WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:01.040 Day. 2 00:00:01.120 --> 00:00:04.679 Plod Talk is the best only podcast where the whole 3 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:09.240 smashed the guess ye, plod Talk is the best only 4 00:00:09.359 --> 00:00:11.599 podcasts where the whole smashed the guests. 5 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:15.199 Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of plug Talk. My 6 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:18.239 name is Adam twenty two. I am joined by my beautiful, 7 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:23.079 cherry ice cream looking ass wife. The plug looks like 8 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:24.359 ice cream. I'm just gonna say. 9 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:25.879 It, and you must be hungry. 10 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.239 I am uh. And today we're sitting down on the 11 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:31.120 couch with the beautiful the Regal. 12 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:33.640 Violet Boss Regal. 13 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.359 I like that I applied that word to you today. 14 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:38.439 I feel like, personally you may have a future in 15 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:39.039 the monarchy. 16 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:43.000 I would love that because then I could do what 17 00:00:43.039 --> 00:00:44.679 I really want to do, which is the men. 18 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:48.000 Oh what do you really want to do to men? 19 00:00:49.159 --> 00:00:52.399 Enslave most? Please? I volunteers. 20 00:00:54.799 --> 00:00:56.960 I was thinking that though they're like you, seem like 21 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:59.520 you have like dominatrix vibes like you you're used to, 22 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:01.159 like sub you're getting men like me. 23 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:05.920 No, maybe not like you, but you know, like beta 24 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:10.799 men or I don't know. I figure you might be 25 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:11.719 slightly alpha. 26 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:17.959 No, I'm a bit you can't tell me ship right right? Well, 27 00:01:18.560 --> 00:01:21.719 just kidding, but I don't know. I am like kind 28 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:23.680 of fascinated by her energy. I'm trying to figure out 29 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:24.159 what's going on. 30 00:01:24.200 --> 00:01:26.359 I was going to say that I feel like she 31 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.879 is your exact type in what way she reads a 32 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.920 little goth vibe and you love that a little bit. 33 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.200 But but I'm not getting it, Like, no, tattoo. 34 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:39.400 Tattoo is not like what you're talking about. 35 00:01:39.680 --> 00:01:42.159 But the dark hair, the fair skin. 36 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:43.599 You don't listen to metal. 37 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:47.120 Sometimes, like when I'm on my peloton, like I'll take 38 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:49.439 the heat class are for. 39 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.200 Each other, the peloton heavy metal classes. That's an amazing 40 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:55.680 way to say that you're into metal. That's so cool. 41 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:56.560 I didn't know that exists. 42 00:01:56.599 --> 00:01:58.120 I feel like that is the only time I would 43 00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:01.680 ever choose to listen to metal. As if I was out, Yeah, 44 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:03.799 he'll be like taking notes to it. 45 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:08.319 Oh well, if I'm if I have to write for 46 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:11.159 a couple of hours, I will put on like just 47 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:13.719 metal because it's just oh yeah, just keeps me in 48 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:17.000 the zone. It's chaotic, it's not much to think about 49 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:18.680 or there's like a lot to think about, but I'm 50 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.360 not really going to think about it. It works for me. 51 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:24.120 No, My thing is like mid century chill music. When 52 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.960 I've got to sit down and work mid century chill music, 53 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:28.879 I don't know, look that it's Spotify later. 54 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.800 I'm trying to figure out like the fifteen hundreds. Okay, 55 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:34.199 I'm in the middle of the century. 56 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:39.879 No like sixties, seventies es. But it's like no no vocals, right, yeah, 57 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:42.360 I can have eighth would. 58 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:44.280 Be you see what I did. I assume that the 59 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:46.080 middle of the century was five hundred years ago and 60 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.240 not fifty years ago. It's pretty embarrassing. 61 00:02:47.960 --> 00:02:49.800 Because that's a millennia, I know. 62 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:57.319 But still anyway, anyway, so what was that you're petting me, because. 63 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:57.879 It's petting you. 64 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:00.599 Anyway? Okay, where are you from? 65 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:02.599 Waco, Texas? 66 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:03.439 Cool? 67 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:05.759 No? Not cool? 68 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.719 No, I say cool because they had a famous cult thing. 