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<v Speaker 2>As we get closer to Saturn to Saturday, I'm starting

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<v Speaker 2>to get a little a little more jealous of those

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<v Speaker 2>that are making the trip. There was no way I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be able to make it happen, and you know, that's life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes that's just going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 2>But I get the sense there's gonna be a decent

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<v Speaker 2>amount of red up there. I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if we'll see what we saw back in twenty fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>because that was insane when Louisville went up there in

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<v Speaker 2>their first year in the ACC Reggie Bonafin at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure there's been other fans that traveled

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<v Speaker 2>and really, you know, made their mark. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you're never going to get a home field advantage at

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<v Speaker 2>South Bend, but it was honestly something that I look

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<v Speaker 2>back on when you when you look at highlights of

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<v Speaker 2>those games and whatnot, or that game, I should say,

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<v Speaker 2>like you can just tell at any point when they're

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<v Speaker 2>showing a highlight that like there's there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 2>small sea of red and of course the Louisville section,

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<v Speaker 2>but then they're sprinkled in there, and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>big moment for the program not to gas up Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, there was a while where Louisville, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just playing teams like that. It wasn't It was a

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<v Speaker 2>real rarity. And you know now that's not the case

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<v Speaker 2>because things have certainly changed. All right, is Coffee and

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to say it, But I mean, if they let me,

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<v Speaker 2>can't do that. We got to talk football. And joining

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<v Speaker 2>us now to talk some football is Tyler Horker, who

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<v Speaker 2>joins us not necessarily from behind enemy lines, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>joining us from the Notre Dame side of things Blue

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<v Speaker 2>Andgold dot Com. I guess I'll start with this. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you set the scene for us from the Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>side of this? I mean, obviously Louisville. These two teams

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<v Speaker 2>have played each other in recent years. Notre Dame came

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<v Speaker 2>here last year. But what's the vibe from Notre Dame fans.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they feeling confident about this one? Obviously with that

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<v Speaker 2>lost a couple of weeks ago. Every game from here

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<v Speaker 2>on it is super critical for the Irish.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd say it's anything but confident, anything but comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>That lost in Northern Illinois is still sticking with this

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<v Speaker 3>fan base, and quite frankly, the way that Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 3>played last week is kind of sitting with this fan

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<v Speaker 3>base as well. Almost covered a twenty seven and a

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<v Speaker 3>half point spread, which is always something admirable, but the

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<v Speaker 3>way the Irish went about it wasn't convincing for this

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<v Speaker 3>fan base. I would say, and you know, they're only

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<v Speaker 3>up fourteen to three and a half. They're actually losing

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<v Speaker 3>this game. I believe it was three to zero with

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<v Speaker 3>around six minutes to go until halftime, and then Riley

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<v Speaker 3>Leonard does Riley Leonard things and runs into the end

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<v Speaker 3>zone and then not so Riley Leonard things and throws

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<v Speaker 3>a touchdown pass a couple of minutes before halftime, his

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<v Speaker 3>first one of the year. In what was that his

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, twelfth thirteenth, fourteenth quarter of football this season.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been a struggle for the offensive side of

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, for sure, but it's been pretty good for

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<v Speaker 3>the defensive side of the ball. But that was the

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<v Speaker 3>case last year, guy is when Notre Dame went down

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<v Speaker 3>to Louisville, and obviously Louisville kind of had its way,

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<v Speaker 3>especially on the ground, with a very good Notre Dame defense.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a scary proposition because of the opponent. It's

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<v Speaker 3>one that this fan base obviously fears for very recent reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's a scary proposition because Notre Dame really

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't looked like a world beater by any means, except

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<v Speaker 3>for that game against Perdue. But I think there's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a lot of teams that look like a

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<v Speaker 3>world beater against Purdue this season. So it's a tough week,

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<v Speaker 3>tough game for the fighting Irish.

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<v Speaker 2>So with Riley Leonard, you know, anybody in the ACC

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<v Speaker 2>should be familiar with him because of his time at

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<v Speaker 2>Duke and he's had success, But what do you think

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<v Speaker 2>has been the biggest factor in why he's yet to

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<v Speaker 2>really get it going with his arm? I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>he's shown his ability to take off and make plays,

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<v Speaker 2>but it just doesn't seem as if Notre Dame fans

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe even Marcus Freeman feel as if he's been

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what they thought they were getting at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of football to be played, but it certainly

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<v Speaker 2>seems as if, you know, as you mentioned, the office

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<v Speaker 2>just really hasn't gotten going.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's puzzling. I think last season injuries definitely have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot to do with it. And I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>was injured when he arrived at Notre Dame. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess Duke once he said he's not playing anymore last

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<v Speaker 3>season and he was within his right. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 3>was so banged up, like you said, your listeners know

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<v Speaker 3>that from being in the ACC. I guess he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get the surgery that he needed at that time. And

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<v Speaker 3>then he shows up at Notre Dame and tries to

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<v Speaker 3>go through springball, and within a week Notre Dame realizes,

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<v Speaker 3>oh man, your ankle is still a little wonky. We

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<v Speaker 3>probably need to work on me. So he's had a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of surgeries since he arrived at Notre Dame. He's

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<v Speaker 3>been good since the summer though, he's been healthy. He

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<v Speaker 3>looked healthy in fall camp. We got to see a

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<v Speaker 3>handful of practices, and you know, the body, the physical

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<v Speaker 3>part of it was not the issue. It's been the

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<v Speaker 3>mechanics some of his passes. He's not really stepping into him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's trying to whip things kind of, you know, trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do everything with his arm. But he used to

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<v Speaker 3>know as well as anyone that a lot of this

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<v Speaker 3>is done through the legs. That's just not running the football.

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<v Speaker 3>That's throwing the football as well. You've got to throw

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<v Speaker 3>the football from the ground up. He's not doing that

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<v Speaker 3>right now. And it's funny. You go back to twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, and let's stay on the theme of y'all's

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<v Speaker 3>listeners knowing Riley Leonard. He was a great quarterback that season.

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<v Speaker 3>I put up his stats in that year up against

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<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams. That's the same year that Caleb Williams won

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<v Speaker 3>the Heisman. Bradley Leonard was actually a better deep ball

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<v Speaker 3>passer in terms of accuracy, touchdowns, you know, you name it,

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<v Speaker 3>statistics wise, twenty plus yards downfield. Bradley Leonard was better

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<v Speaker 3>than Caleb Williams that year. So he has it in

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<v Speaker 3>him and we saw it last week with the thirty

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<v Speaker 3>eight yard touchdown pass to Bill Collins, who has been

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<v Speaker 3>the team's best wide receiver. He can make those throws.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a trust that he can make those throws.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that has to do with the injury.

