you slide the food in with
like a cool activity, something fun, something a little bit.
You know, people aren't really doing that much anymore, like
go ruler blade and do something cool like I from
my experience, I took my wife on our first aid
acts throwing, and I was a hell of a lot
of fun because we turned to a game we were
throwing access Like okay, so the next.
Speaker 1: Time was before she met she was she was. I thought.
Speaker 2: It was bold, but yeah, so that we we I
incorporated bit of a game in there, you know, being
playful just like okay, like if you.
Speaker 1: You ever watch to show you holy fuck.
Speaker 2: But yeah, just like whoever whoever lends the acts doesn't
have to pay for dinner kind of a thing like that.
And of course I lost, and so I paid for
dinner purpose. I don't think I did. No, I think
I think I tried to try my heart out, but uh,
she's a natural act store. But then after that, then
we we snuck in with with a movie at the
end on a movie theaters, movie back at my place.
You know, just bring them back, you know, the cozy
one on one kind of kind of a time. But uh,
I'd say, yeah, so incorporate food, do an activity, make
the activity, like you know, you're grown adult, so you
don't have to be like playful kids or anything like that.
But just like try and tap into that kind of
like fun youth kind of like like have you go lucky,
Like let's just go have a blast kind of like
you know, fun vibes don't have to be formal and
you know, black tie suits, sit at a fancy restaurant
table like chair and just like talk job, talk shop
anything like that, like have fun, be relaxed and.
Speaker 1: Just get all dressed up for my date. I had
a complete opposite. Not a summer date though my ours
is winter, so there you go a little bit different.
Speaker 2: Winter that is different. That is different. Yeah, yeah, worst date,
worse summer date, worst summer date. This is tricky and
I was thinking about this one. Oh actually, okay, okay,
this is more like an experience rather than maybe like
an idea. But if you live by the ocean, you
always gotta be careful where you're going, because specifically oceans,
I mean some oceans are worse than others. Sometimes you
find lots of unsuspecting secretors and stuff like that. But
for the most part, whenever I go back to my hometown, like,
we got ocean there, and so I like to bring
my wife and my daughter out to the beach and
just check it out because it's a lot of fun.
The fresh air and just you know, you can see
the wildlife and everything like that. It's an absolute blast.
But on top of that, you also run the risk
of some of that wildlife not necessarily being conscious is
the right word. Well, maybe not conscious. I'll just say
when I went to this beach one time with previous
person I was dating, I thought, oh, this will be
a great time. We'll go to the beach and it'll
just be beautiful and everything like that. And right at
the it was like a long staircase going down. Right
at the end of the staircase on the beach was
there is a seal with its head smashed in. This
is a horrible date. It was absolutely horrible. So it
was pull my axe out right out your turn. So
just make sure you pick the right location because some
locations where you're relying on there to be some maybe
some wildlife. You can really run the risk of nature
just like ah, just ripping into shreds and just you know,
being a little bit too oh natura real. So uh yeah,
watch out for for nature and wildlife.
Speaker 1: Okay, So best ideas I'd say, like just beat up,
find the closest alley and then just raw dog the
fuck at each other. No, I'm joking. I think it
has to be like that.
Speaker 2: One I know someone that's happened, so.
Speaker 1: You know more than one people, I think. Uh. For me,
I think honestly, you always comes down to the person
and the differences and who they are. For me, in
the summer and spring, the hike is the way to
go a good walk because I feel like what happens
is on uh don't ever, and I guess so here
the worst it is obviously if it's super hot, that
changes it. But I think a movie Taylor's right, movie
at someone's house, that's fine. A movie the theater terrible,
worst day idea ever, because you don't talk like you
don't right, you just sit there and you're in silence
for a few hours. I think you could do a
movie and then go get dinner after. But a lot
of people get dinner and see a movie. Go get
the movie and then see the after. But I would
say a movie unless it's just Scorching Heart, but then
do it at your place. So I think a movie
first date is like a is a bad thing because
you just don't vibe with each other. And maybe there's
a chance she, you know, especially Uclay, you know, really
loves this movie. You just fucking hate it and you're like, oh,
it's on the one you know where once you start
to like them, you go, okay, I'll give them some credence.
But the hike to me is the best one because
I feel like and that has to be like a
somewhat lengthy and I'm not sure exactly the locations you
would go clay. But to me, it's like that forty
five minute hour because even when you're getting dinner at
a date or something like that, you're gonna talk about, like, oh,
how's your day been, give me a little bit about
your life? If this is like early on, right. But
then what happens is you get food. Also you're still
talking about you're eating, and then the date ends and
maybe you're gonna go back to someone's place. Maybe it's
just the first date you're feeling things out. I feel
like with a hike, you start to have conversations that
you would not have on a on a dinner date
or a situation where you're maybe just together for an hour,
because if you're you know, with Taylor's it worked out
for him. But if you're in a date where there's
lots of activities, sometimes that takes away from the conversation.
And it depends where I'm a talker and I like
get to know somebody the hike and the walk and stuff.
That's great because once you've been walking for half an hour,
you've done the whole like, oh, how's work being, how's
your family? Like you've talked about like the basic minimum
stuff then you start to get deeper, and I think
that's where either you realize one we're not good for
each other, or two you start to you start to
make more of an imprint on that person as far
as who your personality is and vice versa. And that's
where I feel to me, that's just like you're always
getting to know more. And that's a good thing too.
Is the next time you own that hike, if you
do it again, I think it's multiple dates are good
because you're you've already talked about that deeper stuff, so
you're just gonna can you go deeper and deeper? And
I just feel like you start to get a really
good cadence. And I would suggest on the bad side,
you can't do a couple, but I'd say those first hikes,
make sure it's not like it's tough, because you would say, hey,
let's go hike, and yeah, well yeah we go, let's
go hike, and I could I bring a couple of friends.
You don't want to say no, So I'm not saying
never do hikes with your friends and her friends or
vice versa, or his friends. Not sure, whatever way you're going, Clay,
that's fine, But like you want to get at least
a couple likes by yourself, because the friends can create
different dynamics, right, They undercut you, they get in the
way at the same time if you're trying to press them.
Sometimes it goes great. Those friends love you then so go, man,
I'm really in and I like her. That's great, But
I think you need to kind of bounce that be
like a one with me, one with that, and that's tough, right,
Same thing that person keeps kind of always mention their
friends and bring their friends along. Maybe that's not the
greatest because just or that could just be something that
they have some anxiety stuff they don't want to be alone.
Same thing too, don't like Teyo's joke, Like unfortunately the
way man has been the last forty years, lots of
men have ruined it for people, right, So there may
be some people legitimly that nothing is wrong with them.
They just might be scared to go on a hike
with a mail they don't know with nowhere else, right
like that thing. So that's where it pick somewhere very
public like Mission Creek when we go that's for a
place like that's somewhere where there's it's an open area,
but you're always bumping into people. So if there's a
place like that, go and if you can't hike in
the wood, somewhere where there's people, because then it's like, okay,
even if he's a fucking axe murder, someone's gonna hopefully
save me. So that's why i'd say worst idea is
something with friends or you know the uh like the
movie or some event where you're not talking much you
can't talk, or you know, best date, long walk, you know,
even then there's a long walk to the beach. If
you can find a long beach, do that. So there
you go. That's a very random question, Clay, but Gray,
that was a fun conversation there. All right, So we're
gonna talk about trailers here. So we're gonna do the
Netflix ones first and then we'll probably take our next
ad break and you know, nice easy cutout for Taylor.
There's this motorcycle guy that he's going to do. You you
hear him.
Speaker 2: Hear them, Oh, I hear him, I hear them.
Speaker 1: Fucking bastard.
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like a motorcycle. That sounds like a
little tiny little thing. Oh no, it's fifty cc little kart.
Speaker 1: There's actually a chainsaw on some guys just chasing a
girl down the street. I asked him if everything was okay.
He said they were just on his first date though,
So I'm like, okay, whatever you're into. But uh yeah.
So there's a lot of trailers, so we usually throw
a bunch at them at you, but I'm just gonna
go one by one. Let's start. We were talking about
Clay Happy Gilmore Too. This is out in July and
of July. How are you feeling about this? You mentioned
discord very big ties to geek versus cause in Target
where we were all met, it was either Happy Gilmore
or Frozen one or two just one, yeah, Frozen one
that was on the TV all the time, depending who's
on there. So obviously I think we've all stressed that we're,
you know, big fans. We like this first film. How
are you feeling about Happy Gilmore Too.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling pretty good about it after watching the trailer,
Like there's some stuff that seems a little bit like okay,
and it's definitely not on that first movie tier where
I mean they're trying to write off some of the
jokes like oh you eat pieces like something like for breakfast.
And I mean there's a few other things in there too,
but I that first one is pure gold. And again
it's the nostalgia because I can't even remember, like we
were working five days a week.
