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Speaker 2: joins us not necessarily from behind enemy lines, but he's
Speaker 2: joining us from the Notre Dame side of things Blue
Speaker 2: Andgold dot Com. I guess I'll start with this. Can
Speaker 2: you set the scene for us from the Notre Dame
Speaker 2: side of this? I mean, obviously Louisville. These two teams
Speaker 2: have played each other in recent years. Notre Dame came
Speaker 2: here last year. But what's the vibe from Notre Dame fans.
Speaker 2: Are they feeling confident about this one? Obviously with that
Speaker 2: lost a couple of weeks ago. Every game from here
Speaker 2: on it is super critical for the Irish.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say it's anything but confident, anything but comfortable.
Speaker 3: That lost in Northern Illinois is still sticking with this
Speaker 3: fan base, and quite frankly, the way that Notre Dame
Speaker 3: played last week is kind of sitting with this fan
Speaker 3: base as well. Almost covered a twenty seven and a
Speaker 3: half point spread, which is always something admirable, but the
Speaker 3: way the Irish went about it wasn't convincing for this
Speaker 3: fan base. I would say, and you know, they're only
Speaker 3: up fourteen to three and a half. They're actually losing
Speaker 3: this game. I believe it was three to zero with
Speaker 3: around six minutes to go until halftime, and then Riley
Speaker 3: Leonard does Riley Leonard things and runs into the end
Speaker 3: zone and then not so Riley Leonard things and throws
Speaker 3: a touchdown pass a couple of minutes before halftime, his
Speaker 3: first one of the year. In what was that his
Speaker 3: I don't know, twelfth thirteenth, fourteenth quarter of football this season.
Speaker 3: So it's been a struggle for the offensive side of
Speaker 3: the ball, for sure, but it's been pretty good for
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the ball. But that was the
Speaker 3: case last year, guy is when Notre Dame went down
Speaker 3: to Louisville, and obviously Louisville kind of had its way,
Speaker 3: especially on the ground, with a very good Notre Dame defense.
Speaker 3: So it's a scary proposition because of the opponent. It's
Speaker 3: one that this fan base obviously fears for very recent reasons.
Speaker 3: And then it's a scary proposition because Notre Dame really
Speaker 3: hasn't looked like a world beater by any means, except
Speaker 3: for that game against Perdue. But I think there's going
Speaker 3: to be a lot of teams that look like a
Speaker 3: world beater against Purdue this season. So it's a tough week,
Speaker 3: tough game for the fighting Irish.
Speaker 2: So with Riley Leonard, you know, anybody in the ACC
Speaker 2: should be familiar with him because of his time at
Speaker 2: Duke and he's had success, But what do you think
Speaker 2: has been the biggest factor in why he's yet to
Speaker 2: really get it going with his arm? I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: he's shown his ability to take off and make plays,
Speaker 2: but it just doesn't seem as if Notre Dame fans
Speaker 2: and maybe even Marcus Freeman feel as if he's been
Speaker 2: exactly what they thought they were getting at this point.
Speaker 2: A lot of football to be played, but it certainly
Speaker 2: seems as if, you know, as you mentioned, the office
Speaker 2: just really hasn't gotten going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's puzzling. I think last season injuries definitely have
Speaker 3: a lot to do with it. And I mean he
Speaker 3: was injured when he arrived at Notre Dame. And I
Speaker 3: guess Duke once he said he's not playing anymore last
Speaker 3: season and he was within his right. I mean, he
Speaker 3: was so banged up, like you said, your listeners know
Speaker 3: that from being in the ACC. I guess he didn't
Speaker 3: get the surgery that he needed at that time. And
Speaker 3: then he shows up at Notre Dame and tries to
Speaker 3: go through springball, and within a week Notre Dame realizes,
Speaker 3: oh man, your ankle is still a little wonky. We
Speaker 3: probably need to work on me. So he's had a
Speaker 3: couple of surgeries since he arrived at Notre Dame. He's
Speaker 3: been good since the summer though, he's been healthy. He
Speaker 3: looked healthy in fall camp. We got to see a
Speaker 3: handful of practices, and you know, the body, the physical
Speaker 3: part of it was not the issue. It's been the
Speaker 3: mechanics some of his passes. He's not really stepping into him.
Speaker 3: He's trying to whip things kind of, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to do everything with his arm. But he used to
Speaker 3: know as well as anyone that a lot of this
Speaker 3: is done through the legs. That's just not running the football.
Speaker 3: That's throwing the football as well. You've got to throw
Speaker 3: the football from the ground up. He's not doing that
Speaker 3: right now. And it's funny. You go back to twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two, and let's stay on the theme of y'all's
Speaker 3: listeners knowing Riley Leonard. He was a great quarterback that season.
Speaker 3: I put up his stats in that year up against
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. That's the same year that Caleb Williams won
Speaker 3: the Heisman. Bradley Leonard was actually a better deep ball
Speaker 3: passer in terms of accuracy, touchdowns, you know, you name it,
Speaker 3: statistics wise, twenty plus yards downfield. Bradley Leonard was better
Speaker 3: than Caleb Williams that year. So he has it in
Speaker 3: him and we saw it last week with the thirty
Speaker 3: eight yard touchdown pass to Bill Collins, who has been
Speaker 3: the team's best wide receiver. He can make those throws.
Speaker 3: He's got a trust that he can make those throws.
Speaker 3: And I think that has to do with the injury.
Speaker 3: That has to do with being in a new place,
Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator, new surroundings, do everything, and you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes that takes time to adjust. That's the irony in
Speaker 3: this transfer portal era, especially if you only have one
Speaker 3: year of eligibility left, like rydleany Leondard did. You want
Speaker 3: to go somewhere and you want to make that year
Speaker 3: your best year in college football. It just hasn't happened
Speaker 3: in the first month for Riley Leonard. Not to say
Speaker 3: that it can't. Maybe Louisville is the start of that,
Speaker 3: but it just hasn't happened yet. And you feel for
Speaker 3: him because he's a great kid and you kind of
Speaker 3: want to see him succeed.