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<v Speaker 3>That has to do with being in a new place,

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<v Speaker 3>new offensive coordinator, new surroundings, do everything, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes that takes time to adjust. That's the irony in

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<v Speaker 3>this transfer portal era, especially if you only have one

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<v Speaker 3>year of eligibility left, like rydleany Leondard did. You want

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<v Speaker 3>to go somewhere and you want to make that year

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<v Speaker 3>your best year in college football. It just hasn't happened

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<v Speaker 3>in the first month for Riley Leonard. Not to say

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<v Speaker 3>that it can't. Maybe Louisville is the start of that,

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<v Speaker 3>but it just hasn't happened yet. And you feel for

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<v Speaker 3>him because he's a great kid and you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>want to see him succeed.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Horker notre Ame beat Writers our guest joining us

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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety getting ready for the

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<v Speaker 2>match up here with the cards in the Irish. I

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<v Speaker 2>would say Jeff Brohm has all but said that the

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<v Speaker 2>game plan for them is going to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to trying to get Notre Dame off the field

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<v Speaker 2>on offense and slow that run game down. They are

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty right now currently nationally and rushing yards per game.

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<v Speaker 2>Easier said than done, obviously, And make and make Robby

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<v Speaker 2>Leonard beat you with his arm, and that's something they'd

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<v Speaker 2>probably feel like right now would be their best case scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>Dare him to make plays with his arm and force

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<v Speaker 2>him to do that. But what would you say on

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<v Speaker 2>the Notre Dame side. Louisville they had such a weird

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<v Speaker 2>start of the season with two Nobody opponents in the

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<v Speaker 2>first couple of games. They took care of business in

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<v Speaker 2>those and then at Georgia Tech game where they covered however,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it was it took a special team's touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>a defensive touchdown, and a game then honestly, with with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, quarter or left, it looked like it could

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<v Speaker 2>go either way. The Cards end up holding on to

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<v Speaker 2>win by twelve. What would you say, you know you've

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<v Speaker 2>been able to see from the From the Louisville side,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be you know, something you could exploit if

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<v Speaker 2>you if you're Marcus Freeman, yeah, stop to run.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Dreard Jordan went crazy against Notre Dame last year,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know it's a new running back contingent back

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<v Speaker 3>there for Notre Dame. So they're gonna have to really

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<v Speaker 3>study those guys all week, and that's what they have

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<v Speaker 3>been doing. But they're a little embarrassed, quite frankly, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way that that game went last year, because you

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<v Speaker 3>remember thirty three to twenty, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>even thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three to you know, Yeah, there was a late score

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<v Speaker 2>that made it look a little more a little closer.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that, yeah, But I mean when it was

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<v Speaker 3>tied up or you know, a one score game, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it was, both teams felt like they could win. It

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<v Speaker 3>was Louisville who kind of went on the assertive, went

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<v Speaker 3>on the offensive on the ground, which which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think really sticks with al Golden defensive coordinator at

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame, sticks with a lot of these guys who

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<v Speaker 3>have returned. I mean, you guys watched that game last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to you're going to recognize a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>same names back for Notre Dame. And you're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>all American caliber guys who really haven't some of them

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<v Speaker 3>have not played all American football this season. So what

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<v Speaker 3>better opportunity to do that than against a team that

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<v Speaker 3>beat you last season. So I think number one has

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<v Speaker 3>stopped to run for Notre Dame, and then number two

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<v Speaker 3>is winning to turnover battle. I mean, Sam Hartman turned

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<v Speaker 3>the ball over five times last year and it was

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<v Speaker 3>just detrimental in every way. I guarantee you they're telling

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<v Speaker 3>Riley Leonard, Hey, this is what happened against these guys

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<v Speaker 3>last year. You know, Sam Hartman just couldn't take care

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<v Speaker 3>the football. And that goes for everybody. Jeremiah loved Jadarion Price,

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<v Speaker 3>the two running backs who have Notre Dame in the

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<v Speaker 3>top twenty. Like you said, it's a great rushing attack,

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<v Speaker 3>but what does it mean if you're putting the ball

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground and losing it. What does it mean

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<v Speaker 3>for Rdy Leonard if you're trying to get better for

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<v Speaker 3>the air and really trying to make those strides that

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<v Speaker 3>we were just talking about. If you're going to turn

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<v Speaker 3>the ball over through the air, have an interception in

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<v Speaker 3>the offense comes off the field. So yeah, it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of that's what's cool about this game. It's similar game

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<v Speaker 3>plans both ways. Both teams think they can win the

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<v Speaker 3>same way. So you're going to kind of see strength

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<v Speaker 3>on strength, and I think that's what makes this matchup

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<v Speaker 3>so good. What more would you expect right from the

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<v Speaker 3>fifteenth and fifteenth ranked teams in the country. I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to see a pretty even balanced football game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt. The biggest matchup on the slate this

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<v Speaker 2>weekend for college football is the big one Georgia and Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>But outside of that, I mean, this will be a

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<v Speaker 2>you got as you mentioned number sixteen and number fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>in a game that really is huge for Antor. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's huge forever. It's hue for both sides. But obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>with Notre Dame having that lost in Northern Illinois, a

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<v Speaker 2>loss here would all but eliminate them from the conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>seemingly from the college football playoff and not to bring

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<v Speaker 2>up a devastating loss for the Irish, but how did

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<v Speaker 2>it happen? I mean it was. It's the biggest upset

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<v Speaker 2>of the season, and seeing how Northern Illinois hasn't really

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<v Speaker 2>been able to I mean they lost last week to Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a real surprise, So I mean I watched

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<v Speaker 2>the end of it. You know, because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people probably tuned in to see is this about to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>This would be a monster upset. But what was the

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<v Speaker 2>formula that Northern Illinois used that gave them put them

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<v Speaker 2>in a position to where they could pull off that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an upset because it certainly not as if

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<v Speaker 2>they had a talent advantage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it shouldn't have been that close in the second

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<v Speaker 3>half probably, so it was a slow start for Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>Northern Illinois obviously realized that it could stay in that

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<v Speaker 3>football game. I wouldn't say it was totally a slow

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<v Speaker 3>start for Notre Dame, though they went down and scored

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<v Speaker 3>on their first position. Rylan Leonard had a lot to

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<v Speaker 3>do with that. With his legs, I mean, quarterback power,

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback draws, counters, everything. Rydley Leonard was keeping the ball

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<v Speaker 3>on the ground. He's the one that ends up scoring

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<v Speaker 3>the game's opening touchdowns. But after that, MIU got kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a fluky eighty three yard touchdown pass to tie

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<v Speaker 3>the game. Thomas Hammock, the head coach, even said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that was when we realized if we could just stop

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<v Speaker 3>them the next time with NIU did we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be in this thing and in the second half, so

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<v Speaker 3>Ridley Leonard was dealing with a an injury to his

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<v Speaker 3>non throwing shoulder labor injury. Still dealing with it. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's something that doesn't heal. Either play through it or

