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Speaker 2: Hello wrestling fans to listen to Wrestling Coast to Coast,

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a Pro Wrestling Torch daily cast focus independent wrestling. I'm

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Chris Maitlan and joving this adventure is the Man, the Myth,

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the McClelland Justin mccollan, Justin. How you doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well, Chris, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing Okay. It's weird, uh summer here for me

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in the fact that it is is like eighty degrees.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's.

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Speaker 2: Weird because it was about a month or so ago

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and I've been traveling, you know, we had like almost

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one hundred degree temperature mm hmm, and I thought, wow,

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we're in for a rough summer. And now it's like, hmmm,

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I don't have to cut the grass every two weeks,

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so it been odd, a little bit odd from that regard.

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Speaker 3: In that regard, but you haven't had to cut the

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guess every two weeks. I have a much bigger yard

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than I used to. I have like a much much

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bigger yard than I used to. So it takes me well,

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probably twice as long as it used to take me

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to cut the grass at my old house. I'm pretty

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well divided it up into two days. And there's like

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a ton of like trigger sticking of the ground. So

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it's like a real pain, to a real real pain

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to cut the grass.

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Speaker 2: These days, it takes you two days to cut the grass.

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I'm yes, Oh.

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Speaker 3: It's a solid weekend.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, lean over here. You know, those of us,

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some of us don't have those first world problems.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean it takes I do about an hour

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a day. Yeah, I know. I don't know what to

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tell you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I usually I usually try to schedule it either

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early in the morning or other late at night, obviously

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with the sun but the weather being good, I haven't

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had to worry about that. But I haven't been since

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we've been gone, I haven't been as good with the weeds.

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So part of it was like yesterday, I was like, oh,

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there's some weeds I need to take care of that.

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Speaker 3: So oh yeah, I did like a whole like big

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weeding session over the weekend, which was actually a lot

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of fun. I got it, I got a good farmer's tan,

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listen to some podcasts, so I really actually enjoyed that

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quite a bit. It is relaxing. I love a good

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weed session.

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Speaker 2: So i' mean we have to talk to you more

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about the weeds, because we are weeds out of control.

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Though some of us we already have a tance. We

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don't need to mow or we need to get one.

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Speaker 3: And for all the kids listening, not that kind of weed.

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Speaker 2: It is legal in Ohio.

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Speaker 3: But it is legal.

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Speaker 2: But we're talking about the ones that grow in your grass.

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But that's not making any better, no, the ones you

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use certain products that have been part of litigation for that.

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Probably let's move on. So we are we covering independent wrestling,

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and we mentioned last week. I used to have good

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smooth segues. I'm losing my touch. We covered last week

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and that's still ongoing. That WWE announced that they would

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have or several wrestlers announced and sometimes confirmed by different

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companies that there would be different wrestlers having wrestled tryouts

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during summer some weekends, which is this weekend coming up

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up in Minnesota. Minneapolis. One name that came out just

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this week reporter by fight Full very interesting to us.

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He is someone we've covered in the last week, but

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he did a wrestle in a w under a different name,

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and that is kJ Orso, who wrestled we covered last

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week against Busting the Brain with his teammate Sam Stackhouse.

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Actually makes so we make a reference with him on

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the show, but he ended up it was Foye Go

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del Soul in AW. But he will be getting a

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try out with w W this weekend. DestinE, you have

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any thoughts on that?

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Speaker 3: I mean, good for him. I think we've been in

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a big well, I've been at least a big fan

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of the Orso Stackhouse team in GCW, you know, so,

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I mean it's always cool when somebody gets a shot.

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So he's not the biggest guy, so I don't, you know,

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it's like, I don't know if they are totally in

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his favor, but definitely definitely wish him the best of lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say he you know, he was a

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mass wrestler in AAW and he was kind of like

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a comedy babyface, so.

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Speaker 3: He was like occasionally Sammy Gavara's buddy who would get

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beaten up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was making Sammy Gavarro's little buddy.

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Speaker 3: In fact, you may recalled it. He got pretty well

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decimated by Russip. I can't remember Russa's AW name, but he.

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Speaker 2: Got like Mero Miro.

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Speaker 3: He got annihilated by Miro and then they're like, guess what,

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You've won a contract for getting destroyed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that is part of the problem with AW

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sometimes that they don't necessarily value wins and losses in

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a way that you think they do. But what I

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meant to say is that he sort of reinvented himself

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in a whole different character being a heel, you know,

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having a few more violent matches in the season with

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Sam Stock Sam Stackhouse. To him, he's a pretty decent promo,

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so credit to him. And I think, you know, with

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not all these wrestles will be signed, so will get

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signed by I think it is never bad for any

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of them to be mentioned as getting w W tryouts,

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being on the radar of W because other companies may

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take notice of you just because of that. So good

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luck to him, good luck to all the people getting tryouts.

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Hopefully we will be able to get a full list

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when the tryout takes place next week, and if we do,

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we'll talk about it here on Wrestling Coast to Coast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is like a aj styles helped some people

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get some tryouts, but I think the only one we

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knew so I'm scanning desperately was Brook.

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Speaker 2: Havoc, So yeah, I think that he. I guess he's

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taking his job very serious. I know he's been working

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at the Program Performance Center, working with Evolve wrestlers. I

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guess obviously giving people these opportunities are recommending them anyway.

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I think W has and I've learned this a lot

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with our I mean ten years ago now, I used

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to go to Evolve shows in New York and I

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would see William Regal, so I knew they were scouted.

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But now it's clear that w has their eyes even

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more independent talent, as you can see with the talent

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has come through NXT over the last several years. They

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the world. So they're trying to get as many people

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Speaker 3: Yes, and the little teaser, this isn't the last time

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take you all back to the wonderful

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year of nineteen ninety five. Do you remember nineteenninety five? Justine?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was. I was a freshman and later of

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sophomore in high school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ninety five. I'm a year behind you, so I

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guess eighth grade freshman Diesel.

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Speaker 3: Diesel ruled the WWF, who was terrible?

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Speaker 2: Apparently I didn't know these things at the time, because

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you know, oh, I.

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Speaker 3: Didn't like Diesel. That was like the first time I

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ever rooted for a heel, Like was when I was

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reading for Sean Michaels at WrestleMania eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I never I mean, the this is a tangible

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Were you a WrestleMania six? Did you? Were you watching six?

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Speaker 3: No? I didn't have cables, so I like, I mean,

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I was following it, but I wasn't. I did not

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watch it live.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because I was one of the people who was

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like very much didn't I was like done with Agen.

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I wanted Warrior to win.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, See I couldn't even like fathom the idea

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of Hawk Cog and losing.

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Speaker 2: And part of that for me was as a kid,

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I kind of even though I kind of like I

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liked Randy Savage, and even in the back of my

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mind it's kind of one of the things when people

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think about wrestling fans being smart, in the back of

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my mind, I was like, Oh, they made Randy Savage

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a bad guy so Holgan could win, And I was

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annoyed by this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's that's fair.

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Speaker 2: And then then Holk ended up winning the title and

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then losing it to Warrior at wrestlming A six. But

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back that was like back to nineteen ninety five. Yeah,

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Diesel won the title. He lost it to Brett Hart

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in some Survivor series ninety five. Yes, but ninety five

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was the first year of the in your House pay

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per view Yes, which, in preparing for our show today,

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I realized a lot of the problems that a lot

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of people prescribed to wrestling. It's me in some regard

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comes to the Nitro era. The fact that they had

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Nitro and they started changing what was what type of

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matches were on television. But a lot of ways, I

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feel some of the issues also come back to nineteen

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eety five, and that was the beginning of the in

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your house pay per view because WWF, at that time,

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the number one wrestling company in the world, started adding

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more pay per views. You know.

