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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes, Dan ray I'm doing you Beazy Boston's

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Madison. And when the Red Sox

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<v Speaker 2>play in Seattle tonight, Raffi Devers will be playing in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco against the Cleveland Guardians. Never thought i'd see

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<v Speaker 2>that day, that's for sure. Well we'll see that tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan ram the host of Night's Side,

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<v Speaker 2>a baseball fan too, by the way, talk show host

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<v Speaker 2>in real life, been a baseball fan, and I follow

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<v Speaker 2>that pretty closely. We talked about Raffie Devers last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Tonight we will be talking in all probability a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that the Karen Reed jury has come

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<v Speaker 2>back now with four questions. They have finished a second

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<v Speaker 2>full day of jury deliberations without a verdict, but some

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<v Speaker 2>are suggesting that those questions in the way in which

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<v Speaker 2>they were asked might suggest that the jury is close

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<v Speaker 2>to a verdict that might come down tomorrow. We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how that all works out. But tonight we will talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you about the trial trial number two, beginning at

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<v Speaker 2>nine o'clock this hour. We have four very interesting guests. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>my name is Dan Rayam the host of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Brooks, is back in the control room, back at

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<v Speaker 2>the big Socket in downtown Medford, well not downtown Medford,

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<v Speaker 2>it's part of Medford, Massachusetts, kind of an undisclosed location.

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<v Speaker 2>We really shouldn't tell you where it is, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm obviously broadcasting from a bunker somewhere. So we

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<v Speaker 2>will now get to the more serious topics of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>and one that is serious here in Massachusetts. We're very

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<v Speaker 2>successful state, or a state that has great hospitals, great universities.

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<v Speaker 2>We're considered to be a state that has a high

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<v Speaker 2>value and high cost of living, but a good living lifestyle.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet yet for the second year in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>nearly two million adults in Massachusetts. That's a lot of people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they cannot afford enough to eat or worry about the

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<v Speaker 2>sos of their next meal. According to a statewide study

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<v Speaker 2>by the Greater Boston Food Bank with US as Captain Tomato,

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<v Speaker 2>she is the Greater Boston Food Banks CEO and President, Catherine.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Night's side. How do you have There's only

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<v Speaker 2>six point seven million people in Massachusetts, so boy, this

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<v Speaker 2>does work out to about one out of every three

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<v Speaker 2>adults are having problems with food insecurity it does.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, thanks for having me and at least,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, spending some time on this subject. There's so

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<v Speaker 3>many things, and as you pointed out, it's a great state, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've always had a very strong economy, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, on the other side, we've always had a

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<v Speaker 3>very high cost of living and that's part of what

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<v Speaker 3>people are facing right now with increased inflation, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>cost and groceries, cost of housing, so many things and

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<v Speaker 3>such uncertainty you know that folks are facing.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I have a job?

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<v Speaker 3>Do I not have a job? You know, it's my

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<v Speaker 3>company going to be sold, is it not. There's just

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<v Speaker 3>so much uncertainty and volatility, and that puts folks in

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<v Speaker 3>a situation where they have to make a lot of trades. Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, take their food money for something. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it might be daycare, might be education, might be housing,

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<v Speaker 3>could be your rent, it could be you know, your

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<v Speaker 3>food money is kind of flexible because we have a

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<v Speaker 3>very strong pantry system in our commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a great pantry system and I'll call them

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<v Speaker 2>common Wealth and you folks are really the top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Greater Boston Food Bank. I was at a fundraiser

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<v Speaker 2>that we support on the Cape the Cape called Family Food.

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<v Speaker 3>The Family Pantry Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Family Pantry in Harwich, and so we do that fundraiser

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<v Speaker 2>every year. Here's my question. There will be some people

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<v Speaker 2>who's skeptical tonight, and I got to be honest, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little skeptical too, and that we're in a state

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<v Speaker 2>that there's the unemployment rate is right around with a

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<v Speaker 2>national averages. We tend to be a little bit below that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we're an expensive state, but food prices and

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I shop at the grocery store probably

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<v Speaker 2>three to four times a week from my family, and

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<v Speaker 2>I watch prices really carefully. They've been fairly stable, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>after the scare that was thrown at us with the

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<v Speaker 2>tariff conversation earlier this year. Egg prices have dropped a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. I haven't seen huge jumps. Oh, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>it in some of the like Pepbridge Farm cookies. They

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<v Speaker 2>haven't come down, but I'm not buying those babies. I

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<v Speaker 2>love Pepperidge Farm cookies, but I'll stick with my Nobisco

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<v Speaker 2>oreos to to save by my diet because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna spey four bucks for you know, a dozen cookies.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather buy the family pack. So so how do

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<v Speaker 2>we define this? I mean that we have the food

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<v Speaker 2>programs in this state. We've just gone through a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of billion dollar with people who are here, who we

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<v Speaker 2>have housed and fed. Why do we not have enough

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<v Speaker 2>money for people in that we've just passed the millionaires tax,

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<v Speaker 2>which supposedly grew generated much more money than anyone would

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<v Speaker 2>have expected. I would think we're fairly high clover here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is, this is disgraceful that people in

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<v Speaker 2>our state go to beout hungry at I particularly kids.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you've asked about one hundred great questions, which I

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<v Speaker 3>love about you because you are you think, you think,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're thinking out loud, and you share with your audience.