Speaker 2: Tyler Horker notre Ame beat Writers our guest joining us
Speaker 2: here on Sports Talk seven ninety getting ready for the
Speaker 2: match up here with the cards in the Irish. I
Speaker 2: would say Jeff Brohm has all but said that the
Speaker 2: game plan for them is going to be, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to trying to get Notre Dame off the field
Speaker 2: on offense and slow that run game down. They are
Speaker 2: top twenty right now currently nationally and rushing yards per game.
Speaker 2: Easier said than done, obviously, And make and make Robby
Speaker 2: Leonard beat you with his arm, and that's something they'd
Speaker 2: probably feel like right now would be their best case scenario.
Speaker 2: Dare him to make plays with his arm and force
Speaker 2: him to do that. But what would you say on
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame side. Louisville they had such a weird
Speaker 2: start of the season with two Nobody opponents in the
Speaker 2: first couple of games. They took care of business in
Speaker 2: those and then at Georgia Tech game where they covered however,
Speaker 2: you know it was it took a special team's touchdown,
Speaker 2: a defensive touchdown, and a game then honestly, with with
Speaker 2: you know, quarter or left, it looked like it could
Speaker 2: go either way. The Cards end up holding on to
Speaker 2: win by twelve. What would you say, you know you've
Speaker 2: been able to see from the From the Louisville side,
Speaker 2: that would be you know, something you could exploit if
Speaker 2: you if you're Marcus Freeman, yeah, stop to run.
Speaker 3: I know Dreard Jordan went crazy against Notre Dame last year,
Speaker 3: and you know it's a new running back contingent back
Speaker 3: there for Notre Dame. So they're gonna have to really
Speaker 3: study those guys all week, and that's what they have
Speaker 3: been doing. But they're a little embarrassed, quite frankly, by
Speaker 3: the way that that game went last year, because you
Speaker 3: remember thirty three to twenty, and I think it was
Speaker 3: even thirty.
Speaker 2: Three to you know, Yeah, there was a late score
Speaker 2: that made it look a little more a little closer.
Speaker 3: I remember that, yeah, But I mean when it was
Speaker 3: tied up or you know, a one score game, whatever
Speaker 3: it was, both teams felt like they could win. It
Speaker 3: was Louisville who kind of went on the assertive, went
Speaker 3: on the offensive on the ground, which which you know,
Speaker 3: I think really sticks with al Golden defensive coordinator at
Speaker 3: Notre Dame, sticks with a lot of these guys who
Speaker 3: have returned. I mean, you guys watched that game last year.
Speaker 3: Going to you're going to recognize a lot of the
Speaker 3: same names back for Notre Dame. And you're talking about
Speaker 3: all American caliber guys who really haven't some of them
Speaker 3: have not played all American football this season. So what
Speaker 3: better opportunity to do that than against a team that
Speaker 3: beat you last season. So I think number one has
Speaker 3: stopped to run for Notre Dame, and then number two
Speaker 3: is winning to turnover battle. I mean, Sam Hartman turned
Speaker 3: the ball over five times last year and it was
Speaker 3: just detrimental in every way. I guarantee you they're telling
Speaker 3: Riley Leonard, Hey, this is what happened against these guys
Speaker 3: last year. You know, Sam Hartman just couldn't take care
Speaker 3: of the football. We need you to take care of
Speaker 3: the football. And that goes for everybody. Jeremiah loved Jadarion Price,
Speaker 3: the two running backs who have Notre Dame in the
Speaker 3: top twenty. Like you said, it's a great rushing attack,
Speaker 3: but what does it mean if you're putting the ball
Speaker 3: on the ground and losing it. What does it mean
Speaker 3: for Rdy Leonard if you're trying to get better for
Speaker 3: the air and really trying to make those strides that
Speaker 3: we were just talking about. If you're going to turn
Speaker 3: the ball over through the air, have an interception in
Speaker 3: the offense comes off the field. So yeah, it's kind
Speaker 3: of that's what's cool about this game. It's similar game
Speaker 3: plans both ways. Both teams think they can win the
Speaker 3: same way. So you're going to kind of see strength
Speaker 3: on strength, and I think that's what makes this matchup
Speaker 3: so good. What more would you expect right from the
Speaker 3: fifteenth and fifteenth ranked teams in the country. I think
Speaker 3: you're going to see a pretty even balanced football game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. The biggest matchup on the slate this
Speaker 2: weekend for college football is the big one Georgia and Alabama.
Speaker 2: But outside of that, I mean, this will be a
Speaker 2: game that a lot of folks are focusing on, as
Speaker 2: you got as you mentioned number sixteen and number fifteen
Speaker 2: in a game that really is huge for Antor. I mean
Speaker 2: it's huge forever. It's hue for both sides. But obviously,
Speaker 2: with Notre Dame having that lost in Northern Illinois, a
Speaker 2: loss here would all but eliminate them from the conversation,
Speaker 2: seemingly from the college football playoff and not to bring
Speaker 2: up a devastating loss for the Irish, but how did
Speaker 2: it happen? I mean it was. It's the biggest upset
Speaker 2: of the season, and seeing how Northern Illinois hasn't really
Speaker 2: been able to I mean they lost last week to Buffalo,
Speaker 2: which was a real surprise, So I mean I watched
Speaker 2: the end of it. You know, because a lot of
Speaker 2: people probably tuned in to see is this about to happen?
