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Speaker 2: We love writing a lot of things, and vibes is
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Speaker 1: Web the vibes. Yes, let's ride, Let's let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's lock in, Let's lock in. It's a one I
Speaker 1: brought up a couple weeks ago. Yeah, I like that
Speaker 1: lock in.
Speaker 2: It seems like it seems like it seems like the
Speaker 2: brain rot term. That's kind of hot right now. I'm
Speaker 2: sure we're gonna get tired of it hearing about a
Speaker 2: couple months.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you did this based off
Speaker 1: of I mean, I think maybe he's told it from you,
Speaker 1: and I know you didn't take it from him before
Speaker 1: you said lock in. It reminded me of one of
Speaker 1: the one of the many and always funny skits from
Speaker 1: Drew Ski. How would you just, like, how do I
Speaker 1: tell people what Drew Ski is? Like it's a good question,
Speaker 1: Like an entertainer, clearly, but like he's just a dude
Speaker 1: who does little skits on the internet and has become
Speaker 1: super famous to where he's got like a tour where
Speaker 1: he does like the wild and out kind of type
Speaker 1: stuff and he is in the NBA's Celebrity All Star Game.
Speaker 1: Like he's an online comedian, right, yeah, he's.
Speaker 2: A content creator at the base, He's a content.
Speaker 1: But I feel like with that and there being really
Speaker 1: no other ties to his famous fire, Like you know,
Speaker 1: the Kardashians, they they were famous before they were famous
Speaker 1: because of their family and then and there and they
Speaker 1: were already wealthy and then like they just you know,
Speaker 1: they got a platform and you know, here they are,
Speaker 1: like they they're famous because they were like lightly famous
Speaker 1: and then had a platform. Yes, Risky Drewski got it
Speaker 1: at the Mudd.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean he's just really round. He's really really funny,
Speaker 1: and it's.
Speaker 2: Kind of teamed with Kevin Hard a little.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's I was gonna say, he's probably one
Speaker 1: of the most successful people in whatever we decide. We're
Speaker 1: gonna call that lane, right, and he's hilarious. But he's
Speaker 1: got one of his skits where he's kind of talking
Speaker 1: about like anytime you bring anytime you bring up like
Speaker 1: you know, your struggles, your frustrations, uh with with your
Speaker 1: with your partner, like you know, your your friend, your homeboy.
Speaker 1: He's like, you got to lock in. Yeah, you you
Speaker 1: just gotta lock in. I mean, because you ain't lock
Speaker 1: it in.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: It's like all you gotta lock in.
Speaker 2: And it's so simple, but it makes so much sense,
Speaker 2: like lock in.
Speaker 1: Lock in, baby to get ready. Yeah, so we're locked in,
Speaker 1: ready to rock and roll. And last night was a
Speaker 1: good night of college basketball really because of honestly, one
Speaker 1: of the best shots that you'll ever see, I think
Speaker 1: in the regular season, like that that that game winning
Speaker 1: shot from Michigan State. If you guys haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: seen it, it's not you haven't seen it. Where the
Speaker 1: hell have you been? What have you been doing with the.
Speaker 2: Bed early last night? Man, I forgot about the Kentucky
Speaker 2: game until I woke up at like six o'clock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and looked they they were able to they were
Speaker 1: able to put together a really impressive win. I mean, look, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: they're one of those teams that the better they do,
Speaker 1: the better for Louisville, because obviously they beat Louisville and
Speaker 1: they're a team that we need to be in the
Speaker 1: top fifty four to be a quad one opportunity. They're
Speaker 1: regultless so either and look, they didn't beat Kentucky, so
Speaker 1: but but you know, like they're one of those teams.
Speaker 1: And by the way, what I said a few weeks
Speaker 1: ago in the SEC about there's teams that, like, I
Speaker 1: can't tell you they're bad, but they are benefit like
Speaker 1: they haven't actually gone out there and really earned like
Speaker 1: big key signature wins. And one of those teams I
Speaker 1: kept thinking about was Texas A and M. And here
Speaker 1: we are Texas A and M is now lost to Missouri,
Speaker 1: not on Missouri lost to Vandy at home last night
Speaker 1: they lost to Mississippi State, who doesn't really have any legitimate,
Speaker 1: you know, wins or anything. So anyways, Oklahoma looks like
Speaker 1: a tournament team as far as like the bracketology, but
Speaker 1: like I don't really know how. But anyways, Kentucky they
Speaker 1: got every they were fully healthy minus Crisa a kerk Crisa,
Speaker 1: which I think that's the first time they've had that
Speaker 1: since like maybe the Florida game or maybe the Alabama game.
Speaker 1: So they got a hard fought win. It didn't look great,
Speaker 1: but when they're at full strength, I think they have
Speaker 1: shown to be a team that can beat anybody. So
Speaker 1: that's got to have Kentucky fans feeling pretty good. But anyways,
Speaker 1: the game winner last night for Michigan State. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's just because of where we are, with
Speaker 1: you having the ability at any moment to get out
Speaker 1: your phone and find content to just get to get
Speaker 1: lost in waste time. TikTok, Instagram reels, help Twitter. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can scroll a variety of different social media platforms
Speaker 1: and you know, just forget about what you may have
Speaker 1: spent thirty minutes watching before because it's just NonStop it's
Speaker 1: a constant thing. So what I'm getting to is that
Speaker 1: like last night's game winner for Michigan State on the road,
Speaker 1: it was further it was it was basically the other
Speaker 1: three point line right like, it wasn't half court. It
Speaker 1: was further than that. But and it also wasn't like
Speaker 1: the other free throw line. It was right between the
Speaker 1: three point line and half court. And like, I believe
Speaker 1: that is one of the best game winning shots I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in a college basketball game, and nobody's saying
Speaker 1: that it's not. It's certainly getting attention. I mean, Austin
Speaker 1: hasn't watched it, which was surprising. I don't know how
Speaker 1: he missed it. But have you seen it yet? I
Speaker 1: just sent it to you. No, I thought that's what
Speaker 1: you were watching.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I was looking I was looking at attack.