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<v Speaker 3>you don't. He's chosen to play through it, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>played really well. But what he didn't do in the

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<v Speaker 3>second half that game, play calling and scrambling wise, was

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<v Speaker 3>run the football. He didn't have one single rusting attempt

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<v Speaker 3>in the second half. Guys, this is a quarterback who

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<v Speaker 3>ranked top five among all FBS quarterbacks and total yards

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<v Speaker 3>yards per carry. I think he would be close to

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<v Speaker 3>top five in the FBS if sacks weren't factored into

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<v Speaker 3>his rushing toal I mean, he's averaging seven yards per

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<v Speaker 3>carry with sacks. I think it's over eight and a

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<v Speaker 3>half without the sacks. He's one of the best runners

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<v Speaker 3>in college football. He didn't run the ball once in

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<v Speaker 3>the second half of that game. A guy who had

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred yards and one half against Purdue, a guy

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<v Speaker 3>who had one hundred and forty three yards on the

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<v Speaker 3>ground last week against Miami Ohio. That is the best

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<v Speaker 3>part of this Notre Dame offense. Right now, especially because

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<v Speaker 3>he's struggling throwing the ball is when Riley Leonard keeps

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<v Speaker 3>it and runs it. He didn't do that against Northern

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<v Speaker 3>Illinois and it cost the Irish. They weren't able to

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<v Speaker 3>put it up points on the board. They only needed

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<v Speaker 3>seventeen to win that game sixteen to fourteen final, but

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<v Speaker 3>because he was not running in the second half, things

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<v Speaker 3>went south for the Irish offense. And you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the recipe for an upset.

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame is a program that is always going to

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<v Speaker 2>have very very high standards for good reason. Uh, Marcus Freeman,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to check the pulse of the fan

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<v Speaker 2>base as of right now, how do you think they

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<v Speaker 2>feel about him as the head coach. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to indicate that he could be on the hot seat

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. There's a lot of football to

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<v Speaker 2>be played this year, but you know, Notre Dame you

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to just be good, You need to be

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<v Speaker 2>really good. You need to be you need to be elite,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're certainly not that right now. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>curious if there's if there's much noise from fans maybe

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<v Speaker 2>just questioning do you think this guy could could could

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<v Speaker 2>stick it out long term and be one of the

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<v Speaker 2>other great coaches that have coached here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a ton of fans that have him on

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<v Speaker 3>the hot seat. Really, you didn't say the words I

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<v Speaker 3>would say it's the fans. It's the fans though.

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<v Speaker 2>As fans do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the administration maybe has him on the warm seat.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're looking at things like and you two

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, Marshall Stanford, and just the overall record as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's twenty two and nine through thirty one games.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got nine losses in his first two seasons and change.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Kelly and his last five seasons on the way

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<v Speaker 3>out to LSU had nine losses. So you're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>it only took half the time for Marcus Freeman to

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<v Speaker 3>accumulate as many losses as Brian Kelly had in his

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<v Speaker 3>last five years.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's pretty telling.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very telling. And I put that on social media

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<v Speaker 3>and people came after me saying, we'll give the guy

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<v Speaker 3>some credit. He's thirty eight, you know, he's learning how

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<v Speaker 3>to do this. And I said, no, no, no, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>trying to make this about Marcus Freeman versus Brian Kelly,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to make this about where Notre Dame is

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<v Speaker 3>with Marcus Freeman versus where it just was with Brian Kelly.

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<v Speaker 3>And you made the point in prefacing the question, this

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<v Speaker 3>is not a truly elite program right now. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>a top five program. It's a top fifteen to twenty program.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's appropriately what they are ranked right now in

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<v Speaker 3>the coaches poll, the AP pole. But that's not where

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<v Speaker 3>Notre Dame wants to be. And to your point about

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<v Speaker 3>maybe losing this game and getting knocked out of the

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<v Speaker 3>college football playerff, nobody who bleeds bloom goal wanted Notre

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<v Speaker 3>Dame to be out of a twelve teen college football

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<v Speaker 3>playoff race before October even hit. I mean, we're not

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<v Speaker 3>even eating Candy Corner carbon pumpkins yet and Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna be out of the college football playoff race.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not a good look on Marcus Freeman. So this

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<v Speaker 3>is one of his biggest games of his venuine. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, the Irish have to win every game

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<v Speaker 3>from here on out, probably to get into the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, it's that proposition of already being out that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of scary and to your larger point about the fans,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what they're worried about. They don't want to go

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<v Speaker 3>into this by week at three and two. They be

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<v Speaker 3>feeling a lot better if it was four and one.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously they'd be feeling a lot better if it was

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<v Speaker 3>five to zero. But it's kind of a constant worry.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the way I would describe the Marcus Freeman eras

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<v Speaker 3>so far as you got all these great things, the recruiting,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a stand up guy. The way he coaches these

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<v Speaker 3>guys is so admirable, but there's always this constant worry

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe they're gonna slip up the NIU, maybe they're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna lose to an acc team like Louisville that Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Kelly wouldn't have lost to for so long. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's not quite pins and needles, but it's getting to

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<v Speaker 3>that point.

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<v Speaker 2>Last question for you. I saw that they have decided

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<v Speaker 2>to wear the green uniforms. How rare is this? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, uniform social media stuff has become a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal with college football fans, and I know each team

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<v Speaker 2>does a really good job of putting out the UNI

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<v Speaker 2>thread pictures and whatnot, and you know, fans love that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, But is that I mean, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>them wear green before, but I do feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty rare and given the attention that it's got, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>is this like a once a season, once every few

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<v Speaker 2>seasons kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, so it's a once a season thing in

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<v Speaker 3>the Freeman era. And Freeman's only been here for three years.

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<v Speaker 3>So he kind of got on social media a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago and said, we're bringing back irishwear green,

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<v Speaker 3>and that means the players wear green too, because Notre

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<v Speaker 3>name has always had an Irish wear green game for

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<v Speaker 3>I think going back to you know, Dan Devine, heear

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<v Speaker 3>so we're talking nineteen seventies and they wore the green

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<v Speaker 3>jerseys more back then. But it was a thing for

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<v Speaker 3>the fans to show up in green, which is not always.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you'll see Notre Dame Stadium for the Miami

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio game, for instance, you see a lot of blue

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<v Speaker 3>and gold in the stand. This week, you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 3>all green. It's a green out. But that didn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>that the players were gonna wear green. That announcement came

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<v Speaker 3>out today and so yeah, in the Freeman are this

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<v Speaker 3>would be the third time, so once per year. The

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Kelly era that was a dozen years, they only

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<v Speaker 3>wore green jersey six times, So it was very much

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<v Speaker 3>pick and choose, like every other year type of thing

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<v Speaker 3>for Brian Kelly. A lot of times it was the

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<v Speaker 3>Shamrock series game which Notre Dame goes out and plays

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<v Speaker 3>at you know, an NFL venue or her historic and

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<v Speaker 3>you they're playing Army in Yankee Stadium this year and

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<v Speaker 3>they're wearing some blue gray jerseys to kind of go

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<v Speaker 3>back to the four Horsemen to allude to that story.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's rare in the last two three decades,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say. But again you go back to like

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<v Speaker 3>r PR season and Dan Devine, they were wearing green

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. Lou Holtz was actually kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>guy who said, we're not going to be doing this.