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Speaker 3: There's also a fun fact. So we got cable in

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nineteen ninety four, so and at the time, like there's

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some weird deal you could have like cable normally, but

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if you want to do the pay per view, you

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had to go get a special box from the cable

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company and like and you would use it and then

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you would bring it.

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Speaker 2: Back or you would so that they didn't have a

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phone number.

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Speaker 3: No, not yet. The phone number came later, and so

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I got And also like paper views were like this

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outlandish price of like twenty five dollars or something, right,

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WrestleMania and then we still had the box and my dad,

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my hero, was like, well, it's only twenty bucks, we

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can we can get the first in your House. So

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which had a very good Brett Hart Haukushi match.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I ended up on some of the

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Brett Hart DVDs. Yeah, I think In Your House was

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one of the and WCWL try Thing had more paper

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views at the time, but In your House, in my mind,

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was one of the first pay per views. I'm kind

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of like, huh, this is we got to be a

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bit too much here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was like every month now and it

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really did change it like sped up like how fast

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like programs could had to go.

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Speaker 2: And I think that, in conjunction with the change in

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TV with and how matches will put on TV, cause

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irrevocable damage to how professional wrestling is viewed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I do think, well, I mean I do think

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they you could not survive today with just like the

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four or five system, but I do think probably like well,

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just to peak, you know, peak your programs like once

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Speaker 2: Long. Story short, the reason why we've got to get

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into history of in Your House is because the show

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or doing today is in our House. Jersey Championship Wrestling,

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which took place on July twenty sixth, twenty twenty six

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from Ritual Park, New Jersey. The show is available on

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Speaker 3: Just as a this will be a fateful comment I make,

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but the first thing I wrote after, like on my notes,

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after the title, was like they should just call this

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show Mason versus Bronson. Yeah, so in like hype because

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like the IP listeners in particular will know, like I

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was super hyped for this show because Bear Bronson versus

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we cover so just to give some background for

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the daily castles, as we covered Terry Yaki versus Charles Mason,

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Charles Mason is the JC Lewy champion. Plan to match

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Julien covered from VIP Charles Mason won, and Gabby Forester

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came out trying to get a tile shop. They actually

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showed this clip here, parts of it and then Bear

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to a match. They've been hopping this match. You know,

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we've covered two GCW shows recently and they aired the

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video package, So in our mind this was a one

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match show. We were all along the ride for the

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other matches, but we're focusing on that match, so we'll

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keep that in mind. Commentators with MLJ, he is joined

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because MLJ is also the ring announcer, so like he

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ring announcing, and so there'd be like big like just

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like blank spaces where you know he's like walking back

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to his desk or whatever, which is really weird and

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like a couple of times like you need the announcer

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to like highlight a like an important or seemingly important

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angle going on, and there was like nobody there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know, you know, sometimes it depends

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the shows and people can't make it or other circumstances.

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Speaker 3: H Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They got Alec Price to come out and do stuff later. Yeah,

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he's very hit or missed, but at least he would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'd be helpful to have another just

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to be that continuity because one part of the show,

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which is funny, there were in the in the in

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the Professional wrest of the World, there were two segments

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that were panned. I don't know if you saw both

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of them or either of them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen the panning, I did not actually see.

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Speaker 2: Either one was the Mick Foley was the aw the

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Dominion segment, which when I saw I actually texted Torch

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Contrbuder rich fan and asked him did this actually air

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on the pay per view? He said yes. And the

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other ish segment that was a disaster was the Dan

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House and Joe Hendry concert. Not a sign that involved

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Ryan Garcia, who has a lot of issues and questionable,

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has a lot of questionable things that you know, really

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annoy people that he's on the show. But the segment

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thisself was pretty bad and we had we had a

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segment on the show from an independent level, I felt

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on that level of badness, if that's the word. Yeah. Anyway,

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before the opening match, MLJ announced that they will be

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giving out a house during the show which if you

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were called back to nineteen ninety five, that was one

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of the claims of the first in Your House that

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the w would be giving out a house. Yes, the

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opening match was Marcus Mathers versus Leeds Lewis.

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Speaker 3: The crowd chanstars.

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Speaker 2: That's right, the crowd chanted USA when the match began

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because Lee's Lewis is from France, so clearly he Lewis

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is kind of like, really, guys, I mean, okay, he

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had the look Lewis as the rest is only about

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thirty five matches, they said on commentary.

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Speaker 3: And we've seen three of them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's interesting that he's on GC's w's radar as

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someone that is from another country.

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Speaker 2: As a noted earlier, MLJ announced that this match at

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the first hour of the show I ended up being

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You can watch them there. Mathers and Lewis fought on

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the top rope. Lewis was able to hit a bulldog

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off the top rope and hit a moon Salt onto

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Mathers on the outside to count. Lewis went for split

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legging Moonsalt, but Mathers got his knee up Matthis went

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for a move but Lewis for first INTENSI. Matheris kicked

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out and Lewis rolled up Mathers two more times and

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was able to only get two counts. They both ran

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the ropes and Mathers Lewis hit him with the death

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five driver. Mathers went to the top rope and hit

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the four to fifty fort the win. So Marcus Mathers

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is your winner in ten minutes and twenty six seconds.

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And some stuff happened after or then after the match,

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but before we get to that, justin your thoughts on

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the opening contest.

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Speaker 3: So it was very it felt to me like they

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were told they had ten minutes and Mathers was winning,

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so he gave Leeds like he gave him a ton

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of offense, like probably gave him like seventy five percent

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of the match, it felt like, and he basically this

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is my imaginary conversation, but he told Leads he could

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do anything he wanted. So Leeds tried to do basically

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every move he knew in that time. It was like

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he struggled in places he had like this is Lee's

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is He had one like pretty big slip up and

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there were some times he like hesitated or looked kind

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of awkward. But I thought, like Mathers, you know, kind

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of held it together very well. A lot of it.

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I said, felt paint by numbers, but like it really

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did pick up in the last two minutes, and I

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thought was pretty good by the end. You know, this

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Leads guy, they like you said, they've been like they

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brought him an excursion after like a month's worth of matches.

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So like, if you consider like his level of experience,

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he is really really good at this point. So I

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can only imagine that they will you be using him more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I think he's gonna be I'm interesting to

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see if he's on a visa or here for sponsored

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by a school, or how he's here for so long,

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But we looking to that. Next this showed highlights for

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Mathers versus Cappuccino, Joe's and Tulsa and Tulsa to the

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would be id Products match. Mathers challenge Aby Styles. He

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could have proposely never wrestle Aj Styles so he can

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wrestle Avery Styles. They challenged him to a match at

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Rude Awakening, is taking place next weekend the couple coming

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weekend in Minneapolis. My only detriment of this was that

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MLJ mentioned this at the end of the Mathers lead

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Lewis match before this promo aired.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems unnecessary. I'm like, I'm really curious to

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see what Aj styles son looks like. So I don't know,

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we might end up doing that for VIP.

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Speaker 2: He might. I think it's very interesting for him to

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be in that spotlight. I mean, I'm sure Aj Styles

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is aware of, you know, Mathers from wid I'm sure

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he was a hand picked opponent, but it's interesting for

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him to have a match with this kind of Spotlight

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one of the major independents, so yeah, we might have

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to cover that match on VIP. The next match is

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my Skyros Versusustin Waller. We talked about Waller being a

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heel and beyond wrestling, definitely a heel. Here the crowds

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behind Skyros. Waller hit a kick and the crowd booed heavily.