Speaker 1: Sorry, So anyways, you know, you watching it is not
Speaker 1: going to change anything about what I'm saying. But like
Speaker 1: I believe that we just now can just quickly move
Speaker 1: on from things in a millisecond and not forget about it,
Speaker 1: not feel not feel.
Speaker 2: That you Yes, I just brought it up.
Speaker 1: What the hell's going on? Anyways? We can just move
Speaker 1: on from from things quickly to where like it makes
Speaker 1: me feel as if that didn't quite get the appreciation
Speaker 1: that it that it should and that it typically would
Speaker 1: get because again, like, oh, you know, I'll find I'll
Speaker 1: find a crazy video on TikTok or Instagram. And by
Speaker 1: the way, that's how a lot of people consume content.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of people were watching it last night.
Speaker 1: Who watched college basketball? I was because I bet on
Speaker 1: that game and I love college hoops, probably more so
Speaker 1: than most. But most people watched it just on their phone,
Speaker 1: which is not That's okay. I mean, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: the power of technology and social media and clip content.
Speaker 1: When I say clip content, I mean not long form,
Speaker 1: but just something that takes you no time to just
Speaker 1: pick up and watch.
Speaker 2: That's a gut ranching shot.
Speaker 1: I mean Mariland and the story there, I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't know or care, but the story
Speaker 1: there in Michigan State is that the young man who
Speaker 1: hit that shot, you know, he's kind of been an
Speaker 1: issue for them at times where he's he'd been demoted,
Speaker 1: essentially started coming off the bench. He committed a late
Speaker 1: foul in that game that really, I mean it absolutely
Speaker 1: hurt his team. I don't know if he was the
Speaker 1: one who turned it over late, but sure enough it
Speaker 1: was tied when it should have been. It should have
Speaker 1: been a Michigan State win. Maryland had some heroic slate
Speaker 1: They did just enough to tie it up. It looked
Speaker 1: like Michigan State was going to give it away. Had
Speaker 1: they gave it in a way, this guy would have
Speaker 1: been blamed to some extent, maybe most of the blame
Speaker 1: would have gone to him. And sure enough, he hits
Speaker 1: a you know, miracle shot it and it looked like
Speaker 1: he shoots that every game, right, Like, if you go
Speaker 1: back and watch it, it looks as if this is
Speaker 1: just a shot they have him given, they give him
Speaker 1: the green light for that, which they clearly don't. But
Speaker 1: he shot it, like, you know, it wasn't like just
Speaker 1: a heave. He got a good running start, had a
Speaker 1: little bit of form to it, you know, obviously, not
Speaker 1: like he's pulling up for a three. And then it
Speaker 1: was just like it did. It didn't bank in, it
Speaker 1: didn't just I mean, it looked like a shot this
Speaker 1: guy takes all the time. So moments like that, I mean,
Speaker 1: it gets no better in college basketball. Now if you're
Speaker 1: Michigan State, how good are you feeling if you're Maryland? Oh,
Speaker 1: a punch to the gut and again, and what.
Speaker 2: A terrible shot. There's four seconds yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: He did nothing. They were fine with you taking that shot.
Speaker 1: They contested it. You weren't even set and you left
Speaker 1: enough time for him to get the rebound, get it
Speaker 1: to where he got it and kill you. So and
Speaker 1: this this is you know, I'm a little bit of
Speaker 1: a romantic about college basketball, and yesterday just that was
Speaker 1: such a moment to where it it hit me in
Speaker 1: the fields from my love for college hoops because Maryland,
Speaker 1: you know, Maryland's a basketball school. Easy to forget that,
Speaker 1: but they are. I mean, Maryland should be good when
Speaker 1: the ACC was really really loaded in basketball, you know,
Speaker 1: before they left for the Big Ten, before Louisville was
Speaker 1: in the league. And by the way, thank you Maryland
Speaker 1: for doing that, like they were one of the best.
Speaker 1: Like when you talked about the ACC being a good league,
Speaker 1: Maryland was a part of that. I mean they won
Speaker 1: a national championship in two thousand and two, had back
Speaker 1: to back final fours, and really from then on, when
Speaker 1: Gary Williams stepped down, you know, things weren't things weren't great,
Speaker 1: but like Kevin Willard, I think can have Maryland being
Speaker 1: a consistent top twenty caliber team. And they showed the
Speaker 1: line to get in at College Park last night or
Speaker 1: yesterday during the day actually, because people were like, can
Speaker 1: out for this game. They're in like the top fifteen now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got a hell of a squad and the
Speaker 1: fan base because they've now been you know, consistently good,
Speaker 1: they're now at least, you know, getting to the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mellow Trimble's got that program going.
Speaker 1: And then I forget even Mark Turgen, who I thought
Speaker 1: got fired a little too quickly. He had some good
Speaker 1: teams there. Jake Layman, you mentioned Mellow Tremble, who was
Speaker 1: really good. Diamond Stone anybody remember that name, dude? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a baller. So you know, like Maryland had
Speaker 1: had everything lined up for to be a great evening.
Speaker 1: The energy in the arena was awesome. They got SVP
Speaker 1: of marylynd Alump sitting court side getting into it, and
Speaker 1: then they have their hearts ripped out, which I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not like happy. Maryland was sad, but like the
Speaker 1: people who love college basketball get it. And I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people around here listening right now love
Speaker 1: college hoops and I will always love it. I had
Speaker 1: to learn to love it without a team that I
Speaker 1: could care about. I mean, I'll always care about Louisville,
Speaker 1: but let's be real, the previous three seasons, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was really just is like when I thought of
Speaker 1: like consuming college basketball and you know, getting into it
Speaker 1: and watching it and betting on it in March madness.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I didn't think of Louisville because they
Speaker 1: weren't there, but like, there wasn't never any moment in
Speaker 1: the Kenny Paane era where I was thinking to myself, boom,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it'll get better to where we can make
Speaker 1: the tournament. Maybe it'll get better to where like we're
Speaker 1: not terrible, but like it didn't happen. So now I
Speaker 1: get the best of both worlds. I'm enjoying it but
Speaker 1: also knowing that I've got a team that hopefully can
Speaker 1: can make a run in March.