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<v Speaker 3>We're blue and gold. Those are her colors. And I

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<v Speaker 3>believe in the eleven year Lou Holtz era, they only

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<v Speaker 3>wore green jerseys twice. So s Upton, the head coach,

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<v Speaker 3>Marcus Freeman, wants to do it once per year. He

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't sure if that was going to be a thing

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<v Speaker 3>for this game because he didn't want distractions. I just

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<v Speaker 3>talked about how big this game is for Notre Dame.

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<v Speaker 3>It's huge. If the team captains would have said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we want to wear our traditional home blue uniforms, that's

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<v Speaker 3>what they would have done, but Marcus Freeman left it

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<v Speaker 3>up to the captain. The captain said, let's wear green.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what you'll see against Louisville. If you have

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<v Speaker 3>a Peacock subscription, that's right, what you will see against

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville on Saturday, the Green Jerseys.

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<v Speaker 2>Taler, I really appreciate you making time. Very good stuff,

421
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<v Speaker 2>very insightful. I hope you enjoy the game and maybe

422
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<v Speaker 2>we'll catch up down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I appreciate you guys having me young.

425
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<v Speaker 2>Take care. That is Tyler Hooker. Really good stuff there, really,

426
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, really good insight from the Notre Dame side

427
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<v Speaker 2>of things. And I'm not at all surprised to hear

428
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<v Speaker 2>the emphasis here, you know, and we're not in South Bend.

429
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<v Speaker 2>There's not a ton of Notre Dame fans around here.

430
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<v Speaker 2>And it's not as if I've been consuming, you know,

431
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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame fan sites or anything like that, but you know,

432
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<v Speaker 2>I get since they're even a little surprised by this

433
00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:07.519
<v Speaker 2>spread being a touchdown, and it almost feels like, after

434
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<v Speaker 2>hearing that, maybe they don't think they even deserve the

435
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<v Speaker 2>benefit of the doubt because of that, because the season

436
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<v Speaker 2>has not been you know, it's not been great for

437
00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.559
<v Speaker 2>him up to this point. So big matchup on Saturday,

438
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<v Speaker 2>and I can't tell if that I mean, it's exciting

439
00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:25.119
<v Speaker 2>to me knowing that this is a huge game where

440
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<v Speaker 2>the opponent is not looking at you like, oh, you know,

441
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<v Speaker 2>like you're not gonna sleek up on them. They're they're

442
00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:34.200
<v Speaker 2>well aware, and that's exciting because it's a big time game. However,

443
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<v Speaker 2>you know, if they can lock in, it makes them

444
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<v Speaker 2>even more dangerous, and they have very little room for air.

445
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, they have no room for air when it

446
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<v Speaker 2>comes to winning and losing the rest of the way

447
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<v Speaker 2>if they want to sniff the playoff. But let's get

448
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<v Speaker 2>to a quick break. We'll come back on the other side.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Keep it rolling along. It's coffee and company. We are

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<v Speaker 2>feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.

451
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<v Speaker 2>It seems like it's already kind of died down a

452
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<v Speaker 2>little bit. As far as the UNLV situation yesterday where

453
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<v Speaker 2>two players on a three and zero team it was,

454
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<v Speaker 2>or were they four and no? Either way, they were

455
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<v Speaker 2>undefeated with not big wins. But they did beat Kansas

456
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<v Speaker 2>before people realize Kansas stunk, and they beat Houston, so

457
00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:12.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're beating G five teams, G four teams,

458
00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:15.680
<v Speaker 2>and those are supposed to be the really hard games

459
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<v Speaker 2>for them, and they're expected to be the best team

460
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<v Speaker 2>in the Mountain West. So they are a team that

461
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<v Speaker 2>is certainly in the mix for the playoff. And they

462
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<v Speaker 2>had their quarterback walk away. Now we know now that

463
00:20:24.920 --> 00:20:27.200
<v Speaker 2>he did not get any of the money that he

464
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<v Speaker 2>was told by an assistant coach that he was going

465
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<v Speaker 2>to get, and that I don't want to get all

466
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<v Speaker 2>into the entire thing we did yesterday, but I still

467
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<v Speaker 2>am surprised that there are many that you know, are

468
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<v Speaker 2>bringing up this kid. Quit this again. It's it's a job. Now,

469
00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:44.240
<v Speaker 2>it's work, It's not I mean, and this guy is

470
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<v Speaker 2>not going to go to the NFL. He knows that

471
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<v Speaker 2>this guy is really not solely responsible for their great start.

472
00:20:49.240 --> 00:20:52.319
<v Speaker 2>He's been their quarterback, so he's been a part of it,

473
00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:57.640
<v Speaker 2>but he is utilizing the new world of college football.

474
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<v Speaker 2>He's a good enough quarterback that schools would want him,

475
00:21:01.119 --> 00:21:05.079
<v Speaker 2>and he's going to make football his job for a

476
00:21:05.160 --> 00:21:08.640
<v Speaker 2>year and probably make more money in his first year

477
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<v Speaker 2>in his only year doing that, than he would in

478
00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:13.880
<v Speaker 2>his first year in whatever career he decides, if that

479
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:17.279
<v Speaker 2>makes sense. So, like, I still think fans aren't programmed

480
00:21:17.279 --> 00:21:19.480
<v Speaker 2>to look at it that way. You know, I he

481
00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:22.960
<v Speaker 2>quit on his team, He's a quitter. This is a

482
00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:25.640
<v Speaker 2>job now. I mean, I just I don't know.

483
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<v Speaker 4>I want to throw this aspect out there. Do you

484
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<v Speaker 4>think because of the nature of how he's handled do

485
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<v Speaker 4>you think that from other coaches perspectives, not un LV

486
00:21:34.079 --> 00:21:36.839
<v Speaker 4>head coaches, but guys who may want to have him

487
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<v Speaker 4>on their team in the future, do you think the

488
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<v Speaker 4>way that Matt Sluca has handled it could be problematic

489
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<v Speaker 4>for him moving forward with other coaches.

490
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<v Speaker 2>I am sure he probably had that in mind when

491
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<v Speaker 2>he made the decision and was willing to do what's

492
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<v Speaker 2>best for him. And I don't blame him and coaches.