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out of the way. Skyro's is the clothes line. Waller

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had spas turnbuckle, followed by a springboard cutter Walard and

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an arrogant pin and Skyro's kicked out. He missed a

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kick and Skyro's was able to hit one, and Skyros

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hit a leaping DDT off the ropes for the wind

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So Mike Skyro's babyface win in eight minutes and twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt bad for saying this, but Skyros had

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this like this, like I guess like skull face paint

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It was very It felt like an indie gimmick guy

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seemed very dated. He was built at first as the

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Midnight Sun, which there's a pop song by a Swedish

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performer called Zara Larson called Midnight Sun where she like whales,

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and honestly, if he had come out to that song,

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it would have been hilarious. But he came out to

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like this generic emo rock and then it turned out

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that EMLJ had made a mistake and he's actually the

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Moonlight Sun, which is honestly an even worse nickname, so

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I don't love the gimmick. The match match was okay.

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like Vegas. They had like a very late arriving crowd

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before this JCW show for some reason. I guess they're like, ah,

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we can skip the YouTube pre show. But the building

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was not very full and it was very dead at

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this point. Unfortunately. I was really I did not acpect

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Skyris to win it all. I guess, you know Waller,

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But then I was like, oh, Waller doesn't really appear

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in like the GCW slash JCW world all that often.

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I'm just used to him being like a megastar in

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Wrestling Open and kind of the IWTV world. So I

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mean there's a couple of times I'm like, oh, it

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really took me by surprise how people are positioned on

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this show because I watched a lot of IWTV, But

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I I don't know. I thought the match was just

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kind of plodding, Like there was lots of back and

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forth and like good enough moves, but it was no great,

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no great flow to it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, is the is the thinking, like, is

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Skyris going to get some kind of like j CW

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slash GW push out of this or I mean, I've

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never seen him on the GCW show before, but it

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seemed like j CW is kind of like an entryway

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for a lot of people, so perhaps we'll be back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my assumption was and this wasn't the only match

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that falls in this category. But there are some matches

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where I think people are just putting to get wins. Yeah,

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potential future storylines or future angles or future title shots.

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But you know, the they weren't necessarily squash matches, but

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there are some here that were pretty pretty clear who

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was gonna win.

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Speaker 3: So wait, did you think Skyris was gonna win?

474
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: I thought so. I thought that belt he was a

475
00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:23,920
I felt like someone like Waller unless something changed, I

476
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,960
didn't see him as winning this because I feel like

477
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,640
they've they've never really booked they booked him a few times,

478
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:31,759
w they haven't really used them prominently.

479
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 3: See I guess yeah. Like to me, I'm I'm just

480
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,480
so used to like Miracle Generation being a big deal.

481
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,279
But that's in like the iw TV.

482
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:46,839
Speaker 2: World Highs were shown from the tag team title match,

483
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,400
who covered last week between Busting the Brain and kJ

484
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,240
Orso and Sam Stackhouse where Hook came in and made

485
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,880
the save and leading to Busting the Brain retaining the

486
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,759
the tag team titles, which again sets up the next match,

487
00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:10,000
which is the Game CHANGERR Wrestling Tag Team Championship. Bust

488
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:12,599
In the Brain, Alec Pryce and join Oliver your champions

489
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,839
versus Control Chaos, Kid Chaos and Paper Juice. We have

490
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,119
not seen Control Chaos before their father and son team.

491
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,119
They're a team that wrestled primarily in New Jersey and

492
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,240
are getting a chance on the show. I listened to

493
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,079
Lance Storm on Wrestling Observer Live today talk about match

494
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,960
lengths and when he said that, I thought about Dismatch

495
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,880
in particular, not that it was a bad match, but

496
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,960
it went almost It went seventeen and a half minutes

497
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,960
for a match in which we pretty much knew who

498
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:49,200
was going to win. Busting's the Brain win for an

499
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,519
assistant ascid bomb of Control Chaos escape in total elimination

500
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:54,880
for two count. I love total elimination as a move,

501
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,920
happy to see it. Both teams went to make tags

502
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,160
and decided to square off from the ring, which kind

503
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,519
of negated the whole pack that they've been attacked in

504
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:05,920
the first place. Busting the Brain in a double cross

505
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,240
body for two count of control Chaos try to break

506
00:28:08,319 --> 00:28:10,960
up a Price on the flip, but Jordan was able

507
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,559
to break the whole of the team and Price rolled

508
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,640
up Chaos for the win. That's kids, kid Chaos. He's

509
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,400
the kid obviously, as the team SI so busting the brake.

510
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,279
Excuse me, all your winners. In seventeen minutes and twenty

511
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:27,200
three seconds after the match, Price said there are not

512
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,039
too many teams that could give them that much of

513
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:33,359
a challenge, acknowledged Controlled Chaos. They all hugged and shook hands.

514
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,839
Busting the Brain left so that Control Chaos could soak

515
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,640
up some cheers. Again. I liked the match, but very

516
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:45,759
long for a match with a pretty assumed outcome. Busting

517
00:28:45,839 --> 00:28:49,799
the Brain your winners retaining DUC Taxing Championships in seventeen

518
00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:51,319
minutes and twenty three seconds.

519
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,359
Speaker 1: You know that last segment you're just listening to and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the match, like you, It was probably

535
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,319
too long. I think part of it they were trying

536
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,039
to pad out to the very near the end of

537
00:29:48,119 --> 00:29:52,680
their YouTube our like pre show because this ran into like,

538
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:56,359
I think the fifty five minutes of the of that show.

539
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,680
So it was just enough to like, I guess, wait

540
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:05,759
your whistle. I I did question the wisdom of like

541
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,640
indie wise, like Busting the Brain are probably like fairly

542
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,799
big big stars I think, And so I was like, well,

543
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,880
would you really want to put them on the pre show?

544
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,559
I can see the merit both ways, like either put

545
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,839
them on the pre shows kind of like a way

546
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,839
to draw people in to watch the pre show, or

547
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,200
would you like hold them off to the actual Triller

548
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,480
portion to draw people over to actually trying to buy

549
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:34,079
Chiller Plus.

550
00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 2: Well, this was technically I guess with them when they

551
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,039
were saying it was not a pre show, it was

552
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:43,079
actually the first third of the show.

553
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:47,799
Speaker 3: So is the pre Yeah, it was like ww's previous

554
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:54,079
until this week set up on ESPN. Yes, but I

555
00:30:54,119 --> 00:30:57,119
mean it's still pre I don't know, like, don't get

556
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,640
lost in terminology. It's still like a way to entice

557
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,079
people to buy the rest of your show. Yes, So

558
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,039
I don't know if it was wise to use Bustering

559
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,240
the Brain in that position or if keeping them off

560
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,039
is the better way to like entice people, but it

561
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,960
you know, and just have like a promo. I don't

562
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,079
know if they're big enough stars for that to matter

563
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:25,599
or not. Yeah, So, like, as I was saying, I

564
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,960
like the match. At one point busting the brain, they

565
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,480
did this move. They teased like they were going to

566
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,599
do a double flapjack on Papa Juice, but then they

567
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:36,319
flipped him forward into a double spinebuster. We've talked a

568
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:40,319
lot about their unfortunate double styles clash move that we

569
00:31:40,359 --> 00:31:43,039
don't like, and I think I was like, this actually

570
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:44,839
would have been a better finisher for them to, like

571
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:50,119
the double like a high angle revolving double spinebuster. I

572
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,160
thought what was actually been cooler. They did not even

573
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:59,680
attempt the double styles clash in this match, I did think.