Speaker 2: I mean, I ask you a question, like, how do
Speaker 2: you feel as I'm sitting here watching this is an
Speaker 2: incredible shot, but how do you feel about and not
Speaker 2: just this year, just overall like about Michigan State. Do
Speaker 2: they still have a sour taste in your mouth just
Speaker 2: like they do me from twenty nineteen and what was
Speaker 2: yes to know twenty sixteen or seventeen when they beat us?
Speaker 1: Yes and no. So I have a lot of respect
Speaker 1: for tom Izzo. I think he is genuine. I think
Speaker 1: you know, if you like him or don't like him
Speaker 1: as far as like you know, his brand, his personality,
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I think that's authentically him. He's a
Speaker 1: guy who is going to coach his players really really hard.
Speaker 1: And I think right now we'll see what happens in March.
Speaker 1: But like ISO, this year, I think has an is
Speaker 1: O team, Like I think, I think Michigan State is
Speaker 1: as good as as they've probably been in a long time.
Speaker 2: Good way to put that.
Speaker 1: And they also you know, he's still he's not complaining
Speaker 1: as much as other coaches about the new world, right,
Speaker 1: and yet he's still doing I mean, he's still being
Speaker 1: him right, Like it'd be different if he was refusing
Speaker 1: to adapt in any way and then blaming everybody all
Speaker 1: these circumstances about the portal in Nil and just being
Speaker 1: an old Cromungeon, which a lot of these guys have
Speaker 1: done and then they leave, They quit and they retire
Speaker 1: or you know, leave mid season or right before the
Speaker 1: season because they just they aren't cut out to do it.
Speaker 1: Is O. I don't think likes it, but he's just
Speaker 1: gonna keep being him. He's made some slight adjustments. So
Speaker 1: I is those one of those guys that has done
Speaker 1: it long enough and he's been so consistently in the
Speaker 1: top tier that I don't like Michigan State more often
Speaker 1: than not. I think I probably found myself kind of
Speaker 1: wanting them to not win just just because. But there's
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes that growing up or maybe early
Speaker 1: in their career, athletes or coaches that I that I
Speaker 1: that I wasn't a fan of. In fact, I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed rooting against them, but I also grew to really
Speaker 1: just respect him to where in turn, that actually gives
Speaker 1: them a little bit of likability to me. For example,
Speaker 1: he used to hate Lebron James and I don't really
Speaker 1: love him now, but like I know, Lebron is one
Speaker 1: of the best players I will ever watch ever outside
Speaker 1: of Michael Jordan. So with that, like I can't just
Speaker 1: be like I can't be like the guy that claims
Speaker 1: all he's he's he's a bum, or he's he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's a because he is a baby, and he does
Speaker 1: you know he's he's not built like Jordan in any way.
Speaker 1: I don't think he has any self awareness, but like
Speaker 1: I'm going to at least view it from Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: lucky to be able to say I got to see
Speaker 1: this guy enter the league, and i'll him end his career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it'll be somebody that you know is an all
Speaker 1: time legend. Same thing with like Kobe. I didn't really
Speaker 1: like Kobe because he was arrogant, he was cocky, his
Speaker 1: Lakers beat my Celtics in the finals when we finally
Speaker 1: got there, when it was Kobe in shack. But over time,
Speaker 1: especially when Lebron was doing his thing and leaving Cleveland
Speaker 1: to go to Miami and the decision and just being Lebron.
Speaker 1: When I say Lebron being Lebron, I don't mean like
Speaker 1: being a criminal or anything like that, but just like
Speaker 1: doing things where he can't read the room and understand
Speaker 1: that people are going to not like you, like you
Speaker 1: don't realize how you look, bro Like. That's kind of
Speaker 1: how it comes off. So with Kobe, Like, he's just
Speaker 1: he was such a competitor, so like I didn't really
Speaker 1: like him growing up, but man, I knew he was great,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of grew to respect him. Same
Speaker 1: thing with Tom Brady when Tom Brady went to Tampa.
Speaker 1: What could I say? I used to fight about Peyton Manning. No,
Speaker 1: he's better than Brady. I can't with a straight face
Speaker 1: say that now, and I haven't been able to do
Speaker 1: it for a long time. So with Izzo, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's like the best coach of all time, but Izzo,
Speaker 1: he is on. His last final four was in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: and by the way, that team that he beat he
Speaker 1: get to the final four happened to be the Duke's
Speaker 1: Ion team that had Zion RJ. Barrett Reddish those guys,
Speaker 1: So right now he is currently in his most in
Speaker 1: his longest drought ever as far as making a final four.
Speaker 1: So he won. He got to a final four in
Speaker 1: ninety nine, Then he won a national title in two thousand,
Speaker 1: by the way, the last Big ten national championship. Then
Speaker 1: he went to a final four again in two thousand
Speaker 1: and one, went back to a final four in two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, went back to a final four in
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, went back to a final four
Speaker 1: in twenty ten, went back to a final four in
Speaker 1: twenty and fifteen, went back to a final four in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. So this guy has made a final four,
Speaker 1: and at least sometimes he's made multiple final fours in
Speaker 1: a four year stretch. But he's never gone longer than
Speaker 1: four years without a final four appearance at Michigan State.
Speaker 1: Think about that, and by the way, I didn't finish it.
Speaker 1: He's never gone four years without going to a final
Speaker 1: four until currently, because he's currently on that longest drought
Speaker 1: and everything has changed in college basketball, and what does
Speaker 1: he have right now as we speak, his best team
Speaker 1: in a long time. He seems to have really found
Speaker 1: a way to just make it work and by doing
Speaker 1: it the right way, working hard. And I'm sure you
Speaker 1: can get him to bitch and mona occasionally about the
Speaker 1: Portland and I l and all that, but like he's
Speaker 1: just a ball coach. And last night they were interviewing
Speaker 1: him about becoming the all time winning as coach in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, passing Bob Knight, and like he got
Speaker 1: emotional because I think he cares, like he's I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just I have a lot of respect for him.
