1
00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:23,480
Speaker 1: Baby, you were listening to Petlifradio dot com.

2
00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,879
Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon to everyone out there.

3
00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,879
Speaker 3: This is doctor Jeff Warber just joining you live with

4
00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:34,119
another ndition of Astaveets with doctor Jeff here on that's

5
00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,119
Talk Pets pet Life Radio. So you know, you know,

6
00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,000
first of all, I had a fun time. I'm gonna

7
00:00:41,039 --> 00:00:42,719
we're gonna put something up on the website for you.

8
00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:46,280
I was actually in New York this past weekend. I

9
00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,439
got a call on Thursday, so this was not easy planning,

10
00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,359
but they wanted to me in New York to do

11
00:00:51,399 --> 00:00:55,560
a live segment on the weekend edition of Fox and

12
00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,600
Friends with the new host Tucker Carlson, who is great

13
00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,880
and who, by the way, is a major, major pet lover.

14
00:01:02,079 --> 00:01:04,959
He has an English Springer Spaniel and an English Cocker

15
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,200
Spaniel pure English Cocker, and those are just beautiful dogs.

16
00:01:08,439 --> 00:01:11,280
And we did a segment on the number one nutritional

17
00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,439
disease affecting pets, and for those of you that don't know,

18
00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,799
that is obesity. Over fifty percent of dogs and cats

19
00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000
in the United States are overweight.

20
00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,319
Speaker 2: That equates to.

21
00:01:22,239 --> 00:01:26,959
Speaker 3: About ninety three million overweight dogs and cats. That's a

22
00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,120
lot of overweight pets and what's funny is about seventy

23
00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,400
five percent of them belong to owners who themselves could

24
00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,280
lose a few, which really it lends an interesting question.

25
00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,840
And I always you know, we talked to veterinarians and

26
00:01:39,079 --> 00:01:40,680
you know, why is it such a problem and why

27
00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,120
do veterinarians have such a difficult time educating their clients

28
00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,319
about obesity? And the reason is simple. They're afraid to

29
00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,359
talk to someone who is clearly overweight about the pets

30
00:01:52,359 --> 00:01:55,159
that are overweight, for fear, and this is self made

31
00:01:55,239 --> 00:01:58,680
fear that the client is going to know that as

32
00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,400
you're talking of the pet, you're actually talking about them.

33
00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:05,280
Speaker 2: So to avoid the uncomfortable.

34
00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:07,879
Speaker 3: Situation, they choose not to talk about it at all,

35
00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,599
which of course is really not healthy for the pet. Oh,

36
00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,039
we had a great segment, so we're gonna go ahead

37
00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:15,199
and put up the link. It was on the weekend

38
00:02:15,319 --> 00:02:17,800
edition of Fox and Friends on May fifth, on Sinco

39
00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,919
Demayo about fat pooches, So hopefully you'll have a chance

40
00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,000
to log on, give us, you know, a little time

41
00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,240
to put that thing up and view the segment and went.

42
00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:27,240
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun.

43
00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,000
Speaker 3: So as we get started, as you know, we're live

44
00:02:30,199 --> 00:02:33,599
where the only live show, the only call in show

45
00:02:34,039 --> 00:02:36,840
on pet Life Radio. So we need to hear from you,

46
00:02:37,159 --> 00:02:39,199
So give me a call at eight seven seven three

47
00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,240
eight five eight eight eight two once again eight seven

48
00:02:42,319 --> 00:02:43,599
seven three eight five.

49
00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:46,240
Speaker 2: Eight eight eight two. We'd love to get your questions.

50
00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,879
Speaker 3: And if you're a little shy and you don't want

51
00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,639
to talk to me on the phone, go ahead and

52
00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:53,280
send me a quick email to doctor Jeff at Petlife

53
00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,840
Radio dot com. That's Drjff at Petlife Radio dot com.

54
00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:59,439
I will see the email and of course I will

55
00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:03,360
answer your questions. So also, I could not be here

56
00:03:03,439 --> 00:03:07,120
without our sponsor, and that is Pro Sense Pet Products.

57
00:03:07,199 --> 00:03:12,879
These are veterinary approved pet products that are basically from me,

58
00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:16,840
and they are available at your local mass retailers, a

59
00:03:16,879 --> 00:03:19,240
lot of specials at Walmart Target. If you want to

60
00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,639
find some really good products, you can head up to Walmart.