493
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're going to continue to complain about this

494
00:21:54.680 --> 00:21:59.119
<v Speaker 2>new world, you know, and talk about it, and it's

495
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<v Speaker 2>legitimately complaining about when it comes to there being no

496
00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:04.720
<v Speaker 2>real like, if we're gonna do this, we gotta have

497
00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:07.200
<v Speaker 2>guard rails, we gotta have a system that's that's that's legit.

498
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean these coaches, they they would they

499
00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:14.839
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't coach if they weren't getting paid. And that's that's

500
00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:16.839
<v Speaker 2>unusual for them to even be in that spot because

501
00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:19.319
<v Speaker 2>those who coached college football for a long time, it's

502
00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:22.680
<v Speaker 2>never been a job before, but now it is. I mean,

503
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:26.200
<v Speaker 2>especially for guys in that situation who's just sticking around

504
00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:29.960
<v Speaker 2>to play because he is taking advantage of not only

505
00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:32.279
<v Speaker 2>a fifty year guy they can transfer and use one

506
00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:35.279
<v Speaker 2>more year, but also he can make some money. So no,

507
00:22:35.400 --> 00:22:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that'll be a red flag in the eyes

508
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<v Speaker 2>of some. But those who adapt and just accept for it,

509
00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.480
<v Speaker 2>accept it for what it is, they're the ones who

510
00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:49.160
<v Speaker 2>are gonna have the best success navigating through this. So

511
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the guy's even that special because U

512
00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:53.799
<v Speaker 2>and LV was the best school that that that was

513
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<v Speaker 2>in on him. But that doesn't changed the fact that

514
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<v Speaker 2>he is entitled to not continue to perform and work

515
00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>a job that he's not getting paid. And I'm sure

516
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:09.079
<v Speaker 2>he learned the hard way about getting in and writing,

517
00:23:09.519 --> 00:23:11.839
<v Speaker 2>getting an agent that's actually certified in the state that

518
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:13.960
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be playing and all that, but that really

519
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:17.200
<v Speaker 2>is beside the point, because you know, either way, he

520
00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.359
<v Speaker 2>still isn't getting paid what he was told by the coach,

521
00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's something he's you know, he's gonna take the

522
00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:23.200
<v Speaker 2>matter into his own hands and just say, look, all right,

523
00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:26.200
<v Speaker 2>that's bad business. I'm gonna walk away, and I'll still

524
00:23:26.200 --> 00:23:29.279
<v Speaker 2>have a year to play elsewhere. But those are those

525
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<v Speaker 2>that are asking why UNLV is in such a tough

526
00:23:31.359 --> 00:23:35.400
<v Speaker 2>spot within il and and also financially, you know, apparently

527
00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:37.799
<v Speaker 2>they are. They are one of the Mountain West schools that,

528
00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:42.640
<v Speaker 2>from a financial standpoint is is just desperate to get

529
00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.640
<v Speaker 2>the most money they can because they need it. They're

530
00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:48.440
<v Speaker 2>broke and the and I don't want to nerd out

531
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>on Mountain West packed to nonsense because I don't know

532
00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:55.200
<v Speaker 2>nobody really cares. But one thing that I did not

533
00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:58.920
<v Speaker 2>know is that when it comes to the there's a

534
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:02.039
<v Speaker 2>certain fee sociated with all this stuff. Right, You've got

535
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.839
<v Speaker 2>a poaching fee or something that a conference would pay

536
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:09.839
<v Speaker 2>for taking your tea, your got your your member, and

537
00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:15.559
<v Speaker 2>then you've got the buyout fee and whatnot. And no, no, no, no, no, no,

538
00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.160
<v Speaker 2>UNLV is banking on doing whatever is going to get

539
00:24:19.200 --> 00:24:20.839
<v Speaker 2>in the most money. But yet there's a lot of

540
00:24:21.119 --> 00:24:23.960
<v Speaker 2>UNLV fans that are acknowledging they're they're going to put

541
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:26.559
<v Speaker 2>the conference in a worse spot from their from their

542
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:28.559
<v Speaker 2>or they're gonna put there, They're gonna put the program,

543
00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:31.279
<v Speaker 2>the school and a worse spot as far as conference

544
00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 2>filiation because they're desperate for money, when a lot of

545
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>people in their same situation don't believe that all that

546
00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:41.279
<v Speaker 2>money is is coming just because it'll be in court forever,

547
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:44.279
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's such a such a mess. But

548
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.079
<v Speaker 2>one thing when it comes to NIL that I think

549
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:50.759
<v Speaker 2>hurts U n l V is that, yes, they are

550
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:54.279
<v Speaker 2>a big market and they haven't really had pro teams

551
00:24:54.319 --> 00:24:56.599
<v Speaker 2>until recently. Now they have the Raiders and they've got

552
00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:58.240
<v Speaker 2>who else.

553
00:24:58.079 --> 00:24:58.440
<v Speaker 3>Do they have?

554
00:24:59.599 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 2>They get a baseball team they are they're getting the

555
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:04.319
<v Speaker 2>A's I think, and then they also have the the

556
00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:06.559
<v Speaker 2>hockey team that, yeah, the hockey team who got off

557
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.519
<v Speaker 2>to a great start. And then of course their WNBA

558
00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:10.519
<v Speaker 2>team does really well there. So you know, they are

559
00:25:10.519 --> 00:25:12.440
<v Speaker 2>becoming a pro sports town and they'll be they'll they'll

560
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:14.319
<v Speaker 2>be a team there in Vegas. I'm sure at some point,

561
00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>But there's no city maybe in the country as far

562
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.799
<v Speaker 2>as the size that is filled with more people who

563
00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.039
<v Speaker 2>are not from there. It is transplant city. I bet

564
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:29.119
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people who live there they got a

565
00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:31.960
<v Speaker 2>story about how they ended up living there. Right, So

566
00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:37.119
<v Speaker 2>nobody cares about UNLV among those people because they don't

567
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 2>have any connection to it, right, They just don't care.

568
00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>They didn't go to school. But you know, so it's

569
00:25:42.279 --> 00:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>just a different type of city. Yeah, it's larger, I mean,

570
00:25:44.359 --> 00:25:45.599
<v Speaker 2>it's I mean, it's a hell of a place. It's

571
00:25:45.640 --> 00:25:48.279
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. There's a lot of money there,

572
00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.960
<v Speaker 2>But UNLV doesn't. I mean, again, the majority of the

573
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:56.319
<v Speaker 2>people that I that I think live there, even those

574
00:25:56.359 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 2>that are in in business and have success there, probably

575
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:00.920
<v Speaker 2>are not. You know, they're not from there and they're

576
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.359
<v Speaker 2>not affiliated there. And now you know, like the Raiders,

577
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>when they host teams, they're going to get a lot

578
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.200
<v Speaker 2>of fans from I mean sometimes depending on who they play,

579
00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:14.799
<v Speaker 2>they'll be the road team because yeah, one one, that

580
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.799
<v Speaker 2>stadium's humongous. But also like the Raiders, they moved all

581
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:20.920
<v Speaker 2>over they you know, they bounced around, and I'd still

582
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:22.640
<v Speaker 2>say the bulk of their fans are not in Vegas.

