Speaker 1: My good friend Jose Santa Maria, a good friend, a
Speaker 1: native of Spain, worked for the banks in Spain and
Speaker 1: his home originally in Spain and lives in New York.
Speaker 1: He's an investment banker. Well, Jose, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about your country, your homeland being invaded?
Speaker 2: John and devastated. The numbers we talked about yesterday forty
Speaker 2: thousand keep on growing. We're talking sixty thousand people going
Speaker 2: into the country. It's terrible. They got some dress yesterday,
Speaker 2: but today they need to eat, they need to get dressed.
Speaker 2: So we're seeing already assaults into the supermarkets, into the shops.
Speaker 2: It's terrible. It's thematic.
Speaker 1: Now they're breaking into people's homes too. I heard that,
Speaker 1: and you know they're stealing cars. What are they doing?
Speaker 2: Well, they meet housing, they need to sleep, some words,
Speaker 2: sixty thousand people and they just need to get along
Speaker 2: with their lives wherever they are in the country. So
Speaker 2: there are now, obviously with no money and no support
Speaker 2: from anyone, they're starting to commit crimes. It's a very
Speaker 2: dramatic situation. Spain has handled immigration very well. There's millions
Speaker 2: of Equatorials, Venezuela and Argentinians be to from everywhere, but
Speaker 2: in these numbers and undocumented is a real crisis.
Speaker 1: Hey, is anybody protecting if I had a home in
Speaker 1: Spain in that area, how do I protect my home?
Speaker 1: Is there? Is there a police department, is there a military?
Speaker 1: Is there anything?
Speaker 2: Well? Remember the Socialist government allows for people that get
Speaker 2: into an apartment or house to stay there, and the
Speaker 2: additional process is very long. It's a year or maybe two.
Speaker 2: So that is something that Spain needs to improve right now.
Speaker 2: If you get someone to walk into your house and
Speaker 2: you're not there, you're not going to get them out
Speaker 2: external Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is a real problem.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The New York Post Act actually just reported onto this
Speaker 3: that not only are they overrunning the towns and so on,
Speaker 3: but they're actually using the streets as open toilets and
Speaker 3: they're bathing in the fountains. The beautiful fountains of Spain
Speaker 3: are now being used as bath as baths and showers.
Speaker 2: I want to remind you of the World Health Organization
Speaker 2: when you look at the health conditions of these countries. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: Northern Africa is one or two, not just below, which
Speaker 2: basically means people come on average with more HIV more
Speaker 2: pure closes more hepatitis. That's a problem.
Speaker 1: It's like, I mean, nobody has checked these people coming
Speaker 1: in for if they have diseases. Nobody has checked them
Speaker 1: for anything, if they're out of prison, et cetera. I mean,
Speaker 1: in the United States when we had Ellis Island, we
Speaker 1: have checks and balances. You know, you have to pass
Speaker 1: the Elis Island test to make sure you come in.
Speaker 1: I mean, ose, this is a mess.
Speaker 2: It is a mess, and I want to emphasize how
Speaker 2: important it is to prioritize the security agenda. To me,
Speaker 2: there's a clear triangle of security which should have been
Speaker 2: coordination between Spain, Israel and Morocco. That's a big triangle
Speaker 2: that requires very professional security and that is not happening
Speaker 2: unfortunately with this a Spanish government.
Speaker 3: But you have a real big problem because it's actually
Speaker 3: your government that created this problem. It's interesting that they're
Speaker 3: now looking for say foreign countries or more foreign countries
Speaker 3: are involved in trying to deal with this overrunning of
Speaker 3: SUTA as opposed to your own government itself. What are
Speaker 3: they waiting for?
Speaker 2: Well, remember how these prime minister won the presidency of
Speaker 2: the Socialist Party and he won also the presidency of
Speaker 2: the country. It was not because the majority of people
Speaker 2: voted him. It was because of all the minorities with
Speaker 2: their conflicts of interest, I mean the Catalans on one side,
Speaker 2: the beasts on the other, all the separaties, people that
Speaker 2: have a vested interest in accomplishing their personal goals. They
Speaker 2: voted for him to become prime minister. He never had
Speaker 2: the majority of the Spaniers Spain, and most of these
Speaker 2: countries are actually leaning towards the conservative side. It is
Speaker 2: always in a conservative country. But this prime minister has
Speaker 2: made decisions on his own that don't represent at all
Speaker 2: the Spaniards.
Speaker 3: And maybe it doesn't represent the Spaniards, but unfortunately the
Speaker 3: Spaniards now have to live with this repercussion.
Speaker 2: Well. Not only that he is trying to naturalize millions
Speaker 2: of people on the on the promise and on the
Speaker 2: on the commitment that they would't vote for him, because
Speaker 2: he that have the votes from people in Spain, so
Speaker 2: he's trying to get all these migrants to basically vote
Speaker 2: for him as soon as possible. Europe has now finally
Speaker 2: realized and they're even discussed in closing the Shanngen space
Speaker 2: to Spain, so that at least they can limit and
Speaker 2: strict this movement which is absolutely out of control.
Speaker 1: Well, well, what a mess this is. Well, Jose, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for keeping us informed. Anything else you
Speaker 1: want to tell the American people.
Speaker 2: Spain is a good country, that the politicians are terrible.
Speaker 2: So it's important to be what we were.
Speaker 1: What percentage of Spain was a Christian country? What percentage
Speaker 1: of Spain is now a Christian country? And what else
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: Spain is mostly Christian Catholic as a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: it's probably about the seventies seventy five percent. It's been
Speaker 2: very open minded. But the problem is these young people
Speaker 2: time with ideas and time with objectives, which are creating
Speaker 2: an amount of tension similar to the one that you see,
Speaker 2: for example in South France or in the du K
Speaker 2: where they haven't been able to absorb this migration. They
Speaker 2: never naturalize people by doing the right due diligence and
Speaker 2: the investigations. They never did that. So right now Spain
Speaker 2: has a massive amount of people which are going to
Speaker 2: be very upset. Of course, they need to use toilets,
Speaker 2: they need to eat, they need to drink. That's terrible.
Speaker 2: There's no way to handle this well.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Santa Maria, thank you for coming on, keep
Speaker 1: us informed, keep on New York as all Americans informed,
Speaker 1: and we'll catch up with you again.
Speaker 2: Wilson, I was talking to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
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