574
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,359
So I actually have thought a lot about the finish

575
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,799
of the match, which, like you said, it was basically

576
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,799
Price is trying to subset flip Kid Chaos. Juice grabs

577
00:32:10,839 --> 00:32:15,039
his son's hands, but Oliver literally like dives onto the

578
00:32:15,079 --> 00:32:17,400
hands to break it up and Price gets the pin,

579
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,839
and like, it's not a bad finish in theory, but

580
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,119
I think it was the wrong finish for this team

581
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,480
in this match because it's a kind of finish like

582
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,119
since we're talking about like, it reminded me it was

583
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,039
kind of like similar to the way the Rockers meet

584
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:41,640
the Orient Express at Roller Rumbo nineteen ninety one, which

585
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:47,440
involved like Sean Michaels was getting splung shot into one

586
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,079
of the Orient Express members, but Martin Gannetti punched the

587
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,359
guy in the stomach and Sean was able to flip

588
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,359
over and do him give him a sunset flip. It's

589
00:32:54,359 --> 00:32:57,720
a really incredible finish actually, but it worked in part

590
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,279
because the Rockers were like this little team and they're

591
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:06,599
always fighting from underneath, so they can when they pull

592
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,920
out like this slick move, you're it like it seems

593
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720
like a big win, but well, Buster in the Brain

594
00:33:13,839 --> 00:33:17,480
are not like physically imposing. They're like the GCW tagting champs.

595
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:23,039
They're like these wrong long raining champs. They've beaten all

596
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:27,119
kinds of teams much bigger than them, and then you know, uh,

597
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,839
Control Chaos are are just like these underdog teams getting

598
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:34,640
a shot. So like if they had done that victory,

599
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,880
you know, it'd be like, okay, they had to like

600
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,319
fight from underneath and got the win anyway they could.

601
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:42,240
But it's like Buster in the Brain are already like

602
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:46,839
way way established in GCW, so for them to do

603
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,400
that It's not like it just felt it wasn't like

604
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,599
out of the character. It just felt like very anti climactic,

605
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,079
And there's a way better finisher they actually did earlier,

606
00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:01,279
where see Papa Juice had kidks on his shoulders to

607
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,519
do like flip him over into a splash on Oliver,

608
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,239
but Price like instead ran up the ropes and ended

609
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,400
up giving chaos like his flying blockbuster move from there.

610
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:14,960
And I was like, that would have been a way

611
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,199
better finish because it would have been that you know,

612
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,079
the Challengers were just looking good and then it was

613
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:25,280
just unfortunately they got outsmarted by the superior Champions, and

614
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,320
I think it would have been more exciting that way. So,

615
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,880
I mean, it's a long winded kind of psychology I

616
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,119
was thinking about with this match. So yeah, like I said,

617
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:37,840
I think it was a good finish, but it probably

618
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,760
was not the right finish for this team.

619
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean this is a match where

620
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,840
I know you don't cover HW Jason very often, but

621
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,840
I'm kind of like, Okay, after this match, what is

622
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,519
next for this team? Because they had this type of

623
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,440
match against the champions, and so what what are you

624
00:34:57,639 --> 00:34:58,440
doing next with them?

625
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: Something that well, it speaks to like a bigger problem

626
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,840
with like what is you know, what is j c

627
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:09,199
W like trying to accomplish and how and what is

628
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,960
its relation with GCW. If there are like separate j

629
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:15,679
CW titles, You're like, Okay, well, these guys they had

630
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,119
this big win against the big City champs, but and

631
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:21,719
they lost. But now they can you know, get a

632
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,079
moral victory and go against like the j CW tag titles.

633
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,960
But those don't exist. And there's actually like a more

634
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,280
egregious case of this later in the show too.

635
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that. A lot of greed ingregious

636
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:40,360
cases on this show. Next, we have highlights from Tussa

637
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,880
and Tulsa where it leads Lewis team with Bust of

638
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,960
the Brain. They got the victory. Sam Stackhouse came out

639
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,320
attacked their opponents, not sure who they were. This allowed

640
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,039
kJ or So to attack Lewis and Busting the Brain

641
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:58,360
with the Kendlestick. He held them down and challenged Busting

642
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,360
the Brain to a rematch him and Stackhouse for the

643
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,639
GCW Texan titles at GCW Homecoming coming up at the

644
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:05,639
end of August.

645
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: I was livid. I was like, are you kidding?

646
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 5: Me.

647
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: We were so excited about the first title match, and

648
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:15,719
you suckered us into watching that whole show and I

649
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,360
was like, oh no, really I watched his other one.

650
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,119
Speaker 2: Yes, especially because the heat the baby faces cheat of

651
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:23,920
the heels.

652
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:29,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know, like you would think like

653
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,800
Orso and Stackhouse have to win this time. But again, like,

654
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,199
it's I think politically hard for Busting the Brain to

655
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:40,519
lose because they're aw talent. And also if Orso's like

656
00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:43,280
got a w or WW tryout, he may not be

657
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,360
around for very much longer, so they may not want

658
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:46,840
to put the titles on him for that reason.

659
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'll know how to try out. That

660
00:36:49,039 --> 00:36:55,400
tryout went well, Yeah, come again. The uh next match

661
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:59,480
was CPA versus Slade, which we saw a few weeks

662
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,920
ago and at the GCW show in July fourth. We

663
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:03,480
enjoyed it.

664
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a lot of fun because they just

665
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,039
they brawled all over the stands. It was not it

666
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:11,000
was hardly like an actual match, but it was just

667
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:15,679
them like doing goofy spots in the baseball bleachers.

668
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,679
Speaker 2: Slade grabbed the mic and criticized someone in the crowd,

669
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,119
which is odd but not part of the show. I

670
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:26,440
thought Slave was that gimmick was that he didn't talk.

671
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,719
That was just when he's in beyond. CPA comes out

672
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:31,519
to feels like a woman.

673
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he.

674
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,159
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

675
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Slave did like commentary on the VIP match we

676
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,880
covered with the Bear Bronson Richard Holiday match. Yes, and

677
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,559
there's more commentary from Slade to come.

678
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: There was more CPA comes out that feels like a

679
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,519
woman by Shania Twain, which I had not realize before. Yes,

680
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,519
they showed Amy Rose for some reason, has a ring

681
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:03,639
announced ring bell person to ring the ring bell. For

682
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:05,840
some reason, they show her struggling to get the ring

683
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,360
table to the corner, even though it wasn't there before

684
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,639
and not there for any other match. Slade uses distraction

685
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,280
to chuck slam CPA. He yelled ut Rose to ring

686
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,840
the bell. CPA had a dropkick on Slade and had

687
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,840
trouble getting up. The crowd went silent. He was playing

688
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,719
with his hands. Slade picked CPA and put him in

689
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,320
the corner. The ref called for the bell. Looked like

690
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,639
he was injured, so the Slade won due to rest

691
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:34,719
hours in six minutes and eight seconds. CPA sorry. Slade

692
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,320
argued with Amy Rose that she did ring the bell,

693
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,840
then took the bell and hit CPA with the bell

694
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,679
in the head and he grabbed Amy Rose, made her

695
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,840
ring the bell, kissed her on the forehead, and went

696
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,119
to the commentary booth. This was a cluster. I made

697
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,360
the reference earlier about a segment that was up there

698
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,519
with the mc foley and the Joe Hendry dan Housen

699
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,920
sketch from earlier this week. This is an independent level

700
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,039
of that. It was just an absolute disaster. It didn't

701
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:07,840
make any sense. I don't know where it's going. I

702
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,639
have no idea why they did that, you know, putting

703
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,519
things subtly in the ring to have this random angle

704
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:18,800
makes no sense. I hated it, but justin what are

705
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,400
your thoughts?