Speaker 1: And every days a week.
Speaker 2: Now, well I do now, but back then, back then,
I'm still working five days a week, and every time
I was on my lunch, I was just popping that
into the DV player and watching Happy Gilmour. So this trailer,
he got me excited. He got me really really pumped.
I don't remember. We didn't see Why can't I remember
his name, Ben Stiller? His character? Did we?
Speaker 1: Yep?
Speaker 2: He was in the trailer. Yeah, oh I remember, I remember, now, Okay,
he's like a fit.
Speaker 1: Like running like a help group or something like that.
And same thing. He drops the same line like, oh,
I'm in charge now, like I'm on the lead. Opposite spectrum,
I'm with Clay where I think we're getting another anchorman
to Zoolander two when they start doing that whole let's
do just the same joke, but a variation the same
like when you talk about the eat the pieces of
shit for breakfast, of like, oh, why would I listen
to guy who does that, it's like, okay, we've done that.
When you meet CHIPS's son and he also is missing
an arm.
Speaker 2: Got me no no no no no.
Speaker 1: No no no no no no. When they remember there's
that tall, super tall guy in the first one that
was like, yeah, he was running. In this one they
have some guy that looks like him where he has
like a wig and he's a taller guy. So I'm
very worried other than a few things. And they do
that trope too where they get rid of the love interest.
I'm pretty sure she's dead because anytime you see her
looks like she's in the happy place. So Anchorman two,
same thing broke them up right away. Zoom Lander two
killed off Matilda right away. That's just something I feel like,
not trying to be mean, but I feel like some
people can't keep these characters together because that that was
the endpoint where they're like, oh, they go happily every after.
So when they have to make a sequel, they never
planned for it. They're not creatively enough to go, oh, man,
what should we do with her? Well, we have no
idea is let's just kill it off. Let's ride her out.
If it's a sequel that happens a couple of years
after the first. Then I'm more forgiving because like, okay,
they even like Deadpool, right, It's like you had to
do this to get to x Y and Z Vanessa
couldn't be around. But when it's years later, it just
feels like they have nothing, you know, m Jeffson there
shout out to the gimmick he plays on Adam's Anderson
don't know why they have Happy Gilmore having like seven kids.
And this is coming from a guy that has five
kids himself, but it just feels like like he didn't
have a big family. And the show, like I or
the original, just something off about that. But that stuff
at least was newer and looked the most interesting all
this stuff in the golf course, I was really worried about.
I'll watch this. I'm not sure if we'll do an
official review or just what we've been watchable see because
it's Jelyne. That's very busy for us, but I know
we'll talk about some point. Yeah, I'm I'm officially very worried,
like very very concerned for Happy Gilmore too. I think
this is gonna be a soul crushing experience and it's
the Emmy one I'll watch and this one I'll probably
never watch again, like Anger Man two I've never watched again,
and Zoolander two, I think I've only watched another. I've
been threatening to watch it again to try and give
it one more shot, but I've only seen that twice.
I think we're going down the route it just and yeah,
none of the jokes really worked for me, and I
hate you can do a couple flashback jokes. And maybe
that's what this showing because it's the trailer. But this
gave me the whole vibe of like type of.
Speaker 2: Like, oh oh we lost uh lost a little microphone.
There technical difficulties, but he's back.
Speaker 1: Why you're talking like we're driving airplane chatz whoa whoa
d story weatto pilot staff phone when I'm buying a
new fucking mic court so sauce. But yeah, officially worried
about Happy Gilmore too. What I'm not worried about for
the most part, Germo del Toro's Frank Stein, what did
you think about this? Obviously? You know, movie monsters making
a big comeback. We got Moss for aw too, Girmando
Toro big into the movie monsters and tragic characters and heroes.
What do you think about this? Oscar Isaac we had
me a golf. We didn't see him, but Jacob a
lowerd he's in this. So what did you think of
this trailer?
Speaker 2: Yeah? This, uh, it got me excited. I mean, I
really do love the movie Monsters Making a Comeback, I
really really do. But this just this seemed like it
was just that Toro classic, colorful, flamboyant inness that I'm
not necessarily like super super big on. It has like
an operatic kind of vibe to it.
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, And remember I thought you liked the hell
Boy movies and stuff. Am I wrong?
Speaker 2: I do like the hell Boy movies, and I don't
know why. It's just there's some kind of energy attached
to those that it really really just pulls me in.
But when it comes to like the Monster Verse movies,
like the Number, one that just always just gets me
is just Ben Holsing. I feel like that's that's they
did find. I can sign right with that one. I
really really like it. So but that being said, I
I like there's certain tones in this movie and this
trailer that are attractive that I want to see. And
I like that scene when they're on that that ship
or whatever, and it's just like you hear that ru
the Frankenstein is just fucking swinging around, just beating up,
beating them. Yeah, so I'm down to see him pop
off there.
Speaker 1: Do you think they show him before the movie or
do you think they do the nos for a two rot?
Speaker 2: I think they'll do the nos forra too.
Speaker 1: Ro I agree. I have a smart route too. Even
if you look shit or has like a fucking porn stash,
that's the way to go. Yeah, Germo was interesting because
I really enjoy a lot of his stuff. There's some
stuff I even love. I love visually some things that
you do. Like a movie that I think is very
unappreciated is one, uh one call I don't know what
I'm saying it, but one called Crimson Peak that's like
a goth chors. Love the way that movie. He looks
very slow and paste, very different on movie. But big
fan of that one as far as what they're going for.
So I love the set design of all this. Oscar Isaac,
who knows well how the year goes. He was looking like, man,
we'll probably we could be talking about him come Golden
Geek's time for like best Actor, because he just looked
like he's going through it and he just looks like
he's playing the Great Victor Ring and something. I don't know,
there's just something he just looked just doing a tour
de force here. It has to do a lot here.
I love how big scale this venture is because Alstin
Frankenstein is Okay, it's in a lab. They put the
little intent up and it happens right. This looks like
he's traveling the globe to succeed this. Even when he's
climbing up to like get the antennas for the lightning strike,
it's like a massive thing that he's climbing and putting,
like the metal rod in and stuff. I think, for me,
what a loss lost me? A little bit was the
the last little bit because I'm somebody that's not the
biggest fan of his hell Boys, and it felt more
only a sliver of it, but still that Sepha Frankenstein
felt like a little action where they're like they're holding
like a gun or something. Too many breaks in and
just the way and I'm hoping it's the way the
trailers edited, but it just looked like it was an
action beat that I would see in a hell boy.
So I was enjoying this and this is definitely one
that I'm anticipating because Germo is fantastic. Like the last Pinocchio,
he made absolutely love that like I did, so I'm
expecting for sure for me to really enjoy still be
a good movie. She's a question of how much. And
that's where I don't think it hit the level of
I remember the first time I saw the nos Faratu
trailer recently, that was somewhere it's like wow, step up,
can't wait? Even something like weapons coming up? Was Zach
Gregor Like, that's where when I saw a trailer like
okay wow, I was expecting that with this movie, I
was expecting okay wow, I'm really excited right now, I'm
just okay, I'm excited. Definitely gonna be a day one. Definitely.
Maybe that's even when i'd be down or view more
than happy Gilmore because I think it'll be more fault
But uh yeah, I'm very curious. I liked a lot
of what we saw visually, and I think acting while
oscaris is gonna kill because he's one of the best
out there. So what about Uh, let's see uh the
Thursday murder cloud. What do you think about this? We
got Bank Kingsley, Pierce Bros. And hell Mirron.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: They're they're solving some mysteries together. Uh, and they're more
senior age here. So I include this because you know,
a lot of actors we talk about and you know,
for me, Pierce in particularly very much love. But what
what do you think about this? Do you give me
checking this out? There's a skip for you.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna check it out. Pierce and Helen Mirren here?
What was the Amazon Prime show that they were just
together in?
Speaker 1: No, it's Paramount with Plus. It's yeah, kind of watch
it when we get when we subscribe for Dexter in July.
That's what I'm gonna watch mob Land because it'll all
be on and then I'll Paramount Plus again.
Speaker 2: So mm hmmm mm hmmm. Uh well yeah, that's pretty Uh.
It seems like they're they must have great chemistry on
screen together and just be hitting it off. And here, yeah,
here they are, and I'm I'm interested in this. It
looks fun. I had kind of like a Games night
mixed with There's something else. I was watching the trailer.
It made me think of I can't remember it some
of their kind of energy to it. But yeah, it
looks like it's fun and it looks like it's, uh
it's gonna yeah, it's solving cold cases. I'm totally down
for that. I like that kind of stuff, so I'm
there for it.