583
00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.920
<v Speaker 2>They're in Oakland in the Bay Area, So I can

584
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>see how they would struggle in that aspect to where

585
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.079
<v Speaker 2>there's just not a whole like there's not a lot

586
00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:36.400
<v Speaker 2>of like community funding for NIL and really just with

587
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:40.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, before NIL existed, they probably weren't doing great

588
00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to just getting like corporate donations from

589
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 2>certain you know, from from from you know, local like

590
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>for example, Louisville. Let's look at all the great corporations

591
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:50.160
<v Speaker 2>here that have local ties that have been generous to

592
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:53.400
<v Speaker 2>the University of Louisville. Obviously not anymore, but Papa John's,

593
00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's a company that was started right here

594
00:26:56.079 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 2>and that was the that mean without Papa John himself

595
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:01.079
<v Speaker 2>and the money that that was that was given, I mean,

596
00:27:01.079 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>you eventually would have had somebody, but they helped you

597
00:27:03.119 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 2>put your big stadium together. That really changed a lot

598
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>for you as a football program. Not to say there

599
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 2>aren't companies that have started in Vegas, but like, I

600
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>just don't think there's there's there's all. It's not a

601
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:16.160
<v Speaker 2>local community with a lot of people who have been

602
00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 2>born and who were born and raised there and this

603
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 2>and that kind of stuff. It's just different. So not

604
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>to say that they shouldn't have better resources, I don't know,

605
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>but like, I'm not surprised in the grand scheme of

606
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>things that UNLV doesn't have a big, a big bank

607
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 2>roll when it comes to big fans with big money

608
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:32.720
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas, because I think people with big money in

609
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 2>Vegas do not care how UNLV football. I mentioned they

610
00:27:35.799 --> 00:27:40.400
<v Speaker 2>beat Kansas before anybody knew that Kansas stunk, and I mean,

611
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:43.839
<v Speaker 2>it seems silly now that they ranked Kansas in the preseason,

612
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>like Kansas sucked for so long and then they like

613
00:27:48.920 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 2>weren't terrible and then they became decent to kind of good,

614
00:27:52.880 --> 00:27:55.039
<v Speaker 2>and it just it made you think that they were

615
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:58.000
<v Speaker 2>actually better than they were because the shock value of

616
00:27:58.079 --> 00:28:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Kansas actually winning games made it seem as if like,

617
00:28:01.359 --> 00:28:03.960
<v Speaker 2>instead of being you know, seven and five, you thought

618
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:06.160
<v Speaker 2>they were felt like die in three because it's Kansas

619
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 2>and they have gotten off to a terrible start this

620
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:10.680
<v Speaker 2>year that like, again, nobody cares about it's Kansas. They're

621
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 2>gonna go back to being irrelevant like they've been for

622
00:28:12.920 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the bulk of my life. I would say, but this

623
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.200
<v Speaker 2>is a wild stat They've been out scored forty eight

624
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.319
<v Speaker 2>to seventeen in the final five minutes of halves this season,

625
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:26.799
<v Speaker 2>so towards the end of each half, first half, second half.

626
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Throughout all of their games, they've been outscored forty eight

627
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.519
<v Speaker 2>to seventeen. And again, they were ranked in the preseason.

628
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 2>They've lost now three consecutive games where they had fourth

629
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<v Speaker 2>quarter leads, including an eleven point blown lead that they

630
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>had this past weekend before losing. Not even sure, I

631
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 2>don't remember who it was they lost to, but yeah,

632
00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>they're they're not having a good star, which is the

633
00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>norm for them. But man, how about being a Kansas

634
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:50.960
<v Speaker 2>football fan with the last eighteen months or so, you

635
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of felt like, oh, we're getting we're getting good.

636
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:54.640
<v Speaker 2>You know what it is?

637
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.079
<v Speaker 4>It's Indiana and Kansas keep trading back and forth. Only

638
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 4>one of those teams can be good at the same time.

639
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest with you, I don't think Indiana has

640
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.039
<v Speaker 2>ever been as bad as Kansas was for a while.

641
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, you all are in that tier of

642
00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 2>like never really consistently having like relevant football, you know. Yeah,

643
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 2>and they and they're there too, but like there were

644
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:15.359
<v Speaker 2>a few years where they were I mean, they were

645
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 2>worse than some FCS teams like they were God off,

646
00:29:18.160 --> 00:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>they're zero to.

647
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:19.519
<v Speaker 4>Twelve, one and eleven.

648
00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 2>That ian stuff. I mean in credit to Lance Leepold.

649
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I he should have got out of there

650
00:29:24.799 --> 00:29:27.039
<v Speaker 2>whenever he had the chance. I mean, because I mean

651
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 2>he could still potentially probably get out after this year.

652
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. Maybe he's not that great of

653
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:34.960
<v Speaker 2>a coach. How are you feeling about the Hoosiers game

654
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 2>this weekend.

655
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 4>I've got him covering, But that was also before which

656
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 4>the spread seven seven and a half by the way,

657
00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:43.279
<v Speaker 4>for those interested, But with the you know, the hurricane

658
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 4>stuff coming in, it's it's expected to potentially impact Bloomington,

659
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:48.200
<v Speaker 4>So I don't know how that's going to affect the

660
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:51.119
<v Speaker 4>style of play. But I'm confident that Signett he's gonna

661
00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:52.559
<v Speaker 4>have him ready for anything. We'll see.

662
00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 2>What does Maryland have.

663
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they've got a really good wide receiver named

664
00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 4>ty Helton or Felton. I don't remember how you say,

665
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.359
<v Speaker 4>is ya I've heard of I know you're talking about,

666
00:30:00.400 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 4>and he's one of the top receivers I believe in

667
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 4>the entire country.

668
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.319
<v Speaker 2>To me, like, with it being this early in the season,

669
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.000
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't they just be a team that you just you

670
00:30:07.079 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 2>throw them in the middle right now in the Big

671
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Ten and know that they're probably not They're not towards

672
00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.799
<v Speaker 2>the top, but they're not towards the bottom. Yeah.

673
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.680
<v Speaker 4>What's interesting, Usually the winner of this game between Indiana

674
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:17.720
<v Speaker 4>and Maryland they used to be division rivals. The winner

675
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 4>would usually go on to have a fairly decent season.

676
00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:22.519
<v Speaker 4>Maryland killed Indiana last year. I believe they ended up

677
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 4>being eight and four. And Indiana's had years in the past,

678
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:26.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, during the Tom Allen era where they beat

679
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 4>Maryland and they went on to have good seasons.