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<v Speaker 3>You know the concerns of so many people. Right, so

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<v Speaker 3>why you know what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, the state doesn't pay for the food

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<v Speaker 3>all the food programs, so there's a lot of philanthropy

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<v Speaker 3>that covers, you know, the net in our state. And yes,

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<v Speaker 3>there are great food programs. Many of those are federal

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<v Speaker 3>that are in great danger due to the reductions that

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<v Speaker 3>are occurring. And we'll know more about that once the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate side of our Congress finishes their budget process, and

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<v Speaker 3>then that will put the state in the situation where

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to have to decide, right, do we make

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<v Speaker 3>up those differences?

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<v Speaker 5>Do not?

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<v Speaker 3>Do we do some? Do we do none? But in

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<v Speaker 3>our state we have as you noted, Harwich is one

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<v Speaker 3>of our best partners down on the Cape, and Great

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<v Speaker 3>Boston Food Bank has been partnering with them for forty years.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a great partnership. But people find themselves in

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<v Speaker 3>need the food.

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<v Speaker 5>For lots of reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always economical. And I'm going to challenge you on

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<v Speaker 3>your pricing question because I'm going to go shopping with

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<v Speaker 3>you someday and I'm going to send you some more data.

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<v Speaker 3>So food prices are the greatest inflation include ever in

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<v Speaker 3>the last forty years due to COVID. Now, while it

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<v Speaker 3>went way up, you are correct, it did come down

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<v Speaker 3>in many categories and exists is a great one. It

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<v Speaker 3>was up, and it was up and up and up,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it's starting to come down and we're seeing

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<v Speaker 3>some relief there, but it's still more then it was

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<v Speaker 3>before COVID. So while a double digit inflationary pricing might

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<v Speaker 3>have occurred, we're down to singles. But it's still five,

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<v Speaker 3>six or seven percent more than it was, so families

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<v Speaker 3>have to stretch those dollars all over the place. And

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<v Speaker 3>housing is also one of the major issues. But families,

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<v Speaker 3>it's always it's always economical, and it's always political. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what we're seeing now, and it doesn't matter to me

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<v Speaker 3>what side of the aisle you are. Every administration makes

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<v Speaker 3>changes every administration, and some of them are focused on

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<v Speaker 3>certain things and some are focused on other things. Right now,

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<v Speaker 3>this budget reconciliation is very focused on finding trillions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars in debt, you know, in reduction, and that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to impact more proportionately poor people than not in our

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<v Speaker 3>country should it all pass, So that's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>much more challenging for people to make ends meet. And

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<v Speaker 3>then it always is very personal. Could be a death,

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<v Speaker 3>could be an illness. It could be a parent you

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<v Speaker 3>have to take care of. It could be a loss

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<v Speaker 3>of a job. It could be an emergency, it could

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<v Speaker 3>be a fire, it could be numbers of things. Then

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<v Speaker 3>that puts you in a situation where you need some help,

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<v Speaker 3>and that we put out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what I'm trying to say, I want to give

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<v Speaker 2>you credit. I want to give the Greater Boston Food Rank.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give them the cap cause family food

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<v Speaker 2>Pantry credit. And there's there's there's hundreds of organizations and charities.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got to tell you, anytime you want, Catherine,

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<v Speaker 2>come with me. I will take you shopping to market

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom Okay, and I.

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<v Speaker 5>Will show you you're a market basket guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. See that's that's an important distinction. Their prices are.

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<v Speaker 2>The best, well though they are. But guess what I

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<v Speaker 2>will drive about ten miles to go to a market bank.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what. I know that I will save on

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<v Speaker 2>twenty items a multiple of two, three or four dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the end of the day, what would what

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<v Speaker 2>would cost me one hundred and twenty dollars will cost

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<v Speaker 2>me a market basket maybe seventy five or eighty, which

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<v Speaker 2>more than justifies my time and more than justifies my guess.