61
00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,919
You go online and they actually have some really good

62
00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:29,159
coupons for the Pro Sense pet products. So I wanted

63
00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:31,879
to share a cute little story while you guys are

64
00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:34,759
getting the courage to give me a call, and it's

65
00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,039
about a patient of mine that we sent home yesterday

66
00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,080
and I have to tell you and I took some

67
00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,759
pictures and I think I'm going to write a little

68
00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,319
blog on this on Pet Health Network, which is a

69
00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,039
network that I write for, and it's about this little dog,

70
00:03:48,439 --> 00:03:52,439
a Jack Russell Terrier mail fourteen years old, actually pushing

71
00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,280
fifteen years of age. That was literally and I mean

72
00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:01,960
literally run over by his owner. And no, not purposely.

73
00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,439
I know you knew that one. He was actually taking

74
00:04:04,439 --> 00:04:07,039
a little nap and to avoid the sun, and we

75
00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,280
had a hot couple of days in La last week.

76
00:04:09,479 --> 00:04:12,960
He decided to run for some cover and find some

77
00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,920
shade under the car sitting right behind a tire, and

78
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,920
the owner went to her closed driveway, opened up the gate,

79
00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,959
got in the car, not seeing good old Rollo sleeping

80
00:04:25,319 --> 00:04:30,199
comfortably resting peacefully under the car, and decided to back up.

81
00:04:30,319 --> 00:04:33,360
And she actually thought that one of her kids left

82
00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:36,120
like a toy or part of the tricycle under the car.

83
00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,480
I mean she actually felt the car go up and

84
00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:41,560
over something. She got out of the car to look

85
00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,560
and there was Rollo clearly sandwich to the ground. Well,

86
00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,800
she runs to an emergency. They did some emergency treatment.

87
00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,680
This happened early in the evening and brings Rollo to

88
00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,959
us the very next day, and I'm telling you, Rollo

89
00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,399
was one unhappy dog. He could not get up. We

90
00:04:57,399 --> 00:05:00,800
were fearing the worst. I mean the amount problems that

91
00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,920
could have happened, you can fill a book and ranging

92
00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:06,519
from very serious problems like a ruptured bladder, like a

93
00:05:06,519 --> 00:05:10,360
broken spine, broken pelvis, broken back, legs. I mean, the

94
00:05:10,399 --> 00:05:14,079
car ran over the hind end, Rollo's hind end, and miraculously,

95
00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,279
and I mean miraculously, there appeared to be none of

96
00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:20,920
those X rays were clean. The body wall was totally

97
00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,160
torn open, creating a huge hernia. We really had no

98
00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:28,360
idea how large the hernia was, but we prepared for

99
00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:31,480
the worst. And once we got Rollo stable, probably about

100
00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,639
five six days later, where his color was coming back,

101
00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:38,240
we treated him for the shock. He was on antibiotics,

102
00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,680
he was on supportive care, started doing better each day,

103
00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,160
started to eat, was in tremendous discomfort. He was on

104
00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,120
pain meds. We had our surgeon go in and could

105
00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,600
not repair the body wall. It was just so badly destroyed.

106
00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,399
But he was able to place an intestinal abdominal mesh.

107
00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,199
It's like a mesh material that acts as the body wall.

108
00:05:58,199 --> 00:06:01,199
The body wall starts to heal around them and in

109
00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,759
time basically creates a new fake body. Wall Well, I

110
00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:07,680
gotta tell you, yesterday we sent Rollo home and this

111
00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,639
dog was running and jumping. You'd never know that Rollo

112
00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:13,319
was pushed in fifteen. It was going to be fifteen

113
00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,560
next month. And it was truly a miracle that this

114
00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:20,680
dog had such a will to beat these odds, and

115
00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,160
how this dog was so lucky that of all the serious,

116
00:06:25,519 --> 00:06:30,560
potentially fatal complications he pulled through with flying colors. And

117
00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,560
I think the second biggest pain I think was poor

118
00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:36,800
Mom's purse. But other than that, Rollo is just doing

119
00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,680
great and so happy. We know these are the cases,

120
00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,959
you know, I often say, regardless of how good we

121
00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,959
are as veterinarians, now, regardless of how great you think

122
00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,519
your veterinarian is, the truth of the matter is that

123
00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,199
most of our cases are going to get well in

124
00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,079
spite of us, not because of us. And I got

125
00:06:54,079 --> 00:06:56,560
to tell you this is one where we really felt

126
00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,000
that we had a very very important hand and saving

127
00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:01,839
Rollo's life.