680
00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, look, they beat Yukon fifty to seven,

681
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 2>they beat Virginia twenty seven thirteen. Virgina sucks. They beat Villanova,

682
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>who's FCS, and then they lost to Michigan State, which

683
00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>is not a good loss for them. I mean, Michigan

684
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>State just lost to Boston College. So in Boston College

685
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:46.119
<v Speaker 2>is not you know what. They they're not terrible, but

686
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.160
<v Speaker 2>that's not something you'd look at in the Big Ten

687
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 2>and say, yeah, that's a quality loss. Yeah. So yeah,

688
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm eager. I'm gonna I'm gonna watch a lot

689
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:54.799
<v Speaker 2>of that game. I haven't seen the Hoosiers a whole

690
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>lot this year, but they're at noon. Louivill done play

691
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:58.279
<v Speaker 2>till later in the day. So I'm gonna check it

692
00:30:58.319 --> 00:31:00.480
<v Speaker 2>out and see it and I'll be pulled. I'm not

693
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.119
<v Speaker 2>gonna bet on it, but I'm gonna be going.

694
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:03.920
<v Speaker 4>For me because I'll be I mean, unless something happens,

695
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 4>I'll be out loud than like.

696
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll take your shift for the Hoosier game and we'll

697
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, we'll see what happens real quick before we

698
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.039
<v Speaker 2>get to our next break. If you are interested in

699
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:15.000
<v Speaker 2>in some of these some of these stats and facts.

700
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:17.519
<v Speaker 2>In the first four weeks of college football, when it

701
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>comes to sports betting, there are looks like six teams

702
00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:25.559
<v Speaker 2>seven teams that are zero to four against the spread

703
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:29.440
<v Speaker 2>that have not have not covered yet this year, regardless

704
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:34.359
<v Speaker 2>off it's because they're favored or you know, underdogs. Wyoming

705
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Actually here it is these are her and four against

706
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the spread teams with non cover margin for game. So

707
00:31:39.519 --> 00:31:41.680
<v Speaker 2>these are the teams that haven't covered, but also like

708
00:31:42.039 --> 00:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>they've been way off, like the sports books can't figure

709
00:31:43.920 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 2>them out. Wyoming minus nineteen point one, that's how off

710
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>they've been and not covered. NC State minus sixteen point four,

711
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Kent State minus fifteen point three, Middle Tennessee State minus

712
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>fourteen point six, LSU minus ten point four, TCU minus

713
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:03.519
<v Speaker 2>seven point six, and Kansas minus seven point five. Teams

714
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 2>that have not covered it all this year. A lot

715
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 2>of those are included, but North Carolina hadn't covered a

716
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 2>game this year, Wake Forest, Middle Tennessee State, Arizona. These

717
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>are teams that it might not And I haven't looked

718
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.400
<v Speaker 2>at the lines on these games specifically, but those are

719
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>teams that you might start fading because stubbornness can be

720
00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>a thing within within the initial line that you see

721
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.519
<v Speaker 2>that comes out now. Obviously there's a lot that impacts

722
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.119
<v Speaker 2>if it moves one way or the other throughout the week.

723
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>But Louisville, for example, you made a lot of money

724
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:38.000
<v Speaker 2>when Bobby was here in his last year because they

725
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 2>would still get a respectable line as an underdog, because

726
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 2>everybody would just know, like, hey, Louisville, they suck, but

727
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>they got better players than Virginia in Boston College. So

728
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:54.279
<v Speaker 2>like they'd be eighteen point dogs and I'd be sitting

729
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>here thinking they'll lose by double that, Like I'm watching

730
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.799
<v Speaker 2>this team playing and play like they're gonna get killed

731
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 2>and you can make money doing that. So I'm not

732
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>sure what potential team that is this year, but keep

733
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>that in mind now. As far as teams that are

734
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>perfect against the spread, Louisville and Indiana are two of

735
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 2>those teams. Other teams Army, Boston College, Bowling, Green BYU,

736
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Eastern Michigan, Illinois, Ole, Miss Pitts, San Jose State, Tennessee, Texas,

737
00:33:20.039 --> 00:33:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Central Florida, and UNLV who we just talked about. So

738
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't know if that's interesting to you,

739
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 2>but these are teams that have absolutely taken care of

740
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>business one way or the other. Right, they've either won

741
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>every game with some cushion or they've lost but did

742
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.680
<v Speaker 2>better than the odds makers expected. All right, quick break,

743
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side and wrap up

744
00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 2>the four o'clock hour. Keep this thing rolling along. It

745
00:33:42.640 --> 00:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>is Coffee and Company here on Sports Talk seven ninety,

746
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<v Speaker 2>So you're going a louder than live tonight. Who's the

747
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.920
<v Speaker 2>is it? Slip Knot?

748
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:54.680
<v Speaker 4>Slip Knot, five Finger, Death Punch and the Offspring the

749
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 4>three biggest names tonight.

750
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I've heard of all of these, All of these groups

751
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know a whole lot about them. I know that

752
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>they're a big deal in there, you know, in that

753
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:07.279
<v Speaker 2>in that genre, in that space rock uh, slipknot more metal, yeah,

754
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 2>slip not really.

755
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.719
<v Speaker 4>All three of the offspring is kind of punk rocket yeah,

756
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:12.880
<v Speaker 4>but both of those Finger Death, Punch and Slip not

757
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:14.880
<v Speaker 4>they fit into that heavy metal category.

758
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 2>So you've gone to this event many years, right, it's

759
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>to be the fourth year, I believe. For me, what

760
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:22.639
<v Speaker 2>do you expect in as far as the crowd, I mean,

761
00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>I get a similar vibe to last week. As far

762
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.039
<v Speaker 2>as just there's a lot of people here in town.

763
00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what to expect.

764
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.800
<v Speaker 4>I do think it's going to be not as croud

765
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:33.960
<v Speaker 4>as Bourbon and Beyond for the first time probably in

766
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.719
<v Speaker 4>the history of both of these festivals, and maybe even

767
00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:38.639
<v Speaker 4>less so because of the rain. I do think for

768
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:40.719
<v Speaker 4>people who come out of town, they're going to go regardless.

769
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:43.159
<v Speaker 4>But I think you may see locals, potentially, especially in

770
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.679
<v Speaker 4>the coming days, maybe decide not to go. But I mean,

771
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:47.599
<v Speaker 4>people spend a lot of money on these tickets as well,

772
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.639
<v Speaker 4>so maybe if as long as they don't cancel it,

773
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 4>maybe you won't see that much of a difference. When

774
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:52.159
<v Speaker 4>it comes to turn out.

775
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just saw that. Mayor Greenberg tweeted out the

776
00:34:57.320 --> 00:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>severity of these these storms heading our way, says attention level.

