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Speaker 3: Just in case you missed it, there's a new sheriff
Speaker 3: in town. I'll come back to that. I'm always recalibrating, remastering, rehearsing, reconsidering.
Speaker 3: There's a famous quote credited to Winston Churchill. It stated
Speaker 3: that he said the smodest man I ever met was
Speaker 3: my tailor, for every time he met me, he remeasured me.
Speaker 3: I remeasure myself all the time. I take a relook,
Speaker 3: I have a rethink. I wonder about the decisions I'm making.
Speaker 3: I often rethink that which I believe. I have to
Speaker 3: admit rethinking is not always of strength. I'm human. I
Speaker 3: have my concerns, I have my doubts. I will point out,
Speaker 3: though that the most foolish of people I've ever met
Speaker 3: are often wrong, but never in doubt. It's healthy to
Speaker 3: have doubt. But a second look, a chance to reboot,
Speaker 3: a moment more of thorough Another question to asked is
Speaker 3: another chance. Now I have to tell you I am quick.
Speaker 3: I am super quick. I'm quick on the drawer. My
Speaker 3: mind is so fast that it may be my best attribute.
Speaker 3: I can get from here to there very, very quickly. Therefore,
Speaker 3: I recognized early on I need to regulate my decision making.
Speaker 3: It's too fat, too fast. I wonder I need a
Speaker 3: just in case mechanism, a technique for assuring I'm measured
Speaker 3: in my approach to the world. It's a way to
Speaker 3: tell me slow down, mark, not to smell the flowers,
Speaker 3: but to make sure I see them and I think
Speaker 3: about them. I've met so many people that are ready
Speaker 3: fire aim with this in mind. There's just tons of
Speaker 3: mistakes because they're ready and firing be before they think
Speaker 3: we need ready aim, fire, and then chances for hitting
Speaker 3: the target exceeds any of the others. We meet people,
Speaker 3: we make judgments quickly. For me, it's in the eyes.
Speaker 3: I look at a person's eyes and I already know
Speaker 3: what I think of them from there, based on who
Speaker 3: I am. I go right to the shoes. I think
Speaker 3: shoes are a window to the soul, if your pardon
Speaker 3: the pun. I think shoes tell you a lot about
Speaker 3: a person. And then, of course it's the overall package
Speaker 3: that gives you an idea who you're talking to. But
Speaker 3: instantly I make a judgment. Yet the words when a
Speaker 3: spot to speak, can make all the difference in the world,
Speaker 3: and in worldly terms, it's recognized and we all heard,
Speaker 3: and we all know we can't judge a book by
Speaker 3: its cover. I've been involved in purchasing companies and acquiring
Speaker 3: the assets, taking over the management making the decisions. It's
Speaker 3: so easy when you know the brand, you see the
Speaker 3: pretty pictures, you understand the positioning. Then you hear management's
Speaker 3: point of view on the strength of the company they're
Speaker 3: trying to sell you, we have to think, why are
Speaker 3: we purchasing it. I'm cynical, so it's easy to say
Speaker 3: when I listen to their speeches, I start by thinking
Speaker 3: they're lying because the lips are moving. Now, that is unfair,
Speaker 3: But I have to admit I'm there to doubt to
Speaker 3: make sure I know what's doing. I'm listening to people's
Speaker 3: opinion as to what's going on in the company and
Speaker 3: why they're selling it. But in reality, what I need
Speaker 3: to know, or I need to have known, are the details.
Speaker 3: Looking at the reports, drilling down on the questions, looking
Speaker 3: for inconsistencies, understanding what's working, understand what's not, and determining
Speaker 3: what course of action to take. For if in fact
Speaker 3: we buy the company, if the company needs repositioning, we
Speaker 3: need to know what we need to do. We need
Speaker 3: to know the value, what should we pay for the company?
Speaker 3: Therefore taking the time, going the extra mile, going the distance,
Speaker 3: slowing down, learning and comprehending, and then of course executing.
Speaker 3: So just in case is what I look to do.
Speaker 3: Just in case is in fact tonight's show, and just
Speaker 3: in case I want the show to be best, I
Speaker 3: bring on now my lawyer, my co host, my son
Speaker 3: Jesse Webber. Hey, there, what.
Speaker 2: An interesting thought. If you think about it, the world
Speaker 2: would be a lot better if people took a moment
Speaker 2: to think about what they did before they did it? Right?
Speaker 2: I cover what do I do? I cover crime all
Speaker 2: the time. I cover politics on my shows. Can you
Speaker 2: imagine if criminals maybe thought about the consequences before their actions.
Speaker 2: Some of them don't care, some of them do. That's
Speaker 2: while a lot of them there's evidence that they tried
Speaker 2: to hide their crimes beforehand. They are its intent, they
Speaker 2: know what they're about to do. It would be a
Speaker 2: better world, though, if people had a full grasp of
Speaker 2: the impact of their decisions. You always say, you throw
Speaker 2: a pebble in the water, you see the ripple effects.
Speaker 2: A lot of times people don't realize that they're too
Speaker 2: short sighted. But my gosh, politics this week, I think
Speaker 2: it was all about thinking before you're talking, right. Would
Speaker 2: you agree with me on that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? I was all set to talk about Zelenski and
Speaker 3: I will, and then came the state of the Union
Speaker 3: and I want to talk about that. And then I thought, well,
Speaker 3: what do you and I bring to the table that
Speaker 3: a thousand pundits before us haven't done. And I think,
Speaker 3: just in case a slow down and recap and think
Speaker 3: about what we're gonna do, maybe we have something to say.
Speaker 3: So if it's Okay with you, Jesse, I'd love to
Speaker 3: know what you think about what happened with Zelensky this week.