69 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.000 May be too young to know that's cute. 70 00:03:12.039 --> 00:03:14.840 I feel like you heard about this, Yeah, David Koresh, Baby, 71 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:16.879 we ain't coming out, but I did. 72 00:03:19.520 --> 00:03:22.479 They wouldn't come out of the compound. 73 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:24.520 Yeah, it was like a church compound. It was a 74 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:28.360 religious cult and he held like all the people hostage. 75 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.680 I don't know. I think it was like twenty thirty days. 76 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:33.560 But they were down because they were like such serious 77 00:03:33.560 --> 00:03:37.719 believers syndrome basically, and the FEDS fucking surrounded it and 78 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:41.000 then eventually stormed it. This was like everything on TV 79 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:42.360 for a few weeks when I was a kid. 80 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.240 Yeah, okay, maybe yeah. They were like the FBI was 81 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.319 just there like every day for thirty days, and they 82 00:03:47.719 --> 00:03:49.639 did they stalk back, and I have so many questions. 83 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:50.319 I got to look this up. 84 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:51.800 I think they were doomers. I think they had like 85 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:52.879 a lot of food saved up. 86 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:56.240 Yeah they did. Yeah, they like stockpiled it. What's funny 87 00:03:56.360 --> 00:04:00.919 is now it's a best Buy. Yeah. 88 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:01.240 Yeah. 89 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:02.960 I grew up like right next to it, and my 90 00:04:03.080 --> 00:04:05.360 dad used to be like, yeah, that's where David Koresh 91 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.879 was at. And now it's a fucking shopping center. 92 00:04:10.120 --> 00:04:13.400 Ironically, the best Buy eventually will probably go the way 93 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:18.959 of the Waco Colt because realistically, best Buy kind of 94 00:04:19.040 --> 00:04:20.560 I don't think it's meant to last. 95 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:22.360 My washing machine from there. 96 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:24.439 Would that bummy out if the best buye was gone? 97 00:04:24.680 --> 00:04:27.439 No? No, I mean I don't know when's the last 98 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:29.079 time you's have been. I went, like a year ago, 99 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.279 nobody was in there. You're always empty. I go, I'll 100 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:33.279 do like an order pick up. 101 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:36.199 But yeah, I mean I am a retail shopper. If 102 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:38.199 I need something, I will go buy it at best 103 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:40.319 Buy or whatever. But even that being said, I haven't 104 00:04:40.319 --> 00:04:41.439 been to Besbue and probably. 105 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:42.720 Like by like four things a year. 106 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:45.279 I don't like anything I know, but like, if I 107 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:47.639 need toothpaste, I'm like just gonna literally go to CBS. 108 00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:49.279 I'm not gonna go on Amazon. What would you do 109 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:50.439 if you need a toothpaste? 110 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:53.040 Yeah, I would run to the drug store. Well, it 111 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.959 depends though, Like I've gotten like in this old lady 112 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.279 era when I'm at home, like I'll just amazon all it. 113 00:05:00.600 --> 00:05:03.160 It's a toothpaste, Like, then I'm like, fuck it. Then 114 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:04.240 I don't have to go to the store. 115 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:07.199 Do you have enough toothpaste for that day? Then you 116 00:05:07.240 --> 00:05:09.800 can amazon it. If you need it immediately, then we're 117 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:11.720 going to the store. I'm not gonna not brush my teeth. 118 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:14.079 No ooh, we don't. 119 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:16.720 Okay, I'm definitely brushing my teeth. That's not on the 120 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:18.439 table saying. 121 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:22.000 The way that you shop depends on how pressing it is. 122 00:05:22.519 --> 00:05:24.319 I am thinking about getting more in line with your 123 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:26.360 style of life, though, I'm thinking, like, you know, maybe 124 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:27.839 I need to be the kind of guy. They're just like, 125 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:31.439 I need toothpaste. Boom, I order twenty tubes of toothpaste. 126 00:05:31.480 --> 00:05:32.279 And then that's you. 127 00:05:32.199 --> 00:05:33.959 Know why, because your husband's gonna come in from the 128 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.160 next room and say, hey, I'm out of deodorant, and 129 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:36.759 I'm gonna. 130 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:38.360 Say no, no, no, no, no, no no. Look at this 131 00:05:38.480 --> 00:05:42.199 drawer for deordorance right here. Don't tell me anything. I 132 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:43.560 order you fucking deodorant. 133 00:05:43.600 --> 00:05:46.319 But you want to let don't get married because she's married. 134 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:49.639 Yeah, I'm married back, all right, don't. 135 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:53.319 Get married with someone like her because she uh made 136 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.439 me stop wearing old spice the regulars. 137 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:57.879 Why would you wear that? Exactly? 