Speaker 1: So my mic on the last year it says, yeah,
I feel Frankentin has the unfortunate task of measuring up
to Nos for rot to comparisons, It definitely does, and
even where Wolf will have that too next year, right
with uh Aggar's next movie, but that's a little bit
easier because that's his own movie, right, So but with
this it is it is kind of tough. And yeah,
that's where I did prefer what I think this movie
is and what Nos for rotwo was, which is a
very dangerous comparison to make. I just think that I
will prefer what Nos for ROTU was, but you never know,
maybe again trailers or trailers, But yeah, this looks like
lots of fun. I enjoy all the people. Wasn't sure
if this was a series or a movie, and it's
a movie, so yeah, I'm I'm excited too. This comes
out like August twenty nine, to me, it's like a
great Friday night summer watch. Don't know if it's gonna
be amazing. Oh I have to watch this again. But
I'm just hoping that it's not like bad because I
like all these people. That's at least what I'm hoping
for is like okay, solid seven, you know, something like that,
where it's okay, I can enjoy this, but you never know.
Netflix has some great concepts and great casts, and then
we see the movie very very lackluster. So this could
be that. But it seems like it's a bit more
of a simpler plot line. So we'll see in that
same realm. Another murder mystery we got its date. I
don't have it here, but I will find it a
wake up dead Man the third and the Ryan Johnson
Knives Out trilogy that's coming on November. This one's very
much teaser. This was more just to confirm the date
of what was going on, But yeah, what do you
think about this? And obviously stack cast again, this one's
looking a bit more I'd say serious this go around.
I feel like the last two ones have always had
a comedic flare where this feels don't get wrong, I'm
sure it'll have some comedy in there, but this one
definitely felt way more serious or a bit more on
the darker side, which feels a bit weird for Knives
Out and it's always about murder. So it's come out
December twelfth, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, December twelfth, Okay, yeah, because I like the first
Knives Out much more than the second one. The second
one was okay, but there's not There's not a lot
in there that I was really kind of like staticked
with and running on over the hills for. But yeah,
I think this one. I like the seriousness to it,
and I'm curious to see what's going on because it's
kind of snuck up on me. I remember there were
mumblings of apart three or something like that, but I
kind of went over my head when the fact that
we're here now we have this announcement trailer for it.
So this is one that I am definitely excited for though, because,
like I said, the first one is the best in
my opinion so far, the second one was below it,
and this one will we'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no again, That's all I took from it
that it seemed more serious, interesting where we go liking
Daniel Craig's new look here like in the location so far, Yeah,
Cass is very stacked. Yeah, I agree with you that
the first Knives Out is but I still very much
enjoyed the second one, So even if the third one
is that quality, I won't be disappointed. I love watching
Daniel Craig do this thing with a lot of other
talented actors and same thing. Like we'll probably talk about
another trailer in the future, but I don't think these
are the type of movies that the trailers can never
sell me or not sell me on, because as long
as you got Daniel Craig and a great cast, it's
always gonna be like, Okay, what's the actual movie, because
I'm always gonna be there. They could make twenty of
these things, and unless they get really bad, I think
I'll always be there for him. But we'll see, because
you know, Ryan John said he wanted to finish his
trilogy and he's like, oh, I hope there's a place
for me at Star Wars still, so you know, may
maybe we're getting ready for that, but I don't think
we are same route where majority of it was a
more of a you know, alluding to the past and
I look back, but we got a little bit of
new footage, but this was more of a date announcement.
Stranger Things season five, the final season, I said, the
last three seconds was more showing off some new fotish,
not too much. But then they also revealed that they're
releasing this in volume, So they're releasing I think it's
like November twenty six, the other one's Christmas Day and
New Year's Eve. I think it's like a collection of
something like three episodes, three episodes and then the last episode. Obviously,
you gotta remember a lot of these episodes are quite big,
sometimes just full movie length. So one from the little
bit we saw here, what do you think? Two? What
do you think of the release schedule? And three where
is your hype for a Stranger Things right now? On
season five? It's also been a long time since the
show started and since the last season that's constantly a meme.
But where are you personally with all this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Season one was I mean, that was just hype. That
was hype. Season two, season three, and season four we're
picking it back up and I was there for that
was some good shit. So I yes, it's been a while,
but I am I'm very much eagerly anticipating and waiting this.
I think the release schedule is perfect because it starts
the first volume one, releases on my birthday, Volume two Christmas,
and the next New Year's Eve. That's like three banger
days right there.
Speaker 1: So this is the sounds of a man who can't
handle a binge model. You know, it doesn't want to
be spoiled.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, doing that.
Speaker 1: Though Christmas, like when everything's going on, being like, hey,
let's gather around and watch Stranger Things.
Speaker 2: Depending how how this Christmas goes, you know, with people
being all over the place, it might be might be
pretty low key Christmas, So it might work out that way.
Speaker 1: Or you could be busy. You get a family in
town that just makes you busy that you're not even home.
Speaker 2: You know, well, luckily man created.
Speaker 1: Oh god, don't tell you watch Christopher knowing you watching
the final season of Stranger Things on your fucking phone somewhere. Yeah. Yeah,
I guess that all depends the situation. Same thing for us,
So it might be a bit more low key as
the Twins, but yeah, who knows, kind of a kind
of pain. I think one of the seasons before dropped
on Christmas. I can't remember, like I will lay into
the meme. I can't remember anything other than I remember
the first one dropped in the summer season, and I
remember again that first teaser trailer, and I didn't bring
up on news, and I was so pissed because when
I saw that, I was so hyped and I was like, man,
this is gonna be a big thing. And it's like
a Hips traves mote where you know, I don't have
the record proof, but I was like, man, this is
gonna be massive. I just the vibes everything, and somebody
I liked all the seasons I have, we're gonna do
a rewatch. It is either one or four. But for me,
I at the time I saw before I saw, I
thought this was the best one. I think they elevating
in a great way. They tied everything together in a
great way. It felt like we're covering new territory. And
I know I can't see that all the time with
the memes the other way so long or oh we
got all this happening before, like the next season the
Stranger Things. I don't think it fucking matters to me
because it's like people are still hyped for this. It's
still one big story. And if all the kids are
getting older, well guess what, Just like Harry Potter and
The Store, they got older. Yeah, maybe they're playing a
bit younger, but do people really care? No, And I'm
not saying it's gonna maybe beat Squid Game. It will
be interesting because it's flinning Squid Game and Stranger Things
that their like final seasons this year. I know Squid
Game has the record, but I could see Stranger Things
five taking that record back. Like, to me, that's just
like a film fan of like, well it's been so long,
they should, you know, making us way. It's like, I
don't think the general audience feels that way. It's like
to me, even the way they call Stranger Things Stranger
Things five, it's a show, but they make it seem
like a movie, and to me, that's where they feel
like even people they make movie length episodes, people don't care.
People love that shit. They love these characters, and to me,
it's the same way as like we talked about The
Dark Knight that had three years in between each movie.
I know this is different as the TV show, but
I think that's how people view Stranger Things it's almost
like above TV. It's like this big event, right, and
now it's just gonna be hay, can they not Game
of Thrones it and just kind of come up with
a terrible ending. That's gonna be the big thing now,
that'll be after the fact. But no, I'm so excited.
What I saw here looked good. Lots of cool stuff
going on here, and yeah, I'm excited to rewatch it.
And yeah, I think I have faith in them landing
the plane safely. They're there. Of course it's gonna be
I feel like almost the most shows the final season,
there's always some choices. I know about that, but I
don't think it's gonna be like a denarius here in
the Bell situation. Could be wrong, maybe something happens, but
I think they're gonna come to a good conclusion here.
So Supert Mike says. The first part is on American Thanksgiving,
not proper Thanksgiving. Yeah, so that's a good thing, doesn't
matter for us. And even Christmas is the one that
bugs me the most because it's just luckily I'll just
stay off the phone. I'll be spoiled. But that's gonna
be a tough one to watch. New Year's no as
much just what the twins. We're not gonna be doing
much New Year's even the kids don't even stay up
to midnight yet, so that's an easy that will be
our New Year's watching stranger Things and stuff. But yeah,
I'm excited to have it come to an end and
get the full closure there. So let me just make sure, oh,
squid Game, we got a bit more of that, because yeah,
the last time we go out this was very very
teaser like, yeah, I have seen your patron question. I suppose,
don't worry. We got when we're at we got one
we're netflix thing, and then we're gonna get to that. Uh,
and then we'll get to the MIC's after you know,
the man who one showing gig first and he's he's
demanding things. No, Squid Game, this was much more of
a trailer, getting lots of plot beats as far as god,
I can't remember what's her main character's name again?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Anyways, can you look it up? While I'm talking, you
get scenes of him getting entered back in the game,
which is interesting choice. They're not killing him, we're seeing
the game master or whatnot watching we're seeing new games.
There's that fucking skip rope one. We're like, man, that
looking dangerous. That's gonna be a bad one. Lots of
new dynamics, and it's looking like there's there already was.