Speaker 2: I want to start with Zelensky. Okay. It was very
Speaker 2: clear to me this was a power play because there's
Speaker 2: nothing that Donald Trump and his administration want more than
Speaker 2: for this war to end. Obviously they want the killing
Speaker 2: in the bloodshed to stop, but also for them to
Speaker 2: tack on the achievement of being responsible for ending this
Speaker 2: war is huge for them. And so for essentially kicking
Speaker 2: Zelensky out, saying he was rude, giving his lunch to reporters,
Speaker 2: and then now after the meeting taking away military aid
Speaker 2: to Ukraine, this is all trying to put pressure on
Speaker 2: him to engage in a ceasefire. And what has already
Speaker 2: happened is Zelenski, it's being reported, wrote a letter, a
Speaker 2: conciliatory letter to Donald Trump, basically saying I'm willing to
Speaker 2: give into it because we all know that even if
Speaker 2: he has support from Europe, he still needs support from
Speaker 2: the US. And I think you talk about short you
Speaker 2: talk about the long term consequences of it. Obviously, if
Speaker 2: you have a ceasefire would be great. The problem is
Speaker 2: what are the long term costs consequences. Is Russia have
Speaker 2: to make any compromises? Are there any assured guarantees that
Speaker 2: they won't move forward with an attack? I guess one
Speaker 2: way of looking at it is right, if the United
Speaker 2: States and Ukraine enter into a mineral deal and you
Speaker 2: have US officials and you have US companies in Ukraine,
Speaker 2: would be less likely than Russia would take some sort
Speaker 2: of attack at a Ukraine. Maybe, But I just feel
Speaker 2: I understand why he wants it to happen. But this
Speaker 2: was all a major power plan. I have to say. Look,
Speaker 2: Zelenski tried to correct the record on some misinformation, tried
Speaker 2: to fight for his people, but he went in there
Speaker 2: and I don't know what he was thinking he was
Speaker 2: going to gain by doing that and going on the
Speaker 2: offensive against Trump and the Vice president. I thought that
Speaker 2: was really bold.
Speaker 4: Of him to do. You want my opinion, Yeah, what's
Speaker 4: your opinion? I'm going to come at it from a
Speaker 4: different point of view. And I don't remember whether anybody
Speaker 4: tackled this, but I would tell you the issue is
Speaker 4: I guess I'll start with a question. I know what
Speaker 4: you're going to say. Who wins the negotiation?
Speaker 2: Jesse? It's the party who has the power to walk away.
Speaker 3: I could rest my case right there. Zelenski came in
Speaker 3: and he started dictating terms to Trump. He disrespect advance.
Speaker 3: He thought he was the power player in this whole thing.
Speaker 3: He thought, because the US was behind him, that he
Speaker 3: had all the cards. As Trump said that he was
Speaker 3: the power player. Now, I'd stop for a second and say,
Speaker 3: I don't know enough about the man except to say
Speaker 3: I admire him. I admire his courage. He seems to
Speaker 3: have great leadership in fighting this war, and he stood
Speaker 3: up and to be counted, and I really said it.
Speaker 3: I admire what he's done. I do believe that a
Speaker 3: war didn't have to take place between Putin and he.
Speaker 3: I thought it could be solved. I thought Russia's goals
Speaker 3: would have a port in the CRIMEA. They want a
Speaker 3: war report for their navy, and that's the only thing
Speaker 3: they cared about, and they didn't want anybody else joining
Speaker 3: NATO that would block his access to the things he needed.
Speaker 3: I don't think he was doing this because he wanted
Speaker 3: to acquire more rity. I think the West made a
Speaker 3: lot of mistakes and poked him in the eye one
Speaker 3: too many times, and that's what started this, But to me,
Speaker 3: it's all about negotiating. And Zelenski came into this negotiation
Speaker 3: as if he had the power moves. He had nothing.
Speaker 3: He had nothing, And the reality is he's losing the war.
Speaker 3: Does anybody believe he's gonna win? What is the price
Speaker 3: for winning? Killing people every day?
Speaker 2: The counter argument to that would be, if you do nothing,
Speaker 2: then what is to stop Russia from going into another
Speaker 2: country and then another country.
Speaker 3: His job is not to fight Russia for the rest
Speaker 3: of the world. His job was to fight Russia for himself,
Speaker 3: to come up with some kind of plan that would
Speaker 3: have protected his people. Now the numbers are crazy. Tens
Speaker 3: of thousands people dying, hundreds of thousands of people, millions
Speaker 3: of people. I was in the studio the other day
Speaker 3: and one of the corporate execs from iHeartMedia asked me
Speaker 3: what I thought about what happened with Zelenski and the President,
Speaker 3: and I said to him, Look, there are times when
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's dos things that I don't agree with, I
Speaker 3: don't like, I don't think it suits him. When he
Speaker 3: started talking about Obama giving sheets and he gave Javelin missiles,
Speaker 3: it didn't need to be said. Put the Obama stuff aside.
Speaker 3: Trump's position has been I don't want any more people dye. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: in this world, every one of us experiences tragedy. Someone
Speaker 3: in their family dies, either too young or they live
Speaker 3: to a ripe old age. But people pass. But every
Speaker 3: time someone does, it's a hardship. It's devastating. Families get
Speaker 3: broken over these things, their heartbroken. Could you imagine a
Speaker 3: country with one hundreds of thousands of people dying, young
Speaker 3: people dying in both sides, in Russia and the Ukraine.
Speaker 3: It is unfathomable. What's going on and what's the endgame here?
Speaker 3: Can they possibly beat Russia? And frankly speaking, let's just say,
Speaker 3: for the moment, I believe in the industrial military complex.