777
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.519
<v Speaker 2>We were expected to have heavy rainfall all day Friday

778
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:06.199
<v Speaker 2>and into the weekend, so it's important to stay safe,

779
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>monitor the weather except expect severe conditions this weekend. Please

780
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:14.599
<v Speaker 2>take precautions, uh, and be and be prepared. So, I mean,

781
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if if there's like a a level

782
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:21.159
<v Speaker 2>of fear or level of threat that that does require

783
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.599
<v Speaker 2>the mayor to tell people to be careful. I mean,

784
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Speaker 2>or he's just you know, being nice and trying to

785
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>keep people, you know, aware of what's going on. Because

786
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 2>if you, like, if you if you are unplugged, and

787
00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>I find it hard to believe, but if you're unplugged

788
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 2>from anything when it comes to the news. You don't

789
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 2>listen to the radio, you don't turn your TV on.

790
00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:41.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're on the internet. But you know it's

791
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>not about like anybody covering local weather around here. Like

792
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:47.079
<v Speaker 2>I guess you could be you know, in the dark

793
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 2>on this whole thing. But I don't know, I get

794
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:54.119
<v Speaker 2>the sense that like this is hitting a level of like, oh, guys,

795
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:56.800
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be crazy. Everybody be prepared, which you know,

796
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>better safe than sorry. But I just would be really

797
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>sad for everybody involved in the Louder Than Live festival

798
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 2>if there was like a day they couldn't do it

799
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:06.320
<v Speaker 2>because of how windy it was and just because of

800
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.320
<v Speaker 2>how you know, how severe the rain and the flooding was.

801
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:14.119
<v Speaker 2>But not to insult them, but like I kind of

802
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:16.639
<v Speaker 2>feel like this group would not care, like a lot

803
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>of people who those who are here traveling, that are

804
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>here for four straight days of being there all day,

805
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 2>like they ain't scared of right, they ain't scared to win. No,

806
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>they're lost to this.

807
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:30.840
<v Speaker 4>As long as old Danny Wimmer lets everybody into the festival,

808
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:31.679
<v Speaker 4>they're gonna be there.

809
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:35.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm curious, not that it matters, but like can

810
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 2>he be shut down? Like you know what I mean?

811
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Like does somebody somebody have authority to say you're not

812
00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 2>allowed to have this event because of how severe the weather.

813
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:45.519
<v Speaker 4>Is looking like I don't know if the City of

814
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 4>Louisville has I don't authority over there or maybe the

815
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.199
<v Speaker 4>Expo Center that type of thing.

816
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:53.719
<v Speaker 2>Because like I know it's certain like certain places it's

817
00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.000
<v Speaker 2>in fact Like whenever you've got a weather situation at

818
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 2>a stadium for a football game, it is a the host,

819
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the school, they're following their own conferences protocols for weather

820
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.639
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. But like for an event like this, I

821
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:07.800
<v Speaker 2>really don't, you know.

822
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Obviously lightning is the big one. I don't know how

823
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.920
<v Speaker 4>big of a threat lightning is in what's coming over

824
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.159
<v Speaker 4>the next couple of days. But the biggest things that

825
00:37:15.199 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 4>we've both been hearing is heavy rain and potentially really

826
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 4>high winds.

827
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I'm a little skeptical that it's going to

828
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>be as bad as they say, because typically that's that's

829
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:28.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's the and I hope it's not as

830
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.960
<v Speaker 2>bad as they see. And that's not and that's not

831
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:35.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's not to say they suck. They're always wrong,

832
00:37:35.239 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 2>because again they're even if you are somebody that believes

833
00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>they are at times trying to worry us a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>to get us on the edge of our seats, so

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<v Speaker 2>we are likely to tune into what they're saying and doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if you believe that a little bit, which I do,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still their job to, like, you know, give you

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<v Speaker 2>the give you the full like you know, the full

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<v Speaker 2>worst case, best case kind of thing. So again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>hopeful that it's not that bad. Not because I want

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<v Speaker 2>to dunk on them and say that they're idiots, but

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<v Speaker 2>just because you know that would be when you have

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<v Speaker 2>a big event that brings so much to the city

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<v Speaker 2>of Louisville, with tourism and just people here enjoying Louisville.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you don't want whether to get in the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's one thing we don't control. Mother

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<v Speaker 2>Nature decides what happens with that kind of stuff, nobody else,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully she's she's a fan of rock metal music,

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<v Speaker 2>and she decides.

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<v Speaker 4>Mother Nature has a name this week too, it's Helene.

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<v Speaker 2>It's right Helene. That get her out of here. John.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't want, we don't want any of Helene heading

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<v Speaker 2>our way. You're not gonna be watching football saturdaycause you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a loter than life. But are you Are

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<v Speaker 2>you betting anything?

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<v Speaker 4>I am bet and I already mentioned I'm taking Indiana

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<v Speaker 4>minus seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I had it.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish you're gonna ask me, and it's not your

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<v Speaker 4>fas Okay, I would have had it pulled up and

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<v Speaker 4>let you know, my other two legs are. But I

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<v Speaker 4>am getting in on some action this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have a lot of confidence because last week

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<v Speaker 2>I was really confident about a few picks and they

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<v Speaker 2>were way off. But I do think Miami minus seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>and a half against Virginia Tech. I like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's a lot of points, but Virginia Tech is

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<v Speaker 2>just not that good of a football team, and as

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<v Speaker 2>of now, I'm gonna that Miami is as good as advertised.

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Ward is the real difference maker in my opinion

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<v Speaker 2>for Miami, not just being okay, hey, they're pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>this year. They're usually underwhelming. I think they could be

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<v Speaker 2>like as good as not anybody, but they're they're loaded

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<v Speaker 2>and talent's always been in a good place for Miami

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<v Speaker 2>obviously in certain I mean, they had they teams back

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<v Speaker 2>in the early two thousands that had the insane amount

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<v Speaker 2>of NFL players on them. But like that's what people say,

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<v Speaker 2>why is Miami? Why have they not been able to

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<v Speaker 2>get back to being the U and winning national championships?

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<v Speaker 2>They recruit really well every year, and that's true, but

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<v Speaker 2>they've never It's been a long time since they had

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<v Speaker 2>a really good quarterback, and I think cam Ward's that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And a really really good quarterback that's in a good

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<v Speaker 2>system with talent everywhere else. That's a good recipe to

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<v Speaker 2>have success. So I like Miami minus seventeen and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got some other games that I that I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of wavering on as far as what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>We can get to that in the five o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's get a quick break out of the way

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to the five o'clock hour and welcome

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<v Speaker 2>in Ken Spencer from WHAS eleven. Get his thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>both matchups for the local teams this weekend, and uh

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<v Speaker 2>finished this thing strong. One more hour to go. It's

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<v Speaker 2>coffee and company. We are fuel about Thornton's right here

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<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven ninety