But the escalation of season two, when there's like a
civil war among the players of who wants to get on,
who wants to say, feels like it's like ramping up
to the point. One point he's like choking and innocent,
like he's choking someone in the game. So did you
get that character's name?
Speaker 2: Uh, siong Gi Hunt.
Speaker 1: That's really the main character's name, So that says I
feel like that doesn't track at all. I just what's
the actor's name, Lee j Right, Yeah, that's what I
just call his real name because I know he was
an act like which came out a year ago. Taylor
so happy, Uh shouts out to uh playugus. But no,
I think this is good. I like everything they're doing.
I think they've shown enough but not too much. But
I also think now this is I don't think they'll
release an a trailer, but I don't need even if
they were, I don't think we tell on the cast.
I think I've seen the right amount of stuff, don't
want to see anymore. But I'm I'm I'm excited for
this too. This comes out in July. So what about
you after this trailer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this trailer, it has me pumped up. I'm I'm
a big fan. I really really like squid Game. I
remember when season one was out and I just I
heard there was the rumblings, and there was the hype,
and so it was that first week.
Speaker 1: The rumblings, the rumblings and mumblings.
Speaker 2: I heard the rumblings and the mumblings. Oh yeah, it's
always something, uh, and this was one of those somethings.
I binged it, and this was before I have my kid,
and so my wife was at work, and so I
just spent the whole Saturday or Sunday just binge watching it.
And I felt like shit by the time Monday rold
because it's like, god, damn, just didn't feel good after
watching that kind of a show. But it was just
such a great show. And so when season two popped in,
I was like, hell, yeah, this is sweet, let's get
in this. And so this has me, yeah, extatic, because
that finale to season two was that was something I had,
just I was not expecting it just to be so
open ended. Is one of those things where I kept checking, like, oh,
we got like fifteen minutes, ten minutes, five minutes, but
there's still so much to cover in this last episode.
Oh my god. And so that just that I love
when a show has me on edge like that has
me just keep checking the time of the episode left.
So I am very much anticipating anticipated for this.
Speaker 1: So as Bobs, he asked us, I'll get the full
quote here to do the man justice heswhere are you there?
We go? If you were an exec and you were
given the power to give only one of the Netflix
projects we have traded for a full theatrical lease, which
would it be? You can even include last episode of
a movie slash Trainer Things as an option. So there's
two minds here, right as far as when you said,
like as an exact, if it's my job on the
line and you're saying, hey, Tris you gotta release it
that it's gonna make most money easily the finale of
Stranger Things, that's what I would release. If you're saying
it's not gonna be on Netflix, you gotta go to theaters.
I release that, I do think people would actively go
out to see that because they want to avoid spoilers
and be this big thing. And I think lots of
times those things have the scope of a movie. So
from a money exact, why is that If it's like
a personal choice, I'm not completely opposed to Stranger Things.
I think that would give it a big oomph. But
I'm not someone that needs to see the TV show
on the big screen per se. But I think that's
probably where I would lie, just because they do make
those things so cinematic. And even though in my next
option would because I didn't like love the trailer, Garymea
del Tororo's Frank and I feel like that is gonna
be one where I'm watching on the my screen, which
is still like a sixty inch or whatever. I'll still think, Man,
there's definitely some times I would have liked to see
this on a massive, big blow up my face with
those speaks, So those would be the two of Yeah,
Strange Things finale and definitely Gearmels Frankistine because I still't
think I'm gonna dislike that movie any because even the
hell Boys, they don't dislike them, They're just not my bag.
I think there's always gonna be something in a del
tooral movie that is like speaks to me. And that's
another thing. Yeah, Crimson Tide just visually I saw in
the theaters and it was a great time. So those
would be the two. But what are you Taylor?
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah, that's I think you're you're onto something
with your Stranger Stranger Things finale pick just to kind
of guarantee that success. You can also go, like with
a big heavy name behind a project like Red Notice
with Ryan Reynolds and uh, The Rock. I'm just kidding
that one that wouldn't be great.
Speaker 1: Theaters. Remember that's one of those ones they did.
Speaker 2: Did that actually go to theaters?
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's prime though. That was a Netflix that
wasn't Netflix. You're thinking of Red Notice with Galagada and
Ryan Reynolds that he yeah, oh I thought you said Red.
Speaker 2: One, No, no, no, Red Notice okay Red Movies.
Speaker 1: Goddamn. Yeah, well that did because I always I remember
I've said this before, but the Fastbenders movie, god, what
was it? The Killer? I was wanting that and we
didn't get that all, but we got all the fucking
to me shit Netflix because I had no interest in
seeing it's always the movies. I'd like to see theatrical. No,
the movies, I don't have no interest in seeing theatrical. Yes, Travis,
so great.
Speaker 2: I would love to see one of the maybe the
finale of the first season of Avatar, the live action
show that Netflix, because that was absolutely banger. I freaking
love that which go check out a review. Me and
Kirkland season two coming also a review.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. So that's a Netflix portion. We're
gonna take our last ad break and then we're getting
into the other trailers. Dexter, Black Phone, gen Via, a
bunch of big stuff in a movie that I'm highly
anticipating now, So we'll be right back. Alright, Taylor, Where
I mean? I let you pick. We got Dexter, black Phone,
gen V, Megan two point oh, and the big, bold,
beautiful Journey. Where do you want to start? We got
that's a very different set of trailers together. What would
you like to start with?
Speaker 2: I would like to start with Megan two point oh. Yeah, this, uh,
this is not the trailer I was expecting at all,
a completely different spin.
Speaker 1: But did you see the trail the first trailer for
this movie? H Okay, that kind of had some of
the weird stuff going on, right of like bitch versus bitch.
Speaker 2: It did, but this trailer just like set it up
even further and steroids. Yeah, and if some weird way,
I was just kind of I was engaged with it
and honed in, like like, okay, this is this is
there's some funny humor in here. When they're inner. I
can't remember the name of Katie's mom, but she saw
art aunt. Sorry, she's talking to Meghan. It is like, oh,
you know you're not gonna kill anyone, right, And she's
not saying anything like Megan Megan, and Megan's like, sh
there's just some weird things like that. It's just it's unsettling,
and I like the the idea behind it. Okay, so
Katie's aunt as one of these people that could technically
stop this other robot that's going killing and everything like that,
and so how does that benefit or benefit that the
relationship between Meghan and Katie will Meghan swears to keep
Katie safe, so obviously Megan is just going to have
to protect her at all costs. And I just I
like that kind of narrative. It's it's fun. But I
wonder too. Okay, when this when U Balen Skulls apprentice
gets killed, h then Megan is going to turn on
Katie's aunt and and so forth and so forth. I
mean it just you don't think they'll do that.
Speaker 1: No, I think I agree with people. They've gone full terminator.
We're from now on, Meghan will be good and they'll
always just create a new threat for Megan to fight
against that or he didn't. I remember remember the so
a lot. I don't know if it was the producers
or whatnot. And I don't think there's ever been official rumor,
but that idea of people want like Chucky and Megan
to go at it.
Speaker 2: Well, she Chucky hinted at it. I think it was
in the series. He was watching TV and I think
you see something with Megan. There's some crossover and he
says like, oh, she's copying my moves.
Speaker 1: Well, and that to me is the perfect thing of like,
if Megan's on the good side, Chucky can never be
on the good side, right, So, whether it's Chucky or not,
I just think Megan will be good from here on
out and always, Like the Terminator, Arnold was never bad
after tea two. So that's what I think.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's fair. Yeah, here, let me just I
don't know if you can hear this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's see here can get ay video taken down?
For Chucky?
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can hear subtitles the subtitles. Okay,
so I can't hear it, and that's a little bit
stole my moves. Yeah, so I think he gives the
middle finger Clay. He's looking rough, Chucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he is, he is. He's not looking good
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I still think this looks lots of fun.
We talked about after nine and I do SPUs brought
this up, and I do agree with it. Where I
could see that the first one really was in a
comedy and the Megan dancing and some other stuff got
mean to Palm and that made it more popular, so like,
let's just lean into it. I got his point because
I hadn't thought about that before, because I guess for me,
I was just so happy by the first trailer, and
even the extent of this trailer of I didn't enjoy
the first Meghan thought it was very just fine and
kind of bland, so to me, even if they go
overboard with the jokes, it's like, well, at least they're
doing something. And I still feel that way. But yeah,
I I got his point after nine that maybe they
could go too far and they don't really get in
they're not even smart with it. But I still think
I prefer that over like what a additional Megan two
sequel would have been. I still prefer them going all crazy.
Don't get me wrong. I think you can watch this
movie and a lot of jokes don't land and it
feels a little cringe. But uh yeah, no, I I'm
on board. I will watch this, but not in the
theaters because I think we tell this before it comes
out in July and Jeel, that's a very tough month.