Speaker 3: Let's just for the moment say and I do to
Speaker 3: a degree that I'm a businessman, and if a big
Speaker 3: business of the United States is weapons, I'd love the
Speaker 3: idea of making weapons and shipping them to countries for
Speaker 3: defensive purposes. The more weapons we ship to a given country,
Speaker 3: the more powerful they are, the more reluctant their enemies
Speaker 3: are to attacking them. So in that way of thinking,
Speaker 3: I like the fact that money's being made here. And
Speaker 3: as a deterrent. But the reality is, if this keeps
Speaker 3: going on, is there any chance that Zelensky could win
Speaker 3: this move? The answer, I don't believe. So he walked
Speaker 3: in like he had the old cards. He thought he
Speaker 3: had Trump around a barrel. He thought he could dictate
Speaker 3: whatever he wants, and he couldn't because in Trump's mind,
Speaker 3: he's one of the great negotiators. He's the new sheriff
Speaker 3: in town. He doesn't want this war to continue. And
Speaker 3: for the reasons at least, he's stating I don't want
Speaker 3: people dying in him. I applaw him one thousand percent.
Speaker 3: I'm in his corner one thousand percent. Now Europe lining up,
Speaker 3: what is their goal? All of them supporting Zelenski? What
Speaker 3: is the end? So in the end for me, stop
Speaker 3: this war. Zelensky, you have nothing to say. As much
Speaker 3: as I admire you, as much as you've rallied your people,
Speaker 3: You've been an amazing leader, but it's now the time
Speaker 3: to sit down and think about what am I doing
Speaker 3: going forward. That's my take.
Speaker 2: Look, you make a good argument. I don't know where
Speaker 2: it's gonna go. I think that it was quite a scene.
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen anything like that? And by the way,
Speaker 2: by the way. By the way, I thought it was
Speaker 2: really interesting. Did you catch it when Vance was like, you're,
Speaker 2: mister President Zelensky, you're litigating this in the media. You
Speaker 2: want everybody to see this. And Trump stepped in he goes,
Speaker 2: actually liked it. This is happening. I want everybody to
Speaker 2: see why this is happening. And he's like, Okay, you're right,
Speaker 2: mister President.
Speaker 3: Look Trump, I'm going to talk about him in a
Speaker 3: little while. The end result here is is he who
Speaker 3: can walk away wins Zelenski overplayed his hand. He can't
Speaker 3: walk away without the United States. This is over quicker
Speaker 3: than he ever dreamed, and he won't get as good
Speaker 3: a deal. So I think I've covered that, and now
Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit about the president
Speaker 3: and the State of the Union.
Speaker 2: Was it the State of the Was it the State
Speaker 2: of the Union, or was just a his first address
Speaker 2: to Congress?
Speaker 3: I don't know which was it. I don't think he
Speaker 3: said he did it five times.
Speaker 1: Ummmmmm.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a State of the Union.
Speaker 3: Oh maybe you're right, you're looking at it.
Speaker 2: I'm looking it up. I don't know if they Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a state of the Union
Speaker 2: per se. I think it was, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I could be wrong, but it was something.
Speaker 3: It was something I am incredibly impressed with where the
Speaker 3: country is right now. There is an energy in the
Speaker 3: United States that hasn't been here for at least four years,
Speaker 3: maybe eight. I am impressed, maybe twelve since Trump's first presidency.
Speaker 3: There is an energy. I've talked about it before when
Speaker 3: I went for my first interview at LVMH and I
Speaker 3: met with Bernard Arnaud, the founder of LVMH, the world's
Speaker 3: largest luxury company, one of the richest men in the world.
Speaker 3: And I had a meeting with him, and I won't
Speaker 3: go through all the details, but we got together and
Speaker 3: his first question to me was Mark, what do you
Speaker 3: bring to a company? And I said to him, mister Arnaut,
Speaker 3: I bring energy. I bring energy to a company. I
Speaker 3: don't know where that answer came from. To this day,
Speaker 3: I am so pleased with myself, in shock with I
Speaker 3: came up to an answer, and I can tell you
Speaker 3: I saw it in his face the moment I said
Speaker 3: that I had the job. You want to talk Earlier,
Speaker 3: I talked about being impressionable and just in case I
Speaker 3: believe I had the job from that one answer, and
Speaker 3: of course I handle myself well throughout the rest of
Speaker 3: the interview. So when I look at the President, the
Speaker 3: first thing I say is he brought energy to our
Speaker 3: country and why he's made it clear that there's a
Speaker 3: new sheriff in town. Do you know, Jesse, here's one
Speaker 3: for you. I've read about this. Do you know sheriff
Speaker 3: badges have six points? And more importantly, do you know
Speaker 3: what all those six points stand for? Now? Ah? Well
Speaker 3: I do. I looked at it. I read it when
Speaker 3: I thought about him being this new sheriff in town. Integrity, courage, professionalism, service, commitment,
Speaker 3: and respect. Now, of course they also have to apply
Speaker 3: the law. But when I thought about those six things
Speaker 3: and I thought about Trump in the address he gave
Speaker 3: this week, I think he earned all those categories. He
Speaker 3: came in. He's trying to do the right thing, but
Speaker 3: he's doing it with a great deal of courage in
Speaker 3: changing everything that there is in front of us. And
Speaker 3: I love the way he conducted himself in that speech
Speaker 3: the other day. He was professional, he was presentational, but
Speaker 3: what he was great he was in your face when
Speaker 3: he started looking at the Democrats, who were all sitting
Speaker 3: there glum. He started in and saying, this past administration
Speaker 3: blew everything. They were useless. We are changing America. We're
Speaker 3: taking America back again, America. This is now going to
Speaker 3: be the Golden Age. Everything that was isn't anymore. And
Speaker 3: then here's the things that we're going to do now.
Speaker 3: I don't I guess the rest of the world picked
Speaker 3: it up right away the way I did. I'm watching
Speaker 3: the points he's making, and the entire Republican delegation elected
Speaker 3: to Congress stands up and is imploding. And none of
Speaker 3: the Democrats are imploring. None of them are standing up.