128
00:07:01,959 --> 00:07:03,360
Speaker 2: And when you send a case like that home, you

129
00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:04,120
just feel great.

130
00:07:04,199 --> 00:07:07,480
Speaker 3: And anyway, I got some great after pictures of Rollo,

131
00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:12,279
and uh, he's just one remarkable dog anyway, so still

132
00:07:12,279 --> 00:07:13,079
want to hear from you.

133
00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,879
Speaker 2: Eight seven seven three eight five eight eight eight two.

134
00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,439
Speaker 3: We had a bunch of questions on the website and

135
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,199
people that send me questions to doctor Jeff that petlife

136
00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:23,439
radio dot com. And one of them I had to

137
00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:25,519
chuckle and you'll hear why in a minute. But it's

138
00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:28,199
because it really it's message for me so close to home.

139
00:07:28,399 --> 00:07:30,759
And that is that a woman writes and she asks

140
00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,480
about her Labrador retriever who's been having some and again

141
00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:35,959
this is you know, this is doctor talk.

142
00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:36,879
Speaker 2: We have to talk about this.

143
00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,279
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's happened to all of you at some point,

144
00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,800
and if not, depending on the breed, and it's especially

145
00:07:41,839 --> 00:07:43,720
if you have a puppy, it's going to happen. And

146
00:07:43,759 --> 00:07:49,279
that is that he has been experiencing some very mushy stool.

147
00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,519
I know, I don't know why. In the veinary world

148
00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,040
we tend to actually trying to draw a mental picture

149
00:07:55,079 --> 00:07:58,480
for our clients as to what things look like. And

150
00:07:58,759 --> 00:08:01,680
one of the descriptive terms we use for stool, is.

151
00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,360
Speaker 2: It like firm? All right?

152
00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,000
Speaker 3: Is it kind of holds shape kind of like a

153
00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:06,720
cow patty?

154
00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,120
Speaker 2: Is it kind of mush.

155
00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,079
Speaker 3: She doesn't really hold the shape after a while, like

156
00:08:10,279 --> 00:08:13,680
soft served ice cream too ultimately watery, no.

157
00:08:13,759 --> 00:08:14,360
Speaker 2: Shape at all.

158
00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,480
Speaker 3: And this was described by the owner as being mucus

159
00:08:17,519 --> 00:08:20,040
see cowpatty like, so sort of I was able to

160
00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:22,439
draw a mental image, a picture in my mind of

161
00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,000
just what this stool look like. And with mucus and

162
00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,040
sometimes little blood, I knew right away that this is

163
00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,360
a colitis. It's a large bowel inflammation, and typically with

164
00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,320
large bowel inflammations, it's not a serious problem. And I

165
00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,320
usually tell people that I know oftentimes these things look

166
00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,039
worse than they are and they're really not that bad.

167
00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:43,000
And there's a kind of a long list of things

168
00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:45,440
I go through to try to determine if I'm on

169
00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,360
the right track, if this really is just a colitis,

170
00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,440
And those are the following nerves excitement, diet, diet change,

171
00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,360
eating something that he or she shouldn't have, like, you know,

172
00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,639
getting a hold of something outside a true poison or

173
00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,399
of course we can't forget parasites, though often this happens

174
00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,879
in older adult dogs, and we don't think of parasites

175
00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:05,759
as much as we would say if it was a puppy. Well,

176
00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:08,960
the dog in the questions question happens to be a labrador?

177
00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,080
Now I am the proud pop too us. I like

178
00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,919
to say two and a half labradors, because I have

179
00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,639
two labradors and one labradoodle. And the hallmark of a

180
00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,919
labrador is that they will eat anything that's not bolted

181
00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,759
down or does eat them first. And a lot of

182
00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:24,639
times when animals come in or you're talking to somebody

183
00:09:24,639 --> 00:09:26,120
on the phone and they're complaining about they're pet is

184
00:09:26,159 --> 00:09:28,639
sick or as they say, adr ain't doing right, and

185
00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:30,600
I often one of the first quests I ask is

186
00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:33,919
how's his appetite? And typically a dog who's still eating

187
00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,080
is usually not as sick as a dog who no

188
00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:36,919
longer wants to eat.

189
00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,080
Speaker 2: Well, that's one question you.

190
00:09:38,039 --> 00:09:41,440
Speaker 3: Really can't ask about a labrador, because I've seen labradors

191
00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:44,639
that are quite literally on a deathbed, and yet when

192
00:09:44,639 --> 00:09:47,000
it comes to food, they'll somehow manage to eat. And

193
00:09:47,039 --> 00:09:50,360
sure enough, this lab we call it garbage can enteritis.