Speaker 2: This would be a monster upset. But what was the
Speaker 2: formula that Northern Illinois used that gave them put them
Speaker 2: in a position to where they could pull off that
Speaker 2: kind of an upset because it certainly not as if
Speaker 2: they had a talent advantage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it shouldn't have been that close in the second
Speaker 3: half probably, so it was a slow start for Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Northern Illinois obviously realized that it could stay in that
Speaker 3: football game. I wouldn't say it was totally a slow
Speaker 3: start for Notre Dame, though they went down and scored
Speaker 3: on their first position. Rylan Leonard had a lot to
Speaker 3: do with that. With his legs, I mean, quarterback power,
Speaker 3: quarterback draws, counters, everything. Rydley Leonard was keeping the ball
Speaker 3: on the ground. He's the one that ends up scoring
Speaker 3: the game's opening touchdowns. But after that, MIU got kind
Speaker 3: of a fluky eighty three yard touchdown pass to tie
Speaker 3: the game. Thomas Hammock, the head coach, even said, Okay,
Speaker 3: that was when we realized if we could just stop
Speaker 3: them the next time with NIU did we're going to
Speaker 3: be in this thing and in the second half, so
Speaker 3: Ridley Leonard was dealing with a an injury to his
Speaker 3: non throwing shoulder labor injury. Still dealing with it. Now,
Speaker 3: that's something that doesn't heal. Either play through it or
Speaker 3: you don't. He's chosen to play through it, and he's
Speaker 3: played really well. But what he didn't do in the
Speaker 3: second half that game, play calling and scrambling wise, was
Speaker 3: run the football. He didn't have one single rusting attempt
Speaker 3: in the second half. Guys, this is a quarterback who
Speaker 3: ranked top five among all FBS quarterbacks and total yards
Speaker 3: yards per carry. I think he would be close to
Speaker 3: top five in the FBS if sacks weren't factored into
Speaker 3: his rushing toal I mean, he's averaging seven yards per
Speaker 3: carry with sacks. I think it's over eight and a
Speaker 3: half without the sacks. He's one of the best runners
Speaker 3: in college football. He didn't run the ball once in
Speaker 3: the second half of that game. A guy who had
Speaker 3: one hundred yards and one half against Purdue, a guy
Speaker 3: who had one hundred and forty three yards on the
Speaker 3: ground last week against Miami Ohio. That is the best
Speaker 3: part of this Notre Dame offense. Right now, especially because
Speaker 3: he's struggling throwing the ball is when Riley Leonard keeps
Speaker 3: it and runs it. He didn't do that against Northern
Speaker 3: Illinois and it cost the Irish. They weren't able to
Speaker 3: put it up points on the board. They only needed
Speaker 3: seventeen to win that game sixteen to fourteen final, but
Speaker 3: because he was not running in the second half, things
Speaker 3: went south for the Irish offense. And you know, that's
Speaker 3: that's the recipe for an upset.
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is a program that is always going to
Speaker 2: have very very high standards for good reason. Uh, Marcus Freeman,
Speaker 2: if you were to check the pulse of the fan
Speaker 2: base as of right now, how do you think they
Speaker 2: feel about him as the head coach. I don't want
Speaker 2: to indicate that he could be on the hot seat
Speaker 2: or anything like that. There's a lot of football to
Speaker 2: be played this year, but you know, Notre Dame you
Speaker 2: don't need to just be good, You need to be
Speaker 2: really good. You need to be you need to be elite,
Speaker 2: and they're certainly not that right now. And I'm just
Speaker 2: curious if there's if there's much noise from fans maybe
Speaker 2: just questioning do you think this guy could could could
Speaker 2: stick it out long term and be one of the
Speaker 2: other great coaches that have coached here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a ton of fans that have him on
Speaker 3: the hot seat. Really, you didn't say the words I
Speaker 3: would say it's the fans. It's the fans though.
Speaker 2: As fans do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the administration maybe has him on the warm seat.
Speaker 3: I mean they're looking at things like and you two
Speaker 3: years ago, Marshall Stanford, and just the overall record as well.
Speaker 3: I think it's twenty two and nine through thirty one games.
Speaker 3: He's got nine losses in his first two seasons and change.
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly and his last five seasons on the way
Speaker 3: out to LSU had nine losses. So you're talking about
Speaker 3: it only took half the time for Marcus Freeman to
Speaker 3: accumulate as many losses as Brian Kelly had in his
Speaker 3: last five years.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's pretty telling.
Speaker 3: It's very telling. And I put that on social media
Speaker 3: and people came after me saying, we'll give the guy
Speaker 3: some credit. He's thirty eight, you know, he's learning how
Speaker 3: to do this. And I said, no, no, no, I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to make this about Marcus Freeman versus Brian Kelly,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make this about where Notre Dame is
Speaker 3: with Marcus Freeman versus where it just was with Brian Kelly.
Speaker 3: And you made the point in prefacing the question, this
Speaker 3: is not a truly elite program right now. It's not
Speaker 3: a top five program. It's a top fifteen to twenty program.
Speaker 3: And that's appropriately what they are ranked right now in
Speaker 3: the coaches poll, the AP pole. But that's not where
Speaker 3: Notre Dame wants to be. And to your point about
Speaker 3: maybe losing this game and getting knocked out of the
Speaker 3: college football playerff, nobody who bleeds bloom goal wanted Notre
Speaker 3: Dame to be out of a twelve teen college football
Speaker 3: playoff race before October even hit. I mean, we're not
Speaker 3: even eating Candy Corner carbon pumpkins yet and Notre Dame
Speaker 3: is gonna be out of the college football playoff race.
Speaker 3: That's not a good look on Marcus Freeman. So this
Speaker 3: is one of his biggest games of his venuine. I mean,
Speaker 3: I get it, the Irish have to win every game
Speaker 3: from here on out, probably to get into the playoffs.
Speaker 3: But again, it's that proposition of already being out that's
Speaker 3: kind of scary and to your larger point about the fans,
Speaker 3: that's what they're worried about. They don't want to go
Speaker 3: into this by week at three and two. They be
Speaker 3: feeling a lot better if it was four and one.
Speaker 3: Obviously they'd be feeling a lot better if it was
Speaker 3: five to zero. But it's kind of a constant worry.
Speaker 3: That's the way I would describe the Marcus Freeman eras
Speaker 3: so far as you got all these great things, the recruiting,
Speaker 3: he's a stand up guy. The way he coaches these
Speaker 3: guys is so admirable, but there's always this constant worry
Speaker 3: that maybe they're gonna slip up the NIU, maybe they're
Speaker 3: gonna lose to an acc team like Louisville that Brian
Speaker 3: Kelly wouldn't have lost to for so long. So it's
Speaker 3: it's not quite pins and needles, but it's getting to
Speaker 3: that point.