Speaker 3: And I'm saying to myself, what's going on here? You know,
Speaker 3: if they don't like, if they don't like eliminating DEI,
Speaker 3: how could they not stand up for the fact that
Speaker 3: immigration illegal immigration has trickled down to five percent, it's
Speaker 3: down ninety five percent? Then it was how could they
Speaker 3: not stand up and applaud that? How could they not
Speaker 3: stand up and applaud the waste that's been found in
Speaker 3: the government. And I'm watching this and I'm saying, to myself,
Speaker 3: what is Trump thinking? He's gotta be seeing what I'm
Speaker 3: seeing when he learned over and he looked at them
Speaker 3: and he said, it doesn't matter what I do. None
Speaker 3: of you going to stand up and applaud None of
Speaker 3: you have anything that you're gonna appreciate. I say, I'm
Speaker 3: wasting my time, said, if I discovered the cure to cancer,
Speaker 3: you wouldn't stand up and do it. I loved him that.
Speaker 3: It proves what a great communicator he is. It proves that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: How great was it when he called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then the camera went to her and she looked
Speaker 2: incredibly angry.
Speaker 3: What about Nancy Pelosa? She wasn't standing behind him ripping
Speaker 3: up his speeches this time. She looked like a church mouse.
Speaker 2: Look. I mean, can I give you my perspective absolutely.
Speaker 2: My perspective is the Democrats of their own worst enemy.
Speaker 2: They looked incredibly, incredibly weak. The Democrats who are going
Speaker 2: to do well in the future, who want people to
Speaker 2: come into their party, are the ones who have to
Speaker 2: look at the things that Trump administration is doing and
Speaker 2: give them credit for and try to work toward cooperation.
Speaker 2: They have disagreements, fine, but the ones are going to
Speaker 2: succeed are the ones that look reasonable, right, and so
Speaker 2: the fact that they didn't even stand up at certain
Speaker 2: key moments, even when there was a sick child in
Speaker 2: the audience, and that whole thing. But I think the
Speaker 2: other way of looking at it is two things can
Speaker 2: be true at once. You could say Donald Trump was
Speaker 2: very strong, the Democrats look weak. But but let's also
Speaker 2: be intellectually honest. Donald Trump was making a lot of
Speaker 2: claims and not all of them were one hundred percent accurate.
Speaker 2: So if you see opposition or you see people saying
Speaker 2: that's not true, you also have to be an honest
Speaker 2: broker about that. I think there were things that he
Speaker 2: was over exaggerating, and it depends upon how much people
Speaker 2: care about it or not, but there is something to
Speaker 2: be said. He was over exaggerating certain things.
Speaker 3: New sheriff in town gets to say what he wants
Speaker 3: to say. How about the Democrats holding up those stupid
Speaker 3: signs was more importantly back to the six points on
Speaker 3: the star. Respect. They absolutely have no respect for other
Speaker 3: people's opinions. They had their chance, the country voted against them.
Speaker 3: They went too far left. Everyone knows that. Everyone I
Speaker 3: think you would learn I found did incredibly disrespectful that
Speaker 3: they couldn't find common ground at all. I saw what's
Speaker 3: his name, Ted Cruz. I saw Ted Cruz from Texas
Speaker 3: on I think Fox News. Afterwards, I was changing the channels.
Speaker 3: He said, it's the first time in a historical memory
Speaker 3: that a president addressed Congress and the other party stood
Speaker 3: up for nothing. He said, you know, there are times
Speaker 3: I'm sitting there listening to former Democratic presidents speak, but
Speaker 3: I stand up for those things that are right. You know, Jesse,
Speaker 3: this show, you go back five years ago, long before
Speaker 3: Donald Trump decided to run for office. Okay, I had
Speaker 3: a thing that common sense was not so common. I
Speaker 3: talked about the problem with common sense and business and
Speaker 3: common sense at work. It isn't common, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: What we saw this week was no common sense. Back
Speaker 3: to negotiating, Zelenski no common sense in his negotiation. He
Speaker 3: could not win the Democrats right now, cannot win now
Speaker 3: when you talk about voters, if they want to get
Speaker 3: voters again, Look, as long as you're a Democrat in
Speaker 3: this country, you're gonna get seventy million votes. There's no
Speaker 3: question about it. You could stand for all the wrong things.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what you stand for, what you do
Speaker 3: you're gonna get votes, but to win. That's where I
Speaker 3: agree with you. They lost the center of the country
Speaker 3: because that's who we are. You have people on the right,
Speaker 3: have people on the left. You agree, you don't agree,
Speaker 3: But somewhere along the way, we've always been able to
Speaker 3: come together on these things. The whole Democratic Party is
Speaker 3: anti Trump on the Zelenski move. If you take away
Speaker 3: what Trump is saying, I want to stop the killing,
Speaker 3: and Zelensky's not going to win the war. What's the
Speaker 3: debate here, what's the negotiation? Get them the best deal
Speaker 3: they can. That's my take, that's my politics. Anything else
Speaker 3: you'd like to add, My young son.
Speaker 2: No, I think you nailed it. I think it's interesting
Speaker 2: time to say the least.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to it Always in Fashion. Here's your host,
Speaker 1: Mark Webber.
Speaker 3: Tonight's show is just in case, taking a moment to
Speaker 3: think about all those things you need to think about
Speaker 3: in order to be successful and not make mistakes. But
Speaker 3: I have to tell you when I'm really thinking about
Speaker 3: is loneliness. I have to tell you I'm lonely. I
Speaker 3: admit I have very little to do, but I don't
Speaker 3: have enough time to do it. But I do feel alone.