Speaker 1: And yes, I blame us for them beating us in
Speaker 1: two thousand and two thousand and nine. We talked about
Speaker 1: it yesterday, like that was brutal, right. I mean, that
Speaker 1: t will Earl Clark team in two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: my favorite Louisville team ever, I think, I mean, aside
Speaker 1: from the championship game, of course. Yeah, but I know
Speaker 1: what you mean, right, Like that team in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: really it just felt destiny, you know, so like is
Speaker 1: what we were supposed to do. And I guess I could,
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of say the same thing in
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, but they hadn't even broke through
Speaker 1: and got to a Final four yet. But that team,
Speaker 1: to me, it's the most talented Louisville team I watched
Speaker 1: play that didn't make a Final four. I could also
Speaker 1: claim that they're one. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I put him above twenty thirteen, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And then when they beat us in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of feel like, you know, like
Speaker 1: they got us, you know, like mango, mister free throw
Speaker 1: and it was over time that Louisville team ended up
Speaker 1: being really good that year, got to you know, another
Speaker 1: Elite eight. So I just have a lot of respect
Speaker 1: for him. And then when we beat them when they
Speaker 1: were the number one seed in the Sweet sixteen and
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, Yes, when Draymond was there and Gorgey was
Speaker 1: hitting threes like that was one of Rick Bittino's best tournament.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's had a lot of great games
Speaker 1: as a coach. Clearly he's a legend. But that was
Speaker 1: where Rick was so prepared for Michigan State as though
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. I mean, they they were
Speaker 1: phenomenal and Rick up until twenty fourteen, which we don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about. I mean, he'd never lost a
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen game because like he was just you get
Speaker 1: you know, he gets past the first weekend, He's got
Speaker 1: you know, five days, six days whatever it is to
Speaker 1: prepare for who whoever he's got in the round to sixteen,
Speaker 1: and he you know, he takes him out.
Speaker 2: That's played in Phoenix, Arizona too, if I remember, yep.
Speaker 1: Then and then they came back from came back from
Speaker 1: a big deficit against Florida to make that Final four
Speaker 1: in that same season team. So look, I've always just
Speaker 1: had a lot of respect for Izzoh, so I don't
Speaker 1: really feel like I don't like spart got Michigan State fans,
Speaker 1: like I don't know a lot of them, but they
Speaker 1: kind of seem like not people I want to be
Speaker 1: hanging out with. But is O Demi is one of
Speaker 1: those dudes that he gets he gets a bat And
Speaker 1: again I'm just I'm nerding out on tom Izzo today
Speaker 1: It's Tom Izzo Show. But whenever he he got all
Speaker 1: the way to the final four and twenty twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: because he got past Duke and that's when you feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, you beat the best team out there. Like
Speaker 1: not to say you're gonna win at all, but man,
Speaker 1: like you look like you're in pretty good shape. Well
Speaker 1: then they end up losing to Chris Beard's Texas Tech
Speaker 1: team in the final four, which was you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was an upset. And they asked him after the
Speaker 1: game like, hey, you've made a lot of final fours
Speaker 1: and you have that national championship from twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: But you know, basically he was just asked about what
Speaker 1: a lot of people were saying, like, man is oh,
Speaker 1: he might get to the final four, but you know
Speaker 1: his team's going to be asked when they get there.
Speaker 1: I don't know who said that, but I'm sure somebody
Speaker 1: said something like that right now. It's something you said,
Speaker 1: right Maybe I said it. I don't know, but he
Speaker 1: got real emotional and mad, but not at the reporter,
Speaker 1: but like like it bothers him that he can't break through,
Speaker 1: and like he didn't. He didn't try to be little
Speaker 1: the reporter. He didn't you know, lash out, He didn't,
Speaker 1: he didn't start. I mean, honestly, what I think ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent of the other coaches, especially those that have
Speaker 1: credentials like he does, would have done would have said,
Speaker 1: last got checked. It's not easy to get here, last
Speaker 1: dot check. There aren't many people like Mick Cronin. Remember
Speaker 1: what he said earlier this year and he was dogging
Speaker 1: his team. I'm chilling. I got nothing to prove. I
Speaker 1: got fifty five years old. I'm not even I'm not
Speaker 1: even fifty five years old, and I got five hundred whins,
Speaker 1: like you know, as if like he's I mean, it
Speaker 1: was the most like hilarious thing, actually, but like Iszo
Speaker 1: could have done that, and he's got like he he
Speaker 1: can put him on the table, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and there and there's something there, but he didn't like
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah it hurts like it's like he
Speaker 1: he didn't hide it. So I just think he has
Speaker 1: shown throughout his career wanting to be a really good coach,
Speaker 1: a real competitor, coaches his guys hard, and I think
Speaker 1: he's really genuine. And as I get older, and you know,
Speaker 1: don't treat this as much like life and death. I
Speaker 1: never I don't know any of these guys that I
Speaker 1: watch on TV with coaches, players or anything like that.
Speaker 1: So it's not like I know him personally, but I am.
Speaker 1: I do have an appreciation for people that I that
Speaker 1: I think don't take themselves too seriously and are a
Speaker 1: little bit more you know, relatable, And you know, is
Speaker 1: Tho's that guy. And last night, you know, even after
Speaker 1: the game, he was talking Andy Katz and Andy Katz
Speaker 1: I've never been a huge fan of but you know,
Speaker 1: respect his work. He's clearly more successful than than Oliver. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he like he's to me, he's has he always
Speaker 1: been like to me, he used to be ESPN's like insider, right,
Speaker 1: like like like like, I don't really look funny, Like
Speaker 1: I don't remember him being a guy that they they have,
Speaker 1: like ESPN cut him and do you know what his
Speaker 1: first job was after he got let go to ESPN?
Speaker 2: It wasn't Yahoo, was it? No?
Speaker 1: No, he was the in game MC for Yukon football.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like he started doing like some side
Speaker 1: like so then so right now he works there and
Speaker 1: he works for the NC double a like so if
Speaker 1: you go to the msaa's website and look at their
Speaker 1: bracketology or their power thirty six rankings by cats, like,
Speaker 1: he does that stuff. And he also works for the
Speaker 1: Big Ten Network. So last night he's the sidelin reporter.