194
00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:53,519
The owner actually has to tape up the garbage can

195
00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:56,159
and put like those you know, those bicycles stretchy things

196
00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:59,759
over the garbage can lid to keep it closed. Because

197
00:09:59,799 --> 00:10:02,240
the learned how to get the garbage can lit off,

198
00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,919
so they're very resourceful. Anyway, sure enough, it was a

199
00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,519
lab dietary indiscretion. Garbage can't enterritis. Call it what you will,

200
00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,720
and we were able to treat it. And I recommend

201
00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:14,519
for a lot of these cases. If you have a

202
00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,759
pet that has kind of mushy, ugly mucacy, even sometimes

203
00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:23,960
bloody stool that is otherwise perfect, happy, eating, playful, all

204
00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:26,840
of the above, then what I recommend instead of panicking

205
00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,879
and rushing to go to the doctor and spending a

206
00:10:28,879 --> 00:10:31,440
small fortune, sometimes a big fortune, depending on where you go,

207
00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:34,360
try this. Try putting them on a little bland food

208
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,840
for a couple of days and added fiber. Now, one

209
00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,679
thing I want to specify. When we talk about bland

210
00:10:39,759 --> 00:10:44,080
food for a small intestinal upset, we think about a

211
00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,600
using some rice, white rice, which is very binding and

212
00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,120
it's and so that's really good for small intestinal diarrhea

213
00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,720
that's very very watery. When it comes to large vowel diarrhea,

214
00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,120
you want to think about the opposite. You want to

215
00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,279
think about fiber, brand brand flakes, cooked oatmeal, cilium, metamucil, powder.

216
00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,840
Can't things that are actually less binding. You want to

217
00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,759
almost encase the ingestu in something that's sort of soft,

218
00:11:06,759 --> 00:11:08,399
and it's going to help it move through the colon

219
00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,840
more easily, giving the chance the coal and the chance

220
00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:12,840
to heal. And when it does, it'll start doing what

221
00:11:12,919 --> 00:11:15,879
it does best, and that is the last bit of absorption,

222
00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:18,679
reabsorption of the fluid coming in. It'll firm up the stool,

223
00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,679
it'll stop the mucus, and it kind of that's the tricks.

224
00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,360
So before you panic and run to the dock, as

225
00:11:24,399 --> 00:11:26,799
long as everything else is fine, try that first. Add

226
00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,840
a little fiber, a couple of tablespoon spending on the

227
00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,679
size of the dog with every meal and that that

228
00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,200
should help tremendously. So other than that, that's good way

229
00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,759
to go. But it's a really common problem and we

230
00:11:36,759 --> 00:11:38,600
see it so much in puppies. And the only thing,

231
00:11:38,639 --> 00:11:40,200
as I said, i'd like to ask that list of

232
00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,039
possibilities and puppies would be parasites. So anyway, we'll be

233
00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:47,200
right back here at pet Life Radio, and you're here

234
00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,120
online with doctor Jeff.

235
00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,639
Speaker 4: We'll be right back right after these messages.

236
00:11:55,759 --> 00:11:56,399
Speaker 2: Stay tuned.

237
00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:03,039
Speaker 5: Are you crazy about cats? If so, check out The

238
00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,759
World Is Your Litter Box Deluxe Edition. This clever how

239
00:12:06,799 --> 00:12:09,799
to Manual for Cats, written by a cat named Quasi,

240
00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,519
contains more laughs than should be allowable in one book

241
00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:18,519
and is poigningly underscored by the combative yet loving relationship

242
00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,039
between Quasi and his union. The World is Your Litter

243
00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,799
Box Deluxe Edition is guaranteed to have you laugh in

244
00:12:25,879 --> 00:12:29,440
your tail off, so treat yourself to a copy today,

245
00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,559
available from Amazon.

246
00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,039
Speaker 2: Hi.

247
00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:36,120
Speaker 6: This is Tim Link, animal communicator and pet expert and

248
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,240
host of animal rights on Pet Life Radio. Have you

249
00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,600
ever wanted to know what your pet is really thinking?