Speaker 3: And it got me thinking about the president, got me
Speaker 3: thinking about making decisions and being the CEO because I
Speaker 3: got a bunch of things going on with CEOs and
Speaker 3: CEO Exchange, a new show I'm trying to get behind
Speaker 3: and build. We'll talk about that in amendment. But I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about how lonely it is at the top, and
Speaker 3: that the wind blows hardest at the top of the mountain,
Speaker 3: and when you're the CEO and making decisions. It is
Speaker 3: a lonely, lonely place. Now think for the moment about tariffs,
Speaker 3: I would pretty much say, other than a handful, the
Speaker 3: whole world is against Trump and his tariffs. If I'm wrong, great,
Speaker 3: because it's unknown what's going on with tariffs right now.
Speaker 3: And I think we've broken it down before, and I
Speaker 3: want to break it down just a minute. If you
Speaker 3: listen to what's being said. A big part of the
Speaker 3: tariffs on China and Mexico and Canada have to do
Speaker 3: with that and all. And Trump is weaponizing tariffs and saying,
Speaker 3: if you don't stop the flow of fentonol into this
Speaker 3: country or the component parts that make it, we are
Speaker 3: going to tax the hell out of you in other
Speaker 3: categories to get even, and to make sure not to
Speaker 3: get even, We're going to tax the hell out of
Speaker 3: you on it many different products to bring you to
Speaker 3: the table and get you to do the right thing.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that will work. I don't know
Speaker 3: if connecting the dots there will work. I don't know
Speaker 3: why any country wouldn't say they would try and help
Speaker 3: maintain that law. And at the same time they said
Speaker 3: to Canada and Mexico, but Canada in particular, stop the
Speaker 3: border crossings in Canada. You got a huge border with
Speaker 3: the United States. We have a problem of illegal immigration.
Speaker 3: We want it to stop. Unless you do it, We're
Speaker 3: going to penalize you. That I get. I don't know
Speaker 3: if it works. But what are you thinking about tariffs?
Speaker 3: Not gonna you wanted to ask me something, jess what's.
Speaker 2: On your nd I can't tell if tariffs are good
Speaker 2: for the economy, whether or not they increase inflation. Maybe
Speaker 2: you have an answer to that.
Speaker 3: Well, the reason you can't tell is because nobody knows
Speaker 3: the answer. The reality is is long long ago when
Speaker 3: the first conversations about free trade happened. Really the conversation
Speaker 3: shifted from free trade to fair trade. If tariffs are
Speaker 3: put on our goods being shipped into Europe, like the
Speaker 3: vat tax in the UK, then why don't we do
Speaker 3: the same thing to them. It's a question about what's right.
Speaker 3: It's a question about integrity, and it's a question about
Speaker 3: fair Even though I don't believe in fair, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: I respect the President for trying to get parody. If
Speaker 3: he's trying to raise tariffs solely to get Americans to
Speaker 3: come back and build plants in the United States, and
Speaker 3: it's a mechanism to give them a helping hand. I
Speaker 3: like it, but it's going to cause problems. You have
Speaker 3: to find ways to ma make automobiles in this United States,
Speaker 3: and a lot of our competitors around the world do
Speaker 3: make automobiles yet. So there are things that make sense.
Speaker 3: But when you hear that the price of avocados is
Speaker 3: going to go up because of our trade war with Mexico,
Speaker 3: or you hear some of the other things, there is
Speaker 3: a very strong chance that prices are going to escalate.
Speaker 3: But the effectiveness on business may or may not work,
Speaker 3: and nobody knows the answer to be specific. Jesse I
Speaker 3: called a couple of people and asked them in the retail,
Speaker 3: luxury and fashion business. I said, if there's an additional
Speaker 3: twenty percent on China, what are you going to do?
Speaker 3: The answers varied, but I will tell you some of
Speaker 3: the people said, when Trump was in the president last
Speaker 3: time and he put tariffs on China, we resource goods
Speaker 3: to other countries. So a lot of what was the
Speaker 3: problem then has been fixed. Secondarily, today, if you raise
Speaker 3: prices on goods that are coming into the country now,
Speaker 3: there's not much room to move. You can't go to
Speaker 3: your customers and tell you I need you to pay more,
Speaker 3: and retailers are not going to raise their prices. So
Speaker 3: retailers will win. Somebody else is going to have to
Speaker 3: eat it. It's either going to be the manufacturers overseas
Speaker 3: in China and Mexico or the people importing them, those
Speaker 3: people with the brands selling these products. So unless you
Speaker 3: have time to work this through into next year, prices
Speaker 3: are gonna go up or someone's gonna make a lot
Speaker 3: less money. And that we don't know how it's gonna work.
Speaker 3: So again, it's a big negotiation. And that's what I think.
Speaker 3: So for me, I think the tariffs can work. I
Speaker 3: think if they're designed to get parody. You tax me
Speaker 3: on what I ship to you, I'm taxing you on
Speaker 3: what you shipped to me. That's good common sense. You
Speaker 3: better think about what you're doing in your country before
Speaker 3: you're goin to take advantage of us here. All the
Speaker 3: rest could be a little too massiacal, a little too machiavellian,
Speaker 3: But I leave Trump and his team to figure out
Speaker 3: what to do with it. But I was talking about
Speaker 3: being alone. And that's why one of the things that
Speaker 3: Trump's alone on being a CEO. As I said a
Speaker 3: moment ago, it is a very lonely place to be
Speaker 3: because the reality is you're making the decisions and nobody
Speaker 3: else is it's I was a president of PVH for
Speaker 3: seven years. I was on the board for seven years.
Speaker 3: I wasn't the CEO. And during that entire time when
Speaker 3: I was president, I cared about the company's success more
Speaker 3: than anyone. I worked as hard and as smart as anyone.
Speaker 3: I never slept. My mind was always on doing what
Speaker 3: was better for the company. But the reality was the
Speaker 3: board wasn't looking at me for the answers. The board
Speaker 3: was looking at the CEO, and the CEO would either
Speaker 3: make it his way or the highway, either he was
Speaker 3: successful or he wouldn't be there any longer. It's lonely
Speaker 3: to be a CEO. Now. I've been interviewed a million times,
Speaker 3: and one of the most interesting interviews along the way
Speaker 3: had to do with what it was like being a CEO.