706
00:39:20,679 --> 00:39:25,039
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree that this match was a disaster. I

707
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:28,760
so this is early the first part with Amy Rose

708
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:34,800
moving her ring bell or timekeeper's table close to the

709
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,360
ring obviously like signaled an angle coming, but also with

710
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,079
something where you needed an announcer to at least try

711
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:44,320
to like fill in what the heck was going on.

712
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:48,840
But again like there's no secondary announcer in MLJ's walking

713
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,639
from the ring back to his table, so he can't

714
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:54,679
say anything so we're just kind of left watching it

715
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,679
and puzzling. I don't know, it looked to me like

716
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:05,199
the CPA's like had a at least a feared shoot

717
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,079
concussion just because the ending came out of nowhere. I

718
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:10,440
don't know if they were trying to do a work

719
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,039
shoot or I mean, it felt like a shoot just

720
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:16,519
because of the awkwardness of the ending. But if that

721
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,400
was the case, there's no way in heck that Slade

722
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,360
should like even pretend to hit him with the ring

723
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,400
bell like he did after that, So I mean, somebody

724
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,880
should have if they really did stop the matches the

725
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,079
idea was a concussion, then they should have been, like

726
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,480
somebody should have got worried, like, do not do this

727
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,559
angle or I don't common sense should tell you to

728
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:42,400
not do this angle. So I hope. I'm just like

729
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,239
they did a really good job of making it look

730
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,280
like an awkward shoot ref stoppage to pull it off,

731
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,840
which I mean, you can argue the merits of doing

732
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,760
that anyway. But if that, if he actually did have

733
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,320
a suspected like head injury, then like they handled it

734
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,320
like in the completely wrong way, so that whole thing

735
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:04,880
was terrible.

736
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 5: Are you a fan of AW looking to sit back,

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00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:21,519
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00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:23,920
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742
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:30,480
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743
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Speaker 2: Next, they showed highlights from Melee and Manchester. We covered

751
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:09,199
this last week. Someone in a mask attacked Anakin Murphy.

752
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,000
This was a scramble match and Charles Mason won by

753
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:20,119
pinning Garby Forza. After the match, after match, sorry, Mason

754
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:23,719
kept attacking Forza and Baron Bronson made the save. Slade

755
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,079
went to the commentary booth after the match. He's still

756
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:30,440
there for the next match between Leo Sparrow versus Garby

757
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,679
Florza for Ultimatum fans. I watched the Ultimatum season four

758
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:37,320
Leo Sparrow. I saw that he looks kind of like

759
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,559
this guy killing on that show, one of the trashy

760
00:42:41,599 --> 00:42:44,280
reality TV shows that I watched with my wife. The

761
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,440
crowd was behind Florza and against Sparrow. Forza hit a

762
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,199
spear for a two count for as A followed up

763
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,599
with a tilta roll slam for a two count. Forsa

764
00:42:52,639 --> 00:42:55,599
picked Sparrow up with Sparrow escaped and grabbed a hand

765
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:58,400
full of I thought it was spinach, but they said

766
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,800
it was Kay. I'm not quite sure. Hope wasn't let

767
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,400
us yeah Forza. If it was, then he would have won.

768
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Forza grabbed him by the foot and pulled him closer

769
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,760
to her. She lived him up, but he escaped and

770
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,159
threw spinach into her face. He had a double underhookd

771
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,119
DDT for a one count. Forza holked up in a clothesline,

772
00:43:17,159 --> 00:43:19,519
followed with the fire thunder driver, the finisher of bear

773
00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:22,559
Brons and her husband for the win. So Gabby Forlorza,

774
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,039
motivated by roughage, is your winner in twelve minutes and

775
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:30,119
twelve seconds.

776
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 3: So I mean slave like you said, Slave was on

777
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:38,440
commentary kind of hilarious in his own way. They have

778
00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:40,880
the you know it starts Sparrow and Forza do a

779
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,159
lock up, and so he goes good, strong, walk up, great,

780
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,000
this is good to be boring, and like he just

781
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,880
complains about being bored during like when they go through

782
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,679
the whole like you know, training headlocks kind of spots.

783
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,840
Later on, he's like, this guy mean Leo Sparrow came

784
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,960
out with let this or something on his head. He's

785
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:09,239
just an idiot. And he actually noted when like Sparrow

786
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,360
shoved the lettuce in Gabby's mouth, you know that there

787
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,880
was a parasite going around and it could be really dangerous.

788
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:19,960
So I thought it was pretty funny. Actually it probably

789
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,280
improved the match a lot of ways. You know, we

790
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,360
got some good power stuff from Gabby. Uh and it

791
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,639
really did seem to wake the crowd up. There's a

792
00:44:27,639 --> 00:44:30,079
lot more people there for starters, but and they are

793
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:33,079
like really really into Gabby for at this point. So

794
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,880
I think, you know, very much a credit to her.

795
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,760
She did some she did some good power stuff, Like

796
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,039
she like presses Leo just very casually and throws him down.

797
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:51,199
I was Gabby took enough of the match. I was

798
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,480
really worried that she was going to lose again, especially

799
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,719
after like Mason Head, Charles Mason had harped on her

800
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,840
losing a lot previously, and it was like, this is

801
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,280
some weird backwards way to get her a title shot.

802
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,440
But nope, she just won and actually it's pretty dominant

803
00:45:06,639 --> 00:45:12,159
in doing so. So I was I mean, I was

804
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:14,599
grad that I thought, based on how much of the

805
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,119
matching took in this match was a little too long

806
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,599
and just felt like they were kind of trying to

807
00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:22,000
drag things out to get it into twelve minutes. But

808
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,039
at the end, like it achieved getting Gabby over, so

809
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,000
that was it achieved its purpose.

810
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:31,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, another match with someone who hasn't really appeared that

811
00:45:31,679 --> 00:45:35,199
much in JCW, buck could against someone who's been on

812
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,639
the show quite a bit, so again kind of telegraphing

813
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,840
how that was going to go. Highlights of the feud

814
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,400
between Christian Naprier and Viprus, which again, as we talked

815
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,199
about last week pre lengthy it's kind of engulfed GCW

816
00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:57,880
with the Vandal forty eight and there was a match

817
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,159
in the Cowboy Way made a SI and there was fire,

818
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,039
and then Vipress came out of the I guess from

819
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:08,320
the hospital. I was able to attack Napier and Cowboy

820
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,679
Ways Team one, and Viprus challenged Napier to a match

821
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,800
at homecoming called a Chola chain match. Justin What is

822
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,039
a chola chain match?

823
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, it's one of those things

824
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,920
where it's a regular chain match, but they add an

825
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,639
adjective to it and add like it's somehow different.

826
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a first time match, they said in GCW,

827
00:46:28,199 --> 00:46:29,400
So we first time.

828
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 3: I think I've ever heard of one anywhere.

829
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, so, and chain matches can be very difficult

830
00:46:35,679 --> 00:46:38,519
to work for reasons, you know, having me changed to

831
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:39,920
someone as hard to hit the moves.

832
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,679
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean you could expect gore. Hopefully it's

833
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,679
a like it's still like a pin fall chain match

834
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,679
and not like the four corners ones. Those are never

835
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,519
really very good.

836
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: The next match is the starting lineup Don Freese, Elvi Gigante, Elevajonte,

837
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,599
Jermaine Marbury, Nylon Brooks in a rock versus the Washington Generals,

838
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Chatting Decker, Donovan, Stevenstets and Tarzan Durham and Vinnie Talada

839
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,559
so you know, we have to explain references sometimes justin

840
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,760
being the fact that we are men in our mid forties.

841
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,760
To do people still know about the Harlem Glowtrotters.