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<v Speaker 3>But the fact that a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>folks are still very much the same way you do

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<v Speaker 3>about this oho.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what, I won't buy the expensive stuff, like

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<v Speaker 2>when I want to buy ice cream, it better be

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<v Speaker 2>two for seven dollars. I'm not paid for ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm serious when I tell you that doesn't anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>But what you're highlighting, Dan, is that not in a

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<v Speaker 3>humorous way or in the way because you could buy

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<v Speaker 3>what you want. Right You're in a position where you

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<v Speaker 3>and I can go to the grocery store. You can

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<v Speaker 3>buy the four forty nine item, but you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>Going to win. I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 3>People just don't have the money at all at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why we support That's why we got to support

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<v Speaker 2>food Pansy. That's why we need to support Greater Boston

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<v Speaker 2>Food Bank, which again is the hub of the food

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<v Speaker 2>bay system here in Massachusetts. How can folks get in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with the Greater Boston Food Bank. We're running out

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<v Speaker 2>of time. This is fun, but in the market basket

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<v Speaker 2>any day.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm going to go shopping with you, Dan. So look,

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<v Speaker 3>people want to help, they can do a number of things.

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<v Speaker 3>One is they can get financial support at GBFB dot org.

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<v Speaker 3>They can also get and be supportive of the pantries

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<v Speaker 3>in their communities. Some people very much want to be

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<v Speaker 3>much more localized. Right, we have over six hundred programs

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<v Speaker 3>in eastern Massachusetts that benefit from the work of the

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<v Speaker 3>Greater Boston Food Bank, And I believe me there's one

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<v Speaker 3>in your community of your listeners, and all over the country.

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<v Speaker 3>We have over sixty thousand organizations that take food from

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<v Speaker 3>the from our system. And you can volunteer, you can

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<v Speaker 3>get involved, you can make a difference, you can show up,

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<v Speaker 3>you can look. I also believe it's really important to vote.

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<v Speaker 3>Vote for what you believe in. Get registered and vote.

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<v Speaker 3>It's another action step. And lastly, call your state rep.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever you believe, call and tell them what you think,

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<v Speaker 3>or your state senator or the delegation. That's another way

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<v Speaker 3>you can act as an individual in Massachusetts to cosnive

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<v Speaker 3>that change for those who need help.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things we try to do here

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside. I often say, Kathy, I don't care what

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking. I just want you to be thinking. And

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<v Speaker 3>And I have the honor of getting an honorary doctorate

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we work together with the Shadow Fund, which provides

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<v Speaker 2>veterinary care for people who cannot afford to take care

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<v Speaker 2>will be canonized as a saint.

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<v Speaker 3>And she she's.

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<v Speaker 5>So you are.

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<v Speaker 3>And I appreciate that you're sharing a little bit about

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<v Speaker 3>Dan help.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong with that absolutely. I did the commencement speech from

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<v Speaker 2>the Shadow Fund. Every penny that we raise, every penny,

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<v Speaker 2>glad that you mentioned Diane's name. She's the best she's

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<v Speaker 3>And Katherin you're pretty great too.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what it takes all of us to push

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<v Speaker 2>That one absolutely all right, all dogs, all cats, all

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get back to our conversation here, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what we call the nightside news update with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Melanie Gilbert. Melanie, you with us a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>months ago, and we were talking about a dilemma that

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<v Speaker 2>some of the pubs in Lowell were challenged on whether

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<v Speaker 2>someone under the age of eighteen could go in. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not eligible to drink or buy alcoholic beverages, but could

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<v Speaker 2>they go in there and you know, have a bowl

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<v Speaker 5>And thanks for having me back then, it's always a

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<v Speaker 5>pleasure to be on your show radio first time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>oh you know here it is just put in a

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<v Speaker 5>nutshell for your listeners. This is like the age old

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<v Speaker 5>problem of underage drinking, right, is that Loll is saying.

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<v Speaker 5>And it was kind of a loophole, and even the

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<v Speaker 5>License Commission acknowledged that they've been operating under this sort

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<v Speaker 5>of a benevolent or benign theory that if you went

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<v Speaker 5>into a bar, you had to be of age. And

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<v Speaker 5>we're not just talking about people who are scamming the system,

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<v Speaker 5>that you had to be of age to be in

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<v Speaker 5>the bar. And this loophole has sort of proven the wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>So let me back up and just say that back

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<v Speaker 5>on March early March, I think it was March first, actually,

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<v Speaker 5>the Lowell Police Department conduct did alcohol compliance checks on

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<v Speaker 5>the Blue Shamrock in Loll and they found two underage well,

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<v Speaker 5>they found two females standing by the bar who appeared

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<v Speaker 5>to be under twenty one, and you know you have

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<v Speaker 5>to be twenty one to drink in Massachusetts. So they

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<v Speaker 5>asked them for ID and the two women presented ID

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<v Speaker 5>that was fraudulent, which was they're already in trouble and

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<v Speaker 5>based on the testimony of the officer, it appeared that

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<v Speaker 5>they were admitted to the premises but were not served alcohol.