Speaker 3: And the problem is there's no way to hide you're responsible.
Speaker 3: While you're the final judge and jury, you get judged.
Speaker 3: You're the only one in a company that is responsible. Now,
Speaker 3: if you're the CFO, the chief financial officer, and you
Speaker 3: make a wrong entry, if you do something that isn't right,
Speaker 3: you'll be held accountable. But the reality is the strategy
Speaker 3: of the company, the operating company down to the clerks,
Speaker 3: is all the responsibility of the CEO. He rests on
Speaker 3: him alone. And I was the president of the company
Speaker 3: with all the pressure sitting on the board, I knew
Speaker 3: that I wasn't responsible. He was, and it took a
Speaker 3: lot of the weight off of my shoulders. And it's
Speaker 3: just the way it is. I remember one of the
Speaker 3: best questions I was asked when I was CEO in
Speaker 3: those interviews is what is the toughest part about being CEO?
Speaker 3: I'll ask you that, Jesse, what do you think A.
Speaker 2: Lot of responsibility, a lot of things to keep on check,
Speaker 2: everybody reporting to you. When the bill, the buck stops
Speaker 2: with you. If something's not successful, it all comes.
Speaker 3: Back to you.
Speaker 2: You can't put the blame on anyone else, right.
Speaker 3: Well, we can argue that there are a lot of
Speaker 3: things that people might say, and I think that's a
Speaker 3: good choice for me. My answer you ready was communicating,
Speaker 3: because communicating is leadership. Once again, I referred to the
Speaker 3: President's speech this week. He was in command. He let
Speaker 3: the world know there was a new sheriff in town.
Speaker 3: He let the world know he had a vision. He
Speaker 3: let the world know what he was going to do.
Speaker 3: He was an amazing communicator that night. And when I
Speaker 3: was asked that question, I said that communication and communicating
Speaker 3: is the toughest thing a CEO has to do, and
Speaker 3: I explained that managing is a multi directional process. You
Speaker 3: need to manage upwards to your bosses, to your board,
Speaker 3: to your shareholders. Stakeholders. They need to know what you
Speaker 3: intend to do. They need to know how you're doing.
Speaker 3: At the same time, your leadership has to go sidews
Speaker 3: to your colleagues. They too have to step in line.
Speaker 3: They have to know why they're working, they have to
Speaker 3: know what they're trying to accomplish. Then you have to
Speaker 3: manage downwards to your staff, the people that do the
Speaker 3: day to day work, to ensure that they're on board.
Speaker 3: They understand what the prize is, they understand how you
Speaker 3: intend to get there and what you want to accomplish.
Speaker 3: And less but not least, you have to talk outward
Speaker 3: to your partners to your suppliers, and most importantly to
Speaker 3: your customers the consumers. What are you standing for? What
Speaker 3: are you promising? What are you going to deliver? Very
Speaker 3: very complicated to lead and have that whole thing communicated
Speaker 3: in a proper way that all those constituents know what
Speaker 3: you're thinking and of course your vision, what you plan
Speaker 3: to do differently, how you intend to get there. CEOs
Speaker 3: must lead, so I said, it is lonely being the CEO. Yes,
Speaker 3: they get the perks. I've also been asked, what's my
Speaker 3: favorite perk? Now that you mention it, you want to
Speaker 3: guess what that was, Jesse having.
Speaker 2: I think I know what the answer is. You want
Speaker 2: me to say it? If you do control over your schedule, time.
Speaker 3: Ah, you heard me say it before, You're right. You're right.
Speaker 3: The ability to plan my world out, travel when I want,
Speaker 3: go where I want, take whom I want with me,
Speaker 3: go alone. The control of time and the decision making
Speaker 3: acquired with that is one of the most gifted things
Speaker 3: I've ever had in my career, because up until then,
Speaker 3: any given day I have a plan of what I
Speaker 3: want to do. Anybody above me calls me and does
Speaker 3: me come down to their office. It gives me something
Speaker 3: else to do. I'm constantly being taken away from the
Speaker 3: job or the task at hand. When you're the CEO,
Speaker 3: your control of your time, unless, of course, there's an emergency.
Speaker 3: So the ability to do what you want when you want,
Speaker 3: your style, knowing the goal, knowing the prize was in
Speaker 3: my view, the greatest perk in the world. Now, having
Speaker 3: said all that, I'll make it clear. Yes, the CEOs
Speaker 3: get the big bucks. Yes, though the pressure, the responsibility,
Speaker 3: the risk to the future, the risk to the company
Speaker 3: is a heavy weight they have to carry. And yes
Speaker 3: I said it before. Being at the top, the wind
Speaker 3: at the top of the mountain blows the hardest, and
Speaker 3: that's what the CEO is contending with. So as I
Speaker 3: sit here and think about loneliness, I'll probably do a
Speaker 3: show on it. But I gotta tell you, knowing the pressure,
Speaker 3: knowing where to take to be successful, makes you think
Speaker 3: just in case, back in a moment.
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Speaker 1: For men, welcome back to it. Always in fashion.
Speaker 3: Here's your host, Mark Webber tonight's show. Just in case,
Speaker 3: Just in case, you want to be successful. I want
Speaker 3: to talk to you about something. I want to talk
Speaker 3: to you about what you do before you do it.
Speaker 3: I know how I prepare by myself for success, but
Speaker 3: before I go there. Jesse, you're on a lot of
Speaker 3: TV show and a lot of radio shows. In particularly
Speaker 3: you're on News Nation. You're a legal contributor. I only
Speaker 3: think of you as a host when you're hosting Dan
Speaker 3: Abrams Show or Chris Como's or Elizabeth Fargas or Ashley Banfield.