I think that I think it will still do well
because I think even though Jurassic World Rebirth has some
horror in it, I don't think that's why majority of
people go to see that. I think they like that,
but that's not why F four and Superman do not.
So I think that'll and that's more of a young
girl audience as well, where I don't think like I think,
you know, Pedro's for the thirty year old woman and
up Superman. Yeah, maybe Drassic Girls. I don't think like
I fel like that's for that younger audience. So let's see,
uh the Superman MIXYSM. Megan is getting off major GLaDOS
vibes and I love it. What is Gladows? What am
I missing here?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Mike Cars expands secret portal or story made something like that?
Something I guess we've never played a watch. There you
go bad on us. But all right, speaking of that,
let's go let's I don't know what do we want
to save. Let's save dexter Last because that's a juicy conversation.
Let's go to gen V. How do you film with
that season two? Obviously Boys is going to his final season.
We got this is coming September. They just do I
have the clip here? I think I added in the clip. Yeah,
so we already had a busy fall, and then I
was hoping, well hopefully, because I knew they were making it.
I knew it was coming. I thought, hopefully gen V's
early next year because our fall is also super sacked
as well, and they're like, no, September seventeenth, when you
got all these movie reviews, an alien Earth is going
on and I saw a date this was me too.
Speaker 2: They are going out of their way to fuck me's.
Speaker 1: That was how I felt, purely a podcast or problem,
but I was like, oh, September same day, as like
Alien Earth are same twenty four hours it's gonna come out.
But Alas, I really like this trailer. I think what
I appreciate the most is they're in a very tough
position because the Boys show is death Con five as
far as the issues, right, it's become worldwide like pretty
much Homelanders, the President, crazy stuff. All these soups are
gonna release. It's very you know, anti human, We're gonna
kill them. I think there's those big scope still going
on the show, but I think they're smart to still
have these characters keeping it to let's take down the school.
They're not getting too big for the Bridges yet, and
I think that's the best way of someone like go oh,
why aren't they going out to help the other heroes
because this is something that's personal in them and something
that's affecting themselves and their other friends. Honestly, we unfortunately
had that the actor I can't remember the character that
he was playing, but he passed away that you know,
at a very tragic young age. So you can see
they in the show of Incorporated that and made that
they lost one of their friends. So that's why for me,
it is like this is a personal issue, and I
thought the trailer perfectly answered of why these characters would
still be in school and do that. I think also
it's smart too. I feel like this trailer was leaning
off a lot of the like, we're gonna do a
lot of gross sexual stuff. I'm sure that'll be in here,
but this one felt way more this high stakes for
our characters. Where the first gen V because it was
just oh it's fun and were men. New characters were
called that felt very like sex, drugs and rock and roll.
This feels like we're out for revenge, and I think
that's a right pivot. I'm not saying you can't do
some of that stuff still, but to me, I really
like this trailer and I'm interested to see where they goes.
I'm interested also how much more seasons you can get
out of this, especially if The Boys is the fun one,
because I think we have two other Boys shows announced,
but those are both prequels, so that's easy to do,
right gen V, it might feel weird to like, oh,
we defeat Homelander and everything else and Genv's the one
carrying us through. But yeah, so far, really enjoyed this
trailer and excited. Other than the date, I'm excited to
get more of this. So I tell you, what do
you think about GENV? Yeah?
Speaker 2: This, I don't know how many more seasons you can
do with this show. And that being said, though, I'm
I'm really really on board with how this feels much
more more uh like less that you know, college stereotype
kind of stigma kind of thing, and more just like, yeah,
we're we're in the fight. We're in the shit now
like the boys. Uh, this is like the the post
high school, post education graduate heroes crew. I don't know
whatever you want to call them, but yeah, this is
you know, you get a few familiar faces in there,
and I'm totally down for this. This looks like it's
gonna be a lot of fun and I'm really excited
for it. But I just hope they don't milk it
too much. I don't I don't think I need a
season three. I'd be down just get the give us
the season two with them putting up a fight and
then merge them into The Boys, because I like, we're
nearing the end of the Boys show too, so let's
just and we know that this is directly like it's
parallel to what's going on in the Boys, so let's
just let's let's combine these shows.
Speaker 1: Now. I could see a third depending what happens, of
course in the final season Boys. I could see a
third season, but that being it, maybe deal with the
aftermath and just kind of like humans and you know
whatever working together, kind of be like The First Order
where Okay, you know, you beat the Empire, but he's
still some remnants of it. I could see that were
still some Homelander supporters or followers, So I think you
can get one more. But that's pretty much it. But
who knows. We don't know how the story goes next.
Up black Phone, is it just two? There's no subtitle too, right,
I think too? Yeah? Man, I'm gonna go first here
because I so black Phone really loved the concept, like
I have interesting just store with Scott Derek's Just History
where Sinister I love. I don't know if it's a
top ten horror movie for her best, but favorites might
be up there. I think It's a great little just
the imagery, the moments, the scares, the pacing of that.
What bagool Is loved it too, which didn't direct not great,
and then Doctor Strange, I like that, don't love it.
Same thing with Black Phone. I was looking very forward
to the Black Phone. I think Ethan Hawk kills it
in that. I think there's some really great stuff about it,
but then there's other stuff that's very lacking, and just
didn't get it to the heights I was wanting. I
want to be close to another center. Didn't happen. I
don't know if this can do that. But we're in
a world right now where the Freddy Krueger rise. I
think as they reverted to Wes Craven's wife, I think
there's all this stuff where and that's fine. If the
rights are hers and she doesn't want stuff made, that's fine.
But we're still getting like Michael Myers, there's still starting
four He's and stuff, and Freddy Kuger is this classic
icon who as right now is locked out and what
a great concept, right And I'll be interested to see
how Scott Derekson like skirts around it. I know there'll
be like a different origin, but this literally just feels
like he's making a nightmare in Elms Street film, like
even the point of like I thought, because we had
heard he was coming back in a more supernatural and
I thought, okay, that's fine, right, that's like a nightmare.
And elm Street you get that movie and you get
told the origin of Hey, he was a murder pedophile,
we went and killed him, and then now he's back
where you can almost look at black phone is the
origin of that, right, Like here's the origin of the
grabber becoming supernatural person. But we had just heard, okay,
he's coming back as a supernatural being, Like, okay, sounds
similar to Freddy Krueger, but let's do it. Then once
we saw the trailer and like two characters were like
he was visiting them their dream and like they I
know it probably can't do that, but it's like I
feel like you could get a lawsuit almost you know,
like they're not good, because they'll be there'll be enough
differences the actual movie. But if you were to watch this,
and let's say you fan edited and took the grab
around just replace with Freddy Krueger, you would feel like
you're watching a Freddy Krueger reboot it felt like and
that which is fine because it's like, hey, if we're
not gonna do something with Freddy because whether the rights
are and I don't know how Scott Derekson feels about that,
it's like, let's make something inspired by. Right, there's dozens
of movies Quin Tarry Tales were tons of that is
inspired by stuff. Some of our work is because of like,
oh we saw this like our second film, right, we
saw the Lighthouse, and ours is not one as good
as that and two as greatly made as M three,
the same type of plot, but we saw that and
that inspires b oh, we want to make something in
the same elk of this, but we're gonna want to
do with this setting and this type of character. So
all the time, but I was just surprised how much
it looked like Nightmare on Elm Street. But I'm all
for it because that's my favorite horror character, one of
my favorite horror movies, just favorite movies in general. And
any way to get Ethan Hawk back, because I remember
this was announced, it's like, hey, this is a prequel,
what are they gonna do? And to me, some great
set pieces, that image of him is fucking skating on
the ice when he rips off his mask and half
his face comes off, Like, I think we're gonna get
lots of really good stuff here. And there's all something
I can't remember who it is, but there's like some
kid or something. They're like talking and he goes there
in like that phone booth and he's just like they're
spinning around. Yeah, like reminded me of nightman Alden treat
when they're on the bed and uh Tina's getting brought up.
So yeah, I love the ISM's there, and I'm very
excited to have Ethan Hawk back in this character. And
I think this, I don't know what their plans are,
but this could set them up for a long time.
Maybe even Hawk doesn't want to do that, but this
feels like once he go was supernatural, there's always way
back for the grabber. And I think now even more
dangerous of this guy who was a grabber who has
stole children as just a man, What the fuck is
he going to do? And he has supernatural powers right,
just like Freddy right, And I think that that's kind
of a fun ying and yang the same way. My
last point before throw Taylor is with Freddy, you know,
he's doing these terrible things to kids, and how they
get rid of him is the parents have to sin, right,
they decide we're going to kill him, and the payback
to that as well, Now he's going to come back.