Speaker 2: Last question for you. I saw that they have decided
Speaker 2: to wear the green uniforms. How rare is this? I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, uniform social media stuff has become a big
Speaker 2: deal with college football fans, and I know each team
Speaker 2: does a really good job of putting out the UNI
Speaker 2: thread pictures and whatnot, and you know, fans love that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, But is that I mean, I've seen
Speaker 2: them wear green before, but I do feel like it's
Speaker 2: pretty rare and given the attention that it's got, I mean,
Speaker 2: is this like a once a season, once every few
Speaker 2: seasons kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so it's a once a season thing in
Speaker 3: the Freeman era. And Freeman's only been here for three years.
Speaker 3: So he kind of got on social media a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago and said, we're bringing back irishwear green,
Speaker 3: and that means the players wear green too, because Notre
Speaker 3: name has always had an Irish wear green game for
Speaker 3: I think going back to you know, Dan Devine, heear
Speaker 3: so we're talking nineteen seventies and they wore the green
Speaker 3: jerseys more back then. But it was a thing for
Speaker 3: the fans to show up in green, which is not always.
Speaker 3: You know, you'll see Notre Dame Stadium for the Miami
Speaker 3: Ohio game, for instance, you see a lot of blue
Speaker 3: and gold in the stand. This week, you're gonna see
Speaker 3: all green. It's a green out. But that didn't mean
Speaker 3: that the players were gonna wear green. That announcement came
Speaker 3: out today and so yeah, in the Freeman are this
Speaker 3: would be the third time, so once per year. The
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly era that was a dozen years, they only
Speaker 3: wore green jersey six times, So it was very much
Speaker 3: pick and choose, like every other year type of thing
Speaker 3: for Brian Kelly. A lot of times it was the
Speaker 3: Shamrock series game which Notre Dame goes out and plays
Speaker 3: at you know, an NFL venue or her historic and
Speaker 3: you they're playing Army in Yankee Stadium this year and
Speaker 3: they're wearing some blue gray jerseys to kind of go
Speaker 3: back to the four Horsemen to allude to that story.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's rare in the last two three decades,
Speaker 3: I would say. But again you go back to like
Speaker 3: r PR season and Dan Devine, they were wearing green
Speaker 3: all the time. Lou Holtz was actually kind of a
Speaker 3: guy who said, we're not going to be doing this.
Speaker 3: We're blue and gold. Those are her colors. And I
Speaker 3: believe in the eleven year Lou Holtz era, they only
Speaker 3: wore green jerseys twice. So s Upton, the head coach,
Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman, wants to do it once per year. He
Speaker 3: wasn't sure if that was going to be a thing
Speaker 3: for this game because he didn't want distractions. I just
Speaker 3: talked about how big this game is for Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: It's huge. If the team captains would have said, hey,
Speaker 3: we want to wear our traditional home blue uniforms, that's
Speaker 3: what they would have done, but Marcus Freeman left it
Speaker 3: up to the captain. The captain said, let's wear green.
Speaker 3: And that's what you'll see against Louisville. If you have
Speaker 3: a Peacock subscription, that's right, what you will see against
Speaker 3: Louisville on Saturday, the Green Jerseys.
Speaker 2: Taler, I really appreciate you making time. Very good stuff,
Speaker 2: very insightful. I hope you enjoy the game and maybe
Speaker 2: we'll catch up down the line.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I appreciate you guys having me young.
Speaker 2: Take care. That is Tyler Hooker. Really good stuff there, really,
Speaker 2: I mean, really good insight from the Notre Dame side
Speaker 2: of things. And I'm not at all surprised to hear
Speaker 2: the emphasis here, you know, and we're not in South Bend.
Speaker 2: There's not a ton of Notre Dame fans around here.
Speaker 2: And it's not as if I've been consuming, you know,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame fan sites or anything like that, but you know,
Speaker 2: I get since they're even a little surprised by this
Speaker 2: spread being a touchdown, and it almost feels like, after
Speaker 2: hearing that, maybe they don't think they even deserve the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt because of that, because the season
Speaker 2: has not been you know, it's not been great for
Speaker 2: him up to this point. So big matchup on Saturday,
Speaker 2: and I can't tell if that I mean, it's exciting
Speaker 2: to me knowing that this is a huge game where
Speaker 2: the opponent is not looking at you like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: like you're not gonna sleek up on them. They're they're
Speaker 2: well aware, and that's exciting because it's a big time game. However,
Speaker 2: you know, if they can lock in, it makes them
Speaker 2: even more dangerous, and they have very little room for air.
Speaker 2: In fact, they have no room for air when it
Speaker 2: comes to winning and losing the rest of the way
Speaker 2: if they want to sniff the playoff. But let's get
Speaker 2: to a quick break. We'll come back on the other side.
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Speaker 2: It seems like it's already kind of died down a
Speaker 2: little bit. As far as the UNLV situation yesterday where
Speaker 2: two players on a three and zero team it was,
Speaker 2: or were they four and no? Either way, they were
Speaker 2: undefeated with not big wins. But they did beat Kansas
Speaker 2: before people realize Kansas stunk, and they beat Houston, so
Speaker 2: you know, they're beating G five teams, G four teams,
Speaker 2: and those are supposed to be the really hard games
Speaker 2: for them, and they're expected to be the best team
Speaker 2: in the Mountain West. So they are a team that
Speaker 2: is certainly in the mix for the playoff. And they
Speaker 2: had their quarterback walk away. Now we know now that
Speaker 2: he did not get any of the money that he
Speaker 2: was told by an assistant coach that he was going
Speaker 2: to get, and that I don't want to get all
Speaker 2: into the entire thing we did yesterday, but I still
Speaker 2: am surprised that there are many that you know, are
Speaker 2: bringing up this kid. Quit this again. It's it's a job. Now,
Speaker 2: it's work, It's not I mean, and this guy is
Speaker 2: not going to go to the NFL. He knows that
Speaker 2: this guy is really not solely responsible for their great start.