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<v Speaker 5>And here's the loophole. Turns out that under Lull's Ordnance

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<v Speaker 5>City Ordinance that you can be under age in a

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<v Speaker 5>bar because we don't really have bars, we have restaurants

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<v Speaker 5>that serve alcohol. So it'd be like you right, be

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<v Speaker 5>like you're walking into the ninety nine. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a problem. So you walk into a bar

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<v Speaker 5>and you don't have to drink if you just exactly

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<v Speaker 5>as you preface, as long as you just order something.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not sure if that includes a bag of

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<v Speaker 5>popcorn or a bag of chips, but if you order

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<v Speaker 5>something from the kitchen, you are allowed to be in

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<v Speaker 5>that bar as even if you're not of age. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think where the two women kind of messed up

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<v Speaker 5>until this law was challenged is that technically right now.

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<v Speaker 5>And the police department issued a memo Superintendent Houdon, who said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know this is a it's actually I'm going to

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<v Speaker 5>look at it here we Superintendent Hoodon wishes to express

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<v Speaker 5>his serious concerns regarding the technicality identified by the law departments.

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<v Speaker 5>His technicality has the potential to be exploited not only

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<v Speaker 5>by the underage individuals, but also by certain establishments attempting

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<v Speaker 5>to circumvent the law by falsely presenting themselves as pubs

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<v Speaker 5>or restaurants. So, you know, it was all sort of

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<v Speaker 5>a corker, you know, is that these the license commissions

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<v Speaker 5>hands are tied because the Blue Shamrock, and I think

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<v Speaker 5>it was the Village Smallhost was also cited that night

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<v Speaker 5>with a compliance check and underage teat.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is this, what's the difference between any restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>I can think of all these restaurants you go to

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<v Speaker 2>Legal Seafoods. You mentioned ninety nine restaurant, you have families

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<v Speaker 2>in there, you have kids with their parents. Was it

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that these under so called underage girls were

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<v Speaker 2>not escorted by their parents if their parents had been there,

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<v Speaker 2>they were having a graduation evening celebration. It sounds to

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<v Speaker 2>me like, you know, if they go in and they're

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<v Speaker 2>under twenty one and they've served alcohol when they got

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<v Speaker 2>a problem with the license, I think the decision was

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, technicality exactly is that if you're under

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<v Speaker 5>twenty one and you go into a establishment serving liquor

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<v Speaker 5>in lull. You don't need you don't need to take

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<v Speaker 5>sick ID is really what it comes down to. If

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<v Speaker 5>you order from the kitchen, you're allowed to be in

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<v Speaker 5>that establishment.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, You kind of order from the kitchen and then

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<v Speaker 2>order a glass of wine, but you can't order liquor.

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<v Speaker 5>But you can order from the kitchen, and you can

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<v Speaker 5>be in a bar with other you know, people who

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<v Speaker 5>are where it's really.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a bar.

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<v Speaker 5>You know it's got when you when you go to

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<v Speaker 5>the Blue Shamrock, it has pool tables and it has

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<v Speaker 5>a jukebox, and it has a bar. But you're right

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<v Speaker 5>when you look at bars, typically, the way I think

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<v Speaker 5>of bars is so those are the places that don't

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<v Speaker 5>close until like one or two o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>But Applebee's Legal Seafood they all close around maybe eleven,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe twelve o'clock at night because restaurants, they're not barsa

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna go ahead and close up and because they've

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<v Speaker 5>got all that prep work to do. But bars are different. So,

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<v Speaker 5>as the tweet chief pointed out, is that you technically

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<v Speaker 5>could have seventeen year olds in a bar or a

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<v Speaker 5>pub in roll at the bar not drinking, but surrounded

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<v Speaker 5>by adults who are drinking or other teenagers, I suppose,

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<v Speaker 5>and as long as they ordered food, so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a you know, as a law currently stands, there's

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<v Speaker 5>nothing preventing high school students from entering a bar late

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<v Speaker 5>at night where college students of legal age drinking age

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<v Speaker 5>are also present. Is basically how he closed out his memoran,

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<v Speaker 5>and he felt that that created a risk of underage

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<v Speaker 5>individuals being exposed to alcohol and unsafe in bar because typically,

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're right, most people are. You know, you

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<v Speaker 5>take your kids into the you know, the ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 5>and you get a drink, but you're there with them,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, it's not like a pub scene, and

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<v Speaker 5>it's kind of like, you know, the Captain Peasley, who

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<v Speaker 5>was who represents the police department before the license commission said,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, if it walks like a duck and it

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<v Speaker 5>talks like a duck, and it's a dog, except you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when it's not a duck, and this technicality sort of

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<v Speaker 5>makes it a turkey or what do you call it

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes might be exactly, so you know, it's it kind

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<v Speaker 5>of raised interesting legal issues because the bar fought back

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<v Speaker 5>and they said, wait a minute, we don't have you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I think when mister Petrakis applied for his license thirty

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<v Speaker 5>years ago, the Commission granted it and they classified him

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<v Speaker 5>as a restaurant, and that was his defense before the commission.