Speaker 1: So he's asking Tom Mizzo after the game, you know,
Speaker 1: but he didn't ask good questions, and I'm sure like
Speaker 1: in that moment, it's tough, but tom Izo said, you know,
Speaker 1: that was a lucky shot. We got lucky there, but
Speaker 1: my guys deserve to win this game. We fought, we
Speaker 1: battled and and you know, very raw and real in
Speaker 1: the moment, responds from Izzo, and Andy Katz just looks
Speaker 1: at him and says, why do you believe your team
Speaker 1: deserved to win this game? And Izzo looked at him
Speaker 1: again being kind of respectful, but like, did you watch it?
Speaker 1: He said that, Like it's just like I mean, but like,
Speaker 1: why would you ask that, Like, you know, what, do
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna say we deserve to win it?
Speaker 1: Because I mean, because we we we fought. Like it
Speaker 1: was such a waste of a question, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like he should have asked you.
Speaker 2: About it, and we did not deserve You caught me.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask me next week and I'll go
Speaker 1: back and watch the film and tell you why we
Speaker 1: deserve to win. Like what are you doing? That's a
Speaker 1: clown question. But anyways, college basketball is the best and
Speaker 1: we are getting getting closer to March and I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Speaking of that, we're on the on the on the
Speaker 1: other side, we'll take a look at sort of how
Speaker 1: the ACC tournament bracket is projected to go now, because Louisville,
Speaker 1: with their win on Tuesday and with some results last
Speaker 1: night at the ACC, they have clenched a double by
Speaker 1: and you know you could you're probably gonna only I mean,
Speaker 1: you only need to win three games to win this tournament.
Speaker 1: So you got to get past the first game and
Speaker 1: then from there, there's value to be value to be had,
Speaker 1: opportunity to get a valuable win for the first time
Speaker 1: I'm in forever and that excites me. We got a
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Speaker 1: an updated look at what the ACC tournament would look
Speaker 1: like today and Louisville clinched a double by currently they're
Speaker 1: you know, they've got games to play, and look, they
Speaker 1: could lose. We know that they nearly lost the other
Speaker 1: night to Virginia Tech, but they if they finish winning
Speaker 1: out and really I think even Clemson could lose, and
Speaker 1: let me look at the standings, because I believe it's
Speaker 1: Louisville and Clemson kind of by themselves in second place,
Speaker 1: but obviously Louisville has that tiebreaker with the win over them,
Speaker 1: and then Duke's really in a world by themselves. So yeah, actually,
Speaker 1: never mind because Duke, like, for example, if Duke was
Speaker 1: to slip up and lose another game, which I don't
Speaker 1: see that happening with the way they've been playing lately,
Speaker 1: then clemsond be really tricky because you'd have a three
Speaker 1: way tie. But again, I assume that this thing's gonna
Speaker 1: go chalk wouldn't be the biggest surprise in the world.
Speaker 1: But right now SMU is in fourth place by themselves,
Speaker 1: and they have a three game deficit to Clemson and Louisville,
Speaker 1: so they are twelve and five, and then you've got
Speaker 1: fifteen and two a piece for Louisville and Clemson and Duke.
Speaker 1: So if it started today, Louisville would be the two seed,
Speaker 1: playing on Thursday at seven o'clock, and that'll be on
Speaker 1: March thirteenth, and they would play either Georgia Tech or
Speaker 1: whoever plays Georgia Tech, which would be Virginia Tech in California.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of interesting because George Tech beat you.
Speaker 1: They're going team the beach in the league outside of Duke,
Speaker 1: and Virginia Tech nearly beat you. Although I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like if they played Virginia Tech ten other times,
Speaker 1: they beat Virginia Tech ten times by a lot of points.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think you saw a Louisville that
Speaker 1: we've never seen before, and I hope that we don't
Speaker 1: ever see again, not to say that we won't see
Speaker 1: them have stretches of play where they're you know, missing
Speaker 1: shots or making mistakes. They're not perfect, but that was just,
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have it. It was that night where
Speaker 1: and every team has it, as we talked about yesterday,
Speaker 1: where it's just not your night and things are just
Speaker 1: going to continue to go wrong. However, you know, we
Speaker 1: shall see, because as I said yesterday, Louisville, I think
Speaker 1: in the last three games, despite winning, they haven't haven't
Speaker 1: changed my mind about them. But I do start I
Speaker 1: started to since and maybe I'm overthinking it, maybe I'm pairing,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there's a little bit of like
Speaker 1: losing a little bit of steam. Maybe they're kind of
Speaker 1: wearing down just to Tad, but again, we'll see how
Speaker 1: they look the rest of the way. They've got Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: on Saturday. But anyways, a Georgia Tech win, I mean
Speaker 1: that it's weird because the ACC has had such a
Speaker 1: bad year. But also I mean when you look at
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech like they're number seven, I mean, heck, wake
Speaker 1: Forest is number five. I'd rather play them, And it's
Speaker 1: probably just because I'm only basing it off of the
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech game when they look phenomenal and they've had
Speaker 1: a year where they've been bad at times. But anyways,
Speaker 1: so Louisville and Clemson would play if it goes chalk
Speaker 1: in the tournament, and then of course you would potentially
Speaker 1: get to you know, you get to Duke if you know,
Speaker 1: if you can get past two games, so you've already
Speaker 1: clinched that meeting. This is actually a good thing. The
Speaker 1: only like lost in the tournament, in the ACC tournament
Speaker 1: they could hurt you would be would be that first game.