138 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.560 They advertise it to me on TV my entire But 139 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.279 then she bought me some weird organic uh deodor and 140 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:05.959 then complains that I don't smell it. 141 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:08.360 You smell even when you wore old spice. So what 142 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.600 difference does it make to me? Don't you smell it? 143 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:13.720 Don't you love like a man's smell? 144 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:18.759 There's levels? What kind of smell? Are we talking? Like? 145 00:06:18.879 --> 00:06:19.519 Body odor? 146 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:20.120 Body? 147 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:22.639 Yeah, but that day you came home, I don't know 148 00:06:22.639 --> 00:06:23.199 what you were doing. 149 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:30.519 You smell like a bag of what like funians. 150 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:34.040 She's not gonna want to sleep with me smell. But 151 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:36.480 the thing is that some shirts you wear, it's like 152 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:38.759 the sweat doesn't like absorb it in the shirt, so 153 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:41.639 it kind of like the shirt starts to like stink weird. 154 00:06:41.439 --> 00:06:42.839 And like you should change what you're wearing. 155 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:45.040 I'm just saying, sometimes you gotta wear like a cool 156 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:48.360 fashioned shirt that doesn't like absorb sweat as well. 157 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:54.120 Okay. Anyway, so she's from Waco, Texas. 158 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:55.920 Yes, which and how annoying is it to tell people 159 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:57.839 about being from Waco, Texas and then they always bring 160 00:06:57.920 --> 00:06:59.639 up the same exact thing like me? But probably the 161 00:06:59.639 --> 00:07:00.879 younger generation doesn't. 162 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:04.720 No, yeah, I wasn't even born yet when that happens. 163 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:06.040 But how old are you? 164 00:07:06.720 --> 00:07:07.480 Twenty seven? 165 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:13.439 Okay? Yeah? Maybe nice? Okay. And so do you have 166 00:07:13.480 --> 00:07:15.399 a pretty traditional upbringing I'm assuming. 167 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:18.360 Oh yeah, I grew up in the Baptist bell going 168 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:19.879 to church three times a week. 169 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:23.839 Oh wow, Okay. At what point did you start to think, oh, 170 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:27.480 I'm going to just embarrass God and just become a 171 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:28.040 porn star. 172 00:07:29.879 --> 00:07:32.360 Oh my god. Well it was after I went to college, 173 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:35.560 which I had to go to a religious school if 174 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:40.160 I was going to be supported at all. No. I 175 00:07:40.199 --> 00:07:44.079 actually got kicked out a year after going to this school. 176 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.160 They expelled me because it was a very small, like 177 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.759 Christian school in New York City, because they broke like 178 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:53.000 every rule that they had in place. Like I drank 179 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:57.360 alcohol on campus and in my dorm room and I 180 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.920 brought back boys to my dorm room. Wasn't doing this, no, really, 181 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:03.199 just just me. 182 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:05.639 Sounds like a very serious religious school. 183 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.199 Yeah, because that's what everyone does in college. They drink 184 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:10.160 in the dorm room and they right and they set 185 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:10.680 their room. 186 00:08:10.959 --> 00:08:13.079 Yeah yeah, and so you were fucking and drinking. 187 00:08:13.519 --> 00:08:17.720 Oh yeah. And I remember bringing boys back on several occasions, 188 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:20.600 like at two am in my roommates like sleeping right there. 189 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:22.920 We're in this tiny room because it's New York City, 190 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:25.600 and we're just like going at it on the floor. 191 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:29.160 It's like something and something by. 192 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:30.199 Your roommates for fucking. 193 00:08:30.439 --> 00:08:32.759 No, she actually didn't rat on me. They just like 194 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:36.120 figured it out from the camera footage, I guess of 195 00:08:36.759 --> 00:08:38.960 oh yeah, because not always because they are own like 196 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:40.080 the whole building, and. 197 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:41.240 So oh wow. 198 00:08:41.279 --> 00:08:43.639 Yeah, they saw the footage and then they pulled me 199 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.679 into the office. There were like twelve whatever school executives, 200 00:08:49.039 --> 00:08:52.279 and they showed me my own photos on Instagram and 201 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.159 they gotta go, Yeah, what kind of Instagram photos were 202 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.879 they of? Like alcohol or at the club or whatever. 203 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:02.200 It wasn't the club. Yeah, they had pictures like well 204 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:03.080 off social media. 