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<v Speaker 5>They didn't have alcohol, they weren't served alcohol. There were

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<v Speaker 5>no drinks in front of these two seventeen year olds

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<v Speaker 5>who were from Westford, so they weren't Lott residence. So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not in violation of the statute. I'm not in

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<v Speaker 5>violation of the Ordnance and lull. They came in for

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<v Speaker 5>the food. I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the food is probably great, and maybe the company

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<v Speaker 2>of the drunks at the bar is great too, but

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't drinking. Melanie, thank you so much. I really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed it, and we need to get another hot story

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<v Speaker 2>up and well keep us bend.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's better than governed fires and city council meetings, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, all right, well listen to have a great night,

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<v Speaker 5>and thank you for having me on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for joining us. Melanie Gilbert of The Low Sun,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Sullivan's favorite newspaper, that's for sure, The late great

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right back at you. So you have a one

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<v Speaker 2>dollar food that can help fight both diabetes and heart disease.

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<v Speaker 2>I am all ears, doctor Fara, trust me on that.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we talking about? Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, you're absolutely right. There's a study that shows that

426
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<v Speaker 6>chickpeas and black beans are great for heart health and

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<v Speaker 6>I couldn't agree more. It's a plant based protein source

428
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<v Speaker 6>and so it has great benefits to the heart and

429
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<v Speaker 6>the study specifically showed that it decreased levels of cholesterol,

430
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<v Speaker 6>which is a major respect for heart disease, as well

431
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<v Speaker 6>as it reduced inflammation, which is another big reason why

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<v Speaker 6>we get heart disease. So it's a great source of protein.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I don't want to sound like a total knucklehead here,

434
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<v Speaker 2>but easy, easy to buy at a store, I assume,

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<v Speaker 2>easy to prepare this is This is economical as well

436
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<v Speaker 2>as pretty.

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<v Speaker 6>Convenient one hundred percent. Yes, it's very easy to find

438
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<v Speaker 6>and you can find them at any grocery store. It's

439
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<v Speaker 6>very economical. It's one of the cheapest things as far

440
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<v Speaker 6>as food products go. And you know, one of the

441
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<v Speaker 6>things that you mentioned is that any source of beings

442
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<v Speaker 6>like you know, black bean and chickpea specifically, is what

443
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<v Speaker 6>it looks looked at by any source. I mean, like

444
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<v Speaker 6>canned beans, for example, would be okay, But the thing

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<v Speaker 6>to pay attention to it'd be well, how it has

446
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<v Speaker 6>been stored, because typically stored products tend to have you know,

447
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<v Speaker 6>quite a bit of other agents like preservatives and sodium

448
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<v Speaker 6>and whatnot. So you really, if you're buying canned products,

449
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<v Speaker 6>you really do need to be able to wash those

450
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<v Speaker 6>thoroughly and get all that by product out of it

451
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<v Speaker 6>and then use it and then it's still considered fairly

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<v Speaker 6>safe and healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So if they're not in cans, which you which

454
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<v Speaker 2>you don't advise, are they available in the vegetable department.

455
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<v Speaker 2>They are.

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<v Speaker 6>Majority of the grocery stores will have them. And you know,

457
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<v Speaker 6>even online now a lot of groceries are available through

458
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<v Speaker 6>online sources like Amazon, for example, they're fairly cheap affordable

459
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<v Speaker 6>and beings. Generally speaking, it is considered one of the

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<v Speaker 6>cheaper options that you can buy one dollar worth of

461
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<v Speaker 6>beans that it can go long waves. So you know,

462
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<v Speaker 6>I think this is a great option for majority of

463
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<v Speaker 6>the people just because of how affordable it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what about palettes. Can these food products be

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<v Speaker 2>prepared in a way that keeps them safe and and

466
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<v Speaker 2>helpful to our heart and to fight diabetes? But also

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<v Speaker 2>uh can can also be mixed with other products what

468
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<v Speaker 2>you know, that will make them appetizing.

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<v Speaker 6>Certainly, beans can be prepared in many different ways. It's

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<v Speaker 6>one of the most versatile products. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>a big foodie and I travel a lot, and I

472
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<v Speaker 6>just love enjoying different cuisines from different cultures and from

473
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<v Speaker 6>across the world of all, you know, my own background considered,

474
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<v Speaker 6>all cuisines have beans, and it can be prepared so

475
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<v Speaker 6>in a many many different ways. You can prepare it

476
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<v Speaker 6>and curry. You can make it with other things, other

477
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<v Speaker 6>types of vegetables. You know, you can use different types

478
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<v Speaker 6>of spices. You can make it in so many different ways.

479
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<v Speaker 5>You can make.

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<v Speaker 6>Stew out of it, you can make it, you can

481
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<v Speaker 6>use it as a replacement product for meat for chili

482
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<v Speaker 6>and such. So the use is very versatile, and it

483
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<v Speaker 6>really is a good replacement for red meat.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Now, are any of the companies that manufacture and sell

485
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<v Speaker 2>these Are any of them thinking about doing some sort

486
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<v Speaker 2>of a marketing campaign, Because I got to be honest

487
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<v Speaker 2>with you, when I read this article, I thought, gee,

488
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that. I mean, I know that I

489
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<v Speaker 2>know generally the foods that are bad for you, those

490
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<v Speaker 2>are the foods that I like. If it tastes good,

491
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<v Speaker 2>ice cream.