Speaker 1: Because if you win, let's say, let's say Virginia Tech
Speaker 1: beats cal and then Georgia Tech beats Virginia Tech, and
Speaker 1: then you beat Georgia Tech. There's not a lot of
Speaker 1: value there at all. I mean, you get revenge, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't do anything for your resume. And then you
Speaker 1: go and then you get to Clemson. Let's say, you know,
Speaker 1: I hope you win, but let's say you lose a
Speaker 1: close game. That's still not going to be something that
Speaker 1: really hurts your resume. So I'm kind of starting to
Speaker 1: and I'll wait till like next week to kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, probably go there because I want to see
Speaker 1: what happens against Pittsburgh, but I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: Louisville as of now, the scenarios as far as what
Speaker 1: seed they get, to me, seems kind of clear. I
Speaker 1: say that without having any real clue what the committee's
Speaker 1: going to do, because you know, these are human beings
Speaker 1: that are gonna have to make a decision. It's not
Speaker 1: just based off of metrics and numbers and whatnot. It's
Speaker 1: based off of the eye test that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But you will have a chance to get more wins
Speaker 1: that will have value, And obviously a win against Clemson
Speaker 1: would help you, but it would just give you two
Speaker 1: of your best win I would just love to knock
Speaker 1: off Duke, but again, easier said than done. There's also
Speaker 1: a scenario there where if Duke keeps getting you know,
Speaker 1: Duke keeps playing well and just dominating, like maybe you're
Speaker 1: maybe you're rolling, and you beat Georgia Tech, you give
Speaker 1: Clemson a double digit loss, and then you just get
Speaker 1: steamrolled by Duke because they're that good. I mean, that
Speaker 1: may be like a bad taste. I would hope that
Speaker 1: the committee would maybe look at that more so as
Speaker 1: all right, this Duke team is scary good right now.
Speaker 1: And by the way, they are one of just two
Speaker 1: teams that's beat that's beat Auburn, all right, And as
Speaker 1: far as the rest of the ACC and the tournament,
Speaker 1: I mean, SMU, I guess they've still got a chance,
Speaker 1: but I mean Wake Forest like they can't get in now.
Speaker 1: I mean they just can't. I mean they were already
Speaker 1: sort of like you know, and this is what I
Speaker 1: don't get. If you're if you're on the if you're like,
Speaker 1: this is what I don't understand about the bracketologists, because
Speaker 1: again they're they're simply just guessing when it comes to
Speaker 1: the last four in, first four out, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But if you've got a team that is sitting there
Speaker 1: in the last four out or the i'm sorry, the
Speaker 1: first four out or the last four in, and there's
Speaker 1: like a real big a big result, good or bad.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that influence them going from one of those sides
Speaker 1: to the other, Like, I'm sure it's just strictly number crunching.
Speaker 1: And what I oftentimes don't remember and remind myself about
Speaker 1: enough is that is that you know, it matters what
Speaker 1: other teams do as well. And the bubble is not
Speaker 1: a great bubble this year. So like if Indiana is
Speaker 1: one of the if Indiana's one of the last four
Speaker 1: out or maybe one of the next four out, and
Speaker 1: they beat Purdue, like, shouldn't that put them to where
Speaker 1: maybe they're in the last four in? Maybe it didn't
Speaker 1: because Purdue actually had lost four in a row and
Speaker 1: now that doesn't even look like that big of a win.
Speaker 1: But like wake Forest, they lost last night and it's
Speaker 1: like the third loss they have. Like again, wake Forest,
Speaker 1: right now they have one win that has value. They
Speaker 1: beat Michigan. They're nineteen and nine, eleven and six in
Speaker 1: a down. Dare I say bad? Acc Their best win
Speaker 1: as far as quad one wins in conference play is SMU,
Speaker 1: who right now is not a tournament team according to
Speaker 1: the committee. So last night they lost to Virginia on
Speaker 1: their home floor. Keep in mind just a week before
Speaker 1: they lost to Florida State on their home floor. Like
Speaker 1: now there's seventy four in the kN palm and even
Speaker 1: worse than the net. Like look if they're still looking
Speaker 1: at like last four in or first four out or
Speaker 1: like next four out, Like that's what I don't understand
Speaker 1: about it, because again, like for Louisville, they're good now
Speaker 1: because they've played so many games since I started talking
Speaker 1: about this, But when you hit that stretch of the
Speaker 1: schedule that you're currently in where you have very little
Speaker 1: to gain and a lot to lose by slipping up
Speaker 1: and losing to one of these teams, then you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like if your big win is
Speaker 1: Clemson and the other good things about your is the metrics,
Speaker 1: and that the majority of the teams that have beaten
Speaker 1: you all but one are good teams and they're not
Speaker 1: bad losses. And then you start adding a bad loss,
Speaker 1: like a loss of Virginia Tech would have been a
Speaker 1: bad loss, it wouldn't have put him out of the tournament,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it really really lowers the ceiling
Speaker 1: for what you can do as far as seeding. So
Speaker 1: it is what it is. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: I've talked about this and kind of said the same
Speaker 1: stuff for the last couple of weeks because we know
Speaker 1: what this looks like, right, it's you're supposed to take
Speaker 1: care of business and beat these teams that you know
Speaker 1: you're supposed to beat, and then from then, you know,
Speaker 1: you just wait till you get to you know, try
Speaker 1: not to slip up, and then see where you stand
Speaker 1: when you start playing better teams that are going to
Speaker 1: be in the tournament. But I do think a caller
Speaker 1: who called in I believe Monday, I think his I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm with him how I'm with him with everything
Speaker 1: other than I have one seed lower than what he has.
Speaker 1: He said, if Louisville wins out and that means beating
Speaker 1: Clemson and Duke, they'll get a two seed. I don't
Speaker 1: think they can get a two seed. I just don't
Speaker 1: because they won't. Mean do would be a huge win,
Speaker 1: but you still and you'd have a great record, a
Speaker 1: great record, and your numbers would be pretty good, I
Speaker 1: would assume. But to get a two seed, you know,
Speaker 1: you got to be like a top eight team. Louisville
Speaker 1: will never sniff the top ten of the kin Palmer
Speaker 1: the net just because of because they've had very little
Speaker 1: opportunities to get quad one wins. Like last night Kentucky
Speaker 1: played and by the way, they won, so credit to them.
Speaker 1: They got a ton of quad one wins. But Kentucky
Speaker 1: played in their seventeenth quad one game. Louisvill's played in eight,
Speaker 1: and you got to keep in mind two of those
Speaker 1: eight at any moment could fall out of the top
Speaker 1: fifty and now be quad two to where like you
Speaker 1: just hey, look, if louis would have played seventeen quad
Speaker 1: one games where they have nine quad one wins like
Speaker 1: Kentucky does, probably not. That's not what I'm saying, But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you just haven't had opportunities to play
Speaker 1: quad one teams. Therefore, it's just you're kind of like
Speaker 1: you're just riding through, right. You just take care of business,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't give you much opportunity to move up.