Speaker 2: He's been their quarterback, so he's been a part of it,
Speaker 2: but he is utilizing the new world of college football.
Speaker 2: He's a good enough quarterback that schools would want him,
Speaker 2: and he's going to make football his job for a
Speaker 2: year and probably make more money in his first year
Speaker 2: in his only year doing that, than he would in
Speaker 2: his first year in whatever career he decides, if that
Speaker 2: makes sense. So, like, I still think fans aren't programmed
Speaker 2: to look at it that way. You know, I he
Speaker 2: quit on his team, He's a quitter. This is a
Speaker 2: job now. I mean, I just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I want to throw this aspect out there. Do you
Speaker 4: think because of the nature of how he's handled do
Speaker 4: you think that from other coaches perspectives, not un LV
Speaker 4: head coaches, but guys who may want to have him
Speaker 4: on their team in the future, do you think the
Speaker 4: way that Matt Sluca has handled it could be problematic
Speaker 4: for him moving forward with other coaches.
Speaker 2: I am sure he probably had that in mind when
Speaker 2: he made the decision and was willing to do what's
Speaker 2: best for him. And I don't blame him and coaches.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to continue to complain about this
Speaker 2: new world, you know, and talk about it, and it's
Speaker 2: legitimately complaining about when it comes to there being no
Speaker 2: real like, if we're gonna do this, we gotta have
Speaker 2: guard rails, we gotta have a system that's that's that's legit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean these coaches, they they would they
Speaker 2: wouldn't coach if they weren't getting paid. And that's that's
Speaker 2: unusual for them to even be in that spot because
Speaker 2: those who coached college football for a long time, it's
Speaker 2: never been a job before, but now it is. I mean,
Speaker 2: especially for guys in that situation who's just sticking around
Speaker 2: to play because he is taking advantage of not only
Speaker 2: a fifty year guy they can transfer and use one
Speaker 2: more year, but also he can make some money. So no,
Speaker 2: I think that'll be a red flag in the eyes
Speaker 2: of some. But those who adapt and just accept for it,
Speaker 2: accept it for what it is, they're the ones who
Speaker 2: are gonna have the best success navigating through this. So
Speaker 2: I don't think the guy's even that special because U
Speaker 2: and LV was the best school that that that was
Speaker 2: in on him. But that doesn't changed the fact that
Speaker 2: he is entitled to not continue to perform and work
Speaker 2: a job that he's not getting paid. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: he learned the hard way about getting in and writing,
Speaker 2: getting an agent that's actually certified in the state that
Speaker 2: he's gonna be playing and all that, but that really
Speaker 2: is beside the point, because you know, either way, he
Speaker 2: still isn't getting paid what he was told by the coach,
Speaker 2: and that's something he's you know, he's gonna take the
Speaker 2: matter into his own hands and just say, look, all right,
Speaker 2: that's bad business. I'm gonna walk away, and I'll still
Speaker 2: have a year to play elsewhere. But those are those
Speaker 2: that are asking why UNLV is in such a tough
Speaker 2: spot within il and and also financially, you know, apparently
Speaker 2: they are. They are one of the Mountain West schools that,
Speaker 2: from a financial standpoint is is just desperate to get
Speaker 2: the most money they can because they need it. They're
Speaker 2: broke and the and I don't want to nerd out
Speaker 2: on Mountain West packed to nonsense because I don't know
Speaker 2: nobody really cares. But one thing that I did not
Speaker 2: know is that when it comes to the there's a
Speaker 2: certain fee sociated with all this stuff. Right, You've got
Speaker 2: a poaching fee or something that a conference would pay
Speaker 2: for taking your tea, your got your your member, and
Speaker 2: then you've got the buyout fee and whatnot. And no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: UNLV is banking on doing whatever is going to get
Speaker 2: in the most money. But yet there's a lot of
Speaker 2: UNLV fans that are acknowledging they're they're going to put
Speaker 2: the conference in a worse spot from their from their
Speaker 2: or they're gonna put there, They're gonna put the program,
Speaker 2: the school and a worse spot as far as conference
Speaker 2: filiation because they're desperate for money, when a lot of
Speaker 2: people in their same situation don't believe that all that
Speaker 2: money is is coming just because it'll be in court forever,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's such a such a mess. But
Speaker 2: one thing when it comes to NIL that I think
Speaker 2: hurts U n l V is that, yes, they are
Speaker 2: a big market and they haven't really had pro teams
Speaker 2: until recently. Now they have the Raiders and they've got
Speaker 2: who else.
Speaker 3: Do they have?
Speaker 2: They get a baseball team they are they're getting the
Speaker 2: A's I think, and then they also have the the
Speaker 2: hockey team that, yeah, the hockey team who got off
Speaker 2: to a great start. And then of course their WNBA
Speaker 2: team does really well there. So you know, they are
Speaker 2: becoming a pro sports town and they'll be they'll they'll
Speaker 2: be a team there in Vegas. I'm sure at some point,
Speaker 2: But there's no city maybe in the country as far
Speaker 2: as the size that is filled with more people who
Speaker 2: are not from there. It is transplant city. I bet
Speaker 2: a lot of people who live there they got a
Speaker 2: story about how they ended up living there. Right, So
Speaker 2: nobody cares about UNLV among those people because they don't
Speaker 2: have any connection to it, right, They just don't care.
Speaker 2: They didn't go to school. But you know, so it's
Speaker 2: just a different type of city. Yeah, it's larger, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's I mean, it's a hell of a place. It's
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. There's a lot of money there,
Speaker 2: But UNLV doesn't. I mean, again, the majority of the
Speaker 2: people that I that I think live there, even those
Speaker 2: that are in in business and have success there, probably
Speaker 2: are not. You know, they're not from there and they're
Speaker 2: not affiliated there. And now you know, like the Raiders,
Speaker 2: when they host teams, they're going to get a lot
Speaker 2: of fans from I mean sometimes depending on who they play,
Speaker 2: they'll be the road team because yeah, one one, that
Speaker 2: stadium's humongous. But also like the Raiders, they moved all
Speaker 2: over they you know, they bounced around, and I'd still
Speaker 2: say the bulk of their fans are not in Vegas.