Speaker 3: I've seen you do them all. You grated it. I'm
Speaker 3: so proud of you. But I think of it for
Speaker 3: a second. Yeah, you're hosting Chris Cuomo's show. You got
Speaker 3: to be as good as Chris if you can be.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love that guy. I love the way he's treated you.
Speaker 3: I love your back and forth with him. I'm really
Speaker 3: forever beholden too, Chris Cuomo for the way he's treated
Speaker 3: you at News Nation. Having said that you have to
Speaker 3: be as good as him? So what do you do
Speaker 3: to prepare when you know you're hosting his show?
Speaker 2: I have to First of all, I'm very active with
Speaker 2: the producers in every story, what's the angles we want
Speaker 2: to hit. I'm very fully researched on each part because
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that the conversations I have
Speaker 2: with the guests are intelligent, that we're thorough, that we're
Speaker 2: trying to get to points that maybe other sides aren't
Speaker 2: getting to. So I have to be as fully prepared.
Speaker 2: I don't just go in, read the prompter, read the questions,
Speaker 2: and walk out. Not those shows. So it's very important
Speaker 2: that I'm very prepared and researched as well as possible.
Speaker 2: And also I try to add something different. I try
Speaker 2: to add a little bit of my personality, which is
Speaker 2: different than anybody else's.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you're right on. And the part of
Speaker 3: the show that may be considered the fashion component, considering
Speaker 3: it's called always in fashion. I have a couple of
Speaker 3: things I want to talk to you about. In preparation
Speaker 3: for success, I joined companies where everybody is smart. Now,
Speaker 3: let me step back for a minute. When I was
Speaker 3: a PVH and part of the senior management team, there
Speaker 3: were twenty six of us, men and women. All it's
Speaker 3: the senior leaders of the company, all making the decisions,
Speaker 3: all doing what the board and the shareholders expected us
Speaker 3: to do. Was that we would build a company that
Speaker 3: would last a lifetime and we would grow between ten
Speaker 3: and twenty percent a year. That was the goal, and
Speaker 3: that's what we were committed to. And in order to
Speaker 3: do that, I looked around the room and I would
Speaker 3: say to you, of the twenty six people that were
Speaker 3: a PVHS, six or seven were truly brilliant. And I
Speaker 3: always used to look at them and say to myself,
Speaker 3: how do I compete with those seven? And how do
Speaker 3: I stand out amongst them? And here's a tip for you,
Speaker 3: Jesse touched it. I was prepared, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what I did. First of all,
Speaker 3: I read everything that was to read. I knew people
Speaker 3: were busy. I knew that my competitors weren't reading Women's
Speaker 3: Wear daily every day. They weren't reading Memoir magazine every day.
Speaker 3: They weren't reading the New York Times fashion pages. Maybe
Speaker 3: some of them would touch it, maybe they'd watch it
Speaker 3: on the weekend. They all got too busy. They all there.
Speaker 3: I read everything. I read Forbes, I read BusinessWeek, I
Speaker 3: read all the articles I could possibly read. Yes, I
Speaker 3: looked at fashion magazines, Giku, Xi, Maxim. I did it all.
Speaker 3: And I felt that reading would give me the heads
Speaker 3: up because every time I read an article, I would
Speaker 3: know a little more than the next guy. To this day,
Speaker 3: I read articles. I send them to Jesse, I send
Speaker 3: them to my son Jared, who's in that business. I
Speaker 3: know that I was always ahead of the game. And
Speaker 3: you'd be surprised. As something you might have read on
Speaker 3: the cover of a magazine, everyone should have known. You
Speaker 3: would voice it as your opinion. Something you read, you'd
Speaker 3: look smarter than the rest. I was always always prepared.
Speaker 3: Another thing I always did was shop. To this day,
Speaker 3: even though the name of the show is always in fashion.
Speaker 3: It's the smallest component of what we talk about. But
Speaker 3: I got to tell you I am current on what's
Speaker 3: going on in the fashion, retail, luxury business. Why because
Speaker 3: I'm in the stores whenever I have free time. Now,
Speaker 3: the good news here is I don't work for a living.
Speaker 3: I do this tells me to speak. I shop when
Speaker 3: I walk in the stores. Again, whenever I used to
Speaker 3: go to board meetings, whenever I used to go to
Speaker 3: meetings with a senior manager of my company, I know
Speaker 3: I just walked through J. C. Penny. I know I
Speaker 3: spent time in Northstream. I knew I was in Macy's
Speaker 3: and I knew they weren't. So if they talked about
Speaker 3: a brand, Vince, that's a brand that some of you knew,
Speaker 3: some of you don't, Vince contemporary brand. I knew what
Speaker 3: Vince was doing, and I knew what looked well and
Speaker 3: I know what didn't look well. I knew what Sneakers
Speaker 3: were exciting. When I walked into one of the Sneakers
Speaker 3: stores Finish Line, you pick one, I knew what was happening.
Speaker 3: So I knew what was going on and active. So
Speaker 3: shopping always prepared me which brings me to story. I
Speaker 3: was running as part of lvmhor responsibility. One of the
Speaker 3: responsibilities was the chairmanship of Donna Karen dk why and
Speaker 3: we made a decision. I made a decision. To board agreed,
Speaker 3: Bernardo no agreed. The managing director, Antonio Bellon agreed to
Speaker 3: buy back our gene's license from an outside third party
Speaker 3: who was not doing well with it. Made the decision.
Speaker 3: It was one of the most remarkable meetings I ever had,
Speaker 3: and I had done all my research. I did research,
Speaker 3: I walked the store, I talked to the biggest accounts.
Speaker 3: I knew exactly what needed to be done. I started
Speaker 3: recruiting people looking for a president of that gene's company,
Speaker 3: figuring by the time we finished it, I would have
Speaker 3: a person in command. And I met a number of women,
Speaker 3: and I met a number of guys. But one woman,
Speaker 3: particularly in the early stages, really impressed me. Now, she
Speaker 3: spoke well, she was dressed well. I liked her shoes,
Speaker 3: which said to me she understood something about our business.