205 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:06.399 Yeah, they took them from my private Instagram. It was weird. 206 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:12.240 Oh, I'm so like, in my head, the religious school 207 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:14.360 leaders are going to be incompetent and not able to 208 00:09:14.360 --> 00:09:16.279 figure something like that out. But I guess these are 209 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:18.480 these are the ones we're serious about it. So you 210 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:19.639 got kicked out, and then what do you do? 211 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:23.279 I went back home to Waco for a year and 212 00:09:23.320 --> 00:09:24.759 got my real estate license. 213 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:26.200 How mad were your mom and dad? 214 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:31.440 Yeah? They were mad. They also were like, you're like 215 00:09:31.559 --> 00:09:34.639 thirty pounds heavier because you're like drinking and stuff. So 216 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:37.559 they put me on like a strict like military time. 217 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:40.559 Really, your parents are directly involved in your weight. 218 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:43.879 My mom, yeah, my dad whatever needs weight In the 219 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.679 first year card, I know, I'm like, yeah, she's like, 220 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.039 you're fucking fat. We gotta like get you lean again. 221 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:53.399 Oh my god, that was thank you mom. Now looking 222 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:54.919 back and like, yeah, it was large. 223 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:59.120 She's so triggered though, because she's just like, yeah, that's, like, 224 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:01.279 to Lena, the worst thing a mom could do. 225 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:01.679 Oh. 226 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.320 Yes, Like I mean you're like, I'm I'm almost twenty 227 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.559 years old, iman an adult. You can't have a fucking diet. 228 00:10:06.799 --> 00:10:07.559 Yeah, but you can. 229 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:08.440 You're going to live out. 230 00:10:08.480 --> 00:10:14.759 You can and you should. Yeah, But like what was 231 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:17.480 your parents' reaction? They were like really mad, Like was 232 00:10:17.519 --> 00:10:20.120 this something that they had been like happy about your 233 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.320 whole life leading up to this, this is what they wanted 234 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:22.960 for you. 235 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.879 No, they actually were really mad that I went to 236 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.480 college in New York City. They wanted me to stay 237 00:10:28.519 --> 00:10:32.480 in Texas, but they wanted to go to school still. Yeah, 238 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:34.799 they just wanted me to go closer to home, and 239 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:36.879 I was like no. You know, growing up in a 240 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:39.600 small town, I was like, fuck this shit, I gotta 241 00:10:39.600 --> 00:10:43.399 get out of here, the small minded people. I was 242 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:46.159 always like the black sheep of my family and high 243 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:50.200 school and stuff. So I was between Los Angeles and 244 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:52.799 New York City and just happened. Then I went to 245 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:53.480 the city and. 246 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:57.039 Wait, but so you do real estate for four years? 247 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.440 Was it just like the most boring thing ever? But like, 248 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:00.600 were you making okay money? 249 00:11:01.759 --> 00:11:05.039 I was for part of it at the start, like no, 250 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:09.159 because I was nineteen or twenty years old, you know, 251 00:11:09.279 --> 00:11:12.679 like buying a house is like most people's biggest purchases 252 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:17.639 of their life. Seen year old check with like you 253 00:11:17.639 --> 00:11:22.200 know that was like, you know it happens. 254 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.759 But were you like the hot girl realtor yeah, okay, 255 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:27.799 because I see a lot of that on Instagram that 256 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.799 like random hot chicks love to become realtors now and. 257 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:32.720 Then you're selling homes in Waco and you don't even 258 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:35.360 like Waco, so yeah, like, ye buy a house here 259 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:35.879 in the city. 260 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:37.480 I hate this terrible city. 261 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:39.440 Did you have a Texas accent that you had to 262 00:11:39.519 --> 00:11:40.840 unlearn at some point? 263 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:44.200 Not really, like I was always told that by my family, 264 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:49.440 like they have very like Hickey Texas Southern accents. I 265 00:11:49.519 --> 00:11:52.720 just hated it so much growing up that I just 266 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.559 started teaching myself to not have an accent. But it 267 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.759 does come out now when you're like that, I'm like, yeah, 268 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:01.200 argument or something. 