Speaker 2: They're in Oakland in the Bay Area, So I can
Speaker 2: see how they would struggle in that aspect to where
Speaker 2: there's just not a whole like there's not a lot
Speaker 2: of like community funding for NIL and really just with
Speaker 2: you know, before NIL existed, they probably weren't doing great
Speaker 2: when it comes to just getting like corporate donations from
Speaker 2: certain you know, from from from you know, local like
Speaker 2: for example, Louisville. Let's look at all the great corporations
Speaker 2: here that have local ties that have been generous to
Speaker 2: the University of Louisville. Obviously not anymore, but Papa John's,
Speaker 2: I mean that's a company that was started right here
Speaker 2: and that was the that mean without Papa John himself
Speaker 2: and the money that that was that was given, I mean,
Speaker 2: you eventually would have had somebody, but they helped you
Speaker 2: put your big stadium together. That really changed a lot
Speaker 2: for you as a football program. Not to say there
Speaker 2: aren't companies that have started in Vegas, but like, I
Speaker 2: just don't think there's there's there's all. It's not a
Speaker 2: local community with a lot of people who have been
Speaker 2: born and who were born and raised there and this
Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff. It's just different. So not
Speaker 2: to say that they shouldn't have better resources, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but like, I'm not surprised in the grand scheme of
Speaker 2: things that UNLV doesn't have a big, a big bank
Speaker 2: roll when it comes to big fans with big money
Speaker 2: in Vegas, because I think people with big money in
Speaker 2: Vegas do not care how UNLV football. I mentioned they
Speaker 2: beat Kansas before anybody knew that Kansas stunk, and I mean,
Speaker 2: it seems silly now that they ranked Kansas in the preseason,
Speaker 2: like Kansas sucked for so long and then they like
Speaker 2: weren't terrible and then they became decent to kind of good,
Speaker 2: and it just it made you think that they were
Speaker 2: actually better than they were because the shock value of
Speaker 2: Kansas actually winning games made it seem as if like,
Speaker 2: instead of being you know, seven and five, you thought
Speaker 2: they were felt like die in three because it's Kansas
Speaker 2: and they have gotten off to a terrible start this
Speaker 2: year that like, again, nobody cares about it's Kansas. They're
Speaker 2: gonna go back to being irrelevant like they've been for
Speaker 2: the bulk of my life. I would say, but this
Speaker 2: is a wild stat They've been out scored forty eight
Speaker 2: to seventeen in the final five minutes of halves this season,
Speaker 2: so towards the end of each half, first half, second half.
Speaker 2: Throughout all of their games, they've been outscored forty eight
Speaker 2: to seventeen. And again, they were ranked in the preseason.
Speaker 2: They've lost now three consecutive games where they had fourth
Speaker 2: quarter leads, including an eleven point blown lead that they
Speaker 2: had this past weekend before losing. Not even sure, I
Speaker 2: don't remember who it was they lost to, but yeah,
Speaker 2: they're they're not having a good star, which is the
Speaker 2: norm for them. But man, how about being a Kansas
Speaker 2: football fan with the last eighteen months or so, you
Speaker 2: kind of felt like, oh, we're getting we're getting good.
Speaker 2: You know what it is?
Speaker 4: It's Indiana and Kansas keep trading back and forth. Only
Speaker 4: one of those teams can be good at the same time.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, I don't think Indiana has
Speaker 2: ever been as bad as Kansas was for a while.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, you all are in that tier of
Speaker 2: like never really consistently having like relevant football, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and they and they're there too, but like there were
Speaker 2: a few years where they were I mean, they were
Speaker 2: worse than some FCS teams like they were God off,
Speaker 2: they're zero to.
Speaker 4: Twelve, one and eleven.
Speaker 2: That ian stuff. I mean in credit to Lance Leepold.
Speaker 2: I mean, I he should have got out of there
Speaker 2: whenever he had the chance. I mean, because I mean
Speaker 2: he could still potentially probably get out after this year.
Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe he's not that great of
Speaker 2: a coach. How are you feeling about the Hoosiers game
Speaker 2: this weekend.
Speaker 4: I've got him covering, But that was also before which
Speaker 4: the spread seven seven and a half by the way,
Speaker 4: for those interested, But with the you know, the hurricane
Speaker 4: stuff coming in, it's it's expected to potentially impact Bloomington,
Speaker 4: So I don't know how that's going to affect the
Speaker 4: style of play. But I'm confident that Signett he's gonna
Speaker 4: have him ready for anything. We'll see.
Speaker 2: What does Maryland have.
Speaker 4: I mean, they've got a really good wide receiver named
Speaker 4: ty Helton or Felton. I don't remember how you say,
Speaker 4: is ya I've heard of I know you're talking about,
Speaker 4: and he's one of the top receivers I believe in
Speaker 4: the entire country.
Speaker 2: To me, like, with it being this early in the season,
Speaker 2: wouldn't they just be a team that you just you
Speaker 2: throw them in the middle right now in the Big
Speaker 2: Ten and know that they're probably not They're not towards
Speaker 2: the top, but they're not towards the bottom. Yeah.
Speaker 4: What's interesting, Usually the winner of this game between Indiana
Speaker 4: and Maryland they used to be division rivals. The winner
Speaker 4: would usually go on to have a fairly decent season.
Speaker 4: Maryland killed Indiana last year. I believe they ended up
Speaker 4: being eight and four. And Indiana's had years in the past,
Speaker 4: you know, during the Tom Allen era where they beat
Speaker 4: Maryland and they went on to have good seasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, they beat Yukon fifty to seven,
Speaker 2: they beat Virginia twenty seven thirteen. Virgina sucks. They beat Villanova,
Speaker 2: who's FCS, and then they lost to Michigan State, which
Speaker 2: is not a good loss for them. I mean, Michigan
Speaker 2: State just lost to Boston College. So in Boston College
Speaker 2: is not you know what. They they're not terrible, but
Speaker 2: that's not something you'd look at in the Big Ten
Speaker 2: and say, yeah, that's a quality loss. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm eager. I'm gonna I'm gonna watch a lot
Speaker 2: of that game. I haven't seen the Hoosiers a whole
Speaker 2: lot this year, but they're at noon. Louivill done play
Speaker 2: till later in the day. So I'm gonna check it
Speaker 2: out and see it and I'll be pulled. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna bet on it, but I'm gonna be going.