Speaker 1: But if you slip up, it hurts you. So if
Speaker 1: they went out, and I'm not saying that they are,
Speaker 1: trust me, I think their ceiling is a three but
Speaker 1: I also wouldn't even be shocked if they get a four.
Speaker 1: I think if they win out other than Duke and
Speaker 1: they lose to Duke, still think they could get a four.
Speaker 1: Might be a five. I think if they win out
Speaker 1: or win the rest of the regular season, beat one
Speaker 1: of these teams in the Thursday games the quarterfinals, and
Speaker 1: then they lose in the semis to Clemson, I really
Speaker 1: think it's going to be dependent upon what other teams
Speaker 1: are doing, and I think you could be anywhere between
Speaker 1: maybe a six and an eight, and eight seems like
Speaker 1: it would be a disservice to Louisville. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I think they're eight seed worthy. I still believe
Speaker 1: that this team we've seen the majority of the season
Speaker 1: thus far has proven that they are good. But again,
Speaker 1: when I say proven, they're proven it on the floor
Speaker 1: with who they're playing, which is all they can do.
Speaker 1: They're proven it, you know to me, which doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: but the resume doesn't necessarily say that. And also like
Speaker 1: I need to find a way to you know, I
Speaker 1: need to find a better way with words here, which
Speaker 1: you know you think I would be able to do
Speaker 1: that considering I talk for a living. But more than anything,
Speaker 1: I just kind of stumble over my words. I guess
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's I'm a professional talker, I
Speaker 1: just yap and uh, you know, that's kind of what
Speaker 1: this is. But what I'm saying is, as much as
Speaker 1: you know, I've enjoyed this ride and it's been phenomenal,
Speaker 1: and because of where we were recently, I'm not too
Speaker 1: much thinking about, you know, well, who cares whatever it's
Speaker 1: another thirty point win, because we haven't had thirty point
Speaker 1: wins around here in a while, right, But also, like
Speaker 1: I'm every now and then, in the back of my mind,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I mean, when you get again. This
Speaker 1: is what I said the other day. And I didn't
Speaker 1: plan on going here to like be negative. It's just
Speaker 1: something that I hadn't thought about until I was looking
Speaker 1: at bracketology. When Louisville gets to the tournament, whoever they play,
Speaker 1: for the most part, I mean, I guess there could
Speaker 1: be an exception, but I would say there's a good
Speaker 1: percentage chance that whoever they play in the first round,
Speaker 1: unless they're a five seed or better, whoever they play
Speaker 1: will be a better team than everybody they've played in
Speaker 1: the ACC outside of two maybe three teams. And that's
Speaker 1: not that doesn't tell you anything. That's just I think
Speaker 1: that's a fact. Therefore, and again maybe you can say, well,
Speaker 1: how's it a fact, Well, all the teams that they've
Speaker 1: played aren't gonna be in the tournament. The team that
Speaker 1: they will play in the tournament, you know, they made it.
Speaker 1: That's why they're playing them. So that that doesn't worry me,
Speaker 1: but it does just kind of keep me grounded a
Speaker 1: little bit to kind of know, like, hey, I believe
Speaker 1: Louisville if they get you know, let's just see who
Speaker 1: the who the who the bracketology like the updated bract
Speaker 1: this is from earlier in the week. Well, let's say
Speaker 1: when they get to the tournament, they're playing I don't know,
Speaker 1: a New Mexico or a Baylor or who else, a
Speaker 1: Saint Mary's, a Yukon, a Utah, state of Andy. Like
Speaker 1: I feel justified in saying, like, yeah, you know, they
Speaker 1: could lose, of course, but they should win. They're better.
Speaker 1: But even as I say that, like I know that
Speaker 1: Vanderbilt has been battle tested in the SEE and they've
Speaker 1: got some really good wins, so like, you know, I
Speaker 1: can't prove it I believe it, and that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anything for anybody other than myself. But that's also what
Speaker 1: kind of makes it exciting, Like there's some there's something
Speaker 1: about not you know, being confident, but also kind of
Speaker 1: not knowing for sure, Like Louisville basketball was so good
Speaker 1: for the majority of my life that you know, they
Speaker 1: could lose to teams, but more often than not during
Speaker 1: the Rick Patino era. And you can attest to this
Speaker 1: Austin as somebody who really lived and breathed the Rick
Speaker 1: Patino era. If we lost to a team that wasn't ranked,
Speaker 1: or like a team that wasn't a big brand, it
Speaker 1: was a real outlier, Like it wasn't yeah, it was
Speaker 1: you know, people lose their mind. You know. Obviously the
Speaker 1: lot has changed since then, so you know, we were
Speaker 1: just kind of you know, what we were supposed to do,
Speaker 1: what we were expected to do, and that made it
Speaker 1: you know, that was a good place to be. But
Speaker 1: now I kind of know this team could slip up.
Speaker 1: I don't expect them to, but like it could happen,
Speaker 1: and that the unknown and kind of you know, the
Speaker 1: cardiac are the cardiac cards we got on Tuesday in
Speaker 1: Blacksburg in the moment that was stressful, but overall, like
Speaker 1: it does kind of make it more exciting. And I
Speaker 1: always like, I don't know what the expectation is going
Speaker 1: to be for this team when they get to the tournament.
Speaker 1: I think that'll depend upon the draw and of course
Speaker 1: what they do from now until then. But when you know,
Speaker 1: you know, like you could slip up and lose and
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that big of a shock, but you
Speaker 1: also believe in your team and they could make a
Speaker 1: deep run. That's a good place to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a better place to be to know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: it'd be a real stunner if we lose to Oakland
Speaker 1: or Saint Peter's like that. That of course sucks. But
Speaker 1: unexpected success or maybe you know, unknown, you know, spontaneous success,
Speaker 1: it's there's a different level of joy to it, right,
Speaker 1: And let me give you an example. When Louisville made
Speaker 1: the Final four and twenty twelve, that was a hell
Speaker 1: of a ride. They didn't even do Senior Night when
Speaker 1: they lost to South Florida at home to close out
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 2: Beatino was getting crushed, remember that, And then they ended up.