842
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,679
Speaker 3: I think so yes, because I mean the Harlem Lofrid

843
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,719
a still tour. They come to Dayton every year. I

844
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,239
saw them, Now it was several years ago, but it

845
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,880
was like pre COVID that I haven't seen them recently recently.

846
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:29,559
Speaker 2: I saw them once as a kid. It's something you

847
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,639
would take, could take the kids too. But they are

848
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,599
traveling basketball teams. Justin noted. They do tricks and other

849
00:47:36,639 --> 00:47:40,039
exciting moves, dunks, flying things. No matter where they go,

850
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,480
they win. I think they've lost one game maybe two

851
00:47:42,519 --> 00:47:46,480
in their history. And their opponents are the Washington Generals.

852
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,639
So when I see a match with one of the

853
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:53,679
teams called the Washington Generals, I know how it's going.

854
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,159
And I had assumed this was the match of for

855
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,320
intermission or after intermission. There was no internation.

856
00:47:59,559 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 5: It was not the.

857
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: Jermaine Marbury hit Donovan with some leather roll movements and

858
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:10,320
hit a cutter for the win. So the starting lineup

859
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,880
was your winner. In seventeen minutes and thirty one seconds. Yeah,

860
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:15,239
this was.

861
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,679
Speaker 3: It was also seventeen minutes, yes, which was it wasn't

862
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,800
that bad because you did have ten people in it,

863
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,079
but it still seemed like geez, I think probably, you know,

864
00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:31,679
twelve or thirteen probably would have been enough. The Washington

865
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,519
General's I'm like pretty sure came out to vaders WCW team.

866
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 2: I think it did.

867
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, they did not explain why there was a

868
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:47,280
Harlem Globe Charters theme going on. Although this is another

869
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,159
case where if you watch too much itv IWTV or

870
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:53,320
like why Steven Stetson on the job or team?

871
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,599
Speaker 2: But I thought that too when they like were lined

872
00:48:57,679 --> 00:48:59,000
up like he there.

873
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, but you know, like we're not on

874
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,599
IWT TV right now.

875
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:05,639
Speaker 2: I think.

876
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: Alec Price was on commentary. He was actually, okay, is

877
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,920
way better than last week. Uh, and he sort of

878
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,679
explained this is like the next generation of the GCW

879
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:18,440
in a kind of like approving ground match for them,

880
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:19,679
which makes sense.

881
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

882
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,679
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, I thought everybody kind of got

883
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,119
the chance to do their stuff, and we got some

884
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:34,119
really good people like Barton, I wrote, even though there's

885
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:38,639
no Barton, I had did like this amazingly high drop

886
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,280
kick who did. I mean, it must have been Brooks.

887
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 2: Brooks.

888
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,159
Speaker 3: Brooks had like this amazingly high drop kick where he

889
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,880
basically hit the top of this guy's head. Don Freeze

890
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,400
is kind of a large fellow who they got to

891
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,960
make some cold jokes about, like saying he's a pretty

892
00:49:55,039 --> 00:49:58,480
chill dude, but he actually like did a lot of

893
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:04,039
like very athletic aerial stuff. I think was impressive. Tarzan

894
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:09,800
Duran and Vegio or via Jhante work together a lot.

895
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,079
It seems like they actually like do work together a lot,

896
00:50:12,159 --> 00:50:15,119
but they I thought were very impressive. Did a lot

897
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:18,599
of like high flying stuff. The Vigonte's kind of a

898
00:50:18,639 --> 00:50:21,880
small guy, but he really really like wiled the crowd.

899
00:50:23,159 --> 00:50:25,199
So the match was a lot of fun. Several guys

900
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,400
got to shine, Like we've liked Marberry for a while

901
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,880
also in IWTV, so you know, I think a lot

902
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,320
of these guys could definitely come back and be used

903
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,000
in JCW.

904
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,159
Speaker 2: The reason why I yelled about the latter movement is

905
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:45,800
because Jermaine Marbrade the dream Shake name that you listen

906
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,679
to a couple of podcasts, you don't know where that

907
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,159
came from.

908
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,400
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Speaker 2: The Next Mattress Griffin McCoy versus Kylie Alexa, Kylie Alexa,

926
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,480
hit a few moves here and there, McCoy had most

927
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:55,639
of the offense. He had a super plex he was

928
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,639
going for poor Alexa reversus into a pin for two count.

929
00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:01,559
All th uss were done. Let's McCoy with a bunch

930
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,320
of slaps, but he took her down with one. Then

931
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,679
jockey for position and McCoy hit a Tiger suplex eighty

932
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,000
five followed by jumping kick off the top rope for

933
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:13,920
a win from McCoy. Is your winner in eight minutes

934
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:17,800
and thirty six seconds. Comparis mentioned that this may position

935
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,280
him for a future j CW title match. I assumed

936
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,840
that was the purpose of this match. Other than that,

937
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,280
I don't know the purpose it served. You're from McCoy

938
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,719
your winner in eight thirty six.

939
00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:33,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was another match. WHE was like, it was fine.

940
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,599
There was some good visuals because McCoy was much bigger

941
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,719
than Kylie and able to toss her around. He did,

942
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,360
and he did like an a dominal stretch and then

943
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,519
grabbed her other leg to kind of pull her into

944
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:48,760
a splits while doing the move, which I don't think

945
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,960
I've ever seen before, and I thought that was really

946
00:52:51,159 --> 00:52:55,360
interesting and cool. This was another match. It just it

947
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,119
felt like they were doing a lot of moves. But

948
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:00,199
it kind of lacked and lacked in flow. It was

949
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,039
just like Kylie would do something to McCoy and then

950
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:05,800
McCoy would do something to Kylie, and it didn't like

951
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:09,880
feel particularly well. At one point, Kylie had like the

952
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:13,239
worst looking slaps I've ever seen that. She slapped like

953
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,760
someone who has never seen a person slap before. She

954
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,639
kept her arms totally straight for the whole swing, like

955
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:25,000
like an inverted windmill almost. So I don't don't know

956
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,440
why she thought that would be a good slap, you know,

957
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,079
as if the match is there to build up McCoy,

958
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:31,880
then I think it served its purpose.

959
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, next we had all this is actually when

960
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:46,280
they gave Way the house. Yes, they mentioned watch the

961
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,000
first they had a video package setting up the next match,

962
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:53,639
actually just showing Junior Underwood wrestling Alec Price, Alec Price winning,

963
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,280
and then Junior Underwood getting a pep talk from Mike Bailey.

964
00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:00,320
Speaker 3: Yes, so remember that's important. Later because Bailey came out

965
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,800
and even though Junior lost, he said, like Genius is

966
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,519
getting started. This is like his breakout match and he's

967
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:12,239
ready to go. Mike Bailey said that another like it's

968
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,800
getting ridiculous too, like and I know, like, of course

969
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,840
you can't lose to like people signed the big companies,

970
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,639
but like you got it, we need less breakout matches

971
00:54:20,679 --> 00:54:21,400
where people lose.

972
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: Oh that's that's what my pet peeves, because the real

973
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:32,039
I mean you you break out from winning, like there

974
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:33,199
can a few times.

975
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean they're you know, it's not a hard and

976
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,159
fast rule, but it's like now it's like always the case.