Speaker 4: For me because I'll be I mean, unless something happens,
Speaker 4: I'll be out loud than like.
Speaker 2: I'll take your shift for the Hoosier game and we'll
Speaker 2: you know, we'll see what happens real quick before we
Speaker 2: get to our next break. If you are interested in
Speaker 2: in some of these some of these stats and facts.
Speaker 2: In the first four weeks of college football, when it
Speaker 2: comes to sports betting, there are looks like six teams
Speaker 2: seven teams that are zero to four against the spread
Speaker 2: that have not have not covered yet this year, regardless
Speaker 2: off it's because they're favored or you know, underdogs. Wyoming
Speaker 2: Actually here it is these are her and four against
Speaker 2: the spread teams with non cover margin for game. So
Speaker 2: these are the teams that haven't covered, but also like
Speaker 2: they've been way off, like the sports books can't figure
Speaker 2: them out. Wyoming minus nineteen point one, that's how off
Speaker 2: they've been and not covered. NC State minus sixteen point four,
Speaker 2: Kent State minus fifteen point three, Middle Tennessee State minus
Speaker 2: fourteen point six, LSU minus ten point four, TCU minus
Speaker 2: seven point six, and Kansas minus seven point five. Teams
Speaker 2: that have not covered it all this year. A lot
Speaker 2: of those are included, but North Carolina hadn't covered a
Speaker 2: game this year, Wake Forest, Middle Tennessee State, Arizona. These
Speaker 2: are teams that it might not And I haven't looked
Speaker 2: at the lines on these games specifically, but those are
Speaker 2: teams that you might start fading because stubbornness can be
Speaker 2: a thing within within the initial line that you see
Speaker 2: that comes out now. Obviously there's a lot that impacts
Speaker 2: if it moves one way or the other throughout the week.
Speaker 2: But Louisville, for example, you made a lot of money
Speaker 2: when Bobby was here in his last year because they
Speaker 2: would still get a respectable line as an underdog, because
Speaker 2: everybody would just know, like, hey, Louisville, they suck, but
Speaker 2: they got better players than Virginia in Boston College. So
Speaker 2: like they'd be eighteen point dogs and I'd be sitting
Speaker 2: here thinking they'll lose by double that, Like I'm watching
Speaker 2: this team playing and play like they're gonna get killed
Speaker 2: and you can make money doing that. So I'm not
Speaker 2: sure what potential team that is this year, but keep
Speaker 2: that in mind now. As far as teams that are
Speaker 2: perfect against the spread, Louisville and Indiana are two of
Speaker 2: those teams. Other teams Army, Boston College, Bowling, Green BYU,
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan, Illinois, Ole, Miss Pitts, San Jose State, Tennessee, Texas,
Speaker 2: Central Florida, and UNLV who we just talked about. So
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if that's interesting to you,
Speaker 2: but these are teams that have absolutely taken care of
Speaker 2: business one way or the other. Right, they've either won
Speaker 2: every game with some cushion or they've lost but did
Speaker 2: better than the odds makers expected. All right, quick break,
Speaker 2: we'll come back on the other side and wrap up
Speaker 2: the four o'clock hour. Keep this thing rolling along. It
Speaker 2: is Coffee and Company here on Sports Talk seven ninety,
Speaker 2: So you're going a louder than live tonight. Who's the
Speaker 2: is it? Slip Knot?
Speaker 4: Slip Knot, five Finger, Death Punch and the Offspring the
Speaker 4: three biggest names tonight.
Speaker 2: I've heard of all of these, All of these groups
Speaker 2: don't know a whole lot about them. I know that
Speaker 2: they're a big deal in there, you know, in that
Speaker 2: in that genre, in that space rock uh, slipknot more metal, yeah,
Speaker 2: slip not really.
Speaker 4: All three of the offspring is kind of punk rocket yeah,
Speaker 4: but both of those Finger Death, Punch and Slip not
Speaker 4: they fit into that heavy metal category.
Speaker 2: So you've gone to this event many years, right, it's
Speaker 2: to be the fourth year, I believe. For me, what
Speaker 2: do you expect in as far as the crowd, I mean,
Speaker 2: I get a similar vibe to last week. As far
Speaker 2: as just there's a lot of people here in town.
Speaker 2: I don't really know what to expect.
Speaker 4: I do think it's going to be not as croud
Speaker 4: as Bourbon and Beyond for the first time probably in
Speaker 4: the history of both of these festivals, and maybe even
Speaker 4: less so because of the rain. I do think for
Speaker 4: people who come out of town, they're going to go regardless.
Speaker 4: But I think you may see locals, potentially, especially in
Speaker 4: the coming days, maybe decide not to go. But I mean,
Speaker 4: people spend a lot of money on these tickets as well,
Speaker 4: so maybe if as long as they don't cancel it,
Speaker 4: maybe you won't see that much of a difference. When
Speaker 4: it comes to turn out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just saw that. Mayor Greenberg tweeted out the
Speaker 2: severity of these these storms heading our way, says attention level.
Speaker 2: We were expected to have heavy rainfall all day Friday
Speaker 2: and into the weekend, so it's important to stay safe,
Speaker 2: monitor the weather except expect severe conditions this weekend. Please
Speaker 2: take precautions, uh, and be and be prepared. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know if if there's like a a level
Speaker 2: of fear or level of threat that that does require
Speaker 2: the mayor to tell people to be careful. I mean,
Speaker 2: or he's just you know, being nice and trying to
Speaker 2: keep people, you know, aware of what's going on. Because
Speaker 2: if you, like, if you if you are unplugged, and
Speaker 2: I find it hard to believe, but if you're unplugged
Speaker 2: from anything when it comes to the news. You don't
Speaker 2: listen to the radio, you don't turn your TV on.