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<v Speaker 6>Bad, I hope they do. Actually, I hope they do

493
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<v Speaker 6>better marketing than it becomes more well known. And you know,

494
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<v Speaker 6>it's such an undervalued source of food that's so nutritious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it could become much more of a staple of

496
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<v Speaker 2>our diet. Obviously, there's lots of things that all of

497
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<v Speaker 2>us eat that are unhealthy. But when I think, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>ten years ago, I didn't know anybody who would ever

499
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<v Speaker 2>eat avocados. It just wasn't it wasn't. Addition, now you

500
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<v Speaker 2>go to any restaurant and people are ordering avocado toast

501
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<v Speaker 2>or avocado on the side. Somehow someone figured out how

502
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<v Speaker 2>to market avocados. Now, maybe it was because Tom Brady

503
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<v Speaker 2>was eating avocados and he was winning football games. But

504
00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:05.559
<v Speaker 2>there has to be a way to, uh to get

505
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<v Speaker 2>this this food product into the food stream.

506
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<v Speaker 6>I guess Oh, I totally totally agree with you. There

507
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<v Speaker 6>are just so many different ways beans just cooked properly

508
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<v Speaker 6>could be delicious, and I just I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>I think more people need to advertise for us. Hopefully

510
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<v Speaker 6>the companies do. The bean company.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, And I know, and I know there's a

512
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<v Speaker 2>lot of companies that that that sell beans in cans

513
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<v Speaker 2>and all of that, but maybe they should they should

514
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<v Speaker 2>market them other ways as well, because look, if if

515
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<v Speaker 2>it's tasty and it's also good for you, who, I

516
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<v Speaker 2>don't know many products like It just seems to me

517
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<v Speaker 2>that when I eat something that's that tastes good, I

518
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<v Speaker 2>know it's got too much salt, it's got too much sugar,

519
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<v Speaker 2>it's and it's chocolate. The one thing, though, doctor, that

520
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<v Speaker 2>I eat every day that I believe is good for

521
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<v Speaker 2>my heart. I was told by my cardiologist dark chocolate.

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<v Speaker 6>Dark chocolate. I agree, dark chocolate is very good for

523
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<v Speaker 6>you and your heart. The only thing to pay attention to,

524
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<v Speaker 6>of course, most of the time, our source of dark

525
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<v Speaker 6>chocolate is candy and with that, the problem is sugar

526
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:17.519
<v Speaker 6>and the additives that are in it. But dark chocolate

527
00:28:17.559 --> 00:28:18.839
<v Speaker 6>itself is very good for you.

528
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<v Speaker 2>So how do you get pure dark chocolate? Then help

529
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<v Speaker 2>me out here because I'm buying her. She's dark chocolate.

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<v Speaker 6>That is a that's a tough thing, you know. I

531
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<v Speaker 6>myself don't know a good source of dark chocolate, but

532
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<v Speaker 6>of all the other chocolate products, dark chocolate would be.

533
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<v Speaker 5>The way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll save that for our next visit. How's that? Okay?

535
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<v Speaker 3>Sounds great?

536
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<v Speaker 2>Really enjoyed it, Doctor fami Fara, she's a cardiologist and

537
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<v Speaker 2>board sort of eyes certified invasive cardiologist. Uh and by

538
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<v Speaker 2>the way, is there any sort of a website that

539
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<v Speaker 2>that you'd like to publicize or certainly.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, my website is doctor Fammi fair www dot doctor

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<v Speaker 6>fommifara dot com. Also you can find me on social

542
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<v Speaker 6>media on AX and Instagram at fammy Jfarah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds great and fammy is spelled fa h m i

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<v Speaker 2>pharah fa r ah. Doctor farre We've got it. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much. We'll talk soon.

546
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, thank you for having me.

547
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<v Speaker 6>It was my pleasure.

548
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you right back at you. When we get back,

549
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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking a little nineteenth century baseball. Uh yeah, eighteen

550
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:32.079
<v Speaker 2>hundreds baseball alive and well in Newbury, Massachusetts, playing with

551
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 2>New England vintage eighteen sixty four rules and they play

552
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:39.880
<v Speaker 2>competitive live games. We're going to talk with Brian Shees,

553
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<v Speaker 2>the president of the Essex Baseball Organization, right after this break.

554
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<v Speaker 1>Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think everyone who listens to night Side knows

556
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<v Speaker 2>that I'm a baseball fan. With us. Now is Brian

557
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<v Speaker 2>she He's the president of the Essex Baseball Organization. They

558
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<v Speaker 2>played nineteenth century baseball. Hey, Brian she how are you

559
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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Nightside?