Speaker 3: Her whole package reeked to me a professionalism, and I
Speaker 3: liked what she had to say. She was a seller
Speaker 3: by heart. Now, there are many different kinds of people
Speaker 3: that can run companies. Let me just take a moment
Speaker 3: to tell you that I was a merchant. I understood
Speaker 3: product and I understood marketing. My predecessor, now, my predecessor
Speaker 3: was an operations guy. The person who succeeded me, PVH
Speaker 3: was a financial guy. You can see people from all
Speaker 3: walks of life become president and CEOs of company. This
Speaker 3: particular woman impressed me and we got down to the interview.
Speaker 3: She was sharp as could be, and I was impressed,
Speaker 3: and I was ready to hire her until I asked
Speaker 3: her one question. I said, what do you think about
Speaker 3: our stores? And she looked at me and she didn't
Speaker 3: answer me. I said, you know, we have two don
Speaker 3: account Collection stores in New York and I have six
Speaker 3: DKY Jeans store. What did you think about DKY store?
Speaker 3: And what do you think about the Jens? And she's
Speaker 3: quiet and said I didn't visit them. And I looked
Speaker 3: at it. I said, what do you mean you didn't
Speaker 3: visit them? She said, well, you know, I didn't have time.
Speaker 3: I had a prepare I was working. I knew I
Speaker 3: was coming here. I said, time out. You're coming to
Speaker 3: meet me the ceover company. You're interviewing for president of
Speaker 3: one of my divisions. I have six stores in DKY
Speaker 3: and New York City Town, Downtown, all around the city.
Speaker 3: You can have gone in anyway, and you didn't go in.
Speaker 3: She put her head down and said, I made a mistake.
Speaker 3: I said, you did so when I'm talking about being prepared,
Speaker 3: the fact that she was interviewing for a president level job.
Speaker 3: At that level, she didn't do what I just spent
Speaker 3: the last ten minutes doing, being prepared, knowing more than
Speaker 3: the next guy. She should have come in and said
Speaker 3: to me, I loved the stores. I hated the stores.
Speaker 3: I liked the store. It could have been done. I
Speaker 3: saw the jeens. You were missing this. I really appreciated
Speaker 3: your wide leg jeans. I thought the tops could have
Speaker 3: been better. I loved your sweater. I looked at the store.
Speaker 3: I watched the people working. There's a lot of traction
Speaker 3: in the store. While dkmy had so many products, the
Speaker 3: genes seemed to generate a lot of attention. I liked
Speaker 3: your price points, I liked the quality. I loved everything.
Speaker 3: After all, I'm a Jeens person. I understood that nothing, zero, nada.
Speaker 3: The interview ended right there, and because of as a gentleman.
Speaker 3: I didn't tell her she lost the job. I said
Speaker 3: to her, you know, with all due respect, maybe this
Speaker 3: is one of those lessons you can learn in life.
Speaker 3: Maybe this is important enough for me to stop and
Speaker 3: tell you. You're coming to me CEO. By you not
Speaker 3: shopping my stores, you're you're questioning my intelligence. It's not respectful,
Speaker 3: but you're questioning my intelligence. You're underestimating what I know.
Speaker 3: I could answer all those questions. I just asked you,
Speaker 3: and you come to me on an interview to be present.
Speaker 3: Says you're right. I have nothing else to say, and
Speaker 3: I said, I'll tell you what. I'll try and forget this.
Speaker 3: But I want you to go back shop the stores,
Speaker 3: and when you feel you have a good picture of it,
Speaker 3: I want you to come back and I'll meet with
Speaker 3: you again. Now I could have told her send me
Speaker 3: a report, but the good guy in me, the one
Speaker 3: who wanted to teach, thought she deserved the opportunity to
Speaker 3: sit in front of me again. And she did. She
Speaker 3: did much better. I told her she did. I said, look,
Speaker 3: you're one of a number of candidates. We're still going
Speaker 3: through the process. I thank you for doing what you
Speaker 3: just did. I hope you learned a lesson and we'll
Speaker 3: see where we go from here. She thanked me. She left.
Speaker 3: We never hired her. We found someone that I thought
Speaker 3: was much better, and unfrankly speaking, that was that was
Speaker 3: a defining moment that I don't think I could get over.
Speaker 3: But just for example, I mentioned before when I interviewed
Speaker 3: with Bernard Arnau for the CEO job at LVMH and
Speaker 3: the chairmanship of Donna Karen. I flew to Paris that day.
Speaker 3: When I arrived at two o'clock, I was jet legged,
Speaker 3: I was beat, but I went to every single store
Speaker 3: that was on Gallery Lafayette or the department stores to
Speaker 3: see how the brands were being treated. I want to
Speaker 3: see if Eton would be in print on well Gallery Lafayette.
Speaker 3: I wanted to know exactly. So when I sat down
Speaker 3: with Bernard Arnaud, the chairman of the company, I was prepared.
Speaker 3: I did this just in case he asked me those questions,
Speaker 3: and tonight's show is just in case. I did all
Speaker 3: this work just in case he would have asked me
Speaker 3: something that I didn't expect to be asked. If he
Speaker 3: asked me my opinion, I would have one just in
Speaker 3: case he had a specific question, and he would ask me,
Speaker 3: what did you think of the Denhim handbag that was
Speaker 3: in the window of the Vton store on Avenue Montaigne.
Speaker 3: I would have the answer just in case. I was prepared,
Speaker 3: and I said earlier the first question he asked me,
Speaker 3: what do I bring to a company, mister Orno, I
Speaker 3: bring energy and I'm all about energy. With that, I
Speaker 3: wish you good night. I hope you enjoyed the show.
Speaker 3: Talk to you soon.