Speaker 2: You know, you're on the internet. But you know it's
Speaker 2: not about like anybody covering local weather around here. Like
Speaker 2: I guess you could be you know, in the dark
Speaker 2: on this whole thing. But I don't know, I get
Speaker 2: the sense that like this is hitting a level of like, oh, guys,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be crazy. Everybody be prepared, which you know,
Speaker 2: better safe than sorry. But I just would be really
Speaker 2: sad for everybody involved in the Louder Than Live festival
Speaker 2: if there was like a day they couldn't do it
Speaker 2: because of how windy it was and just because of
Speaker 2: how you know, how severe the rain and the flooding was.
Speaker 2: But not to insult them, but like I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like this group would not care, like a lot
Speaker 2: of people who those who are here traveling, that are
Speaker 2: here for four straight days of being there all day,
Speaker 2: like they ain't scared of right, they ain't scared to win. No,
Speaker 2: they're lost to this.
Speaker 4: As long as old Danny Wimmer lets everybody into the festival,
Speaker 4: they're gonna be there.
Speaker 2: And I'm curious, not that it matters, but like can
Speaker 2: he be shut down? Like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like does somebody somebody have authority to say you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to have this event because of how severe the weather.
Speaker 4: Is looking like I don't know if the City of
Speaker 4: Louisville has I don't authority over there or maybe the
Speaker 4: Expo Center that type of thing.
Speaker 2: Because like I know it's certain like certain places it's
Speaker 2: in fact Like whenever you've got a weather situation at
Speaker 2: a stadium for a football game, it is a the host,
Speaker 2: the school, they're following their own conferences protocols for weather
Speaker 2: and whatnot. But like for an event like this, I
Speaker 2: really don't, you know.
Speaker 4: Obviously lightning is the big one. I don't know how
Speaker 4: big of a threat lightning is in what's coming over
Speaker 4: the next couple of days. But the biggest things that
Speaker 4: we've both been hearing is heavy rain and potentially really
Speaker 4: high winds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm a little skeptical that it's going to
Speaker 2: be as bad as they say, because typically that's that's
Speaker 2: you know, that's the and I hope it's not as
Speaker 2: bad as they see. And that's not and that's not
Speaker 2: you know, that's not to say they suck. They're always wrong,
Speaker 2: because again they're even if you are somebody that believes
Speaker 2: they are at times trying to worry us a little bit,
Speaker 2: to get us on the edge of our seats, so
Speaker 2: we are likely to tune into what they're saying and doing.
Speaker 2: Even if you believe that a little bit, which I do,
Speaker 2: it's still their job to, like, you know, give you
Speaker 2: the give you the full like you know, the full
Speaker 2: worst case, best case kind of thing. So again, I'm
Speaker 2: hopeful that it's not that bad. Not because I want
Speaker 2: to dunk on them and say that they're idiots, but
Speaker 2: just because you know that would be when you have
Speaker 2: a big event that brings so much to the city
Speaker 2: of Louisville, with tourism and just people here enjoying Louisville.
Speaker 2: You know you don't want whether to get in the way.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's one thing we don't control. Mother
Speaker 2: Nature decides what happens with that kind of stuff, nobody else,
Speaker 2: and hopefully she's she's a fan of rock metal music,
Speaker 2: and she decides.
Speaker 4: Mother Nature has a name this week too, it's Helene.
Speaker 2: It's right Helene. That get her out of here. John.
Speaker 2: We don't want, we don't want any of Helene heading
Speaker 2: our way. You're not gonna be watching football saturdaycause you're
Speaker 2: gonna be a loter than life. But are you Are
Speaker 2: you betting anything?
Speaker 4: I am bet and I already mentioned I'm taking Indiana
Speaker 4: minus seven and a half.
Speaker 2: I wish I had it.
Speaker 4: I wish you're gonna ask me, and it's not your
Speaker 4: fas Okay, I would have had it pulled up and
Speaker 4: let you know, my other two legs are. But I
Speaker 4: am getting in on some action this weekend.
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of confidence because last week
Speaker 2: I was really confident about a few picks and they
Speaker 2: were way off. But I do think Miami minus seventeen
Speaker 2: and a half against Virginia Tech. I like that. I
Speaker 2: know it's a lot of points, but Virginia Tech is
Speaker 2: just not that good of a football team, and as
Speaker 2: of now, I'm gonna that Miami is as good as advertised.
Speaker 2: Cam Ward is the real difference maker in my opinion
Speaker 2: for Miami, not just being okay, hey, they're pretty good
Speaker 2: this year. They're usually underwhelming. I think they could be
Speaker 2: like as good as not anybody, but they're they're loaded
Speaker 2: and talent's always been in a good place for Miami
Speaker 2: obviously in certain I mean, they had they teams back
Speaker 2: in the early two thousands that had the insane amount
Speaker 2: of NFL players on them. But like that's what people say,
Speaker 2: why is Miami? Why have they not been able to
Speaker 2: get back to being the U and winning national championships?
Speaker 2: They recruit really well every year, and that's true, but
Speaker 2: they've never It's been a long time since they had
Speaker 2: a really good quarterback, and I think cam Ward's that guy.
Speaker 2: And a really really good quarterback that's in a good
Speaker 2: system with talent everywhere else. That's a good recipe to
Speaker 2: have success. So I like Miami minus seventeen and a half.
Speaker 2: I've got some other games that I that I'm kind
Speaker 2: of wavering on as far as what I want to do.
Speaker 2: We can get to that in the five o'clock hour.
Speaker 2: But let's get a quick break out of the way
Speaker 2: and we'll get to the five o'clock hour and welcome
Speaker 2: in Ken Spencer from WHAS eleven. Get his thoughts on
Speaker 2: both matchups for the local teams this weekend, and uh
Speaker 2: finished this thing strong. One more hour to go. It's
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