977
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think the thing about it as well as

978
00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:44,920
a couple of things. One the example people always make

979
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:48,800
is Steve Austin losing to Brett Hart at Survivor Series

980
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:55,239
ninety six and then subsequently resuming at thirteen. Though in

981
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,199
my mind, if not for what happens Montreal, Steve Boston

982
00:54:59,199 --> 00:55:01,320
would have like beaten Brett Harward, Steve Watson won the

983
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,920
title and the eight that probably definitely happened, So then

984
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,199
it would have be looked at that way because it

985
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:09,280
would have been setting up a feud. But yeah, I mean,

986
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,400
you you get over by winning. I mean you can

987
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:14,840
lose eventually, we get to a certain point, but you

988
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:21,719
can only have so many, you know, moral victories. So

989
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,440
they did have a giveaway when they gave away a house,

990
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:26,519
and everyone looked under their chair and grabbed a piece

991
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:29,159
of paper and a kid won it, and the house

992
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,159
was like a bluey house actually very similar to the

993
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:33,599
house we got our youngest daughter for her birthday earlier.

994
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 3: That's nice.

995
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I.

996
00:55:38,599 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 3: I assume this was a setup, like and the kid

997
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,280
was always going to win.

998
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,639
Speaker 2: I hope so, but you know, maybe the kid wouldn't

999
00:55:50,679 --> 00:55:51,760
want the blue house. Who knows.

1000
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I assumed he was like a guy that

1001
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,440
a kid they knew or something.

1002
00:55:57,039 --> 00:55:57,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

1003
00:55:58,159 --> 00:56:00,280
Speaker 3: It was a you know, I don't know what was

1004
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:01,440
it was.

1005
00:56:01,559 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 5: It was.

1006
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 3: It was kind of weird, but also just felt like

1007
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,039
I didn't know the whole story.

1008
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: So the next match was Junie Underwood versus Ryan O'Neill.

1009
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:18,119
They've been a tag team and certain parts in j

1010
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,039
c W, but there here on the opposite side of

1011
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:27,960
the fence. As Justin mentioned, Mike Bailey gave my horse

1012
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,599
that led him to a great victor up He got

1013
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:32,719
hit with this with a kick to the head and

1014
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,519
a leverage pin, and Ryan O'Neil won in ten minutes

1015
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:39,159
and fifty seven seconds. The crowd had for them to

1016
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,039
hug it out. They shook hands and hogs, but I

1017
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:45,559
feel there's more to come here, all right, I.

1018
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:49,039
Speaker 3: Mean I hope. So there was at least somewhat tease

1019
00:56:49,079 --> 00:56:52,840
the animosity. Alec Price, who is one of the trainers

1020
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,079
for both these guys, he was on commentary and he

1021
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:02,960
he says like Ryan like broke this this bro code

1022
00:57:03,039 --> 00:57:06,400
by going for a headshot when they were you know,

1023
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,079
not doing that up to that point, which I don't

1024
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:13,400
know if he just like added his own storyline or what,

1025
00:57:13,559 --> 00:57:15,440
but he did at least tease some animosity.

1026
00:57:15,559 --> 00:57:16,039
Speaker 2: I do think.

1027
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 3: It's like, I mean, I just somewhat flabbergasted honestly by

1028
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,519
this booking, Like why would you have Mike Bailey put

1029
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:27,760
this guy over? And then he loses again. He doesn't

1030
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,199
even lose to a star, like you know, he loses

1031
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,000
to another guy like exactly on his level, like he's

1032
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,199
in the same training class as him. So I was like, what, why,

1033
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,599
why did you bother to tell us JUNI was anything

1034
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:39,920
at all?

1035
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna do that, have him

1036
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,679
lose to as you mentioned, someone more established or someone

1037
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:51,639
because now it just looks like he's just not very good.

1038
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 3: He really if Mike Bailey's gonna come out and give

1039
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,079
a guy a pep talk like that, then the guy

1040
00:57:58,199 --> 00:57:59,960
really should win his next match.

1041
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would that would make sense.

1042
00:58:04,119 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: That this is like, I mean, this is I'm like,

1043
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,199
what do you do with him here? Unless see, I

1044
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:10,880
guess he could get like super frustrated and turn heel.

1045
00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:13,679
Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, that that was my assumption that he

1046
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,239
you know, he can accept kind of losing to Alex Price,

1047
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,519
that's his trainer. But you know, he lost to his

1048
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,679
tag team partner, and that's gonna make him maybe change

1049
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:27,280
his approach. Yeah, but again, you know, we're we're fantasy

1050
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,239
booking on the fly here. Hopefully they actually show that storyline.

1051
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:39,679
Mm hmm. Next, we had basically a detailed video explaining

1052
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:41,960
how we got to the main event. As Justin and

1053
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,039
I mentioned, when we first heard about this match about

1054
00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:46,840
a month ago, we were highly anticipating it. And here

1055
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,159
we are the JCW Championship. Charles Mason is your champion,

1056
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,360
defending against Baron Bronson. Charles Mason comes out, he gives

1057
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,719
this really long promo talking about that he's going to

1058
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,840
be a champion. H he's a Leavers champion. I was

1059
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,039
kind of suspicious because he came out first and the

1060
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:07,719
champion very rarely comes up first.

1061
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: Well at first. He also said that Bear Bronson was

1062
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,360
not there. Yes, that's true, and that he said Bronson

1063
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:16,280
had a back injury.

1064
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,119
Speaker 2: So yes, Mary keithle So I thought maybe Bronson was

1065
00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:24,760
attacked in the back or something, or he'd come out limping. No,

1066
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,559
it came out with the trash can. Yeah, I didn't

1067
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:30,199
notice a limp. I'd assume he didn't have one.

1068
00:59:31,159 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: No, but I do based on what happened, I wonder

1069
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,440
if he really did have a back injury.

1070
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: They end up brawling on the outside for several minutes.

1071
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,480
Bronson ended up shoving Mace's head into the ring post,

1072
00:59:50,519 --> 00:59:52,960
and but finally they get back in the ring. The

1073
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:56,000
crowds really excited, we're gonna have a We're finally having

1074
00:59:56,039 --> 01:00:00,519
the match started, end up fighting and Slave ran in

1075
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,719
for the disqualification at one minute and fifteen seconds, sorry,

1076
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:11,239
thirteen seconds. He hit Bronson with a chair and they

1077
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,480
beat up Bronson. They close line the referee. Everyone's cheering

1078
01:00:15,599 --> 01:00:20,000
for Gabby. Forza takes a lot. I thought took a

1079
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:22,159
while to get out there. By finally you get out

1080
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:30,079
there and attacked Mason. But they're overwhelmed by Slade and Mason.

1081
01:00:30,199 --> 01:00:34,039
They duct taped Gabby to the ropes, and Mason got

1082
01:00:34,039 --> 01:00:37,880
a bunch of plyers and cut off their wedding rings

1083
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,239
and put them on and taunted them, and then Slade

1084
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,599
hit ronson with the chair and that was pretty much it.

1085
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,039
So Bear Bronson is your winner. In one minute and

1086
01:00:50,159 --> 01:00:54,880
thirteen seconds, he does not become the new JCW champion.

1087
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:58,440
And I assume the match that we were looking forward

1088
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,599
to is just a setup for a tag team match.

1089
01:01:01,719 --> 01:01:05,480
Angle well, I mean I hope it's.

1090
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,039
Speaker 3: Yes, they'll they'll do a tag team match for sure,

1091
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:11,519
but maybe they'll also hopefully they come back to this match.

1092
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:18,800
I guess I wonder if Bear really does have a

1093
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,239
hurt back, because it just seemed to like come out

1094
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,599
of nowhere and they brawled a lot. But Bear really

1095
01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:28,519
didn't do anything that would I think be overly hard

1096
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:30,159
on his back. You know, you didn't really. I don't

1097
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:32,480
think he threw any like soup flexes or slams.

1098
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 2: He didn't.