Same thing here where it's like, Okay, our main character,
I can't remember his name, he used the black phone
to get out of there and help him, but I
guarantee the black phone also kind of fucks them because
it's a way for the grabber to come back. You know,
that's like his portal. So it's like kind of that
ying and yang of you know, sinning or doing something
bad and it kind of comes back to you. So no,
I'm even though the first one I was more, you know,
luke warm on this with the supernatural supernatural aspects, I'm
looking very hurry forward to and even some of the
shots felt like they were like really it felt a
lot more sinister vibes as well, a lot of film grain,
a lot of that aspect ratio. It feel like, okay,
we're getting a lot of that type of vibe again.
So this one's surprised me. And I cannot wait for
the black Phone too.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I am. I'm really excited for this. The
trailer was it was just not what I was expecting,
and just seeing how paranormal and that that heightened level
that he is at and has achieved is he's terrifying.
And I love some of these shots and you highlighted
a bunch of them, him pulling his mask off and
then him like you just it's the slow motion where
you just hear like the the skates skating on the
ice that you see through the smoke, like the snowy fog,
like his shadow getting closer, and then he's like skating
up towards towards you. And then you have the person
spinning in the phone booth like some crazy fucking scenarios.
The person in her bunk bed like shaking, convults, convulsing,
like floating off her bed, like we're gonna get some
crazy shit and I can't wait. And it is a shame.
It is absolutely a shame that Freddy's not able to
get back on the big screen or anything like that.
At some point, I will watch the rest of all
the Nightmare on elmstream movies because I think I've just
seen a show one day.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm always waiting. But we got the grabberr
now you know got the grab her now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So this is this is awesome. I'm excited,
all right.
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on this. Taylor, A
big bowl, beautiful journey, funny enough. I can't pronounce the
guy's name. I should pull it up. But directed two
episodes of The Acolyte. I looked at his IMDb career.
He's directed like over thirty things. He's I think more
a film or a foreign filmmaker that started now to
make some more things that are North American. Same thing
with the writer. He's had an interesting career where it's
like he has like seven hundred credits for like writing
on seth Myers, but then he also wrote the menu.
So it's like a weird combination of people. But you
got Marco Robbie who really I could be wrong. I fact,
she hasn't been anything since.
Speaker 2: Barbie, right, that's I don't think she has no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know she's having her kid, had her kid. Yeah,
and Colin Ferrel been very busy. But yeah, so it's
great to see margol ROLLI back. But yeah, what did
you think about this trailer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like it's oh my gosh, it gave
me like an adjustment Bureau kind of weird vibe, if
that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Jesus, It's not a thriller version I'm.
Speaker 2: Imagining, no, No, just something like, okay, there's there's some
kind of you. There was a quick scene where it
looked like this organization operating outside of the norm, and
so that's why I feel like, okay, adjustment bureau kind
of degree. But yeah, it just seems like there's like
a light hearted, kind of positive tone to this and
to this movie just being able to re experience these
different past occurrences, like through these Doors. I guess I'd
never heard anything about this movie before, so I didn't
know what to expect really, But I really like their
chemistry Colin Ferrell and Margot Robbie together, like they just
they hit it off. And I don't know, just in
some of those films it feels like, Okay, they're just
showing up for a paycheck. And yes, I like a
lot of those movies too, but like this just feels
like okay, there. It doesn't feel like that these two
specific actors, not be too specifically actors, these.
Speaker 1: Two jays just fucking phoning.
Speaker 2: It phoning it. Yeah, but they just they feel genuinely
present in this and they're like they're they're they're, they're here,
and they're I don't know. They just just feels like
there's a lot passionable just trying to tell the story
and whatever this the story is or trying to get
to fuck if I know, But I am curious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can say that. You know, I've said this
before that some of the geek super stuff not anticipated.
When I got that weapons trailer that was up there
life as Chuck, I can say this is in the
top three of my most anticipate movies of the year.
Now I'd heard about this because I heard it's probably
more on the Oscar side, but now it's so weird.
I'm like, I don't know if it's gonna get there,
But even the pairing of these two is like, that's
that's an interesting call. We'm not that, but just like
interesting different actors, different eras as well. But man, this
thing fucking blew me away. I cannot wait. This is
my bag. If it's done well, this is like, you know,
you're gonna love this. This is like cloud Atlas. This
is like everything everywhere at once. This is like kind
of to a smaller degree about time or have you
ever seen Eternal God, I'm screwing up with the title
Eternal Sunshine for the Spotless Mind. Have you seen that
with Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet. You should watch that
one day. That's a thing where they're dating and they
break up and it's so painful. There's like and it's
just the norm. There's a company that will wipe your
memories of that certain person, not the rest of your life.
But then they somehow still find each other again, and
then they realize that they've dated before and stuff. Movies
that have a and sand June apparel for Black Mirror.
This felt like Black Mirror, but a happier version sand
June apparel. When the race hours of anything movies or
TV shows or whatever that have a high concept of
sci fi but is used to do this whole the
appreciation of life and the little things and what love
means and what people means. Man, that can that gets me?
Where where the fuck am I here? After I saw
this trailer, this was me? The whole chose at was me?
The school the music they chose, which is funny because
me and Emily always meme. I'm not a big fan
of Gracie Abrams that songless trailers j J. Abrams's daughter. Uh,
she's a singer now and anytime I've heard her stuff,
not been a fan. But this one, this one got
me with some cinematic trailer music editing as well. But man,
this idea of going through different doors and I love
just stuff of like Colin Ferrero's character sees the door
and he knows right away that's his high school. And
I agree with you that the chemistry of these two
seem like it's polple, seems really good, just seems very natural.
This feels like a sequel or it feels like, oh
we've seen like the way like Emma Stone, Ryan Gossling,
I've done like three movies together, Like oh yeah, of
course they got good cameras. She've worked together many times.
This is the first time a Harley Quinn and Penguin
you know, of their ILKR were going together. And no,
it's to me, I agree with Clay, like it could
be messy, but to me, if it hits right and
it's this big grand adventure, but it's really about that's
you know, like everything ever all wants it's like, that's
about the multiverse in the world end, but really it's
about appreciating who you have and what you have and
the time you have left. I think this has a
little bit to do with that. I'm very interested at
the end when they're talking about that they'll hurt one another.
So I'm curious of same thing as if it's like
Eternal where maybe they previously dated and they kind of
forgot or this whole movie is kind of flashbacks and
they are getting back to the point of getting back together.
It was a weird line of them talking about like, oh,
they're gonna hurt one in each other by dating. It's like, well,
how would you know that? Seems like you guys are having
this great adventure together, like what's the trauma you guys have?
And maybe just other stuff?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And I agree with you With Colin Farrell. I think
he's always been a good to great actor. I feel
like he's hit his peak now if he's putting out
his best work. There's that scene in the trailer when
they're at his high school and he sees the girl.
He's like, oh, this is the day that I tell
her I love her, and she helps me don't. And
he's like, ah, I can just feel like I was like,
it feels like a genuine person, right Like, it just
felt like not an actor. And I was like, man,
between Penguin and between banshees of Irshin, did you ever
see that as well? Oh man, he's just he's operating
at such a high level right now. So yeah, this
is a day one for me. This is this is
right up my alley because yeah, I love the dark shit.
I love Saw. I've said before my super my favorite
super movies or when they're depressed and bad stuff's going on.
But I also love a movie that just like makes
you feel like, man, life is good and I gotta
appreciate what I got because you never know. And I
think this movie, I love this the idea of Okay,
you're whatever is happening with this door clearly, even that
little radio they have on their car they live in
like a high tech thing. So I don't know, is
this like a magic thing? Is this like a simulation?
This like an AI simulation they can create whatever it is.
I love this concept of going through and they're gonna
kind of relive some of these moments, whether to take
them back or look at them differently, like this moment
where you Colin Ferrell doing the school play, but as
like a nearly fifty year old man, right, but he's
dressed as like a kid with baggy clothes. You have
Margot Robby going to see her mother when she's sick,
but it's like an actress. It's Lily Rabe, who I love,
who's the same age as Margot Robbie, but clearly it's
when she was a child, and that's when the mother
got sick. Like, I feel like it's gonna be one
of those movies. If done right, you're gonna be fucking
ugly crime. Like remember at the end of About Time
when Donald Glees and his dad go back in time
for one last adventure. Oh my god, it's just like
not a dry out eye in the house. So yeah,
I I love it. Espos says, I had known the concept,
but once I watched Eternal Sunshine, it was so much
better than I expected. Five star movie. Yeah, and that's
where it's a weird movie. I definitely recommend it, Taylor
one time. I can remember, Oh, there's another good actor
in there that has a small I think it might
be Ruffalo. Actually, I think Ruffles in there, like a
young Ruffalo. But yeah, it's Jim Carrey in a serious role.