560
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<v Speaker 4>Hey? How's it going sot out here?

561
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<v Speaker 2>How did you get into nineteenth century baseball? I understand

562
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<v Speaker 2>the rules are quite different, we get to those in

563
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<v Speaker 2>a moment. But how did you find this or how

564
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<v Speaker 2>did this find you?

565
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<v Speaker 4>A long long time ago, back when I was in college,

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<v Speaker 4>about twenty three twenty four years ago, I was working

567
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<v Speaker 4>at the library at Merrimack College, and the reference librarian

568
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<v Speaker 4>there said, Hey, my boyfriend started a team in Danvers.

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<v Speaker 4>They played eighteen sixties baseball. You like baseball? You're a

570
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<v Speaker 4>history major, why don't you go check it out? So

571
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<v Speaker 4>I did, and it's been a slippery slope down whatever

572
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<v Speaker 4>since for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you guys operate up there in Essex, or

574
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<v Speaker 2>rather in Newbury excuse me, Newbury, Massachusetts. How many teams

575
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<v Speaker 2>do you have and do you play teams from other

576
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<v Speaker 2>communities or is it all done within the confines of Newbury.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we first started playing twenty plus years ago,

578
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<v Speaker 4>we were traveling all over New England, going to Connecticut,

579
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<v Speaker 4>Rhode Island, like New York. Were were kind of traveling around.

580
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<v Speaker 4>But as we got older, started having families, we kind

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<v Speaker 4>of settled on Spencer Pierce Little Farm in Newbery and

582
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<v Speaker 4>we have four teams based out of Spencer Pierce Little Farm.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's a beautiful venue. We have ipswich Ail as

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<v Speaker 4>one of our sponsors. In the fall, there's corn in

585
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<v Speaker 4>the outfield, so it's kind of like a field of

586
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:38.720
<v Speaker 4>dreams vibe. We get a couple We get a couple

587
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:41.400
<v Speaker 4>hundred fans at just about every one of our games,

588
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 4>all the way up to like maybe a thousand some

589
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 4>of the bigger events that we have.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, So the dimensions of the diamond. Are they

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<v Speaker 2>the same? Ninety feet to the basis, sixty feet to

592
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<v Speaker 2>the mountains sixty feet six inches.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great question. Ninety feet for bases, the pitching

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<v Speaker 4>distance is forty five feet away. And the picture in

595
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 4>eighteen sixty four. The rules that we play by throws underhands,

596
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 4>fielders don't wear gloves and things like that. But I

597
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:12.519
<v Speaker 4>don't want to skip ahead to all the rules unless

598
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<v Speaker 4>you want going to jump into that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, that's fine. So it's it's the game as

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<v Speaker 2>it was played in eighteen sixty four. I know the

601
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<v Speaker 2>legend is that baseball was founded by Abne Doubleday, a

602
00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Civil War general. Is this the game that, as you understand,

603
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<v Speaker 2>that he developed.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, when I teach my class on like on this,

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<v Speaker 4>we talk about the double Day myth, which is what

606
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<v Speaker 4>it is. It's a myth like baseball. And I do

607
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<v Speaker 4>teach a whole course on the evolution of bat ball

608
00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 4>games and sports in general. But base like baseball, taking

609
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.880
<v Speaker 4>a ball, hitting it with a bat or your hand,

610
00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 4>it was all the way back. Human beings have been

611
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<v Speaker 4>playing bat ball games forever. There's actually a hieroglyphic or

612
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<v Speaker 4>high highlow glyph on a in the Pyramids of a

613
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.279
<v Speaker 4>pharaoh holding a read and a ball in this game

614
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<v Speaker 4>called seeker hamat like batting the ball. So batting and

615
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 4>batting games have been around forever. If you kind of

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<v Speaker 4>look at the the rules of baseball that we know today,

617
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<v Speaker 4>they probably date to about eighteen forty five. Diamond, shakefield, fair, fair, foul, territory,

618
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<v Speaker 4>et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I also love the idea where you go to

620
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<v Speaker 2>a ballgame and even you know whether it's a little

621
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<v Speaker 2>league game or which, of course the dementia is a

622
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 2>little different or a major league game. So many ground

623
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<v Speaker 2>balls to third basement and shortstop the guy gets thrown

624
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<v Speaker 2>out by just one step. So if the bases were

625
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>eighty five feet would be very different, different game. So

626
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<v Speaker 2>how many games does do your teams play every year?

627
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Is it all weekend games from June to September? Or

628
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<v Speaker 2>just give us the schedule? How can people get more

629
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<v Speaker 2>information if they want to come up and witness one

630
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<v Speaker 2>of these one of these sporting events.