1099
01:01:33,679 --> 01:01:35,079
Speaker 3: I mean mostly it was just like a lot of

1100
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:38,880
punching and kind of throwing people around by their heads

1101
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,880
so they were in into things. So trying to give

1102
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,199
him a little wheelay that Okay, you know, maybe it

1103
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,360
was hurt. So this was the best they could do,

1104
01:01:47,719 --> 01:01:50,519
was just this like try to do like a crazy

1105
01:01:52,239 --> 01:01:56,239
ten minute ish brawl without you know, actually being the match.

1106
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,840
It's like, darn if I had not had my expectations raised.

1107
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,880
This was actually like a pretty good angle, I think,

1108
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,239
like to attack this married couple and steal their wedding rings.

1109
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,440
It's like kind of like a crazy Charles Mason Engle.

1110
01:02:11,719 --> 01:02:14,599
Speaker 2: So did you did you hope those were like their

1111
01:02:14,639 --> 01:02:15,679
fake rings? Oh?

1112
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 3: I hope they were fake rings. Yeah, But I was

1113
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:20,760
also like, why do you need flyers?

1114
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:21,039
Speaker 2: Do you know?

1115
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 3: Like mine pops off all the time?

1116
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1117
01:02:26,159 --> 01:02:29,119
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, like I'll just like spin

1118
01:02:29,199 --> 01:02:32,280
it around her stuff. I hope. Yeah, I really really

1119
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,280
hope those were not their real rings. That's that's a

1120
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,440
that's a level of realism you don't need to take.

1121
01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: Admit it.

1122
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,679
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01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,480
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Speaker 2: My thing is, if he can't, why didn't they have

1141
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:33,519
him like attacked in the back. Why didn't they do

1142
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:36,559
like I don't know, like why start the match? Then?

1143
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:39,199
I mean, you could have had the same angle that Bronxon.

1144
01:03:39,199 --> 01:03:40,719
You could have done all those things and not have

1145
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,400
them wrestle. Say he attacked them to the back, maybe

1146
01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:49,280
Slade carried him out, carries him out there or something,

1147
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,000
and they never have a match because of it. I

1148
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:51,559
just feel like.

1149
01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: Honestly, I would didn't even matter. I was like, at

1150
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,960
least we got something, I guess, but I had to

1151
01:03:58,039 --> 01:04:00,440
do this whole show and they didn't even like and

1152
01:04:00,519 --> 01:04:04,039
they see like a brawl of that. Oh my gosh,

1153
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,840
we've been kicked off the Daily The Torch Daily Cast

1154
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,280
Network for my profanity seven.

1155
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 2: Thinking about it is but if you're not but if

1156
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,000
you're not gonna have a match, because ultimately you're not

1157
01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:20,880
having a match, isn't it better to have a full angle?

1158
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,239
Because to me, it's like, why didn't again, why didn't

1159
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,559
Slade run out there and attack him any from the beginning?

1160
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:29,400
Like why did he wait until they got in the ring?

1161
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,719
What if you know, Bron had the best the better

1162
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,400
of Mason for a lot of that. What if Brons

1163
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,760
ended up knocking him out or something? Yeah, I mean

1164
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,760
that's that's that's that's the part for me, that's the struggle. Yeah,

1165
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:46,719
because I mean, I guess I.

1166
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 3: Think their idea is we can't really do this match,

1167
01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:53,440
but we've we've advertised, what is it kind of a

1168
01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:56,360
big match? So well, at least they're trying to give

1169
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:01,920
the fans something. Yeah, really, you know, if it's a

1170
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,800
bad you know, a bad situation.

1171
01:05:06,159 --> 01:05:09,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get that. I totally get that it's

1172
01:05:09,679 --> 01:05:16,039
better than it's better than, but nothing. But I just

1173
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:19,159
feel like, if you're gonna do an angle, I guess

1174
01:05:19,239 --> 01:05:20,679
in my mind, I guess just kind of a person

1175
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,400
if you're gonna do an angle anyway, and you're not

1176
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,880
gonna do a match, because the thought process is this

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01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:27,760
match can end at any time. If you don't do

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these things, you might as well just have it be

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pure angle.

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Speaker 3: I think my other problem is it's like almost exactly

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like what's going on with Vipress and the Savage Gnomes

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and Vandal forty eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess with the Vipress because the only

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thing I was like, because Cowboy Way War involves maybe

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they're not an Anakin Murphy's been involved, so maybe in

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their mind they don't see this entirely. Like the Savage

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Gnomes are only involved certain moments, they're not involved in

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the entire feud. I mean maybe, yeah, grasping for straws here,

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but like they it's also I mean, it's.

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Speaker 3: All like, you know, somebody gets tied. It's it's like

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somebody's tied in the ropes in like a man terrorizing

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a woman like it's very very similar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, that was the show ended. Jessey Champions

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Wrestling in Our House available on Triller TV. The first

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hour available on YouTube. As Justin and I mentioned earlier,

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we were really looking forward to one match on the show.

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That match didn't really happen for whatever reason. Hopefully they

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revisited later on. I feel like you spent a lot

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of time building up this match, and they had promos

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on the two j c W shows we watched the

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two proious weekends. You want more from it. But other

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than that really putting that bach aside, the rest of

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the show was kind of lack luster. You had some

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matches that were glorified squash matches, matches that went too long,

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and a lot of questions in my mind of where

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h j c W is going next.

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Speaker 3: I guess to me, I was very disappointed. But it's

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also a big question of like what is j CW

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like even supposed to be, you know, like it's it's

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sort of like GCW's like minor League, but they still

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use I mean a tremendous they still share like a

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lot of the same talent and a lot of like

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all the main guys still just wrestle on GCW. Anyway,

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It's not really a feeder system. It just seems like

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like it's it's very reminiscent of like Ring of Honor.

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Is it's just like kind of like auxiliary and you know,

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occasionally like the big guys get brought up to like GCW,

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but they you storylines. But it's because you don't call

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it GCW. It draws like a couple hundred people to

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this like one room in New Jersey, Like why not?

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Speaker 5: Like what? What?

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Speaker 3: Why is it?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: Why not just have more j c you know, why

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not just make it a GCW show or why do

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you even need it at all?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And I feel, to be fair, that's kind of

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a new phenomenon. I don't feel that GCW, sorry j

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CW back in the day or when we covered it

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more last year was like that. I felt that it

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was a different it was a different promotion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's much more division.

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Speaker 2: Is it the same because it's the same weekend as

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other shows in the area or other shows going on,

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they couldn't get certain wrestlers. I'm not quite sure. I

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wonder you know, they have another show coming. I think

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Labor Day weekend. So I'm you know, I don't know

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if we're going to cover that show or not, but

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I'm very interested to see what the card it is,

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just to see what the follow up from this might be,

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because I feel like there are a lot of questions

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that need to be answered. Yes, I agree, but again,

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if you want to watch that show, it is available

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on Triller and the first hour or so is available

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on YouTube. Next week, Justin and I are going to

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cover a show that is returning, a television show available

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on YouTube. That's MLW Fusion, which MLW had been doing

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just sort of pay per views and have now gone

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back to a TV product. We haven't covered them in

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a couple of years, and they haven't been existing for

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a couple of years. So we're gonna get back to

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that and we're gonna cover that next week on Wrestling

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Coast to Coast. This week for our VIP listeners, we're

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gonna be covering a one match from Alpha One Wrestling

1255
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Promotion we haven't covered before but we may cover in

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the future, and is the Alpha One Wrestling Tag Team

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champions Chip match between the Verdicts, Bryce Dot and Vinisa

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Galisi versus Jake christ and Rich swan out a revolver

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into Canada. We will see how that goes and we'll

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cover that for our vi P listeners. Before we get

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to that, Justin, do you have any plugs?

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Speaker 3: Well is always we'd love to hear from our listeners,

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