But there's some still good comedic beats. And that's I
suppose what I thought of when I saw this, Like
this feels like eternal sunshine of this generation. And yeah,
I cannot wait. I really hope we get this because
sometimes smaller movies we don't get our It takes a
little while, but I'll be there in September. And yeah,
like I said, Weapons Life of Chuck, this my most
anticipated movies that I was not expecting to add this
a list, and I I did so finally, well and
it all Yeah, it is Ruffle. Yeah, it's very young Ruffle.
And am I wrong? It's Elijah Wood's also in that
right s bubs, I think, And they're they're very because
the thing is too like with this tech, if it
goes in the wrong hands tailor, some people can do
some like suspicious things, you know, and bad things. So
and I think Elijah Woods courting some characters. Yeah there,
and I think Kristen does it. I got to rewatch
it again, but yeah, and it's one of those movies,
same thing.
Speaker 2: Kristen dunsmart ruffal Elijah Wood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, there's a good subplot there and it's
another movie that same thing. It's like, that's the idea
of Okay, if you were if let's say UMass and
broke up Taylor and you had your memories white, but
if you met back together, should you date because it's like, well,
you already did it once, but you don't have those memories.
There's an attraction there and it's a it's a very
like those philosophical questions. And yeah, I cannot wait for
a big Boulder journey. It could this could be one
that super disappoints me. But the trail though fantastic. Uh,
finally the main event here and it's off. Mike has
a question which we will get to Dexter Resurrection. Honestly,
we are on quite a journey with Dexter. I did
the whole Dexter retrospective. Kirkland is currently watching it rewatch
it detol in our Patreon. He's watching it for the
first time. And then we reviewed Dexter new Blood, which
was supposed to be a kind of apology to the
ending of Dexter because it ended in a very controversial
and let's just say it Bad Manner, and then you
got Original Sin, but those did very well, so Original
Sin we have reviews for all these. Season two is
coming for that. But then new Blood did so well,
they're like, well, you know, what else could you do?
I was like, well, we could make Dexter survive a
gunshot to the heart. So I will say maybe I
should maybe Detail knows some stuff. Detail if you're listening
or anybody else that's catching up on Dexter, come back
or skip because we will talk about spoilers in this
a little bit. But yeah, ratings were huge, like both
of them had like records for certain different things. So
here we are, we're doing Dexter resurrection. Like we got
Teas the news blood it seemed like he you know,
survived the shot. We got Batista coming back right away
talking about if he's a Bay horror butcher and what
happens there. Dexter says, well, I'm gonna skip down. So
if there's like this is what I love about Dexter Matista,
it feels like we'll have to see when we watch
a show. But it feels like there's even like five
percent of Batista because he hugs him and he's like, oh,
it's so good to see. It's like seeing it goes
because Batista lost a lot of people in that show,
you know, and Dexter was like one of his good friends.
Even if it's a fake friend, seems like there might
even still be a five percent chance that Batista does
not believe that Dexter's a Behrlor butcher. But now at
himley in the hospital, that five percent is gonna be gone.
I love when Dexter gets to New York. He's like,
what a better place to HIDEE knows you are? I
again will go pooh on that he's in New York.
There's a man hunt. New York's one of the biggest
cities in the world. There's cameras everywhere. That is one
of the worst places to go hit. There's a man
hunt for you, but we're gonna talk about it. The
plot line for this is, so he gets to New York.
I don't know if he gets there because of Peter
Dnklish or because of Harrison, but the plot line is
he meets me with Therma who's meeting with Peter Dinklish, Like, oh,
this is the master for the manner And it is
Peter Dinklich who is a fan, a fanatic whatever of
serial killers, and he we don't know why and what
he's doing and what the endgame is, but he is
collecting or introducing other serial killers to other serial killers.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Neil Patrick, Harris, Eric storm Street, Christian Ritter plays serial
killers and Ouste got Michael C. Hall and he's brought
them all together. Uh, and we don't know why. And
it's a lot of man hunt stuff. It looks like
Harrison struggling with who he's gonna be. Patissa's hunting them.
Dex was definitely killing some people. We knew Harry was back,
but Harry is back back. We also got this week
confirmed that uh fucking Doakes is gonna come back, which
is so funny because we just talked about that after nine, right,
We're like, oh, it'd be grave. We brought him back,
they announced, which makes sense. The premiere is gonna be
two episodes, and the I think in the first episode
we're getting trendy mcgillan Doakes. It sounds like they're kind
of doing like a you know, these three ghosts will
visit you on Christmas Night, Like sounds like whether he's
dying or a cone whatever. These people are gonna visit him,
so obviously we got jokes back. What did you think
about this trailer, Taylor, of Dexter's being recruited by pier
Dinglis who just loves serial killers. We don't know what's up,
but Dexter's meeting a bunch of other killers and here
we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the idea behind that, I it seems a
little bit too. I don't know TV show, ye, like
reality TV kind of a Dexter is a TV show,
you know, it is a TV show. Yeah, but just
like the theme of that, it's weird. It doesn't seem
to me like a very Dexter kind of vibe. And
I feel like, yes, people are pissed off about the
Dexter being the lumberjack kind of thing, but just him
going and living that kind of a world to just
transferring over like yeah, ah, hi to New York City,
Like you said, it just doesn't really make sense. Why
didn't he just go to New York City to begin with?
Because then no one would have found him there, because
I mean, if you got found out in like the
smallest town in the world, like, and he's gonna get
found out here too. But yeah, just the intentions and
the motivations of this guy. Of Peter's character and his
affiliation with serial killers. I don't know, it's gonna be
interesting to figure out. Okay, how did Peter's character discover
like that these are serial killers? Why would these serial
killers willingly reveal themselves? Is it just a complex of
like Sam Whitworth's character where you just he was he
did kill someone, but it was more or less like
you just want to take credit, Like there's just some
serial killer thing, like they just want to be I
think they're.
Speaker 1: All different killers, which is weird that they.
Speaker 2: Well, I think so. I think that's that's true, and
I think that think that's it, Like why do they
want to be known? They just they want they want
to be known. They want to like, I don't know,
so I guess Dexter gonna fess up be like, yeah,
I'm the Bahrvord butcher Da Da da da, and no
one else knows that he's a serial killer who kills
serial killers, and anyone that does know that is dead
except for maybe Harrison.
Speaker 1: Unless he says he's a b horror butcher, right, because
that was what the butcher did.
Speaker 2: I guess they figured that out the Beevor Butcher se criminals,
then that would be very I mean if I was
a serial killer and it's like, oh, you're the Behavor Butcher,
you hunt serial killers, then I'd be like, I'm out,
Like this is a serial killer who's mastered killing serial killers.
Speaker 1: Superman Mike says, I think this might be worse than
Lumberjack Dexter. So some of two minds here. I think one.
I do think there's gonna be a lot of good
fans service because I do think dogs, trinery, Miguel Batista,
I think those are things that are gonna harken back
the old show. And I actually think they're gonna do
those things. Well, I think they're gonna tale and even
Harry right, they're gonna tie back in and Michael Sea
I'll talk about this. I mentioned this on somecasts or something.
I can't remember when we got to announce, but when
Harry was back to me, that was, oh, this is
with it being called Dexter Resurrection, this is about him
trying to get back to Dexter of old and Michael
Sea Hall said, the reason Harry's back is because now
Dexter's brought back the code and he's trying to fall
that more than ever. And that's what I thought, because
Harry in the original show is always Dexter's conscience. He's
always kept him at like in line to try and
do good and do the right thing and follow the code.
So I think there is something because again you have
to my worry is they're not gonna really pay much
attention to the old show because in the last episode
you saw Dexter he killed an innocent cop, you know.
So for me, what I want Dexter to be, which
is what I'm worried about, We'll get there. It looks
like Michael Seahall's having a fun time in this, so
great for him. But even Dexter, like when he turns
in the chairs like I'm back, like this doesn't seem
like a character or what I thought was the trajectory
of I did a lot of bad things, kill zone innocent,
I got shot. I survived. There has to be a
reason I survived, And I thought I'd be a full
one eighty of I'm gonna go back to the code
and I'm gonna make up for I can't remember his name,
but he was like Harrison's like a wrestling coach guy.
I'm gonna make up for him. I'm gonna make up
for Freedom, gonna make up for deb Now that always
goes bad, but still the idea of hey, I'm not
even gonna have a family, I'm just gonna kill bad people,
because like that should be Dexter's penance for surviving and
killing innocent people. You gotta make a difference in the world.
Go back out there, get the code. But Dexter looks
like he's having a good time. He's laughing. I guarantee
he's gonna fuck Chris and Ritter like Lady Liberty like.
It does not feel like he's gonna be struggling or
I guarantee it because all those ghosts are gonna visiting him.