269 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:04.919 No, that's really my New England accent. I like very 270 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.759 quickly realized, like, oh, this makes me sound like a 271 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.000 fucking white trash piece of shit. So like all the 272 00:12:11.039 --> 00:12:13.080 cool kids in New York, So I just kind of 273 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:16.879 did away with it, not not really intentionally. I was 274 00:12:16.919 --> 00:12:18.440 just trying to talk like all the cool black and 275 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.399 Hispanic kids I was hanging out with. So I guess 276 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:27.679 it just yeah, no, trying to talk like me what nothing. Okay, 277 00:12:27.759 --> 00:12:30.919 So you hate being a realtor essentially, and at some 278 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:33.240 point you say fuck it, I'm getting sex work. 279 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:37.960 Yeah, something like that was right around COVID. I got 280 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:41.240 laid off from my job because I had like actually 281 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:43.519 a salary position in real estate, but it was like 282 00:12:43.559 --> 00:12:47.279 a mass layoff whatever. I was already like modeling on 283 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:53.360 the side, like fun fashion bikini modeling, and I was like, hmm, 284 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:55.960 I wonder if I can make this work full time. 285 00:12:56.559 --> 00:13:00.200 So I gave myself like a six month period. Okay, 286 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:03.159 if I can book myself out make like a similar 287 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:05.240 amount of money, then this is the career that I'm 288 00:13:05.240 --> 00:13:08.320 going to do. So during that time, I did like glamour, 289 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:12.600 boudoir modeling, all like stuff. I booked myself through like 290 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:15.080 model Mayhem, you know those sites. 291 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:20.480 Very very spend a lot of Model Mayhem back in 292 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:20.919 the day. 293 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:27.039 Yeah, and six months goes by and it worked out 294 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:30.360 really well. At that point, I did start like an OnlyFans, 295 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.320 and I was a faceless creator because again I wasn't 296 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:35.360 sure if it was something that I wanted was going 297 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:38.080 to be able to do right. Six months later, I decided, 298 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:40.120 fuck it, I'm going to go all in. Started doing 299 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:43.799 some fetish modeling, did a lot of like damsel and 300 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:49.720 distress bondage modeling, which I learned to really hate. My 301 00:13:49.799 --> 00:13:53.679 body is like fuck that being like tied up and 302 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.360 like a it looks really something painful it is. There 303 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.759 are a lot of girls that love it, not me. 304 00:14:00.080 --> 00:14:01.720 I would stress me out when I see it. 305 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:04.120 Every time I said, I'm like, I'm trying to imagine 306 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.399 myself in a scenario where I'm just tied about hanging 307 00:14:06.440 --> 00:14:07.000 from something. 308 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.639 It puts me in a panic mentally. 309 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:11.320 No. 310 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:12.360 Yeah, some people love it. 311 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:14.559 They love the full submission of it, and I would 312 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:17.440 consider myself to be submissive. But I think the fear 313 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:20.480 of like passing out because it's tied too tight in 314 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:22.720 a random spot would just freak me out too much. 315 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.200 Yeah, it was starting to get to me. And I'm 316 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:28.159 not like somebody that normally has anxiety. But I'm like, Okay, 317 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:32.639 I'm all tied up and there's some random man that's 318 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:37.240 filming this for whatever clips site. So luckily I don't know. 319 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:40.720 I was probably doing that for another six months. Some 320 00:14:40.919 --> 00:14:46.240 female domination fetish producers reached out to me and was like, hey, 321 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:49.519 do you want to do femdom content? I was like, sure, 322 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:52.039 why not? I've never done this, don't even know what 323 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.639 it is. Show up to set. There's like three slaves, 324 00:14:56.679 --> 00:15:00.679 submissives whatever you want to call them there and they 325 00:15:00.679 --> 00:15:02.759 hand me a chastity cage and I was like, what 326 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:05.039 the fuck is this? Like, you're gonna put it on 327 00:15:05.080 --> 00:15:09.799 his dinghy and you're gonna like make fun of him. 328 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.399 You're gonna kick it and just be as man as 329 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:16.440 you possibly can, like throw in some like you know, 330 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.480 cock and ball torture, and I was like, oh, okay, sure, 331 00:15:21.000 --> 00:15:24.039 I'll give it a give it a go. Immediately, like 332 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:29.759 loved it. It was so fun humiliating and beating up men. 333 00:15:30.159 --> 00:15:32.279 So as soon as those like clips came out, like 334 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:34.559 a flood of new fans came in, was like, we 335 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:38.159 want to see you in this role and I liked it. 336 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:41.799 Anyway, before someone had presented the idea to you about 337 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:44.720 the chastity bell and the humiliation, would you have considered 338 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.559 yourself someone who would have thought that was fun, like 339 00:15:47.600 --> 00:15:50.720 it was it like a because you said you immediately 340 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:52.360 loved it, But do you think that you would have 341 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:53.200 liked it without knowing? 