250
00:12:41,799 --> 00:12:43,799
Do you want to find out if they truly understand

251
00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:45,679
what you're trying to tell them, or wish you could

252
00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,519
build a better understanding and closer relationship with your pet,

253
00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:51,559
Well now you can. Learning to Communicate with Animals is

254
00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,480
a four part on demand workshop. In the workshop, you'll

255
00:12:54,519 --> 00:12:57,799
learn the essential techniques that are necessary to communicate with animals,

256
00:12:57,879 --> 00:13:01,759
including one is animal communication, breathing correctly to achieve the

257
00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:04,120
perfect state, to communicate with your animals at a deeper

258
00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,320
level using guided meditation exercises and method to communicate with animals,

259
00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,480
and how to send and receive information from your animals.

260
00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,960
So if you're wanting to learn how to communicate and

261
00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,679
connect with your animals at a deeper level. Visit Petlife

262
00:13:16,759 --> 00:13:20,120
Radio dot com or Slash Workshop and purchase and download

263
00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:21,879
Learning to Communicate with Animals.

264
00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,399
Speaker 4: You'll be glad you did. Dog Shelter Blues, the new

265
00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,080
novel by Mark Conkling. This heart hitting story lights up

266
00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,759
the world of animal rescue with engaging characters and their

267
00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:37,840
pets struggling with their own internal demons as they attempt

268
00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,720
to rescue innocent creatures that sometimes bring a mysterious transforming

269
00:13:42,799 --> 00:13:46,639
power to broken lives. Read the first chapter of Dog

270
00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:51,039
Shelter Blues free at Dogshelterblues dot com. Then come along

271
00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,879
a breath taking journey that ends with an astonishing triumph

272
00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,480
of good over evil. Order your copy of Dog Shelter

273
00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:07,039
Blues today at Amazon dot com and Barnesandnoble dot com.

274
00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,720
Speaker 7: Hi, this is Marcy Davis and my service dog Whistle,

275
00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,279
and we're your hosts of Working Like Dogs on Pet

276
00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,200
Life Radio. Working Like Dogs is the show where you

277
00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,480
can learn everything you ever wanted to know about working

278
00:14:20,559 --> 00:14:23,559
animals or working dogs. Whether you're a member of a

279
00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,600
working dog team or you've just seen a working dog

280
00:14:26,759 --> 00:14:29,320
or animal out at the mall or the grocery store,

281
00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,960
and you're curious about how these amazing animals work with

282
00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,879
their human partners. Been Working Like Dogs is the show

283
00:14:35,919 --> 00:14:39,240
for you. Join us for the inside scoop at Working

284
00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:45,519
Like Dogs on Petlife Radio dot com.

285
00:14:46,279 --> 00:14:50,200
Speaker 8: Let's talk past Let's Pet about Life Radio Headline Radio,

286
00:14:50,679 --> 00:15:14,159
Petlight Radio dot com.

287
00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,559
Speaker 3: Well, welcome back to Let's Talk pet Book Doctor Jeff.

288
00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,519
Speaker 2: I'm doctor Jeff.

289
00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:22,600
Speaker 3: Werber here after a little extended break. The computers are great,

290
00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,879
aren't they, But with their occasional technical difficulties doing a

291
00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:30,720
show long distance, I think things like this just sometimes happen.

292
00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,799
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're back. That's the good news. Once again.

293
00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,639
Speaker 3: I want to thank our sponsors pro Sense Pet Products

294
00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,840
veterinary quality pet products available to you over the counter.

295
00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:43,919
Save yourselves a little money, get some really great stuff

296
00:15:44,159 --> 00:15:48,000
with process pet products available at your local retailers and

297
00:15:48,159 --> 00:15:50,960
always Walmart has some great specialists. Go online to Walmart

298
00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,600
dot com and you get some coupons for some good

299
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,120
pro Sense products. Anyway, for our break, we were talking

300
00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,240
about Rick's dog in Riverside, California, who has the Great

301
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,120
Tane two year old Great Tane that when he would

302
00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,120
wag his tail so hard that the tail, the tip

303
00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,879
of the tail would start bleeding. And first of all,

304
00:16:07,919 --> 00:16:10,519
we see this in a lot of dogs. We see

305
00:16:10,519 --> 00:16:13,080
this in the These are dogs that have that long tail.