He's gonna struggle with it like for one episode and
then like he's good like and kudos to him. And
that's where I'll say on the flip side, where I'm
gonna try and enjoy this. It looks like this show
is gonna be lots of fun. I think with those
ghosts comeback, I think Michael C. Hall is gonna be
chooting some scenery, Like look at that cast. We have
Uma Therma, Peter Inglish, Christen Ritterer, Neil Patrick Harris. That's
some great actors, Like I think the show is gonna
have a very fun quality to it. At the same time,
with this trailer and the plot line of it, I
will play it one more year.
Speaker 2: They are going out of their way to fuck me.
Speaker 1: I agree with Mike. This is worse than Lumberjack Dexter.
This is jumping the shark. I've talked about this before
where the book series was like this, where the first
three books was very much like the show, a serious
crime drama Serial Killers, s Cis Miami type of deal,
and then it was, oh well, Dexters are back at
dark Passengers actually like an entity that's lashed on the
Dexter's soul, and there was cults and like Ast and
Cody became killers, all this stuff and it got really
banana weird. That's where we're going, but in a different
scale of Like this feels, like I said, this Discord,
like a bad action. It feels like Thunderbolts are suicide
squad of like we've recruited the best top tense zero
killers like or remember that. Funny enough, Michael C. Hall
was in this, remember that movie Gamer which it feels
like this, like these are the most dangerous criminals and
you can plays them like it feels like And don't
get wrong, I can see Hall was great in that
fucking movie, but that it feels very or the other one.
Remember God, what's it called Condemned with stone Cold? Yeah,
it feels like that. And that to me is because
they brought Dexter back for new Blood to finish off
the story. It's like we talked about with Zoolander two
or Ancle went to the story was finished, they had
the Dexter character realize that even though he was trying
to do good, he did a lot of bad. He's
a bad person. He deserves jail or to be put down,
and he chose to got put down. And then it's like,
well what do you do after that? There's nothing after that?
So now you just have to have Dexter do like
weird side quest shit that just this does not feel
like Dexter. This feels like maybe you could have spanned
Dexter off somewhere else, but it just feels all that
Dexter would be in a room with all these serial
killers and I guess, like, are we gonna say because
I know, Christian Ritter is playing a character called Lady Liberty,
So I think she's gonna be a killer like Dexter
that takes out bad people, but are always killers that
And if so, it's like, there they found four other
serial killers in the world that are like Dexter that
just killed bad people. Like that feels very convenient. And
then if not, there's other killers, why won't Dexter kill
And maybe that's the plotline. Maybe Dexter meets them and
he leaves up meeting He's like, I'm gonna kill all
those people. Maybe, but it just feels very jumped the shark.
It just feels like they This feels like a chat GPT.
Maybe I'll do a Dexter's prediction and we'll get you
to put like what it would have been. This is
what I feel like. This is more wild than what
chat GPT. This is one that Tear would have put
in and we would have got it and we would
have laughed of like what there's like a group of
serial killers and he's in New York. Like this feels
like a fake one and it sucks because before I
was always like, well, Clyde Phillips, the showrunner, did one
to four, his wife got sick, he left, and then they
did New Blood, which I thought was a satisfying ending.
He's still part of this and he's a part original Sin.
To me, this is again because they don't have I
don't think any ideas that can then you can really
continue the extra story. There's no excuse. Now. It's not like, oh,
this is a different show runner, different writers. I think
they're just collecting their bag and having a good time.
I think they're just like, yeah, they paid us a
lot of money to do this condemned retro for the gimmick,
we'd have to get Taylor on that episode. That'd be great.
Or Predators. Yeah, Predators. That's another one where it's a
bunch of killers. And to me, that just does not
fit with Dexter, who is even as high as always
trying to be isolated from people to be a seeker, Right,
it would feel weird that he would just be hanging
out with not just one serial killer. I can buy that.
We've seen that a group of serial killers, and I
guess here's my one thing of trying to make sense
of it. The reason why he might work with them
is I feel like they're trying to make Peter Dinglich
out to be like some sort of million billion Maybe
that's why, because maybe it is, Hey, i'll protect you.
You're not gonna get arrested. We can change your name,
do all this stuff, if you help me do X,
Y and Z. That is my prediction of how Peter
Dinklage gets there, and Dexter works with him because he's
on the run, right, and if he has some billionaire
protecting him, maybe that works. But yeah, this this the
quality show I think is gonna be bad. But I'm
I don't know. I'm there for the write in one sense,
I think the reviews are gonna be tons of fun.
I think we're gonna there's gonna be some stupid shit
on there. But the Dexter Famo me, it definitely hurts
my soul a little bit. When I saw this, It's like, man,
we're scraping the barrel here and and now I'm worried.
I think if this is a hit, because people and
myself still watch it, we're gonna keep going. And Dexter's
again like just continually weird situations. They will probably do
that cult storyline they did in the book, like those
are doing that type of stuff. But Mike as which
I think you kind of know the answer for, but
he did ask. He'd asked two questions, on a scale
of season eight to season four, how good or bad
do you think Dexter Resurrection will be? So obviously eight
would be the last, like the worst, and four would
be the best. I think it's going to be like
season seven. I'm a defender of season seven. That's where
they introduced Hannah McKay. That's where they introduced I can't
remember his name. Oh God, why can't I remember his
real name? He just passed a Ray Stevenson. Do you
remember he was in the Show's a hit Man. That
was a season that it was a little rocky, but
it kind of had a There was multiple bad seasons
or miss seasons, and then had a peak of like
oh dead found out who was a killer? Hannah McKay
was a fun character, and then this hitman who was
like actually ended up being friends with Dexter. They had
this gay storyline for him where he was, you know,
secretly like he couldn't be with the person he wanted
to love. That's why he's doing all these kills. Like,
there was some great stuff in there, but it was
still pretty messy. I think that's what this is gonna be,
but a little lower than that. But I think there's
gonna be some fun stuff in there. I think Michael
Seaholl is gonna have some great stuff. I think those
returning characters are gonna be great. I think Batista is
gonna be a great ciry because I think he's actually
the only serious part of like man Hunting Dexter. But
that's where I am. So I'm not sure if you
had that same recall idea of the seasons, how to
rank it. If you do, you can, If.
Speaker 2: Not, oh no, I don't. I don't have the thorough
your bit.
Speaker 1: Trinity was four, Lumen was five, Six was the Doomsday Killer,
Seven was Hannah McKay and the Hitman, and then eight
was the uh the brain Surgeon. That was the end.
Speaker 2: So I do like the season with Hannah McKay. I mean,
i'd probably say four being the best and A being
the worst, go up to like a season five or six.
Speaker 1: Okay, so lumin doomsday type of stuff. Yeah, yeah, some
great stuff, but a lot of mess in there, you
know where, Like to me, season seven had great episodes.
Season five to six only had great parts, and then
there's a lot of bad stuff in there, so we'll
see and then finally we didn't get today, we're getting
it tomorrow. Mi ass also for Wicked Good Wicked for
good trailer hype on a scale of ten to eleven
out of ten. I guess I'll pick ten because I'm
not eleven. I still don't watch the first one. I'm
excited for you, Mike. I will not watch this, and
luckily my sister will take the kids because my mom
watched Wick and she's like, I can't see the second one.
She's like, it's too long. I'm not the biggest fan
of it, so not a big in our household. The
trailer is weird of them like staring. It's just like
a lot of weird CG green screen behind it just
looks very I don't know, I'm gonna say cheap, but
I've seen stuff like not you know, fans, Mike, I've
seen stuff in that movie that looks a little cheap too,
where it's like, ah, just just looks a little flat
or the color looks a little off. So I will
watch at some point. I think I will watch it
this summer with the girls because they'll be home. I
do want to watch the full thing, but as I
said before, I'm not a musical guy, and the musicals
I like are pretty specific. I can say that, like,
if there's the diehard musical fans, I'm not in them.
But Tay, are you excited for this trailer? You and
Kirk will be talking about next week?
Speaker 2: So yeah, No, I'm a big fan of Wicked, and
I'll never forget just going into the theater and just
being caught off guard with how fantastic it was with
the musical numbers and just the story and everything like that.
I always loved The Wizard of Oz. I grew up
watching that movie, and so with this, uh part two
coming out, I'm yeah, I'm soaked. I'm excited to see
the trailer. I'm excited that we're gonna get to see
this conclusion because I left that theater wanting after part one,
So I'm eagerly anticipating this.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go. We are done, eagerly anticipating the
rest of the week. Thank you everyone that tuned in
fun time. Thank you everybody in the chat. We had
a good time. You guys had some great questions tonight
and some great to back and forth, so always a
fun time in the chat is lively. Let's see we
don't talk about that. We fore way past Superman. So yeah,
we will be back at some point later on Prayer
Tare next. Also, we've got some Patren stuff for record
in tomorrow. But Predator is just around the corner. Ballerino,
we got some good stuff coming up.
Speaker 2: I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll be back. Thank you to everyone that listen, watch,
and I promise when you hear from this next, it
will not be boring.