Speaker 1: Going on a run in the Big East tournament that
Speaker 1: nobody expected won that thing, beat Kimba, and then they
Speaker 1: ended up going to the final four, and like that,
Speaker 1: you weren't supposed to be there. Nobody ever saw that happening.
Speaker 1: So like that was a different level of joy. Twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: it was all about a business, like you got it.
Speaker 1: You were supposed to win it all and you did it.
Speaker 1: Still enjoyable, but you know different.
Speaker 2: That same year they that when they lost to Providence, right,
Speaker 2: my guy Bryce Cotton by like, oh yeah a lot.
Speaker 2: And didn't they like they honored their final four team
Speaker 2: and didn't Patino come out for that at halftime or
Speaker 2: after the game.
Speaker 1: Or I don't know anything about the final four thing,
Speaker 1: but I know they got beat by Providence, and I
Speaker 1: believe that game at Providence. And then in two thousand
Speaker 1: and might have been two thousand and nine, that great
Speaker 1: team they went up to Notre Dame and lost to
Speaker 1: Hero and Goady and the Boys by light. It was
Speaker 1: it was Yeah, I think those are two of Rick's
Speaker 1: worst losses ever in Biggie's play. And and of course
Speaker 1: you know those teams ended up being great. All right,
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Speaker 1: with us. I did not give myself much time here
Speaker 1: in our last segment before we hit the top of
Speaker 1: the hour, But real quick, Rick Patino, and I'm not, like,
Speaker 1: you know, going on on my way to kiss the
Speaker 1: ass of the guy who used to coach here. But
Speaker 1: he is a legitimate storyline here in college basketball this season,
Speaker 1: and he's also a legend in the sport. But he's
Speaker 1: the first coach in Division one history to win a
Speaker 1: regular season conference title with five different programs Boston College,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Boston, not Boston College, Boston University, Kentucky, Louisville, Iona,
Speaker 1: and Saint John's. He actually never did it at Providence,
Speaker 1: but yet he did go to a final four there,
Speaker 1: So you know, I feel like he's getting more. I
Speaker 1: don't know he's getting more. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: love because even when people would talk about Rick for
Speaker 1: the scandal stuff, which again, you know the nature of
Speaker 1: what like there's there's some scandal controversy type of stuff
Speaker 1: that happens in sports, and it's going to get attention
Speaker 1: because that's just then that's that's the world. But like
Speaker 1: Rix was prostitutes in the dorm and him have an
Speaker 1: intercourse on a table at an Italian restaurant, So like,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be talked about more than most controversial things,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be you know, it's gonna include a
Speaker 1: lot of jokes. So even throughout that.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, it's back snuck back up on you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it came back, but or I
Speaker 1: just accidentally, I don't know. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: Something something happened. But anyways, nobody would ever tell you
Speaker 1: Rick went a great coach. But now I feel like
Speaker 1: that's being really being like just it's it seems to
Speaker 1: be a consensus feeling throughout college basketball and really sports overall,
Speaker 1: because nobody should be surprised that Rick's doing this. I
Speaker 1: thought Rick may have a little bit of a tough
Speaker 1: time when it comes to leading and coaching and being
Speaker 1: so demanding in this new world. But he's got a
Speaker 1: gift to where he'll he'll challenge a player bring something
Speaker 1: out of them that that they didn't even know they had.
Speaker 1: I mean hearing guys like Terry Ro's Ear, Donovan Mitchell,
Speaker 1: even even Taekwon Dean back in the day, Ellies Miles.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are guys that I remember, not necessarily
Speaker 1: just with me, some of these guys I've had on
Speaker 1: the show, and they've talked about it, whether it's others,
Speaker 1: you just you know, it's something they've mentioned before whenever
Speaker 1: they've done it, they've had an interview, or they spoke
Speaker 1: about coach Patino that I mean, they really it just
Speaker 1: always stood out to me because they ended up surprising
Speaker 1: themselves as far as what they could accomplish, how much
Speaker 1: better they got as players, and they credited all to
Speaker 1: him because they were challenged in a way. And you know,
Speaker 1: once you get a taste of you being able to
Speaker 1: kind of surprise yourself and overachieve internally, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: got to be an addictive drug, right And I think
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the power of Ricurtino. So again, I
Speaker 1: just thought like, you know, he'll be fine at St. John's.
Speaker 1: He'll win. He's a hell of a coach, But like,
Speaker 1: will he break through? And I guess it remains to
Speaker 1: be seen whill he actually like get to a final four.
Speaker 1: He might and if he is, if he does, it's
Speaker 1: not going to be a surprise. But one thing that
Speaker 1: I just you know, didn't realize when he first got
Speaker 1: the Saint John's job, but it's certainly played out this year,
Speaker 1: is that Rick has always been able to adapt under
Speaker 1: any circumstance, and he's done it throughout his entire career.
Speaker 1: And here we are at Saint John's, a new world
Speaker 1: where he's he's he's able to do it. He's buying players,
Speaker 1: he's not recruiting freshman. He's telling you that like he'll,
Speaker 1: he'll he's gonna build this team every year with the
Speaker 1: portal and that's just the way it's gonna be. So
Speaker 1: you know, he's a He's a legend, no doubt. All Right,
Speaker 1: we got to get to the top top of the
Speaker 1: hour break here, but uh, we'll get to this later.
Speaker 1: But the Ville and Russ Smith returning to Freedom Hall
Speaker 1: with the TBT this year, which that's been really exciting,
Speaker 1: and it's been a great summer event that really just
Speaker 1: gets fans going, gets us excited, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: in the summer months, man, it's a drag, but when
Speaker 1: we have the TVT it's always a lot of so
Speaker 1: happy that will be returning and they're going to let
Speaker 1: you host if you make it all the way to
Speaker 1: the championship, which is a nice incentive. So hopefully they
Speaker 1: can pack out Freedom Hall once again this summer. All right,
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