306
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,240
Dalmatians are notorious. Certainly great Danes are notorious dogs that

307
00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,240
have these, even like docsins, any dog that has a long, skinny,

308
00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,639
skinny tail and very very short coat where they have

309
00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,879
very thin skin at the base of the tail and

310
00:16:26,919 --> 00:16:29,080
I mean the tip of the tail and it's unfortunately

311
00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,799
there's very little padding there. And the bummer is for

312
00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,559
this is that it is so difficult to get this

313
00:16:35,639 --> 00:16:38,600
to stop. Why because first of all, it's very hard

314
00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,080
to wrap a tail because the tail. Think of an

315
00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,759
eating an ice cream cone, right, and you know the cone,

316
00:16:43,879 --> 00:16:46,440
and the farther down you go towards the bottom, the

317
00:16:46,519 --> 00:16:49,320
narrow it gets. And even though they sometimes when you

318
00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,840
buy an ice cream cone, they put them into those

319
00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,320
little cone shaped sleeves, but you know how easily they

320
00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:56,519
just falls right out of the sleeve because because there's

321
00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:58,440
nothing to hold it on, it's not whiter at the

322
00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,080
bottom and actually continues to get narrow. That's the same

323
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,599
as a tail. Secondly, so when you have a wrap

324
00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,240
on the tail. If they wag your tail a lot

325
00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:07,880
of times, the rap is going to fall off. Something

326
00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,240
we'll do is we'll take the plastic casing of a syringe.

327
00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:15,200
You know those little disposable syringes we often use in practice.

328
00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,400
I'm sure you've seen them when you've taken your pets

329
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,559
to the doctor. And so we'll take one of those

330
00:17:19,559 --> 00:17:22,799
plastic sleeves, slide it over the tip of the tail,

331
00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,200
and then take a ton of tape and tape the

332
00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,839
sleeve to the tail. So at least now when they

333
00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:30,759
wag their tail, they're hitting the hard plastic. I'm not

334
00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:32,839
hitting the tail, but I'm telling you I have had

335
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,000
many cases over the years where this has become such

336
00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:41,359
a nuisance or a continuing recurring problem that we've actually

337
00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,079
been forced to amputate the tip of the tail, cut

338
00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,119
the tail back, make it shorter by about four or

339
00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,759
five vertebrae, just to help prevent this and to let

340
00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:54,160
this thing heal once and for all, because they are

341
00:17:54,319 --> 00:17:57,680
such a bear to heal. So what I would recommend

342
00:17:57,759 --> 00:18:00,680
doing for Rick is trying to wrap it. Can try

343
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,960
the syringe case plastic to put over the tip of

344
00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,480
the tail. Somehow keeping your dog away from hard walls

345
00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:09,200
when he is wagging his tail.

346
00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:09,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

347
00:18:09,759 --> 00:18:12,119
Speaker 3: You want to almost like you want to put him

348
00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,720
into like cushioned lined walls, almost like the dog is

349
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,680
in a looney bin or something. You know, we call

350
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,480
it a padded cell. If you can come out somehow

351
00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,880
come up with a padded room, then hopefully he'll do better.

352
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,599
But sorry to here, Rick, It's not a serious problem.

353
00:18:27,759 --> 00:18:30,759
It's more of a nuisance problem than anything else. So

354
00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,640
once again we're here waiting to hear from you. I'm

355
00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,920
doctor Jeff Werber, asked the vets with doctor Jeff here

356
00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,519
on pet life Radio dot com. Let's talk pets. The

357
00:18:38,599 --> 00:18:40,880
number here to reach me eight seven seven three eight

358
00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,039
five eight eight eight two. I do want to see

359
00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:46,920
that those phones lighting up. You can also send me

360
00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,160
a quick email to doctor Jeff at petlife Radio dot

361
00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,000
com and I will be happy to answer your calls online.

362
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,480
I am, let's see. I'm just looking at some of

363
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,200
the emails that we do get. Fortunately, some people aren't

364
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,240
as shy as some others, and they do send us emails.

365
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 2: Ah, here's one.

366
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,119
Speaker 3: This came from Ray in Madison, Wisconsin, who is calling

367
00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,680
about his twelve year old cheetsu who has a bad teeth,

368
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,240
and Ray is afraid to have him anesthetized for teeth

369
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,079
cleaning because he's concerned about the danger. At this age,

370
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,240
you want to know if there's a spray for the teeth.

371
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,920
And here's some of the realities. First of all, once

372
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,319
plaque turns into tartar. Now plaque is more or less

373
00:19:31,319 --> 00:19:34,400
of a film that is left on teeth, say after

374
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,440
a meal, and it's a mixture of food particles, some bacteria,

375
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,960
some uncalcified minerals to breathe us left in the mouth.