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<v Speaker 4>We played just about every weekend from the first weekend

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<v Speaker 4>of June all the way till the beginning of October,

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<v Speaker 4>typically on Sundays at Spencer Piast Little Farm We're on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>Our website isn't really up to date rightly right now,

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<v Speaker 4>but we are on Facebook, Instagram. Essex Baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, do you different teams have uniforms or is it

637
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<v Speaker 2>sort of a uniform that everybody wears.

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00:34:33.039 --> 00:34:35.840
<v Speaker 4>All four of our teams have different uniforms. All four

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00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:39.039
<v Speaker 4>of our teams that play there are modeled after teams

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00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.840
<v Speaker 4>that played in the nineteenth century. So we have the

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<v Speaker 4>Lowell Baseball Club, which was a team that played in

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00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 4>the eighteen sixties based out of Boston. They were named

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<v Speaker 4>after John A. Lowell, who was who helped fund them.

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<v Speaker 4>We have the Lynn Live Oaks, which was a team

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<v Speaker 4>that played in the eighteen seventies in Lynn. We have

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<v Speaker 4>the Portsmouth Rocky Hymns, which was a team that played

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<v Speaker 4>in ports with New Hampshire in the eighteen sixties. And

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<v Speaker 4>we have the newberry Port clam Diggers, which is based

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<v Speaker 4>on a team that played in newbury Port in the

650
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<v Speaker 4>eighteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's that's great. The ball that you that you play,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, is of it's not a softball, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably softer than a.

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<v Speaker 4>Softball, right, It's definitely softer because in eighteen sixty four

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<v Speaker 4>nobody wore was wearing gloves yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So they Wilson eight two thousand have not been invented,

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<v Speaker 2>so there was no need of it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, but I mean the ball is a little softer.

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00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 4>We still have some guys who who break fingers. My

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00:35:39.480 --> 00:35:42.760
<v Speaker 4>fingers a little jammed from our games this past weekend

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<v Speaker 4>and swollen.

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00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 2>They can have it in basketball too. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>guys hit a ball, if somebody really gets a hold

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<v Speaker 2>of it, it's not going five hundred feet. I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that what is considered a home run distance or was

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00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:57.039
<v Speaker 2>there a home run if it, you know, makes it

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<v Speaker 2>to the cornfield or what's what's the rules?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's some where we play is kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>So you could hit a ball, I'd say the right

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<v Speaker 4>field if the corn is up and it's it's late September.

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<v Speaker 4>If you hit a ball two hundred and fifty feet,

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<v Speaker 4>you're probably in the corn shot. It's a decent shot.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a decent shot. That's that's only fifty two feet

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<v Speaker 2>short of the piskey.

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<v Speaker 4>Poll are like, our guys probably hit the ball, hit

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00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.599
<v Speaker 4>the ball three hundred plus feet. But because of the rules,

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00:36:31.199 --> 00:36:34.079
<v Speaker 4>if say a guy hits the ball three hundred plus

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<v Speaker 4>feet and the outfielder is able to run and catch it.

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<v Speaker 4>On one bounce, the batter is out. So people have people. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>people hit like hit home runs if they if they

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00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 4>hit the ball into a bush, there is a bush

682
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 4>that is in fair territory. So balls have gotten lost

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<v Speaker 4>in this bush and people have been able to get

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00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:57.920
<v Speaker 4>around the bases because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing wrong with that. Look Wrigley Field, if it gets

686
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<v Speaker 2>into the vines ground will double simple as that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>look at where can folks get? Give us the best website.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we're going to get some of our fiends

689
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<v Speaker 2>to go up there and watch. You'll go ahead, what's

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00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:11.880
<v Speaker 2>the website?

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<v Speaker 4>So if you go on Facebook and take in the

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<v Speaker 4>Essex Baseball Organization, you'll find us there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. Sounds great, Brian. It's great that the tradition

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<v Speaker 2>is kept alive. Sounds like a great way to spend

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<v Speaker 2>a summer afternoon watching some folks play, or maybe even

696
00:37:29.480 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 2>get out there yourselves. You still need players or the

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<v Speaker 2>rosters full.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm always looking for new players, new fans, new umpires,

699
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 4>all like all kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, some crafty left handed relief pitchers, that's what you need. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have any crafty right handers. It's always a

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<v Speaker 2>crafty left hander. Thanks Brian, enjoyed the conversation the president

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<v Speaker 2>of the Essex Baseball Organization. Sounds like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fun if you're up in that neck of the woods

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<v Speaker 2>on the north Shore. Thanks again, Brian. We'll talk. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk again.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, final have a great night.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, when we get back, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Karen Reid. Some developments today, no verdict, but developments today.

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<v Speaker 2>Questions may give us some guidance to some of you

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<v Speaker 2>out there who are paralegals or legal legals or just

712
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<v Speaker 2>simply salutes. Again, this is a serious case. It does

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<v Speaker 2>involve the death of Officer John O'Keefe, so it's nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>be made light of. But we'll talk about it and

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a point of view, we'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear from you. My name's Dan Ray and this is

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<v Speaker 2>Night Side