342 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:58.879 Yeah, you came a long way from Christian college. Yeah, yeah, no, because. 343 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:00.120 I always say I don't want to see him like that. 344 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:02.120 But I'm has it just been Has it just been 345 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:03.399 that I just haven't tried it? 346 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.480 I don't know. Yeah, I think that. Yeah, still like 347 00:16:07.960 --> 00:16:11.039 part of that traditional mindset was going through my hut. 348 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:13.919 I mean, hell, it still does these days. So I 349 00:16:13.960 --> 00:16:16.919 don't think I probably would have looked at it like, oh, 350 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:18.000 like that's fun. 351 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:19.840 But I don't know. 352 00:16:19.919 --> 00:16:23.879 I used to bully boys all the time and high 353 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:27.840 school and previous to that, so it always came naturally 354 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:31.120 to me. So it was just interesting that it panned 355 00:16:31.120 --> 00:16:33.080 out that way because it's never something that I would 356 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:38.120 have personally looked into and I no, no, you love it? Yeah, 357 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:42.360 full blown dominatrix. For the past two and a half years, 358 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:46.320 I've had a couple of dungeons and lots of fun. 359 00:16:47.399 --> 00:16:50.120 Were you horn it up before you got into porn? 360 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:51.679 Were you promiscuous? Oh? 361 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:55.759 Yeah, so I was a total raging slut. In college, 362 00:16:56.360 --> 00:16:59.679 I had like a list going. I lost my virginity 363 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.519 at eighteen, so it wasn't you know anything before that, 364 00:17:03.559 --> 00:17:07.200 I was all brand new. I think it was over 365 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.200 one hundred and fifty guys with the time my one 366 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:11.839 year in New York City was done. 367 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:16.880 In one year. That's three a week. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. 368 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:19.960 What kind of guys were you fucking? Just whoever? Or 369 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:22.079 was there like a type that you were into or. 370 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:27.640 At first it was just like random tender hookups with whoever's. 371 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:29.480 I guess once you throw tender in the Mexican late, 372 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:32.200 it's gotta be kind of very easy mechanical, you know. 373 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:36.079 Yeah, but I didn't like like the crowd there. They're 374 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.599 kind of like cheap and stingy fuckers. 375 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:42.759 So I want to Yeah, yeah. 376 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:45.400 If I'm gonna like go out and have fun and 377 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.279 you know, fuck around, you might as well take me 378 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:52.279 out to a nice dinner and whatever. Before so then 379 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:57.599 it went from like young hoomevers to like older successful men, 380 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:04.039 which has always been my thing since then. Yeah, like 381 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:11.839 I think older. I think arguably no, I was like 382 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:13.079 fucking like seventy. 383 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:15.359 Year olds And how was that? 384 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:18.599 It's kind of interesting. Is it fun? It was like 385 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.480 drunk half the time, so it was all like fun 386 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.720 to me. But it's crazy, Like from what I can remember, 387 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:32.559 their suck strivees were like more intense than just twenty 388 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:34.680 year olds and porn that I shoot with because it's 389 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:35.640 quite rare for them. 390 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:38.119 Yeah, and the twenty year old is like just raw 391 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:41.079 dog and the seven year old's probably got some viagra 392 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:41.799 in this system. 393 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.680 You know, definitely have like more swagger. You know, seventy 394 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:47.680 years and you better. 395 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.279 But but like in your head, like it is sucking 396 00:18:51.279 --> 00:18:53.240 a seven year old dick and a twenty one year 397 00:18:53.279 --> 00:18:57.680 old dick like dramatically different, are they? Kind of either way, 398 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:00.599 it's a dick, yeah. 399 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:03.559 Once you know a little bit more wrinkly, lived in, 400 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:09.160 lived in not making it sound to you guys, no, 401 00:19:09.480 --> 00:19:12.640