376
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,279
And this is why we recommend so frequently that no

377
00:19:48,279 --> 00:19:50,720
matter what you're going to do for oral care, far

378
00:19:50,759 --> 00:19:53,200
and away, the best thing to do is brush your

379
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,480
pet's teeth. Get him used to it. It's really not

380
00:19:55,519 --> 00:19:57,880
that difficult. You can start with a finger brush. You

381
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,640
can start with a finger put a little of the

382
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,319
really cool poultry flavored or for a cat fish flavored.

383
00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,279
The dentifersh toothpaste, non sudging. They can swallow it, put

384
00:20:07,279 --> 00:20:08,960
it on your finger, rub it inside the mouth, Do

385
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,440
it just before a meal, just before walk, just before playtime.

386
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,160
So they get used to it and make it fun,

387
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,440
make the process fun, and by doing so, they won't

388
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,039
object so much to the act of having their teeth brushed.

389
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,799
But something that's critical because we need to get rid

390
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:28,279
of that plaque. The problem is that once the plaque

391
00:20:28,319 --> 00:20:32,559
mineralizes to become what we call tartar or calculus, now

392
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,599
we have a problem, Houston. We have a problem because

393
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,000
brushing at this point is worthless. If you don't get

394
00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,720
this plaque off, this film off before it hardens it mineralizes.

395
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,559
Then the only way to get it off really is

396
00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:50,400
through professional dental cleaning, which of course so many people

397
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,200
are afraid of. So obviously, as with many many conditions

398
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,680
that we deal with in Verney medicine, the best treatment

399
00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:01,920
actually is prevention. So now, Ray in Madison, Wisconsin, we

400
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,880
have an issue here because now your twelve year old

401
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,640
cheetsu has some heavy duty tartar on the teeth and

402
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,880
they do need to be professionally cleaned. What do you do, Well,

403
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,000
there are a lot of places, mostly well groomors for sure,

404
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,559
and some services out there that claim, and I'm going

405
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,839
to put that in capital letters, claim they can do

406
00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:27,880
a thorough teeth cleaning without any anesthesia first of all,

407
00:21:28,279 --> 00:21:33,720
and according to many state veterinary practice codes, that might

408
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,039
be against the law. Check with your states. But in

409
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,079
certain states and it should be most states, if a

410
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,519
non veterinarian takes a metallic instrument and scrapes away tartar

411
00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:49,839
from the teeth under the teeth meaning under the gums, right,

412
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,759
they are by law, by definition practicing veterinary medis without

413
00:21:53,759 --> 00:21:56,039
a license, which of course is against the law.

414
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: Some will allow it.

415
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: Most states will allow brushing out of groom where they

416
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,640
can brush the teeth, but they can't actually take a

417
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,079
tartar scraper and scrape the plaque the tartar away from

418
00:22:06,079 --> 00:22:07,240
the surface of the tooth.

419
00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 2: That odds. I know many of you are afraid of anesthesia.

420
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,440
And according to the veterinary.

421
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: Dental community and there are specialists in veterinaright dentistry. These

422
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,799
are veterinarians dvms or from University of Pennsylvania vmds that

423
00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:24,880
even after four years of veterinary school, chose to do

424
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,079
an internship and a residency in veterinary dentistry, sit for

425
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,920
their exams and to be actually become board certified by

426
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,880
the American Veterinary Dental College or the American Academy of

427
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,680
Veteran Dentistry, and they went through training and their opinion,

428
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,200
and I think it's a legit. In order to do

429
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,160
the job that often should be done needs to be

430
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,640
done cleaning appropriately, animal needs to be put to sleep

431
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,559
under anesthesia, completely under anesthesia. Now what I've done in

432
00:22:54,599 --> 00:22:58,000
my practice, and it's kind of a compromise. It does

433
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,039
lean towards you definitely need a healthy pet, and we

434
00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:03,400
always check the pets out first.

435
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: And that is a product.

436
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: It's an injectable kind of a sedative tranquilizer I call

437
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,839
a twilight sleep, using a medication called dex domator that

438
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,359
really renders an animal pretty amenable to working with. They're

439
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,480
a kind of awake, kind of awake. I say that

440
00:23:19,759 --> 00:23:22,640
kind of half in jest, because they are are sleeping,

441
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,920
but they are aware. And I add some pain medication

442
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,839
to that because there's not a lot of pain medication

443
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,039
in dex domontor. And sometimes their respiratory rate and heart

444
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,759
rate is slow, so I always keep them on little

445
00:23:33,799 --> 00:23:36,960
oxygen and we are able to clean the teeth very

446
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,440
well using all the equipment that we'd like to use,

447
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,319
the ultrasonic scaler, the tartar scrapers. We really can get

448
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,599
deep into the pockets, obviously not deep enough to do extractions,

449
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,519
especially molar or major what.

450
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: We call elevated extractions.

451
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,039
Speaker 3: And we can polish the teeth with a polishing cup

452
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:55,799
and that cutett rubber thing, with that tasty paste that

453
00:23:55,839 --> 00:23:58,359
you all have when you go to the dentist, and

454
00:23:58,519 --> 00:24:02,279
the beauty is that we're finished. We can actually reverse

455
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,519
the dex domator with another injection called antecedent, and these

456
00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:10,799
animals get up within minutes five, six, seven minutes, eight minutes,

457
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:14,319
depending on the dog. And it is absolutely amazing, and

458
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,200
it is the closest thing to anesesia without full anesesia.

459
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,799
And I have many many clients will offer that because

460
00:24:21,799 --> 00:24:22,559
we can.

461
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: Really do a pretty good job.

462
00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:27,599
Speaker 3: But just don't think that you're a veterinarian who is

463
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,480
insisting on general anesesia, therefore insisting on some blood work

464
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,039
is trying to rip you off, because they are following

465
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:39,119
the actual recommendations by the board. Shortified veterine identists others

466
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,079
like myself who feel that the patient is right, the

467
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,480
teeth aren't that bad, that using a twilight type sleep

468
00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:48,440
can do a good job and save the need for

469
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,319
full general anesesia. We are probably breaking some rules, but

470
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,279
we are doing a thorough job and if we can't,

471
00:24:54,279 --> 00:24:56,599
I will tell my client that no we can't. This

472
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,839
needs full anesesia. Or I know we're gonna have to

473
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,920
do some distractions. I know we're gonna have to do

474
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,640
some gum work. We might have to do some gum surgery,

475
00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:05,920
for example, in the case of a boxer that has

476
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,400
gingivile hyperplasia and we need to take my electrictor reunit

477
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,680
and remove that excess gingal tissue. For these procedures, full

478
00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:17,079
anas is going to be required, and therefore that's what

479
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,599
we should do.

480
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: But look around.

481
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 3: I guess to really take a message here, and you

482
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,759
know this is foray. The best therapy is preventive care.

483
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,880
If you're going to do it, you want to make

484
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,720
sure you do it right. Do not go to a

485
00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,359
non veterinarian to have it done. You will be disappointed.

486
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,920
There was a great study out that I will share

487
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,119
it with you next week about dogs that were followed.

488
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,279
Study was done by one of the prominent veterinan dentists

489
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:45,759
in the US and he followed these dogs that had

490
00:25:45,799 --> 00:25:50,319
continually gone to a groomer for dentistry and the results

491
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,920
were shocking. So anyway, I think that's about it for today.

492
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,440
I want to thank you for being with me, and guys,

493
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,880
I want you to tell your friends. I want to

494
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,440
hear from you next week. No excuse, no reason. Eight

495
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,200
seven seven three eight five eighty eight eight two. This

496
00:26:04,319 --> 00:26:06,200
is a call and show. I know you guys aren't

497
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:08,400
used to calling shows. You guys are used to listening

498
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,359
to one of our great hosts on the other shows

499
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:13,039
here on pet Life Radio do their thing talk for

500
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,680
a half hour an hour. But I'm here for you.

501
00:26:15,759 --> 00:26:17,359
I want to talk to you. I want to hear

502
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,480
from you, and you can call me, you can send

503
00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:22,119
me an email. I don't like talking for a whole

504
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,079
half hour. I do it, I can do it, obviously,

505
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:26,759
but I'd much rather hear from you. Get some great questions.

506
00:26:26,839 --> 00:26:30,759
Let's get some conversations going, and let's kind of let's

507
00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:34,119
take it from there. So once again, thanking pro Sense,

508
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:39,680
pet Products, thanking Walmart, and without them, I wouldn't be here.

509
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,079
And I'm here for you, here to answer your questions.

510
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,039
We'll see you next week next Thursday, the same time

511
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,880
eight one pm Pacific time zone, four pm Eastern time

512
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,079
zone and I want you to put it on your mark calendars.

513
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,680
So get that alert to your phone that you know

514
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,279
that you're going to.

515
00:26:57,319 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: Call me.

516
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 3: At eight seven seven three eight five eight A eight two.

517
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:04,519
Thanks for joining me, and we'll talk to you next week.

518
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,279
Speaker 1: Let's Talk pets every week on demand only on petlike

519
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:20,319
radio dot com